Speaker 1: Oh, bed of Fred.
Speaker 2: And welcome to the show.
Speaker 3: This is the Cult of Conspiracy, and my name is Jonathan,
Speaker 3: I'm Jacob, and today we have two very awesome guests.
Speaker 3: One you already know, Electro Nick, welcome back, my good brother.
Speaker 4: What's going on?
Speaker 2: Guy, Hey dude.
Speaker 3: And a new guest here. We're very excited to have
Speaker 3: Tyler Angle. You may know him as Base Forged. Dude,
Speaker 3: what's going on?
Speaker 5: That's good fellus. Glad to be here.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm not gonna lie here, man.
Speaker 3: We have been soaking up all of your videos like
Speaker 3: a fucking sponge. I mean, the stuff that you go
Speaker 3: into is just it's so amazing, like because it's paying
Speaker 3: attention to detail that most people just throw out and
Speaker 3: you can't just do that, you know, And and I
Speaker 3: love the your level of curiosity and the work that
Speaker 3: you do.
Speaker 2: So cheers to you, my good dude.
Speaker 5: Thanks dude. That's it helps, uh. I mean, I'm an
Speaker 5: engineered so I speak like the language of science, and
Speaker 5: I think it's a little bit more helpful if you
Speaker 5: can kind of relate the concepts to you know, ground
Speaker 5: it in real life a little bit, I guess, But yeah,
Speaker 5: I feel like that's that's the reason why a lot
Speaker 5: of people get into it in the first place, is
Speaker 5: because it used to be unreachable, like you couldn't you
Speaker 5: couldn't really wrap your head around it. And there's a
Speaker 5: lot of creators now that I think are kind of
Speaker 5: bringing it down to earth, and I'm trying to be
Speaker 5: just one of those.
Speaker 6: So what kind of engineer are you if you don't
Speaker 6: mommy asking?
Speaker 5: So I did three years of mechanical engineering, and then
Speaker 5: I switched to computer engineering, and then I worked in
Speaker 5: data storage for three years, running automation on like really
Speaker 5: large servers, so I had to do I had to
Speaker 5: do a lot of the hardware and the software stuff.
Speaker 5: So that's kind of what triggered a lot of my
Speaker 5: content that I talk about. Is I like, I like
Speaker 5: relating them to you know, computer components, temples and all
Speaker 5: this stuff because it's a you know, everyone uses it
Speaker 5: all day, but the when I see them, it stands
Speaker 5: out to me. The architecture stands out to me because
Speaker 5: it's it's very similar to what I worked with.
Speaker 7: Got you okay, and then you are also a DJ
Speaker 7: if not mistaken, so sound is something that you also,
Speaker 7: I would say major in correct?
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I'm a I'm an audio engineer technically if
Speaker 5: you want to call it that, but that's I mean,
Speaker 5: that's a glorified music producer. You know. We have to
Speaker 5: engineer the sound is sound design, is audio engineering. They're
Speaker 5: kind of you know, interchangeable. But yeah, that's that's another
Speaker 5: thing that kind of like all of my interests kind
Speaker 5: of meshed together. So it was really helpful.
Speaker 7: So how did you get started doing short form content
Speaker 7: like you're doing because you are extremely good at it
Speaker 7: and extremely successful at it. So you coming from the
Speaker 7: computer engineering background, I could see at least how you
Speaker 7: could put the pieces together. But going into the I
Speaker 7: don't want to say the niche, let's just call it
Speaker 7: the flavor of your short form content.
Speaker 6: How did that really get started with you?
Speaker 5: I actually I kind of stumbled into it. So I
Speaker 5: had a before I did this, I did high rise
Speaker 5: window cleaning, and then right after COVID I lost like
Speaker 5: all my accounts because no one was in office buildings.
Speaker 7: So wait, while you were an engineer, you did high
Speaker 7: rise window cleaning or was that like why you were
Speaker 7: in school?
Speaker 5: You know, I did them simultaneously because the engineering wasn't
Speaker 5: like really paying my bills they gave me. They gave
Speaker 5: me a job offer for like fifty five k to
Speaker 5: do what I was doing, and I was like, I'm
Speaker 5: already making that cleaning windows on the side, and so
Speaker 5: I just I did them both. And the man like
Speaker 5: one one big high rise building is like six figures,
Speaker 5: so you can you can imagine how much more drive
Speaker 5: I had to do that. But then I started getting
Speaker 5: to old restorations. I would restore like historic buildings, and
Speaker 5: I restored one of the old Scottish Rite Masonic temples
Speaker 5: in which I where I'm from. I started talking to
Speaker 5: some guys there and they kind of pointed me in
Speaker 5: the right direction of like what I was interested in,
Speaker 5: and uh yeah, so that that was like a whole
Speaker 5: side thing.
Speaker 6: But are you what are you a Mason?
Speaker 8: No?
Speaker 6: No, I know.
Speaker 7: I feel like they would have kept that kind of
Speaker 7: the restoration of their temples in house with one of
Speaker 7: their Masonic brothers that has a contracting company or something.
Speaker 5: So so in which I was the only person in
Speaker 5: Kansas that did what I did, so they had they
Speaker 5: pretty much had to call me. They used people before,
Speaker 5: but I had at the time, I had just got
Speaker 5: the equipment to qualify for historic restoration jobs. Gotch I was,
Speaker 5: I was able to do it without damaging the building.
Speaker 5: That was a thing the contract, right, So so we did
Speaker 5: that and then uh and then yeah, COVID hit and
Speaker 5: then I had nothing. So I quit my job, my
Speaker 5: engineering job at the point too, So I was really
Speaker 5: living off a government money. And I was, you know,
Speaker 5: still I was into music, but I was like, it's
Speaker 5: gonna take too long for me to make any money
Speaker 5: off of music. So I was like, I can just
Speaker 5: sell like music templates because people need to learn how
Speaker 5: to produce, right, So I had these music templates and
Speaker 5: that's what basse Forge was is was me showing people
Speaker 5: how to make bass music and and so I just
Speaker 5: kept making these videos like tutorials, and then one day
Speaker 5: I made a video on how you can reverse a speaker,
Speaker 5: Like if you put put a signal and electricity into
Speaker 5: a speaker, it makes a noise. But if you if
Speaker 5: there was speaker receives it, it makes electricity. It's a you know,
Speaker 5: back and forth cup of the thing. And I made
Speaker 5: a video explaining that and it got like three hundred K,
Speaker 5: and I was, you know, before I was getting like
Speaker 5: a couple thousand views on my videos and I was like, okay,
Speaker 5: well maybe I should just start like explaining shit, and
Speaker 5: so I did that more with music and then uh,
Speaker 5: it just slowly was like okay, well do people want
Speaker 5: to listen to this? And do you want to listen
Speaker 5: to this? And like everything I was talking about was
Speaker 5: pretty much resonating with a certain you know, a bigger
Speaker 5: group of people. And I was like, all right, well,
Speaker 5: I'm just gonna talk about everything I want to talk
Speaker 5: about and that's really it. I'd never really done it before,
Speaker 5: so I kind of just fell into it.
Speaker 4: It's crazy.
Speaker 9: It's crazy that you mentioned I was literally in This
Speaker 9: is just the weird synchronicity of like the people that
Speaker 9: connect and you know, meshed like this. I was in
Speaker 9: Wichita last month, okay, working and I literally saw that temple.
Speaker 9: It's like white, right, it's real big and white.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 9: I mean it's probably the only one I was driving by,
Speaker 9: and I was like, yo, that's a big ass temple.
Speaker 9: There's the fucking there's the square and compass. I was
Speaker 9: with my wife and she was like, oh, Freemasons, and
Speaker 9: then here you are talking about it, like why they're
Speaker 9: fucking odds?
Speaker 4: Is that.
Speaker 5: Before I had like this preconceived no shit pretty much
Speaker 5: like everybody you know, like the you know, Masons or
Speaker 5: the ones control in the world and they're evil and stuff.
Speaker 5: And I was like, I got this job and uh
Speaker 5: think of and I was like, Okay, well, I'm scared
Speaker 5: to talk to these guys. And then I ended up
Speaker 5: chatting with them for like three hours because I was
Speaker 5: just I was listening to what they were talking about.
Speaker 5: You know, I was into Manley Pee Hall and all
Speaker 5: the you know, secret teachings of all ages and stuff,
Speaker 5: and so I was just kind of asking them about that.
Speaker 5: I had no interest in, like you know, joining or
Speaker 5: anything other than business, and they were so nice, Like
Speaker 5: I ended up hanging out there like three hours, and
Speaker 5: then since then, pretty much every cday I go to
Speaker 5: I try and like talk to the local lodge or whatever.
Speaker 5: They're very if you know how to speak the language,
Speaker 5: they're very open to chatting with you. They're not going
Speaker 5: to tell you the deepest, darkest secrets of you know,
Speaker 5: everything they know, but like if I have questions or
Speaker 5: you know, particular knowledge that I don't have that's very esoteric,
Speaker 5: I'll usually talk to one of those guys. And they're
Speaker 5: they're very much.
Speaker 7: But most Freemasons are solid guys. It's the ones of
Speaker 7: the very tippy tippy top, the people that you'll never
Speaker 7: actually meet, that are the ones that are doing some chicanery.
Speaker 7: Your average guy that is attending his lodge meetings, he's
Speaker 7: doing it for the networking in the charity and having
Speaker 7: a little camaraderie.
Speaker 6: It's not like that at the lower levels one hundred percent.
Speaker 5: Well, you could sit in the higher levels of Christianity
Speaker 5: or any you know, any any tippy top of anything
Speaker 5: is going to be very very secretive and you know,
Speaker 5: very likely doing some backdoor deals and stuff.
Speaker 6: Yeah. Yeah, speaking of I was in Philly.
Speaker 7: I didn't realize that the number three Lodge on Earth
Speaker 7: is in Philadelphia, and that's like the birthplace of America.
Speaker 7: I was there for the Marine Corps birthday, right, Yeah,
Speaker 7: so number one lodges in London, number two lodges in Dublin,
Speaker 7: number three lodges in Philly.
Speaker 6: And I saw the building, I was.
Speaker 7: Like, oh shit, Like I didn't realize how historic, Like, yeah,
Speaker 7: I know Philadelphia is an old town. I didn't realize
Speaker 7: that the old town Philly is very very well preserved.
Speaker 7: For the pre American and colonial history that it was.
Speaker 7: And I saw this lodge. Then we went to d
Speaker 7: C and we saw that big lodge and it's like, yeah,
Speaker 7: there's some big shit.
Speaker 6: Over it, dude.
Speaker 5: That DC one is crazy, Yes it is. Yeah. I
Speaker 5: made that a stop. I was there in twenty sixteen,
Speaker 5: I think, and I was like, I'm gonna see all
Speaker 5: the old architecture and stuff. And we went to you know,
Speaker 5: Smithsonian did all that, and DC. You can get I
Speaker 5: could spend two months there and still not seeing everything
Speaker 5: they have for sure.
Speaker 6: For sure, I lived there for four years and I
Speaker 6: still never saw you know what.
Speaker 3: Speaking of DC, I don't know if you've seen some
Speaker 3: of the blueprint layouts for the ballroom and people are
Speaker 3: saying that is it a resurrection of a of a
Speaker 3: Solomon's Temple or some kind of shit.
Speaker 2: I like, have you taken a look into that?
Speaker 5: I really don't think so. I thank you, honestly, I'm
Speaker 5: really That's the problem with that's internet now is like
Speaker 5: I used to, It's like three years ago you could
Speaker 5: maybe trust some stuff, But now I'm like, okay, I
Speaker 5: gotta do ten times the fact checking I did before.
Speaker 5: But I actually have a page in my book about
Speaker 5: Solomon's Temple and it's, yeah, it's not at all, like
Speaker 5: maybe there's some form of like sacred geometry in there,
Speaker 5: feel like the you know, they're not just gonna let
Speaker 5: anybody build the ballroom on there. But I really, really
Speaker 5: highly doubt that that Trump is in it like that right.
Speaker 6: Now, one hundred percent agree.
Speaker 7: I mean, and I understand why people would look at
Speaker 7: the blueprints and think possibly this is like some sort
Speaker 7: of a remnant or a nod to it. I could
Speaker 7: see it, But the specifications for the Temple of Solomon
Speaker 7: were extremely specific. And this is just not trying to
Speaker 7: be a dickhead about it, but this is simply just.
Speaker 5: Not that it's not Yeah, you're reading like it's trying
Speaker 5: to like put the put it where it, you know,
Speaker 5: overlay it and be like, look, it's close. But like,
Speaker 5: the thing about temples is there's no there is no close.
Speaker 5: Temples are precise and exact, like there's no you don't
Speaker 5: get to you don't get to like freestyle it. You know,
Speaker 5: there's rules that you have to follow and alignments and
Speaker 5: geometry and if it's off by a little bit, I'm like,
Speaker 5: they don't know what they're talking.
Speaker 3: About, right, yeah, I And I feel like, you know,
Speaker 3: there's a lot of conspiracy heads out there that really
Speaker 3: just point toward everything being said, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: Like everything is always satanic, every president is always the Antichrist,
Speaker 3: and it's like, man, can we just get out of
Speaker 3: this doomsday shit? Like is it always so terrible? And
Speaker 3: the end is ny kind of stuff?
Speaker 5: You know, that's I get. I've got that before, Like
Speaker 5: I'm trying to do some counter like counter narrative shit.
Speaker 5: I'm like every anyone will say anything to get attention
Speaker 5: at this point. And that's why I'm like with my
Speaker 5: videos now, I was posting like every day, I was
Speaker 5: posting like seven days a week, and it was getting
Speaker 5: a little intense. And now I'm like pulling back a
Speaker 5: little more. I try and to do three, three really
Speaker 5: good original ones a week, but they're very much they're
Speaker 5: more researched, like they're more in depth. So and that's
Speaker 5: kind of my transition. I'm going, I'm gonna be switching
Speaker 5: to YouTube here next year for like the my like
Speaker 5: dominant platform is about to be YouTube, and then the
Speaker 5: short form will get kind of like the trickle down
Speaker 5: from that, just because short forms kind of I hate.
Speaker 5: I'm good at playing off the attention, but I hate
Speaker 5: doing it. I hate trying to like do these like
Speaker 5: hook things and like try and sere you in a
Speaker 5: different direction. I want you to, like, if you want
Speaker 5: to if you want to learn about something, I want
Speaker 5: you to search my shit up and look at it,
Speaker 5: because I do really deep research on this stuff and
Speaker 5: I feel like it's not as appreciated on a short form.
Speaker 3: Now, I will say that your short form is amazing.
Speaker 3: The fact that you're able to give that much information
Speaker 3: in a minute or two is and being able to
Speaker 3: break it down so the layman can really understand it
Speaker 3: like it is. It is pretty intense, dude. And some
Speaker 3: of the I mean, all the sacred geometry stuff that
Speaker 3: you do is like you're like my source for sacred geometry, honestly,
Speaker 3: Like you're the person I go to if I'm if
Speaker 3: I'm curious about something like that, because there there are
Speaker 3: weird geometric things in nature all the time. And I
Speaker 3: feel like the the the ancient people, whether it's the
Speaker 3: Egyptians or whoever, they were a lot more in touch
Speaker 3: with nature because it's it's essentially just an imitation, you know,
Speaker 3: whenever they're building pyramids or certain symbols or certain resonant
Speaker 3: frequencies or anything like that. It's almost just like, well,
Speaker 3: let's see how Nature's doing it.
Speaker 5: You know, that's exactly what it is. Yeah, there's well
Speaker 5: zoom zoom in all the way down to like the
Speaker 5: atomic level. You'll see geometry everywhere, Like the orbitals and
Speaker 5: probabilities are all in in in geometric form. You know,
Speaker 5: if you take a freeze frame and you slice atomic
Speaker 5: orbital you'll see you know, hexagons and pentagons and everything
Speaker 5: like that. They just create these shapes, and I think
Speaker 5: they were more in tune with like tapping into connecting
Speaker 5: the Earth from that level all the way down to
Speaker 5: the atomic to their to their you know, the galactic level,
Speaker 5: because it's all the same. If you look at the
Speaker 5: layout of like Giza, you know you have you have
Speaker 5: all of the fire ratio or a golden ratio. It's
Speaker 5: it's set out like that. Is it not weird that
Speaker 5: that lines up with the with Orion too? Like you
Speaker 5: can lay out a plan on Earth in the golden
Speaker 5: ratio and it just so happens to line up with Orien.
Speaker 5: There's a reason why that is because that's a spiral
Speaker 5: all the way down. You know, they understood all of that.
Speaker 5: But yeah, my my background in sacred geometry, I did
Speaker 5: a lot of I did a lot of work with
Speaker 5: you know who, Jane went Owa. It is the YouTuber
Speaker 5: familiar Okay, so he's been doing it for a while.
Speaker 5: And then I studied with Robert Gilbert and Randall Carlson too,
Speaker 5: so like I have a really wide range of influences.
Speaker 9: Robert, he's the the y'all. Did you did an episode
Speaker 9: on in Jonathan restricution?
Speaker 3: Oh that's right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, dude, that rosicrusion ship.
Speaker 5: Is deep to understand, man, God, it is.
Speaker 2: It is hard to understand for sure.
Speaker 3: But there's this, uh, the the research that I did,
Speaker 3: I was trying to like make it as simple as
Speaker 3: humanly possible so that we can all understand, because let's
Speaker 3: just be real, dude. I I mean my own personal standpoint,
Speaker 3: I believe that there are almost like waves, and I
Speaker 3: think that you know, reality in general is more cyclical
Speaker 3: than it is linear, a lot like what we see
Speaker 3: in nature already. And I think that what's going on
Speaker 3: is is that you know, I think that there used
Speaker 3: to be so much more information and understanding and more
Speaker 3: connection with everything else that's going on in the world
Speaker 3: than it is today.
Speaker 2: I think that we're like I don't want to say
Speaker 2: we're devolving.
Speaker 3: I think that we already devolved and we're starting to
Speaker 3: evolve again.
Speaker 5: For sure.
Speaker 7: Do you think that that was across the board for
Speaker 7: even the lay people? Like what I mean, but this
Speaker 7: is basically you've always had your geniuses of every generation
Speaker 7: or every century who are just a cut above the rest, right.
Speaker 7: I have a hard time believing that every single person
Speaker 7: in ancient Egypt had some sort of a in depth
Speaker 7: knowledge of the world around them, more so than.
Speaker 6: We do today.
Speaker 7: I think it was probably like their higher priests, their
Speaker 7: higher architect beings.
Speaker 6: These types. And then we could cut to ancient.
Speaker 7: Greece with your Plato, your Aristotol, Soccrates and all we
Speaker 7: go to Rome, we have other examples of like these
Speaker 7: high minded engineer types. But it wasn't like that was
Speaker 7: humanity as a whole, right, So you had to.
Speaker 5: If you go this is what I learned in Egypt
Speaker 5: to them, they what they did was they would take
Speaker 5: you down. I mean, it was kind of open. From
Speaker 5: what I understand it was. It wasn't like the lowest
Speaker 5: of the low could not ever rise to the to
Speaker 5: higher heights like they they did have a pathway if
Speaker 5: you were. They wanted to find the geniuses. They wanted
Speaker 5: to find the people that were supposed to be in
Speaker 5: the right positions right. But to do that you had
Speaker 5: to go through the like temple trials up the Nile,
Speaker 5: and each temple had a theme and things that you
Speaker 5: would learn in that temple. But you wouldn't just go there.
Speaker 5: And it's not like a university of today where you'd
Speaker 5: take a class and then you take the test and
Speaker 5: then you pass and then you go. This was not
Speaker 5: a knowledge test. It was did you internalize it test?
Speaker 5: Like at Kamumbo, they would make you swim underneath a
Speaker 5: gator pit to conquer your fears, and it was like
Speaker 5: an underwater maze. You did you not only had to
Speaker 5: pass the gators, you had to swim in this maze
Speaker 5: and come out the other side, and that was the
Speaker 5: proof that you, like, you passed the test, and you
Speaker 5: worked your way all the way up these temples up
Speaker 5: to the Nile, and then you would end at uh
Speaker 5: Giza and Heliopolis and those were like the graduate schools.
Speaker 5: You know, I Heliopus is Alexandria today for those who
Speaker 5: don't know. But that's where the elites would go. After
Speaker 5: you passed all the tests and you wanted to be
Speaker 5: a pharaoh or you want to be a priest or
Speaker 5: a higher up. You just ended up there, so you
Speaker 5: would you would work your way up kind of the
Speaker 5: same way we go high school, college, PhDs, you know
Speaker 5: all that. But this was more a test of your
Speaker 5: like internal fortitude. And I think that, like we're our
Speaker 5: society really lacks that today. You know, like if you go,
Speaker 5: if you graduate the PhD, you can still be a
Speaker 5: fucker in business. You can still do some some damage
Speaker 5: to humanity. But there it's like, okay, you also have
Speaker 5: the ethical background from the test that they gave you.
Speaker 7: Yeah, no, then see I'd be fucked because I suck
Speaker 7: it hold of my breath, honest with you. They first gate,
Speaker 7: Now the gators don't bother me. I live in Louisiana.
Speaker 7: Then their most are fine, I suck it holding my breath,
Speaker 7: so I right off the rip.
Speaker 6: But underwater maze like just chocked me up as a death.
Speaker 6: It is what it is.
Speaker 7: But uh, but so I find that interesting and I
Speaker 7: agree with you the same way that when uh people,
Speaker 7: when dudes are going through buds right the seal school,
Speaker 7: they're not worried about your academic prowess.
Speaker 6: They're worried about if you have it within you to
Speaker 6: not quit. Right. There's a there's a test that this
Speaker 6: one guy had.
Speaker 7: He was, ah, you had to go underwater and untie
Speaker 7: these five knots. And it wasn't about your basic seamanship
Speaker 7: of being able to tie and untie a knot. They
Speaker 7: wanted to know if you were going to quit Whenever
Speaker 7: the time came, he actually drowned and they got him
Speaker 7: out of the pool. Whatever it was, like his fifth
Speaker 7: time or his third try, whatever it was. If he
Speaker 7: didn't pass this test on this time, he was going
Speaker 7: to be kicked out. And they got him out of
Speaker 7: the pool, they revive him because drowning is not the worst.
Speaker 7: It's okay, just get some air in your lung. Yi
Speaker 7: And he's like, oh dad, I passed. Like yeah, you
Speaker 7: fucking passed. He's like, oh good, I got that last night.
Speaker 7: He's like, no, you didn't get the knot. The old
Speaker 7: The thing for this test was to see if you
Speaker 7: were gonna quit when the shit got real, you just
Speaker 7: drowned yourself. Like we know that you got it in
Speaker 7: you to keep going, like you're good dude. But so
Speaker 7: I like how the Egyptians were doing it for the
Speaker 7: for lack of better words, the academic side of it
Speaker 7: as well as the physical side of it, not just
Speaker 7: your physical prowess of being able to hold your breath,
Speaker 7: but basically to see if you had what it took
Speaker 7: internally to get to the next level. And I think
Speaker 7: that's something very lost in our society. Like you said,
Speaker 7: just because you're a doctor doesn't mean you're a good person,
Speaker 7: doesn't mean you have grit. It doesn't mean that you're
Speaker 7: going to like make the world a better place. It
Speaker 7: means you could pass a fucking test.
Speaker 5: Think about it from their perspective too, Like if you're
Speaker 5: on like if you're on a heavy doses of psychedelics,
Speaker 5: you're not going to be in a great headspace if
Speaker 5: you haven't passed those tests. But if you're internally confident that,
Speaker 5: like you've handled this shit before it, you have more
Speaker 5: of a protective sheath around you for handling the bad
Speaker 5: trip or whatever you want to call it. You know,
Speaker 5: those are tests and trials of your internal fortitude. Those
Speaker 5: are That's why they use them, is because it's gonna
Speaker 5: be very apparent if you're you know, if you're tripping
Speaker 5: and you're having a bad trip, there's a reason for
Speaker 5: it there. You've got some internal shit you haven't dealt with.
Speaker 5: So there's there's multiple ways that they use to kind
Speaker 5: of flush out the lack of integrity of their civilization.
Speaker 5: And I think that's why it lasted so long, is
Speaker 5: because everybody kind of just knew, you know, like you
Speaker 5: can tell if you're inn you know, the psychedelic community
Speaker 5: or EDM community or something, you can immediately tell that
Speaker 5: someone is in it or not or pretending. You know,
Speaker 5: like there's there's just a gut feeling. And I think
Speaker 5: they had that on it on a level that we
Speaker 5: can even imagine. It was more of the the intuition
Speaker 5: was so good. It's like us, you know, our science
Speaker 5: is right now, our science is really good, our material science.
Speaker 5: Their internal intuition and that science was was beyond anything
Speaker 5: we can really comprehend right now. But we're gaining it again.
Speaker 5: It's just it needs a little bit more, you know,
Speaker 5: refinement in terms of what they were doing.
Speaker 9: Do you think that So when you look at some
Speaker 9: of the architectures, particularly the stuff in India, like they
Speaker 9: if we're just assuming, you know, they didn't have microscopes
Speaker 9: and telescopes and things like that back then to look
Speaker 9: at the macro or micro really on the detail that
Speaker 9: some of that architecture is. I really feel like the
Speaker 9: either only way that they are getting some of that
Speaker 9: representation is through like psychedelic you know, downloads, visuals, you know,
Speaker 9: or they're being told by you know, beings that live
Speaker 9: in that realm that can see from that perspective, Because
Speaker 9: how else could you make some of that stuff in
Speaker 9: that precise of a way without seeing it? Like how
Speaker 9: are they visualizing that stuff? Because you can't really see
Speaker 9: some of the Indian type stuff without you know, going
Speaker 9: deep or you know, zooming into like the cellular level things.
Speaker 5: To me, I think it was more like a because
Speaker 5: it in that world, in the altered states of consciousness.
Speaker 5: To me, it feels more real than this world. So
Speaker 5: whenever we experience that type of a thing, I can't
Speaker 5: necessarily use my hand to draw what I'm seeing at
Speaker 5: the moment. In the moment, right, I can get an
Speaker 5: idea of it and then maybe pull it back. But
Speaker 5: there I think they created a space. And that's that's
Speaker 5: another thing about the temple is it creates a space.
Speaker 5: It's more of like an insulator, and so so you
Speaker 5: become very sensitive to everything you know on when you're
Speaker 5: in these states of consciousness, and so what you want
Speaker 5: to do is you want to reduce the amount of
Speaker 5: sensory input from the physical body to kind of go
Speaker 5: get those things right. So I think what they were
Speaker 5: doing is getting such a good insulator that they could
Speaker 5: almost take the perspective of like us putting VR goggles
Speaker 5: on and going into those parts of reality that we
Speaker 5: can't really see even with a micro electron microscope. I
Speaker 5: think what they were doing was basically putting the VR
Speaker 5: gog was on and becoming the atom and becoming like
Speaker 5: becoming the awareness of those pieces of reality, and then
Speaker 5: coming back and translating those things in the form of art.
Speaker 5: But that's that's where it's kind of thrown me off.
Speaker 5: Is like, Okay, I do a lot of sacred geometry,
Speaker 5: and if you're off on your circles or your lines
Speaker 5: by even a fraction of a millimeter, the entire thing
Speaker 5: gets off precision. People underestimate the level of precision, and
Speaker 5: like our society uses with like mechanical fixed arms and
Speaker 5: lathes and CNCs and three D printers and stuff, we
Speaker 5: take that, we take that for granted. Like if you
Speaker 5: just try and make the flower of life. If you're
Speaker 5: starting off in sacred geometry and you try and make
Speaker 5: a flower of life, the first three are gonna be fucked.
Speaker 5: Like you're just you're assuming that you're on point, but
Speaker 5: you're not. And then you're like, damn, I need a
Speaker 5: better compass. And then you get a better compass and
Speaker 5: you're like still off, and you're like, how do I
Speaker 5: make this better? And so that's kind of like the
Speaker 5: process of development for precision. So how they got that
Speaker 5: information and then brought it back here and translated it
Speaker 5: into stone is still kind of like blowing my mind.
Speaker 5: But they obviously did it, you know, and there's obviously
Speaker 5: a reason why there's a correlation between the atomic fractal
Speaker 5: geometry that they're using and how they learned to do that.
Speaker 5: That's another way that we push humanity forward. Right. So
Speaker 5: also one of the most confusing things that I've looked into,
Speaker 5: but also one of the most impressive as well in
Speaker 5: India's on another level.
Speaker 7: Oh, I like how you said that it took a
Speaker 7: lot of trial and error too, Right, where'd the inspiration
Speaker 7: come from? I mean, we could hypothetical lize that till
Speaker 7: the cows come home. However, like you said, even somebody
Speaker 7: who like yourself is big into the psychedelics and big
Speaker 7: into the sacred geometry, just trying to write it out,
Speaker 7: you're gonna fuck it up a lot before you start
Speaker 7: to really get it. Then, when you take that to
Speaker 7: the realm of the ancients and the architects that built
Speaker 7: the things that still exist and stand to this day,
Speaker 7: they had thousands of years of attempting and fucking things
Speaker 7: up before they finally found the right components and the
Speaker 7: right shapes and the right structures to get it right.
Speaker 6: So I feel like it had to be a little
Speaker 6: bit of both.
Speaker 5: And that's assuming that we haven't found or that we
Speaker 5: have found everything yet, Like only five percent of Egypt
Speaker 5: is excavated, and there's trying to say that, you know,
Speaker 5: these so and so pyramids were practice pyramids and all
Speaker 5: this stuff, and like if you go there, there's still
Speaker 5: perfect The practice pyramids are still perfect, Like the chambers
Speaker 5: down there still have huge multitn granite boxes down there
Speaker 5: that are absolutely perfect. And you're gonna tell me that
Speaker 5: that is a practice pyramid that they use that as
Speaker 5: a as a that was the first one that they did. Like,
Speaker 5: there's got to be stuff that's so far in that
Speaker 5: sand that that's the practice stuff. Maybe, you know, unless
Speaker 5: it was just like dropped here from if we go
Speaker 5: into the ancient Aliens territory, whereas they just came here
Speaker 5: and did it, which I'm I'm not really a big
Speaker 5: fan of. I think we still I think we still
Speaker 5: did it, just we were heavily influenced by maybe non
Speaker 5: physical entities or something.
Speaker 9: One of the two options, though, I guess at this point,
Speaker 9: right like some of the precision, it's like it's either
Speaker 9: there's a super advanced ancient civilization and we have no idea,
Speaker 9: no remnants of how they did what they did and
Speaker 9: they did it with their mind in their humans.
Speaker 4: Or they had to mouth. It's like there's one or
Speaker 4: the other.
Speaker 9: In mainstream you know, archaeology and whatnot is just not
Speaker 9: really looking at either one of those.
Speaker 5: You can't you can't go to these places and look
Speaker 5: at them and be like oh yeah, that story checks out,
Speaker 5: Like there's no conceivable. I was only in Egypt for
Speaker 5: two weeks. I didn't see like half the stuff I
Speaker 5: wanted to see. And there's still the majority of it
Speaker 5: is still buried underground, like vast majority of it. If
Speaker 5: you go to the Giza Plateau, I'm looking around and
Speaker 5: there's like sand mounds and we're looking as like, oh yeah,
Speaker 5: there's a pyramid over there, there's a temple over here,
Speaker 5: mountains of sand. I'm like, why are you not digging
Speaker 5: right now? There's enough people here, Let's get some shovels.
Speaker 5: I want to see this. There's just too much shit,
Speaker 5: like we can't even access all of it. And that's
Speaker 5: what's like the most frustrating part is trying to like
Speaker 5: spend all this time and mental energy trying to figure
Speaker 5: this out when there's very likely answers that are right
Speaker 5: in front of us, or they already have the answers,
Speaker 5: or you know, we're just not getting this trickle down thing.
Speaker 5: And it's it's really that to me, is like it's
Speaker 5: like reading a book and then the last five pages
Speaker 5: are ripped out and you're like, motherfucker, really good, I
Speaker 5: didn't finish this in my hood.
Speaker 3: And these like non human intelligences. I actually really prefer
Speaker 3: that term nowadays. Like I don't know if I like
Speaker 3: the whole idea of alien and stuff like that. I mean,
Speaker 3: it's cool and everything, but I think that what we're
Speaker 3: dealing with, as far as you know, whenever you go
Speaker 3: into a like a psychedelic state or some kind of
Speaker 3: trance state or some kind of meditative state, you're seeing
Speaker 3: things just like you said, that are more real than real,
Speaker 3: Like and how do you explain something like that to
Speaker 3: to somebody who's never experienced that more real than reality?
Speaker 3: You mean, there's another reality that's more real than here,
Speaker 3: And it's like, yeah, dude. And some people talk about,
Speaker 3: you know, the characters that they meet in there in
Speaker 3: some of the wild perfect like perfect geometry that you
Speaker 3: see in there. It is beyond perfect. And I think
Speaker 3: that all of that is really Maybe it's inside of us,
Speaker 3: Maybe it's a field that we're tapping into. Maybe it's
Speaker 3: a little bit of both, but I think that that's
Speaker 3: where a lot of it really comes from. Like, so whenever,
Speaker 3: and this is just a theory of mine. But as
Speaker 3: far as like you know, the especially like the ancient
Speaker 3: like Egyptian gods and whatnot. I think they're in there.
Speaker 3: I don't think they're out there, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: So my theory is is more of like a But
Speaker 5: that's why I'm saying this, that the temples seem more
Speaker 5: like filters than they do anything else. To me, I
Speaker 5: relate them to like circuitry components, to electric circuits, because
Speaker 5: it's not I don't I'm not a big fan of
Speaker 5: the like power generation theory. Maybe maybe for like Giza,
Speaker 5: I'm not sure like that. A lot of the stuff
Speaker 5: I was seeing, especially as an engineer, was just like,
Speaker 5: I mean, it's a stretch. But as an audio engineer,
Speaker 5: that's what really got me, and that's why I was like, Okay,
Speaker 5: well this, if you go into all these chambers, you know,
Speaker 5: there's a specific resonance, there's a specific material that they're
Speaker 5: made out of. This just feels like a filter to me.
Speaker 5: So I think what we're doing, our bodies are filters,
Speaker 5: right Like if you you know, when we're talking about
Speaker 5: psychedelics and stuff, we get an expanded sense of reality
Speaker 5: because the senses kind of get diminished. Your your prefunctional
Speaker 5: cortex kind of shuts down and you're the rest of
Speaker 5: your brain can use all of that power, right, So
Speaker 5: I think when we step into that world, we step
Speaker 5: into a larger stream of consciousness. And if you're not
Speaker 5: directing it, I think you get more of this like
Speaker 5: spotlight view of the whole thing. That's why you see
Speaker 5: all this crazy geometry and you can't almost even piece
Speaker 5: it together. But what I think they did was use
Speaker 5: them to as filters to direct specific like a map
Speaker 5: almost to specific points of knowledge or specific because temples
Speaker 5: are the house of the deity. If you look at
Speaker 5: any any culture, it is the house of that specific deity,
Speaker 5: like Tandera is hathorn Edfu's horace. There's specific information that
Speaker 5: those deities have, And trying to put that into like English,
Speaker 5: it doesn't really make sense. But if you experience it,
Speaker 5: you're like, yeah, I met this this entity while while
Speaker 5: tripping and he told me a bunch of stuff and
Speaker 5: you come back and you feel it and you realize
Speaker 5: that it's right, and you're like, Okay, well, if he
Speaker 5: was right about that, then maybe I should talk to
Speaker 5: him about some other stuff, you know. And so you
Speaker 5: just build these things more and more to get a
Speaker 5: more clear signal. They become these monstrosities, like these huge,
Speaker 5: like monumental constructions, because that was what was necessary to
Speaker 5: get the most HD signal to Horace. You know, you
Speaker 5: have you have this thing.
Speaker 8: This.
Speaker 5: Ship I would call it, but it's a ship for consciousness.
Speaker 5: It's not a ship for your body. Your body's staying there.
Speaker 5: But you were going and you were interacting with this
Speaker 5: with this person, and then you come back and you
Speaker 5: transmit that information and you put it on the walls
Speaker 5: and you tell people about it.
Speaker 3: And then so wait, are you are you saying and
Speaker 3: I never heard this theory, but it fucking checks out?
Speaker 3: Are you saying that each temple was specifically designed to
Speaker 3: reach a specific deity?
Speaker 5: Absolutely?
Speaker 3: Yes, Oh my god, that is that's brilliant.
Speaker 5: Let me make this make this makes sense too.
Speaker 7: So if you're going to a Buddhist temple, you're trying
Speaker 7: to contact the Buddha. If you go to a Catholic church,
Speaker 7: you're trying to talk to Mary. This checks out.
Speaker 3: But like the way that it's like constructed with resonance
Speaker 3: and symbolism and all, like you're saying that it's it's
Speaker 3: essentially an antenna to specifically reach that one God.
Speaker 5: It's an antenna, but it's also a protective sheath for you.
Speaker 5: If you try and do this outside of the temple,
Speaker 5: your consciousness diffuses like a like a light. It's like
Speaker 5: kind of doing It's like tripping on ascid at a
Speaker 5: music festival. You're just like ah, like everything you know,
Speaker 5: there's just so much to focus on. But now take
Speaker 5: that and say and go back home. When you have nothing.
Speaker 5: You don't have lasers and huge amounts of base and
Speaker 5: all these people around you, you can like actually see some
Speaker 5: shit on psychedelics. Right there is the most controlled experience
Speaker 5: you could possibly have. The use of materials, the use
Speaker 5: of geometry, and the use of resonance are all keys
Speaker 5: to align you to a specific that they're trying to
Speaker 5: point you in the right direction. Right So now, now
Speaker 5: let's assume that the that stars or whatever they're they're
Speaker 5: working with, it's stars. But those are windows. You can't
Speaker 5: look at them like like fireballs. They're windows. When you're
Speaker 5: in an Egyptian temple and a Hindu temple, they share
Speaker 5: similar architecture where the light will come in through the
Speaker 5: ceiling they have they have portholes through the ceiling that
Speaker 5: direct the light and at different times a year. They
Speaker 5: go in different directions, they're all angled specifically, so it's
Speaker 5: essentially like a calculator. So if if the light's coming
Speaker 5: in at this angle and the the Holy of Holies
Speaker 5: sits straight you're looking straight out the temple. When you
Speaker 5: when you go into any of these things, you're going
Speaker 5: you're looking straight through. They align that with the Sun
Speaker 5: because that's the only fixed points that we have, the
Speaker 5: Sun in the moon. So if you need a solar
Speaker 5: and a lunar observatory to calculate where your ship's pointing,
Speaker 5: once you align those, then straight up is exactly where
Speaker 5: you're you're going to go or what you're going to
Speaker 5: see in that star. So when you're straight up and
Speaker 5: it's on the solstice or equinox or whatever you're aligned to,
Speaker 5: then that's when the ceremony would happen. And then you
Speaker 5: align yourself to that to that frequency, and then you
Speaker 5: essentially are are in this ship like it's a stone ship,
Speaker 5: like it's not gonna fly through space. But the insulation
Speaker 5: of the stone stone is the hardest. It's it's crystallized matter,
Speaker 5: the hardest form of crystallized matter, and the hardest forms
Speaker 5: are always used as the thrones, the lingams, whatever you
Speaker 5: want to use, to the sarcophagus, all of those. That
Speaker 5: is the filter that's going to filter out the most
Speaker 5: every like all of our most sensitive equipment is all
Speaker 5: the way underground. It's because no cosmic rays can get
Speaker 5: through there. If we're trying to detect neutrino's shits a
Speaker 5: mile down the particle collider super deep in the ground.
Speaker 5: All of this stuff is what we do today as
Speaker 5: a filter to really study stuff. That's exactly the same
Speaker 5: materials that they're using to do that, except you are
Speaker 5: the detector. It's not the not the the electronics. You're
Speaker 5: going in there and you are observing the stuff and
Speaker 5: you're interacting with that deity or whoever whoever the temple
Speaker 5: is dedicated to. And that's kind of like your your
Speaker 5: general temple science thesis, and it's kind of I'm using
Speaker 5: the ancient description of it and kind of modifying it
Speaker 5: a little bit with our scientific knowledge to communicate that.
Speaker 3: So essentially the pyramids, let's just use you know, the
Speaker 3: pyramids as an example here, but like a pyramid would
Speaker 3: essentially be some kind of vehicle that would almost like
Speaker 3: create some kind of cosmic bridge that would somehow draw
Speaker 3: in energy and information from a specific star or a
Speaker 3: portal or something like that.
Speaker 5: So when you're when you're aligning it like there's there's
Speaker 5: two things and I'll I'll explain this in like ancient
Speaker 5: monuments to so Stonehenge, for example, circle circles. Circles contain
Speaker 5: vortex's right var disease. Circles contain them. Triangles create them.
Speaker 5: So when we're looking at what at the function of
Speaker 5: each one of them, you have to take all of
Speaker 5: that into account because there's there's Hindu monuments that have both,
Speaker 5: there's Mesoamerican monuments that exhibit both. So you have an
Speaker 5: input from from a circle and then you have an
Speaker 5: output from a triangle. Now I'm not saying that they
Speaker 5: have one function. I think they were so good at
Speaker 5: designing this they had that they were able to install
Speaker 5: multiple functions in the same thing. It's like like trying
Speaker 5: to say this is just a phone, that this is
Speaker 5: a this is an internet device and it can call
Speaker 5: people on the side, like it used to be the
Speaker 5: main thing that you're using it for. Now it's like, Okay,
Speaker 5: I'll call somebody if I have to. I don't want
Speaker 5: to call somebody really, But if I have to, I'll
Speaker 5: call somebody. So yeah, I think they were multifunctional devices
Speaker 5: similar to what we're doing here, but they were just
Speaker 5: more they were interacting with the the human conscious field instead.
Speaker 5: Now the the pyramid seems to be a lot different
Speaker 5: of a device because what the what the ancient records
Speaker 5: and and and the history says is they were using
Speaker 5: it to as a communication device. But that's how they
Speaker 5: would literally transfer consciousness into a new body. So basically
Speaker 5: disentangle your your conscious body. Momentarily they mummify it so
Speaker 5: there's still an anchor for the for the for the body.
Speaker 5: Then a new body comes in and then you basically
Speaker 5: install that into the new body. So that's why the
Speaker 5: the dynasties and royal bloodlines were a thing, is because
Speaker 5: there's a specific resonance for that level of consciousness and
Speaker 5: you can only have that if you have a genetic
Speaker 5: lineage of that. So what they would do is essentially
Speaker 5: trans transfer all the memories of the previous pharaoh to
Speaker 5: the new pharaoh. And it was a it was a
Speaker 5: family thing, so you could, you know, I know my dad,
Speaker 5: I know my grandpa, I know my you know. But
Speaker 5: this way, you basically are them, but the improved version
Speaker 5: of them, because you have all their knowledge and you're
Speaker 5: going through time and getting more knowledge. So that's how
Speaker 5: they essentially evolved everything. And what I think these these
Speaker 5: bigger entities are these like the deities that they were
Speaker 5: talking about, is a distributed form of that consciousness. So
Speaker 5: when they say that someone was Horus, that that seems
Speaker 5: to be actually true, like a like a non human intelligence.
Speaker 5: That's how they have children, like they distribute the consciousness
Speaker 5: out into smaller beings. But that little, that little form
Speaker 5: of Horus that not the full consciousness of Horace can
Speaker 5: actually be contained in a human. If it was a
Speaker 5: bigger if it was actually Horruce, the human would probably explode.
Speaker 5: You can't handle that level of energy and information, right,
Speaker 5: So successive generations get better and better and better. And
Speaker 5: I think that's what the pyramid's primary function was. I
Speaker 5: think the excess energy was probably you know, dissipated, distributed
Speaker 5: throughout the environment. It seems like pyramids were doing that.
Speaker 5: But as far as like the temples go, I think
Speaker 5: they were a There's a component called a D MUX.
Speaker 5: It's a D multiplexer in electronic circuits and it basically
Speaker 5: direct signal, so it's it takes a big like if
Speaker 5: you can imagine the entire radio spectrum, a d MUCKs
Speaker 5: splits it up into bands so that you can tune
Speaker 5: into them. The temples appear to have been those type
Speaker 5: of a thing, like whether it's a Roman temple or
Speaker 5: an Egyptian temple, they always have those cutouts and cutaways,
Speaker 5: and that's where the resonance is actually focused, is in
Speaker 5: the sides of those little chambers, like where the statues are,
Speaker 5: the marble statues. So I think that those were like
Speaker 5: actually accessing different parts of the spectrum of like if
Speaker 5: you have a Greek temple all the Greek gods, you're
Speaker 5: like tuning into Athene, or you're tuning into Mercury, or
Speaker 5: you're tuning into Zeus or whoever your temple is.
Speaker 7: But it also depended on the pyramid, right, some of them,
Speaker 7: we know for sure we're being used as a glorified
Speaker 7: burial plot.
Speaker 6: Yeah, like that's.
Speaker 7: Absolutely they use it as a glorified mausoleum. But to
Speaker 7: your point, the Great Pyramids, there's still so many questions
Speaker 7: around that, and I did want you to go a
Speaker 7: little deeper on this. I'm not saying that I believe
Speaker 7: that they were used as power stations.
Speaker 6: I think that's a very interesting period.
Speaker 7: Absolutely, and there is at least a little bit of
Speaker 7: some kernels of truth of some very odd things about
Speaker 7: them to lead people to those conclusions.
Speaker 6: And okay, fine.
Speaker 7: We know that they were covered in quarts, which is
Speaker 7: use you do electronics, so you know piezo electric crystals.
Speaker 7: Whenever they are agitated, they do give off a charge.
Speaker 7: We know that it was capstone with gold, which is
Speaker 7: excellent for canceling out outside electrical noise, which to your
Speaker 7: point about kind of a shield for it.
Speaker 6: Okay, but you had mentioned something about sound.
Speaker 7: Now I'm not I don't want to push back against
Speaker 7: you on this, but you, being an engineer type, I
Speaker 7: would love to hear your two cents on this. We
Speaker 7: know for a fact the pyramids suck at resonating sound, right.
Speaker 7: An example of that would be the Massive Bass pro
Speaker 7: Shop in Memphis, Tennessee, the big glasses.
Speaker 6: That they have right.
Speaker 7: That place was built originally to be a concert hall.
Speaker 7: The dude who built it wanted it to be a
Speaker 7: venue for big concerts and shit. But they only hold
Speaker 7: like a few concerts there because they realized the acoustics
Speaker 7: inside of a pyramid suck dick and it's really horrible
Speaker 7: for the listeners.
Speaker 6: So you said that you believe that these pyramids.
Speaker 7: Is specifically at Giza, were used in more of an
Speaker 7: audio way.
Speaker 6: Can you go a little deeper on that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So a hollow pyramid is essentially a hym Holtz
Speaker 5: resonator in geometric form. Him Holtz resonators are are circular,
Speaker 5: and they are it's a cavity and the proper frequency
Speaker 5: that it's tuned to and it goes through it amplifies it. Right,
Speaker 5: So a hollow pyramid like the vast pro shops or
Speaker 5: the Luxe or casino, those are going to be awful
Speaker 5: at acoustics because they focus it right dead in the
Speaker 5: center of the pyramid. That the the it's not on
Speaker 5: the floor level, it's literally hovering right in the center
Speaker 5: of the pyramid. So in a cavity resonator, that's true.
Speaker 5: But the Great Pyramid is not a cavity resonator. The
Speaker 5: Great Pyramid has cavities in it, but the entire pyramid
Speaker 5: is the is limestone. And so what we know about
Speaker 5: acoustics is sound travels fastest through solids, right, So what
Speaker 5: it's doing essentially is in the chambers that are and
Speaker 5: you'll notice the Grand Gallery and everything, and even the
Speaker 5: King's Chamber are are acoustically tuned. They will resonate at
Speaker 5: a specific frequency. But the frequency in every temple is
Speaker 5: always within the human range of producing sounds. It's never
Speaker 5: going to be outside. It's never going to be extremely
Speaker 5: low frequency or ultrasonics or even it's even so precise
Speaker 5: that it's almost outside of the realm of female vocals
Speaker 5: to resonate in the chambers, so it was almost almost
Speaker 5: like they were specifically tuned for a specific type of voice.
Speaker 5: And the reason why I think that they are they
Speaker 5: are acoustically driven is because that's kind of how you
Speaker 5: drive the ship. You can make those noises with your throat.
Speaker 5: And the reason why the ohm sound is the ome
Speaker 5: sound is because you start in your stomach and the
Speaker 5: M when you make the M sound out your nose
Speaker 5: is the only tone that will vibrate the thalamus, the
Speaker 5: internal part of your brain connected to the pineal gland.
Speaker 5: So essentially what you're doing is like you have a
Speaker 5: tuning fork that you're using to kind of manipulate sound.
Speaker 5: In here as the radio tuner for each chamber. And
Speaker 5: so when you're doing that, you're one. You're isolated from
Speaker 5: everything else. Right, you have the limestone walls, you have
Speaker 5: all of that. It's acting as a filter. The triangles,
Speaker 5: the band pass and the internal chambers are offset on
Speaker 5: each one, so they're also getting a different band. If
Speaker 5: you imagine it coming down straight straight through the pyramid,
Speaker 5: we're filtering out all of these sounds. So you have
Speaker 5: all of these things aligned, whether it's the human, the chamber,
Speaker 5: and or your mind. If you hit it just right,
Speaker 5: then not only do you get that vibration in your head,
Speaker 5: but the vibration is mechanical, so you're stimulating the like
Speaker 5: you said, the piezoelectric forces in the crystal, So you're
Speaker 5: making another field with the sound that you're then activating
Speaker 5: the device with. So if you can assume that they
Speaker 5: probably had something, you know, if we're talking about the
Speaker 5: Great Pyramid, they probably had something inside like a Arc
Speaker 5: of the Covenant type of a situation where that's also
Speaker 5: generating I'm sort of capacitive power. Then you're literally I
Speaker 5: always look at this like a you know, when you
Speaker 5: look at the diagram of the pyramid it's upright, I
Speaker 5: always rotate it because to me, it looks like a
Speaker 5: that's a shift. That's when you when it's on its side,
Speaker 5: you can see it looks like a shift. Those are
Speaker 5: like rooms in the in it like modern spaceship that
Speaker 5: we would do in sci fi movies. So so that's
Speaker 5: where I think it's like, that's how we we separated
Speaker 5: the conscious body the spirit body the murca bah in Egyptian. Uh,
Speaker 5: that's how that got loosened from the physical body. You
Speaker 5: vibrated it enough where it kind of like just slipped
Speaker 5: out and then that was the That was when you
Speaker 5: could navigate your stuff. That was when the the the
Speaker 5: building did its thing. Is when you hit that just right,
Speaker 5: and that was your personal resonance. You know, it's not
Speaker 5: gonna work for you like it's gonna work for me,
Speaker 5: because we're composed of different things. So that kind of
Speaker 5: like shift and wiggled it out of its physical sheath
Speaker 5: and a allowed it to move around and do and
Speaker 5: interact with the non non human intelligences.
Speaker 3: Which makes sense too if you really think about like
Speaker 3: all of the records of the ancient kings and Thoth
Speaker 3: and Hermes living for thousands of years and going from
Speaker 3: body to body, and it's just a reincarnated version of it.
Speaker 3: And it like, if you're saying that you can essentially
Speaker 3: like trap a consciousness and have it siphoned down into
Speaker 3: a new body using these essentially frequency resonators to guide
Speaker 3: it into another meat suit, it would make sense. I
Speaker 3: don't know, I mean, do you think that that's what
Speaker 3: was going on.
Speaker 5: The biggest clue to this for me is is, ironically
Speaker 5: is Jesus Christianity the story because if you think about it,
Speaker 5: the story of when he was when he was born
Speaker 5: is a celestial event. He was he was born and
Speaker 5: three magi magicians came to visit him. These were these
Speaker 5: were priests from I'm assuming they were from yeah, like
Speaker 5: but they like, if we're looking at it from an
Speaker 5: esoteric lens, it was probably like what members of secret
Speaker 5: societies today. We're like, you get you got a rosecrution
Speaker 5: and a Freemason, and you got a you know, Golden
Speaker 5: Dawn guy, and they're all come to check out something
Speaker 5: because they all know the information. They're just in different
Speaker 5: sects of that of that ideology.
Speaker 7: So the reason I say persia is because in the
Speaker 7: Zoroastrian religion. Their priestly class is called their magi. That's yeah,
Speaker 7: that's all.
Speaker 5: That was, yeah, and that well then you have like
Speaker 5: the uh, you know, Gypsies or Egyptian. So like I
Speaker 5: that's why I've losed I used that.
Speaker 6: You believe they're Egyptians.
Speaker 7: They they claim that they're from like the Pakistan and
Speaker 7: Kashmir region of India.
Speaker 5: I mean, I I feel like there's probably a little
Speaker 5: bit of an overlap, I would say, just because like
Speaker 5: that whole ecosystem seems to have been in contact with
Speaker 5: each other. Like if you look at Ballbeck and Lebanon,
Speaker 5: it has elements of Greek, Egyptian and Indian are architecture
Speaker 5: like when you really look at it. So I feel
Speaker 5: like there was a heavy exchange. And I want to
Speaker 5: say that they were more cool with each other than
Speaker 5: they were like competing with each other, despite the historical records.
Speaker 5: But back to the Jesus thing, when they when they
Speaker 5: when they arrived, they they presented him with gold, frankensense
Speaker 5: and murr. The two main ingredients in mummifying a body
Speaker 5: are franknsense and mrr. So what what that is? And
Speaker 5: you got to think about what both of those are
Speaker 5: are they're heavy incense, they're they're very old factory related,
Speaker 5: and that is the strongest scent. Scent is tied to memory.
Speaker 5: It's it's the strongest one because there's no filter. It
Speaker 5: goes straight to your brain. So what they did was
Speaker 5: they presented him gifts of his previous life. So what
Speaker 5: I think happened was the consciousness of a very very
Speaker 5: very powerful pharaoh or Egyptian was dormant for a while
Speaker 5: until a specific event happened where it needed to come
Speaker 5: out and to reactivate that. That's why you see burials
Speaker 5: with all the gold and all the artifacts and all
Speaker 5: of the incense and everything that they presented was was
Speaker 5: to anchor like as quantum this is a quantum process,
Speaker 5: like I'm telling I'm thinking, like the microtubules in that
Speaker 5: pharaoh's body were preserved as like a solid state hard drive.
Speaker 5: And when those like right before death and all of these,
Speaker 5: you know, the incense and everything oils that they used
Speaker 5: anchored that consciousness to its physical form temporarily and then
Speaker 5: during the right event it got reawakened. It got it
Speaker 5: downloaded its previous body, its previous form of consciousness into
Speaker 5: the body of Jesus. I don't I'm not saying this
Speaker 5: exclusively him either. I feel like a lot of profits
Speaker 5: throughout history have been activated or reactivated in that same way.
Speaker 5: But what I think happened was they knew the direct
Speaker 5: ritual to pull that consciousness from its dormant state, whether
Speaker 5: that's you know, living in the ground or the sky
Speaker 5: or wherever the hell it wanted to be, and it
Speaker 5: was like, Hey, that's the alarm belts, It's time to
Speaker 5: come back. You know. Yeah, I hope you had fun
Speaker 5: for the last thousand years, but we need you come back.
Speaker 5: So you got the alarm bell and then it kind
Speaker 5: of like manifested it.
Speaker 3: So who was the consciousness prior to it incarnating as
Speaker 3: Jesus In your opinion.
Speaker 6: Then that's a good question.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 7: I mean, as a resident Christian, I got to push back.
Speaker 7: I'm not going to start a whole debate on it.
Speaker 7: But if that was true, I feel like Jesus would
Speaker 7: have been talking more about different deities instead of specifically
Speaker 7: one god of Abraham who completely conflicted against all the
Speaker 7: gods of Egypt.
Speaker 6: But I could see the points that you're trying to make.
Speaker 5: For sure, I'll push back on that as well and respectfully,
Speaker 5: but I think he had a mission though I think
Speaker 5: he was very well aware of the other deities. Like
Speaker 5: even in the Bible it says yahweh assumes that there
Speaker 5: are other gods, so I think and eloheim is like
Speaker 5: a plural word for God's So I think he was
Speaker 5: aware of it. But I think his goal was to
Speaker 5: unite and it was very effective at doing this. We're
Speaker 5: still living in that today. To unite all of the
Speaker 5: spiritual traditions into one thing, and that required getting rid
Speaker 5: of all the minor deities that everyone was focused on,
Speaker 5: and like you know, they could not get them into
Speaker 5: into a group, to a cohesive group, because you know,
Speaker 5: my deity is the best one and mine over here
Speaker 5: is the best one. So what he had to do
Speaker 5: and what all monotheistic traditions had to do, and with
Speaker 5: Islam culminating at the end of that, with removing the
Speaker 5: imagery entirely, like you think about it started off as Judaism,
Speaker 5: then Christianity than Islam. If we're talking monotheism, Islam does
Speaker 5: not you can't draw Mohammed, you can't make religious imagery.
Speaker 5: They're all sacred geometry go look at their shit. You know,
Speaker 5: all of their temples are sacred geometry. So that was
Speaker 5: the final form of removing the individual deities from the
Speaker 5: collective mindset of humanity. I think he was aware though,
Speaker 5: that maybe there was there was other distributed forms of
Speaker 5: the One, of the all, the God, whatever you want
Speaker 5: to call it, because everything is connected to the one,
Speaker 5: and I think he just needed to take that peace
Speaker 5: that humanity was working with for thousands of years and
Speaker 5: shelfit for a while so that we could develop material
Speaker 5: science and we could we could come together as a
Speaker 5: collective species, a global species, which actually happened, so.
Speaker 7: I could see we were going with this. But it's
Speaker 7: not like the Abrahamer religions are the only examples of
Speaker 7: monotheism on Earth. I mean, hell, the Zoroastrians, as a
Speaker 7: matter of fact, are claiming that they are the oldest
Speaker 7: montheist or religion on earth, or her Amazda. Although he
Speaker 7: can present himself in six forms, he is a singular deity.
Speaker 7: And even in the Egyptian culture, you had that one
Speaker 7: time frame when they tried to all just have raw
Speaker 7: worship and there was no other these then when his
Speaker 7: son took over, he's like yeah, fuck that, we're going
Speaker 7: back to worshiping all of them. So, I mean there's
Speaker 7: examples of trying to make things cohesive and it never worked.
Speaker 7: So to say that Jesus was trying to shelf the
Speaker 7: multi deity platform for a bit that also kind of
Speaker 7: goes in line with not just oh my deity is better,
Speaker 7: oh this deities are I prefer horror over set or.
Speaker 6: These types of things.
Speaker 7: They also have very conflicting ideologies and morality issues.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree. I agree with all of that too.
Speaker 5: This is why it's so hard to study. It is
Speaker 5: because like you go with one one one form of
Speaker 5: Christianity will tell you one story and the other will
Speaker 5: tell you that. Like if you look at the Coptic
Speaker 5: or Gnostic tradition, it's so close to or a Greek Orthodox.
Speaker 5: They're so close to the Egyptian way of thinking that
Speaker 5: it's like, what how did you get? Like there's temples
Speaker 5: in like Dendera has a Christian temple there and you
Speaker 5: can see like Gothic architecture in its primitive form there,
Speaker 5: and I'm like, okay, they are kind of like bleeding
Speaker 5: into each other, and I think we're just going through
Speaker 5: this timeline where you you you need certain things at
Speaker 5: certain points. In terms of like human evolution, if I'm
Speaker 5: I kind of look at this like a like all
Speaker 5: these deities or whatever are trying to build the perfect
Speaker 5: vehicle to to to hold their consciousness to in physical form.
Speaker 5: There they're constantly improving this like our cell phones get
Speaker 5: faster and more capable and more they can do more things. Right, So,
Speaker 5: in terms of what the the spiritual traditions we're doing
Speaker 5: is is manipulating the software of the biological hardware. So
Speaker 5: before we were kind of like breeding humans in terms
Speaker 5: of lineages to make a a vehicle that could contain
Speaker 5: a form of consciousness, a higher form of consciousness and.
Speaker 6: Then to aden no doubt, Yes.
Speaker 5: As time went on, they became more capable of receiving
Speaker 5: higher levels of thinking. Like you try, and you try
Speaker 5: and explain this five hundred years ago, they would burn
Speaker 5: you at the stake, right So there's.
Speaker 7: But even still look at the Egyptians, if we are
Speaker 7: to believe this and that the pharaohs themselves, the the
Speaker 7: royal class, the royal bloodlines were the highest of enlightened
Speaker 7: beings of their day and age, or at least that
Speaker 7: was the intent yeah, they were inbred so bad that
Speaker 7: you could look at King Tut's body and say like, Okay,
Speaker 7: these people were basically high functioning retards.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, That's why I'm saying, like, like, is the
Speaker 5: uh And it's funny that the mental aspect gets caught
Speaker 5: into that because like, I'm sure you all are familiar
Speaker 5: with telepathy tapes. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, So I'm wondering if,
Speaker 5: like if that was like a necessary sacrifice to to
Speaker 5: get that level of consciousness here and then and then
Speaker 5: it eventually you distribute it out like I don't know.
Speaker 5: Then we're getting into like some some very very you know,
Speaker 5: fringe topics on this, and and that's why I'm like,
Speaker 5: that's why I'm so confused about the actual purpose of
Speaker 5: of this place of the world that we live in,
Speaker 5: and so is everybody, brother, that it just makes more
Speaker 5: sense to me that that that to study this, to
Speaker 5: study this dimension, a higher level, a higher level entity
Speaker 5: would want to make the best device possible to do that,
Speaker 5: and that seems to be a human in terms of
Speaker 5: this world. So maybe maybe they were doing a little
Speaker 5: bit more experimenting than they should have, because that's also
Speaker 5: in the Bible, right, like they were you know, people
Speaker 5: were playing God too much and like God had to
Speaker 5: shut it down. There's some monstrosities that you probably could
Speaker 5: produce doing this stuff, and I think that, you know,
Speaker 5: we're kind of on the on the verge of approaching
Speaker 5: that territory, and that's why we're seeing more activity, like
Speaker 5: you know, UFO stuff, surveillance, like all this weird plasma phenomenon.
Speaker 5: I think we're just getting a lot of attention because
Speaker 5: we're approaching a boundary that a lot of other civilizations
Speaker 5: have approached, and the ones that are running this are like,
Speaker 5: what are you doing.
Speaker 4: I've been thinking about the other day. I was wondering
Speaker 4: what you think on this.
Speaker 9: So you're familiar with the younger dryas and stuff, right,
Speaker 9: So do you think that a lot of the architecture
Speaker 9: around the world, the megalithic stuff that you know has
Speaker 9: resonans and frequency, were at least a lot of them
Speaker 9: contributing to some sort of overall frequency field of the earth,
Speaker 9: like something like the human resonance for instance. Do you
Speaker 9: think that something like that could have been at a
Speaker 9: higher octave in the past before a lot of it
Speaker 9: was destroyed and that contributed to some of the higher
Speaker 9: cognitive abilities and like telepathy and potentially you know, other
Speaker 9: psychic abilities that would we would have had access to,
Speaker 9: and the destruction of some of that like network or
Speaker 9: system kind of isn't allowing everyone's consciousness to like resonate
Speaker 9: at that higher level to have access to some of
Speaker 9: that some of those abilities potentially.
Speaker 5: That is almost like exactly my theory for.
Speaker 4: It, like ago.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so this is how I look at the old
Speaker 5: stuff because we really have to clearly separate the old
Speaker 5: megalithic from the new temple. Right, So, the old megalithic
Speaker 5: seems to be hardware in terms of like infrastructure, because
Speaker 5: it is colossal, It's meant to withstand a whole bunch
Speaker 5: of shit. It's made out of the hardest stuff on
Speaker 5: this planet, and it's very geometrically accurate despite how old
Speaker 5: it is, right before we even had geometry. This is
Speaker 5: not even talking about temples. So in Egypt, that stuff
Speaker 5: is all buried, all of it is the oldest stuff,
Speaker 5: It is all the biggest stuff, and it is all
Speaker 5: the most weathered.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 5: So I think when when this was getting set up,
Speaker 5: that was essentially the hardware that was balancing out a
Speaker 5: chaotic planet. I think that are are the world now.
Speaker 5: We can't really imagine how it was then, because it
Speaker 5: seems like there was a combination of all of this
Speaker 5: stuff plasma events, earthquakes, volcanos, all of the things that
Speaker 5: we're speculating the younger dryest was going through. There's evidence
Speaker 5: for almost all of it on the planet. So that
Speaker 5: hardware had to be robust enough to withstand all of
Speaker 5: the all of those things. And if we're talking about
Speaker 5: attracting a higher level of intelligence to the planet, we
Speaker 5: have to balance out a chaotic signal. We have to
Speaker 5: make it clear somehow, And that stuff seems to be
Speaker 5: the stuff that was that was clarifying the larger signal
Speaker 5: to inhabit the Earth, and then that kind of like
Speaker 5: got distributed out through different forms of life, and then
Speaker 5: we have our understanding of evolution, where you get beings
Speaker 5: that are capable enough of you know, like speaking and
Speaker 5: and actually thinking, and then you have an intervention time,
Speaker 5: which would be the time that we are all getting now.
Speaker 5: Like from all the ancient cultures that say, you know,
Speaker 5: from after the flood, these guys came, they gave a civilization,
Speaker 5: blah blah blah, those guys intervened, and then they showed
Speaker 5: them through the temples how to evolve themselves. So that's
Speaker 5: where we get like the ancient Indian and ancient Egyptian.
Speaker 5: I would say those two are the are the top ones,
Speaker 5: just because we know most about them. Where they started
Speaker 5: recording this stuff in stone as like a failsafe just
Speaker 5: in case it happened again, because I mean, even if
Speaker 5: it did happen again, the only stuff that would be
Speaker 5: standing is those things still. So like I think it
Speaker 5: was just a gradual evolution, but the older stuff was
Speaker 5: just there to anchor that signal. It was the big
Speaker 5: antenna to just be like, come in here and then
Speaker 5: we'll figure it out as soon as evolution takes off.
Speaker 7: So let me ask you this now, is it the
Speaker 7: stone structures themselves, is it the pyramids, is it the
Speaker 7: temples themselves, or is it the math and sacred geometry
Speaker 7: that went into it? Reason I'm asking you've heard of
Speaker 7: the Hope Indian Sight correct in Ohio? Yeah, Okay, there's
Speaker 7: no stone associated with that. Now, there's different types of
Speaker 7: clay and dirt that was brought in for this, but
Speaker 7: that site was built with all kinds of sacred geometry
Speaker 7: start to finish. Right, every angle is pointing to a
Speaker 7: certain constellation and a certain star. So that's my next spot,
Speaker 7: Like weird are you at this as far as like
Speaker 7: you're talking about the younger drys And they lost a
Speaker 7: lot of things, but some of these structures still stood.
Speaker 7: The Hope Well Indian site still stood right, and it
Speaker 7: was built they believe, I mean, they're still trying to
Speaker 7: argue about when that was actually constructed. It's old as fuck. Yeah,
Speaker 7: that being said, there's no temple surrounding that. It was
Speaker 7: more of an outside nature type of thing, but the
Speaker 7: sacred geometry and the mathematics behind it were still used.
Speaker 6: What's your take on this?
Speaker 5: So this is going into you're tapping into the sectioning
Speaker 5: out of what these things were for me. So when
Speaker 5: I look at them, I would throw Malta as well
Speaker 5: as the Mesoamerican sites in and like Stonehenge, all of these,
Speaker 5: all four of those are in one category for me,
Speaker 5: and that category is is basically terraforming. So what I
Speaker 5: think they were doing was working with with these signals
Speaker 5: to to create sustainable food for us. They were manipulating
Speaker 5: like a genetic lab, plant, plant life, animal life to
Speaker 5: to be able to sustain a larger population. I think
Speaker 5: they knew how to work with that really well. And
Speaker 5: that's very clear in like the in Yucatan and all
Speaker 5: all the places where they they literally and Amazon, they
Speaker 5: literally made the Amazon rainforest. It's almost all entirely human engineered. Yeah,
Speaker 5: so they they clearly had a superb understanding of what
Speaker 5: was going on with uh, you know, plant genetics. So
Speaker 5: I think that that the all the American sites had
Speaker 5: some sort of similar theme there where they were trying
Speaker 5: to that they could connect with nature on a level
Speaker 5: where they it was more like a psilocybin type trip
Speaker 5: where it's it's wavy. It shows you where spots of
Speaker 5: high magnetism are. It shows you where spots of pure
Speaker 5: water are. It shows you where the best plants that
Speaker 5: you can eat are. It gives you, It gives you
Speaker 5: signals and and you read that as as data. And
Speaker 5: so if I feel really good on on my you know,
Speaker 5: peyote trip, and I see this, uh, this plant, and
Speaker 5: it's like talking to me and saying, hey, take me,
Speaker 5: eat me, you know, like like then they do that,
Speaker 5: they cultivate that. Then it's like a bigger it becomes
Speaker 5: a bigger thing. So I think those sites there and
Speaker 5: they they were a little bit more on the like
Speaker 5: laboratory level, whereas something like the Ossyrian that was buried
Speaker 5: and you know, huge monumental architecture that that's quite literally
Speaker 5: impossible to build. That was meant for because if you
Speaker 5: look at the Oceyrian, it's like it's a deep pool
Speaker 5: like that. We don't really even know how deep the
Speaker 5: water goes in there, so it looks like a well,
Speaker 5: you know, like a giant it well that you can
Speaker 5: walk through. And what I think that was doing was
Speaker 5: taking the resonance. It was. It was a tune chamber
Speaker 5: and it was tuned to like what Nick was saying,
Speaker 5: the resonances of this planet. It was. It was tuned
Speaker 5: to interact with whether it's seismic or ELF or EM
Speaker 5: or radio, some sort of wave was interacting with it,
Speaker 5: and that was manipulating the water. So I think the
Speaker 5: water is the is the key. Here is the gateway
Speaker 5: to taking the invisible, putting it into the physical. And
Speaker 5: then the water the frequency of the water interacts with
Speaker 5: the materials, which is going to be more crystals, right,
Speaker 5: It's going to be more of your your your the
Speaker 5: body is made of We need crystals. Minerals are what
Speaker 5: keep us going right, So it interacts with those things,
Speaker 5: which are also very receptive to frequencies, both water and crystals.
Speaker 5: So I think once you take that big signal, you
Speaker 5: distribute it out through the hardware, then you have your
Speaker 5: your lower levels of life that are able to be
Speaker 5: formed from the geometry that was shaped by that infrastructure.
Speaker 5: So different different classes of stuff, and then you can't
Speaker 5: we can't throw like cathedrals or even the like dynastic
Speaker 5: temples in there because they serve a different function for
Speaker 5: higher consciousness. So we have to look at all of
Speaker 5: these things in a different a different lens for each
Speaker 5: one as roles that they were playing in evolution. That's
Speaker 5: how I think of it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's something that I thought of too, as far
Speaker 3: as like the the Egyptians and possibly what they were
Speaker 3: being used for, as far as like the ancient cathedrals
Speaker 3: and whatnot, because you know, they had the domes and
Speaker 3: the spires, and it seemed like they were trying to
Speaker 3: draw in some kind of energy, whether it be spiritual energy,
Speaker 3: spiritual information or whatever. And then you look all around
Speaker 3: and it's all almost like structurally, you know, geometrically perfect
Speaker 3: on the inside, and you got all the different stained
Speaker 3: glass windows, and you got the the frequencies that are
Speaker 3: being played on the inside with you know, the what
Speaker 3: are the giant pianos called. I can't remember what the organs, Yes,
Speaker 3: the organs and stuff, and I just feel like that
Speaker 3: that they were almost trying to turn the ancient cathedrals
Speaker 3: into some kind of frequency generator at that point.
Speaker 7: Well, the good God, I was gonna say, you're talking
Speaker 7: about how they were basically doing gene splicing two plants
Speaker 7: back in those days and trying to produce a better
Speaker 7: yield and a better crop. And I mean Raven Lee
Speaker 7: could also speak on this pretty intelligently as well. There's
Speaker 7: all kinds of record of them doing genetic modifications to plants,
Speaker 7: even in the ancient times to get a better yield.
Speaker 8: I do have a question though about I was wondering
Speaker 8: what you thought about the fairy rings in Africa and
Speaker 8: how that ties in to potential nature, because like there's
Speaker 8: a lot of theories going around still in the scientific
Speaker 8: community about how and why they're formed pretty much like
Speaker 8: plants are fighting over.
Speaker 10: Nutrition and stuff like that.
Speaker 8: Plus on top of the certain type of insects, and
Speaker 8: they're like kind of arguing, but they not one actual
Speaker 8: thing has been proven about why and how they created
Speaker 8: in perfect circles.
Speaker 5: I I again, that's one of those ones that kind
Speaker 5: of throws me for a loop as well. And I
Speaker 5: have to This is one of the things that Robert
Speaker 5: taught me. Robert Gilbert when we were I was talking
Speaker 5: to him, he was like, the geometry when you think
Speaker 5: about the the sacred geometry of like our devices today,
Speaker 5: they're they're made that way because that's the interference pattern
Speaker 5: that they create. Like an antenna, a circular radial antenna
Speaker 5: is arranged in a way to to take a signal
Speaker 5: in or to resonate with a certain signal and then
Speaker 5: trans transfer that into actual usable data. Right. So so
Speaker 5: whenever I look at the circles, I'm always like, Okay,
Speaker 5: go back to Stonehenge where it's it's aligned. It's It's
Speaker 5: what I was saying earlier, it contains a vortex. A
Speaker 5: circle is the only thing that can do that. If
Speaker 5: it's not a circle, then the wartex just it's chaos.
Speaker 5: So so looking at those things and the way that
Speaker 5: the plants are are are doing what they're doing. What
Speaker 5: I think it is is those things are hot spots, right,
Speaker 5: They're hotspots for a really good signal, some sort of
Speaker 5: like something something was designed to receive something at that spot,
Speaker 5: whether it's stonehands or these or these stone circles, and
Speaker 5: then we can like the ones in South Africa, the
Speaker 5: ones that Michael Tellinger talks about, those with the ring stones,
Speaker 5: they're all like resonant and they made these circles.
Speaker 10: There are all different types of diameters too.
Speaker 8: I think each one of them is a different size,
Speaker 8: but they're all perfect circles. And then you can't figure
Speaker 8: out why.
Speaker 5: That's what that's So that's why I'm like, Okay, if
Speaker 5: it's pulling in this this signal or resonating with a
Speaker 5: certain type of signal, then there's probably a bunch of
Speaker 5: plants that resonate with that signal. Right, And we know
Speaker 5: that that DNA is an antenna, Like there's a bunch
Speaker 5: of papers on this, it's in in electromagnetic fields. We've
Speaker 5: tested this, and it's it resonates and that's plants or animals.
Speaker 5: So so that signal seems to be like the most
Speaker 5: attractive signal to those plants or insects, right, So if
Speaker 5: they were, if they were testing this out, if I
Speaker 5: was testing this theory out, I would make a bunch
Speaker 5: of them. I would make a bunch of different sizes,
Speaker 5: of different shapes, different geometries, different like combinations of these
Speaker 5: circles and see which ones were the ones that were
Speaker 5: making the best plants, which ones like resonated most with
Speaker 5: the ones that I wanted to grow, And then once that,
Speaker 5: once that was like achieved, then we can adjust that
Speaker 5: and then copy paste everywhere else that we like we
Speaker 5: see in uh in the Amazon. So again, that one's
Speaker 5: that one is still kind of like a deep mystery
Speaker 5: for me. But like the stone circle phenomena in general,
Speaker 5: I think is just like basically opening up a channel
Speaker 5: for specific frequencies of that you know, information and that
Speaker 5: that would explain the alignment and stuff as well if
Speaker 5: we're making a connection with a certain space up there
Speaker 5: to get that.
Speaker 7: So yeah, so when I heard fairy rings, I was
Speaker 7: thinking more like those mushroom rings that grow all over
Speaker 7: the place.
Speaker 6: I thought that's where she was going with that.
Speaker 7: Yeah, And I was gonna say, if that's for some
Speaker 7: sort of plant that needs a certain time of nutrient
Speaker 7: Now I'm concerned because them bitches pop up in my
Speaker 7: yard all the time, and I have I've put a
Speaker 7: bonfire in the middle of one one time because I
Speaker 7: thought it looked cool for the picture.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Now I'm wondering if I burned some sort of a
Speaker 7: fey realm door or some shit.
Speaker 6: So thanks for that. That's cool.
Speaker 5: Sorry, I mean, so I get the uh. I've so
Speaker 5: looking at these even more because I've I've seen a
Speaker 5: little bit about them, but not like the most the
Speaker 5: the uh. They're reminding me of the those colossal circle
Speaker 5: earthworks that are in the Amazon and in uh Great Britain,
Speaker 5: where it's just like mounds of chalk, like they form
Speaker 5: them into the you know, the circles and stuff. So
Speaker 5: I'm wondering, I'm wondering if that that specific spot is one.
Speaker 5: It's like a it's a very hot spot on the
Speaker 5: Earth where there's a lot coming out, and then there's
Speaker 5: also a gap in the you know, ion a sphere
Speaker 5: or something making this channel where these higher levels of
Speaker 5: intelligence can kind of just go through it instead of
Speaker 5: being filtered out by the atmosphere. Ion as fear of
Speaker 5: stratify all of these things that are that are protecting
Speaker 5: the life on Earth. There's there's little baby vortex gaps
Speaker 5: in that where where some can come through and kind
Speaker 5: of give a little bit more intelligence or information, or
Speaker 5: you know, have like a a non human baby essentially
Speaker 5: like a little like impregnate the earth, which would explain
Speaker 5: the fertility stuff that we see everywhere. Those spots may
Speaker 5: have been the channels for that.
Speaker 6: That's that's as far as I got there.
Speaker 3: Actually, did you just kind of sparked a little idea
Speaker 3: in my mind? All of these uh these there's a
Speaker 3: lot of stories, not just the Jesus story, but there's
Speaker 3: a lot of stories of you know, these people or
Speaker 3: deities being born of a virgin.
Speaker 2: Do you think that that's what's really going on?
Speaker 3: Is that it's it's more of a like a like
Speaker 3: a fucking consciousness transfer, And that's why it didn't necessarily
Speaker 3: need to have the male and the female thing going
Speaker 3: on there, Like what do you think is going on
Speaker 3: with that?
Speaker 5: Hundred percent? That's I like the fact that that is
Speaker 5: a story and it's like cross culturally a thing pretty
Speaker 5: much everywhere that that seems whenever I see those, I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 5: there's some sort of deeper esoteric like fundamental code of
Speaker 5: reality that's going into this story, and it was just
Speaker 5: only able to be told in the sense that people
Speaker 5: could understand it, which is, there was a there was
Speaker 5: a dead planet and it needed life and it had
Speaker 5: to had to get it somehow, you know, like so
Speaker 5: we had to activate the planet. So I like the
Speaker 5: the hot spots, Like how how they're so uh like phallic.
Speaker 5: I guess you could say, you know, whether it's an
Speaker 5: obelisk or a men here things like that of that nature.
Speaker 5: Those seem to be like the uh, the the indicators
Speaker 5: of one of those spots and the fact that they
Speaker 5: are the material that they are. I think that's what
Speaker 5: that means. Is like when you when you have that
Speaker 5: that resonance obelisk in the ground at one of these spots,
Speaker 5: and they're always under some fucking like ancient aquifer or
Speaker 5: something too. Like, there's so many things that always line
Speaker 5: up with them that I think there was pure water
Speaker 5: a good spot. There's a hole that in the atmosphere
Speaker 5: that are some you know, connection there that you could
Speaker 5: link up to a higher form of intelligence, most likely
Speaker 5: transmitted through a plasma of some sort, right, and that
Speaker 5: signal can be held in the water, and then once
Speaker 5: that signal interacts with minerals and whatever's in the soil,
Speaker 5: it essentially kind of like self organizes in a way.
Speaker 5: Like I'm not one hundred percent like I feel more
Speaker 5: of the Prometheus vibe when it comes to like if
Speaker 5: we're terraforming the planet, like there had to be like
Speaker 5: a pan spermia seed or something. But I think once
Speaker 5: it's there and you have like a base to work with,
Speaker 5: I think everything else is more of like how are
Speaker 5: you going to manipulate this planet to open it up
Speaker 5: as a receiver to get the right intelligences that you
Speaker 5: want in the right spot that you want. Are we
Speaker 5: just like a giant seed bank? Is this where everybody
Speaker 5: takes their shit? And then like you know, this is
Speaker 5: how the Druids did it. They put them in here
Speaker 5: up here, and that now they can access their information.
Speaker 5: You know, this is how the Egyptians did it. They
Speaker 5: build obelisks, that's how they access their information. I think
Speaker 5: that's more of a plausible scenario for that. But the
Speaker 5: fertility stuff is the fact that it's so ubiquitous across
Speaker 5: everything is just like red flag for me.
Speaker 3: Right right, Well, and then you get into like the
Speaker 3: some of the symbolism around being born again, right, and
Speaker 3: I and I, you know, kind of theorized that, you know,
Speaker 3: whenever somebody you know has a story of you know,
Speaker 3: almost like a woman being impregnated by an angel or
Speaker 3: God or divine intelligence or whatever. I just kind of
Speaker 3: assume that that is some kind of right that is
Speaker 3: done through a like a death ritual almost because whenever
Speaker 3: you go through that death ritual, you didn't necessarily need
Speaker 3: a father to plant the seed because you were already there,
Speaker 3: and so you're sinless and innocent all because you're born again.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 5: Yes, that's that's pretty much exactly in line with what
Speaker 5: I feel. I get the it's the best way. I
Speaker 5: like to describe that as like the cathedral like analogy
Speaker 5: towards it, because every cathedral is essentially a hypercube. It's
Speaker 5: it's it's a cross cubical cross, right, but it's like
Speaker 5: in three D that's a that's a hypercube. If you
Speaker 5: fold it up, it's like a forty forty square forty cube. So,
Speaker 5: and those are always over water, and those are always aligned,
Speaker 5: and those are always acoustic, and they're always like they
Speaker 5: they share similar all the elements of a temple, right,
Speaker 5: So I think they're more like when we talk about
Speaker 5: the psychedelic experience that was always that was definitely happened
Speaker 5: in the crypt and probably the most filtered out again
Speaker 5: filtered out version of that building. And then the acoustics. Obviously,
Speaker 5: if you're creating, if you're guiding it, if you can
Speaker 5: guide it with your voice, imagine what you can do
Speaker 5: with a pipe organ, you know, like you've been like
Speaker 5: psychedelics on just listening to d is the experience in itself,
Speaker 5: so like like translate that into something that's very precisely
Speaker 5: calculated over thousands of years to navigate a world that
Speaker 5: is more real than this. That seems to me like
Speaker 5: if I was doing that, I could be like, hey,
Speaker 5: this body is about to expire. How do I, you know,
Speaker 5: like save my game here and then do this again?
Speaker 5: Like that seems to be a question I would like
Speaker 5: to ask if I was out there, you know, and
Speaker 5: then maybe an intelligence was like, hey, you just got
Speaker 5: to build this over the water, and then you got
Speaker 5: to make it like this and then plug this in
Speaker 5: and then you just got to chill for a little
Speaker 5: while while you just regenerate, and then you can come
Speaker 5: back and then the right ritual, right circumstances, you smell
Speaker 5: this stuff, then boom your back to me. If I
Speaker 5: was if I was caught talking to an alien or
Speaker 5: something or like a ya, non human intelligence, that that
Speaker 5: seems to be a very very important question that I
Speaker 5: would ask in those times as well, Like if I was,
Speaker 5: you know, I had a family, and I was like,
Speaker 5: how do I make sure that I come back and
Speaker 5: make sure they're okay?
Speaker 2: You know, like, dude, I'll tell you what you ain't
Speaker 2: lying about. You know.
Speaker 3: The the some music that you listen to while you're
Speaker 3: on psychedelics, it's almost like you're listening to it and
Speaker 3: you can't even properly like enjoy it to the level
Speaker 3: that it was made to be enjoyed unless you're in
Speaker 3: that altered state. Like there's certain things within music that
Speaker 3: you only hear whenever you're paying way more closely attention,
Speaker 3: and I almost feel like they're they're like little easter eggs,
Speaker 3: you know, like they're just like little special things that
Speaker 3: you hear that you wouldn't have heard otherwise.
Speaker 7: Yeah, like the entire musical collection of The Grateful Dead.
Speaker 7: If you're listening to that sober first of all, you
Speaker 7: probably just got really horrible taste. If you're listening to
Speaker 7: it fucked up, it makes hole much of sense, brother,
Speaker 7: talk to Tucker Carlson about it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a lot. I feel like there's a lot
Speaker 5: of bands too, though, like you got some. I've even
Speaker 5: on like the I would say the darker side, but
Speaker 5: I still love them Tool. They were some of the
Speaker 5: first people that I listen to whilst tripping, and I
Speaker 5: didn't really vibe with that. I've never been like on
Speaker 5: more of the darker side and more on the like
Speaker 5: lighter side, but I still funk around with it because
Speaker 5: it's fun. But I watched that and I was like, oh,
Speaker 5: this made so much more sense.
Speaker 7: I've never considered listening to Maynard while I was tripping
Speaker 7: on some sort of psychedelic That's that's wild, brother.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's like d m T. It's Alex Gray anyway.
Speaker 6: Well you know there there are.
Speaker 7: Their album art is always very very psychedelic and all
Speaker 7: these things, no doubt, but I've never in my life
Speaker 7: thought of listening to like the Pot while I was
Speaker 7: tripping on something.
Speaker 6: That that would fuck me up.
Speaker 5: Dude, it did.
Speaker 6: But like, if I'm tripping let's like Thist's listen to
Speaker 6: some spungle you know what.
Speaker 5: I'm yeah, yeah, but.
Speaker 6: Fuck yeah, let's go Maynard with the amazing vocals. Ship.
Speaker 5: I think though, that now we're in I'm glad we're
Speaker 5: going in this direction too, because this is like you
Speaker 5: guys are are all edm people. Honestly, I know Nick is,
Speaker 5: but soon y'all are too. I think that this is
Speaker 5: kind of a evolution of the process too. I've called like,
Speaker 5: so next year, I'm rolling out my project and it's
Speaker 5: called a temporary temple, and I think that's actually exactly
Speaker 5: what's happening with the community here. Is like we set
Speaker 5: up these spaces that are you know, either indoor outdoor,
Speaker 5: but the artist is in some way, shape or form,
Speaker 5: i would say, channeling some sort of information that that
Speaker 5: can be transmitted through the experience. And that's you know again,
Speaker 5: it's aligning your senses. You have the audio visual with
Speaker 5: the whole you know setup, you have everybody kind of
Speaker 5: on the same vibe in terms of the crowd, and
Speaker 5: and you have this experience where that person can transmit
Speaker 5: more information in an hour set than you would get
Speaker 5: in four years of college. You know, like you you
Speaker 5: just get this this epiphany of downloads. I guess of
Speaker 5: things that didn't make sense before that makes sense now
Speaker 5: and you have a hard time coming unicating it. And
Speaker 5: that's that's the beauty of where we're going with this
Speaker 5: is these are portable. You don't have to in terms
Speaker 5: of like, you know, the world's fucked up. I'm I'm
Speaker 5: doing my best to kind of put a dent in that.
Speaker 5: I hope everybody is like, but I think one of
Speaker 5: the things that can really do that effectively is is
Speaker 5: the you know EDM culture. And you know, if we
Speaker 5: if we keep it in the same same state that
Speaker 5: it's in now, like those things why I call it
Speaker 5: temporary temple is you can pop this ship up wherever
Speaker 5: you want, you know, like in a whatever country you're at.
Speaker 5: It can bring a sound system in place at play
Speaker 5: a set like this is this is where we're at now.
Speaker 5: And like if you if you look at the top
Speaker 5: people like headliner people right now in in in ed M,
Speaker 5: they each have their own like fucking genre flavor, Like
Speaker 5: they're all in the same genre, but they have their
Speaker 5: own flavor. You have you know, Excision Dinosaur Man, you
Speaker 5: have Subtronics, who's fucking like quantum as fuck. You have
Speaker 5: hypnotic reys, you have all all of these like ganja,
Speaker 5: you want to really connect with your weed side. All
Speaker 5: of this stuff is teaching you something that they've learned
Speaker 5: while they were in altered states or they were trying
Speaker 5: to channel their creative message through this, And the way
Speaker 5: we consume it now is wildly different than we ever
Speaker 5: have and it's very impactful and it's often life changing
Speaker 5: to most people that do it properly. So I think
Speaker 5: what we're going to enter in is a is a
Speaker 5: form of education that isn't like a textbook related anymore.
Speaker 5: It's like an experiential education that I can transmit everything
Speaker 5: that I know, at least in some form to you
Speaker 5: within in the hour, and then if you're interested in
Speaker 5: that specific genre of knowledge, then I have all this
Speaker 5: stuff over here, like I have books and videos and
Speaker 5: stuff you could check out too. You know. That's that's
Speaker 5: like the new way of doing.
Speaker 4: It, like an auditory renaissance exactly.
Speaker 5: Yeah, dude.
Speaker 3: You know what's so funny too, is that So I
Speaker 3: did DMT last year and fucking Nick put on Ketamine
Speaker 3: music and I was like, is this supposed to mix
Speaker 3: you know, but it worked, you know, And it's strange
Speaker 3: because you know, your trip almost simulates exactly what you're hearing,
Speaker 3: you know, like, and it was so strange because it
Speaker 3: was the end of a song and my trip ended
Speaker 3: on DMT. It was like perfectly synchronized.
Speaker 7: It was so so With that being said, now, I
Speaker 7: know that a lot of people are fucking around with
Speaker 7: horse tranquilizers these days. If I put that on and
Speaker 7: put on like old country Western music, is that shit
Speaker 7: just gonna fucking send. I'm not trying to downplay, Jonathan,
Speaker 7: I'm genuinely asking it.
Speaker 4: Nay nay like a horse.
Speaker 1: Ah.
Speaker 6: Yes, indeed.
Speaker 7: But that's also pretty cool. I remember I was. Was
Speaker 7: I there for that one, Jonathan.
Speaker 2: That's the only time I've ever done DMT. Yeah, that's true,
Speaker 2: that's true.
Speaker 6: That was a period in Florida.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that was a wild experience because you had such
Speaker 7: a profound experience first with the with the patterns, the shape,
Speaker 7: all these things. Then doubled down and went a little
Speaker 7: too far and went into the hole of it and
Speaker 7: then saw the into the abyss.
Speaker 5: Brother, you went into the void.
Speaker 3: I went into the void. I thought, I thought I
Speaker 3: deleted reality, bro.
Speaker 5: My buddy, you know, zach Nick. He went into the
Speaker 5: void and dance fest and oh.
Speaker 7: My god, what a horrible place to have that kind
Speaker 7: of existential experience.
Speaker 5: Oh bro, it was at uh No when the festival
Speaker 5: was over to We're sitting on the roof of the
Speaker 5: RV and we were all like like, just wanted to
Speaker 5: do some DMT and like, I had a great time.
Speaker 5: But he like fucking ripped it, like there was like
Speaker 5: a little bit left and just cleared the whole thing
Speaker 5: and then just silence for a while. And I was like, oh,
Speaker 5: this isn't normal and looked over and freaks out. He
Speaker 5: wakes up and he was like, dude, there was nothing.
Speaker 6: It was nothing.
Speaker 5: I felt like I was there for years and I
Speaker 5: was like, oh, you went to the void.
Speaker 9: It can be very enlightening though after when you reorient
Speaker 9: your entire being and uh.
Speaker 10: Okay, theory, is it like purgatory?
Speaker 3: No, No, it's just nothingness you plus nothing.
Speaker 5: It's it's the biggest room of black that you've ever seen.
Speaker 5: There's nothing around you and you are alone. Then time
Speaker 5: doesn't exist here.
Speaker 6: So you're like, sounds fucking horrible.
Speaker 5: No, But I think, but I think if you are
Speaker 5: like one. This is why alignment in terms of like
Speaker 5: whether it's a temple or yourself alignment is so important
Speaker 5: because I think there's probably something that the the you know,
Speaker 5: the DMT overlords are trying to show you, is like, hey,
Speaker 5: don't abuse your time here, like you maybe look at
Speaker 5: this over here, because if you don't, there's the void
Speaker 5: you could go into. So I think they show you
Speaker 5: what you need when you need it. And I've been
Speaker 5: like and I've been denied entry into d MT land.
Speaker 5: I've seen some of the coolest stuff ever. It's like
Speaker 5: one of those things that they know where you're at,
Speaker 5: Like that chemical knows where you're at, and it gives
Speaker 5: you exactly what you need versus you know, like like
Speaker 5: psilocybin could take you onto the waviest journey of all time.
Speaker 5: Acid could be like like a fucking twenty hour thing
Speaker 5: or ten hour thing like it. There's different there's different
Speaker 5: flavors to each one, but DMT seems to be the
Speaker 5: most like tuned into you as a being more than
Speaker 5: anything else.
Speaker 3: Dude, I'll tell you what because I did it twice
Speaker 3: in that night, and the first time was really awesome,
Speaker 3: and right after it, I was like, dude, I want
Speaker 3: to do this every day for the rest of my existence.
Speaker 2: I need to do it.
Speaker 3: Is the most fucking magical spiritual thing I've ever experienced. Right,
Speaker 3: And then I did it again, but I doubled up
Speaker 3: on the dosage and that was probably not a good idea.
Speaker 2: And then I.
Speaker 3: Went straight void and I was like, probably never doing
Speaker 3: that again, you know. So and and to be real, dude,
Speaker 3: like that, you know, it was it was horrifying, Like
Speaker 3: it was a full on fucking nightmare. It was the
Speaker 3: worst nightmare I think any As a matter of fact,
Speaker 3: right after I said, I wouldn't even want Hitler to
Speaker 3: go through that shit like it was that fucking dude,
Speaker 3: it was terrifying. And but as a result, that's something
Speaker 3: that has stuck with me literally since then, and it
Speaker 3: has been the most profound spiritual thing. That the the
Speaker 3: one thing that I always relate everything back to, you know.
Speaker 3: And and I I'm it sucked that I had to
Speaker 3: do it, and it suck that I had to experience it,
Speaker 3: but it was I mean, the weight of it. That
Speaker 3: about how I'm looking at life right now. It's invaluable.
Speaker 5: You know, You're not gonna learn that any other way. No,
Speaker 5: that's one of those things that's like, again, everyone talks
Speaker 5: about this, but like you can't explain psychedelics to anybody,
Speaker 5: Like it's really, well, I don't care what it is,
Speaker 5: but dnt especially, But like the lessons that you get
Speaker 5: are so hyper tailored to your specific state of mind
Speaker 5: and your specific like where you're at in space time
Speaker 5: that it's almost like a like a cheat code or something.
Speaker 5: You know, whether it's a good experience or a bad experience.
Speaker 5: I've had some some pretty gnarly ones myself where I
Speaker 5: was just like, can this please fucking end? Like I
Speaker 5: just want to go back to But that's like that's
Speaker 5: kind of the lesson of it, though. It's like, Okay,
Speaker 5: we are curious creatures. We want to find out what
Speaker 5: the what the infinite's like, or what it's like to
Speaker 5: be up there. Maybe it's like, you know, it's not
Speaker 5: as as great as you want it to be because
Speaker 5: you are everything and you're connected with everything. But it's
Speaker 5: like I want to be with my friends. I want
Speaker 5: to I want to have people to talk to about this.
Speaker 5: I don't want to this is so cool and I
Speaker 5: can do anything, and like all this stuff is the
Speaker 5: craziest shit I've ever seen. But like the they're they're
Speaker 5: showing you that the value is actually the experience here, Like,
Speaker 5: don't take it for granted because this is this is
Speaker 5: very rare. I'm sure there's probably more non physical entities
Speaker 5: than there are physical entities, and so there's probably not
Speaker 5: enough bodies for them to actually have an experience. And
Speaker 5: that's why like you know, not having kids as a
Speaker 5: center or whatever on a lot of religions, like it's
Speaker 5: we're trying to get more people here. We're trying to
Speaker 5: have more people so they can have this experience. And
Speaker 5: then if you take it for granted, they kind of
Speaker 5: are like, hey, remember this, Remember how you didn't want
Speaker 5: to be here and you came here because that was
Speaker 5: scary and boring or like that was too much for
Speaker 5: you to handle it. Yeah, like enjoy this.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: It definitely makes the the mundane more magical, I think, right.
Speaker 7: You know, speaking of the mundane and being magical. And
Speaker 7: I know you're gonna have to head out here in
Speaker 7: a minute there, Tyler, But before we do, I wanted
Speaker 7: to ask you what is your take on Coral Castle.
Speaker 6: Are you familiar with it?
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, lead's common.
Speaker 7: Okay, So what is your take on it? Was he
Speaker 7: using sound? Was he using magnets? How did he do
Speaker 7: it all by himself in the middle of the night,
Speaker 7: over the course of a couple of weeks? How did
Speaker 7: he build this structure? You with your background and your
Speaker 7: take on the engineering plus the esoteric plus the ancient ways,
Speaker 7: what do you make of it?
Speaker 5: So that one threw me for a loop because I
Speaker 5: was always in the camp of like, Okay, if they were,
Speaker 5: if they had let's assume that they were the ancients,
Speaker 5: they were very more tuned into this reality than we are,
Speaker 5: and they could like you know, levitationhit and do all that, Like,
Speaker 5: how would they do it? Like reverse engineering? That kind
Speaker 5: of makes sense with granite because it has different properties, right,
Speaker 5: Coral does not. Coral is just Coral's that's what he's
Speaker 5: built that thing out of.
Speaker 6: So, but coral is also a living entity as well.
Speaker 5: It is. So, so my whole thesis on you know,
Speaker 5: moving big ship is all leverage, whether it's mechanical or
Speaker 5: electrical or acoustic or whatever whatever you want to use.
Speaker 5: The devices that he that that were found that we
Speaker 5: know of, were in the proper proportions to be working
Speaker 5: with like similar stuff to what Tesla was working with. Yeah,
Speaker 5: and I think there was I think there was an
Speaker 5: electromagnetic component to it, and I don't think it was
Speaker 5: actually in the the blocks themselves. I don't think he
Speaker 5: resonated the blocks enough to where they were weightless and
Speaker 5: like or magnetically decoupled them from the earth just because
Speaker 5: it's coral. So what I think what I think was
Speaker 5: going on was he somehow was using other materials to
Speaker 5: kind of act as like a palette to lift them.
Speaker 9: Uh.
Speaker 5: That that makes a little bit more sense to me.
Speaker 5: But they there's also accounts of him using the cones, right, Yeah,
Speaker 5: those those little con and those have been found in
Speaker 5: like in an ancient Egypt and in Tibet and Ti
Speaker 5: Bet there are you know, accounts of you know, monks
Speaker 5: levitating and they them actually levitating the stones. And these
Speaker 5: are old, old, old accounts, right. In both of those
Speaker 5: they have the cones, and you can see it in
Speaker 5: the Egyptian in the Egyptian hieroglyphs, they have a weird
Speaker 5: cone tool. So that one, that one still blows my mind.
Speaker 5: That's why I haven't made a video on it, is
Speaker 5: because I keep getting like little pieces of this. But
Speaker 5: I don't have a cohesive enough theory to make it
Speaker 5: make sense. But I know that the one thing there's
Speaker 5: there's sacred geometry in magnetic devices, and there was cones used.
Speaker 5: And also he did use mechanical advantage at times. There
Speaker 5: was there was you know, he is found using sort
Speaker 5: of like crane things like wood in triangles to lift it.
Speaker 5: So I think, I really think he used a blend
Speaker 5: of everything with it. But he was definitely If you
Speaker 5: try and say he was not into esoteric shit, then
Speaker 5: I call you crazy. Like everyone that's made a video
Speaker 5: on this has just said it's pure hard work. I'm like, no,
Speaker 5: that dude was in it.
Speaker 6: I could at least see the whole hard work thing.
Speaker 7: There's I forget the name of the guy who he's
Speaker 7: basically showing how he can move like a.
Speaker 6: Two ton boulder with a long ear. Yeah.
Speaker 7: Yeah, And don't get me wrong, that's excellent and I
Speaker 7: can agree with a lot of that. I think there
Speaker 7: was probably a lot more of that that went into
Speaker 7: building a lot of these big megalithic structures than what
Speaker 7: people believe.
Speaker 6: I get this.
Speaker 7: It's the cutting of the stones that I or the
Speaker 7: coral that I have an issue with. He wasn't just
Speaker 7: making blocks. He was cutting Saturn and a crescent moon
Speaker 7: and making these very specific shapes out of it as well.
Speaker 6: And when asked, how do he do it, Oh, don't
Speaker 6: worry about it. I just figured out the secret of
Speaker 6: agent Egypt.
Speaker 7: What do you mean, I'm just gonna kind of take
Speaker 7: it to the grave, just enjoy him a fucking castle.
Speaker 6: Wait what Yeah?
Speaker 5: So I do think it has a lot. There may
Speaker 5: be a component of like Malcolm Mendel's research in terms
Speaker 5: of like plasmoids and stuff like that, where if you,
Speaker 5: you know, if you can focus these things and use them,
Speaker 5: dig deep into his research and you'll you'll find out
Speaker 5: that he is very scientific, but he's very esoteric at
Speaker 5: the same time. He almost He talks about communicating with
Speaker 5: the plasmoids. If you get deep enough into his his
Speaker 5: work Nick communicating, Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So like
Speaker 5: they they will not. One of the things he said
Speaker 5: is if you try and make something destructive or a
Speaker 5: weapon with them, they don't want to, they don't participate,
Speaker 5: they don't want to listen to you. But if it's
Speaker 5: something productive or something that they find has a pure
Speaker 5: intent from what you're trying to create, they will assist you.
Speaker 5: So I think that there's like so many layers to this.
Speaker 5: There's like the regular material physics layer that we're talking about,
Speaker 5: mechanic advantage and all this stuff devices right to generate
Speaker 5: whatever he used to cut these things. Then there's a
Speaker 5: level of mild esoteric with like the sacred geometry and
Speaker 5: these these cones that were maybe directing or cutting with
Speaker 5: these cones. Then there's the heavy esoteric where it's like, okay,
Speaker 5: I got it from ancient Egypt. There could be this
Speaker 5: this you know, plasma interaction and and what we're learning
Speaker 5: about plasma now is fucking blowing my mind. It's like
Speaker 5: reactive to you and all of this stuff. And like
Speaker 5: so I think there was I think he tapped into
Speaker 5: that at a level that was on par with Tesla
Speaker 5: in a more esoteric sense, and that he could kind
Speaker 5: of negotiate with these things to help him that. I
Speaker 5: know that's a little out there, but like at this
Speaker 5: point in our understanding, that's that's really what we're working
Speaker 5: with until we get more data, which I love that
Speaker 5: he's doing, like Malcolm's doing, I think this is going
Speaker 5: to be a up in the air thing until someone
Speaker 5: does it.
Speaker 7: Bro cool Cast was mind blowing no matter what way
Speaker 7: you slice it, Honestly, even the narrative, even if it's
Speaker 7: all a hoax, and this guy absolutely was using heavy
Speaker 7: machinery and equipment, you realize how many people in his neighborhood,
Speaker 7: in a rain of town he would have had to
Speaker 7: pay off to make them say, oh yeah, he wasn't
Speaker 7: keeping us up working only at night for the past decade.
Speaker 6: It's whatever, that doesn't make sense.
Speaker 7: And then to say that he was using heavy esotericism
Speaker 7: to do it, that also sounds crazy, but it makes
Speaker 7: more sense than many of the other opportunities on it.
Speaker 5: It's yeah, you tell me that there's like more than
Speaker 5: two or three people keeping a secret. I'm like, that's bullshit.
Speaker 5: Someone would have came out, someone would have said something.
Speaker 5: They would have been like I saw him do it
Speaker 5: after fifty years, like it was a good hoax, wanted
Speaker 5: to keep the memory because he died and whatever, but
Speaker 5: like I saw him use a backo.
Speaker 6: See that's my issue with the flat earth community too. Well.
Speaker 7: I have many issues with the flat earth community honestly,
Speaker 7: but let's be real. But like you realize how many
Speaker 7: people would have to be in on it. Everybody on Earth, basically,
Speaker 7: everyone on earth, every pilot, every ship captain, every political figure,
Speaker 7: every general, admiral, every So you're telling me for centuries
Speaker 7: and millennias, every one of these dudes were brought into
Speaker 7: a room and told what was up, and they just
Speaker 7: there's no fucking way, just through human error. There's no
Speaker 7: fucking way.
Speaker 5: So they're telling these people that, but you you broadcasting
Speaker 5: your flower theory on the internet. They didn't come to
Speaker 5: you and be like, hey, this is a secret. You
Speaker 5: can't say this, you can't. We got to keep this down.
Speaker 7: You know, I've never put their shadow banning them on YouTube.
Speaker 7: It's like, no, it's just because the contents asked, thank
Speaker 7: you shadow band.
Speaker 5: That's the excuse everybody uses when their content sucks too.
Speaker 5: It's like I got shadow band the other day.
Speaker 7: It was just like, you know, right, this clip was
Speaker 7: about to go viral, but you know how they'd be
Speaker 7: banning me. And then you watch the clip and you're like, yeah, brother,
Speaker 7: that that's why did you go viral?
Speaker 3: I mean, there is such thing as shadow banning, but
Speaker 3: a lot of people, you know, try and take that
Speaker 3: and use that as theirs, and it's like, you.
Speaker 5: Know, maybe you know maybe, but like also maybe not.
Speaker 6: Like I think there's a little bit of both.
Speaker 7: There's absolute channels that do like the algorithm is going
Speaker 7: out of its way to fuck with them. That happens
Speaker 7: for sure. But yeah, again to the whole flat earth
Speaker 7: thing or just how there has to be so many
Speaker 7: people in on it to keep it a secret. And
Speaker 7: I'm with you, brother, If three people are holding a
Speaker 7: secret in the course of a decade, that's not going
Speaker 7: to be a secret.
Speaker 5: And if it was okay, that my that's my number
Speaker 5: one argument against it. But my number two is like,
Speaker 5: if it was real, then that would be the biggest
Speaker 5: tourist attraction of all time. I want to go see
Speaker 5: the dome, dude, I want to go see the ferm.
Speaker 5: Show me like they would have boats going out there,
Speaker 5: they would have fucking plane, hot air balloons, you can
Speaker 5: go touch it, Like why are there not? If we're
Speaker 5: if our world is dominated by this consumer capitalist economy,
Speaker 5: that would be the number one thing to go see.
Speaker 7: That would be a trillion dollar a year industry to
Speaker 7: get a hot air balloon to go up and touch
Speaker 7: the dome.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Hey, I'll tell you what though, as far as
Speaker 3: the firmament, what do you think is actually what do
Speaker 3: you think that they were trying to uh like describe
Speaker 3: whenever they're talking about the firmament. I've heard people say
Speaker 3: that could the firmament be like the skull or like
Speaker 3: the cranium or something along those lines, protecting the waters
Speaker 3: from the waters or dividing the waters from the waters,
Speaker 3: And like, from an esoteric standpoint, what do you think
Speaker 3: that is.
Speaker 5: That that's the filter that I'm talking about? Like, so
Speaker 5: so if you think of the like in the broader sense,
Speaker 5: because they were talking about like the atmosphere if we
Speaker 5: would call it something today, right, But the atmosphere has layers,
Speaker 5: and the layers were getting filtered out, like the magnetosphere
Speaker 5: filters out most of the stuff that would kill us, right,
Speaker 5: and then you have successive layers all the way down
Speaker 5: that make the planet run, like the ono sphere, the atmosphere,
Speaker 5: all this stuff. That was just one thing They're not
Speaker 5: gonna like in the Bible. It's not gonna say, well,
Speaker 5: the magnetosphere separated the heavens from the Earth. You know,
Speaker 5: it's not like we have that's our word for that
Speaker 5: like in an esoteric sense, like you're talking about something
Speaker 5: that allows life to be possible down here, and that
Speaker 5: is that for me is the atmosphere. But also like
Speaker 5: to what you're saying there, the skull that separates the
Speaker 5: waters from the waters. That's also it's as above cellblow
Speaker 5: concept here, like it's the same thing we're still filtering
Speaker 5: out most of the stuff with the with our bodies right,
Speaker 5: the skin, the bones, everything, the senses are the only
Speaker 5: thing that allow things in. Everything else is keeping things out.
Speaker 5: So that I would also consider that eight fernament if
Speaker 5: you're else, if you're gonna go esoteric with it. But
Speaker 5: in terms of what they were talking about, that seems
Speaker 5: to me is like the bulk of it is the
Speaker 5: atmosphere as we know it today.
Speaker 7: The atmosphere of Van Allen radiation belt or something along those
Speaker 7: lines that like your boy in three thousand BC didn't
Speaker 7: exactly have the wording to describe, yeah.
Speaker 5: Exactly, And that's all one thing. It's not separated. It's
Speaker 5: just like that thing that was that's keeping us here
Speaker 5: is called the.
Speaker 3: Fernament's it's just another you know, like a layer almost.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: You know what's interesting is is that you know, I
Speaker 3: and I always talk about this, like the studies over
Speaker 3: at DMT X, and basically they were able to find
Speaker 3: that that like, whenever you do d MT, it turns
Speaker 3: off your default mode network, and which is essentially your
Speaker 3: brains filter to experience what you do experience. And so essentially,
Speaker 3: like you know, you're you're getting a filtered experience whenever
Speaker 3: you're living in this reality. And I think that that's
Speaker 3: why you experience so much whenever you're on psychedelics, because
Speaker 3: it completely turns that off and there is no more filter,
Speaker 3: so you just fucking see in everything, right, and and man,
Speaker 3: it's just so fascinating. So you know, I always like
Speaker 3: to say that I think that, uh, existing as a
Speaker 3: human is more of a trip than existing within psychedelics.
Speaker 5: The the amigdala is a good another thing that gets
Speaker 5: shut down, and that's your fight or flight, your fear response.
Speaker 5: So that that's kind of like the first thing that
Speaker 5: keeps you here, right, it's the survival mechanism. And you
Speaker 5: when you when you lower the importance of that, you
Speaker 5: start to pay attention to everything else. You know, so
Speaker 5: you have prefrontal, you have amigdala and everything default mode
Speaker 5: are all like modulated, so everything else gets enhanced. It's
Speaker 5: like losing your sight and all your other senses get
Speaker 5: enhanced with the brain. So that's my My biggest thing
Speaker 5: was the because the what I was telling about Comombo
Speaker 5: the temple where the they removed the fear from you.
Speaker 5: That is kind of like a gateway into the higher
Speaker 5: levels if you have fear in your heart. That was
Speaker 5: like a major teaching in Egypt. If you have fear,
Speaker 5: you can't they won't let you in. You have to
Speaker 5: train to become fear less so that you can you
Speaker 5: can see that you can experience death before you die.
Speaker 3: That's what it is, dude, one hundred percent dud. Did
Speaker 3: you know that they say do not fear or fear
Speaker 3: not three hundred and sixty five times throughout the Bible,
Speaker 3: like one for each day.
Speaker 5: Oh way, yeah, I can believe that.
Speaker 7: But then also to your point about the losing of
Speaker 7: the fear, multiple cultures throughout the Earth have had a
Speaker 7: for lack of better words, it's called a coming of age,
Speaker 7: its ritual.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and I'm using this for example.
Speaker 7: I forget which Native American tribe it was, but basically,
Speaker 7: when a young boy would become of age, and I'd
Speaker 7: be lying I told you what actual year age it was.
Speaker 7: He would go into the woods blindfolded and he would
Speaker 7: have to sit there all night long. Yeah, and he
Speaker 7: could not remove his blindfold. He would just have to
Speaker 7: sit there and deal with whatever the situation was. When
Speaker 7: the sun rose, he was able to take off his blindfold,
Speaker 7: and if he didn't freak out and run off through
Speaker 7: the woods and take his blindfold off early, he passed
Speaker 7: the test. When he would wake up or when he
Speaker 7: would take the blindfold off every time he would open
Speaker 7: his eyes and realize his father had been sitting across
Speaker 7: from him the entire night. It was never about putting
Speaker 7: him in danger. It was about getting the fear out
Speaker 7: of him.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was your well, the drowning test, that was
Speaker 5: the same thing. Like, there's rich for the most important positions.
Speaker 5: There's rituals because you have to. But like we don't.
Speaker 7: Saying that you're about that shit and actually when push
Speaker 7: comes a shove, being about that shit.
Speaker 6: These are two different conversations.
Speaker 2: Why there's initiation to everything.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's what immersion therapy.
Speaker 10: Yeah, no doubt, that's what immersion therapy is.
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's what we call it nowadays is conquering your fears,
Speaker 8: if you have phobias, if you have any type of
Speaker 8: fear not A lot of people don't like to do it.
Speaker 8: It's really not fun, but it actually helps a lot
Speaker 8: when you force yourself to do stuff.
Speaker 6: And in the military we call it trauma bonding. So
Speaker 6: it works out.
Speaker 5: All right, I got a peete, you got one more
Speaker 5: topic that we can talk about. I'll stay for that.
Speaker 5: It'll be five minutes.
Speaker 10: I wanted to ask about the music of the spheres.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that idea.
Speaker 6: You asked that when he comes back.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I wanted to ask about that.
Speaker 8: Because I sat and read all about a thagrum, I
Speaker 8: can never say, yeah, Well, I was actually watching a
Speaker 8: historian and archaeologists that I watched, and they were talking
Speaker 8: about how they're like, we aren't even really sure if
Speaker 8: this dude was real or not, and just kind of
Speaker 8: talking about like how they think a lot of stuff
Speaker 8: got put to his name that actually has nothing to
Speaker 8: do with the guy himself if he was real.
Speaker 7: I saw this clays have as a matter of fact,
Speaker 7: that showed the Pythagoras Pythagora theorem that predates him by
Speaker 7: about eight hundred years.
Speaker 8: Yeah, and then Plato quoting him and stuff like that
Speaker 8: he was one hundreds of years after him and the
Speaker 8: group that he quote.
Speaker 6: Unquote made the number cut, the little.
Speaker 8: Cult that he had, they think that they might have
Speaker 8: like had stuff that they made, and then just people
Speaker 8: kept adding it to his name and just was like,
Speaker 8: you know this, it just is all attached to this
Speaker 8: dude that may or may not have existed.
Speaker 6: We talked about him in his number.
Speaker 7: Quote at one point in time, they you had to
Speaker 7: take a vow of silence for seven years before you
Speaker 7: could even be allowed into the cult.
Speaker 10: There's a lot of weird stuff.
Speaker 8: I was listening to about that, But then I was
Speaker 8: listening to his music theory and.
Speaker 10: Like, because you had said that he is, what is
Speaker 10: that nick.
Speaker 2: Going through to the other side the doors?
Speaker 4: The perception?
Speaker 6: Nice?
Speaker 8: Oh, I was wondering if anybody is actually because I
Speaker 8: was looking at geometry stuff, so I was like, is
Speaker 8: there has anybody actually looked at the Book of Circles.
Speaker 8: It's a new book that just came out that's like
Speaker 8: three hundred pages from four four forty thousand years ago
Speaker 8: till now showing the history about circles.
Speaker 10: Because I was telling him yesterday on the drive.
Speaker 8: There's a lot of scientific information about circles and about
Speaker 8: why we're so obsessed with them. And then I happen
Speaker 8: to find this book and it's it's an interesting book.
Speaker 8: He actually looks into everything he can find about human
Speaker 8: interactions and circles from forty thousand years ago.
Speaker 6: To now, which is interesting. So all right, Ravenly, you
Speaker 6: did have a question for Tyler.
Speaker 2: I did.
Speaker 8: I wanted to know your opinion on the music of
Speaker 8: spears sphears theory, that theory, because.
Speaker 10: You like music and everything.
Speaker 8: So that's what I was honestly thought you were going
Speaker 8: to bring it up, and I was like, hmm, I
Speaker 8: wonder what he thinks about it.
Speaker 5: So that's like, and I go over this in my
Speaker 5: latest book too. That's kind of like a core core
Speaker 5: part of this, I guess mechanical puzzle, like the higher
Speaker 5: levels of directing consciousness. Right, So like if you have
Speaker 5: a you have singularity that's getting distributed out into other
Speaker 5: bands of itself, you have you have to have a
Speaker 5: way to tune.
Speaker 7: In as an outside. When you say singularity is another
Speaker 7: term for that, like a signal.
Speaker 5: No singularity is in like all the all and not universe,
Speaker 5: everything everything, so as everything distributes out into everything else,
Speaker 5: it starts from what But it's a constant process. This
Speaker 5: is where I disagree with science. It's not like a
Speaker 5: we didn't emerge from the one big bang and it
Speaker 5: just does this. I think it's toroidal and we go
Speaker 5: back in and then come back out and then just
Speaker 5: it's this constant thing. That's how all the ancients, you know,
Speaker 5: described it. Right. So the music of the spheres is
Speaker 5: is basically the frequencies of each planet, right, or star
Speaker 5: or or celestial body and frequency meaning orbital or like
Speaker 5: direction vector in space. So so that's like your position, right,
Speaker 5: and then each star, if we're talking about stars, I
Speaker 5: view them as windows gateways through this maze, right, so
Speaker 5: where consciousness can view. It's like like a you know,
Speaker 5: little binocular.
Speaker 6: And including our sun.
Speaker 5: What's up?
Speaker 6: Including our sun?
Speaker 5: Yeah? Correct? Okay, yeah, So that each one of those
Speaker 5: then has has little babies, little planets, little things that
Speaker 5: solidify from itself eventually, you know, and then those those coalesced,
Speaker 5: and then those are like little data points. Those are
Speaker 5: memory things because because all of the history of the
Speaker 5: Earth is stored in the matter of the Earth, right,
Speaker 5: like in the crystals and in the physical material of
Speaker 5: that Earth or planet. So the the music of the
Speaker 5: spheres or harmony of the spheres as it's referred to,
Speaker 5: that to me seems to be a navigation system in
Speaker 5: terms of space. And then in time, time is frequency, right,
Speaker 5: frequency is how many cycles per second or how many
Speaker 5: cycles per given amount of time that the thing goes through,
Speaker 5: And we only have seconds because our our orbit around
Speaker 5: the Sun can be divided up into a specific Yes.
Speaker 10: I have a question.
Speaker 8: Sorry, I was wondering what does that apply to black holes?
Speaker 8: Because there's three different times like how that I'm just
Speaker 8: listening to you, So I'm wondering, like, because there's time before,
Speaker 8: time in, and time after, and they're all three different
Speaker 8: times and they consistently change.
Speaker 10: How that?
Speaker 5: So I think that's relativity. That's where like you have
Speaker 5: your Einstein stuff coming in there. But I think that
Speaker 5: the black hole scenario in this whole situation are the
Speaker 5: the back end UH infrastructure to to the windows, I
Speaker 5: guess what they are supported with, you know, so like
Speaker 5: as they it makes entanglement work. Black black hole is
Speaker 5: the only thing that could could make entanglement work. All
Speaker 5: the way back to source. So if you have a
Speaker 5: black hole, you have an event horizon where experience is
Speaker 5: projected in all of these stars, different realities, different you know, times,
Speaker 5: different spaces within this entire ecosystem of the all the
Speaker 5: universal mind. You're just basically a neuron in that thing,
Speaker 5: a baby, baby neuron. So the music of the spheres
Speaker 5: is how the universal consciousness tunes into that specific experience.
Speaker 5: If I know what black hole this star is is
Speaker 5: orbiting by in terms of frequency, then I can kind
Speaker 5: of use that as a map as a guide to
Speaker 5: find it. And then once I find it, then that
Speaker 5: frequency from the star gets projected out in terms of
Speaker 5: all the bands that the star is projecting, not just
Speaker 5: visible light. Once that's projected out, then I have a
Speaker 5: window to observe the Solar system or the planets that
Speaker 5: are around it. Right, and then to have an experience,
Speaker 5: I have to root consciousness into that specific form of matter,
Speaker 5: which would be a planet. That is where things get murky.
Speaker 5: And that's why we have all this ancient mysteries is
Speaker 5: because I think they figured out a way to become
Speaker 5: from non human intelligence a non physical form. There is
Speaker 5: a way that they could sculpt planets to make it
Speaker 5: a receiver for consciousness, and the music of the spheres
Speaker 5: is all about timing and how to navigate through that
Speaker 5: network to bring more intelligence to a planet so that
Speaker 5: you can you can evolve a creature that can handle
Speaker 5: more and more consciousness. They just get smarter and stronger
Speaker 5: and better, more capable of surviving for longer periods of
Speaker 5: time to prolong that experience on whatever planets or arena
Speaker 5: that they want to tune into. That's my theory on it.
Speaker 5: I don't know if anyone's ever communicated that.
Speaker 2: But that's solid.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that makes a lot of sense, especially whenever you're
Speaker 3: looking like like not to get too like lame or whatever,
Speaker 3: but like astrology and how people just like don't pay
Speaker 3: Some people just like, oh, that's just stupid. It doesn't
Speaker 3: make any sense, and that can apply to anybody. And
Speaker 3: I'm like, dude, I mean, the planets were exactly aligned
Speaker 3: the moment that you were born, and you think that
Speaker 3: that has no effect on how you were sent here,
Speaker 3: whatever consciousness that you have or whatever. You know, it
Speaker 3: seems like a perfect little bridge of consciousness down to
Speaker 3: a body.
Speaker 5: I think they the best thing I ever heard on
Speaker 5: the top the astrology topic was, like, the watches have
Speaker 5: planetary gears, right, because they're based off of timing of
Speaker 5: our solar system. The gears on a on a watch
Speaker 5: are timed celestially so that you can tell time.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 5: If one of those gears is off, then your time
Speaker 5: is off and you can't function in modern society if
Speaker 5: your time is off. So if one of those gears
Speaker 5: and your watch is off, and it makes that big
Speaker 5: of an impact on how you would go about things.
Speaker 5: How if one of the planets is off, then you're
Speaker 5: then everything is synchronistically timed the same way it is
Speaker 5: with a watch. If one of those things is off,
Speaker 5: then you aren't you. That's a different you. It's a
Speaker 5: different you in a different timeline. So this is it
Speaker 5: has to kind of be somewhat like that. The accuracy
Speaker 5: not sure, but like I think that three thousand year
Speaker 5: old or older science should be taken seriously in modern days.
Speaker 6: For sure.
Speaker 9: Intelligent design, in my opinion, you have no doubt. Yeah,
Speaker 9: that alone shows intelligent design.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's my only issue with the astrology conversation.
Speaker 6: I'm not denying that.
Speaker 7: However, the planets were lined up on the moment that
Speaker 7: you actually entered the Earth, or for that matter, the
Speaker 7: instant that you were conceived didn't have some sort of
Speaker 7: a chain reaction.
Speaker 6: Onto your life.
Speaker 7: What I'm saying is that most people that are looking
Speaker 7: at their zodiac are looking at a map that is
Speaker 7: off by a lot, because if you actually look at
Speaker 7: what consolation was on the horizon on the day of
Speaker 7: your birth, Like I'm technically a Leo, but in actuality,
Speaker 7: the constellation that was on the horizon on the day
Speaker 7: of my birth, if not mistaken, was fucking Taurus. So
Speaker 7: people are using outdated calendar well, and they're using that
Speaker 7: as like a personality trick, and it's that's where it
Speaker 7: kind of gets to the rest.
Speaker 3: To me, there's many different types of astrology. You know,
Speaker 3: you have your tropical which is the one that most
Speaker 3: people in the West are very accustomed to and Vedic,
Speaker 3: but what is the one that I'm thinking of Siberia
Speaker 3: sidereal right, which sideial? To me, it makes a little
Speaker 3: bit more sense, But to be honest, they kind of
Speaker 3: both make sense. And maybe it's more of an internal
Speaker 3: world versus an external world. I don't fucking know what's
Speaker 3: going on with all that, but it's like, you know,
Speaker 3: in tropical I'm a Taurus in sidereal, I'm an ares,
Speaker 3: you know, so what do you do?
Speaker 7: Sideial makes more sense to me because it is what
Speaker 7: is happening right now, not what the Greeks wrote down,
Speaker 7: that we're still applying to our lives today, that this,
Speaker 7: at least in that conversation, that one makes the most
Speaker 7: sense to me.
Speaker 2: I agree, Yeah, I feel that too.
Speaker 4: I got one quick go ahead.
Speaker 5: I think that are you guys familiar with human design? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: that's I think that's a far more accurative thing to
Speaker 5: use than I mean, I take everything into account, Like
Speaker 5: some days I'll check and see if the you know,
Speaker 5: co star says something accurate about me, But like I
Speaker 5: don't base my entire life off of it. But my
Speaker 5: human design thing is is scary accurate, like it is
Speaker 5: on point with with my ship.
Speaker 6: I don't I don't know human design. Quickly break that
Speaker 6: one down for me.
Speaker 5: So it's basically the it's an extension kind of of
Speaker 5: the the zodiac sciences, right, but it's based on on
Speaker 5: the meridians of your of your body, so like at
Speaker 5: the time of birth. I don't know how they calculate this,
Speaker 5: Like I was trying to when I went to Egypt.
Speaker 5: There was this girl that was there, she was an
Speaker 5: expert in and she was explained it to me. I
Speaker 5: was like, I gotta look at this later because it
Speaker 5: makes sense. But and then she started describing my stuff
Speaker 5: and I was like, shut the fuck up. But it's
Speaker 5: how like it's how it's how your body handles. If
Speaker 5: you think of a constant stream of consciousness, right, there's
Speaker 5: gonna be dams, and then there's gonna be areas where
Speaker 5: it flows a lot more fluidly, right, and those are
Speaker 5: those are in your physical body, so it's it's very
Speaker 5: hard to change those, right. So what what's human design
Speaker 5: is is is basically it works with what you're naturally
Speaker 5: good at. It finds what you're naturally good at, where
Speaker 5: your energy is supposed to go, and then kind of
Speaker 5: gives you a blueprint on how to optimize your life
Speaker 5: because of that. It's not like, you know, mercury is
Speaker 5: in retrograde, so you're gonna cry today, That's not It's
Speaker 5: more of like a practice.
Speaker 6: Those people crack me up, dude.
Speaker 5: It's more like like you're you have a propensity to
Speaker 5: like stay up until for because you're really interested in
Speaker 5: like brain stuff, So like go with that, you know,
Speaker 5: That's what it was saying on mine is is like
Speaker 5: I have a lot of energy for stuff that like
Speaker 5: stimulates me mentally, and and I'm good at like translating that.
Speaker 5: So that was after I did all this too, So
Speaker 5: I'm like, yep, pretty dead on, but look into it.
Speaker 5: It's it's really really interesting stuff.
Speaker 2: Okay for sure.
Speaker 9: I had one quick wrap up question, and so I
Speaker 9: think you would probably agree that we're coming to some
Speaker 9: sort of inflection point, all all these archaeological discoveries, all
Speaker 9: these knowledge coming in, having these kinds of conversations.
Speaker 4: Where do you see all of this going in the.
Speaker 9: Near future as far as like consciousness, society and like
Speaker 9: where does it?
Speaker 4: Where does this go interesting?
Speaker 5: But I think so like in the bigger picture, you know,
Speaker 5: we're on the we're on the dying age of Pisces,
Speaker 5: and there's a lot of and even as a kid,
Speaker 5: I was like, man, as soon as he's like old
Speaker 5: people die, like, it's gonna be a lot better here.
Speaker 5: And I don't want to be like all gloom and
Speaker 5: doom about that because because there's like a really big
Speaker 5: generational shift. I guess you could say, like there's there's
Speaker 5: wildly different viewpoints between us and people that are you know,
Speaker 5: thirty to four years older than us. Because there's a
Speaker 5: really dominant theme of pisces, a dualut dualistic theme, and
Speaker 5: I really think you just have to log onto Facebook
Speaker 5: to discover that. But once, I think, once we refine
Speaker 5: the systems here and then that means like political, financial, digital,
Speaker 5: all of these things that are emerging that have huge
Speaker 5: problems that need solving, if we can do that in
Speaker 5: such a way that that decentralizes things and makes things
Speaker 5: more you know, uh, like less focused on one person
Speaker 5: or one organization or one one country to handle all
Speaker 5: of this stuff. And I think that's the theme of
Speaker 5: maybe gen X down Like that's kind of like the crossover. Uh.
Speaker 5: I think once those once there's more of an activation
Speaker 5: in those people, then we can accelerate that process in
Speaker 5: a non violent way. That's like my ethos on all
Speaker 5: of this is, you know, I guess a peaceful transition
Speaker 5: of power you could say, like in terms of generations.
Speaker 5: But but that requires a mass on a scale that's
Speaker 5: like on a mad like to anybody, a mass awakening,
Speaker 5: I guess you could say, or injection of new ideas
Speaker 5: that are focused on consciousness and focused on on the
Speaker 5: you know, I'm no different than you were all connected,
Speaker 5: like you're We're all just different versions of of ourselves,
Speaker 5: you know, and getting that world viewing that paradigm out
Speaker 5: there is going to take a lot of fucking work.
Speaker 5: And what what my goal was with the with the
Speaker 5: base Forge page was to to kind of ease that
Speaker 5: transition in a way where I'm talking about some really
Speaker 5: heavy shit, but I've got some Loafi in the background
Speaker 5: and I'm making you laugh. Like there needs to be
Speaker 5: there needs to be more people that can talk about
Speaker 5: this stuff. And I would say, like Rogan and a
Speaker 5: whole bunch of people have really opened the door to
Speaker 5: free speech on esoteric stuff or on ancient history, and
Speaker 5: that it needs to get broadcasts into the spotlight in
Speaker 5: a way, in a very rapid way, so that people
Speaker 5: are are like, oh, okay, this is actually real. Like
Speaker 5: even the even the people in Egypt do not know
Speaker 5: a lot of stuff about their country, you know, like
Speaker 5: the traditional like a normal citizen does not know what
Speaker 5: we are talking about right now about their own country.
Speaker 5: A lot of them and it's obviously the government's kind
Speaker 5: of corrupt and there's issues. But to solve those things,
Speaker 5: we have to shift the collective mindset from a material
Speaker 5: consumer paradigm to a spiritual, experiential paradigm. And that is
Speaker 5: my main my viewpoint on it is make it so
Speaker 5: make this stuff so interesting and so much more entertaining.
Speaker 5: Make EDM the lifestyle kind of like going to a
Speaker 5: festival and only caring about what's going on at that festival,
Speaker 5: or only caring about what your friends are doing and
Speaker 5: what the song is playing, and like you're just being
Speaker 5: in the moment. That has to be so much more
Speaker 5: attractive than buying a new iPhone. That that's when this
Speaker 5: shift will happen. And I think we're on a good
Speaker 5: track for it. I think a I can help as
Speaker 5: long as we are very rational about it and we
Speaker 5: have good people in leadership. But again, that's that's.
Speaker 7: Kind of a big lynch pin right there, the good
Speaker 7: people in leadership. I have pretty much given up hope
Speaker 7: on humanity at this point. To be honest with your brother,
Speaker 7: that'sh just me.
Speaker 5: It's hard. It's hard to keep hope. I'll say that.
Speaker 5: But that there's a there's a sliver, there's a small
Speaker 5: sliver and if we nail it could be.
Speaker 9: Okay, but ultimately you would need the data world stood still.
Speaker 9: Quote only at the precipice do.
Speaker 4: We find the will to change. Yep, And I think that's.
Speaker 6: It, dude, hopefully.
Speaker 3: I think you need, like certain older programs to kind
Speaker 3: of crumble in order to bring something new in any way,
Speaker 3: you know. I think that, like you know, and this
Speaker 3: is what bothers me, and I feel like it's almost
Speaker 3: a hindrance and it holds people back from wanting to
Speaker 3: research and understand things to a deeper level. Was whenever
Speaker 3: you start saying that this is evil or that is evil,
Speaker 3: whenever it's like, dude, this is just like symbolism, Like
Speaker 3: why why are we calling it the baphomet?
Speaker 2: What I'm saying it makes no fucking sense.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's trace it back to its its geometric origins
Speaker 5: and you'll find that it's all altruistic. There's no there's
Speaker 5: no good or bad about it. They have to both
Speaker 5: be here to exist, like both of them. You need
Speaker 5: shadows and light to have this dualistic world that we
Speaker 5: live in, and all that evolves from light and shadows,
Speaker 5: light and dark.
Speaker 3: Good and evil principle polarity. Yeah, yeah, dude, fun man.
Speaker 8: Okay, I disagree, but I'm not gonna I disagree with
Speaker 8: some of the statements that he made because I don't
Speaker 8: believe that. I believe the old generation actually has more
Speaker 8: value than what we're giving them, and that Rogan is
Speaker 8: technically like thirty years older than us, and he actually
Speaker 8: is having value. They are actually changing more than they
Speaker 8: ever have in their mindsets and coming to terms with
Speaker 8: more of the future, I.
Speaker 10: Guess, of ways.
Speaker 8: And I would argue to say that Gen X is
Speaker 8: the most selfish ones out of all of the all
Speaker 8: of the you know boomers and everyone else. That boomers
Speaker 8: have their own set of problems, they have their own,
Speaker 8: you know biases.
Speaker 10: We have our own biases as millennials. Gen X has.
Speaker 8: Theirs, and that I think that we are not valuing
Speaker 8: what they actually stood for. Is they were more They Yes,
Speaker 8: they had racism and had issues and segregation and stuff
Speaker 8: like that, but if you talk to a lot of them,
Speaker 8: they actually didn't have issues, a lot of them growing
Speaker 8: up with each other, and that they pushed for change,
Speaker 8: and that they've been pushing for change and they still
Speaker 8: hold value in our society, whereas Gen X is all
Speaker 8: about consumerism. That they were raised in it from the
Speaker 8: time that you know, from go and they know nothing
Speaker 8: but consumerism, and they are very much easily swede. They
Speaker 8: don't want to do their own research. They don't want
Speaker 8: to actually take the time to learn things. If TikTok
Speaker 8: showed them, then that's what they want to do, and
Speaker 8: if it's a trend, that's what they want to do.
Speaker 8: And I have no hate for Gen X, but I'm
Speaker 8: just simply saying that like to disvalue the older generations
Speaker 8: because they seem to be more staunched in their ways.
Speaker 8: They also have a lot more experience in life and
Speaker 8: have gone through other things that we have not. So personally,
Speaker 8: I just disagree that even if we are shifting into
Speaker 8: a new era, we should shift in with the mindset
Speaker 8: of listening to what they've been through, taking what we've
Speaker 8: been through, and then finding a better way for the
Speaker 8: next generation to work together instead of having this smilarity
Speaker 8: mindset of MEMI, MEMI me, and what can I do
Speaker 8: for me?
Speaker 10: How can I better myself? Period?
Speaker 8: And they don't really have camaraderie. They don't care about
Speaker 8: each other as much. They will on you know, if
Speaker 8: it will get them likes, they'll do it. If they
Speaker 8: can go viral, they'll do it.
Speaker 6: Their sense of community is completely different.
Speaker 7: Their community is in their city, it's their online community.
Speaker 8: Yeah, they have no sense of community as in where
Speaker 8: the older generations they knew all of their neighbors. They
Speaker 8: know each other, They helped each other out, they would
Speaker 8: bake each other's goods. They would, you know, welcome each
Speaker 8: other into the neighborhood. I grew up with old people
Speaker 8: in nursing homes. I have a deep love for the
Speaker 8: elder generation. I always will. And I think that there
Speaker 8: is a lot of misvalue because of political people, you know,
Speaker 8: political ideologies between groups and stuff like that. But I
Speaker 8: have met so many when I had colored hair that
Speaker 8: they were the nicest ones. They would come up to
Speaker 8: me and be the sweetest ones, and I love your hair.
Speaker 8: It was more or less you know gen X that
Speaker 8: would actually and not gen excuse me, millennials that seem
Speaker 8: to be the older millennials that seem to be having
Speaker 8: more of an issue with my hair color than it
Speaker 8: would be the boomers and stuff.
Speaker 7: There also seems to be another shift going on where
Speaker 7: people are actually embracing tradition and leaving modernity behind, and
Speaker 7: not just in the whole self sufficient farming that seems
Speaker 7: to be popping off in so many regards, But there
Speaker 7: are so many people that are trying to get more
Speaker 7: of a feel towards their families, traditions from their grandparents,
Speaker 7: their great grandparents, and things like that. So, as to
Speaker 7: your point, Tyler, we have this surge of people that
Speaker 7: are trying to get more involved in the modern era,
Speaker 7: we also have this crazy surge of people that are
Speaker 7: trying to get more in touch with their past. We
Speaker 7: are in very wild times that we have found ourselves in.
Speaker 7: I think, wilder times than probably ever before in human history.
Speaker 3: I mean there's crows and cons to every generation. I
Speaker 3: think sure, And I think that you know maybe what Tyler,
Speaker 3: and I don't want to speak for you, but I
Speaker 3: feel like as far as just the open mindedness is
Speaker 3: advancing at a more rapid pace with every newer generation,
Speaker 3: right totally.
Speaker 5: And I agree everything you just said there I one
Speaker 5: hundred percent agree with. I was more talking about these
Speaker 5: systems that we're cleaning onto, I guess, because like.
Speaker 10: If you can you give me an example of what
Speaker 10: you mean.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Like I have a an uncle he is like
Speaker 5: a bunch of farmland in Kansas, and uh, like I
Speaker 5: have I have some family members that are kind of
Speaker 5: like struggling, you know, and like we're as a collective family,
Speaker 5: we help them. But my uncle he's like way richer
Speaker 5: than all of us. He could sell an acre of
Speaker 5: his land and fix all the problems. But there's a
Speaker 5: lot of cleaning onto this this system of security, like
Speaker 5: it exists anymore, because it kind of doesn't, you know,
Speaker 5: like whether that's political, financial, or or in terms of
Speaker 5: you could drop it down to like the housing level
Speaker 5: or whatever. You know, Like the systems that we're using
Speaker 5: right now are clearly very outdated, and there's some people
Speaker 5: that have a vested interest in keeping those alive because
Speaker 5: they're benefiting from it. That that's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 5: What you can be a gen You could be a
Speaker 5: gen Z and have that situation. So I'm not saying
Speaker 5: it's it's a generation. I'm just saying overall, as a theme,
Speaker 5: we're transitioning out of this this good versus bad into
Speaker 5: the age of information, which is which is Aquarius, and
Speaker 5: and trying to balance those things out is something that
Speaker 5: is going to be the main topic of discussion trying
Speaker 5: to figure out how well, how do we get it
Speaker 5: so that one dude cannot be a fucking trillionaire while
Speaker 5: there's people starving in the same fucking country. You know,
Speaker 5: Like there's the seriously.
Speaker 8: That's been around for all of time though, like I
Speaker 8: mean it literally from agriculture, creation of agriculture on, you
Speaker 8: had someone in charge, people that profited, people that own
Speaker 8: land as they built societal systems. This has been in
Speaker 8: place from the beginning, So don't I don't know how.
Speaker 10: We would as a whole shift because.
Speaker 8: Inherently we are there as leaders and they're followers. That
Speaker 8: is just human traits. So there are going to be
Speaker 8: those that are going to lead the pack. Hey we
Speaker 8: need to plant these crops at these times, Hey we
Speaker 8: need to do this, and that I could understand a
Speaker 8: system where we could try to balance out the power,
Speaker 8: but that is almost damn near impossible. I think in
Speaker 8: almost every culture that I've ever read about, it normally
Speaker 8: collapses quite quickly because inherently people are greedy and they're hungry, hungry.
Speaker 10: I mean, it.
Speaker 8: Would have to take a massive shift of unprecedents to
Speaker 8: even get to that part.
Speaker 7: And that's what he was saying for that type of
Speaker 7: awakening that happened, which that's why it's it is so.
Speaker 6: I would use the term preposterous even.
Speaker 7: To say that that type of mass like to use
Speaker 7: your term awakening, could happen. Brother to me, it seems
Speaker 7: like it's in the realm of impossibility. It's it's one
Speaker 7: of those things that like we want to get high
Speaker 7: on hopium about.
Speaker 5: Yeah, totally, but.
Speaker 6: One bad app would ruin that entire bunch, honestly. Yeah.
Speaker 5: And it's it's again that's why I said it's it's
Speaker 5: like a it's a pipe dream to make it Like
Speaker 5: when I was saying that, I was saying that as
Speaker 5: a peaceful transition of power, like when you when you
Speaker 5: look at any of these civilizations, it was never peaceful.
Speaker 5: Like there's there's no time in history where it's just
Speaker 5: been like, all right, I'm gonna lay down while you
Speaker 5: take over my country. That doesn't happen like and and
Speaker 5: this is now we have a global economy and we're
Speaker 5: interconnected in a way that's like that we've never experienced.
Speaker 5: So that's why I'm saying a shift in global consciousness.
Speaker 5: I don't think we're ever gonna get to zero. We're
Speaker 5: never gonna feed everybody and we're never going to have
Speaker 5: no no greedy people. But what I do think can
Speaker 5: happen and this, this has happened in the in the
Speaker 5: Internet age, Like the look at the rate of people's
Speaker 5: homes getting broken into after ring cameras were installed. It
Speaker 5: like fell off a cliff, you know, just because there's
Speaker 5: five cameras pointing at you. You know, like you can't
Speaker 5: not break into someone's house anymore. So the more we
Speaker 5: do things, but then you have like surveillance, state concerns
Speaker 5: with that as well. All of it has this pro
Speaker 5: and con thing and we're in, like what you were saying,
Speaker 5: the biggest transition in conscious history of how do we
Speaker 5: go about these things? And I think we don't need
Speaker 5: to collapse the old systems. We don't need to get
Speaker 5: rid of of money, We don't need to get rid
Speaker 5: of of politics. We need to refine them. They need
Speaker 5: to be more refined with a conscious lens. Bring back rituals.
Speaker 5: Bring back leaders that had to go through some shit personally,
Speaker 5: had to go through a fucking they had to look
Speaker 5: into the void, to make them look into the void
Speaker 5: before where they lead a country, like like that's what
Speaker 5: I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Hell yeah, Tyler, you are the fucking man.
Speaker 6: Dude.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much for coming to hang out with us.
Speaker 3: We got you a little bit longer than what what
Speaker 3: we expected, so we're appreciative or appreciative of that. So
Speaker 3: if you could, could you, uh, could you tell the
Speaker 3: good cult members of the world where they can find
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Speaker 5: So yeah, I am a baseforde dot us on social
Speaker 5: media and that is also my website www.
Speaker 6: Dot us.
Speaker 5: Uh, I do have I have books and materials on
Speaker 5: all my theories and stuff if you want to dive
Speaker 5: into that physical digital I have a school if you
Speaker 5: want to learn faster. That's really all I have it for.
Speaker 5: And I will be like I said, I'll be going
Speaker 5: pretty hard on YouTube next year for long form. Just
Speaker 5: to kind of clarify this message. So thank you guys
Speaker 5: so much for having me. I love getting into this
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Speaker 5: a conversation, because it rarely happens anymore.
Speaker 6: So thank you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we really appreciate that, dude, fun conversation. Would definitely
Speaker 3: love to do it again at some point in the future.
Speaker 3: I'm yeah, Nicholas, you want to tell the good cult
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