WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.280 --> 00:00:02.120 Baby, I'm a game statue. 2 00:00:02.759 --> 00:00:06.599 It takes a little tangle. You don't mess with me. 3 00:00:06.599 --> 00:00:09.080 Mess with me, baby, I'm a gangstatu. 4 00:00:13.519 --> 00:00:16.359 Puch baby, you're a gangstattoo. 5 00:00:23.800 --> 00:00:26.800 For good warning, This podcast is designed to take you 6 00:00:26.800 --> 00:00:29.839 outside of your comfort zone and make you question reality. 7 00:00:30.239 --> 00:00:37.799 Listening discretion is a vibe. 8 00:00:38.600 --> 00:00:44.640 What the fellas? This ain't my first time at the rodeos. 9 00:00:49.119 --> 00:00:50.200 Where she came. 10 00:00:55.159 --> 00:00:56.079 Yesterday? 11 00:00:56.679 --> 00:01:01.079 Don't matter if it's gone. 12 00:01:04.079 --> 00:01:06.760 While the sun is bright. 13 00:01:08.519 --> 00:01:14.200 In the darkness night, no one knows. 14 00:01:16.040 --> 00:01:32.599 She comes and goes. Good name when you change with 15 00:01:32.840 --> 00:01:34.640 the new day? 16 00:01:35.239 --> 00:01:42.239 Still are we yeah? 17 00:01:42.799 --> 00:01:45.920 Yeah, yeah, I got, I got no oh, there we go. 18 00:01:46.000 --> 00:01:47.480 Stream is live. It just hit on my end. It 19 00:01:47.519 --> 00:01:50.159 was about thirteen second delay. How do you folks? 20 00:01:50.319 --> 00:01:50.560 Uh? 21 00:01:50.719 --> 00:01:53.640 Your host double j Not the vice president host of 22 00:01:53.719 --> 00:01:56.879 Operation g c D with an Operation GCD Invasion of 23 00:01:57.319 --> 00:02:02.439 the Occult Rejects here with the follow ocult reject Julia 24 00:02:02.680 --> 00:02:05.319 from the Cosmic Peach podcast, and of course Neck the 25 00:02:05.359 --> 00:02:06.599 host of the Ocult Rejects. 26 00:02:08.879 --> 00:02:09.479 It's going on. 27 00:02:09.680 --> 00:02:11.719 I can't hear you. No, there you go going on? 28 00:02:11.759 --> 00:02:17.520 Thank you very much, thanks for having me. Guys. 29 00:02:18.599 --> 00:02:21.120 Well this this conversation kind of grew over conversation we 30 00:02:21.159 --> 00:02:22.840 had last week right on the Ocult Rejects. I don't 31 00:02:22.840 --> 00:02:24.000 think it's quite dropped yet. 32 00:02:24.400 --> 00:02:27.680 No, yeah, yeah, it's like a preview. Actually, I think 33 00:02:27.680 --> 00:02:29.840 it will drop next Wednesday or something like that. 34 00:02:30.520 --> 00:02:32.240 I was, you know, let's say, let's go let's go 35 00:02:32.240 --> 00:02:33.879 ahead and tease that episode, because that's gonna be a 36 00:02:33.919 --> 00:02:36.680 good conversation for folks to check out as well. And 37 00:02:36.759 --> 00:02:38.759 if folks of the interwebs are not familiar with Tuesday 38 00:02:38.800 --> 00:02:40.919 Well this this name came up in a conversation last 39 00:02:40.919 --> 00:02:45.919 week about a cult Elvis Tuesday Well. When when Julia 40 00:02:45.960 --> 00:02:48.199 brought it up in the conversation and asked me if 41 00:02:48.240 --> 00:02:50.639 I new Tuesday Well, I simply replied, one of my 42 00:02:50.639 --> 00:02:53.879 favorite people in the entire universe because I love because 43 00:02:53.879 --> 00:02:56.560 I'm pro Tuesday. It was because she's connected to everything 44 00:02:57.400 --> 00:02:57.759 I love. 45 00:02:57.800 --> 00:03:00.800 How you say, not because I'm pro Tuesday. 46 00:03:01.360 --> 00:03:03.439 I'm definitely not for Tuesday. 47 00:03:03.599 --> 00:03:06.919 Yeah, no, me either, me either. But she's somebody that 48 00:03:06.960 --> 00:03:13.719 I've actually I've mentioned several times in previous episodes. I 49 00:03:13.800 --> 00:03:16.199 actually the first time I talked about her on my 50 00:03:16.319 --> 00:03:21.719 show was in twenty twenty two. So is definitely you know, 51 00:03:21.840 --> 00:03:24.400 do for a refresher, just for even people who listen 52 00:03:24.520 --> 00:03:28.560 to my show, because you know, I just assume that 53 00:03:28.680 --> 00:03:31.520 everyone everyone knows about her, because I did do an 54 00:03:31.520 --> 00:03:34.439 episode on her a couple of years ago, but it's 55 00:03:34.479 --> 00:03:36.800 been so long, you know, you'd have to dig through, 56 00:03:38.439 --> 00:03:41.439 you know, hundreds of episodes to get to that one. 57 00:03:41.479 --> 00:03:45.000 So I'm kind of excited to revitalize it today and 58 00:03:45.199 --> 00:03:50.280 make it more well known for people who haven't heard 59 00:03:50.319 --> 00:03:54.479 of her. So we're throwing down on Tuesday on a Monday, 60 00:03:54.759 --> 00:03:56.199 So this is gonna be. 61 00:03:56.400 --> 00:04:00.560 This is gonna be it Monday. Yeah, right, you had 62 00:04:00.560 --> 00:04:02.400 no idea Tuesday. Well, it was when this came up 63 00:04:02.479 --> 00:04:04.719 during that show, right, I mean, you know, I think 64 00:04:04.759 --> 00:04:07.759 Tuesday's done a great job of playing you know, laying beneath. 65 00:04:07.560 --> 00:04:13.039 Flamelow, under the radar the public. 66 00:04:13.120 --> 00:04:13.280 Right. 67 00:04:14.120 --> 00:04:16.480 It was the only time I had ever really heard 68 00:04:16.519 --> 00:04:17.199 about her. 69 00:04:17.879 --> 00:04:18.040 Is that. 70 00:04:18.079 --> 00:04:20.439 I think, like one time Lisa for some reason, and 71 00:04:20.439 --> 00:04:22.800 she can't remember why, she was looking into somehow she 72 00:04:22.879 --> 00:04:26.480 was she was related to Joe Rogan. She had heard somewhere, 73 00:04:27.399 --> 00:04:29.160 So I'm like, yeah, like weird, like you know, who 74 00:04:29.160 --> 00:04:31.040 knows if it's true, But like that was the only 75 00:04:31.120 --> 00:04:32.759 time I really ever heard of Tuesday. Well, that had 76 00:04:32.800 --> 00:04:33.839 no idea who she really is. 77 00:04:33.920 --> 00:04:38.279 Though, if that's true, I'm gonna ship my whole entire pants. 78 00:04:38.720 --> 00:04:40.560 Well, I can't. I can't believe I haven't done Joe 79 00:04:40.639 --> 00:04:42.959 Rogan's family tree yet. That's it's shocking to me. As 80 00:04:43.040 --> 00:04:45.120 much Joe Rogan stuff as I've done. 81 00:04:45.360 --> 00:04:50.759 It wouldn't surprise me. But you know, somebody that I've 82 00:04:50.800 --> 00:04:52.959 worked with a few times, I think Nick has two 83 00:04:53.519 --> 00:04:58.759 is uh Sean McCann. Yes, And he knew so much 84 00:04:58.839 --> 00:05:02.160 about Tuesday and and he and I talked about her together, 85 00:05:02.360 --> 00:05:03.920 and so I just want to give him a quick 86 00:05:03.920 --> 00:05:07.959 shout out because he dropped some stuff into my life 87 00:05:08.000 --> 00:05:10.000 about her that I didn't even know about that I 88 00:05:10.040 --> 00:05:12.639 included in this presentation. So before I get started, I 89 00:05:12.639 --> 00:05:14.279 just want to say shout out to him too, because 90 00:05:14.319 --> 00:05:18.000 he's looked into her and found some really crazy stuff. 91 00:05:18.040 --> 00:05:20.879 But if you've ever seen a picture of her. 92 00:05:20.720 --> 00:05:25.279 But well, man interject real quick, yeah, before we describe 93 00:05:25.319 --> 00:05:27.639 who is Tuesday, Will, how did you just like you're saying, 94 00:05:27.639 --> 00:05:30.240 Sean McCann has done podcasts on this too. Now, I 95 00:05:30.240 --> 00:05:33.199 haven't heard anyone talk about Tuesday well since Adam go rightly, 96 00:05:33.360 --> 00:05:35.720 Sirra two thousand and seven something. 97 00:05:35.800 --> 00:05:40.560 Yeah, so Sean McCann's. 98 00:05:40.160 --> 00:05:42.959 Conversation used to be with her, right, I'm not. 99 00:05:43.000 --> 00:05:47.040 Sure when it dropped into his, you know, periphery for 100 00:05:47.199 --> 00:05:49.399 him to start looking into it. But I found her 101 00:05:50.240 --> 00:05:53.759 looking into Laurel Canyon because she is a big sixties 102 00:05:53.920 --> 00:05:59.519 counterculture person. And then I had mentioned her in passing 103 00:05:59.720 --> 00:06:02.680 to Sean and he was like, oh shit, you know, 104 00:06:02.839 --> 00:06:04.399 I know so much about her, and then we did 105 00:06:04.439 --> 00:06:07.160 an episode on her together. But I'm not sure if 106 00:06:07.199 --> 00:06:09.759 you've ever seen a picture of her, nick, but she 107 00:06:10.439 --> 00:06:18.600 is like the proverbial Madonna, Marilyn Monroe, Jane Mansfield, big 108 00:06:19.079 --> 00:06:25.480 blue eyes, blonde hair, she looks like a Barbie doll essentially, she. 109 00:06:25.560 --> 00:06:28.720 Could, right, she could have been bigger than all those stars, right. 110 00:06:29.160 --> 00:06:33.399 Yes, yes, it seems like she fits that that archetype. Yeah, 111 00:06:33.439 --> 00:06:37.079 there she goes with Jack Nicholson. You'll see her hanging around. 112 00:06:37.160 --> 00:06:40.879 It's like she's everywhere and nowhere at the same time. 113 00:06:41.240 --> 00:06:46.160 You know, she's everywhere for those who know where she is, 114 00:06:47.319 --> 00:06:51.720 but nowhere to people that are familiar with sixties counterculture. 115 00:06:51.720 --> 00:06:54.120 When you look back on it, you're like, oh, like 116 00:06:54.199 --> 00:06:59.120 I said, Jane Mansfield, Marilyn Monroe, whoever, whoever was big 117 00:06:59.240 --> 00:07:02.040 during that time. She's sitting right here next to Jack Nicholson. 118 00:07:02.120 --> 00:07:05.040 It's like, who is this person? If you saw this picture, 119 00:07:05.040 --> 00:07:08.519 you wouldn't even know who she was, but she's everywhere fan. 120 00:07:08.480 --> 00:07:10.319 Girl right right? Right? 121 00:07:10.600 --> 00:07:10.800 Yeah? 122 00:07:12.120 --> 00:07:14.480 So I first this is when they get a movie together. 123 00:07:14.519 --> 00:07:16.680 I think this was nineteen seventy two. They did a 124 00:07:16.720 --> 00:07:19.680 film together, If I'm not mistaken, I don't. I don't 125 00:07:19.680 --> 00:07:20.439 remember which one it was. 126 00:07:20.560 --> 00:07:22.439 I remember which one it was. I think I have 127 00:07:22.560 --> 00:07:23.839 it in my notes for later. 128 00:07:24.000 --> 00:07:27.360 But it's been in Hollywood since she was a little girl, right, 129 00:07:27.439 --> 00:07:29.519 She was about what's seven years old, I believe. 130 00:07:29.279 --> 00:07:32.319 When she started the Yeah, yeah, she was really really young. 131 00:07:33.160 --> 00:07:37.879 And I guess in order to understand why she's significant 132 00:07:38.000 --> 00:07:43.759 in what role she plays in this weird society of 133 00:07:44.040 --> 00:07:47.920 famous people, you kind of almost have to go back 134 00:07:48.000 --> 00:07:51.600 in time and look at her family, right, who are 135 00:07:51.759 --> 00:07:54.680 the Weld's, What where did she come from? Why is 136 00:07:54.720 --> 00:07:55.399 she's special? 137 00:07:56.399 --> 00:07:56.560 You know? 138 00:07:56.839 --> 00:08:03.319 Xyz? And it turns out actually that the Weld family 139 00:08:03.680 --> 00:08:08.439 is really really old family. They came over on the 140 00:08:08.560 --> 00:08:13.879 Mayflower type shit, you know, one of the very first families. 141 00:08:14.439 --> 00:08:19.120 They came to America in the sixteen hundreds from England, 142 00:08:20.000 --> 00:08:24.240 and the Weld family is actually an extended family of 143 00:08:24.399 --> 00:08:30.120 the Boston Brahmin family. The name Brahmin might sound familiar 144 00:08:30.639 --> 00:08:34.279 to people who are listening to this. Brahmin is kind 145 00:08:34.320 --> 00:08:37.120 of like one of those really old families that kind 146 00:08:37.159 --> 00:08:41.639 of run everything. They're like the Boston elite, if you will, 147 00:08:41.679 --> 00:08:44.679 the Brahmin family. So the Welds are an extension of 148 00:08:44.799 --> 00:08:48.720 the Boston Brahmins, and the Welds are actually the ones 149 00:08:48.759 --> 00:08:55.919 who helped start Harvard University as a gift they were 150 00:08:56.159 --> 00:09:02.919 given by the royal family. The Weld family was given Roxbury, Massachusetts, 151 00:09:03.600 --> 00:09:10.360 and like, uh, Jamaica plane, it's all weld Land and yeah, 152 00:09:10.480 --> 00:09:14.240 basically so you got this weird Boston kind of with 153 00:09:14.360 --> 00:09:18.960 the Brahmans, but also like most of Massachusetts has turned 154 00:09:19.159 --> 00:09:20.559 to like weld land. 155 00:09:21.320 --> 00:09:23.600 Sure, and they started that all on a mound there 156 00:09:23.679 --> 00:09:26.080 in Jamaica plane called Nights at Hill. 157 00:09:26.799 --> 00:09:30.360 Yeah, freaking mound builder weirdness, right. 158 00:09:31.399 --> 00:09:34.879 So shentions to the Society of Cincinnati. 159 00:09:37.840 --> 00:09:41.440 Well, she's related to the governor of Massachusetts, which was 160 00:09:41.519 --> 00:09:46.799 William Weld and if you go all the way back 161 00:09:46.840 --> 00:09:50.039 in time, right, the thirteen hundreds is the earliest recorded 162 00:09:50.120 --> 00:09:53.799 members of the Weld family. They're all like sheriffs in London. 163 00:09:55.519 --> 00:09:59.799 Some of them are knights, uh shit like that. 164 00:10:00.480 --> 00:10:03.720 And then they started some old school Celtic stuff though, right, 165 00:10:03.840 --> 00:10:05.480 like the ancient king Zatara, right. 166 00:10:05.519 --> 00:10:09.639 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. So I think they were 167 00:10:10.480 --> 00:10:12.240 I don't know if it was in the thirteen hundreds 168 00:10:12.320 --> 00:10:14.360 or when they came over on the Mayflower, but they 169 00:10:14.440 --> 00:10:18.480 were Protestant. But after they got over here they sort 170 00:10:18.519 --> 00:10:22.879 of kind of like integrated their power into religiosity, and 171 00:10:23.039 --> 00:10:28.960 a lot of them converted to Catholicism and became like 172 00:10:29.159 --> 00:10:34.840 Jesuit priests. So there's so many layers to this. And 173 00:10:35.039 --> 00:10:40.039 actually John B. Weld and Alfred Weld to be specific, 174 00:10:40.799 --> 00:10:43.440 they were Jesuit priests, and Alfred was known to be 175 00:10:44.360 --> 00:10:48.480 a Jesuit priest, an astronomer, and the administrator for the 176 00:10:48.679 --> 00:10:53.840 Society of Jesus. So it's like I said, it's like, 177 00:10:54.159 --> 00:10:55.200 if you go even all. 178 00:10:55.080 --> 00:10:58.200 The way back, there an administrator there that wasn't even 179 00:10:58.360 --> 00:11:01.159 just a member. He's like, I'm I'm not just a member, 180 00:11:01.200 --> 00:11:02.919 I'm the president, right. 181 00:11:03.080 --> 00:11:10.360 Yeah, it's like sheriffs, knights, Jesuit priests, administrators for the 182 00:11:10.559 --> 00:11:16.240 Society of Jesus. You've got astronomers, Boston elite, the Brahmin family. 183 00:11:16.360 --> 00:11:20.759 I mean, the Welds are nuts. You got governors. They 184 00:11:20.960 --> 00:11:22.759 own most of Massachusetts. 185 00:11:23.440 --> 00:11:26.480 Yeah, from there the infamous incident between Bill Weld and 186 00:11:26.559 --> 00:11:30.440 Whitey Bulger's brother the government. You point it out, so 187 00:11:31.200 --> 00:11:34.240 that is a cousin of hers. He also descends from 188 00:11:34.240 --> 00:11:37.639 Eliza Weld. So Eliza Weld was a colonel in the Revolution. 189 00:11:38.360 --> 00:11:41.799 They're on the Weld Mound there in Jamaica Plains. In 190 00:11:41.879 --> 00:11:44.960 fact that the weld manor there on Weld Hill served 191 00:11:44.960 --> 00:11:49.120 as an operations headquarters for the Massachusetts contingent of the Revolution. 192 00:11:49.799 --> 00:11:52.879 So they're very very integral, very integral. That was basically 193 00:11:53.360 --> 00:11:55.519 you know headquarters, you know, operations. 194 00:11:55.120 --> 00:11:59.720 Center right there, founding fathers and stuff like. 195 00:11:59.799 --> 00:12:03.039 The damn near like yeah, close to it. Within the 196 00:12:03.240 --> 00:12:03.759 leubled Down. 197 00:12:04.559 --> 00:12:04.840 Wow. 198 00:12:05.759 --> 00:12:08.120 Because as far as mass She's is concerned, I mean, 199 00:12:08.159 --> 00:12:11.039 they're they were a major again, as you pointed out 200 00:12:11.080 --> 00:12:13.320 that they were the religious heads with a starting Harvard 201 00:12:13.360 --> 00:12:16.279 because that started as a religious school, and then they 202 00:12:16.279 --> 00:12:19.000 were the military heads because they weren't generals, but you know, 203 00:12:19.279 --> 00:12:22.000 they're the ones that ran their house was run, you know, 204 00:12:22.000 --> 00:12:23.919 they run everything out of their house, you know, and 205 00:12:24.000 --> 00:12:26.679 whatever that mound was they operated. The rest of their 206 00:12:26.720 --> 00:12:28.480 friends all thought it was important for some reason. 207 00:12:29.000 --> 00:12:31.039 Well, of course, it goes all the way back to 208 00:12:31.960 --> 00:12:34.799 ancient history, doesn't it, with the mound builders and all 209 00:12:34.840 --> 00:12:35.000 of that. 210 00:12:35.720 --> 00:12:37.919 Well, I mean even within that family, probably even you know, 211 00:12:38.480 --> 00:12:40.879 maybe even a different track, because I believe those ancient 212 00:12:40.960 --> 00:12:43.039 kings of Tar or they claimed to be descended from, 213 00:12:43.240 --> 00:12:45.399 they used to be crowned on a mound over there 214 00:12:45.480 --> 00:12:46.039 right the hill. 215 00:12:47.039 --> 00:12:50.600 Yeah, and wasn't like Jembel Island supposed to be there 216 00:12:50.679 --> 00:12:53.559 was something built on a mound or am I making 217 00:12:53.600 --> 00:12:53.960 it up? 218 00:12:54.600 --> 00:12:59.120 Okay? The Rockefellers another society family out of society, Cincinnati 219 00:12:59.240 --> 00:13:02.679 family out of New York, the New York chapter they owned, 220 00:13:02.799 --> 00:13:05.919 they owned the uh, the Indian Mound Cottage down there 221 00:13:05.919 --> 00:13:08.320 where the secret meetings were held for the rituals. 222 00:13:08.320 --> 00:13:09.799 That's what I thought. That's what I thought. 223 00:13:09.919 --> 00:13:11.600 Well, just form of the magic that we call the 224 00:13:11.639 --> 00:13:18.120 Federal Reserve. It's definitely it's always mound stuff with these people. 225 00:13:18.799 --> 00:13:20.559 And that's what I'm saying, like I was gonna call 226 00:13:20.559 --> 00:13:21.960 it the hillcam War, but I'm like, no, no, that 227 00:13:22.080 --> 00:13:24.159 I'm thinking in my head, that's that's Mormon stuff. That's 228 00:13:24.240 --> 00:13:27.399 Mormon stuff. The Hill, the Hill Tara is the is 229 00:13:27.440 --> 00:13:29.480 the Ancient is a place over there in Ireland where 230 00:13:29.519 --> 00:13:34.600 they the old ancient kings of ancient Celtic kings used 231 00:13:34.639 --> 00:13:37.480 to you know, the heather coronations, rituals and ceremonies. So 232 00:13:38.000 --> 00:13:40.039 that's who the world's claimed to be descended from. 233 00:13:40.840 --> 00:13:44.320 That's so nuts to me because it's like they have 234 00:13:44.480 --> 00:13:48.720 little pockets everywhere. It's not just in America obviously, because 235 00:13:50.200 --> 00:13:54.360 there's members of the family like Sir Frank Weld he 236 00:13:54.559 --> 00:13:59.759 was the Prime Minister of New Zealand and also the 237 00:14:00.000 --> 00:14:05.799 Governor of Western Australia. And then like Thomas Weld, he 238 00:14:06.000 --> 00:14:08.240 was one of the ones who helped create Harvard and 239 00:14:08.360 --> 00:14:11.919 he was a personal friend of King George the Third. 240 00:14:12.720 --> 00:14:17.159 Typical, they're very Anglo focused family. They seem to be 241 00:14:17.200 --> 00:14:20.480 still to this day, and they're having this Anglo American influence, 242 00:14:20.519 --> 00:14:23.600 you know, this this British influence on America. And speaking 243 00:14:23.639 --> 00:14:25.960 of that, speaking of that, back to Bill Weld, right, 244 00:14:26.039 --> 00:14:27.799 Wright took us off on the standard of there, Julia. 245 00:14:28.039 --> 00:14:30.200 So Bill Weld was the governor, as you pointed out, 246 00:14:30.799 --> 00:14:34.840 Tuesday's cousin, and Whitey Bulger's brother was the President of 247 00:14:34.879 --> 00:14:38.360 the State Senate, Bill Bill Bulger. So I'm not sure 248 00:14:38.399 --> 00:14:40.039 if I'm sure either of you were aware of that, 249 00:14:40.159 --> 00:14:43.440 that the infamous gangster Whitey Bulger, while he's being a gangster, 250 00:14:43.559 --> 00:14:45.720 his brother's the president of the State Senate in the 251 00:14:45.759 --> 00:14:46.759 same city of Boston. 252 00:14:46.799 --> 00:14:52.759 There, figure right, you have to somebody on both sides exactly, And. 253 00:14:52.799 --> 00:14:55.320 Well they're running the same operations, just from different roubles. 254 00:14:56.120 --> 00:14:59.720 So Bill Weld and Bill Bolger getting an infamous dispute. 255 00:15:00.480 --> 00:15:02.000 Maybe too much of a New England or to even 256 00:15:02.039 --> 00:15:04.200 know this story, but they get an into infamous dispute 257 00:15:04.279 --> 00:15:07.399 on the floor of the State House and they're in Boston, 258 00:15:08.080 --> 00:15:11.039 and Boulger's roasting Weld saying like, you know, oh my 259 00:15:11.159 --> 00:15:13.120 family has been here since blah blah blah blah blah, 260 00:15:13.960 --> 00:15:16.879 and welds and well, you know, watches them, you know, 261 00:15:17.399 --> 00:15:19.759 in his little temper tantrum in front of the entire 262 00:15:19.799 --> 00:15:22.519 again the joint session, and he's the governor there at 263 00:15:22.559 --> 00:15:24.600 the State House, you know Bill Bolger's house. He's running 264 00:15:24.600 --> 00:15:27.399 as the state's state's president of the State Senate. And 265 00:15:27.519 --> 00:15:29.600 well just replies with, yeah, we sent over our help 266 00:15:29.639 --> 00:15:34.320 here first. So that's the Weld family. That's the Weld family. 267 00:15:35.159 --> 00:15:36.279 H yeah. 268 00:15:36.440 --> 00:15:40.759 Well, and they're also responsible for like setting up major 269 00:15:40.960 --> 00:15:47.360 trade routes and stuff. And like so William Gordon Weld 270 00:15:48.200 --> 00:15:51.320 founded some kind of fleet of trading vessels which did 271 00:15:51.440 --> 00:15:54.840 opium trade to China. That I mean, this is the 272 00:15:54.919 --> 00:15:57.159 Weld fan This is what they're known for. I mean, 273 00:15:59.159 --> 00:16:04.320 and so and so William Gordon Weld's son taught William 274 00:16:04.399 --> 00:16:08.480 Fletcher Weld. He expanded like this little empire, right, and 275 00:16:08.600 --> 00:16:12.000 he introduced an even bigger fleet of ships and they 276 00:16:12.039 --> 00:16:16.679 were called the black Horse flag Fleet, and they were 277 00:16:16.759 --> 00:16:20.240 opium traders and they were coming straight out of like 278 00:16:20.720 --> 00:16:24.559 Massachusetts doing opium trade. I mean, this family, I'm talking 279 00:16:24.679 --> 00:16:27.879 like they are the elites. They're the Brahmins, they're the 280 00:16:28.000 --> 00:16:32.080 elite class. They're doing opium trade. They're involved in government, 281 00:16:32.159 --> 00:16:36.000 they're involved in religion. They're in New Zealand, they're in Australia, 282 00:16:36.279 --> 00:16:42.399 they're everywhere literally from going all the way back to 283 00:16:42.559 --> 00:16:46.519 King George the third and he like knighted some of them. 284 00:16:47.320 --> 00:16:48.240 So this is. 285 00:16:50.840 --> 00:16:54.440 Right, right, kind of like a like a Roth's child 286 00:16:54.759 --> 00:17:00.559 for America. Yeah, because everybody goes to like more overtly 287 00:17:02.039 --> 00:17:04.920 what's that I said? I think everybody fixates on like 288 00:17:05.119 --> 00:17:09.160 Rockefeller and like names like that. But the Weld family 289 00:17:09.480 --> 00:17:13.319 is should be mentioned when those things come up, for sure, 290 00:17:13.920 --> 00:17:14.359 and my and. 291 00:17:14.400 --> 00:17:16.720 My and my perspective, they're one of the same. They're 292 00:17:16.720 --> 00:17:21.160 both the Society Cincinnati families. But you know, in regard 293 00:17:21.240 --> 00:17:23.640 to the Welds, they seem more overtly involved in witchcraft 294 00:17:23.680 --> 00:17:24.480 throughout their history. 295 00:17:25.000 --> 00:17:25.519 Mm hmmm. 296 00:17:26.680 --> 00:17:28.079 I'm not saying the other ones are, and I'm just 297 00:17:28.119 --> 00:17:30.759 saying they seem to brag about it. And I'm not 298 00:17:30.799 --> 00:17:33.519 even talking about this time Tuesday Weld we're a witch's 299 00:17:33.599 --> 00:17:37.799 hat to an interview to the fact, Yeah, her a 300 00:17:37.839 --> 00:17:38.720 witch in the seventies. 301 00:17:39.480 --> 00:17:42.440 You know where she did that interview? It was the 302 00:17:43.400 --> 00:17:49.039 Chateau Marmont in California, where, like I'm pretty sure that's 303 00:17:49.079 --> 00:17:52.839 where John Belu she died and like Anton Levey used 304 00:17:52.839 --> 00:17:57.079 to hang out and it's supposedly haunted by all the 305 00:17:57.200 --> 00:18:01.240 ghosts of all the dead celebrities. Passed through that she 306 00:18:01.400 --> 00:18:06.319 did that interview there, and I'm pretty sure she's she's 307 00:18:06.519 --> 00:18:09.119 made fun in the public eye of like I'm a 308 00:18:09.200 --> 00:18:12.279 witch and I have a high pedigree from this this 309 00:18:12.519 --> 00:18:15.079 elite family. What you gonna do about it? Like she's 310 00:18:15.359 --> 00:18:16.200 said stuff like that. 311 00:18:16.480 --> 00:18:18.799 I mean pretty much, She's got a lot of connections 312 00:18:18.799 --> 00:18:23.200 to the Hotel Marmont there, so well, Jack's Jack's one 313 00:18:23.240 --> 00:18:25.680 of his best friends in life. Mister Bob Cocaine Evans 314 00:18:26.720 --> 00:18:31.000 his producer buddy for the film Godfather. Al Ruddy is 315 00:18:31.160 --> 00:18:35.440 Al Ruddy's wife owned that's Chateau Marmont Hotel mm HM 316 00:18:36.000 --> 00:18:37.880 back in the sixties and early seventies. 317 00:18:38.880 --> 00:18:42.720 It's just so crazy because it's like I said, she's 318 00:18:42.880 --> 00:18:46.680 she's like the Babylon girl, but she's not because she's 319 00:18:46.759 --> 00:18:51.400 everywhere and nowhere and like a ghost. She's like a 320 00:18:51.480 --> 00:18:54.880 ghost in Hollywood, like she pops up everywhere. Everyone knows her. 321 00:18:55.839 --> 00:18:58.640 But she's not a household like Maryland, right, She's not 322 00:18:58.720 --> 00:19:02.880 a house or even Jane Mansfield exactly. 323 00:19:03.160 --> 00:19:07.440 Yes, So getting kind of more into her now that 324 00:19:07.519 --> 00:19:10.640 we know about like her family and shit. She was 325 00:19:10.720 --> 00:19:19.200 born on August twenty seventh, nineteen forty three, and it's 326 00:19:19.279 --> 00:19:22.799 based on the research I've done. Like in these elite cults, 327 00:19:24.039 --> 00:19:27.559 people like Tuesday are chosen at a very early age 328 00:19:27.640 --> 00:19:30.559 to carry out whatever it is that they have for them, 329 00:19:31.279 --> 00:19:35.599 and I do think that she was chosen relatively. I 330 00:19:35.680 --> 00:19:40.440 think seven, as you said earlier, is probably when they 331 00:19:40.519 --> 00:19:45.480 started noticing, because they said that she had abundant psychic 332 00:19:45.640 --> 00:19:51.480 and clairvoyant abilities from a very young age. And this 333 00:19:51.920 --> 00:19:56.799 was something that they covet obviously, especially when you come 334 00:19:56.839 --> 00:20:01.680 from a family, an elite family, and got clairvoyant and 335 00:20:01.720 --> 00:20:09.480 psychic abilities. So she's like a nineteen sixties Laurel Canyon 336 00:20:09.559 --> 00:20:12.480 era gal, you know. And she was in the movies, 337 00:20:13.440 --> 00:20:19.759 but she wasn't like Maryland's status famous, which I'll explain 338 00:20:19.880 --> 00:20:24.119 why later on. But she's like your typical archetype of 339 00:20:24.240 --> 00:20:29.640 the Babylon like blonde hair, blue eyed, sex kitten. This 340 00:20:29.880 --> 00:20:33.799 is what the perfect woman should look like kind. 341 00:20:33.640 --> 00:20:36.400 Of thing, oh for sure. And I think that was 342 00:20:36.440 --> 00:20:38.240 her role though, is what all you're describing. This is 343 00:20:38.240 --> 00:20:40.799 all very well organized because this is one of her 344 00:20:40.839 --> 00:20:43.400 first major acting She was in other things starting very young. 345 00:20:43.480 --> 00:20:46.200 I think her first acting role was Ege seven. I 346 00:20:46.240 --> 00:20:48.680 think she was sixteen here in this TV show called 347 00:20:48.720 --> 00:20:51.400 The Familiar with this one Julia the Many Loves of 348 00:20:51.440 --> 00:20:52.480 Dobie Gillis. 349 00:20:53.039 --> 00:20:57.839 I came across that one. Yeah, I've never watched it, obviously. 350 00:20:57.519 --> 00:21:01.079 But oh strangely enough I watched as long before I 351 00:21:01.200 --> 00:21:04.839 really understood and knew who Tuesday World was really was. 352 00:21:04.960 --> 00:21:06.960 It was a popular show in my household growing up. 353 00:21:08.240 --> 00:21:12.839 Well I actually, so you know, like when somebody's getting started, 354 00:21:13.240 --> 00:21:15.799 they'll be in like some shit stuff before they like 355 00:21:15.880 --> 00:21:17.680 really hit the big time and like get like a 356 00:21:17.799 --> 00:21:22.480 right all right, not Tuesday So no, no, And this 357 00:21:22.559 --> 00:21:23.640 show shows it right here. 358 00:21:23.799 --> 00:21:26.759 So the synopsis of the show is the end of 359 00:21:26.799 --> 00:21:29.799 the innocence of the nineteen fifties before the oncoming nineteen 360 00:21:29.880 --> 00:21:31.240 sixties revolution that. 361 00:21:31.440 --> 00:21:34.279 Was played a huge part of in real life role. 362 00:21:34.720 --> 00:21:37.880 Yeah, yes, that's that's what this show that was the 363 00:21:37.960 --> 00:21:39.880 show like that that was kind of the start of 364 00:21:39.960 --> 00:21:42.960 her revolution of the sixties, right where she's kind of 365 00:21:43.039 --> 00:21:45.799 this puppet master the six It starts in nineteen fifty 366 00:21:45.880 --> 00:21:48.440 nine when she's sixteen, what's sixteen years old? And this 367 00:21:48.559 --> 00:21:50.839 TV show that the TV shows about the end of 368 00:21:50.960 --> 00:21:53.559 the fifties and the you know, this new era of 369 00:21:54.519 --> 00:21:55.920 get out with the beat next and in with these 370 00:21:56.000 --> 00:21:57.880 you know, the kind of this new hippie kind of scene. 371 00:21:57.920 --> 00:22:01.559 Almost she played a huge role in the inspiration behind 372 00:22:01.599 --> 00:22:06.519 a lot of music and culture too. But like I have, so, 373 00:22:06.640 --> 00:22:10.200 let's say she she's developing these psychic abilities around like 374 00:22:10.319 --> 00:22:15.039 age seven, and then she began a modeling career at 375 00:22:15.160 --> 00:22:20.160 age twelve, and she landed her film debut at age 376 00:22:20.240 --> 00:22:23.559 twelve in a freaking Alfred Hitchcock movie. 377 00:22:24.119 --> 00:22:24.480 There you go. 378 00:22:25.200 --> 00:22:27.759 So it's like she skipped all of the like, oh, 379 00:22:27.839 --> 00:22:31.240 I gotta try to get roles and stuff. It was 380 00:22:31.319 --> 00:22:35.039 like born psychic twelve years old, she's a model, and 381 00:22:35.160 --> 00:22:38.559 she's in an Alfred Hitchcock movie and literally nobody knows 382 00:22:38.599 --> 00:22:40.599 about her. It's like she didn't even have to try. 383 00:22:40.720 --> 00:22:43.039 They just like threw her in and was like, hey, 384 00:22:43.160 --> 00:22:46.400 Alfred Hitchcock, here you go, bitch, Like how many people 385 00:22:46.440 --> 00:22:49.160 would have died to be in an Alfred Hitchcock movie. 386 00:22:49.279 --> 00:22:51.640 You know, he was huge back then. 387 00:22:53.079 --> 00:22:55.240 And this is actually you think it's just because of 388 00:22:55.279 --> 00:22:59.079 her family, right, her family's running Hollywood. You can answer, oh, 389 00:22:59.160 --> 00:23:00.799 one hundred and. 390 00:23:00.880 --> 00:23:03.480 A lesser known thing about her as well is she 391 00:23:03.799 --> 00:23:08.440 was Stanley Kubrick's first pick for Lolita, right wow, right, 392 00:23:09.319 --> 00:23:11.960 you know the infamous pedophile movie. 393 00:23:12.480 --> 00:23:15.799 So when I say her family, I mean like the 394 00:23:15.880 --> 00:23:19.680 cold family, right, like the family of which the Welds 395 00:23:19.720 --> 00:23:21.599 are obviously a big part of and included in, but 396 00:23:21.640 --> 00:23:23.920 they're not the only family in there, right. 397 00:23:24.440 --> 00:23:28.039 I love this picture of her in Elvis because you know, 398 00:23:28.160 --> 00:23:29.680 I brought it up before. I was like, oh, did 399 00:23:30.039 --> 00:23:33.359 Elvis know Tuesday Weld or do you know that Elvis 400 00:23:33.480 --> 00:23:36.119 knew Tuesday Weld? And it's like, oh, no, I don't 401 00:23:36.119 --> 00:23:38.519 even know who that is. Well, he sure got a 402 00:23:38.960 --> 00:23:41.279 tender love and care for her right there. 403 00:23:41.440 --> 00:23:44.400 Yea, I have about this picture. 404 00:23:44.160 --> 00:23:47.039 Where he was sneaking a little smooch from Tuesday. 405 00:23:49.799 --> 00:23:55.279 Who is that? That's mister Steve McQueen. He's part of 406 00:23:55.319 --> 00:23:58.119 the family, oh one hundred. 407 00:23:59.039 --> 00:24:01.039 He's got a nice little hug for her too. 408 00:24:02.079 --> 00:24:05.200 Yeah, he's as a cousin of mine. I'm McQueen, he 409 00:24:05.920 --> 00:24:09.720 really yeah, yeah, My second great grandmother is a McQueen, 410 00:24:10.960 --> 00:24:14.000 so I think he's somewhere in my fifth cousin. Anyway, 411 00:24:14.079 --> 00:24:17.400 this is nineteen sixty nine, right, because when this photo 412 00:24:17.480 --> 00:24:22.279 was taken, and so yeah, he steals Bob Evans old 413 00:24:22.319 --> 00:24:25.160 cocaine Bob Evans wife. The next year, Steven Queen does 414 00:24:27.839 --> 00:24:29.400 when I say steal, I think all these people are 415 00:24:29.400 --> 00:24:31.640 involved in the sex calt right, So like, oh, yeah, 416 00:24:31.720 --> 00:24:34.359 you know, he runs he runs off with cocaine Bob's wife. 417 00:24:34.640 --> 00:24:37.000 She's married to George propart at this time. I believe 418 00:24:37.039 --> 00:24:38.680 that's when they're married. Is around the same time. 419 00:24:39.799 --> 00:24:44.440 Well and during the time. Oh, I don't know how 420 00:24:44.480 --> 00:24:45.079 old she was. 421 00:24:46.039 --> 00:24:48.200 No, No, the A Team he was the he was 422 00:24:48.240 --> 00:24:50.039 the star of the television show. 423 00:24:49.920 --> 00:24:50.599 Now Team No. 424 00:24:51.160 --> 00:24:52.240 I thought you said she. 425 00:24:53.640 --> 00:24:53.960 I don't know. 426 00:24:54.799 --> 00:24:58.039 Yeah, Carnival Hannibal Smith. I'm too big of an eighteen fan, 427 00:24:58.079 --> 00:25:00.559 I guess. But anyone in the eighties, you know, remembers 428 00:25:00.599 --> 00:25:03.240 this dude from that they don't remember from breakfast at Tiffany's, 429 00:25:03.240 --> 00:25:03.640 you know what I mean. 430 00:25:05.240 --> 00:25:09.680 No, Well, it seems like to me everybody had a 431 00:25:09.759 --> 00:25:11.920 bit of a crush on her. I think Elvis was 432 00:25:11.960 --> 00:25:14.519 still married to Priscilla when he was in a romantic 433 00:25:14.599 --> 00:25:18.000 relationship with Tuesday, So that was all kind of like 434 00:25:18.160 --> 00:25:22.200 hush hudh and like swept under the rug because those 435 00:25:22.279 --> 00:25:24.799 two were in a movie together, which I will get 436 00:25:24.839 --> 00:25:28.920 to in a minute. But JJ, have you heard of 437 00:25:28.960 --> 00:25:31.240 a movie she was in called Lord Love a Duck. 438 00:25:32.079 --> 00:25:34.920 I was gonna bring that movie up to sure, Yeah, 439 00:25:35.400 --> 00:25:38.559 that's exactly like that Adobie Gillis show. It's a it's 440 00:25:39.119 --> 00:25:41.279 spawning this revolution that she's in charge of it, and 441 00:25:41.480 --> 00:25:43.039 we'll kind of bragging about it more or less. 442 00:25:43.079 --> 00:25:47.160 But right, so, like it's basically like this demon that 443 00:25:47.720 --> 00:25:50.960 grants you wishes, right, and she just wants fame and 444 00:25:51.079 --> 00:25:51.799 she wants whatever. 445 00:25:52.160 --> 00:25:55.480 But anyways, but she's like a cold hypriestess in that 446 00:25:55.599 --> 00:25:56.920 right Barbara Ann Right? 447 00:25:57.240 --> 00:26:00.359 Yeah, she she plays Barbara and nicknamed Barbie. 448 00:26:00.519 --> 00:26:00.680 Right. 449 00:26:02.160 --> 00:26:04.920 Yeah. But they see allegedly sanging on the Beach Boys 450 00:26:04.920 --> 00:26:06.920 song Barbara Ann as a tribute to this movie that 451 00:26:07.000 --> 00:26:08.720 came out at the same time as this movie. 452 00:26:09.200 --> 00:26:10.200 That's what I was gonna say. 453 00:26:10.319 --> 00:26:12.079 So she's talking about the process. 454 00:26:13.920 --> 00:26:18.680 The Beach Boys were were infatuated with her, and that's 455 00:26:18.720 --> 00:26:21.319 where Barbara Ann came from, was this Lord Love a 456 00:26:21.400 --> 00:26:25.839 Duck because they were they were infatuated with Tuesday And 457 00:26:27.279 --> 00:26:30.640 it's to me, it's signaling again like she's the Barbie right. 458 00:26:30.720 --> 00:26:32.799 And I kind of talked to Nick before about like 459 00:26:32.880 --> 00:26:35.680 where the Barbie origins came from. And they're pretty. 460 00:26:35.440 --> 00:26:38.599 Sister, you know, you're saying, like the Barbie doll is 461 00:26:38.680 --> 00:26:41.319 like some sort of like idol of some regard, is right. 462 00:26:43.000 --> 00:26:46.519 The very first, the very first Barbie doll that ever 463 00:26:46.640 --> 00:26:50.759 came out was was a sex toyikes. 464 00:26:51.519 --> 00:26:56.519 Yes, it was definitely. It was definitely sold sexually, yes. 465 00:26:56.680 --> 00:26:59.240 And it had nipples and it had a vagina, and 466 00:26:59.440 --> 00:27:02.720 all they did literally to market it to children was 467 00:27:02.839 --> 00:27:05.799 removed the nipples in the vagina. It was the same dress, 468 00:27:05.960 --> 00:27:07.720 it was the same face, it was the same hair, 469 00:27:07.880 --> 00:27:10.400 it was everything was the same. And when the guy 470 00:27:10.559 --> 00:27:14.039 took this sex doll just removed the anatomy parts. He 471 00:27:14.119 --> 00:27:16.519 took it to like a kid's convention thing to sell it, 472 00:27:16.880 --> 00:27:18.799 and parents were like, what are you doing with it? 473 00:27:19.400 --> 00:27:21.759 Like they were creeped out by it. But now it's 474 00:27:21.880 --> 00:27:24.640 like that's the staple. You know, it's like a Barbie 475 00:27:24.720 --> 00:27:31.440 doll that's sexualizing for children basically for sure, because before 476 00:27:31.519 --> 00:27:34.599 the Barbie, little girls would play with babies and like 477 00:27:34.799 --> 00:27:40.079 they were learning how to become a mother, you know who? Right, Yeah, 478 00:27:40.599 --> 00:27:42.640 And then they introduced the kin doll, and it's like 479 00:27:42.799 --> 00:27:43.720 use your imagination. 480 00:27:45.000 --> 00:27:46.640 Yeah, they got a new evolution. I mean, I like 481 00:27:46.680 --> 00:27:48.200 how you're describing this, because that's how I look at 482 00:27:48.240 --> 00:27:52.640 the new evolution of this stuff, the American something American 483 00:27:52.720 --> 00:27:54.200 dolls or American girls or something. 484 00:27:54.279 --> 00:27:56.279 Oh yeah, American girl dolls. 485 00:27:56.799 --> 00:27:59.519 It's that's that's Barbie, even to the next level of 486 00:27:59.519 --> 00:28:02.200 evolution of this kind of psyoptom floor you're describing. 487 00:28:02.480 --> 00:28:06.920 Yes, yes, but so I think it's interesting that she's 488 00:28:07.039 --> 00:28:10.400 like Barbara Ann in this movie and the Beach Boys 489 00:28:10.440 --> 00:28:13.839 write this song. She's Barbie. She's blonde hair, she's blue eyes, 490 00:28:13.880 --> 00:28:17.200 she's got like the perfect body, literally everything. She is 491 00:28:17.400 --> 00:28:18.839 the epitome of. 492 00:28:18.960 --> 00:28:23.960 Just supposedly stings on that too, as shows she's allegedly 493 00:28:24.039 --> 00:28:26.119 she's a backup singer in the song Barbara Ann by 494 00:28:26.160 --> 00:28:28.519 the Beach Boys. Again, as you point out, their obsession 495 00:28:28.519 --> 00:28:31.880 with her makes sense. Their their music producers, mister Phil Spector, 496 00:28:31.960 --> 00:28:34.640 the process guy, you know, the wall of sound guy, 497 00:28:34.720 --> 00:28:39.000 you know, the wrecking crew guy. Oh there, and then 498 00:28:39.160 --> 00:28:41.799 you know, so the beach wasn't surrounded by that. You know, 499 00:28:41.880 --> 00:28:45.119 you got you got what's his name, Brian Wilson, you know, 500 00:28:45.279 --> 00:28:47.720 is the financier of Charles Manson and family. Why would 501 00:28:47.759 --> 00:28:49.920 argue he's just helping finance the process at that rate, 502 00:28:50.160 --> 00:28:50.640 you know what I mean? 503 00:28:50.720 --> 00:28:54.240 And you know Dennis Wilson, He's got to be Dennis Wilson. 504 00:28:54.359 --> 00:28:55.039 My apologies. 505 00:28:55.160 --> 00:28:56.799 Oh, I was gonna say he's the one that had 506 00:28:56.839 --> 00:29:01.039 a big heart on for Manson, had him living in 507 00:29:01.160 --> 00:29:02.240 his house and ship. 508 00:29:02.799 --> 00:29:06.279 Right, and they're all friends with I always missed this 509 00:29:06.359 --> 00:29:08.920 dude's name up. He's a music producer. He wrote the 510 00:29:08.960 --> 00:29:11.440 song Cocomo with the Wilson Boys, you know, for the 511 00:29:11.559 --> 00:29:16.200 Scientology Tom Cruise classic film in the eighties. Cocktail's the 512 00:29:16.519 --> 00:29:21.279 song written for that. He's he was, He was Charlie's 513 00:29:21.319 --> 00:29:22.759 a cell mate at Terminal Island. 514 00:29:23.319 --> 00:29:27.920 Phil, I don't know. That's a very familiar. 515 00:29:28.599 --> 00:29:31.240 Music producer friend of the Beach Boys. Obviously did did 516 00:29:31.319 --> 00:29:34.039 produce some Beach Boys stuff along with writing with the 517 00:29:34.079 --> 00:29:39.720 Beach Boys and Cocomo. Yeah, I might have got Terry 518 00:29:39.759 --> 00:29:42.079 Melcher mashed up with Phil Coffin, but they're both in 519 00:29:42.119 --> 00:29:44.279 the same mix with the Beach Boys, right, these people 520 00:29:44.319 --> 00:29:45.119 around Manson. 521 00:29:45.640 --> 00:29:47.720 The guy, Yeah, I was gonna say. Phil Kaufman is 522 00:29:47.799 --> 00:29:52.160 definitely mentioned in uh Dave McGowan's work. 523 00:29:52.799 --> 00:29:54.200 Yeah, that's why I first learned about him. 524 00:29:54.279 --> 00:29:57.680 Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's how I know about him at least. 525 00:29:58.039 --> 00:30:01.160 And he was everywhere in the music scene. But yeah, 526 00:30:01.359 --> 00:30:04.319 he served. He was there in Terminal Island there with Chuck. 527 00:30:06.079 --> 00:30:11.079 That's so wild, dude. You know something else about her? 528 00:30:11.119 --> 00:30:16.480 I think, if I'm not mistaken, she was like fifteen 529 00:30:17.200 --> 00:30:18.240 in Lord Love a Duck. 530 00:30:19.640 --> 00:30:22.839 And she sounds about right so old way. She was 531 00:30:22.880 --> 00:30:26.599 born in what forty three? Uh huh, yeah, I think 532 00:30:26.640 --> 00:30:29.119 she was probably like twenty then maybe, oh, she was 533 00:30:29.799 --> 00:30:31.880 twenty three, twenty probably twenty two. 534 00:30:32.839 --> 00:30:35.160 So this must be a quote from a different movie, 535 00:30:35.200 --> 00:30:37.480 because I said, I have in my notes one of 536 00:30:37.599 --> 00:30:40.359 the male actors she worked with on one of these movies. 537 00:30:40.400 --> 00:30:43.880 I guess it wasn't this one. A quote from him 538 00:30:44.119 --> 00:30:50.880 was Tuesday is fifteen going on twenty seven. He said that, 539 00:30:51.480 --> 00:30:56.759 So it was like, I don't know, they all had 540 00:30:56.839 --> 00:30:59.559 like an infatuation with her even when she was young. 541 00:30:59.680 --> 00:31:05.480 Yeng like she started when she was twelve, got the 542 00:31:05.599 --> 00:31:09.839 Alfred Hitchcock movie. Then she's with Elvis, she's with Jack Nicholson, 543 00:31:10.119 --> 00:31:13.680 she's obviously fifteen, still doing stuff, and they're like, oh yeah, 544 00:31:13.799 --> 00:31:16.799 Tuesday she's fifteen going on twenty seven. 545 00:31:17.119 --> 00:31:21.079 Okay, who said that? Do you have a source? Floma 546 00:31:21.319 --> 00:31:22.799 just said danny K. 547 00:31:24.400 --> 00:31:25.599 Always said did you find it? 548 00:31:26.279 --> 00:31:28.319 That's why when I searched the quote, that's what it 549 00:31:28.359 --> 00:31:30.119 came up with, Danny K. But I don't know this 550 00:31:30.279 --> 00:31:31.559 actor though. Do you know him? 551 00:31:32.680 --> 00:31:32.720 No? 552 00:31:33.079 --> 00:31:36.759 The article that I pulled it from, said a co 553 00:31:37.720 --> 00:31:41.440 A co male actor she worked with, referred to her 554 00:31:41.599 --> 00:31:45.200 as quote, Tuesday is fifteen going on twenty seven. 555 00:31:46.039 --> 00:31:47.839 It's this dude, Danny. I don't know this guy's work, 556 00:31:47.920 --> 00:31:51.200 but he was much older dude than Tuesday. But he's 557 00:31:51.279 --> 00:31:54.039 buried in Westchester, KY of New York. There, Nick, Well, 558 00:31:54.119 --> 00:32:01.480 Hella definitely look west Chester specifically, right, So is he like. 559 00:32:01.960 --> 00:32:03.960 A big wig guy or I don't know? 560 00:32:05.200 --> 00:32:09.680 Says He says he was an actor, comedian, singer, and dancer. 561 00:32:11.119 --> 00:32:13.200 She also knew Bing Crosby too. 562 00:32:13.680 --> 00:32:16.079 Oh maybe they were all in White Christmas together. 563 00:32:16.559 --> 00:32:20.240 Yeah, maybe I didn't know her to be in White Christmas? 564 00:32:20.440 --> 00:32:21.039 Is she in that? 565 00:32:21.920 --> 00:32:21.960 No? 566 00:32:22.079 --> 00:32:24.200 I'm just saying I know that's a being Crosby Danny K, 567 00:32:24.279 --> 00:32:26.039 and I recognized That's the only thing I recognized that 568 00:32:26.119 --> 00:32:26.759 Danny K from. 569 00:32:27.440 --> 00:32:31.279 Okay, Yeah, it is with Bing Crosbie. I mean she 570 00:32:31.440 --> 00:32:33.960 knows everybody, dude, literally she does, doesn't she Because this 571 00:32:34.039 --> 00:32:36.519 dude is a way older actor than she is. Yeah, 572 00:32:36.759 --> 00:32:39.880 and apparently he was fantasizing about her being twenty seven. 573 00:32:43.519 --> 00:32:46.279 Okay, yeah, she was sixteen and that she was sixteen. 574 00:32:47.559 --> 00:32:50.079 They did a film called Five Pennies Together in nineteen 575 00:32:50.160 --> 00:32:52.240 fifty nine, so she was five right around the same 576 00:32:52.279 --> 00:32:55.599 time she did that Dobie Guilli stuff she was. 577 00:32:56.920 --> 00:33:00.240 Later on after this stuff, she was in some thing 578 00:33:00.319 --> 00:33:06.079 called seventy seven Sunset Strip, which also stood out. Yeah. 579 00:33:06.440 --> 00:33:09.880 I think it was a show called seventy seven Sunset 580 00:33:10.039 --> 00:33:13.920 Strip and it was another like weird Laurel Canyony weirdness. 581 00:33:14.440 --> 00:33:19.279 But you know seventy seven, You're right, seventy seven like 582 00:33:19.559 --> 00:33:24.279 the OZ, the Magician's number whatever, and maybe seventy seven. 583 00:33:25.039 --> 00:33:27.559 Yeah, well sevens and stuff. Yeah, I do you find 584 00:33:27.559 --> 00:33:28.039 that interesting? 585 00:33:28.200 --> 00:33:29.279 I was gonna say, I don't. I don't know what 586 00:33:29.319 --> 00:33:31.119 the meetings are, man, it seems creepy that they would 587 00:33:31.160 --> 00:33:33.039 name it that, right whatever, The seven seven's got to 588 00:33:33.079 --> 00:33:33.720 mean something. 589 00:33:33.559 --> 00:33:36.640 Right, and it's sunset strip, right, like where all the 590 00:33:36.680 --> 00:33:40.759 Laurel canyons. Shit's going down and it's. 591 00:33:40.640 --> 00:33:42.720 Not yet there, right, not yet because this is from 592 00:33:42.839 --> 00:33:47.200 fifty eight to sixty four pop off until sixty four. 593 00:33:47.160 --> 00:33:49.519 Right, was it? 594 00:33:49.799 --> 00:33:51.720 I thought it was a little bit earlier than that. 595 00:33:52.279 --> 00:33:53.160 I could no, I believe. 596 00:33:53.240 --> 00:33:56.200 I believe the birds first album was maybe late sixty 597 00:33:56.240 --> 00:33:59.720 three with all that Dylan music. This is beat up 598 00:33:59.720 --> 00:34:02.279 police is the uh is the Proto Manson guy in 599 00:34:02.359 --> 00:34:04.240 Laurel Kenyon? I know. I think that's around sixty three 600 00:34:04.359 --> 00:34:04.920 or sixty four. 601 00:34:05.559 --> 00:34:08.960 Yeah, so was Sunset Strip this seventy seven Sunset Strip? 602 00:34:09.119 --> 00:34:10.199 Was that Veto's time? 603 00:34:11.400 --> 00:34:12.599 He would have been hanging out in that at the 604 00:34:12.679 --> 00:34:13.800 time yet, because. 605 00:34:13.519 --> 00:34:17.880 He was like the granddaddy of the whole movement, right, yeah, exactly. 606 00:34:18.079 --> 00:34:18.280 Yeah. 607 00:34:19.599 --> 00:34:23.199 So this is a series and her episode was called 608 00:34:24.000 --> 00:34:26.239 Secret Island or something like that. 609 00:34:26.679 --> 00:34:33.440 Okay, but she so after being really creepy show, Julie, 610 00:34:33.679 --> 00:34:37.119 I've never paid attention to this. I have an ex 611 00:34:37.159 --> 00:34:41.119 active and former WW two WW two World War two 612 00:34:41.480 --> 00:34:44.920 Office of Strategic Service is secret agent, right, That's that's 613 00:34:44.960 --> 00:34:46.599 the main character, is an OSS guy. 614 00:34:48.639 --> 00:34:52.320 This is where I mentioned this stuff because after she's 615 00:34:52.400 --> 00:34:56.119 in this show, she's in a movie with Dick Clark. 616 00:34:56.440 --> 00:34:59.599 That's called sex Kittens go to College. 617 00:35:00.960 --> 00:35:01.719 I'm familiar with that. 618 00:35:03.039 --> 00:35:07.880 She went from seventy seven Sunset strip to sex Kittens 619 00:35:07.960 --> 00:35:10.559 go to College. It's like they pointed out. 620 00:35:10.480 --> 00:35:14.480 There for you, you know, quite a career trajectory, right. 621 00:35:15.519 --> 00:35:17.400 Sex kittens go to college? 622 00:35:17.679 --> 00:35:18.000 Like what? 623 00:35:21.000 --> 00:35:23.719 Oh, I think we skipped over this when chronologically she 624 00:35:23.880 --> 00:35:27.079 was in uh oh yeah, Rock with a convicted child 625 00:35:27.280 --> 00:35:29.199 child sex offender Chuck Berry. 626 00:35:29.320 --> 00:35:32.760 Damn oh yes, Chuck Berry. Yeah. 627 00:35:33.840 --> 00:35:35.320 I'm not sure if he was convicted yet. He was 628 00:35:35.760 --> 00:35:38.519 getting popped right around this time though, for the violations 629 00:35:38.559 --> 00:35:39.199 of the main act. 630 00:35:40.480 --> 00:35:43.360 Well was it before or after this Wild in the 631 00:35:43.480 --> 00:35:47.400 Country with Elvis came out and that's when they developed 632 00:35:47.400 --> 00:35:48.519 their little romance. 633 00:35:49.880 --> 00:35:52.440 Yeah, I don't know because I'm trying to remember when 634 00:35:52.519 --> 00:35:57.000 Chuckburry because the music, the music record studio company folks 635 00:35:57.559 --> 00:36:00.559 literally brokeer Chuck Berry's release from prison, like they want 636 00:36:00.639 --> 00:36:01.960 the Feds want to keep him in there for like 637 00:36:02.000 --> 00:36:04.000 a long time. They're like, look, this dude's going to 638 00:36:04.079 --> 00:36:05.920 make us a lot of money. You know, we got 639 00:36:06.000 --> 00:36:08.119 to get him out of there, you know. So he 640 00:36:08.159 --> 00:36:09.440 didn't give what he did about soon and a half. 641 00:36:09.440 --> 00:36:10.920 I think he was out by nineteen sixty, but it 642 00:36:11.000 --> 00:36:12.760 was right around this time he was with Tuesday. Well 643 00:36:12.800 --> 00:36:15.000 that is when he got popped. When he was when 644 00:36:15.039 --> 00:36:19.400 he was committing violations of the Man Act. So child 645 00:36:19.480 --> 00:36:22.960 sex trafficking wasn't really technically illegal in many states where 646 00:36:22.960 --> 00:36:24.960 there was a federal law at the time called the 647 00:36:25.039 --> 00:36:28.199 Man Act, which was taking an underage, you know, minor 648 00:36:28.280 --> 00:36:30.679 across state lines for the purposes of sexual activity. And 649 00:36:31.239 --> 00:36:34.760 that's what Chuck Barry was doing. That's doing, and that's 650 00:36:34.800 --> 00:36:36.559 what he was doing a lot of it. He later 651 00:36:36.599 --> 00:36:38.840 would write a number one single called My Dingling and 652 00:36:38.960 --> 00:36:42.679 tour American having people sing along with a convicted child 653 00:36:42.760 --> 00:36:45.559 sex offender. You know, it's kind of dark. Yeah, that's 654 00:36:45.599 --> 00:36:47.599 Tuesday's friends. That's Tuesday's friends. 655 00:36:48.039 --> 00:36:50.679 Well, I was going to say too. In that Elvis movie, 656 00:36:50.760 --> 00:36:53.400 she was the Wild in the Country. I don't know 657 00:36:53.440 --> 00:36:55.320 if it was before or after this, she played an 658 00:36:55.480 --> 00:36:59.800 incest victim. Oh man with Elvis. H with Elvis. 659 00:37:00.199 --> 00:37:03.159 Yeah, that was sixty one, I think h think that 660 00:37:03.280 --> 00:37:05.000 was sixty one. So yeah. The Sex Kittens Go to 661 00:37:05.079 --> 00:37:09.119 College was nineteen sixty with Dick Clark. Yeah, the Reva 662 00:37:09.679 --> 00:37:12.079 like what goes on right? Like you got Brookshields as 663 00:37:12.639 --> 00:37:14.840 an eleven year old what in like nineteen seventy eight, 664 00:37:15.039 --> 00:37:17.280 you know, naked in a film as a child prostitute. 665 00:37:17.679 --> 00:37:20.840 You got other you know, obviously Tuesdays of Age here, right, 666 00:37:21.599 --> 00:37:25.639 Well she's barely of age. She's probably seventeen actually in 667 00:37:25.760 --> 00:37:29.480 sixteen when she filmed this, right when I was young. 668 00:37:30.519 --> 00:37:31.519 Yeah, she'sty three. 669 00:37:32.079 --> 00:37:34.760 Yeah, a little questionable, right, having having a child in 670 00:37:34.840 --> 00:37:36.760 a film called sex Kittens. Got to call. 671 00:37:37.400 --> 00:37:39.639 College and it's like, look at the cover. It's it's 672 00:37:39.719 --> 00:37:43.719 your archetypes, right, you got Tuesdays, the blonde with blue eyes, 673 00:37:43.800 --> 00:37:46.079 and you got a redhead with a green shirt on, 674 00:37:46.760 --> 00:37:49.559 and then you have the brunette with like this red 675 00:37:49.679 --> 00:37:54.920 polka dot thing. It's it's the Neapolitan sex kitten for you, 676 00:37:55.719 --> 00:37:55.960 I know. 677 00:37:56.119 --> 00:37:57.880 So that's what your Marilyn Monroe on top? 678 00:37:58.960 --> 00:38:01.440 Oh isn't that two day on top? 679 00:38:01.559 --> 00:38:02.599 I thought this was Tuesday? 680 00:38:03.480 --> 00:38:03.960 Which one? 681 00:38:04.159 --> 00:38:06.199 The redheaded middle one? The middle one? Yeah? 682 00:38:07.199 --> 00:38:10.360 Oh, I can barely see it because it's so small, 683 00:38:10.440 --> 00:38:12.840 But I just assumed it's not. 684 00:38:13.039 --> 00:38:14.920 It's not Marilyn Monroe. But I mean, are they trying 685 00:38:14.960 --> 00:38:18.559 to aim for Marilyn Monroe? Bit it's Mami von Dorian. 686 00:38:18.760 --> 00:38:21.599 Ooh, another blonde hair, blue eyed. 687 00:38:22.079 --> 00:38:25.440 Yeah. Oh, she's one of the three m's. Okay, along 688 00:38:25.480 --> 00:38:27.559 with Marilyn Monroe and Jane Mansfield. Okay, I don't know 689 00:38:27.639 --> 00:38:28.039 this lady. 690 00:38:28.519 --> 00:38:31.079 I don't know her either, Mammy Maymi. 691 00:38:31.119 --> 00:38:32.880 Yeah, Mamie Van Dorton. 692 00:38:33.880 --> 00:38:36.800 I'm sure if you looked into her, she falls right 693 00:38:36.880 --> 00:38:40.599 in the same category with all the other archetypes. 694 00:38:40.920 --> 00:38:44.599 Right, I mean you got Mansfield and uh and uh 695 00:38:44.840 --> 00:38:51.320 Marilyn Monroe, who, like Tuesday Welder dedicated to the Satanic Bible, right, yes, but. 696 00:38:51.440 --> 00:38:51.719 You know. 697 00:38:53.440 --> 00:38:59.639 Tuesday and Maryland were up for the same parts very often, 698 00:39:00.039 --> 00:39:03.239 and they would go with Maryland as opposed to Tuesday. 699 00:39:04.400 --> 00:39:07.639 And it's like, why is that because Marylyn is lacking 700 00:39:07.719 --> 00:39:10.800 the pedigree that Tuesday has And why did Tuesday never 701 00:39:10.880 --> 00:39:14.800 blow up and become like a megastar the way that 702 00:39:14.920 --> 00:39:20.760 these women did. And this is how I would explain it. 703 00:39:20.920 --> 00:39:25.039 And JJ, you can agree or disagree, but it's like 704 00:39:26.519 --> 00:39:31.239 they use women like Jane Mansfield and Marilyn Monroe, and 705 00:39:31.400 --> 00:39:33.639 it's like they get them and they use them up 706 00:39:34.400 --> 00:39:37.000 and they burn them out and then they throw them away. 707 00:39:37.719 --> 00:39:41.119 They like die horribly at young ages, and it's like 708 00:39:41.199 --> 00:39:45.800 they're all they're literally burnt out by the end of 709 00:39:46.320 --> 00:39:51.960 their career in their early twenties and thirties, whereas Tuesday 710 00:39:52.159 --> 00:39:55.599 is almost like she's been protected and she lives still 711 00:39:55.719 --> 00:39:59.480 to this day a ridiculously bizarre, charmed life. 712 00:40:00.400 --> 00:40:04.159 And is that I mean, I agree with you there, 713 00:40:04.239 --> 00:40:06.039 Julia on how they how they burn them ounta and 714 00:40:06.320 --> 00:40:08.360 is it's a very intentional thing. I think as well. 715 00:40:08.400 --> 00:40:10.760 But she but to be honest with me, here's her 716 00:40:10.800 --> 00:40:13.440 life that all that charmed. She married Dudley Moore, She 717 00:40:13.559 --> 00:40:16.039 had a child with Dudley Moore, that little strange, little 718 00:40:16.519 --> 00:40:20.639 hobbit looking fellow. You know what I'm talking about, Martha. Yeah, Well, 719 00:40:20.760 --> 00:40:24.920 when I I watch charnfe Be, I don't know, but 720 00:40:25.119 --> 00:40:28.079 I watched He's gotta be a wizard, right. I've always 721 00:40:28.079 --> 00:40:29.880 written it off like that, dude's gotta be a wizard. Right. 722 00:40:29.960 --> 00:40:34.119 I mean, what's right, That's what I'm saying, dude, Like, 723 00:40:34.239 --> 00:40:35.559 how what's going on there? 724 00:40:36.679 --> 00:40:40.280 I mean, she when she's she's been interviewed and I've 725 00:40:40.360 --> 00:40:44.360 watched them and she kind of like it was like, 726 00:40:44.400 --> 00:40:47.280 all right, I'm just gonna be a stay at home mom. 727 00:40:47.519 --> 00:40:51.000 And just drink wine all day and you know, sit 728 00:40:51.119 --> 00:40:55.440 around and basically she's just living the life of luxury. 729 00:40:55.480 --> 00:40:57.199 I don't know for her husband's a weirdo or not, 730 00:40:57.599 --> 00:41:00.440 but she she got a lot better outcome than Jane 731 00:41:00.519 --> 00:41:02.719 Mansfield and Maryland, I'll tell you that much. 732 00:41:03.760 --> 00:41:06.159 But I guess that's that's a good comparison. Although though 733 00:41:06.239 --> 00:41:09.320 I think Homegirl won the won the competition, they're miss 734 00:41:09.519 --> 00:41:12.239 h what was her name, Donna von Dene or whatever, 735 00:41:12.239 --> 00:41:17.079 And what was this lady's name again? Maybe maybe yeah, 736 00:41:17.119 --> 00:41:18.599 Maymie von Dene or something. 737 00:41:18.840 --> 00:41:23.840 Yeah, something like that. I feel like, oh, well, maybe 738 00:41:23.920 --> 00:41:25.840 she's maybe she's another day. 739 00:41:26.559 --> 00:41:26.760 Yeah. 740 00:41:28.800 --> 00:41:32.480 But it's like these other actresses are like expendable. They're 741 00:41:32.559 --> 00:41:35.679 like a dime a dozen. You can create many Marilyn 742 00:41:35.760 --> 00:41:38.719 Monroe's and they've done it throughout time with like Madonna 743 00:41:38.840 --> 00:41:42.320 and Britney Spears and Kasha and it's like Lady Gaga, 744 00:41:42.800 --> 00:41:45.000 you can create as many as you want of this 745 00:41:45.199 --> 00:41:50.920 archetype of the blonde, blue eyed you know, priestess of 746 00:41:51.559 --> 00:41:54.960 like the upper echelon of women, because they've done it 747 00:41:55.119 --> 00:42:00.679 multiple times, like I said, throughout time. But why is 748 00:42:01.000 --> 00:42:06.119 Tuesday protected? Like why is she set apart, and I 749 00:42:06.239 --> 00:42:10.480 think these other women are like they want to be 750 00:42:10.559 --> 00:42:15.199 a part of the club, right, they don't have the genetics, right, 751 00:42:15.320 --> 00:42:17.519 And it's like the club that they're trying to be 752 00:42:17.599 --> 00:42:19.800 a part of is Tuesdays Club. 753 00:42:20.960 --> 00:42:22.519 Like it's like when you join the mafia or whatever, 754 00:42:22.519 --> 00:42:24.360 you're going to get in so hard unless you're part 755 00:42:24.360 --> 00:42:26.679 of the actual family, right, So like you know, so 756 00:42:26.760 --> 00:42:29.280 I kind of view these side characters right, like they're 757 00:42:29.280 --> 00:42:31.880 not quite part of the family, but yeah, they're they're 758 00:42:31.920 --> 00:42:33.960 like they're a lower echelon of the system. 759 00:42:34.079 --> 00:42:41.079 Yes, they're initiates into something that Tuesday's family built exactly. 760 00:42:41.239 --> 00:42:45.440 That's why she doesn't get burnt out and suicided or 761 00:42:45.639 --> 00:42:48.840 drug overdosed or car accident or like used up and 762 00:42:48.960 --> 00:42:52.880 burnt out. She's like, I'll get into it in a second. 763 00:42:52.920 --> 00:42:54.239 But it's like she's. 764 00:42:56.320 --> 00:42:59.920 Little man though, right, we still see it's inconclusive. 765 00:43:00.800 --> 00:43:02.639 Let me see him. I just want to see you. 766 00:43:02.960 --> 00:43:04.840 Nick's gotta put Nick put a picture of the on 767 00:43:04.920 --> 00:43:08.920 this little villa. 768 00:43:09.719 --> 00:43:12.000 Oh god, he's hideous, right. 769 00:43:12.760 --> 00:43:14.559 No, if you're watch him in like author, he'd be 770 00:43:14.639 --> 00:43:17.400 like which I'm sure is really his personality, but you 771 00:43:17.440 --> 00:43:18.719 would be like, what the fuck? 772 00:43:19.199 --> 00:43:23.079 He must he must be a bloodliner, right, got a 773 00:43:23.119 --> 00:43:25.679 lot of money, he has to be. He has to 774 00:43:25.800 --> 00:43:27.639 be because it's like, you don't get that high a 775 00:43:27.679 --> 00:43:31.039 pedigree of a Tuesday Weld unless you're a bloodliner, because 776 00:43:31.079 --> 00:43:31.679 they want. 777 00:43:33.119 --> 00:43:35.079 I think we thought that right. It's something weird, right. 778 00:43:35.599 --> 00:43:38.719 Yeah, because it's not like somebody with Tuesday Weld whoesdated 779 00:43:39.639 --> 00:43:42.760 Elvis is gonna end up marrying this guy in pro 780 00:43:42.960 --> 00:43:46.199 creating unless he's a bloodliner. She probably has a boyfriend 781 00:43:46.199 --> 00:43:46.840 who's side. 782 00:43:47.800 --> 00:43:50.000 She was married to George for part. Have you seen 783 00:43:50.119 --> 00:43:52.880 the a teen carnival Hannibal Smith. I mean she went 784 00:43:52.920 --> 00:43:54.280 from Hannibal Smith to this guy. 785 00:43:55.159 --> 00:43:57.440 That's why, that's why it's got to be on purpose, 786 00:43:58.440 --> 00:44:01.800 because whatever genetics have together is going to make the 787 00:44:01.880 --> 00:44:04.360 next you know, Tuesday. 788 00:44:04.840 --> 00:44:07.119 That makes as much sense as Jackson wedding. 789 00:44:11.159 --> 00:44:16.360 But you know, think of the obsession that she had 790 00:44:16.679 --> 00:44:18.440 around her for her to end up with this guy, 791 00:44:18.559 --> 00:44:22.360 right because the Beatles sang about her, the Stones sang 792 00:44:22.440 --> 00:44:25.599 about her. That Beach Boys song is about her. She 793 00:44:25.800 --> 00:44:28.039 literally could have picked anybody she wanted. Elvis had a 794 00:44:28.079 --> 00:44:32.800 big crush on her, and she is said to be 795 00:44:32.960 --> 00:44:36.840 part of the influence behind the changes of the Beatles 796 00:44:36.960 --> 00:44:41.599 being like Bubblegummy to Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds. 797 00:44:41.760 --> 00:44:47.119 They say, like Tuesday somehow played a role in that transition. 798 00:44:48.119 --> 00:44:50.320 Sure, well, you'll see that in that Lord Love a 799 00:44:50.400 --> 00:44:52.880 Duck movie right in the very beginning of it, Roddy McDowell, 800 00:44:52.880 --> 00:44:54.960 the greaser guys getting beat up by the hippie guy 801 00:44:55.079 --> 00:44:58.280 right on the beach, and Tuesday, well, it's kind of like, 802 00:44:58.400 --> 00:45:00.559 you know, cheering it on there. So she's she has 803 00:45:00.599 --> 00:45:03.159 heard cheering on this movement of revolution of the sixties 804 00:45:03.199 --> 00:45:06.000 where they're inserting this this hippie dum and you know, 805 00:45:06.000 --> 00:45:08.920 the Laurel Canyon scene. They're they're going to be, you know, 806 00:45:09.440 --> 00:45:12.239 taking a little Cannes scene and inserting it across America, right, 807 00:45:12.280 --> 00:45:14.559 because that really started there. And you know when why 808 00:45:14.639 --> 00:45:17.199 folks think that that the you know, sixties rock and 809 00:45:17.320 --> 00:45:20.840 roll started at the Monterey Music Festivals, because it's the 810 00:45:21.000 --> 00:45:22.880 Laurel Canyon folks all went up to the Monorary Music 811 00:45:22.960 --> 00:45:25.239 Festival as they're launching you know, they're launching it for 812 00:45:25.360 --> 00:45:27.760 marketing purposes, right. Yeah. 813 00:45:28.760 --> 00:45:34.000 And the song that the Stones wrote about her, Ruby 814 00:45:34.119 --> 00:45:38.960 Tuesday that everybody knows, and they probably thought that it 815 00:45:39.199 --> 00:45:43.760 was the day of the week or something, right, Ruby Tuesday. 816 00:45:44.400 --> 00:45:48.679 But it actually inspired me to look into a little 817 00:45:48.719 --> 00:45:53.719 bit further why they would have used that terminology. Have 818 00:45:53.840 --> 00:45:57.039 you ever read Fritz Springmeyer, you guys either one. 819 00:45:57.440 --> 00:46:00.000 Heard of thirteen blood Lines of the Illuminati. 820 00:46:00.119 --> 00:46:02.480 Yeah, something like that. I think he also has another 821 00:46:02.559 --> 00:46:11.039 one where he so in Fritz Springtire's work, he he 822 00:46:11.159 --> 00:46:14.480 talks about there's levels and there's like a rank system 823 00:46:14.800 --> 00:46:18.119 in the darker cult. I don't know if it's specifically 824 00:46:18.239 --> 00:46:22.280 for SRA victims, but definitely for like programmed multiples, right, 825 00:46:22.400 --> 00:46:27.400 And there's like this rank system, and they're all different 826 00:46:27.480 --> 00:46:32.920 types of gemstones. And so the diamond is like the 827 00:46:33.079 --> 00:46:40.960 presidential model whore, and the emerald is like psychic stuff. 828 00:46:41.440 --> 00:46:46.360 They're used for rituals. And then there's the ruby, which 829 00:46:46.440 --> 00:46:49.599 is related to the bloodline, which is like upper echelon. 830 00:46:49.880 --> 00:46:52.960 They're also used in rituals, but they're more like the 831 00:46:53.079 --> 00:46:56.840 high priestess level. And then there are pearls, which are 832 00:46:56.960 --> 00:47:02.639 like mind files. And so so if you look at 833 00:47:02.679 --> 00:47:06.840 these program multiples, most of the time they're wrapping their gymstone, 834 00:47:06.960 --> 00:47:11.079 so like Marilyn is this diamond level. Diamonds are girl's 835 00:47:11.199 --> 00:47:15.159 best friend, Diamonds are forever. She pushed diamonds in the sixties. 836 00:47:15.880 --> 00:47:20.039 And then if you look there's Ruby Usday with the 837 00:47:20.199 --> 00:47:25.039 royal blood and if you really dive into John Beney 838 00:47:25.159 --> 00:47:32.599 Ramsey and how much they push the emerald symbology with her, 839 00:47:32.840 --> 00:47:35.320 and that's supposed to be like psychics that are used 840 00:47:35.320 --> 00:47:38.599 for rituals in this rank system. But there's this one 841 00:47:38.679 --> 00:47:42.920 picture that everybody always posts of John Benet where she's 842 00:47:43.159 --> 00:47:46.559 got her pinky finger up and she's wearing an emerald ring, 843 00:47:47.440 --> 00:47:52.000 and it's it's like, why so specifically that picture of 844 00:47:52.519 --> 00:47:55.199 John Beney like this wearing an emerald ring on her 845 00:47:55.280 --> 00:47:59.960 pinky And if you really look into these ranking systems, 846 00:48:00.159 --> 00:48:04.280 they're all gemstones and these women will rep like these 847 00:48:04.920 --> 00:48:09.159 the pearls, the rubies, diamonds, emeralds, whatever their ranking is. 848 00:48:09.880 --> 00:48:14.239 So I don't know how you guys feel about that, 849 00:48:14.440 --> 00:48:17.199 but I think that could be what the Ruby Tuesday 850 00:48:17.440 --> 00:48:17.880 is about. 851 00:48:18.480 --> 00:48:20.719 So you're saying, like a ranking of her ranking within 852 00:48:20.800 --> 00:48:21.239 the system. 853 00:48:21.880 --> 00:48:24.800 Yeah, because she's the ruby is like one of the 854 00:48:24.920 --> 00:48:28.840 most precious of the gymstones and the ruby is red 855 00:48:28.920 --> 00:48:32.039 for the blood. It's like the Royal blood, the High 856 00:48:32.159 --> 00:48:36.239 Priestess Ruby Tuesday. Because you would think it would be 857 00:48:36.280 --> 00:48:39.519 a diamond, right, but look what happened to Maryland. Diamonds 858 00:48:39.599 --> 00:48:44.400 are literally worthless in the end. Rubies are way more precious. 859 00:48:45.159 --> 00:48:48.920 And you know, it's like, if you look, you'll see 860 00:48:49.000 --> 00:48:51.960 these weird gymstones pop up with a lot of these libs. 861 00:48:52.880 --> 00:48:55.559 And if it's true that she's like royal blood, which 862 00:48:55.599 --> 00:49:00.000 she is, and she's got the pedigree, it's very reminiscent 863 00:49:00.239 --> 00:49:03.679 to me of David Crosby, whose family all goes all 864 00:49:03.679 --> 00:49:06.800 the way back to the founding fathers and shit, and 865 00:49:06.880 --> 00:49:09.360 I feel like he's always been protected. I mean there's 866 00:49:09.360 --> 00:49:11.559 been multiple times he should have been arrested and thrown 867 00:49:11.599 --> 00:49:13.920 into prison and got himself into all kinds of a mess, 868 00:49:13.960 --> 00:49:16.280 and he just goes gets off with it. 869 00:49:17.239 --> 00:49:18.920 It sounds a I like the rest of the processor, 870 00:49:19.000 --> 00:49:22.840 doesn't it Like Bob Cocaine Evans and John Fellows from 871 00:49:22.840 --> 00:49:25.239 the Mamas and the Papas, these people skirting off on 872 00:49:25.880 --> 00:49:27.280 getting drug trafficking charges. 873 00:49:28.400 --> 00:49:31.880 Right, It's like there is if you go back in 874 00:49:32.000 --> 00:49:35.320 the Crosby, Oh Ruby Slippers, I love that they mentioned 875 00:49:35.360 --> 00:49:40.480 that because it's the the movie The Wizard of Oz. 876 00:49:40.559 --> 00:49:44.039 I've covered it before. It's very occulted, and it's got 877 00:49:44.239 --> 00:49:46.679 so many mentions to magic in there. You've got the 878 00:49:46.760 --> 00:49:48.519 ruby slippers for Dorothy. 879 00:49:49.920 --> 00:49:52.920 Oh one thing I do, Crosby and real quick too. 880 00:49:53.000 --> 00:49:55.280 About the ruby. I don't know if this has anything 881 00:49:55.320 --> 00:49:56.719 to do with it, but I could see it being 882 00:49:56.719 --> 00:50:00.480 almost a symbol of alchemy. Most of the time. People 883 00:50:00.480 --> 00:50:02.880 probably don't know this, and I heard this from somebody else, 884 00:50:02.920 --> 00:50:04.599 so it wasn't like, you know, I figured this out 885 00:50:04.639 --> 00:50:07.239 on my own. Most rubies, you would find that it 886 00:50:07.280 --> 00:50:09.280 would look like a stone until you apply heat to it, 887 00:50:09.400 --> 00:50:11.559 and then it turns into what you would normally see 888 00:50:11.639 --> 00:50:14.480 is the red. So you even do actually have to 889 00:50:14.559 --> 00:50:16.400 apply heat to this thing to get it to turn 890 00:50:16.480 --> 00:50:19.239 into the ruby. So it's kind of out chemical in 891 00:50:19.280 --> 00:50:19.559 the cell. 892 00:50:21.400 --> 00:50:27.760 Well, they say that because Tuesday started developing psychic abilities 893 00:50:27.880 --> 00:50:31.679 when she was really young, and clairvoyant abilities, that they 894 00:50:31.760 --> 00:50:34.480 almost had to like not blood her in, but they 895 00:50:35.519 --> 00:50:41.199 had to traumatize her in a way that would amplify 896 00:50:41.920 --> 00:50:45.119 I guess, her abilities. So that also goes along with 897 00:50:45.280 --> 00:50:48.039 the ruby. It's like they had a heater up a 898 00:50:48.119 --> 00:50:51.119 little bit to turn her into what she became, and 899 00:50:51.199 --> 00:50:55.159 then they protected her her entire life. You know, very 900 00:50:55.280 --> 00:50:58.360 reminiscent to me of David Crosby, because he also like 901 00:50:58.800 --> 00:51:01.800 he's got like founding all their signers of the Declaration 902 00:51:01.960 --> 00:51:06.199 of Independence, you know, civil War generals. I mean, his 903 00:51:06.360 --> 00:51:08.480 family tree goes all the fucking way back. 904 00:51:09.320 --> 00:51:11.480 Oh, they're the New York chapter of the Society. He's 905 00:51:11.519 --> 00:51:15.039 a he's a Van Cortland shooler, I believe, right. 906 00:51:15.559 --> 00:51:19.679 Yeah, Well, you know that song that the li'le sang 907 00:51:19.800 --> 00:51:22.199 that song, and it's like Tuesdays on the Phone to me, 908 00:51:22.760 --> 00:51:27.320 they say in this song. Yes, they say Tuesdays on 909 00:51:27.400 --> 00:51:29.840 the phone to me. If you go back and you 910 00:51:29.960 --> 00:51:33.119 find out what that story is, Tuesday was calling them 911 00:51:33.400 --> 00:51:40.440 from David Crosby's house. Oh so it's like when you 912 00:51:40.519 --> 00:51:42.559 look at these guys, it's like, of course they hang out. 913 00:51:42.840 --> 00:51:47.800 Of course they they're besties, you know, right, right, Tuesdays 914 00:51:47.840 --> 00:51:51.000 over at David Crosby's house, just casually calling the Beatles, 915 00:51:51.119 --> 00:51:53.039 and they feel like it's so significant they got to 916 00:51:53.079 --> 00:51:53.840 put it in a song. 917 00:51:55.320 --> 00:51:57.239 Oh for sure. There's lots of other songs too. Right, 918 00:51:58.159 --> 00:51:59.719 I mean just besides the Beatles in the in the 919 00:52:00.719 --> 00:52:02.840 you know, in the stones. But what do you think, 920 00:52:03.039 --> 00:52:05.360 So what do you think this wasn't her as far 921 00:52:05.400 --> 00:52:07.440 as you know, protecting or staying out of the limelight, 922 00:52:07.599 --> 00:52:09.880 Like do you think that was her decision? Like she 923 00:52:10.079 --> 00:52:12.159 She's quoted in seventy one in the New York Times 924 00:52:12.199 --> 00:52:15.079 saying like, for example, she didn't take the role for 925 00:52:15.280 --> 00:52:18.199 Rosemary's Baby, right, she declined the role. So do you 926 00:52:18.239 --> 00:52:20.039 think that's her decline the role? Do you think there's 927 00:52:20.039 --> 00:52:21.800 somebody like West bring in her ear like you should 928 00:52:21.840 --> 00:52:23.480 not be doing, you know, you do not need to 929 00:52:23.519 --> 00:52:27.519 go star in cocaine, Bob Evans, Roan Planski's processed Church 930 00:52:27.679 --> 00:52:30.800 Satan shit you know, shit storm here. Do you think 931 00:52:30.840 --> 00:52:32.800 someone told her that or she's making that on her 932 00:52:32.840 --> 00:52:33.280 own call? 933 00:52:33.639 --> 00:52:35.320 I don't well, I don't think she's making any of 934 00:52:35.360 --> 00:52:38.559 her own decisions because she's been like kind of guided 935 00:52:38.679 --> 00:52:41.679 since she was aged twelve with Alfred Hitchcock and stuff. 936 00:52:41.800 --> 00:52:44.960 But right, right, this is what I'll say, because the 937 00:52:45.159 --> 00:52:50.000 dedication in Anton LaVey's Satanic Bible is like everyone would 938 00:52:50.119 --> 00:52:53.480 know who that is, who Tuesday is if they saw that, right, 939 00:52:53.519 --> 00:52:56.800 because he also mentions Marilyn Monroe and Jane Mansfield. But 940 00:52:57.800 --> 00:53:01.159 there is some other quotes for Anton Levey where he 941 00:53:01.320 --> 00:53:05.000 says he refers to her looks several times and how 942 00:53:05.039 --> 00:53:08.559 beautiful she is. He also refers to her witchery as 943 00:53:08.880 --> 00:53:13.039 he says, and he basically describes her as like the 944 00:53:13.119 --> 00:53:16.480 heart of the ocean jewel, like she's so special and 945 00:53:16.599 --> 00:53:21.880 she's so amazing and elite if you will. But he 946 00:53:22.000 --> 00:53:25.480 also alluded to the fact that Tuesday will never be 947 00:53:25.639 --> 00:53:30.159 in the spotlight because she's serving a greater purpose as heroes. 948 00:53:31.239 --> 00:53:34.039 That's from popular witchcraft, straight from the witch's mouth, an 949 00:53:34.079 --> 00:53:38.760 interview with High Priest Anton Lavay. You found it nineteen 950 00:53:38.800 --> 00:53:40.679 seventy two, and this is a says two thousand and five. 951 00:53:40.719 --> 00:53:41.400 That's a reprint. 952 00:53:42.119 --> 00:53:44.920 There you go right there. He literally says, you know, 953 00:53:45.039 --> 00:53:47.440 Tuesday will never be big, she will never be in 954 00:53:47.480 --> 00:53:50.400 the spotlight because she's so smart and she's serving this 955 00:53:50.559 --> 00:53:53.760 greater purpose. And the greater purpose has nothing to do 956 00:53:53.840 --> 00:53:54.960 with how famous she is. 957 00:53:55.639 --> 00:53:58.719 Yeah, and in comparison to Mansfield and Monroe, he says, well, 958 00:53:58.800 --> 00:54:01.559 Tuesday's part of the rituals, right. 959 00:54:01.679 --> 00:54:06.440 Yeah, like Tuesdays like the upper echelon where like all 960 00:54:06.480 --> 00:54:09.280 these other bitches are like fodder for the Candon, right, 961 00:54:09.519 --> 00:54:13.159 Like it's just, you know, throw another Jane Mansfield out there, 962 00:54:13.280 --> 00:54:17.880 let's get Marilyn Monroe fucked up. And you know it's 963 00:54:18.000 --> 00:54:21.599 just I don't know. She this this whole thing about 964 00:54:21.679 --> 00:54:25.599 her being involved in rituals and like obviously the Anton 965 00:54:25.679 --> 00:54:28.000 LaVey stuff, and she never did make it big, but 966 00:54:28.119 --> 00:54:32.719 yet she knows everyone and is traveling with the circles. 967 00:54:34.119 --> 00:54:38.760 And Bob Hope, Steve McQueen, Elvis Presley, James Kahn, you know, 968 00:54:39.039 --> 00:54:42.280 Al Pacino, a lot of crowd of cocaine Bob's friends, 969 00:54:42.559 --> 00:54:45.119 a lot of cocaine Bob's friends, Robert de Niro, you 970 00:54:45.199 --> 00:54:47.679 know these are all her co stars and films, right. 971 00:54:48.360 --> 00:54:52.639 Yeah, And I guess she's known to show up so 972 00:54:52.840 --> 00:55:01.400 like some of these Hollywood events with like two giant 973 00:55:01.679 --> 00:55:03.199 white wolves with her. 974 00:55:03.880 --> 00:55:04.719 And stuff like that. 975 00:55:05.800 --> 00:55:08.320 Yeah, it's like, oh Tuesdays here and she's got these 976 00:55:08.400 --> 00:55:11.360 two big giant white wolves at both of her sides, 977 00:55:11.480 --> 00:55:14.079 and it's like, Okay, here comes the priestess, here comes 978 00:55:14.199 --> 00:55:18.880 the Biggie, the big Witch, and everybody like Revere's her. 979 00:55:19.360 --> 00:55:22.239 Oh Tuesday with the White Wolves and shit, you know, 980 00:55:22.360 --> 00:55:24.599 she's she's a force to be reckoned with. 981 00:55:29.920 --> 00:55:31.960 That's pretty wild. Yeah, I know. 982 00:55:34.599 --> 00:55:38.599 But the thing is, it's like I said before, she 983 00:55:38.760 --> 00:55:42.320 knows everyone. She was in Hollywood for a little bit, 984 00:55:42.400 --> 00:55:44.199 but not to the point where she got burnt out 985 00:55:44.239 --> 00:55:47.599 and thrown away like some of the bigger ones. She's 986 00:55:47.679 --> 00:55:51.719 definitely part of the counterculture scene. She's got songs written 987 00:55:51.760 --> 00:55:54.679 about her. She knows the Beatles, the Stones. Imagine, like, 988 00:55:54.800 --> 00:55:56.920 how many people can you say that were even in 989 00:55:57.039 --> 00:55:59.639 the Laurel Canyon that could say, oh, the Beatles, the 990 00:55:59.719 --> 00:56:02.719 beat which Boys, the Stones, they all wrote songs about me, 991 00:56:02.840 --> 00:56:03.920 but nobody knows who I. 992 00:56:03.960 --> 00:56:10.480 Am exactly, exactly. Yeah, she's easily the most influential person 993 00:56:10.519 --> 00:56:13.679 in the entire scene music, movies, you know, the whole 994 00:56:13.719 --> 00:56:16.360 social aspect of it. And according to some folks. I 995 00:56:16.679 --> 00:56:19.760 so when I asked earlier, how you summer across Well, 996 00:56:20.199 --> 00:56:22.960 whenever I do find people that have interested themselves in 997 00:56:23.000 --> 00:56:25.000 the life of Tuesday Weld and I'm just trying to 998 00:56:25.079 --> 00:56:28.199 understand it. I asked that question because I came across 999 00:56:28.280 --> 00:56:31.679 it in two ways really, So my initial interest was 1000 00:56:31.800 --> 00:56:33.960 I'd read the works of Adam go Rightley and his 1001 00:56:34.119 --> 00:56:37.280 series that he printed years ago and did a couple 1002 00:56:37.320 --> 00:56:38.960 of podcast interviews with a guy I want to sit 1003 00:56:39.000 --> 00:56:41.239 around two thousand and nine. I think he wrote the 1004 00:56:41.239 --> 00:56:44.280 series in two thousand and seven and NOI magazine or 1005 00:56:44.280 --> 00:56:47.199 something like that. I think he's reprinted it in books 1006 00:56:47.199 --> 00:56:49.880 since then, but that was the original source. He interviews 1007 00:56:49.920 --> 00:56:52.840 a guy. Are you familiar with the guy I'm talking about? 1008 00:56:52.880 --> 00:56:55.360 Where the stories come from? This his source in this 1009 00:56:55.519 --> 00:56:59.559 In this series, a fellow by the name of Escape 1010 00:56:59.599 --> 00:57:05.880 me Jet Jeff Turner. Oh no, what's this Jeff Turner? 1011 00:57:05.920 --> 00:57:09.639 I believe he's still alive. He's an extremely ausistic, severe 1012 00:57:09.719 --> 00:57:12.559 autistic man who works in a soup kitchen. I believe 1013 00:57:12.559 --> 00:57:16.960 in San Jose, California. He claims of known Tuesday Weld 1014 00:57:17.000 --> 00:57:20.079 for a very long time, since he was a youngster. 1015 00:57:20.920 --> 00:57:23.840 He claims Tuesday Weld got him involved with spying on 1016 00:57:24.119 --> 00:57:27.639 one of her underlings that had decided to leave her 1017 00:57:27.960 --> 00:57:30.679 guys and go take over what this man described as 1018 00:57:30.719 --> 00:57:34.000 the processed Church of the Final Judgment. That lady's name 1019 00:57:34.079 --> 00:57:37.360 was Christy McManus. This is all stuff that's been published. 1020 00:57:37.679 --> 00:57:40.000 She's still alive. She's still love. She's running some occult 1021 00:57:40.000 --> 00:57:43.400 stuff in Vegas. Last time I looked. So that's what 1022 00:57:43.480 --> 00:57:44.920 I'm saying when I say last time I looked, I 1023 00:57:45.199 --> 00:57:47.079 looked at some of the details of this guy, and 1024 00:57:47.280 --> 00:57:49.719 some of these details do check out. This Christy McManus 1025 00:57:49.880 --> 00:57:52.559 is definitely involved in the occult. Whether or not she 1026 00:57:52.719 --> 00:57:55.880 was Tuesday Well's underling, I couldn't tell you. But nonetheless, 1027 00:57:55.960 --> 00:57:57.920 this fella doesn't seem to be spending the yarns in 1028 00:57:58.079 --> 00:58:00.360 large part of you ask me, there's some not willing 1029 00:58:00.400 --> 00:58:02.400 to throw the baby out with the with the bathtub, 1030 00:58:02.480 --> 00:58:03.599 you know what I mean, just because the guys. 1031 00:58:05.159 --> 00:58:10.719 That's that's like oddly specific for it now to stay welled, 1032 00:58:11.119 --> 00:58:12.639 like literally, why would ever? 1033 00:58:12.840 --> 00:58:15.719 No one knows exactly, no one knows he is right. 1034 00:58:15.840 --> 00:58:18.599 So this dude has this whole story go rightly. I 1035 00:58:18.679 --> 00:58:21.960 believe his sense concluded after years later that he's he's 1036 00:58:22.320 --> 00:58:24.480 he's kind of just moved away from this, this whole 1037 00:58:24.559 --> 00:58:27.039 narrative and stuff. You don't think he has anybody my understanding, 1038 00:58:27.159 --> 00:58:29.440 He no longer has any buying into it. But you 1039 00:58:29.519 --> 00:58:31.639 know what a Discordian thing to do if you ask me, 1040 00:58:32.119 --> 00:58:36.480 mm hmmm, Like the chief Discordian. 1041 00:58:36.840 --> 00:58:39.719 Well and the fact that she's still alive and could 1042 00:58:39.840 --> 00:58:42.000 dispute that if she found out about it. 1043 00:58:42.239 --> 00:58:46.280 But yeah, she's ever commented, right, I don't think she 1044 00:58:46.360 --> 00:58:46.840 ever comment. 1045 00:58:46.920 --> 00:58:48.559 Well, maybe this dude was. 1046 00:58:48.519 --> 00:58:52.000 Allegedly spying on this network of this Tuesday Wells underlings 1047 00:58:52.000 --> 00:58:53.840 in the eighties out of San Jose and then would 1048 00:58:53.880 --> 00:58:57.159 later describe these activities to Adam Go rightly relative to 1049 00:58:57.280 --> 00:59:01.199 this Charles Manson cult. So, according to this dude, Tuesday 1050 00:59:01.280 --> 00:59:03.880 Well was calling all the shots in the Manson murder 1051 00:59:04.199 --> 00:59:07.760 like she was at that level of the situation. Yeah, 1052 00:59:07.960 --> 00:59:12.119 that's that's his dude's statements, Jeff Turner statements. Now again, 1053 00:59:12.280 --> 00:59:15.320 I will offer this disclaimer. Jeff Turner, they made him. 1054 00:59:15.320 --> 00:59:17.639 I don't think he's nearly his looney tunes. I highly 1055 00:59:17.679 --> 00:59:20.159 doubt he's nearly these looney tunes. These two filmmakers made 1056 00:59:20.199 --> 00:59:22.239 him out to be. But I think it was intentional. 1057 00:59:22.599 --> 00:59:24.840 So after he told these stories to go rightly and 1058 00:59:24.880 --> 00:59:28.039 go rightly published him. Two film students tonight, two film 1059 00:59:28.119 --> 00:59:30.519 students from NYU show up in San Jose, California. I 1060 00:59:30.519 --> 00:59:32.480 think is how the story goes, and they want to 1061 00:59:32.480 --> 00:59:35.000 film a documentary about the man. Will they turn that 1062 00:59:35.400 --> 00:59:39.559 that documentary into Jeff Turner's obsession with the singer Tiffany 1063 00:59:41.320 --> 00:59:44.440 and he was arrested. Yeah, he was arrested outside somewhere 1064 00:59:44.880 --> 00:59:47.280 in the eighties with a samurai sword he was trying 1065 00:59:47.320 --> 00:59:50.760 to give the Tiffany. So, you know, there is there's 1066 00:59:50.800 --> 00:59:52.239 obviously a bit of a narrative there. 1067 00:59:52.880 --> 00:59:53.800 Why Tiffany. 1068 00:59:54.920 --> 00:59:57.280 He's got a whole separate story where Tiffany runs a 1069 00:59:57.320 --> 00:59:59.159 different faction opposite Tuesday. 1070 00:59:59.159 --> 01:00:05.280 Oh odd, stop it, stop it. 1071 01:00:06.239 --> 01:00:08.880 Her Tiffany's assistant. And again, I'm not trying to discredit 1072 01:00:08.920 --> 01:00:10.639 the guy's story because again, some of the stuff cond 1073 01:00:10.639 --> 01:00:12.880 of checks out over the years. Right, this is something 1074 01:00:12.920 --> 01:00:15.079 he said back in like two thousand and seven. Tiffany's 1075 01:00:15.079 --> 01:00:20.519 assistant in that opposing faction to Tuesday World was Alyssa Milano. 1076 01:00:20.679 --> 01:00:23.079 Think about how many occult films Alyssa Milana has done. 1077 01:00:23.360 --> 01:00:26.239 Think about how much weird political stuff she's inserted herself 1078 01:00:26.280 --> 01:00:29.440 into in recent years. Oh my god. 1079 01:00:29.599 --> 01:00:32.440 And all these people are still alive and could very 1080 01:00:32.719 --> 01:00:38.559 easily like dispute these things, and they're not saying a peep. 1081 01:00:39.400 --> 01:00:42.440 Yeah, So these filmmakers turned Jeff Turner into complete looney 1082 01:00:42.480 --> 01:00:45.320 to him, I putting him into a film about stalkers 1083 01:00:45.360 --> 01:00:48.519 of Tiffany. Right well, he was clearly a stalker of Tiffany. 1084 01:00:48.800 --> 01:00:50.400 He wasn't so much a fan of her music. He 1085 01:00:50.559 --> 01:00:52.320 was part he was trying to he had some whole 1086 01:00:52.400 --> 01:00:54.559 thing where he's obsessed with this whole he's familiar with 1087 01:00:54.559 --> 01:00:56.280 this whole cult network, right, you know what I mean. So, 1088 01:00:56.840 --> 01:00:59.519 but they really framed it in I think a very 1089 01:00:59.800 --> 01:01:03.079 weird light with these filmmakers and this this documentary. So 1090 01:01:03.519 --> 01:01:05.440 this documentary was pretty big. So if anyone had any 1091 01:01:05.480 --> 01:01:07.960 dispute about these subjects, like you're saying, there was there, 1092 01:01:08.000 --> 01:01:09.519 they had opportunities to dispute. 1093 01:01:10.840 --> 01:01:16.239 Well, listen, it's just funny you say this because somebody 1094 01:01:16.280 --> 01:01:18.599 who came up before we started recording. I guess I'll 1095 01:01:18.679 --> 01:01:21.000 just sut it out there since Tiffany came up. 1096 01:01:21.000 --> 01:01:26.440 But I haven't heard that name in a while, righty, Right, Well, So. 1097 01:01:28.280 --> 01:01:31.360 My brother is a musician and he has the same 1098 01:01:31.480 --> 01:01:34.880 manager as Marilyn Manson and Nine Inch Nails, and he 1099 01:01:35.039 --> 01:01:39.440 has been able to meet Marilyn Manson and Tiffany and 1100 01:01:40.320 --> 01:01:47.039 some of these bigger people and huh, yeah, he hung 1101 01:01:47.119 --> 01:01:51.760 out with Tiffany, but no, so he's he's like asked 1102 01:01:52.000 --> 01:01:55.039 Marilyn Manson like questions and he calls him Brian and 1103 01:01:55.119 --> 01:02:00.960 ship and like apparently, uh, I don't know his last name. 1104 01:02:01.079 --> 01:02:06.920 My brother always just says Brian, but he I guess 1105 01:02:07.199 --> 01:02:10.559 Brian told him this story about like Hunter S. Thompson 1106 01:02:10.920 --> 01:02:15.000 and Johnny Depp and like all this weird stuff. And 1107 01:02:15.440 --> 01:02:18.880 he was wearing these sunglasses that belonged to Hunter S. 1108 01:02:18.960 --> 01:02:20.760 Thompson and he took them off and he like gave 1109 01:02:20.840 --> 01:02:23.639 him to my brother and just let him wear him 1110 01:02:23.679 --> 01:02:27.239 around for a while or whatever. But anyways, he said 1111 01:02:27.320 --> 01:02:31.039 that like Marilyn Manson and Tiffany and they all hang 1112 01:02:31.119 --> 01:02:34.480 out together well, and like they all meet up at 1113 01:02:34.559 --> 01:02:37.199 the same clubs and play together and stuff. 1114 01:02:37.360 --> 01:02:40.559 Yeah, what you're describing to me is more details confirming 1115 01:02:40.599 --> 01:02:41.800 the tales of Jeff Turner. 1116 01:02:42.079 --> 01:02:44.159 That's why I brought it up, is because I had 1117 01:02:44.440 --> 01:02:49.519 never heard Tiffany ever besides my brother say that those 1118 01:02:49.639 --> 01:02:50.760 two were connected. 1119 01:02:51.840 --> 01:02:53.079 Was cool with him too? 1120 01:02:55.079 --> 01:03:00.960 With Thompson, No, with uh Marylyn, Yeah, oh I did 1121 01:03:01.039 --> 01:03:01.400 not know that. 1122 01:03:01.559 --> 01:03:01.639 Ye. 1123 01:03:06.239 --> 01:03:08.800 Well, Hunter Thompson makes sense to me. He strikes me 1124 01:03:08.800 --> 01:03:11.239 as an og processed guy like his connections with depth, 1125 01:03:11.679 --> 01:03:13.480 their friendship over the years, and were Manson for that 1126 01:03:13.559 --> 01:03:16.920 matter makes sense because Hunter S. Thompson was doing security 1127 01:03:16.960 --> 01:03:18.920 at the Eslam Institute when they were constructing the place. 1128 01:03:21.159 --> 01:03:23.039 He was, Yeah, he was living, he was living on 1129 01:03:23.119 --> 01:03:25.079 the grounds. He chasing people off with his forty five. 1130 01:03:25.760 --> 01:03:28.480 Dude, there's so much stuff about him. You ever heard 1131 01:03:28.559 --> 01:03:30.719 that he like fucked his cat and stuff like that. 1132 01:03:31.639 --> 01:03:33.000 Not shocked, not shocked? 1133 01:03:33.559 --> 01:03:36.480 Yeah, well, you know the reason I bring it up 1134 01:03:36.519 --> 01:03:39.920 to is because like Marilyn Manson, right, it's Marilyn Monroe 1135 01:03:40.119 --> 01:03:44.239 and Charles Manson yeah together right, and those are two 1136 01:03:44.280 --> 01:03:47.920 people we just got done talking about. And so he's 1137 01:03:48.000 --> 01:03:52.559 traveling in these circles with I guess process people like Tiffany, right, 1138 01:03:52.639 --> 01:03:55.960 and somehow Tuesday Weld is in there too, Like, dude, 1139 01:03:56.000 --> 01:03:58.880 that blows my mind that she even came up. And 1140 01:03:59.039 --> 01:04:02.119 I literally you have never told that story to anybody before. 1141 01:04:02.800 --> 01:04:03.360 That's awesome. 1142 01:04:04.480 --> 01:04:09.840 The electronic music stuff she was, that mall pop singer. 1143 01:04:10.159 --> 01:04:11.920 I'm just wondering if the style of music was even 1144 01:04:11.960 --> 01:04:14.639 processed church people, because remember they were big into the ship. 1145 01:04:14.800 --> 01:04:17.119 Doesn't always have to sound like industrial, you know what 1146 01:04:17.159 --> 01:04:18.679 I'm saying, if you're digital. 1147 01:04:19.440 --> 01:04:23.360 That eighties kind of electrical rock, right or whatever, like 1148 01:04:23.400 --> 01:04:25.239 you never didn't have a band or whatever. She just 1149 01:04:25.280 --> 01:04:27.199 sang with some music, right, Yeah. 1150 01:04:27.280 --> 01:04:30.840 I mean, you know, I'm sure you know a Tiffany song, Nick. 1151 01:04:31.480 --> 01:04:34.320 Yeah, I know, I know for sure. 1152 01:04:34.320 --> 01:04:35.000 I just can't think of it. 1153 01:04:35.159 --> 01:04:37.480 I was going to say everybody, everybody knows, like I 1154 01:04:37.559 --> 01:04:39.400 think we're alone now. Yeah. 1155 01:04:39.440 --> 01:04:41.440 Yeah, I'm just trying to remember the actual music if 1156 01:04:41.480 --> 01:04:43.679 it was like digital, like you know, it was electronic 1157 01:04:43.800 --> 01:04:45.840 or was it like actual instrument It was like, I 1158 01:04:45.880 --> 01:04:46.840 can't remember. 1159 01:04:46.679 --> 01:04:51.960 Everything else that came out sound. Yeah, I mean, how 1160 01:04:52.000 --> 01:04:58.800 do you even describe as like electronic kind of weird sounding? Yeah, 1161 01:05:00.599 --> 01:05:10.719 but yeah, no, I mean, damn, Tiffany that big Oh 1162 01:05:10.880 --> 01:05:12.800 my goodness, I can't believe. 1163 01:05:12.840 --> 01:05:14.480 I can't believe. I can't believe you had a story 1164 01:05:14.480 --> 01:05:16.599 about Tiffany relative to the process. That's fantastic. 1165 01:05:17.159 --> 01:05:19.679 Well, I just had never heard anybody to make that 1166 01:05:19.800 --> 01:05:22.159 connection before. And you know, sometimes I get stories from 1167 01:05:22.199 --> 01:05:24.119 my brother and I'm like, oh, yeah, that's really cool. 1168 01:05:24.159 --> 01:05:25.840 But I don't know how to put the pieces together. 1169 01:05:26.000 --> 01:05:29.079 I mean, I'm sure Manson said stuff about Depp and 1170 01:05:29.159 --> 01:05:31.480 he said stuff about Hunter s. Thompson and stuff. But 1171 01:05:31.559 --> 01:05:34.000 then he mentioned this Tiffany and I was like, well, 1172 01:05:34.119 --> 01:05:36.320 what did she have one fucking song in the eighties 1173 01:05:36.360 --> 01:05:37.199 that everybody knows? 1174 01:05:37.320 --> 01:05:37.800 Like who is this? 1175 01:05:38.280 --> 01:05:41.320 Who is this girl? Anyways? And oh my god, now 1176 01:05:41.400 --> 01:05:42.519 it makes sense. 1177 01:05:43.920 --> 01:05:48.000 So according to Jeff Turner, she's born. She's also of 1178 01:05:48.079 --> 01:05:52.679 some some like Lebes I believe Lebanese heritage where she's 1179 01:05:52.760 --> 01:05:56.800 like some sort of Soufi hyph priestess, much like Tuesday 1180 01:05:56.840 --> 01:05:59.960 Well was born into Celtic hypriestess. The way he explained 1181 01:06:00.039 --> 01:06:01.599 it is like she was born to a Sufi high 1182 01:06:01.639 --> 01:06:02.320 priestess role. 1183 01:06:03.079 --> 01:06:05.159 And what is this guy's name, Jeff Turner. 1184 01:06:05.599 --> 01:06:07.559 Yeah, I'll be happy to introduce you in the folks 1185 01:06:07.599 --> 01:06:08.760 of the interwebs to Jeff Turner. 1186 01:06:08.800 --> 01:06:10.840 Here, somebody's asking about Debbie Gibson. 1187 01:06:10.880 --> 01:06:15.079 Now, let me let me let me find uh, let 1188 01:06:15.159 --> 01:06:18.760 me find the actual trailer trailor I mean you look 1189 01:06:18.840 --> 01:06:20.880 up you can look up his videos. There's a whacky dude. 1190 01:06:20.920 --> 01:06:24.440 I'm just saying some of his Uh, somebody asked about Blondie. 1191 01:06:29.920 --> 01:06:31.280 Wasn't that Blondie. 1192 01:06:32.360 --> 01:06:33.079 Debbie Gibson? 1193 01:06:33.960 --> 01:06:37.920 Mm hmm, wasn't that her name. Oh no, I'm gonna 1194 01:06:37.920 --> 01:06:38.320 google it. 1195 01:06:38.480 --> 01:06:40.760 I Dobbie Gibson was a difference here? 1196 01:06:40.840 --> 01:06:42.000 Right? Oh was it? 1197 01:06:42.119 --> 01:06:43.760 What's what was Blondie's name? 1198 01:06:46.280 --> 01:06:49.239 Why can't I find the actual trailer to this documentary? 1199 01:06:50.039 --> 01:06:56.880 Oh, Blondie's real name was Angela nevermind? Fuck me? Oh no, 1200 01:06:57.119 --> 01:07:02.159 Debbie Debbie Harry was born or Angela Tremble and then 1201 01:07:02.519 --> 01:07:05.280 became Blondie. So her name is Debbie Harry. 1202 01:07:12.079 --> 01:07:13.960 Look if you want to pop that on screen, all interditional, 1203 01:07:14.119 --> 01:07:17.039 Jeff Turner, like, this guy looks great. 1204 01:07:17.559 --> 01:07:22.400 Known each other most of her life, and known each 1205 01:07:22.400 --> 01:07:25.760 other most different her life, and we are in love 1206 01:07:25.800 --> 01:07:27.960 with each other. And she's a great singer. 1207 01:07:28.440 --> 01:07:32.320 The difference between me. So that's the other stalker they 1208 01:07:32.360 --> 01:07:36.519 put in the film this I don't Transfeste. Yeah, I 1209 01:07:36.559 --> 01:07:38.440 think it was actually her maprodit I think it actually 1210 01:07:38.480 --> 01:07:41.239 did have think if I recall correctly from watching this 1211 01:07:41.360 --> 01:07:45.320 documentary years ago, they described it as having multiple sex 1212 01:07:45.480 --> 01:07:47.719 organs of some sort, because at some point in time 1213 01:07:47.760 --> 01:07:50.119 the autistic fella makes fun of fun of it for 1214 01:07:50.400 --> 01:07:52.480 that or whatever, it becomes a thing. 1215 01:07:53.360 --> 01:07:56.320 So can I just say, before you hit play again, 1216 01:07:56.519 --> 01:07:59.840 that this person on screen if you can't see looks 1217 01:07:59.880 --> 01:08:03.199 like Annie Lennox and Marilyn Manson mixed together. 1218 01:08:03.920 --> 01:08:10.679 It's like the same you're on. They claim they were 1219 01:08:10.719 --> 01:08:12.920 making the documentary about Turner, and they made it more 1220 01:08:12.960 --> 01:08:14.960 about this character. That's why I didn't know. 1221 01:08:17.319 --> 01:08:19.560 I mean they they've already done a great job making 1222 01:08:19.640 --> 01:08:20.840 him look crazy. 1223 01:08:21.399 --> 01:08:23.520 Right, they give them you. I don't really even introduce him. 1224 01:08:23.560 --> 01:08:25.119 He's just like, oh, I love Tiffany, and then they 1225 01:08:25.159 --> 01:08:32.119 show you this character and they don't truly love love 1226 01:08:32.439 --> 01:08:33.199 the individual. 1227 01:08:34.079 --> 01:08:35.920 As a sixteen year old, she was forced to get 1228 01:08:35.960 --> 01:08:39.119 a restraining order against Jeff Dean Turner my bull name 1229 01:08:39.199 --> 01:08:39.560 in there. 1230 01:08:40.800 --> 01:08:43.159 Don't think you might need a sink some counseling. 1231 01:08:43.920 --> 01:08:46.920 I might ask nothing like a stalker to laugh about 1232 01:08:46.960 --> 01:08:47.560 the court. 1233 01:08:49.239 --> 01:08:54.159 God, but I mean, don't autistic people. It's like they 1234 01:08:54.319 --> 01:08:57.039 just say whatever they know, like they have no reason 1235 01:08:57.159 --> 01:08:58.760 to like make stuff up. 1236 01:08:59.760 --> 01:09:01.720 That's what I'm saying. This dude's clearly got autism. You 1237 01:09:01.720 --> 01:09:03.039 have to understand that what I'm saying, I'm willing to 1238 01:09:03.079 --> 01:09:04.840 throw the baby out with the batsup because the stuff 1239 01:09:04.880 --> 01:09:06.800 he says about Tuesday Weld and even some of the 1240 01:09:06.840 --> 01:09:09.760 stuff he says about Tiffany checks out she is from 1241 01:09:09.800 --> 01:09:10.720 this weird family. 1242 01:09:11.000 --> 01:09:14.640 Right, Well, so this is this is kind of on 1243 01:09:14.840 --> 01:09:17.840 point and kind of off point. But have you guys 1244 01:09:17.920 --> 01:09:21.239 watched like Love Spectrum on Netflix? 1245 01:09:22.960 --> 01:09:23.239 You have? 1246 01:09:23.640 --> 01:09:25.399 Yes? 1247 01:09:26.479 --> 01:09:30.319 Okay, So I really was unfamiliar with how autistic people 1248 01:09:30.359 --> 01:09:33.199 could be until I watched that show. And they don't. 1249 01:09:33.399 --> 01:09:33.800 They don't. 1250 01:09:33.920 --> 01:09:36.880 They're not big into lying. They will literally tell you 1251 01:09:37.119 --> 01:09:40.039 all about your fucking self and like they'll be like, 1252 01:09:40.079 --> 01:09:43.720 I don't even do I want to go, right, I go. 1253 01:09:43.760 --> 01:09:49.159 On a date with you? Right, They'll just say some 1254 01:09:49.319 --> 01:09:51.760 off the wall shit that is absolutely accurate and honest, 1255 01:09:51.800 --> 01:09:53.920 but it's not exactly socially appropriate. 1256 01:09:54.720 --> 01:09:56.880 So that's what I'm saying, is like, yeah, okay, this 1257 01:09:56.960 --> 01:09:59.640 guy's autistic, whatever you want to say about him. He's 1258 01:09:59.640 --> 01:10:03.119 got a weird obsession with Tiffany, which, by the way, 1259 01:10:03.159 --> 01:10:04.920 I'm starting to figure out a lot of people with 1260 01:10:05.000 --> 01:10:09.439 autism fixate on things that are just like weird obsessions 1261 01:10:09.520 --> 01:10:13.560 about like dinosaurs and like star Wars or whatever. 1262 01:10:14.640 --> 01:10:16.920 His weird obsession was Tuesday Wild, So he would go 1263 01:10:17.000 --> 01:10:19.239 to the Many. He would go to the set of 1264 01:10:19.319 --> 01:10:21.520 The Many Lives of Debbie Gillis, much like he was stalking, 1265 01:10:22.199 --> 01:10:24.479 you know, Tiffany as an adult. As a young child, 1266 01:10:24.560 --> 01:10:27.479 his parents were taking him to go see Tuesday Will See. 1267 01:10:27.800 --> 01:10:31.159 That's what I'm saying is they developed these strange interests 1268 01:10:31.399 --> 01:10:34.159 and they like involved themselves with it, but not to 1269 01:10:34.279 --> 01:10:39.479 the degree of like fabricating stuff, right, they just because 1270 01:10:42.000 --> 01:10:45.520 right right, I think, I think, you know, they get 1271 01:10:45.600 --> 01:10:47.840 so obsessed with it. They want to know everything. So 1272 01:10:47.920 --> 01:10:50.479 if there was somebody to ask about this, who would 1273 01:10:50.560 --> 01:10:52.640 know literally all the details, it would be a guy 1274 01:10:52.760 --> 01:10:54.880 like that, right, And. 1275 01:10:54.920 --> 01:10:57.079 It's just so weird to me. After he drops all 1276 01:10:57.159 --> 01:10:59.960 these Tuesday Will details that gets published in Steam Shovel Press, 1277 01:11:00.079 --> 01:11:03.000 some Paranoid Magazine, and some other publications from Adam go Rightley, 1278 01:11:03.039 --> 01:11:06.239 the author who interviewed him, that that film gets made 1279 01:11:06.640 --> 01:11:09.319 immediately thereafter because they got. 1280 01:11:09.359 --> 01:11:10.600 To make him look like a kook. 1281 01:11:11.479 --> 01:11:12.880 Absolutely and put. 1282 01:11:12.840 --> 01:11:18.119 A transvestite Annie Lennox in there. Absolutely what what was 1283 01:11:18.199 --> 01:11:23.239 Annie Lennox was talking about his character the other character 1284 01:11:23.319 --> 01:11:27.960 in there, Yeah, the one that looks like Manson and yeah. 1285 01:11:27.800 --> 01:11:31.159 The Personal Trainer freak show. You know, it's I honestly think, 1286 01:11:31.199 --> 01:11:33.520 if I recall correctly, I looked up and I don't 1287 01:11:33.520 --> 01:11:35.800 think that person's any longer any longer with us, but 1288 01:11:36.079 --> 01:11:37.520 it's it had a lot of problems. They had a 1289 01:11:37.560 --> 01:11:38.399 lot of problems. 1290 01:11:40.319 --> 01:11:40.960 I could tell. 1291 01:11:41.520 --> 01:11:43.119 I still think a lot of I still think a 1292 01:11:43.159 --> 01:11:45.279 lot of stuff that is filmed as in a reality 1293 01:11:45.600 --> 01:11:48.920 type situation is not at all. I think it's all 1294 01:11:49.000 --> 01:11:51.479 still scripted. And it's like, like me and JJ have 1295 01:11:51.520 --> 01:11:53.560 even said this, like these might be people and maybe 1296 01:11:53.560 --> 01:11:56.800 even a perfect example of Tuesday, will this somehow related 1297 01:11:56.840 --> 01:11:59.119 to somebody who are important somehow, either because of a 1298 01:11:59.159 --> 01:12:01.359 club or a family, like here, this is me, you. 1299 01:12:01.359 --> 01:12:01.760 Could do this. 1300 01:12:02.239 --> 01:12:05.000 We got this going mm hmm. And then that's just 1301 01:12:05.119 --> 01:12:07.000 their way of getting in there and getting something to 1302 01:12:07.079 --> 01:12:07.720 do and getting money. 1303 01:12:09.279 --> 01:12:12.439 Well, you know, oh go ahead, JJ, No, I was 1304 01:12:12.439 --> 01:12:15.439 just saying again, I think to this guy's situations, it's 1305 01:12:15.520 --> 01:12:18.000 to some degree he's part of these same families as well. Right, 1306 01:12:18.760 --> 01:12:23.560 So apparently Tephanie's Jeffrey Turner, so he is au test 1307 01:12:23.640 --> 01:12:25.399 he has you know, I think he's just born into 1308 01:12:25.399 --> 01:12:27.239 a system where they couldn't use the guy for anything else, 1309 01:12:27.279 --> 01:12:29.039 and he just he just seemed to take take notice 1310 01:12:29.039 --> 01:12:30.760 of everything going on around him. That's kind of the 1311 01:12:30.760 --> 01:12:32.680 way that's kind of way I took his situation. 1312 01:12:33.600 --> 01:12:35.760 Well, yeah, because I mean, if you look at some 1313 01:12:35.920 --> 01:12:39.119 of even the people who came out in the sixties, 1314 01:12:40.920 --> 01:12:44.199 some of them weren't even like very talented, but they 1315 01:12:44.279 --> 01:12:45.880 became huge megastars. 1316 01:12:46.359 --> 01:12:49.279 And most were not talented, you know what I'm saying then. 1317 01:12:49.319 --> 01:12:52.159 Right, Like, sure there were some that could sing and 1318 01:12:52.239 --> 01:12:55.000 play instruments, but like for the majority, was like, is 1319 01:12:55.079 --> 01:12:58.279 this even good? But they made it good. They made 1320 01:12:58.319 --> 01:13:00.399 it so popular that you think that it's good. 1321 01:13:00.800 --> 01:13:03.319 You know who made it good? People like Phil Processed, 1322 01:13:03.359 --> 01:13:07.239 Phil Spector and Process, Bob Cocaine Evans. You know, these 1323 01:13:07.239 --> 01:13:09.880 are the people running the music in the movies in 1324 01:13:09.920 --> 01:13:11.960 Hollywood at the time, right the Laurel Canyon scene, that's 1325 01:13:12.000 --> 01:13:14.239 all Phil Spector, you know, right. 1326 01:13:14.760 --> 01:13:19.000 I just you know, I've listened to like Crosby Still 1327 01:13:19.399 --> 01:13:22.359 Nash and the Birds and like all these people, and 1328 01:13:22.439 --> 01:13:29.159 I'm like, they're not extraordinarily talented, you know, vocally or 1329 01:13:30.399 --> 01:13:33.039 I mean, there was some really cool songs that came 1330 01:13:33.079 --> 01:13:35.520 out during that decade. That's why I love it so much. 1331 01:13:35.640 --> 01:13:38.760 But I don't know, it was just like, you know, 1332 01:13:38.880 --> 01:13:42.800 they're all their families are military or like real high 1333 01:13:42.880 --> 01:13:45.800 up and it's like, Okay, you're gonna sing. Now, you're 1334 01:13:45.880 --> 01:13:48.479 gonna do this, now, you're gonna be exactly. 1335 01:13:48.319 --> 01:13:53.560 Now, exactly so Turners. Turner's father and stepfather were fighter 1336 01:13:53.640 --> 01:13:57.680 pilots near and apparently Tiffany has some relations to that 1337 01:13:57.760 --> 01:13:59.000 same group of fighter pilots. 1338 01:14:00.119 --> 01:14:04.039 God, yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Though, It's like 1339 01:14:04.119 --> 01:14:07.199 they don't even have to really be that talented as 1340 01:14:07.279 --> 01:14:08.880 long as their family was someone. 1341 01:14:09.600 --> 01:14:11.479 Well, let's be honest with Tiffany talented. She may be 1342 01:14:11.600 --> 01:14:13.399 more known for her Playboy apparents showing her sits in 1343 01:14:13.399 --> 01:14:17.600 the nineties than her mall hit in the eighties. Yeah, 1344 01:14:18.279 --> 01:14:22.399 no shit, no ship. Right right after that movie was 1345 01:14:22.439 --> 01:14:25.000 made with that I think We're alone. Now documentary this 1346 01:14:25.119 --> 01:14:27.479 guy here in the in the Silicon Valley area, some 1347 01:14:27.680 --> 01:14:31.600 sort of tech blog Metro Silicon Valley interviews Jeffrey Dene 1348 01:14:31.640 --> 01:14:34.319 Turner there, you know, in the aftermath of that film, 1349 01:14:34.760 --> 01:14:36.920 and is obviously roasting him, but he goes over a 1350 01:14:36.960 --> 01:14:38.760 lot of the details that Turner tells him and the 1351 01:14:38.880 --> 01:14:41.439 and their and their lunch they had together, including which 1352 01:14:41.479 --> 01:14:44.239 that that Turner claims that he met Charles Manson in 1353 01:14:44.279 --> 01:14:47.319 the late sixties, but refused to being doctrinated into his family. 1354 01:14:47.359 --> 01:14:49.319 And he also met David Berkowitz, the son of same 1355 01:14:49.479 --> 01:14:51.960 serial killer, when he used to haunt in the South 1356 01:14:52.039 --> 01:14:54.800 Bay in the seventies. Makes a lot of sense. Mouth 1357 01:14:54.880 --> 01:14:58.720 makes a lot of sense. Oh my god, all process stuff, 1358 01:14:58.720 --> 01:14:59.920 It's certainly possible in my opinion. 1359 01:15:00.600 --> 01:15:03.920 I wanted to shout out somebody I saw in the comments, Tara, 1360 01:15:04.680 --> 01:15:08.840 what's up girl? Thank you so much. I appreciate you. 1361 01:15:11.039 --> 01:15:15.680 But you know, the son of Sam thing, if you 1362 01:15:15.760 --> 01:15:18.800 really look into it, you and I did program to 1363 01:15:18.960 --> 01:15:23.520 kill on occult rejects before, and he's in there, and 1364 01:15:23.960 --> 01:15:28.359 you know, it's it's like he can't even he can't 1365 01:15:28.399 --> 01:15:30.560 even be placed at the scene for some of the 1366 01:15:30.920 --> 01:15:34.640 murders that he went down for, and yet he gets 1367 01:15:34.760 --> 01:15:37.880 blamed for everything. And he tried to say, like, there's 1368 01:15:37.920 --> 01:15:41.880 a much bigger thing going on. There's multiple layers. This 1369 01:15:42.119 --> 01:15:46.359 is this is like, I mean, is it process? 1370 01:15:47.880 --> 01:15:50.159 Okay, Yeah, I got it. I have another show coming 1371 01:15:50.199 --> 01:15:52.239 up on Wednesday night talking precisely this on the same 1372 01:15:52.279 --> 01:15:55.680 in the process with author Jonathan Mitchell. 1373 01:15:56.560 --> 01:15:58.319 So you know what I'm talking about. Then that he 1374 01:15:58.439 --> 01:16:01.720 said like, hey, this is way big thing. Oh for sure, 1375 01:16:01.880 --> 01:16:06.039 not just me. I didn't do all this. I'm so. 1376 01:16:06.520 --> 01:16:08.920 I mean, you signed a memorandum stating all that nineteen 1377 01:16:08.960 --> 01:16:11.239 ninety six and witness not only by Mary Terry, the 1378 01:16:11.279 --> 01:16:13.960 author of Ultimate Evil, but there's another party whose names 1379 01:16:14.039 --> 01:16:17.279 escaping me. He's also signed there. He names people like 1380 01:16:17.399 --> 01:16:19.640 Roy Cone, donald Trump's mentors, being a member of the. 1381 01:16:19.640 --> 01:16:20.159 P knew it. 1382 01:16:20.680 --> 01:16:22.239 I knew it, dude. 1383 01:16:23.279 --> 01:16:24.079 Something off with that. 1384 01:16:25.720 --> 01:16:26.319 Roy Cone. 1385 01:16:26.439 --> 01:16:28.760 Yeah, you you and and you and I think maybe 1386 01:16:28.840 --> 01:16:30.640 JJ both have brought his name up multiple thoughts. 1387 01:16:31.159 --> 01:16:35.079 Oh, I talked about that is a piece of shit. 1388 01:16:35.960 --> 01:16:38.000 And it's like it's, like I said before, I think 1389 01:16:38.079 --> 01:16:40.319 maybe it was in the Program to Kill episode. But 1390 01:16:41.000 --> 01:16:44.560 it's like, all right, we're gonna take all of these 1391 01:16:44.640 --> 01:16:47.840 people that Donald Trump knows that are like his mentors 1392 01:16:47.920 --> 01:16:53.760 and stuff, people like Roy Khne and and they're known 1393 01:16:53.960 --> 01:16:57.319 to be pieces of shit, and we're just gonna disregard 1394 01:16:57.399 --> 01:17:01.720 that they have any connection to each other. Why is that? Like, 1395 01:17:01.880 --> 01:17:02.920 I don't understand it. 1396 01:17:04.399 --> 01:17:06.279 I don't know. I guess that's sometimes I wonder if 1397 01:17:06.319 --> 01:17:10.319 that's like part of the magic in itself. I think, well, 1398 01:17:10.359 --> 01:17:13.399 it's it's almost as if like I think, you know, 1399 01:17:13.399 --> 01:17:15.640 I've heard somebody say that they they think they saw 1400 01:17:15.720 --> 01:17:18.399 this happen with I can't remember, some some kind of newscaster, 1401 01:17:18.640 --> 01:17:21.920 but like people like start to almost kind of build 1402 01:17:22.000 --> 01:17:24.560 like some false relationship with this person and almost start 1403 01:17:24.600 --> 01:17:27.000 having feelings for them even though they've never met. And 1404 01:17:27.159 --> 01:17:29.760 it's so hard to believe something bad about someone after that. 1405 01:17:30.520 --> 01:17:32.359 And if you look at a lot of Trump supporters, 1406 01:17:32.399 --> 01:17:34.399 they're they're infatuated with the guy. 1407 01:17:35.159 --> 01:17:37.359 Well, they think he's like a messiah or something. 1408 01:17:37.520 --> 01:17:41.119 So it's so hard to After that guy came out 1409 01:17:41.159 --> 01:17:43.359 on what was it, day day two and started talking 1410 01:17:43.359 --> 01:17:46.920 about the vaccines, I don't know how most Trump supporters 1411 01:17:46.960 --> 01:17:47.359 weren't like. 1412 01:17:47.359 --> 01:17:53.520 What the fuck dude with one hundred with them, and 1413 01:17:53.640 --> 01:17:58.520 it's like it's like he's best he's with or was 1414 01:18:00.359 --> 01:18:04.800 besties with Epstein. Right, we're gonna forget that one too, 1415 01:18:04.920 --> 01:18:09.000 I guess, even though there's pictures of him together. You know, 1416 01:18:09.159 --> 01:18:12.479 we're gonna forget about Roy JJ. Youre muted. 1417 01:18:14.239 --> 01:18:15.319 Epstein? Never heard of him? 1418 01:18:16.439 --> 01:18:18.479 Oh right, you're right, never heard of him, never heard, 1419 01:18:18.560 --> 01:18:21.359 never heard of him. I guess that's, like I said, 1420 01:18:21.479 --> 01:18:25.039 that's another one that they want you to forget about. 1421 01:18:25.119 --> 01:18:28.159 But this Roy Cohne guy. Oh my god, JJ, you 1422 01:18:28.279 --> 01:18:32.880 gotta tell Nick more about him sometime. He's he's literally like, 1423 01:18:33.600 --> 01:18:36.800 wasn't he the one with the Violet scandal or whatever? 1424 01:18:37.880 --> 01:18:39.840 Yeah, we did it, we did. Uh, we're gonna we're 1425 01:18:39.840 --> 01:18:41.439 gonna do some more on I think, but we did 1426 01:18:41.479 --> 01:18:43.600 it on the last one of the Mormons and uh 1427 01:18:44.760 --> 01:18:46.239 with the Heidi Love We did a whole series of 1428 01:18:46.319 --> 01:18:50.239 Mormons and parapolitics. And Roy Cone comes into play because 1429 01:18:50.239 --> 01:18:53.199 he's on the board of Perman Decks and that JFK 1430 01:18:53.359 --> 01:18:55.960 situation along along with the Clay Shaw, the man that 1431 01:18:56.039 --> 01:19:01.760 Jim Garrison charged, and the and Joseph Banano, the head 1432 01:19:01.800 --> 01:19:03.840 of the Five Families. He was the head of Banana family, 1433 01:19:03.880 --> 01:19:04.920 but he was the head of the board of the 1434 01:19:05.000 --> 01:19:07.520 Five Families at the time in New York City. They're 1435 01:19:07.520 --> 01:19:11.479 all sitting on this weird multinational corporation board that's in 1436 01:19:11.600 --> 01:19:14.640 charge of American presidents. Like they try to mark the 1437 01:19:14.680 --> 01:19:15.680 French president twice. 1438 01:19:16.720 --> 01:19:21.199 M Yeah, and he was wasn't he doing something around 1439 01:19:21.239 --> 01:19:23.680 the time like the Franklin scandal was going on where 1440 01:19:23.720 --> 01:19:26.159 they were bringing little boys to the White House and stuff. 1441 01:19:26.720 --> 01:19:28.199 That was Roy Cohne's time. 1442 01:19:29.199 --> 01:19:31.000 I think he was. He was dead at that time. 1443 01:19:31.039 --> 01:19:33.439 I think he's like he I think he died just 1444 01:19:33.479 --> 01:19:34.840 prior to the Franklin I mean he may have been 1445 01:19:35.000 --> 01:19:37.760 involved in the Franklin scandal by all means, I'm I 1446 01:19:37.800 --> 01:19:40.199 wouldn't doubt it. The man was well connected in politics 1447 01:19:40.239 --> 01:19:43.119 and Dedlin. So, but I think he died of age 1448 01:19:43.159 --> 01:19:43.680 in eighty six. 1449 01:19:45.039 --> 01:19:49.119 Well he I remember Paul Banasi saying something about him. 1450 01:19:49.479 --> 01:19:51.520 That's what I'm saying. Yeah, he may he made I 1451 01:19:51.520 --> 01:19:53.399 don't know enough of the details about the Franklin stuff. 1452 01:19:53.439 --> 01:19:54.840 He may very well come up with that. He because 1453 01:19:54.840 --> 01:19:57.439 obviously the Franklin scandal may got out in the eighties, 1454 01:19:57.439 --> 01:19:59.399 but it was obviously going on a lot longer than that, right. 1455 01:19:59.520 --> 01:20:01.600 Yep, yep, yep, yep. It went all the way into 1456 01:20:01.680 --> 01:20:03.760 the nineties with that civil trial. 1457 01:20:04.560 --> 01:20:04.720 Right. 1458 01:20:05.560 --> 01:20:10.560 So, But anyways, that's besides the point. Roy Cone knows 1459 01:20:11.520 --> 01:20:12.479 the son of Sam. 1460 01:20:13.840 --> 01:20:15.560 Oh. Yeah, he claimed to meet him and gone to 1461 01:20:15.600 --> 01:20:17.359 his parties. They all hung out to the Studio fifty 1462 01:20:17.359 --> 01:20:20.199 four together. So another member of the colt was allegedly 1463 01:20:20.279 --> 01:20:24.399 an aid to the mayor Abe Beam. That man was 1464 01:20:24.479 --> 01:20:28.079 also that was he left that job and became Roy 1465 01:20:28.159 --> 01:20:31.640 Cone's law partner in the late seventies. There their clients 1466 01:20:31.680 --> 01:20:34.600 were the Studio fifty four owners, that's what. 1467 01:20:35.279 --> 01:20:37.359 And then he went on to be Trump's mentor. 1468 01:20:39.640 --> 01:20:42.199 Oh, he's already to mentor at this point he meets 1469 01:20:42.239 --> 01:20:46.640 Trump in nineteen seventy three, Roger Stone introduces the two 1470 01:20:47.039 --> 01:20:49.119 Roger Stone just meets Trump. He says, Hey, you got 1471 01:20:49.199 --> 01:20:52.359 to meet my friend Roy Cone. So Donald had just 1472 01:20:52.479 --> 01:20:56.640 hired him in seventy minutes, crazy seventy eight. I think 1473 01:20:56.680 --> 01:20:58.359 it's seventy eight. You can find a picture of it. 1474 01:20:58.439 --> 01:21:03.680 It's called It's called Roy cones fifty second birthday party 1475 01:21:03.720 --> 01:21:06.239 at Studio fifty four. It was a vandy fair article 1476 01:21:06.279 --> 01:21:09.119 and stuff. Roy Cones got like on a little leash, 1477 01:21:09.239 --> 01:21:11.239 like a little cross dressing Donald Trump right next to 1478 01:21:11.319 --> 01:21:14.000 him there at his party. You think Donald's twenty eight. 1479 01:21:14.159 --> 01:21:17.000 You have that picture he just hired. I'll find it. 1480 01:21:17.079 --> 01:21:19.199 He just hires Roy Cone as his attorney for this 1481 01:21:19.279 --> 01:21:22.439 building he's purchasing, and then Roy's having his birthday party 1482 01:21:22.479 --> 01:21:24.880 at the club where his other clients he's representing in 1483 01:21:24.920 --> 01:21:27.880 some coke trafficking, the Studio fifty four owners. You know, 1484 01:21:29.119 --> 01:21:31.560 that was basically so according to Burkewitz, Studio fifty four 1485 01:21:31.640 --> 01:21:33.760 was essentially the processed church hangout. 1486 01:21:34.880 --> 01:21:38.319 So he's hanging out, So Roy is hanging out with 1487 01:21:38.520 --> 01:21:42.439 the son of Sam Berkowitz and Trump cross dressed on 1488 01:21:42.560 --> 01:21:45.680 a leash all during the same time. 1489 01:21:45.800 --> 01:21:47.800 Absolutely, yes, ma'am, Yes, ma'am. I like to look at 1490 01:21:47.880 --> 01:21:51.680 it like this that somewhere around Sirra nineteen seventies seventy seven, 1491 01:21:51.800 --> 01:21:54.760 you may have, in fact had Donald Trump, Roy Cone, 1492 01:21:55.159 --> 01:21:59.119 David Berkowitz, and Michael Jackson moonwalking around the dance floor 1493 01:21:59.119 --> 01:22:00.279 of Studio fifty four together. 1494 01:22:00.399 --> 01:22:06.760 I can't shut the fuck absolutely up. Oh my god, 1495 01:22:07.560 --> 01:22:10.840 they were all there. This is why, this is why 1496 01:22:10.920 --> 01:22:15.920 I can't get on board with any politics whatsoever. It's 1497 01:22:16.039 --> 01:22:20.119 like you literally, you literally cannot choose a team when 1498 01:22:20.159 --> 01:22:22.560 it comes to this stuff because they're all just cross 1499 01:22:22.720 --> 01:22:27.439 dressing processed church members exactly. 1500 01:22:27.560 --> 01:22:30.079 Oh, this is this is the article about. But the 1501 01:22:30.159 --> 01:22:32.439 birthday boy Roy Cone is fifty two. At fifty four, 1502 01:22:32.880 --> 01:22:35.319 I'll de find the picture. But in this article you'll 1503 01:22:35.319 --> 01:22:37.720 see another person who I like to who's got connections 1504 01:22:37.720 --> 01:22:39.600 to the nextium cult, or as I like to call them, 1505 01:22:39.960 --> 01:22:43.479 the Albany chapter of the Processed Church, and that is 1506 01:22:44.920 --> 01:22:46.640 here at roy k They go over all the people 1507 01:22:46.680 --> 01:22:48.439 to show up here at Roy Cone's birthday party, and 1508 01:22:48.800 --> 01:22:51.359 I'll go over. Donald Trump has listened here too. But 1509 01:22:51.840 --> 01:22:54.640 you got mob figures, you got, you know, mayors, you 1510 01:22:54.760 --> 01:22:57.920 got you know, you got judges you know what I mean, 1511 01:22:58.000 --> 01:23:00.359 District court judges, you know what I mean. And then 1512 01:23:00.399 --> 01:23:07.800 you scroll down here and you see, uh, Chuck Schumer junior. Wow, newcomer, 1513 01:23:07.920 --> 01:23:10.960 Chuck Schumer, a reform assemblyman from Brooklyn. He's not even 1514 01:23:11.000 --> 01:23:13.119 he's not even US Congress yet. This is he's assembly 1515 01:23:13.239 --> 01:23:15.880 man from Brooklyn. Why he was just the date of 1516 01:23:15.920 --> 01:23:17.319 a gossip columnist. 1517 01:23:18.680 --> 01:23:18.840 Off. 1518 01:23:19.399 --> 01:23:21.000 He sucked him off and became. 1519 01:23:22.600 --> 01:23:24.479 I would argue, is the reason why he's connected to 1520 01:23:24.479 --> 01:23:26.159 the next to him stuff now is because he was 1521 01:23:26.159 --> 01:23:28.479 connected to the process stuff back then and. 1522 01:23:28.600 --> 01:23:30.079 He was sucking dudes off. 1523 01:23:30.239 --> 01:23:38.239 I'm telling you, I think that's you not accept that 1524 01:23:38.319 --> 01:23:40.239 going in the door? I think, right, right? 1525 01:23:40.880 --> 01:23:44.319 Have you guys ever watched Adventures and Babysitting and it's 1526 01:23:44.359 --> 01:23:48.319 like you, nobody leaves his place without singing the blues, well, 1527 01:23:50.159 --> 01:23:54.439 without sucking the dick. So that's right, Hey, wasn't that 1528 01:23:54.600 --> 01:23:57.239 Chuck Berry in that that said that nobody gets out 1529 01:23:57.239 --> 01:23:59.119 of here without singing the blues? That was Chuck Berry? 1530 01:23:59.800 --> 01:24:03.880 Was that really Chuck? Very holy? Shiite? So long, Erry, Yeah, 1531 01:24:04.439 --> 01:24:07.439 so long? Is that around the same time he was filming, 1532 01:24:07.560 --> 01:24:10.000 he was filming prostitutes to fart in his mouth? Oh 1533 01:24:10.199 --> 01:24:13.760 come on, Yeah. When they raided they raided his house 1534 01:24:13.840 --> 01:24:15.680 in the late nineties, early I think it was late nineties. 1535 01:24:16.039 --> 01:24:18.520 He had installed cameras and all these KFC's and Taco 1536 01:24:18.600 --> 01:24:21.680 bells across the Midwest that he owned in women's toilets, 1537 01:24:22.319 --> 01:24:24.479 and he got in The Feds rated the restaurants in 1538 01:24:24.600 --> 01:24:26.880 his house about that. When they raided his house, the 1539 01:24:26.960 --> 01:24:30.199 FED seized a box of videos of him recording himself 1540 01:24:30.279 --> 01:24:33.279 hiring hookers just to fart in their mouths, and he, uh, 1541 01:24:33.760 --> 01:24:35.520 the Feds released this. The reason why this came out 1542 01:24:35.560 --> 01:24:37.239 somebody leaked into the tabloids, you know what I mean, 1543 01:24:37.359 --> 01:24:38.399 So like, oh my. 1544 01:24:38.560 --> 01:24:41.479 God, nobody gets out of this taco bell without farting 1545 01:24:41.560 --> 01:24:42.119 in my mouth. 1546 01:24:42.760 --> 01:24:43.119 Yeah. 1547 01:24:47.600 --> 01:24:51.079 Yeah. But he'd already been a convicted, you know, child 1548 01:24:51.119 --> 01:24:53.840 sexophone in remain Act decades prior when he got busted 1549 01:24:53.880 --> 01:24:57.680 for filming women in bathroom, toilets, that of restaurants he owned. 1550 01:24:59.039 --> 01:25:05.720 I got belt Jack Barry, Yeah right, Taco Bell places. JJ. 1551 01:25:05.840 --> 01:25:07.359 This might be the picture. I'm gonna throw it up 1552 01:25:07.359 --> 01:25:07.920 on the screens. 1553 01:25:08.239 --> 01:25:08.760 Yeah, you got it. 1554 01:25:08.800 --> 01:25:10.479 I was looking for this is it? 1555 01:25:12.079 --> 01:25:14.520 That's it? Eight year old Donald Trump. 1556 01:25:15.359 --> 01:25:20.560 Oh my god, it's just like and uh, you know 1557 01:25:20.640 --> 01:25:22.800 they'd got they dressed him up as a girl too. 1558 01:25:23.920 --> 01:25:27.319 Yep. So, according according to this article about that party 1559 01:25:27.399 --> 01:25:30.439 right there, Trump has just hired Roy Cone to be 1560 01:25:30.520 --> 01:25:35.319 his attorneys. Well that again, that's you can probably do 1561 01:25:35.399 --> 01:25:37.000 that in the in the coat room before you can 1562 01:25:37.000 --> 01:25:40.439 get into the actual place. The crowd from my recent 1563 01:25:40.560 --> 01:25:42.920 voice series was their thirty two year old developer of 1564 01:25:42.960 --> 01:25:45.720 the Commodore Hotel and the Convention Center, Donald Trump. So 1565 01:25:46.319 --> 01:25:49.119 he had just right prior to this photograph, he had 1566 01:25:49.239 --> 01:25:51.800 just hired Roy Cone as his attorney. But he'd known 1567 01:25:51.880 --> 01:25:53.880 Roy for about six years, about five years. 1568 01:25:55.640 --> 01:25:57.920 That's how that's why he knew to show up to 1569 01:25:58.000 --> 01:25:59.319 the party in full drag. 1570 01:26:00.039 --> 01:26:02.560 He's like, yeah, some folks, if you have some folks, 1571 01:26:02.560 --> 01:26:04.199 there's some folks in the Son of Sam community. I'm 1572 01:26:04.199 --> 01:26:06.199 not one of them, but there's there are some folks 1573 01:26:06.239 --> 01:26:07.760 in the Son of Sam community. That think one of 1574 01:26:07.800 --> 01:26:11.760 the sketches of the shooters looks a lot like Donald Trump. Oh, 1575 01:26:13.319 --> 01:26:15.000 it would have been about twenty six at the time. 1576 01:26:15.720 --> 01:26:21.239 Woww yes, yes, you know. My somebody in my family 1577 01:26:21.319 --> 01:26:23.199 the other day they sent me this hoodie. They were like, 1578 01:26:23.279 --> 01:26:25.399 oh my god, I gotta get this. And it was 1579 01:26:25.479 --> 01:26:27.880 a picture of Donald Trump in front of the White 1580 01:26:27.920 --> 01:26:30.600 House and it said Daddy's Home. And I was like, 1581 01:26:30.800 --> 01:26:33.600 I'm just gonna kill myself if I see another thing 1582 01:26:33.800 --> 01:26:36.720 like this. I mean, it's just so yeah, Daddy's home 1583 01:26:36.880 --> 01:26:41.840 to suck Dixon the White House, ye know, right, look 1584 01:26:41.880 --> 01:26:47.239 at this stuff at it. He probably flirted in his 1585 01:26:47.439 --> 01:26:48.520 mouth right after this. 1586 01:26:48.600 --> 01:26:53.199 Picture mistaken, So he would have been twenty five at 1587 01:26:53.239 --> 01:26:55.159 the time of this sketch. Right here, I believe. 1588 01:26:55.520 --> 01:26:57.399 Trump was yelling drill, Baby, drill. 1589 01:27:00.800 --> 01:27:04.119 But here here's the here's the Son of Sam sketch. 1590 01:27:04.159 --> 01:27:06.239 Shooter sketch looks a lot like Donald Trump. 1591 01:27:08.079 --> 01:27:09.279 With or without drag. 1592 01:27:11.119 --> 01:27:12.600 This would have been a couple years pre drag. This 1593 01:27:12.640 --> 01:27:14.279 has been seventy six. That was seventy nine. 1594 01:27:14.399 --> 01:27:19.000 Oh my god, look at that. It looks like freaking 1595 01:27:19.800 --> 01:27:23.840 what's his son's name Baron, Baron, look at that picture. 1596 01:27:24.920 --> 01:27:28.079 That's the young you know young right there. 1597 01:27:28.640 --> 01:27:30.680 I suppose the circumstantial argument could be made he did 1598 01:27:31.079 --> 01:27:33.279 know Roy Cohen, who Burkowitz claimed was a member of 1599 01:27:33.279 --> 01:27:35.359 the process. But now I have never seen anything that 1600 01:27:35.399 --> 01:27:37.319 claimed burkowitzknew Donald Trump or claimed he was one of 1601 01:27:37.319 --> 01:27:39.920 the shooters. He's identified all of these shooters as somebody else. 1602 01:27:40.000 --> 01:27:42.079 But there is, you know, there is this sketch that 1603 01:27:42.119 --> 01:27:43.760 people like this. You know, hey, what is Why does 1604 01:27:43.800 --> 01:27:45.840 this look like him? Why? 1605 01:27:46.199 --> 01:27:52.359 Literally, why does it look like him? Damn, that is 1606 01:27:52.560 --> 01:27:54.720 got to be him. I don't care what anybody says. 1607 01:27:54.760 --> 01:27:58.079 That looks just like if you well, like, because I've 1608 01:27:58.159 --> 01:28:02.279 studied the zoopiac and they have like the zodiac composite sketch, 1609 01:28:02.359 --> 01:28:05.000 and every single person they try to put next to 1610 01:28:05.079 --> 01:28:07.079 it and say, oh, this was the zodiac, this was 1611 01:28:07.119 --> 01:28:09.640 the Zodiac. I'm like, dude, that looks nothing like the 1612 01:28:09.760 --> 01:28:13.920 composite sketch. I would know that Trump without even seeing 1613 01:28:13.960 --> 01:28:16.640 the side by side like that looks uncay and he 1614 01:28:16.680 --> 01:28:17.239 as fun you know. 1615 01:28:17.239 --> 01:28:19.239 It's funny. The hair even fits him. Today's still the 1616 01:28:19.279 --> 01:28:21.479 way how it's like very sometimes thick on one side 1617 01:28:22.800 --> 01:28:23.880 and the weird eyebrow. 1618 01:28:25.119 --> 01:28:26.760 Yeah, I'm trying to find a picture. I'm at that time. 1619 01:28:26.840 --> 01:28:28.279 I can't find a picture by the age of twenty 1620 01:28:28.319 --> 01:28:29.199 five or twenty six. 1621 01:28:29.880 --> 01:28:31.800 Like one of them sticks up way more than the 1622 01:28:31.840 --> 01:28:45.319 other one. That's crazy, dead Dead River for real, for real? Yes, 1623 01:28:48.000 --> 01:28:48.600 oh thank you? 1624 01:28:51.439 --> 01:28:54.319 Yeah mean it does have bear resemblance. There's no question. 1625 01:28:55.239 --> 01:28:59.520 I mean, you just blew my entire mind. Because I've 1626 01:28:59.560 --> 01:29:03.199 talked about Roy Cohane for the last like year now, 1627 01:29:03.640 --> 01:29:06.640 since I read The pet the I covered it in 1628 01:29:06.720 --> 01:29:09.640 the Pedophocracy series, but since I read Program to Kill 1629 01:29:10.039 --> 01:29:13.600 and I found out about him and his connection to Trump, 1630 01:29:13.720 --> 01:29:16.119 I've been talking about him, and I'm like, people need 1631 01:29:16.199 --> 01:29:19.640 a look into this guy because he's fucked up. But 1632 01:29:20.159 --> 01:29:23.479 I didn't note to the to the degree cross dressing 1633 01:29:23.600 --> 01:29:26.880 and shit like that. Son of Sam Processed Church. 1634 01:29:27.000 --> 01:29:30.319 Oh my god, I don't think. I don't think Donald 1635 01:29:30.359 --> 01:29:32.560 Trump knew Tuesday well, but he definitely knew her cousin 1636 01:29:32.640 --> 01:29:33.079 Bill Weld. 1637 01:29:33.760 --> 01:29:37.960 Mmmm, you know the politicians crazy? 1638 01:29:38.439 --> 01:29:41.000 I wonder Bill Weld ran againstm Right in twenty sixteen. 1639 01:29:41.079 --> 01:29:44.960 Right he was, He was the Libertarian Party's VP against Trump. 1640 01:29:45.000 --> 01:29:46.119 A twenty sixteen Bill Weld. 1641 01:29:47.119 --> 01:29:49.359 Can you find a recent picture of her? I feel 1642 01:29:49.399 --> 01:29:51.439 like that would be a good way to sum everything up. 1643 01:29:51.439 --> 01:29:53.039 I just wonder what she lives like now. 1644 01:29:53.439 --> 01:29:58.800 Yeah, she's actually aged decently, you know, as far as 1645 01:29:58.960 --> 01:30:01.560 you know comparison, like you were saying Marilyn Monroe and 1646 01:30:01.640 --> 01:30:02.680 Jane Mansfield, I guess. 1647 01:30:02.600 --> 01:30:05.760 Right, Yeah, who died very ritualistically. 1648 01:30:08.119 --> 01:30:11.159 Yeah, Jane Mansfield. Jane Mansfield knew the Sun the same 1649 01:30:11.199 --> 01:30:13.039 cult people, damn it. 1650 01:30:13.720 --> 01:30:14.640 She was also on the. 1651 01:30:16.720 --> 01:30:19.239 Westchester Politician, Westchester County Politician. 1652 01:30:19.600 --> 01:30:20.319 That's nuts. 1653 01:30:20.479 --> 01:30:22.319 She was on She's Buried There. 1654 01:30:24.000 --> 01:30:29.319 The album cover for Magical Mystery Tour. Okay, you know 1655 01:30:29.439 --> 01:30:35.520 the Beatles cover that's got like all different Sergeant Peppers, sorry, 1656 01:30:36.079 --> 01:30:40.279 Sergeant Peppers. She's right there, and she's commonly mistaken to 1657 01:30:40.359 --> 01:30:42.920 be Marilyn Monroe. But it's Jane Jane Mansfield. 1658 01:30:44.479 --> 01:30:47.199 Okay, I know what you're talking about. That's Jane Mansfield, 1659 01:30:47.239 --> 01:30:50.159 not Marilyn Monroe. I wonder if you like Tuesday Weld 1660 01:30:50.199 --> 01:30:50.920 in twenty twenty. 1661 01:30:51.119 --> 01:30:52.880 I wonder if you picked apart all those people, if 1662 01:30:52.880 --> 01:30:55.039 you'd see some sort of commonality. 1663 01:30:54.479 --> 01:30:57.079 Between all you should pull it up because actually I 1664 01:30:57.239 --> 01:30:57.640 have one. 1665 01:31:01.359 --> 01:31:04.199 Oh is that her right there, that's supposedly her in 1666 01:31:04.239 --> 01:31:04.840 twenty twenty. 1667 01:31:05.439 --> 01:31:07.000 She don't look terrible. 1668 01:31:08.279 --> 01:31:09.760 No, that's what I'm saying. She doesn't look you know, 1669 01:31:09.880 --> 01:31:12.239 she's got her hair, you know what I mean, maybe 1670 01:31:12.279 --> 01:31:13.359 have her teeth still, you know. 1671 01:31:13.640 --> 01:31:16.199 Yeah, it looks like her skin is pretty smooth, probably 1672 01:31:16.239 --> 01:31:16.680 from all the. 1673 01:31:16.800 --> 01:31:18.399 Yeah, she doesn't. She doesn't look too much like a 1674 01:31:18.479 --> 01:31:19.079 demon dushy. 1675 01:31:19.800 --> 01:31:23.000 Yeah, she probably got baby Dick's skin injected into her 1676 01:31:23.079 --> 01:31:31.600 face or whatever they do, baby scrot the blood. Yeah yeah, yeah, 1677 01:31:32.439 --> 01:31:35.079 all like creams and ointments. They reb on each other's 1678 01:31:35.119 --> 01:31:41.039 bee holes, right, but yeah, no, Nick, pull up that 1679 01:31:41.199 --> 01:31:44.760 cover because I actually I feel like this is the 1680 01:31:44.880 --> 01:31:47.760 cover that people talk about was like one of the 1681 01:31:48.119 --> 01:31:52.439 major signals that the old Paul had died and was 1682 01:31:52.520 --> 01:31:55.119 replaced by the new Paul. And if you really look 1683 01:31:55.199 --> 01:31:58.359 at it, there are so many things in there, even 1684 01:31:58.439 --> 01:32:01.479 beside Jane's Jane Ansfield, which she was killed in a 1685 01:32:01.560 --> 01:32:04.800 car act, the same way that they say the old 1686 01:32:04.920 --> 01:32:10.640 Paul was killed in a car act. Sure, so right, 1687 01:32:12.600 --> 01:32:15.119 I do feel like that's significant because if you were 1688 01:32:15.159 --> 01:32:17.920 going to put somebody on there and everybody mistakes it 1689 01:32:18.000 --> 01:32:20.920 as being Marilyn Monroe, but it's like they both the 1690 01:32:21.039 --> 01:32:25.840 old Paul supposedly and Jane Mansfield died in like horrific 1691 01:32:25.960 --> 01:32:26.800 car accidents. 1692 01:32:27.439 --> 01:32:29.520 Oh, that's definitely, that's definitely a different Paul. There's no 1693 01:32:29.600 --> 01:32:30.520 way that's the same Paul. 1694 01:32:30.800 --> 01:32:38.399 Yeah, to me, it's not. It's if you look. If 1695 01:32:38.479 --> 01:32:43.199 you look, it's like the new Beatles are burying the dead. 1696 01:32:43.479 --> 01:32:45.680 See if you look at the original Beatles, it's like 1697 01:32:45.720 --> 01:32:48.199 they're all sad and they're mourning and they're looking at 1698 01:32:48.239 --> 01:32:52.279 the grave. And then it's like a super tall Paul 1699 01:32:52.800 --> 01:32:55.600 in blue that's way taller than the Paul over here, 1700 01:32:55.800 --> 01:32:58.439 because he was supposedly like six inches taller than the 1701 01:32:58.560 --> 01:33:04.399 old Paul. And they definitely you can see that. And 1702 01:33:04.520 --> 01:33:08.319 then they have right over there Jane Mansfield front and uh, 1703 01:33:08.720 --> 01:33:12.600 she's right in the very front row, commonly mistaken for 1704 01:33:12.720 --> 01:33:16.840 Marilyn Monroe and the gold dress. There's also I think 1705 01:33:17.439 --> 01:33:24.479 Edgar Allan Poe he died weird. Uh, there's Alistair Crowley 1706 01:33:24.640 --> 01:33:24.840 in the. 1707 01:33:24.920 --> 01:33:28.000 Back Carl Marks yep. 1708 01:33:28.760 --> 01:33:31.960 If you I don't know, so, I guess it would 1709 01:33:32.000 --> 01:33:37.359 be my top left. You can see Alistair Crowley right. 1710 01:33:37.399 --> 01:33:42.399 There isn't Hitler in here somewhere too. I feel like. 1711 01:33:44.239 --> 01:33:46.600 Marlon Brando mm hmmm. 1712 01:33:46.920 --> 01:33:50.359 I mean Marylyn Marilyn Monroe is in there. She's in 1713 01:33:50.479 --> 01:33:56.439 black and white. Yeah, yeah, but she's not the center 1714 01:33:56.479 --> 01:34:00.880 of attention, not like Jane over here for sure. And uh, 1715 01:34:00.920 --> 01:34:05.920 they're standing at a grave, which I've always thought was significant, 1716 01:34:06.000 --> 01:34:07.880 Like why are they standing at a grave with the 1717 01:34:08.000 --> 01:34:16.079 old Beetles like sad and crying and shit? Right, I 1718 01:34:16.239 --> 01:34:19.560 just I don't know. There's something about the little girl 1719 01:34:20.119 --> 01:34:22.960 in the chair too, with the red and white striped 1720 01:34:23.079 --> 01:34:27.600 shirt on right there. Yeah, yeah, there's something about that too. Oh, 1721 01:34:27.760 --> 01:34:29.880 I wish I could go back. I did an episode 1722 01:34:29.960 --> 01:34:33.399 on it, and there there's something it looks like it's 1723 01:34:33.479 --> 01:34:38.079 got like it's like a blood welcome the Rolling Stones 1724 01:34:38.119 --> 01:34:40.920 and it looks like it's like splattered with blood. 1725 01:34:42.119 --> 01:34:44.520 Creepy, yeah, like on the armor. It actually does something 1726 01:34:44.520 --> 01:34:44.680 like that. 1727 01:34:45.680 --> 01:34:49.239 Yeah, So there's something about that too. It was like 1728 01:34:50.439 --> 01:34:54.520 the transitioning between the old Beetles and the New Beetles 1729 01:34:54.880 --> 01:34:58.399 and the Rolling Stones something like that. It was around 1730 01:34:58.520 --> 01:35:03.239 like the same time. I can't remember when they replaced Paul. 1731 01:35:04.479 --> 01:35:07.079 But it was right before this sixty six This is 1732 01:35:07.119 --> 01:35:11.159 sixty seven mm hmmm, twenty years ago today Sergeant Pepper 1733 01:35:11.239 --> 01:35:14.199 taught the band to play. Is often assumed they're talking 1734 01:35:14.199 --> 01:35:15.720 about Crowley he died. 1735 01:35:18.640 --> 01:35:21.159 But yeah, I mean, I think this is one of 1736 01:35:21.199 --> 01:35:23.479 those rabbit holes you can go down because it's just 1737 01:35:23.600 --> 01:35:26.720 such a hodgepodge of like weird stuff and like why 1738 01:35:27.920 --> 01:35:29.439 why put it together in that way? 1739 01:35:30.880 --> 01:35:34.960 Well, their process, I mean you're doing, yeah, weird process stuff. 1740 01:35:35.439 --> 01:35:38.800 Well that's where that's where John matt Yoko was it, 1741 01:35:38.880 --> 01:35:42.680 the Process Mayfair. Yeah, it was owned. It was owned 1742 01:35:42.680 --> 01:35:46.439 by Paul McCarty, the original Paul's girlfriend's brother, Jane Asher, 1743 01:35:46.560 --> 01:35:50.399 was his girlfriend. Peter Asher, major major music producer guy 1744 01:35:50.439 --> 01:35:53.199 in Hollywood till this till this day. I think he's 1745 01:35:53.199 --> 01:35:56.359 associated with the p DDY stuff. I'm not mistaken that 1746 01:35:56.600 --> 01:35:58.560 he was a member of the Process and he owned 1747 01:35:58.640 --> 01:36:01.119 the coffee shop and headquarters are they're in the Mayfair district. 1748 01:36:01.920 --> 01:36:05.479 Their first cousin, Jane and Peter Asher's first cousin, lives 1749 01:36:05.560 --> 01:36:09.000 in canab Utah today. She's an og member of the Process. 1750 01:36:09.880 --> 01:36:11.840 So do you know if the guy who shot John 1751 01:36:11.920 --> 01:36:13.279 Lennon was Process. 1752 01:36:13.479 --> 01:36:16.600 Because we were just talking about that. Actually, we were 1753 01:36:16.640 --> 01:36:19.239 just about on Friday Night, weren't we Nick, Yeah, we 1754 01:36:19.319 --> 01:36:21.600 were on our Friday night show. We were talking why 1755 01:36:21.640 --> 01:36:24.520 did we start tall? Because our guest was talking about 1756 01:36:24.520 --> 01:36:27.560 the jfk assassination in Lenin Vans, And I was like, 1757 01:36:27.640 --> 01:36:29.680 I know a Lenin Van and there's a guy that 1758 01:36:29.800 --> 01:36:32.840 drives around America claiming that Stephen King murdered John Lennon. 1759 01:36:33.199 --> 01:36:36.680 But we started talking about the process and everything else. Really, 1760 01:36:37.199 --> 01:36:39.159 are you know from AYR Stephen King murder John Lennon. 1761 01:36:40.000 --> 01:36:44.399 I wouldn't put it past him, right because I know 1762 01:36:44.520 --> 01:36:47.840 that the guy that they blamed it on, Mark David 1763 01:36:48.199 --> 01:36:51.760 Wasn't that his name? Chapman? Chapman Yep, he was a 1764 01:36:51.800 --> 01:36:54.359 good friend of Kenneth Anger. 1765 01:36:55.880 --> 01:36:57.960 Yeah. He had some connections right to scientology too, I 1766 01:36:58.039 --> 01:36:59.199 believe right. 1767 01:36:59.319 --> 01:37:01.399 So I would just wondered if the process came in 1768 01:37:01.560 --> 01:37:03.439 anywhere with that, that's interesting. 1769 01:37:04.439 --> 01:37:06.119 I'm gonna look more into it. I mean, it happened 1770 01:37:06.119 --> 01:37:09.000 to Dakoda building. That's for Bob Cocaine, Evans and Roman 1771 01:37:09.000 --> 01:37:13.439 Polanski film. There's Satanist shit show of the film. Rosemary 1772 01:37:14.039 --> 01:37:17.720 Baby was supposed to start Tuesday, well until she turned down. 1773 01:37:18.199 --> 01:37:20.840 I was gonna say, you go there's the tie back. 1774 01:37:20.960 --> 01:37:26.640 It was supposed to be Tuesday, the High Priestess witch herself. 1775 01:37:27.920 --> 01:37:29.600 No, I'm I'm sure there's more to the lend murder 1776 01:37:29.640 --> 01:37:31.600 there with the process, for sure, quite. 1777 01:37:31.439 --> 01:37:36.520 Positive, who fucking even knows? But yeah, I think this 1778 01:37:36.760 --> 01:37:39.560 is a really great place for people to, like, if 1779 01:37:39.600 --> 01:37:43.199 they've never looked into her, or if they're this this 1780 01:37:43.399 --> 01:37:45.399 is like the first time they're ever hearing about her, 1781 01:37:45.520 --> 01:37:49.000 to go and just look at her Wikipedia, because there's 1782 01:37:49.479 --> 01:37:51.079 you know, if you start at the top and you 1783 01:37:51.239 --> 01:37:53.279 just go all the way down, there's so many things 1784 01:37:53.359 --> 01:37:55.800 in there you just would not believe like she's connected 1785 01:37:55.880 --> 01:37:59.279 to or that she people, that she knew the circles 1786 01:37:59.359 --> 01:38:04.560 she traveled then. And some people have even speculated that 1787 01:38:05.520 --> 01:38:08.760 that plane crash with Buddy Hawley and the Big Bopper 1788 01:38:08.960 --> 01:38:13.640 and Richie Allen's was like the sacrifice that ascended Tuesday 1789 01:38:13.920 --> 01:38:15.960 into the counterculture movement. 1790 01:38:16.640 --> 01:38:18.720 I'm glad, I'm glad you said that. I'm glad you 1791 01:38:19.000 --> 01:38:24.760 date right, Yeah, yeah, by Domin Lean right, Hi, Yes, 1792 01:38:25.039 --> 01:38:28.600 would you believe that Domic Clean's forefather is First of all, 1793 01:38:28.640 --> 01:38:30.600 Domin Clean's a member of the Society of Cincinnati. His 1794 01:38:30.680 --> 01:38:33.960 forefather wasn't well a potential member. His forefather was a member. 1795 01:38:34.239 --> 01:38:37.720 His paternal forefather and his paternal forefather most certainly knew 1796 01:38:38.359 --> 01:38:41.840 Elizer Weld. Colonel Eliser Weld. There they served together. 1797 01:38:42.239 --> 01:38:45.239 So maybe maybe that's what the connection is though, because 1798 01:38:45.279 --> 01:38:46.520 they say that's what it was. 1799 01:38:47.319 --> 01:38:49.199 Yeah, it was like there were there rumored to be 1800 01:38:49.319 --> 01:38:52.119 dating right Weld and MacLean, Right, and that's what he 1801 01:38:52.159 --> 01:38:56.760 writes that song about the tribute to the power well hold. 1802 01:38:56.760 --> 01:38:58.319 Their families have history together. 1803 01:38:58.800 --> 01:39:02.000 Holy ship, because I never I never knew what the 1804 01:39:02.119 --> 01:39:04.560 tie was because they said, you know that plane crash, 1805 01:39:05.199 --> 01:39:08.399 it was the sacrifice for Tuesday, and then she was 1806 01:39:08.439 --> 01:39:13.520 supposed to like ascend into whatever. And then the the 1807 01:39:13.600 --> 01:39:16.439 American Pie song was supposed to be about that and 1808 01:39:16.560 --> 01:39:17.239 about and then. 1809 01:39:17.279 --> 01:39:19.600 Oh my god, do you know the source of that 1810 01:39:19.720 --> 01:39:24.600 sale you just described? No, Jeffrey Dean Turner, the autistic 1811 01:39:24.680 --> 01:39:29.359 man in the kitchen to say that, say California. Yeah, 1812 01:39:30.119 --> 01:39:36.479 that was from the Rightley series. Oh my god, that's 1813 01:39:36.520 --> 01:39:38.600 what I'm saying. The dude's onto something, right, He's got 1814 01:39:38.640 --> 01:39:40.479 you make some good points. He makes some good points. 1815 01:39:41.000 --> 01:39:43.199 I want to meet the fucker. I want to mind 1816 01:39:43.279 --> 01:39:43.600 my show. 1817 01:39:44.439 --> 01:39:47.000 He's still a lovey. You can probably should probably contact him, 1818 01:39:48.000 --> 01:39:51.039 But that song is definitely about That song is definitely 1819 01:39:51.039 --> 01:39:53.560 about a ritual. I mean, the last the last, the 1820 01:39:53.760 --> 01:39:56.720 entire last verse is all about is it mentioned Satan twice? 1821 01:39:56.720 --> 01:39:58.119 The tank rituals everything else? 1822 01:39:58.600 --> 01:39:59.079 Mm hmmm. 1823 01:39:59.720 --> 01:40:03.239 One of my favorite songs too. It's crazy, you know, 1824 01:40:03.520 --> 01:40:05.199 you know when you the first time you hear it, 1825 01:40:05.359 --> 01:40:07.079 Like I was a kid the first time I heard it, 1826 01:40:07.199 --> 01:40:09.319 and you just sing it, you know, and passing because 1827 01:40:09.359 --> 01:40:12.159 it's catchy, but it means something totally different to me 1828 01:40:12.239 --> 01:40:17.000 as an adult. Yeah, I mean. And by the way, 1829 01:40:17.319 --> 01:40:19.600 if I was to ever get in contact with this 1830 01:40:19.800 --> 01:40:22.439 autistic guy, I would not want to interview him alone. 1831 01:40:22.520 --> 01:40:24.000 I would definitely need back. 1832 01:40:24.439 --> 01:40:26.600 We know, if you get ahold of him several people, 1833 01:40:27.800 --> 01:40:29.600 you get ahold of them all, I'll come. I'll come 1834 01:40:29.680 --> 01:40:31.920 question the man. I'll talk and autism with the guy. 1835 01:40:31.960 --> 01:40:37.239 You know, Yeah, you are not autistic, are you? 1836 01:40:38.359 --> 01:40:41.479 Don't I've ever been tested. My son is extremely He's 1837 01:40:41.479 --> 01:40:44.079 definitely autistic. But you know the way that. 1838 01:40:46.079 --> 01:40:49.600 I've mentioned to Colby before because like we've done shows together, 1839 01:40:49.640 --> 01:40:52.399 and I'll be like the way JJ can recall information 1840 01:40:53.399 --> 01:40:55.680 you know, maybe you are autistic. I don't know, dude, 1841 01:40:56.199 --> 01:40:58.479 Like I can't remember ship the way you can. 1842 01:40:59.439 --> 01:41:02.199 My son's got me. My my son's got me beat. 1843 01:41:02.239 --> 01:41:05.199 You know, he's a he was diagnosed, so they never 1844 01:41:05.279 --> 01:41:06.920 sent me to a doctor. I'm just saying, like he 1845 01:41:06.960 --> 01:41:08.399 and I operate on the same wavelength. 1846 01:41:09.199 --> 01:41:11.439 No, for sure, Like I have to have notes. I 1847 01:41:11.560 --> 01:41:14.319 have to, you know, go back because I'll forget shit 1848 01:41:14.439 --> 01:41:16.359 and like be trying to go off my memory and 1849 01:41:16.399 --> 01:41:18.880 I can't remember shit. But some of the stuff that 1850 01:41:18.960 --> 01:41:20.880 you bring up, I'm like, how the fuck does he 1851 01:41:21.000 --> 01:41:24.760 remember all this? It's like verbatim quotes and like places 1852 01:41:24.840 --> 01:41:26.359 and like stuff in history. 1853 01:41:27.039 --> 01:41:29.880 But you know, yeah, we'll do some autism and autism 1854 01:41:30.000 --> 01:41:30.960 with the Jeffrey Den Turner. 1855 01:41:31.039 --> 01:41:36.840 Sometimes I wouldn't I wouldn't have it any other way. Yeah, 1856 01:41:37.359 --> 01:41:40.760 you have to be there. But no, thanks for having 1857 01:41:40.840 --> 01:41:42.479 me on though, you guys. I think this was a 1858 01:41:42.560 --> 01:41:43.560 really cool episode. 1859 01:41:43.680 --> 01:41:46.840 Definitely, definitely, no, for sure. 1860 01:41:46.840 --> 01:41:49.239 I had a great time. I got one question before you, Julia, 1861 01:41:49.600 --> 01:41:52.600 So you know, not necessarily a Laurel Canyon, you know band, 1862 01:41:52.680 --> 01:41:55.720 but obviously not really Hollywood band neither for you know 1863 01:41:55.880 --> 01:41:58.279 la scene at all really, But Lennard Skinner they saying 1864 01:41:58.319 --> 01:42:01.800 Tuesday's gone in nineteen seventy three and they're playing Crashes 1865 01:42:01.840 --> 01:42:04.119 in nineteen seventy seven. What are your thoughts on? 1866 01:42:04.800 --> 01:42:12.239 Oh shit, yeah, I totally forgot about that. 1867 01:42:13.119 --> 01:42:15.159 Yeah, okay, family my favorite band. 1868 01:42:15.359 --> 01:42:16.680 That's my favorite band. I can't forget. 1869 01:42:16.800 --> 01:42:20.000 I love Lyonard Skinnard. Oh my god, it's like one 1870 01:42:20.039 --> 01:42:20.960 of my favies. 1871 01:42:22.079 --> 01:42:26.279 Geez, August nineteen seventy three, the jam Tuesday's gone August 1872 01:42:26.359 --> 01:42:30.279 nineteen seventy seven. Most of the band was gone. Well excellent. 1873 01:42:31.079 --> 01:42:36.199 If anybody's told my well, I think I've actually talked 1874 01:42:36.239 --> 01:42:38.279 to Dick about this before. But if anybody's followed my 1875 01:42:38.359 --> 01:42:41.239 show for a while, they know that I've put together 1876 01:42:41.359 --> 01:42:44.039 all these like weird things that happen in August or 1877 01:42:44.359 --> 01:42:48.279 around eights and stuff like Marilyn Monroe died in August. 1878 01:42:49.039 --> 01:42:53.319 Tuesday Weld was born in August. Apparently they came out 1879 01:42:53.359 --> 01:42:55.840 with this song in August and then died what August 1880 01:42:55.920 --> 01:42:56.560 the next year? 1881 01:42:58.439 --> 01:43:03.560 The October seventy seven is when August, which it claimed 1882 01:43:03.680 --> 01:43:06.560 most of the band. I think all but three three members. 1883 01:43:06.560 --> 01:43:08.399 I think we're all well killed there. 1884 01:43:09.039 --> 01:43:10.840 Yeah, dude, I mean, I think it's weird. Did the 1885 01:43:10.920 --> 01:43:12.960 song did you say the song came out in August? 1886 01:43:13.840 --> 01:43:15.600 Yeah, August the seventy three, I believe it was. 1887 01:43:15.760 --> 01:43:20.199 Okay, Yeah, So I mean there's just we have this August. 1888 01:43:19.960 --> 01:43:23.039 August thirteenth, that was August ninth. Was August the ninth 1889 01:43:23.119 --> 01:43:25.720 of the the tenth, tenth, and eleventh, I think were 1890 01:43:25.760 --> 01:43:26.520 the Manson murders. Right? 1891 01:43:26.600 --> 01:43:26.720 Is that? 1892 01:43:26.800 --> 01:43:30.239 Is that right? August tenth and eleventh. It's always August 1893 01:43:30.800 --> 01:43:31.720 nineteen sixty nine. 1894 01:43:32.439 --> 01:43:35.800 Hmm, it's always August. If people look and they see, 1895 01:43:37.600 --> 01:43:40.800 like if you even google like tragedies that happened in August, 1896 01:43:40.880 --> 01:43:44.479 celebrities that died in August, it's like it's astounding the 1897 01:43:44.560 --> 01:43:47.720 amount of stuff that that has went down that seems 1898 01:43:47.720 --> 01:43:52.840 super ritualistic to me in August, Like when did when 1899 01:43:52.920 --> 01:43:55.359 did Buddy When did the Buddy Holly plane go down? 1900 01:43:55.520 --> 01:43:56.319 Was that August? No? 1901 01:43:57.199 --> 01:43:58.439 I think that was February. 1902 01:43:58.920 --> 01:44:06.119 February, Okay. I had a whole list of these August things. 1903 01:44:06.239 --> 01:44:08.239 I wish I had that list still so I could 1904 01:44:08.279 --> 01:44:09.239 tell you some of the stuff. 1905 01:44:09.279 --> 01:44:11.960 But oh, there's a lot of zodiac stuff popping off 1906 01:44:12.119 --> 01:44:16.039 along with man's and stuff right in August that same year, right, Yeah, yeah. 1907 01:44:15.920 --> 01:44:19.560 I think John Bennet was born in August. You know, 1908 01:44:19.960 --> 01:44:22.640 just the more you look for it, you'll find it. 1909 01:44:23.039 --> 01:44:25.479 And it used to not be significant to me, but 1910 01:44:25.680 --> 01:44:27.880 then the more I started looking into it, it's like, oh, 1911 01:44:27.960 --> 01:44:31.920 another August, another August, another August. And so it's gotta 1912 01:44:32.000 --> 01:44:33.960 mean something given. 1913 01:44:33.800 --> 01:44:35.960 These cult folks we're talking about in their affinity for 1914 01:44:36.039 --> 01:44:39.399 the Star Sirius, this ancient alien cargo cult systems these 1915 01:44:39.439 --> 01:44:41.560 people all subscribe to and their affinity for the Star 1916 01:44:41.640 --> 01:44:45.079 system serious or dog Star? Is this going on during 1917 01:44:45.119 --> 01:44:47.199 the dog days of summer? What you're describing it sounds 1918 01:44:47.279 --> 01:44:47.600 like it is? 1919 01:44:48.159 --> 01:44:51.720 It is, Yeah, because I wanted to look further into it. 1920 01:44:51.840 --> 01:44:53.760 I don't want to tangent too hard. But you know 1921 01:44:53.960 --> 01:44:58.439 Santos Binacci right in his Holy Science and you know 1922 01:44:58.560 --> 01:45:00.880 the zodiacting, and I'm not. 1923 01:45:00.880 --> 01:45:04.199 Familiar with this guy button He's a cool guy. 1924 01:45:04.920 --> 01:45:06.520 It actually follows me on Instagram. I was like, what 1925 01:45:06.600 --> 01:45:06.880 the fuck? 1926 01:45:06.920 --> 01:45:11.279 Okay, he's a big atrologer. 1927 01:45:12.159 --> 01:45:14.000 He is, and I think he's done some great work. 1928 01:45:14.039 --> 01:45:15.359 I just think he's getting a little old and a 1929 01:45:15.359 --> 01:45:16.560 little fright out at this point. 1930 01:45:16.600 --> 01:45:20.800 That's yeah, I think he's done the same presentation so 1931 01:45:20.880 --> 01:45:23.319 many times he's he's kind of burned himself out on it, 1932 01:45:23.479 --> 01:45:26.760 but the information is still really cool. And he talks 1933 01:45:26.800 --> 01:45:30.000 about the dog days, the serious dog days of summer, 1934 01:45:31.000 --> 01:45:34.439 and he talks about significant things happening during that time 1935 01:45:34.479 --> 01:45:37.239 because it's under the sign of Leo and the sun worship, 1936 01:45:38.039 --> 01:45:41.640 and most of these cults and a lot of religions 1937 01:45:41.680 --> 01:45:45.560 are based off of sun worship. I think Catholicism is 1938 01:45:45.600 --> 01:45:48.560 one of the most guilty parties of sun worship. But 1939 01:45:50.279 --> 01:45:53.760 you know, August is Leo, it's the it's the Sun, 1940 01:45:54.680 --> 01:45:58.319 and it's also the dog days, the serious days, so 1941 01:45:58.760 --> 01:46:02.399 it's literally like multiple things at one time during that 1942 01:46:02.600 --> 01:46:03.239 part of the year. 1943 01:46:04.000 --> 01:46:07.560 So Cargo cults love Serious, all of them. The more 1944 01:46:07.920 --> 01:46:11.279 the process, all the Rosicrucians, the Masons, they all love Serious. 1945 01:46:11.720 --> 01:46:17.720 Yes, yes, the Uh. The civilization that built go Beckley 1946 01:46:17.840 --> 01:46:21.119 Tepe built it in alignment with Serious. It's anciently old. 1947 01:46:21.800 --> 01:46:26.720 The ancient civilization that built gig and Tea it's on Malta, 1948 01:46:27.039 --> 01:46:30.680 they built it in alignment with the Star. Serious. If 1949 01:46:30.720 --> 01:46:34.479 you look at the Truman Show, even there are several 1950 01:46:34.960 --> 01:46:38.880 mentions to Serious in The Truman Show with Jim Carrey 1951 01:46:39.600 --> 01:46:44.239 and also Jim Carrey. The Mask it's a it's a 1952 01:46:44.319 --> 01:46:49.000 story about Serious and Loki. So I mean, it's ever 1953 01:46:49.479 --> 01:46:54.560 you look for the mask. Yeah, the yeah, the folkal 1954 01:46:54.600 --> 01:46:59.239 are behind the mask. The real mask is about Loki 1955 01:46:59.520 --> 01:47:03.960 and Dark Star Serious. So if you look for it, 1956 01:47:04.279 --> 01:47:07.159 Serious symbology is everywhere. 1957 01:47:08.000 --> 01:47:13.479 It is everywhere, and it's like Plates are better than Serious. 1958 01:47:13.560 --> 01:47:14.159 What does that mean? 1959 01:47:16.079 --> 01:47:17.199 What somebody says that? 1960 01:47:18.680 --> 01:47:20.680 Well, I just wonder because that's who founded the town 1961 01:47:20.720 --> 01:47:26.479 of Moscow, Idaho. Was this Plates Club? Yeah? Yeah, they 1962 01:47:26.520 --> 01:47:29.039 started the university. There was the wife of the first 1963 01:47:29.119 --> 01:47:33.600 president and six wives of six administrators or teachers. They 1964 01:47:33.640 --> 01:47:37.680 were seven sisters of Plates. There's Plates Club. That's seems 1965 01:47:37.680 --> 01:47:39.239 to be some cult origins of that town. I just 1966 01:47:39.439 --> 01:47:41.119 I don't know enough about Plates. I don't know enough 1967 01:47:41.159 --> 01:47:44.199 about Stars. I don't believe in him. Nazi's describing to me, 1968 01:47:44.439 --> 01:47:46.279 and so did kid Diddlers, And I don't believe in 1969 01:47:46.399 --> 01:47:47.520 anything either one of those. 1970 01:47:47.399 --> 01:47:50.119 Parties say, well, they seem to believe in it. That's 1971 01:47:50.159 --> 01:47:51.920 what I care about. I want to know why. 1972 01:47:52.319 --> 01:47:54.159 I want to know why something. I'm just saying I 1973 01:47:54.199 --> 01:47:56.000 don't believe in what they're describing it as, right, Like, 1974 01:47:56.079 --> 01:47:59.880 I'm sure something right, Yeah, some kind of affecting there, 1975 01:48:00.000 --> 01:48:00.199 there is. 1976 01:48:01.079 --> 01:48:03.199 This is a cult you can look into JJ. It's 1977 01:48:03.239 --> 01:48:08.800 called the the the Order of the Solar Temple. They 1978 01:48:08.840 --> 01:48:13.159 were also I think they were dog stars, serious followers. 1979 01:48:13.560 --> 01:48:16.479 You know, it's you know, it's funny. That just reminded me. No, Lie, 1980 01:48:16.560 --> 01:48:19.039 I recorded part one of a two part series with 1981 01:48:19.159 --> 01:48:21.319 that with Thrash and Mike probably eight months. 1982 01:48:21.159 --> 01:48:23.119 Ago, and about the Solar Temple. 1983 01:48:23.199 --> 01:48:25.880 Yeah, we never got to part two yet. I totally forgot. 1984 01:48:26.239 --> 01:48:27.960 Oh my god, it's so yeah. 1985 01:48:28.479 --> 01:48:32.079 Yeah, it is wild. It's latantly cult. It's blatantly a cult. 1986 01:48:32.079 --> 01:48:35.439 They didn't hide anything. They burned places down, killed people. 1987 01:48:35.520 --> 01:48:38.239 There was multiple suicides choreographed in different. 1988 01:48:38.000 --> 01:48:44.439 Countries in Switzerland and France. And they also took all 1989 01:48:44.520 --> 01:48:47.760 of their inspiration from Alice Bailey, who was. 1990 01:48:47.800 --> 01:48:53.520 As yeah, to go back to theosophy. 1991 01:48:53.239 --> 01:48:56.279 Alice Bailey with the New Age ideals. 1992 01:48:56.560 --> 01:48:56.800 Yeah. 1993 01:48:56.920 --> 01:49:00.840 I like the way wiscribes this cult, variously described as 1994 01:49:00.920 --> 01:49:04.560 a esoteric new religious movement, a neo Templar group, a 1995 01:49:04.680 --> 01:49:08.520 Rosic Crucian organization, a doomsday or suicide, call a new 1996 01:49:08.600 --> 01:49:12.159 magical movement, a magical esoteric religion, or a secret society, 1997 01:49:12.199 --> 01:49:15.439 among many other descriptors. These people there, they got a 1998 01:49:15.479 --> 01:49:16.840 lot of skill sets, are pretty prolific. 1999 01:49:16.880 --> 01:49:20.079 I like, I like this called dude. JJ body count 2000 01:49:20.199 --> 01:49:22.600 is seventy four for this town. 2001 01:49:23.680 --> 01:49:25.960 Yeah. Again, that's multiple countries I think are involved. Like 2002 01:49:26.199 --> 01:49:28.840 possibly yeah too, at least I think they. 2003 01:49:30.319 --> 01:49:33.439 Jim Jones situation. These are independent activities of seventy four. 2004 01:49:33.760 --> 01:49:36.960 They're independent and it spanned over three years of death. 2005 01:49:37.039 --> 01:49:37.680 Good lord. 2006 01:49:38.840 --> 01:49:41.039 Yes, you got to look into him, man, They're they're 2007 01:49:41.239 --> 01:49:44.479 fucking balls to the wall nuts so crazy. 2008 01:49:44.880 --> 01:49:46.640 Definitely will nix't been telling about him too, for sure. 2009 01:49:46.640 --> 01:49:49.680 I'll definitely look into him. Thank you. Yeah, so I 2010 01:49:49.760 --> 01:49:52.880 see the serious worship there too. Yeah, they're Yes, it's 2011 01:49:52.920 --> 01:49:55.439 always serious, it's always. 2012 01:49:58.479 --> 01:50:00.199 But yeah, no, guys, this was a good one. 2013 01:50:00.479 --> 01:50:01.560 Yeah, for sure. 2014 01:50:01.600 --> 01:50:02.560 That's what mind blowing to me. 2015 01:50:05.159 --> 01:50:06.840 I've been looking forward to talking Tuesday Well and I 2016 01:50:06.880 --> 01:50:08.960 appreciated Julia that I, you know, had an opportunity to 2017 01:50:09.600 --> 01:50:12.079 share some Tuesday Well thoughts with you here today. Hell yeah, 2018 01:50:12.199 --> 01:50:13.720 let me let me know if you get ahold of 2019 01:50:13.760 --> 01:50:15.119 that autistic fell I'll be happy to help. 2020 01:50:15.840 --> 01:50:16.199 I will. 2021 01:50:17.479 --> 01:50:18.880 I'll let you know if I get You know what, 2022 01:50:19.000 --> 01:50:21.319 the most mind blowing part of this show for me 2023 01:50:21.640 --> 01:50:24.439 was cross dressing Donald Trump. 2024 01:50:24.560 --> 01:50:29.279 I think, there you go. God, there you go, a 2025 01:50:29.399 --> 01:50:34.079 hunter nightmares from now on. Cross dressing Trump on a leash. 2026 01:50:34.680 --> 01:50:41.479 Yeah, that's so crazy to me. David Burkowitz in the background. 2027 01:50:41.359 --> 01:50:47.079 Yeah, yep, parting it up, coke out. 2028 01:50:48.960 --> 01:50:51.720 All the place, just each other. 2029 01:50:54.560 --> 01:50:56.079 We don't know if he was there, We don't know if. 2030 01:50:56.000 --> 01:50:58.199 He's Oh he was there, come on, and. 2031 01:51:00.279 --> 01:51:03.439 He was just pumping, oh yeah. 2032 01:51:04.319 --> 01:51:09.079 Singing his number one hit, My Dangling. It's a real song. 2033 01:51:09.319 --> 01:51:11.000 It's a real song. It was the number one hit 2034 01:51:11.119 --> 01:51:11.439 for him. 2035 01:51:12.199 --> 01:51:16.840 Oh God, no way. Maybe we should do Maybe we 2036 01:51:16.880 --> 01:51:18.720 should do the next one on Chuck Berry. 2037 01:51:19.560 --> 01:51:23.640 Maybe you might actually find some decent stuff in that. 2038 01:51:24.680 --> 01:51:25.319 I'm telling you. 2039 01:51:25.520 --> 01:51:28.239 Nobody gets tabloid articles. 2040 01:51:28.680 --> 01:51:31.800 Right, nobody gets out of touching my Dangling. 2041 01:51:39.159 --> 01:51:42.359 I appreciate your all's time today with the Tuesday Wells conversation, 2042 01:51:42.479 --> 01:51:44.920 for sure. Any of the folks of the interwebs. 2043 01:51:47.159 --> 01:51:48.640 All right, you good, We're done. 2044 01:51:50.199 --> 01:51:53.720 Gotta closing saments, you gotta closing thoughts there. 2045 01:51:54.159 --> 01:51:57.600 Uh no, not really no. I thought it was really good. 2046 01:51:57.680 --> 01:51:59.439 Like again, I feel bad I didn't have anything to add, 2047 01:51:59.479 --> 01:52:01.880 but I mean there was just this is interesting, so 2048 01:52:02.000 --> 01:52:05.279 many different things that it connects to. I even like 2049 01:52:05.399 --> 01:52:06.880 not have to bring it back up, but even starting 2050 01:52:06.880 --> 01:52:08.439 to follow, Like I was thinking for a while at 2051 01:52:08.520 --> 01:52:11.119 least plane crashes, Like there's even something like what's up 2052 01:52:11.119 --> 01:52:11.279 like this? 2053 01:52:11.479 --> 01:52:11.600 Man? 2054 01:52:12.760 --> 01:52:15.159 Yeah, plane crashes a RFK have plane clashes to those 2055 01:52:15.199 --> 01:52:17.359 guys who are for La Bamba. I mean, it's all 2056 01:52:17.399 --> 01:52:19.640 these people. It's like, why are we using planes h 2057 01:52:19.880 --> 01:52:20.600 knocking people off? 2058 01:52:21.439 --> 01:52:21.600 You know. 2059 01:52:23.039 --> 01:52:25.079 I mean I did a plane crash episode if you 2060 01:52:25.119 --> 01:52:26.920 guys want me to talk about it sometimes. But Alia 2061 01:52:27.000 --> 01:52:27.600 is a crazy one. 2062 01:52:27.640 --> 01:52:29.279 Oh yeah, I might actually be interested on that. That 2063 01:52:29.439 --> 01:52:31.479 was something you Oh god, I'm sorry, I'm hijacking the 2064 01:52:31.479 --> 01:52:34.399 show now, but real quick, I think it inspired me 2065 01:52:34.520 --> 01:52:36.399 to do this. I started. I did a couple of 2066 01:52:36.479 --> 01:52:39.720 shows where I covered the seventeenth of every month and 2067 01:52:39.840 --> 01:52:42.600 weird stuff that happened on that, And there was one 2068 01:52:43.039 --> 01:52:45.840 there was a few times where plane crashes were huge 2069 01:52:46.720 --> 01:52:48.800 and I'm like, OK, what is up with plane crashes 2070 01:52:48.800 --> 01:52:49.399 on the date of. 2071 01:52:49.479 --> 01:52:55.760 The seventeenth, cause it's an eight that's the dog Star. 2072 01:52:56.880 --> 01:52:59.920 Yeah serious, the infinity symbol. 2073 01:53:00.239 --> 01:53:05.479 Seriously serious. All right, I appreciate the operation g c 2074 01:53:05.600 --> 01:53:07.680 D take over again. I wasn't gonna have this conversation 2075 01:53:08.159 --> 01:53:10.880 not on Occult Rejects. When when we're all with you know, 2076 01:53:10.880 --> 01:53:14.199 when Julian I Recult Rejects. We we spawned this whole 2077 01:53:14.279 --> 01:53:16.720 show off of last week's The Cult Elvis Show, which 2078 01:53:16.760 --> 01:53:18.399 I can I highly recommend folks check out. 2079 01:53:18.600 --> 01:53:23.159 Yes next week, all right, next week, yes, all right, 2080 01:53:23.159 --> 01:53:25.079 I guess we'll wrap it up here. And yo, the 2081 01:53:25.439 --> 01:53:27.119 the chat was off the hook. Thank you everybody in 2082 01:53:27.159 --> 01:53:29.039 the chat. That's what's up. I tried to pay attention 2083 01:53:29.079 --> 01:53:31.239 to throw up a lot of your comments. Uh so, 2084 01:53:31.359 --> 01:53:33.239 thank you all again, and thank you Tyler. That's what's up. 2085 01:53:33.279 --> 01:53:35.560 You're the best. And that's the end of another Cult 2086 01:53:35.600 --> 01:53:37.840 Rejects until the next one. Buddy, be well. 2087 01:53:38.239 --> 01:54:04.600 Here Bob Bob Bob barbarant went to a dance looking 2088 01:54:04.680 --> 01:54:05.000 for him. 2089 01:54:05.079 --> 01:54:06.560 Man saw Barbara. 2090 01:54:06.920 --> 01:54:07.960 So I thought I'd take a. 2091 01:54:08.039 --> 01:54:09.840 Gang of barber and bab ba. 2092 01:54:12.199 --> 01:54:15.520 Ba ba banker. Man, you gotta be running in a 2093 01:54:15.640 --> 01:54:19.399 roll and rocking in a barber and Bob Bob Bob 2094 01:54:19.520 --> 01:54:22.079 Bob bah bah. 2095 01:54:22.199 --> 01:54:26.479 Bob, Barbara Ba Ba ba Ba Barbara. 2096 01:54:26.880 --> 01:54:36.560 B b b Barbart. You gotta be rocking in a 2097 01:54:36.720 --> 01:54:37.880 roll and rocking in 2098 01:54:38.560 --> 01:54:40.520 Barbar and Bob Bob Bob