WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.000 --> 00:00:05.320 It's night Side with Dan Ray. I'm going easy Boston's 2 00:00:05.400 --> 00:00:05.960 new radio. 3 00:00:06.639 --> 00:00:10.560 I'll renumber three of Nightside without Dan Ray. I'm Morgan 4 00:00:11.000 --> 00:00:14.880 Morgan White Junior. Been a part of the WBZ landscape, 5 00:00:15.080 --> 00:00:18.640 oh my goodness, going back to nineteen ninety five, ninety six. 6 00:00:19.480 --> 00:00:22.399 And I've been lucky enough to fill in for Dan 7 00:00:22.679 --> 00:00:28.199 all this week Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, last Night, Thursday, Tonight, Friday, 8 00:00:28.920 --> 00:00:33.159 and I have my own show on Saturday that begins 9 00:00:33.719 --> 00:00:37.119 tomorrow at ten o'clock for the last time, I am 10 00:00:37.159 --> 00:00:40.840 pushed to nine o'clock beginning the first show of the year, 11 00:00:41.640 --> 00:00:44.240 and as well, I'll be here next Monday and Tuesday 12 00:00:44.280 --> 00:00:48.520 for Dan. So I have a lot of time in 13 00:00:48.560 --> 00:00:52.079 front of this microphone. And I met this gentleman, No Goodree, 14 00:00:52.159 --> 00:00:58.920 fifteen sixteen years ago. He worked for the City of Newton. 15 00:00:59.039 --> 00:01:04.000 I always emphasize that Newton is a city, not a town, 16 00:01:04.159 --> 00:01:09.120 not a hamlet, not a community, a city and we're gosh, dar, 17 00:01:09.159 --> 00:01:13.640 I'm proud of that designation. And he was the head 18 00:01:13.760 --> 00:01:19.239 of the police department in the City of Newton, and periodically, 19 00:01:19.599 --> 00:01:23.000 even though he retired about two years ago, I still 20 00:01:23.159 --> 00:01:26.920 call upon him to come on the radio when there's 21 00:01:26.920 --> 00:01:30.319 a subject I feel he can address. So please welcome 22 00:01:30.359 --> 00:01:35.200 Lieutenant Bruce Apothecar Hi Bruce, Hi Morgan. 23 00:01:35.200 --> 00:01:35.840 How are you today? 24 00:01:36.719 --> 00:01:42.040 I am fine? And are you comfortable people still calling 25 00:01:42.040 --> 00:01:44.840 you lieutenant even though you retired a couple of years ago. 26 00:01:45.959 --> 00:01:48.159 You know, it's interesting many people do call me that. 27 00:01:49.359 --> 00:01:51.359 Even when I was working in I was a lieutenant. 28 00:01:51.359 --> 00:01:53.439 I used to tell people just you know, if they 29 00:01:53.439 --> 00:01:56.280 were a suborder of mine, I would say, you know, 30 00:01:56.400 --> 00:01:59.840 just call me by my first name, Bruce, and some people, 31 00:02:00.120 --> 00:02:05.680 you know, I feel comfortable by that name lieutenant. Some 32 00:02:05.719 --> 00:02:09.199 people call me lt. But in the end, uh, I'm 33 00:02:09.240 --> 00:02:12.439 just a regular guy. Uh, a boy from Rushbury and 34 00:02:12.479 --> 00:02:17.280 Georgester to make it pretty good. But I want to 35 00:02:17.280 --> 00:02:20.840 wish everybody before we start. I wanted with everybody happy, uh, 36 00:02:21.439 --> 00:02:25.400 New Year, Merry Christmas, happy Hanukah and uh. I always 37 00:02:25.439 --> 00:02:28.680 like to start up by saying the real heroes up 38 00:02:28.719 --> 00:02:31.960 there are the ones in uniform, police, fire, first responders, 39 00:02:32.319 --> 00:02:36.319 truly doctor and you know even people who were the uniform, 40 00:02:36.680 --> 00:02:39.199 someone in the custodial staff. You know, people that are 41 00:02:39.199 --> 00:02:43.240 always helping others, and so I always say they're out 42 00:02:43.240 --> 00:02:45.759 there for us. And it's nice if we can always 43 00:02:45.759 --> 00:02:46.360 be there for them. 44 00:02:47.120 --> 00:02:51.479 You say LT for lieutenant. Uh, that was the way 45 00:02:51.680 --> 00:02:56.560 that a couple of the police under Lieutenant Van Buren 46 00:02:56.960 --> 00:03:03.599 on Lauren Order referred to her. And Benjamin Brett, his character, 47 00:03:03.680 --> 00:03:08.199 used to always call her LT. So maybe that's where 48 00:03:08.240 --> 00:03:08.719 they got it. 49 00:03:09.759 --> 00:03:12.840 Well, it's interesting, you know. I go back to like 50 00:03:12.919 --> 00:03:17.039 nineteen eighty three, and I can remember when I was 51 00:03:17.039 --> 00:03:21.960 first a rookie going into the station and the lieutenant 52 00:03:22.000 --> 00:03:24.159 who will be in charge of the ship, people are 53 00:03:24.199 --> 00:03:26.599 calling him Lou. So I thought that was his name, Lou. 54 00:03:27.120 --> 00:03:30.479 But you learned mighty quickly. And I know, I don't 55 00:03:30.479 --> 00:03:32.039 know if I'll fight it at Hotma Store, but I 56 00:03:32.080 --> 00:03:35.120 know some people in Newton will call their lieutenant Lootie. 57 00:03:35.800 --> 00:03:39.000 So just different variations. But in the end, it's all 58 00:03:39.000 --> 00:03:41.599 the same, and we all worked for the common goal 59 00:03:41.639 --> 00:03:43.599 of helping others. 60 00:03:43.680 --> 00:03:47.479 And I'm glad you mentioned nineteen eighty three. In nineteen 61 00:03:47.479 --> 00:03:54.000 eighty three, the bad guys, the criminals, the thieves out 62 00:03:54.039 --> 00:03:59.000 there had not thought of making a duplicate copy of 63 00:03:59.039 --> 00:04:04.919 your mortgage and making it look like on paper that 64 00:04:05.000 --> 00:04:08.919 you sold your house that wasn't on somebody's mind in 65 00:04:09.000 --> 00:04:13.280 nineteen eighty three that came along, and I'm thinking mid 66 00:04:13.319 --> 00:04:16.000 to late nineties to the beginning of the two thousands. 67 00:04:16.680 --> 00:04:21.800 But that's just another way that the bad guys trying 68 00:04:21.800 --> 00:04:25.680 to find a way to steal from you without putting 69 00:04:25.680 --> 00:04:29.519 a gun to your head. And one of the reasons 70 00:04:29.600 --> 00:04:32.319 I want you tonight, I want you to talk about 71 00:04:32.399 --> 00:04:39.199 some of the scams and con artists and circumstances where 72 00:04:39.759 --> 00:04:46.279 Joe and Jane Citizen have their property taken from them. 73 00:04:46.480 --> 00:04:49.279 Well, you know, someone's more likely than not to have 74 00:04:49.360 --> 00:04:53.639 the house broken that the taking property. When I first 75 00:04:53.720 --> 00:04:56.879 got on the job, chest at a mall, and I 76 00:04:56.879 --> 00:05:01.360 believe the Braintream all was the too highest areas of 77 00:05:01.439 --> 00:05:05.279 stolen cars, stolen vehicles, and I can remember there's probably 78 00:05:05.279 --> 00:05:08.160 maybe once a shift the chests in the mall. You 79 00:05:08.279 --> 00:05:10.639 take a report of a stolen car, and and you know, 80 00:05:10.720 --> 00:05:16.639 things evolved. Car alims. It's just you know, there's video 81 00:05:16.680 --> 00:05:19.560 out there and it's just a whole really of different things, 82 00:05:19.560 --> 00:05:21.680 but it's the same thing like with the mortgage scams 83 00:05:21.680 --> 00:05:25.240 and all that. Things were always evolving. I think what 84 00:05:25.360 --> 00:05:27.879 the legislature should do, and I'm surprised they haven't done 85 00:05:27.879 --> 00:05:31.240 it yet. Somehow try to work on the front end 86 00:05:31.240 --> 00:05:36.920 of that, and so someone just can't file a title 87 00:05:37.839 --> 00:05:41.839 without you know, maybe showing proper identification or certain things 88 00:05:41.879 --> 00:05:45.800 that would ward off anything like a title being stolen. 89 00:05:46.720 --> 00:05:49.879 But you know what, there's and we've talked about this 90 00:05:49.959 --> 00:05:54.000 on many occasions. Just when you think you've seen it all, 91 00:05:54.279 --> 00:05:59.680 there's always another scam out there, and we all remember 92 00:06:00.160 --> 00:06:03.079 it all seems sosided. You know, years ago, remember the 93 00:06:03.199 --> 00:06:07.959 Nigerian scams where a prince would email you and say, 94 00:06:09.319 --> 00:06:12.759 you know he needs money. You give him a ten 95 00:06:12.759 --> 00:06:14.959 thousand dollars, he'll he promised he's going to give you 96 00:06:14.959 --> 00:06:18.720 a millionaire return. So there's just something I can remember 97 00:06:19.000 --> 00:06:24.240 over the years, having so of the supermarkets and Newton 98 00:06:24.839 --> 00:06:27.920 would contact us and say that, you know, we have 99 00:06:28.000 --> 00:06:30.360 someone who's been here for less a couple of days. 100 00:06:30.600 --> 00:06:36.199 They an elderly person and they're requesting money orders, you know, 101 00:06:36.240 --> 00:06:39.839 ten thousand dollars, fifteen thousand dollars and they're going to 102 00:06:39.959 --> 00:06:42.160 send it to somebody. So we would work with them, 103 00:06:42.160 --> 00:06:45.199 and I can remember one particular woman that you know, 104 00:06:45.199 --> 00:06:47.199 we spoke to the family and they were aware that 105 00:06:47.279 --> 00:06:50.319 she was, you know, being scammed out and what did 106 00:06:50.360 --> 00:06:52.560 she do the next day She went back and she 107 00:06:52.600 --> 00:06:58.639 did another money order. So yeah, it's a it's a 108 00:06:58.720 --> 00:07:01.439 tough thing out there, but you know, very fortunate. I 109 00:07:01.439 --> 00:07:05.160 always said working in Middlesex County U D. A. Ryan 110 00:07:06.879 --> 00:07:10.040 Middlesex DA Ryan does a fantastic job. Goes around the 111 00:07:10.040 --> 00:07:13.399 different senior centers, goes around to different cities and towns 112 00:07:13.399 --> 00:07:17.839 within Middlesex County and makes a lot of people, a 113 00:07:17.879 --> 00:07:20.959 lot of seniors aware of these scams. And by working 114 00:07:21.000 --> 00:07:24.160 again on the front end the police and the prosecution, 115 00:07:24.360 --> 00:07:26.480 I won't have to deal with it on the back end. 116 00:07:27.800 --> 00:07:33.360 I have a break roughly about sixty seconds away, and 117 00:07:33.879 --> 00:07:37.279 I'm going to open up the phone line six four 118 00:07:37.399 --> 00:07:41.879 ten thirty eight eight eight nine to nineteen thirty. If 119 00:07:41.920 --> 00:07:46.480 you have been scammed, or even if you have heard 120 00:07:46.639 --> 00:07:50.839 of a scam, somebody in your office the old we've 121 00:07:51.000 --> 00:07:55.279 kidnapped your grandchild and unless we get X amount of dollars, 122 00:07:55.639 --> 00:07:59.680 you'll never see them again. Meanwhile, your grandchild's at home 123 00:08:00.360 --> 00:08:06.240 watching NFL football. If you want to speak to any 124 00:08:06.279 --> 00:08:12.040 of those scams, call in. I guarantee you the lieutenant 125 00:08:12.120 --> 00:08:17.560 will have heard of any scam you can mention, and 126 00:08:18.079 --> 00:08:21.920 by mentioning them, you're helping all the people listening to 127 00:08:22.040 --> 00:08:26.000 Nightside right now be more aware of what to look 128 00:08:26.079 --> 00:08:29.759 out for, what not to do, to just have their 129 00:08:29.759 --> 00:08:34.519 life go much more smoothly and simply. So give us 130 00:08:34.559 --> 00:08:37.200 a call. Six point seven two five four ten thirty 131 00:08:37.600 --> 00:08:40.919 eight eight eight nine two nineteen thirty. This is Nightside. 132 00:08:40.960 --> 00:08:44.480 I'm Morgan filling in for Dan Ray. I've got Lieutenant 133 00:08:44.480 --> 00:08:51.039 Pruss Apothecar, former lieutenant in the City of Newton, and 134 00:08:51.080 --> 00:08:54.440 he's here with me to help you at home. Time 135 00:08:54.480 --> 00:08:58.799 and temperature ten point fifteen thirty five degrees. 136 00:08:59.120 --> 00:09:02.799 Now back to Ray live from the Window World Nightside 137 00:09:02.799 --> 00:09:05.519 Studios on WBZ News Radio. 138 00:09:06.240 --> 00:09:09.840 Dan is off tonight. He'll be off Monday and Tuesday, 139 00:09:09.879 --> 00:09:14.919 returning on Wednesday. To this microphone here at Nightside. My 140 00:09:15.039 --> 00:09:19.519 name Morgan White Jr. Periodically they call me into filling 141 00:09:19.600 --> 00:09:22.039 for Dan when Dan is off, and I do the 142 00:09:22.080 --> 00:09:28.679 best I can. I have a huge drolodex of great guests. 143 00:09:29.000 --> 00:09:32.840 I try to repeat them every two or three months 144 00:09:32.879 --> 00:09:38.440 because they represent stories and comments to help you. Right now, 145 00:09:38.480 --> 00:09:43.799 I've got Lieutenant Bruce Hypotheca and Bruce, can you speak 146 00:09:43.840 --> 00:09:48.240 to the scam that I mentioned before where somebody will 147 00:09:48.279 --> 00:09:56.279 call you and say they've got your child or grandchild hostage, 148 00:09:56.360 --> 00:10:00.200 and a lot of people panic and do what this 149 00:10:00.279 --> 00:10:05.679 mysterious caller says, and they send thousands to wherever they're 150 00:10:05.679 --> 00:10:08.799 told to get the safety of the kid back. 151 00:10:10.240 --> 00:10:12.440 Yep, absolutely, yeah. I actually had it happened to me 152 00:10:12.519 --> 00:10:16.120 one night. I was in my home and the phone 153 00:10:16.200 --> 00:10:20.720 ring and it said the uh, I forget we're in Georgia, 154 00:10:20.799 --> 00:10:24.799 but Georgia police apartment, and they said that my daughter 155 00:10:24.879 --> 00:10:28.639 was arrested and that I needed to send some money 156 00:10:29.440 --> 00:10:32.879 to help bail her out. And knowing that my daughter 157 00:10:33.000 --> 00:10:36.559 was in the next one sleeping, I uh, you know, 158 00:10:38.440 --> 00:10:41.519 I actually you know, I said to the guy, you 159 00:10:41.600 --> 00:10:45.240 get the wrong one, brother, But uh, in all honesty, 160 00:10:45.279 --> 00:10:49.120 that does happen. That was a common one, uh a 161 00:10:49.120 --> 00:10:51.799 few years ago where somebody would call up all of 162 00:10:51.840 --> 00:10:55.080 a sudden, a h A younger boye would get on 163 00:10:55.080 --> 00:10:58.600 the phone and say like grandma, grandpa and you know 164 00:10:59.080 --> 00:11:02.360 then whoever was was the grandmother and grandfather of someone. 165 00:11:02.639 --> 00:11:05.799 They would say like you know, Mary, is that you 166 00:11:06.320 --> 00:11:08.600 and then presson would get back on the phone, say yes, 167 00:11:08.600 --> 00:11:12.000 we have Mary. He's under arrest, and you know, we 168 00:11:12.039 --> 00:11:14.960 don't want it to be held in these conditions. So if 169 00:11:15.000 --> 00:11:17.279 you want to, you know, she arned five thousand, ten 170 00:11:17.320 --> 00:11:20.159 thousand dollars to bill them up. And I can remember 171 00:11:20.159 --> 00:11:23.279 one day there was a woman who got a phone 172 00:11:23.320 --> 00:11:26.600 call saying that her husband was involved in a crash 173 00:11:27.720 --> 00:11:30.879 and they had gone out of the car. You know, 174 00:11:30.960 --> 00:11:33.279 the people that she was talking to to exchange papers, 175 00:11:33.320 --> 00:11:35.559 and they put them in the trunk of the car 176 00:11:35.720 --> 00:11:37.559 and now they're driving around with them. Unless she gives 177 00:11:37.559 --> 00:11:40.600 them thousands of dollars, they were going to have them. 178 00:11:41.279 --> 00:11:44.360 So she called her husband's cell phone and he always 179 00:11:44.360 --> 00:11:46.320 answers the cell phone, but he didn't answer he that day, 180 00:11:47.320 --> 00:11:51.320 and she tried them through up the day, and finally 181 00:11:52.720 --> 00:11:56.080 she gave money to these people and then they called 182 00:11:56.080 --> 00:11:59.120 back saying they wanted more and lo and behold, her 183 00:11:59.159 --> 00:12:01.960 husband calls her on the other line is says, you know, honey, 184 00:12:01.960 --> 00:12:05.240 how are you know I got to uh turn my 185 00:12:05.600 --> 00:12:10.679 uh ringer on. So if you are want to these 186 00:12:10.720 --> 00:12:15.519 scammers and you send out thousands of phone calls a day, 187 00:12:16.039 --> 00:12:18.279 all it takes is one person for them to have 188 00:12:18.320 --> 00:12:21.919 hit the lottery, right, So you know, you never give 189 00:12:21.960 --> 00:12:22.480 any money. 190 00:12:23.279 --> 00:12:23.399 Uh. 191 00:12:24.120 --> 00:12:27.000 Always contact the police department always. 192 00:12:27.200 --> 00:12:27.320 Uh. 193 00:12:27.919 --> 00:12:29.879 And and you know something, there are a lot of 194 00:12:29.919 --> 00:12:34.240 people listening right now that have elderly parents. And this 195 00:12:34.320 --> 00:12:36.720 isn't you know, accrus with elderly people, but it seems 196 00:12:36.720 --> 00:12:39.240 like that's who they pray on. But you know, have 197 00:12:39.360 --> 00:12:42.639 these conversations with them. And I you know, I'll say 198 00:12:42.639 --> 00:12:44.639 it ten times and I've said it before. You gotta 199 00:12:44.639 --> 00:12:47.200 work on the front end. So whether it's an elderly 200 00:12:47.279 --> 00:12:50.360 parent that shouldn't be driving a vehicle, whether it's an 201 00:12:50.399 --> 00:12:54.919 elderly parent that may be starting to wane in the memory. Uh, 202 00:12:55.000 --> 00:12:58.159 and cognitively, you know, you just want to have these 203 00:12:58.440 --> 00:13:00.919 conversations with them and say, listen, you know, if you 204 00:13:00.960 --> 00:13:02.759 get these phone calls, don't do anything. If you get 205 00:13:02.799 --> 00:13:05.720 any emails, don't do anything. Never give out your information. 206 00:13:06.519 --> 00:13:08.200 If somebody says it with a bank and they need 207 00:13:08.240 --> 00:13:12.360 your bank social security and your bank number, you know, 208 00:13:12.639 --> 00:13:14.840 tell them to call you first, to call the police, 209 00:13:15.279 --> 00:13:19.519 just to verify it. 210 00:13:19.600 --> 00:13:24.919 Everybody panics when they hear these three letters I R S. 211 00:13:24.960 --> 00:13:28.799 The I R S does not call you. They communicate 212 00:13:28.919 --> 00:13:35.200 with paper correspondents. That's their first extension to you. So 213 00:13:35.679 --> 00:13:39.240 if someone's calling and saying, I'm with the I R S. 214 00:13:39.320 --> 00:13:42.759 My name is Agent Jones. You need to do X, 215 00:13:42.919 --> 00:13:45.240 Y and Z because you O A, B and C 216 00:13:47.279 --> 00:13:52.240 B scam Alert, you're being scammed. Yep. 217 00:13:52.279 --> 00:13:56.679 Absolutely, But again, when you phone thousands of people today, 218 00:13:57.480 --> 00:13:59.320 all they're hoping for is that one person. 219 00:13:59.799 --> 00:14:02.639 Yeah, yeah, and it makes it worth. 220 00:14:02.759 --> 00:14:04.320 While, yep. 221 00:14:04.360 --> 00:14:06.039 And it's very difficult to track down a lot of 222 00:14:06.080 --> 00:14:07.799 the people. A lot of times they may be operating 223 00:14:07.840 --> 00:14:10.639 out of another country and you know, people sending money 224 00:14:10.720 --> 00:14:14.320 orders to doing other ways of getting them the funds 225 00:14:14.320 --> 00:14:18.039 that they're requesting. So never ever give it out. And 226 00:14:18.039 --> 00:14:19.840 that's why again I go back to d a Ryan 227 00:14:20.000 --> 00:14:22.559 and she's working on the front of this for many years, 228 00:14:23.279 --> 00:14:25.480 going to the senior set, is talking to different people, 229 00:14:26.159 --> 00:14:29.519 having people in the banking industry show up and talk 230 00:14:29.559 --> 00:14:34.120 at some of these seminars. But don't ever give anything. 231 00:14:34.519 --> 00:14:38.240 That's that's the rule. Don't ever give anything out, money, 232 00:14:38.799 --> 00:14:44.440 your information, any any sort of something that's private to you. 233 00:14:45.440 --> 00:14:48.639 And because again they'll, uh, they'll just take advantage of 234 00:14:48.679 --> 00:14:51.279 it and they'll run with it. And the next thing 235 00:14:51.279 --> 00:14:53.960 you know you're thousands of dollars. 236 00:14:54.159 --> 00:14:59.320 Ninety Sure it's a ripoff. Let me go to West Roxbury. 237 00:15:00.159 --> 00:15:02.440 Take Catherine who was called in to speak to you, 238 00:15:02.879 --> 00:15:04.279 Lieutenant Bruce of Africa. 239 00:15:05.000 --> 00:15:10.120 Catherine, Hello, Hi, Hi'm Morgan. I really love your show. 240 00:15:10.279 --> 00:15:11.679 First of all, thank you. 241 00:15:11.639 --> 00:15:12.039 Thank you. 242 00:15:13.039 --> 00:15:17.000 And you're describing what happened to me. This was probably 243 00:15:17.000 --> 00:15:20.320 at least four or five months ago, and a lawyer 244 00:15:20.440 --> 00:15:25.519 called and said that he had my grandson and that 245 00:15:25.600 --> 00:15:29.200 my grandson was involved in an auto accident with a 246 00:15:29.240 --> 00:15:33.720 pregnant woman and he was going to be kept overnight 247 00:15:33.879 --> 00:15:39.000 in jail unless I sent seven thousand dollars, and because 248 00:15:39.039 --> 00:15:41.759 I was not going to do that immediately, I knew 249 00:15:41.840 --> 00:15:44.960 not to, but it scared me half to death. And 250 00:15:45.000 --> 00:15:48.639 then they put the voice on, which all young people 251 00:15:48.720 --> 00:15:52.399 sound the same to me anyway, and he sounded just 252 00:15:52.600 --> 00:15:57.120 like my grandson. But I still didn't do anything. And 253 00:15:57.919 --> 00:16:01.080 then I and they said, oh, don't call Oh the 254 00:16:01.200 --> 00:16:04.360 young boy said, don't call my mother. Don't whatever you do, 255 00:16:04.360 --> 00:16:06.159 don't call her, which is what I was going to 256 00:16:06.240 --> 00:16:10.799 do my daughter. But finally when they hung up, I 257 00:16:10.879 --> 00:16:15.639 called my other grandson and he immediately said, it's a scam, 258 00:16:16.480 --> 00:16:19.759 don't do anything. And I didn't know who to call 259 00:16:20.519 --> 00:16:22.879 to tell that it had happened. Now that you said, 260 00:16:23.000 --> 00:16:27.000 call the police. If it ever happens again, which it hasn't, 261 00:16:27.440 --> 00:16:30.679 I will do that. But I did call back. The 262 00:16:30.759 --> 00:16:33.840 man gave me his phone number, the lawyer, and I 263 00:16:33.960 --> 00:16:37.360 called back and he answered, and I said, are you 264 00:16:37.519 --> 00:16:42.360 really lying? And he hung right up on me, and 265 00:16:42.480 --> 00:16:43.440 that was the end of it. 266 00:16:44.360 --> 00:16:50.799 Ruce, Well, consider yourself lucky, but that has happened. You know, 267 00:16:50.840 --> 00:16:53.720 you want the loan in that And I'm sure there 268 00:16:53.720 --> 00:16:56.159 are other people that that phone call was made that 269 00:16:56.240 --> 00:16:58.039 day that actually probably gave him some money. 270 00:16:58.919 --> 00:17:02.600 Oh two days I saw the same thing on the 271 00:17:02.600 --> 00:17:08.839 news in the evening and mine was seven thousand. On 272 00:17:08.880 --> 00:17:12.279 the news they it went up to nine thousand. I 273 00:17:12.279 --> 00:17:16.079 don't know if it was the same man, but it 274 00:17:16.160 --> 00:17:20.400 was the same scam, and the woman gave it to them. 275 00:17:20.440 --> 00:17:22.759 They came to it was a young girl. She came 276 00:17:22.799 --> 00:17:27.720 to her house and picked up the money and they 277 00:17:27.720 --> 00:17:30.160 got away with it. But I think they did catch 278 00:17:30.599 --> 00:17:35.799 the girl. But yeah, it was very frightening, and I'm 279 00:17:35.880 --> 00:17:39.519 so glad I called my other grandson. I had to 280 00:17:39.559 --> 00:17:45.079 do something. I just couldn't. I couldn't let it go. 281 00:17:45.200 --> 00:17:48.160 I wasn't no way was I going to give them 282 00:17:48.160 --> 00:17:50.119 seven thousand, I said, do you expect me to go 283 00:17:52.200 --> 00:17:56.920 with seven thousand dollars I pocketbook or my pocket. 284 00:17:57.039 --> 00:17:59.720 You should not give them seven cents. You should not 285 00:17:59.799 --> 00:18:00.799 get them again. 286 00:18:01.920 --> 00:18:07.279 Never you work hard for your money, That's right. No, no, 287 00:18:07.400 --> 00:18:10.759 I would now never fall for anything like that. But 288 00:18:10.839 --> 00:18:13.359 I should have had the rest number, and I should 289 00:18:13.400 --> 00:18:16.160 have called the police. At least they would have had 290 00:18:16.200 --> 00:18:19.559 his number, you know, and it was fresh enough so 291 00:18:19.599 --> 00:18:23.799 that he answered my phone call, so chances are he 292 00:18:23.839 --> 00:18:27.319 would have answered the police. So now that I know that, 293 00:18:27.920 --> 00:18:30.599 and I hope I never get another one, but if 294 00:18:30.680 --> 00:18:34.519 I do, it's good to know exactly what to do. 295 00:18:35.160 --> 00:18:38.480 Catherine, Thank you for sharing. Thank you for sharing that story. 296 00:18:38.640 --> 00:18:41.400 Thank you, Catherine. I'm glad that you never ended up 297 00:18:41.400 --> 00:18:42.839 by giving him any money. 298 00:18:43.319 --> 00:18:46.240 Happy New Year to you, Okay, Happy New Year to 299 00:18:46.279 --> 00:18:46.640 you too. 300 00:18:46.680 --> 00:18:48.839 Both Happy. 301 00:18:50.200 --> 00:18:56.880 And Bruce. Go back two four ten years. You're sitting 302 00:18:56.920 --> 00:19:03.599 at your desk and Catherine called you that this has happened. 303 00:19:04.400 --> 00:19:09.240 What do you, as the representative of the police in Newton, 304 00:19:09.920 --> 00:19:11.960 what do you do when she gives you the number. 305 00:19:12.000 --> 00:19:16.160 Who's someone that's trying to pull this scam. 306 00:19:16.279 --> 00:19:17.640 Well, what we would do is we would have an 307 00:19:17.680 --> 00:19:21.079 officer speak to her. We would have an officer look 308 00:19:21.160 --> 00:19:23.559 up that phone number. You can get any information on it. 309 00:19:23.559 --> 00:19:27.559 See most likely it's probably a throwaway phone. Sometimes they 310 00:19:27.599 --> 00:19:29.839 can go over the internet and they can put in 311 00:19:29.839 --> 00:19:32.160 any number they want. That's why when someone calls up, 312 00:19:32.440 --> 00:19:34.599 think with me, I saw you know what the George 313 00:19:34.640 --> 00:19:37.359 of police departments. They can make it look like it's 314 00:19:37.400 --> 00:19:40.720 anybody you can. You know how many times a day 315 00:19:40.720 --> 00:19:44.079 do we all get these stam phone calls? And they 316 00:19:44.079 --> 00:19:45.799 can be on thet they can put it in any 317 00:19:45.839 --> 00:19:48.400 phone number they want. There was a while a few 318 00:19:48.480 --> 00:19:51.160 years ago, I must have got three or four phone 319 00:19:51.160 --> 00:19:54.000 calls within an owl. It was my phone number calling me. 320 00:19:55.839 --> 00:20:00.799 I recognize that number. But yeah, again, just when you 321 00:20:00.839 --> 00:20:05.200 think that you can then you've seen them all as 322 00:20:05.240 --> 00:20:09.440 another one. But again, they could be a million different scams. 323 00:20:09.680 --> 00:20:12.039 But you never give out your information. You never give 324 00:20:12.079 --> 00:20:15.359 in any money never. So no matter how, no matter 325 00:20:15.400 --> 00:20:18.640 how do you scam changes by not giving out any 326 00:20:18.640 --> 00:20:21.200 personal information, I'll giving out any money. They're going to 327 00:20:21.200 --> 00:20:24.000 go on to the next call and that's what you want. 328 00:20:24.079 --> 00:20:27.559 You want them not to pester you, but go away 329 00:20:27.599 --> 00:20:30.200 and try someone else and hopefully they'll be smart enough 330 00:20:30.279 --> 00:20:32.880 not to fall for it. I've got a news hit 331 00:20:32.960 --> 00:20:36.160 to take and when we come back from the news, 332 00:20:36.200 --> 00:20:41.319 we have Maryland and Watertown. So Maryland, be patient. We'll 333 00:20:41.319 --> 00:20:44.880 get to you quite shortly. Here on Night Side. Well, 334 00:20:44.920 --> 00:20:48.480 the time is ten thirty thirty five degrees. 335 00:20:52.559 --> 00:20:57.240 It's Night Side with Boston's news radio. 336 00:20:58.440 --> 00:21:04.640 We're in the middle of exposing scams. I've got former 337 00:21:04.680 --> 00:21:09.000 Lieutenant Bruce apothecar Arm with me. He was a lieutenant 338 00:21:09.000 --> 00:21:11.720 in the city of Newton. He was there. Did you 339 00:21:11.759 --> 00:21:13.839 say eighteen years of service? Bruce? 340 00:21:15.000 --> 00:21:17.079 Uh, thirty nine thirty nine. 341 00:21:17.079 --> 00:21:19.559 Oh, I don't know where I get eighteen thirty nine 342 00:21:19.640 --> 00:21:22.599 years of service. And we're talking about some of the 343 00:21:22.640 --> 00:21:29.400 more often used scams, carns, hustles that are out there. 344 00:21:29.440 --> 00:21:33.039 And let's go to Watertown and speak to Maryland. Maryland, 345 00:21:33.119 --> 00:21:35.440 thank you for calling. Welcome to Night's Side. 346 00:21:36.559 --> 00:21:39.799 Hey, I don't have an exciting story to tell you, 347 00:21:39.839 --> 00:21:43.559 but I had to call because this is my two 348 00:21:43.599 --> 00:21:48.640 favorite people. So I had to call and I respected 349 00:21:48.880 --> 00:21:52.160 you as a lieutenant, but I you know, I know 350 00:21:52.240 --> 00:21:55.039 you was Bruce, and I don't know how many Maryland 351 00:21:55.119 --> 00:21:58.519 Jane Bruce, but this is Marylynd Potito de Vienni and 352 00:21:58.799 --> 00:22:00.440 I lot. 353 00:22:01.480 --> 00:22:02.000 I know you. 354 00:22:03.400 --> 00:22:06.079 I didn't know how many Maryland or knew. But anyway, 355 00:22:06.279 --> 00:22:08.720 I got a call a couple of years ago and 356 00:22:08.799 --> 00:22:10.799 it was a young man and it was a voice 357 00:22:10.960 --> 00:22:14.599 I would say probably about sixteen. But like you, Bruce, 358 00:22:15.400 --> 00:22:17.079 my phone number came up. I thought that was a 359 00:22:17.079 --> 00:22:21.400 little strange. And he said, he says, Grandma, I was, 360 00:22:21.759 --> 00:22:25.200 you know, I was, I was raised or anything in 361 00:22:25.279 --> 00:22:28.400 my car and I got stopped and and I'm at 362 00:22:28.400 --> 00:22:30.519 the police station, and I don't want my mother and 363 00:22:30.559 --> 00:22:33.119 father to know. Could just send me some money? And 364 00:22:33.160 --> 00:22:36.200 I said, uh gee, I don't think I would send 365 00:22:36.240 --> 00:22:38.440 it all the way to Long Island, New York. I said, 366 00:22:38.440 --> 00:22:42.799 thanks for the call. My grandson. My grandson was out 367 00:22:42.839 --> 00:22:47.880 of college at that time, and I knew, you know, 368 00:22:47.920 --> 00:22:50.079 it was a young boys, and you know, I knew 369 00:22:50.119 --> 00:22:52.160 it was a scam. But I have to tell you 370 00:22:52.240 --> 00:22:54.440 I didn't call a police because I didn't figure they 371 00:22:54.480 --> 00:22:57.960 could do anything. Is that isn't is that right? 372 00:22:58.039 --> 00:22:59.119 What could have been done? 373 00:22:59.279 --> 00:22:59.480 You know? 374 00:23:00.799 --> 00:23:00.960 Well? 375 00:23:01.000 --> 00:23:02.680 And all that's who auty. You know, if they attempted 376 00:23:03.119 --> 00:23:07.920 h then is the chances of finding someone's probably very slim. 377 00:23:08.359 --> 00:23:11.400 But you know, we do like to know though, because 378 00:23:11.640 --> 00:23:13.400 see what trends are going on out there, because then 379 00:23:13.400 --> 00:23:18.119 you can educate the public by notifying us, uh the police. 380 00:23:18.200 --> 00:23:22.480 Now I was there, but by notifying the police, they 381 00:23:22.559 --> 00:23:24.799 can put out, you know, a local advisories. 382 00:23:25.680 --> 00:23:29.799 So if yeah, yeah, that's that's that's what it is. 383 00:23:30.160 --> 00:23:32.079 I should have I should have done that. I should 384 00:23:32.119 --> 00:23:35.039 have done that. But anyway, but no, it's always a 385 00:23:35.119 --> 00:23:37.200 pleasure of seeing you at all the events and Newton 386 00:23:37.599 --> 00:23:40.640 and this is my favorite, one of my favorite programs. 387 00:23:40.680 --> 00:23:42.920 I wish you were on more ROF and I listened 388 00:23:42.960 --> 00:23:44.039 to you all the time. 389 00:23:44.960 --> 00:23:45.279 Thank you. 390 00:23:45.960 --> 00:23:46.079 You know. 391 00:23:47.359 --> 00:23:52.359 Let me just say, Morgan Maryland is a true h 392 00:23:53.440 --> 00:23:57.319 a true local hero. She's a community uh activist. You 393 00:23:57.400 --> 00:24:01.279 see her everywhere and you might I don't know, Maryland, 394 00:24:01.279 --> 00:24:02.960 you want to say what you do for our work? 395 00:24:03.920 --> 00:24:11.799 Absolutely I had Morgan, I have to tell you. He 396 00:24:11.920 --> 00:24:14.160 brought it up. I wasn't going to say. I was 397 00:24:14.200 --> 00:24:17.200 an elected governors council of for thirty two towns and 398 00:24:17.279 --> 00:24:21.160 cities from AYR to Boston for twenty five years and 399 00:24:21.279 --> 00:24:26.240 I got defeated after twenty five years in September. Yeah, 400 00:24:26.720 --> 00:24:32.000 and you know, I didn't fight the lies. I took 401 00:24:32.079 --> 00:24:34.559