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<v Speaker 1>Hello, and welcome to Batflips and Nerds baseball podcast with

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<v Speaker 1>a British twist. I am your host this evening, Ben Carter,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm joined by two baseball luminaries and cat lovers,

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<v Speaker 1>the first being the new cat parent Rob Navera. How

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<v Speaker 1>are you rong?

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<v Speaker 2>Cat dadd it up? Absolutely? They are little bastards who

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<v Speaker 2>they ate a nine pack of crumpets overnight. I left

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<v Speaker 2>crumpets sealed, sealed pack of crumpets. They d a nine

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<v Speaker 2>pack of crumpets and like if you couldnsider, like how

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<v Speaker 2>big a crumpet is? Like that's the equivalent of me

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<v Speaker 2>eating like a sofa overnight. Like other than that, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they're glorious.

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<v Speaker 1>And our grizzled veteran of cat parenting, John Wigee is

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<v Speaker 1>here revel in Rob's misery. How are you John?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, we need to need to change the name

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<v Speaker 3>of the podcast to cat Dads and Nerds or something

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<v Speaker 3>like that. I think just just for this one episode. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it's good, it's it's it's good. We've established that Rob

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<v Speaker 3>and both Rob and miambience is cat toilet in the background.

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<v Speaker 3>If there's anything hedonistic that comes out and you feel

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<v Speaker 3>like we might be under the influence of some weird hallucinogenics.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what it is. Cat litter.

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<v Speaker 1>See if a YouTube algorithm likes that listening it's not pictured.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't worry. You can still tune in without seeing cat litter.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got plenty to get through today. It's been a

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<v Speaker 1>little while since our last pod, and very long while

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<v Speaker 1>actually since we've had John on. So excited to get

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<v Speaker 1>some some takes from you on the things happening around baseball,

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<v Speaker 1>but we've Aughtwa's start maybe with some topics a bit

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<v Speaker 1>closer to home. Very sad I am anyway that there's

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<v Speaker 1>no MB London series this year. We're kind of around

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<v Speaker 1>the time of year that that has typically happened in

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<v Speaker 1>the past. Obviously this year a down year, a fallow

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<v Speaker 1>year in the words of Glastonbury. So we will instead

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<v Speaker 1>be waiting to.

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<v Speaker 3>Talk about Glastonbury. Not not when I'm an employee of

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<v Speaker 3>the BB So that's just get me into all sorts

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<v Speaker 3>of shovel this week, Ben carry on.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry, should know all it up. But instead of MB

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<v Speaker 1>London series, we have as of last week, had an

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<v Speaker 1>announcement about an event taking place in London instead, which

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be called the MLB Hackney Bridge Takeover.

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<v Speaker 1>We're a little short on details right now, but we

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<v Speaker 1>do know it will be taking place on the weekend

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<v Speaker 1>of the first to the third of August. I have

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<v Speaker 1>taking place, funnily enough at Hackney Bridge, and there are

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<v Speaker 1>some some details about there being representation of four teams,

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<v Speaker 1>the bit the biggest team so some might say, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess Dodgers, Yankees, Giants, Red Sox. Each will have a

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<v Speaker 1>themed zone, There will be game watch along's immersive baseball experiences,

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<v Speaker 1>and obviously more details to come very soon. It will

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<v Speaker 1>be free to attend, which is great and it feels like,

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<v Speaker 1>whilst it's not a game in and of itself, it

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<v Speaker 1>feels like a nice replacement in terms of just something

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<v Speaker 1>that we can go to, rally around, enjoy chat with

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<v Speaker 1>other baseball fans at given that we don't yeah have

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<v Speaker 1>the game to go to this year. So I know

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<v Speaker 1>you guys don't have a ton to react to in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of details from what was shared, but I'm interested

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<v Speaker 1>to hear a your thoughts on whether this has been

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<v Speaker 1>a weirder summer of baseball for you without the London

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<v Speaker 1>game in the middle of it, and be you know

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<v Speaker 1>what you would like to see from this Hackney Bridge

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<v Speaker 1>event and what you think could could help pull fans

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<v Speaker 1>in in a year where they don't have the game here,

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<v Speaker 1>Let's start with you, John.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it has been slightly odd. I mean, it's been

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<v Speaker 3>odd not to have that opportunity for us all to

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<v Speaker 3>get together and meet the people who listen to the

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<v Speaker 3>show what's the show and YouTube and who were in

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<v Speaker 3>contact with the you know, discord groups and WhatsApp groups

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<v Speaker 3>and stuff. So primarily for that reason, it's been odd

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<v Speaker 3>not to have that anchor around which I plan the

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<v Speaker 3>rest of my summer, to be honest. But yeah, like

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<v Speaker 3>it really does sort of galvanize your focus. I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>so I haven't been watching baseball like I absolutely have.

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<v Speaker 3>I have it on all the time. But at the

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<v Speaker 3>same time, it's like, right, if I know that these

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<v Speaker 3>I need to be locked in on these teams and

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<v Speaker 3>instead I have you know, I'm not quite at Tom

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<v Speaker 3>Pringle level, but I have mostly been focused on Red

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<v Speaker 3>Sox baseball and then watching whatever's on the FI, tuning

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<v Speaker 3>into like TNT and seeing what's on every now and again.

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<v Speaker 3>But I would like every be like, right, Well, it's

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<v Speaker 3>the Philly, isn't it's the It's the Mets. So I

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<v Speaker 3>need to understand who are on those teams, who's good,

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<v Speaker 3>what are they doing, what's at stake here? What are

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<v Speaker 3>the storylines that I need to understand so we can

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<v Speaker 3>have a conversation about it, we can try and chat

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<v Speaker 3>to some of the players about it and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 3>So there's not been that extra wrinkle, so that that

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<v Speaker 3>has been a bit of a shame. I do think

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<v Speaker 3>it's great that that the MLB Europe guys are doing something.

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<v Speaker 3>I had heard this, you know, obviously we're part of

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<v Speaker 3>the LB Europe Fan Network now with the MLB UK

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<v Speaker 3>Clubhouse guys, so they had told us that they were

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<v Speaker 3>planning something, and to be clear, we don't have any

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<v Speaker 3>more details than what's in the public domain now, so

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<v Speaker 3>I was anticipating something. I'm really glad to see it.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's a great place for it to be.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, we that's really close to the ballpark. When

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<v Speaker 3>there have been a series on there in the past,

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<v Speaker 3>we've tended to congregate around there, and you know, there's

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<v Speaker 3>some really good breweries, really cool restaurants. It's a really

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<v Speaker 3>nice vibe around there. They're Mets held a really great

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<v Speaker 3>pregame event in that part of London last year which

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<v Speaker 3>we had an opportunity to pop into a real party

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<v Speaker 3>atmosphere around there, So it's a really it's the perfect

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<v Speaker 3>place to be doing it. I'm a friend's wedding. I

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<v Speaker 3>think we're going to be quite poorly represented that week end.

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<v Speaker 3>Of understand rightly, I think it might only be you

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<v Speaker 3>Ben right, It's just the timing couldn't be worse in

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<v Speaker 3>terms of us having you know, other things on. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a bit from frustrated. It's not one week either side,

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<v Speaker 3>which would have been perfect for me. But hey, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure that you'll have plenty of tequila on my

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<v Speaker 3>behalf night, won't you do my best?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's a shame, I know. Yeah, Tom can't make it,

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<v Speaker 1>Darius Russell even Rob you are you around that weekend

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<v Speaker 1>or are you also?

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<v Speaker 2>I have a ridiculous Saturday family engagement. But if I

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<v Speaker 2>care and I will ditch those losers and try and.

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<v Speaker 1>Get fingers crossed. But yeah, I mean, I'm sure it

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<v Speaker 1>will be a great event and I'm interested. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess in terms of what we think will be there.

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<v Speaker 1>My guess Is Gomes and Nick Swisher probably they're always

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<v Speaker 1>there live in London at this point. I'm sure there'll

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<v Speaker 1>be yeah, food trucks, some clid, some sort of throwing

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<v Speaker 1>or hitting activation, space bubs, anything that you'd like to

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<v Speaker 1>see their rob that you think could help capture the

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<v Speaker 1>interest of the British public, or anything that you converse

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<v Speaker 1>you would love for not not to be there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, absolutely, first, first and foremost, some shade would be lovely.

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<v Speaker 2>We all remember the home run Derby that that was

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit warm. There was one tree for for

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<v Speaker 2>ten thousand people or whatever it was. So so as

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<v Speaker 2>long as there's somewhere shady to sit a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>hot baseball this year, like it's hot right now. It's

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<v Speaker 2>been exceedingly hot when I was in the US this year.

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<v Speaker 2>So yes, just some shavee would be absolutely lovely. I

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<v Speaker 2>tell you, what's something I've missed that they did in

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<v Speaker 2>the first time around. I want to pelt a ball

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<v Speaker 2>at a washing machine again. You know that was that

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<v Speaker 2>was great fun first time round. You know, like why

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<v Speaker 2>like we've we've had the VR stuff. We could throw

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<v Speaker 2>a ball and see how fast it's got. Great, wonderful.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to pelt something every day with a baseball

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<v Speaker 2>again and break it because that was that was really fun.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, if they could bring that back, that would

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<v Speaker 2>be super well. So got uh some merch, some interesting merch.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they did a really good job in the

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<v Speaker 2>Phillies Mets game where there was it wasn't just your

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<v Speaker 2>basic stuff, Like they had some interesting shirts that were

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<v Speaker 2>a bit different. You know, Becky picked up a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of women were there. It was it was different and

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<v Speaker 2>it marked the occasion. So yes, merchant is a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit more interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>The Haunted Hawaiians Hawaiian shirt from it was the new

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<v Speaker 3>era one. Oh that one we had to go and

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<v Speaker 3>buy for Trevor May.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, exactly, something like that. I want more controversial merchandise, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>like like give me a Yankees red Sox blend scarf,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, half and half scuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely, Yeah, give me.

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<v Speaker 2>Some controversial merch that that works to our audience. I'll

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<v Speaker 2>take some of that. Can we have I'd like some

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<v Speaker 2>constant baseball to watch. I think I think it's important

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<v Speaker 2>that that we're not just there to eat food by merch.

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<v Speaker 2>We actually are there to watch some baseball as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Like let's have stuff on the on the big screens

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<v Speaker 2>Fargus Square. I thought in the last couple of years

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<v Speaker 2>there was there was a lot of short clips and stings,

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<v Speaker 2>a bit more just like, here is a baseball game.

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<v Speaker 2>Watch this, even if it's you not on yet, Let's

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<v Speaker 2>put on yesterday. Let's have let's have something to watch,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, that'd be that'd be great washing machines. I've said, yeah, well,

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<v Speaker 2>player hosts, player hosts. Yeah, let's uh yeah, let's have

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<v Speaker 2>some some hosts who actually know what they're talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>Max has done a great job over the last couple

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<v Speaker 2>of years. So if he comes back happy with that,

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<v Speaker 2>no problem at all. But you know, let's let's have

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<v Speaker 2>some some hosting from rather than your your generic hype

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<v Speaker 2>person who's paid to be a hyper person, Let's have

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<v Speaker 2>someone who knows what they're talking about. You know, let's

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<v Speaker 2>have have maybe some fans, maybe some players, whatever. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>le let's get someone like that. I think that would

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<v Speaker 2>that that would draw it in a bit and make

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<v Speaker 2>it bigger. But yeah, you know what, it's something rather

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<v Speaker 2>than nothing, and it's free.

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<v Speaker 3>Everything saying here, I'm just hearing more work for Felix White.

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<v Speaker 3>The money can't get enough of the MLB dollar. He's

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<v Speaker 3>quite busy. He's quite busy with his mats, hearing his

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<v Speaker 3>mat sum. Felix can bring his mats, definitely. I want

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<v Speaker 3>to see you. I want to see Felix playing out

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<v Speaker 3>some maccabe's licks on the mets that that's going to

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<v Speaker 3>be open in the show, you know, with a bit

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<v Speaker 3>of Pelican or latchme or something.

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<v Speaker 2>That's how we're still deep diving.

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<v Speaker 3>Now those are their two, but those are two of

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<v Speaker 3>their bigger hits. Rob genuinely a band. I genuinely like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>get Felix along hopefully. Why aren't they going to Why

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<v Speaker 3>don't they bring along his compadres. Why don't we have

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<v Speaker 3>the brilliant Melanie and Xavier. Again, I don't know how

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<v Speaker 3>you would like bring them into it, but they would

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<v Speaker 3>be good. I'm assuming there's going to be some reps

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<v Speaker 3>of all four of the teams, as they said, Johnny

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<v Speaker 3>Gomes and Nick Usher. Which absolute randos are they going

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<v Speaker 3>to get from the Dodgers the Giants. That's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>Pablo would be great. My mind went to just how

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<v Speaker 1>extraordinarily extraordinarily upset Darius would be if Tim Mintskom showed up,

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<v Speaker 1>Hunter Pence that it's gotta be came along and for

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<v Speaker 1>That's it's a relief to most people that we aren't

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<v Speaker 3>From the who from the Dodgers when they were sort

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, please green Key, let's get him.

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<v Speaker 1>Well. I've had a quick look at at the schedule

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<v Speaker 1>for that weekend and there are some good games on actually,

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<v Speaker 2>Rob.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got a Dodgers Ray series that will be fun

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<v Speaker 2>So look, I think, what's the bad series? Come on,

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<v Speaker 2>what's the bad series?

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<v Speaker 3>Is quite poor. That's a team who is somehow okay,

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<v Speaker 3>and yet it has no plays you want to watch.

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<v Speaker 1>next year. We've obviously had a few games over here

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<v Speaker 1>As for who they would play, I don't know. It

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<v Speaker 1>But which of those teams, I'm not sure. Is there

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<v Speaker 3>outside the box, I think that because because I'm like Rob,

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<v Speaker 3>obviously Giants, Giants, and Dodgers is where your mind obviously goes.

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<v Speaker 3>Or like the two Texas teams, Houston and the Rangers

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<v Speaker 3>Central rivalry, but then there's just a load of craft

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<v Speaker 3>teens so apart from the Tigers. Now the Tigers are

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<v Speaker 3>actually good now, but then who would they play? Like

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<v Speaker 3>the Guardians but good teams? Well, yeah, I mean, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know. I think you probably still do, right, It's

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<v Speaker 3>not me, it's it's I think we I remember having

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<v Speaker 3>it could be anyone and it would sell out, right,

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<v Speaker 3>it could be the Raising the Rockies and it would

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<v Speaker 3>sold out, but it's been a bit more difficult for

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<v Speaker 3>subsequent years. So I do think they probably want to

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<v Speaker 3>You know, we weren't getting the Jacksonville Jaguars every year

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<v Speaker 3>for the NFL Games until they've been on for ten years. Right,

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, from their point of view, I mean, look,

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<v Speaker 3>it was the Guardians versus the Pirates, for example, for

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<v Speaker 2>I think we could give the A's and raise their

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<v Speaker 2>that would be fun, and we'd only have to only

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<v Speaker 3>So I just moved I also realized I just moved

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<v Speaker 1>I like the idea of raised versus A's and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>winner keeps the ballpark and just just do it that way.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's move on then to uh oh, sorry, finnal point on.

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<v Speaker 1>That was just to say, even though that happening, event

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<v Speaker 1>at one on Sunday. The fine folks at MBUK Clubhouse

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<v Speaker 1>They want to try and create these sort of little

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<v Speaker 1>then go to and watch games with. Tealow fans that

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<v Speaker 3>They are really desperate for people to be putting on

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<v Speaker 3>events in Manchester, Glasgow, Newcastle, Leeds, Belfast, Dublin. Wherever it

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<v Speaker 3>is that you're watching and listening, there's other baseball fans

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<v Speaker 3>and be a really great way to to get to

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<v Speaker 1>Couldn't have said it better. Let's move on to All

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<v Speaker 1>Star voting then? Do we care? Maybe we're going to

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<v Speaker 3>No, sorry, yes, yes, yes, yes, and yes I really care.

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<v Speaker 1>We're very close to the All Star Game now, which

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<v Speaker 1>is weird. I think it's only a week or two away.

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<v Speaker 1>As of recording. The starters for each position are going

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<v Speaker 1>to be announced tonight on MLB Network. This is on Wednesday,

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<v Speaker 1>and the full rosters will be announced I believe on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 1>So some of this might age poorly based on where happens.

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<v Speaker 2>Everything we're going to say is going to be immediately

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the way it's working this show is a bit different,

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<v Speaker 1>right because they've got these like this is now phase

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<v Speaker 1>exactly how this is all worked compared to the previous

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five times. It's more nuanced this year, and that

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<v Speaker 1>we've already had phase one. You missed that, and Phase

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<v Speaker 1>two is happening now, and so it's a very narrow

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<v Speaker 1>down field of finalists that you can now vote for

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<v Speaker 1>already we kind of know who the big names are

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<v Speaker 1>that are likely to be involved in who the big

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<v Speaker 1>names are that aren't Sho Tany and Aaron Judge are

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<v Speaker 1>know what that means, but good for them. That feels

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<v Speaker 1>like a good decision. And then yeah, the final voting

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<v Speaker 1>will be taking place tonight. Plenty of teams that haven't

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<v Speaker 1>been ripped. Autocratic was it? There was no democracy involved

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<v Speaker 1>vote getters in phase one. It's like proportional representation.

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<v Speaker 1>Politics there for everyone, pivot, pivot and so so. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>League and American League. I guess I'll throw it to

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<v Speaker 1>you guys, John you first, Yeah, you do you care

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<v Speaker 1>about who makes the All Star Team? I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>like a night accolade for players to get the nod

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<v Speaker 1>for having a good season. But are you going to

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<v Speaker 3>swing of players. I think that's absolute horseshit. But I

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<v Speaker 3>like watching that. The All Star Game, I do quite

418
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<v Speaker 3>like it. Like I don't go out of my way

419
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<v Speaker 3>to watch it. But if there's a rerun of it on,

420
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<v Speaker 3>you know, an afternoon, and I've got quiet one at

421
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<v Speaker 3>work and I can put it on in the background,

422
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<v Speaker 3>then I'm really like, I quite would quite like to

423
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<v Speaker 3>see it. It's not like, you know, all Star games

424
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<v Speaker 3>in other sports, you know, the one in the NBA

425
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<v Speaker 3>is notorious something played at half pace, and the one

426
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<v Speaker 3>in the NFL like no one shows.

427
00:21:51.640 --> 00:21:54.240
<v Speaker 1>Up right, literally flag football now it is.

428
00:21:54.359 --> 00:21:59.039
<v Speaker 3>It is actually played at the least decent degree of competitiveness,

429
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<v Speaker 3>and I have to, I have to say, quite admire

430
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<v Speaker 3>that because it doesn't have to be. I think there's

431
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<v Speaker 3>something in the nature of the sport that you kind

432
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<v Speaker 3>of you kind of can't half cock it. Really. You know,

433
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<v Speaker 3>if you if you were going to throw the ball

434
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<v Speaker 3>at fifty miles an hour, it would just be a

435
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<v Speaker 3>complete farce. So they just can't do it. So yeah,

436
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<v Speaker 3>as as a speculat as a spectacle, I think it

437
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<v Speaker 3>works quite well. It doesn't really matter to me who's

438
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<v Speaker 3>playing in it, though, you know, I mean as I said,

439
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<v Speaker 3>particularly because my team stinks and the only player who

440
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<v Speaker 3>would have been good enough to play in it they

441
00:22:31.039 --> 00:22:35.079
<v Speaker 3>traded it to the flipping Giants. Yeah, and then oh yeah,

442
00:22:35.119 --> 00:22:37.960
<v Speaker 3>Alex Bregman. You vote for Alex Bregman. He's injured. He's

443
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<v Speaker 3>literally not going to play even if he wins the vote,

444
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<v Speaker 3>which he shouldn't because I say Ramirez is better than

445
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<v Speaker 3>him anyway, Like, come on, so like from that point

446
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<v Speaker 3>of view. From a partial point of view, I don't.

447
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<v Speaker 3>I don't really care. I just like to see the

448
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<v Speaker 3>best players. I don't have a cal rally top, but

449
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<v Speaker 3>I do have Mark Maguire showing his huge dumper. So

450
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<v Speaker 3>that's my rooting interest in the All Star Game this year.

451
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<v Speaker 3>That said, I do you think Carlos Snowyas should be

452
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<v Speaker 3>in the vote because he's the best player in baseball.

453
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<v Speaker 1>Let's get onto some snubs, then rob a couple from

454
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<v Speaker 1>your team. Who are you most unhappy not to see

455
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<v Speaker 1>in phase two of All Star Game voting?

456
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<v Speaker 2>Snubs? Okay, I've got a list, so I mean the

457
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<v Speaker 2>first one, I think Jeremy Paynier, and I think this

458
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<v Speaker 2>is this is twofold. So the reason Jeremy Paynier, I

459
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<v Speaker 2>mean he is injured now, so it's probably not a problem.

460
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<v Speaker 2>But the reason Jeremy Paynier hasn't got the vote is

461
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<v Speaker 2>largely down to the fact that since the cheating scandal,

462
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<v Speaker 2>no one votes for the Astros. They don't get the

463
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<v Speaker 2>votes yet for some reason, injured Alex Brigman, who was

464
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<v Speaker 2>on the team when that happened, has got the votes,

465
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<v Speaker 2>and Jeremy Paynier, who wasn't has fallen foul of the

466
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<v Speaker 2>of the Astros curse. So that feels like a really

467
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<v Speaker 2>really unjust snub.

468
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<v Speaker 3>I don't get the thing, by the way, because like

469
00:24:02.000 --> 00:24:05.839
<v Speaker 3>notoriously Red Sox fans don't vote in these things, Like

470
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<v Speaker 3>how has Fregman got through now that he's no longer

471
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<v Speaker 3>on the as he must have seemed well liked.

472
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<v Speaker 2>He's quite good. Yeah, so yeah, Page is probably my

473
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<v Speaker 2>number one. Jonathan Randa. Jonathan Randa, there is ridiculous that

474
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<v Speaker 2>he's not in it. He is by far, look at

475
00:24:26.319 --> 00:24:30.480
<v Speaker 2>any metric across al first baseman, he's the best. There's

476
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<v Speaker 2>there's just not an argument there yet. Yeah, Vladimigarero and

477
00:24:34.519 --> 00:24:37.440
<v Speaker 2>all of Canada have voted him in, and the Yankees

478
00:24:37.440 --> 00:24:40.599
<v Speaker 2>have voted Paul Goldschmid in. Both of those players that

479
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<v Speaker 2>there is no argument for either of them being as

480
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<v Speaker 2>good as Jonathan Aronda. So that's a snub that's not

481
00:24:46.319 --> 00:24:49.400
<v Speaker 2>fair Byron Buxton, another guy from a from a team

482
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<v Speaker 2>who is just not that that on Vogue, like he's

483
00:24:53.480 --> 00:24:55.920
<v Speaker 2>been immense, He's been really quietly imense because he's playing

484
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<v Speaker 2>for the Twins and whoever talks about the twins, but

485
00:24:58.839 --> 00:25:01.640
<v Speaker 2>you know we've got Haby Byers and like Trout elected,

486
00:25:02.559 --> 00:25:05.160
<v Speaker 2>who are their combined war is not the same as

487
00:25:05.200 --> 00:25:08.880
<v Speaker 2>Byron Buxton's like it's just a face. So yeah, those

488
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<v Speaker 2>be my my, oh James Wood. Can't not mention the

489
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<v Speaker 2>fact that James Wood has missed out here immense immense,

490
00:25:16.039 --> 00:25:19.359
<v Speaker 2>fantastic first season, like he is Britain a second season,

491
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<v Speaker 2>but he's immant. The fact that he's not in the

492
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<v Speaker 2>short list is bizarre.

493
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<v Speaker 3>So it's the thing. Those is the thing about Wood,

494
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<v Speaker 3>not though he's obviously been good all season, but he's

495
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<v Speaker 3>been like spectacularly good for the past three weeks.

496
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<v Speaker 2>Like during the voting phrase.

497
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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely miss up, but he was already out by then,

498
00:25:37.799 --> 00:25:40.359
<v Speaker 3>like these absolute nukes that he's been hitting at like

499
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<v Speaker 3>one hundred and twenty miles an hour. That's been like

500
00:25:42.599 --> 00:25:45.440
<v Speaker 3>the last three weeks. And that's when people have started

501
00:25:45.480 --> 00:25:47.160
<v Speaker 3>to talk about because the other one that was on

502
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<v Speaker 3>my list back to like first base, and I think

503
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<v Speaker 3>again it's like recency has been the challenge is Nick

504
00:25:53.359 --> 00:25:56.359
<v Speaker 3>Kurtz again, if you want like the players who are

505
00:25:56.519 --> 00:25:59.880
<v Speaker 3>the most fun to watch right now, he absolutely is

506
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<v Speaker 3>on that list because he just cannot stop hitting doing it,

507
00:26:03.480 --> 00:26:06.160
<v Speaker 3>so I definitely want him over Jacob Wilson. I mean,

508
00:26:06.240 --> 00:26:09.519
<v Speaker 3>come on, it's like watching Paul Collingwood nerd ale O

509
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<v Speaker 3>one hundred and seventy not how that. No, thanks, I

510
00:26:14.759 --> 00:26:17.720
<v Speaker 3>would like to watch Paul Collingwood undred and seventy not

511
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<v Speaker 3>upbringing back, but bridget get Collie down there. Imagine Felix

512
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<v Speaker 3>if Colly showed up, bloody hell, there'll be two two

513
00:26:28.680 --> 00:26:33.880
<v Speaker 3>on the old Mets. I can hear a cat there.

514
00:26:33.880 --> 00:26:37.519
<v Speaker 3>You got into Paul Collingwood.

515
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<v Speaker 2>Apparently, So yeah, she's going a bit mental right now.

516
00:26:41.319 --> 00:26:43.119
<v Speaker 2>He's seeing things, aren't there. I'm a little bit scared

517
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<v Speaker 2>of demons.

518
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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, Yeah, I think we've covered yeah, most of

519
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<v Speaker 1>the times. Of the other one I had was was

520
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<v Speaker 1>Corbyn Carroll, who I think has since got a little

521
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<v Speaker 1>bit injured, but he was having an excellent season and

522
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<v Speaker 1>hopefully will continue that once he's healthy again. I guess

523
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<v Speaker 1>we do find every year like there are guys who

524
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<v Speaker 1>would get injured between ross and now on the game,

525
00:27:00.640 --> 00:27:02.319
<v Speaker 1>and obviously with the pictures, a bunch of them men

526
00:27:02.400 --> 00:27:05.119
<v Speaker 1>are not being available for whatever reason scheduling, why's heading

527
00:27:05.200 --> 00:27:06.400
<v Speaker 1>up to the game, So I'm sure a lot of

528
00:27:06.440 --> 00:27:09.359
<v Speaker 1>the snubbed players will end up sneaking onto a roster.

529
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<v Speaker 3>Wood is definitely going to be picked. There are no

530
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<v Speaker 3>other Washington Nationals that we're going to take that place

531
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<v Speaker 3>ahead of him. Hence why I feel perfectly comfortable about

532
00:27:19.799 --> 00:27:22.759
<v Speaker 3>my bro Carlos Navas. He is definitely going to be

533
00:27:22.759 --> 00:27:25.359
<v Speaker 3>in the All Start, All Start squad for the AAR.

534
00:27:26.519 --> 00:27:28.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there are a few teams where it's tricky to

535
00:27:28.519 --> 00:27:32.400
<v Speaker 1>find a worthy representative, but fortunately we don't have that job.

536
00:27:32.599 --> 00:27:34.480
<v Speaker 3>Hey, your oldest Chapman's going to be back in the

537
00:27:34.480 --> 00:27:38.799
<v Speaker 3>All Star Game? Aren't we all glad about that? Get older?

538
00:27:39.279 --> 00:27:44.240
<v Speaker 3>Looking forward to seeing him close it out? Guys, great, Hey,

539
00:27:44.440 --> 00:27:48.720
<v Speaker 3>just as one really horrible picture wines, another one comes back.

540
00:27:48.920 --> 00:27:51.000
<v Speaker 3>We're not talking about him, but everyone knows. See I'm

541
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<v Speaker 3>talking about lol enormous low.

542
00:27:54.319 --> 00:27:57.279
<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about a picture that we do like a

543
00:27:57.559 --> 00:28:01.000
<v Speaker 1>very tall lefty named Tarik scoobled and if you heard him,

544
00:28:01.119 --> 00:28:02.640
<v Speaker 1>but he's making a bit of a name for himself,

545
00:28:02.640 --> 00:28:05.440
<v Speaker 1>the reigning al Cy Young Award winner. If he hadn't

546
00:28:05.480 --> 00:28:09.680
<v Speaker 1>caught your attention, let who he's good? Isn't he? I

547
00:28:09.720 --> 00:28:12.599
<v Speaker 1>don't really have much more to say than that Sunday

548
00:28:12.680 --> 00:28:14.559
<v Speaker 1>Night Baseball. I obviously didn't watch it, but I saw

549
00:28:14.599 --> 00:28:17.079
<v Speaker 1>the highlights and he I mean, if anyone who was

550
00:28:17.079 --> 00:28:19.039
<v Speaker 1>a casual fan in the US who thought I was

551
00:28:19.039 --> 00:28:20.279
<v Speaker 1>just tune into the game tonight and see what the

552
00:28:20.279 --> 00:28:22.799
<v Speaker 1>fuss is about, got a pretty good representation of what

553
00:28:22.839 --> 00:28:25.599
<v Speaker 1>the fuss is about. I think he struck out eleven,

554
00:28:25.640 --> 00:28:28.000
<v Speaker 1>including seven or eight in a row at one point.

555
00:28:28.279 --> 00:28:31.400
<v Speaker 1>He's been lights out basically for the whole season, but

556
00:28:31.559 --> 00:28:35.400
<v Speaker 1>especially in the last two months or so. Think correct

557
00:28:35.400 --> 00:28:37.519
<v Speaker 1>me if you think I'm wrong that he is established

558
00:28:37.559 --> 00:28:40.759
<v Speaker 1>himself as the best picture in baseball basically without comparison

559
00:28:40.799 --> 00:28:43.559
<v Speaker 1>at this point. Skis is awesome, Moto is awesome, the

560
00:28:43.599 --> 00:28:46.640
<v Speaker 1>Grom's been great, But I think scooball with his body

561
00:28:46.640 --> 00:28:48.640
<v Speaker 1>of work over the last eighteen months, is the best

562
00:28:48.640 --> 00:28:50.400
<v Speaker 1>in the game right now. And I guess my question

563
00:28:50.519 --> 00:28:55.400
<v Speaker 1>is best in the game since who my mind went

564
00:28:55.680 --> 00:28:57.839
<v Speaker 1>to Jacob de Grom and that crazy run he did

565
00:28:57.880 --> 00:28:59.559
<v Speaker 1>have with the Mets. I guess it must have been

566
00:28:59.559 --> 00:29:02.720
<v Speaker 1>five plus years ago now when Yeah, he pitched to

567
00:29:02.720 --> 00:29:04.160
<v Speaker 1>a whatever it was at one point six eighty ra

568
00:29:04.359 --> 00:29:07.559
<v Speaker 1>or something insane and kept losing games. But yeah, to me,

569
00:29:07.599 --> 00:29:10.200
<v Speaker 1>it feels like Scoobol has reached that level of dominance.

570
00:29:10.720 --> 00:29:12.880
<v Speaker 1>Who does he remind you of? Who would you put

571
00:29:12.920 --> 00:29:14.799
<v Speaker 1>up against him over the last decade in terms of

572
00:29:14.880 --> 00:29:16.119
<v Speaker 1>pitchers at the top of their game.

573
00:29:17.079 --> 00:29:21.720
<v Speaker 2>Uh, you can't think too far past Clayton Kershaw when

574
00:29:21.720 --> 00:29:25.359
<v Speaker 2>he was at his peak. That's sort of twenty eighteen

575
00:29:25.400 --> 00:29:30.400
<v Speaker 2>twenty nineteen era. He was, you know, all fantasy people

576
00:29:30.440 --> 00:29:32.039
<v Speaker 2>were drafting him number one. It was you know, he

577
00:29:32.079 --> 00:29:34.559
<v Speaker 2>was going over Trout, you know, And I think at

578
00:29:34.559 --> 00:29:38.720
<v Speaker 2>that point he was he was ascendant, untouchable, and Scoopol's

579
00:29:38.799 --> 00:29:41.839
<v Speaker 2>kind of got that right now. Like you it was

580
00:29:41.920 --> 00:29:45.920
<v Speaker 2>unfortunate he had a rough outing in the end of

581
00:29:46.000 --> 00:29:49.240
<v Speaker 2>the playoffs last last year when he when they went out,

582
00:29:50.440 --> 00:29:52.240
<v Speaker 2>because that's really the only sort of dent in his

583
00:29:52.319 --> 00:29:54.440
<v Speaker 2>armor in the last two years. The guy's just been

584
00:29:55.920 --> 00:29:59.119
<v Speaker 2>the absolute bomb ever since. And so yeah, I mean

585
00:29:59.599 --> 00:30:01.720
<v Speaker 2>Kershaw for me, that's that's that's who he's reminding me of.

586
00:30:01.759 --> 00:30:04.240
<v Speaker 2>I can't you know, he's that Okay, we're going to

587
00:30:04.279 --> 00:30:06.240
<v Speaker 2>lose this game, you know that they they had a

588
00:30:06.359 --> 00:30:08.200
<v Speaker 2>chance of It was a double header and it was

589
00:30:08.240 --> 00:30:10.839
<v Speaker 2>scooball and schemes, and they could have gone up against

590
00:30:10.880 --> 00:30:13.240
<v Speaker 2>each other and there was a there was a chicken

591
00:30:13.279 --> 00:30:15.640
<v Speaker 2>out element there. I said, well, you know, no, let's

592
00:30:15.720 --> 00:30:17.720
<v Speaker 2>let's go them. Let's trade a game each you know,

593
00:30:18.559 --> 00:30:22.480
<v Speaker 2>absolutely yeah, so uh yeah, He's just he's got that

594
00:30:22.559 --> 00:30:24.359
<v Speaker 2>far factor right now, like you do not want to

595
00:30:24.359 --> 00:30:27.799
<v Speaker 2>go and play against Tarik Schooball. He's absolutely unhittable. So yeah,

596
00:30:28.160 --> 00:30:31.400
<v Speaker 2>gimme kersh Kershaw pek Kershaw versus Schooball. That's that's a

597
00:30:31.440 --> 00:30:31.920
<v Speaker 2>pretty game.

598
00:30:33.240 --> 00:30:36.640
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to tell your mine the second. But when

599
00:30:36.720 --> 00:30:40.079
<v Speaker 3>you put this in our running order this evening, sorry,

600
00:30:40.079 --> 00:30:41.559
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to talk a little bit of Red Sox,

601
00:30:41.640 --> 00:30:43.720
<v Speaker 3>but I am going to talk about Tarik School because

602
00:30:43.720 --> 00:30:47.279
<v Speaker 3>I think the comparison between him and Crochet is super

603
00:30:47.359 --> 00:30:51.559
<v Speaker 3>interesting because they are the two best left handed pictures

604
00:30:51.799 --> 00:30:55.200
<v Speaker 3>in the sport right now, but they're so so different.

605
00:30:55.680 --> 00:30:58.480
<v Speaker 3>They're both like power pitchers. They've both got amazing stuff,

606
00:30:58.799 --> 00:31:02.480
<v Speaker 3>but Crochet just it's just all like massive effort. He's

607
00:31:02.519 --> 00:31:05.559
<v Speaker 3>got the massive leg kick and it's all like like

608
00:31:05.920 --> 00:31:08.119
<v Speaker 3>guts and he's sort of yelling and he's and a

609
00:31:08.160 --> 00:31:11.759
<v Speaker 3>boy of schoobl is just absolutely just like I am

610
00:31:11.920 --> 00:31:14.359
<v Speaker 3>the best like de Grom was in his pomp. Like,

611
00:31:14.480 --> 00:31:18.319
<v Speaker 3>that's that's an almost perfect comparison. And I love that

612
00:31:18.839 --> 00:31:21.359
<v Speaker 3>you can have these two guys who are getting the

613
00:31:21.440 --> 00:31:24.240
<v Speaker 3>same results and in some respects like not dissimilar in

614
00:31:24.359 --> 00:31:27.119
<v Speaker 3>terms of their arsenal, but they're just going about it

615
00:31:27.240 --> 00:31:30.480
<v Speaker 3>in completely different ways. So the person that I the

616
00:31:30.559 --> 00:31:33.400
<v Speaker 3>person that like, I thought the Grom and I thought Kershel,

617
00:31:33.480 --> 00:31:35.599
<v Speaker 3>and then I was like, I tried to go a

618
00:31:35.680 --> 00:31:39.400
<v Speaker 3>little bit beyond the obvious, and I that's what's why

619
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<v Speaker 3>the Crochet comparison is important because the place it brought

620
00:31:43.079 --> 00:31:48.839
<v Speaker 3>me to that sort of quiet, absolute dominance, and everyone

621
00:31:49.039 --> 00:31:52.519
<v Speaker 3>sort of slightly overlooked it until it was just impossible

622
00:31:52.599 --> 00:31:56.000
<v Speaker 3>to ignore that this guy is the best. Corey Klueber

623
00:31:56.319 --> 00:31:58.599
<v Speaker 3>when he was on Cleveland and he won the two

624
00:31:59.039 --> 00:32:02.400
<v Speaker 3>Youngs and he just was like, no one could really

625
00:32:02.559 --> 00:32:05.799
<v Speaker 3>understand how, how and where did this guy come from.

626
00:32:06.039 --> 00:32:09.720
<v Speaker 3>He was a late round selection, He wasn't good when

627
00:32:09.759 --> 00:32:12.480
<v Speaker 3>he first started. He was sort of pitching on mid flours,

628
00:32:12.720 --> 00:32:15.440
<v Speaker 3>and then all of a sudden something clicked and he's just,

629
00:32:15.559 --> 00:32:18.240
<v Speaker 3>by miles the best picture in the league. So that

630
00:32:18.400 --> 00:32:19.839
<v Speaker 3>was the one that I mean I think your two

631
00:32:19.880 --> 00:32:22.000
<v Speaker 3>comparisons are spot on too, But I was I was

632
00:32:22.039 --> 00:32:24.599
<v Speaker 3>trying to dig a little bit deeper. Hopefully he doesn't

633
00:32:24.640 --> 00:32:27.640
<v Speaker 3>have the same trajectory of court as Corey Kluber and

634
00:32:27.799 --> 00:32:30.519
<v Speaker 3>end up looking weird and being totally pony on the

635
00:32:30.640 --> 00:32:34.759
<v Speaker 3>Yankees in about six years time. But you know, he

636
00:32:34.880 --> 00:32:37.200
<v Speaker 3>got two so young, so who's laughing?

637
00:32:38.680 --> 00:32:42.960
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, you'd worry, is is he flying too close to

638
00:32:42.960 --> 00:32:45.960
<v Speaker 2>the sun? He throws so damn hard, you know, it's

639
00:32:46.119 --> 00:32:48.960
<v Speaker 2>it's we're just almost sort of waiting for that elbow to.

640
00:32:49.000 --> 00:32:52.880
<v Speaker 3>Go and already he's already had TJ once, hasn't he

641
00:32:53.759 --> 00:32:56.000
<v Speaker 3>That's second time is the killer? Yeah, he had it

642
00:32:56.079 --> 00:32:58.680
<v Speaker 3>when he was in when he was playing for Eerie.

643
00:32:58.799 --> 00:33:00.680
<v Speaker 3>I think who I think we might talk about a

644
00:33:00.720 --> 00:33:02.839
<v Speaker 3>little bit, like might touch on them in the conversation.

645
00:33:03.160 --> 00:33:05.160
<v Speaker 3>I think he had TJ when he was at Eerie.

646
00:33:05.440 --> 00:33:08.559
<v Speaker 3>And obviously crowchews up as well. It's just ridiculously good.

647
00:33:09.359 --> 00:33:11.440
<v Speaker 3>It's just so much fun to watch. There's so many

648
00:33:11.480 --> 00:33:14.759
<v Speaker 3>pictures at the moment where it really is appointment to you,

649
00:33:15.400 --> 00:33:17.440
<v Speaker 3>like Ranger Suarez.

650
00:33:17.119 --> 00:33:19.119
<v Speaker 2>Like what how did that happen?

651
00:33:21.240 --> 00:33:24.720
<v Speaker 3>Like when did he get all like amazing fun to

652
00:33:24.920 --> 00:33:27.160
<v Speaker 3>watch and why are all of these amazing fun to

653
00:33:27.240 --> 00:33:28.920
<v Speaker 3>watch pictures on the Phillies.

654
00:33:29.319 --> 00:33:32.799
<v Speaker 1>Right, No, there is an element of, yeah, Google, feeling

655
00:33:32.839 --> 00:33:34.519
<v Speaker 1>like he's in such control. I don't know if you

656
00:33:34.599 --> 00:33:36.960
<v Speaker 1>saw was highlighted from something in a baseball that he'd

657
00:33:37.000 --> 00:33:40.759
<v Speaker 1>thrown something like one hundred and eighteen consecutive fastballs to

658
00:33:40.839 --> 00:33:42.759
<v Speaker 1>start a start, So the very first pitch of the game,

659
00:33:42.799 --> 00:33:44.279
<v Speaker 1>and it was a fastball like one hundred and eighteen

660
00:33:44.279 --> 00:33:46.519
<v Speaker 1>consecutive times, and they called this out on the stack

661
00:33:46.559 --> 00:33:49.839
<v Speaker 1>cast broadcast about how he always shows a fastball and

662
00:33:49.960 --> 00:33:53.559
<v Speaker 1>about how what's his name on the Twins you just

663
00:33:53.599 --> 00:33:57.279
<v Speaker 1>mentioned rob Byron Buxton? Byron Buxton, thank you? Always swings

664
00:33:57.279 --> 00:33:58.559
<v Speaker 1>at the first pitch, and it was kind of like

665
00:33:58.640 --> 00:34:01.480
<v Speaker 1>a unsupperable force me to moveable object, what's going to happen?

666
00:34:01.599 --> 00:34:03.119
<v Speaker 1>And actually he threw a change up and it was

667
00:34:03.160 --> 00:34:05.559
<v Speaker 1>like really cool, this kind of idea of like he

668
00:34:05.680 --> 00:34:07.720
<v Speaker 1>knew that bucks and maybe swinging. He threw a change

669
00:34:07.759 --> 00:34:09.559
<v Speaker 1>up which acually missed the same by masters rubbish pitch.

670
00:34:09.599 --> 00:34:11.559
<v Speaker 1>But it's just cool that that like kind of stuff's

671
00:34:11.559 --> 00:34:13.320
<v Speaker 1>going through his head. And there was a moment later

672
00:34:13.400 --> 00:34:14.840
<v Speaker 1>in the game where he and Bucks and smiled at

673
00:34:14.880 --> 00:34:17.039
<v Speaker 1>each other after a flyout. He's just having so much

674
00:34:17.079 --> 00:34:19.920
<v Speaker 1>fun and he's so dominant that it. Yeah, it's just

675
00:34:20.000 --> 00:34:21.519
<v Speaker 1>really really cool to watch right now. But yeah, I

676
00:34:21.559 --> 00:34:24.440
<v Speaker 1>guess give it six weeks and Jacob Micharowski will replace

677
00:34:24.519 --> 00:34:26.119
<v Speaker 1>him as the best picture in baseball anyway.

678
00:34:25.960 --> 00:34:28.800
<v Speaker 3>So no talk about it. He's great fun as well,

679
00:34:28.880 --> 00:34:29.159
<v Speaker 3>isn't it.

680
00:34:29.199 --> 00:34:29.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

681
00:34:29.400 --> 00:34:31.559
<v Speaker 3>The books, the thing was so cool, like where he

682
00:34:32.320 --> 00:34:33.840
<v Speaker 3>threw him the change up and he just sort of

683
00:34:33.880 --> 00:34:38.119
<v Speaker 3>turned around and he went, yeah, yeah, you looked at

684
00:34:38.159 --> 00:34:40.440
<v Speaker 3>the scarting report, par I loved.

685
00:34:40.239 --> 00:34:46.400
<v Speaker 1>That game, recognized game and very quickly. I guess. Detroit Tigers,

686
00:34:47.400 --> 00:34:49.719
<v Speaker 1>I'll be the first to say I didn't see this coming.

687
00:34:50.239 --> 00:34:51.960
<v Speaker 1>I thought they might be good. I thought they might

688
00:34:52.000 --> 00:34:53.800
<v Speaker 1>build off the extit finish the last season, but I

689
00:34:53.880 --> 00:34:56.159
<v Speaker 1>did not think they were going to be best recorded

690
00:34:56.159 --> 00:34:59.519
<v Speaker 1>in Major League Baseball with the underlying stats to back

691
00:34:59.559 --> 00:35:03.000
<v Speaker 1>it up. Good. Do you guys think they're genuine World

692
00:35:03.000 --> 00:35:05.199
<v Speaker 1>Series contendents? Are playing like one right now? Right? Should

693
00:35:05.199 --> 00:35:06.559
<v Speaker 1>we be looking at them as a team to beat

694
00:35:06.559 --> 00:35:08.079
<v Speaker 1>in the American League? What do you think, John?

695
00:35:08.880 --> 00:35:11.679
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean it's it's it's them and

696
00:35:11.760 --> 00:35:14.159
<v Speaker 3>the Yankees, and the Yankees have got more holes from

697
00:35:14.199 --> 00:35:18.719
<v Speaker 3>me at the moment. I mean, I think that rotation

698
00:35:19.159 --> 00:35:22.719
<v Speaker 3>is a little bit flaky for although I think, you know,

699
00:35:22.880 --> 00:35:25.400
<v Speaker 3>I like Jack Flaherty, you know, and if you got

700
00:35:25.440 --> 00:35:27.280
<v Speaker 3>those two at the top of your rotation in a

701
00:35:28.480 --> 00:35:31.559
<v Speaker 3>in a playoff, then you're probably in Godstead. They probably

702
00:35:31.679 --> 00:35:34.320
<v Speaker 3>they're probably going to be one of the primary buyers

703
00:35:34.360 --> 00:35:36.639
<v Speaker 3>around the trading deadline right because they probably want Bill

704
00:35:36.719 --> 00:35:39.440
<v Speaker 3>Ben help, They probably want another bat, and I would

705
00:35:39.440 --> 00:35:42.199
<v Speaker 3>say they probably want some starting pitching. But I think

706
00:35:42.280 --> 00:35:44.280
<v Speaker 3>that it's just a credit to a J. Hinch and

707
00:35:44.280 --> 00:35:47.679
<v Speaker 3>they're coaching stuff that they've they've managed to like take

708
00:35:47.760 --> 00:35:49.719
<v Speaker 3>players who you thought were going to you're going to

709
00:35:49.760 --> 00:35:52.559
<v Speaker 3>get some okay. I mean these players who were like

710
00:35:52.760 --> 00:35:56.880
<v Speaker 3>decent prospects, like Kerry Carpenter, who they've been absolutely brilliant

711
00:35:56.920 --> 00:35:59.920
<v Speaker 3>and like for a sustained period. Then they've got gliber

712
00:36:00.039 --> 00:36:03.199
<v Speaker 3>Torres He's come in who was okay on the Yankees,

713
00:36:03.239 --> 00:36:05.280
<v Speaker 3>and he's been really good. Have he buyers? I mean,

714
00:36:05.480 --> 00:36:09.119
<v Speaker 3>to Rob's point, definitely should not be starting over Byron

715
00:36:09.159 --> 00:36:12.400
<v Speaker 3>Books in the Star Game, but has been like legitimate

716
00:36:12.639 --> 00:36:16.159
<v Speaker 3>sensation like how it just shows what a talented player

717
00:36:16.239 --> 00:36:18.119
<v Speaker 3>he is, that he's been that good in center field

718
00:36:18.159 --> 00:36:21.280
<v Speaker 3>and also just doesn't look completely lost at the play anymore,

719
00:36:21.320 --> 00:36:24.039
<v Speaker 3>like he's still not great, but like he's serviceable. So yeah,

720
00:36:24.280 --> 00:36:26.599
<v Speaker 3>I do, I think, and I think again it shows

721
00:36:26.639 --> 00:36:30.800
<v Speaker 3>that coaching and clubhouse spirit can carry the right set

722
00:36:30.880 --> 00:36:32.400
<v Speaker 3>of players an awful long life.

723
00:36:32.599 --> 00:36:35.440
<v Speaker 1>To disagree with that. Yeah, I'm excited to see them.

724
00:36:35.480 --> 00:36:37.199
<v Speaker 1>I thought we do a quick bit now on on

725
00:36:37.320 --> 00:36:39.639
<v Speaker 1>the deadline. I think maybe we'll do a live show again.

726
00:36:39.639 --> 00:36:40.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to tease things that we're not gonna

727
00:36:40.880 --> 00:36:41.920
<v Speaker 1>be able to do, but I think we'll probably do

728
00:36:42.079 --> 00:36:44.920
<v Speaker 1>some content around the trade deadline when it comes around,

729
00:36:44.960 --> 00:36:49.639
<v Speaker 1>feeling fun rather than going to can get you what?

730
00:36:49.800 --> 00:36:51.480
<v Speaker 2>I'll get my dicky bow out.

731
00:36:51.519 --> 00:36:56.360
<v Speaker 1>Yes, the listeners for that one. So we won't go

732
00:36:56.440 --> 00:36:59.079
<v Speaker 1>too deep into trade deadline discussion right now. I thought

733
00:36:59.079 --> 00:37:01.119
<v Speaker 1>it'd be fun to very quick do a run through

734
00:37:01.159 --> 00:37:03.320
<v Speaker 1>of some teams and do we think they're buyers or

735
00:37:03.360 --> 00:37:05.079
<v Speaker 1>do we think they're sellers? Because we're getting to the

736
00:37:05.119 --> 00:37:07.599
<v Speaker 1>point now where it's like pick al aint guys. You know,

737
00:37:07.639 --> 00:37:09.400
<v Speaker 1>if you're around five hundred, what are you going to be.

738
00:37:09.599 --> 00:37:11.239
<v Speaker 1>Do you think your team's good enough to go on

739
00:37:11.320 --> 00:37:14.039
<v Speaker 1>a run or are you happy to sit on your hands?

740
00:37:14.239 --> 00:37:16.679
<v Speaker 1>Trade away a for you guys and rebuild for next year.

741
00:37:16.800 --> 00:37:19.199
<v Speaker 1>So I've listed out a bunch here. I'm just going

742
00:37:19.239 --> 00:37:20.599
<v Speaker 1>to go through them very quickly, and you guys tell me.

743
00:37:20.960 --> 00:37:23.719
<v Speaker 1>Let's start with the Red Sox buyers or sellers.

744
00:37:23.800 --> 00:37:26.559
<v Speaker 3>John, I hope that they're going to sell, but I'm

745
00:37:26.960 --> 00:37:30.320
<v Speaker 3>quite worried that Craig Breslow keeps saying that they're going

746
00:37:30.360 --> 00:37:33.960
<v Speaker 3>to buy and is a human robot. I think there

747
00:37:34.079 --> 00:37:35.960
<v Speaker 3>is the way that they're playing at the moment that

748
00:37:36.079 --> 00:37:40.920
<v Speaker 3>they stink, and they've got some good players and they

749
00:37:40.920 --> 00:37:43.519
<v Speaker 3>should be better than this. But if you know, our

750
00:37:43.559 --> 00:37:46.320
<v Speaker 3>oldest Chapman and Lucas Giolito are still on that squad

751
00:37:46.360 --> 00:37:49.480
<v Speaker 3>after the trading deadline, I think it's because they've both

752
00:37:49.519 --> 00:37:52.039
<v Speaker 3>been really good, right and they should be getting a

753
00:37:52.119 --> 00:37:55.840
<v Speaker 3>good return for them. I think it's a massive mistake.

754
00:37:56.239 --> 00:37:59.639
<v Speaker 3>I really hope they're sellers, but I'd say it's probably

755
00:38:00.000 --> 00:38:02.760
<v Speaker 3>still fifty to fifty right now because I think they've

756
00:38:03.079 --> 00:38:05.079
<v Speaker 3>worked themselves into a shoot over Devas.

757
00:38:06.559 --> 00:38:09.719
<v Speaker 2>Yep, so I agree. So the rest of the ale

758
00:38:09.840 --> 00:38:12.199
<v Speaker 2>least is really kicked on. I mean even the oils

759
00:38:12.239 --> 00:38:15.079
<v Speaker 2>are picked up now. I think the Blue Jays and

760
00:38:15.119 --> 00:38:17.719
<v Speaker 2>the Rays are in an absolute bumfight for that that

761
00:38:17.960 --> 00:38:20.880
<v Speaker 2>were first wild card spot. The Yankees probably gona win

762
00:38:20.920 --> 00:38:22.920
<v Speaker 2>the division. I don't think it's I mean, yes, it's

763
00:38:22.920 --> 00:38:25.519
<v Speaker 2>winnable of course, is running halfway through, but I don't

764
00:38:25.559 --> 00:38:27.480
<v Speaker 2>think it is as winnable for the for the Red

765
00:38:27.519 --> 00:38:29.320
<v Speaker 2>Sox in their position. I think what they should do

766
00:38:29.599 --> 00:38:31.760
<v Speaker 2>is they should clear a bit of the dead wood

767
00:38:32.719 --> 00:38:35.320
<v Speaker 2>and line up what they're going to do with with

768
00:38:35.559 --> 00:38:37.760
<v Speaker 2>first base cycle some guys through, try some stuff out,

769
00:38:37.880 --> 00:38:43.000
<v Speaker 2>find find something, get those bits done because right now,

770
00:38:43.360 --> 00:38:45.800
<v Speaker 2>you know with Bregman out, with cass Us out, you know,

771
00:38:45.960 --> 00:38:50.039
<v Speaker 2>with you know, cut A Crawford's accidental wanking injury, all

772
00:38:50.119 --> 00:38:53.480
<v Speaker 2>these things that you know there these are not helping

773
00:38:53.519 --> 00:38:55.519
<v Speaker 2>the team right now, and you know they're fairly long

774
00:38:55.599 --> 00:38:56.079
<v Speaker 2>term stuff.

775
00:38:56.159 --> 00:38:58.079
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, I think the other thing is that they've

776
00:38:58.119 --> 00:39:01.440
<v Speaker 3>probably got like the most play who you could get

777
00:39:01.440 --> 00:39:03.360
<v Speaker 3>a good return looking at those teams who are kind

778
00:39:03.400 --> 00:39:06.719
<v Speaker 3>of like just about below the water. This is the

779
00:39:06.800 --> 00:39:09.639
<v Speaker 3>thing about the wild card is it makes it difficult, right,

780
00:39:09.760 --> 00:39:11.679
<v Speaker 3>It makes it difficult for a team to commit one

781
00:39:11.679 --> 00:39:13.519
<v Speaker 3>way or another because they are close enough that you

782
00:39:13.559 --> 00:39:16.239
<v Speaker 3>could eyeball it and go maybe. But they've also if

783
00:39:16.280 --> 00:39:19.639
<v Speaker 3>they look at it reasonably, like Cha Chapman has been

784
00:39:19.719 --> 00:39:23.639
<v Speaker 3>absolutely brilliant, Justin Wilson has been brilliant, Giolito has been brilliant.

785
00:39:23.760 --> 00:39:25.679
<v Speaker 3>Someone could take Bregman if they think he's going to

786
00:39:25.719 --> 00:39:27.800
<v Speaker 3>opt out, I think they want to try and resign him.

787
00:39:27.800 --> 00:39:29.320
<v Speaker 3>But if it looks like he doesn't want to resign

788
00:39:29.360 --> 00:39:31.039
<v Speaker 3>and he's going to opt out, like, look, you're gonna

789
00:39:31.079 --> 00:39:33.719
<v Speaker 3>get absolutely You're not going to get Roman Anthony and

790
00:39:33.800 --> 00:39:36.440
<v Speaker 3>Marcelo Mayer back, but you're going to fill fill a

791
00:39:36.519 --> 00:39:39.159
<v Speaker 3>lot of the gaps that they're leaving. So it's a

792
00:39:39.239 --> 00:39:41.360
<v Speaker 3>no brainer for that. That one for me. But then again,

793
00:39:41.400 --> 00:39:43.639
<v Speaker 3>I just don't know how Craig presise Bright works.

794
00:39:45.440 --> 00:39:45.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't sell.

795
00:39:46.039 --> 00:39:48.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they've got the perfect Yeah, sorry, give those.

796
00:39:48.280 --> 00:39:50.920
<v Speaker 1>Young guys some playing time, you know, tear out because

797
00:39:50.920 --> 00:39:53.159
<v Speaker 1>they've got like, they've got so many players on their roster.

798
00:39:53.239 --> 00:39:55.400
<v Speaker 1>It's hards fan playing time for without the injuries. So

799
00:39:55.440 --> 00:39:57.679
<v Speaker 1>I think just give those guy young guys playing time,

800
00:39:57.719 --> 00:39:59.159
<v Speaker 1>let them figure it out with the majors. Try again,

801
00:39:59.239 --> 00:39:59.760
<v Speaker 1>next year.

802
00:40:00.039 --> 00:40:02.119
<v Speaker 3>They get some reps of Massa is on his way back,

803
00:40:02.719 --> 00:40:06.320
<v Speaker 3>that that mass master, Rob Refsnider platoon at d H.

804
00:40:07.400 --> 00:40:09.039
<v Speaker 1>Are you still playing Shivers down?

805
00:40:09.079 --> 00:40:09.559
<v Speaker 3>That's fine?

806
00:40:11.119 --> 00:40:12.960
<v Speaker 1>Right next up Orioles. It's got to be a cell

807
00:40:13.079 --> 00:40:16.119
<v Speaker 1>right surely, who are they selling?

808
00:40:17.840 --> 00:40:19.719
<v Speaker 2>Well? They've got those youngins, isn't it. They could sell

809
00:40:19.719 --> 00:40:21.360
<v Speaker 2>a couple of young'us if they really wanted to. Or

810
00:40:21.360 --> 00:40:23.239
<v Speaker 2>they probably still got some prospect hiding away that we

811
00:40:23.320 --> 00:40:26.519
<v Speaker 2>know nothing about. But I'm I'm I'm not selling if

812
00:40:26.519 --> 00:40:29.159
<v Speaker 2>I'm the Oriols. I'm just sitting on it. Like everything

813
00:40:29.559 --> 00:40:31.480
<v Speaker 2>everything about the Orioles should have worked this year other

814
00:40:31.559 --> 00:40:36.280
<v Speaker 2>than the pitching, sit on it. Upgrade the pitching staff

815
00:40:36.880 --> 00:40:40.079
<v Speaker 2>in the in the off season. Hopefully it will just

816
00:40:40.280 --> 00:40:42.039
<v Speaker 2>fall a little bit better for them. I don't know

817
00:40:42.119 --> 00:40:43.679
<v Speaker 2>what the hell went on at the beginning of the season,

818
00:40:43.840 --> 00:40:46.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, was it Brandon Hyde, was it not? I

819
00:40:46.519 --> 00:40:48.360
<v Speaker 2>don't know, But just sit on what they've got.

820
00:40:48.400 --> 00:40:48.960
<v Speaker 3>It's all there.

821
00:40:49.119 --> 00:40:51.199
<v Speaker 2>They just need to add a couple of bits of pitching.

822
00:40:51.239 --> 00:40:54.039
<v Speaker 2>They don't need brilliant pitching. They need some okay pitching.

823
00:40:54.320 --> 00:40:55.840
<v Speaker 2>That's all they need. So just pick some of that

824
00:40:55.960 --> 00:40:58.119
<v Speaker 2>up in the off season, but but just sit on

825
00:40:58.199 --> 00:41:00.440
<v Speaker 2>what you got, don't touch it, most of it is

826
00:41:00.440 --> 00:41:02.280
<v Speaker 2>what you need already, and then go into next year.

827
00:41:03.280 --> 00:41:05.159
<v Speaker 3>I think I would sell, but it's kind of a

828
00:41:05.239 --> 00:41:09.280
<v Speaker 3>bit like like what are you getting for Zach Eflin?

829
00:41:09.639 --> 00:41:11.000
<v Speaker 2>What what are you getting for.

830
00:41:11.800 --> 00:41:16.800
<v Speaker 3>The burnt husk of Charlie Morton or you know, better

831
00:41:16.880 --> 00:41:21.159
<v Speaker 3>recently this year's Felix Baltista, who is nowhere near as

832
00:41:21.199 --> 00:41:24.880
<v Speaker 3>good as the pre Felix Bltister. You know, I mean,

833
00:41:24.920 --> 00:41:27.320
<v Speaker 3>they probably will sell I think right, and they'll probably

834
00:41:27.400 --> 00:41:32.679
<v Speaker 3>get you know, some al right talent back for them,

835
00:41:32.920 --> 00:41:35.360
<v Speaker 3>but they're not going to sell Richmond. They're not gonna

836
00:41:35.360 --> 00:41:37.480
<v Speaker 3>sell Westburg. They're not gonna sell cows there are they.

837
00:41:37.559 --> 00:41:38.920
<v Speaker 3>I Mean, like, what's the point.

838
00:41:39.639 --> 00:41:41.519
<v Speaker 1>They're a bit stuck, aren't they, because they don't have

839
00:41:41.679 --> 00:41:45.559
<v Speaker 1>much they can sell. The young guys, if anything, have

840
00:41:45.599 --> 00:41:47.239
<v Speaker 1>stepped backwards this year, and it's like you're not going

841
00:41:47.280 --> 00:41:49.320
<v Speaker 1>to give them away now, You're can have to stick

842
00:41:49.400 --> 00:41:51.440
<v Speaker 1>with them, But like, do you just run it back

843
00:41:51.480 --> 00:41:52.920
<v Speaker 1>next year with the same team again and hope for

844
00:41:52.960 --> 00:41:53.599
<v Speaker 1>different results?

845
00:41:53.719 --> 00:41:56.159
<v Speaker 3>Like I think what you do next year is actually.

846
00:41:57.239 --> 00:41:59.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, which is why you don't sell Efflin now like

847
00:42:00.119 --> 00:42:01.440
<v Speaker 2>at least a possible.

848
00:42:01.119 --> 00:42:06.199
<v Speaker 1>Number Fourriguez is back. It'll be fine, Yeah, just.

849
00:42:09.199 --> 00:42:09.719
<v Speaker 3>Get on with it.

850
00:42:12.239 --> 00:42:15.119
<v Speaker 1>Twins guys are well. I'm not going to profess to

851
00:42:15.119 --> 00:42:17.000
<v Speaker 1>have watched much Twins baseball this year, but they seem

852
00:42:17.039 --> 00:42:19.960
<v Speaker 1>to have been pretty disappointing, even though all their offt

853
00:42:20.039 --> 00:42:23.800
<v Speaker 1>injured players have mostly been healthy. Are we sticking? Are

854
00:42:23.840 --> 00:42:25.280
<v Speaker 1>we selling? Are we buying? What are we doing?

855
00:42:26.559 --> 00:42:30.800
<v Speaker 3>I don't care. I don't care, sorry, Twins fans. I

856
00:42:31.039 --> 00:42:33.400
<v Speaker 3>I only have one rooting interest in the Twin Cities,

857
00:42:33.440 --> 00:42:36.800
<v Speaker 3>and it is for Byron Buxton. I just think, you know,

858
00:42:38.519 --> 00:42:40.239
<v Speaker 3>that's the only thing I really care about on the

859
00:42:40.280 --> 00:42:43.639
<v Speaker 3>Minnesota Twins, because he's a and I don't really want him.

860
00:42:43.760 --> 00:42:44.280
<v Speaker 1>Is you know?

861
00:42:44.599 --> 00:42:47.079
<v Speaker 3>You? You guys had that brilliant conversation whilst I was

862
00:42:47.079 --> 00:42:50.199
<v Speaker 3>away about players who just look weird in another jersey.

863
00:42:50.320 --> 00:42:52.280
<v Speaker 3>As soon as he's in any other I'm going to

864
00:42:52.320 --> 00:42:56.039
<v Speaker 3>be like, nope, that's just memory. Hold no, thank you.

865
00:42:57.679 --> 00:42:58.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

866
00:42:58.400 --> 00:43:00.599
<v Speaker 3>I've got no strong feeling, got no strong views, and

867
00:43:00.639 --> 00:43:02.280
<v Speaker 3>they get but again, who are who are they selling?

868
00:43:03.199 --> 00:43:13.360
<v Speaker 3>Not just specifically underneath a combine harvester.

869
00:43:14.159 --> 00:43:16.280
<v Speaker 2>They've got a few guys you know, it's fine. I

870
00:43:16.360 --> 00:43:17.960
<v Speaker 2>think the main thing about the Twins for me is

871
00:43:18.039 --> 00:43:20.719
<v Speaker 2>that they are they are being sold or are trying

872
00:43:20.760 --> 00:43:22.840
<v Speaker 2>to be sold. They're not going to spend anything whilst

873
00:43:22.840 --> 00:43:24.280
<v Speaker 2>they're trying to be sold. So you know, if you're

874
00:43:24.280 --> 00:43:26.280
<v Speaker 2>going to do your clearing, your decks, get stuck up

875
00:43:26.320 --> 00:43:28.400
<v Speaker 2>your pharm system, do it now, because you're not going

876
00:43:28.480 --> 00:43:30.639
<v Speaker 2>to spend anything at this point. So yeah, sell it,

877
00:43:30.760 --> 00:43:31.679
<v Speaker 2>sell it all, burn it down.

878
00:43:31.920 --> 00:43:35.559
<v Speaker 1>It is Texas Rangers, another team that's been disappointing. Are

879
00:43:35.599 --> 00:43:39.400
<v Speaker 1>we buying? Are we selling? They've got an aging roster.

880
00:43:39.920 --> 00:43:41.679
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what they're not selling and are they

881
00:43:42.119 --> 00:43:43.039
<v Speaker 2>not with that contract?

882
00:43:43.960 --> 00:43:46.159
<v Speaker 1>They've got some trouble on their hands in future years.

883
00:43:46.239 --> 00:43:48.039
<v Speaker 1>But are we trying to recoup what we can or

884
00:43:48.079 --> 00:43:50.400
<v Speaker 1>are we doubling down and hoping to got de Grom

885
00:43:50.440 --> 00:43:51.440
<v Speaker 1>carries us to a World Cup.

886
00:43:51.679 --> 00:43:54.840
<v Speaker 3>I just don't think that that that franchise knows any

887
00:43:54.880 --> 00:43:58.800
<v Speaker 3>other way. They are definitely buy it. It's just yeha.

888
00:43:59.039 --> 00:44:04.159
<v Speaker 3>Everything's bigger into Exus, including Chris Young that they are

889
00:44:04.280 --> 00:44:05.000
<v Speaker 3>definitely buying.

890
00:44:06.559 --> 00:44:09.079
<v Speaker 2>One lucky year does not a team make, you know?

891
00:44:10.519 --> 00:44:12.360
<v Speaker 2>I think they sit on it. This is probably about

892
00:44:12.360 --> 00:44:15.239
<v Speaker 2>where they should be. You know, they've got to be

893
00:44:15.320 --> 00:44:17.599
<v Speaker 2>spending a stupid amount of money already on on their

894
00:44:17.639 --> 00:44:20.639
<v Speaker 2>middle infield, which isn't isn't quite up to scratch this year.

895
00:44:21.719 --> 00:44:24.400
<v Speaker 2>So I don't think they're adding more to that payroll

896
00:44:24.519 --> 00:44:26.519
<v Speaker 2>for for what I mean, like, what are you gonna do?

897
00:44:26.559 --> 00:44:27.880
<v Speaker 2>Are you gonna go out and get yourself a new

898
00:44:27.920 --> 00:44:30.159
<v Speaker 2>second basement and replace Sime? And of course you're not,

899
00:44:30.519 --> 00:44:32.320
<v Speaker 2>so you know where, where and what?

900
00:44:32.679 --> 00:44:35.679
<v Speaker 3>And so I think you just need to rewatch that

901
00:44:35.800 --> 00:44:39.079
<v Speaker 3>clip of adults Garcia hulking up and think again, mate,

902
00:44:40.960 --> 00:44:43.159
<v Speaker 3>just get that man some reinforcements. It's all going to

903
00:44:43.159 --> 00:44:43.559
<v Speaker 3>be fine.

904
00:44:45.800 --> 00:44:51.079
<v Speaker 2>More Garciers, bigger Garcias. They're no such thing a team fully,

905
00:44:51.280 --> 00:44:53.840
<v Speaker 2>just bulky chaps called Garcia. There's gotta be enough of

906
00:44:53.840 --> 00:44:55.519
<v Speaker 2>the morale, passive guys, hot dog in.

907
00:44:58.360 --> 00:45:01.800
<v Speaker 3>Just gonna go down Muscle Beach. There is Terry Belayer, he'll.

908
00:45:01.639 --> 00:45:06.920
<v Speaker 1>Do Ben's like, who's that absolutely over my head?

909
00:45:07.920 --> 00:45:09.960
<v Speaker 3>That's whole Cogan Ben. That's his real name?

910
00:45:10.519 --> 00:45:10.679
<v Speaker 2>Is it?

911
00:45:12.199 --> 00:45:13.199
<v Speaker 3>It was Christan?

912
00:45:13.280 --> 00:45:16.679
<v Speaker 1>I didn't have them on my list, baby, But we

913
00:45:16.719 --> 00:45:18.880
<v Speaker 1>should probably talk about the Seattle Mariners because Jerry's not

914
00:45:18.880 --> 00:45:20.320
<v Speaker 1>going to sit on his hands. Is he he's going

915
00:45:20.360 --> 00:45:22.480
<v Speaker 1>to be buying or selling or both every day between

916
00:45:22.519 --> 00:45:23.360
<v Speaker 1>now and the trade deadline?

917
00:45:23.400 --> 00:45:26.800
<v Speaker 3>Surely? I mean, god, God knows. I mean, look, what

918
00:45:27.000 --> 00:45:28.880
<v Speaker 3>is going to happen with the Mariners is they're going

919
00:45:28.960 --> 00:45:31.880
<v Speaker 3>to need four bats and they're just going to go

920
00:45:32.159 --> 00:45:34.400
<v Speaker 3>real well, we're not training any pictures.

921
00:45:35.679 --> 00:45:36.840
<v Speaker 2>They can't. They're all broken.

922
00:45:37.079 --> 00:45:41.079
<v Speaker 3>I think Jerry's had a personality transplant, quite genuinely, Like

923
00:45:41.199 --> 00:45:43.559
<v Speaker 3>he's gone from this nickel and diming. What would Jerry

924
00:45:43.599 --> 00:45:49.159
<v Speaker 3>Deploto do do in the trades? Me to like sclerosis,

925
00:45:50.000 --> 00:45:54.119
<v Speaker 3>just can't do it anymore. It's broken having the opportunity

926
00:45:54.199 --> 00:45:58.000
<v Speaker 3>to trade one very good picture from He's ninety eight

927
00:45:58.280 --> 00:46:01.880
<v Speaker 3>very good pictures for one good hitter not called cal Raley.

928
00:46:02.199 --> 00:46:03.960
<v Speaker 3>Can't do it, mate, Not interesting.

929
00:46:04.000 --> 00:46:09.079
<v Speaker 2>Imagine that team without Carol Rally this year, just Donny Barrels.

930
00:46:10.519 --> 00:46:12.840
<v Speaker 1>They do have one exciting prospects out behind Carrall who

931
00:46:12.880 --> 00:46:15.119
<v Speaker 1>could be a trade trade at Chip if they wanted

932
00:46:15.119 --> 00:46:16.559
<v Speaker 1>to go out and get an impactful bat.

933
00:46:16.679 --> 00:46:22.679
<v Speaker 3>Maybe trading with the Red Sox. Please catching battery with

934
00:46:22.760 --> 00:46:28.639
<v Speaker 3>the captain Carlos Harry Ford, Let's do it. He's amazing

935
00:46:28.679 --> 00:46:31.440
<v Speaker 3>this year hasn't he after he didn't do so well

936
00:46:31.480 --> 00:46:33.800
<v Speaker 3>in Double A, but he's had an absolutely astonishing Yeah.

937
00:46:34.440 --> 00:46:36.280
<v Speaker 2>I want him to keep doing well, but not quite

938
00:46:36.320 --> 00:46:38.280
<v Speaker 2>so well that he can't play for us because he's

939
00:46:38.440 --> 00:46:41.280
<v Speaker 2>he's got Major League. So just hold on a little bit, Harry,

940
00:46:41.360 --> 00:46:43.920
<v Speaker 2>just keep on that level and then and then after

941
00:46:44.000 --> 00:46:45.840
<v Speaker 2>your next go would then then go for it, Then

942
00:46:45.920 --> 00:46:46.239
<v Speaker 2>go for it.

943
00:46:46.360 --> 00:46:48.679
<v Speaker 3>He is locked in. Why do you think Brad Marcelino

944
00:46:48.760 --> 00:46:52.440
<v Speaker 3>got that job. He's the one that found Harry Ford's

945
00:46:52.840 --> 00:46:58.760
<v Speaker 3>that you know, very very qualified and incredibly eminent. Mean,

946
00:46:59.119 --> 00:47:01.599
<v Speaker 3>if you wanted to call in hard and I'm the

947
00:47:01.679 --> 00:47:04.119
<v Speaker 3>man who found the best player in the history of

948
00:47:04.239 --> 00:47:09.679
<v Speaker 3>Great Britain, it's probably quite a good one, very good.

949
00:47:09.760 --> 00:47:10.559
<v Speaker 2>Worst things on your TV?

950
00:47:10.800 --> 00:47:15.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, National League at Lands of Braves, they waving the

951
00:47:15.079 --> 00:47:15.559
<v Speaker 1>white flag.

952
00:47:16.440 --> 00:47:21.440
<v Speaker 2>They should no, absolutely not again it's a it's a

953
00:47:21.559 --> 00:47:25.440
<v Speaker 2>decent team. Buy a new outfield like they do every year,

954
00:47:25.800 --> 00:47:28.239
<v Speaker 2>and then on even numbered years they'll have a good year.

955
00:47:28.760 --> 00:47:31.800
<v Speaker 2>Odd numbered years they won't, So just refresh the outfield,

956
00:47:32.119 --> 00:47:34.199
<v Speaker 2>go again next year. Bye bye, bye bye.

957
00:47:34.800 --> 00:47:37.159
<v Speaker 3>They're not No, they're not as bad as the Red Sox,

958
00:47:37.679 --> 00:47:40.920
<v Speaker 3>but they also are in that similar position where they've

959
00:47:40.960 --> 00:47:44.480
<v Speaker 3>got players that people will want, and people will want

960
00:47:44.599 --> 00:47:48.760
<v Speaker 3>Chris Sale, people will want Sean Murphy. They're not they're not.

961
00:47:48.960 --> 00:47:51.639
<v Speaker 3>Akuna is not going, Ovis is not going, Stride is

962
00:47:51.679 --> 00:47:56.280
<v Speaker 3>not going. But they've got these guys on shorter deals

963
00:47:56.320 --> 00:47:59.599
<v Speaker 3>who would be massively impactful players in a playoff team.

964
00:48:00.559 --> 00:48:03.960
<v Speaker 3>So they are possibly in that same Catch twenty two

965
00:48:03.960 --> 00:48:06.519
<v Speaker 3>as the Red Sox where they feel instinctively like this

966
00:48:06.719 --> 00:48:08.760
<v Speaker 3>is actually a good team, it's just not playing well

967
00:48:09.519 --> 00:48:10.639
<v Speaker 3>and we should be buyers.

968
00:48:10.840 --> 00:48:11.639
<v Speaker 1>But also.

969
00:48:12.880 --> 00:48:14.760
<v Speaker 3>You know, they could set the market if they wanted to.

970
00:48:15.440 --> 00:48:17.920
<v Speaker 3>I would sell, But I also see why Rob would

971
00:48:17.960 --> 00:48:19.400
<v Speaker 3>might be counter argument.

972
00:48:20.440 --> 00:48:22.719
<v Speaker 1>I think I buy. I just I believe in the talent,

973
00:48:22.920 --> 00:48:25.440
<v Speaker 1>and like Rob said, like just try and find lightning

974
00:48:25.480 --> 00:48:26.880
<v Speaker 1>in a bottle in the outfeel like you always do,

975
00:48:27.039 --> 00:48:28.719
<v Speaker 1>and see where it takes you. You might get your

976
00:48:28.719 --> 00:48:32.239
<v Speaker 1>world card spot and then who knows, Cincinnati read this

977
00:48:32.360 --> 00:48:33.320
<v Speaker 1>year it won't buy.

978
00:48:33.360 --> 00:48:35.559
<v Speaker 2>Also, I'm like John on this one with the Twins

979
00:48:35.599 --> 00:48:37.880
<v Speaker 2>and that I really I just don't care. I really

980
00:48:37.920 --> 00:48:40.840
<v Speaker 2>don't care about the Cincinnati Reds at this point. You know,

981
00:48:41.599 --> 00:48:45.159
<v Speaker 2>Ellie's Wow fantastic. I want to see more Ellie, But

982
00:48:45.360 --> 00:48:47.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm very my opic and what I want to see

983
00:48:47.320 --> 00:48:49.920
<v Speaker 2>from the Reds and that is it just yeah, fine

984
00:48:50.039 --> 00:48:50.599
<v Speaker 2>by more.

985
00:48:50.639 --> 00:48:53.159
<v Speaker 3>Dela Cruz and Hunter Green and that's it basically.

986
00:48:53.039 --> 00:48:54.920
<v Speaker 2>Hunter Green fait to be fair, Yes, absolutely I want

987
00:48:54.920 --> 00:48:56.639
<v Speaker 2>more Hunter Green as well. Yeah, that's a very very

988
00:48:56.679 --> 00:48:59.119
<v Speaker 2>good point. But again I find him a scary watch

989
00:48:59.119 --> 00:49:02.199
<v Speaker 2>because I'm half half expecting his arm to come with

990
00:49:02.320 --> 00:49:07.079
<v Speaker 2>the ball each time. So yeah, but in that that

991
00:49:07.239 --> 00:49:09.599
<v Speaker 2>division of moment, a slight upgrade sees them in it.

992
00:49:09.639 --> 00:49:11.559
<v Speaker 2>You know, they're not that far out. Yeah, if if

993
00:49:11.599 --> 00:49:15.760
<v Speaker 2>they put a little bit somewhere but where Yeah, maybe

994
00:49:15.840 --> 00:49:19.440
<v Speaker 2>some outfielders. Again, yeah they should, they should buy. But

995
00:49:19.559 --> 00:49:21.840
<v Speaker 2>like but like don't, don't put the house on it,

996
00:49:21.920 --> 00:49:24.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, just just just tinker, but tinker upward.

997
00:49:25.679 --> 00:49:27.480
<v Speaker 1>He's not getting rocked by the Red Sox.

998
00:49:28.119 --> 00:49:32.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's true. I think specifically by Will robre that

999
00:49:32.320 --> 00:49:35.920
<v Speaker 3>was amazing. I think they should probably buy. Like, when

1000
00:49:36.039 --> 00:49:38.280
<v Speaker 3>was the last time that the Reds leading into a

1001
00:49:38.360 --> 00:49:42.800
<v Speaker 3>trading deadline had a record above five hundred. I think

1002
00:49:43.000 --> 00:49:47.400
<v Speaker 3>Johnny Cueto and Scooter Gannett were still on the team, So.

1003
00:49:48.760 --> 00:49:51.480
<v Speaker 2>For get four home runs in the game. Scooter Jeannett, Yeah.

1004
00:49:51.360 --> 00:49:56.000
<v Speaker 3>These windows do not open regularly, so I think they

1005
00:49:56.000 --> 00:49:57.840
<v Speaker 3>should take it. I mean, I know they're quite far

1006
00:49:57.960 --> 00:49:59.639
<v Speaker 3>out of the World Cup position, but you.

1007
00:49:59.679 --> 00:50:03.599
<v Speaker 1>Know, yeah, I think so this is quarantine destined to

1008
00:50:03.800 --> 00:50:06.119
<v Speaker 1>end the season like seventy eight and eighty four, regardless

1009
00:50:06.119 --> 00:50:07.159
<v Speaker 1>of what they do at the deadline.

1010
00:50:07.920 --> 00:50:09.519
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this is true.

1011
00:50:11.280 --> 00:50:14.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean, scuffling Diamondbacks just got swept by the Marlins.

1012
00:50:14.519 --> 00:50:16.920
<v Speaker 3>Diamondbacks. I think they probably stand part.

1013
00:50:17.599 --> 00:50:20.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I agreed fully agree where they are do the.

1014
00:50:20.599 --> 00:50:24.400
<v Speaker 3>Old Heim Bloom deadline. We neither buyers nor sellers. We're

1015
00:50:24.440 --> 00:50:26.320
<v Speaker 3>just going to make a load of confusing moves and

1016
00:50:26.440 --> 00:50:28.280
<v Speaker 3>somehow Eric Hosma's on the team.

1017
00:50:28.159 --> 00:50:33.639
<v Speaker 1>Now, isn't Zach Gallon and the coming free agent? Can

1018
00:50:33.679 --> 00:50:34.440
<v Speaker 1>you get anything for him?

1019
00:50:34.639 --> 00:50:36.960
<v Speaker 2>Zach Allan's been rubbish this year though, But I don't

1020
00:50:37.000 --> 00:50:39.280
<v Speaker 2>think you can count Zach Gallon as a rubbish picture.

1021
00:50:39.280 --> 00:50:43.199
<v Speaker 2>He's having a bad year, So like, yeah, resign him,

1022
00:50:43.239 --> 00:50:45.199
<v Speaker 2>you know, keep him around. I think that's exactly the

1023
00:50:45.280 --> 00:50:46.519
<v Speaker 2>kind of guy you want to You want to keep

1024
00:50:46.679 --> 00:50:49.280
<v Speaker 2>keepers a center core part of your team, but you know,

1025
00:50:50.239 --> 00:50:54.119
<v Speaker 2>keep your Martoes around, keep your you know, your Corbyn Carrols,

1026
00:50:54.119 --> 00:50:55.679
<v Speaker 2>even though I find him a very peculiar man to

1027
00:50:55.719 --> 00:50:58.239
<v Speaker 2>look at. I don't dislike him, he just finding very

1028
00:50:58.239 --> 00:51:00.440
<v Speaker 2>peculiar to look at, especially when he's running. But that's

1029
00:51:00.480 --> 00:51:03.400
<v Speaker 2>neither here nor there. Keep going again that the team

1030
00:51:03.480 --> 00:51:05.599
<v Speaker 2>is everything it needs to be. It's about the rest

1031
00:51:05.599 --> 00:51:08.400
<v Speaker 2>of the division that is the problem. That's the plastic flower.

1032
00:51:08.400 --> 00:51:13.360
<v Speaker 2>Your stupid cat still crying it. Sorry a digression there. Yes,

1033
00:51:13.599 --> 00:51:15.679
<v Speaker 2>the dbats stay as they are. I agree with John.

1034
00:51:15.599 --> 00:51:17.800
<v Speaker 1>Great and the last one I had was the Miami Marlins.

1035
00:51:17.840 --> 00:51:19.639
<v Speaker 1>I saw that Pete was looking at flights to Miami

1036
00:51:19.679 --> 00:51:22.599
<v Speaker 1>in October on Twitter earlier today. So some people are

1037
00:51:22.599 --> 00:51:25.960
<v Speaker 1>believing in this wind streak they're on, they will be

1038
00:51:26.159 --> 00:51:27.960
<v Speaker 1>selling if they even have anything to sell, won't they?

1039
00:51:28.039 --> 00:51:31.320
<v Speaker 1>Unless this windstreak continues, who knows what have they.

1040
00:51:31.320 --> 00:51:34.559
<v Speaker 3>Got that they could actually sell? Like, come on, of course,

1041
00:51:34.639 --> 00:51:39.599
<v Speaker 3>that's the sculpture the culture. Yeah, they are always selling

1042
00:51:40.199 --> 00:51:40.960
<v Speaker 3>all the time.

1043
00:51:41.639 --> 00:51:43.159
<v Speaker 1>Sandy, does anyone even want him?

1044
00:51:43.920 --> 00:51:47.679
<v Speaker 3>Sandy's not been great, Robi, your camera's died.

1045
00:51:48.159 --> 00:51:50.039
<v Speaker 2>I know, my cat just literally pulled it out.

1046
00:51:50.119 --> 00:51:56.000
<v Speaker 3>I do well, cat, Yes, Sandy's not been great. And

1047
00:51:56.119 --> 00:51:59.159
<v Speaker 3>then you know, the players that have actually been quite

1048
00:51:59.199 --> 00:52:01.360
<v Speaker 3>good have all been like the younger ons, haven't they

1049
00:52:01.440 --> 00:52:03.599
<v Speaker 3>so like what I was gonna say, why would they

1050
00:52:03.679 --> 00:52:05.519
<v Speaker 3>sell them? But this is the Marlins, this is what

1051
00:52:05.639 --> 00:52:11.679
<v Speaker 3>they do. This is Christine Yelich, this is John Carlos, Stanton,

1052
00:52:12.199 --> 00:52:14.840
<v Speaker 3>Jake Berger. Oh, this is going to be part of

1053
00:52:14.880 --> 00:52:17.639
<v Speaker 3>the next Good Marlins team. Incorrect, There's not going to

1054
00:52:17.679 --> 00:52:19.079
<v Speaker 3>be another Good Marlins team. Ever.

1055
00:52:22.079 --> 00:52:24.199
<v Speaker 1>Let's move on to the final bit of the pod then,

1056
00:52:24.519 --> 00:52:27.559
<v Speaker 1>and let's talk It's eerie Sea Wolves. I don't know

1057
00:52:27.599 --> 00:52:31.159
<v Speaker 1>if you guys have followed this more closely than I have. Robbie,

1058
00:52:31.159 --> 00:52:32.599
<v Speaker 1>I think you were the one who shared yesterday in

1059
00:52:32.679 --> 00:52:36.639
<v Speaker 1>our group chat the article that was on MBI dot

1060
00:52:36.719 --> 00:52:40.119
<v Speaker 1>com that caught our attention. Do you feel comfortable talking

1061
00:52:40.199 --> 00:52:41.880
<v Speaker 1>through the story and why I caught our attention?

1062
00:52:43.760 --> 00:52:46.239
<v Speaker 2>Not not particularly, I just sort of kind of saw it,

1063
00:52:46.320 --> 00:52:51.599
<v Speaker 2>okay that basically there was a bit of a competition

1064
00:52:51.760 --> 00:52:56.199
<v Speaker 2>going on. I was on the John Oliver was was

1065
00:52:56.760 --> 00:53:00.760
<v Speaker 2>was talking about rebranding a minor league team and the

1066
00:53:00.840 --> 00:53:02.920
<v Speaker 2>Sea Wolves, the fact that they are absolutely nowhere near

1067
00:53:02.960 --> 00:53:07.360
<v Speaker 2>the sea. It came up and was an entertaining part

1068
00:53:07.400 --> 00:53:09.840
<v Speaker 2>of part of his show. So they had this competition,

1069
00:53:10.480 --> 00:53:15.079
<v Speaker 2>and the Sea Wolves emailed into into his show and

1070
00:53:15.440 --> 00:53:16.920
<v Speaker 2>on that on that list of things was was a

1071
00:53:17.000 --> 00:53:18.679
<v Speaker 2>list of reasons as to why they should be the

1072
00:53:19.079 --> 00:53:22.199
<v Speaker 2>the team that gets the rebrand and and they have

1073
00:53:22.360 --> 00:53:25.159
<v Speaker 2>they won that. The thing of note from that on

1074
00:53:25.280 --> 00:53:27.239
<v Speaker 2>that email was was actually a shout out to the

1075
00:53:27.280 --> 00:53:29.000
<v Speaker 2>fact that they are and if you will cast yourself

1076
00:53:29.039 --> 00:53:34.440
<v Speaker 2>back to insert number of podcasts here, we actually elected

1077
00:53:34.760 --> 00:53:38.239
<v Speaker 2>the Eerie Sea Wolves as the official British minor League

1078
00:53:38.280 --> 00:53:42.239
<v Speaker 2>team and that made it into into the email and subsequently,

1079
00:53:42.280 --> 00:53:45.559
<v Speaker 2>if you follow the story on the MLB app you

1080
00:53:45.599 --> 00:53:48.039
<v Speaker 2>will find a link to to add podcast on this.

1081
00:53:49.320 --> 00:53:51.880
<v Speaker 2>I was quite exciting that we we got that that

1082
00:53:52.119 --> 00:53:54.840
<v Speaker 2>nod from from from the Big the Big Time. But yeah,

1083
00:53:54.880 --> 00:53:57.599
<v Speaker 2>so that that's that's the that's the story in a nutshell.

1084
00:53:57.719 --> 00:53:59.239
<v Speaker 2>I haven't really followed it much closer than that.

1085
00:54:00.440 --> 00:54:02.800
<v Speaker 3>I haven't either. It's one of those things where it's

1086
00:54:02.840 --> 00:54:06.480
<v Speaker 3>occasionally come up in my Instagram feed because you know,

1087
00:54:07.159 --> 00:54:09.719
<v Speaker 3>baseball and John Oliver is sort of in the middle

1088
00:54:09.760 --> 00:54:13.000
<v Speaker 3>of some of my interests. Hey, I like satire and

1089
00:54:13.440 --> 00:54:15.800
<v Speaker 3>you know, maybe have a certain political outlook and also

1090
00:54:15.920 --> 00:54:19.159
<v Speaker 3>like baseball. I might like John Oliver clip where he's

1091
00:54:19.199 --> 00:54:21.920
<v Speaker 3>talking about baseball which he does fairly often. Actually, I

1092
00:54:21.920 --> 00:54:25.280
<v Speaker 3>think is a big Mets fan, isn't he. So yeah,

1093
00:54:25.440 --> 00:54:28.079
<v Speaker 3>it's come up, But I wouldn't say I knew an

1094
00:54:28.119 --> 00:54:30.400
<v Speaker 3>awful lot more than Rob. I had seen that he

1095
00:54:30.599 --> 00:54:34.920
<v Speaker 3>had selected the Sea Wolves a few weeks ago for

1096
00:54:35.239 --> 00:54:38.360
<v Speaker 3>the reasons that Rob outlined, primarily that they're called the

1097
00:54:38.400 --> 00:54:40.039
<v Speaker 3>Sea Wolves and they know where Ney of the Sea.

1098
00:54:41.159 --> 00:54:43.719
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, I didn't know that we had played even

1099
00:54:43.920 --> 00:54:47.440
<v Speaker 3>a tiny role in it until yesterday when when Rob

1100
00:54:47.519 --> 00:54:51.400
<v Speaker 3>shared that that link where we are references I think

1101
00:54:51.559 --> 00:54:55.840
<v Speaker 3>the fourth of eleven reasons why why John Oliver should

1102
00:54:55.880 --> 00:54:59.840
<v Speaker 3>be partaking and working with the team there. So he

1103
00:55:00.239 --> 00:55:05.400
<v Speaker 3>thanks to Greg Coleman, who's the general manager and president

1104
00:55:05.480 --> 00:55:10.559
<v Speaker 3>of the Sea Wolves, and Greg Ganya who's their their

1105
00:55:10.880 --> 00:55:14.119
<v Speaker 3>their voice and media lead for including us in that.

1106
00:55:14.840 --> 00:55:16.559
<v Speaker 3>We haven't done anything with the Sea Wolves for a

1107
00:55:16.639 --> 00:55:20.320
<v Speaker 3>few years now, but we had such great fun picking

1108
00:55:20.400 --> 00:55:23.519
<v Speaker 3>that and they were such great sports and a bunch

1109
00:55:23.559 --> 00:55:25.639
<v Speaker 3>of really nice people to work with and get to

1110
00:55:25.719 --> 00:55:28.880
<v Speaker 3>know a bit who've always done well by us. And

1111
00:55:29.039 --> 00:55:31.039
<v Speaker 3>it was fun to see them getting a bit of

1112
00:55:31.559 --> 00:55:35.159
<v Speaker 3>rub in the US national spotlight and there, and good

1113
00:55:35.199 --> 00:55:38.280
<v Speaker 3>to know that they were using the tenuous link that

1114
00:55:38.400 --> 00:55:41.039
<v Speaker 3>they had to the UK to where try and win

1115
00:55:41.159 --> 00:55:43.480
<v Speaker 3>the affections of you know, one of the one of

1116
00:55:43.519 --> 00:55:46.719
<v Speaker 3>the bigger cultural exports that we've had to to that

1117
00:55:46.880 --> 00:55:49.079
<v Speaker 3>country in the last few years. So yeah, and I

1118
00:55:49.119 --> 00:55:51.719
<v Speaker 3>think it's the Eerie Moon Mammoths. That's what they're going

1119
00:55:51.760 --> 00:55:54.960
<v Speaker 3>to be known as as their alternate identity from here

1120
00:55:55.000 --> 00:55:57.599
<v Speaker 3>on in. So yeah, we'll have to get ourselves some

1121
00:55:57.679 --> 00:55:59.480
<v Speaker 3>Eerie Moon Mammoths merch for sure.

1122
00:56:00.599 --> 00:56:03.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, looks the rebrand is fun. It's a big Willie

1123
00:56:03.960 --> 00:56:06.519
<v Speaker 1>mammoth and a moon but bizarrely and it's all sort

1124
00:56:06.519 --> 00:56:08.880
<v Speaker 1>of purple. And I love the color. Team is very fun.

1125
00:56:09.519 --> 00:56:12.239
<v Speaker 1>Almost rockies askue not to doom them this early. But yeah,

1126
00:56:12.239 --> 00:56:16.280
<v Speaker 1>they're playing a game as the Moon Mammoths on July nineteenth,

1127
00:56:16.320 --> 00:56:18.199
<v Speaker 1>which will be great fun. And yeah, I just thought

1128
00:56:18.199 --> 00:56:20.280
<v Speaker 1>it was cool like that they kind of harked back

1129
00:56:20.320 --> 00:56:22.559
<v Speaker 1>to that fun thing that we did a few years back.

1130
00:56:22.599 --> 00:56:22.679
<v Speaker 3>Now.

1131
00:56:22.719 --> 00:56:24.320
<v Speaker 1>I think John, that was probably you who did most

1132
00:56:24.360 --> 00:56:26.559
<v Speaker 1>of the work in that whole fun Twitter competition, I know,

1133
00:56:26.639 --> 00:56:28.320
<v Speaker 1>as you who wrote the article that MLB dot Com

1134
00:56:28.400 --> 00:56:31.239
<v Speaker 1>linked to and the interview with Greg Coleman, who was

1135
00:56:31.239 --> 00:56:33.960
<v Speaker 1>a really fun guest. So yeah, just a nice quirky

1136
00:56:34.559 --> 00:56:37.119
<v Speaker 1>minor league baseball bit of news that somehow found its

1137
00:56:37.159 --> 00:56:40.360
<v Speaker 1>way back to us. So yeah, hopefully that that whole

1138
00:56:40.400 --> 00:56:43.760
<v Speaker 1>rebrand goes well, and we would appreciate any UK based

1139
00:56:43.800 --> 00:56:46.679
<v Speaker 1>fans who are able to see what goes down there.

1140
00:56:46.719 --> 00:56:48.840
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, we have a little team.

1141
00:56:48.920 --> 00:56:52.719
<v Speaker 3>We haven't ever. We know that our buddy from the

1142
00:56:52.880 --> 00:56:55.079
<v Speaker 3>Red Sox group, Adam Perry, managed to make his way

1143
00:56:55.119 --> 00:56:57.159
<v Speaker 3>out to Eerie, but none of us have been. I've

1144
00:56:57.239 --> 00:56:59.639
<v Speaker 3>managed to get there, and we've always been promised that

1145
00:56:59.679 --> 00:57:01.840
<v Speaker 3>we could throw a first pitch if we went to Erie.

1146
00:57:01.920 --> 00:57:04.199
<v Speaker 3>So maybe we have to hand over that responsibility to

1147
00:57:04.280 --> 00:57:07.960
<v Speaker 3>John Olivery. I guess he's like our designated British person.

1148
00:57:08.400 --> 00:57:09.960
<v Speaker 3>I'm sure that they were going to let John Oliver

1149
00:57:10.199 --> 00:57:12.719
<v Speaker 3>our first pitch anyway, but let's just say he's doing

1150
00:57:12.800 --> 00:57:13.639
<v Speaker 3>it on our half.

1151
00:57:14.079 --> 00:57:14.880
<v Speaker 1>He's got our blessing.

1152
00:57:15.360 --> 00:57:19.119
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, very he's you know, in some respects slightly

1153
00:57:19.199 --> 00:57:24.880
<v Speaker 3>more august than us, not in others, though Tom Pringle's

1154
00:57:24.880 --> 00:57:29.400
<v Speaker 3>got a longer head for a start. Rob your cat

1155
00:57:29.519 --> 00:57:30.840
<v Speaker 3>is absolutely crucified.

1156
00:57:30.920 --> 00:57:33.360
<v Speaker 2>It's absolutely knackered it. I have tried it in every

1157
00:57:33.519 --> 00:57:36.639
<v Speaker 2>USB hole like it seems to be not getting any power.

1158
00:57:37.079 --> 00:57:38.519
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what the hell's gone on here?

1159
00:57:39.559 --> 00:57:45.239
<v Speaker 1>Oh well, don't getting my homework. Cat destroyed my webcam? Yeah, Rob,

1160
00:57:45.239 --> 00:57:47.000
<v Speaker 1>were you gonna try it? I don't know if this

1161
00:57:47.119 --> 00:57:48.800
<v Speaker 1>was you pop this into ournery. We're going to try

1162
00:57:48.800 --> 00:57:51.000
<v Speaker 1>and end us on a very depressing note here topic one.

1163
00:57:52.199 --> 00:57:54.519
<v Speaker 1>You if you if you'd like to just quickly riff

1164
00:57:54.559 --> 00:57:54.760
<v Speaker 1>on that.

1165
00:57:55.840 --> 00:57:58.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, not wanting to end on an absolute gowner. But

1166
00:57:59.559 --> 00:58:02.599
<v Speaker 2>many people they notice the wonder Franco trial has come

1167
00:58:02.679 --> 00:58:07.440
<v Speaker 2>to its conclusion and it look, I'm not I don't

1168
00:58:07.519 --> 00:58:10.360
<v Speaker 2>know the ins and outs of the Dominican Republic's legal system,

1169
00:58:10.760 --> 00:58:12.920
<v Speaker 2>but it seems that there's been an absolute farce of

1170
00:58:12.960 --> 00:58:15.119
<v Speaker 2>a hypocrisy here to do with a man who's got

1171
00:58:15.119 --> 00:58:17.840
<v Speaker 2>a bit of money getting a very very short sentence

1172
00:58:17.880 --> 00:58:21.599
<v Speaker 2>compared to other people around him. So essentially, the the

1173
00:58:23.559 --> 00:58:28.440
<v Speaker 2>ruling is, yes, he is absolutely he it was inappropriate

1174
00:58:28.519 --> 00:58:33.800
<v Speaker 2>sexual relations with a minor and he's got himself a

1175
00:58:33.880 --> 00:58:36.679
<v Speaker 2>two year suspended sentence. So essentially, as long as he

1176
00:58:36.679 --> 00:58:40.079
<v Speaker 2>doesn't do it again, he just walks scott free. In

1177
00:58:40.159 --> 00:58:45.760
<v Speaker 2>the same breath, the mother of the girl involved, no

1178
00:58:45.880 --> 00:58:48.239
<v Speaker 2>saint of core absolute What she done was absolutely heinous.

1179
00:58:48.519 --> 00:58:52.239
<v Speaker 2>She's got ten years behind bars, which it just seems

1180
00:58:52.320 --> 00:58:54.960
<v Speaker 2>like the bloke with the cash here has managed to

1181
00:58:55.039 --> 00:58:58.320
<v Speaker 2>dodge it and she hasn't. Now he's got another court

1182
00:58:58.360 --> 00:59:03.159
<v Speaker 2>case coming up soon to do with weapons charges. But look,

1183
00:59:03.239 --> 00:59:04.880
<v Speaker 2>at the end of the day, it's done. Now we

1184
00:59:05.000 --> 00:59:07.719
<v Speaker 2>know this, this awful human being is not going to

1185
00:59:07.760 --> 00:59:10.280
<v Speaker 2>come anywhere near near baseball again. I'm sure Major League

1186
00:59:10.280 --> 00:59:13.039
<v Speaker 2>Baseball going to do their investigations given that it's been

1187
00:59:13.079 --> 00:59:15.320
<v Speaker 2>the court of law. Now he's been absolutely said, yes,

1188
00:59:15.400 --> 00:59:17.239
<v Speaker 2>this guy is a sexual predator. He's not going to

1189
00:59:17.320 --> 00:59:19.199
<v Speaker 2>come back near the game, and that's the absolute right

1190
00:59:19.280 --> 00:59:21.039
<v Speaker 2>thing to do. But the fact that he's still able

1191
00:59:21.079 --> 00:59:24.840
<v Speaker 2>to walk the streets without actually actually going behind behind

1192
00:59:24.920 --> 00:59:27.119
<v Speaker 2>bars for something as awful as what he did is

1193
00:59:27.559 --> 00:59:30.719
<v Speaker 2>to my mind, absolutely disgusting. So it's a horrible way

1194
00:59:30.719 --> 00:59:32.639
<v Speaker 2>to end this hen this podcast, but I think it

1195
00:59:32.760 --> 00:59:35.199
<v Speaker 2>needs to be to be marked upon that. You know,

1196
00:59:35.280 --> 00:59:37.559
<v Speaker 2>we've got to call this kind of hypocrisy when when

1197
00:59:37.599 --> 00:59:40.400
<v Speaker 2>we see it, because money should not be able to

1198
00:59:40.480 --> 00:59:42.480
<v Speaker 2>buy you the way out of this the way it

1199
00:59:42.559 --> 00:59:45.000
<v Speaker 2>hasn't for this girl's mother. You know, they both should

1200
00:59:45.079 --> 00:59:48.440
<v Speaker 2>absolutely be doing time for this to my mind anyway,

1201
00:59:49.519 --> 00:59:52.239
<v Speaker 2>And this bloke, whilst his career is over and rightly so,

1202
00:59:54.199 --> 00:59:56.360
<v Speaker 2>he's out and about, he's doing this thing. How long

1203
00:59:56.440 --> 00:59:58.000
<v Speaker 2>is it before we see him in the Mexican leagues?

1204
00:59:58.079 --> 01:00:00.960
<v Speaker 2>Maybe NPB, You know, I I don't know. I don't

1205
01:00:01.000 --> 01:00:03.360
<v Speaker 2>know what it would take to get into those countries.

1206
01:00:04.079 --> 01:00:07.599
<v Speaker 2>But it's just not right. Something doesn't feel just here.

1207
01:00:07.719 --> 01:00:10.079
<v Speaker 2>This feels just feels icky, and I really don't like it.

1208
01:00:10.400 --> 01:00:13.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's not the first, and I fear it won't

1209
01:00:14.000 --> 01:00:16.760
<v Speaker 1>be the last time that things like this happen, where yeah,

1210
01:00:16.880 --> 01:00:19.639
<v Speaker 1>guys who are rich and powerful kind of get away

1211
01:00:19.679 --> 01:00:22.519
<v Speaker 1>with stuff that they shouldn't tell us all the time

1212
01:00:22.599 --> 01:00:26.679
<v Speaker 1>in many ways. But yeah, like you say, unpleasant given

1213
01:00:26.800 --> 01:00:28.920
<v Speaker 1>what came out during that trial, that he is possibly

1214
01:00:28.960 --> 01:00:30.280
<v Speaker 1>going to be able to walk away scot free. And

1215
01:00:30.360 --> 01:00:32.039
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure he's just so our taste in the mouth

1216
01:00:32.119 --> 01:00:34.639
<v Speaker 1>of anyone who has been following him or the rais

1217
01:00:34.960 --> 01:00:37.000
<v Speaker 1>or this story. So not a pleasant way for it

1218
01:00:37.079 --> 01:00:37.760
<v Speaker 1>to end.

1219
01:00:37.840 --> 01:00:39.840
<v Speaker 2>Or this podcast, not a pleasant way for it to end.

1220
01:00:39.920 --> 01:00:44.119
<v Speaker 3>But anyone got a fun behind the cloak of anonymity,

1221
01:00:44.679 --> 01:00:49.360
<v Speaker 3>just you know, they just just made it had more heft, mate,

1222
01:00:50.079 --> 01:00:50.239
<v Speaker 3>or the.

1223
01:00:50.199 --> 01:00:51.920
<v Speaker 2>Fact that you can't see my angry face.

1224
01:00:52.320 --> 01:00:56.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, we just you know, you did this

1225
01:00:56.519 --> 01:00:58.360
<v Speaker 3>in like a black thing that just had a camera

1226
01:00:58.480 --> 01:01:04.360
<v Speaker 3>that wasn't working on it. So yeah, I enjoyed serious job.

1227
01:01:04.840 --> 01:01:06.679
<v Speaker 3>They're rarely viewed serious role.

1228
01:01:07.159 --> 01:01:09.119
<v Speaker 2>You know, it's not viewed this time.

1229
01:01:09.519 --> 01:01:12.840
<v Speaker 3>Things have got quite quite difficult if we're getting a

1230
01:01:12.840 --> 01:01:17.679
<v Speaker 3>serious rob No, you're completely right, mate, and absolutely spot

1231
01:01:17.760 --> 01:01:21.639
<v Speaker 3>on that we should pin that down. Well.

1232
01:01:21.639 --> 01:01:23.679
<v Speaker 1>I end on a slightly lighter note in that there

1233
01:01:23.880 --> 01:01:26.000
<v Speaker 1>is some great content going on to our website and

1234
01:01:26.119 --> 01:01:28.639
<v Speaker 1>that people should check it out as usual. In the

1235
01:01:28.760 --> 01:01:31.840
<v Speaker 1>last few days, we've had some articles on the globalization

1236
01:01:31.920 --> 01:01:33.639
<v Speaker 1>of Major League Baseball when markets lym, which is a

1237
01:01:33.679 --> 01:01:35.920
<v Speaker 1>great read. We've got a really fun article about cal

1238
01:01:36.000 --> 01:01:38.719
<v Speaker 1>Rally by Carl Taylor that folks should go to and

1239
01:01:38.840 --> 01:01:41.800
<v Speaker 1>check out. And I know that Brett and the editorial

1240
01:01:41.880 --> 01:01:44.320
<v Speaker 1>team and Gave and others are looking for people to

1241
01:01:44.360 --> 01:01:47.760
<v Speaker 1>send in submissions for my favorite Player series that has

1242
01:01:47.880 --> 01:01:49.519
<v Speaker 1>been the kind of on our feature of the site

1243
01:01:49.599 --> 01:01:51.639
<v Speaker 1>for a few years now. I think all of us

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<v Speaker 1>on this court we've probably written an article contributing to

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<v Speaker 1>that at various points, but It is a fun way

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<v Speaker 1>to just show off your fandom. So do get in

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<v Speaker 1>touch with us on the social channels and we will

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<v Speaker 1>put you in touch with the right people to get

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<v Speaker 1>your writing into the right place. So yeah, make sure

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<v Speaker 1>to do that. So I think that's it for us.

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<v Speaker 1>We will be back again very soon, I imagine, to

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<v Speaker 1>discuss everything else happening in the world baseball between now

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<v Speaker 1>and the All Star break and the trade deadline, which

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<v Speaker 1>we'll be back for, and maybe to discuss any of

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<v Speaker 1>the yeah news that comes out around that. It might

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<v Speaker 1>be a Hackney event, which we're very much.

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<v Speaker 3>Looking forward to.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks very much, John, Thanks very much, Rob behind the camera,

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<v Speaker 1>and we will see you guys very soon.

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<v Speaker 3>Much Tampa or Chicago, the cat for your interference, Bye soon,

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<v Speaker 3>Bye bye.
