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Speaker 2: Guys, Number eleven, bo of your returns to the friendly

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conference tonight of the Marriage Center on a beautiful evening.

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Hopefully we're getting the muck out of the air. Need

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a little bit of moisture, but they host TCU tip

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off is a late one nine pm mount time and

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if you don't want to head out there and watch

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the game at the Marriage Say if you don't have tickets,

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you can watch it on ESPN two. Dave Fleming and

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Sean Farnham are going to be on the call. Wednesday

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will be the twenty fifth all time meeting between the

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Cougars and the horn Frogs and the twelfth in provo

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BYU holds a twenty to four advantage in the series

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pretty lopsided, not all that competitive, including seven straight wins

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at the Marriott Center dating back to their days in

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the Mountain West Conference the Mountain West Conference era and

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their only other meeting at the Marriott Center as Big

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twelve O's bway overcame a seventeen point halftime deficit to

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defeat the horn Frogs eighty seven to seventy five on

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March second, twenty twenty four. Richie that Todd King Sanders

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Saunders is the only remedding Cougar that played in that game,

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as the Riverton native and the Washsatch Academy product finished

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with eleven points in twenty four minutes of action, going

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four to five from the field and one to one

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from the three point line and three for four from

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the free throw line to the charity stride. He also

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had seven rebounds in two assists as the Cougars outscored

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the TCU horn Frogs fifty eight to twenty nine after halftime.

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They did a nice job there, and so did Richie.

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BYU's back and ready to defend it's eleven game home

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win streak versus the TCU Horned Frogs tonight that began

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with that eighty to sixty five victory over Kansas State

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on February fifteenth. Though twenty five, their current home win

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streak is tied for the twenty second longest in the

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NC DOUBLEA Division One men's basketball. Okay, that's an impressive run,

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ladies and gentlemen, Boys and girls. The Cougars are seven

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to zero at home this season, including eclipsing the century

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mark in back to back games in the same season

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for the first time since December.

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Speaker 3: Nineteen ninety two.

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Speaker 2: They are one of the top offensive teams in the

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country when playing at the Marriott Center, ranking second in

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net ratings right now, second and two point field goal

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percentage and fourth and offensive rating, fourth in true shooting

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percentage and fourth in effective field goal percentage, sixth in

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field goal percentage in the seventh and fast breakpoints.

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Speaker 3: So I believe Ken Palm has him.

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Speaker 2: As the eighth overall best offensive team in college basketball

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and eighteenth on the defensive side of the ball.

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Speaker 3: And they have tremendous talent.

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Speaker 2: But let's get to know the foe ladies and gentlemen

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that are tuning into the show as we prep get

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ready for this BYUTCU.

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Speaker 3: Match up a late tip off.

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Speaker 2: Let's welcome in Brian Astridge, the voice of the TCU

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Hornfrogs of the show.

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Speaker 3: Brian, how are you, Ben?

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Speaker 4: I'm doing great? Man? Ready for little conversation going on here?

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Speaker 2: Yes, indeed, I was breaking down BYU side of the

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ball man.

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Speaker 4: You had the numbers down, dude, Yeah, we got it.

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Speaker 2: We got to get into all the knicks and crannies,

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all the metrics, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: And I've been looking at TCU as well.

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Speaker 2: This is a team that's trying to find its groove

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offensively defensively though they're a top twenty five program right now.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the offense has really come on, and

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Jamie Dixon has been pleased with how they've handled himselves.

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He wasn't exactly totally pleased with what they did defensively

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to start the ball game against Arizona, but you and

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I both know Arizona's a freaking basketball team, and then

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the defense let him down in the end at Kansas

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score one hundred points, you would think that that should

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be enough at Allen Field House to come away with

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the victory. So he's actually been pleased with the way

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his offenses are spawned in the last couple of games,

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but wants to see that intensity continue on the defensive side.

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hat on over the years, and he wants to happen

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again this year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, even when you know this TCU team hasn't been

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producing a lot of points, they were winning. They had

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a nice winning Street North Texas Incarnate Word or a

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Roberts Florida and m Jackson State, and you got to

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win versus Baylor.

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Speaker 3: Not the most arduous stretch.

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Speaker 2: Of games, but it looked like you guys were finding

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ways to win outside of just getting buckets.

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Speaker 4: Well, some of that, obviously, you know, is dictated by

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the opponents. Too. Many of those teams started to slow

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it down, you know, Incarnate worders, so those guys didn't

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want to necessarily run as much for TCUs as you

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were thinking. And then and then the Baylor game was

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you know, that was just a testament to Big twelve basketball.

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numbers offensively. I think Baylor had scored one hundred and

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three straight games, and that just felt like, all of

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a sudden, you put on the brakes because big twelve

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plays started, every be every possession mattered. Uh, and so

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Speaker 2: I'm looking at these games in which, like, for instance,

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the Michigan game, the number one team per Ken Palm,

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sixty seven to sixty three. That was a tough loss,

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but you guys stayed competitive. I look at the Notre

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Dame game, that was a tough loss. Florida, you gotta win, though,

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Wisconsin got to win.

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Speaker 3: This is a this is.

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Speaker 2: A good TCU team, a very competitive versus Kansas, very

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competitive versus you of a. I don't know if the

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record necessarily or even the Ken Palm ranking necessarily depicts

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an accurate kind of a truth serum of who TCU is.

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Speaker 4: What do you have? What do you have? What's Ken Palm?

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Gunna man you're tracking that for you? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: So TCU right now is uh let me pull this

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up really quick.

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Speaker 3: Uh, there they are. Let's see here, tc where you at,

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where you're at?

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Speaker 4: Like they were right on the bubble.

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Speaker 2: Fifty second right now, So they're ninety ninth in off

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it's the efficiency twenty fourth in defensive efficiency for fifty second.

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Speaker 4: That's pretty I'd say that's pretty accurate. I mean, you know,

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nobody up until Wisconsin meeting Michigan, nobody had played Michigan

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as tight as TCU had, and you said hung with him.

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I mean, actually TCU led for late in that ballgame

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and Michigan came back. Had Notre Dame beat You're up

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double digits on Notre Dame in the second half. Let

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that one slip away. That was a tough one. We

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talked about Kansas and overtime. Arizona's a really good basketball team.

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So that's that's four of your five right there. The

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one that hurts is New Orleans to start the year.

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But you're a basketball guy, you know that. I mean

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New Orleans walked in the arena with Master p as

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their GM, and he had gone out and signed two

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guys nobody knew was on the roster. You know that

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could actually play. And so and now I'm not saying

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that the team you should lose to you shouldn't, but

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I think it probably caught TCU off guard a little bit.

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With that being said, you know that there were some

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wins in there. You could have stole them, There's no

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question about it. But I think at this point, when

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when you see how much money you spent in college basketball,

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especially on the Big twelve side, you guys know about

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it here at YU better than anybody. With the dollars

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that TCU has allotted for basketball and the production that

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they're getting out of the players that they got out

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of the portal, I think folks should be fairly satisfied.

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Speaker 2: I had no idea that master P was the president

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of basketball operations for the University.

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Speaker 4: Of New Orleans. Isn't they crazy? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Because where we are, man, I feel like we got

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to get some music going here at the end of

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the at the end of the interview, just to highlight MASTERP.

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Shout out to master P, a part of my childhood,

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my young adulthood.

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Speaker 3: All Right, So you.

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Speaker 2: Mentioned per dollar spent, you feel like TCU is in

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a good spot. What type of NIL support is TCU's

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basketball program getting right now?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's like in three and a half million, So

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compare that to be my use.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, where does that stack up?

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Speaker 2: Do you think that what do you think three and

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a half million has the payroll? What do you think

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that stacks up? Like in college basketball? Even in the

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and who knows. I would say it's, uh, it's

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middle to lower end of the twelve. I mean you

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look at by U in Texas Tech respectively, Caynes is

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obviously as H has been spending it for years, and

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so I think you got you know, I think you've

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got a group up at the top. That's that's a

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lot different than many of the teams that the resulte

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at the bottom as far as that numbers. Would you agree, Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I think so.

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Speaker 2: It is a bit reflective of maybe where they're ranked

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right now in the Big twelve or tenth in the

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Big twelve.

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Speaker 4: Standings, Yeah, which is where they were picked right in

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the preseason pole. Yeah, I would see. I would say

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that's probably about right. Yeah. Isn't that interesting how the

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money is is uh, you can follow the money and

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determine where it's finishing league. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And it works for basketball? Is it? Is it

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always equivalent in in football? Right now? Is it?

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Speaker 2: Is it the ones that are paying the most winning

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the most? Do you think in college football as well?

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Speaker 4: Well taking b YU both were at the top, right,

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Arizona State was up there. I would I would say,

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if you look at the Big twelve, that would be

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the example that I would use. You know, it seems

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like that has been the case, right, Yeah, you know.

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Speaker 2: It's the Indiana situation is intriguing to me because I

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don't feel like they've acquired as much talent.

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Speaker 4: Uh and more than we say. I think they've spent

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more than you thought. I think so, yeah, I think

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they may have spent more than your team. What they

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have done too is you know, uh, they've been they've

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also gone out and you know, brought a bunch of

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guys from James Madison. They probably don't have to overpay

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for yeah. So, but but he filled in some holes

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pretty nicely with you guys.

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Speaker 3: What what happened with with Hoover? How did TCU lose Hoover?

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Speaker 2: I thought I thought, you know, I thought Sonny would

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be able to retain him. Obviously he got he got

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Speaker 3: But how's the NIL support on the.

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and that they would have loved to have kept Hoover,

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but uh, you know, Hoover wanted to go play in

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another place. I guess he wanted, uh, you know, to

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make more money. And I think DC was pretty generous

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in what they where they were. I don't really know

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the exact numbers, but uh, you know, uh, and and

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Indiana doing I don't know, actually singing published, but apparently

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he is getting more money. And so yeah, I mean

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it all kind of again, follow the money, right m h. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: It's uh, it's hard to get old and staled these days,

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isn't it. You'll been doing this for a long time.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it is. I mean it's you know, it's uh,

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it's hard to figure out exactly where we are too

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as a sport, uh or really as a you know,

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and what what are we doing in college sports?

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Speaker 3: You know this rock ruined?

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Speaker 4: Man, you played. You don't want to mess it up,

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do you?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think there's I think it's a

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I'm a I'm an entrepreneur, I'm a capitalist. Uh, and

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so I do like free markets, and the pendulum has

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swung and it's probably swung too far, and I wanted

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to to get back into center, but you know it

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needs to swing as far this direction where there's it's

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like kind of a player advocacy era where they have

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all the power because the NC double a kind of

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sorta uh uh, you know, kind of pillaged for a

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long time, took advantage for a long time, you know

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what I mean?

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Speaker 4: And so, and did you graduate from Yai?

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Speaker 3: I did? Yeah? Yep?

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Speaker 4: How much? How much classes?

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Speaker 3: How much classes?

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Speaker 4: Know? How much were classes? How much did the jet

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to pay to go to class?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Man? Well, I mean look, I was a walk on initially,

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so I didn't get the initial scholarship. But you know

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there's a subsidy as well because of tithes and offerings. Right,

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so if you're a member of the church, your return missionary,

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the classes were much cheaper. I think my tuition was

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around like twenty five hundred per semester, so it's pretty cheap.

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Speaker 4: So you had to pay twenty five eleven D semester.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, until I got the scholarship, have to pay right, yep, yeah,

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one hundred percent. No's a there's a question, like when

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I chocked it up, when I was looking at the

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hours allocated when I was on scholarship, when I was

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receiving you know, taking into account the tuition and scholarship check,

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I was probably making, you know, per hour, probably around

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twelve thirteen, maybe fourteen bucks an hour as a football

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player in two thousand and seven, two thousand and eight.

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Speaker 4: How many other college kids were making it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you can make an argument for that

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that they are making as much or they're making as much,

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but they weren't doing something as fun as what I

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was doing.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 4: Well, we've just we've devalued the degree. Uh, you know,

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we we've devalued the education. When people go, oh, well,

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you know, uh, they got to have more than the

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scholarship is worse something. I got two kids in college,

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fortunate one. Both of them played college athletics. One of

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them is a Division one baseball player and goes and

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goes for free. All right, it actually makes money going

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to school. Not but he goes to a non nil

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school Division one uh and then uh, and then he

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goes to an academy. Uh. My daughter plays Division three

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softball at a school that's I'm not complaining she picked

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it and it was the right thing for her. It's

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as expensive or more expensive than an IVY school. M

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h okay uh and so but to her, the value

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of the education something sure, you know, and I think

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that's what we have to get back to, is, hey,

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you're going to get a degree from b yu man.

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There is value in that. And I but no one

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talks about that. How many guys how many times on

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your show have you talked about, Hey, that the student

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athlete is progressing toward a degree. You remember we used

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to hear that. Yeah, you know, how many guys were

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ineligible during the college football bowl season this year academic?

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Speaker 2: Well well, well well there was a lot of them

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that weren't going to class, Like they're not going to class.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but they're not.

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Speaker 4: Ineligible, ineligible they couldn't play in the bowl game because

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of academics.

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Speaker 3: I mean, no, I don't think any of them.

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Speaker 4: I think I think there was one when you were playing.

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That would happen all the time. Sure, so we're not

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we're not talking about academics anymore. We're not talking about

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the degree, We're not talking about the value of that,

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uh and no one. And so I just think, to me,

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that's that's where the world's changing. And maybe not for good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I do. I do think there needs to

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be a balancing of it, all right.

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Speaker 2: It has to be this has to be a transformational

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experience on a transactional experience, right, and you'd hope that

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education takes precedence with that. But you know, I mean, look,

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the NCAA is a two billion dollar organization and none

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of that was trickling down to the player.

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Speaker 3: And they weren't allowing.

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Speaker 2: For name, image and likeness, transactionality, right, Like if I

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would have got if I would have worked at like

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a any job and received twenty dollars an hour and

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that was above whatever the fair market rate was, that

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would be viewed as an improper benefit and I could

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be ineligible, right, like I.

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: And so it's really hard because like ESPN, Fox are

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making billions of dollars, coaches are making hundreds of millions

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of dollars. NCAA is making so much money and like

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the players aren't making I mean, they're getting their educate

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and that's that's enough.

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Speaker 3: And it was kind of like it was it to

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a degree. It's it.

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Speaker 2: It kind of seems I know, this is maybe too strong,

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but it's a little bit like indentured, a little indentitude,

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Speaker 4: Bit careful, dude. You were flying on a chartered plane.

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You had all kinds of gear. You ate seven meals

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a day, you know, I mean, uh, chicks, w I

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mean there's it's a little it's a little different than

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an indentured service.

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Speaker 2: I know it's strong, but I mean it was it's strong,

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but I mean, you're you're only talking about the highest

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level right of of of play.

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Speaker 3: You know, power four, power five, and so it needs

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to balance.

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Speaker 2: Right, and and the the answer is what, well, the

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university is.

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Speaker 4: What that highest level are the only ones that are

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getting paid right now?

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Speaker 1: You know?

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Speaker 2: So, But everybody else is getting an education D one

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double A f c s. They're getting education, right, you're

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you know, and so I agree with you. There has

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to be a balancing effect here. And but you know,

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universities could have stepped in at any time and offered

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W two. They could figure out a W two salary,

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but the institutionals don't want to do it. Why don't

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they want to employ their students, their student athletes and

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say hey, well you get to go to school as

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well as you're as an employed person. They don't want

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to pay workmen's comp. They don't want to protect them,

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so they're they're a commodity and they're transacting from the

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player while making money off of them. Over the last years,

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universities are as much to blame as the NCAA, ESPN

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and FOX of course.

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Speaker 4: Something out here. Student athletes don't want to be employees, right,

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did you want to be an employee?

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean I didn't understand the ramifications of a

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W nine or W two at the time, but if

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you would have said, yeah, you get you get workmen's comp,

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then yeah, I want to I want to be an employee.

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me forty thousand dollars a year as a W two

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employee and take care of me with workman's comp at

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a four oh one K and retirement plan for my

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five years and set me up for.

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Speaker 3: Success, that's a part of the education as well.

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Speaker 2: Right, that would be a part of Hey, like, we're

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an advocate for the student athlete. But the universities have

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sat there and washed their hands of it taking money

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and making hundreds of millions of dollars. I don't know

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what the the P and L looks like for TCU,

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but the universities, I mean, their revenue in the athletic department,

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it's it's upwards one hundred million, one hundred and twenty million,

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one hundred and fifty million a year over year.

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Speaker 4: But then they turn around spend it. You know, none

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of them are very few of them are profitable. Now

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that's a whole nother story that we have a twenty

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minutes on that we all have. But sure, yeah, you know,

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it's how these universities allow these athletic departments to be run.

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That fiduciary fiduciary responsibility that is lacking there. Sure athletic

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directors on damn yeah, I mean you look at the contracts.

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You talk about contracts and coaches have the I mean

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that is ridiculous. You know, the payouts that are being

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throwing the coaches who get let go come on yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and the payouts go.

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Speaker 2: Lord man, I'm saying, is I appreciate the pendulum swinging?

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Speaker 3: Does it need to be fixed hundred percent? Let's go

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collective bargaining.

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Speaker 2: Let's figure out a way to have a salary cap

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and things of that nature.

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Speaker 3: But it has to be under the laws of the land.

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Speaker 2: Either federal government has to step in and say you

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can operate as a monopoly and impose these bylaws and

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you're we're gonna give you legal precedents to to be

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able to operate as a monopoly, or we got to

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figure out, you know, something else, uh down the pipeline.

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But you know, and I think for you as a

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play by play guy, and you've been doing this for

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a long time, one of the things that you know,

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we enjoy as media members is storytelling, right and getting

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to know the players, and it's hard to do that

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with all this carousel going on and that and it

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impacts us totally.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, you know, and that would that'd be a

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selfish view to say it impacts me as much as

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I I do worry about you know, like where do

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these guys go for homecoming? Now, if you go to

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four schools in four years homecoming, where do you where

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do you bring your eight year olds back and say, hey,

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this is where daddy played yep, and where and where's

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daddy welcome? You know, think about that with Joshuber if

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Joshuverer would have stayed one more year at TCU. He

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would have left as the number one quarterback in every category.

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All right, Yeah, the history of TCU. His eight year

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old son, and he could have walked down the hall

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of the football office anytime they wanted to, and he

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could have eaten for free and for worth the rest

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of his life. Yep. But he walked away from it

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for another five hundred thounds a bucks. Yep. Think about

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the long term decision that is man and so now

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all of a sudden he can't bring his eight year

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old son back to a place. And he gave three

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years to put up some huge numbers, was highly successful,

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but he's not. He's not. He's not going to be

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welcome here because the fans are going, hey, that's a dude, leftists,

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that's a dude. That quit. M h. No.

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Speaker 2: I think it's powerful, that retention message. You know, it

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needs to be promulgated from every every athletic department, every

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football for every football coach.

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Speaker 3: Right And I'm sure it was I'm sure it was pitched.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure I'm sure they said it. But I mean,

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you know, how do you get that message across and

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in the media, we're just as guilty of it when

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we say, oh, he opt out of the opted out

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of the bowl game. No he didn't quit.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he quit.

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Speaker 4: Who decided we need to go We need to glamorize

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this word in the description of it. No, they quit

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on their team. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And he's from Heath, Texas.

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Speaker 4: You know he's a Texas Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 3: Yes, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: And I'm not singling out Josh Hooper when I say quit,

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I'm talking about every guy who didn't play in the

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bowl game, who was with his team for all throughout

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the whole year, who decided I'm not going to play

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in that bowl game because i might get the portal

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I'm going to do this. You quit, man.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And isn't it our responsibility as educators to also the

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whole kids accountable and teach them what that's like in

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the real world.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the long term.

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Speaker 2: I when I'm pitching it, it's this, right, it's do

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you want short term earning potential long term learning potential?

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So don't be so, you can't be short sighted. You

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can build a legacy. Yes, you need a fair market

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wage for the fair market you know, evaluations, but you know,

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I talk about long term earning potential, which is educational, right,

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It's about it's about what you can make in that

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community for years to come, ten years, fifteen down, like

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real estate deals, commercial deals, whatever, it could be entrepreneurship things.

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And it's hard to see that when you're just money grabbing,

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money grabbing.

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Speaker 4: With Kansas State and Iowa State back out of the

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Bowl games and they both said, well, our teams voted

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and they didn't want to play in it. I told you,

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I told my counterpart of Kansas State. I said, hey,

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walk in your athletic director's office and say, hey, yeah,

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if if this basketball team doesn't play any better, I'm

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not going to the Big twelve tournament call the game.

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See how that would go over? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, you know,

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but no that we're adults. We don't do that. And

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at some point we got to train up these kids

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who get to quote opt out to be adults.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's got to be some accountability that knows doubt it,

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no doubt about us.

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Speaker 3: Brian.

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Speaker 4: Uh, go walk into your boss and tell them, you

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know what, until this engineer gets this thing sounded better,

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I ain't doing it anymore.

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Speaker 3: I know. That's gonna go over very well.

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Speaker 2: Great, Brian, we're gonna we're up against the break. But

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real quick, give me a little preview of this game,

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what b YU fans can expect from this TCU team,

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and give me a h maybe a kind of a

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prediction how this game plays out.

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Speaker 4: Sure, I think TCU has obviously got to be good

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defensively because b YU is gonna make shots. You gonna

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make shots at home. I think tc won't be afraid

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to run with the by U, So I think we

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could have a fun game in store for us that way.

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If TCU gets in any found trouble, they're not real

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deep in a couple of spots, h So that that's

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that's gonna be really important for them. But it's gonna

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come down to can they weather the storm that that

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you know is gonna I'm here in provo. Can they

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handle the crowd in what that's like? So it's gonna

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be interesting, you know. I think if tc you can

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you know, if it's a close game at halftime, if

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those first four minutes of the second half they could

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survive that, I think we should have a phone down

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to the wire.

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Speaker 2: Follow Brian on x at Brian Estridge, ladies and gentlemen,

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and check out his call. Uh if you want to

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hear it from the other side. Where where can we

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can we catch that call?

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Speaker 3: Brian?

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Speaker 4: The best easiest way is just to do it on

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the Varsity app, so you cant go to the Varsity

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app download listen stream.

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Speaker 2: Nice Brian, Let's catch up again too. I loved this conversation.

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I know we didn't get as much into the hoopstock

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as I would have liked as you maybe you would

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have liked, but I love chatting about this stuff, the

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real the real issues in college athletics.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 4: Let's let's solve the world's problems right here.

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Speaker 3: Let's go Bee, let's go appreciate your brother. Thanks for

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hopping on. All right, that's our show.

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Speaker 2: We're sticking to a download the podcast, iTunes, Spreaker, Google

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Play Music. Iheartradios, Spotify, support, our sponsors. Can't do our

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show without our sponsors. From all of us here at

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ESPN the Fan, we wish you a good night, have

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a safe night. You've been listened it to Cougar Sports.

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Speaker 1: Anti Strikes, Rida.

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Speaker 2: Then let's get the latest news coming out of BYU Athletics.

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Speaker 4: With a Cougar Sports Press release.

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Speaker 1: This is Ronald the three man. We're bringing you the

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Cougar Sports Press League for today.

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Speaker 5: Richie Sanders was named the us BWA Oscar Robinson National

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Player of the Week on Tuesday afternoon after leading the

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eleventh three Cougars to a pair of wins last week.

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But the twenty twenty five to twenty six season, the

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USBWA continues as national Player of the Week program that

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has been affiliated with the Oscar Robertson Trophy since two

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thousand nine ten season. Prior to the twenty twenty four

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to twenty five season, the USWBA had recognized just one

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player a week. Each Tuesday during the regular season, the

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board members will select five standouts from the thirty one

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Division one conference players of the Week to be recognized.

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This week's selections were chosen from a list of conference

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that named a player of the week on Monday. Fresh

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off of career high thirty one points against Arizona State,

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Saunders recorded his second double double of the season and

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third of his career, finishing with twenty four point cent

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fourteen rebounds, six of those coming on the offensive glass.

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The senior average twenty seven point five points and eleven

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rebounds in the wins over Arizona stead in Utah while

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shooting sixty five point five percent from the field and

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fifty three point three percent from the three and seventy

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five percent from the three point line. After going two

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to seven and from three point range on Saturday, Ritchie

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Sanders has made multiple three pointers in a career best

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seven game stretch. During that stretch, the senior guard is

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shooting forty four point nine percent from three point range,

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including four games for three or more triples.

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Speaker 1: The Cougars that won twenty straight games.

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Speaker 5: A llegiate halftime after holding on to defeat Utah on

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Saturday evening. They also won their sixty eighth three game

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when leading with five minutes left in regulation.

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Speaker 3: Number eleven.

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Speaker 5: BOYU returns in action tonight to defend its twelve game

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win streak against the TCU Horn Froggs at the Marriott Center.

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Tip Off the schedule for nine pm, Mountains Center Time,

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and the game will be on ESPN two.

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Speaker 1: For more Cougar Sports press releases, Tune.

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Speaker 5: Into Cougar's Sports have been critical on one, O, three

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