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But I'm 29 00:01:41.319 --> 00:01:43.640 glad that you were able to come on the show 30 00:01:43.760 --> 00:01:47.799 and talk about your history with Sasquatch over the years, 31 00:01:47.840 --> 00:01:50.840 and I'd love to actually start with that. What was 32 00:01:50.879 --> 00:01:54.959 it that first got you involved in this wild community 33 00:01:55.000 --> 00:01:59.680 and being involved with such a high level individual such 34 00:01:59.680 --> 00:01:59.959 as time. 35 00:02:00.719 --> 00:02:02.599 It's not too complex of the story. 36 00:02:03.040 --> 00:02:06.359 I think I started off really getting into bigfoot listening 37 00:02:06.439 --> 00:02:09.039 to old school and radio coast to coasts. 38 00:02:09.159 --> 00:02:12.919 I know a lot of people may have not started. 39 00:02:12.560 --> 00:02:17.360 That way, So I always really enjoyed listening to bigfoot stuff. 40 00:02:18.000 --> 00:02:22.039 Didn't really get too much into the documentaries or finding 41 00:02:22.039 --> 00:02:24.599 Bigfoot when I was a little bit younger, just because 42 00:02:24.680 --> 00:02:28.680 it didn't really seem to ever produce anything. So I 43 00:02:28.759 --> 00:02:31.879 always just loved listening to people's accounts of Bigfoot or 44 00:02:32.000 --> 00:02:34.599 researchers that are getting into the science. 45 00:02:34.800 --> 00:02:38.719 So this side passion of mine for probably the last 46 00:02:38.719 --> 00:02:39.400 ten years. 47 00:02:39.560 --> 00:02:43.120 And then yeah, after that, like I said, this is 48 00:02:43.159 --> 00:02:45.479 before I even started listening to podcasts. I think it 49 00:02:45.520 --> 00:02:49.639 was about twenty nineteen. I got late into the podcast 50 00:02:49.719 --> 00:02:52.680 world just I don't know why. I just always listened 51 00:02:52.680 --> 00:02:54.879 to the Coast when I had a second to do 52 00:02:54.960 --> 00:02:59.000 something and I heard so I'm standing on there he 53 00:02:59.120 --> 00:03:01.520 was talking to at the time, I think it was 54 00:03:01.639 --> 00:03:06.120 George Knapp, and he was given some detailed accounts and 55 00:03:07.919 --> 00:03:11.719 from an outsider's look, kind of fantastical stories and ended 56 00:03:11.719 --> 00:03:14.159 it with a call of the if you don't believe me, 57 00:03:14.199 --> 00:03:16.080 I'll take you out and show you the thing. And 58 00:03:16.120 --> 00:03:20.639 I've never really heard anyone give that, you know, call 59 00:03:20.759 --> 00:03:22.560 to action. And I was like, who is this guy? 60 00:03:22.560 --> 00:03:25.560 I don't understand what. I've never heard of him, I've 61 00:03:25.599 --> 00:03:30.159 never heard of his documentary. And I've got three kids. 62 00:03:30.159 --> 00:03:31.199 I don't have a lot of time. 63 00:03:31.039 --> 00:03:32.240 To watch a lot of TV. 64 00:03:32.479 --> 00:03:35.360 So I found a documentary watched it twice, and I 65 00:03:35.400 --> 00:03:39.199 was like, this is you know, if it's legitimate, it's amazing. 66 00:03:39.199 --> 00:03:42.039 I don't how come nobody's really talking about this? And 67 00:03:42.800 --> 00:03:45.000 I think a lot of people were it's just behind 68 00:03:45.000 --> 00:03:47.560 the ball a little bit, and a lot of people 69 00:03:47.639 --> 00:03:52.639 were dismissive and apprehensive and all the above. But I 70 00:03:52.680 --> 00:03:55.039 know after getting a note Todd, he's been around the 71 00:03:55.039 --> 00:03:56.400 Bigfoot world for a really. 72 00:03:56.199 --> 00:03:58.840 Long time, So just behind eight balls on my side. 73 00:03:58.879 --> 00:04:00.319 So I was like, if I'm going to go out 74 00:04:00.319 --> 00:04:03.199 and really get into this subject, I want to go 75 00:04:03.199 --> 00:04:05.840 out with someone that claims they had activity. 76 00:04:05.879 --> 00:04:06.680 I want someone. 77 00:04:06.479 --> 00:04:09.199 That's as much as an expert as they can be. 78 00:04:09.960 --> 00:04:14.599 Decided to reach out to him, and it took months 79 00:04:14.639 --> 00:04:17.319 to get like a follow up because he's a busy guy, 80 00:04:17.439 --> 00:04:20.399 And he finally got back to me and we chatted 81 00:04:20.439 --> 00:04:23.680 and the discovery of Bigfoot kind of started from there. 82 00:04:23.839 --> 00:04:27.759 Fascinating. I'm just curious being a Coast to coast fan 83 00:04:28.000 --> 00:04:31.560 and I don't get to talk to too many of those. 84 00:04:31.720 --> 00:04:35.079 Usually people will bring up something else, like in Search 85 00:04:35.120 --> 00:04:38.519 of or Monster Quest or something like that. But did 86 00:04:38.560 --> 00:04:42.759 you have a favorite episode from all those years of 87 00:04:42.879 --> 00:04:44.360 listening to the program? 88 00:04:44.759 --> 00:04:46.120 I just I don't know if I can think of 89 00:04:46.160 --> 00:04:46.800 a favorite. 90 00:04:46.800 --> 00:04:49.879 I feel like I heard the guy from those the 91 00:04:49.920 --> 00:04:52.600 other Bigfoot podcasts on their West. I feel like I 92 00:04:52.720 --> 00:04:55.839 heard him on Coast to Coast because his story when 93 00:04:55.839 --> 00:04:59.000 I later heard in the like in the five Years 94 00:04:59.000 --> 00:05:00.600 Down the Road, I felt. 95 00:05:00.279 --> 00:05:02.199 Like he came on Coast to Coast and told that. 96 00:05:02.120 --> 00:05:06.600 Story already, So that one kind of rings a bell 97 00:05:06.639 --> 00:05:08.199 off the top of my head. But I don't know, 98 00:05:08.240 --> 00:05:12.480 I just always enjoyed listening to it. There wasn't any anyone. 99 00:05:12.120 --> 00:05:14.040 That really stood out, but I always found it like. 100 00:05:14.079 --> 00:05:19.000 So fascinating how it could be this people in the 101 00:05:19.040 --> 00:05:23.399 woods that we haven't really truly discovered, at least in 102 00:05:23.439 --> 00:05:24.240 this day and age. 103 00:05:24.240 --> 00:05:30.759 We haven't absolutely, you know. I listened to a few episodes. 104 00:05:30.800 --> 00:05:34.800 My favorite Bigfoot episode on that show is definitely Bugs 105 00:05:35.279 --> 00:05:40.399 the Texas Hunter and Robert W. Morgan and he had 106 00:05:40.439 --> 00:05:45.480 the buried bodies down there, and allegedly Art had the 107 00:05:45.800 --> 00:05:48.319 map how to find them, but he lost the map 108 00:05:48.600 --> 00:05:51.480 in a move of his studio or home. So it's 109 00:05:51.480 --> 00:05:55.600 a wild interview. But listeners haven't found that before. You 110 00:05:55.639 --> 00:06:00.480 can find it on YouTube, I think. But so you 111 00:06:01.040 --> 00:06:05.040 get introduced to Todd through Coast to Coast, which is 112 00:06:05.040 --> 00:06:09.839 really cool, and then you say, hey, let's go for it. 113 00:06:09.879 --> 00:06:14.040 Takes a few months and then you get up there 114 00:06:14.240 --> 00:06:15.639 in Todd's area. 115 00:06:15.920 --> 00:06:20.040 Yeah. So our first time out kind of expraditialized was 116 00:06:20.079 --> 00:06:24.839 taught with Todd was September of twenty twenty one, so 117 00:06:24.959 --> 00:06:27.079 I was out there for seven days with him with 118 00:06:27.199 --> 00:06:30.920 another there's me Todd in another Canadian from them called 119 00:06:30.959 --> 00:06:34.519 Red Deer, And yeah, that was my first I talked 120 00:06:34.519 --> 00:06:36.720 to Todd on the phone because he likes to vet 121 00:06:36.800 --> 00:06:40.000 people because he wants people that are really into the 122 00:06:40.040 --> 00:06:42.399 subject and not just the wrong tap of people that 123 00:06:42.439 --> 00:06:43.120 are there not. 124 00:06:43.040 --> 00:06:45.759 To have an experience. I'll just put it that way. 125 00:06:46.680 --> 00:06:49.040 So he looks for the right mentality in the sense 126 00:06:49.079 --> 00:06:50.959 and kind of weeds out some of the people that 127 00:06:51.040 --> 00:06:54.560 aren't really real or because there is an expense to it, 128 00:06:54.720 --> 00:06:56.759 and that's where he makes some of his living is 129 00:06:56.800 --> 00:06:59.079 taking people out and trying to show him you can 130 00:06:59.120 --> 00:07:02.839 imagine week away from their family. It's not it's time, 131 00:07:02.920 --> 00:07:06.439 it's money and energy. So he wants the right type 132 00:07:06.439 --> 00:07:07.560 of person out there with him. 133 00:07:07.600 --> 00:07:10.040 Yeah. Back in September twenty one, I went. 134 00:07:09.959 --> 00:07:13.519 Out there and I had i'd say the first time 135 00:07:14.680 --> 00:07:18.399 three to four different experiences out there the very first 136 00:07:18.399 --> 00:07:22.000 go round, which were from my standpoint, I was amazed 137 00:07:22.040 --> 00:07:24.160 by it because I didn't really know what to expect. 138 00:07:24.639 --> 00:07:28.360 I'd gone through his footage and tried to do the 139 00:07:28.439 --> 00:07:31.519 human thing of debunking and trying to find as much 140 00:07:31.560 --> 00:07:35.519 stuff on Google that I could, and you know, all 141 00:07:35.519 --> 00:07:36.399 I could find. 142 00:07:36.160 --> 00:07:37.360 Really was a lot of. 143 00:07:38.839 --> 00:07:42.560 Conjecture and there wasn't a lot of real Okay, how 144 00:07:42.560 --> 00:07:43.800 did he actually. 145 00:07:43.720 --> 00:07:46.759 Get this footage? There was a lot of weird. 146 00:07:48.199 --> 00:07:52.600 Accusations of like robotics and these muppets, and I was 147 00:07:53.279 --> 00:07:55.600 more or less, you know, I don't really see that like, 148 00:07:56.439 --> 00:07:58.639 so I wanted to get to know thought as a person. 149 00:07:59.000 --> 00:08:00.079 And then I also learned. 150 00:07:59.879 --> 00:08:01.879 To see what evidence he had and go out into 151 00:08:01.879 --> 00:08:04.319 the woods with him and have, you know, be open 152 00:08:04.399 --> 00:08:08.240 minded and have an experience. And if anything, it's in 153 00:08:08.279 --> 00:08:11.079 the British Clubia Canada, So that was the beautiful area. 154 00:08:11.279 --> 00:08:14.079 You know. To me, getting down the woods is I 155 00:08:14.199 --> 00:08:15.680 like to get out all of the fresh air. I 156 00:08:15.720 --> 00:08:16.839 love the country. 157 00:08:16.920 --> 00:08:20.240 So even if it was going to produce nothing, I 158 00:08:20.319 --> 00:08:22.399 was going to be happy with it from my standpoint. 159 00:08:22.600 --> 00:08:25.959 But produce something, and it keeps producing things for me, 160 00:08:26.120 --> 00:08:27.639 I'd say it was a second day there. 161 00:08:28.160 --> 00:08:29.120 We didn't get there till. 162 00:08:29.040 --> 00:08:32.000 About nine o'clock at night and it was dark outside, 163 00:08:32.159 --> 00:08:35.080 and I didn't Again, I didn't know what to expect. 164 00:08:35.120 --> 00:08:38.159 It's a good four hours out into the mountains. 165 00:08:38.279 --> 00:08:39.639 It's really is remote there. 166 00:08:39.679 --> 00:08:42.919 There's no there's no cellphone coverage, there's no power, there's 167 00:08:42.919 --> 00:08:46.320 no anything. It's basically in a mountain range, in the 168 00:08:46.360 --> 00:08:50.200 space in between radium and if you want to give 169 00:08:50.240 --> 00:08:53.799 it like a map view between radium hot springs and 170 00:08:53.919 --> 00:08:56.519 like damp and there's a river that goes down the 171 00:08:56.519 --> 00:08:58.360 middle there and if you get a pine nuff you 172 00:08:58.399 --> 00:09:03.320 can see both mountain ranges. So you know. That next 173 00:09:03.399 --> 00:09:05.840 day we were out and he was showing it basically 174 00:09:05.919 --> 00:09:09.360 started with footprints, Like I can't remember the exact timeframe, 175 00:09:09.399 --> 00:09:12.919 but these bigfoot had left where there's like this hill 176 00:09:13.039 --> 00:09:17.679 probably seventy five to one hundred yards away from his 177 00:09:17.799 --> 00:09:22.519 main base camp, and they had left He's yeah, I 178 00:09:22.519 --> 00:09:25.120 can't remember the exact link, but they were anywhere from 179 00:09:25.919 --> 00:09:28.399 probably sixteen inches eighteen inches. 180 00:09:28.080 --> 00:09:30.440 Long footprints that were going up the. 181 00:09:32.679 --> 00:09:37.039 Basically it's a bounce back moss going up this hill. 182 00:09:38.000 --> 00:09:41.679 So eventually those footprints went away, but they were pretty 183 00:09:41.679 --> 00:09:43.519 interesting to look at. From the first time or that 184 00:09:43.559 --> 00:09:45.960 had never been and actually seen a big foot footprint. 185 00:09:46.000 --> 00:09:49.799 That was pretty convincing. So they led him up this hill. 186 00:09:50.360 --> 00:09:52.120 Like I said, I can't remember the exact time frame, 187 00:09:52.279 --> 00:09:55.120 six months to a year and somewhere in there. 188 00:09:55.919 --> 00:09:57.000 So he had started. 189 00:09:56.720 --> 00:09:59.879 To put in his gifting apples up on this kind 190 00:09:59.879 --> 00:10:04.879 of this elevated hill and would climb this tree, put 191 00:10:04.919 --> 00:10:09.039 them about anywhere from twelve to fifteen feet there, anywhere 192 00:10:09.080 --> 00:10:12.039 from four apples to fifteen. 193 00:10:11.600 --> 00:10:12.480 Apples at a time. 194 00:10:12.559 --> 00:10:15.879 Right, So he was showing in Cesaria, and I got 195 00:10:15.919 --> 00:10:19.600 on his shoulders and talked about six foot three and 196 00:10:19.799 --> 00:10:22.840 he's a strong guy who he prides himself and trying 197 00:10:22.879 --> 00:10:25.159 to be fit. So I got on his shoulders and 198 00:10:25.600 --> 00:10:28.240 put all these apples up, and he was just showing 199 00:10:28.320 --> 00:10:31.000 the lay of the land, and he said, well, I 200 00:10:31.440 --> 00:10:33.279 usually will make a call when. 201 00:10:33.159 --> 00:10:35.480 I put the apple gifting out, and I have. 202 00:10:35.679 --> 00:10:38.240 He was going through his theories about these calls, and 203 00:10:38.360 --> 00:10:40.679 he was saying he didn't really think they're. 204 00:10:40.200 --> 00:10:42.000 Like wood knocks. 205 00:10:42.039 --> 00:10:44.559 He thought they were more of a rock knock because 206 00:10:44.559 --> 00:10:46.840 he just didn't see how you could produce such a 207 00:10:46.919 --> 00:10:49.840 large sound with wood on wood and some of his 208 00:10:49.919 --> 00:10:53.799 stuff has remained true, and some of his opinions have changed. 209 00:10:54.000 --> 00:10:57.600 It could be a rock knock from his opinion now, 210 00:10:57.679 --> 00:10:59.840 or it could be them making the sound of their 211 00:10:59.840 --> 00:11:02.919 mind like a large click with their tongue. Or I 212 00:11:02.960 --> 00:11:05.440 wouldn't really know how they did it. But that's a 213 00:11:05.480 --> 00:11:08.240 secondary stance that I think he takes now. But so 214 00:11:08.279 --> 00:11:10.960 he basically he asked Craig, the guy I was with, 215 00:11:11.159 --> 00:11:13.240 to pick up a rock and hit this gifting tree 216 00:11:13.240 --> 00:11:16.360 with it. And so he said, hit it as hard 217 00:11:16.360 --> 00:11:18.679 as you can. It's going to hurt your hand, it'll 218 00:11:18.720 --> 00:11:22.000 make a large sound, and we'll wait for a response. Right, 219 00:11:22.039 --> 00:11:24.000 So Craig picks up the rock about the side of 220 00:11:24.000 --> 00:11:27.120 his hand because it's the Rocky Mountain, so there's just 221 00:11:27.159 --> 00:11:30.159 some random rocks laying here and there, and he picked 222 00:11:30.159 --> 00:11:31.960 it up and hits it, and we're sitting there waiting 223 00:11:32.039 --> 00:11:35.879 for about thirty to forty seconds and we get this 224 00:11:36.039 --> 00:11:39.679 huge response back. And it's about eleven somewhere between eleven 225 00:11:39.720 --> 00:11:43.279 eleven thirty am in the morning mountain time. And we 226 00:11:43.399 --> 00:11:45.600 make a response and the response to get back is 227 00:11:45.639 --> 00:11:48.320 like four to five times louder. If I could have 228 00:11:48.360 --> 00:11:50.679 recorded it, I could have told you, it was just 229 00:11:50.919 --> 00:11:53.960 so booming, like I couldn't understand how something could make 230 00:11:54.000 --> 00:11:58.399 such a large sound, and I could tell directionally which 231 00:11:58.399 --> 00:12:03.039 way it came from. It was northwest of the main campsite, 232 00:12:03.120 --> 00:12:06.320 on the other side of his camping trailer, and it 233 00:12:06.440 --> 00:12:10.720 was just like, what, seriously, we're already getting interactions here. 234 00:12:10.879 --> 00:12:13.360 That was amazing with it, To be honest, posts. 235 00:12:13.120 --> 00:12:16.799 That we did go and try to, like whenever we 236 00:12:16.879 --> 00:12:19.320 hear sounds, and whenever he hears sounds, he tried to 237 00:12:19.320 --> 00:12:21.720 look for evidence of that sound. We waited a little 238 00:12:21.720 --> 00:12:23.399 bit because we wanted to give him space. So we 239 00:12:23.440 --> 00:12:26.799 did end up going and finding tracks that were going 240 00:12:26.840 --> 00:12:29.840 up the other side of this other ridge where that 241 00:12:29.879 --> 00:12:30.799 sound came from. 242 00:12:31.039 --> 00:12:33.840 And then there was a rock that was dislodged from 243 00:12:33.879 --> 00:12:36.279 this kind of ridge. I don't know that's what. 244 00:12:36.360 --> 00:12:38.639 Made it sound, but you could clearly see like a 245 00:12:38.720 --> 00:12:41.039 rock that was taken on the ground and placed about 246 00:12:41.039 --> 00:12:44.360 fifteen feet higher, and it looked you can tell learning 247 00:12:44.360 --> 00:12:47.240 out in the woods that what looks fresh and what doesn't. 248 00:12:47.440 --> 00:12:50.080 It looked fairly recent, so it was pretty impressive to 249 00:12:50.120 --> 00:12:50.440 find that. 250 00:12:50.600 --> 00:12:51.399 I think we did a. 251 00:12:52.879 --> 00:12:55.679 Video reenactment on his channels for it and this would 252 00:12:55.679 --> 00:12:56.200 have been like a. 253 00:12:58.240 --> 00:12:58.440 One. 254 00:12:58.559 --> 00:13:02.320 But yeah, that was like the first moment I was like, 255 00:13:02.399 --> 00:13:06.039 maybe maybe this is all legitimate. I didn't really know 256 00:13:06.120 --> 00:13:08.720 Todd that well, but he was. All the stuff you 257 00:13:08.720 --> 00:13:12.840 had shown me was really impressing me. And if you 258 00:13:13.000 --> 00:13:14.720 just have to go out there that there's not people 259 00:13:14.759 --> 00:13:17.240 running out in the woods making sounds there, it's just 260 00:13:17.360 --> 00:13:21.440 so remote and it's not feasible. It's like one hundred 261 00:13:21.440 --> 00:13:24.320 percent not feasible for him to have anyone out there. 262 00:13:25.240 --> 00:13:28.600 So that's what started it going there. But it was 263 00:13:28.600 --> 00:13:31.000 pretty memorable having that first experience. 264 00:13:32.480 --> 00:13:35.480 Yeah, that is quite a way to start out, and 265 00:13:35.519 --> 00:13:39.559 from what I've heard it is it's pretty hard to 266 00:13:39.639 --> 00:13:42.559 get to that area, Like it takes a pretty extended 267 00:13:43.000 --> 00:13:45.840 period of time to get just to the research area. 268 00:13:47.159 --> 00:13:48.360 Yeah, it takes about somewhere. 269 00:13:48.360 --> 00:13:51.240 It'sween three and a half four hours from what you 270 00:13:51.279 --> 00:13:56.799 fly into, which is Calgary, Alberta. So it's still a 271 00:13:56.879 --> 00:14:00.679 distance to travel there and actually get there, and it's 272 00:14:00.720 --> 00:14:02.399 pretty much way that country. 273 00:14:02.600 --> 00:14:08.200 There's nobody there, gotcha probably going out on the equivalent 274 00:14:08.240 --> 00:14:11.120 of forest service roads at the end stuff like that. 275 00:14:12.320 --> 00:14:15.879 Yeah, there's an old for service road there's some old 276 00:14:16.000 --> 00:14:19.840 forestry trails that we take back there that haven't been 277 00:14:20.120 --> 00:14:24.080 really logged in probably eighty years, so you can still 278 00:14:24.120 --> 00:14:26.559 see some of the trails they made, but you can 279 00:14:26.600 --> 00:14:30.600 tell that they haven't been there for seventy five eighty years. 280 00:14:30.600 --> 00:14:33.080 They're real old, and it's right on the cut line 281 00:14:33.120 --> 00:14:36.440 of a national forest out there, so you can tell 282 00:14:36.440 --> 00:14:38.879 where the old growth force starts in the new growth 283 00:14:38.919 --> 00:14:41.840 where they cut eighty years ago starts, because it just 284 00:14:41.960 --> 00:14:45.960 looks completely different when you pass that imaginary line. 285 00:14:49.240 --> 00:14:53.200 You mentioned gifting that apples, and those have been seen 286 00:14:53.440 --> 00:14:58.039 in the documentary as well. Has he ever used anything 287 00:14:58.440 --> 00:15:01.320 belt besides apples in a gifting situation. 288 00:15:01.559 --> 00:15:06.159 I think he's tried other types of fruit, and I 289 00:15:06.200 --> 00:15:08.759 think one of the extraditioners actually brought like a watermelon 290 00:15:08.799 --> 00:15:12.519 out there at one point like that, I just put 291 00:15:12.559 --> 00:15:15.279 it out there on a stump. The problem with it 292 00:15:15.360 --> 00:15:19.159 is that's a very country, So anything you put out 293 00:15:19.159 --> 00:15:23.879 there that can go bad or has a potential for 294 00:15:23.919 --> 00:15:27.440 a bear to get it or search it out big. 295 00:15:27.320 --> 00:15:30.360 For society who will be right back after these messages. 296 00:15:45.840 --> 00:15:49.000 It's kind of it's a little dangerous, a little irresponsible. 297 00:15:49.039 --> 00:15:51.759 So he really likes apples just because they stayed good 298 00:15:51.840 --> 00:15:54.879 for a long time out there, and he hasn't really 299 00:15:54.879 --> 00:15:56.919 had a lot of success in talking with him with 300 00:15:57.000 --> 00:16:01.200 other types of fruit. I think put out power bars 301 00:16:01.240 --> 00:16:05.159 with survigger Man. I think that was moregra Man's doing 302 00:16:05.240 --> 00:16:08.840 than his. But I think his gift to choice is 303 00:16:08.879 --> 00:16:12.200 apple's just because of the how long they say them. 304 00:16:12.639 --> 00:16:17.200 It's easy to go out and replace them. If a 305 00:16:17.200 --> 00:16:19.960 burder squirrel gets to them, just pull them down sticking 306 00:16:20.080 --> 00:16:20.440 them up. 307 00:16:21.440 --> 00:16:24.879 Sure you mentioned that there are also bears in the area. 308 00:16:25.000 --> 00:16:28.159 What other predators do you guys have to be aware 309 00:16:28.200 --> 00:16:31.720 of while you're out in this remote area in addition 310 00:16:32.000 --> 00:16:34.919 potentially to Bigfoot, it's. 311 00:16:34.639 --> 00:16:39.200 Brown bears, black bears, mountain lions, wolves, those are the 312 00:16:39.240 --> 00:16:39.879 main ones. 313 00:16:41.279 --> 00:16:41.600 Really. 314 00:16:41.639 --> 00:16:45.240 It's the bears and the mountain lions that are the 315 00:16:45.279 --> 00:16:48.279 ones that we're more wary of, as most of the 316 00:16:48.279 --> 00:16:51.519 bears out there very much while like they don't see 317 00:16:51.519 --> 00:16:53.759 a lot of humans, those are the ones that are 318 00:16:54.480 --> 00:16:56.879 We try to stay away. 319 00:16:56.679 --> 00:16:58.799 And make not a lot of scent. 320 00:16:59.039 --> 00:17:02.960 And the way he cooks meals is very smart as 321 00:17:02.960 --> 00:17:06.039 far as everything is cre made and you burned it 322 00:17:06.079 --> 00:17:06.759 all on the fire. 323 00:17:07.079 --> 00:17:08.240 He's very cognizant of. 324 00:17:08.200 --> 00:17:11.119 Being safe and having people safe out there, because he's 325 00:17:11.160 --> 00:17:13.839 been through a couple of different bears that have come 326 00:17:13.920 --> 00:17:16.880 up on him and tad to take care of himself, 327 00:17:16.960 --> 00:17:20.000 so he he's very cognizant of that. And there are 328 00:17:20.039 --> 00:17:22.839 just map mions out there. The wolves are a little 329 00:17:22.880 --> 00:17:26.039 less dangerous just because most wolves won't they're not really 330 00:17:26.279 --> 00:17:28.599 interested in humans unless you try to feed them, and 331 00:17:28.680 --> 00:17:30.640 though that's not a good idea because then they will 332 00:17:30.720 --> 00:17:36.839 kill you. So he's a bit of a wilderness expert tracker. 333 00:17:37.599 --> 00:17:39.839 He's been out there and done it all for the 334 00:17:39.920 --> 00:17:42.559 last twenty years and he's really integrated into a bunch 335 00:17:42.599 --> 00:17:46.279 of different Indian tribes that he's worked with, and like 336 00:17:46.519 --> 00:17:49.720 his mentor was an Indian elder that taught him a 337 00:17:49.720 --> 00:17:52.839 whole lot of stuff about a whole lot of different things. 338 00:17:52.880 --> 00:17:54.920 So he takes a lot of that knowledge base and 339 00:17:55.400 --> 00:17:57.559 tries to teach some of it. And he's real into 340 00:17:57.720 --> 00:18:00.400 ecology and the plants and the things that grow there 341 00:18:00.440 --> 00:18:02.880 and what the bears would eat and where they'd go, 342 00:18:03.119 --> 00:18:05.680 and you know, it's all about basically just how the 343 00:18:05.720 --> 00:18:09.559 animals move out there the seasons, and he uses that 344 00:18:09.640 --> 00:18:12.720 in the aspect of the sense of bigfoot as well, 345 00:18:13.200 --> 00:18:15.680 what they would eat, what they would track, what they 346 00:18:15.759 --> 00:18:18.519 would consume, like, what kind of prey they would do. 347 00:18:18.640 --> 00:18:22.240 As far as honestly not being from. 348 00:18:22.160 --> 00:18:25.519 The area, it's really informative and good to learn about 349 00:18:25.559 --> 00:18:28.119 a bunch of that stuff, just because you don't really 350 00:18:28.160 --> 00:18:32.680 think through that all when you're arn't chair quarterback and bigfoot, right, 351 00:18:33.640 --> 00:18:35.680 So he cuts a lot of effort into it. 352 00:18:36.640 --> 00:18:40.039 Absolutely, there's a question that just came to mind. You 353 00:18:40.079 --> 00:18:44.960 have those shots in Todd's documentary that everyone thinks about, 354 00:18:45.039 --> 00:18:48.319 the shots where you see the face of the Sasquatch 355 00:18:48.640 --> 00:18:52.680 a few times, right, And I myself have had an 356 00:18:52.759 --> 00:18:57.599 interview where gentlemen from Oregon, from the Lamit National Forest 357 00:18:57.680 --> 00:19:01.960 area actually he described what he saw as being a 358 00:19:02.039 --> 00:19:06.480 face that looked very similar to one of those faces 359 00:19:06.480 --> 00:19:10.960 that Todd had in his documentary. Is that Do you 360 00:19:11.000 --> 00:19:14.119 guys ever get contacts as well from people that have 361 00:19:14.200 --> 00:19:17.680 watched your documentary saying I've also seen something that looks 362 00:19:17.680 --> 00:19:20.599 similar to that or is it kind of few and 363 00:19:20.640 --> 00:19:21.240 far between. 364 00:19:22.119 --> 00:19:24.279 I'm just now getting people reach out to me just 365 00:19:24.319 --> 00:19:25.960 because I'm getting more involved. 366 00:19:25.960 --> 00:19:27.359 But Todd definitely. 367 00:19:27.119 --> 00:19:29.680 Has had people reach out to him and say they've 368 00:19:30.000 --> 00:19:35.920 actually seen some of those bigfoot, or they've seen similar 369 00:19:35.960 --> 00:19:38.960 ones that look very similar as far as facial features. 370 00:19:39.759 --> 00:19:41.759 There's a couple of people that reached out to him. 371 00:19:41.839 --> 00:19:44.160 I've actually seen some of the big foot that he's 372 00:19:44.200 --> 00:19:48.400 had in this documentary and like gave descriptions that unless 373 00:19:48.480 --> 00:19:52.480 you have seen this bigfoot, that you wouldn't know otherwise. 374 00:19:52.640 --> 00:19:55.960 Or he's gone into some details about scarring and some 375 00:19:56.119 --> 00:19:59.319 other scars that some of these bigfoot have on them. 376 00:19:59.400 --> 00:20:02.799 And when people call him and say, hey, I think 377 00:20:02.839 --> 00:20:03.400 I saw. 378 00:20:03.400 --> 00:20:06.000 Your big foot, did it have this on its body? 379 00:20:06.079 --> 00:20:09.400 And that's post validation for him that they probably did 380 00:20:09.400 --> 00:20:12.279 see the same one that he did. So he has 381 00:20:12.319 --> 00:20:15.000 stories like that, and I have no reason not to 382 00:20:15.079 --> 00:20:18.359 believe him because to me, time hasn't been nothing but authentic. 383 00:20:18.440 --> 00:20:20.839 And I've spent about, I think un total, about thirty 384 00:20:20.880 --> 00:20:23.039 five days out with him in the woods, so I've 385 00:20:23.039 --> 00:20:26.680 gotten to know him and his family and how he operates, 386 00:20:26.799 --> 00:20:33.519 and how his belief system and in his integrity and honestly, and. 387 00:20:33.759 --> 00:20:36.880 I would recommend anyone go out with him just so 388 00:20:37.079 --> 00:20:37.559 you can. 389 00:20:37.480 --> 00:20:40.440 Prove it to yourself that he didn't hoax that footage, 390 00:20:40.480 --> 00:20:44.920 because from my perspective, there is absolutely no way he could. 391 00:20:44.960 --> 00:20:47.440 He just doesn't have the skill sets, he doesn't have 392 00:20:47.480 --> 00:20:51.799 the will, and he's too and he really does have a. 393 00:20:51.720 --> 00:20:54.000 Lot of integrity when it comes to this. There's just 394 00:20:54.039 --> 00:20:56.279 no way he can he could have faked any of 395 00:20:56.279 --> 00:20:57.000 that footage. 396 00:20:57.160 --> 00:21:00.359 When you really start digging finding out his life and 397 00:21:00.400 --> 00:21:01.680 what his background is. 398 00:21:01.599 --> 00:21:04.079 And how much effort it would be to. 399 00:21:04.039 --> 00:21:07.599 Hook something like that, it's just not his willhouse to do. 400 00:21:07.839 --> 00:21:10.440 And that's just my opinion my own investigation. I'm not 401 00:21:10.480 --> 00:21:12.519