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<v Speaker 1>Hey, everybody, welcome to Pink Shade. It's mugshot Monday. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>here with Keisha. Were winding it down Kishaw on sixty

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<v Speaker 1>Days in season four.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna miss this show.

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<v Speaker 1>I know. Really listen, if we ever get in a

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<v Speaker 1>lull again, like in this summer, if they take our

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<v Speaker 1>show off again and go into Mama June and we

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<v Speaker 1>don't have any other prison shows, then we'll come.

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<v Speaker 2>Back to it.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll take up. See what's the best season to watch.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like no other season is going to top

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<v Speaker 3>this season for us.

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<v Speaker 1>Other people have written and said, like you should watch

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<v Speaker 1>season seven or season da da da da. You know

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<v Speaker 1>it's really good, Okay, And like I said, I did

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<v Speaker 1>watch another season of it with Kimberly when maham Man

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<v Speaker 1>Ali's daughter was on there, not Leylah, not the famous who,

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<v Speaker 1>but a different one who was like studying to be

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<v Speaker 1>like a criminal lawyer or something, and there was something

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<v Speaker 1>on the news about like her dad that like came

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<v Speaker 1>on one of the TVs and maybe it was about

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<v Speaker 1>like the Olympics or something, and she was like, okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but they didn't know that was her dad and she

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<v Speaker 1>was undercover whatever, right, But I can't. It was so

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<v Speaker 1>long ago. I can't remember why I covered it. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't remember anything about it, but I do. Just look,

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<v Speaker 1>I was somewhat familiar with it because Kimberly had kind

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<v Speaker 1>of forced me into watching it, and then she sort

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<v Speaker 1>of forced us into this. But we're grateful because it's

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<v Speaker 1>good she did. Yeah she did.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Kimberly, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>She also this weekend on our when we did our

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<v Speaker 1>the Other Way episode this past Friday that came out,

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<v Speaker 1>she was like, I've already watched the you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>reunion was they called the Aftermath, and I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>need a detailed recap. I was like, okay, we'll do

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<v Speaker 1>our best.

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<v Speaker 3>My gosh, well, she has been like our number one fan.

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<v Speaker 2>She asked.

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<v Speaker 3>Kimberly a day with dayline. She's like, good job, girls,

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<v Speaker 3>Like I'm thoroughly enjoying this. The investigative recordy that you

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<v Speaker 3>guys have been doing on this, I mean she had

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<v Speaker 3>it is almost like we were being graded for these

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<v Speaker 3>recaps by yeah Kimberly.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, so yeah, I think we got According to Kimberly,

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<v Speaker 1>where star students.

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<v Speaker 2>The longest, we don't mess up this episode.

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<v Speaker 1>I now the pressure.

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<v Speaker 2>This is like the test. This is like the you

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<v Speaker 2>know what do they call it at the end of

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<v Speaker 2>the semester.

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<v Speaker 3>Test, the final example. Yes, let's not mess it up

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<v Speaker 3>because we will hear from her.

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<v Speaker 1>I will say, there's I have a complaint about this episode. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let's get those out of the way. I didn't like

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<v Speaker 1>the big box they had in the middle. I guess

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<v Speaker 1>it's supposed to be like if you're doing like a

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<v Speaker 1>reunion show, like coffee table, but it was like, so

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, why is this in a warehouse? Why is

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<v Speaker 1>that thing in the middle so big? It's like the

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<v Speaker 1>camera had to go over it to see them. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't like the set. What else didn't like? I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>like the way it flowed.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like it definitely could have been two hours

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<v Speaker 1>and we could have spent maybe six or seven extra

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<v Speaker 1>minutes on each person. Yes, I agree that questions I

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<v Speaker 1>have answers to that I still don't have answers to, like,

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<v Speaker 1>has Nate ever spoken to Desmond? Again?

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<v Speaker 2>Look, we all needed to know that answer, because.

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<v Speaker 1>How it's Desmond? How is Desmond?

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<v Speaker 3>It was such a big part of the show. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you really want to it was a feel

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<v Speaker 3>good part of this show was their relationship, their friendship,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, and nothing this Desmond still in cars?

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<v Speaker 1>Righted? Did he go back to school? Right?

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<v Speaker 2>See?

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<v Speaker 1>Mary does see our children? Are they still in contact?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, we got it was like it never happened.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I know, and I did confess that I

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<v Speaker 1>watched ahead and next next episode when they do the

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<v Speaker 1>six months later, we don't know that either. We still

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<v Speaker 1>don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess we'll have to get on the reddit to

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<v Speaker 3>find out about Nate and Desmond.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot I want to get on the reddit

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<v Speaker 1>and find out, and I will do that before episode

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen next week, because that'll be our final episode. And

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<v Speaker 1>we do know some things about Nate obviously, you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>If you know, then you know, and we will discuss

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<v Speaker 1>that at that time. But again, I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>I even want to discuss it. I know, we are

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<v Speaker 1>so upset that somebody DMed us and told us, because

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<v Speaker 1>we didn't know Kimberly. It wasn't who told us. Somebody

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<v Speaker 1>told us, and that we told Kimberly a listener and

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<v Speaker 1>a listener, she wasn't doing it maliciously, but we just

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know we just didn't want to know.

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<v Speaker 3>Like that blew us away, and like the whole entire

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<v Speaker 3>sea since seeing him, that is in.

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<v Speaker 2>The back of our mind. That's how it goes down

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<v Speaker 2>in the end.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's so much I would like to know about,

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<v Speaker 1>so many of them. But I'm waiting until I start

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<v Speaker 1>to write my notes for episode fourteen because I do

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<v Speaker 1>want to try to put together, like some slides of

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<v Speaker 1>like what they look like on the show, what they

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<v Speaker 1>look like, because lord do I have some comments. Okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Now when we start the show, we see them sitting

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<v Speaker 1>there and we start with we start with the black

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<v Speaker 1>screen of death that says this program was recorded before

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<v Speaker 1>the season aired, So if they didn't give them screeners,

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<v Speaker 1>then none of them have seen any of it. And

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like none of them have seen any of

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<v Speaker 1>it from some of their reactions to the other people

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<v Speaker 1>talking about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because when they were reacting that one did they

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<v Speaker 3>not see the show?

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<v Speaker 1>They must have not seen it. They must have not

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<v Speaker 1>seen it.

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<v Speaker 2>I did read that part at the beginning.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, right, you know, I love a black screen of death,

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<v Speaker 1>but I like, like we know on Housewives that they

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<v Speaker 1>film it, they film their RENI when there's about four

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<v Speaker 1>episodes left, and they show them the rest of the episodes. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>but like on nine to Day Fiance when they filmed

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<v Speaker 1>their reunions, most of the time they haven't seen any

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<v Speaker 1>of it. Okay, yeah, yeah, so so I'm assuming this

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<v Speaker 1>program was recorded before the season aired to they had

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<v Speaker 1>not seen any of it. Okay. Our host is Sila

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<v Speaker 1>Dad O'Brien, who used to be like on CBS Morning News.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean she's like an actual journalist.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like, how does she get this lower level gig?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, because Kimberly told me. Sometimes it's Dan

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<v Speaker 1>Abrams who's that. He's like another news guy, like an

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<v Speaker 1>actual news Yeah. Yeah, charity work or they're all in

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<v Speaker 1>the same network and they're just like you can pick

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<v Speaker 1>up an next you brand if you do this. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because you can tell she didn't want to be there.

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<v Speaker 1>I likes how hardcore she was. I wish we'd get

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<v Speaker 1>this a nice day fiance sometimes, you know. Okay, So

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<v Speaker 1>she introduces the participant. She interviews Colonel Adjert. Now before

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<v Speaker 1>we start, let's break down everybody's looks so we don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to and nausea and discussed it as we go Johnny.

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<v Speaker 1>He looks nice. He has on a button down shirt.

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<v Speaker 2>He looked like Johnny.

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<v Speaker 1>He looked the same. Ivanuel has on a suit. His

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<v Speaker 1>guy's here was nice. He looked very nice. He wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>obnoxious at all. I see this.

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<v Speaker 3>This, This is what makes me surprised that he hasn't

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<v Speaker 3>seen the episod episodes, because I was thinking he saw

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<v Speaker 3>how ridiculous he behaved on the show, and they said,

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<v Speaker 3>I am most definitely gonna give my cool car back,

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<v Speaker 3>like I'm gonna play it cool, I'm gonna look good,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna smell good. I'm not gonna be nerdilicious or

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<v Speaker 3>anything like that. So maybe this is his real true personality,

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<v Speaker 3>that he just was stuck in that mind frame of

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<v Speaker 3>I gotta be so hood, but he kept slipping out

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<v Speaker 3>of it.

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<v Speaker 1>He kept slipping into I'm gonna be but then I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be like the class clown an annoy and.

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<v Speaker 2>Then exceptionally proper.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, excuse me, officer, there's mucus in my cell. Matt

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<v Speaker 1>looks less greasy than normal.

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<v Speaker 3>And when we say less, like it is so greasy,

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<v Speaker 3>but less, it's like two percent less.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, he has on a button down. He really needs

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<v Speaker 1>an eye lift, like medically, he needs an eyelift. His

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<v Speaker 1>eyes are so far over his being that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys, you can get that your your doctor will

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<v Speaker 1>approve it, and the insurance will cover it. Okay, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Nate has on it has a terrible beard. Now he

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<v Speaker 1>has what I have referred to in the past. And

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<v Speaker 1>this is a joke between us because I refer to

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<v Speaker 1>it as the Sea Everett Coop, which is like the

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<v Speaker 1>able link in which you have the beard and then

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<v Speaker 1>no mustache.

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<v Speaker 2>I never would have thought about that again ever in life.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell me what I said?

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<v Speaker 1>Will you tell the people? Because I was calling it

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<v Speaker 1>the see Everett Coop, which see Ever Coop was the

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<v Speaker 1>surgeon General of the United States, like in the nineties,

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<v Speaker 1>and he had this beard but no mustache, which I

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<v Speaker 1>think is so weird looking. So that's what I called it.

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<v Speaker 1>And what did you say? I told you.

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<v Speaker 3>I just said that Mary Payn Gilbert must have taken

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<v Speaker 3>French in high school, because boy, can she speak French.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought you were speaking French. I had no idea

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<v Speaker 3>what you were talking about. Thought you said something in French.

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<v Speaker 3>And when I told that, that's the name of whoever

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<v Speaker 3>this fucking guy is that you mentioned.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh, see Everett Coop and you thought I

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<v Speaker 1>speaking in French. That's that will never not be the

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<v Speaker 1>fun man that was years ago, years ago. Anyway, Nate

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<v Speaker 1>has the siever coop and has on a jacket like

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<v Speaker 1>a blazer. Looks great. I think Nate's hot. I think

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<v Speaker 1>he's real cute. By the way, if anybody did watch

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<v Speaker 1>season three and they could tell us about that scarl

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<v Speaker 1>in his head, we'd like to know. I'd like to

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<v Speaker 1>know because because when they did the flashback to I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, oh, I forgot he had that scarl on

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<v Speaker 1>his head. Okay, but it went away during filming, so

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<v Speaker 1>obviously it was done while he was there. Maybe that's scary.

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<v Speaker 2>No, he probably tripped.

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<v Speaker 1>It was probably nothing, so okay. Alan has a has

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<v Speaker 1>a nice haircut, parted on the side his sweater. Andrew

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<v Speaker 1>I think looks great. He's had a glow up.

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<v Speaker 2>That's cute. Oh Andrew, Andrew, I was, yes, Andrew looks great.

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<v Speaker 1>Cute. Would you like to talk about Stephanie's look, because

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<v Speaker 1>here's the thing you've got to have. I hate a

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<v Speaker 1>septum piercing anyway, because I'm old, but you have to

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<v Speaker 1>have a certain kind to nose. I'm like Katie from

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<v Speaker 1>Vanderpump Rules had it before. It was cool, and she's

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<v Speaker 2>Well, stephe has the nose of a witch.

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<v Speaker 1>She has had a long pointed nose with nonstrals that

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And it also looked like she got those bracest

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<v Speaker 3>the day before this this show, because.

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<v Speaker 2>Her mouth was all swollen, lopsided. She was speaking horribly.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>It was weird because we saw how she looked when

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<v Speaker 3>she did the final interview with the Colonel. Yeah, like

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<v Speaker 3>she looked great. She did, and then she came to

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<v Speaker 1>She looks like she's sitting in the secretary pool like

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<v Speaker 1>she's a business lady going to do business things. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like she should have gotten someone for the

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<v Speaker 3>her hair looks bad.

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<v Speaker 1>I just there was a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Going on with Stephanie.

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<v Speaker 3>And not only does she have bracist s, sheh had

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<v Speaker 3>colorful braces.

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<v Speaker 2>They were like blue or green or I just don't

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't understand she already had pretty perfect teeth

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<v Speaker 1>because we see flashes of her in there and stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, I never noticed a thing about

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<v Speaker 1>her teeth. Well, that's right, because their teeth are just normal.

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<v Speaker 2>They maybe no one, Stephanie, they're fake. You know, you

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<v Speaker 2>could get fake braces.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's a jaw issue. Whatever. I will tell you.

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<v Speaker 1>When I watched six months ahead, she does still have

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<v Speaker 1>the braces, but they're not as noticeable because they're not

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<v Speaker 1>like they're like clear, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Because these were not clear. These were colored.

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<v Speaker 3>And I just feel as though, if you're not thirteen braces,

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<v Speaker 3>like they don't need to be pink or blue. You

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<v Speaker 3>need just clear clear ones. The regular silver ones are

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<v Speaker 3>the clear ones? Are its online?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes? I agree. I don't think she needed any of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe she had a jaw issue. I don't know, but anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>it was shocking because yeah, I would I was looking

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, her nose would be cute with

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<v Speaker 1>a little side hoop. Yeah, she's got a nose for that.

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<v Speaker 1>This thing in the middle was not flattering. Okay, and

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<v Speaker 1>those I gotta tell you something else, those great contacts

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<v Speaker 3>They you a blade, and if you're not the day

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<v Speaker 3>Walker who was Blade, she did not have great contacts, No,

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<v Speaker 3>not at all.

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<v Speaker 1>They freaked me out.

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<v Speaker 2>It's horrible.

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<v Speaker 1>And then when she doesn't look good, and then she's

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<v Speaker 1>getting mad and her eyes are getting big and she's

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<v Speaker 1>got that I was like, whoa, she's scary. Okay, Angela,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I think she's so cute. I thought she

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<v Speaker 1>looked really cute. Okay, That's how I feel about her.

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<v Speaker 1>Jacqueline looks trash exactly the same.

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<v Speaker 2>She looks trashy.

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<v Speaker 3>She's one of those people that no matter what you

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<v Speaker 3>do with her, she's going to look trashy. She just

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<v Speaker 3>got that trash you also, people just have that trashy

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<v Speaker 2>They just do.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and she has it. That's Keisha, a girl, not me.

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<v Speaker 3>Who was it that posted in the Facebook group? Was

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<v Speaker 3>it Lisape? Okay, let's the shock of all shocks. There's

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<v Speaker 3>a picture of Jacqueline in between Deonte from Love After lock.

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<v Speaker 1>Up and that other guy from Love after lock Up

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<v Speaker 1>that wore like the colored.

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<v Speaker 3>Suit, blue suit, the blue suit, and she did put his.

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<v Speaker 1>Name, Uh, I can't remember.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, how did these two worlds collide?

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<v Speaker 1>Like?

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<v Speaker 2>How where? How did this come about?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but it's interesting because she was on

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<v Speaker 1>Neckadin and Afraid and she's been on Doctor Phil and

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<v Speaker 1>they were like, oh no, she makes the rounds on

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<v Speaker 1>the reality shows. And I was like, Okay, I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, maybe she's trying to pay for law school.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe, but I mean, this was like a long time ago.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think she's an attorney. Still I don't either.

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<v Speaker 1>But again, all of this will be discussed when we

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<v Speaker 1>get to the next episode. It doesn't say on the

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<v Speaker 1>next episode. I'm just saying I'm going to do some

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<v Speaker 1>research on all these people. Okay. So Alan says he

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<v Speaker 1>never knew Nate was in the program, and Andrew says,

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<v Speaker 1>I was sure when I went in that Nate and

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<v Speaker 1>Allen were participants, but because Nate had been there so long,

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<v Speaker 1>it made me question it. Right, with him being there

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<v Speaker 1>so long, saved him twice.

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<v Speaker 3>He saved them then, it saved him then, and it

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<v Speaker 3>also saved him when he got called to go home.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, when everyone was like.

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<v Speaker 3>You're on sixty days in, it's yes, I'll get to

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<v Speaker 3>hear one hundred and twenty days.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, no, So Sola Dad says, Okay, Jacqueline, you

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<v Speaker 1>gave Stephanie a big high in a wave, so it

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<v Speaker 1>seems like you had a constitious relationship. And Jacqueline goes, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I love Stephanie and I don't care what happened. We

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<v Speaker 1>went through this together. You know. I've got a soft

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<v Speaker 1>spot for Stephanie. Now this changes later when she sees

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<v Speaker 1>some footage, it changes big time. I was kind of like,

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<v Speaker 1>what are you? Did you forget what she did to you?

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<v Speaker 3>Will you kind of put two and two together and

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<v Speaker 3>saw that she sabotaged you.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder though, and they don't tell us it's been

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<v Speaker 1>four months since they seen each other, you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>been four months since that final meeting or what. So

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<v Speaker 1>she says she has a soft spot for her, and

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<v Speaker 1>Stephanie says, yeah, we had an up and down relationship,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, And I wasn't sure how I was gonna

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<v Speaker 1>feel when I see Jacqueline, but it's normal. I'm happy

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<v Speaker 1>to see her, and they asked her. No, she wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>and asked Angela, and she goes, no love lost, no

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<v Speaker 1>love gained. I feel neutral to.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody, and I see a stomach this girl.

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<v Speaker 1>I was very upset with her this whole episode.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, girl, she she fooled us at a

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<v Speaker 3>very beginning with her attitude because that shit was not

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<v Speaker 3>real at all.

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<v Speaker 2>She's one of those.

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<v Speaker 3>People who can talk a big game and then it

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<v Speaker 3>just all comes crumbling down.

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<v Speaker 2>She's scary.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the dimples that get you. Yeah. Yeah, And they

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<v Speaker 1>ask her like, are you feeling nervous about all this?

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<v Speaker 1>She goes, no, why would I be feeling nervous? And

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, on the next episode, you're not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>like her even more. So we get so clips and

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<v Speaker 1>we see Angela fighting with that girl, which she was

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<v Speaker 1>like making fun of her accident, gonna I'm gonna beat

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<v Speaker 1>the shit out of you and all that, and she's

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<v Speaker 1>like smiling while she's watching it, like it's funny.

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<v Speaker 3>She because she's so crazy person, and she's scarier than Stephanie.

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<v Speaker 1>So Jacqueline, who hadn't seen that because she was gone right,

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<v Speaker 1>Jacqueline goes, I am shocked to see that she goes,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody liked Angel, like, I can't believe I'm seeing that

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<v Speaker 1>fighting clip. But you know, good for you stander ground,

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<v Speaker 1>But like.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, she wasn't standing her ground. The girl didn't push

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<v Speaker 3>her at all. She was the aggressor in that situation.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So still, the dad asked, Matt, you know, why

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<v Speaker 1>did you ask your son Andrew to go in? And

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<v Speaker 1>he goes, well, I never thought he would say yes,

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<v Speaker 1>And she says, okay, Matt, you found incarceration really hard.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's play some clips. Okay, we get these clips of

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<v Speaker 1>Lawrence and his lethal gas.

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<v Speaker 2>That was funny.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the pee and and the cup. Yes, the kung

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<v Speaker 1>fu fighting.

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<v Speaker 3>I knew they were gonna there's there's no way. You

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<v Speaker 3>know how much the producers laughed every time he would

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<v Speaker 3>do that ship.

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<v Speaker 1>They're like, oh, he's in the corner, get the camera,

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<v Speaker 1>get the camera in that corner. He's getting ready.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>The t bow drama, of which it was no drama.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's another thing I wish they would have kind

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<v Speaker 1>of gone more into that, like do you see now

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<v Speaker 1>that you were sort of you imagined all imagined a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of it. Yeah, and you know him saying, I

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<v Speaker 1>feel I'm a target and I'm gonna have to leave

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<v Speaker 1>to say my son.

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<v Speaker 3>You know all that you were only the target of

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<v Speaker 3>your own bladder. That was the only thing his gass.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So as he's watching it, he goes, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>cry in life, but now I'm tearing up watching that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, in there, they called me read, so I

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<v Speaker 1>nicknamed myself cry baby Read because I was crying all

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<v Speaker 1>the time. And he goes, and I tear up thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about how I had to leave my son in jail.

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<v Speaker 2>You did not.

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<v Speaker 3>He is acting like he took this newborn son and

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<v Speaker 3>left him in front of a fire station. That is

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<v Speaker 3>not what happened. You both were on a television show.

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<v Speaker 3>Give me a fucking bak, and let's just be honest here.

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<v Speaker 3>You hope that your son were scared straight. You hoped

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<v Speaker 3>that going to jail was going to beat the gay

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<v Speaker 3>out of him. That is what you really really thought.

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<v Speaker 3>And then you got made to look like a fool.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, all of that. Yes, he goes. At the end,

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<v Speaker 1>I felt I had so much inks. I felt I

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<v Speaker 1>was going to explode. And she goes, but Andrew was

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<v Speaker 1>doing just fine, So what's wrong with you?

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<v Speaker 3>Andrew could have done one hundred and twenty days.

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<v Speaker 1>I wish they would have asked him to read up.

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<v Speaker 1>He would have done it.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you know how many people would have left there

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<v Speaker 3>knowing how to read had Andrews stayed, because they would

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<v Speaker 3>have had classes, kicking classes on Wednesdays, you know, social

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<v Speaker 3>skills on this day.

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<v Speaker 2>He would have been great.

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<v Speaker 1>So Andrew goes, Yeah, that door that separated us caused

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<v Speaker 1>him a lot of stress. And so Matt goes, why

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<v Speaker 1>did you want Andrew to go in? He goes, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I was hoping that having Andrew exposed in the experience

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<v Speaker 1>would toughen him up and make it more of a man.

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<v Speaker 1>And Andrew goes, I didn't set out to prove anything

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<v Speaker 1>to my dad, like, actually, my way is better. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just not an aggressive person. And when I got home,

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<v Speaker 1>my dad said, you didn't necessarily need to change. And

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<v Speaker 1>he goes, but you know, here's the thing I did

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<v Speaker 1>survive in jail, and that gave me a huge confidence boost,

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<v Speaker 1>which is great. I mean, yeah, good friend.

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<v Speaker 3>The only thing that you know, Matt was the aggressor

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<v Speaker 3>of was the fucking air, because that's the only thing

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<v Speaker 3>he punched was air.

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00:20:39.440 --> 00:20:43.119
<v Speaker 1>That's right, that was it. You're right, he would have.

428
00:20:43.240 --> 00:20:45.640
<v Speaker 3>If it weren't for him being inside his own crazy head,

429
00:20:45.680 --> 00:20:46.920
<v Speaker 3>it would have been a breathe.

430
00:20:46.640 --> 00:20:47.240
<v Speaker 2>For him in there.

431
00:20:47.680 --> 00:20:50.200
<v Speaker 1>They showed those clips of him like looking toward the

432
00:20:50.200 --> 00:20:54.160
<v Speaker 1>ceiling and pretending to scream. It was just like School

433
00:20:54.200 --> 00:20:59.599
<v Speaker 1>of Drama. Just get okay. So soul a dad asked

434
00:20:59.720 --> 00:21:02.319
<v Speaker 1>Jack Glynn about the breakdown the show, which I had

435
00:21:02.359 --> 00:21:04.440
<v Speaker 1>totally forgotten about, like on that first day when she

436
00:21:04.440 --> 00:21:05.680
<v Speaker 1>put her hands up and was like, I'm not going

437
00:21:05.720 --> 00:21:06.880
<v Speaker 1>to be able to do this because I missed my

438
00:21:06.920 --> 00:21:10.480
<v Speaker 1>kid so much, right, And we see her crying about

439
00:21:10.519 --> 00:21:13.519
<v Speaker 1>of course she had lost a child, and she says,

440
00:21:13.559 --> 00:21:15.519
<v Speaker 1>you know, I wasn't able to talk to my daughter

441
00:21:15.599 --> 00:21:17.720
<v Speaker 1>Jimma at the beginning, and I had a panic attack

442
00:21:17.759 --> 00:21:20.960
<v Speaker 1>about it. And then we see the call that she

443
00:21:21.039 --> 00:21:23.519
<v Speaker 1>made to Jimma and her mom going is okay mom,

444
00:21:24.519 --> 00:21:26.400
<v Speaker 1>And so it has says, so why did you Why

445
00:21:26.400 --> 00:21:28.640
<v Speaker 1>did you stay? Because you could have left? And she says,

446
00:21:28.720 --> 00:21:30.799
<v Speaker 1>I have guilt. I've guilt about things I've done in

447
00:21:30.839 --> 00:21:34.039
<v Speaker 1>my life in situations I've gone through, and I have

448
00:21:34.079 --> 00:21:37.440
<v Speaker 1>a hard time believing that I deserve anything in life.

449
00:21:37.920 --> 00:21:40.160
<v Speaker 1>So it was like punishment.

450
00:21:40.440 --> 00:21:45.319
<v Speaker 2>It's still like the baby's death has something to do

451
00:21:45.359 --> 00:21:45.759
<v Speaker 2>with her.

452
00:21:46.240 --> 00:21:47.960
<v Speaker 1>Right, it was an accident, but we don't know what

453
00:21:48.039 --> 00:21:48.480
<v Speaker 1>the accident.

454
00:21:48.599 --> 00:21:49.799
<v Speaker 2>No, we know what it was.

455
00:21:50.480 --> 00:21:52.319
<v Speaker 1>Again, I think we're going to find it all on Reddit,

456
00:21:52.319 --> 00:21:56.759
<v Speaker 1>because she did go on Doctor phil to talk about it. Oh, okay,

457
00:21:56.839 --> 00:21:58.839
<v Speaker 1>she was not a Doctor Philip. But again I haven't looked,

458
00:21:58.839 --> 00:22:02.400
<v Speaker 1>so I don't know. So so Colonel Iger says, we

459
00:22:02.440 --> 00:22:05.720
<v Speaker 1>hear that a lot from female offenders. They don't feel

460
00:22:05.759 --> 00:22:10.279
<v Speaker 1>they deserve anything good in the world. Angel hugs Jacqueline,

461
00:22:10.279 --> 00:22:11.359
<v Speaker 1>which was very nice.

462
00:22:11.920 --> 00:22:12.480
<v Speaker 2>It was fake.

463
00:22:13.160 --> 00:22:16.920
<v Speaker 1>Well okay, so oh, she probably was.

464
00:22:17.319 --> 00:22:19.319
<v Speaker 2>More interested in her ethel after the.

465
00:22:19.279 --> 00:22:25.279
<v Speaker 1>Show stop it. So okay, let's dig into Stephanie. We

466
00:22:25.359 --> 00:22:28.079
<v Speaker 1>see some clips of her being a total asshole like.

467
00:22:28.000 --> 00:22:30.920
<v Speaker 3>She is, Yeah, which was the majority of the She

468
00:22:30.960 --> 00:22:33.440
<v Speaker 3>only became Did she stop being an asshole.

469
00:22:33.160 --> 00:22:35.079
<v Speaker 2>Whenever Swow came after her?

470
00:22:35.240 --> 00:22:38.000
<v Speaker 1>Then she got real scared, Yes she did. And she

471
00:22:38.079 --> 00:22:40.599
<v Speaker 1>talks about how she's just using Jacqueline and she would

472
00:22:40.640 --> 00:22:42.920
<v Speaker 1>throw her under the bus and throw her away like

473
00:22:43.039 --> 00:22:45.960
<v Speaker 1>yesterday's Trish. She could just be history to her, and

474
00:22:46.000 --> 00:22:48.440
<v Speaker 1>how it's a competition and she's gonna win the competition.

475
00:22:48.839 --> 00:22:51.319
<v Speaker 1>And she'll be happy if she finishes the sixty days

476
00:22:51.319 --> 00:22:54.680
<v Speaker 1>in and be thrilled if Jackie goes home. Okay, this

477
00:22:54.880 --> 00:22:59.079
<v Speaker 1>wasn't Survivor, this was I Love Him, But I love

478
00:22:59.119 --> 00:23:01.720
<v Speaker 1>how they referenced this here. They're like, what show did

479
00:23:01.759 --> 00:23:03.279
<v Speaker 1>you think you were on? Exactly?

480
00:23:03.319 --> 00:23:03.519
<v Speaker 2>You know?

481
00:23:03.640 --> 00:23:08.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Is there a prize? You know? And so Jackie

482
00:23:08.720 --> 00:23:12.680
<v Speaker 1>just loses her mind because she didn't know any of this. Yeah,

483
00:23:12.759 --> 00:23:14.519
<v Speaker 1>she goes, yeh, what do you think America is going

484
00:23:14.599 --> 00:23:17.240
<v Speaker 1>to think about such a nasty individual. We were all

485
00:23:17.279 --> 00:23:20.960
<v Speaker 1>there to further our career careers and help out this system,

486
00:23:21.119 --> 00:23:23.000
<v Speaker 1>and you were there for the wrong reason. This was

487
00:23:23.039 --> 00:23:24.359
<v Speaker 1>not a competition show.

488
00:23:24.599 --> 00:23:25.559
<v Speaker 2>Mm hmmmm hm.

489
00:23:26.039 --> 00:23:27.799
<v Speaker 1>And Stephanie goes to her, do you think I care?

490
00:23:28.599 --> 00:23:31.440
<v Speaker 1>And Jacqueline goes, when you're in jail, you'll get your

491
00:23:31.480 --> 00:23:33.799
<v Speaker 1>ass beat. And if you're from the street, you get

492
00:23:33.799 --> 00:23:35.920
<v Speaker 1>your ass beat. But you're not from the streets, and

493
00:23:35.960 --> 00:23:38.039
<v Speaker 1>you will get your ass beat. That's what's going to

494
00:23:38.079 --> 00:23:40.160
<v Speaker 1>happen to you. I'm done being nice to you. I

495
00:23:40.200 --> 00:23:43.039
<v Speaker 1>took you under my wing, and after all this effort

496
00:23:43.079 --> 00:23:45.359
<v Speaker 1>for all the people in this if you know you

497
00:23:45.400 --> 00:23:48.119
<v Speaker 1>act like a bitch, ass conniving little girl, you deserve

498
00:23:48.240 --> 00:23:51.000
<v Speaker 1>some street justice, and I'll find you. And then she

499
00:23:51.039 --> 00:23:53.400
<v Speaker 1>winks at her and blows her kiss.

500
00:23:53.079 --> 00:23:54.599
<v Speaker 2>And they blew each other kisses.

501
00:23:54.599 --> 00:23:57.079
<v Speaker 3>It's like, these are two individuals who have probably never

502
00:23:57.160 --> 00:23:59.799
<v Speaker 3>been in a fight in their dire life talking shit

503
00:23:59.880 --> 00:24:00.880
<v Speaker 3>to one another.

504
00:24:00.839 --> 00:24:04.839
<v Speaker 1>Right, right, So this is yeah, strange, it was. It was.

505
00:24:05.000 --> 00:24:07.680
<v Speaker 3>It was weird, like I wanted to root for Jackie

506
00:24:07.839 --> 00:24:10.400
<v Speaker 3>when she was saying all this, but then it just.

507
00:24:10.359 --> 00:24:12.240
<v Speaker 2>Came off as weird.

508
00:24:13.359 --> 00:24:15.640
<v Speaker 1>And it seems like it was edited. Strange like that,

509
00:24:15.720 --> 00:24:20.160
<v Speaker 1>maybe there was more because it kind of didn't make sense. Yeah,

510
00:24:20.400 --> 00:24:24.960
<v Speaker 1>it was Sola Dad says, Stephanie wasn't the goal for

511
00:24:25.079 --> 00:24:28.119
<v Speaker 1>everyone to help the colonel, So why would you try

512
00:24:28.119 --> 00:24:32.279
<v Speaker 1>to sabotage another participant? And she goes, yeah, I guess.

513
00:24:32.400 --> 00:24:34.759
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm proud of my success and yeah, I'm

514
00:24:34.759 --> 00:24:35.680
<v Speaker 1>happy she dropped out.

515
00:24:35.839 --> 00:24:41.559
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, I don't understand what, like, how what what

516
00:24:41.720 --> 00:24:43.359
<v Speaker 3>filled your cup with happiness?

517
00:24:43.400 --> 00:24:44.640
<v Speaker 2>The Jacqueline was gone?

518
00:24:45.440 --> 00:24:47.599
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. And they and they mentioned over and

519
00:24:47.680 --> 00:24:55.079
<v Speaker 1>over that Stephanie sabotaged Jacqueline, But how how did she sabotage?

520
00:24:55.119 --> 00:24:57.920
<v Speaker 2>Trying to think back of what she did, I felt.

521
00:24:57.759 --> 00:24:59.119
<v Speaker 1>Like she didn't do anything. She was trying to help

522
00:24:59.160 --> 00:25:02.680
<v Speaker 1>her to get her coming to her room. But do

523
00:25:02.720 --> 00:25:04.680
<v Speaker 1>we think she did that on purpose to get to

524
00:25:04.680 --> 00:25:08.519
<v Speaker 1>make everybody mad at Jacqueline. I don't know.

525
00:25:08.559 --> 00:25:11.720
<v Speaker 3>The only thing I can think is that whenever the

526
00:25:11.799 --> 00:25:16.440
<v Speaker 3>CEO made Stephanie go back to her own room, she

527
00:25:16.480 --> 00:25:18.480
<v Speaker 3>didn't take up for Jaqueline. She didn't say no, no,

528
00:25:18.480 --> 00:25:21.200
<v Speaker 3>no no. She was only doing that because I told

529
00:25:21.240 --> 00:25:23.680
<v Speaker 3>her this was going on. She let them believe that

530
00:25:24.279 --> 00:25:25.359
<v Speaker 3>Jacqueline just thought that.

531
00:25:25.440 --> 00:25:28.680
<v Speaker 2>Swore was a bully. Yeah, that's the only thing I

532
00:25:28.720 --> 00:25:29.240
<v Speaker 2>can think of.

533
00:25:29.759 --> 00:25:32.640
<v Speaker 1>So Nate goes, Yeah, you know, everybody has different reasons

534
00:25:32.680 --> 00:25:35.960
<v Speaker 1>for doing it, but the colonel hand selected each and

535
00:25:36.000 --> 00:25:39.480
<v Speaker 1>every one of us. So he selected you and for

536
00:25:39.519 --> 00:25:41.880
<v Speaker 1>you to come in and try to manipulate I don't

537
00:25:41.920 --> 00:25:42.880
<v Speaker 1>really see the purpose.

538
00:25:43.880 --> 00:25:44.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she like.

539
00:25:44.680 --> 00:25:45.519
<v Speaker 1>Wanted to be the best.

540
00:25:45.519 --> 00:25:47.759
<v Speaker 3>She acts like there was going to be like a

541
00:25:47.880 --> 00:25:50.960
<v Speaker 3>prize at the end for being the best inmate.

542
00:25:51.799 --> 00:25:54.799
<v Speaker 2>And if that had been true, it would have gone

543
00:25:54.799 --> 00:25:56.960
<v Speaker 2>to Nate, not Stephanie.

544
00:25:57.240 --> 00:26:01.519
<v Speaker 1>Right, So now goes, well, you owe her an apology

545
00:26:01.559 --> 00:26:03.279
<v Speaker 1>and the rest of us too. I came in for

546
00:26:03.319 --> 00:26:05.160
<v Speaker 1>a reason, and you kind of turned it into a

547
00:26:05.200 --> 00:26:08.640
<v Speaker 1>game show, and I'm shocked. You know, all that time

548
00:26:08.680 --> 00:26:11.000
<v Speaker 1>you spent attacking her and trying to get her out

549
00:26:11.359 --> 00:26:14.880
<v Speaker 1>could have been spent doing something productive. Okay, see this

550
00:26:14.920 --> 00:26:15.359
<v Speaker 1>is a moment.

551
00:26:15.359 --> 00:26:17.799
<v Speaker 3>Mass should have been quiet because he was only attacking

552
00:26:17.839 --> 00:26:21.200
<v Speaker 3>Air the entire time. Like he did nothing that was

553
00:26:21.200 --> 00:26:24.279
<v Speaker 3>productive for the program, now except for teach people to

554
00:26:24.279 --> 00:26:28.759
<v Speaker 3>how to have an imaginary friend. Because she just yeah,

555
00:26:28.799 --> 00:26:31.759
<v Speaker 3>he was. She does old Jacqueline an apology. But I

556
00:26:31.759 --> 00:26:34.680
<v Speaker 3>don't think Stephanie owed everyone else no.

557
00:26:34.680 --> 00:26:37.279
<v Speaker 1>Just I think she owed the colonel an apology that too.

558
00:26:37.759 --> 00:26:41.519
<v Speaker 1>But so Stephanie goes, well, she was becoming a target

559
00:26:41.640 --> 00:26:43.519
<v Speaker 1>and I wasn't here to like hang out with her

560
00:26:43.559 --> 00:26:46.640
<v Speaker 1>or become anybody's friend. And Jacqueline goes, no, you were

561
00:26:46.640 --> 00:26:49.160
<v Speaker 1>just there to be on TV. And then she says

562
00:26:49.400 --> 00:26:53.720
<v Speaker 1>like Survivor, yeah, and she goes, yeah, and just like Survivor,

563
00:26:53.799 --> 00:26:58.559
<v Speaker 1>I made it to the season finale. Carl, well, we

564
00:26:58.559 --> 00:27:00.799
<v Speaker 1>should get her, put her ass and Survivor and see

565
00:27:00.799 --> 00:27:03.400
<v Speaker 1>how she would do. She would be gone by day three.

566
00:27:03.720 --> 00:27:04.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

567
00:27:06.160 --> 00:27:09.920
<v Speaker 1>So Jacqueline goes, you're a pathological liar, and I called

568
00:27:09.960 --> 00:27:12.839
<v Speaker 1>your bluff. Your credibility is nothing and nobody should believe

569
00:27:12.880 --> 00:27:15.759
<v Speaker 1>a word that comes out of your mouth. And I'm

570
00:27:15.759 --> 00:27:19.400
<v Speaker 1>gonna tell you something. On the next episode, you'll see

571
00:27:19.400 --> 00:27:22.839
<v Speaker 1>that this is true. So solo Dad says, let me

572
00:27:22.880 --> 00:27:25.480
<v Speaker 1>say this in the nicest way possible. You come across

573
00:27:25.480 --> 00:27:28.880
<v Speaker 1>this as a sociopath. She did it.

574
00:27:28.920 --> 00:27:30.839
<v Speaker 3>And here's the thing, there's no nice way to put

575
00:27:30.839 --> 00:27:32.039
<v Speaker 3>that at all.

576
00:27:31.799 --> 00:27:33.720
<v Speaker 1>But she totally clocked.

577
00:27:33.440 --> 00:27:34.640
<v Speaker 2>Her because she did.

578
00:27:34.960 --> 00:27:38.720
<v Speaker 1>She did, And the colonel goes, yeah, I was thinking

579
00:27:38.759 --> 00:27:41.559
<v Speaker 1>that too. I was thinking that too, And solo Dad says,

580
00:27:41.640 --> 00:27:44.720
<v Speaker 1>you're trying to ask a competitor who is not competing

581
00:27:44.759 --> 00:27:47.079
<v Speaker 1>with you in a system where you're supposed to be

582
00:27:47.119 --> 00:27:49.480
<v Speaker 1>helping the colonel make the system better for people in jail.

583
00:27:50.759 --> 00:27:51.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

584
00:27:51.200 --> 00:27:51.920
<v Speaker 1>And here's the thing.

585
00:27:52.440 --> 00:27:54.759
<v Speaker 2>If she didn't like Jacqueline, they never.

586
00:27:54.599 --> 00:27:57.119
<v Speaker 1>Have to talk. She never had. They never had to

587
00:27:57.119 --> 00:27:59.400
<v Speaker 1>say like, hey, I could tell your an. She could

588
00:27:59.400 --> 00:28:01.400
<v Speaker 1>have just treated her like another inmate and denied she

589
00:28:01.519 --> 00:28:02.319
<v Speaker 1>was in the program.

590
00:28:02.680 --> 00:28:04.839
<v Speaker 3>And even if they had known that the other was

591
00:28:04.839 --> 00:28:06.920
<v Speaker 3>in a program, she still didn't have to fuck with her.

592
00:28:07.240 --> 00:28:11.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's crazy. It was weird behavior. So Stephanie goes,

593
00:28:11.240 --> 00:28:12.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, I do have a hard time with my

594
00:28:12.720 --> 00:28:15.079
<v Speaker 1>feelings and my family tells me this. I just kind

595
00:28:15.079 --> 00:28:18.720
<v Speaker 1>of have a hard time with people we can tell.

596
00:28:19.000 --> 00:28:23.599
<v Speaker 1>So Stilla Dad says, Matt says, you everyone in an apology,

597
00:28:23.720 --> 00:28:25.640
<v Speaker 1>and she goes, no, I mean I think maybe only

598
00:28:25.720 --> 00:28:28.839
<v Speaker 1>Jacqueline and Jackson goes, let's hear it, let's hear it.

599
00:28:28.880 --> 00:28:30.720
<v Speaker 1>I was one hundred percent loyal to you. I had

600
00:28:30.759 --> 00:28:33.519
<v Speaker 1>your back. I'm a firm believer that you should have

601
00:28:33.599 --> 00:28:36.160
<v Speaker 1>gone gone home and I did not never do one

602
00:28:36.279 --> 00:28:38.079
<v Speaker 1>damn thing to you. And we'll see what happens when

603
00:28:38.119 --> 00:28:40.759
<v Speaker 1>this airs. My conscience is clear. You need to analyze

604
00:28:40.759 --> 00:28:44.839
<v Speaker 1>yourself as a woman and grow. And Stephanie goes home, well,

605
00:28:44.839 --> 00:28:48.160
<v Speaker 1>I was trying to talk and you interrupted me. Yeah,

606
00:28:48.200 --> 00:28:50.640
<v Speaker 1>and you're right, Oh, you an apology and I was

607
00:28:50.680 --> 00:28:56.000
<v Speaker 1>about to get there. I'm sorry for trying to get

608
00:28:56.039 --> 00:28:58.720
<v Speaker 1>you out, I'm sorry for lying to you, and I'm

609
00:28:58.720 --> 00:29:01.519
<v Speaker 1>sorry for throwing you under the bat us a few times.

610
00:29:02.440 --> 00:29:03.720
<v Speaker 2>She could have gotten or killed.

611
00:29:04.480 --> 00:29:06.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she's just like, I mean, she reala could have

612
00:29:08.839 --> 00:29:10.920
<v Speaker 1>okay on to Johnny and we're done with that. So

613
00:29:10.920 --> 00:29:12.079
<v Speaker 1>that's why I kind of felt like it could just

614
00:29:12.079 --> 00:29:14.880
<v Speaker 1>could have been longer. They could have given us more. Yeah,

615
00:29:15.519 --> 00:29:17.799
<v Speaker 1>so Johnny explains, you know, he did this for his

616
00:29:17.960 --> 00:29:21.599
<v Speaker 1>kid who's in jail, and to show that even if

617
00:29:21.640 --> 00:29:23.440
<v Speaker 1>you're in a dark place, there will be light at

618
00:29:23.480 --> 00:29:25.160
<v Speaker 1>the end of the tunnel, and you don't have to

619
00:29:25.160 --> 00:29:29.160
<v Speaker 1>make it worse for yourself in jail and get more time. Yes,

620
00:29:29.599 --> 00:29:30.960
<v Speaker 1>which is what could have happened to him if you

621
00:29:31.000 --> 00:29:31.720
<v Speaker 1>beat up that guy.

622
00:29:32.039 --> 00:29:35.279
<v Speaker 2>But which I don't think one of them wanted to

623
00:29:35.279 --> 00:29:35.839
<v Speaker 2>fight the other.

624
00:29:37.359 --> 00:29:39.039
<v Speaker 1>I think Johnny wanted to beat his ass, but he

625
00:29:39.039 --> 00:29:40.279
<v Speaker 1>also didn't want to get in trouble.

626
00:29:41.400 --> 00:29:43.759
<v Speaker 3>I think he wanted to be his ass in his head,

627
00:29:45.279 --> 00:29:47.000
<v Speaker 3>but physically he knew.

628
00:29:47.079 --> 00:29:50.519
<v Speaker 1>He wasn't going to be able to beat that guy's ass. Yeah. Yeah,

629
00:29:50.960 --> 00:29:54.559
<v Speaker 1>so's Johnnie, how do you feel about Emmanuel? And he goes,

630
00:29:54.599 --> 00:29:57.440
<v Speaker 1>oh God, I love that guy, And she goes, now

631
00:29:57.720 --> 00:30:01.319
<v Speaker 1>you are huh. He goes, Look, he did rub me

632
00:30:01.319 --> 00:30:03.960
<v Speaker 1>the wrong way, and I thought he was kind of selfish.

633
00:30:04.160 --> 00:30:07.519
<v Speaker 1>But he's young. And here's the thing I knew right

634
00:30:07.559 --> 00:30:09.279
<v Speaker 1>when I saw him he was in the program. He's

635
00:30:09.319 --> 00:30:11.440
<v Speaker 1>got beautiful teeth and a beautiful body. I knew he

636
00:30:11.480 --> 00:30:14.759
<v Speaker 1>didn't come for the streets. The beautiful body part kind of.

637
00:30:16.160 --> 00:30:16.440
<v Speaker 2>And soil.

638
00:30:16.480 --> 00:30:19.759
<v Speaker 1>A dad goes, so is this dental work? And he

639
00:30:19.799 --> 00:30:21.799
<v Speaker 1>goes yeah, and they go that can be a dividing

640
00:30:21.839 --> 00:30:23.799
<v Speaker 1>line in jail, to which I should have had the

641
00:30:23.799 --> 00:30:25.559
<v Speaker 1>picture of a rabbit ready to pull up for you.

642
00:30:26.359 --> 00:30:28.400
<v Speaker 3>I was ready for rabbit to hop out at any

643
00:30:28.440 --> 00:30:29.759
<v Speaker 3>moment during this reunion.

644
00:30:30.440 --> 00:30:32.440
<v Speaker 2>I think that was the one thing that the reunion

645
00:30:32.519 --> 00:30:33.000
<v Speaker 2>was missing.

646
00:30:33.519 --> 00:30:36.079
<v Speaker 3>I thought that box in the middle was gonna be

647
00:30:36.359 --> 00:30:38.160
<v Speaker 3>like him hopping out.

648
00:30:38.039 --> 00:30:39.559
<v Speaker 2>Of it with everybody.

649
00:30:40.279 --> 00:30:42.640
<v Speaker 1>It would have been a very nice here for the

650
00:30:42.680 --> 00:30:44.880
<v Speaker 1>next episode to be. Like some of the other people

651
00:30:44.920 --> 00:30:49.839
<v Speaker 1>we saw on the show were this girl, one of

652
00:30:49.880 --> 00:30:53.519
<v Speaker 1>these white girls that was in UH that was like

653
00:30:53.559 --> 00:30:56.039
<v Speaker 1>trying to talk to Gabrielle, Like what happened to Angel

654
00:30:56.039 --> 00:30:57.759
<v Speaker 1>and stuff? Like the one of those white girls that

655
00:30:57.839 --> 00:30:59.839
<v Speaker 1>was like the strippers at the party. We saw them

656
00:30:59.839 --> 00:31:01.839
<v Speaker 1>a lot. I'd like to know what happened to them.

657
00:31:02.359 --> 00:31:04.480
<v Speaker 1>We really want to know what happened to Desmond, what

658
00:31:04.599 --> 00:31:08.799
<v Speaker 1>happened to Uh, to Big Swoll, what happened to Little Spoils,

659
00:31:08.960 --> 00:31:11.400
<v Speaker 1>the guy that broke the iPad, you know all these people.

660
00:31:11.759 --> 00:31:12.720
<v Speaker 1>What happened to Timbo?

661
00:31:13.240 --> 00:31:17.079
<v Speaker 3>You know, I'm sure, I'm sure Tbo's still there. I'm sure,

662
00:31:17.160 --> 00:31:18.000
<v Speaker 3>Well he's in prison.

663
00:31:18.240 --> 00:31:22.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it says, you know, the dental the dental

664
00:31:22.599 --> 00:31:24.920
<v Speaker 1>work could be a dividing line in jail. So we

665
00:31:25.000 --> 00:31:30.160
<v Speaker 1>see some of Emmanuel's rants in the jail and he goes,

666
00:31:30.240 --> 00:31:32.160
<v Speaker 1>I was trying to be the voice of the people

667
00:31:32.319 --> 00:31:36.279
<v Speaker 1>in that jail and know when he was like complaining,

668
00:31:36.400 --> 00:31:38.480
<v Speaker 1>like I wrote a report but didn't know nothing ever

669
00:31:38.519 --> 00:31:42.160
<v Speaker 1>happened whatever. Yeah, Colonel Andre says, yeah, but those rants

670
00:31:42.160 --> 00:31:44.759
<v Speaker 1>that you did, that wouldn't get anything fixed then and there,

671
00:31:45.319 --> 00:31:46.440
<v Speaker 1>like you work in a change it.

672
00:31:47.240 --> 00:31:49.920
<v Speaker 3>But his thig about it was the thing is is

673
00:31:49.960 --> 00:31:52.920
<v Speaker 3>that when he was doing those rants, all the CEOs

674
00:31:52.920 --> 00:31:55.680
<v Speaker 3>were focused on him, whereas a fucking fight could have

675
00:31:55.680 --> 00:31:58.519
<v Speaker 3>broke out at any moment because all the CEOs.

676
00:31:58.160 --> 00:32:00.599
<v Speaker 2>Are over there because he started his different. Yeah, don't

677
00:32:00.599 --> 00:32:01.039
<v Speaker 2>get me.

678
00:32:00.920 --> 00:32:04.200
<v Speaker 3>Wrong, what he was upset about it was a legitimate

679
00:32:04.200 --> 00:32:07.119
<v Speaker 3>reason because that was very unstanitary what was going on.

680
00:32:07.240 --> 00:32:12.640
<v Speaker 2>But the way he went about it was very hmmm.

681
00:32:13.839 --> 00:32:18.680
<v Speaker 1>It was a yeah, yeah, and again with the changing

682
00:32:18.720 --> 00:32:20.480
<v Speaker 1>of the accent, you know, like.

683
00:32:20.559 --> 00:32:22.160
<v Speaker 2>He cannot stick to a character.

684
00:32:23.960 --> 00:32:27.559
<v Speaker 1>So Boucci is like, you know, I tried to be

685
00:32:27.640 --> 00:32:30.119
<v Speaker 1>civil with the CEOs and there were the times that

686
00:32:30.200 --> 00:32:31.680
<v Speaker 1>the CEOs just didn't care. And we you know, we

687
00:32:31.680 --> 00:32:33.119
<v Speaker 1>see some clips that have been going I don't give

688
00:32:33.119 --> 00:32:37.839
<v Speaker 1>a fuck about you and all this stuff. So Onto

689
00:32:37.839 --> 00:32:39.440
<v Speaker 1>Alan and that's it. That's all we get from me.

690
00:32:41.119 --> 00:32:44.599
<v Speaker 1>Onto Alan. Alan is a cop in a small town

691
00:32:44.599 --> 00:32:47.839
<v Speaker 1>in Texas. We were recalled and uh yeah, he was

692
00:32:47.880 --> 00:32:50.079
<v Speaker 1>worried being in there as a cop, he says, But

693
00:32:50.119 --> 00:32:52.359
<v Speaker 1>my main reason to be in there is to show

694
00:32:52.400 --> 00:32:54.680
<v Speaker 1>the human side of a police officer, like I can

695
00:32:54.759 --> 00:32:58.799
<v Speaker 1>mingle and make friends, in form relationships with people. We

696
00:32:58.880 --> 00:33:00.640
<v Speaker 1>rolled clips and we see his break down, how he

697
00:33:00.680 --> 00:33:03.039
<v Speaker 1>got like when he got that new roommate, and then

698
00:33:03.039 --> 00:33:06.200
<v Speaker 1>how I was ready to go and everything, and he says,

699
00:33:06.240 --> 00:33:08.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, I didn't always have a good experience with

700
00:33:09.000 --> 00:33:12.160
<v Speaker 1>the officers there, and they always called me white boy

701
00:33:12.200 --> 00:33:13.680
<v Speaker 1>and all that stuff. And he goes and it opened

702
00:33:13.759 --> 00:33:15.920
<v Speaker 1>my eyes a little bit, and I could see the

703
00:33:15.920 --> 00:33:18.799
<v Speaker 1>frustrations with the law enforcement in general, you know, being

704
00:33:18.799 --> 00:33:21.440
<v Speaker 1>on the other side of it. Now, Angela gos you know,

705
00:33:21.680 --> 00:33:22.680
<v Speaker 1>welcome to my life.

706
00:33:23.440 --> 00:33:26.400
<v Speaker 2>Well, so we have to remember that this is right.

707
00:33:27.960 --> 00:33:28.960
<v Speaker 2>What year was this.

708
00:33:30.400 --> 00:33:32.359
<v Speaker 1>Was it? I don't know, I don't know. I can

709
00:33:32.359 --> 00:33:36.039
<v Speaker 1>look right it was after Black Lives Minter matter, And

710
00:33:36.079 --> 00:33:37.160
<v Speaker 1>that's what I was going to say.

711
00:33:37.200 --> 00:33:39.480
<v Speaker 3>This is on the tail end of all the Black

712
00:33:39.519 --> 00:33:43.160
<v Speaker 3>Lives matters, the police brutality. So I think a lot

713
00:33:43.200 --> 00:33:46.559
<v Speaker 3>of the attitude that Angelaie had, which I'm not saying

714
00:33:46.559 --> 00:33:50.039
<v Speaker 3>that it was right, was really based off of that

715
00:33:50.119 --> 00:33:52.880
<v Speaker 3>because it was so thick in the country during that time.

716
00:33:53.279 --> 00:33:57.000
<v Speaker 1>But here, I mean it was filmed in twenty eighteen. Also,

717
00:33:57.039 --> 00:34:04.640
<v Speaker 1>it was before well, let's see when, because I don't

718
00:34:04.680 --> 00:34:12.960
<v Speaker 1>know the exact date of when. Let's say, okay, black

719
00:34:12.960 --> 00:34:16.280
<v Speaker 1>Lives Matter movement started in twenty thirteen with the hashtag

720
00:34:16.559 --> 00:34:21.159
<v Speaker 1>and then let's see, they're twenty fourteen. Was that, well,

721
00:34:21.159 --> 00:34:25.400
<v Speaker 1>it was after Trayvon Martin, so okay, so we're a

722
00:34:25.400 --> 00:34:29.039
<v Speaker 1>little bit and then twenty twenty massive global protests that

723
00:34:29.119 --> 00:34:33.599
<v Speaker 1>really right at the movement. Okay, So I'm gonna say,

724
00:34:33.920 --> 00:34:35.239
<v Speaker 1>is the movement at that time?

725
00:34:35.360 --> 00:34:39.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I most definitely would not want to get pulled

726
00:34:39.239 --> 00:34:43.000
<v Speaker 3>over by Alan, being from a small town in Texas

727
00:34:43.079 --> 00:34:47.719
<v Speaker 3>at nightties not so much that he's a police officer,

728
00:34:48.000 --> 00:34:50.519
<v Speaker 3>but I would think he was a fucking vampire, because

729
00:34:50.559 --> 00:34:54.960
<v Speaker 3>the boy has no blood flowing through his body.

730
00:34:55.480 --> 00:34:57.679
<v Speaker 1>He doesn't get up all No, he doesn't get.

731
00:34:57.639 --> 00:35:00.440
<v Speaker 3>Us yet, and it didn't get any better once he

732
00:35:00.559 --> 00:35:05.119
<v Speaker 3>was out of the program. He says, got that baby Dracula.

733
00:35:05.360 --> 00:35:08.239
<v Speaker 3>Look about himself, I mean the points of ears. And

734
00:35:08.559 --> 00:35:12.440
<v Speaker 3>he's always like this, like al the fo like his hunched.

735
00:35:12.199 --> 00:35:15.800
<v Speaker 1>Over and he's said, and he's so young looking and

736
00:35:15.320 --> 00:35:20.920
<v Speaker 1>he's like two. He looks so little. So when he says,

737
00:35:20.960 --> 00:35:23.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, I could see the frustrations with law enforcement

738
00:35:23.400 --> 00:35:26.800
<v Speaker 1>in general, and Angela says, welcome to my life, she goes, welcome,

739
00:35:27.440 --> 00:35:29.280
<v Speaker 1>she goes, you know, I hate that in that prison,

740
00:35:29.440 --> 00:35:32.679
<v Speaker 1>the men and the women are dehumanized. They're like animals

741
00:35:32.719 --> 00:35:35.719
<v Speaker 1>in there, are like wicked people, but they're mistakes, and

742
00:35:35.760 --> 00:35:38.840
<v Speaker 1>I hate That's the only thing that's highlighted on this

743
00:35:38.960 --> 00:35:41.239
<v Speaker 1>show is the gang bangers in the fights.

744
00:35:42.079 --> 00:35:45.119
<v Speaker 2>Well, hey, that's not that. He was highlighted with your

745
00:35:45.239 --> 00:35:47.360
<v Speaker 2>pod it particularly.

746
00:35:47.159 --> 00:35:50.159
<v Speaker 1>And by the way, you got into a fight. She

747
00:35:50.400 --> 00:35:51.199
<v Speaker 1>started the fight.

748
00:35:51.400 --> 00:35:54.559
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean it was an argument, but she turned

749
00:35:54.599 --> 00:35:56.199
<v Speaker 3>it into a physical altercation.

750
00:35:56.800 --> 00:35:59.000
<v Speaker 1>But she says, the only thing highlighted on the show

751
00:35:59.079 --> 00:36:01.480
<v Speaker 1>is gangbangers and fire, and I disagree with that.

752
00:36:01.679 --> 00:36:02.039
<v Speaker 2>True.

753
00:36:02.079 --> 00:36:03.519
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think if you went back and listened

754
00:36:03.559 --> 00:36:05.400
<v Speaker 1>to our first episode. We were like, oh no, we

755
00:36:05.440 --> 00:36:08.039
<v Speaker 1>don't want to see it, Like the fights are so intense.

756
00:36:08.480 --> 00:36:10.480
<v Speaker 1>But it's not that we got used to it. But

757
00:36:10.519 --> 00:36:14.360
<v Speaker 1>there wasn't a gangbanger fight every episode every episode. No,

758
00:36:14.480 --> 00:36:17.199
<v Speaker 1>there was not, and there certainly was none of that

759
00:36:17.320 --> 00:36:20.199
<v Speaker 1>on the women's side. And by the way, she hasn't

760
00:36:20.199 --> 00:36:25.239
<v Speaker 1>seen the season yet, she's full of shit. So Colonel

761
00:36:25.280 --> 00:36:27.880
<v Speaker 1>Ager says, I'm going to say something provocative here, and

762
00:36:27.960 --> 00:36:30.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean too, like, okay, so we're making excuses for

763
00:36:30.920 --> 00:36:34.760
<v Speaker 1>that violence. He says, if a police officer jumps somebody

764
00:36:34.960 --> 00:36:37.639
<v Speaker 1>jumps on somebody, the whole neighborhood comes out in its

765
00:36:37.639 --> 00:36:41.800
<v Speaker 1>social commentary. But which violence is okay and which isn't.

766
00:36:42.400 --> 00:36:44.800
<v Speaker 1>And so he's trying to say, like, so it's okay

767
00:36:44.840 --> 00:36:47.760
<v Speaker 1>with this violence in prison, but if a police officer does,

768
00:36:48.199 --> 00:36:51.480
<v Speaker 1>by the way, none of it's okay. No, it's so violence.

769
00:36:51.880 --> 00:36:55.239
<v Speaker 1>And she goes, I'm speaking real, what do you mean

770
00:36:55.880 --> 00:36:58.639
<v Speaker 1>And he goes, I'm being real too. This is black

771
00:36:58.679 --> 00:37:02.119
<v Speaker 1>on black crimes in the jail, just like in the streets.

772
00:37:02.199 --> 00:37:04.280
<v Speaker 1>And so she agrees, and he says, but the minute

773
00:37:04.320 --> 00:37:06.679
<v Speaker 1>a cop is involved, we have to jump up and

774
00:37:06.679 --> 00:37:08.679
<v Speaker 1>down and tear down the town. And she's like, oh,

775
00:37:09.400 --> 00:37:12.320
<v Speaker 1>she just laughs at him like he's immature.

776
00:37:12.559 --> 00:37:13.599
<v Speaker 2>She really is.

777
00:37:13.920 --> 00:37:16.360
<v Speaker 3>She's one of those people who talks a good talk

778
00:37:16.599 --> 00:37:19.880
<v Speaker 3>like she knows so much, she's so experienced.

779
00:37:19.360 --> 00:37:23.280
<v Speaker 1>But really she doesn't. But he is a black man

780
00:37:23.480 --> 00:37:26.199
<v Speaker 1>and a cop and running this prison, and so he's

781
00:37:26.199 --> 00:37:29.039
<v Speaker 1>trying to give his experience of being in this prison

782
00:37:29.079 --> 00:37:31.000
<v Speaker 1>system because.

783
00:37:30.760 --> 00:37:33.000
<v Speaker 2>He has to live in a world as a black man.

784
00:37:32.880 --> 00:37:34.880
<v Speaker 3>When he's not in uniform, yes, but then when he

785
00:37:34.920 --> 00:37:36.880
<v Speaker 3>goes there, he's completely law enforcement.

786
00:37:36.960 --> 00:37:38.760
<v Speaker 2>So what better person to listen.

787
00:37:38.519 --> 00:37:44.719
<v Speaker 1>To than him? Soladad says sir, with all do there

788
00:37:44.800 --> 00:37:47.639
<v Speaker 1>is no black on black crime. There is just crime.

789
00:37:48.119 --> 00:37:51.119
<v Speaker 1>White people kill white people. Black people kill black people,

790
00:37:51.599 --> 00:37:53.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, and people are more likely to be killed

791
00:37:53.920 --> 00:37:56.760
<v Speaker 1>by the same race. So I'm gonna disagree with you,

792
00:37:56.840 --> 00:38:00.360
<v Speaker 1>full stop and with respect. There's a difference between two

793
00:38:00.440 --> 00:38:03.480
<v Speaker 1>people fighting and a police officer who's in charge of

794
00:38:03.480 --> 00:38:06.800
<v Speaker 1>the community to uphold the law, fighting between a police

795
00:38:06.800 --> 00:38:10.039
<v Speaker 1>officer and a civilian, they're two different standards. And he goes,

796
00:38:10.519 --> 00:38:13.280
<v Speaker 1>I agree with that, we expect more from our law enforcement.

797
00:38:13.599 --> 00:38:17.480
<v Speaker 1>But my point is I don't tolerate any level of violence. Yeah,

798
00:38:17.519 --> 00:38:22.400
<v Speaker 1>and Angel literally goes, this, fucking guy, she's stupid.

799
00:38:22.840 --> 00:38:24.800
<v Speaker 2>I can't, but I can. I just mention as a

800
00:38:24.840 --> 00:38:26.679
<v Speaker 2>side note, Salivad O'Brien has.

801
00:38:26.679 --> 00:38:30.360
<v Speaker 1>Like the perfect hare. Oh my god, she's very pretty.

802
00:38:30.840 --> 00:38:32.719
<v Speaker 1>It's it's it's the hair.

803
00:38:32.719 --> 00:38:33.440
<v Speaker 2>Is just beautiful.

804
00:38:33.679 --> 00:38:39.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she's just just a beautiful journalistic lady. So Alan,

805
00:38:39.920 --> 00:38:42.000
<v Speaker 1>then they go, let's move on to Alan because they

806
00:38:42.079 --> 00:38:46.360
<v Speaker 1>just drop that subject. And Alan says he's no longer

807
00:38:46.440 --> 00:38:49.800
<v Speaker 1>a full time police officer, right, He said, I just

808
00:38:49.880 --> 00:38:53.159
<v Speaker 1>couldn't think of arresting somebody with a diningbag of weed

809
00:38:53.320 --> 00:38:56.000
<v Speaker 1>and putting them in a place like that. I wouldn't

810
00:38:56.000 --> 00:38:57.119
<v Speaker 1>be able to live with myself.

811
00:38:57.599 --> 00:38:59.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, so he really did learn.

812
00:39:00.599 --> 00:39:02.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, something he really didn't learn, Like there are people

813
00:39:02.920 --> 00:39:05.519
<v Speaker 1>in here that I'm friends with that literally sold a

814
00:39:05.559 --> 00:39:08.800
<v Speaker 1>dimbag of weed one time and now they're in here,

815
00:39:09.400 --> 00:39:09.639
<v Speaker 1>you know.

816
00:39:10.199 --> 00:39:13.800
<v Speaker 3>So he truly took something away from this experience.

817
00:39:14.679 --> 00:39:19.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, unlike the majority of the casts. Yeah, yeah, I agreed.

818
00:39:19.320 --> 00:39:21.280
<v Speaker 1>So Solidad says, Okay, so we're going to talk about

819
00:39:21.280 --> 00:39:24.719
<v Speaker 1>the participants and the inmates and the lines getting blurry,

820
00:39:25.440 --> 00:39:28.400
<v Speaker 1>and so you think they're going to talk about Antelaine Gabrielle,

821
00:39:28.400 --> 00:39:31.280
<v Speaker 1>but she wants to talk about the drug use. So

822
00:39:31.320 --> 00:39:33.639
<v Speaker 1>we see the parties in the women's sections and the whippets,

823
00:39:33.880 --> 00:39:36.880
<v Speaker 1>and then we see Nate and Allen asking people in

824
00:39:36.920 --> 00:39:40.239
<v Speaker 1>their pods like how to get drugs. We see Angel

825
00:39:40.280 --> 00:39:43.440
<v Speaker 1>doing the smoking of the whatever they were smoking, and

826
00:39:43.719 --> 00:39:49.320
<v Speaker 1>doing whippets, Spany doing whippets, and her saying it's okay

827
00:39:49.360 --> 00:39:51.000
<v Speaker 1>for her to do it because she used to be

828
00:39:51.039 --> 00:39:53.800
<v Speaker 1>a pharmacy tech, so she knows where to draw the line.

829
00:39:54.599 --> 00:39:55.719
<v Speaker 2>Well, does she know what?

830
00:39:56.239 --> 00:39:56.599
<v Speaker 1>Okay?

831
00:39:56.760 --> 00:40:00.119
<v Speaker 3>Every pharmacy tech can't look at just any pill, tell

832
00:40:00.159 --> 00:40:03.000
<v Speaker 3>you exactly what it is, the side effects and all

833
00:40:03.039 --> 00:40:06.920
<v Speaker 3>of that. She can't do that, Like, there's no there's

834
00:40:06.920 --> 00:40:09.400
<v Speaker 3>no way. She doesn't know how many of the pills

835
00:40:09.400 --> 00:40:11.760
<v Speaker 3>that are putting in there. I mean, she's not sitting

836
00:40:11.800 --> 00:40:14.840
<v Speaker 3>there studying it, saying, let me see that pill first.

837
00:40:14.840 --> 00:40:16.480
<v Speaker 2>This pill should be mixed with that pill and not

838
00:40:16.559 --> 00:40:16.880
<v Speaker 2>with that.

839
00:40:17.519 --> 00:40:20.719
<v Speaker 1>She's full shit. I agree, I agree, And Nate goes,

840
00:40:21.119 --> 00:40:24.800
<v Speaker 1>were you not worried about getting arrested? Right? And Angel goes,

841
00:40:25.199 --> 00:40:27.559
<v Speaker 1>you know, I've realized that the jail system, it's not

842
00:40:27.760 --> 00:40:30.440
<v Speaker 1>a form of wanting to fix things. It's about control.

843
00:40:31.599 --> 00:40:34.360
<v Speaker 1>And Coloneledgrick goes, what do you mean about control? And

844
00:40:34.400 --> 00:40:36.840
<v Speaker 1>she goes, excuse me, I was talking and you don't

845
00:40:36.880 --> 00:40:39.840
<v Speaker 1>control me on this set. And he goes, I'm tired

846
00:40:39.880 --> 00:40:42.000
<v Speaker 1>of her. He goes, I just asked a question.

847
00:40:42.599 --> 00:40:44.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm tired of her. And when I'm not tired

848
00:40:44.400 --> 00:40:47.039
<v Speaker 3>of her, I'm sick of her. She's just doing too much.

849
00:40:47.159 --> 00:40:49.719
<v Speaker 1>I agree, Sola. Dad goes, Nate asked if you were

850
00:40:49.760 --> 00:40:53.519
<v Speaker 1>concerned about actually getting arrested, because he said, were you

851
00:40:53.519 --> 00:40:56.159
<v Speaker 1>worried about getting arrested? And she goes into this jail

852
00:40:56.199 --> 00:40:59.679
<v Speaker 1>system is about control? Yeah, and he goes, Okay, that's

853
00:40:59.760 --> 00:41:00.519
<v Speaker 1>not the question.

854
00:41:01.480 --> 00:41:03.559
<v Speaker 2>She wants to be part of a movement, so damn bad.

855
00:41:03.800 --> 00:41:06.840
<v Speaker 1>Yes, and Colonel are says, so okay, So why were

856
00:41:06.840 --> 00:41:11.239
<v Speaker 1>you saying control? And he goes, because, let me explain

857
00:41:11.280 --> 00:41:13.440
<v Speaker 1>why I'm thinking. When I'm in there, I'm thinking of

858
00:41:13.480 --> 00:41:16.840
<v Speaker 1>public health and public safety. And in my thirty years,

859
00:41:16.880 --> 00:41:20.000
<v Speaker 1>I've seen what drugs do to people. I've seen a

860
00:41:20.039 --> 00:41:22.840
<v Speaker 1>man with a twenty year old mind smoke something tainted

861
00:41:23.320 --> 00:41:25.400
<v Speaker 1>and their brain is he says, their brain is no

862
00:41:25.480 --> 00:41:28.880
<v Speaker 1>more good now, Yeah, he said, their brain is no good.

863
00:41:29.360 --> 00:41:32.239
<v Speaker 1>And my whole point about the drugs is your health.

864
00:41:32.639 --> 00:41:34.800
<v Speaker 1>I want to return you to your family the way

865
00:41:34.800 --> 00:41:37.880
<v Speaker 1>that I got you, not with the busted up brain

866
00:41:37.920 --> 00:41:39.679
<v Speaker 1>that's addicted to who knows what out there.

867
00:41:40.280 --> 00:41:40.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

868
00:41:40.840 --> 00:41:43.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So Stephanie, she kind of shook her head a

869
00:41:43.000 --> 00:41:45.719
<v Speaker 1>little bit, like, Okay, I get it. So Stephanie says,

870
00:41:46.480 --> 00:41:48.880
<v Speaker 1>in my cell, I thought they were kind of onto me,

871
00:41:49.239 --> 00:41:51.960
<v Speaker 1>and they were definitely onto Jackie. So we did whip

872
00:41:52.000 --> 00:41:53.800
<v Speaker 1>it Wednesdays, and I gotta tell you, I loved it.

873
00:41:53.840 --> 00:41:56.000
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was fun, it tasted good. I loved it.

874
00:41:56.599 --> 00:42:00.679
<v Speaker 1>And she's on it and a pharmacy tag. So I

875
00:42:00.719 --> 00:42:03.360
<v Speaker 1>knew what I was doing. And I didn't eat every

876
00:42:03.360 --> 00:42:07.280
<v Speaker 1>whip it. We saw you more than a few times

877
00:42:07.320 --> 00:42:10.159
<v Speaker 1>whipping it up. Yes we did. And the colonel says,

878
00:42:10.480 --> 00:42:14.280
<v Speaker 1>if the information that I got came at the expense

879
00:42:14.360 --> 00:42:16.519
<v Speaker 1>of someone's health, like she did it to give me

880
00:42:16.559 --> 00:42:23.880
<v Speaker 1>the information, I don't want the information, right. So Solidad

881
00:42:23.960 --> 00:42:26.519
<v Speaker 1>asked Nate about his story because his story is different

882
00:42:26.559 --> 00:42:30.000
<v Speaker 1>because he was in jail for four months, and they said,

883
00:42:30.000 --> 00:42:32.480
<v Speaker 1>what was harder? Because you did two combat tours in

884
00:42:32.519 --> 00:42:35.639
<v Speaker 1>our wreck Iraq? Right, and he says, well, that was

885
00:42:35.719 --> 00:42:37.719
<v Speaker 1>tough because you wake up every day thinking today's the

886
00:42:37.760 --> 00:42:39.599
<v Speaker 1>day I might be able, I might get blown up

887
00:42:39.639 --> 00:42:43.760
<v Speaker 1>and die. But it had freedom, so in a sense,

888
00:42:43.800 --> 00:42:45.400
<v Speaker 1>being locked in the jail cell was worse.

889
00:42:46.280 --> 00:42:48.159
<v Speaker 2>Mmm, that's horrible.

890
00:42:48.599 --> 00:42:50.599
<v Speaker 1>So we see Nate going in which we had never

891
00:42:50.639 --> 00:42:55.320
<v Speaker 1>seen before, and we talked about his bond with Beg

892
00:42:55.679 --> 00:42:58.639
<v Speaker 1>also known as Desmond. We see the scene of his

893
00:42:58.760 --> 00:43:02.840
<v Speaker 1>tablet getting shattered by what I can't they call him

894
00:43:02.880 --> 00:43:06.519
<v Speaker 1>little swollen, they call me big Swoal who's big swoo?

895
00:43:07.239 --> 00:43:08.800
<v Speaker 2>Was big swollen the lady?

896
00:43:10.360 --> 00:43:12.480
<v Speaker 1>Or was swollen the lady? And big swell was the guy?

897
00:43:13.039 --> 00:43:17.760
<v Speaker 3>May ma, I think either way it was swollen and

898
00:43:17.840 --> 00:43:19.719
<v Speaker 3>swell Junior, Let's just do it that way.

899
00:43:20.199 --> 00:43:22.440
<v Speaker 1>Have had big swollen, little swollen, little swoo. Yeah, so

900
00:43:24.039 --> 00:43:28.679
<v Speaker 1>but I don't know who's who. Okay. So he says,

901
00:43:28.719 --> 00:43:30.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, we see the thing with the tablet getting

902
00:43:30.840 --> 00:43:33.199
<v Speaker 1>shattered and stuff, and he goes, I do feel like

903
00:43:33.239 --> 00:43:36.320
<v Speaker 1>when I was in there, I made a difference. I

904
00:43:36.400 --> 00:43:38.039
<v Speaker 1>missed a lot of those guys. You know. I was

905
00:43:38.079 --> 00:43:40.920
<v Speaker 1>with Desmond for one hundred and twenty days, and I

906
00:43:41.000 --> 00:43:45.159
<v Speaker 1>felt like he had made such a change. He told me,

907
00:43:45.239 --> 00:43:47.079
<v Speaker 1>this is the longest time he'd been in jail where

908
00:43:47.079 --> 00:43:50.119
<v Speaker 1>he hadn't been in a fight, and yeah, I was

909
00:43:50.119 --> 00:43:51.800
<v Speaker 1>taking notes to give to the colonel, but I was

910
00:43:51.880 --> 00:43:54.679
<v Speaker 1>helping him. And he says, he's going to go back

911
00:43:54.719 --> 00:43:56.559
<v Speaker 1>to school when he gets out, and I got a

912
00:43:56.920 --> 00:43:59.360
<v Speaker 1>I got a lot of good intel on everybody. And

913
00:43:59.400 --> 00:44:02.599
<v Speaker 1>he goes, I was actually good friends with Carl Swoll,

914
00:44:02.679 --> 00:44:06.639
<v Speaker 1>big swollen, little swollen and tablet, and I couldn't believe

915
00:44:06.679 --> 00:44:09.119
<v Speaker 1>he lied about breaking my tablet, and this was going

916
00:44:09.159 --> 00:44:12.199
<v Speaker 1>to cause a huge problem. And Alan, of course, who

917
00:44:12.199 --> 00:44:14.599
<v Speaker 1>didn't know Nate was in the program. Alan goes, yeah,

918
00:44:14.599 --> 00:44:16.840
<v Speaker 1>the whole zone was going to fight over this, because

919
00:44:16.880 --> 00:44:20.679
<v Speaker 1>everybody loved Nate. Yep. And then he goes, you know,

920
00:44:20.960 --> 00:44:23.320
<v Speaker 1>I was told Nate, you're gonna have to throw the

921
00:44:23.360 --> 00:44:26.840
<v Speaker 1>first punch over this, but then we'll all jump in. Yeah,

922
00:44:27.039 --> 00:44:30.239
<v Speaker 1>and Matt goes and then thank god, swollen, little swollen

923
00:44:30.280 --> 00:44:32.039
<v Speaker 1>came over to our side, So thank you for that.

924
00:44:33.760 --> 00:44:36.280
<v Speaker 2>Thank you Jesus. Well, I think it was more pressure

925
00:44:36.320 --> 00:44:37.800
<v Speaker 2>on Nate, like what do I do.

926
00:44:37.840 --> 00:44:39.960
<v Speaker 1>Here, because he knew he was gonna have to throw

927
00:44:39.960 --> 00:44:42.039
<v Speaker 1>the first punch and he didn't want to do that.

928
00:44:44.679 --> 00:44:47.280
<v Speaker 1>So it says, Okay, Jacqueline and Matt, since you left,

929
00:44:47.480 --> 00:44:50.320
<v Speaker 1>you might not know this, but one of our participants

930
00:44:50.480 --> 00:44:54.840
<v Speaker 1>intentionally broke their cover and compromised the program, and the

931
00:44:54.920 --> 00:44:59.360
<v Speaker 1>colonel had to shut it down for everybody's safety. Yeah,

932
00:45:00.079 --> 00:45:03.360
<v Speaker 1>that goes. Andrew told me what happened, and I was

933
00:45:03.559 --> 00:45:08.639
<v Speaker 1>more than angry, and Alan goes, yeah, I was really

934
00:45:08.719 --> 00:45:10.639
<v Speaker 1>angry when I found out because the word would have

935
00:45:10.639 --> 00:45:14.840
<v Speaker 1>gotten around. Yes, there would have been bloodshed. And that

936
00:45:15.039 --> 00:45:19.320
<v Speaker 1>was the stupidest decision I've ever heard anybody make. I

937
00:45:19.480 --> 00:45:23.320
<v Speaker 1>was close to completing a meth deal, made that house.

938
00:45:23.639 --> 00:45:25.960
<v Speaker 1>I had believe and I just can't believe all this.

939
00:45:26.840 --> 00:45:31.519
<v Speaker 1>So we see the clips of Angel talking about Gabrielle,

940
00:45:31.559 --> 00:45:33.880
<v Speaker 1>and as we're they're showing her, like in the little

941
00:45:33.920 --> 00:45:36.960
<v Speaker 1>thing on the corner, showing her the clips. She's just

942
00:45:37.039 --> 00:45:39.679
<v Speaker 1>smiling ear to ear thinking about how I love she

943
00:45:39.800 --> 00:45:44.360
<v Speaker 1>is with Gabrielle. Yes, and she's saying, Gabrielle and I

944
00:45:44.440 --> 00:45:47.360
<v Speaker 1>had an emotional connection and we loved each other and

945
00:45:47.400 --> 00:45:50.159
<v Speaker 1>we shared our darkest secrets and yo, I told her,

946
00:45:50.199 --> 00:45:53.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm into your undercover. We see all the scenes in

947
00:45:53.440 --> 00:45:57.159
<v Speaker 1>the making out they did not replay the the tent

948
00:45:57.320 --> 00:45:59.639
<v Speaker 1>going downtown scene, and we were happy.

949
00:45:59.679 --> 00:46:01.280
<v Speaker 2>I know you were exceptionally happy.

950
00:46:01.400 --> 00:46:05.280
<v Speaker 1>I didn't need to see that again. Yeah, and Angel goes, no,

951
00:46:05.480 --> 00:46:07.440
<v Speaker 1>I do not feel like I put the program at risk,

952
00:46:07.559 --> 00:46:10.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, because I trust Gabrielle. And then we see

953
00:46:10.920 --> 00:46:12.639
<v Speaker 1>the coronel telling her, well, we would like to let

954
00:46:12.679 --> 00:46:15.280
<v Speaker 1>you know the Gabrielle's it's been twenty minutes and she's

955
00:46:15.280 --> 00:46:16.320
<v Speaker 1>already sold everybody.

956
00:46:16.559 --> 00:46:18.880
<v Speaker 3>I mean, she's saying like now, she got a megaphone

957
00:46:18.920 --> 00:46:21.199
<v Speaker 3>and put the megaphone in front of a microphone and

958
00:46:21.320 --> 00:46:23.280
<v Speaker 3>just told the whole goddamn story.

959
00:46:23.199 --> 00:46:25.199
<v Speaker 1>And was like, if if you bring me a pack

960
00:46:25.199 --> 00:46:26.840
<v Speaker 1>of ramen, I will tell you the story.

961
00:46:27.239 --> 00:46:28.559
<v Speaker 2>I think she would have done it for half a

962
00:46:28.599 --> 00:46:29.440
<v Speaker 2>pat Yeah.

963
00:46:29.639 --> 00:46:32.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So she do it for two whippets and a

964
00:46:33.320 --> 00:46:40.719
<v Speaker 1>oh oh and a session. So Alan says regarding Angel,

965
00:46:40.760 --> 00:46:43.639
<v Speaker 1>he goes, she's from the streets, but she's naive when

966
00:46:43.639 --> 00:46:47.239
<v Speaker 1>she goes to jail, Like what's that about. So Johnny

967
00:46:47.960 --> 00:46:50.320
<v Speaker 1>is like, Angel and I trained together and I just

968
00:46:50.360 --> 00:46:52.840
<v Speaker 1>love her so much, like she's a firecracker. I was

969
00:46:52.920 --> 00:46:55.599
<v Speaker 1>rooting for her, and I get it, like you fall

970
00:46:55.639 --> 00:46:58.400
<v Speaker 1>in love. Love is love. I get it, but in

971
00:46:58.519 --> 00:47:01.039
<v Speaker 1>there we were your brothers, sisters, and we did it

972
00:47:01.039 --> 00:47:04.119
<v Speaker 1>with the bond that we trusted each other. And I

973
00:47:04.119 --> 00:47:05.960
<v Speaker 1>got to tell you, man, I was mad. I was

974
00:47:06.000 --> 00:47:07.760
<v Speaker 1>mad because I had a plan to reach out to

975
00:47:07.760 --> 00:47:10.239
<v Speaker 1>some of those kids in there to show them that

976
00:47:10.320 --> 00:47:12.480
<v Speaker 1>the gangway wasn't the way. And I was on a roll,

977
00:47:12.920 --> 00:47:16.880
<v Speaker 1>and you robbed me from completing that. Yep. And Angel goes,

978
00:47:17.280 --> 00:47:20.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, Johnny, I'm sorry. Yeah, she's only sorry because

979
00:47:20.920 --> 00:47:24.880
<v Speaker 1>she disappointed Johnny. She's only sorry for Johnny. Yeah, And

980
00:47:24.920 --> 00:47:27.719
<v Speaker 1>so Angel goes, Look, I have no excuse for myself.

981
00:47:27.800 --> 00:47:30.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm a human and I went into it. I didn't

982
00:47:30.440 --> 00:47:33.280
<v Speaker 1>see them as inmates. I saw them as fellow humans

983
00:47:33.280 --> 00:47:36.440
<v Speaker 1>who made human errors. I wasn't judging anybody for what

984
00:47:36.480 --> 00:47:39.679
<v Speaker 1>they've done. It's different when you're from the hood. You

985
00:47:39.719 --> 00:47:42.280
<v Speaker 1>see that pain, you feel that pain. You walk in

986
00:47:42.360 --> 00:47:48.480
<v Speaker 1>someone's shoes, and the colonel says, the colonel says, Alan

987
00:47:48.599 --> 00:47:51.039
<v Speaker 1>got to walk in their shoes. He didn't walk in

988
00:47:51.079 --> 00:47:54.360
<v Speaker 1>their shoes. He's a cop. He's on the oppressor side.

989
00:47:54.599 --> 00:47:56.840
<v Speaker 1>And you've got these women who are oppressed. You know,

990
00:47:57.840 --> 00:48:00.920
<v Speaker 1>they're not over us. They're in jail for committing a crime.

991
00:48:01.400 --> 00:48:04.559
<v Speaker 3>And then I hate this insinuation that everyone who is

992
00:48:04.599 --> 00:48:05.840
<v Speaker 3>in jail is from the hood.

993
00:48:06.400 --> 00:48:07.639
<v Speaker 1>That's not the case.

994
00:48:07.920 --> 00:48:11.920
<v Speaker 3>Like, no quit, no quit creating that narrative because it's

995
00:48:11.960 --> 00:48:12.719
<v Speaker 3>not true.

996
00:48:12.920 --> 00:48:14.679
<v Speaker 2>Yes, a large majority may have been.

997
00:48:14.559 --> 00:48:19.079
<v Speaker 3>From socially what do you call it, economic disadvantages?

998
00:48:19.199 --> 00:48:22.800
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, but not everyone is from the hood. Like

999
00:48:22.920 --> 00:48:25.760
<v Speaker 2>she's she she she's doing too much.

1000
00:48:25.800 --> 00:48:28.840
<v Speaker 1>We're doing so little. At the same time, and the

1001
00:48:28.880 --> 00:48:33.079
<v Speaker 1>colonel says, now, hold on regarding Alan, he goes, this

1002
00:48:33.159 --> 00:48:36.559
<v Speaker 1>man did two months in jail. How many cops get

1003
00:48:36.599 --> 00:48:39.760
<v Speaker 1>to do that and keep their job? And the angel goes,

1004
00:48:40.000 --> 00:48:41.679
<v Speaker 1>it's not the same as walking in their shoes and

1005
00:48:41.719 --> 00:48:44.280
<v Speaker 1>you know that. And he goes, you haven't walked in

1006
00:48:44.360 --> 00:48:48.320
<v Speaker 1>his shoes, so how can you say what he experienced.

1007
00:48:48.360 --> 00:48:49.519
<v Speaker 2>Like a CoP's job.

1008
00:48:49.679 --> 00:48:52.519
<v Speaker 3>Here's the thing, it's very dangerous because every day you

1009
00:48:52.679 --> 00:48:55.519
<v Speaker 3>know that you're putting your life on the line to

1010
00:48:55.599 --> 00:48:56.519
<v Speaker 3>protect other people.

1011
00:48:57.079 --> 00:48:58.239
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't want to be a cop.

1012
00:48:59.320 --> 00:48:59.960
<v Speaker 1>Here's the thing.

1013
00:49:00.840 --> 00:49:04.400
<v Speaker 3>As much as much shit as she's talking about the police,

1014
00:49:04.800 --> 00:49:07.760
<v Speaker 3>if something pops off, who's the first person she's gonna.

1015
00:49:07.480 --> 00:49:08.960
<v Speaker 1>Call the police?

1016
00:49:09.199 --> 00:49:12.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, as we all would. So she's just been an

1017
00:49:12.039 --> 00:49:14.000
<v Speaker 3>ass and being super immature.

1018
00:49:14.239 --> 00:49:18.000
<v Speaker 1>And the colonel says, look for any law enforcement he

1019
00:49:18.039 --> 00:49:19.639
<v Speaker 1>didn't have to do this, and he got a lot

1020
00:49:19.719 --> 00:49:22.599
<v Speaker 1>closer to knowing what it's like to be on the

1021
00:49:22.639 --> 00:49:25.079
<v Speaker 1>other side than any other cop maybe in this country.

1022
00:49:26.039 --> 00:49:28.159
<v Speaker 1>And Alan goes, I could have been murdered in that jail.

1023
00:49:28.800 --> 00:49:30.320
<v Speaker 1>And she goes, oh, but you don't have to worry

1024
00:49:30.320 --> 00:49:32.199
<v Speaker 1>about anything on the outside.

1025
00:49:31.719 --> 00:49:32.039
<v Speaker 3>Do you.

1026
00:49:32.760 --> 00:49:34.480
<v Speaker 1>And he goes, oh, okay, I don't have to worry

1027
00:49:34.519 --> 00:49:37.360
<v Speaker 1>about getting shot going to work every day. And she goes,

1028
00:49:37.480 --> 00:49:39.159
<v Speaker 1>I don't have to worry about getting shot filling up

1029
00:49:39.199 --> 00:49:39.760
<v Speaker 1>my gas.

1030
00:49:39.519 --> 00:49:43.639
<v Speaker 3>Tank because people get shot every day filling up their

1031
00:49:43.639 --> 00:49:44.239
<v Speaker 3>gas tanks.

1032
00:49:44.519 --> 00:49:48.119
<v Speaker 1>And Emmanuel goes, what you're talking about experiencing Alan is

1033
00:49:48.119 --> 00:49:50.480
<v Speaker 1>something that we, you know, as black people, go through

1034
00:49:50.519 --> 00:49:54.320
<v Speaker 1>every day. And Alan goes, I get it. I get it.

1035
00:49:54.400 --> 00:49:58.800
<v Speaker 1>He goes, I'm just saying. I'm just saying I understand

1036
00:49:58.840 --> 00:50:01.639
<v Speaker 1>this now more and I hate this all this what

1037
00:50:01.679 --> 00:50:03.840
<v Speaker 1>you're saying, because I'm not that kind of officer.

1038
00:50:04.320 --> 00:50:04.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1039
00:50:05.119 --> 00:50:08.119
<v Speaker 1>So Johnny says, listen, in this society, we think about

1040
00:50:08.119 --> 00:50:10.000
<v Speaker 1>it only being a one way street, but we got

1041
00:50:10.000 --> 00:50:12.079
<v Speaker 1>to think about both sides of the story. For color,

1042
00:50:12.119 --> 00:50:14.920
<v Speaker 1>for everything, and Johnny, I just love Johnny.

1043
00:50:16.199 --> 00:50:18.920
<v Speaker 3>I have to say, like, listening to Alan's story, this

1044
00:50:19.079 --> 00:50:22.360
<v Speaker 3>is what I believe was part of his reason for

1045
00:50:23.239 --> 00:50:26.360
<v Speaker 3>going into the program. I feel as though he did

1046
00:50:26.519 --> 00:50:31.000
<v Speaker 3>have an insensitivity towards people of color with this young

1047
00:50:31.760 --> 00:50:36.119
<v Speaker 3>I feel as though he judge people off the color

1048
00:50:36.159 --> 00:50:38.199
<v Speaker 3>of their skin. That's just the feeling that I get,

1049
00:50:38.320 --> 00:50:40.360
<v Speaker 3>just based off of a lot of things that he said,

1050
00:50:40.440 --> 00:50:43.320
<v Speaker 3>but was probably afraid to go into details.

1051
00:50:43.559 --> 00:50:44.039
<v Speaker 1>Uh huh.

1052
00:50:44.079 --> 00:50:45.679
<v Speaker 2>And this is part of the reason why he did

1053
00:50:45.679 --> 00:50:47.159
<v Speaker 2>this program, I really do.

1054
00:50:48.000 --> 00:50:50.239
<v Speaker 1>But I mean that shows self awareness and trying to

1055
00:50:50.480 --> 00:50:53.360
<v Speaker 1>exactly to change, to change and be better. You know.

1056
00:50:53.440 --> 00:50:55.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I gre you one hundred percent.

1057
00:50:55.800 --> 00:50:58.559
<v Speaker 1>So Solidad asked Angel. She's like, Okay, back to what

1058
00:50:58.599 --> 00:51:01.280
<v Speaker 1>we were trying to talk about. Okay, right, do you

1059
00:51:01.440 --> 00:51:04.280
<v Speaker 1>communicate with Gabrielle And she goes, yeah, she called me

1060
00:51:04.360 --> 00:51:06.280
<v Speaker 1>the other night, Yeah we do. She goes, I just

1061
00:51:06.320 --> 00:51:08.559
<v Speaker 1>have money. She goes, I just have so much compassion

1062
00:51:08.599 --> 00:51:12.840
<v Speaker 1>for her, and Seladad goes, Okay, but there's a gap

1063
00:51:12.920 --> 00:51:15.519
<v Speaker 1>between I have empathy for you and I love you

1064
00:51:15.559 --> 00:51:18.239
<v Speaker 1>as a human too. I want to have sex with you.

1065
00:51:19.360 --> 00:51:21.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, there's a real big gap.

1066
00:51:21.599 --> 00:51:23.440
<v Speaker 1>There's a real big gap there, and Angel goes, Okay, well,

1067
00:51:23.480 --> 00:51:26.119
<v Speaker 1>let me make this clear. I love her and I

1068
00:51:26.159 --> 00:51:29.400
<v Speaker 1>have not stopped loving her. So let's not compare that

1069
00:51:29.480 --> 00:51:32.519
<v Speaker 1>to like the sexual kissing and stuff and all that's real.

1070
00:51:32.679 --> 00:51:35.480
<v Speaker 1>And you know, now, I literally have struggles trying to

1071
00:51:35.559 --> 00:51:38.880
<v Speaker 1>date other people because I think of Gabrielle. I fell

1072
00:51:38.920 --> 00:51:41.559
<v Speaker 1>in love with her soul. And even though people make

1073
00:51:41.639 --> 00:51:44.800
<v Speaker 1>mistakes and do drugs and do crazy stuff, I don't

1074
00:51:44.800 --> 00:51:46.119
<v Speaker 1>think they're undeserving the love.

1075
00:51:46.960 --> 00:51:49.079
<v Speaker 3>Now, why are y'all not together anymore? This is my

1076
00:51:49.159 --> 00:51:52.880
<v Speaker 3>first most definitely data prisoner. She was on and on

1077
00:51:52.920 --> 00:51:55.840
<v Speaker 3>and on about we're going to end up together. She's

1078
00:51:55.880 --> 00:51:58.079
<v Speaker 3>gonna come here, I'm going to go there. This is

1079
00:51:58.079 --> 00:52:00.280
<v Speaker 3>the love of my life. It's all worth it. I

1080
00:52:00.360 --> 00:52:03.079
<v Speaker 3>blew up this whole thing. It's all worth it because

1081
00:52:03.119 --> 00:52:05.599
<v Speaker 3>this is my one love of my life. And now

1082
00:52:05.639 --> 00:52:08.880
<v Speaker 3>she's like, I'm having a hard time dating other people. Well,

1083
00:52:09.639 --> 00:52:12.119
<v Speaker 3>I thought this was your girlfriend. And you know, I

1084
00:52:12.119 --> 00:52:16.519
<v Speaker 3>creeped on Gabrielle's face, I mean Instagram Gabrielle's Yeah.

1085
00:52:16.840 --> 00:52:21.400
<v Speaker 1>Oh so she's out. Yeah, Okay, we gotta talk about

1086
00:52:21.400 --> 00:52:22.719
<v Speaker 1>it next week. You can't talk about it, then I'll

1087
00:52:22.719 --> 00:52:24.199
<v Speaker 1>send it to you. I thought, I'll send you her

1088
00:52:24.239 --> 00:52:29.679
<v Speaker 1>pagehot did, but we'll talk about it next week, okay, Okay.

1089
00:52:30.320 --> 00:52:33.719
<v Speaker 1>So then she says, yeah, you know, I lied, man,

1090
00:52:33.880 --> 00:52:36.920
<v Speaker 1>I lied and manipulated. No wait, she says, no, wait,

1091
00:52:37.119 --> 00:52:40.800
<v Speaker 1>she lied, man. She manipulated me and deceived me. Did

1092
00:52:41.840 --> 00:52:45.400
<v Speaker 1>which is interesting because she before she she acted like

1093
00:52:45.440 --> 00:52:49.559
<v Speaker 1>when Gabrielle told that that wasn't manipulating and deceive me.

1094
00:52:49.679 --> 00:52:52.280
<v Speaker 1>But now she's seeing it a little clearer. She goes, yeah,

1095
00:52:52.360 --> 00:52:55.039
<v Speaker 1>she lies, she manipulated me, she deceived me. But yeah,

1096
00:52:55.199 --> 00:52:58.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, I could see, like with Stephanie, that's how

1097
00:52:58.400 --> 00:53:00.480
<v Speaker 1>it goes, because you don't have to be an inmate

1098
00:53:00.480 --> 00:53:04.239
<v Speaker 1>to lie and to see even manipulate people. No shade

1099
00:53:04.239 --> 00:53:04.880
<v Speaker 1>to you, Stephanie.

1100
00:53:04.960 --> 00:53:07.199
<v Speaker 2>I was like, that's just that's a little bit of shade.

1101
00:53:08.000 --> 00:53:09.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean, she just got called a sociopath, so can't

1102
00:53:09.920 --> 00:53:10.280
<v Speaker 1>get much.

1103
00:53:10.519 --> 00:53:12.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was like a little bit of palm tree

1104
00:53:12.639 --> 00:53:14.679
<v Speaker 2>shade right there. Yeah.

1105
00:53:14.719 --> 00:53:19.119
<v Speaker 1>So Stephanie goes, I did not trust Gabby one bit,

1106
00:53:19.679 --> 00:53:23.440
<v Speaker 1>not one bet. And I told her I think she

1107
00:53:24.280 --> 00:53:26.880
<v Speaker 1>was like, this is a girl is a lifetime prisoner. Yeah,

1108
00:53:27.039 --> 00:53:30.199
<v Speaker 1>you don't think she's working this system. And she did.

1109
00:53:30.400 --> 00:53:33.199
<v Speaker 2>And I think every time she calls Angelai it's sue as.

1110
00:53:33.280 --> 00:53:37.599
<v Speaker 1>For money, probably, And still the dad says, now, how

1111
00:53:37.639 --> 00:53:39.679
<v Speaker 1>do you have sex with six other people in the room.

1112
00:53:40.239 --> 00:53:43.559
<v Speaker 1>The officers don't care. Everybody goes, oh no, no, no,

1113
00:53:43.599 --> 00:53:46.320
<v Speaker 1>they just build a tenth officers don't care, and Jacqueline goes,

1114
00:53:46.639 --> 00:53:49.760
<v Speaker 1>nobody cares. They build their tent. They say, bring your mat,

1115
00:53:49.840 --> 00:53:52.280
<v Speaker 1>spend the night. It happened in our room. All the time.

1116
00:53:52.519 --> 00:53:54.719
<v Speaker 1>They'd lay on the floors and do it. They didn't care,

1117
00:53:55.280 --> 00:53:57.360
<v Speaker 1>and the officers would give them their time. But at

1118
00:53:57.400 --> 00:53:58.800
<v Speaker 1>roll call they had to send him back.

1119
00:54:00.199 --> 00:54:03.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they can miss me with that. I don't I

1120
00:54:03.480 --> 00:54:05.199
<v Speaker 2>don't want that. I don't want that life.

1121
00:54:05.639 --> 00:54:09.159
<v Speaker 1>So Sephanie goes, everybody has a girlfriend and the women's

1122
00:54:09.159 --> 00:54:14.280
<v Speaker 1>pod everybody everybody did you, I'd like to know Sephanie's experience.

1123
00:54:14.480 --> 00:54:18.239
<v Speaker 1>She didn't like she did too, And then talking ahead,

1124
00:54:18.280 --> 00:54:20.719
<v Speaker 1>the guys are like, no, it is not the same

1125
00:54:20.760 --> 00:54:23.960
<v Speaker 1>in the men's any kind of homosexual homosexuality or a

1126
00:54:24.039 --> 00:54:27.599
<v Speaker 1>hint at it is not accepted. Everything that's very homophobic.

1127
00:54:28.960 --> 00:54:32.239
<v Speaker 1>So interesting from our love after lock up people, we

1128
00:54:32.320 --> 00:54:33.679
<v Speaker 1>have seen people that have been in and out of

1129
00:54:33.719 --> 00:54:36.840
<v Speaker 1>jail that are gay or gay for stay than the

1130
00:54:36.920 --> 00:54:40.320
<v Speaker 1>men are, And I wonder if that is more that

1131
00:54:40.360 --> 00:54:42.679
<v Speaker 1>happens in prison. And since this is Jay the.

1132
00:54:42.719 --> 00:54:48.000
<v Speaker 3>Prison, prison, everything just changes. Like people actually say, you

1133
00:54:48.039 --> 00:54:49.880
<v Speaker 3>don't want to be in jail. If you have to,

1134
00:54:50.159 --> 00:54:51.519
<v Speaker 3>prison is a better place to be?

1135
00:54:51.920 --> 00:54:52.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you are.

1136
00:54:52.760 --> 00:54:53.079
<v Speaker 2>Prison.

1137
00:54:53.239 --> 00:54:56.760
<v Speaker 3>Jail just fucking sucks. So I think everything just totally changes.

1138
00:54:56.440 --> 00:54:57.320
<v Speaker 2>Once you go to prison.

1139
00:54:57.800 --> 00:55:02.559
<v Speaker 1>Because remember Michael and the cute guy that was like

1140
00:55:02.559 --> 00:55:05.519
<v Speaker 1>for Minnesota, Joey Joey, because we always saw Joe's Sam

1141
00:55:05.559 --> 00:55:07.920
<v Speaker 1>should be Michael and michaels Zam should be Joey. Joey

1142
00:55:07.960 --> 00:55:09.400
<v Speaker 1>was on the outside. Michael was that got on the

1143
00:55:09.400 --> 00:55:12.719
<v Speaker 1>inside and he was almost like he thrived because he's

1144
00:55:12.760 --> 00:55:15.639
<v Speaker 1>almost like an escort on the outside and on.

1145
00:55:15.599 --> 00:55:18.360
<v Speaker 3>The inside he was like the king pin of dick

1146
00:55:18.599 --> 00:55:20.159
<v Speaker 3>in there like he loved it.

1147
00:55:20.320 --> 00:55:22.519
<v Speaker 1>He was like, I get my bed, I watched my TV,

1148
00:55:22.800 --> 00:55:27.519
<v Speaker 1>I have my routine. Yeah, yeah, that he could get

1149
00:55:27.960 --> 00:55:29.960
<v Speaker 1>all the dick he could get. And even if guys

1150
00:55:29.960 --> 00:55:31.000
<v Speaker 1>are gay, they're like, oh, I.

1151
00:55:31.199 --> 00:55:33.119
<v Speaker 2>Don't know, I'm here, I ain't got nothing else to do.

1152
00:55:33.239 --> 00:55:38.199
<v Speaker 1>The whole hole. So, so Dad, I know, I'm sorry.

1153
00:55:38.639 --> 00:55:40.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry. I mean, I love it. I just can't

1154
00:55:40.920 --> 00:55:44.960
<v Speaker 1>believe you said it. I'm getting worse. So sola Dad

1155
00:55:45.360 --> 00:55:48.000
<v Speaker 1>asked Colonel Adjur, are you surprised about all this like

1156
00:55:48.360 --> 00:55:51.440
<v Speaker 1>sex stuff, and he goes, no, I'm not surprised about it,

1157
00:55:51.480 --> 00:55:54.239
<v Speaker 1>but I do worry about the complacency of my staff,

1158
00:55:55.719 --> 00:56:01.079
<v Speaker 1>he says. In prison, men use relationships for power and

1159
00:56:01.119 --> 00:56:06.559
<v Speaker 1>women use relationships to make family. Right. Yeah, So solo

1160
00:56:06.639 --> 00:56:10.360
<v Speaker 1>Dad says to Angelae, Okay, so you felt bad about

1161
00:56:10.360 --> 00:56:13.440
<v Speaker 1>deceiving Gabrielle, and she goes, I felt bad about deceiving

1162
00:56:13.440 --> 00:56:16.760
<v Speaker 1>everybody man, and Soladad goes, well, you could have given

1163
00:56:16.800 --> 00:56:19.559
<v Speaker 1>the signal and left and that would have stopped deceiving everybody.

1164
00:56:19.840 --> 00:56:21.880
<v Speaker 1>You could have left, She says, I could have, but

1165
00:56:21.960 --> 00:56:24.719
<v Speaker 1>I didn't. And you see Boochie looking at her like

1166
00:56:24.760 --> 00:56:26.519
<v Speaker 1>she's crazy. He's just like girl.

1167
00:56:26.360 --> 00:56:29.079
<v Speaker 3>Because she's acting like a thirteen year old who just

1168
00:56:29.159 --> 00:56:32.880
<v Speaker 3>doesn't get anything at like nothing. Yeah, she won't take

1169
00:56:32.880 --> 00:56:36.480
<v Speaker 3>accountability for anything that she's done, period, and yet she

1170
00:56:36.519 --> 00:56:38.840
<v Speaker 3>has off with everyone else because they live in reality.

1171
00:56:39.239 --> 00:56:40.599
<v Speaker 1>And she goes, I'm not gonna act like I'm a

1172
00:56:40.599 --> 00:56:44.760
<v Speaker 1>perfect person with a perfect life, perfect life, And Matt goes,

1173
00:56:45.000 --> 00:56:47.159
<v Speaker 1>but here's the thing. You do something really bad, and

1174
00:56:47.199 --> 00:56:51.880
<v Speaker 1>your excuses, your excuses. You're a human, And Solo Dad says,

1175
00:56:51.960 --> 00:56:55.440
<v Speaker 1>do you have regrets? And she goes, no, and I should,

1176
00:56:55.440 --> 00:57:01.320
<v Speaker 1>but I don't, and Johnny goes, listen, Emmanuel's out here

1177
00:57:01.320 --> 00:57:03.360
<v Speaker 1>has babies, and these babies are waiting for him to

1178
00:57:03.360 --> 00:57:05.480
<v Speaker 1>get home, and you put him at risk of daddy

1179
00:57:05.800 --> 00:57:08.760
<v Speaker 1>not coming home. It's okay to say you're sorry and

1180
00:57:08.800 --> 00:57:11.960
<v Speaker 1>have regret like it's okay yeah, And Solo Dad says,

1181
00:57:12.000 --> 00:57:14.920
<v Speaker 1>I just don't understand how you say you don't have

1182
00:57:14.960 --> 00:57:17.480
<v Speaker 1>any regret. You have a group of people here that

1183
00:57:17.519 --> 00:57:21.840
<v Speaker 1>you let down and not accidentally. Yeah, And Matt goes,

1184
00:57:21.960 --> 00:57:25.960
<v Speaker 1>here's the thing. She's got street pride, and that's good,

1185
00:57:26.039 --> 00:57:28.320
<v Speaker 1>but if you want to apologize to us, it has

1186
00:57:28.360 --> 00:57:31.360
<v Speaker 1>to come with regret, and apology. With no regret, it's

1187
00:57:31.400 --> 00:57:36.039
<v Speaker 1>gonna ring hollow to us. And everybody nods, and Emanuel goes,

1188
00:57:36.079 --> 00:57:38.119
<v Speaker 1>it's okay to say you have regret like there's nothing

1189
00:57:38.159 --> 00:57:41.719
<v Speaker 1>wrong with saying it, and you can grow from it,

1190
00:57:41.760 --> 00:57:44.239
<v Speaker 1>and she goes, okay, guys, I have regrets.

1191
00:57:44.480 --> 00:57:47.079
<v Speaker 3>But it wasn't since there she had been peer pressured

1192
00:57:47.119 --> 00:57:48.480
<v Speaker 3>into apologizing.

1193
00:57:48.679 --> 00:57:51.239
<v Speaker 1>I think they're mean. You know how awful you're gonna

1194
00:57:51.280 --> 00:57:52.559
<v Speaker 1>look on TV is with run.

1195
00:57:52.480 --> 00:57:54.280
<v Speaker 2>So she's looking pretty damn bad right now.

1196
00:57:54.599 --> 00:57:57.360
<v Speaker 1>And Soladad goes, Okay, so you were pushed into saying that,

1197
00:57:57.719 --> 00:58:00.760
<v Speaker 1>and she goes, and sola Dad goes. You're an interesting

1198
00:58:00.760 --> 00:58:03.519
<v Speaker 1>conundrum to me. You're a very street wise young lady,

1199
00:58:03.559 --> 00:58:06.880
<v Speaker 1>but at the same time you're ridiculously naive she is,

1200
00:58:07.719 --> 00:58:11.039
<v Speaker 1>and she goes, Okay. Look, I do want to genuinely apologize.

1201
00:58:11.079 --> 00:58:14.599
<v Speaker 1>I was naive to fall in love growing up. Growing up,

1202
00:58:14.639 --> 00:58:18.039
<v Speaker 1>my brother and I lacked any love. So if I'm

1203
00:58:18.079 --> 00:58:20.960
<v Speaker 1>being one hundred, when I get love, I really hold

1204
00:58:21.000 --> 00:58:23.800
<v Speaker 1>on to it, even though I don't know if it's

1205
00:58:23.840 --> 00:58:26.360
<v Speaker 1>clearly what this should look like. I know it's not justified,

1206
00:58:26.800 --> 00:58:29.280
<v Speaker 1>and so I get that, like she and her brother

1207
00:58:29.519 --> 00:58:31.679
<v Speaker 1>grew up with no love in their family, have parents

1208
00:58:31.679 --> 00:58:33.800
<v Speaker 1>that were awful to them, and so when she gets

1209
00:58:33.920 --> 00:58:36.679
<v Speaker 1>somebody that loves her, she just clings onto it desperately.

1210
00:58:36.760 --> 00:58:39.199
<v Speaker 2>I don't I don't even think that it's love. It's attention.

1211
00:58:40.719 --> 00:58:44.119
<v Speaker 2>M Okay, yeah, I think it's any kind.

1212
00:58:43.960 --> 00:58:46.519
<v Speaker 3>Of attention, like, Okay, this person gave me attention today,

1213
00:58:46.559 --> 00:58:48.280
<v Speaker 3>they're paying attention to me tomorrow.

1214
00:58:48.519 --> 00:58:51.079
<v Speaker 2>And she had quite said with love somehow.

1215
00:58:51.280 --> 00:58:53.440
<v Speaker 1>And remember how when she first went in, she's just

1216
00:58:53.480 --> 00:58:56.519
<v Speaker 1>sort of didn't know how attractive she would be to

1217
00:58:56.599 --> 00:58:59.480
<v Speaker 1>all these women. And she was so like, oh my gosh,

1218
00:58:59.519 --> 00:59:01.719
<v Speaker 1>I didn't ex grabody's gonna think I was so cute,

1219
00:59:02.000 --> 00:59:05.039
<v Speaker 1>you know, as she loved that shit, and she loved it,

1220
00:59:05.480 --> 00:59:07.480
<v Speaker 1>and it would be, you know, in a fucked up way,

1221
00:59:07.519 --> 00:59:09.079
<v Speaker 1>like an ego boost to go in there, and like

1222
00:59:09.199 --> 00:59:11.360
<v Speaker 1>everybody wants to be your girlfriend, right, you know.

1223
00:59:11.440 --> 00:59:13.400
<v Speaker 2>And then here's this hot girl that comes well, I.

1224
00:59:13.320 --> 00:59:16.679
<v Speaker 1>Mean yeah in the prison scheme's a.

1225
00:59:17.920 --> 00:59:20.639
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and this person is paying attention to me too.

1226
00:59:21.440 --> 00:59:24.639
<v Speaker 3>Oh okay, this is what I've been looking for my

1227
00:59:24.679 --> 00:59:27.320
<v Speaker 3>whole entire life, all right here in this prison cell.

1228
00:59:27.719 --> 00:59:30.280
<v Speaker 3>And she just blew everything up because of.

1229
00:59:30.280 --> 00:59:34.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and she goes, uh, I know, I know I'm immature,

1230
00:59:34.320 --> 00:59:36.079
<v Speaker 1>and i know I'm impulsive, and I've been trying to

1231
00:59:36.079 --> 00:59:38.239
<v Speaker 1>get some counseling. So that's that's good.

1232
00:59:38.360 --> 00:59:39.079
<v Speaker 2>That's a good thing.

1233
00:59:39.400 --> 00:59:42.559
<v Speaker 1>And Jacqueline goes, look, everybody's falling for the wrong person

1234
00:59:42.599 --> 00:59:45.199
<v Speaker 1>at the wrong time, like we get that. But you know,

1235
00:59:45.519 --> 00:59:49.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm grateful I was gone when it happened, because if

1236
00:59:49.440 --> 00:59:51.840
<v Speaker 1>they found out it was you, they would have instantly

1237
00:59:51.840 --> 00:59:54.639
<v Speaker 1>thought it was me, and I couldn't defend myself against that.

1238
00:59:54.760 --> 00:59:55.920
<v Speaker 1>So I'm not mad at you.

1239
00:59:55.920 --> 00:59:56.119
<v Speaker 2>You know.

1240
00:59:56.280 --> 00:59:58.960
<v Speaker 3>And there they were already coming after Jacqueline, so this

1241
00:59:59.000 --> 01:00:00.880
<v Speaker 3>would not have been good for her at all.

1242
01:00:01.000 --> 01:00:02.599
<v Speaker 2>She would have been in immediate danger.

1243
01:00:02.840 --> 01:00:04.679
<v Speaker 1>Yes, they would have jumped to her before the guards

1244
01:00:04.679 --> 01:00:09.519
<v Speaker 1>could have gotten there and everything. So Matt goes, Huh,

1245
01:00:09.559 --> 01:00:13.400
<v Speaker 1>I got in trouble for peeing in a cup, he says,

1246
01:00:13.559 --> 01:00:15.760
<v Speaker 1>because they say, is there any parting words? And Matt says,

1247
01:00:15.920 --> 01:00:17.920
<v Speaker 1>I'd like to set the recorstrate about the pee and

1248
01:00:17.920 --> 01:00:22.559
<v Speaker 1>in the cup. Matt does not know how much worse

1249
01:00:22.639 --> 01:00:24.119
<v Speaker 1>he made this for himself.

1250
01:00:24.400 --> 01:00:26.159
<v Speaker 2>He didn't, No, he didn't.

1251
01:00:26.880 --> 01:00:28.440
<v Speaker 1>He goes, I want to set the record straight. So

1252
01:00:28.559 --> 01:00:30.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm an old guy. If they give you the pants,

1253
01:00:31.000 --> 01:00:33.159
<v Speaker 1>the pants are oversized, and you know, you try to

1254
01:00:33.320 --> 01:00:35.719
<v Speaker 1>pull your pants down to go, and you know, apparently

1255
01:00:35.760 --> 01:00:39.119
<v Speaker 1>I've got a big prostrate, and you know, as an

1256
01:00:39.119 --> 01:00:42.039
<v Speaker 1>old guy, you get two streams. One goes in the toilet,

1257
01:00:42.119 --> 01:00:45.119
<v Speaker 1>one goes down your pants, and so i'de and I'd

1258
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<v Speaker 1>pee my pants. So what I figured out what the

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<v Speaker 1>solution was if I just basically stick my dick in

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<v Speaker 1>a cup, so the two streams go in the cup.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought going in the cup was better, and Azure goes,

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<v Speaker 1>you're right, man, this was TMI t M I.

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<v Speaker 2>So not only was.

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<v Speaker 3>He talking around looking like a grease ball, he was

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<v Speaker 3>walking around smelling like pissed too.

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<v Speaker 1>He goes, I'm mortified by this. I'm mortified with this.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to I don't just like to pee

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<v Speaker 1>in the cup now. So I understood his story. If

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<v Speaker 1>he has a pee prostate problem, any peas and some

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01:01:16.599 --> 01:01:18.559
<v Speaker 1>goes down his leg, and he doesn't want to have

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<v Speaker 1>to like fully take his pants down every time he peas,

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<v Speaker 1>he can't just like whip it out like a guy

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<v Speaker 1>can do. I understand all of this, but there's got

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<v Speaker 1>to be another solution. Ball up some toilet paper under

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<v Speaker 1>your winger. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Here's the thing. We could have just never known about it.

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<v Speaker 3>We could have thought about this again. Yeah, no, there

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<v Speaker 3>was no need to know.

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't even ask him about it. He brings it up.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because he's an attention whore. He needed the attention

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<v Speaker 3>to be back on him before they ended the show.

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<v Speaker 3>You're right, and that's how they ended the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we had a little bit more, so Boochie says,

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<v Speaker 1>because there are like any last words you want to say,

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<v Speaker 1>and Emmanuel goes, I was really passionate about helping those

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<v Speaker 1>in gangs, and I feel that I came out of

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01:02:00.960 --> 01:02:04.000
<v Speaker 1>this with a lot of positivity, a lot of achievements

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01:02:04.039 --> 01:02:06.360
<v Speaker 1>and success. I was like, I don't know who you

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01:02:06.360 --> 01:02:08.679
<v Speaker 1>think you helped in there, because we didn't see not

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01:02:08.760 --> 01:02:12.239
<v Speaker 1>a soul, not like Andrew. Andrew could be like I

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01:02:12.280 --> 01:02:14.039
<v Speaker 1>really helped a guy learn how to read like that

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01:02:14.119 --> 01:02:18.480
<v Speaker 1>was something. Yeah. Yeah, So Angela says, this experience forced

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<v Speaker 1>me to grow up. And since I've been out, I've

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<v Speaker 1>been very involved in my community, and I've been working

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<v Speaker 1>at a shelter for battered women and also working at

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<v Speaker 1>a shelter for women and men previously incarcerated. Okay, that's good.

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<v Speaker 3>I just as long as you don't fall in love

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<v Speaker 3>with one of the women in the shelter.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh but for sure, she's probably already married to somebody.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you know it, So Sola Dad says, I

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<v Speaker 1>just want to know, you know, from all of you,

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01:02:42.960 --> 01:02:45.599
<v Speaker 1>was it worth it? And they all say yes. And

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<v Speaker 1>the colonel says, doing this program is the only way

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<v Speaker 1>to get the system's attention. On my side. My staff

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01:02:53.480 --> 01:02:56.440
<v Speaker 1>works under very stressful conditions, and I'm going to use

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01:02:56.480 --> 01:03:00.159
<v Speaker 1>this to augment their training. We see that see of

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<v Speaker 1>him working talking to the officers on the show at

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<v Speaker 1>the end where he tells them it was sixty days

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<v Speaker 1>in and we found this crack in a crack right

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<v Speaker 1>and he says Solidad says, was the staff upset? And

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<v Speaker 1>he goes, no, they've been surprisingly positive about the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 1>He says. The first thing we have to do is

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<v Speaker 1>to address the contract band issue. He literally says, they

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<v Speaker 1>found somebody smuggling a gun in a cavity. I just

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<v Speaker 1>what cavity he been. I don't want to know what

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01:03:32.800 --> 01:03:34.719
<v Speaker 1>cavity and what size of gun.

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<v Speaker 3>I hope like the world's smallest keychain size gun.

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<v Speaker 1>It has to be.

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<v Speaker 2>It has to be.

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<v Speaker 1>It has to be. And he says, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the staff, because they see so much, they are desensitized

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<v Speaker 1>to the inmates. And I think that's definitely true.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't understand that. Yeah, And he.

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<v Speaker 1>Says, well, we need to help them get resensitized to them,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. He thanks Colonel Etre, thanks everybody for their participation,

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01:04:02.360 --> 01:04:05.039
<v Speaker 1>and Matt goes a question. So Matt does get back.

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<v Speaker 1>At the end, he goes, we're asked to do it again?

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<v Speaker 1>Would you do it again? Emmanuel, Stephanie, Johnny, Jacqueline, and Andrew.

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01:04:13.079 --> 01:04:16.320
<v Speaker 1>I'll say yes, but not Nate. He's like, I did

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<v Speaker 1>this twice?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you fucking kidding? No? No, no, thank You're gonna

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01:04:19.039 --> 01:04:20.280
<v Speaker 2>have to pay me a whole lot more.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's where we ended. And the next week what

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<v Speaker 1>we get is six months later.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't a preview for that.

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<v Speaker 1>H Like I said, I had to watch it. So

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<v Speaker 1>I did, because normally would I do on the weekend,

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<v Speaker 1>as I watch one of my shows, I have to

1339
01:04:35.800 --> 01:04:37.760
<v Speaker 1>take notes on for Sunday, But then I catch up

1340
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<v Speaker 1>on my dateline episodes. We haven't had any new date lines.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh because of the holidays. I blame Keith Morrison.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh oh boy, talk Keith.

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<v Speaker 1>So we got one more episode, guys, we got one

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01:04:50.199 --> 01:04:53.119
<v Speaker 1>more episode. And it's the six months later, and we

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<v Speaker 1>will go through that, probably a little faster than this

1346
01:04:55.599 --> 01:04:58.159
<v Speaker 1>because I knowing now I've watched it now, it's not

1347
01:04:58.360 --> 01:05:01.079
<v Speaker 1>just tons to talk about. But what we are going

1348
01:05:01.159 --> 01:05:04.559
<v Speaker 1>to do is be up on everything in any Instagram

1349
01:05:04.679 --> 01:05:06.920
<v Speaker 1>or anything you find, Kisha, send me so I can

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01:05:07.000 --> 01:05:08.880
<v Speaker 1>put that in my slide show.

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01:05:09.599 --> 01:05:12.039
<v Speaker 2>We'll do, and we'll do most definitely.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody, thank you very much for being here, and thank

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01:05:16.079 --> 01:05:18.400
<v Speaker 1>you for loving this show with us. And even if

1354
01:05:18.440 --> 01:05:20.880
<v Speaker 1>you've not been loving this show, thank you for sticking

1355
01:05:20.880 --> 01:05:23.159
<v Speaker 1>with us during Buckshop Monday, loved your and lock Up

1356
01:05:23.159 --> 01:05:26.159
<v Speaker 1>and got not next week but the week after the

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01:05:26.199 --> 01:05:29.079
<v Speaker 1>show comes out on the sixteenth, and our show will

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01:05:29.440 --> 01:05:32.679
<v Speaker 1>be here on Monday the nineteenth. Love during lock Up

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01:05:32.920 --> 01:05:36.800
<v Speaker 1>season whatever, four hundred and twelve, episode six hundred and

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01:05:36.840 --> 01:05:39.960
<v Speaker 1>eighty two, however, they're gonna do it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's you know what It's like. Rabbit does the

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01:05:44.519 --> 01:05:46.199
<v Speaker 3>cataloging of the show.

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<v Speaker 1>We see you know, Keisha, I feel like I feel

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01:05:52.559 --> 01:05:54.519
<v Speaker 1>like I've Abit. Yeah, there we go.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry, Long live Rabbit. I think rabbits do live

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01:05:58.480 --> 01:05:59.039
<v Speaker 3>a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>I should have should have brought him up when we

1368
01:06:01.920 --> 01:06:07.000
<v Speaker 1>were talking about the teeth, but you know, I had

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01:06:07.079 --> 01:06:08.599
<v Speaker 1>him pretty quick though, I had him pretty quick.

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01:06:08.719 --> 01:06:11.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Rabbit, you have Rabbit We.

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<v Speaker 1>Love you guys, thank you very much. Make sure you're

1372
01:06:12.840 --> 01:06:15.159
<v Speaker 1>following us on social media. You can get the story

1373
01:06:15.480 --> 01:06:19.039
<v Speaker 1>of uh Keisha's step granddad being a lot like Mary

1374
01:06:19.039 --> 01:06:23.039
<v Speaker 1>Cosby step granddad, some real story. So following us over

1375
01:06:23.079 --> 01:06:25.480
<v Speaker 1>there Pink Shade Pod and the Leaver a lounge with

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<v Speaker 1>Keisha and we will see you on Wednesday for Welcome

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01:06:28.199 --> 01:06:29.280
<v Speaker 1>to black Belt. Okay Mike
