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Speaker 1: It is time for little college basketball talk.
Speaker 3: Should there be an age cap on basketball players or
football players for that matter, playing collegiately. They've discussed in
the NC double A the five for five, right, so
there's no red shirt, it's just you get five years
to play. Does that infringe on constitutional rights or even
the ability the ability to make money off of your talents,
your abilities, your name, your image, your likeness at the
collegiate level.
Speaker 1: Is college sports professionalism? It is? Right?
Speaker 3: Does that mean there's a cap on professionalism if you're
a doctor, if you're in any sort of profession and
you're qualified to be in that particular specialty, is there
like a cap in the market that says you can't
continue to compete at in.
Speaker 1: Your field anyways?
Speaker 3: It there's a lot of questions right now in college athletics,
and one of the questions is how old is too old?
If you've already played professional basketball, should you be able
to play college basketball?
Speaker 1: What's the deal here? What's the legality of it?
Speaker 3: Tom Izzo has some things to say about it, the
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Tommy Zoe pontificating on the basketball players that have played
professionally in the G League and are able to play
college basketball.
Speaker 4: You know, I'm going to get myself in trouble, but
I I.
Speaker 1: Listen to people talk how kids changed.
Speaker 4: Kids aren't the problem, We're the problem. This was sprung
on us again yesterday where a guy can be in
the G League for two or three years and then
all of a sudden he's eligible. Most of my people
knew nothing about it. I don't think our commissioner. I mean,
I'm not real excited about the NCAA or whoever's making
these decisions without talking to us, just letting it go
because they're afraid they're gonna get sued. So you're right.
I said that this really bothers your coach if you're
a Michigan State fans. But if you want a silver
lining in a cloud, I am gonna call magic tonight.
I'm gonna Callee Jared Jackson, Miles, Gary Max. You know,
this just goes to show you how ridiculous people.
Speaker 1: That are in power make decisions.
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, and I'm gonna get killed because
someone's gonna say, well, if they go pro it doesn't
work out, shouldn't they be able to come back?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 4: What about the freshmen you recruited there? That's somebody's son
and he thinks he's got himself a good place, and
then all of a sudden, shazam, they pull out of
their hat and bring a twenty one or twenty two
year old in To me, it's ridiculous. To me, it's embarrassing.
And I love my job. I don't respect my profession
and I don't respect who's ever doing that, whoever made
those decisions because they're afraid that a lawyer is going
to sue them. Sooner or later, you're gonna fight the fight.
And you know, somebody's if we would have been aware
of it, if somebody would have talked to us, maybe
it's me, Maybe I'm the dummy, but I'll never agree
to that stuff. I think we're really hurting the freshman
in high school, I mean, the seniors in high school,
giving them a chance, and we're just gonna what's the
age limit?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 4: Is it thirty? You know, if you have three beards
and two mustaches, are you illegal? You're not allowed to play?
Speaker 1: I mean, what is it going to be?
Speaker 4: And so, yeah, you hit a sore spot for me
because the transfer portal is enough. You know, we have
no rules and now we're just taken no rules and
had some more no rules. And if everybody likes that,
that's good. And I feel bad if a kid came out.
Maybe we shouldn't come out early. Maybe we should do
a better job of helping kids make decisions. Said decisions
they make and then oh boy, I made a bad decision,
so I'll go back. But the unintended consequences are the
kids that are there. We'll now get screwed and not
have an opportunity, and then they'll be transferring, and then
we'll have this circle. So I cannot I do not
know everything about it. I cannot believe that this was
sprung on us yesterday. And if it was done earlier
and I didn't know about it, shame on me. But
my compliance officer didn't know. There are people in this
league didn't know. The NCAA's got to regroup.
Speaker 1: They got to regroup. That's my opinion, only my opinions.
Speaker 4: Don't be mad at anybody else to be mad at us,
but I'm not gonna be mad at the players. I'm
gonna mad at the adults in the room. And so
don't blame the players anymore. Whim the adults that make
the decisions that allows some of these ridiculous things to happen.
And then the unintended consequences hurt kids that are trying
to do it the right way with a process, not
jumping around. And that's my two cents, So put that
wherever you want.
Speaker 1: To, there you go.
Speaker 3: That is Tom Isel, legendary coach for the Michigan State Spartans.
Valid commentary. I do think his criticism is misplaced. I
don't think he understands the complexities of college athletics and
the professionalism that is here now in the modern era.
And I don't know if anyone sat down to it
and explained to him the legalities of restrictions. But every
time the NCAA or the universities collectively try to restrict eligibility,
more often than not, they're getting sued. It is state
driven and ultimately state decisions. I don't think any of
these has gone into like federal court, but like maybe
we have to lean on some of our legal advisors
here at ESPN.
Speaker 1: The fan.
Speaker 3: But he's complaining specifically about a Louisville basketball player that's
been playing in the G League for three years now
and now is going to be playing college basketball, and
I understand, I mean, look, this is valid criticism, Like
you don't want to be going against professional basketball players.
The problem is you can make more money in college
basketball than you can in the G League. You can
make more money in college basketball than you can overseas.
Universities and their donor bases are willing to pay more money,
significantly more money than the professional league's overseas and the
professional leagues not named the NBA.
Speaker 1: The G League. So what do you do.
Speaker 3: If there's no illegality to it, then you take advantage
of it.
Speaker 1: And if you do try.
Speaker 3: To enforce certain eligibility rules, you may get sued if
you're the NCAA or the institution. Ultimately, these institutions and
their donors are trying to win. They want to win,
and they want to win now under the free market
rules that we have right now, and so they're operating
within the rules, whether or not Tommyzo likes it or not.
And it makes the question, what's the difference between what's
his name, Landon London Johnson London Johnson and Mihailo Boskovic
or Alexi Coostik, who both played overseas professionally before coming
to b Wait, what's the difference between the G League
and international professional basketball?
Speaker 5: And I think that's the question because we haven't heard anyone.
Nobody had this issue when Yegor came over and Yegor
I had played eighteen, but he had been playing this
is true, but he's been playing in an academy league.
Speaker 1: True.
Speaker 3: But the idea that you're still playing at some kind
of profess I have no idea, but I do know.
I imagine he's getting paid. Yeah, probably, Yeah, I do.
I do believe it was professional at that level. So,
but the idea that you could play at a professional
level and then come to college basketball.
Speaker 1: It's funny because when Kevin Young.
Speaker 5: Has done it, and when Boi used that, and we've
been like, hey, this is so cool, like what a
new thing for college basketball. But now when it's something
that we're more familiar with, and I think that's really
what's what we're talking about here, is we don't interact
with euro League basketball that much, and so that doesn't
necessarily come with the same connotation as somebody who's coming
from the G League, which is essentially just minor league basketball.
That's what it is. That's what we're really talking about.
And I do see tom Izzo's point. I do find
it really interesting that he went on this long about
it at is media availability this week. It doesn't even
sound like he was asked about it. Sounds like this
was just part of his opening statement, and I think
that was what like four or five minutes like he
went off about this, So it's clearly an issue that
he holds. I think the problem that you run into,
and he alluded to this a little bit, is we
don't have rules. And as soon as you said, yeah,
we're cool with ANIL and yeah we're cool with the
transfer portal, it's it's.
Speaker 3: Really hard to put that genie back in the bottle.
It is really hard.
Speaker 5: Now to draw lines that a lot of people are
going to argue, well, that's arbitrary, and what and what
lines do you draw? Well, you can't say, oh, well,
if a guy's this old, then he can't come back.
And now we used to say this used to be
really easy, cut and dry, cause it used to be okay, cool,
you've taken money to play basketball. Cool, you can't play
at college anymore. And we all agree that college athletes
should get paid. But it's really hard now for you
to say, okay, well you're getting paid, but we're still
going to keep the sanctity of amateurism in college athletics.
When it's not really amateurism anymore. You're basically everything but
an employee. Of the university.
Speaker 3: So how do you draw a line that makes sense,
that doesn't already backtrack and cross a line that you
already drew.
Speaker 1: You've made this so complicated that.
Speaker 5: You really have a hard time finding a solution that
makes sense and works to solve this problem. Is it
weird that a guy's playing minor league basketball and now
he's going to be playing college next year? Sure, but also,
let's be honest about this. Do we really think if
here's because here's the other issue. If London Johnson was
that good that he's going to come to college and
average forty points a game, guess what, he wouldn't be
coming to college If he was that good, he would
still be in the NBA.
Speaker 3: I disagree because I think it's about money. I think
it's about money, you know what. I agree with that
it's just about money. Like I mean, you're gonna get there.
You only have a small window of time to make money.
And it is hard to go overseas as an American
born basketball player.
Speaker 1: There are quotas, there are.
Speaker 3: Limits of like only one foreigner per team, and so
there's limitations there. So unless you have connections over there
or like dual citizenship.
Speaker 1: Like you're just trying to make money.
Speaker 3: You're just trying to make a living, and in that
you know that that window of time it's gonna be
calling like it's gonna be short. It's not all that
line because your body's getting degrade and all those things.
Speaker 1: So the point money thing, and I agree, But.
Speaker 5: The point I'm making is this guy's been averaging three
points a game in the G League. It's not as
though Louisville has now picked up a ringer and now
they're gonna be die. That's the argument I'm making because
I agree with you about the money.
Speaker 6: When it comes to the solution here, the only thing
that I can think of, and I've thought in the
last five minutes, so take it, you know, for what
it's worth. When we're talking about the legality of restricting eligibility,
the only way I can think of you can come
up with something here is like you make it like
some companies have a limit on how long you can
be an intern right at their company, and then you
can't be the Internet. You're either hired or you're gone. Right, Sure,
you can't be the Internet. There's got it. The only
way I can think of some league legal way to
restrict eligibility as a partnership between the NBA and the NCAA,
saying you guys are interns for X amount of years, right,
and that's it, and then you can either go to
some other company, which would be another league, or you're hired,
you're picked up by.
Speaker 1: One of our teams. And the same thing with NFL
and football.
Speaker 6: That's the only way I can really think of some
somewhere a legality and you can go and they can say, hey,
you can either have four years in college basketball or
four years in the league or whatever.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean like from a G League standpoint though,
like you know, what was his what was his path again?
Speaker 1: Like did he where did he come? He went straight
from high school to the league.
Speaker 6: So he would kill the G League probably and maybe
the G League that well, So the NBA wouldn't be
incentivized to do that.
Speaker 1: Well, actually I think it does.
Speaker 6: I think it makes the G League what it was
supposed to be what it originally was, which is a
development league for those players that are But their argument
would be.
Speaker 1: We already have that, so why do we need college? Right?
So I agree there isn't a good solution.
Speaker 3: The reason why he went to the G League initially
in the first place is because there was more money
being paid out at that time, So he went to
where the money was. And now he's you know, he's
not overly productive there, but he hasn't he hasn't like
not developed. He has developed somewhat in the G League,
and now he's going to go back to Louisville and
make probably five hundred g's a year, which is significantly
more than he.
Speaker 1: Was making in the G leak.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but let's see, it would just make this solution,
I feel like, would just eliminate the players that are
going out of high school into the G League and
put them in college like we think it's intended to be,
and make the G League what it was before.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean, look, the free market's going to be the
free market. Sure, So that's the ultimate thing that I'm
getting at here, is like, whoever's willing to pay the
most to the person that is coming out of high school? Shoot,
you can be coming out of middle school and if
you're good enough, I guess we could go put playing
overseas or at the GLA. That's what you're seeing with Igor, right,
jeg or excuse me, like he was like in an
academy from like his youth.
Speaker 1: That's what happens.
Speaker 3: You're you're becoming a professional at an accelerated rate overseas.
Typically we just don't have that. We have AAU right here,
we have high school. Now you are capable of making
money nil money in high school depending on your state law,
which is kind of insane, Like you're not going to
let kids make money off their name, image and like
the just because they're in high school.
Speaker 1: Think of it. That's absurd, right, it's absurd. It's illegal.
Speaker 3: Like how is it that we have laws limiting like
earning ability.
Speaker 1: This is your talent, this is your ability.
Speaker 6: Like you can have laws on minors, mate saying you
can't work under this age, like you have those W two.
Speaker 5: But like you know, and then but they're not being
paid by the university. They're being paid in X and
I guess I guess they are a little bit now.
But like most of their money is coming in external endorsements,
so that doesn't even really factor ating to either endorsement.
For context, Jegor was playing professional basketball now. It was
their fourth tier league, but it was for all intents
and purposes, professional basketball, and none of us batted and
I or have any kind of problem with any of them.
Like the College of Basketball did restrict Ohilo's eligibility, he
only got two years because he'd been playing a certain
so one that Johnson is only getting two years of eligibility,
and I think that has to do with G League Ignite,
because while G League Ignite is a part of the
G League, it's supposed to be four kids who want
to bypass college and prepare for the NBA. So I
think that played into why he's only getting two years
of eligibility, but nonetheless he's still coming back to play.
Speaker 3: Earlier today, Josh Whitman, chair of the Division one Cabinet
and Director of Athletics at the University of Illinois, stated
this This is from the NCAA. During its October meeting,
the Division one Cabinet determined that for the remainder of
the current academic year and for the rosters competing during
the twenty twenty six and twenty twenty seven academic year,
it will maintain existing eligibility rules as they pertain to
student athletes competing in no more than four seasons of
athletics competition in a particular sport. Over a consecutive five
year period, so you get a red shirt and you
get four years of eligibility. There was a discussion about
five for five. The Cabinet is studying these policies, along
with several related eligibility issues, and will later consider what changes,
if any, to implement for future academic years when challenge
the current rules have been upheld by the overwhelming majority
of courts. The Cabinet understands, however, that the situation for
student athletes, coaches, and administrator remains untenable with rules changing
seemingly on a moment's notice because of any single court's
temporary ruling.
Speaker 1: And that's the thing.
Speaker 3: These are state rulings, and there's dynamics there and changing
all the time, which makes it untenable. Congress continues to
be the best form to protect these eligibility rules and
other academic standards while providing clarity for current and future
student athletes. As these situations demonstrate, we need bipartisan legislation
to empower that empowers college sports to set these basic
rules that support academics as a foundational purpose of the
collegiate of collegiate athletics. The problem with that rhetoric guys
like this student athletes. The majority of the student athletes
are full time athletes, not student athletes. The idea of
student athlete and our competitive like landscape, this uber hyper
supremely competitive landscape, is that they're allocating forty sixty eighty
hours a week to their athletics and very minimally to
their academics. Even when I was at BYU, I mean, yeah,
I was at full time student twelve credits, but like
I did not get the same education as the other
BYU students in those same classes because I was allocating
a ton of time, bandwidth, emotionally, physically, spiritually to my sport,
because my name was on the back of my jersey,
and I would be remembered not for my B plus
C plus as on that test or the homework assignment.
I was going to be remembered amongst all of kugarnation
by how I played on Saturday. You also aren't getting paid, though,
and I wasn't getting paid either, But like my reputation
as a football player and as a person was on
the line. I did not want my name to be
a hiss and a byword amongst Cougar fans everywhere, and
I'm immortalized for a negative, you know, negative thing, then
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of Utah Orthorposoutah dot com. Let's start off with this, Okay,
Bryan Santiago states that the world is watching. The entire
world is watching BYU right now. Why is that right?
Let's discuss it. This was what Brian Santiago told Spencer
excuse me, Jenerem Sjordan earlier today.
Speaker 7: And then we're here in Kansas City and I've had
multiple people walk up and say, Hey, what happened in
Broga on Saturday was unbelievable. Everybody's watching and I keep
saying that I feel like the world's watching BYU right now,
and I love that our teams are winning on the
biggest stage.
Speaker 1: Why is the whole world watching? Do you think AP?
Speaker 6: I think it's a combination of football and basketball. They
both both programs have risen at the same time. Neither
one of them were great in twenty twenty three, well,
well basketball was good. Basketball was good twenty twenty three
they made the tournament.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but twenty twenty two neither really had great years,
and both of them have risen at the same time.
Speaker 1: So there's two major sports seasons.
Speaker 6: I'd say in the United States, since it's football season,
it's basketball season. Baseball is cool and everything, but it's
definitely it takes the back seat. And so people tune
in for football season and basketball season, and when they're
tuning in for both athletics seasons and all they're and
they're hearing a lot about Wow, BYU's good, b Yu's
good football, b Why's good basketball? Both are surprising and
you're just seeing that all it's being shoved down the
throats of the casual consumer that hey, b Yu is
actually good at at athletics here. And then you continue
to sustain that success with the NIL buy in, and
you get the off season buzz that we've had the
past couple of years. With the NIL, you're getting big
ten players, you get the rob rights, the Aja Debon says,
and then you know you've get you get the transfers
out of the portal football too, and and you've the
casual fan has heard BYU a lot more in the
last two years than they did ever when BYU was
WCC independent.
Speaker 3: Sure, it's a great day to be a Cougar, and
the premier sports are at the forefront of the collegiate
sports world. Everybody's watching what will be? Why you do
with it? Speaking of everybody watching, you and CE Basketball's
coming to Salt Lake City to play BYU Friday, October
twenty fourth in an exhibition game. Everyone's going to be
watching this one as well. Let's listen to Brian Santiago discuss.
Speaker 7: But they contacted me and said, hey, North Carolina is
interested in coming out. I ran into Roy Williams at
the Final four and we talked a little bit about it,
and he said that he was going to go back
and talk to their coaching staff and see if they
were interested in it, and then a few weeks later
it came to fruition and so super super excited to
have a program like North Carolina come to the state
of Utah play in the Delta Center. We're super grateful
for Ryan Smith and all the Utah Jazz folks that
facilitated the game and looking forward to exciting night at basketball.
I mean, you're talking about some of the best players
in the country tipping off right and night in Salt
Lake City. For me, this time of year, when like
college football is heating up and you're right in the
middle of the race and college basketball is tipping off,
I mean, it doesn't get any better.
Speaker 3: Is indeed the most wonderful time of the year for many.
And you know, once again, eyeballs galore. Like the the
pace at which the press is having to cover the
BYU propaganda right now is.
Speaker 1: Insane.
Speaker 3: So shout out to the athletic department, Brian Sloticago for
all their hard work. Now expectations come with the publicity, Mr,
right and right now, BYU basketball is different than BYU
football in this regard, football is completely underrated, completely underappreciated
all season long, and overachieving. Right yet they're in the limelight,
and they're being pushed towards the limelight, and they may
become the favorites to win the Big Twelve. If not
this week, but maybe after this week, heading into the
Texas Tech Week, I still think after it's gonna take
after Texas Tech, a Texas Tech win on the road
for anyone to say yes, finally, BYU's a ride. Everyone's
gonna still be in wait and see mode. I'm telling
you right now that's the case. Whereas BYU basketball is
expected to be at worst an Elite eighteen, ran fran
Schilla joined Jerem Jordan and BYU Sports Nation earlier today
to discuss the expectations of the basketball squad. Let's listen
in as he prognosticates an Elite eight or a Final four.
Speaker 1: Assessment of what the Cougars could be this year.
Speaker 8: You know, I could easily say final four. I would
safely say, you know, Elite eight would be phenomenal, but
certainly you got three potential All League players. I watched
the game against Nebraska, Rob didn't play the second half.
I don't think Nebraska is going to shoot that many
threes the way they did in that game. But I'm
sure coach Young had a little bit to do as
far as practice with the defense. But aj didn't surprise me.
I don't think Richie had his best game. And Richie's
far better than I think he showed against Nebraska. I'm
not worried about how well he'll play, but you know,
I enjoyed watching him. I think there's a lot to
work with. I think one of the keys is going
to be the fifth, sixth, seventh best players on the team,
you know, and how that develops. You know, Davis looks
like he's going to be a great role player. Big
fellow inside Kaita is a solid player. So some really
good guys to build around. And now it's going to
be like how they how they developed the role players
in the bench.
Speaker 3: Expectations pretty high, much higher for BYU basketball than BYU football.
But at the end of the year, you wonder will
they be at the same spot. Remember last year BYU
and the Apeopole for football and BYU basketball and the
a people both ended up thirteenth.
Speaker 1: In the nation. And that's an anomaly, right And.
Speaker 3: They I would say, obviously basketball had higher expectations than football.
Football overachieved, and I would say to a certain degree,
basketball achieved and overachieved. I mean, I think round to
thirty two was probably quota. Sweet sixteen was ideal.
Speaker 6: I think they overachieved from where we were mid season
when we thought they had.
Speaker 1: So, yeah, we were talking preseason. Here, we're talking preseason.
Speaker 3: When we were talking preseason in the amount of resource allocation,
like I think most people were hovering around sweet sixteen,
round of thirty two, you had to at least survive
in advance, which was one win in the NCAA tournament.
That was the expectation that was quota. Anything less would
be uncivilized and it would just not be met with
graciousness from the Cougar fan base because you spend some
money and you have a lot, not not only from
a coaching staff standpoint, but from a personnel standpoint, and
you expected more, right, you got it.
Speaker 1: You overachieved.
Speaker 3: But football overachieved, probably more so than basketball, I'd say significantly.
So they had a four and a half win potal
prediction prediction from Vegas insane. Most of us just wanted
to get to a bowl game in twenty twenty four, right, like.
Speaker 1: Let's get to a bowl game.
Speaker 3: You know, if we could go to the Pop Tarts Bowl,
that would be great type of deal, if not Arizona Bowl, etc.
Like that was the expecting. Get the seven eight wins
and we're glorious. We wanted to be middle of the
Pac Big twelve.
Speaker 1: That was the expectation.
Speaker 3: So once again we're talking about expectations and B why
you overachieved once again this year?
Speaker 1: And is overachieving?
Speaker 3: They lost their quarterback, their redshirt senior quarterback, and they're
seven to zero, almost in the top ten.
Speaker 1: Yet still many are doubting.
Speaker 3: Pro Football Focus discussed this earlier today in their BYU
Iowa State preview. Let's discuss, given what BYU has done
this season, are we surprised that the Cougars are underdogs
against Iowa State?
Speaker 9: Levin BYU at Iowa State three point thirty pm Eastern
Time on Fox. The storylines to know is can BYU
continue proving the doubters wrong? And hands up, I have
been one of those doubters this year. We have plenty
of comments Dalton on all of the BYU videos that
we do making fun of me because I'm literally in
every I think bau preview you've done picked against BYU
this year, and obviously, since they're undefeated so far, I've
been wrong every single time this year too. Plenty of
people doubted this program going into the year. You know,
in the summer, Jake Retsloff, of course, the starting quarterback
left the program, and many people were wondering whether or
not BYUN reached the magical highs, and they had in
the twenty twenty four season, where they went eleven to two.
They finished number thirteen in the Final eight p poll.
After all, they were starting a true freshman quarterback in
Bear Bachmeier, who only enrolled at BYU in May after
transferring in from Stanford. So because of that, the Cougar
has had a preseason win total of only six and
a half on Draft Kings Sportsbook, BYU has already surpassed
their preseason win total with a perfect seven to zero
record this year. They're one of six remaining undefeated teams
in the country. They most recently took down number twenty
three Utah in the Holy War, a game where Utah
was favored by three and a half points, and BYU
even though they're seven to zero, playing an unranked team
this week. BYU is still underdogs. Iowa State is favored
by two and a half points over the Cougars this Saturday.
Iowa State is coming off their first two losses.
Speaker 3: There you go, that's PFF breaking it down. Your reaction
to the expectations the line, et cetera by U versus
Iowa State B will you're not a favorite in this game?
Speaker 6: Yeah? My first reaction is, I hope he keeps picking
against b YU back to the superstitions. But I I
just have really mixed feelings about the line. If you're
looking objectively, BYU should be favored. I think if you're
looking objectively like you just put the teams on the statue.
But if you're looking at and I keep going back
to this, I sound like a broken record. BYU's on
the road, and I think I think that should count
for something, right, And I know Bears played well, but.
Speaker 1: Ioway States a different kind of road environment.
Speaker 6: If I don't, I don't know what their football atmosphere
is like, but if it's if it's half what it's
like at Hilton, then it's going to be difficult to
play there. And so I think I think it's I
don't want to say that it's it's fair, but I
don't think it's.
Speaker 1: Unfair to favor Iowa State.
Speaker 6: And so I also think it's good for the team
to feel like, hey, to have this after a rivalry win,
to feel like, hey, they still don't believe. We gotta focus,
We got to lock in and get to work. So
I guess that's my assessment. It's not necessarily fair, but
it's not unfair.
Speaker 1: I love it. I think it's great. I think it's grand.
Speaker 3: I think it's wonderful, chip on the shoulder overachieving. It's
a part of the Kalate culture. It's a part of
who we are. I want it to continue. You can
heap all the expectations on BYU basketball. Leave us to
the doubters, leave us to the haters, leave us to
those that just don't believe BYU is built for greatness
on the grid iron because we may just continue to
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