1 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Great Detectives of Old Time Radio from Boise, Idaho. 2 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:38,479 This is your host, Adam Graham. In a moment, we're 3 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:42,280 going to bring you this week's episode of Dragnet. But 4 00:00:42,359 --> 00:00:45,159 I do want to encourage you, if you're enjoying the podcast, 5 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:49,799 to please follow us using your favorite podcast software. Our 6 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:53,960 listener support and appreciation campaign concludes today and you can 7 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:58,520 become one of our ongoing Patreon supporters for as little 8 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:02,119 as two dollars per month going to Patreon doc Great 9 00:01:02,159 --> 00:01:05,959 Detectives dot net. And I want to welcome our latest 10 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:10,920 Patreon supporter, Denise, coming on board at the Shawmus level 11 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:13,640 of four dollars or more per month. Thanks so much 12 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:18,680 for your support, Denise. Now from January eleventh, nineteen fifty 13 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:21,359 here is the big jump. 14 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:32,359 Speaker 2: The story you are about to hear is true, only 15 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:42,480 the names have been changed to protect the innocent. You're 16 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:47,280 a detective sergeant. You're assigned the homicide detail. A man 17 00:01:47,439 --> 00:01:50,400 crouches on the window ledge of a downtown building thirteen 18 00:01:50,439 --> 00:01:53,480 stories above the street. He threatens to leap to his 19 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:54,439 death within the hour. 20 00:01:55,400 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 3: Your job stop him. 21 00:02:06,239 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 4: Dragnet the documented drama of an actual crime for the 22 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:13,360 next thirty minutes in cooperation with the Los Angeles Police Department. 23 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:15,759 You will travel step by step on the side of 24 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:19,280 the law through an actual case transcribed from official police violence, 25 00:02:19,879 --> 00:02:23,599 from beginning to end, from crime to punishment. Dragnet is 26 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:25,520 the story of your police force in action. 27 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 5: It was Thursday, September sixth was warm in Los Angeles. 28 00:02:32,199 --> 00:02:34,960 We're working the day watch out of homicide detail. My 29 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,439 partner's Ben Romero. The boss is Captain Steve. 30 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:38,439 Speaker 6: My name is Friday. 31 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 5: I was on the way back from communications and it 32 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:42,840 was one twenty eight pm when I got to room 33 00:02:42,879 --> 00:02:45,360 forty two homicide. 34 00:02:47,319 --> 00:02:48,159 Speaker 7: You ready to skip it? 35 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 8: Yeah? 36 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:52,159 Speaker 6: Am man? What's up? It's got the call Third and Temple, 37 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:54,280 you know, Fitzroy Building, thirteenth floor. 38 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 9: They got a jumper, right then? 39 00:02:57,439 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 6: That's how's it? Right? What's the story? 40 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 10: Skipper took? 41 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 6: Could go? Not much to tell. Guys perched out on 42 00:03:06,319 --> 00:03:09,080 a window ledge thirteen floors up, threatening to jump. Yep, 43 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:10,919 what time you got round now? 44 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:13,039 Speaker 9: One thirty three? 45 00:03:13,039 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 6: Not much time? What the guy and alleged you, sir? Notice, 46 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:18,719 well what do you mean? He says he's going to jump? 47 00:03:18,719 --> 00:03:19,599 At two o'clock. 48 00:03:22,599 --> 00:03:25,319 Speaker 5: One six pm, Ben pulled the card to a stop 49 00:03:25,319 --> 00:03:27,719 at Third and Temple. We double parked near the intersection, 50 00:03:27,879 --> 00:03:30,080 started across the street to the building on the northeast 51 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:33,879 corner was a steel frame structure with a block granite facing. 52 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:36,759 The stone lettering over the main entrance read R. H. 53 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:40,479 Fitzroy Building, nineteen twenty seven. The immediate area had been 54 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:43,800 blocked off in all directions. The sidewalks directly adjacent to 55 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:46,639 the building on Third Street and on Temple Street had 56 00:03:46,639 --> 00:03:50,240 also been cleared of all pedestrian traffic. Hundreds of curious 57 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:53,120 onlookers jammed against police lines at the fire side of 58 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:55,199 the intersection, reaching back for. 59 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:56,599 Speaker 6: A full block in either direction. 60 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 5: Hundreds more packed in behind them. Thirteen stories above the 61 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:03,879 pavement was the center of attraction, the figure of a 62 00:04:03,879 --> 00:04:07,080 man standing upright on a narrow ledge, looking down at 63 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:09,879 the crowd on the street directly below him. Men from 64 00:04:09,879 --> 00:04:13,199 the fire Department's rescue squad were hurriedly stretching out nets. 65 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:16,079 Speaker 8: We entered the building, took the elevator to the thirteenth floor. 66 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:19,199 Speaker 6: Who's stand by A Pierce Giver Bechel and Wiseman. I 67 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:21,000 saw the crowd gathering in the street. On the way 68 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:22,839 back from lunch, looked up and saw a guy on 69 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:23,879 the edge that came right up. 70 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:25,319 Speaker 8: How long has the guy been standing out there? 71 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 6: About fifteen minutes? 72 00:04:26,439 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 9: Sure drawing a crowd. Must be a couple of thousand 73 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:29,319 people down there. 74 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:29,519 Speaker 6: Now. 75 00:04:37,639 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 10: How was that room number? 76 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 6: Friday thirteen oh five. Yeah, it's down on this way. 77 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:47,120 There's Bechel Beck. I been watching for you. The office 78 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:50,480 is down here. Okay, how's it stand now? He's still 79 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:52,439 out there ready to jump. We got twenty two minutes 80 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:53,720 to figure out how to stemp them. 81 00:04:53,759 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 9: What's the story anyway? 82 00:04:54,839 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 6: I let the doctor tell you. Go ahead through here, nurse, 83 00:05:05,519 --> 00:05:06,399 where doctor Turner go? 84 00:05:06,519 --> 00:05:08,399 Speaker 9: He look down to meet doctor right, he's bringing him 85 00:05:08,439 --> 00:05:08,759 right up. 86 00:05:08,879 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 6: Uh, this is Captain Steve Homicide in this Lenaham. How 87 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:12,639 do you do? Right? Friday? 88 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 10: Rame? 89 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:17,959 Speaker 6: Nurse? Here's how he climbed outside this window here? Yeah, 90 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:20,279 right now, he's standing on the ledge about twelve feet 91 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:21,720 to the right of the window. The ledge is about 92 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:24,160 fourteen inches wide. No other windows closer to doing No, 93 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:25,920 this is it? Did you try to talk him out 94 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:27,639 of it? Get him back inside? We took a turn 95 00:05:27,639 --> 00:05:29,879 at it. Yeah, Wiseman crawled out on the ledge. Talk 96 00:05:29,959 --> 00:05:31,759 to him so did I. It's one of the queerest 97 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:34,279 jumpers i've come across. What honey mean, got a hammer 98 00:05:34,319 --> 00:05:36,759 with him, carpenter's hammer. Whenever you get close to him, 99 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:39,160 he takes a cut at you. Wiseman wasn't looking for it, 100 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:40,759 had a duck fast he almost went over. 101 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:42,319 Speaker 8: Was there any other way to reach him? 102 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 6: Double checked the whole lay out. This window is the closest. 103 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:47,199 What about lowering a man from the roof, white piece 104 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:48,000 of corners up. 105 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 3: There, a big overhang. 106 00:05:49,079 --> 00:05:50,519 Speaker 6: Put a man down on a rope and he'd be 107 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:52,600 hanging three feet from the side of the building. Wouldn't 108 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:53,399 come close to the guy? 109 00:05:53,439 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 9: How about this doctor you mentioned Beck? You figured he 110 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:55,920 can yell? 111 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:59,439 Speaker 6: It's worth a try this Lenand yes, sergeant, you saw 112 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:01,160 it happen. You know better than I do of what 113 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:03,839 doctor Turner's idea is. Would you fill these men in place? 114 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:04,839 Make it brief surely. 115 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 8: Now this man on the ledge, who is he? 116 00:06:06,959 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 6: Do you know? 117 00:06:07,439 --> 00:06:09,959 Speaker 11: Walter Harrison's his name. He's one of the doctor's patients. 118 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:11,800 His sister brought him in for a routine check up. 119 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:12,759 That was about one o'clock. 120 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 6: How old is the man? Forty one? 121 00:06:14,439 --> 00:06:16,519 Speaker 11: His sister told us. He's been complaining of the back 122 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:19,199 ache lately. While the doctor was examining him and mister 123 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:21,600 Harrison flew up all of a sudden, he yelled out 124 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:23,120 we were trying to cripple him, that we wanted to 125 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:27,360 kill him. Oh excuse me, please sure doctor Turner's office. 126 00:06:28,079 --> 00:06:29,759 Speaker 12: No, I'm sorry, not that that you know him. We 127 00:06:29,759 --> 00:06:30,759 have an offline of trouble. 128 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 8: Yes, all right, fancy, Well what happened after Harrison started 129 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:35,879 to act up in this land? 130 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 11: Doctor Turner and I tried to hold him. He shoved 131 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:39,759 his both out of the way. He hit the doctor 132 00:06:39,759 --> 00:06:41,879 in the face. Then he ran to the window, got 133 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:43,720 out on that ledge and crawled along the side of 134 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:44,079 the building. 135 00:06:44,079 --> 00:06:44,959 Speaker 6: He's been there ever since. 136 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:46,519 Speaker 9: Miss Harrison is a mental case. 137 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 11: Yes, he's been for ten years, been in and out 138 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:51,839 of the State hospital at camer Allot a couple of times. 139 00:06:52,079 --> 00:06:53,560 Sister Ru's been taking care of him. 140 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:53,959 Speaker 6: She was here. 141 00:06:53,959 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 12: What has happened? 142 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:55,519 Speaker 6: Where is she now? 143 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 11: Next door the treatment room, Filma, that's the other nurse 144 00:06:58,240 --> 00:06:59,399 she's looking after Miss Harrison. 145 00:06:59,439 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 6: She's pretty clock. Tried to talk to a skipper. Not 146 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:05,079 much help so far. You said the doctor's been treating 147 00:07:05,079 --> 00:07:05,920 this mister Harrison. 148 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 11: No, he just came in for a physical check out. 149 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:10,839 Doctor Wright's been handling his nomal condition. That's where doctor 150 00:07:10,839 --> 00:07:13,240 Turner is now getting right. He has his office in 151 00:07:13,279 --> 00:07:13,879 the next building. 152 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 8: Uh, what time you got, ben? 153 00:07:15,879 --> 00:07:17,879 Speaker 9: Hm, it's getting short, nineteen minutes to two. 154 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 6: How about the time element back? If he's gonna kill himself, 155 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:22,240 why is he waiting for two o'clock to do it? 156 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:24,279 It's got me. He scribbled a note out there, threw 157 00:07:24,279 --> 00:07:25,639 it down to the street. One of the men the 158 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:27,480 rescue squad grabbed it and run it up and I 159 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:29,920 got it right here. Let me see. And I look 160 00:07:29,959 --> 00:07:34,680 at that too. And you want my life? They want 161 00:07:34,759 --> 00:07:36,920 me what's his next one? Oh? 162 00:07:37,319 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 10: Dead dead? 163 00:07:38,079 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 6: They want me dead here. I'd like to pray first. 164 00:07:41,639 --> 00:07:45,639 I'll jump at two o'clock, I'll what's this last thing? 165 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:45,839 Speaker 10: Ben? 166 00:07:45,879 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 6: I can't read this. 167 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 9: Let me see it. I had two o'clock don't touch 168 00:07:50,959 --> 00:07:52,759 my body that said don't touch my body. 169 00:07:52,759 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 6: Now you saw the guy close range back. What do 170 00:07:55,079 --> 00:07:56,839 you think he's serious? I don't know. I'm not even 171 00:07:56,879 --> 00:07:57,399 gonna guess. 172 00:07:57,399 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 9: How about me going out and talking to him, skipper, 173 00:07:59,199 --> 00:08:00,399 It might work and we'll do that. 174 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:02,879 Speaker 6: Ledge is fourteen inches wide, Romera. If you slip by, 175 00:08:02,879 --> 00:08:04,480 I don't want to explain it to your wife and kid. 176 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 5: Well, how about me giving it a try. That jumper 177 00:08:06,399 --> 00:08:07,920 case last October I was on that one. 178 00:08:07,959 --> 00:08:10,319 Speaker 6: It's volunteer duty, Joe. I'm not gonna order you, you 179 00:08:10,399 --> 00:08:12,199 know the rest of Yeah, I'll watch it. You want 180 00:08:12,199 --> 00:08:14,959 to stand by here at the window bend. Okay, let's 181 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:19,600 get that window up, says Lines. Yeah, there's blind. 182 00:08:19,839 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 8: Okay, I'll give your hand with the window. 183 00:08:23,959 --> 00:08:26,639 Speaker 9: All right, Hope she goes a little stuck. 184 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:31,879 Speaker 6: Yeah, yes, all the way up. Huh it goes Okay, 185 00:08:33,159 --> 00:08:35,759 make careful now, huh yeah I will, Joe, Yeah, back. 186 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:38,200 I don't forget about that hammer the guy's got. It's 187 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:40,480 just my guess. Yeah, what's that? The guy might want 188 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:46,000 to die. I don't think he wants to do it alone. 189 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:47,759 Speaker 8: One PM. 190 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 5: If we could take Walterer Harrison's word for it, we 191 00:08:49,879 --> 00:08:52,279 had exactly seventeen minutes to talk him into a change 192 00:08:52,279 --> 00:08:54,120 of mind before he plunged to his death in the 193 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:57,759 pavement thirteen stories below. I crawled out of the window 194 00:08:57,759 --> 00:09:01,159 and started enging my way along the narrow ledge went slow. 195 00:09:01,759 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 6: I kept my eyes on Harrison. 196 00:09:03,759 --> 00:09:06,039 Speaker 5: He stood about ten feet away from him, looking down 197 00:09:06,039 --> 00:09:07,799 at the crowds jamming the streets below. 198 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 8: I edged along to within eight feet of him. He 199 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:12,320 didn't seem to notice me. 200 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:15,519 Speaker 5: It was a fairly tall man, about five foot ten, 201 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,679 medium bill of dark hair. He was wearing gray pin 202 00:09:18,799 --> 00:09:22,759 striped trousers, a white shirt, no coat, no necktie. I 203 00:09:22,799 --> 00:09:25,240 got to within six feet of him. He raised one 204 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:26,840 arm and made a motion with his fist at the 205 00:09:26,879 --> 00:09:27,480 crowd below. 206 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 7: Had a lot. You're dirty, take a man of don't you. 207 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:33,159 Speaker 12: You are fetched me out? 208 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:35,159 Speaker 13: Rst you? 209 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:37,399 Speaker 7: What ever done? 210 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:41,279 Speaker 8: I kept edging toward him. He still didn't seem the 211 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:41,840 notice man. 212 00:09:42,639 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 6: He turned his body a little. 213 00:09:44,879 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 8: He kept pounding the side of the building. 214 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:47,039 Speaker 6: With a hammer. 215 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:50,919 Speaker 5: I got a look at his right hand and that 216 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:54,639 he held the carpenter's hammer. I got to within five 217 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:59,360 feet of him. A narrow liner passed overhead. Harrison looked up. 218 00:09:59,399 --> 00:10:01,960 He muttered some thing. Then he turned he saw me. 219 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:05,039 Speaker 6: I'm gonna kill you. 220 00:10:06,039 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 14: It's all right with me, Waller. Why do you want 221 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:10,480 to kill yourself? You're only gonna hurt people. 222 00:10:10,799 --> 00:10:13,399 Speaker 12: You don't care about people, You don't care about me. 223 00:10:14,519 --> 00:10:17,399 Speaker 14: What am I doing out here. Well, you got it wrong, Waller. 224 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:19,799 A lot of people care about you. They want you 225 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:21,559 back inside and want you where it's safe. 226 00:10:21,639 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 15: You're another one of those. You want to get your 227 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,960 hands from me. You want to cut where you are. 228 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 12: Not I'm going to kill me. 229 00:10:29,759 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 8: It's all right, Water, you can kill me. I want 230 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:33,080 to help you first. 231 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 12: You stay back. Don't you mean anymore? I got this 232 00:10:36,399 --> 00:10:39,080 hammer and out smash your face for the hop, smash you. 233 00:10:39,279 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 8: I only want to talk. I know we can straighten 234 00:10:41,519 --> 00:10:41,879 this out. 235 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:45,559 Speaker 12: I'll do it my way. You understand my way. I 236 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:48,679 know who you are. You you've been after me before. 237 00:10:48,759 --> 00:10:50,000 I know what it's all about. 238 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 8: I know you do Water, but you got it wrong. 239 00:10:52,399 --> 00:10:52,519 Speaker 6: Now. 240 00:10:52,519 --> 00:10:54,519 Speaker 14: Look, you're gonna jump up this building at two o'clock. 241 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:55,559 Speaker 8: That's in fifteen minutes. 242 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,320 Speaker 9: That's right, you bet I hand all right. 243 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:01,559 Speaker 14: Now, Let's let's talk it over for five of those minutes. Huh, 244 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:04,919 can't do any harm. I'm not gonna hurt you. How 245 00:11:04,919 --> 00:11:05,279 about it? 246 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:05,879 Speaker 8: Okay? 247 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 12: Why should I talk to you? 248 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:10,679 Speaker 14: Because I care about what happens to you. So does 249 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:11,919 your sister, so to a lot of people. 250 00:11:11,919 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 12: Well, then you're like a lot of people. 251 00:11:13,759 --> 00:11:16,559 Speaker 15: You want to get your hands on me right that 252 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:20,159 those animals down there, the whole dirty pack them, they 253 00:11:20,159 --> 00:11:22,279 want to grab on them and get all. 254 00:11:22,159 --> 00:11:23,759 Speaker 12: Around close and put their hands on me. 255 00:11:23,879 --> 00:11:26,559 Speaker 14: Well they're not gonna do it, of course they're not. 256 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:29,399 Nobody's gonna hurt you. You know that, don't you bet 257 00:11:29,399 --> 00:11:29,799 your life? 258 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:32,799 Speaker 12: They're not. You see that dirty. 259 00:11:32,519 --> 00:11:33,279 Speaker 7: Pack down there. 260 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 15: Well they don't know. But I'm gonna jump right to you. 261 00:11:37,039 --> 00:11:40,240 I'm gonna jump right through all would. 262 00:11:40,039 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 14: They won't even attach to me, and I could do 263 00:11:41,399 --> 00:11:44,480 it right down minute, Wallace, we'll forget your promise. 264 00:11:45,039 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 12: What are you talking about? 265 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 7: What promise to a clock? 266 00:11:47,519 --> 00:11:49,879 Speaker 14: You wrote that down yourself. They said you wouldn't jump 267 00:11:49,919 --> 00:11:50,679 until it was two o'clock. 268 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:54,639 Speaker 12: Was no promise, I just wrote it down there, so 269 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:55,840 just two o'clock. 270 00:11:56,639 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 14: Yeah, when your sister believed it, we gave her the note. 271 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:02,320 She says, that's your promise. Now you're gonna make a 272 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:03,159 liar out of yourself. 273 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 12: You're you're the liar. Ruth didn't say that. She didn't 274 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:08,120 say it was a promise. 275 00:12:08,159 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 8: You gotta take my word for that. All right, Let's 276 00:12:11,519 --> 00:12:13,240 go in and ask her how about it? 277 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 12: See see Ruth inside? 278 00:12:16,799 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 8: Sure, man, come on, take my hand water all. 279 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 9: Right, all right, I'll take your hands, patch. 280 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 8: Your step lookout, will you do? 281 00:12:26,519 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 7: You'll get back to get back now? 282 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:30,279 Speaker 12: Next time I want miss, I'll. 283 00:12:30,159 --> 00:12:32,279 Speaker 7: Straight your whole harm you. 284 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:34,519 Speaker 12: You think you're pretty smart, don't you. You're trying to 285 00:12:34,519 --> 00:12:35,879 trick me. Well, I've told you before. 286 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 13: I know who you are. 287 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:40,039 Speaker 12: You're trying to get your hands on. 288 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:43,279 Speaker 14: You promised your sister two o'clock. You're still gonna break 289 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:43,759 that promise. 290 00:12:43,799 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 12: I'm not like you in that pack down there. I 291 00:12:46,399 --> 00:12:47,440 don't break promise. 292 00:12:47,879 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 14: Everybody knows that water. They trust you. Come on, how 293 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:53,879 about talking this thing out? 294 00:12:55,519 --> 00:12:56,159 Speaker 12: What time is. 295 00:12:57,679 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 6: One? 296 00:12:59,000 --> 00:12:59,919 Speaker 8: Fourteen minutes to go? 297 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:03,440 Speaker 12: How do I know if that's the time? 298 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 8: Now? You can look at my watch there, right. 299 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:09,159 Speaker 12: Why don't you stand back? I told you before you 300 00:13:09,519 --> 00:13:10,120 stay away. 301 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 8: I just wanted to show you the time. That's all 302 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:13,519 all right. 303 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:15,279 Speaker 14: You can look at that big clock up the street, 304 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:17,320 see the one on the side of the whole bart 305 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:17,960 building up there? 306 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:21,159 Speaker 10: Fourteen? 307 00:13:22,759 --> 00:13:24,559 Speaker 12: How do I know that's right? How do I know 308 00:13:24,639 --> 00:13:26,120 they're not even with you too? 309 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 14: You already said it, big company. They don't care about 310 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,799 you or me. They got a business to run their clock. 311 00:13:33,039 --> 00:13:34,039 Speaker 8: They don't care what happened. 312 00:13:34,759 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 12: No, all of course not, they don't. 313 00:13:37,399 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 2: They don't care. 314 00:13:39,639 --> 00:13:41,159 Speaker 12: All right, Well, i'll just keep an eye on. 315 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:44,039 Speaker 8: That clock, all right. You don't mind if I talk 316 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:44,919 while you wait? Do you? 317 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 12: That's plain? What's it doing without dam or? 318 00:13:50,919 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 8: It's just an airliner, probably on its way into Bourban. 319 00:13:54,799 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 12: That things been by before. It's flying low too. 320 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 8: Yeah, I guess I didn't notice. What difference does it make? 321 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:07,519 Speaker 15: Probably watch flying back and forth. Maybe they're the police, 322 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:09,759 so they're trying to do something. They're trying to get 323 00:14:09,759 --> 00:14:10,480 their hands on me. 324 00:14:10,919 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 8: Oh let's see. Yeah, might be their plane. It's a 325 00:14:15,039 --> 00:14:15,399 big one. 326 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:20,039 Speaker 15: Sure, sure, they're trying to do something. Coming right by here, 327 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:25,399 flying law. It's the same one I can see. 328 00:14:27,519 --> 00:14:30,879 Speaker 12: Look what do you see there on the wing? 329 00:14:31,279 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 2: Yeah? 330 00:14:31,519 --> 00:14:33,559 Speaker 8: What's that the number right there on the wing. 331 00:14:33,639 --> 00:14:35,919 Speaker 12: It's the same one that passed over a few minutes ago. 332 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 8: So you get away from me to give it me. 333 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 12: You thought you tricked me. You didn't know I had 334 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:48,919 my pocket knife. Well I can kid you with it now, 335 00:14:49,279 --> 00:14:50,519 I can kill you right now. 336 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:53,679 Speaker 8: Yeah, I told you before. It's all right with me. 337 00:14:54,039 --> 00:14:55,600 Just look out there, watch your step on the ledge. 338 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 15: When you should have cut your hand off. I should 339 00:14:58,159 --> 00:15:00,159 have cut your whole arm off and throw I went 340 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:01,399 to those animals down there. 341 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 12: Look at that blood all over your hand. 342 00:15:06,879 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 14: Tell I'm sorry, Walter, It's not your fault. I just 343 00:15:09,879 --> 00:15:11,399 wanted to talk the whole thing over, to tell you 344 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:12,279 how your sister feels. 345 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:12,919 Speaker 12: You're a liar. 346 00:15:13,879 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 15: I knew it when I looked at you, and I 347 00:15:15,559 --> 00:15:18,320 know you'll get away. You'll get away before I kill you. 348 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 14: But there's only one thing I can tell you. There's 349 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:22,879 sits the root sitting inside there, and she's worried, sick. 350 00:15:23,559 --> 00:15:26,039 Speaker 8: She's waiting for you. He wants to take your home. 351 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:29,600 How about it. There's no reason for all this. You 352 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:30,320 know that, don't you. 353 00:15:31,399 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 10: I'm sure you do. 354 00:15:32,919 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 14: Your sister and your family they care about you. They 355 00:15:35,039 --> 00:15:37,559 want your home again, They want you with him. There's 356 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:39,440 no reason to be standing out here, now, is there. 357 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 12: You you wait un two o'clock, mister, Yeah, I'll show 358 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:43,840 you the reason. 359 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 5: One twelve minutes left. I made my way along the 360 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:54,000 ledge through the window back into the office. Doctor Wright, 361 00:15:54,159 --> 00:15:56,799 a man who'd been treating Walter Harrison for his mental sickness, 362 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:58,519 was already there with doctor Turner. 363 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:01,519 Speaker 8: While the nurse bandies my hand. Captain Steve ben and 364 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:02,360 I talked with him. 365 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 6: I've treated Harrison for ten years, on and off. I 366 00:16:07,279 --> 00:16:11,159 guess he showed some improvement, not much definite paranoid tendencies. 367 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:13,159 Speaker 9: Did he ever try this before, doctor, right? 368 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 6: Not to my knowledge. His sister might tell you more. 369 00:16:15,759 --> 00:16:17,519 I really don't know what to advise you to do. 370 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:20,440 He's never been this violent before using a hammer, and 371 00:16:20,559 --> 00:16:24,399 I think, yeah, that's fine, thank you. There's only one 372 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:26,879 thing I've got to know, doctor, Is it worth letting 373 00:16:26,919 --> 00:16:28,679 another one of my men go out there on that ledge. 374 00:16:28,759 --> 00:16:31,399 I'm afraid that's your decision, Captain. It may help, it 375 00:16:31,519 --> 00:16:33,639 may not. I know the patient, but I can't read 376 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:34,120 his mind. 377 00:16:34,639 --> 00:16:37,759 Speaker 5: It's just thinking we might bring Harrison's sister to the 378 00:16:37,799 --> 00:16:39,080 window and have her talks on. 379 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:41,759 Speaker 6: I think that might help, Doctor, very possible, it might. 380 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:43,960 And a spot like this time in the same boat shore. 381 00:16:44,039 --> 00:16:46,440 It's all guess what you think Harrison's really gonna be 382 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:48,960 ready to jump at two o'clock, doctor, From what Sergeant 383 00:16:49,039 --> 00:16:51,159 Friday tells me, Yes, I think you would jump. We 384 00:16:51,279 --> 00:16:53,399 got to come up with something. We can't just stand around. 385 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:55,759 What the guy take a dive down thirteen story. I 386 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:58,240 wish I knew the answer. It's got to be one someplace. 387 00:16:58,279 --> 00:17:00,480 It's got to be an answer. Let's check your watch. 388 00:17:00,559 --> 00:17:01,919 We've got ten minutes to find it. 389 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 4: You are listening to drag met authentic stories of your 390 00:17:16,279 --> 00:17:17,279 police force and action. 391 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 5: It's a sworn duty of the peace officer to protect 392 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:29,200 the lives of the citizens of the community in which 393 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:29,720 he serves. 394 00:17:30,319 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 6: That isn't always. 395 00:17:31,079 --> 00:17:33,039 Speaker 8: Limited to protecting the citizens. 396 00:17:32,599 --> 00:17:33,920 Speaker 6: From criminals and lawbreakers. 397 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:38,039 Speaker 5: Oftentimes the citizen has to be protected from himself. The 398 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:40,359 drunken driver can do as much harm to his own 399 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:41,000 person as he. 400 00:17:41,039 --> 00:17:43,640 Speaker 6: Can to others. The same for the narcotic addict. 401 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:46,519 Speaker 8: The same for mental incompetence such as Walter Harrison. 402 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:49,799 Speaker 5: If he was being assaulted, robbed, or shot at by 403 00:17:49,839 --> 00:17:53,079 a gunman, it would have been no more serious. Harrison's 404 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:55,400 life was in jeopardy. Trying to save him had to 405 00:17:55,440 --> 00:18:00,480 be the first consideration one. Sergeant Jack white Man east 406 00:18:00,519 --> 00:18:02,359 his way out on the ledge of the thirteenth story 407 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:05,759 and kept Walter Harrison busy talking anything to keep his mind. 408 00:18:05,599 --> 00:18:06,160 Speaker 6: Off the jump. 409 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 8: Captain Steve got on the phone and talk to the 410 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:09,319 manager of the whole. 411 00:18:09,279 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 5: Art building, a twelve story structure three blocks away, with 412 00:18:12,599 --> 00:18:15,119 a large clock set into either side of it, the 413 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:17,200 same clock Harrison was keeping time by. 414 00:18:17,759 --> 00:18:19,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's right, just so you don't make it look 415 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:24,279 too obvious. Okay, mister Wallis, thank you. They're going to 416 00:18:24,319 --> 00:18:26,119 do all I can. That's hope it works. You know, 417 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:28,240 what do you say they're going to start slowing down 418 00:18:28,279 --> 00:18:30,200 the clock in the building right away. If Harrison goes 419 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:32,039 by that time, it's going to be a long ten minutes. 420 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 8: Well how much they figure they can stretch it about five. 421 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:36,519 Speaker 6: Or six minutes without making it look too obvious when 422 00:18:36,559 --> 00:18:38,720 you sure you use it. Let's hope Harrison doesn't catch on. 423 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:41,240 Manager said, they'll stop the clock when it's a minute 424 00:18:41,279 --> 00:18:45,200 to go. It'll never reach two o'clock, skip, Garramarow. I 425 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:47,319 just checked with the rescue squad down the street. They're 426 00:18:47,319 --> 00:18:50,480 stringing out more nets. You know, they're not guaranteeing anything. 427 00:18:50,759 --> 00:18:52,839 How do you mean they're worried about those ledges jetting 428 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:55,079 up from the building every other floor. They say, if 429 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:57,400 Harrison jumps close enough, he's bound and hit one of them. 430 00:18:57,759 --> 00:18:59,759 He does, he'll be dead before he reaches street level. 431 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:01,559 Nets down there won't do him any good. 432 00:19:02,039 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 10: Nothing we can do about it. 433 00:19:03,279 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 6: Something else we'll have to hand over the locker they 434 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:05,519 come up with. 435 00:19:05,559 --> 00:19:08,079 Speaker 9: Any ideas, Ben just one sounds like a good word. 436 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 6: What's that? They figured, like we did, the overhang on 437 00:19:10,799 --> 00:19:12,880 the roof is too wide to lower a man directly 438 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:14,359 down on topp of Harrison to grab it. 439 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 9: I think it might work if they try this. 440 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:18,759 Speaker 6: Put a man in a rope sling just over the 441 00:19:18,839 --> 00:19:21,319 edge of the roof, lower him down toward Harrison as 442 00:19:21,319 --> 00:19:24,519 close as possible without death, give him a good line, 443 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:28,079 let him try to rope Harris. I don't know they 444 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,480 got any candidates to try it. Yeah, one guy's been 445 00:19:30,519 --> 00:19:32,359 on the rescue squad for years, supposed to be an 446 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:35,319 expert with the lasso capvin, Oh my, do it? I 447 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:35,640 don't know. 448 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:38,039 Speaker 8: Yeah, what happens if he misses Harrison? 449 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:41,160 Speaker 9: Who knows what happens if Harrison jem happened. 450 00:19:41,839 --> 00:19:43,319 Speaker 6: I just got off that ledge in a hurry. He 451 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:45,000 came at me with that knight see any closer to 452 00:19:45,039 --> 00:19:47,400 the window, and backed off again. Something else that clock 453 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:49,759 in the Hobart building. Yeah, pretty sure he's wise to 454 00:19:49,839 --> 00:19:51,359 that gimmick. He's given it up. What do you mean 455 00:19:51,519 --> 00:19:53,480 the two o'clock deadline. He's not going to wait for it. 456 00:19:56,960 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 5: One five pm, especially equipped police car w loud speakers 457 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:02,559 mounted on the roof was rushed at the intersection of 458 00:20:02,599 --> 00:20:05,839 Third and Temple Streets, opposite the Fitzroy Building. Sergeant Jack 459 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:09,119 Wiseman took Walller Harrison's sister Ruth down in the elevator 460 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:11,839 to the street. She got on the police car microphone and. 461 00:20:11,839 --> 00:20:13,839 Speaker 8: Started talking to her brother over the loud speakers. 462 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 5: Word was passed to the special detail of men from 463 00:20:16,519 --> 00:20:17,920 the Fire Department's rescue. 464 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 6: Squad standing by on the roof of the building. They 465 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:20,480 went to work. 466 00:20:21,079 --> 00:20:22,680 Speaker 5: Captain Steed went up to the roof to see if 467 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:24,839 he could assist them. Ben and I waited in the 468 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:28,039 office on the thirteenth floor. The nurse, Miss Lenihan and 469 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:31,680 Jean Becknel were with us. One fifty seven pm, the 470 00:20:31,759 --> 00:20:33,559 men on the roof started to lower the man from 471 00:20:33,599 --> 00:20:36,000 the rescue squad in the rope sling. He held a 472 00:20:36,039 --> 00:20:38,759 double strength lasso in his hands. The end of it 473 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:41,559 was wrapped around his body and tied securely. Ben and 474 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:44,640 I watched from the window. We looked along the narrow 475 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:48,319 ledge Walder. Harrison stood erect and motionless, an open pocket 476 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:50,880 knife in one hand, his feet poisoned the brink of 477 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:54,519 a thirteen story jump. The voice of Harrison's sister drifted 478 00:20:54,599 --> 00:20:56,240 up from the loud speakers down on the street. 479 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:03,400 Speaker 4: What Walder, can't you hear me? 480 00:21:04,759 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 7: Miss Role? 481 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,079 Speaker 11: I want you to come home with me? 482 00:21:09,319 --> 00:21:11,079 Speaker 3: Walder? Please? 483 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:14,079 Speaker 1: You don't want understand? 484 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 8: All right? 485 00:21:15,599 --> 00:21:16,519 Speaker 9: I've benish you for sure. 486 00:21:16,519 --> 00:21:19,640 Speaker 6: If you look that. Yeah, there's nothing wrong. 487 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:21,279 Speaker 12: No one's going to hurt you. 488 00:21:22,839 --> 00:21:24,640 Speaker 7: Why do you want to help you, Walter? 489 00:21:25,559 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 12: Please? 490 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:27,400 Speaker 6: I can't see, Jill. 491 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:28,599 Speaker 9: They're letting the man down. 492 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:33,640 Speaker 8: Yeah, coming slow, you know that. 493 00:21:34,039 --> 00:21:34,440 Speaker 6: Don't you. 494 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:37,160 Speaker 7: Come home with me? 495 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:40,279 Speaker 11: Please, I'll take care of you. 496 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:44,599 Speaker 7: I'll see that. You're saying that you're all right? 497 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:46,519 Speaker 6: Joe haws Harrison doing? Can you see? 498 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:46,920 Speaker 14: Yeah? 499 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:49,319 Speaker 8: He's looking down, not moving at all. 500 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 12: Nobody's gonna hurt. 501 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:51,880 Speaker 6: You, believe me. 502 00:21:53,680 --> 00:22:00,759 Speaker 14: These anybody your friends, they want to help you. Hear me, 503 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,640 water help you? 504 00:22:04,599 --> 00:22:07,079 Speaker 8: That's it? What man coming down on the rope. He's 505 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:07,880 just above Harrison. 506 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 7: Now hear your friend. You get to trust me, your ship. 507 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:13,640 Speaker 6: Your. 508 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 12: You to trust me? 509 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:27,839 Speaker 9: Yeah, I see the man now he's righting bron now. 510 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,519 Speaker 6: Nothing last, already, keep your fingers crossed. What is it? 511 00:22:32,599 --> 00:22:37,079 What's happening? And lest so he's throwing me? 512 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,519 Speaker 12: Get away for a minute, Miss Joey missed water. 513 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:46,799 Speaker 8: Wait a minute, Harrison, very away from it, man and 514 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,359 pull him out of the way. He's still on the ledge. 515 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,759 Speaker 9: I'm going out, joe Wait a minute, it's only a chance. 516 00:22:51,839 --> 00:22:53,319 Speaker 6: Yeah, why don't you get him mad at you, saying 517 00:22:53,319 --> 00:22:55,880 anything and sorting anything to make him go for you. 518 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 9: If you can get him down to this window, I 519 00:22:57,519 --> 00:22:58,079 can grab him. 520 00:22:58,079 --> 00:22:59,640 Speaker 8: If I get him by the window, I'll hold onto him. 521 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 6: Huh Yeah. 522 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 9: When you grab him, try to lean as close to 523 00:23:02,279 --> 00:23:03,000 the building. 524 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 12: As you can. 525 00:23:03,319 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 8: It's none much to lean on the other way. One 526 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:08,839 nine pm. I got through the window and out onto 527 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:09,279 the legs. 528 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,200 Speaker 5: The crowds jamming the streets below had swollen almost twice 529 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,880 their size. A few blocks away, the big clock on 530 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,279 the side of the Hobart building read five minutes to two, 531 00:23:17,799 --> 00:23:20,039 but Harrison wasn't looking at it. He still had his 532 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:23,079 eyes fixed on the pavement thirteen stories beneath us. He 533 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,119 torn off his collar and his shirt was ripped open 534 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:25,599 at the neck. 535 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 8: He waved his arms and shouted at the crowd below 536 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,000 as he tottered along the ledge toward the corner of 537 00:23:30,039 --> 00:23:31,599 the building, away from the window. 538 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:33,839 Speaker 5: Though I was supposed to lure him into in his 539 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,240 right hand, he still held under the open pocket night. 540 00:23:38,519 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 12: You're not gonna get your hands on me. 541 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 7: You're not even gonna get close. 542 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 8: Wait a minute, Harrison, watch it, you watch me, mister. 543 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,400 Speaker 7: I've got a do right froot him down there for 544 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,279 dirty animal. Jujia's what I Wait a minute, I got 545 00:23:51,319 --> 00:23:52,559 a message for you from his sister. 546 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 8: Root. Now do you want to hear it? 547 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 10: You? 548 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,880 Speaker 12: You won't get your hands on me, none of you. 549 00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:58,680 I'll see you lay this. 550 00:23:58,839 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 8: You're a phony, Harrison. 551 00:24:00,279 --> 00:24:01,279 Speaker 7: You're a pony liar. 552 00:24:02,599 --> 00:24:03,880 Speaker 12: I'm a whale, heard me. 553 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:05,319 Speaker 8: You're not kidding anybody. 554 00:24:05,519 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 12: You don't think I can jump? Huh where you're what? 555 00:24:09,079 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 8: Anybody can jump? 556 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:11,279 Speaker 7: Any phony can do that. 557 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 8: It doesn't take anything. 558 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 7: Those animals down there in the street, any one of 559 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:15,559 them can do that. 560 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:17,079 Speaker 8: You're just like one of them. 561 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 12: I've still got this knife. I've used it before, I 562 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:21,759 can kid it. 563 00:24:21,839 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 7: You couldn't kill anything. 564 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:24,559 Speaker 8: You haven't got the cut. You're a phony. 565 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 12: You're alive, You're you're a rotten liar. 566 00:24:27,599 --> 00:24:28,839 Speaker 7: I can cut you to peace. 567 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 8: Oh you talk me, Harrison, but you're all talk. 568 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 12: I can cut you to patience. 569 00:24:32,799 --> 00:24:35,279 Speaker 8: You haven't got me, fool mister, not for a minute. 570 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:37,160 Speaker 12: I've cut you to pieces. 571 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:39,680 Speaker 7: You haven't got half the nerve. You're a phony in 572 00:24:39,759 --> 00:24:44,839 your nose. You're a rotten liar. Stands the going, stands 573 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,400 to the hawkstone. Oh you talk a real good game, 574 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:48,160 but that's about all. 575 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:49,319 Speaker 12: You're all I saw. 576 00:24:50,599 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 7: I still have my knife and right now, yeah, sure 577 00:24:54,039 --> 00:24:54,319 you will. 578 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:55,799 Speaker 12: You're backing away. 579 00:24:56,519 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 7: You're a fright. You're a pony, Harrison. Nobody's afraid of 580 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:00,000 a phone. 581 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 12: He cut your rough. 582 00:25:02,319 --> 00:25:07,759 Speaker 7: I'm waiting for you. Come on, no matter, Arison, you're not. 583 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:08,799 Speaker 12: You're not waiting. 584 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:13,039 Speaker 7: Stay stealing and stop talking away. Don't stop. I'll tell 585 00:25:13,039 --> 00:25:13,920 you you come and get me. 586 00:25:14,039 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 14: Huh. 587 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 7: I haven't got enough nerve. You're just talking again. 588 00:25:18,039 --> 00:25:18,559 Speaker 14: I'll talk. 589 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:18,880 Speaker 6: Huh. 590 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:20,319 Speaker 7: That window. 591 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,559 Speaker 12: You gotta stop by the window, and and then I'll 592 00:25:23,759 --> 00:25:24,640 cut you to piece. 593 00:25:25,799 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 8: All right, Harrison, here, now you go ahead, prove your rough. 594 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 10: Pony. 595 00:25:32,559 --> 00:25:34,920 Speaker 12: All right, I'll show you. 596 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 15: You're running right wrn it dropping cut you run the world. 597 00:25:43,519 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 8: Get you the fee robbing the rubber. 598 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:47,200 Speaker 7: Don't look out, clapp. 599 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 8: And they're gonna fall. 600 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:59,839 Speaker 9: Well, how close can it get? Nurse just wonderful, can't 601 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:00,400 tell you? 602 00:26:01,039 --> 00:26:01,839 Speaker 8: Are you all right? 603 00:26:02,039 --> 00:26:02,640 Speaker 6: Yeah? Fine? 604 00:26:02,799 --> 00:26:04,759 Speaker 8: Would you mind getting Captain Steve Horse please? 605 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 6: You know who is extruly right? Right? Yeah? It was 606 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:17,039 a rough one minute, Darren, looked like you were both 607 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:21,039 going over the side. Yeah, thought I lost to Joe. 608 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:25,000 Well you didn't have to worry. No, no, you told 609 00:26:25,039 --> 00:26:25,799 me which way to lean. 610 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,880 Speaker 2: The story you have just heard was true, only the 611 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:38,920 names were changed to protect the innocent. 612 00:26:39,079 --> 00:26:41,519 Speaker 4: On September tenth, the sanity hearing was held at the 613 00:26:41,519 --> 00:26:44,680 County Hospital Psychopathic Ward, City and County of Los Angeles, 614 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:45,599 State of California. 615 00:26:45,839 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 10: In a moment the results of that hearing, after. 616 00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 4: Being examined by six psychiatrists, Walter John Harris was judgmentally incompetent. 617 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,920 On his sister's request, he was committed to a private sanitarium. 618 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,920 Seven months later, Harrison took his own life by hanging. 619 00:27:16,319 --> 00:27:19,400 You have just heard Dragnet a series of authentic cases 620 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,799 from Official five. Technical advice comes from the Office of 621 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:35,359 Chief of Police W. H. Parker, Los Angeles Police. We 622 00:27:35,559 --> 00:27:38,519 the people is next with Stories of Today on NBC. 623 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 1: Welcome Back. Really a great episode and different from your 624 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:56,000 typical Dragnet story. Listening to the series, you really appreciate 625 00:27:56,319 --> 00:28:01,920 Stacy Harris's range as an actor. Plays a lot of criminals, 626 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:06,759 mad men, ordinary citizens, occasionally other police officers, but they're 627 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:10,079 not all the same. A great example of this is 628 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:15,200 this episode, because most recently on Public Domain Video Theater 629 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:19,839 we featured the Human Bomb, the first TV episode of Dragnet, 630 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:23,759 where he played another character who was a bit disturbed 631 00:28:24,039 --> 00:28:28,559 in Vernon Carney, who was threatening to blow up city Hall. However, 632 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:32,240 it's a very different performance, as Carney's more of a 633 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:37,079 monomaniac and the man in this story is more paranoid 634 00:28:37,279 --> 00:28:41,119 and disturbed. In so many ways, one big role of 635 00:28:41,359 --> 00:28:46,720 modern storytelling is show, don't tell, and Friday's explanations of 636 00:28:47,039 --> 00:28:49,759 why the police do things they do tend to violate 637 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:54,400 that rule, but nevertheless, I think it's helpful as it 638 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:58,960 communicates information that explains the actions in a way that 639 00:28:59,119 --> 00:29:03,200 I think are hard to otherwise. You can imagine a 640 00:29:03,359 --> 00:29:07,119 listener thinking, Okay, it's horrible that this guy's going to jump, 641 00:29:07,279 --> 00:29:10,680 but you try to talk him down. He's violent, He's 642 00:29:10,839 --> 00:29:15,359 determined to jump. What are you guys doing risking men 643 00:29:15,559 --> 00:29:18,319 trying to save someone who doesn't want to be saved. 644 00:29:19,039 --> 00:29:23,200 Friday's explanation makes their point of view clear. It's like 645 00:29:23,319 --> 00:29:26,279 any other citizen in danger. Part of the job is 646 00:29:26,519 --> 00:29:31,160 being willing to put your life at risk in order 647 00:29:31,359 --> 00:29:35,160 to protect the lives of citizens, and if you're not 648 00:29:35,319 --> 00:29:38,240 willing to do that, you don't really belong on the 649 00:29:38,599 --> 00:29:43,119 police force. It was tragic that he ended up killing 650 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:48,880 himself anyway seven months later, but following Friday's reasoning and analogy, 651 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,880 that would be like if you're a police officer and 652 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,160 you save someone from an armed robbery, only for them 653 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,440 to get killed in a mugging seven months later. I 654 00:29:58,599 --> 00:30:01,680 also like the part of the end with Friday's remark 655 00:30:01,759 --> 00:30:04,799 that he was going to be all right because Romero 656 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:08,519 had told him the right way to lean. It's a 657 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:12,960 classic bit of camp humor to diffuse a situation and 658 00:30:13,039 --> 00:30:16,039 did not dwell on the fact that you just nearly died. 659 00:30:16,359 --> 00:30:18,839 It's in the same vein as when at the end 660 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:22,640 of the City Hall bombing or radio version the human Bomb, 661 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:27,920 Friday slips and falls on the steps of City Hall 662 00:30:28,079 --> 00:30:31,079 and sent the bomb flying, which could have killed him 663 00:30:31,799 --> 00:30:34,799 and probably some other people had done major damage to 664 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,359 the City Hall, but it didn't go off because of 665 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,880 how the device was rigged for a hard pull, and 666 00:30:41,079 --> 00:30:44,680 Romero just kind of stood over him and said clumsy. 667 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:49,319 It really indicates the thoroughness with which Jack Webb had 668 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,400 researched the police and the amount of time he spent 669 00:30:52,559 --> 00:30:55,480 with him, that he picked up the cadences of their 670 00:30:55,559 --> 00:30:58,599 humor and works that into the scripts. Well, now we 671 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:02,680 turn to listener, calm and feedback and on Facebook, Emmett 672 00:31:02,839 --> 00:31:06,079 Rights regarding the episode The Big Family, this was a 673 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:09,960 surprisingly good episode. In order to avoid spoilers, he just 674 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:14,440 leaves it at that. And regarding the episode The Big Break, 675 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:19,319 Catherine wrote, I thought this episode showed the police in 676 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,559 a good light today. If someone is shooting at them, 677 00:31:22,599 --> 00:31:25,720 there is no way they're going in breaking the door down. 678 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:29,119 Hoffman certainly was a piece of work though, And that 679 00:31:29,279 --> 00:31:33,640 comment comes from YouTube, and I definitely agree on Hoffman. 680 00:31:34,119 --> 00:31:38,640 And it's very unique, very dangerous, but still fascinating character 681 00:31:38,759 --> 00:31:41,559 and one of the best ones that you'll find in 682 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:45,680 the nineteen fifties TV series. And we have a couple 683 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:51,720 of comments over on the sight called X John Ritts 684 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:57,440 love your show, and then Laurel Rits, I think I'm 685 00:31:57,599 --> 00:32:00,720 on the second listen to all of your feeds. Depot 686 00:32:00,839 --> 00:32:05,240 Bench here eight hours overnight at the USPS on one 687 00:32:05,359 --> 00:32:08,960 point two speed covers a lot of shows. Thanks Adam 688 00:32:09,079 --> 00:32:12,799 for hours of entertainment in one place. Well, thanks so much, Laurel. 689 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,400 And for those of you who aren't in Boise. The 690 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:21,240 bench is an area in Boysey and I've never heard 691 00:32:21,359 --> 00:32:25,799 the phrase depot bench before, but it's actually kind of 692 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:30,759 helpful in that it's near the old train depot. Here 693 00:32:30,839 --> 00:32:35,559 in Boise, we don't actually have train service passenger train service, 694 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:39,400 but we used to, and now that area is a park. 695 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,279 I actually took my now three year old son down 696 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:46,680 there and he loved the engine they have on display. 697 00:32:47,279 --> 00:32:50,519 And of course I lived really close to the depot, 698 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,880 within about two and a half miles. I guess I 699 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:56,440 would have been depot Bench for about sixteen years, so 700 00:32:57,039 --> 00:33:01,039 those things. I'm really tickled when I hear the show 701 00:33:01,279 --> 00:33:05,200 is being listened to in parts of the world far away, 702 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,400 but it's also something special when you hear folks are 703 00:33:08,519 --> 00:33:11,799 listening to it within a few miles of where you live. Well, 704 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,759 thanks so much. Appreciate the comment, Lauren. Well, now it 705 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:19,200 is time to thank our Patreon supporter of the day, 706 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,359 and I want to go ahead and thank Emily. Emily 707 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:25,039 has been one of our Patreon supporters since February twenty 708 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,839 twenty one, currently supporting the podcast at the rookie level 709 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,359 of two dollars or more per month. Thanks so much 710 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,119 for your support, Emily, and that will actually do it 711 00:33:34,279 --> 00:33:37,799 for today. If you're enjoying the podcast, please follow us 712 00:33:38,119 --> 00:33:42,039 using your favorite podcast software. And if you're enjoying the 713 00:33:42,119 --> 00:33:45,640 podcast on YouTube, be sure to like the video, subscribe 714 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,759 to the channel, and mark the notification bell. We'll be 715 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:52,880 back next Saturday with another episode of Dragon It, and 716 00:33:53,039 --> 00:33:57,039 join us back here next Tuesday for hot copy. But 717 00:33:57,519 --> 00:34:02,000 we will be back tomorrow with all four thousand, six 718 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,880 hundred and fiftieth episode special. 719 00:34:05,039 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 13: Where all right, doc? Now it's your turn. You mentioned 720 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:15,760 the letter, Yes, yes, here read it? You quite are 721 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:19,239 all alike murderers. Honest people aren't safe from butchers like you. 722 00:34:19,639 --> 00:34:21,079 If the law won't punish. 723 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:22,239 Speaker 10: You, I will be avenger. 724 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:25,079 Speaker 13: Now she went to a lot of trouble, didn't She 725 00:34:25,559 --> 00:34:27,840 cut out all the letters on the magazine. She reads 726 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:31,039 like a woman could be a man. Of course, I 727 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:32,760 suppose you handle this, haven't, June? 728 00:34:34,039 --> 00:34:37,559 Speaker 10: You mean fingerprints? Yes, I guess so. 729 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:39,880 Speaker 6: I didn't know what it was. Of course, Well it 730 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,000 doesn't matter. Dark. She probably wore gloves. 731 00:34:42,639 --> 00:34:44,599 Speaker 8: I wouldn't worry too much about it. You wouldn't worry 732 00:34:44,639 --> 00:34:46,519 about it. No, no, it's not addressed to you. 733 00:34:46,679 --> 00:34:49,119 Speaker 13: No, no, no, take it easy. I only meant we 734 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,559 get hundreds of poison pen stuff like this every year. 735 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:53,880 Ninety nine percent of them turn out to be crank 736 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,760 letters and the other one percent, Lieutenant, what do they 737 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:57,280 turn out to be? 738 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,599 Speaker 1: Hope you'll be with us then in the mean? Send 739 00:35:00,679 --> 00:35:06,159 your comments to Box thirteen at Greatdetectives dot net, follow 740 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:10,119 us on Twitter at Radio Detectives, and check us out 741 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:16,280 on Instagram, Instagram, dot com, slash Great Detectives from Boise, Idaho. 742 00:35:16,559 --> 00:35:19,400 This is your host, Adam Graham signing off.