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Speaker 4: Let's get out to the hotline.

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Speaker 3: Welcome and former BYU great ballers shot collar. We got JT.

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Jonathan Tabnari on the line. JT for three. How the

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heck are you, buddy?

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Speaker 1: You know I was driving back from Phoenix. I was

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in Phoenix this weekend for a sashion of the Adida

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circuit for my boy. And as I drove back through

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flag Staff and Page and actually drove through Bryce Canyon,

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you didn't stop at I stopped at Ruby In and

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I said, hey, I need to see the manager. Do

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you know Ben Critter? And he said Ben who? And

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I said Ben Crittle? Yes, the end, d Yu. He said,

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I don't know who Ben Crittle is, but I know

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who Jonathan Tabernari is.

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Speaker 4: Who was this man? Who was this manager you speak of?

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What is his name? I need to go reintroduce myself.

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Speaker 1: Half of that story is true. I'm gonna leave. I'm

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gonna let you decide which part has not. Ben.

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Speaker 4: Did you really stop by Rubies though? Did you stop

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by Bryce?

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Speaker 1: I did drive by Bryce, but I did not stop

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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, Well, dude, you gotta let me know

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when you when you want.

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Speaker 4: To head down there with the fam. We'll get you

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hooked up. You know, we'll take care of you. JT.

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Speaker 1: I will say. I will say this, Ben, I needed

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to go to Phoenix. That is true. We were there

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for the Adida Circuit. Were actually the number one team

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in the country, India Adida Circus. Right now, we're sixteen

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and one and absolutely killing in the seventh grade division.

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But it was the first time in my life, Bend.

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I actually drove through at Beaver. We turned left and

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we went through Peguige and Mary View, Order View and

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page flag Staff, and I felt like I was at

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Disneyland at cars Land Bend because that wasn't Yeah, yeah, exactly,

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Ben and Bright Canyon. I mean, honestly, Ben, you know,

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Kirie and I were talking about to be able to

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get out and go over there and hikes and you know,

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outdoors fun stuff, and obviously knowing that we have a

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connection down there with BUYU at Ruby's in and so

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what a beautiful place, and definitely excited to get out

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's crazy. You bring up a really good point.

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Speaker 3: I always say, don't go to the mouse head on,

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cars World, if you love Big Thunder Mountain. That's the

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inspiration from whence it came. That's Bryce Canyon at Disneyland.

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All they did, oh Disneyland is just copy the Wonders

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of the Earth and bring them all and remake them

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there at Disneyland.

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Speaker 4: So check out Bryce Canyon. It's the real deal.

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Speaker 3: Speaking of real deal, the BYU basketball team gets there,

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gets themselves a nice victory at the Huntsman they moved

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to what fifteen and one. How big of a win

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Speaker 1: You know, I gotta tell you, I think it was

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a solid win. You know, in this day and age

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where people are putting way too much emphasis on style,

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points and pointing for rainshow and points spread, I just

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don't get it, Ben, you know, like I truly don't

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get it. Now. I get the spread, and I get

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covering over and under.

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Speaker 5: But like I you know, in the media, and.

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Speaker 1: You know, like YU was dalk two spots and the

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top twenty five, they fell to eleven after a win.

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did what they were supposed to do. They went into

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an environment that you know, can we just for a second, man,

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forget about the rivalry when the huntsmen's center expect the

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way that it was. It's a top twenty five venue

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in college basketball. And but that's the problem, right, it

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never happens like that. That's a different conversation, a different argument.

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don't care about Utah and if they're good or bad,

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that's a rivalry game. And so Byu did what he

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BYU blew next year, and uh, you know, like it

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was just a great game. And you know, Richie Thing

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rebound and aid offensive rebounds, Robert Wright sealed the doo,

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and rebounds and so so it was a great win

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Speaker 3: It hasn't happened all that often recently. BYU has struggled

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Speaker 4: Why use that?

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Speaker 3: Why is it that Utah plays their best game versus

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b WHYU there there at Hudson Center the best game

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just look sad, and you know, like I just I

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truly feel this, Ben, And I have a question for you,

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because you've been covering the rivalry a little bit more

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closely than I can, regardless if it's basketball or football.

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a dig at Utah or a Utah and their fence.

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non BYU games you can hear a needle drop at Huntsman.

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Speaker 3: I think certain segments of any fan base right are

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gonna hate certain UH individuals from the the opposing fan

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base right.

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Speaker 1: For you then becomes why is it that ninety nine

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percent of BYU games are seventy five eighty percent plus

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sold dow or not so dow a capacity. Let's put

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that way. Seventy five eighty percent are a capacity and

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at the Huntsman Center, ninety five percent of their games

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are at fifteen percent think opacity? Why is that?

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Speaker 3: I mean that's something probably university, the University of Utah

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the Majeris era like that thing was sold out and

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they were winning, and and and a winner is going

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to attract fans, right, we want to go to games

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Speaker 4: Winning, uh and and and.

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Speaker 3: Look, Utah football attracts a lot of fans. They actually

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have fans up there and they they sell out for football,

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why aren't they selling out for basketball? Uh, it's unfortunate

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that that that's that's where they're at right now. And

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when they do show up, it's because b YU is

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Speaker 4: That's what we know.

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Speaker 1: And then so you know, like I look at that

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and you know, like it was just it was a

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great atmosphere watching on TV. I had, you know, a

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Speaker 2: It was electric.

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Speaker 1: Talking to a lot of my media member friends and

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and a lot of all their friends that were at

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the game, they were ecstatic to be there. And so,

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that community, they just don't buy into what what the

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you know, the BUYU program is selling and uh, you know,

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credit credit to Alex Jensen Trore having their boys ready

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to go. Some of their players looked really good. Chance

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Derek Dawes that played the bu yudas you know, definitely

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good the lefty shooter and the other shooter were good,

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you know, so like it was a great competitive and

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fun game, and you know it was created for a

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great al was here and uh, you know BYU is

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two and one conference, which is a huge thing to do.

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Speaker 3: THEA is fifteen and one. They are one of I

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think only a few. They may be the only team

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that has five quad one wins. They're only lost to

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Yukon on a neutral court, and they have two quad

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two wins. They are trending in the right direction. What

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has been the best win of the season and why

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Speaker 1: So, I'm probably gonna say Wisconsin, right because that was

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a top twenty five team at the time the YU

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played them by you beat them by thirty weave, I

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three at the time. You weren't. That game sounds about right,

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and that team actually went to Michigan number one or

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number two Michigan and actually won over the weekend. Yep,

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So like a massive win right now for Buyu obviously

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playing at the Garden against Clemson. Uh that was just

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a highlight win, you know, kind of like a cherry

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on the top. But at this point, Ben, you know,

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like every win in the Big twelve is just important.

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You know, like they got they got big games this

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week coming up, right, do you you? They? On Wednesday

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they play at home and uh, you know, with a

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great matchup against TCU against he was eleven and five

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coached by a guy the recruiting in high school, Jamie Dixon,

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and uh, they had a couple of sweet sixteen runs

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over there, and uh, you know, uh and the Tulsen's

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boy Canner plays for TCU. Now he's also getting a

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nice bag of nil money. And so it's just, you know,

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winning in the Big twelve is hard. Winning on the

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Big twelve on the road is hard. Having a winning

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BYU has a great opportunity, you know, winning winning on

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Speaker 3: JT for three Jonathan Tavnari talking BLAU basketball here on

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Speaker 4: If Wisconsin's the best win, where.

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Speaker 3: Would Utah be ranked? I mean, it's still I know

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it's a quad to win, but it's your rival. If

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Speaker 1: I'll probably say that the Utah win right now. You know,

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I'm going over this catcher right now, and I probably

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put that win. You know, it's definitely better than Holy Cross,

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Speaker 5: Conference and you know, they have to be the good.

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Speaker 1: CCU game to play.

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Speaker 5: Then they play at Kansas, who's.

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Speaker 1: Not ranked anymore, you know, and then in February they

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play Baylor. Colorado is off to a great start. UCF

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is a solid team this year, and so you know,

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b Are you? Absolutely not? Right? But I would dare

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the regular season, before postseason starts. I would say that

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aside from the top twenty five wins wins, and you know,

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that win will probably be, you know, the buy sixth

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or seventh best win of the season.

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Speaker 3: Jonathan Devon r Alright, let's talk a little bit about

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the Utah game. The Todd King was balling rob right,

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the third kind of took over things in the at

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the end of the game. Obviously, aj gets a ninth

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i think ninth consecutive twenty point game.

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Speaker 4: He's one of the best scorers.

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Speaker 3: In UH in college basketball, and he may end up becoming,

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at least from a single season standpoint, the best scorer

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all time in b YU basketball history.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, we'll see how that plays out.

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Speaker 3: But what stood out to you about the Utah win,

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specifically from the BAU.

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Speaker 1: Side, Well, so, you know, I think let's start with

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the with the with the break three.

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Speaker 5: Let me give a little bit of credit to my buddy.

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Speaker 1: Jerem Jordan and Jackson Payne. Break three is really good.

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I voted for the three knee fights. My wife suggested

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the three kings. The trimple combination is also really good.

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The by you know, the b YU Trinity is up

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there as well, and uh, you know, we got we

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so but you know, the brig the Brig three, Robert

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in the second. Six of his eight points came down

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to clutch in the last four or five minutes of

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the game. I thought he was surgical, right, Richie, just

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the heart of a lion and being able to fight

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and keep fighting and end his career with a win

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at Utah aj living up the moment and then throwing

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the you down, you know already become he's already a

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fan saver. And then you know he is definitely, uh,

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he is definitely one of those guys that live in

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a moment, and throwing the you down as he goes

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to the tunnel just becomes an instant classic. Outside of

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the break three, I would say, Keva and the pullback

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dunk right reminisce a little bit of Joie Child's fast

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from TJ. Haws. And then you know, impressed with how

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Cunard played defense, very very impressed without am ed Adua

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Amed Beatle is coming along fast, and so you look

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at that. It makes exciting for what they have. Still

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wish Mahilo was better at shooting. Still wish he was

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more aggressive looking to shoot. Same thing with you know

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all I say probably is the biggest disappointment aside from

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the injuries, right, A lot of us expected out of him.

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I feel like he's passing up a lot of shots

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and uh where I totally believe the b YU team,

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the BYU coaching staff. Definitely I would appreciate for him

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to be a little bit more aggressive. And so to me,

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that's the one thing that's missing on this team. It's

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a foe man that can spread the floor, right, and

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we've had some great ones at b YU. Michael Smith

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probably the ultimate you know, spread the floor in terms

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of being able to be aggressive. But he was such

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up your scorer that he might have conflict with the

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big three in terms of getting touches. Right, someone kind

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of like me, kind of like Noah Hartsock that's very

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defensive minded. You know, had uh Steven Rogers that came

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after my senior year. He had been a little bit

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you know, more healthy and and a better shooter. You know,

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someone like Zach Sallya's that would be like perfect for this,

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you know, for for this, and so to me that's

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what that's what this team is missing, but an incredible

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team effort.

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Speaker 4: Nonetheless, the missing pieces.

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Speaker 3: Can we develop those pieces even though they haven't shown

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up just yet?

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Speaker 1: Sorry? Ben, that cut off? Can you repeat the question?

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Speaker 3: Can you meant you mentioned the missing pieces right now?

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Can b why you developed those pieces with the that.

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Speaker 2: They have no?

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Speaker 1: No, no, what you see is what you get at

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disappointing time. We just need to hope that you know,

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the Big three stays healthy and uh you know that

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also Keba stays healthy, Abdula stays healthy, and that those

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other guys can come in and just give you know,

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I think that in all honesty, if you know, on

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a basketball game, you have about two hundred minutes every game, right,

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each player can play, each player can play forty minutes.

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You have five players, that's two hundred minutes. I would

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Speaker 5: Three would play one hundred minutes.

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Speaker 1: And you would hope that non Big three minutes would

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if they could somehow be under one hundred every game,

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you know, between ninety if by a miracle of heaven,

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they could be under ninety to preserve them, that would

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be incredible. But if that's not possible, I would probably say,

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you know, keeping those minutes at you know, between ninety

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and one hundred would be perfect. And then also if

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you could make that the non big three points, that's

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a big one, non big three points would be above

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above thirty every game. If it could be thirty five,

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then you could see that. Okay, something is brewing here.

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But the way this team, the way this team is

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built right now, there's not a whole lot of production

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coming from you know, anybody not named AJ and Rob

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and Richie, you know, and I would say Kaba too,

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but not not much coming from anybody else at this point.

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Speaker 3: Obviously the Big three they've they've definitely produced a lot

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of points and you need them to stay healthy. I

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have a question from a listener here. He said, did

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JT just infer that he was defensive minded? I think

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many think that JT was all about the three point

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shot in offensive production.

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Speaker 4: What would you say to that question?

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Speaker 1: Go look at defensive wind shares and who is top

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five and BYU.

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Speaker 4: History boom the data.

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Speaker 1: So hey, men, lie, women lie. Numbers don't lie. And

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so what I can tell you is when he comes

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to defensive wind shares, you know, like I don't remember

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if I was like four or fifth, but I'm definitely

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in the top five. I know that because I was

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talking to Chris Miles and Kyle Collinsworth the other day

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and we were we were talking about exactly this, and

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it was like, you know, all of the all of

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the records and good team, and I remember, now we'll

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spark this. John Rothstein said, twelve win streak is the

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longest in program history. John, you need to go read

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a book or google the internet because the eighty seven

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eighty eighteen got off to a seventeen and oh star

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my senior year, we got fifteen straight wins when I

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volunteered to come up the bench and became the first

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six minute the year in program history. And so yeah,

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so like it's you know, go look it up. I'm

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not making it up. I am one of the best,

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one of the best defenders in BYU history when he

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comes to winds Share. So so talking about.

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Speaker 3: Jat bringing the data, bringing the numbers. Stats, don't lie,

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Jonathan Tabnaari, ladies and gentlemen always breaking it down. Nobody

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does it better up some breaking news here on the

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recruiting front for football real quick if I may, And

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this is this is big for Michigan fans, not so

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big for Utah fans. This one hurts as Ron or

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excuse me, as Brandon Gurney says, shot.

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Speaker 4: Through the heart.

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Speaker 3: Celessie Moa, a four star wide receiver, has entered the

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transfer portal from the University of Utah, so he could

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be ending up at Michigan with his brother Ice.

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Speaker 4: We'll see how it plays out. Yes, indeed does it?

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Speaker 3: Does it feel good to see Utah's football players, you know,

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de commit enter the portal and and go elsewhere?

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Speaker 4: JT Are you petty like that?

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Speaker 1: So I gotta tell you I'm not petty like that.

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I am patty when after games they come in and

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start attacking me. I mean, Ben, if you look at

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my Twitter, my ex timeline, I was nothing but complimentary

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about their team, about the arena, about their fans, doing

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a game until some dude comes to me and says, Oh,

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you don't know you're talking about And at that point

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I'm like, I'm being positive, Like I like that fifty

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cent meme, like what you're met at me for like

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I'm being complimentary and you said that, and at that

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point I'm like, listen, my guy, let me, let me

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put you on your place. And at that point I

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become patty. But you know, like I you know, like

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I don't care like you know, Utah, I'm such a

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lover of the state of Utah. The state of Utah,

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I means so much to me. I'm a firm believer

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that I want Utah basketball to be good because that

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elevates the elevates the visibility in the entire state. And

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so like when Utah football is really good and BYU

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football is really good, that's great for the state. Every

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single time that Utah is good, they show shots of

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simple square. It's a great missionary tool. And so like,

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I'm not petty unless someone pokes me the wrong way,

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and then I don't have a filter and I don't

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know when to stop. It's kind of like my wife

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makes the perfect example. Sometimes I get really mad at

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my kids right because they did something wrong, and she

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relates this to a little fender bender, and I go

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above and beyond, and instead of just leaving a defender bender,

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I pull out a baseball bat and I go like

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the little you know in between fights mode on Street

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Fight Street Fighter and I just destroyed a card you

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remember that? And then yeah, like that's what I do,

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like I and so I don't know when to stop.

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And so if you poke me and I'm like okay,

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sounds like I has to put you back on your place.

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And that's when I go nuts.

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Speaker 3: My guy, Jonathan Tavanaar Ladies and gentlemen, JG. I always

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Pete Nakos of on three and Rivals. That's a nice

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00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:40,759
pickup for b YU. Also Crystal Ball of Pockey Fenale.

475
00:26:40,799 --> 00:26:45,000
The transfer from you dub the offensive gord will be

476
00:26:45,039 --> 00:26:47,640
a reg I think it will be a sophomore reger freshman.

477
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,880
He's got some experience as a starter on the interier

478
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,920
offensive line and in the Big Ten. Pockey Faw would

479
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:59,240
be a fantastic acquisition as well. But Junior Cu six

480
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,680
foot six, right sophomore, three hundred and eight pounds and

481
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,680
was really good for the Utah State Aggies this year

482
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,880
just committed to the BYU Cougars.

483
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 4: That makes uh I believe two.

484
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:16,519
Speaker 3: Officially Zach yama Uchi from Stanford UH He's committed to BYU,

485
00:27:16,599 --> 00:27:19,440
a product out of Bishop Gorman, multiple starts under his

486
00:27:19,519 --> 00:27:22,839
belt at Stanford with with I think he's got three

487
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,880
or four years of eligibility as well. Left uh so

488
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,799
Zach yama Uchi and uh Paki Fina could be on

489
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:33,319
the docket as well as Junior Sea let's talk some

490
00:27:33,519 --> 00:27:36,440
BYU football in the world, the BYU sports with Brady

491
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:38,680
papinga beat pop, how you living brother.

492
00:27:39,759 --> 00:27:42,400
Speaker 2: Not man always gonna jump on buddy. Sounds like we

493
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:44,839
got some good action into the transfer portal. That's fine.

494
00:27:45,279 --> 00:27:47,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, BYU is going to be a

495
00:27:48,039 --> 00:27:52,599
much more strategic than than others. I think when you

496
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,960
look at their transfer portal acquisitions, I mean they're up

497
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,680
to four with a potential five right now. They've lost

498
00:27:58,839 --> 00:28:02,559
eleven guys, uh, but they haven't lost any like key starters.

499
00:28:02,559 --> 00:28:05,039
Speaker 4: Max Alfred and Tavion Beasley and Sonny.

500
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:06,839
Speaker 3: Tuala are the three that I'm like, ah that that

501
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:08,680
counter is an't even Marcus McKenzie.

502
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:10,799
Speaker 4: Uh, those guys kind of hurt.

503
00:28:10,839 --> 00:28:14,839
Speaker 3: But BLA is gonna be probably different and singular in

504
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:18,079
the sense that they don't allow a whole lot of

505
00:28:18,079 --> 00:28:22,119
of attrition and they're looking for specific UH players in

506
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,880
the portal. How would you describe how would you describe

507
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:29,559
BYU's recruiting efforts and retention and acquisition in the new

508
00:28:29,599 --> 00:28:31,559
era of the transfer portal era?

509
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:36,519
Speaker 2: Well, I think they invest emily in developing, so it

510
00:28:36,599 --> 00:28:38,759
reminds me of with the Green Bay Packers. You know

511
00:28:38,799 --> 00:28:42,039
because the Packers you can you can basically get your

512
00:28:42,119 --> 00:28:44,480
draft class into your building and you got it locked

513
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:48,559
in for three years, right, you can't really get free

514
00:28:48,559 --> 00:28:51,759
agents coming into Green Bay. And so green Bay is like, hey,

515
00:28:51,799 --> 00:28:54,400
we're gonna draft and develop. And what they realized and

516
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,759
the and the Steelers realize this too, is that when

517
00:28:57,759 --> 00:28:59,359
you do that, not only do you get to keep

518
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,880
guys under your program and see a year over year

519
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,039
improvement as drastic because they're stacking year on year on

520
00:29:06,119 --> 00:29:08,119
year and they're not having to go to another position

521
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,039
or another place and reset. And then on top of it,

522
00:29:11,039 --> 00:29:13,279
there's a loyalty factor that's built into that too, because

523
00:29:13,279 --> 00:29:15,920
it's like, Yeah, these guys believed in me. What I

524
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,680
see with THEYU it's coming from a different place because

525
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,559
guess what, Provo is a desirable place to go if

526
00:29:21,599 --> 00:29:26,920
you compared it to Ains, Iowa, Lincoln, Nebraska, Manhattan, Kansas.

527
00:29:27,519 --> 00:29:30,000
I can name a number of other places. Promo is

528
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,319
a sweet place. Provo Ormon is a really nice place

529
00:29:32,319 --> 00:29:33,880
to go. So I don't think the OEO is a

530
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:37,799
problem getting guys there, but I believe the reason why

531
00:29:38,359 --> 00:29:40,359
they want to keep as many guys possible and the

532
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,039
guys that are there want to be there is first,

533
00:29:42,039 --> 00:29:45,759
they enjoy it. Bannie creates a very enjoyable culture to

534
00:29:45,759 --> 00:29:48,519
play football at and his coaches buy into it. And

535
00:29:48,559 --> 00:29:51,519
then on top of it, it's extremely competitive, so you

536
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:53,359
get to do the very thing which you love, which

537
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,920
is compete playball. And then at the same time you

538
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:57,920
get to do in a place that's desirable to live in,

539
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:01,160
which is Provo Utah or them. And then on top

540
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:02,920
of it, you do it in a way to where

541
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,079
the culture is built and where it's fun and you

542
00:30:05,119 --> 00:30:07,440
want to keep doing it. I mean, there's not a

543
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,400
surprise as the last couple of years they've been in

544
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,319
bull games and we've done well relatively because guys when

545
00:30:12,319 --> 00:30:15,000
they're going into these extra practices where there's really between

546
00:30:15,119 --> 00:30:17,319
quotations not allowed to play for it, they don't care

547
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:21,079
because they love the game, and that's because of Fannie

548
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:24,559
being there. And then that also is because they're having

549
00:30:25,079 --> 00:30:28,480
this desire to want to improve, because they're seeing the

550
00:30:28,559 --> 00:30:30,960
year over year improvement and they want to keep pushing it.

551
00:30:31,599 --> 00:30:33,480
And so it's a smart thing to do because the

552
00:30:33,519 --> 00:30:36,359
teams that keep their players, in my opinion, and can

553
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,720
develop them and have year over year retention at the

554
00:30:39,799 --> 00:30:42,039
highest and you're getting that extra year to you know,

555
00:30:42,039 --> 00:30:45,880
you're stacking year after year atops each other consistently. They're

556
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,480
they're going to be the best teams because those are

557
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:49,720
going to be the teams that are gonna be able to

558
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:53,920
master their schemes, master their requisite skill sets, and they're

559
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:55,200
going to be the ones that are gonna play at

560
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,799
a high level of proficiency. These other schools are going

561
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,519
to have to simple if they're in their transport. Honestly,

562
00:31:00,799 --> 00:31:03,519
they're gonna have to simplify their schemes and they're gonna

563
00:31:03,519 --> 00:31:04,880
have to run the resk on a year and year

564
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:06,839
out basis. That makes you get some guys in there

565
00:31:06,839 --> 00:31:08,680
that just don't take to your schemes as you had

566
00:31:08,759 --> 00:31:11,640
previously and they won't be as good, which puts them

567
00:31:11,759 --> 00:31:15,160
behind a team that's able to retain and like I said,

568
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,880
build that year over year improvement. So I think the

569
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,400
philosophy is sound. I love it, and it comes from

570
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,759
both ends. And this is one of those byproducts where

571
00:31:23,799 --> 00:31:27,680
we at BYU have an advantage because it is unique.

572
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,440
The culture there is right and like I said, probo

573
00:31:30,559 --> 00:31:32,519
just so happens to be a really nice place to

574
00:31:32,559 --> 00:31:36,519
go and live and play your football and go to school.

575
00:31:36,599 --> 00:31:38,599
And and like I said, when you compare that to

576
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:40,799
a lot, I mean, even like you know, Seattle, it

577
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,680
is a lot nicer than Seattle. Reason is you get

578
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:47,559
to see the sun Seattle, Oregon, those areas it's dark

579
00:31:47,599 --> 00:31:50,200
and dreary, and if you're good as that, but most

580
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,000
people just aren't. I mean that's just the reality. So

581
00:31:52,039 --> 00:31:54,480
there's there's a lot of things that by are doing.

582
00:31:54,599 --> 00:31:58,440
BYU is doing its leveraging the attractiveness of their school,

583
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,559
which is culture and the desire place to live, and

584
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,119
they're they're gonna get the results. Well, you'll see it

585
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,279
next year. In the year after it's going to exponentially

586
00:32:06,279 --> 00:32:07,960
it really starts to happen. Or do you get guys

587
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:09,720
that are in there and they have like with Bear

588
00:32:09,799 --> 00:32:12,839
for example, he is going to have the biggest leap

589
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:14,960
next year in terms of improvement as long as he

590
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,400
stays healthy then he would ever have had if you'd

591
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,400
got in the portal and gone to some other school

592
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:20,599
like Notre Dame or whatever.

593
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 1: You know.

594
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 2: And so it's a very sound culture. And like I said,

595
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,039
I've seen it personally work very well. That's why you

596
00:32:26,079 --> 00:32:27,680
see a lot of these teams like the Packers and

597
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:31,319
the Steelers and the Chiefs are another one that they

598
00:32:31,359 --> 00:32:33,400
tend to do well and they've done well over years

599
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:37,519
because drafting, developing, or retaining your talent leads to a

600
00:32:37,519 --> 00:32:39,799
lot of really good benefits of team buildings.

601
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,119
Speaker 3: We do have some breaking news now in the midst

602
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:47,319
of it all. Pockey Female the Washington transfer, has committed

603
00:32:47,359 --> 00:32:48,599
to b YU.

604
00:32:48,839 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 4: We've had.

605
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 3: Out of the acquisitions thus far, three of them are

606
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:59,160
offensive lineman, two of them are guards. We got Zach

607
00:32:59,359 --> 00:33:05,480
Yamauch from Stamford LDS, Kid Pocky Fenw from Washington, and

608
00:33:05,519 --> 00:33:09,640
then uh Junior Sea from Utah State. To tackle your

609
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:13,160
thoughts your reaction to the news, Well.

610
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 2: It's what the all you need to go into the offseason.

611
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,160
You're always looking to fort to five year fronts, your

612
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:21,319
offensive and defensive fronts, whether through recruiting or through the portal,

613
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:23,880
and you can see that that's exactly where they're putting

614
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,680
their their priority. I would imagine we should be seeing

615
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,519
something come down with more skilled players on the edges

616
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:32,559
we have. You know, we've seen Ari with Tasper and

617
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,400
Yep with Ryder, Luck older brother, those guys that we're

618
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,160
hoping to come in and be and basically what you

619
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,599
want of those guys you want to make I don't

620
00:33:41,599 --> 00:33:43,440
know if you guys watching any Indiana game. I don't

621
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,680
know if Kid's name, but number I think he's their

622
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,720
big receiver who's six four sixty five. He's a nightmare.

623
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,599
And Manda Man coverage. You want to make defenses, and

624
00:33:51,799 --> 00:33:55,039
today's are especially League defenses has to question do we

625
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,680
really want to play a man's demand, because all you

626
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,400
need is one guy that can absolutely just roy any

627
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,359
Manda Man matchup, and all of a sudden, it puts

628
00:34:02,519 --> 00:34:04,920
doubt in the defensive coordinator you're facing whether or not

629
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,480
they should do that, which is good for us because actually,

630
00:34:07,559 --> 00:34:09,800
if you don't run Manda Man in theory and a

631
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:13,480
lot of times conceptually, those defenses aren't as strong against

632
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,079
the runs. So I'd like to see, yeah, we can

633
00:34:16,119 --> 00:34:18,280
probably see some more there that on the defensive side,

634
00:34:18,599 --> 00:34:20,239
you know, maybe we'd get some more help, you know,

635
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:21,840
in the middle of our defense. Not to say the

636
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,119
guys last year weren't phenomenal. I know ten Ton of

637
00:34:24,119 --> 00:34:25,480
Aus is coming back and he's going to be an

638
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,159
anchor there, but we need to still see improvement there.

639
00:34:28,199 --> 00:34:29,760
And then also I would say on the edge of

640
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:33,079
the cornerback position, always adding guys that can play Manda

641
00:34:33,079 --> 00:34:34,599
man just as much as you want guys that could

642
00:34:34,599 --> 00:34:37,800
beat Manda Manter equally as important. So uh, I think

643
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,920
there's still root for us to continue to add guys

644
00:34:41,079 --> 00:34:44,519
and improve our squad. But yeah, I think that the

645
00:34:44,639 --> 00:34:47,000
number one foundation for on offense is your offensive line,

646
00:34:47,039 --> 00:34:48,800
especially if you want to run the power football game

647
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,480
that we do. And this is right in line with

648
00:34:51,519 --> 00:34:55,039
where the team's mental focuses at, which is really good.

649
00:34:55,639 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 3: It looks like kid Ulu Lave could end up at

650
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:02,719
by you as well. Most recent reports are that Michigan

651
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:06,320
may not get them. I don't think uc LA is

652
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,280
gonna get him. He wants to maybe possibly come back home.

653
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:15,719
Kate l linebacker U formerly from here in the state

654
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:17,559
of Utah. Obviously he has been at Cal for the

655
00:35:17,639 --> 00:35:18,840
last three seasons.

656
00:35:19,159 --> 00:35:20,199
Speaker 4: What do you know about Kate?

657
00:35:21,519 --> 00:35:23,679
Speaker 2: Well, see, that's another area that we've I'd like to

658
00:35:23,679 --> 00:35:26,360
see is improved. Like I said, I thought Sarah last

659
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,519
year was solid. He had some games where he was excellent,

660
00:35:29,079 --> 00:35:31,360
But off the ball backing is going to be a priority.

661
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:33,760
We gotta have guys that can be tough, they can

662
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:35,920
line up tough. We gotta have guys that are going

663
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,079
to be the right place at the right time every

664
00:35:38,159 --> 00:35:40,480
day because they're the guys that are ultimately the fillers

665
00:35:41,119 --> 00:35:43,320
and they're the guys that make everybody right at least

666
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,199
in the front and uh and then they connect themselves

667
00:35:46,199 --> 00:35:48,239
to the back end in terms of fitting into the coverage.

668
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,519
Texas Tech I thought was an excellent example of that.

669
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:54,519
They're two backers. They're not overly talented, they don't have

670
00:35:54,639 --> 00:35:57,280
physical traits they're gonna jump off the page. You know

671
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,719
that Rodriguez kid, everybody talks about, Oh he's a you

672
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,320
know what, I don't know because he doesn't have any

673
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,480
special attribute. But is he an NFL Albert player? Absolutely,

674
00:36:06,519 --> 00:36:09,079
probably a sixth you know, sixth seventh round or his

675
00:36:09,159 --> 00:36:11,719
six seventh rounder guy. But the point is is the

676
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:13,559
reason why they were so good is those guys were

677
00:36:13,639 --> 00:36:16,079
very cerebral. They knew where to be. They were rarely

678
00:36:16,079 --> 00:36:18,239
ever out of position. They knew how to connect the

679
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,920
secondary and coverage to the front. They were able to

680
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:22,639
fill in the gas in the front and be the

681
00:36:22,639 --> 00:36:25,400
guy to make everybody, right, we need guys like that

682
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,679
across the board. Now, Jack and you know Isaiah have

683
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:29,079
done that at a high level. But we need to

684
00:36:29,079 --> 00:36:30,800
get better there. Because if we get better there, I'll

685
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,679
tell you what, our run defense will improve drastically, even

686
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:35,960
more so than it has been, and that will set

687
00:36:36,039 --> 00:36:40,199
up everything coverage, rush and so that that I think

688
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,360
is a nice It's an interesting one because I think

689
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,320
that could be a really good fit for what we're needing.

690
00:36:45,559 --> 00:36:47,519
Speaker 4: Brady Vivega here on ESP and the Fan.

691
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:52,639
Speaker 3: Kelly uh had some of his first interviews as defensive coordinator.

692
00:36:52,679 --> 00:36:54,960
He was asked what the defense will look like in

693
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:59,880
twenty twenty six. He mentioned, the defense will be a

694
00:37:00,119 --> 00:37:02,000
little taste of Bronco in there, a little taste of

695
00:37:02,079 --> 00:37:04,960
what we've done last year. I've learned so much, but

696
00:37:05,039 --> 00:37:07,199
the base of the defense will be what it's been.

697
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,039
I'd been idiot to change much of what we're doing,

698
00:37:10,159 --> 00:37:13,440
but there will be little different things here and there.

699
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,760
Speaker 4: But what do you think the defense will look like

700
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:17,280
next year?

701
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 2: Well, Kelly, this smart guy, and I know you know

702
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,119
everything that I say. For a lot of people may

703
00:37:22,159 --> 00:37:24,159
be like, well, you're his brother, of course you're gonna

704
00:37:24,159 --> 00:37:27,239
say smart court. Okay, So I'm just gonna be real.

705
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:30,880
Kell's not dumb. Kelly, he's not dumb. If something is working,

706
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,360
he is going to do it until it doesn't work anymore.

707
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:37,599
So you're gonna see Arry, I would say, from a

708
00:37:37,639 --> 00:37:39,760
fans perspective that has the basic fun of them on

709
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,559
knowledge of defense, You're gonna think you're seeing the same

710
00:37:42,639 --> 00:37:45,119
defense as you saw last year. Sure, there's gonna be

711
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some nuances and some concepts that Kelly likes, and like

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I said that, or like he said that that have

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maybe not been implemented that we're with Bronco, and I'm

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obviously have the passes off to klawannee uh. But predominantly

715
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that defense is gonna look the same, and it's gonna

716
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be some same kind of multipliplicity element, a lot of

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simulated plittes, a lot of pressure by the man. There's

718
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gonna be like I said, I don't think there's any

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reason to change, and Kelly understands that, and so I

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would say it's gonna look very similar. And then Kelly's

721
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also gonna find ways to put his little spin on things. Man,

722
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He's got some nice little chematic nuances up his belts

723
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that you know, he'll pull out every so often and

724
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I'm like, wow, where are you get there? Really good?

725
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Speaker 1: You know?

726
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Speaker 2: And that makes a difference. When you've been around guys

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like Bronco and Jay and Klawnie and Gary Anderson and uh,

728
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you know, the guys that he was coaching with at Virginia.

729
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You kind of accumulate this stuff over time. And then

730
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also when you watch your offense play against certain defenses,

731
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you pay attention to Kelly's been like that. He's absorbed

732
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a lot of good defensive football and he's not going

733
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to hold anything back.

734
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Speaker 3: What do you think the pitch is right now to

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keep so many of the key players here at b YU.

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Speaker 4: I mean, he has not lost.

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Speaker 3: One key contributing defensive player on this roster, like you know,

738
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guys that they prioritize. You can make an argument for

739
00:39:08,119 --> 00:39:11,639
Max Alford or Tavon Beasley or Marcus mackenzie. I'm willing

740
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to hear that, but I haven't really lost anybody.

741
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Speaker 4: And so what has been his pitch do you think

742
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to keep everybody well?

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Speaker 2: I think the biggest thing is that comes down to,

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like I initially said, which they like playing at the YU.

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They enjoy it. First second, you want to know that

746
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you're gonna do the same thing you did last year,

747
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:32,880
because there's nothing more refreshing from a player standpoint than

748
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:36,079
to build year over year. And I can speak to

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that because I've played four different positions in my four

750
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years at UYU, and by the way, I don't know

751
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,559
if people realize that I'm the only player in BYU

752
00:39:44,679 --> 00:39:48,199
history to get All Conference at three different positions. I

753
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,280
was a four to three edge guy. In my sophomore year,

754
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:53,559
I was an odd front edge guy or excuse me,

755
00:39:53,639 --> 00:39:56,800
oddfront defensive end, which is different than the four three

756
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,239
edge guy my junior year. Then my senior yuy has

757
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:02,199
moved to astball, which all three of those are very different.

758
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And then finally my rookie year, I do something that

759
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I was able to repeat three years that was refreshing,

760
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and then I did something else for another number of

761
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years and then kind of went back and forth. So

762
00:40:13,679 --> 00:40:16,599
it's like from a players stamp, like that was kind

763
00:40:16,599 --> 00:40:19,599
of my niche of always being able to change. But

764
00:40:19,679 --> 00:40:21,800
there's a disadvantage of that because you're not able to

765
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stack years on years of information, and so as a player,

766
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:27,239
when you're able to say I'm gonna do the same

767
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,239
thing last year I did this or next year that

768
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,679
did last year with all the information now and knowledge

769
00:40:31,679 --> 00:40:34,800
that I had now versus not having before that, that's

770
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,360
really good. I can really take my game to the

771
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,360
next level. And I think I see that, And like

772
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:41,280
I said, I think the culture of BYU is such

773
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:43,199
a word that it's just fun. There's no reason to

774
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:47,519
lead because it's enjoyable. In addition to their projection of

775
00:40:47,599 --> 00:40:49,639
themselves playing at a higher level next year because they're

776
00:40:49,639 --> 00:40:51,199
going to be doing the same thing that were last year.

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Speaker 3: Brady Bepinga here on ESPN the Fan talking World of

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BA Sports BYU football specifically, but a couple of last

779
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:05,320
things here, Brady, I feel like, obviously the culture of

780
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:11,119
Kilane is big, right the fact that Kelly Gary, the

781
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:14,400
essentially the defensive staff is mostly retained. They went out

782
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:16,920
and got Tomorrow Warren. I thought that was a nice acquisition.

783
00:41:18,519 --> 00:41:20,679
I think the other component of retention has got to

784
00:41:20,679 --> 00:41:25,400
be the strength, conditioning, the the human performance element, the

785
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:29,519
nutrition element, the medical staff as well, keeping these guys

786
00:41:29,519 --> 00:41:31,800
healthy and developing because it's still a developmental sport.

787
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're exactly right.

788
00:41:35,159 --> 00:41:38,039
Speaker 5: Thank you for bringing that up because I.

789
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Speaker 2: Mean, it still goes back to Kilane's culture, because like

790
00:41:40,199 --> 00:41:43,440
the performance everybody knows if they've listened to us over

791
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:46,159
the years that I was always really critical of performance

792
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,559
training the suit. You know, when Kwannie first came and

793
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the guy did something that was really ingenious. He built

794
00:41:52,119 --> 00:41:55,119
the whole structure hierarchy within the performance training space, and

795
00:41:55,119 --> 00:41:58,440
he hired Kolbe and Tyler basically be the CEO and

796
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:02,719
the COO one overseas the actual performance, which is a

797
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,960
compilation of taking data and trying to figure out when

798
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:07,960
the guys are healthy or not. And we've had phenomenal

799
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,719
numbers in terms of injury rate keeping guys ouse over

800
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:12,920
the last year. And then Kobe's over your physical therapy,

801
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:17,760
but also are combining that with the training. And then

802
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,199
you have Ryan that's come in and he answers to

803
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:23,119
both of those guys, So everybody's got to make sure

804
00:42:23,119 --> 00:42:25,599
everybody's staying healthy. And it's turned out to be a

805
00:42:25,599 --> 00:42:30,119
pretty phenomenal organization. And you're absolutely right to me. If

806
00:42:30,159 --> 00:42:33,039
I'm looking at any other school and I'm compareditive to

807
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,480
YU as a player, and let's say have these other schools,

808
00:42:35,519 --> 00:42:38,559
I'm dealing with all these injuries like stoft tissue injuries

809
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,480
or you know, shoulder back, and I can go to

810
00:42:41,519 --> 00:42:44,559
BYU and know that, hey, they've been pretty clean over

811
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the last three years. With this hierarchy of performance training,

812
00:42:48,079 --> 00:42:51,280
I'm not even thinking about the other stuff because health

813
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,840
is the number one thing, and so you're absolutely right.

814
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,960
I would I don't know, I haven't got any inside information,

815
00:42:57,039 --> 00:42:58,679
but I would like to see the numbers on that,

816
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,559
and that would be probably one of the close convincing

817
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:06,039
and influential bits of information you could share with the

818
00:43:06,079 --> 00:43:09,199
potential recruiter. Say, look, this is the average of soft

819
00:43:09,199 --> 00:43:11,840
tissue injuries or guys that basically are done through the

820
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,320
year on any other team. This is what we faced

821
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,920
over the last three years. We promise you if you

822
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:18,800
come here, odds are you're gonna be able to stay healthy,

823
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,239
stay healthy, you're gonna get really good. If you get

824
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:23,199
really good, you can be able to maximize your potential.

825
00:43:23,639 --> 00:43:27,840
That's huge, and so yeah, sorry for not bringing that up,

826
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:31,280
but that is an absolutely huge selling point for boy.

827
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You to be able to say, come work with the

828
00:43:33,119 --> 00:43:34,960
best of the business, because I don't know of any

829
00:43:35,039 --> 00:43:38,239
quite frankly, that's as good as those guys and that

830
00:43:38,519 --> 00:43:44,199
way they work and having a data profile of every

831
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:48,280
single player where right now Kobe Styler can pull up

832
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,239
any single player that's on the roster. They have three

833
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:52,000
years of data on these guys and they can say

834
00:43:52,039 --> 00:43:54,400
exactly where they are based off of a workout in

835
00:43:54,519 --> 00:43:58,199
terms of ready to play and need some work? Are

836
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they fatigued?

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Speaker 1: Are you know?

838
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Speaker 2: They can just pull back the whole curtain and give

839
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:05,639
a big story as to what is going on the inside.

840
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:07,960
Not many schools that any I'd say, there's a small

841
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amount of the schools that can actually do that. We

842
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happen to be one of them at b YU.

843
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Speaker 3: For those building out a gym, how can they get

844
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a hold of you and get their human performance up?

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Speaker 2: Brady PAPINGA Yeah, you can contact me directly at aight

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