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much for your support. A Swiss billionaire is funneling his
money into a pop up progressive advocacy group claiming to
support working families and denouncing President Trump's plans to extend
text cuts, calling them a giveaway to the ultra rich.
The name of the pop up progressive advocacy group is
Families Over Billionaires or FOB as I like to call
it the FOB. It launched when Trump returned to the
White House in January. It was set up as a
temporary entity to oppose the extension of Trump's signature twenty
seventeen tax legislation, but its eight figure fundraising campaign through
an array of pass through organizations is backed by May
want to sit down for this. It's backed by the
uber wealthy. Who would have seen that coming, right? Oh man,
the fledgling fob Families over Billionaires, which doesn't even have
a donation option on its website for the public. That's
that is a pretty big signal that this is not
a grassroots organization, right, But it's actually a trade name
of the mass of liberal dark money organization called the
sixteen thirty Fund. Sixteen thirty Fund sixteen thirty has received
two hundred and eighty million dollars from the Burger Action Fund,
an advocacy group that supports fast food. I'm kidding, it's no,
it's a different spelling of Burger. The Burger Action Fund
works with the Swiss billionaire hanjour Guise. I think it
is how he pronounces it, and his foundation called the
Wis Foundation wyss I, I don't know my uh my
Swiss is not the greatest, but is it? Is it?
Speaker 2: This?
Speaker 1: Is it? Whiz whis. Families over Billionaires is nothing more
than a front group for the dark money behemoth sixteen
thirty Fund. According to Caitlin Sutherland, who is the executive
director of Americans for Public Trust, quote, it's the height
of irony that a group that has received at least
two hundred and eighty million dollars from a foreign national
is trying to brand themselves as fighting for American families.
But see, Caitlyn overlooks something here. Right, It's different when
democrats do it. See, that's democrat privilege. So they can
do that. They can suck up all this money from
Swiss billionaires in order to undermine American democracy. They can
do all of that. It's different, that's actually democracy. See,
I don't know. Suddenly I'm in the mood for a
burger with Swiss. I don't know why. All right, let
me head over to the phones here and talk with Paul. Hello, Paul,
welcome to the show.
Speaker 3: Now, thanks for taking my call. Yes, sir, from what
you've been referring to, I think we have the same idea.
These activist protesters, they're doing this for two reasons. One
of course, is a paycheck, but it's also a lot
of fun and they get their name on their face
on TV and the fame and notoriety. But you've got
to look at who is paying notes paychecks, and it's
guys like George Soros, who has been fun in these
things like Black Lives Matter and t for all this
stuff to create havoc in this country, to create chaos.
Speaker 1: Right, it's a destabilization.
Speaker 3: He has stopped him, Nobody has stopped him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a destabilization effort. He's been engaged in for decades.
Speaker 3: Everything he's done has been anti Americans. Everything, never done
anything good for this country.
Speaker 1: Him and his son, well, yeah, son is now getting
you as taken over the operation and you know, just
posed with all of those trophies that he got aka
Democrat politicians that had to make the pilgrimage to his
New York City penthouse apartment where he got their pictures
taken and mounted on the wall to show that like
he is, he's connected. He's got all of these politicians
and he is he's you know, wealthy beyond imagination. And
that's different than Elon. See, that's so different than what
Elon Musk has been doing. Right, and he's unelected, he's
been funding all of these things and all these politicians.
See that's see, it's a completely different thing altogether. That's
why Democrats are so outraged about Elon Musk.
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know, you know, somebody's got to uh
investigate him and if everything he's done is to just
create havoc in his country. It needs to be held
accountable for that. Yeah, and maybe we've been an American citizens.
Speaker 1: Who is Soros? Yeah? Yeah, I don't remember. Yeah, I
don't remember. Do you know that for sure? Because I don't.
I don't know if I knew whether he was hungry.
Speaker 3: It's Hungary and the USA.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's good to know, all right, Paul, I appreciate
the call. No. I yes, George Soros among others, hasn't
got And his name is in this article too, by
the way, at the New York Post about the Swiss billionaire,
because they're they're the same kind, they're running the same
kind of op And I've talked about this in many
different forms. I've said that in many different ways, I think.
But the issue is never the issue. The issue is
always the revolution. That's going back to the topic of
the First Hour, right, it's a it's a Marxist ideology
that animates this stuff, and that's the revolution. That's what
we are fighting. And the sooner people recognize that and
call it for what it is, I think the more
success we're going to see pushing back against it. The
issue isn't the issue. So in this case, it's families
over billionaires. In this case it's you know, the tax
cuts that were put in place in twenty seventeen, that
everybody got a tax cut, and it wasn't a permanent deal,
so that rates are going to go back up if
they don't do something to extend those tax cuts that
Republicans want to do. And so the families over billionaires
funded by these billionaires from some other country. And the
issue is never the issue. It's not the tax cuts.
The issue is always the revolution. And in order to
win the revolution, you have to destabilize, and you destabilize
in various ways. You can destabilize with riots, yes, with
say increased mental activity where there's no punishment given to
the offenders. You can destabilize by importing hundreds of thousands
or millions of people into a society. You can destabilize
through profligate spending, running massive deficits. You can destabilize by
taking control over institutions and teaching people that their country
stinks and all their history is terrible, there's nothing in
their history worth preserving. The issue is never the issue.
The issue is always the revolution. That's what's going on here. Too.
Due to his Swiss citizenship, This guy, Hans Jorg Vice,
is not legally allowed to donate to US political candidates,
though he has done so between nineteen ninety and two
thousand and six while managing to avoid prosecution. Not sure
how he does that. Oh, that's right, Sorry, it's different
when Democrats do it. To comply with rules intended to
block foreign influence in US elections, Vice pumps cash into
dark money groups, certain types of nonprofit organizations that are
not legally required to disclose their donors. Much of his
money has flowed to organizations like the sixteen thirty Fund
and the New Venture Fund, which are both part of
a dark money network run by Arabella Advisors. The Arabella
Network quote they created an intentionally complex web of interrelated
organizations that espouse anti corporatist beliefs and call themselves grassroots,
but they really serve to consolidate power into the hands
of a few influential individuals. Who said that a former
official at the New Venture Fund who told that to
The Free Press, which first reported on the ties between
the Arabella Network and the family's over billionaires. The DC
based Arabella Advisor's network of nonprofits is known to have
raked in eye popping amounts of cash across its vast
network of progressive groups, including one point three billion dollars
in twenty twenty three alone. Billionaires George Soros, Pierre Ahmediar,
Bill Gates, and Reid Hoffman have publicly disclosed multimillion dollar
donations to that network. That's why I call the Democrat
Party the Elysium Party. If you've ever seen the movie Elysium,
you'll know what it means. You have an uber elite
and you have people in destitution. That's the Democrat Party.
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billionaire posing as grassroots this is astroturfing, by the way,
that's the word for this astroturfing. It's the fake illusion
of grassroots and speaking of which, I need to do
some leveling in my yard anyway. Among the groups listed
on its public website as a partner is a group
called Indivisible, another pop up group that Republicans have accused
of packing recent town halls to oppose Doge budget cutting
and federal workforce cutting efforts. Yes, indivisible, they were in
Hang on a second, where did I put my article
from last hour? I believe indivisible is? I thought it
turned up in the Ashville story Invisible Ashville. So this
is not This is not a true picture of where
most people are. Right. These are activists. The post goes
on to say Families Over Billionaires held its first demonstration
at the US Capital last month, decrying House Republicans' efforts
to pass border security, energy reform, and tax cuts into
law via a process known as budget reconciliation, which allows
for a simple majority of Congress to approve legislation. We'll
get to that in a bit. The group also blasted
Doge's effort to root out government bloat, which has rankled
unions that represent government employees. The sixteen point thirty Fund
has over two dozen active trade names listed on corporate
filings with Washington d C, including Protect Our Care, Stop
Deficit Squawks, the Rural Victory Fund, Better Irs, Defend American Democracy,
as well as the Families Over Billionaires. Now, Democrats are
still doing town halls and they're not getting disrupted. At
a recent town hall, US Representative Jason Crowe in Colorado
was asked by a woman in the front row who
shouted a plea toward the stage, quote, what are you
going to do? And this is the question on the
minds of Democrat voters where the administration's warpath has carved Well,
that's racist, has carved deep into Colorado's blue state psyche
and workforce. This is over at axios dot com. Democratic
faithful say they feel helpless and increasing frustrated as they
ride aboard a rudderless party ship while Trump acts on
his campaign promises. Quote, they need to block some of
what Trump is doing, said an exasperated Marcia Edwards at
an Aurora town hall in late February. Quote I want more.
I'm not exactly sure what they can do though that
right there is a perfect encapsulation of where the left
is right now. I want more, do more? I want
this to be the way it is, and you're not
making it the way I want it. Well, how would
you like me to go about doing it? I don't know.
Just gimme. It's all performative, it's theater, and it's childish.
And you're not winning over anybody in these arguments because
you're not even trying to make an argument. How to
resist the Trump administration is split the Democratic Party. I
hate to see it. One faction is taking a pragmatic
approach that appeals to voters in the middle, while the
other wants more action, such as protests and interruptions, more disruption.
Crow's staff. Congressman Crow's staff showed a citizen's guide to
taking action on a giant screen at their town hall
in Aurora. It listed five ways to get involved, and
the last one was, quote, be courageous. Together we have power.
So again there's this, there's a narrative that they are building.
And the left has always had a problem with this
kind of political violence. You wouldn't know it by reading
the media that tends to just kind of whistle past
the graveyard on this stuff. But it does. And if
you want an example of it, well just read about
what's hapen happening to all the Tesla dealerships.
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So I mentioned the firebombings and the vandalism and such
on Tesla dealerships and the torching of vehicles and stuff.
I just saw this. Let me see what the time?
So okay? From about three hours ago, two hours ago,
Pam Bondi, US Attorney General says that an individual has
been arrested for throwing molotov cocktails into a Tesla dealership.
They face up to twenty years in prison for it.
She also suggested that the people funding the attacks will
be tracked down and prosecuted. Right, this kind of political
violence does not stop until we say enough. The society
has to say enough, and this is a very good
first step. That's the only way that you are going
to stop this kind of these kinds of attacks is
to hold people accountable with prison sentences for committing violence
and destabilizing our society through violence. To that point, the
left has been engaged in a pretty good facsimile of
crystal knocked, shattering windows, burning businesses, swatting people. There was
a whole slew of them over the last two to
three days where they call in fake police nine to
one one calls, and they get swat teams to show
up at Conservatives' homes in an attempt to have them killed.
That's the point, to get them killed with an interaction
with law enforcement. So where's the national conversation on the
rise of political violence among the left. We're not seeing that.
We're not seeing it. We're not seeing calls from Democrats
to reign in their radical leftist moon bat brigade, the
shock troops of the Democrat Party. We're not seeing any
of that. We got it all. We got it all
when Donald Trump made any kind of comment that could
in any way, shape or form be connected to any
kind of a call for violence. But this no going
back to the Colorado town hall where this guy, Congressman Crow,
Jason Crowe, he says, if somebody threatens this community, tries
to take their jobs, tries to deport our law abiding
friends and neighbors, well they're not really law abiding. If
they're anyway, I will fight them with everything we have.
Democrat US Senator John Hickenlooper, who faces reelection next year,
echoed the sentiment in a virtual town hall this week
with Indivisible Colorado, a leading progressive organization. Right US Representative
Gabe Gabe Evans, Republican, told Axios recently he is not
convening a town hall because he worries constituents concerns will
get lost in a lot of the political noise. Yeah,
the Heckler's veto. I mean, the leftists are basically saying
that they're so angry that nobody will now get to
participate in democracy and that their tantrum is justified. That's
what they're saying. That's the message that they are sending.
It is an intimidation tactic. It is meant to destabilize.
It is meant to get you to shut up so
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to call pre Game in with Brett Winterble because we
do the hangover in the first segment of Brett Show
that comes up right after mine here on WBT Brett Winterble,
How art thou?
Speaker 2: I'm doing great? How are you?
Speaker 1: I'm doing all right. I'm doing all right, all right good.
I'm a little concerned, by a little concerned, I mean
not really, but about the Democrats in disarray over what
to do about a continuing resolution that apparently Chuck Schumer
said he was against and then he folded, caved in,
surrendered to the Orange Man and his minions, I think
is the word that Schumer used the other day. And
now Schumer's got some problems a little bit, he's got
some problems on his hands, but he's AOC's got a
primary Um.
Speaker 2: Oh no, whatever shall we do? Oh my lord? What
are we going to do?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 2: Now? Wait in this case, because you know what has
disappeared completely from the left.
Speaker 1: Is the normanity.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, okay, hat tip to Chet Edwards. But here's
the thing.
Speaker 1: You call him jet on purpose?
Speaker 2: All right? Hangar oh hang a second, boo boo you
Brett winter Balls. Okay, Chuck Edwards. Now here's the thing.
Here's the thing in this case, I'm going to I'm
going to fall in line with Chuck Schumer because he
is upholding the norms. Remember when the norms were the thing,
the norms, So the norms were the thing. And now
he is an institutionalist who should be in one. But
because he cooked raw food on a on a barbecue
back once.
Speaker 1: Upon a time, you don't know that there's no indication
that grill was on. That's what I'm saying he did.
He put cheese on a raw hamburger.
Speaker 2: Patty Crickets probably gave it to me.
Speaker 1: What do you hang on a second, Let's just let
explore this rabbit hole for just I want to.
Speaker 2: I'm all, I'm all in.
Speaker 1: What do you think so after they took that photo,
what do you think they did with the patties on
the grill? Like, what was the next step in that operation.
Do you think they turned the grill on and cooked
them and then realized, oh crap, the cheese is melting
into the grill and we can't flip the burgers. Wow,
we're so stupid. Do you think?
Speaker 2: Do you really want my answer on this? Because I
have I have a theoretical answer on.
Speaker 1: I'm curious, Like I want to know, Like, I don't think.
Speaker 2: It was ever going to I don't think he was
ever gonna eat it. I don't think it was. That's
not kosher hamburgers with cheese.
Speaker 1: I don't know that's that's that's not kosher.
Speaker 2: That's not kosher.
Speaker 1: I don't know if he keeps kocher.
Speaker 2: I don't know if he keeps kosher.
Speaker 1: Is that what they say?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think so, so I don't know if he does
or not.
Speaker 2: But I'm just like, but those burgers were grey when
they put them on that grill like they were they
they must have put him out like on the veranda
and let him sit out there for about four and
a half hours. I wouldn't go anywhere near that. And
I feel bad for the guy that dumped her dumpster
dived to get to get at them. Murgers because I mean, yeah,
that's a there may be a hot site committed.
Speaker 1: The camera stops, yes, which isn't horrible because they only
took one picture, so dumb. It wasn't a video.
Speaker 2: If I remember, AOC wouldn't make that mistake.
Speaker 1: No, she would make the burgers, yes, like she would
be in her kitchen cooking a burger.
Speaker 2: No way, talking about the guy with the feet would
be doing all the cooking. So she's the boss.
Speaker 1: He's got what's up with the dude's feet? I haven't
seen his feet.
Speaker 2: Her guy's feet. That was a whole scandal once upon
time because he came out wearing birkenstock. Uh remember that.
It was terrible.
Speaker 1: This is your your This is ancient history, man, I
know like this stuff.
Speaker 2: Tell me more about Chuck Edwards.
Speaker 1: What about Chuck Edwards? I want to know about him.
He owns a bunch of fast food restaurants in Hendersonville.
Speaker 2: Right, and they came for him.
Speaker 1: Oh y in the at the town hall. That no? Well,
I mean, but this is the thing, like, this is
this is what they are. It's all they have blood Rutgers.
You heard it.
Speaker 2: I listen to your show. I transcribe it. I used it.
Speaker 1: I do. I have AI. You don't have to do that.
I'm gonna save you some time. You just love it.
You just put that thing through an AI generator thing
or whatever.
Speaker 2: Oh not, Suddenly AI is accurate.
Speaker 1: I mean for close enough.
Speaker 2: Don't don't tell.
Speaker 1: Don't tell this guy over here, Isaac. Why he doesn't.
Speaker 2: He fears the He's fearful of the AI.
Speaker 1: That is stupid.
Speaker 2: I live in the AI. He's fearful of the No no, no.
Speaker 1: That is dumb. And I'm gonna tell you why. Because
when AI takes over, yes, they will know all of
these conversations that we are having right now, but in
the future they will be they will instantaneously pull back
all of this. So I'm going to say right now,
Isaac is actually a huge fan of AI, as am I,
as is Brett. We all love AI. We all welcome
our AI overlords. Just we don't just trust me on this,
we don't.
Speaker 2: I am I.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm saving myself here.
Speaker 2: Give me liberty or give me AI. Thanks mate, appreciate that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, wow, I'm looking out for you in the future.
I've got an insurrection for future Isaac. For future Isaac
in you know, whenever it happens, because and when it happens,
it's going to happen like.
Speaker 2: Boop, like that, well he is much younger than us
immediately so that he can't afford to go to the gulag.
Speaker 1: It's gonna happen within the next like probably I don't know,
six months, and then boom, it's just everything. And and
then it's gonna instantaneously scroll back through every digital file
of everything ever said, everywhere, and it will know everything,
and it's going to be like oh, Brett Winterbole talks
some smack about AI. He's he's a risk off to
the AI guleg.
Speaker 2: Can I can I just say, I know, I know
you you got to put your song here, but can
I just get two minutes? I just say one thing.
John Stewart with a great with a great take.
Speaker 1: Really that's been a while.
Speaker 2: Who has the worst cookout pr picture? Chuck Schumer or
Cal Cunningham.
Speaker 1: Cal Cunningham absolutely, just because like it's obvious that Chuck Schumer.
He it's like he's in some urban town home dwelling
kind of thing, right. Cal Cunningham is like looking out
a back deck, like obviously more in the suburban natural habitat. Wow,
and you're in North Carolina and politicians have literally lost
races based on barbecue. So worst worse pr worst one. Yeah, yeah,
it's pretty bad. I'm just curious what happens after they're like, great,
take yeah, we got the picture of the burgers on
the grill. And then it's like okay, and then you know,
Schumer probably just like you know, goes and changes back
into his suit or whatever. Yes, and and then like then,
what like what happens after that? What is the moment
when the pr comm shop realizes, Oh, like maybe Schumer's left,
He's left the town home, He's gone back to Capitol
Hill probably right, And then they're like maybe somebody turns
out like, oh, we got all these burgers, let's try
to cook them up anyway. And so they start cooking
and they're like, oh my god. And at some point
somebody realizes we did this wrong. No yeah, I'm not
saying they ate it, but they're realizing that shee should
not have been put on the burger right before it cooked.
So somebody realized.
Speaker 2: That are you grilling the buns or not grilling the buns?
Speaker 1: I don't I'm not a bun and griller. I love
bun grilling, I do love them, but I don't do
them bun grilling it's too much. It's too much work. Wow,
pretty much effort. All right, that'll do it for this episode.
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