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<v Speaker 1>This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI

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<v Speaker 1>A M. Six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on

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<v Speaker 2>What else is going on? Time four? What's happening? Tropical storm?

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<v Speaker 3>Water damage, fire damage, Burglory called public adjuster, abner gas

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<v Speaker 3>eight one eight nine one seven five two five six.

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<v Speaker 2>One day, A bad word is gonna come out. You

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<v Speaker 2>know it. You know it's gonna happen. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Tropical storm Tropical Storm Raphael is gaining steam near Jamaica

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<v Speaker 1>and they say probably will grow into a hurricane before

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<v Speaker 1>hitting at Cuba.

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<v Speaker 4>Headed towards Jamaica the Cayman Islands. Today, a hurricane watch

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<v Speaker 4>issued for parts of Cuba, and the tropical storm warning

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<v Speaker 4>in effect for Jamaica and the Florida Keys right now.

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<v Speaker 4>There is an expectation that this thing, at least as

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<v Speaker 4>a tropical storm, is gonna make a landfall, probably into

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<v Speaker 4>northern Florida elsewhere we're in the southeastern United States by

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<v Speaker 4>the end of the week. As much as three inches

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<v Speaker 4>of rain forecast for the lower and middle portions of

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<v Speaker 4>the Florida Keys.

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<v Speaker 1>That Dodgers fan who lost his fingers after the firework

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<v Speaker 1>blew up and blew up his hand is talking. Did

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<v Speaker 1>you see they were trying to raise money for this guy?

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<v Speaker 1>A GoFundMe has been raised for him. He got drunk

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<v Speaker 1>and blew his hand off with a firework. Come on,

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<v Speaker 1>apparently he lost two fingers. He's twenty five years old.

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<v Speaker 1>His name's Kevin King.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh and did you see what his dad said about him?

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<v Speaker 4>His dad called him out for being a moron. Without

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<v Speaker 4>calling him out for being a moron, he said he's

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<v Speaker 4>basically missing his pointer finger, referencing the middle finger the

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<v Speaker 4>meat portion between the pointing finger and the thumb area.

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<v Speaker 4>And he said he did have some issues between both

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<v Speaker 4>his ears. Good Now, I don't know if he means

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<v Speaker 4>that both ears got punctured or his brain matter that

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<v Speaker 4>was supposed to be between his ears was not there

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<v Speaker 4>in the first place leaning over the stupid mortar while

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<v Speaker 4>he was trying to light it. The surgeon did see

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<v Speaker 4>the video. They said they don't understand how he's able

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<v Speaker 4>to walk away with the injuries that he has. He

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<v Speaker 4>protected ninety percent of his face from the explosion.

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<v Speaker 2>But you want to know how much they've raised?

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<v Speaker 1>No, take a guess for the drunk guy who blew

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<v Speaker 1>off his finger celebrating in the Dodgers World Series five

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<v Speaker 1>grand ten thousand dollars ten grand, just below ten thousand.

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<v Speaker 2>What could you do?

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<v Speaker 4>What sort of physical mishap could you get into between

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<v Speaker 4>this studio and the parking garage that would garner you

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<v Speaker 4>a GoFundMe page.

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<v Speaker 2>I will set it up for you. I will gladly settled.

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<v Speaker 2>I doesn't have to do something stupid, do something stupid

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<v Speaker 2>that results in some sort of injury. Would you lose

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<v Speaker 2>a couple fingers for ten grand?

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<v Speaker 4>No?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I would not.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh but I'm saying, maybe you try to slide down

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<v Speaker 4>the band stir at the parking garage stairs and you

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<v Speaker 4>fall and track your head.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I would not survive so that your.

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<v Speaker 4>Right eye is permanently crossed like this. Oh oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>see you.

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<v Speaker 2>Can just whip that out and oh my god, parties gift.

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<v Speaker 4>It's fun when you're talking to somebody and you just

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<v Speaker 4>can't stop ignore, you just want them to just and

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<v Speaker 4>you just slowly, Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>My god, you have great control over that eye.

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<v Speaker 4>Put that eyeball ouph my god, that's terrifying.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that is terrifying. Well, maybe you shut up next

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<v Speaker 2>time I do that way. I can do this with

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<v Speaker 4>What do you do you're putting your thumbs up? Oh,

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<v Speaker 4>you're bending it back like yeah, I don't know how

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<v Speaker 4>you do that. It bends like to a ninety degree.

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<v Speaker 2>How do you do that? Yeah, I've got a party

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<v Speaker 2>trick too, freak.

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<v Speaker 4>Speaking of weird accidents, police in Mississippi say a man

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<v Speaker 4>died when he was trying to repair a dump truck

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<v Speaker 4>and ask falt poured all over him. He was underneath

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<v Speaker 4>game open and hot asphalt fell on him.

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<v Speaker 2>Out Yeah, no kidding anybody else.

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<v Speaker 1>Amazon got the FAA approval for a new delivery rone.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what, We're done. We're done. We're done doing

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<v Speaker 4>delivery drone stories. Oh guess who's Walmart's going to deliver,

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<v Speaker 4>Domino's is going to deliver? No one has delivered anything

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<v Speaker 4>from any drone period.

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<v Speaker 2>Stop it. It's so stupid, isn't it? Like once a

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<v Speaker 2>week there's a drone.

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<v Speaker 4>Got a proble to fly a drone over major metropolitan areas?

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<v Speaker 2>Who your mom can't believe? That set you off? Well,

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<v Speaker 2>that's amazing. I've been holding a lot of it.

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<v Speaker 1>In lately, somebody gave this guy one thousand dollars who anonymous?

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<v Speaker 2>It must have been his dad. His dad feels bad

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<v Speaker 2>for his.

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<v Speaker 1>His dad wife because because of his genes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, sorry, bro, I should never mind. No, you will

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<v Speaker 2>not finish that s none and I won't.

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<v Speaker 4>This isn't full metal jacket. Alex Caperella is going to

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<v Speaker 4>join us once again from NewsNation. We talked to him yesterday.

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<v Speaker 4>We'll talk about what's going on on that big board,

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<v Speaker 4>the final polls, what it looks like as we get

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<v Speaker 4>ready for some of these results to start rolling in

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<v Speaker 4>in a couple of hours from election day.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you've been cheated. That's the last part of

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<v Speaker 2>the line.

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<v Speaker 4>Yesterday we talked with News Nations Alex Caperello regarding what's

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<v Speaker 4>going on with election day as we wind things down

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<v Speaker 4>and start the ballot counting here in just a few hours.

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<v Speaker 2>So Alex, I wanted to follow up. We talked yesterday about.

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<v Speaker 4>The number of mail in and early in person votes

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<v Speaker 4>that have been cast, and as of this morning, I

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<v Speaker 4>saw the number eighty three million votes have either been

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<v Speaker 4>mailed in or people cast their ballots early. Can we

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<v Speaker 4>glean anything from not just that number? Of eighty three

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<v Speaker 4>million early votes. But anything that we can glean from

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<v Speaker 4>the numbers of people who have voted yet, whether you

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<v Speaker 4>know party affiliations or something.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, it.

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<v Speaker 3>Depends on which campaign you talk to, right, So Democrats

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<v Speaker 3>will tell you that that is right within their typical

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<v Speaker 3>margins that Democrats come out early and vote, and it

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<v Speaker 3>always is in their favor. If you ask Republican campaigns

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<v Speaker 3>about it, they're going to say this is going to

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<v Speaker 3>be a landslide for Donald Trump. Given the fact that

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<v Speaker 3>so many Republican voters decided to use this method of voting.

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<v Speaker 3>It's one of those wait and see type periods. I

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<v Speaker 3>think the one thing that you know we can glean

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<v Speaker 3>from it is that it's going to take potentially a

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<v Speaker 3>lot longer this whole election and calling of states process,

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<v Speaker 3>because it just takes longer to count those early those

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<v Speaker 3>mail in those absentee ballots. Some states have different laws

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<v Speaker 3>about when they can actually open up the envelopes day

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<v Speaker 3>or put them through the machines to actually begin to count.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think that potentially could be one piece of

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<v Speaker 3>advice I give to the people that are on the

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<v Speaker 3>edge of their couch watching these results pour in is

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<v Speaker 3>that some of these states may just take a lot

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<v Speaker 3>longer to actually declare what their total vote counts are

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<v Speaker 3>because they are processing so many more early votes than

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<v Speaker 1>Pennsylvania's twenty electoral votes put Joe Biden above the two

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<v Speaker 1>seventy needed took three and a half days in twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the situation or what's your prediction on Pennsylvania and

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<v Speaker 1>when we'll know which way that goes?

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<v Speaker 2>For tonight?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I think that we should get a rather large

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<v Speaker 3>chunk of Pennsylvania taken care of by midnight tonight. That

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<v Speaker 3>being said, Pennsylvania election officials say, don't expect us to

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<v Speaker 3>get the whole thing or get a very clear picture

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<v Speaker 3>of who the winner will be until tomorrow night. I

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<v Speaker 3>think what I'm watching for tonight for the people that

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<v Speaker 3>will be tuning in the news nation to see how

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<v Speaker 3>our election coverage unfold are the crucial battleground states of

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<v Speaker 3>North Carolina and Georgia. They are really on top of

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<v Speaker 3>their game when it comes to counting the votes. We

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<v Speaker 3>should have calls for those states by midnight tonight, and

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<v Speaker 3>based on who that winner is, it really says a

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<v Speaker 3>lot about the direction of the rest of these states

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<v Speaker 3>in the direction of the election. Right we talk about

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<v Speaker 3>the East Coast. If Donald Trump can sweep Pennsylvania, Georgia,

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<v Speaker 3>and North Carolina, he's got right on the money two

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<v Speaker 3>hundred and seventy electoral votes. So if we see North

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<v Speaker 3>Carolina and Georgia tonight, since we should have those results

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<v Speaker 3>tonight go to Donald Trump, then we have a pretty

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<v Speaker 3>good idea of how the rest of that unbelt might

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<v Speaker 3>play out and whether or not Pennsylvania could be the

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<v Speaker 3>very next one to tumble meaning Wednesday night. Now. Conversely,

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<v Speaker 3>if Kamala Harris is able to steal, so to speak,

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<v Speaker 3>one of those two states or basically keep it away

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<v Speaker 3>from Donald Trump, then that's a good indication that this

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<v Speaker 3>could be a lot longer of a process of vote

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<v Speaker 3>counting before an official race can be called.

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<v Speaker 4>Listen, we live in a society where we watch condensed

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<v Speaker 4>NFL games.

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<v Speaker 2>We want all of our.

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<v Speaker 4>Episodes of our favorite series to drop at once.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't like waiting around.

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<v Speaker 4>Is there going to be a push again for states

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<v Speaker 4>to change their election laws to.

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<v Speaker 2>End up with faster vote counts in the future.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's an ever moving target. And you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I think that each and every election that we go through,

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<v Speaker 3>we learned some things along the way. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 3>not uncommon for states to look back in retrospect, see

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<v Speaker 3>what they could have done better, and then amend their

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<v Speaker 3>laws in order to do so. We're seeing that already

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<v Speaker 3>in place, you know, say in Georgia, who's significantly improved

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<v Speaker 3>their election process. The one question I have is why

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<v Speaker 3>we still have figured out a national standardized way for

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<v Speaker 3>all of these states to go ahead and count their votes.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a question for a much smarter mind than me,

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<v Speaker 3>But to me, that's really the hurdle and probably speaks

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<v Speaker 3>to what you're talking about, a sense of dissatisfaction with

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<v Speaker 3>this whole process that we have to wait on several

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<v Speaker 3>different swing states that have completely different sets of voting standards.

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<v Speaker 3>But that is the reality that we're dealing with today.

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<v Speaker 3>So we just know that some states will come sooner

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<v Speaker 3>than others. We have to be patient with others.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Alex, good luck today.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks so much. We're going to need it in of course,

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<v Speaker 3>much as you can find our unbiased coverage on News Nation.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much. Thank you Alex. Again, a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of caffeine from NewsNation now.

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<v Speaker 1>Capital police have arrested a man attempting to enter the

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<v Speaker 1>Capital Visitor Center with a torch, a flare gun, and

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<v Speaker 1>smelling of fuel. He was stopped just after one thirty

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<v Speaker 1>pm at the screening checkpoint there. That is a place

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<v Speaker 1>that welcomes about three million visitors per year. It is

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<v Speaker 1>closed for the day as the investigation into the incident continues.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to know more about the torch. What kind

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<v Speaker 2>of a torch?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, and the way I saw it described is things

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<v Speaker 4>that he could use to start a fire. That's what

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<v Speaker 4>That's the more descriptive version of torch. So there have

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<v Speaker 4>been a handful of again to use this term, small

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very jealous. I love working election night. There's a buzz,

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<v Speaker 1>there's an energy. It's America, it's news, it's democracy.

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<v Speaker 2>I love.

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<v Speaker 1>I love going going back to my first year in radio,

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<v Speaker 1>working election night into the wee hours of the morning.

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<v Speaker 4>One of the first things I did here on election

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<v Speaker 4>night at KFI was the election of Governor Schwarzenek. I

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<v Speaker 4>I believe, and that was a very long night.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, but it was fun.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, there's not a lot to do with those

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<v Speaker 4>those parties, but it's America. I mean you think about

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<v Speaker 4>you're asking everybody to get on your team, and then

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<v Speaker 4>when everybody gets on your team, you throw a giant party.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's America.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, there's a reason why we call it the

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<v Speaker 4>Democratic Party and the Republican Party, so that you can

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<v Speaker 4>signify when you do get eighty million votes or eighty

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<v Speaker 4>five million or nay, ninety million votes is possible today

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<v Speaker 4>for one of these candidates, then you throw a giant.

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<v Speaker 2>What I'm just gonna party.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna throw in the eagle, the bald eagle,

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<v Speaker 1>the fierce beauty of the eagle and its feathers, the independence,

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<v Speaker 1>the strength, the freedom of the eagle, the eagle's place

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<v Speaker 1>on the Great Seal of the United States.

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<v Speaker 2>And what is that eagle doing. It's holding an olive branch. Gary,

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<v Speaker 2>It's holding an olive.

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<v Speaker 1>Branch to signify that we can hold an olive branch

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<v Speaker 1>out to our brothers and sisters. Here in America and

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<v Speaker 1>in the other there is an arrow, so we can

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<v Speaker 1>not only come together, but we can kill each other.

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<v Speaker 2>Thirteen arrows?

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<v Speaker 3>Is it?

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<v Speaker 2>Thirteen arrows? Thirteen arrows and his arms, his wings? I

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<v Speaker 2>suppose you. Most people call them wide open welcoming. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>there's definitely more than one arrow. There's enough arrows to

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<v Speaker 1>The founding fathers made that choice because of the thirteen

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<v Speaker 1>original colonies, because of the power.

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<v Speaker 2>And the beauty of America.

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<v Speaker 4>If you are stressed and are having a late night tonight,

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<v Speaker 4>you can add these five melatonin rich foods to your diet.

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<v Speaker 2>Nuts.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, this is nature's melatonin fish. Yeah, this is a

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<v Speaker 1>Mediterranean type situation.

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<v Speaker 2>Eggs, Yep, tart cherries. So the team.

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<v Speaker 1>Has this tart cherry melatonin and magnesium drink.

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<v Speaker 2>It tastes awful. Yeah, I hate it.

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<v Speaker 1>But I can't take melatonin because like everything else that

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<v Speaker 4>Way, makes a five hour cross country flight go by,

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<v Speaker 4>and a half a blink, doesn't it.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I've only tried it once and I

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't even finish all of it because don't drink it

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<v Speaker 2>They're like in sil pouch. Also, cow's milk.

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<v Speaker 4>Help you go to sleep, determine how many hours of

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<v Speaker 4>sleep you need and if it doesn't it doesn't have

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<v Speaker 4>to be the magic eight, but some some You got

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<v Speaker 4>to figure out exactly how to do this. Avoid social

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<v Speaker 4>jet lag. Go to bed and wake up at about

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<v Speaker 4>the same time you did the day before. It's the

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<v Speaker 4>most important thing you can do to improve your sleep.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting.

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<v Speaker 4>Pick designated times for news consumption and have a hard

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<v Speaker 4>cut off.

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<v Speaker 2>Figure out what you're going to do and do that?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that me? Are you I just butt dially from

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<v Speaker 2>four feet away? No, it was I called our Instagram page.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know that makes sense. Scared me. I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, who's calling the Instagram? I'm sorry. I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't even know you could call an Instagram page. What

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<v Speaker 2>would you have said if our Instagram page?

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<v Speaker 1>I hit the wrong button? I hit the wrong button? Boy,

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<v Speaker 1>stick your daily health retieve. Oh and then this was

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<v Speaker 1>this was the good what do you call it? Exercise

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<v Speaker 1>news that I had for you?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, all right, this is and this is going to

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<v Speaker 4>make you feel better. I can't wait if you're too

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<v Speaker 4>busy to exercise during the week, right, If you have

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<v Speaker 4>a regular schedule, maybe you're a Monday, Wednesday, Friday.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe you're Monday through Friday. How you do it? Scientists

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<v Speaker 2>have some good news for you.

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<v Speaker 4>Weekend workouts maybe just as effective at protecting your brain

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<v Speaker 4>health as regular Monday to Friday exercise.

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<v Speaker 2>That's excellent news.

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<v Speaker 4>So the study tracked over ten thousand adults for sixteen years,

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<v Speaker 4>and they found that those weekend warriors, those people who

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<v Speaker 4>those who didn't exercise at all.

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<v Speaker 1>For me, if I the more I work out, the

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<v Speaker 1>less I work out, so to speak.

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<v Speaker 2>And here's what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>If I know I'm working out four days a week,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to put as much into it four

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<v Speaker 1>four days a week. But if I know I can

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<v Speaker 1>only work out two days a week, I'm gonna go

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go for it, and I'm gonna give it all.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna give it up my all. Uh there's anything

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<v Speaker 2>to that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, But.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you're supposed to do.

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<v Speaker 4>What is it thirty minutes of somewhat strenuous exercises. Not

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<v Speaker 4>supposed to You don't have to go crazy now all

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<v Speaker 4>the time.

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<v Speaker 1>You get the blood pumping once a day, walk around, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>break out into a sweat once a day.

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<v Speaker 4>One of the stories we didn't get to with Neil

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<v Speaker 4>was a discussion about the fart walk.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you ever heard about that? No, yes, you have, No,

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<v Speaker 2>I have not.

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<v Speaker 4>You go and have a big meal and then you

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<v Speaker 4>go for a walk. Now, I had never heard about

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<v Speaker 4>I'd never heard it referred to that way. But it's

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<v Speaker 4>good to help your digestion, it's good to help your

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<v Speaker 4>blood sugar levels, especially after a big calorie rich meal.

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<v Speaker 4>You get up and go for a walk, take the

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<v Speaker 4>or somebody like that.

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<v Speaker 2>But do that. I think that's the way to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's wonderful. I think this is a greatcellent advice,

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<v Speaker 1>a great great thing. Look at you making America help.

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<v Speaker 4>And if the election anxiety is keeping you awake, you

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<v Speaker 4>need to turn everything off.

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<v Speaker 2>It just turn off. It's time for True Crime Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 2>True the story is true. That's true. No, it sounds

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<v Speaker 2>made up.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Garry and Shannon present True Crime.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, this month marks the fiftieth anniversary of the capture

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<v Speaker 1>of a serial killer, Paul John Knowles, nicknamed the Casanova Killer.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a guy who was suspected of murdering at

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<v Speaker 1>least eighteen people during four month crime spree. That is

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<v Speaker 1>a high kill count for four months. Eighteen people, more

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<v Speaker 1>than four people, two people a month. Yeah, And one

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<v Speaker 1>of the great things about this story, I mean, not

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<v Speaker 1>that there's a lot of great things about a serial

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<v Speaker 1>that it was a Vietnam veteran who apprehended him and

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<v Speaker 1>delivered him to authorities in November of nineteen seventy four.

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<v Speaker 1>He was charming, he was good looking. Paul John Knowles

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<v Speaker 1>was and he was the target of an extensive man hunt.

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<v Speaker 1>He bragged his lawyer at one point that he killed

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<v Speaker 1>up to thirty five people, but that claim remains unverified.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess.

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<v Speaker 4>So he meets his girlfriend, Angela Covid. She had lived

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<v Speaker 4>in San Francisco. They corresponded after he saw her name

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<v Speaker 4>in the pen pal column of an astrology magazine.

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<v Speaker 2>That's just something the red flag, red flag, red flag, but.

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<v Speaker 4>Still she visited him in prison, eventually hired attorney representative.

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<v Speaker 4>At a parole hearing in seventy four, he was paroled

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<v Speaker 4>on condition that he moved to San Francisco, where she

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<v Speaker 4>had gotten a job gotten him a job with a

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<v Speaker 4>billboard company, but he never made it to work. He

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<v Speaker 4>left California just four days later. It goes back to Florida.

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<v Speaker 4>His first alleged homicide victim was a retired teacher in Jacksonville,

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<v Speaker 4>Alice Curtis.

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<v Speaker 1>Man living in Jacksonville isn't bad enough. You've got to

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<v Speaker 1>get murdered too. Imagine that you live in Jacksonville. You've

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<v Speaker 1>end up getting murdered.

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<v Speaker 4>Over the next four month, they said months. He was

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<v Speaker 4>believed to have left a trail of victims, most of

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<v Speaker 4>them women, but there were men and children mixed in there,

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<v Speaker 4>and it seems like he chose them all at random.

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<v Speaker 1>Chilling, some of them sexually assaulted, including post mortem. Jim

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<v Speaker 1>Josie was a former police officer in Millageville, Georgia, where

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<v Speaker 1>this guy appeared before a judge after being captured. He

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<v Speaker 1>told a local TV station that this guy had no

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<v Speaker 1>motive for his murdering spree. He had no compunction about

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<v Speaker 1>killing you. It makes no difference whether he strangled you,

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<v Speaker 1>whether he shot you, whether he stabbed you, or what.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a martial arts expert, tough and mean. One

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<v Speaker 1>of his victims, Barbara Abel, made it out alive after

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<v Speaker 1>being held captive by this guy in a motel in

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<v Speaker 1>Fort Pierce, Florida for eighteen hours. She told People magazine

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<v Speaker 1>this year, I didn't know who he was, but I

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<v Speaker 1>knew he could kill me. I decided I would do

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<v Speaker 1>whatever I needed to survive. Another woman who crossed paths

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<v Speaker 1>with this guy was a woman by the name of Sandy.

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<v Speaker 1>She was a British journalist who described him physically as

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<v Speaker 1>a cross between Robert Redford and Ryan O'Neill.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, that goes to the whole.

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<v Speaker 4>He was a handsome guy and was probably able to

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<v Speaker 4>get closer to people that way. A twenty so he

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<v Speaker 4>was eventually chased by law enforcement, crashed his vehicle through

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<v Speaker 4>a police roadblock, and he escaped on foot and.

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<v Speaker 2>He's in the forest.

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<v Speaker 4>Basically, twenty seven year old hospital mechanic lived near McDonough

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<v Speaker 4>Georgia and he spent the weekend in the mountains. He

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<v Speaker 4>was hunting with relatives, unaware of the fact that this

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<v Speaker 4>man hunt was going on. But on his way back home,

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<v Speaker 4>he runs into a roadblock about three miles away from

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<v Speaker 4>his house, and he says, they looked in the truck.

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<v Speaker 4>They waved me on through.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, I didn't know what was happening. Once I

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<v Speaker 1>got home, his wife wasn't there. He decided to get

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<v Speaker 1>back in the truck check on his live stock, so

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<v Speaker 1>he parked. He starts walking toward the animals and sees

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<v Speaker 1>a figure in the woods. This guy came out of

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<v Speaker 1>the edge of the woods, said he'd be been in

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<v Speaker 1>an automobile accident. He was disheveled and torn up from

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<v Speaker 1>the brier patches, and he had a shotgun on his hand.

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<v Speaker 1>This guy says, I put two and two together. I

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<v Speaker 1>knew was connected to that roadblock. So he goes to

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<v Speaker 1>his truck to retrieve his shotgun, walks back to the

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<v Speaker 1>serial killer. He says, he looks like he was going

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<v Speaker 1>to raise his shotgun, so I pointed mine at him,

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<v Speaker 1>and I told him to drop the shotgun or I

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<v Speaker 1>was going to.

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<v Speaker 2>Blow his f and head off, and he complied.

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<v Speaker 4>He dropped the gun and David Clark directed him to

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<v Speaker 4>walk towards his house. The guy had asked to go

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<v Speaker 4>in for some water, but David Clark refused. He asked

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<v Speaker 4>me what my name was, and I told him I

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<v Speaker 4>didn't ask him who he was. We didn't have any conversation.

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<v Speaker 4>I was just directing him what to do. So they

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<v Speaker 4>eventually he walks the serial killer across the street asks

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<v Speaker 4>the neighbors to call police.

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<v Speaker 2>They talk.

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<v Speaker 4>One neighbor, a preacher, said that he'd seen these two

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<v Speaker 4>men walking across the street and hustle his wife and

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<v Speaker 4>kids and a couple of neighboring kids to hide in

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<v Speaker 4>a rear bedroom and closet. He heard another neighbor yelling

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<v Speaker 4>at him to leave because he was just scaring people,

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<v Speaker 4>and he told her to call police. And while they waited,

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<v Speaker 4>David Clark said that Knowles asked him to tell police

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<v Speaker 4>not to hurt him. Said he was afraid that they

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<v Speaker 4>were going to shoot him right there in the front yard.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it all came to an end for him. In

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<v Speaker 1>December nineteen seventy four, he was being transported. He was

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<v Speaker 1>in the backseat alone handcuffs, leg irons. That wasn't a

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<v Speaker 1>squad car, it was a personal car of the sheriff.

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<v Speaker 1>And this guy, the serial killer, was able to free

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<v Speaker 1>one of his hands by picking the lock off his handcuffs.

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<v Speaker 1>He reached over to grab the sheriff's gun, and the

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<v Speaker 1>special agent in the passenger seat turned around shot him

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<v Speaker 1>three times in the chest.

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<v Speaker 2>Dead, just like that, Just like that. That's quite a

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<v Speaker 2>story heard of the Pasenova killer.

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<v Speaker 1>I hadn't either, but a cross between Robert Redford and

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan O'Neill.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, good looking guys. Okay, still, I mean I guess,

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<v Speaker 2>well one of them's dead. Are they both dead? They're

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<v Speaker 2>not both dead? I don't think so. Wait, who's dead,

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<v Speaker 2>Ryan O'Neil, Yeah, he's dead. Is that what you were

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<v Speaker 2>going to say?

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<v Speaker 4>I would have said that of the two of them,

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<v Speaker 4>I would think that he is the one who has passed.

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<v Speaker 2>Robert Redford's not dead. I don't think so. Not in

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<v Speaker 2>my heart, he's not. I don't know if that means

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<v Speaker 2>that he's still walking in the physical world. He's alive.

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<v Speaker 2>He's alive. Thank you, guys, shaved one today you've been

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<v Speaker 2>listening to the Gary and Shannon show.

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