WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.960 --> 00:00:09.400 Big Food and on with Cliff and Bobo. These guys 2 00:00:09.400 --> 00:00:13.160 are your favorites, so like say subscribe and rade it. 3 00:00:13.400 --> 00:00:19.039 I'm start on. 4 00:00:19.320 --> 00:00:24.879 Us today listening, oh watching Lim always keep it's watching. 5 00:00:26.640 --> 00:00:30.399 And now you're hosts Cliff Barrickman and James Bubo Fay. 6 00:00:31.160 --> 00:00:32.759 Good afternoon, Bobo. How you doing today? 7 00:00:33.119 --> 00:00:34.359 Excellent? How are you? Cliff? 8 00:00:34.840 --> 00:00:37.600 Not bad at all? Not bad at all. I'm at 9 00:00:37.640 --> 00:00:40.240 the museum today. Of course I work every Tuesday, Wednesday, 10 00:00:40.240 --> 00:00:42.640 Thursday and Mini the other days as well, but here 11 00:00:42.719 --> 00:00:44.719 today just kind of touching up the museum, doing some 12 00:00:44.840 --> 00:00:48.359 touch up painting jobs. We're filling some new display cases 13 00:00:48.439 --> 00:00:51.600 with some cool stuff. We have some new original casts 14 00:00:51.679 --> 00:00:54.679 on display, you know, from Ape Canyon. Oddly enough, what 15 00:00:54.880 --> 00:00:59.039 yours it was like this year twenty twenty three, I believe, Okay, 16 00:00:59.320 --> 00:01:01.399 now I'm might be last year, but I'm pretty sure 17 00:01:01.439 --> 00:01:03.039 it was this year. I think it was in July, 18 00:01:03.159 --> 00:01:05.959 if I remember right. Some local researchers found some stuff 19 00:01:05.959 --> 00:01:08.799 about a mile and a half above the Ape Canyon trailhead, 20 00:01:09.680 --> 00:01:11.959 so the general area, which is great. We put that 21 00:01:12.040 --> 00:01:15.079 on display early, even though we're planning on making a 22 00:01:15.239 --> 00:01:18.879 rather grandiose Ape Canyon display for the entirety of twenty 23 00:01:18.959 --> 00:01:21.799 twenty four, because that is the one hundredth year anniversary 24 00:01:21.879 --> 00:01:25.439 of the events. Yeah, beyond that, you know, I guess 25 00:01:25.480 --> 00:01:27.959 the big news of this week is that yesterday Keith, 26 00:01:27.959 --> 00:01:32.040 who's a contractor here at the NBC and general handyman 27 00:01:32.120 --> 00:01:34.560 and all around good guy, he came into my house 28 00:01:35.560 --> 00:01:38.239 where I lived because we're I'm going to start rewiring 29 00:01:38.439 --> 00:01:42.439 the outbuilding where your trailer lives, you know, yeah, And 30 00:01:42.799 --> 00:01:44.879 so we're going to start rewiring it because a lot 31 00:01:44.920 --> 00:01:47.400 of the plugs are dead and it just it's just time. 32 00:01:47.439 --> 00:01:49.040 I need to redo the lights and all that stuff. 33 00:01:49.079 --> 00:01:51.680 So Keith came over, and I don't know anything about electricity, right. 34 00:01:51.840 --> 00:01:54.400 That kind of scares me. You know, you may find 35 00:01:54.480 --> 00:01:58.239 you may find that shocking, thank you very much. But 36 00:01:59.040 --> 00:02:00.879 so he was over, and he came over around noon 37 00:02:00.959 --> 00:02:02.640 or something. As he was pointing at this, and he says, 38 00:02:02.680 --> 00:02:04.840 you need this, and I'll give you a list of 39 00:02:04.879 --> 00:02:06.400 things to buy, and I'll come over and I'll show 40 00:02:06.400 --> 00:02:08.120 you how to do this and that and stuff. And 41 00:02:08.199 --> 00:02:12.719 we're done around twelve thirty. And I'm assuming it's raining 42 00:02:12.759 --> 00:02:14.319 pretty hard down there, because I know it's been raining 43 00:02:14.360 --> 00:02:16.800 like crazy up here. So I kind of said, well, 44 00:02:17.199 --> 00:02:19.439 you want to go to the woods. It's not raining 45 00:02:19.479 --> 00:02:21.120 real hard right now, and he goes, yeah, sure, I 46 00:02:21.159 --> 00:02:23.680 got nothing. So he went to the woods yesterday and 47 00:02:23.840 --> 00:02:26.639 walked because you know, it's been like I think right 48 00:02:26.719 --> 00:02:29.280 now as I'm saying this, it's like fifty eight degrees. 49 00:02:29.639 --> 00:02:30.879 That's exactly what it is here. 50 00:02:31.280 --> 00:02:34.240 Yeah, it's so warm, and yesterday was no exception. It's 51 00:02:34.280 --> 00:02:37.919 that Pineapple Express that you know, that warm southern rain 52 00:02:38.080 --> 00:02:39.919 coming up. So it's been in the mid to upper 53 00:02:40.039 --> 00:02:44.159 fifties all week. I think yesterday was in Portland at 54 00:02:44.199 --> 00:02:46.680 least a topped oat at sixty or sixty two or 55 00:02:46.719 --> 00:02:49.599 some ridiculous number like that. It was insane. Right, So 56 00:02:49.639 --> 00:02:52.520 there's no snow and it's December, so I wanted to 57 00:02:52.560 --> 00:02:54.479 take advantage of getting up to one of my higher 58 00:02:54.520 --> 00:02:57.560 elevation spots. So Keith and I went out there and 59 00:02:57.919 --> 00:03:00.719 walked this one particular area that we've been lucky before, 60 00:03:00.960 --> 00:03:06.000 and sure enough we found prints again. Yesterday I came 61 00:03:06.039 --> 00:03:10.240 back with came back with five casts in my car yesterday. 62 00:03:10.000 --> 00:03:12.919 The same one, its the same smaller foot Yeah. 63 00:03:12.960 --> 00:03:15.800 Well, yeah, this particular area has yielded two different sizes 64 00:03:15.840 --> 00:03:18.319 of animals before, a twelve inch and a fourteen or 65 00:03:18.360 --> 00:03:20.719 fifteen inch, and we have prints from both of them 66 00:03:21.039 --> 00:03:21.800 from yesterday. 67 00:03:22.159 --> 00:03:23.840 Oh, how were they in conjunction? 68 00:03:24.039 --> 00:03:27.199 Like, well, we found the twelve inch one where we 69 00:03:27.240 --> 00:03:29.879 found the twelve inch one before, and it was crossing 70 00:03:29.919 --> 00:03:33.840 the road and then running up the embankment that same place. 71 00:03:33.919 --> 00:03:35.919 We looked like at the corner of the road bends 72 00:03:36.000 --> 00:03:37.599 right there, not where. 73 00:03:37.400 --> 00:03:40.000 The bend is, no, no, no, before that, long before that, 74 00:03:40.080 --> 00:03:43.280 actually over by a spring, and then it went up 75 00:03:43.280 --> 00:03:45.360 into the hill. So we got one print on the 76 00:03:45.439 --> 00:03:47.520 road that shows a couple toes. It's not, you know, 77 00:03:47.840 --> 00:03:50.560 not going to impress anybody or anything, but I love it. 78 00:03:51.400 --> 00:03:53.080 We found one print on the road which we cast, 79 00:03:53.120 --> 00:03:55.919 and then we missed one. But then we found three 80 00:03:56.080 --> 00:03:59.639 others going up the embankment. And this embankment is it 81 00:03:59.680 --> 00:04:01.400 doesn't stop. It's the side of a hill. You know, 82 00:04:01.479 --> 00:04:03.680 it goes up like one hundred feet or something like that. 83 00:04:03.879 --> 00:04:06.960 You know, I found three or four before I lost 84 00:04:07.000 --> 00:04:09.599 it in the forest stuff. We tried to cast one 85 00:04:09.639 --> 00:04:11.840 of those. I don't have real high hopes for it 86 00:04:11.919 --> 00:04:14.680 because it was mostly in plant matter, but since I 87 00:04:14.719 --> 00:04:16.480 could see the toes in person, I wanted to give 88 00:04:16.480 --> 00:04:19.639 it a try. And then we continued walking this area, 89 00:04:20.160 --> 00:04:22.120 and about one hundred and fifty or two hundred yards 90 00:04:22.199 --> 00:04:25.519 down the road, Keith like, I see something in the ground. 91 00:04:25.560 --> 00:04:27.439 I go, that looks like a heel impression, What is this? 92 00:04:27.519 --> 00:04:29.560 And I'm like getting down and close and personal with it? 93 00:04:29.839 --> 00:04:32.480 And I look back and Keith is, you know, like 94 00:04:32.879 --> 00:04:34.839 five feet away from me looking at another thing in 95 00:04:34.839 --> 00:04:36.319 the ground, says, what do you think this is? And 96 00:04:36.399 --> 00:04:39.199 I started looking. I look at his I go, well, 97 00:04:39.199 --> 00:04:41.360 I don't know. That kind of looks like a heel 98 00:04:41.399 --> 00:04:42.120 of it. What direction? 99 00:04:42.519 --> 00:04:42.560 Like? 100 00:04:42.920 --> 00:04:45.600 Is that a foot? Then by see is that a 101 00:04:45.639 --> 00:04:46.959 toe on that side? He goes, I thought it was 102 00:04:47.000 --> 00:04:49.240 going the other way, and we couldn't really decipher it, 103 00:04:49.360 --> 00:04:52.399 you know, because that's something I learned from Tom Shade 104 00:04:52.399 --> 00:04:54.879 when I had an opportunity to go tracking with him. 105 00:04:54.959 --> 00:04:57.560 He says, anything in the ground that looks funky, anything 106 00:04:57.600 --> 00:05:01.120 in the ground that looks unusual, down on your hands 107 00:05:01.120 --> 00:05:03.279 and knees and really look at that, you know, give 108 00:05:03.360 --> 00:05:06.240 it five or ten minutes if that's what it takes. 109 00:05:06.720 --> 00:05:08.360 Give it a long time and see if you can 110 00:05:08.399 --> 00:05:10.800 figure out what's going on. So Keith and I are 111 00:05:10.879 --> 00:05:13.120 like looking at his thing, and I think, I don't 112 00:05:13.160 --> 00:05:15.160 know what direction is going on? Is that a toe 113 00:05:15.240 --> 00:05:16.879 or is that a toe on the other side? And 114 00:05:16.959 --> 00:05:19.040 I go, well, Keith, look at what I found over here. 115 00:05:19.600 --> 00:05:22.319 And then I take them five feet away and I look, 116 00:05:22.680 --> 00:05:24.959 and he goes, oh my god, because he hadn't made 117 00:05:24.959 --> 00:05:25.480 it down that far. 118 00:05:25.519 --> 00:05:25.560 You. 119 00:05:25.600 --> 00:05:27.439 He goes, well, that's the heel, right, And I said, yeah, 120 00:05:27.439 --> 00:05:29.720 that's a heel. And we start looking and sure enough 121 00:05:29.759 --> 00:05:32.839 there's toes, which solved the mystery about which direction the 122 00:05:32.920 --> 00:05:35.560 other footprint was traveling on my dad. So we found 123 00:05:35.639 --> 00:05:38.399 three tracks there, two of which that we felt were castable. 124 00:05:38.600 --> 00:05:40.360 The other one was it was a mark in the 125 00:05:40.439 --> 00:05:44.000 ground and just there's really nothing to pour plaster in. 126 00:05:44.920 --> 00:05:47.120 And then of course we start looking around the area 127 00:05:47.240 --> 00:05:49.720 backtrack and go twenty thirty fifty feet in each direction, 128 00:05:50.360 --> 00:05:55.040 and behind where these two or actually three tracks were, 129 00:05:55.879 --> 00:05:58.199 we found some other marks in the ground, and Keith's going, 130 00:05:58.439 --> 00:06:01.319 what what kind of animal makes that? That's a weird one. 131 00:06:01.360 --> 00:06:04.279 It's like these weird scrape marks that were kind of 132 00:06:04.399 --> 00:06:08.160 like all going towards a central point and I'm looking 133 00:06:08.199 --> 00:06:11.040 at I go, dude, that might be a hand, and 134 00:06:11.319 --> 00:06:13.279 he looks, oh my god. There and then we start 135 00:06:13.360 --> 00:06:16.319 counting these scrap and you imagine like a big old hand, 136 00:06:16.680 --> 00:06:19.199 you know, sticking out. And of course it wasn't just 137 00:06:19.240 --> 00:06:21.360 one impression. I think it was a number of marks 138 00:06:21.439 --> 00:06:23.560 from the same hand as it moved around. I don't 139 00:06:23.600 --> 00:06:26.560 know what it was doing, but we counted five fingers, 140 00:06:26.600 --> 00:06:29.600 all kind of coming to a central point, and we well, 141 00:06:29.639 --> 00:06:31.879 we cast all these things and it was a sloppy 142 00:06:31.920 --> 00:06:34.079 looking print in the ground. I don't have real high 143 00:06:34.120 --> 00:06:36.759 hopes of the cast looking much like a hand, but 144 00:06:36.959 --> 00:06:40.360 perhaps it'll yield some sort of information. So that was 145 00:06:40.480 --> 00:06:43.160 just yesterday. So I kind of did a preliminary you know, 146 00:06:43.519 --> 00:06:45.600 squirt down to the cast, not rubbing it or anything 147 00:06:45.639 --> 00:06:48.399 like that because it's not set yet. So anyway, yeah, 148 00:06:48.480 --> 00:06:51.399 that was yesterday. So pretty pretty epic day, man, pretty 149 00:06:51.399 --> 00:06:53.600 epic day going out to the woods on a whim 150 00:06:54.160 --> 00:06:55.600 and coming back with five casts. 151 00:06:56.079 --> 00:06:56.800 That's awesome. 152 00:06:57.319 --> 00:07:03.480 Yeah, yeah, everything's coming up, Cliff, Well yeah, yeah, Me 153 00:07:03.519 --> 00:07:06.439 and Millhouse are kind of, you know, kindred spirits in 154 00:07:06.480 --> 00:07:07.000 a lot of ways. 155 00:07:07.240 --> 00:07:08.319 So what's up with you? 156 00:07:08.439 --> 00:07:10.000 Man, anything good, anything unusual? 157 00:07:10.439 --> 00:07:12.560 Yeah, I mean getting nothing. They're getting in the woods more. 158 00:07:12.519 --> 00:07:14.839 So that's good, excellent. Where have you been going? 159 00:07:15.240 --> 00:07:19.560 Just up in the redwoods? Just different spots, nothing big, 160 00:07:19.680 --> 00:07:22.199 you know, just doing a you know, a couple of. 161 00:07:22.199 --> 00:07:24.519 Mile high Well, I mean that's all, that's all I'm doing, 162 00:07:24.720 --> 00:07:27.480 you know. Yeah, you go to a spot where they are, man, 163 00:07:27.480 --> 00:07:29.120 and you'll probably find some stuff that's great. 164 00:07:29.399 --> 00:07:30.920 But up there, it's like you really got it. For 165 00:07:31.199 --> 00:07:33.279 my experiences, you really got to get off trail usually 166 00:07:33.319 --> 00:07:36.959 to have stuff fine stuff or here stuff usually. 167 00:07:37.120 --> 00:07:39.040 Oh yeah that has been mine. But I mean we're 168 00:07:39.079 --> 00:07:40.879 just sticking on the road. So maybe we're just in 169 00:07:40.959 --> 00:07:41.759 a good spot or something. 170 00:07:41.839 --> 00:07:44.000 Yeah, you're in a better spot because there's not people 171 00:07:44.079 --> 00:07:47.399 trapsing around where you're aut like that, like like there's redwoods. 172 00:07:47.800 --> 00:07:49.959 No no, but you can probably go behind those gates 173 00:07:50.000 --> 00:07:50.600 and walk around. 174 00:07:50.639 --> 00:07:51.600 Oh yeah, yeah you can. 175 00:07:52.199 --> 00:07:53.800 And this is the time of year, man, because the 176 00:07:54.319 --> 00:07:57.000 tourist seasons pretty much not in existence right now, even 177 00:07:57.000 --> 00:07:59.399 though there's people around. It's a national park or the 178 00:07:59.439 --> 00:08:02.519 state park least, and of course it doesn't really snow 179 00:08:02.720 --> 00:08:04.759 necessarily on the coast there, So this sounds like a 180 00:08:04.800 --> 00:08:06.120 great time a year to be out in the woods 181 00:08:06.199 --> 00:08:07.000 in the red Yeah. 182 00:08:07.639 --> 00:08:11.079 Yeah, it seemed pretty nice. And then so speaking of 183 00:08:11.120 --> 00:08:15.720 good weather, we got a witness. This is from down 184 00:08:15.800 --> 00:08:20.199 in San Diego. He actually my brother met him in 185 00:08:20.439 --> 00:08:22.879 line or in the bathroom or something waiting in line 186 00:08:22.920 --> 00:08:26.000 with the bathroom at the Dodgers game, Dodgers Padre game. 187 00:08:26.040 --> 00:08:28.279 He was a big Padre fan, so he came up 188 00:08:28.279 --> 00:08:32.679 to LA and Dodger Stadium and they got to talking 189 00:08:32.759 --> 00:08:34.279 in the line, and I guess he had a big 190 00:08:34.320 --> 00:08:36.519 foot hatter. My brother had a big foot shirt or something, 191 00:08:36.559 --> 00:08:39.559 the big foot thing, and they started talking and he's like, 192 00:08:39.639 --> 00:08:41.039 he's do you tell your brother to come down and 193 00:08:41.080 --> 00:08:43.080 check out my place? I got squatches there and then 194 00:08:43.360 --> 00:08:45.320 I talked to him for about ten minutes on the phone. 195 00:08:46.240 --> 00:08:49.240 And then I didn't get his number, and my brother 196 00:08:49.360 --> 00:08:52.480 had it and he ended up losing it. But I 197 00:08:52.519 --> 00:08:53.879 talked to him for about ten minutes, and he sent 198 00:08:53.919 --> 00:08:56.919 me a video clip of him talking, you know, about 199 00:08:56.960 --> 00:08:58.960 a forty five second clip saying, you know, this is 200 00:08:58.960 --> 00:09:01.440 where I'm at, and you know I'm done by lake 201 00:09:01.519 --> 00:09:04.399 handshot and I could just talk about for tests, I'm 202 00:09:04.440 --> 00:09:06.519 like this guy. It's I think he's really got him. Like, 203 00:09:06.639 --> 00:09:10.759 I'm like, he sounds legit. And then I uh, like 204 00:09:10.879 --> 00:09:13.159 a year and a half later, I'm watching We're gonna 205 00:09:13.200 --> 00:09:15.759 have Eli Watson. I'm from small Town Monsters our Guests 206 00:09:15.840 --> 00:09:18.440 like a month ago, and he was He's like, yeah, 207 00:09:18.440 --> 00:09:20.440 I made a movie called Bigfoot the Border. I check 208 00:09:20.440 --> 00:09:23.440 it out. I'm like, oh my god, that's that's Brian, 209 00:09:23.600 --> 00:09:25.440 the guy I talked to. My brother talked to you, 210 00:09:26.240 --> 00:09:29.039 and so I got in touch with him, and he's 211 00:09:29.120 --> 00:09:31.279 gonna come on and we're gonna talk about some Southern 212 00:09:31.320 --> 00:09:32.320 California squatching. 213 00:09:32.799 --> 00:09:36.799 Nice. Yeah, Southern California. I mean, I think it's overlooked 214 00:09:36.840 --> 00:09:40.200 for bigfoot habitat because it's some really crazy habitat down there, man. 215 00:09:40.240 --> 00:09:42.159 I mean, the Grizzlies loved it. There's lots of black 216 00:09:42.240 --> 00:09:45.399 bears around there. Still, why wouldn't there be sasquatches around there? 217 00:09:45.639 --> 00:09:47.200 Yeah, I think and I've always said, I think that 218 00:09:47.320 --> 00:09:49.200 might be the city going to the living peninsulahere. It's 219 00:09:49.240 --> 00:09:52.440 just so watered everywhere in green shrubberries like Vietnam, just 220 00:09:52.519 --> 00:09:56.879 thick jungle like I always thought, like, man, like New Mexico, Arizona, 221 00:09:56.960 --> 00:10:00.159 southern California, Like there's only so many water sources and 222 00:10:00.200 --> 00:10:01.919 there's only so much cover. I mean there's a lot 223 00:10:01.960 --> 00:10:03.559 of there's a lot more cover than people think. But 224 00:10:03.919 --> 00:10:07.879 the waters is the big key down there. And if 225 00:10:08.080 --> 00:10:10.000 you got a spot where they're going through near water, 226 00:10:10.039 --> 00:10:12.840 I mean I think that's a great spot to focus. 227 00:10:13.360 --> 00:10:17.320 Absolutely absolutely. So hey, Brian, welcome the Bigfoot and Beyond 228 00:10:17.440 --> 00:10:20.360 with me and that guy. We really appreciate you coming 229 00:10:20.440 --> 00:10:22.120 on and talking to us and filling this send. What's 230 00:10:22.120 --> 00:10:22.559 been going on. 231 00:10:22.879 --> 00:10:23.679 I had no problem. 232 00:10:24.039 --> 00:10:26.320 I watched your I watched your segment again last time 233 00:10:26.320 --> 00:10:27.960 on the on the documentary. 234 00:10:28.600 --> 00:10:32.080 Yeah, Bigfoot at the Border, Bigfoot the Border, which. 235 00:10:31.960 --> 00:10:34.320 Of course, as Bobo mentioned, is by Eli Watson, part 236 00:10:34.360 --> 00:10:36.919 of the Small Town Monsters crew. I think all that 237 00:10:37.000 --> 00:10:39.759 stuff is Is it for free on YouTube? Brian? Yeah? 238 00:10:39.919 --> 00:10:42.679 It is, oh cool. So I always like driving us 239 00:10:42.720 --> 00:10:47.159 some eyes onto my friend's YouTube pages. So Agaain, I 240 00:10:47.279 --> 00:10:49.320 mentioned to you before the show before we pushed the 241 00:10:49.399 --> 00:10:52.240 record button that I don't really know anything about you 242 00:10:52.519 --> 00:10:55.279 or anything like that, and you briefly mentioned that you've 243 00:10:55.279 --> 00:10:57.679 been doing Bigfoot stuff for like what ten years or something? 244 00:10:57.759 --> 00:10:58.679 Yeah, about ten years? 245 00:10:59.039 --> 00:11:01.480 If I gather things directly from what Bobo said, you've 246 00:11:01.519 --> 00:11:03.559 had activity on your property. 247 00:11:04.039 --> 00:11:05.919 Yeah, I grew up there when I was a little kid, 248 00:11:05.960 --> 00:11:07.840 from about eight to twelve. My dad bought it and 249 00:11:07.919 --> 00:11:11.440 it's an empty property up on top of a mountain range, 250 00:11:12.320 --> 00:11:14.440 and we lived there for four years or so, and 251 00:11:14.679 --> 00:11:16.759 we had all the animals and we had a few 252 00:11:16.840 --> 00:11:20.159 weird things happened, but I never would think bigfoot at 253 00:11:20.200 --> 00:11:23.039 the time. And then the property went left alone for 254 00:11:23.519 --> 00:11:27.039 fifteen years and then I just randomly went up camping 255 00:11:27.120 --> 00:11:30.559 with my friends and it was my dad had the 256 00:11:31.159 --> 00:11:33.279 house bulldoze, so it was just a flat land on 257 00:11:33.399 --> 00:11:35.679 top and we just had a fire pit and we 258 00:11:35.720 --> 00:11:37.679 were just having fun up there, and then stuff started 259 00:11:37.679 --> 00:11:38.039 to happen. 260 00:11:38.559 --> 00:11:41.399 So looking back, when so you lived on this property 261 00:11:41.600 --> 00:11:44.120 as a as a young boy, sounds like and you 262 00:11:44.200 --> 00:11:45.840 said at the time he didn't really put two and 263 00:11:45.919 --> 00:11:48.320 two together that sasquatches might be involved. And I can 264 00:11:48.360 --> 00:11:51.440 totally understand that. What were the things now that you're 265 00:11:51.480 --> 00:11:55.039 older and having had more experiences looking back, what were 266 00:11:55.080 --> 00:11:57.799 the things that could have tipped you off sasquatches were involved? 267 00:11:58.320 --> 00:12:00.399 Well, we had lived in a trailer for before my 268 00:12:00.480 --> 00:12:02.360 dad built the house and we had movie night. There 269 00:12:02.440 --> 00:12:04.840 was five of us in there in one little room. 270 00:12:05.679 --> 00:12:08.600 And one night something walked up behind the trailer and 271 00:12:08.639 --> 00:12:10.639 tapped the wall right next to my dad's head. So 272 00:12:11.000 --> 00:12:13.840 he got out and with the shotgun walked around. There 273 00:12:13.919 --> 00:12:16.279 was nothing there. As soon as he gets back in, 274 00:12:16.720 --> 00:12:19.120 we start the movie again, it comes back and knocks again. 275 00:12:20.200 --> 00:12:22.000 And then there was a couple of times our dogs 276 00:12:22.159 --> 00:12:25.480 got so frightened they jumped in the truck and didn't 277 00:12:25.480 --> 00:12:27.519 want to get out. We dealt with mountain lions and 278 00:12:27.559 --> 00:12:30.360 stuff up there, but that never caused it. And the 279 00:12:30.519 --> 00:12:33.679 horses were freaking out a few times, and just little 280 00:12:33.720 --> 00:12:34.240 stuff like that. 281 00:12:34.879 --> 00:12:36.600 Now you probably had bears in the area as well. 282 00:12:37.039 --> 00:12:40.360 No, they released black bears out there a while back, 283 00:12:40.440 --> 00:12:42.120 but they didn't last long. They just ended up in 284 00:12:42.200 --> 00:12:44.759 the city, so they took them out. Just mountain lions 285 00:12:44.799 --> 00:12:45.120 and deer. 286 00:12:45.519 --> 00:12:47.240 Mountains had a lot of deer, Yeah, a. 287 00:12:47.240 --> 00:12:49.039 Lot of deer. I get them coming through in groups. 288 00:12:49.519 --> 00:12:51.360 Kats. Yeah. 289 00:12:51.799 --> 00:12:53.320 Now, when you said it tapped on the outside of 290 00:12:53.320 --> 00:12:55.200 the trailer, is it like a tap tap tap or 291 00:12:55.279 --> 00:12:55.759 is a boo? 292 00:12:56.759 --> 00:13:00.879 It was more like a knuckle tapping. Okay, like multiple Yeah, 293 00:13:01.200 --> 00:13:03.159 it wasn't banging, gotcha. 294 00:13:02.879 --> 00:13:06.000 Gotcha, But clearly something some sort of pattern that made 295 00:13:06.039 --> 00:13:08.799 you go, that's not something hitting the trailer, that's yeah happened. 296 00:13:09.399 --> 00:13:11.159 Yeah, we just figured as a ghost or something. 297 00:13:11.240 --> 00:13:12.879 But I love that that was your first go to. 298 00:13:13.679 --> 00:13:17.039 Yeah, it's about all we could think of. It's too 299 00:13:17.200 --> 00:13:19.000 dark and there's no one up there walking around. 300 00:13:19.399 --> 00:13:21.480 Okay, so your dogs have been frightened a few times 301 00:13:21.519 --> 00:13:23.720 in this particular area. And on top of that, you 302 00:13:23.759 --> 00:13:26.000 had some knocking on the outside the trailer with no 303 00:13:26.360 --> 00:13:29.919 apparent source for it. Anything else, things moved around in 304 00:13:29.960 --> 00:13:31.720 the yard, or strange sounds in. 305 00:13:31.720 --> 00:13:35.039 The night, or no, we had some weird screams. We 306 00:13:35.120 --> 00:13:37.440 figured we're just mountain lions. But now that I look back, 307 00:13:37.759 --> 00:13:40.840 after what I've experienced now, I feared a lot of 308 00:13:40.879 --> 00:13:42.240 those noises probably weren't them. 309 00:13:42.639 --> 00:13:45.679 Did did any of your neighbors or your dad or 310 00:13:45.679 --> 00:13:49.320 anybody like comments about seeing them or seeing shadows in 311 00:13:49.360 --> 00:13:51.799 the night or anything like that, Well, not that I remember. 312 00:13:51.879 --> 00:13:53.919 It was a long time ago, but not that I 313 00:13:54.039 --> 00:13:56.120 remember that. We moved out of there because the neighbors 314 00:13:56.159 --> 00:13:57.799 were two in the drugs and all that. So my 315 00:13:57.919 --> 00:14:00.519 dad got us out of there. They're a little wild, tweaky. 316 00:14:00.879 --> 00:14:01.080 Yeah. 317 00:14:02.080 --> 00:14:05.440 Yeah, so it is the Inland Empire, you know. So yeah, interesting, 318 00:14:06.000 --> 00:14:08.080 Now how much land did you have? How big was this? Properly? 319 00:14:08.279 --> 00:14:09.720 That's ten acres? I still got it. 320 00:14:09.799 --> 00:14:12.799 Now since I haven't seen the documentary, can you describe 321 00:14:12.840 --> 00:14:13.440 the landscape. 322 00:14:14.000 --> 00:14:16.919 It's on top and it's like a football field size clearing, 323 00:14:17.320 --> 00:14:20.000 and then there's a little road that goes up on 324 00:14:20.120 --> 00:14:24.399 both sides with a little circle plot, and then the 325 00:14:24.519 --> 00:14:26.600 dryway comes up and it's on a big bank on 326 00:14:26.679 --> 00:14:30.399 a dirt road, and then the back area is mountains 327 00:14:30.519 --> 00:14:33.159 and it gets goes into the Indian reservation, so it's 328 00:14:33.200 --> 00:14:33.759 all emptied. 329 00:14:34.279 --> 00:14:37.000 The neighbor there's direct neighbors. I mean, it's like when 330 00:14:37.039 --> 00:14:37.440 you look. 331 00:14:37.320 --> 00:14:39.960 At it from the Google most of those are abandoned. 332 00:14:40.360 --> 00:14:42.039 Most of those properly there's no one even there. 333 00:14:42.679 --> 00:14:44.799 It Is it heavily forested or is it that scrub 334 00:14:44.919 --> 00:14:47.840 stuff that chaparral that southern California mountains are thick with. 335 00:14:48.519 --> 00:14:50.919 It's scrubs, But there's enough trees to make it thick. 336 00:14:51.000 --> 00:14:53.120 If you go on the right areas, it's it's pretty thick. 337 00:14:53.559 --> 00:14:54.720 There's some big oak trees. 338 00:14:56.600 --> 00:14:59.919 Stay tuned for more Bigfoot and beyond with Cliff and Bogo. 339 00:15:00.000 --> 00:15:08.000 We'll be right back after these messages. 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See website for full details, 371 00:16:45.480 --> 00:16:47.519 restrictions and important safety information. 372 00:16:48.919 --> 00:16:52.720 So, okay, so you moved out of the property at 373 00:16:52.759 --> 00:16:55.360 some point when you're still young, move live somewhere else 374 00:16:55.399 --> 00:16:58.120 for a while, but you still own the property. What 375 00:16:58.440 --> 00:17:01.240 was what we'll call that previous chapter one? Where does 376 00:17:01.320 --> 00:17:02.120 chapter two start? 377 00:17:02.840 --> 00:17:04.599 About ten years ago I went up with a couple 378 00:17:04.680 --> 00:17:08.000 buddies and we just made a little fire pit and 379 00:17:08.200 --> 00:17:10.319 one of my almost some thirty eight, so I was 380 00:17:10.359 --> 00:17:14.640 about about twenty eight twenty nine, and we just made 381 00:17:14.680 --> 00:17:17.480 a little fire pit and we're just having fun, just 382 00:17:17.559 --> 00:17:20.880 at night, doing whatever. And on about the third time, 383 00:17:21.000 --> 00:17:23.000 I'm sitting there and we had a barbecue that had 384 00:17:23.039 --> 00:17:25.599 the lid on it about fifteen feet in front of us, 385 00:17:25.680 --> 00:17:27.799 and we're in our tent. It was like a half tent, 386 00:17:28.559 --> 00:17:31.400 and rock bounce right off the barbecue. So we all 387 00:17:31.480 --> 00:17:34.799 stopped and and I've always been in a big foot 388 00:17:34.839 --> 00:17:36.319 but I never thought it'd be up there. But I 389 00:17:36.440 --> 00:17:38.319 was just like, all right, let's trumple lights and be quiet. 390 00:17:39.039 --> 00:17:41.000 And then we sat there with the lights off, and 391 00:17:41.079 --> 00:17:44.079 then about five seconds later, another rock bounce right off 392 00:17:44.119 --> 00:17:47.519 of it perfectly. So then after that I was kind 393 00:17:47.559 --> 00:17:50.599 of thinking like, Okay, maybe something, maybe they are up here, 394 00:17:50.599 --> 00:17:54.480 because something's definitely up here. And yeah, and then about 395 00:17:55.079 --> 00:17:57.880 about a month and a half into it, we moved 396 00:17:57.920 --> 00:17:59.799 the fire pit to the other side, more by the 397 00:17:59.839 --> 00:18:03.720 trees where the creek comes out, and there was three 398 00:18:03.759 --> 00:18:06.160 of us. I was splitting logs, my friend was I 399 00:18:06.200 --> 00:18:09.000 don't know what he was doing, but and then his 400 00:18:09.119 --> 00:18:11.599 girlfriend was right there, and it gets dark out there. 401 00:18:11.640 --> 00:18:13.559