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<v Speaker 1>This is WWE Superstar Drew McIntyre, and you're listening to

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<v Speaker 1>the WWE podcast, the.

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<v Speaker 2>Show, the one that everybody wants me.

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<v Speaker 3>God, we've stood three sixteen said, I just gluss your ass.

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<v Speaker 2>This is my eye. You're gonna acknowledge me? All right, everybody, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>there is no shortage of things to talk about tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>Tonight We're gonna focus on two specific topics, and I've

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<v Speaker 2>got Anthony DeMarco here with me as always every single

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<v Speaker 2>Monday night, to talk about the current events of WWE,

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<v Speaker 2>and we usually pick out a couple of stories that happened,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're gonna get into that with Vince and brock

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<v Speaker 2>Leszer's return. But welcome to the show, Anthony. How's everything going?

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<v Speaker 3>Not bad? Men? A bit of a hectic. I know

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<v Speaker 3>that we had talked about it.

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<v Speaker 4>The process of moving is maybe single handedly the worst

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<v Speaker 4>thing one could experience in their life. Obviously I'm grossy exaggerating,

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<v Speaker 4>but it's completed for the time being. I have to

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<v Speaker 4>do it all over again in sixteen weeks or so,

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<v Speaker 4>but for now I can sit back and relax a bit.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm sure you know that feeling I'm talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>I do and I thought that was like the worst exhaustion,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you have kids and then you're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know there was a fourth level of hell,

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<v Speaker 2>and then there is so yeah, but you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>get it, and you know, definitely we'll get through this

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<v Speaker 2>tonight and you know you can get back to get

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<v Speaker 2>back to your insanity. And so let's talk about Vince

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<v Speaker 2>McMahon because right now, I mean, he seems to be,

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<v Speaker 2>at least for the moment, the most talked about thing

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<v Speaker 2>in the world of wrestling, and we all know the story,

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<v Speaker 2>at least what we can know at this point. There

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<v Speaker 2>was an investigation, There is an ongoing investigation with Vince McMahon,

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<v Speaker 2>and the board has put a committe together to essentially

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<v Speaker 2>investigate a three million dollars settlement, an alleged three million

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<v Speaker 2>dollars settlement from Vince McMahon to kind of a hush

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<v Speaker 2>hush type of deal with former employees. I guess one

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<v Speaker 2>of them or both of them, or I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>One of them at least was a paralegal in the

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<v Speaker 2>organization that is no longer in the organization, and they're

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<v Speaker 2>looking into alleged misconduct with that money and if it's

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<v Speaker 2>found that he's guilty. You know, we'll have to see,

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<v Speaker 2>but right now, Vince McMahon, Vince McMahon has stepped aside,

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<v Speaker 2>not stepped down. I guess that was a distinction, as

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<v Speaker 2>Stephanie steps in his introm ceo. Let me let me

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<v Speaker 2>stop there. What do you make of this whole thing?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I mean, it's kind of crazy when it comes

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<v Speaker 4>out in concrete info because we've seen the mister McMahon

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<v Speaker 4>character play someone who has abused their power, has cheated

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<v Speaker 4>on his wife, had affairs left, right and center, been

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<v Speaker 4>obsessive over women, and you know, I guess you always

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<v Speaker 4>kind of thought that that was a bit of how

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<v Speaker 4>the person Vince McMahon was, but you always kind of

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<v Speaker 4>like to think that it was just the character and

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<v Speaker 4>mister McMahon. But then when a report like this comes out,

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<v Speaker 4>it really kind of makes you think, like damn, Like,

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<v Speaker 4>was he almost trying to live you know, his real

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<v Speaker 4>life on television in a way, And was mister McMahon

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<v Speaker 4>always just like an amplified version of Vince McMahon, And like, look,

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<v Speaker 4>I read as much as probably you did, but like,

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<v Speaker 4>just just before I go any further, the report, the

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<v Speaker 4>early reports is that they were consensual relationships correct.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that they were consensual, yes.

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<v Speaker 4>And that they are investigating the fact that he paid

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<v Speaker 4>three million dollars to keep it hush hush of the

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<v Speaker 4>company's money.

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<v Speaker 2>Right stockholder shareholder mind.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And it's tough because, like it's just it's awful

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<v Speaker 4>to hear about, especially when you consider that it happened

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<v Speaker 4>in twenty nineteen, I believe, and you're just like, hey, god,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, this guy was probably like already in his

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<v Speaker 4>early to mid seventies and he's still doing stuff like this,

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<v Speaker 4>and it really kind of questions, like it makes you

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<v Speaker 4>question the person. But at the same time, there's a

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<v Speaker 4>part of me that says, like, my god, like, I

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<v Speaker 4>guess we always kind of knew this, and this's just

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<v Speaker 4>kind of confirms what we always knew that the Vince

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<v Speaker 4>McMahon person wasn't completely far off from the mister McMahon character.

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<v Speaker 4>And I guess all that I could kind of say,

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<v Speaker 4>if to kind of find some kind of silver lining

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<v Speaker 4>in this, is that at least they.

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<v Speaker 3>Were consensual relationships.

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<v Speaker 4>It doesn't and again, like they were consensual, but why

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<v Speaker 4>are they completely consensual where there's their manipulation going on. Uh,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, obviously he's a high rank one of the

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<v Speaker 4>most powerful men in the country. You know, I can't

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<v Speaker 4>imagine that did the age come out of the women

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<v Speaker 4>that No, I don't think so well either way, I

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<v Speaker 4>can imagine that a still a working woman that you

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<v Speaker 4>would have to assume is somewhere in the range of

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<v Speaker 4>twenty to fifty years old, would be really you know

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<v Speaker 4>excited to you know, start doing you know, sexual things

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<v Speaker 4>with the guy in his early seventies.

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<v Speaker 3>So, I mean, it just kind of really paints.

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<v Speaker 4>WWE in a bad way, and it kind of confirms

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<v Speaker 4>what a lot of people have always speculated about Vince McMahon.

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<v Speaker 2>What would you say, Well, yeah, it certainly lives up

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<v Speaker 2>to the uh living your gimmick accusation. And maybe that's

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<v Speaker 2>why it seemed to work so well on camera for

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<v Speaker 2>Vince for so many years that you know, he seems

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<v Speaker 2>so believable in what he was doing on camera, and

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<v Speaker 2>he was one of the best heels the companies the

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<v Speaker 2>organization's ever seen, which is maybe why it works so

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<v Speaker 2>scarily well. But you know, look, I mean there's this

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<v Speaker 2>is still an ongoing investigation. We can make our assumptions

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<v Speaker 2>that this is all true. And you know, again there

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<v Speaker 2>is no conclusion on this yet. They are still doing

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<v Speaker 2>their investigations. So I mean, I guess we'll go with

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<v Speaker 2>the presumption that he's guilty of this. I mean, that's

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<v Speaker 2>the only way to do this. Otherwise we have nothing

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about. But if he's indeed guilty of this,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, the thing is, even if he used private

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<v Speaker 2>funds like okay, say it was proven he did make

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<v Speaker 2>this payment, but the payment was made from his own money,

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<v Speaker 2>it was not from Stair stockholders shareholders money. I think

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<v Speaker 2>that only makes it a little better from the perspective

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<v Speaker 2>of the shareholders saying, Okay, he wasn't misusing appropriate appropriating

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<v Speaker 2>our funds, but he's still kind of a scumbag that

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<v Speaker 2>is cheating on his wife and paid the woman to

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<v Speaker 2>be quiet about it. Now, he wouldn't be the first

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<v Speaker 2>nor the last millionaire or billionaire to do this. It's

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<v Speaker 2>probably way more common than people realize, especially in the

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<v Speaker 2>world of sports, with things like this that we don't

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<v Speaker 2>don't even know exist until they come up. So Vince

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<v Speaker 2>would not be unique in that way. But it is

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<v Speaker 2>given that Vince McMahon has you know, it's taken this

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<v Speaker 2>long for something that does to happen, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna still say there's a small sliver that it's

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<v Speaker 2>not true, but I'm gonna lean on the side of

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<v Speaker 2>yet probably did happen. And if it comes out that

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<v Speaker 2>he actually did this with funds from that were like

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<v Speaker 2>publicly traded, which I think would be really bad. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean that that would make this worse for him. But

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<v Speaker 2>if that indeed is the case, then I think Vince

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<v Speaker 2>McMahon may have no option, no alternative, but to permanently

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<v Speaker 2>step down as CEO and maybe leave the company all together.

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<v Speaker 2>That I mean, do you think that's even a possibility?

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<v Speaker 2>A guy that once defeated God in a tag team

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<v Speaker 2>match has an opportunity. I mean, do you think that's

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<v Speaker 2>even possible. Say the worst case scenario for Vince comes

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<v Speaker 2>comes to pass and it's found that he is guilty,

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<v Speaker 2>do you think that'll actually leave the company?

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<v Speaker 4>You know you often thought, or I'll just use myself

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<v Speaker 4>as an example, that there would be nothing, aside from

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<v Speaker 4>death that would be able to pry Vince McMahon away

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<v Speaker 4>from WWE and full control both on the business side

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<v Speaker 4>and the creative side. And he's managed to maintain control

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<v Speaker 4>of the creative side even through this so far. And

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<v Speaker 4>we'll get to his promo and appearance on SmackDown three

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<v Speaker 4>nights ago. But I feel like when you're a publicly

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<v Speaker 4>traded company and so many billions of dollars are at play,

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<v Speaker 4>and there's so many people with their hands in the pot,

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<v Speaker 4>and we're living in as such a fragile climate as

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<v Speaker 4>we are today, where cancel culture is a real thing,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm not referring to that. This would be like

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<v Speaker 4>a victim of cancel culture. If they do come out

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<v Speaker 4>to be true these accusations, I think that they would

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<v Speaker 4>be completely justified for people to be completely upset about them.

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<v Speaker 4>But it feels as though, especially when you take into Aunt,

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<v Speaker 4>his daughter coming in as the interim CEO and chairwoman,

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<v Speaker 4>and how much of a philanthropist she tries to present

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<v Speaker 4>herself as, I feel like this would be something that

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<v Speaker 4>he would.

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<v Speaker 3>Not be able to survive.

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<v Speaker 4>And to be honest, I'm still very surprised that he

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<v Speaker 4>was able to maintain creative control and allowed to appear

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<v Speaker 4>on SmackDown like that for me, and I have no

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<v Speaker 4>doubt in my mind that was completely a Vince McMahon

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<v Speaker 4>call to try and act like, you know, I did

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<v Speaker 4>nothing wrong, and you know, try and get out in

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<v Speaker 4>front of it in a way. But I just the

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<v Speaker 4>more and more they let Vince McMahon go here, it

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<v Speaker 4>just seems to be tarnishing his legacy. And you know,

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<v Speaker 4>we talked about his appearance at WrestleMania, how he botched

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<v Speaker 4>the stunner, how he looks now, the way he kind

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<v Speaker 4>of acts awkwardly like. And this is aside from the

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<v Speaker 4>real life stuff that's going on. From an ons screen perspective,

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<v Speaker 4>I can't speak for you, but I just feel like

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<v Speaker 4>he's absolutely tarnishing his legacy as a great arguably greatest

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<v Speaker 4>heal of all time as far as on screen characters go.

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<v Speaker 4>But now you couple in what's going on behind the

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<v Speaker 4>scenes and now is coming out publicly in real life matters,

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<v Speaker 4>and how big of a company WWE is and how

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<v Speaker 4>many big how much money is at play here, it

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<v Speaker 4>seems like something that Vince McMahon will not be able

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<v Speaker 4>to evade, especially when you consider that a guy like

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<v Speaker 4>Nick con has gotten involved recently and it is a

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<v Speaker 4>publicly traded company. I feel like this may be a

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<v Speaker 4>storm that he can't avoid this time around.

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<v Speaker 2>Even the powerful Vince McMahon may not be able to

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<v Speaker 2>survive this. I mean, Vince McMahon is a guy that

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<v Speaker 2>has survived the courts before, but in this case, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if he could survive because of the back lessions.

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<v Speaker 2>Especially as you said, the culture that we're in right

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<v Speaker 2>now is that is sensitive to these kinds of things,

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<v Speaker 2>and for better or worse, we're not going to get

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<v Speaker 2>into that, but it does exist and I think that

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<v Speaker 2>it would be a big factor, especially from a PR

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<v Speaker 2>perspective now. It's also interesting to note that Stephanie McMahon

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<v Speaker 2>and I brought this up, and others have two as well.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not a genius that thought of this, but Stephanie

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<v Speaker 2>McMahon stepped kind of aside from WWE a number of

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<v Speaker 2>months ago, you know, just prior to that this news

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<v Speaker 2>coming out, and before I mean since essentially the womb

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<v Speaker 2>she was in WWE day to day, involved in the

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<v Speaker 2>decisions involved in whatever. I mean. She she actually was

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<v Speaker 2>selling T shirts early early on in her childhood and

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<v Speaker 2>made her way all the way all the way up

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<v Speaker 2>to the chief brand officer whatever. And the thing is,

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<v Speaker 2>is it a little bit suspicious that she maybe you know,

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<v Speaker 2>kind of saw the writing on the wall. She knew

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<v Speaker 2>it was coming down the line. She probably knew ahead

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<v Speaker 2>of time that there was there's something going on with

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<v Speaker 2>her dad, and she heard rumblings of this coming out,

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<v Speaker 2>and she smartly decided a couple of months ago to

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<v Speaker 2>step aside from WWE and do kind of her own

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<v Speaker 2>thing and distance herself. And then all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 2>these allegations come out and she's like, oh, well, wow,

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<v Speaker 2>this is shocking. Yeah, I didn't know any of this

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<v Speaker 2>self preservation on her part, or it just could be

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<v Speaker 2>dumb luck. I don't know which one it is, but

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<v Speaker 2>it is just very suspicious timing where she decided the

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<v Speaker 2>moment probably she found out to distance herself, and then

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<v Speaker 2>when the news actually broke, she has some kind of

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<v Speaker 2>soft landing to say, well, I mean, I left a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of months ago to do my own thing. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what's going on here. I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>who knows. But do you think that Stephanie knew something

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<v Speaker 2>ahead of time and kind of made the smart move

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<v Speaker 2>to get away from the company and distance herself, so

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<v Speaker 2>that when the news broke, she wasn't associated in any

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, like logic would suggest that, right, Like, it

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<v Speaker 4>feels like way too coincidental that she took a leave

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<v Speaker 4>of absence what in late May, and then less than

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<v Speaker 4>a month later this all comes out the only thing

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<v Speaker 4>that would maybe suggest the opposite is that she was

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<v Speaker 4>like placed in as the interim CEO and chairwoman. But again,

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<v Speaker 4>you're right, Like, I just think that it's too coincidental.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe it wasn't like solely because of this, but maybe

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<v Speaker 4>it was like she wanted a few weeks away or

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<v Speaker 4>she wanted some time away, and they then she found

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<v Speaker 4>out that this was maybe coming down the pike, and

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<v Speaker 4>she said, okay, well now maybe is no better time

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<v Speaker 4>than now. And I mean just for someone like Stephanie McMahon,

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<v Speaker 4>who has been so gung ho about distancing herself from

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<v Speaker 4>the wrestling aspect of the company, you know, a self

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<v Speaker 4>proclaimed philanthropist, all these like how would you say relationships

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<v Speaker 4>with these companies or these foundations like Connor's Cure and

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<v Speaker 4>the Susan G. Coman Foundation, Like I just feel like

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<v Speaker 4>this would be the where this is rather the worst

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<v Speaker 4>possible scenario for someone like Stephanie McMahon. But I guess

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<v Speaker 4>I'll just flip it into a question back to you.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you think that her becoming chairwoman and CEO was

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<v Speaker 4>something that she knew was going to come at the

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<v Speaker 4>end of the tunnel here? Or do you think that

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<v Speaker 4>maybe the board of directors just picked her because they

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<v Speaker 4>truly felt that she was the best person for the job.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think that in every organization, especially one as

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<v Speaker 2>large and as WWE is, they have a succession plan,

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<v Speaker 2>like they knew. For example, if Vince McMahon were to

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<v Speaker 2>die and you know he just you know, get hit

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<v Speaker 2>by a bus, they know who's going to step in,

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<v Speaker 2>and that person is Stephanie. Now it also is smart

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<v Speaker 2>from the perspective of creating the illusion or the reality

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<v Speaker 2>that the company is stable with a McMahon in charge

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<v Speaker 2>to the shareholders and stockholders. If it was somebody they

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<v Speaker 2>never heard of that is suddenly the CEO of the organization,

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<v Speaker 2>people are maybe scrambling, have some doubts, some concerns, and

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<v Speaker 2>some of their stock I think it's it is something

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<v Speaker 2>that they thought of ahead of time. Even if this

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't the case with a scandal, if Vince were to

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<v Speaker 2>literally die in his sleep or something that they have

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<v Speaker 2>to have a succession plan, and I think Stephanie was

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<v Speaker 2>that succession plan and is that succession plan. And it

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<v Speaker 2>is smart from the perspective of stability as a whole

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<v Speaker 2>to the public eye. So you know, do I think

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<v Speaker 2>this is going to be permanent? I mean, time will tell.

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<v Speaker 2>Vince is still involved in the creative, which doesn't surprise me.

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<v Speaker 2>He's stepping aside, but he's not really stepping away from

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<v Speaker 2>his work, is what. It sounds like. He's still kind

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<v Speaker 2>of the man, even without the title of being CEO

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<v Speaker 2>and him coming out on smack Down. I just want

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<v Speaker 2>to say, like, I really thought that was like I

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<v Speaker 2>understand why he did it. I understand why he did

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<v Speaker 2>it because it was to send a message to everybody

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<v Speaker 2>watching that he isn't going anywhere. He's not shying away

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<v Speaker 2>from this and emphasizing the word together as if we're

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to just back him on everything. I think that's

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<v Speaker 2>what the message was. And he didn't say much of

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<v Speaker 2>it anything, which really pissed me off because it was

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<v Speaker 2>very to me, very kind of narcissistic on his part

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<v Speaker 2>to just do that. I'm like, dude, you should just

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<v Speaker 2>go back and take care of business. You don't need

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<v Speaker 2>to come out here for your own ego to send

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<v Speaker 2>a message like we know who you are, we know

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<v Speaker 2>what kind of person you are. Go back and take

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<v Speaker 2>care of business. You don't need to come out and

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<v Speaker 2>do this public stunt. That is literally you've said nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>People were just like, what the hell is that? I

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<v Speaker 2>was sitting there, I'm like, that's it. He literally repeated

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<v Speaker 2>the signature video package at the start of the show,

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<v Speaker 2>like that's it. He repeated like four words. I did

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<v Speaker 2>not like that at all. I understand why he did it,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think it was left a lot of people like,

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<v Speaker 2>what was the exact point of this? Vince? You took

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<v Speaker 2>up a small amount of time to do what to

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<v Speaker 2>to pop a rating because you knew that, Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>he's there's a scandal going on, he's gonnappear on smack Down.

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<v Speaker 2>What the hell is he gonna say? You know? And

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<v Speaker 2>we got literally nothing.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, for me, that reeked of him saying like, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna show them that I'm actually innocent and i

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<v Speaker 4>can do whatever I want and I'm not rattled by

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<v Speaker 4>these reports and nothing's gonna stop me. But it's just

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<v Speaker 4>like you literally came out just to tell us that

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<v Speaker 4>you're still in charge, basically right like that, there's no

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<v Speaker 4>other reasoning for him appearing. And I feel like the

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<v Speaker 4>last few times that Vince has come out, save for

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<v Speaker 4>what he did lately with Austin theory, but like when

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<v Speaker 4>it's announced, like, oh, Vince McMahon is gonna be on SmackDown,

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<v Speaker 4>he comes out and he says nothing.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like when he was meant to open the.

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<v Speaker 4>Show, I believe on SmackDown when they first came back

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<v Speaker 4>in front of audience, in front of people, and he

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<v Speaker 4>just came out and he said, where the hell have

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<v Speaker 4>you been?

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<v Speaker 3>And then he left, and I'm just in my head,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just like, just go away, and look, this.

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<v Speaker 4>Is not for me to make light of what all

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<v Speaker 4>these accusations and what's going on in real life. But

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<v Speaker 4>for a moment, let's talk about vin Vi McMahon on screen.

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<v Speaker 4>Does anybody want to see Vince McMahon on screen anymore?

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<v Speaker 4>For me, it's no, And it's been no probably since,

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<v Speaker 4>to be quite honest with you, probably since he got

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<v Speaker 4>involved with the Roman Reigns and Triple H program back

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<v Speaker 4>in twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the last.

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<v Speaker 4>Time that I could remember, and that's we're talking six

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<v Speaker 4>years ago now or six and a half years ago now,

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<v Speaker 4>that Vince McMahon resembled any kind of version of his

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<v Speaker 4>past self. And you know, I'm not a huge fan

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<v Speaker 4>of Stephanie McMahon on screen, but why not let Stephanie

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<v Speaker 4>McMahon be that character. Why not let Triple H be

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<v Speaker 4>that on screen character. Hell let Shane McMahon be the

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<v Speaker 4>on screen character. But it's just so sad now, and

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<v Speaker 4>there's no other way to put it. It's just sad

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<v Speaker 4>to watch him try and be what he used to be.

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<v Speaker 4>And I feel like, in a lot of ways, that's

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<v Speaker 4>the way it is in real life too, that he

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<v Speaker 4>still tries to be that genius that create genius and

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<v Speaker 4>this over the top powerful guy in real life, that

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<v Speaker 4>he makes these bonehead decisions to like book himself, to

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<v Speaker 4>open SmackDown, to quite literally say nothing and just come

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<v Speaker 4>off as an egotistical narcissist.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know it's.

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<v Speaker 4>Sad because again, take away the real life parts of

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<v Speaker 4>it for a second. It's said that he's tarnishing his

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<v Speaker 4>on screen character, his on screen legacy, and now we're

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<v Speaker 4>seeing him tarnish his real life legacy.

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<v Speaker 2>It's akin to when people go beyond the wrestling years,

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<v Speaker 2>when you're just like, dude, it's time to hang up

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<v Speaker 2>the boots. Can you please stop ruining your legacy. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean a lot of criticism was hit. It sent undertakers away,

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<v Speaker 2>and some of it legitimate, some of it not. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to inn ring and when wrestlers just

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<v Speaker 2>don't know when to let go. I think Vince also

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<v Speaker 2>has that sickness, and I understand it, Like, even though

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not I don't have the size of the ego

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<v Speaker 2>the size of Vince mc mann, I do understand it

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<v Speaker 2>on some left, like when you love something so much

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<v Speaker 2>and this is your baby and you've created it, and

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<v Speaker 2>you have been successful in the past, as you and

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<v Speaker 2>I said, arguably one of the best heals in the

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<v Speaker 2>organ in the entire industry ever, and he wasn't even

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<v Speaker 2>a real wrestler. So to let go of that and

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<v Speaker 2>not appear on screen, I'm sure to him is hard

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<v Speaker 2>to let go of. But I think also he recognizes.

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<v Speaker 2>I do still think he has some self awareness to

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<v Speaker 2>realize that he can't speak long form much more anymore

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<v Speaker 2>because he mumbles, Like you really have to listen to

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<v Speaker 2>what Vince is saying. He just kind of like mumbles

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<v Speaker 2>a bunch of words together, and it's like Grandpa, like

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<v Speaker 2>can you can you slow down? It feels like he

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<v Speaker 2>just at this point should be kind of in a

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<v Speaker 2>rocking chair playing with his grandchildren, like you know when

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<v Speaker 2>I was your age, palll you know, I used to

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<v Speaker 2>be you know, like that kind of stuff, Like you

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<v Speaker 2>shouldn't be running an organization at this age. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you just shouldn't be. That's all. It's time. We all

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<v Speaker 2>need to move on. There needs to be a succession

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<v Speaker 2>plan in place, and maybe he is forced out with

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<v Speaker 2>this whole scenario. So do I think he's hardishing his legacy?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, beyond the scandal, which you will hear about

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<v Speaker 2>the results of that maybe in the coming weeks or months,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, certainly, Yeah, I mean because for a long

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<v Speaker 2>time now, especially with the Austin theory thing, which really

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<v Speaker 2>put it over the top for me, of him just

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<v Speaker 2>for whatever reason, sitting in an office talking about golden eggs,

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<v Speaker 2>mumbling to Austin theory, em masculating a talent you're supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to be elevating all that kind of stuff made no

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<v Speaker 2>sense to me. And also he was not coherent. I

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<v Speaker 2>cannot hear what you're saying, Vince. So yeah, I'm on

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<v Speaker 2>top of the bone headed creative decisions. It's just his

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<v Speaker 2>mental faculties are wearing, as we all will when we

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<v Speaker 2>get to that age, and he just unless something forces

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<v Speaker 2>him out like this and there's public outcry from stockholders

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<v Speaker 2>and shareholders, I do not believe that he will leave

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<v Speaker 2>the organization unless there is like almost unanimous, unanimous movement

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<v Speaker 2>to get him out. So well, I heard that.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, Stephanie McMahon, if she sticks in this role, I

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<v Speaker 4>believe there's Wade Keller who reported it that if she

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<v Speaker 4>ends up sticking in this role as the permanent CEO,

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<v Speaker 4>she's gonna lean a lot on Triple H. No surprise there,

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<v Speaker 4>but Paul Hayman, and that Paul Hayman would get a

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<v Speaker 4>massive role in Creative And let's just play, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>for funzies, the hypothetical scenario that Vince McMahon is forced out.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you think Stephanie McMahon becoming the CEO and chairwoman

419
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<v Speaker 4>and delegating a lot of the creative decisions to Paul

420
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<v Speaker 4>Haman and presumably Triple H would be a good thing

421
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<v Speaker 4>for the company.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean both of them are proven. Like I mean,

423
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<v Speaker 2>Triple H built NXT from literally nothing. I mean they

424
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<v Speaker 2>built it from the days of essentially doubled Are to

425
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<v Speaker 2>an established brand that has credibility around the world. And

426
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<v Speaker 2>then of course Paul Hayman an established, well documented creative mind.

427
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<v Speaker 2>Now he's also getting up there in h two. Age

428
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<v Speaker 2>is a factor here, guys, Like I hate to say it,

429
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<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying Paul Hayman is completely out of his prime,

430
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<v Speaker 2>but he's on the back nine. I mean, let's be honest,

431
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<v Speaker 2>He's not a young guy. But at least in the

432
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<v Speaker 2>next ten to fifteen years, could Paul Hammond be a

433
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<v Speaker 2>guy that you could rely on. Absolutely, he's proven. He's

434
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<v Speaker 2>one of the best problems on the ever in the

435
00:23:12.400 --> 00:23:15.720
<v Speaker 2>industry ever barn on any generation I put him up against.

436
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<v Speaker 2>He's a guy that had built as ECW. He's a

437
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<v Speaker 2>guy that actually created Stone Cold. Steve auser at least

438
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<v Speaker 2>created the environment to help facilitate Stone Cold to become

439
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<v Speaker 2>Stone Cold. You know. So yeah, I mean I think

440
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<v Speaker 2>that would be fine. Why not? I mean, they're both proven.

441
00:23:32.960 --> 00:23:35.359
<v Speaker 2>Why go with somebody that you don't know. Now, some

442
00:23:35.400 --> 00:23:37.680
<v Speaker 2>people may say, well, it's even with Vince gone, it's

443
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<v Speaker 2>kind of the same thing, like the apple doesn't fall

444
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<v Speaker 2>far from the tree. Stephanie's a chip off the old block,

445
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<v Speaker 2>whatever analogy you want to use. And there are some

446
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<v Speaker 2>realities to that. I mean, just because Vince is gone,

447
00:23:49.599 --> 00:23:52.640
<v Speaker 2>some people think that, you know, all will be well,

448
00:23:52.759 --> 00:23:56.400
<v Speaker 2>it'll be a totally fresh new product. I even if

449
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<v Speaker 2>that were the case, where Paul Hammond and Triple h

450
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<v Speaker 2>each run raw or small her both or whatever, and

451
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<v Speaker 2>Stephanie's the CEO and Vince's gone and the evil Vince

452
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<v Speaker 2>McMahon is sitting at home, I still don't think we're

453
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<v Speaker 2>gonna see a massive change in WWE because you still

454
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<v Speaker 2>have a McMahon in charge. You still have everybody that

455
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<v Speaker 2>Vince McMahon hired in creative there, presumably everybody that is

456
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<v Speaker 2>in the production team and in helping create the product

457
00:24:21.599 --> 00:24:23.799
<v Speaker 2>that it is today. You still have all those people

458
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<v Speaker 2>there that are all in the same positions. There are

459
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<v Speaker 2>no new minds unless you literally clean house and start fresh,

460
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<v Speaker 2>which they won't do because it's not a smart move.

461
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<v Speaker 2>If you're a publicly traded company. There's a lot of

462
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<v Speaker 2>restrictions and things you need to consider when you're a

463
00:24:36.160 --> 00:24:39.400
<v Speaker 2>publicly traded organization. So I don't think with Vince gone

464
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<v Speaker 2>that things are just gonna bam magically change. Now. You

465
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<v Speaker 2>may see small things here and there, but I think

466
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<v Speaker 2>largely it'll be run mostly the same that Vince has

467
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<v Speaker 2>run it because Stephanie learned under Vince McMahon. She was

468
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<v Speaker 2>his daughter, for God's sakes, and she is got Vince

469
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<v Speaker 2>McMahon's blood literally running through her veins, so she's not

470
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<v Speaker 2>a carbon copy. But I think largely things won't change.

471
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<v Speaker 2>And I hate to say that for people that want

472
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<v Speaker 2>to see a massive change in WW.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean, I just wonder if stephan McMahon would

474
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<v Speaker 4>delegate more because she so doesn't want to be a

475
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<v Speaker 4>part of the actual wrestling aspect of it, right, But

476
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<v Speaker 4>like I wonder if maybe that would be like a

477
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<v Speaker 4>hidden positive, that because she doesn't want to be really

478
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<v Speaker 4>directly involved with it, that she would delegate more to

479
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<v Speaker 4>people with more wherewithal to be better served in that position.

480
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<v Speaker 4>But then there's the other aspect about this, and the

481
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<v Speaker 4>one guy who's kind of becoming the X factor in

482
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<v Speaker 4>WWE is Nick Kahn, Like I know that Stephanie McMahon

483
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<v Speaker 4>has assumed the role of chairwoman and CEO, and is

484
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<v Speaker 4>it technically a higher position than Nick conn who he's

485
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<v Speaker 4>the president if I'm not mistaken, And I'm just wondering

486
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<v Speaker 4>here that since he joined WWE and replaced I believe

487
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<v Speaker 4>her name was Michelle Wilson and George Barrios, I think

488
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<v Speaker 4>for their names, he has kind of just been like

489
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<v Speaker 4>taking like a machete to the complete organizational structure here.

490
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<v Speaker 4>And I think that like in a weird way, like well,

491
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<v Speaker 4>I don't think it's more I'm just like thinking out

492
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<v Speaker 4>loud here, rather is like, is he kind of trying

493
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<v Speaker 4>to clean up WWE and fix it for the way

494
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<v Speaker 4>that maybe the shareholders and the border directors want to

495
00:26:27.799 --> 00:26:29.759
<v Speaker 4>take this company into the future. Do you think that

496
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<v Speaker 4>Nick Cohn is kind of a big X factor for

497
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<v Speaker 4>the company moving forward?

498
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<v Speaker 2>Oh, he's already been right, Like you said, he's already

499
00:26:36.839 --> 00:26:39.759
<v Speaker 2>been a guy going around with a machete, sledgehammer, whatever

500
00:26:39.799 --> 00:26:41.680
<v Speaker 2>blunt object do you want to use. I mean, the

501
00:26:41.720 --> 00:26:44.319
<v Speaker 2>guy has had a massive impact, especially over the last

502
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<v Speaker 2>couple of years of not just COVID. COVID didn't help,

503
00:26:47.799 --> 00:26:51.359
<v Speaker 2>but the firings, the releases, the shocking releases that have

504
00:26:51.440 --> 00:26:54.359
<v Speaker 2>taken place over the last two years. I mean, typically

505
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<v Speaker 2>it's the week after WrestleMania. I think it's like they

506
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<v Speaker 2>call it like Black Thursday, Black Wednesday, whatever it is

507
00:27:00.400 --> 00:27:04.079
<v Speaker 2>that week following WrestleMania, where there's typically layoffs. There were

508
00:27:04.519 --> 00:27:07.400
<v Speaker 2>mass amounts of layoffs the last couple of years and

509
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<v Speaker 2>throughout the year, not just one particular time, and not

510
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<v Speaker 2>just wrestlers either, like production, travel staff for obvious reasons.

511
00:27:14.400 --> 00:27:18.319
<v Speaker 2>You know. So the guys already had a massive impact

512
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<v Speaker 2>on WWE from a personnel perspective, and I'm sure the

513
00:27:21.799 --> 00:27:24.839
<v Speaker 2>organizational chart if you looked at it, with the few

514
00:27:24.920 --> 00:27:28.440
<v Speaker 2>hundred people they have working there, looks much different now

515
00:27:28.559 --> 00:27:30.160
<v Speaker 2>than it did a couple of years ago prior to

516
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<v Speaker 2>nickcn coming in. So he's already had a massive impact. Now.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what their plans are moving forward, Like

518
00:27:35.160 --> 00:27:39.079
<v Speaker 2>you said, maybe Stephanie McMahon decides, hey, this would be

519
00:27:39.079 --> 00:27:42.839
<v Speaker 2>really cool on the first woman chairwoman of WWE, you

520
00:27:42.839 --> 00:27:44.960
<v Speaker 2>know that kind of thing, and you know she may

521
00:27:45.079 --> 00:27:47.240
<v Speaker 2>use that for kind of like women's empowerment or whatever

522
00:27:47.240 --> 00:27:49.279
<v Speaker 2>the hell she wants to do. I don't know, but

523
00:27:49.359 --> 00:27:51.920
<v Speaker 2>if she doesn't, then perhaps she's just gonna get the

524
00:27:52.000 --> 00:27:54.920
<v Speaker 2>organization ready for a sale. Now I know that this

525
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<v Speaker 2>has been discussed for six to twelve months now oft

526
00:27:58.880 --> 00:28:01.960
<v Speaker 2>they're going to sell it to Disney. Well, while they didn't,

527
00:28:02.119 --> 00:28:04.720
<v Speaker 2>at least up until this point with Vince gone, maybe

528
00:28:04.759 --> 00:28:08.880
<v Speaker 2>he was the one roadblock that Disney could not get

529
00:28:08.960 --> 00:28:11.519
<v Speaker 2>to say yes, and they obviously need his blessing. Vince

530
00:28:11.559 --> 00:28:13.759
<v Speaker 2>out of the way. Stephanie really doesn't want to run

531
00:28:13.759 --> 00:28:16.640
<v Speaker 2>the place. She's more interested in doing her own business ventures.

532
00:28:16.759 --> 00:28:20.240
<v Speaker 2>Why not make a few billion, sell the company to Disney,

533
00:28:20.319 --> 00:28:22.960
<v Speaker 2>get it, or at least prepare it, sell it to Disney,

534
00:28:23.160 --> 00:28:24.920
<v Speaker 2>and then be on her merry way and it let

535
00:28:24.920 --> 00:28:27.519
<v Speaker 2>Disney run the organization. I mean, I'm not saying that's

536
00:28:27.519 --> 00:28:30.039
<v Speaker 2>gonna happen. I'm not saying that I've heard that's gonna happen.

537
00:28:30.079 --> 00:28:32.480
<v Speaker 2>But it's in terms of the information I have at

538
00:28:32.480 --> 00:28:36.480
<v Speaker 2>this point, doesn't seem out of the relevant impossibility.

539
00:28:37.559 --> 00:28:38.400
<v Speaker 3>No, not at all.

540
00:28:38.480 --> 00:28:41.839
<v Speaker 4>And you like that's the way that these things sent

541
00:28:42.319 --> 00:28:45.119
<v Speaker 4>seem to be trending, right, like it happened with the UFC.

542
00:28:45.599 --> 00:28:47.559
<v Speaker 4>I believe it was Dana White and were they the

543
00:28:47.680 --> 00:28:53.079
<v Speaker 4>Fertida brothers. I think that sold the UFC to a

544
00:28:53.119 --> 00:28:57.119
<v Speaker 4>big corporation and they kept Dana White on as the president.

545
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<v Speaker 4>And it just seems like that's the way that this

546
00:29:00.240 --> 00:29:02.839
<v Speaker 4>thing is trending here, and the only thing maybe stopping

547
00:29:02.880 --> 00:29:06.519
<v Speaker 4>it is Vince McMahon. And like, look, they've already sold

548
00:29:06.559 --> 00:29:10.519
<v Speaker 4>the ww network to Peacock ak NBC Universal, so it

549
00:29:10.559 --> 00:29:12.799
<v Speaker 4>would stand a reason that maybe they'll sell the entire

550
00:29:12.839 --> 00:29:17.279
<v Speaker 4>company to a company like Disney. And you know how

551
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<v Speaker 4>like because let's be honest here, like, do you think

552
00:29:20.440 --> 00:29:23.640
<v Speaker 4>that Stephanie McMahon definitely not Shane McMahon. He hasn't been

553
00:29:23.680 --> 00:29:26.160
<v Speaker 4>involved in any major way on the business side for

554
00:29:26.400 --> 00:29:30.240
<v Speaker 4>about twelve years now, if not longer. It doesn't seem

555
00:29:30.319 --> 00:29:33.279
<v Speaker 4>to me like Stephanie McMahon is chomping at the bit

556
00:29:33.400 --> 00:29:36.519
<v Speaker 4>to you know, be her father's successor and carry on

557
00:29:36.799 --> 00:29:40.359
<v Speaker 4>the McMahon legacy as you know wrestling promoters. Hell, her

558
00:29:40.400 --> 00:29:43.400
<v Speaker 4>father won't even say the word wrestling. They invented the

559
00:29:43.799 --> 00:29:47.359
<v Speaker 4>term sports entertainment out of thin air, and Stephanie McMahon

560
00:29:47.359 --> 00:29:50.119
<v Speaker 4>has really taken that ball and completely run with it,

561
00:29:50.599 --> 00:29:53.440
<v Speaker 4>So I would think that maybe that's where this is

562
00:29:53.480 --> 00:29:55.640
<v Speaker 4>going to trend. And Nick conn kind of seems a

563
00:29:55.680 --> 00:29:58.519
<v Speaker 4>guy who has kind of spearheaded that. You know, You've

564
00:29:58.559 --> 00:30:01.240
<v Speaker 4>also heard some rumors that maybe The Rock would buy

565
00:30:01.319 --> 00:30:05.039
<v Speaker 4>it because he has a long standing relationship with Nick

566
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<v Speaker 4>Con that I don't think anyone knew until the Rock

567
00:30:07.359 --> 00:30:11.400
<v Speaker 4>social media post. But I mean, I guess before we

568
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<v Speaker 4>move on to the Brock and Roman thing, the last

569
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<v Speaker 4>question I would kind of ask you is that do

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<v Speaker 4>you think that once Vince McMahon isn't in power anymore,

571
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<v Speaker 4>whether that be that he survives this and eventually dies

572
00:30:23.480 --> 00:30:26.279
<v Speaker 4>or he is forced out because of the scandal, do

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<v Speaker 4>you think the McMahons will move forward as massive parts

574
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<v Speaker 4>of WWE and by McMahons.

575
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<v Speaker 3>I guess you could also say Triple H as well.

576
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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to the WWE podcast. We'll be right back

577
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<v Speaker 1>after this short break. Welcome back to the WWE podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get back to more great wrestling audio.

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<v Speaker 2>I yeah, So do I think that WWE is gonna

580
00:31:04.960 --> 00:31:10.519
<v Speaker 2>move on with a McMahon charges? Was that your question? Like? Yeah, exactly, Yeah, Well,

581
00:31:10.680 --> 00:31:15.839
<v Speaker 2>I mean, again, assuming Disney doesn't purchase WWE, because at

582
00:31:15.839 --> 00:31:18.640
<v Speaker 2>that point they could make whatever decisions they want. From

583
00:31:18.799 --> 00:31:22.400
<v Speaker 2>a management perspective, I do believe again, like you said,

584
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<v Speaker 2>with Shane, Shane's a guy that I would love to

585
00:31:25.319 --> 00:31:28.720
<v Speaker 2>know the inner workings of the like the relationship with

586
00:31:28.759 --> 00:31:31.599
<v Speaker 2>Shane and Vince and and the backstage stuff that's going

587
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<v Speaker 2>on with Shane, because he seems to be in out

588
00:31:34.079 --> 00:31:36.559
<v Speaker 2>and out. Things seem good up now they're bad. He's

589
00:31:36.599 --> 00:31:38.880
<v Speaker 2>back to doing whatever, making shoes in China. I don't

590
00:31:38.920 --> 00:31:42.880
<v Speaker 2>know his whatever he's doing. And so the Shane thing,

591
00:31:43.000 --> 00:31:45.440
<v Speaker 2>like you said, that's out, Like Shane clearly isn't a

592
00:31:45.440 --> 00:31:48.039
<v Speaker 2>good fit or doesn't want to be a part of WWWE.

593
00:31:48.160 --> 00:31:52.000
<v Speaker 2>From that perspective, Stephanie is a wild card. Maybe she

594
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<v Speaker 2>is interested in doing this, and she does have a

595
00:31:54.599 --> 00:31:57.599
<v Speaker 2>little bit of the evil geniusness inside of her that

596
00:31:57.720 --> 00:32:02.119
<v Speaker 2>you know, her dad certainly instilled, and I think that

597
00:32:02.599 --> 00:32:05.160
<v Speaker 2>there's a possibility that maybe she actually does want to

598
00:32:05.200 --> 00:32:07.559
<v Speaker 2>and this is kind of just her evil plan being hatched,

599
00:32:07.799 --> 00:32:10.160
<v Speaker 2>where not that she set up her dad, but maybe

600
00:32:10.200 --> 00:32:13.440
<v Speaker 2>again distancing herself, setting herself up for that role so

601
00:32:13.480 --> 00:32:17.599
<v Speaker 2>that knowing she's in that next line of defense, that

602
00:32:17.720 --> 00:32:20.279
<v Speaker 2>next person in line of Vince Wertz's have to step

603
00:32:20.279 --> 00:32:23.960
<v Speaker 2>aside like he just did. Then she knew that if

604
00:32:24.000 --> 00:32:27.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm involved, well, I can't be involved with a scandal

605
00:32:27.039 --> 00:32:28.559
<v Speaker 2>going on. How did I not know? So let mean

606
00:32:28.640 --> 00:32:30.960
<v Speaker 2>distance myself and in two months they're gonna call me

607
00:32:30.960 --> 00:32:33.480
<v Speaker 2>to be introim CEO, and then they're gonna find that

608
00:32:33.559 --> 00:32:35.920
<v Speaker 2>Vince is guilty and I'm the permanent CEO. I mean, like,

609
00:32:35.960 --> 00:32:38.319
<v Speaker 2>it's possible she thought that far ahead. I wouldn't put

610
00:32:38.319 --> 00:32:40.359
<v Speaker 2>it past her. She's a smart woman. I mean, you

611
00:32:40.400 --> 00:32:42.720
<v Speaker 2>can't get to that level and do what she's done

612
00:32:43.319 --> 00:32:47.119
<v Speaker 2>if she wasn't. So there's that possibility. So long answer,

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<v Speaker 2>I think, yeah, I think that there will be a

614
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<v Speaker 2>McMahon in charge when the smoke settles from this this scandal.

615
00:32:53.960 --> 00:32:57.039
<v Speaker 2>Even if Vince's found guilty, he's thrown out, people go crazy.

616
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<v Speaker 2>The headlines below up Vince McMahon out of debt, to

617
00:32:59.200 --> 00:33:01.319
<v Speaker 2>be whatever, which will be a lot of fun to

618
00:33:01.680 --> 00:33:03.640
<v Speaker 2>talk about. But I still, at the end of the

619
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<v Speaker 2>day think the last name of the person running the

620
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<v Speaker 2>company will be McMahon.

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<v Speaker 4>Because you think that even if a company like Disney

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<v Speaker 4>or let's say NBC whatever would buy WWE, they would

623
00:33:16.039 --> 00:33:20.039
<v Speaker 4>keep a McMahon still in charge to oversee the operations.

624
00:33:19.359 --> 00:33:21.880
<v Speaker 2>If they were willing. If Stephanie here's the thing. If

625
00:33:21.880 --> 00:33:25.240
<v Speaker 2>Stephanie's not willing, though, things change, right Like, if if

626
00:33:25.279 --> 00:33:28.160
<v Speaker 2>Stephanie McMahon has no interest and she truly does just

627
00:33:28.279 --> 00:33:31.359
<v Speaker 2>want to do her own thing or you know, sell it,

628
00:33:31.519 --> 00:33:34.759
<v Speaker 2>let Disney make whoever they want to make, CEO, president,

629
00:33:35.000 --> 00:33:38.079
<v Speaker 2>you know, head of talent relations all that, then sure,

630
00:33:38.240 --> 00:33:41.839
<v Speaker 2>then things change. Stephanie McMahon, to me, though, is the

631
00:33:41.960 --> 00:33:45.640
<v Speaker 2>last member of the McMahon family that I think could

632
00:33:45.680 --> 00:33:48.279
<v Speaker 2>actually be the CEO. I don't think Shane has any

633
00:33:48.279 --> 00:33:50.480
<v Speaker 2>interest based on just the last twenty years of his

634
00:33:50.559 --> 00:33:53.680
<v Speaker 2>in and outs and the things we've heard. But if

635
00:33:53.720 --> 00:33:56.119
<v Speaker 2>Stephanie's not interested, then then all bets are off. I

636
00:33:56.119 --> 00:33:58.839
<v Speaker 2>think maybe Paul Avec triple h could be the guy

637
00:33:58.920 --> 00:34:01.559
<v Speaker 2>to actually take it over at or hell, maybe Nick

638
00:34:01.599 --> 00:34:04.920
<v Speaker 2>con I mean the he could I mean Nick con

639
00:34:05.400 --> 00:34:08.239
<v Speaker 2>or triple H. I don't know who else could possibly

640
00:34:08.280 --> 00:34:09.880
<v Speaker 2>step in if Stephanie's I'm interested.

641
00:34:11.079 --> 00:34:15.880
<v Speaker 4>The Seae McMahon thing to me has always been so weird. Obviously,

642
00:34:15.920 --> 00:34:17.920
<v Speaker 4>you can't judge a guy based off of his on

643
00:34:18.039 --> 00:34:21.079
<v Speaker 4>screen character. But like everyone who's listened to me for

644
00:34:21.119 --> 00:34:23.480
<v Speaker 4>a while, no now knows that I'm a big Sehae

645
00:34:23.559 --> 00:34:26.960
<v Speaker 4>McMahon fan, But I always felt that he resonated well

646
00:34:27.000 --> 00:34:29.079
<v Speaker 4>with the crowd. I would argue that he was probably,

647
00:34:29.119 --> 00:34:32.079
<v Speaker 4>of all the McMahon's, probably the best serve to play

648
00:34:32.119 --> 00:34:35.119
<v Speaker 4>the babyface role. I know Jim Cornett has said numerous

649
00:34:35.159 --> 00:34:38.559
<v Speaker 4>times that he's the best McMahon or the nicest McMahon.

650
00:34:39.000 --> 00:34:41.159
<v Speaker 3>It just really makes you wonder what the.

651
00:34:41.039 --> 00:34:44.039
<v Speaker 4>Hell went on behind the scenes with Shane, especially considering

652
00:34:44.079 --> 00:34:46.199
<v Speaker 4>the fact that he's the older of the two, I

653
00:34:46.239 --> 00:34:49.280
<v Speaker 4>think relatively substantially Between him and Stephane, I think he

654
00:34:49.320 --> 00:34:50.239
<v Speaker 4>has like at least.

655
00:34:50.039 --> 00:34:51.039
<v Speaker 3>Five years on her.

656
00:34:51.440 --> 00:34:53.639
<v Speaker 4>It just really begs the question, like, what the hell

657
00:34:53.719 --> 00:34:55.760
<v Speaker 4>went on with Shane for him to leave in two

658
00:34:55.840 --> 00:34:58.440
<v Speaker 4>thousand and nine. Then even when he came back in

659
00:34:58.480 --> 00:35:01.159
<v Speaker 4>twenty sixteen, it was a large usually only as an

660
00:35:01.159 --> 00:35:02.920
<v Speaker 4>on screen guy, and I.

661
00:35:02.880 --> 00:35:04.920
<v Speaker 3>Still think that he got over pretty well.

662
00:35:04.920 --> 00:35:07.679
<v Speaker 4>Like when he was the commissioner of SmackDown, he had

663
00:35:07.679 --> 00:35:12.599
<v Speaker 4>his programs with Kevin Owens and not Daniel Brown aj styles.

664
00:35:12.599 --> 00:35:13.199
<v Speaker 3>He had the matter.

665
00:35:13.519 --> 00:35:16.840
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, like I thought that he really resonated well with

666
00:35:16.920 --> 00:35:19.440
<v Speaker 4>the crowd, and obviously what happened at this year's Royal

667
00:35:19.519 --> 00:35:22.679
<v Speaker 4>Rumble when he was a producer really kind of killed

668
00:35:22.719 --> 00:35:26.679
<v Speaker 4>that entire thing in the cradle and he ultimately.

669
00:35:26.239 --> 00:35:27.440
<v Speaker 3>Got ousted by the company.

670
00:35:27.480 --> 00:35:29.840
<v Speaker 4>But I've just always wondered what the hell went on

671
00:35:29.920 --> 00:35:31.440
<v Speaker 4>with Shane mcmahn behind the scenes.

672
00:35:31.920 --> 00:35:35.440
<v Speaker 2>I mean, yeah, I hope at some point before before that,

673
00:35:35.880 --> 00:35:38.199
<v Speaker 2>you know, Shane heads to his grave, he doesn't take

674
00:35:38.239 --> 00:35:39.719
<v Speaker 2>it to his grave. I would love to know the

675
00:35:39.719 --> 00:35:41.920
<v Speaker 2>ins and out of that, I mean, because it's fascinating

676
00:35:41.960 --> 00:35:44.719
<v Speaker 2>the things we don't know about the relationship between you know,

677
00:35:44.760 --> 00:35:46.760
<v Speaker 2>the son and father and now the course that's a

678
00:35:46.880 --> 00:35:49.480
<v Speaker 2>very private, intimate relationship. Maybe we will never know, and

679
00:35:49.519 --> 00:35:51.679
<v Speaker 2>they both will take it to their graves and everyone

680
00:35:52.000 --> 00:35:53.719
<v Speaker 2>just say that's none of our business, and I guess

681
00:35:53.719 --> 00:35:56.400
<v Speaker 2>it isn't, but I think it is very interesting. It's

682
00:35:56.440 --> 00:36:00.280
<v Speaker 2>fascinating of the relationship between Vince and Shane, because your right,

683
00:36:00.480 --> 00:36:02.920
<v Speaker 2>Shane is a very popular, if not the most popular

684
00:36:02.960 --> 00:36:06.320
<v Speaker 2>from a crowd perspective. McMahon. Yeah, his punches and he

685
00:36:06.360 --> 00:36:08.679
<v Speaker 2>doesn't wrestle the best, and yeah, I've heard all the

686
00:36:08.719 --> 00:36:12.079
<v Speaker 2>criticisms and I understand that's some degree, But Shane McMahon,

687
00:36:12.239 --> 00:36:13.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, puts one hundred and ten percent in even

688
00:36:13.920 --> 00:36:16.440
<v Speaker 2>if he doesn't wrestle the best quote unquote. I think

689
00:36:16.480 --> 00:36:19.159
<v Speaker 2>that Shane could if he was interested, he could run

690
00:36:19.239 --> 00:36:22.760
<v Speaker 2>the company. But I don't know if whoever's in charge

691
00:36:22.800 --> 00:36:25.880
<v Speaker 2>at the very top would want him as the CEO. Again,

692
00:36:25.960 --> 00:36:27.679
<v Speaker 2>a bridge will cross when we get there. But let's

693
00:36:27.679 --> 00:36:34.159
<v Speaker 2>dive in to brock Lesner and his return. So, Anthony,

694
00:36:34.360 --> 00:36:37.800
<v Speaker 2>were you surprised and are you? Do you like this? Like?

695
00:36:38.199 --> 00:36:39.280
<v Speaker 2>What do you think about all this?

696
00:36:40.480 --> 00:36:45.639
<v Speaker 4>I'm torn because I truly do like brock Lesnar a lot.

697
00:36:46.719 --> 00:36:48.960
<v Speaker 4>I know a lot of people hate him because he's

698
00:36:48.960 --> 00:36:51.119
<v Speaker 4>a part time guy and he always just gets handed

699
00:36:51.199 --> 00:36:56.519
<v Speaker 4>these main event type of matches and storylines, and just

700
00:36:57.079 --> 00:36:59.360
<v Speaker 4>his entire career has been a main event served to

701
00:36:59.440 --> 00:37:02.639
<v Speaker 4>him on a silver platter because he is a massive draw.

702
00:37:02.760 --> 00:37:05.519
<v Speaker 4>But I've just always really liked brock Lesner. I like

703
00:37:05.599 --> 00:37:08.760
<v Speaker 4>that he brings like a legitimacy to WWE. I think

704
00:37:08.760 --> 00:37:12.000
<v Speaker 4>he's a very underrated worker. I'm not as big of

705
00:37:12.039 --> 00:37:16.280
<v Speaker 4>a fan of Cowboy Brock as I am as classic Brock.

706
00:37:16.320 --> 00:37:17.920
<v Speaker 3>I like classic Brock Way more.

707
00:37:17.960 --> 00:37:20.119
<v Speaker 4>But I respect the hell that he's been able to

708
00:37:20.199 --> 00:37:23.639
<v Speaker 4>provide another dimension and prove to people that if he

709
00:37:23.800 --> 00:37:27.360
<v Speaker 4>wants to be, he can be a standalone character without

710
00:37:27.400 --> 00:37:28.840
<v Speaker 4>Paul Hayman talking for him.

711
00:37:28.920 --> 00:37:30.599
<v Speaker 3>He's not the best, but he's passable.

712
00:37:30.880 --> 00:37:32.920
<v Speaker 4>I like that he's at least proved that he can

713
00:37:33.079 --> 00:37:35.559
<v Speaker 4>be a different type of guy than just bouncing up

714
00:37:35.599 --> 00:37:37.760
<v Speaker 4>and down and looking big and scary.

715
00:37:38.280 --> 00:37:39.360
<v Speaker 3>But I'm with you.

716
00:37:39.440 --> 00:37:43.880
<v Speaker 4>I prefer the classic Brock, so I always have time

717
00:37:43.920 --> 00:37:47.199
<v Speaker 4>for Brock Lesner, and I do think that including Roman

718
00:37:47.280 --> 00:37:49.599
<v Speaker 4>reigns aside from if the Rock comes back or when

719
00:37:49.679 --> 00:37:52.400
<v Speaker 4>Austin comes back, or even John Cena, but I think

720
00:37:52.400 --> 00:37:53.440
<v Speaker 4>maybe he's on the same.

721
00:37:53.320 --> 00:37:54.079
<v Speaker 3>Level as Brock.

722
00:37:54.519 --> 00:37:58.199
<v Speaker 4>Brock is like the biggest draw WWE has right now.

723
00:37:59.159 --> 00:38:02.079
<v Speaker 4>That really kind of and since the business that everybody knows.

724
00:38:02.159 --> 00:38:06.639
<v Speaker 4>Obviously his UFC background helps, But this just isn't it.

725
00:38:06.960 --> 00:38:10.360
<v Speaker 4>You know, my love for brock Lesner isn't enough for

726
00:38:10.440 --> 00:38:13.679
<v Speaker 4>me to get behind this number one. It's just because

727
00:38:13.679 --> 00:38:17.920
<v Speaker 4>we're doing this again again. We're doing Brock and Roman again,

728
00:38:18.119 --> 00:38:21.519
<v Speaker 4>and it doesn't make sense this time around because the

729
00:38:21.599 --> 00:38:25.039
<v Speaker 4>last two times that they competed one on one, Roman

730
00:38:25.119 --> 00:38:28.719
<v Speaker 4>won he beat him in Saudi Arabia last October, and

731
00:38:28.760 --> 00:38:31.559
<v Speaker 4>he beat him at WrestleMania, and I believe at WrestleMania

732
00:38:31.719 --> 00:38:32.159
<v Speaker 4>was clean.

733
00:38:32.320 --> 00:38:32.679
<v Speaker 3>Was it not?

734
00:38:33.079 --> 00:38:33.320
<v Speaker 2>Yep?

735
00:38:33.880 --> 00:38:36.119
<v Speaker 3>So what grounds.

736
00:38:35.599 --> 00:38:38.760
<v Speaker 4>Does brock Lesner have aside from the fact that he's

737
00:38:38.800 --> 00:38:40.800
<v Speaker 4>brock Lesner to come.

738
00:38:40.559 --> 00:38:42.199
<v Speaker 3>Back and jump the line?

739
00:38:42.840 --> 00:38:45.480
<v Speaker 4>And the other part about this is is that And again,

740
00:38:45.559 --> 00:38:48.639
<v Speaker 4>maybe I'm backtracking a bit, but I just didn't wasn't

741
00:38:48.719 --> 00:38:51.880
<v Speaker 4>ready for Brock yet, Like I thought Brock was gonna

742
00:38:51.880 --> 00:38:55.400
<v Speaker 4>come back like post SummerSlam, because it kind of felt

743
00:38:55.440 --> 00:38:57.519
<v Speaker 4>like we got like a Brock overload in a lot

744
00:38:57.519 --> 00:38:59.159
<v Speaker 4>of ways. And I just think we got a Brock

745
00:38:59.239 --> 00:39:03.280
<v Speaker 4>and Roman overload. And I just I don't know why

746
00:39:03.320 --> 00:39:06.400
<v Speaker 4>we're seeing this again. I think that they're going back

747
00:39:06.400 --> 00:39:09.000
<v Speaker 4>to the well with how they start programs with Roman

748
00:39:09.039 --> 00:39:12.480
<v Speaker 4>way too much like that he beats someone, he's about

749
00:39:12.480 --> 00:39:15.280
<v Speaker 4>to walk off and then someone's music hits and just

750
00:39:15.320 --> 00:39:17.880
<v Speaker 4>comes in gets in his face. You know, we saw

751
00:39:17.920 --> 00:39:21.039
<v Speaker 4>that with what was it when he beat bray Masterio

752
00:39:21.280 --> 00:39:23.719
<v Speaker 4>edged it that when he beat Edge, John Cena did that.

753
00:39:23.760 --> 00:39:25.960
<v Speaker 4>When he beat John Cena, Brock did that. Now when

754
00:39:25.960 --> 00:39:27.320
<v Speaker 4>he beat Riddle, brocked.

755
00:39:27.000 --> 00:39:27.599
<v Speaker 3>At it again.

756
00:39:27.800 --> 00:39:30.840
<v Speaker 4>Like, it's just like, do they have no other way

757
00:39:30.960 --> 00:39:34.800
<v Speaker 4>to start or build a program involving Roman reigns? And

758
00:39:35.159 --> 00:39:37.800
<v Speaker 4>obviously you have the whole thing with Roman Reigns that

759
00:39:38.519 --> 00:39:41.480
<v Speaker 4>you know. I know, absence makes the heart grow fonder.

760
00:39:41.559 --> 00:39:44.039
<v Speaker 4>I get that, But the fact that he's occupying both

761
00:39:44.079 --> 00:39:47.159
<v Speaker 4>world titles and he's only defended them on screen once

762
00:39:47.639 --> 00:39:52.599
<v Speaker 4>since wrestling, to me is inexcusable. Not like not even

763
00:39:52.679 --> 00:39:54.679
<v Speaker 4>out of pay per view, it was just on a SmackDown,

764
00:39:54.719 --> 00:39:57.800
<v Speaker 4>which we talked about last week, solidified that even though

765
00:39:57.800 --> 00:39:59.679
<v Speaker 4>we didn't we wouldn't think that Riddle would have a

766
00:39:59.679 --> 00:40:01.519
<v Speaker 4>shot even if it was at a pay per view,

767
00:40:01.920 --> 00:40:03.880
<v Speaker 4>the fact that it was on SmackDown, we knew for

768
00:40:03.920 --> 00:40:07.159
<v Speaker 4>a fact that it meant Riddle was not winning. And

769
00:40:07.280 --> 00:40:10.480
<v Speaker 4>I just think everything together has just made this very

770
00:40:10.599 --> 00:40:13.199
<v Speaker 4>underwhelming and it's just a WWE going back to the

771
00:40:13.199 --> 00:40:16.440
<v Speaker 4>well one too many times. I understood why they did

772
00:40:16.480 --> 00:40:19.599
<v Speaker 4>it last year in Saudi Arabia because they wanted to

773
00:40:19.760 --> 00:40:22.920
<v Speaker 4>get presented in a different way with Roman as the

774
00:40:22.960 --> 00:40:24.000
<v Speaker 4>heel and Brock.

775
00:40:23.760 --> 00:40:26.000
<v Speaker 3>As the baby face. Okay, I was on board.

776
00:40:26.440 --> 00:40:28.960
<v Speaker 4>I wasn't a huge fan of them doing it again

777
00:40:29.000 --> 00:40:31.159
<v Speaker 4>at wrestlemane. But I understood that they were trying to

778
00:40:31.159 --> 00:40:34.400
<v Speaker 4>make it feel like the biggest match of all time. Fine,

779
00:40:34.760 --> 00:40:37.880
<v Speaker 4>wasn't a fan. The match was terrible, but I understood it.

780
00:40:38.320 --> 00:40:40.159
<v Speaker 4>This I don't even understand anymore.

781
00:40:41.239 --> 00:40:44.360
<v Speaker 2>It really is puzzling. Like you said, I'm a fan

782
00:40:44.400 --> 00:40:47.239
<v Speaker 2>of Brock Lesner too. You know, how can you not be?

783
00:40:47.639 --> 00:40:50.000
<v Speaker 2>You know, regardless of the program he's in, he's a

784
00:40:50.039 --> 00:40:52.679
<v Speaker 2>once in a lifetime athlete, and he is not the

785
00:40:52.679 --> 00:40:54.920
<v Speaker 2>greatest on the mic, but that doesn't even matter. That's

786
00:40:54.920 --> 00:40:56.519
<v Speaker 2>how big of a deal he is and how much

787
00:40:56.519 --> 00:40:58.920
<v Speaker 2>he's accomplished, and the presence he has all that, and yeah,

788
00:40:58.960 --> 00:41:01.239
<v Speaker 2>what he can do in the ring too, And you know,

789
00:41:01.320 --> 00:41:04.000
<v Speaker 2>I I, Hey, the guy wants to make millions for

790
00:41:04.000 --> 00:41:05.960
<v Speaker 2>showing up part time. Are we gonna start crapping on

791
00:41:06.000 --> 00:41:07.719
<v Speaker 2>Roman Rangs for that? We're gonna start crapping on John

792
00:41:07.760 --> 00:41:09.679
<v Speaker 2>Cena for that or everybody else that's done that and

793
00:41:10.360 --> 00:41:12.719
<v Speaker 2>made that path the Rock. You're telling me we're gonna

794
00:41:12.719 --> 00:41:14.199
<v Speaker 2>boo the Rock if he comes back and say, oh,

795
00:41:14.280 --> 00:41:15.920
<v Speaker 2>you're part time, get out of here. Like the fans,

796
00:41:15.960 --> 00:41:18.159
<v Speaker 2>I understand get frustrated at a certain point, but the

797
00:41:18.199 --> 00:41:21.280
<v Speaker 2>problem with Roman is he is He's champion, and the

798
00:41:21.760 --> 00:41:24.639
<v Speaker 2>really iron ironic part of this whole thing is that

799
00:41:24.800 --> 00:41:27.920
<v Speaker 2>wwe merge these belts together, so Roman has a whole

800
00:41:27.960 --> 00:41:29.960
<v Speaker 2>new set of opponents to work with. He can work

801
00:41:30.000 --> 00:41:32.360
<v Speaker 2>with the entire roster and show up on raw more

802
00:41:32.719 --> 00:41:36.519
<v Speaker 2>and SmackDown. Yet he's done, actually less of both. Like

803
00:41:36.599 --> 00:41:39.519
<v Speaker 2>he's done. They've they've actually done the worst possible thing

804
00:41:39.519 --> 00:41:42.920
<v Speaker 2>you could do with this, uh this scenario and take

805
00:41:43.000 --> 00:41:46.360
<v Speaker 2>the guy that won the belts, take the belts and

806
00:41:46.440 --> 00:41:49.480
<v Speaker 2>take everything and just put it into hibernation and it

807
00:41:49.559 --> 00:41:52.559
<v Speaker 2>just goes away Like that's the Like, that's the worst

808
00:41:52.599 --> 00:41:55.159
<v Speaker 2>possible scenario. No, I understand he's working on states and

809
00:41:55.239 --> 00:41:57.159
<v Speaker 2>Roman's getting paid a lot of money. Great for him,

810
00:41:57.199 --> 00:41:59.400
<v Speaker 2>seriously happy for him. He's at the point in his

811
00:41:59.440 --> 00:42:01.800
<v Speaker 2>career where he can work less and make the same

812
00:42:02.159 --> 00:42:04.519
<v Speaker 2>good for him. That's what I would want to But

813
00:42:04.639 --> 00:42:08.800
<v Speaker 2>the problem is now you are you are sacrificing other

814
00:42:08.840 --> 00:42:11.760
<v Speaker 2>opportunities for other people who could be holding one of

815
00:42:11.800 --> 00:42:14.400
<v Speaker 2>those belts or both if they still want to keep

816
00:42:14.440 --> 00:42:17.960
<v Speaker 2>it unified by what for? What to hold it for?

817
00:42:18.159 --> 00:42:20.000
<v Speaker 2>For brock Lester and a challenge again that we know

818
00:42:20.039 --> 00:42:22.719
<v Speaker 2>he's going to lose for the fourteenth time. You know,

819
00:42:22.719 --> 00:42:25.000
<v Speaker 2>when they could have easily had a rematch with Riddle.

820
00:42:25.039 --> 00:42:27.480
<v Speaker 2>Now I understand the stipulation was, oh Riddle couldn't challenge

821
00:42:27.519 --> 00:42:30.760
<v Speaker 2>Rome again. There's a billion ways around that, you know.

822
00:42:30.840 --> 00:42:32.639
<v Speaker 2>I think that that would have been a much more

823
00:42:32.679 --> 00:42:35.840
<v Speaker 2>fun match with Riddle, only because they've they've gotten a

824
00:42:35.840 --> 00:42:39.760
<v Speaker 2>lot of momentum behind him. People organically like Riddle, and

825
00:42:39.800 --> 00:42:42.039
<v Speaker 2>they would have had I think a better quality match,

826
00:42:42.360 --> 00:42:44.280
<v Speaker 2>especially what we saw on smack Down. They have really

827
00:42:44.320 --> 00:42:47.719
<v Speaker 2>good match, a lot of really believable near falls, i e.

828
00:42:48.199 --> 00:42:54.000
<v Speaker 2>The RKO that was or the spear that was reversed

829
00:42:54.039 --> 00:42:56.039
<v Speaker 2>into an RKO, Like there was a moment I'm like,

830
00:42:56.079 --> 00:42:57.880
<v Speaker 2>oh crap, like he could actually win it here and

831
00:42:57.920 --> 00:43:00.599
<v Speaker 2>everyone else saught the same thing, you know, and Riddle

832
00:43:00.719 --> 00:43:02.960
<v Speaker 2>is amazing in the ring. They could have built that

833
00:43:03.039 --> 00:43:05.599
<v Speaker 2>into the main event of Money in the Bank at

834
00:43:05.599 --> 00:43:09.039
<v Speaker 2>the MGM in Las Vegas. But the problem is, again

835
00:43:09.119 --> 00:43:12.280
<v Speaker 2>I think this comes straight from Vince McMahon, is that

836
00:43:12.360 --> 00:43:15.559
<v Speaker 2>he wants the biggest main event possible and he thinks

837
00:43:15.639 --> 00:43:17.800
<v Speaker 2>that bringing Brock back is a bigger main event. Now

838
00:43:17.840 --> 00:43:20.000
<v Speaker 2>in one respect it is, but At the same time,

839
00:43:20.000 --> 00:43:22.719
<v Speaker 2>you've got this rising star and a star that's more

840
00:43:22.840 --> 00:43:25.519
<v Speaker 2>believable to beat Roman than a guy that just got

841
00:43:25.519 --> 00:43:28.480
<v Speaker 2>beat by Roman like eighteen times to come back that

842
00:43:28.559 --> 00:43:31.159
<v Speaker 2>you know isn't going to beat Brock or beat Roman.

843
00:43:31.320 --> 00:43:33.960
<v Speaker 2>He has zero chance. I don't think Brock has any

844
00:43:34.039 --> 00:43:37.239
<v Speaker 2>chance to beat Roman at Money in the Bank versus Riddle,

845
00:43:37.239 --> 00:43:38.840
<v Speaker 2>who you can make an argument, Hey, he's an up

846
00:43:38.840 --> 00:43:41.199
<v Speaker 2>becoming star. That's what you want to do with the

847
00:43:41.199 --> 00:43:43.880
<v Speaker 2>person that beats Roman is have a guy that's on

848
00:43:43.960 --> 00:43:46.920
<v Speaker 2>the rise, has a momentum behind him, he's young, check

849
00:43:47.039 --> 00:43:50.400
<v Speaker 2>check check. Riddle has a okay chance that you can

850
00:43:50.440 --> 00:43:54.800
<v Speaker 2>make an argument. Brock has zero chance of beating Roman,

851
00:43:55.119 --> 00:43:58.639
<v Speaker 2>And so you take that element of surprise away from it.

852
00:43:59.039 --> 00:44:02.280
<v Speaker 2>And I think he brought back Brock earlier than maybe

853
00:44:02.320 --> 00:44:06.440
<v Speaker 2>he wanted, especially if Randy Orton truly is out for

854
00:44:06.559 --> 00:44:08.920
<v Speaker 2>the next you know, I don't know how long, apparently

855
00:44:08.960 --> 00:44:10.440
<v Speaker 2>till the end of the year. I've heard a lot

856
00:44:10.480 --> 00:44:13.280
<v Speaker 2>of different things, but I don't know if this is

857
00:44:13.320 --> 00:44:15.039
<v Speaker 2>gonna be the end of it with Brock and Roman.

858
00:44:15.239 --> 00:44:17.639
<v Speaker 2>I mean, they got SummerSlam next. What are they gonna do?

859
00:44:17.719 --> 00:44:20.320
<v Speaker 2>Just have Brock Lezer go away and then I don't

860
00:44:20.320 --> 00:44:22.039
<v Speaker 2>think so. I think I think we could see like

861
00:44:22.079 --> 00:44:26.320
<v Speaker 2>part seven of this, of this matchup with Brock and

862
00:44:26.440 --> 00:44:30.360
<v Speaker 2>Roman at SummerSlam. Like I'm not saying it's gonna happen,

863
00:44:30.400 --> 00:44:32.719
<v Speaker 2>but Brock isn't back just for this kind of b

864
00:44:32.880 --> 00:44:35.360
<v Speaker 2>pay per view. I think he's back through Summer Slam,

865
00:44:35.400 --> 00:44:38.480
<v Speaker 2>and it could be Roman reigns for both both times.

866
00:44:39.199 --> 00:44:41.320
<v Speaker 4>Well, that's the thing I wanted to ask, like, is

867
00:44:41.360 --> 00:44:44.280
<v Speaker 4>it for money in the bank, because I thought I

868
00:44:44.320 --> 00:44:47.039
<v Speaker 4>saw something that said that he came back to challenge

869
00:44:47.119 --> 00:44:49.199
<v Speaker 4>Roman for SummerSlam.

870
00:44:49.559 --> 00:44:51.320
<v Speaker 3>H that they're just gonna skip over.

871
00:44:51.360 --> 00:44:53.239
<v Speaker 4>I like, don't quote me on that, but and I'm

872
00:44:53.239 --> 00:44:55.800
<v Speaker 4>pretty sure it's for a last man standing match. I

873
00:44:55.840 --> 00:45:00.280
<v Speaker 4>saw that, So like, I'm pretty sure, like you could

874
00:45:00.280 --> 00:45:03.079
<v Speaker 4>double check this for me, that they booked this for

875
00:45:03.280 --> 00:45:05.920
<v Speaker 4>Summer Slam, Oh my god, and they're just gonna leap

876
00:45:06.000 --> 00:45:08.960
<v Speaker 4>frog money in the bank. And assuming that's accurate and

877
00:45:09.000 --> 00:45:13.039
<v Speaker 4>I'm not completely messing this up, you're basically holding that

878
00:45:13.159 --> 00:45:16.960
<v Speaker 4>title hostage or both titles hostage for.

879
00:45:16.920 --> 00:45:17.960
<v Speaker 3>Two months, yep.

880
00:45:18.159 --> 00:45:21.840
<v Speaker 4>And we know that for two months, nobody's even going

881
00:45:21.920 --> 00:45:25.119
<v Speaker 4>to get involved in the world championship picture or the

882
00:45:25.199 --> 00:45:29.360
<v Speaker 4>undisputed championship picture. Forget having a match for it, forget

883
00:45:29.400 --> 00:45:33.400
<v Speaker 4>having you know, winning it. There's gonna be nobody even

884
00:45:33.519 --> 00:45:38.360
<v Speaker 4>stepping up to Roman for the entire summer because they've

885
00:45:38.440 --> 00:45:39.920
<v Speaker 4>already decided.

886
00:45:39.480 --> 00:45:41.840
<v Speaker 3>Two months in evance. It's Roman versus Brock.

887
00:45:42.239 --> 00:45:45.639
<v Speaker 4>For what reason, no other than Vince feels like that's

888
00:45:45.679 --> 00:45:49.239
<v Speaker 4>the biggest match that he could put together, and that's why, Like,

889
00:45:49.880 --> 00:45:53.480
<v Speaker 4>maybe I was overly negative with Roman from the onset

890
00:45:53.599 --> 00:45:56.800
<v Speaker 4>when he won the two championships at WrestleMania, but I

891
00:45:56.880 --> 00:45:59.000
<v Speaker 4>felt like, this is the way that it was going,

892
00:45:59.119 --> 00:46:03.440
<v Speaker 4>that these champions were just gonna go into hibernation. And look, again,

893
00:46:03.519 --> 00:46:05.719
<v Speaker 4>maybe I'm talking about both sides out of my mouth,

894
00:46:05.760 --> 00:46:08.679
<v Speaker 4>because when Brock was Universal Champion on Monday Night Raw

895
00:46:09.159 --> 00:46:12.559
<v Speaker 4>back in twenty seventeen or whatever it was, I didn't mind.

896
00:46:12.280 --> 00:46:13.159
<v Speaker 3>It as much.

897
00:46:13.480 --> 00:46:16.199
<v Speaker 4>But part of that was because you had guys like

898
00:46:16.280 --> 00:46:20.760
<v Speaker 4>aj Styles and Daniel Brian carrying the other world championship

899
00:46:20.840 --> 00:46:25.000
<v Speaker 4>over on SmackDown, so it still felt kind of legitimate

900
00:46:25.000 --> 00:46:28.480
<v Speaker 4>that there was at least one world championship.

901
00:46:27.880 --> 00:46:28.519
<v Speaker 3>In the mix.

902
00:46:29.000 --> 00:46:32.119
<v Speaker 4>And to be honest, I feel like Brock back then

903
00:46:32.800 --> 00:46:37.159
<v Speaker 4>competed more than Roman is now, and that's crazy to say,

904
00:46:37.239 --> 00:46:40.519
<v Speaker 4>Like you had Brock defending the Universal Championship at pay

905
00:46:40.519 --> 00:46:43.800
<v Speaker 4>per views like Great Balls of Fire and Battleground and

906
00:46:43.840 --> 00:46:47.199
<v Speaker 4>stuff like that, and this you don't even have Roman.

907
00:46:46.960 --> 00:46:48.679
<v Speaker 3>Competing at any pay per view.

908
00:46:49.159 --> 00:46:52.239
<v Speaker 4>And for me, it's just the fact that you've brought

909
00:46:52.320 --> 00:46:55.079
<v Speaker 4>back another part timer to go head to head with

910
00:46:55.159 --> 00:46:59.559
<v Speaker 4>him for like the fifteenth time. It's like it's absolutely crazy,

911
00:46:59.639 --> 00:47:01.440
<v Speaker 4>and it's it's like, how am I supposed to invest

912
00:47:01.480 --> 00:47:04.800
<v Speaker 4>in this anymore? Like unless it is like this incredible

913
00:47:04.920 --> 00:47:07.760
<v Speaker 4>long term booking that Seth is gonna win money in

914
00:47:07.800 --> 00:47:11.760
<v Speaker 4>the bank and then cash in on Roman and Brock again,

915
00:47:11.880 --> 00:47:14.760
<v Speaker 4>you know, akin to what happened seven years ago. But

916
00:47:14.880 --> 00:47:17.800
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I'm not giving WWE that much credit, especially

917
00:47:17.840 --> 00:47:19.760
<v Speaker 4>with the way that they've booked Seth in terms of

918
00:47:19.800 --> 00:47:21.920
<v Speaker 4>wins and losses over the last twelve months.

919
00:47:22.360 --> 00:47:23.000
<v Speaker 3>So I mean.

920
00:47:22.880 --> 00:47:26.039
<v Speaker 4>Anything short of that and assuming I don't know if

921
00:47:26.039 --> 00:47:28.519
<v Speaker 4>you're able to double check it, but like assuming that

922
00:47:28.599 --> 00:47:32.079
<v Speaker 4>this is just booked for SummerSlam and they're completely leapfrogging

923
00:47:32.119 --> 00:47:33.960
<v Speaker 4>money in the bank and everything in between.

924
00:47:34.599 --> 00:47:37.199
<v Speaker 3>You know, I just I'm not very high on this.

925
00:47:37.760 --> 00:47:40.679
<v Speaker 2>No, I'd just read a few articles that did say that.

926
00:47:40.719 --> 00:47:42.360
<v Speaker 2>I mean that that apparently I did to see the

927
00:47:42.400 --> 00:47:44.639
<v Speaker 2>last man standing. I just didn't see the venue. I

928
00:47:44.639 --> 00:47:47.920
<v Speaker 2>thought it was money in the bank. It does look

929
00:47:48.000 --> 00:47:50.199
<v Speaker 2>like that is slated for SummerSlam. And if that, if

930
00:47:50.239 --> 00:47:53.480
<v Speaker 2>that holds true, that is again, like you said, another

931
00:47:53.599 --> 00:47:56.840
<v Speaker 2>sixty days tacked onto his six hundred and fifty, so

932
00:47:56.880 --> 00:48:00.679
<v Speaker 2>he'll be at what like seven hundred and ten days

933
00:48:00.800 --> 00:48:04.199
<v Speaker 2>as champion and at that point you're three quarters of

934
00:48:04.199 --> 00:48:06.760
<v Speaker 2>the way there, roughly two the thousand days. And I

935
00:48:06.880 --> 00:48:09.840
<v Speaker 2>keep harping on that, but I can foresee them just

936
00:48:09.920 --> 00:48:12.480
<v Speaker 2>doing that, and can just because they're like, well, guys,

937
00:48:12.480 --> 00:48:14.480
<v Speaker 2>when are we gonna have this opportunity again to have

938
00:48:14.519 --> 00:48:18.599
<v Speaker 2>a thousand days? Like, to me, that's such narrow minded booking.

939
00:48:18.679 --> 00:48:22.280
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, but the only the only hope we have

940
00:48:22.480 --> 00:48:25.559
<v Speaker 2>is exactly what you said, the money in the bank winner,

941
00:48:25.719 --> 00:48:29.880
<v Speaker 2>whether it's Drew or Seth. Yeah, because I think those

942
00:48:29.920 --> 00:48:32.599
<v Speaker 2>are really the only two that have a legitimate argument

943
00:48:32.639 --> 00:48:35.320
<v Speaker 2>to win that match, which I probably think it'll actually

944
00:48:35.320 --> 00:48:38.639
<v Speaker 2>be Drew because then he'll challenge Roman for Clash at

945
00:48:38.639 --> 00:48:42.599
<v Speaker 2>the Castle, I'd imagine, unless he wins some other way

946
00:48:42.679 --> 00:48:45.840
<v Speaker 2>to challenge Roman, but you already know at least through

947
00:48:45.880 --> 00:48:48.920
<v Speaker 2>Clash at the Castle with Drew in September, Like Roman's

948
00:48:48.960 --> 00:48:51.400
<v Speaker 2>gonna hold a belt at least another three months to

949
00:48:51.440 --> 00:48:53.679
<v Speaker 2>get to Rome, or to get to bra sorry, to

950
00:48:53.760 --> 00:48:57.119
<v Speaker 2>get to Drew. There's there's there's like the same cast

951
00:48:57.119 --> 00:49:01.280
<v Speaker 2>of characters here. To get from Toro versus Drew at

952
00:49:01.280 --> 00:49:05.559
<v Speaker 2>Clash in the Castle, you gotta go another three months.

953
00:49:05.719 --> 00:49:08.480
<v Speaker 2>And it's just absurd that we already know the next

954
00:49:08.559 --> 00:49:12.039
<v Speaker 2>quarter of a year there is no chance of anyone

955
00:49:12.159 --> 00:49:14.800
<v Speaker 2>taking the belt from Roman. Like that's I think the

956
00:49:14.840 --> 00:49:16.639
<v Speaker 2>biggest problem I've had with this run. And I've been

957
00:49:16.679 --> 00:49:19.159
<v Speaker 2>a big proponent of this run. I have, and I've

958
00:49:19.159 --> 00:49:21.719
<v Speaker 2>sat here and defended him more than most, and you know,

959
00:49:21.760 --> 00:49:23.559
<v Speaker 2>for better worse, that is what it is. It's very

960
00:49:23.800 --> 00:49:27.119
<v Speaker 2>subjective here, But the biggest problem I've had over the

961
00:49:27.239 --> 00:49:30.880
<v Speaker 2>two years almost that he's been champion, and look out

962
00:49:30.880 --> 00:49:32.920
<v Speaker 2>for them harping on that at SummerSlam. By the way,

963
00:49:33.360 --> 00:49:37.960
<v Speaker 2>for two years he's been champion. The biggest complaint I've

964
00:49:37.960 --> 00:49:42.320
<v Speaker 2>had is that every nearly every opponent he's had, you've

965
00:49:42.440 --> 00:49:45.519
<v Speaker 2>never really believed that they could beat Roman. Like they

966
00:49:45.599 --> 00:49:48.800
<v Speaker 2>they've Kevin Owens even it's you know, in his four

967
00:49:48.840 --> 00:49:51.519
<v Speaker 2>matches or whatever he had, there was maybe one of

968
00:49:51.559 --> 00:49:53.800
<v Speaker 2>the matches You're like maybe, But at the end of

969
00:49:53.840 --> 00:49:56.519
<v Speaker 2>the day, you're you're never thinking, oh my god, they're

970
00:49:56.519 --> 00:49:58.480
<v Speaker 2>probably gonna be the one to beat Roman, and then

971
00:49:58.519 --> 00:50:00.639
<v Speaker 2>they don't. You're like, oh man, they had the chance.

972
00:50:01.239 --> 00:50:07.239
<v Speaker 2>Nobody there's been nobody, Cizarro, the Demon, Finn Baler, Kevin Owens,

973
00:50:08.760 --> 00:50:11.800
<v Speaker 2>obviously brock Lester. You know, anytime he challenges Roman has

974
00:50:11.960 --> 00:50:15.920
<v Speaker 2>no chance. You know, he faced John Cena. You knew

975
00:50:16.199 --> 00:50:19.039
<v Speaker 2>while there was some speculation he's a part time guy.

976
00:50:19.159 --> 00:50:22.039
<v Speaker 2>Doesn't make sense, legend doesn't need it, he doesn't make

977
00:50:22.199 --> 00:50:24.480
<v Speaker 2>He's not gonna get it, you know, the rock he

978
00:50:24.559 --> 00:50:26.480
<v Speaker 2>comes back. You know, it doesn't make sense. It's all

979
00:50:26.599 --> 00:50:31.800
<v Speaker 2>just nostalgic matches and just like video game matches that

980
00:50:32.119 --> 00:50:36.000
<v Speaker 2>people are are thinking themselves, yeah, there's no chance, like

981
00:50:36.079 --> 00:50:40.119
<v Speaker 2>this is it's cool that these matches are happening. But unfortunately, guys,

982
00:50:40.159 --> 00:50:43.199
<v Speaker 2>we know the outcome, like we we already know Romans

983
00:50:43.239 --> 00:50:45.480
<v Speaker 2>retaining because it doesn't make sense for this person to win.

984
00:50:45.960 --> 00:50:48.920
<v Speaker 2>That's the been the biggest complaint I've had with his

985
00:50:49.119 --> 00:50:53.199
<v Speaker 2>entire run. Is that ninety percent of his opponents you

986
00:50:53.320 --> 00:50:54.920
<v Speaker 2>just going, yeah, it's gonna be a fun match, but

987
00:50:54.960 --> 00:50:57.679
<v Speaker 2>there's no way they're winning that. That's that's a terrible

988
00:50:57.719 --> 00:50:59.039
<v Speaker 2>way to have a title run.

989
00:51:00.400 --> 00:51:03.159
<v Speaker 4>I think the only time that I really thought that

990
00:51:03.360 --> 00:51:06.719
<v Speaker 4>maybe he would lose was WrestleMania thirty seven in the

991
00:51:06.719 --> 00:51:11.119
<v Speaker 4>triple Threat match with Daniel Bryan Edge. That's and once

992
00:51:11.159 --> 00:51:13.320
<v Speaker 4>he beat them, and I still picked Roman to retain,

993
00:51:13.880 --> 00:51:15.639
<v Speaker 4>But that was the one time where I wasn't one

994
00:51:15.679 --> 00:51:19.239
<v Speaker 4>hundred percent confident. But you're right, like Ray Masterio, no

995
00:51:20.199 --> 00:51:23.679
<v Speaker 4>Edge the second time, and money in the bank, no Sina.

996
00:51:24.039 --> 00:51:27.400
<v Speaker 4>I mean somewhat, I said, like maybe they'll give Sena

997
00:51:27.480 --> 00:51:30.280
<v Speaker 4>his seventeenth world title to pass pass Flair and then

998
00:51:30.320 --> 00:51:32.599
<v Speaker 4>he'll drop it back to Roman. But I mean the

999
00:51:32.639 --> 00:51:35.760
<v Speaker 4>way that they booked him versus Sena was embarrassing. The

1000
00:51:35.800 --> 00:51:39.880
<v Speaker 4>Brock thing obviously, like him winning at WrestleMania was the

1001
00:51:39.920 --> 00:51:43.480
<v Speaker 4>most clear cut outcome we've ever seen, arguably at WrestleMania,

1002
00:51:43.920 --> 00:51:46.480
<v Speaker 4>and we knew that he was gonna beat Riddle on SmackDown,

1003
00:51:46.960 --> 00:51:49.480
<v Speaker 4>and like, I don't know if I'm missing anyone in there. Obviously,

1004
00:51:49.599 --> 00:51:52.440
<v Speaker 4>Jay us at the very beginning, we knew wasn't gonna

1005
00:51:52.440 --> 00:51:54.960
<v Speaker 4>have a hope in the hell of winning the championship.

1006
00:51:55.039 --> 00:51:56.599
<v Speaker 3>So, like, it is a shame.

1007
00:51:56.760 --> 00:51:59.440
<v Speaker 4>It sucks that, like even a guy like Seth Rawlins,

1008
00:51:59.639 --> 00:52:02.159
<v Speaker 4>like if that was a good match, I think the

1009
00:52:02.199 --> 00:52:04.599
<v Speaker 4>program had a lot more juice left in it aside

1010
00:52:04.599 --> 00:52:07.159
<v Speaker 4>from the fact that it was heel versus heel. But

1011
00:52:07.400 --> 00:52:10.239
<v Speaker 4>we knew that Rawlins wasn't going to win because they

1012
00:52:10.239 --> 00:52:13.119
<v Speaker 4>were in the midst of the Brock angle, and you

1013
00:52:13.320 --> 00:52:16.800
<v Speaker 4>had Seth as a raw guy. So even that we

1014
00:52:16.920 --> 00:52:19.280
<v Speaker 4>knew that Seth didn't have a hope and Halt winning

1015
00:52:19.320 --> 00:52:22.559
<v Speaker 4>the Universal Championship at the rumbles. So, I mean, it's

1016
00:52:22.719 --> 00:52:25.800
<v Speaker 4>very unfortunate that even though it has been an excellent

1017
00:52:25.920 --> 00:52:28.360
<v Speaker 4>run for the most part, I would say, all the

1018
00:52:28.360 --> 00:52:31.440
<v Speaker 4>way up until this year's WrestleMania, I had no complaints

1019
00:52:31.440 --> 00:52:34.519
<v Speaker 4>with it. I would say that it is still a

1020
00:52:34.559 --> 00:52:36.639
<v Speaker 4>shame that for the first eighteen months when it was

1021
00:52:36.800 --> 00:52:40.800
<v Speaker 4>red hot, you never presented a formidable opponent for him

1022
00:52:40.800 --> 00:52:41.599
<v Speaker 4>to go up against.

1023
00:52:42.639 --> 00:52:45.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's that. I mean again, I'm not going to

1024
00:52:45.039 --> 00:52:47.000
<v Speaker 2>pretend that I wasn't a fan of it. I was,

1025
00:52:46.800 --> 00:52:48.800
<v Speaker 2>I as a big fan of his run, and to

1026
00:52:48.800 --> 00:52:51.639
<v Speaker 2>some degree I still am. I can respect what's going on,

1027
00:52:52.119 --> 00:52:54.599
<v Speaker 2>but at this point, like fans are starting to lose

1028
00:52:54.639 --> 00:52:57.159
<v Speaker 2>their patience in a way that's not good. It's not

1029
00:52:57.320 --> 00:52:59.480
<v Speaker 2>good heat. It's like people don't want to watch anymore.

1030
00:52:59.639 --> 00:53:01.280
<v Speaker 2>And I will argue tooth and now that there is

1031
00:53:01.320 --> 00:53:03.480
<v Speaker 2>difference in that kind of heat where people just want

1032
00:53:03.480 --> 00:53:05.119
<v Speaker 2>to change the channel and they don't want to even

1033
00:53:05.159 --> 00:53:08.800
<v Speaker 2>invest anymore. Disengagement is not heel heat. I think that's

1034
00:53:08.840 --> 00:53:12.079
<v Speaker 2>the difference that people don't understand sometimes, and so I

1035
00:53:12.119 --> 00:53:14.840
<v Speaker 2>think that that people are at that point. People are

1036
00:53:14.840 --> 00:53:16.800
<v Speaker 2>at that point where they're just like disengaged and they're

1037
00:53:16.800 --> 00:53:18.599
<v Speaker 2>just like, oh, well, Roman's gonna win. It's gonna be

1038
00:53:18.599 --> 00:53:20.480
<v Speaker 2>a good match, you know. So I'll watch for just

1039
00:53:20.519 --> 00:53:23.440
<v Speaker 2>like the wrestling perspective, but I'm kind of disinvested from

1040
00:53:23.440 --> 00:53:27.119
<v Speaker 2>the bloodline. It's the same thing. Roman wins, retains, he

1041
00:53:27.239 --> 00:53:29.760
<v Speaker 2>stands there till it tells people to acknowledge him, and

1042
00:53:29.800 --> 00:53:31.760
<v Speaker 2>then a new opponent comes out just as he's holding

1043
00:53:31.840 --> 00:53:35.920
<v Speaker 2>up the belts. It's like very formulae. It's the same thing,

1044
00:53:35.960 --> 00:53:38.960
<v Speaker 2>and I totally get it. I'm not crapping on that

1045
00:53:39.039 --> 00:53:41.760
<v Speaker 2>and I'm starting to I'm starting to get on that

1046
00:53:41.840 --> 00:53:44.400
<v Speaker 2>bandwagon of like, okay, yeah, I'm kind of done with this.

1047
00:53:44.400 --> 00:53:47.039
<v Speaker 2>Can we just get the belts off Roman so we

1048
00:53:47.079 --> 00:53:49.480
<v Speaker 2>can get Roman in matches that you actually don't know

1049
00:53:49.519 --> 00:53:52.400
<v Speaker 2>if he's gonna win or not, Like, like, to me,

1050
00:53:53.000 --> 00:53:56.360
<v Speaker 2>you've made your point. Roman's a future Hall of Famer.

1051
00:53:56.559 --> 00:53:59.800
<v Speaker 2>He's had an epic run, a legendary run. We get

1052
00:53:59.880 --> 00:54:04.079
<v Speaker 2>all that great heel turn, great success, great execution. For

1053
00:54:04.119 --> 00:54:07.440
<v Speaker 2>the most part, point made. Can we move on? You

1054
00:54:07.519 --> 00:54:10.760
<v Speaker 2>are strangle holding two championships unified into one that you're

1055
00:54:10.800 --> 00:54:13.199
<v Speaker 2>not even maximizing or utilizing at all, by the way,

1056
00:54:13.559 --> 00:54:15.719
<v Speaker 2>and you're also holding mac talent that could be taking

1057
00:54:15.760 --> 00:54:19.000
<v Speaker 2>these spots for pay per views that are that oftentimes

1058
00:54:19.000 --> 00:54:21.440
<v Speaker 2>don't even have a world title match because Roman's not there.

1059
00:54:21.880 --> 00:54:25.239
<v Speaker 2>I mean, so there's there's to me, the negatives finally

1060
00:54:25.320 --> 00:54:28.280
<v Speaker 2>outweigh the positives of Roman holding those belts. I just

1061
00:54:28.480 --> 00:54:30.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm there now, and it.

1062
00:54:30.440 --> 00:54:33.360
<v Speaker 4>Sucks because they had something amazing, but it's just they

1063
00:54:33.400 --> 00:54:35.639
<v Speaker 4>had to exaggerate, they had to push it.

1064
00:54:36.039 --> 00:54:38.679
<v Speaker 3>And by day I mean vince that like you know.

1065
00:54:38.639 --> 00:54:40.519
<v Speaker 4>I could see it just like oh you see, like

1066
00:54:40.639 --> 00:54:41.800
<v Speaker 4>now they're behind Roman.

1067
00:54:41.880 --> 00:54:43.559
<v Speaker 3>Now I'm gonna give them what they want.

1068
00:54:43.679 --> 00:54:46.599
<v Speaker 4>And it's just like no, like why can't he just

1069
00:54:46.719 --> 00:54:51.039
<v Speaker 4>be a top wrestler, but like not above and beyond

1070
00:54:51.199 --> 00:54:55.440
<v Speaker 4>and head and shoulders above everyone else, like even Stone

1071
00:54:55.480 --> 00:54:58.559
<v Speaker 4>Cold Steve Austin back in the day wasn't pushed like this,

1072
00:54:58.840 --> 00:55:01.119
<v Speaker 4>like you know, like even Stone Cold when he was

1073
00:55:01.159 --> 00:55:03.159
<v Speaker 4>on top, at least you had that one guy in

1074
00:55:03.199 --> 00:55:06.159
<v Speaker 4>the Rock or to a bit lesser of extent, Triple

1075
00:55:06.360 --> 00:55:08.400
<v Speaker 4>H that like when they would go head to head

1076
00:55:08.440 --> 00:55:11.000
<v Speaker 4>with Austin, you would think, like, damn, maybe they could

1077
00:55:11.000 --> 00:55:13.400
<v Speaker 4>beat him, and sometimes they did. Triple H beat him

1078
00:55:13.400 --> 00:55:15.199
<v Speaker 4>in the Three Stages of Hell Match.

1079
00:55:15.320 --> 00:55:18.360
<v Speaker 2>The all Time, by the way, I love that match, Yeah.

1080
00:55:17.920 --> 00:55:20.800
<v Speaker 4>Exactly, like The Rock beat him at WrestleMania nineteen.

1081
00:55:20.840 --> 00:55:23.440
<v Speaker 3>Obviously a different context, but he still beat him.

1082
00:55:23.920 --> 00:55:27.320
<v Speaker 4>Like you when the Rock was the world champion and

1083
00:55:27.360 --> 00:55:30.199
<v Speaker 4>Austin was out two thousand, the Rock was the top guy,

1084
00:55:30.559 --> 00:55:33.360
<v Speaker 4>like Kurt Angle beat him at No Way Out in

1085
00:55:33.400 --> 00:55:36.039
<v Speaker 4>two thousand or no sorry it was No Mercy two thousand.

1086
00:55:36.599 --> 00:55:39.280
<v Speaker 4>Like these are things sometimes that have to happen, and

1087
00:55:39.360 --> 00:55:42.280
<v Speaker 4>I could guarantee you that guys like the Rock, guys

1088
00:55:42.360 --> 00:55:45.360
<v Speaker 4>like Austin, even a guy like John Cena, and you know,

1089
00:55:45.440 --> 00:55:47.760
<v Speaker 4>he was pushed as Super Sena for a long time,

1090
00:55:47.840 --> 00:55:51.840
<v Speaker 4>but never to this extent that like it pays sometimes

1091
00:55:51.880 --> 00:55:55.000
<v Speaker 4>to have them lose, and it pays sometimes.

1092
00:55:54.480 --> 00:55:56.360
<v Speaker 3>For them to have that redemption story.

1093
00:55:56.679 --> 00:55:58.840
<v Speaker 4>Like I think one of the things that really helped

1094
00:55:58.840 --> 00:56:00.760
<v Speaker 4>Sena and I don't know if you remember this, but

1095
00:56:00.880 --> 00:56:03.119
<v Speaker 4>like in the year twenty twelve when he lost to

1096
00:56:03.159 --> 00:56:06.559
<v Speaker 4>the Rock at WrestleMania twenty eight and then he was

1097
00:56:06.599 --> 00:56:09.400
<v Speaker 4>just a losing match after match after match after match,

1098
00:56:09.440 --> 00:56:12.719
<v Speaker 4>and twenty twelve, all Sena did was lose and he

1099
00:56:12.840 --> 00:56:16.239
<v Speaker 4>had a failed cash in money in the bank briefcase.

1100
00:56:16.599 --> 00:56:19.280
<v Speaker 4>And then in twenty thirteen he won the Rumble and

1101
00:56:19.280 --> 00:56:21.400
<v Speaker 4>he beat the Rock at the at Wrestling in twenty

1102
00:56:21.519 --> 00:56:23.719
<v Speaker 4>nine and even though it wasn't my favorite thing in

1103
00:56:23.719 --> 00:56:25.800
<v Speaker 4>the world, I think it got a lot more people

1104
00:56:25.840 --> 00:56:29.400
<v Speaker 4>behind John Cena again because they did have him face

1105
00:56:29.480 --> 00:56:33.079
<v Speaker 4>some form of adversity and could you imagine like Roman

1106
00:56:33.159 --> 00:56:35.599
<v Speaker 4>losing a match and coming out like a month later

1107
00:56:36.039 --> 00:56:39.000
<v Speaker 4>more vicious than ever because he did finally lose, like

1108
00:56:39.039 --> 00:56:42.119
<v Speaker 4>they would have a brand new like can of worms

1109
00:56:42.159 --> 00:56:44.679
<v Speaker 4>to open and work with and everyone would be so

1110
00:56:44.760 --> 00:56:47.280
<v Speaker 4>much more invested because we're just like, Okay, we had

1111
00:56:47.280 --> 00:56:50.119
<v Speaker 4>a vicious rome before, but now that he's lost, let's

1112
00:56:50.119 --> 00:56:52.519
<v Speaker 4>see what levels he'll take it to to get that

1113
00:56:52.559 --> 00:56:53.280
<v Speaker 4>title back.

1114
00:56:53.599 --> 00:56:54.960
<v Speaker 3>And they just won't even go there.

1115
00:56:55.400 --> 00:56:57.400
<v Speaker 2>There's there's such a story to be told on the

1116
00:56:57.440 --> 00:57:00.159
<v Speaker 2>other end of this, like we have had, They've squeazles

1117
00:57:00.239 --> 00:57:02.920
<v Speaker 2>every last drop of juice, at least we think they

1118
00:57:02.960 --> 00:57:06.480
<v Speaker 2>have out of this current product. For two years, they've

1119
00:57:06.480 --> 00:57:08.840
<v Speaker 2>been doing the same thing with Roman, and there's a

1120
00:57:09.159 --> 00:57:11.920
<v Speaker 2>there's such another side of this. There's a potentially better

1121
00:57:12.000 --> 00:57:14.760
<v Speaker 2>side of this, or more interesting side of this on

1122
00:57:14.800 --> 00:57:16.960
<v Speaker 2>the other side where Okay, he lost, Now what the

1123
00:57:17.000 --> 00:57:19.199
<v Speaker 2>hell is he gonna do when he comes out? What's

1124
00:57:19.199 --> 00:57:21.679
<v Speaker 2>he gonna Is he gonna like light the arena on fire? Like?

1125
00:57:21.800 --> 00:57:24.320
<v Speaker 2>What is he gonna do? Like the quiet anger? I

1126
00:57:24.320 --> 00:57:27.639
<v Speaker 2>think he could show on camera would be scary good

1127
00:57:27.719 --> 00:57:29.480
<v Speaker 2>and I would love to see it. They could even

1128
00:57:29.480 --> 00:57:31.559
<v Speaker 2>turn him babyface off of it. I mean, honestly, the

1129
00:57:31.599 --> 00:57:34.320
<v Speaker 2>fans are already cheering when he comes out. Some of

1130
00:57:34.360 --> 00:57:38.079
<v Speaker 2>them are He's got a great entrance music, you know. Again,

1131
00:57:38.559 --> 00:57:40.400
<v Speaker 2>I think that the fans have had time to hate

1132
00:57:40.480 --> 00:57:42.079
<v Speaker 2>him the ones that have wanted to boo him have

1133
00:57:42.119 --> 00:57:44.000
<v Speaker 2>had time to boo him. We've We've had a lot

1134
00:57:44.000 --> 00:57:47.000
<v Speaker 2>of a lot of fans, like myself, pent up anger

1135
00:57:47.039 --> 00:57:49.400
<v Speaker 2>for him that I think is now released and were

1136
00:57:49.400 --> 00:57:51.760
<v Speaker 2>ready to embrace him if they ever wanted to turn babyface,

1137
00:57:51.800 --> 00:57:53.400
<v Speaker 2>they could that we could get to the point where

1138
00:57:53.480 --> 00:57:56.360
<v Speaker 2>Vince wanted him to be six years ago winning the

1139
00:57:56.400 --> 00:57:59.559
<v Speaker 2>Rumble in fifteen in Philly, except actually be there now

1140
00:57:59.679 --> 00:58:02.519
<v Speaker 2>because they've gone through the time of hating him and

1141
00:58:02.559 --> 00:58:04.400
<v Speaker 2>now they can instantly turn him on a dime. I

1142
00:58:04.440 --> 00:58:07.880
<v Speaker 2>really believe that. So you're right, it's just time, and

1143
00:58:08.280 --> 00:58:10.599
<v Speaker 2>I think that fans are fed up, We're done with it,

1144
00:58:10.719 --> 00:58:13.039
<v Speaker 2>and you know, I just I don't want to go

1145
00:58:13.079 --> 00:58:15.320
<v Speaker 2>in circles. But any final thoughts on this.

1146
00:58:16.760 --> 00:58:20.199
<v Speaker 4>No, I just it's a shame that we know that

1147
00:58:20.239 --> 00:58:23.159
<v Speaker 4>the world titles aren't going to be moving or have

1148
00:58:23.239 --> 00:58:26.360
<v Speaker 4>a developing storyline for two months during the summer.

1149
00:58:26.840 --> 00:58:28.760
<v Speaker 3>It's just it's just sad and it's frustrating.

1150
00:58:29.039 --> 00:58:31.239
<v Speaker 2>It's right, I honestly don't even know the next time

1151
00:58:31.239 --> 00:58:33.719
<v Speaker 2>they are there in question, I mean WrestleMania, but if

1152
00:58:33.719 --> 00:58:35.840
<v Speaker 2>the Rocks there challenging for the belts got helpless. I

1153
00:58:35.840 --> 00:58:38.000
<v Speaker 2>didn't want to cross that bridge. I mean, we've got

1154
00:58:38.039 --> 00:58:39.840
<v Speaker 2>like eight months until we have to talk about that.

1155
00:58:40.400 --> 00:58:42.360
<v Speaker 2>I would just really hope if the Rock comes back,

1156
00:58:42.440 --> 00:58:44.000
<v Speaker 2>is not for the belts. You and I have discussed that,

1157
00:58:44.039 --> 00:58:46.000
<v Speaker 2>but I really don't even know the next time. I

1158
00:58:46.000 --> 00:58:48.960
<v Speaker 2>would look at a Roman match even again all the

1159
00:58:49.000 --> 00:58:51.360
<v Speaker 2>way to WrestleMania and go, hmm, well, it could be

1160
00:58:51.440 --> 00:58:54.159
<v Speaker 2>this person who beats him. Here There's literally no one

1161
00:58:54.199 --> 00:58:56.360
<v Speaker 2>I can think of at this time that could come

1162
00:58:56.360 --> 00:58:58.599
<v Speaker 2>back and challenge Roman outside of some people in XT.

1163
00:58:58.719 --> 00:59:01.119
<v Speaker 2>You have heard the names, but right now, in the

1164
00:59:01.119 --> 00:59:03.440
<v Speaker 2>current roster, I'll look at it. I go, yeah, there's nobody,

1165
00:59:03.519 --> 00:59:06.000
<v Speaker 2>So just put it on Seth for God's sakes, Like,

1166
00:59:06.119 --> 00:59:08.199
<v Speaker 2>just have Seth win the money in the bank, cash

1167
00:59:08.239 --> 00:59:10.400
<v Speaker 2>it in that night. Let's get it over with. Seth

1168
00:59:10.480 --> 00:59:13.800
<v Speaker 2>is now the unified champion, Like, let's move on. That's

1169
00:59:13.800 --> 00:59:17.960
<v Speaker 2>what I would do. But all right, well, Anthony, thank

1170
00:59:17.960 --> 00:59:19.679
<v Speaker 2>you for coming on tonight. Of course, you guys can

1171
00:59:19.800 --> 00:59:23.039
<v Speaker 2>check out Anthony on his retro show, and this past

1172
00:59:23.079 --> 00:59:25.800
<v Speaker 2>week was from the vault version, but this week, hopefully

1173
00:59:25.800 --> 00:59:29.440
<v Speaker 2>we'll get a fresh, a fresh, new episode. And did

1174
00:59:29.440 --> 00:59:31.760
<v Speaker 2>you have anything in mind, Anthony, or you're waiting for

1175
00:59:31.840 --> 00:59:34.280
<v Speaker 2>the universe to inspire you over the next few days.

1176
00:59:34.679 --> 00:59:36.519
<v Speaker 4>No, No, I actually have one in mind. It was

1177
00:59:36.519 --> 00:59:38.400
<v Speaker 4>supposed to be last week, but it's just with the

1178
00:59:38.400 --> 00:59:40.800
<v Speaker 4>whole moving stuff, I knew that I would have had

1179
00:59:40.840 --> 00:59:44.360
<v Speaker 4>to record a half assed version, so just figured give

1180
00:59:44.480 --> 00:59:47.360
<v Speaker 4>us a brand new episode this week and it will

1181
00:59:47.400 --> 00:59:50.880
<v Speaker 4>be the Rocks run from twenty eleven to twenty thirteen,

1182
00:59:51.159 --> 00:59:55.039
<v Speaker 4>as we will dive into his return and his semi

1183
00:59:55.239 --> 00:59:58.400
<v Speaker 4>full time run that when he came back in early

1184
00:59:58.440 --> 01:00:02.480
<v Speaker 4>twenty thirteen all the way up until WrestleMania in late March,

1185
01:00:02.519 --> 01:00:04.199
<v Speaker 4>were for just about two or three months or so.

1186
01:00:04.280 --> 01:00:06.280
<v Speaker 4>It felt like the Rock was kind of on a

1187
01:00:06.280 --> 01:00:09.360
<v Speaker 4>full time schedule. Maybe not from an in ring perspective,

1188
01:00:09.360 --> 01:00:11.239
<v Speaker 4>but he was appearing on Raw, he was appearing on

1189
01:00:11.280 --> 01:00:13.639
<v Speaker 4>SmackDown almost each and every week when he held the

1190
01:00:13.719 --> 01:00:17.400
<v Speaker 4>WWE Championship in early twenty thirteen, and I don't think

1191
01:00:17.559 --> 01:00:20.960
<v Speaker 4>people remember how often he came back during that period,

1192
01:00:21.039 --> 01:00:22.480
<v Speaker 4>So I'm excited to dive into that.

1193
01:00:22.960 --> 01:00:24.719
<v Speaker 2>I actually I'm glad you're doing that because I actually

1194
01:00:24.760 --> 01:00:27.519
<v Speaker 2>don't remember him there much, but maybe it is foggy memory.

1195
01:00:27.559 --> 01:00:29.960
<v Speaker 2>Because you look at these legacy stars and you're like, yeah,

1196
01:00:30.039 --> 01:00:31.960
<v Speaker 2>but they weren't there that much. But I think you're

1197
01:00:32.039 --> 01:00:34.079
<v Speaker 2>right that he was there way more than we realize,

1198
01:00:34.360 --> 01:00:36.360
<v Speaker 2>and you know that that's important. I think he wanted

1199
01:00:36.400 --> 01:00:38.599
<v Speaker 2>to put some respect on the belts and not just

1200
01:00:38.599 --> 01:00:41.920
<v Speaker 2>be this absentee champion. So good stuff. I'll be looking

1201
01:00:41.920 --> 01:00:44.400
<v Speaker 2>forward to it. And you have a social media want

1202
01:00:44.440 --> 01:00:44.920
<v Speaker 2>to share as well?

1203
01:00:45.599 --> 01:00:47.239
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, as always, you can get me at a to

1204
01:00:47.320 --> 01:00:48.599
<v Speaker 4>Marco twenty five on Twitter.

1205
01:00:49.000 --> 01:00:51.719
<v Speaker 2>Awesome. Well, looking forward to the episode and we will

1206
01:00:51.719 --> 01:00:52.599
<v Speaker 2>be talking next week.

1207
01:00:53.519 --> 01:00:55.119
<v Speaker 3>All right, man, take it easy, take care.

1208
01:01:00.440 --> 01:01:04.159
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1209
01:01:04.199 --> 01:01:08.079
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1210
01:01:08.079 --> 01:01:11.880
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