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Speaker 4: Bench, all right, Welcome back in ALP number three, OTV one,
O four five, ESPN bet Rouge. It is nine o'clock
on Tuesday, So you know what that means. You're gonna
catch you up with our guy Nick Underhill, New Orleans
Dot Football joins us.
Speaker 5: Now, Nick, how we doing? How were living doing?
Speaker 4: Fantastic? And uh, you can just go ahead and tell
us the starting quarterback is going to be. Since you've
been a training da last couple of days, go ahead, Well, yeah,
to pick one today.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think it's very very easily. Spencer Rattler
right now, he looks a lot better so far in
this camp. You know, it's early, like there's a lot
of days left. We'll see how it goes from here.
But he looks like a guy that's been in the
league for a year. And Shuck looks like a guy that's,
you know, trying to swim his way to shore a
little bit right now. I think sometimes you know, maybe
maybe things are still happening faster him. He's still kind
of processing. Yeah, I think we see the impact a
little bit of not doing any team girls at all.
They'reing OTAs in mini camp like it at times it
looks like it's team lining up for the very first
time with an offensive line on the field and all
that stuff, and you know, there's some operation theres, there's
false starts, there's you know, it's just kind of sloppy
right now overall. But Rattler's definitely, you know, looking better.
I think part of the distance between the two is
more that, like he hasn't really gotten any punches thrown
back at him yet. It's not like he's done perfect either,
But I think Rattler's comfortably leading right now.
Speaker 4: So like when you see Spencer out there, and we
were talking about this yesterday, Nick, like, does he make
plays that make you kind of think, oh, yeah, At
one point we talked about him as a sure fire
first round pick, Like, are those the kind of plays
that you're talking about? Like, do you see those type
of throws from him here in year number two?
Speaker 3: There's some of that, I mean yeah. I mean even
last year when he was starting some of those games,
it was like, oh, yeah, this is the guy that
threw for like four hundred and maybe three yards in
a game one time in college. Like you know, like
you see that for sure. But then there's there's the
things where like he just miss reads like the depth
on a throw into the in zone and gets like
picked off by a thrown a short twice and you know,
three days, and you know, there's just some throws that
get missed. But there's definitely the talent there. I mean,
like he has elite arm talent. I think, like, you know,
comparatively speaking to like all NFL quarterbacks, I think he's
up there in that that upper tier somewhere, if not
the top tier, second pier, Like he has really really
good arm talent, and you know, I think it's just
sometimes the processing and stuff isn't quite all the way there,
and I think we still see that. I feel like
it's kind of the same guy where it's where it's
you know, one day you're like, oh my god, like
he looks unbelievable, he's ten for ten, and then the
next day he comes back and he can't pick up
the momentum and that's that's kind of what it was
last year, first half, second half of games, and you
know it's kind of he's seen stuff great and then
all of a sudden, like something just happens in it
and it doesn't keep going if he can build some
momentum like anytime though, like the first half of the
first game he ever played, like, I was like, oh
my god, they found their quarterback, and then you know,
it falls apart. And then he goes in the second
half of the Washington game after Hater and almost brings
him back, and that get like it's just like if
he could manage to put it all together, but like
it just hasn't been able to happen yet. But I mean,
I don't think like just in a pure talent standpoint,
like I don't know that it's like lacking. It's just
kind of like the cohesion of all that and like
the consistency, you know, isn't quite there. But you know,
there's a reality where he becomes a good player. I
don't know if we're we're knocking on that door yet.
I don't know if the other thirty one on teams
are looking at the things and saying like, oh man,
I wish this guy was my starter. But you know
there's moments there for sure, Nick, I.
Speaker 6: Was gonna follow up the football question here. I got
to ask, though, are you on a landline right now?
Do you just hit a number with your cheek?
Speaker 3: I did not know.
Speaker 7: So we heard.
Speaker 4: We heard, like you know back in the day, like
when you hit a button while you're on the phone.
We heard that, and I was hoping so badly that
you were on a landline.
Speaker 7: Oh man, I don't think.
Speaker 3: I don't think I've had a landline two thousand and eight, Like.
Speaker 5: That was going to be the unique part of it.
Speaker 7: I know, the tone of the beep, I think it
was five again.
Speaker 3: It's crazy you say that, because like there really was
a time where you could like hear the difference in
the number.
Speaker 7: No doubt, there's no doubt.
Speaker 6: If we were first sure you said that, we all
kind of like looked around when that when we heard
the noise.
Speaker 7: Okay, So I wish.
Speaker 3: I wish I could be that big of a hurdle
where I was like, yeah, I take my this.
Speaker 7: Is I'm on line three right now. It's good.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's so funny you say that like that there's
a clear difference now that training camp started, because like
the entire off season OTA's mini camp, it's like, well,
these guys are both doing good things, they both look
good their neck and neck like Spencer makes a play,
Shot makes a play, blah blah blah.
Speaker 7: But it's the.
Speaker 6: Difference between off season practices, which is like you know,
glorified seven on seven's and just kind of hanging out
with your buddies playing catch, right, and then you get
into training camp and it's like the pressures on, we
got the pads on, everything is hot. They're making everything hard,
and that's especially the first two weeks of training camp.
Like it is meant, it is designed to make life
hard on everybody. Like practices right now harder than a
game will ever be, and especially from a quarterbacks perspective.
So like when you say you can tell that there's
a rookie, you can tell there's a guy that's been
there for a year, it's because coaches are making it.
Speaker 7: Hard on these guys.
Speaker 6: They're making it hard on the on the reads that
they're making, they're getting installs and defensive thone that every
single day. But have you seen those moments we just
asked about the moments from from Rattler. Have you seen
the moments from Chuck that it's like, okay, man, he's struggling,
like overall, maybe not struggles the word, but he's not
looking as good overall. But like, man, there's some flashes
where I can see this guy. Has I get what
they saw and drafted him in the second round.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, no doubt. I mean there's definitely some throws
like he hit one the Juwan Josh like a really
nice read over the throws with kind of anticipation, kind
of like you know before he's coming out of the break,
like ball just delivers right the perfect like he he's
hit a couple of them. Throws at that are just
like man, this is this Like this is special, Like
that's that's a really good moment. It's just he looks
like a guy on the fifth day camp. And I think,
you know, when we're out here every day looking at
it day by day by day, like you kind of
analyze every day like it's the super Bowl, because like
you've been waiting for six months to see these guys
and you're breaking down every single little thing. And you know,
last year, I remember, like it was probably practice nine,
practice ten, like where we left the field and it
was kind of like is Spencer Ratler good like cause
you aren't really seeing it, like and then something just
kind of clicked for him and it was like, wait
a minute, Like this guy can act like he's he's good,
but up until then it was kind of like, you know,
j Caner is better than him. They got this sits around,
pick out, here's a couple of throws here and there,
but you know, no big deal, nothing really we're talking about.
And then it changes. So by no means am I
ready to close the book on him. I think there's
probably gonna come a moment where all of a sudden
something starts to click in the place and it starts
to slow down, and it starts to slow down a
little bit more. I think the one thing that like
maybe worries me a little bit more than anything else
is that sometimes it's seven on sevens, like he he
just has a pensiont for like holding the ball and
it's not coming out, and it's like damn, like this
should probably be happening at least on rhythm every single time,
and it's kind of not. So I just think there's
a lot of like processing going on. I think you
can kind of see him thinking, like you know, and
I think in any field, like what we do, like
when you're new to it, you watch somebody that's nuance TV,
Like you can see him thinking about their words next
to the guy that's been doing it for a year
that he's just talking. And like, I think that's kind
of what it looks like out you're watching them right now,
is like you just see a lot of thinking and
another guy's just kind of playing. And I think at
some point it's going to turn for him.
Speaker 7: Let's talk about the like the coaching style.
Speaker 6: So we got a new coach of staff, but along
with the quarterbacks, let's stop talking about their play. Let's
talk about the coaches like coaching style, this new staff,
how Tolzane Nussmyer, Kellen Moore, how they all are communicating
with the quarterbacks? Are they are they all talking to them?
As Kellen kind of hands on with the coaching aspect
in between plays, in between periods?
Speaker 7: Are they are they? Are they yellers? Are they nice? Like?
Speaker 6: Like what kind of like feel are you getting from
this new coaching staff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's like culture shock being out here, honestly,
because I mean for about the last twenty years, even
though actually there was a new offensive staff, it was
still coming in under the same DNA, And I mean
just everything's just weird right now. Like it was almost
like there was a sarcadian rhythm to these practices, like
where it was like this is gonna happen now, they're
going to do red zone on this day, They're gonna
do this, and it's it's completely different, you know, as
far as coaching style, Yeah, Kellen's around the offense quite
a bit. Not a lot of yelling, you know. I
don't even know that I've heard a voice raised any
anywhere yet. But you see the corrections happening immediately in
real time. Somebody screws up the coming off the field,
like there's a consequence for having, you know, a false start,
lining up wrong, whatever it is. And I like seeing that.
And it's kind of wild to say this, but like
the last three years, we didn't see stuff like that happening.
We didn't see the laps happening after somebody jumped off sides.
I don't even know that we saw corrections happening when
there was like a false start on offense. We heard
players talking about how they didn't correct those things after
the fact and that was a frustrating thing for them.
So like even seeing something like that, just basic, rudimentary,
fundamental responsibility consequence, all that is great to see. On
a more macro level, the schedule is kind of blowing
my mind a little bit. Like they don't practice five
days in a row, like they go two day off,
two day off, two day off, or like two special
teams walk through two that's way different. They practiced the
last two days. Yesterday's the special teams walk through slash install,
so they're gonna be on the field for about forty
five minutes today only the guys that are on special teams,
and then back on it tomorrow. We got the day
five of camp and just saw the first injury happen.
So at least on that level, it's working. I don't know,
you know, I guess we'll see overall with the balances
on maybe you know, some last days of work versus
you know, going full four five days in a row.
I think it's one of those things where if they
win ten games, it's brilliant, and if they win five,
everyone's like, man, they probably should have practiced a little
bit more. It's you know, but I think not having
guys popping hamstrings is probably overall a good thing. So
that that's been way, way different. But I mean, yeah,
I mean everything, everything just feels completely different. Everything's incredibly
thought out and planned, and you know, it just kind
of maybe feels a little bit like a younger, newer
way of thinking, whereas you know, everything was kind of
eighties parcels this around here for a while and there's
nothing wrong without it. It works, but it's just a
completely different way of looking at things. I think everything's
very data driven, study, you know, analyzed, thought out, planned,
you know, just even thinking about you know, little stuff
like we're gonna do red zone on day two because
we went at full field the day before, because we've
studied that if you exert your muscles this much and
you're running straight line like these are when injuries occur.
So we're just gonna cut down the field so nobody
can run forty yards at a time Like That's that's
kind of, you know, it's next level like thinking. If
they're thinking about everything like that, at least gives you
a little bit of hope that they're going to figure
this thing out. I don't have high hopes for you know,
the wind total in year one, but I do have
high helps for the process and how they're doing things
right now because.
Speaker 5: You know where they got.
Speaker 4: Nick Underhill talking New Orleans Saints here on otb uh Nick.
Obviously you've heard about the ESPN article that the Saints
got the thirty second ranked roster in the NFL.
Speaker 5: We all know there's thirty two teams. They were dead last.
Speaker 4: When you're watching that team and you've watched the Saints
for a couple of years, Like, do you think that
as factual they have the worst roster in the NFL?
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not seeing the other thirty one, so like,
I don't know if they're worse than the Browns or
the Titans or whatever. I know they're definitely they definitely
look worse than they did, you know, last year. You know,
you get into a training camp and Derek Carr's not
facing a past rush. He looks amazing, like he's always
looked great when things are perfect, because you know, things
get messy, he doesn't look as good. But you know, definitely, definitely,
look if I was if I was somebody sitting up
in Bristol, Connecticut, and I was looking at all thirty
two teams and there's one team that does not have
a single quarterback win on their roster. Well, I guess
they got a few, but he's a tight end now.
But if you have a guy that's never never won
a game, I don't know how you rank him above
anybody else. Like, is Spencer Ratler slash Tyler shuck better
than what the Browns have? A quarterback could be better
than you know, Anthony Richardson, could it be?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Sure, But like I get it from that point, I
don't know if they're gonna be the worst team in
the league, But I don't know that. You know, I'm
looking at them to contend in the NFC South either,
So you know, I don't know. I think right now
where it sits like, it's probably not looking extremely promising
for a twenty five run. I think there's a couple
of bright spots. There's a couple of things that I
feel better about right now. You know, I don't think
Tarvor Penning is going to be a disaster. Kelvin Banks
has been impressive. I think Chase Young looks better and
just sounds and feels more confident. You know, Fuaga has
been a little up and down. I think you see
that transition happening back, but he's looks okay. There's a
few things that I think that you feel positive about.
Shaheed has looked amazing out here. So I think this
season's more about funding guys that you're I think Bully's
look pretty good too. I think this season is really
more about funding guys you're building around. And if you
feel positive about some pieces going into the future, and
you happen to be drafting first or second, that'd be amazing. Now,
you could be drafted first or second and feel terrible
about your team and that would not.
Speaker 7: Be as good.
Speaker 3: But like, look at the Patriots, like they probably had
you know, they absolutely have one of the worst teams
in the league last year, but I think their optimism
level is incredibly high right now. And if you can
leave that season feel in that way about this team,
Like I don't know who cares, but you know, I
really think this season's about finding the signs of hope,
you know, pieces to build around, building blacks. If your
offensive line has that like real identity and you're picking
second or third, like I would I would actually like that.
Speaker 6: Outcome for the same all right, Nick, So let's get
like you started getting a little bit more positive there
at the end. But you know, like the real Wolf
of Wall Street, he has like the saying like, sell
me this pencil. I want Nick Underhill to sell me
the Saints right now in twenty five.
Speaker 7: Paint something positive, all right.
Speaker 3: I mean you know, I can't tell you just the
write a sentence, but you know, like, do you have
anybody spending in front of you right now?
Speaker 7: Yep?
Speaker 3: No, dude, I mean you have an up like like
you know, I think I think they can pluck like
tell tell uh tell sharp to attacks. You don't got
no one to jump in front of you got a
fullback back there, but he's not in his prime anymore,
so he's not gonna pick up the books. But you know,
I think they have a I think they have a
good line and and I think if you have that
and you can build around that, I think the future
is okay. Maybe you have the quarterback. Maybe you don't.
Your running back's about to be thirty, Like that's not
long term. But I think if you have that line,
I think you have something. And I think banks is
gonna be good. We know fulagas at least like a
good starter. This seeling might be higher on him. Punting
looks tinting, looks like an absolute like the very first
time they did one on ones last year, Like I
sitting there, I'm like, they cannot play this guy. And
obviously they got in the games and he looked okay,
and they had a plan for him him doing like
one on ones and guard. He won some reps like
he looked okay. I didn't walk away from it feeling
bad about him. We've seen him get out in space
and do great stuff in the in the run game
is padless, but like just seeing him down the fields
like a force, like I think he could be an
elite run blocker. So if your line is good, I'm
okay with anything else being terrible, because I think you
have an identity and you have high investment piece pieces
yielding a real return and you can build around that.
And if you've got to go find another quarterback, well,
he's starting out with good protection and you're gonna be
able to accentuate his positives and put him in a
position to succeed. So you know, I feel confident about
that line right now. I mean we've only seen one
padded practice. I'm probably jumping the gun a little bit,
but I mean, man, did you see Kelvin Banks just
pancake Chris Rump? Yes, Like the clip that was out there,
like that was crazy and he looks good. So I
I feel good about that. I think there's a lot
of questions everywhere else, but I think there's there's real
building blocks on that offensive line.
Speaker 4: All right, last one, Nick before we let you go,
because I agree I'm intrigued by the offensive line. Like
what about some of the other players that we've been
waiting to see, Like what kind of step they can take?
You're Kendre Miller's, You're Brian Brazie, your kool A mckinsrey.
Like of that group, Isaiah Foski maybe even right. I
mean you couldn't find him, as Dev would say, with
a search warrant, throughout his career so far.
Speaker 5: But like, what have you seen from those players?
Speaker 4: Like can you count on some of those draft choices
that you've had because you're drafting the first, second, third round,
you're expected to be a starter.
Speaker 5: What have you seen from that group?
Speaker 3: I feel like we've seen some good plays from from
Kloyd hasn't been challenged a ton, but he's shown up
a few times. He's flashed. I like some of the
stuff he does, just as far as like attitude wise too,
Like I think he's bringing some of the the energy
back to the field that I think they need that
big time on dec Like when are running back, you know,
they'll get tagged down and they'll try to continue running
to the bend zone. Like Cooley's the guy that chases
them down and punches them ball out, And I think
they need some of that energy on their defense defense,
and and he's bringing it. Brazi's looked okay, Like I
think he's I want to believe we've seen some steps
forward in the run game. I've seen him stop a
couple of runs a few times. They have been against Kenning,
And you know, I don't know what the calculus there
is of of is it braz getting better, is it
Kenning still figuring things out? Is it a little bit
of both? So what we'll kind of see how that
comes back. I think he's the guy that that is
really interesting though, because like if he does take the
next step there, like he he could potentially become another
one of those like huge building blocks, and he probably
doesn't get talked enough. Like seven and a half stack, sure,
defensive interior player is a crazy number. Like if the
run game just gets to like okay, I think you
have a guy that that you can build around it
at that position. And I like how they're they're using them,
you know, as a as a three four end like
kind of getting him in some of those like more
favorable matchups where he can use some of his strength.
Like I think it shows up a little bit. You
know the other guy that we haven't mentioned at all,
and you know he's not a young draft pick guy,
but but Godshaw is just that, Like he is incredibly
incredibly strong, Like he just engulfs people and just eats
him up on that on that line, and I think
that's going to allow your linebackers to flow and make place.
Danny Stutsman has been a beneficiary of some of that,
but like even independently, the way he sees the field
and like reads and reacts and attacks and then he's
looked good in space too. He had to pick u
in one of the practices. He's gotten down the field
and covers a few times. I'm like really encouraged about him.
I don't know how he gets on the field right away,
but I like he's quickly like starting to make a
case for like you kind of got to find a
way to play him a little bit. So he could
be a building black coming behind the Mario too, So
there's some there's some glimmers of hope here. I think
Alante has looked really good in the scheme too. But
you know, he's in the contract here, and if I
were in i'd probably bet on myself play the season
out and try to see what the market looks like.
So I don't know like how that doctors in long term,
but I think it's agreeing with him quite a bit,
like they're getting him in that dynamic role out of
the spot blitzen a lot. Like he looks good. He's
flashing every day, all right.
Speaker 2: There.
Speaker 4: He is our guy, Nick Underhill, New Orleans Dot Football.
Speaker 5: Nick.
Speaker 4: I will be in Metorie tomorrow. Hopefully I can run
into you say hello. Looking forward to that, and we
always appreciate the time, sir.
Speaker 3: Yeah, bring a sweat towel, man, It's it's brutal out here.
Speaker 5: Oh love to hear that. Thanks for that. I appreciate
that makes sense.
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh man, Nick is the best truly, I mean
their every day boots in the ground, great reporting as always,
and yeah, I'm gonna take some of that by high.
I know I need multiple actually because I have, like
I usually keep like five my back one. Thank you
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Speaker 7: Play your cards right, might get another one.
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Speaker 2: It's actually liquid. I said that too. I was like,
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Speaker 8: I ran into a guy his name as MC.
Speaker 4: I said how he said, Hi, all right, welcome back
ging OTV one of four five ESPN baton rouge any
thoughts on anything that Nick Underhill said. It did feel
like it was pretty adamant to me that Spencer Rattler
is fully in the lead in the quarterback competition. I
know a lot of people are like, well, you drafted
Tyler Shuck in the second round. You get him guaranteed money,
He's going to be the guy they love Spencer Rattler.
Like like that's why, Like we weren't sure if they
were going to draft a quarterback. And again, like when
you draft a second round player, yeah, for sure you
want him to be a starter. But if the fifth
round pick is holding him off, and the fifth round
pick who once in his career was talked about to
be maybe a first round pick, maybe the first quarterback
off the board, Like you just want one of the
guys to work out, Like I would not get hung
up on the fact that the second round pick's not playing.
I think you just need one of the guys to
go win the job. And because he played so well
is why he won the job, not because he's the
you know, the best of the bad options.
Speaker 6: I mean, I think, now what five days in the camp,
Like the first week at camp is hard. It's hard
to look good, it's hard to execute. It's hard to
like like the fine motor skill stuff, so passing, catch
and kicking all that stuff, it's hard to execute that
on the first week of practice.
Speaker 7: It just is for anybody.
Speaker 6: I mean I saw first day or two a training
camp with the Patriots Tom Brady throw a hitch and
the over too.
Speaker 7: I mean, it's just it's just hard. Okay, So there's
gonna be.
Speaker 6: Moments and flashes, and those are the things you have
to look and you have to you have to watch
to see if people are making the same mistake twice.
Speaker 7: That's a that's a big thing.
Speaker 6: You don't want to be coaches, don't want to have
to spend too much time coaching the same.
Speaker 7: Thing over and over and over again.
Speaker 6: But I mean, I would say, it's kind of like
so far from what we've heard. We talked to Devin
Snow yesterday said the same thing. Nick said the same thing.
Like they said, it's not clear, but what is not
great is that they're like both they both kind of
let on like it's kind of like mid right now,
to use Devon's words yesterday, and Nick was I think
trying to be positive. He is trying to get there.
Nick kind of sounded sad, though We're not gonna lie.
Sounded a little sad on that phone call. But you know,
that's first that's first training camp. I mean even even
people that are covering the Saints get tired and hot
and sweaty, and you know, stay five, it's in a
grind right now. You're you got to get over the
hu ump. Uh you know what would you say, the
first after the first week and a half is over, you're.
Speaker 7: Kind of over the hump?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 6: I mean especially the first two weeks. Definitely the first
two weeks because then you start focusing a little bit
more on the first preseason game.
Speaker 7: But that first week, man, it's a it's a booty kicker,
for sure.
Speaker 4: I did get excited hearing him talk about the offensive
line though, because if you are a new quarterback, a
young quarterback, and you got the bomb squad in front
of you, that is the worst case scenario. And we've
seen Spencer Ratler with the bomb squad in front of
him at South Carolina. Now, he still made a lot
of plays, and I give him a lot of credit
for that year, but there was a lot of times
he would get the ball and immediately have pressure and
he still found a way. Again, like they had some
big wins that year. I believe they beat what see
North Carolina Tennessee and that.
Speaker 10: Year Right Carolina was that that opening game and if
you remember, he got sacked I think seven times in
that game. At the final box score, he was thirty
of thirty seven. Yeah, so like he was still really efficient.
Like to your point, and I mean we talked about
it the other day. Four first round picks on a
second round pick, this offensive line.
Speaker 7: Better be good.
Speaker 6: Yeah, true, Yeah, I get it. I better be your answer.
I tell you to sell me a pencil.
Speaker 7: Yeah, he'd be.
Speaker 6: And they'd be like you say, Clemson, I remember that
one won a few shekels on that.
Speaker 5: One they did.
Speaker 4: I mean, he had he had, you know, some good
times again behind a really bad offensive line. So like
to hear that it is solidified that Trevor Penning's looking
better at guard gets you excited as much as you're
going to get excited about a roster that people think
is thirty second in the NFL. Like he has to
have that, Like two things, whoever it is, has to
have I would say three, but my two main ones
protection and staying healthy at Receiveruse the backups at receiver.
Like Dev said yesterday, that ain't what you want. We
saw that last year.
Speaker 7: Is he talking about it?
Speaker 5: For Dante Pettis?
Speaker 4: All right, you gotta have Chris olave Rashichihi and Brandon
Cooks out there, and if you don't, it's going to
be troublesome.
Speaker 5: So those are my two things.
Speaker 7: Like, honestly, it's it's the NFL.
Speaker 6: It's a seventeen game season, Like odds are you're not
gonna have all three of those guys for seventeen weeks.
Speaker 7: So somebody's got to step up.
Speaker 6: I mean, those guys, those three, you have to rely
on them, You have to rely on them being healthy
for the majority. Somebody he's got to step up or
they got to build the offense around what the tight ends.
You gotta highlight tight ends, you gotta highlight your running backs.
I mean, there's ways to do it. And I do
trust Kellen Moore in his offensive creativity, like he has
been around, He's been around a really good offensive minds.
He was a good quarterback. I trust his ability to
I mean, as long as you don't like dealing like
blow after blow after blow with injury. I guess part
of the NFL is part of why offensive coordinators are
good because things do happen. You don't have the same
roster we can week out because of injuries. And even
if a guy's not injured, he might be at ninety percent,
eighty five eighty seventy five percent. You have to work
around it. But the good ones do it. But what
the most positive thing besides the phone number, he was
dialing with his cheek clearly multiple times, multiple times, like
we based on the.
Speaker 5: He was he was he was on a landline.
Speaker 6: Basically, yeah, for sure based on what the chat was
guessing the phone number was he dialed five to seven
nine four one three five.
Speaker 4: And you said it five Like that might sound crazy
to a lot of feel about was like absolutely.
Speaker 6: One hundred percent. I had another one. That child's like, yeah,
that was a seven. The next one nine, so five
seven nine three five.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll get an area code for you. Should we
call it two to five or five before since he's
in New Orleans?
Speaker 5: Both cold call cold collection? All right, fairy enough, all right,
we'll step away when we come back.
Speaker 4: There is a crazy kind of story coming out of
Major League Baseball. It involves gambling, it involves the artists
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Speaker 1: Come from the locker room to the airwaves. Gets off
the bench with Jacob Hester and Matt Flynn, and.
Speaker 4: I like the way that they walk, all right, Welcome back,
OTV one oh four five, ESPN, Baton Rouge and let's
go it now to our girl Alandra and a great
story out of the MLB.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they got some juicy stuff going on in the
MLB right now.
Speaker 8: So aside from the fact that Bryce.
Speaker 2: Harper basically cussed out Rodman Bred in the locker room
for bringing up a salary cap, which, all right, we
can go into a salary cap at another time, but like,
I just don't think that you should do a salary
clap or a cap without a floor like you need.
Speaker 8: It's just gonna end up being the same thing.
Speaker 2: If you have a salary cap, the people that aren't
spending money still are going to spend like the minimum
amount of money.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 2: But anyways, Emmanuel Class he is on leave amid a probe,
a gambling probe.
Speaker 4: So great, great pitcher, incredible relievers, had a lot of
big years. And you said he won the award for
best Reliever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Mo Rivero Award. And last so last season
in seventy four and a third innings, he threw a
point sixty one rack And that's pretty good. I mean
subs yeah, like sub zero. Yes, I would say that's
pretty good. This season and forty seven in a third innings,
Class A has a three point twenty three ERA and
has already allowed more hits this year than last year's.
So he has forty six hits on the season now
in thirty nine last year, so he's on leave.
Speaker 8: So is Louis Ortiz, a.
Speaker 2: Right handed pitcher for the Guardians as well. So sportsbooks
and gambling operators were alerted after a spike in Ortezes
first pitch of the bottom of the second inning against
the Mariners on June fifteenth, and then again in the
top of the third against the Cardinals on June twenty seventh.
Speaker 8: So people were placing bets.
Speaker 2: That the first pitch was gonna be a ball or
a hit batsman right, and they would just waste the pitch.
Like Louis Ortiz was doing the same thing, and that's
how he got caught. The same thing is happening with
Emmanuel class, So some people broke it down. In twenty
twenty four, the first pitch of the ninth inning for
Emmanuel being a waste pitch, the percentage was four point
five percent. Every other pitch is four point four percent.
So the amount of times that he would go up
there and throw a ball for the first pitch of
the ninth inning was four point five percent. This season,
first pitch of the ninth inning being a waste pitch
seventeen point five percent. There's videos I don't know Yeah,
Taylor's hold one up.
Speaker 8: Somebody like compiled Kim reacting.
Speaker 4: I don't know if you saw it first, like shoot
over actor every time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the game at the beginning of the ninth inning
forty times this season. Yeah and again seventeen point five
percent of the time. He's throwing a waste pitch and
people are placing bets on a first pitch ball or
hits bats.
Speaker 4: Yeah, what like, guys, let's just y'all are millionaires.
Speaker 5: Stop doing stupid stuff.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're gonna take your millions away, Like you're not
gonna win, Like you're never going to trick Vegas.
Speaker 5: You're never going to win. They've been doing this for
a long time.
Speaker 8: We're talking about this.
Speaker 5: Yes, what are we.
Speaker 2: Doing unless your show Hey or the manuals the manual
needs to get an interpretator to throw one of us.
Speaker 5: Like show Hey got away with it.
Speaker 4: Maybe you know whatever he did or didn't do, like
he's show Okay, he's one of one. Like if he's
going to get away with it and you're not going
to get like they caught him.
Speaker 8: Yeah he got called right.
Speaker 4: Like whatever they were doing, but it was like so
like it didn't really matter. You're going to get you
every time.
Speaker 10: The gambling stuff like go around the NBA like it
wasn't a Johntay Porter got banned for life last year.
We were talking earlier like there's something about Terry Roof's
here and like Terry Roofs here signed like a sixty
million dollar contract with the Charlotte Hornets.
Speaker 7: There's something in on him right now.
Speaker 10: That was actually in New Orleans and Biloxi because he
knows down there had like ten thousand dollars bets on
like all of his unders, and there were multiple games
where like he would pull up with an injury five
minutes in and he'd go sit down. It was like
thirteen thousand here, ten thousand here, Like, my guy, you
probably made twenty grand on that bet. You signed a
fifty million dollar contract, Like it's not even worth it
to you.
Speaker 7: That's pennies to you, So like why are you doing it?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 6: I need to ask questions here, like a billion Devil's advocate,
what if betters are just like write in a hand
that he's just not as accurate as.
Speaker 8: He was accuracy.
Speaker 4: Some of those pictures that were twenty feet yeah, but
like seventeen percent pretty big jumpers seventeen.
Speaker 6: Seventeen per seventeen percent is not enough to like.
Speaker 5: From four to seventeen is big.
Speaker 6: You got some context, okay, but like, so eighty three
percent of the time people are losing their bets.
Speaker 7: Yeah, why is that why you think he's texting people
before the game? The game? Just this game you can
pull Like I.
Speaker 5: Was going to say, that's that he threw the first one.
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's what I was gonna bring up too, is that.
Speaker 2: I mean, we got Luke Holeman out of it, So
I'm not complaining, but Brad Bohannon was literally betting against
his own players and not putting.
Speaker 7: It past anybody.
Speaker 6: I'm just saying, seventeen percent first pitch balls in the
ninth then ain't from I'm never taking those odds.
Speaker 8: As a better Exactly.
Speaker 2: You're not taking those odds as better unless you know
that he's gonna go up there and.
Speaker 8: Waste the preace.
Speaker 10: So I don't think it's I don't think it's he
does it seventeen percent of the time. I think people
know when that seventeen percent is going to be Yeah,
what were just sighlighted?
Speaker 7: It landed like in between the pitchers mount and.
Speaker 10: Right like that's not that's not like a wild You're
not gonna throw it that bad. That's like the old
celebrity trying to throw out a first pitch.
Speaker 5: And again you're talking about this one. This guy won
the Reliever of the Year.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean he's like, let him throw ball.
Speaker 7: Is he gonna get the guy out? You know?
Speaker 5: I I mean I think right now there's uh, you know,
where there's smoke, there's fire.
Speaker 2: Luis Ortiz is doing the same thing, and he's also
on leave, but they have like proof that he did
in they're just kind of looking into emmanual class M so.
Speaker 6: Overly sensitive everything, which they should be. There's gambling that
they're over sensitive and the gambling stuff they're reverly sensitive
in like supplements that they take and all that. You know,
just rightfully so for everything. Yeah, so he's on paid leave,
which tells you something. They're paying him to not play
because yeah.
Speaker 2: Non disciplinary all right, they're saying, you know, he is,
they better we better not until it's proven otherwise like
professional sports, we better not get kishan booty because wasn't
it his fault that we can't do prop Yeah, he
was betting on himself.
Speaker 6: Yeah, they say it all the time.
Speaker 7: He was taking.
Speaker 10: So he was betting on himself, not against himself. That yeah,
do we know how much how much money has been
placed on these ball belts because Emmanuel class his contracts
twenty million dollars all right, yeah, so like he doesn't
need the money.
Speaker 5: That's great.
Speaker 6: I bet we can find that out because they said
there was a spike. They just going to tell you
what the spike.
Speaker 2: The articles that I've read and like everything that I've
looked at hasn't given a dollar amount.
Speaker 8: But I'm sure it'll come out of it.
Speaker 7: Right.
Speaker 2: It's I mean, like shot show his entire bank account
statements came out.
Speaker 4: I was like, whoa, how do you get that info
that quick? Like that's personal job with the platform.
Speaker 6: I use caps my prop bets, so like I can
only bet probably like I don't do a lot.
Speaker 4: I've never been my thing. I'm more mid major college basketball, right.
Speaker 7: I love second second time touchdown score.
Speaker 5: I love that as well.
Speaker 8: I love a prop up fight bet.
Speaker 4: I love a good second yeah football seasons again, it
was Kate Otten.
Speaker 7: I remember this vividly.
Speaker 10: Jake sends his attacks like I don't know who the
bucks was fighting doesn't matter.
Speaker 5: Now. Boys was the Cowboys?
Speaker 10: Okay boys, And like Jake's like celebrating the touchdown. Yeah,
that's what it was, because like, okay, Jake's rubbing into
my face whatever he cares. He's like, I bet Kate
otten second touchdown scored in the game, and he did,
and he scored the first.
Speaker 5: Second like they were feeding the guy.
Speaker 4: And like his second touchdown odds were like plus twenty
five hundred or something.
Speaker 5: Crazy.
Speaker 10: I'm like, what did generate bet second tom touchdown?
Speaker 7: The guy who mus just guy who's got inside information?
Speaker 5: Yeah, Kate, all right, let's take a break.
Speaker 7: I got to tease for this next segment.
Speaker 5: Nice, well we have ask it's gonna be like thirty seconds. Yeah, whatever.
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