Speaker 1: A five five ninety Bible.
Speaker 2: Good morning, good morning, good morning, and welcome, welcome, welcome.
Speaker 2: It is time now for our Chief Chat today and
Speaker 2: we're speaking chiefly to the Chief of Police, Kevin Michael
Speaker 2: Berry and also mister Elkins.
Speaker 1: How you doing.
Speaker 2: Today, Good morning, it's captain. I can't keep up with
Speaker 2: everybody's promotion.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, that's right.
Speaker 2: But Chief and Captain, we have a very big informational
Speaker 2: session coming up tomorrow night.
Speaker 4: Please explain that's that's correct. Tomorrow night, we're proud to
Speaker 4: host and please to host a flock camera session forum.
Speaker 4: It's gonna be a informational form to try to get
Speaker 4: the community involved answer some questions that have been brought up.
Speaker 4: There's been a lot of noise around the flock camera
Speaker 4: systems or LPR license plate readers, and they're new to
Speaker 4: our community.
Speaker 3: So we want to answer some questions.
Speaker 4: And we want to bring people up to speed on
Speaker 4: the law and on how we use these systems and
Speaker 4: some success stories from these systems already, the minimal use
Speaker 4: we've had of the system and the reason where we're
Speaker 4: policing the community with the aid of these cameras. So
Speaker 4: it'll be it'll be tomorrow night at Lion Hall at
Speaker 4: Oklahoma Westley University. That's on the top of the hill
Speaker 4: right there at the chapel. Plenty of room for everybody
Speaker 4: there should be. We expect to have a large crowd
Speaker 4: of people that are against it, people that are for it,
Speaker 4: But we really want people to just to come open
Speaker 4: their ears, listen, and then make a good decision about
Speaker 4: how they what they believe in these systems.
Speaker 1: So that's good. I have a couple of questions. It
Speaker 1: might be for Captain Elkins.
Speaker 2: Sure, how many people do you have at the police
Speaker 2: department that actually watch that thing?
Speaker 1: Or is that just all automated.
Speaker 4: It's all automated, So yes, we don't watch the system at all.
Speaker 4: What hey, we get alerts on it or we intur
Speaker 4: alerts on.
Speaker 1: It to Fort.
Speaker 4: And Captain Nelson. The reason that Captain Elkins is here
Speaker 4: is because he has been working on this project for
Speaker 4: the last couple of years.
Speaker 3: We've been working on trying to.
Speaker 4: Get these available to us and way to fund them,
Speaker 4: and we believe strongly in the system. It's a great
Speaker 4: new tool. I like to equate it to fingerprints in
Speaker 4: the day, and then DNA came later. Those made the
Speaker 4: impact and law enforcement throughout the country and the world.
Speaker 4: The camera systems are also doing the same impact. They're
Speaker 4: not following following people who are spying on people, but
Speaker 4: they're allowing us to use them as a tool to
Speaker 4: make cases, to build a case around to find their
Speaker 4: reverence or work. The evidence is either going, well, convict
Speaker 4: somebody or set them free, so to speak. Evidence is evidence,
Speaker 4: So it tells us one exactly, and it's been used
Speaker 4: for both.
Speaker 5: Well, i'd like to it's really kind of a starting
Speaker 5: point as well. I mean, essentially, uh, it's a a
Speaker 5: picture of a known place in time of river vehicles.
Speaker 5: So there's still a lot of work to be done,
Speaker 5: a lot of investigative work and old school policing that
Speaker 5: who's driving that vehicle? How does this play into our investigation?
Speaker 5: And uh, you know, so forth.
Speaker 2: Okay, So if if I'm a person that makes a
Speaker 2: lot of stops around town just for business reasons and
Speaker 2: things like that, the cameras aren't going to pick me one, two, three, four,
Speaker 2: five all across town just to see what Tom Davis
Speaker 2: is up to. I mean, I'd like to think I'm
Speaker 2: an important person, but I don't think I'm that important.
Speaker 5: Well, and how we have the cameras, I don't think
Speaker 5: I am at all. And how we have the cameras
Speaker 5: place they're they're on the perimeter of our town looking inwards.
Speaker 5: So essentially that gives our officers time to you know,
Speaker 5: make their way to a real time alert if that's
Speaker 5: an amber alert or silver alert or stolen vehicle. You
Speaker 5: know it's going to be capturing a vehicle as it
Speaker 5: enters into our jurisdiction. So the you know, being able
Speaker 5: to follow you as it as you move throughout town
Speaker 5: is really not how we have a system design it all.
Speaker 5: And again, you know, part of following or tracking or
Speaker 5: monitoring and surveillance is the continuation. You know, this is
Speaker 5: you know, a picture at one fixed location at a
Speaker 5: point in time.
Speaker 3: So it's there's still a.
Speaker 5: Lot of room to move about. We're publicly letting everyone
Speaker 5: know where these cameras are at. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no
Speaker 5: no secret about it at all. You know they have
Speaker 5: it's a four pound camera, you know, solar powered camera.
Speaker 3: It does not take.
Speaker 2: Video, just steal pictures. And we see a lot of
Speaker 2: people didn't know that. A lot of people right there
Speaker 2: they thought this was running video. It did steal video.
Speaker 2: And I don't think anybody knew that what you right
Speaker 2: there said that these are just steel pictures.
Speaker 5: I don't think anyone need Yeah, and tomorrow night at
Speaker 5: our community form, we'll be able to explain that and
Speaker 5: show that. And and part of which is, you know,
Speaker 5: there's a lot about the information being shared or sold
Speaker 5: to third parties that's not allowed, that does not happen.
Speaker 5: And flock itself doesn't even have the vehicle registration of
Speaker 5: the you know, of the picture. I mean they literally
Speaker 5: have a picture of a rare of a vehicle or
Speaker 5: rear vehicle, or of multiple vehicles and that information is
Speaker 5: automatically deleted after thirty days.
Speaker 2: So divorced attorneys don't have any hand on this, right, Absolutely, no,
Speaker 2: I'm just asking.
Speaker 5: It's a great question, but yeah, it's it's not going
Speaker 5: to be it are so our policy outlines how uh
Speaker 5: this tool is to be used.
Speaker 3: That has to have a law enforcement in nexus.
Speaker 5: It has to be tied to a crime for us
Speaker 5: to query the system.
Speaker 3: And in law enforcement we're not unique to that.
Speaker 5: We have record management systems that we do our reports on.
Speaker 5: We have olets in our vehicles that we can run
Speaker 5: tags and driver's license status. That's a lot of very
Speaker 5: confidential information and that law enforcement across the nation you know,
Speaker 5: is in charge to be you know, responsible custodian of
Speaker 5: that information.
Speaker 3: So this is.
Speaker 5: Nothing new, uh, you know, for what we're typically you
Speaker 5: know in charge of UH. And it's just another tool
Speaker 5: to better enhance, you know, our ability to.
Speaker 1: Keep the community safe.
Speaker 5: The Department of Justice that did a research project many
Speaker 5: years ago talked about the silo effect amongst law enforcement
Speaker 5: and essentially how one agency or multiple agencies could have
Speaker 5: the same information on organized crime but without the really
Speaker 5: ability to share that across the board. Well, flock kind
Speaker 5: of knocks those.
Speaker 1: Barriers down for us.
Speaker 5: It really allows us to network and you know, fight
Speaker 5: crime together.
Speaker 1: I have a question for you, cheap.
Speaker 2: We've had some chances in doubt on over the last
Speaker 2: couple of months and will end up being stolen vehicles.
Speaker 2: Were those dinged by the cameras?
Speaker 4: In most cases I don't know specifically of any of
Speaker 4: those being dinged by the cameras. However, we have had
Speaker 4: stolen vehicles coming into our city and to the point
Speaker 4: of spying on people. We've had those same vehicles in
Speaker 4: er the city and those same vehicles leave the city
Speaker 4: without us catching them, so we don't know where they've
Speaker 4: come after they passed the camera, right, so.
Speaker 3: We have some successful reason.
Speaker 4: The biggest thing about he was talking about the silo
Speaker 4: Daniel was talking about the silo effect. Uh, the biggest
Speaker 4: thing that's helped us as a networking part of the
Speaker 4: piece of this. Uh, there's over five thousand communities in
Speaker 4: the United States that have the FLOCK camera system or
Speaker 4: LPR camera systems.
Speaker 1: UH.
Speaker 4: Some of them use different companies, but being able to
Speaker 4: if you're on the FLOCK system, you can communicate with
Speaker 4: other agencies that are on the FLOCK system.
Speaker 1: UH.
Speaker 4: Therefore, if we have a stolen vehicle or a homicide
Speaker 4: suspect that we're looking for, where we can uh put
Speaker 4: the information their their vehicle into the system, and if
Speaker 4: it passes one of those cameras, it'll dean give us
Speaker 4: an alert. So we kind of know where they're at
Speaker 4: at that at that moment in time.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 4: But I mean they're going to be there when we
Speaker 4: get there. But it means that we at least have
Speaker 4: a starting point to work out from.
Speaker 1: UH.
Speaker 4: So the networking part is huge. We've got a couple
Speaker 4: of stores we can talk talk about dealing with that.
Speaker 4: We had a homicide UH over the summer that Highway
Speaker 4: one twenty three and Frank Phillips, I think most people are.
Speaker 1: Aware of that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was November three.
Speaker 4: So it was it was Anyhow, during that time.
Speaker 3: We were able to.
Speaker 4: We were in the process, the honeymoon phase of trying
Speaker 4: to be talked into getting the FLOCK system and UH
Speaker 4: Daniel reached out to the Flock salesman and he actually
Speaker 4: worked for us, helped us and got that information in
Speaker 4: the vehicle suspect vehicle information and had it put in
Speaker 4: the system and Yep, it was a hit on and
Speaker 4: I think that was the one for Wichita. But we
Speaker 4: had two different incidents. But we had suspect run from Bartsley,
Speaker 4: Oklahoma after he murdered the suspect and go into Kansas Coffeeville, Caney, Wichita.
Speaker 4: Several communities in Canty, Kansas have the FLOCK camera system.
Speaker 4: Input of that suspect vehicle showed that it had been
Speaker 4: in Wichita. So we got a hold of witch Tal
Speaker 4: PD and let them know. They began checking relatives of
Speaker 4: the suspect and located the suspects vehicle and located the suspects.
Speaker 4: So we were able to apprehend that suspect on the
Speaker 4: homicide that happened two different times that summer. We had
Speaker 4: another homicide suspect that fled to Coffeeville in the same
Speaker 4: situations the type of situation you fled to no subject
Speaker 4: up in Coffeeville, and we were able to have Coffeeville
Speaker 4: PD go locate him and take him into custody. That's
Speaker 4: just a couple of homicide suspects that we've recovered from
Speaker 4: the networking of this camera system.
Speaker 2: But I understand and I want you and I want
Speaker 2: to make sure people know you're going to hear some
Speaker 2: really good returns of people.
Speaker 3: Oh.
Speaker 1: Absolutely when we go to the event tonight.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's going to be something that could could
Speaker 2: you know, way one's opinion.
Speaker 4: Well, and you know, we believed strongly in the in
Speaker 4: the system. Our job we've all sworn oas to protect
Speaker 4: and serve this community, and in law enforcement, a lot
Speaker 4: of that is give us the right tools and we
Speaker 4: can do a better job. And if we don't have
Speaker 4: the tools, we can only do what we can do
Speaker 4: as human beings. You know, as innovations come along, it's
Speaker 4: important for us to try to be on the cutting
Speaker 4: edge of those and move us forward not backwards.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: I can think of a time I, as a detective,
Speaker 4: was chasing a young man that had kidnapped his son
Speaker 4: and was planning on killing him. I chased him four
Speaker 4: days straight, four days straight, no sleep, chasing this guy.
Speaker 4: I was always like an hour behind him four days
Speaker 4: inuntil I finally caught up with him at the Intahqua, Oklahoma,
Speaker 4: chased him back to Wagner, Oklahoma, where we took him
Speaker 4: into custody. Fortunately, the child was with him and we
Speaker 4: recovered the child. That took four days. Recently, we had
Speaker 4: here Barsville. We had a young lady that's had put
Speaker 4: her son in the back seat of her car, went
Speaker 4: around to get in the driver's seat to leave, and
Speaker 4: her ex boyfriend came out of the bushes, came cameo
Speaker 4: gear sold the child out of the back seat of
Speaker 4: the vehicle, jumped in another vehicle, and they fled the
Speaker 4: scene with the child in less than an hour. Due
Speaker 4: to flock systems, we were able to enter that vehicle
Speaker 4: information in the system. However, control had them stopped over
Speaker 4: by Clairemore and recovered that child.
Speaker 3: That's the importance of this what it took me four
Speaker 3: days to.
Speaker 4: Do and do for twenty four four twenty four hours
Speaker 4: a day for seven four days.
Speaker 3: It took less than an hour for us to.
Speaker 4: Be able to figure out where he's going or where
Speaker 4: he's at and get him get the child recovered. I mean,
Speaker 4: that's incredible to me. That's one instance. So their investigative tools,
Speaker 4: and again once they passed the camera, we know they
Speaker 4: passed the camera and sad then we have to start
Speaker 4: looking for him. We've had stolen vehicles enter the city
Speaker 4: limits of Bortlsville that we're still looking for it. You
Speaker 4: know they passed the camera, but where do they go
Speaker 4: after that? We still have to try to find them
Speaker 4: and locate them, So tracking people, we're not tracking people.
Speaker 5: Another part I would like to add is the access
Speaker 5: to this tool. We've really per our policy and locked
Speaker 5: the access down and we're only allowing lieutenants, which is
Speaker 5: meant to up arrange supervisor, to have access to the
Speaker 5: portal so their officers or detectives that they represent will
Speaker 5: come to them with investigative lead information to get plugged
Speaker 5: in the system. So we have about nine people in total,
Speaker 5: that's lieutenants, in our dispatch supervisors you know who's in
Speaker 5: charge of a whole team and dispatchers twenty four to seven.
Speaker 3: You know, they have access to it.
Speaker 5: Again, that's just in the name of trying to compromise
Speaker 5: and keep people at ease on just being the custodians
Speaker 5: of this information.
Speaker 1: This is interesting.
Speaker 2: So once again, what time are we going to be
Speaker 2: meeting out at Lion Hall today?
Speaker 4: Lion Halt Thursday night at six o'clock. Thursday night, Thursday night, yep,
Speaker 4: January sixteenth at at six o'clock. The lineup is pretty
Speaker 4: good lineup. We're going to have a just return to
Speaker 4: Will Drake. We'll be there to talk about the law
Speaker 4: and how it governs these cameras at the Constitution. Then
Speaker 4: we'll also have a representative from Flock Camera Systems present
Speaker 4: to kind of explain the system and how that works.
Speaker 4: And then our officers will be there to talk about
Speaker 4: some of our success stories. We've got some pretty good ones.
Speaker 4: And then we're going to have Jason White, who is
Speaker 4: a homicide detective with Tulsa Police Department, who is also
Speaker 4: most people know him from the first forty eight on
Speaker 4: A and E. Jason White as a national speaker, and
Speaker 4: he is very valuable to the Tulsa Police Department and
Speaker 4: obviously works as a homicide unit there, and he's got
Speaker 4: some stuff to talk about how they used for lock
Speaker 4: camers and how their crime has been reduced and how
Speaker 4: they rely on the same type of system to help
Speaker 4: them solve crime. And I think they'll find interesting that
Speaker 4: Tassa Homicide not too many years ago used to have
Speaker 4: upwards of eighty and ninety homicides a year. The last
Speaker 4: two years they've had in twenty two or twenty three,
Speaker 4: they had like fifty two or fifty three homicides.
Speaker 3: Of those, they saved all of them.
Speaker 4: Two last year they had fifty homicides and they solved
Speaker 4: every one of them. Part of that is because of
Speaker 4: the technologies they use. So I think that's important for
Speaker 4: our audience to understand that if we don't change with technology,
Speaker 4: we're going to be behind and our people are going
Speaker 4: to get hurt. And again, we swore no to take
Speaker 4: care of our people, and we're going to do everything
Speaker 4: we can to make sure Borswell is a safe place
Speaker 4: to live and work and play and that you can
Speaker 4: move around.
Speaker 3: And I'll be afraid come on a night six o'clock
Speaker 3: line Chapel.
Speaker 1: That's correct, all right, thank you very much. I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: But by the way, Captain, is it too early to
Speaker 2: start thinking barbecue contes.
Speaker 5: No. I actually had some contestants that have their.
Speaker 3: Hold coming up in a couple of months.
Speaker 5: Their whole circuit planned out for this next year. They
Speaker 5: wanted one of the dates for our block party to
Speaker 5: plug them in because they definitely love coming to our cookoff.
Speaker 5: So after this I need to start thinking about that.
Speaker 1: But right now we're thinking about that.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, you know last year I popped I popped
Speaker 2: by and took a whiff.
Speaker 1: I gained five pounds just smelling.
Speaker 3: Were you not? Were you not a judge?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: Maybe somebody could make you a judge this year or something.
Speaker 1: Well, folks, you know it sounds like I'm going to
Speaker 1: be in a lineup. Ah very much.
Speaker 2: Police Chief miael Berry and Captain Elkins appreciate you being
Speaker 2: with you.