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<v Speaker 1>The time is almost upon us for sailing Fest twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four. I can't believe it's already here. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we've been talking about it on the show for such

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<v Speaker 1>a long time now, a lot of preparation in the background,

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<v Speaker 1>but the time is now and your Sailing Fest twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four coverage begins here. So to help me go

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<v Speaker 1>through the schedule of Sailing Fest, I'm invited on my

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<v Speaker 1>longtime friend, friends of the show and the author of

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<v Speaker 1>The Twilight Zone hi Q, Chad Ellis Boykin. Chads, welcome back, man.

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<v Speaker 2>It's great to be here. Tom, Thanks so much for

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<v Speaker 2>having me on. This is really exciting. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>When we last spoke, you were just publishing The Twilight

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<v Speaker 1>Zone high Q. So how's it been now? The book

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<v Speaker 1>is out, the audio book is how's it been for you?

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<v Speaker 2>It's been really exciting. We've done some really cool things.

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<v Speaker 2>We had a book launch event where I had an

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<v Speaker 2>actual cellist do some musical accompaniment to some of the

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<v Speaker 2>select poems and you know, sort of introduced the shows

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<v Speaker 2>that they were based on for anybody in the audience

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<v Speaker 2>that might not be familiar. We've had an art exhibit

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<v Speaker 2>in Brooklyn. We've done multiple signings and readings. We've done

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<v Speaker 2>some visual art pieces, and we've worked on some actual

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<v Speaker 2>haiku comic panels with a collaboration with Weirdo Poetry. So

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<v Speaker 2>we've done a lot of cool stuff. It's been well

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<v Speaker 2>received and it's hard to believe it's almost a year.

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<v Speaker 2>And of course, the the coolest thing is that I

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<v Speaker 2>got the new Millennium Voice of the Twilight Zone to

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<v Speaker 2>do the narration for the audiobook, so that makes it

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<v Speaker 2>really special.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, thank you man, thank you. It was a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of fun to do that. Now that kind of leads

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<v Speaker 1>quite nicely into our sailing Fest coverage because sailing Fest

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<v Speaker 1>itself begins on Friday, the thirteenth of September, and we'll

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<v Speaker 1>get onto the schedule in a moment, but there's actually

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<v Speaker 1>a kind of pre sailing Fest thing going on, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'll just run through my time in Binghamton for anyone

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<v Speaker 1>out there, you know, who wants to kind of say

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<v Speaker 1>hello or whatever. I'm actually going to be there from

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<v Speaker 1>the Thursday now, probably not till late afternoon, early evening,

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<v Speaker 1>but if there are any early birds about then do

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<v Speaker 1>get in touch and I'll tell you a way to

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<v Speaker 1>do that later on. You know, for the early sailing

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<v Speaker 1>Fest gets together, so we'll be doing that. But then

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<v Speaker 1>the next day, on the Friday, there's actually a pre

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<v Speaker 1>sailing Fest thing going on, isn't there that you've organized.

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<v Speaker 2>There is, And until you set it out loud, it

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<v Speaker 2>didn't occur to me that it's a Friday the thirteenth. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so I think that's probably a good omen considering this.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, we have put together a collaborative Rod Serling

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<v Speaker 2>author discussion and book signing. I worked with Barnes and

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<v Speaker 2>Noble in Vestal, New York. So they're at twenty four

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<v Speaker 2>forty three Vestl Parkway East and they are hosting a

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<v Speaker 2>two hour book signing discussion. And we've got some real

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<v Speaker 2>heavy hitters. We've got Nicholas Parisi, president of the Rod

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<v Speaker 2>Serling Memorial Foundation, who everyone's familiar with as one of

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<v Speaker 2>the main organizers of Surling Fest. He's going to be

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<v Speaker 2>there discussing his book, Rod Serling, his life, work and Imagination,

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<v Speaker 2>which you know, back in twenty nineteen when we were

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<v Speaker 2>both at the Surling Fest. It was my first one

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<v Speaker 2>and the last one I've been to since his book

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<v Speaker 2>had just come out, And so he'll be discussing his book.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be discussing the Twilight Zone Niku. We also have

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<v Speaker 2>Christopher Benedict who's going to be doing a reading and

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<v Speaker 2>discussion of the Twilight Rounds, which is all about Rod

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<v Speaker 2>Serling's work related to boxing, and Coreyn Shadmy will be

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<v Speaker 2>there to discuss The Twilight Man, which is that fantastic

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<v Speaker 2>graphic novel. Again, I think that came out around twenty

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen when we were at that Surling Fest. And then

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<v Speaker 2>finally Tony Alborella Timeless is Infinity. He'll be discussing his

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<v Speaker 2>works that collected all of the Rod Serling scripts for

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<v Speaker 2>the Twilight Zone. So we've got a really nice event

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<v Speaker 2>lined up for everybody. The idea, you know, people who

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<v Speaker 2>are arriving early can come and do this extra bonus event,

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<v Speaker 2>and folks who are in the bookshop and around the

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<v Speaker 2>area might be sort of a gateway drug into Serling

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<v Speaker 2>Fest if it's something that they don't know about yet,

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<v Speaker 2>So it should be a lot of fun. It's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be from two to four on September thirteenth, or

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<v Speaker 2>just a couple hours before Sailing Fest starts in Earnest.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, and how far away from like the center of Binghamton.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that I believe it's about eight miles so it's

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<v Speaker 2>pretty close.

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<v Speaker 1>Too far then, okay, no, that sounds like a great

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<v Speaker 1>way to kick everything off and you know, get to

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<v Speaker 1>see some of these writers and everything before the actual

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<v Speaker 1>thing starts. So I think that's a great idea. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's going to be two till four and then on

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<v Speaker 1>the Friday night that's when the sailing fest begins. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'll just run through the list of what's on. So

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<v Speaker 1>at six pm we have Great the Evert for the People.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think this Friday night is it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be all like shows and things that you actually sit

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<v Speaker 1>and watch. It's not so much panels and so on.

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<v Speaker 1>But at six pm Grade de Evert for the People.

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<v Speaker 1>You ever seen that one?

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<v Speaker 2>Chad? I haven't seen that one. So that's one of

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<v Speaker 2>the things I love about this is getting to see

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<v Speaker 2>things that are new to me that I haven't seen before.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, So that's going to be introduced by Nick Parisi

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<v Speaker 1>and that kicks off the celebrations. Then at six point

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<v Speaker 1>thirty five, there's going to be two episodes of The Loner,

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<v Speaker 1>and they are one of the Wounded and the home

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<v Speaker 1>the Homecoming of Lemuel Stove. Now I don't recall one

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<v Speaker 1>of the wounded, but I do know the Homecoming of

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<v Speaker 1>Lemuel Stove is a very good episode of The Loner,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's going to be introduced by Tony Alborella. And

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<v Speaker 1>you've heard them on this podcast on that great Nightmare

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<v Speaker 1>at twenty thousand Feet episode we did. So he's a

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<v Speaker 1>really good guy, Tony, and I'm looking forward to check

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<v Speaker 1>on those outs you watch much Loaner Chad.

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<v Speaker 2>I've watched a couple of episodes, but i haven't seen

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<v Speaker 2>the whole series. I've listened to a little bit. I

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<v Speaker 2>think you've covered it a little bit on the show

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<v Speaker 2>here and there.

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<v Speaker 1>Over on Patreon. Yeah, yeah, Okay. So then seven forty

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<v Speaker 1>five Night Gallery, the Caterpillar and the Tearing Down Tim

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<v Speaker 1>Riley's Bar, two of the most famous and well thought

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<v Speaker 1>of episodes, and that's going to be introduced by Scott

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<v Speaker 1>Skelton and Jim Benson, the co author of Rod Sailings,

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<v Speaker 1>Night Gallery and After Hours Tour. So I'm looking forward to.

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<v Speaker 2>That one absolutely. I've listened to your coverage on the

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<v Speaker 2>Patreon show, and I'm really looking forward, especially to the

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<v Speaker 2>tearing down of Tim Riley's Bar. I think the consensus

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<v Speaker 2>is that's maybe one of the best Night Gallery episodes.

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<v Speaker 1>So after that, to round the night off nine pm,

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<v Speaker 1>we have, in praise of Pip and Deaths, had revisited

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<v Speaker 1>a bit of a down for at the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the night, boar what are you going to do? And

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<v Speaker 1>they're introduced by and Sailing, So that's good, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>always nice to round off the night with a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of twilight zones.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess absolutely. I expect I'll be weeping on the

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<v Speaker 2>way back to the hotel.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's going to finish around ten pm. Now what

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<v Speaker 1>happens after that, I don't know, because I'm not going

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<v Speaker 1>to be hitting the bars or I mean, i might

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<v Speaker 1>go out just for a beer, but I've got to

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<v Speaker 1>be on the stage the next day, so I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>going out and getting drunk or anything like that. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to have an easy night. But I might if

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of people and they're going to go

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<v Speaker 1>to a bar or something, then I might come out

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<v Speaker 1>for a little bit, but I will be taking it

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<v Speaker 1>easy that night.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably a good plan. Well, we'll make sure to sneak

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<v Speaker 2>some airplane bottles in for you on Saturday morning.

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<v Speaker 1>So here yeah, yeah, okay, So Saturday is when you

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<v Speaker 1>know the thing really kicks off into high gear. So

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<v Speaker 1>ten am at the theater is it the Forum Theater

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<v Speaker 1>in Binghamton, it's called I believe it is. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So ten am welcoming remarks and video tributes by Nick Parisi.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's going to go on for half an hour.

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<v Speaker 1>Then a tenth eighty Sailing unscripted with Tony Alborella. And

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<v Speaker 1>on the website it says, through an array of interview clips,

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<v Speaker 1>Rod Sailing exhibits his trademark wisdom and insight on topics

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<v Speaker 1>such as race, politics, the Twilight Zone, writing and television.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's nothing better than a Rod Sailing interview, is

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<v Speaker 1>there where he's just dishing out wisdom like so effortlessly.

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<v Speaker 1>So I like the sound of that.

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<v Speaker 2>One absolutely, And it sounds like they've put sort of

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<v Speaker 2>a collage together. So I'm really excited to see how

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<v Speaker 2>they've curated that.

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<v Speaker 1>Now this one eleven forty five, The Twilight rounds Christopher Benedict.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I met Christopher at sailing Fest last time. Really

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<v Speaker 1>good guy. Unfortunately I kind of missed his book so

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<v Speaker 1>he wrote you mentioned it before, like a history of

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<v Speaker 1>rod sailing and boxing, you know, because sailing he was

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<v Speaker 1>a boxer at some point and you know, wrote several

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<v Speaker 1>stories about boxing. I hope he's got some of his

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<v Speaker 1>books for sale because I wouldn't mind picking one of

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<v Speaker 1>those up. Have you managed to catch that I have?

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<v Speaker 2>They are a little bit hard to find, so you

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<v Speaker 2>have to reach out to him. He's actually gonna have

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<v Speaker 2>some copies both at the at the Serling Fest event

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<v Speaker 2>and at that Barnes and Noble signing, So he's he's

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<v Speaker 2>going to have a stack and I'm going to be

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<v Speaker 2>tabling and well, I think we're gonna split a table

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<v Speaker 2>and he'll he'll be there and he'll have some on hand.

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<v Speaker 2>So I've I've got a copy of it. It's really

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<v Speaker 2>good because Serling there's the famous Serling boxing works that

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<v Speaker 2>we're on the Twilight Zone, but he also has other

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<v Speaker 2>works that Benedict has dug up, and Benedict is a

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<v Speaker 2>real sort of notable boxing historian and scholar, and he's

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<v Speaker 2>done a lot of incredible stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's it's a really a good piece, excellent. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I look forward to catching up with Chris again. And

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<v Speaker 1>get me hands on that book. So twelve thirty Rock

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<v Speaker 1>from the Twilight Zone from Gail flug longtime music journalist

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<v Speaker 1>Gail Fluke discusses the many times that Rod Serling's most

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<v Speaker 1>famous career crossed over into the dimension of rock and roll. Gail,

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<v Speaker 1>I believe does a lot of the work on the

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<v Speaker 1>newsletter from the Memorial Foundation, putting it together, making it

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<v Speaker 1>look really professional and nice. And I think I met

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<v Speaker 1>her last time. But yeah, she's a she's a great lady.

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<v Speaker 1>So this sounds pretty interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>It does. And if I remember from twenty nineteen, didn't

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<v Speaker 2>they have sort of a music panel where they were

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<v Speaker 2>talking about maybe the scoring of the show or oh okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of remember that, and I remember liking it

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So another good one there for the morning, so

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<v Speaker 1>that will set us up for the morning. And then

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<v Speaker 1>at one point fifteen until two thirty, it's a lunch break.

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<v Speaker 1>And then who's this clown? Who's on a two thirty?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Elliott?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Yeah, this is the one point in the show

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<v Speaker 2>where I thought, man, maybe they made a misstep here.

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<v Speaker 1>on this upcoming Christmas, I thought i'd, you know, tie

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<v Speaker 1>all these things together. So while unfortunately No Christmas this

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<v Speaker 1>Year you know, doesn't exist, the script does. And basically

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<v Speaker 1>I've put a lot of work into it. I hope

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<v Speaker 2>on something like that? Like this is sort of an

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<v Speaker 1>allude to the script quite often. It's it's just a

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<v Speaker 1>radio for you know, it's quite interesting anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>That's exciting, And some of the most memorable Twilight Zone

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<v Speaker 2>episodes right were you know, based set in winter and

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<v Speaker 1>they'll let anyone into this thing. Two poets inspired by

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<v Speaker 1>the Twilight Zone chat Boykin and Ricky Santa Okay, go

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<v Speaker 2>there's a Twilight Zone poetry and it was unbeknownst to me.

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<v Speaker 2>But in twenty twenty one and Ricky Saner. We've had

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<v Speaker 2>winning multiple books, teaches poetry, really a top notch poet.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't know what they're doing putting me with

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<v Speaker 2>it was such a memorable experience being there in twenty

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen and the carousel and all the great events, meeting people.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's a really good book. I finished it recently,

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<v Speaker 2>coup I thought, well, there's been so much amazing work

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<v Speaker 2>been done. Well, I bet nobody's done a poetry book,

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<v Speaker 2>right for the Twilet Zone. Well I was wrong. Somebody

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<v Speaker 2>had already done a wonderful poetry book. So again it's

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<v Speaker 2>the Twilight Zone. My coup is Jabra House Press. So

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<v Speaker 2>person who loses the match. But really, if you're a

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<v Speaker 2>with sort of a punk rock mohawk. Well, when I

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<v Speaker 2>learned that there was you know, Stopover, and I got it.

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<v Speaker 2>I looked at the back and who published this book?

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<v Speaker 2>But the publisher is called Luchador Press and it's literally

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<v Speaker 2>where it was like, I can't believe this is real.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's gonna be an excellent panel. We're putting it together.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's two different types of poetry. So Haiku is

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<v Speaker 2>like Japanese short form poetry. She does more traditional poetry.

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<v Speaker 2>So it should be really fun hopefully, And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the idea is that these sort of poetry books can

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<v Speaker 2>And if you're a Twilight Zone fan, maybe it's the

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<v Speaker 2>gateway into another world that maybe you're poetry and different

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<v Speaker 2>types of poetry too. So yeah, hopefully we'll have a

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<v Speaker 2>visual presentation and should be a lot of fun. Great.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh of course not no. And you know, the worst

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<v Speaker 2>everybody's going to be on this high from from from

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<v Speaker 1>pirate technics, you know, I'll try and just just pull

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<v Speaker 1>four point eighty PM rod in Ohio, and that's with

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Dewiziac. Now he wrote the book Everything I Learned

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<v Speaker 1>I Learned in the Twilight Zone. But he is like

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<v Speaker 1>a really my goodness, the things he's done. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's like an expert on Colombo, he's an expert on Poe.

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<v Speaker 1>as Mark Twain. And he's just really such an interesting

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<v Speaker 1>he's a great storyteller. If you were sat around the

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, And I actually recently just picked up the Death

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't started it yet, but yeah, I think that's

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<v Speaker 2>him on after us, So you know, he'll he'll save

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<v Speaker 1>That's a clean up the act. Now five point fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>High Values, Highly Valued and Sailing Mark all Shaker and

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Dewiziak. Mark Dewiziak joins An Sailing and Mark Olshaker

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<v Speaker 1>it informs his life and work. Now we spoke about

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Dewiziak. Obviously we all know Ann Sailing and her

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<v Speaker 1>wonderful book. As I knew him Mark Allshaker, he was

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<v Speaker 1>actually on the podcast. We've done a little interview with

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<v Speaker 1>him at Sailing Fest in twenty nineteen. Again, just a

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<v Speaker 1>really interesting guy. Was actually friends with Rod Sailing, so

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure he'll speak about that. So, yeah, another good panel.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I'm really looking forward to that one. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>one of the things that really drew me in into

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<v Speaker 2>that Rod Sterling had in his day. Probably our day

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<v Speaker 2>is no less fraught with some of the same problems

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<v Speaker 2>forward to that one, Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>And then at six point eighty pm and after I

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<v Speaker 1>And I know, these two guys, when you've got a

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<v Speaker 2>All these years.

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<v Speaker 1>But again just both experienced in their fields, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And while maybe the hit rate in Night Gallery isn't

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<v Speaker 1>And you could ask for two better people to be

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, and then seventh thirty raffle drawing and closing remarks

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<v Speaker 1>and that is your Sailing Fest events. Now that's the Saturday.

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<v Speaker 1>So that Saturday night I will be out in the bars, restaurants,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever we end up doing. But that's going to probably

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<v Speaker 1>so you're going to be along for that.

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<v Speaker 1>So then the thing is we can all take our

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<v Speaker 1>about twelve o'clock, but yeah, keep an eye on that.

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<v Speaker 1>But man, it feels like this has been so long

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<v Speaker 1>there's the bricks that people bought and so on that

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<v Speaker 1>it surrounds, and I'm so looking forward to seeing this statue.

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<v Speaker 2>Man. Yeah, that's one of the real capstones. They don't

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<v Speaker 2>have that as part of the official sort of schedule.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd heard either eleven or twelve, so I'll keep an

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<v Speaker 2>eye on that. But that's something I'm really looking forward to.

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<v Speaker 2>They've put some images of the statue online and it's

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely gorgeous and you know, what a fitting tribute. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>It's so many statues are sort of questionable. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how it is on your side of

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<v Speaker 2>the pond, but you know, this is something I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think anybody's ever going to be compelled to pull down

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<v Speaker 2>or challenge a statue of Rod Serling. I think this

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<v Speaker 2>is something that's really well deserved and something that's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be a real bright spot and probably a tourist

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<v Speaker 2>attraction for Binghamton. I mean, this is really an amazing thing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been in the works for years. There were this

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<v Speaker 2>multiple kickstart and like you said, the bricks they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to be at the foundation. It's really going to be exciting.

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<v Speaker 1>Just everyone together there because that, man, that's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be some crowd, I imagine, because it's not just going

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<v Speaker 1>to be the festival goers. It's going to be people

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<v Speaker 1>who live in Binghamton as well, all kinds of people there.

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<v Speaker 1>So I really cannot wait for that. And then that

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<v Speaker 1>is that is the weekend really and then it's just

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<v Speaker 1>a case of you know, whether people go home on

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<v Speaker 1>the Sunday or the Monday. And yeah, I just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I really can't wait for it. I think the podcast

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<v Speaker 1>turn out people who listen to the podcast is pretty staggering.

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<v Speaker 1>The number of people who are going. I am you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that a lot of people who listen to

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<v Speaker 1>this show have decided to go because of coverage that's

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<v Speaker 1>been here and so on. I'm just completely humbled by that.

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<v Speaker 1>And what I would say is this is probably going

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<v Speaker 1>to be the last time I go to Sailing Fest. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I would never say never. There's a very possibility in

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<v Speaker 1>the future that maybe I'll think, oh yeah, I could

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<v Speaker 1>go back again, but the likelihood is this is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be the one. And I think there's a certain

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<v Speaker 1>poetry of the Twilight Zone. You know, I've got about

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<v Speaker 1>twenty episodes left to cover it. It probably takes me

456
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<v Speaker 1>like a year and a half to do it. But

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<v Speaker 1>then I think there's a certain poetry and kind of

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<v Speaker 1>ending here with rod sailing statue, it's like, great, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we did it. Not that I'm responsible for the statue,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know what I mean, it's like it all

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<v Speaker 1>kind of comes together. So if you are going, please

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<v Speaker 1>do come over and say hello. You know, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to meet you. Let me know who you are, and

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<v Speaker 1>I would love to meet you, you know, because this

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<v Speaker 1>is the only time this is probably going to happen

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<v Speaker 1>and at this amazing event, I really do want you

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<v Speaker 1>to come over and say hello.

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<v Speaker 2>If you want, I'll tell them extra. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>think that people are excited to see you, Tom, because

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty nineteen that was sort of your first appearance.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember walking up to the carousel and couple of

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<v Speaker 2>people came up to me and they said, hey, are

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<v Speaker 2>you Tom. I think I was wearing something really outlandish

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<v Speaker 2>or garish, like a purple suit vest, suit jacket or something,

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<v Speaker 2>and I really wanted to say yes, but I knew

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<v Speaker 2>as soon as I opened my mouth it was going

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<v Speaker 2>to be more than clear to even the most casual

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<v Speaker 2>listener that I was not you. So I didn't try

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<v Speaker 2>to fool anybody. But no, I think it is a

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<v Speaker 2>big draw and people are gonna be excited to see

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<v Speaker 2>you and have this. You know, you're doing the final

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<v Speaker 2>season of the Twilight Zone on the show, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think everybody is really looking forward to seeing you.

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<v Speaker 1>So back in twenty nineteen, we had an app that

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<v Speaker 1>we used to kind of keep in touch with each

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<v Speaker 1>other when we were there. Now, sadly that app has

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<v Speaker 1>gone away. Now it doesn't exist anymore. But I have

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<v Speaker 1>set up a group on an app called Telegram. Now

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<v Speaker 1>Telegram you can download it in your app store. It's

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<v Speaker 1>free and if you want a link to join this group,

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<v Speaker 1>then just email me Tom at the Twilight Zone podcast

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<v Speaker 1>dot com and I will send you the invite link. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the thing is a lot of people go to Sailing

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<v Speaker 1>Fest on their own, which you know I did in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty nineteen, and you know, you don't necessarily know people,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's like, oh, where are people going to be?

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<v Speaker 1>You'll back me up on this chat that one of

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<v Speaker 1>the best things about it is sure, the panels are good,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, watching the shows is good, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>the moments between where you're mixing with other Twilight Zone

501
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<v Speaker 1>fans and things like that. And I think if you

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<v Speaker 1>are on your own and it's like, well, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to kind of go where the people are, but I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know where they are, then I will be put

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<v Speaker 1>on where I am on the app or even independent

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<v Speaker 1>of me. If you're at a loose end and it's like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>is anyone getting dinner tonight? Can I join you? I

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<v Speaker 1>guarantee someone will say yeah, you know, and you will.

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<v Speaker 1>You will find the group.

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<v Speaker 2>If you like.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you want a link to that, then just

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<v Speaker 1>email me Tom at the Twilight Zone podcast dot com

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<v Speaker 1>and I will send it to you. Now you can

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<v Speaker 1>use the app without revealing your phone number two other people,

515
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<v Speaker 1>so there's a level of privacy there as well. So

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<v Speaker 1>send me a message and I will get that over

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<v Speaker 1>to you or Chads. I mean, what was your experience

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<v Speaker 1>like that last time with the people? If you like

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<v Speaker 1>the people aspect of it.

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<v Speaker 2>In a word, it was magic. It was like I

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<v Speaker 2>was surrounded by strangers who I knew better than some

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<v Speaker 2>of my own friends, and you know, you just you.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a camaraderie. It's like you found your people, all

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<v Speaker 2>your people are in one place, and uh, I think

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<v Speaker 2>you were exactly right. It's it's those moments in between,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's it's it's a They seem to keep this

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<v Speaker 2>relatively small, you know, like this is limited to the

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<v Speaker 2>Twilight Zone and to Rod Serling Fantom. It's not like

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<v Speaker 2>San Diego Comic Con, where there's you know, a million

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<v Speaker 2>people around and all of that. This is uh sort

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<v Speaker 2>of like a really small group of friends, whether you

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<v Speaker 2>know them or not. And I actually, you know, met

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<v Speaker 2>people at the Curling Fest and twenty nineteen that I've

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<v Speaker 2>kept in touch with over the years. So it's really

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<v Speaker 2>one of the best parts of it.

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<v Speaker 1>So it begins here. Next time I speak to you,

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<v Speaker 1>it's probably going to be from there. Now. Obviously I

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<v Speaker 1>can't broadcast live from the event, but I will be recording.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be talking to people and then when I get back,

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<v Speaker 1>I will put something together so that Unfortunately, if you

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<v Speaker 1>can't make Sailing Fest, then at least you can listen

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<v Speaker 1>to the podcast and get a flavor of it. So

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<v Speaker 1>I will be doing that. So Chad, I can't wait

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<v Speaker 1>to see you. Man, can't wait to see you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, same here, and I'm looking forward to it. It's

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<v Speaker 2>hard to believe it's only a few weeks away, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to be a great time and I look

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<v Speaker 2>forward to seeing everyone. And you've also got an Instagram

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<v Speaker 2>thing right.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the main Twilight Zone podcast Instagram. There'll be stuff

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<v Speaker 1>on there now. I did set one up as well

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<v Speaker 1>for people on Patreon. So if you're a patron, then

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<v Speaker 1>hit me up and I will send you the link

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<v Speaker 1>to that one as well. But yeah, it's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>all over the place. There's gonna probably be a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit on you know, Twitter. I don't really use Twitter

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<v Speaker 1>that much anymore, but you know, maybe the occasional picture,

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<v Speaker 1>but the Twilight Zone podcast. Instagram is probably the place

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<v Speaker 1>to go, and you know, and things like that or

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<v Speaker 1>other Patreon. I'll be putting a few things on there

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<v Speaker 1>as well. So thanks for joining me, Chad. It's been

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<v Speaker 1>a pleasure.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely thanks for having me on. Look forward to seeing

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<v Speaker 2>you in a few weeks and this is gonna be fantastic.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll speak to you all on the other side.

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<v Speaker 2>Bye for now.