WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.280 --> 00:00:00.960 Syphilis. 2 00:00:00.960 --> 00:00:03.160 Well they always say I think, like you're supposed to 3 00:00:03.200 --> 00:00:05.919 say sibilants, like is the Oh yeah, it's like that 4 00:00:06.080 --> 00:00:07.599 was like the always the thing back in the day. 5 00:00:07.599 --> 00:00:10.080 He'd say sibilants, but I always said syphilis because I 6 00:00:10.080 --> 00:00:10.839 thought it was funnier. 7 00:00:10.960 --> 00:00:14.279 Yeah, you know what's funny is uh. I would I 8 00:00:14.320 --> 00:00:16.199 was in drama club in school and all like I 9 00:00:16.280 --> 00:00:18.399 was not good, Like I just was doing it because 10 00:00:18.399 --> 00:00:19.600 I liked the girls. 11 00:00:19.679 --> 00:00:22.960 And well that's why we do anything, yeah, exactly. 12 00:00:23.239 --> 00:00:26.679 And they all had like they're very pretentious, like Mama 13 00:00:26.679 --> 00:00:28.800 made me mash my in. They're they're all doing their 14 00:00:28.839 --> 00:00:30.719 things right, and so I'd just be staying there and 15 00:00:30.760 --> 00:00:33.000 i'd be like warming up nex to someone named Stacy. 16 00:00:33.079 --> 00:00:37.679 I'd be like, Stacy, Stacy, you're an asshole, Stacy. 17 00:00:41.479 --> 00:00:41.880 I was. 18 00:00:44.079 --> 00:00:46.240 Very funny at the time. I don't know how it tracks. 19 00:00:46.240 --> 00:00:49.159 And there is an SNL sketch which I don't know 20 00:00:49.159 --> 00:00:51.439 if I've told you about, but the gist of it 21 00:00:51.560 --> 00:00:53.679 was this guy gets mugged and he's got to watch 22 00:00:53.719 --> 00:00:56.359 this police lineup, you know, and he's got to pick 23 00:00:56.399 --> 00:00:59.719 out the correct mugger. But the mugging happened right outside 24 00:00:59.799 --> 00:01:04.359 some repertory players theater where it's all these like struggling actors. 25 00:01:04.719 --> 00:01:07.519 So then these actors come into the police lineup and 26 00:01:07.560 --> 00:01:11.040 they read it like as an audition, like their audition. 27 00:01:11.640 --> 00:01:13.959 It's so good. 28 00:01:13.079 --> 00:01:16.439 And Kyle Moodey is one of them. He's like he 29 00:01:16.480 --> 00:01:18.400 does it and he's like, oh, that was so flat. 30 00:01:18.439 --> 00:01:21.200 And the guy's like, oh, come on, you know, just 31 00:01:21.200 --> 00:01:23.040 just shake it off. You get fire off a few 32 00:01:23.120 --> 00:01:26.439 verbal arrows. So then Kyle Moody is like fake firing 33 00:01:26.480 --> 00:01:32.560 off airs and goes, I mean, it was awesome, it 34 00:01:32.640 --> 00:01:33.560 was fantastic. 35 00:01:34.200 --> 00:01:39.719 I freaking love that. Yeah, they're good. That's uh god, 36 00:01:39.760 --> 00:01:41.840 I wish I could be that creative all the time. 37 00:01:42.359 --> 00:01:45.680 But the smoke more weed, Yeah, clear, that's what it does, clearly. 38 00:01:46.719 --> 00:01:51.079 But all right, onto the new world of horror here, Bulky, 39 00:01:51.319 --> 00:01:54.040 And why do you call it the new world of horror? 40 00:01:54.439 --> 00:01:57.439 Because I have a feeling that Hollywood is going to 41 00:01:57.519 --> 00:02:00.799 learn all the wrong lessons from these those two recent 42 00:02:00.879 --> 00:02:05.000 horror releases surrounding how to hire directors and what goes 43 00:02:05.040 --> 00:02:07.000 into making a good movie. And I have a feeling 44 00:02:07.040 --> 00:02:09.039 we're gonna see a lot of copycats in the next 45 00:02:09.080 --> 00:02:09.639 two to forty. 46 00:02:09.639 --> 00:02:12.360 Okay, when you're talking about these two new horror movies, 47 00:02:12.479 --> 00:02:14.680 or by the way, are we recording, Yeah, okay, we're 48 00:02:14.719 --> 00:02:16.120 talking about Obsession and background. 49 00:02:16.199 --> 00:02:17.520 Yeah, we're doing Obsession today. 50 00:02:17.639 --> 00:02:22.680 So okay. Granted, yes, copycat, I understand it has a 51 00:02:22.800 --> 00:02:26.479 negative connotation, but those movies were good. 52 00:02:26.639 --> 00:02:30.680 Oh absolutely absolutely. My point is go back to nineteen 53 00:02:30.879 --> 00:02:34.759 eighty and look at how many space movies came out 54 00:02:34.800 --> 00:02:38.599 because Star Wars hit it big in seventy nine, But 55 00:02:38.719 --> 00:02:42.439 in reality, it wasn't the fact that it was in 56 00:02:42.520 --> 00:02:45.439 space that made Star Wars cool. It was the characters 57 00:02:45.479 --> 00:02:48.319 and the lightsabers and the universe and the character building 58 00:02:48.400 --> 00:02:51.159 and all these different stories. And the Hollywood saw that 59 00:02:51.280 --> 00:02:54.199 was like these cretans like space, put more movies in space. 60 00:02:54.280 --> 00:02:57.240 And there's like seven thousand movies that you've never heard 61 00:02:57.240 --> 00:02:59.840 of that all took place in space between like nineteen 62 00:02:59.840 --> 00:03:01.000 eight in nineteen eighty two. 63 00:03:01.680 --> 00:03:03.919 So you saw Argo, right, Yeah, So that was based 64 00:03:03.960 --> 00:03:06.479 on a real Hollywood script that just hadn't been made, 65 00:03:06.520 --> 00:03:09.039 I believe. So so Argo would have come out, I 66 00:03:09.039 --> 00:03:11.800 mean it was already written and came up like ready 67 00:03:11.800 --> 00:03:13.520 to go, and then Star Wars came. 68 00:03:13.360 --> 00:03:16.000 Out right wait, what do you What does Argo have 69 00:03:16.039 --> 00:03:16.639 to Argo? 70 00:03:17.080 --> 00:03:19.960 Was the fake film they used in Argo? Like whatever? 71 00:03:20.159 --> 00:03:20.439 Oh? 72 00:03:20.479 --> 00:03:22.520 Oh oh yeah, so that was a script that the 73 00:03:22.560 --> 00:03:24.080 movie just hadn't been yet. 74 00:03:24.159 --> 00:03:24.479 Yees. 75 00:03:24.680 --> 00:03:27.919 So then after Star Wars happened, I guess they couldn't 76 00:03:27.919 --> 00:03:31.439 capitalize it because they had it was a sealed document yeah, 77 00:03:31.599 --> 00:03:34.719 by Jimmy Carter that they couldn't like. Well, I guess 78 00:03:34.719 --> 00:03:37.000 we lost out on this one. We helped the government, 79 00:03:37.000 --> 00:03:38.599 so Argo could have been a lot bigger. 80 00:03:38.840 --> 00:03:41.319 They could have, yeah, if it had fallen that way. 81 00:03:41.360 --> 00:03:43.120 But I have a feeling you're going to see a 82 00:03:43.159 --> 00:03:45.960 bunch of twenty somethings. And I'm not against any of 83 00:03:45.960 --> 00:03:47.719 this for the record, as long as they take it 84 00:03:47.800 --> 00:03:50.199 seriously and try and capitalize on the effort. But I 85 00:03:50.240 --> 00:03:52.919 have a feeling you're going to see a lot of 86 00:03:52.960 --> 00:03:56.360 people trying to emulate the parts. Oh they got they 87 00:03:56.400 --> 00:03:58.560 made eighty million dollars on a seven hundred and fifty 88 00:03:58.560 --> 00:04:01.039 thousand dollars budget. Let's do that again, and like it's 89 00:04:01.159 --> 00:04:02.319 just not going to be as red. 90 00:04:02.560 --> 00:04:04.360 But that but that we were talking about this the 91 00:04:04.360 --> 00:04:07.000 other day, that's not new. I mean, people making a 92 00:04:07.039 --> 00:04:10.520 lot of money on low budget horn it is. I 93 00:04:10.599 --> 00:04:13.479 mean that that's that's something that has been you know, 94 00:04:13.560 --> 00:04:15.319 I don't know, you tell me twenty thirty years. 95 00:04:15.400 --> 00:04:17.800 I actually saw a Twitter post that even said as much, 96 00:04:17.839 --> 00:04:19.439 and I wish I knew the name. I would I 97 00:04:19.439 --> 00:04:21.399 would give credit where credits due here, but I don't 98 00:04:21.399 --> 00:04:23.160 have it in front of me. And they because someone 99 00:04:23.199 --> 00:04:26.759 said this is unprecedented, and it shows the budgets for 100 00:04:26.800 --> 00:04:30.000 the two movies, and then the the take Home does 101 00:04:30.040 --> 00:04:32.879 far and then somebody retweets it and says, actually, this 102 00:04:32.959 --> 00:04:35.439 happens about once every ten years, and no one ever 103 00:04:35.560 --> 00:04:38.040 learns the right lessons when it happens. 104 00:04:38.120 --> 00:04:40.560 And then, well, what's the right lesson to learn from 105 00:04:40.600 --> 00:04:43.920 a film like Obsession? Because obviously you want to give 106 00:04:43.920 --> 00:04:46.360 a pathway to a young and up and coming director, 107 00:04:46.800 --> 00:04:49.879 right yeah, that that that's the idea, Yeah, right, They 108 00:04:50.680 --> 00:04:52.920 that specific director, which I'm gonna look it up in 109 00:04:52.920 --> 00:04:56.959 a second here, executed a pretty good movie, pretty good film, 110 00:04:57.399 --> 00:04:59.920 and made a lot of money off of it, right yeah, 111 00:05:00.120 --> 00:05:01.439 So what's the correct lesson? 112 00:05:01.480 --> 00:05:01.600 Then? 113 00:05:01.720 --> 00:05:03.600 I mean, why why wouldn't you want to try to 114 00:05:03.680 --> 00:05:05.000 duplicate what has worked? 115 00:05:05.040 --> 00:05:06.800 So if you if you asked me, what the lesson 116 00:05:06.800 --> 00:05:09.639 from that moment is it's not necessarily the director as 117 00:05:09.720 --> 00:05:12.839 much as it is indeed Navaret or however you say 118 00:05:12.839 --> 00:05:13.240 her name. 119 00:05:13.240 --> 00:05:16.120 Hold on, she was the star. Yeah, so she also directed. 120 00:05:16.240 --> 00:05:19.240 No no, no, no, no, I'm saying outside of the director. 121 00:05:19.240 --> 00:05:21.000 I think I might have have finished a thought that 122 00:05:21.160 --> 00:05:25.560 and he never ready. Yes, she I believe that her 123 00:05:25.600 --> 00:05:30.279 performance felt so unique because we've never seen her before, 124 00:05:30.360 --> 00:05:32.920 and she was well cast in some stuff. But I mean, 125 00:05:33.000 --> 00:05:35.079 like in the in the grand scheme of things, this 126 00:05:35.160 --> 00:05:37.600 is the first thing that I truly remember having seen her. 127 00:05:37.639 --> 00:05:39.759 And if you asked me, because I'll be really funky 128 00:05:39.759 --> 00:05:43.399 and you're kind of teaming up for this, I have 129 00:05:43.519 --> 00:05:47.800 this movie in the in the Quiet Place category for 130 00:05:47.879 --> 00:05:50.199 ben Okay, amazing. I think it was a very well 131 00:05:50.199 --> 00:05:53.360 made movie. I understand why it's so commercially successful. I 132 00:05:53.399 --> 00:05:58.800 was like, oh, I've seen this before, it before, Yeah. 133 00:05:58.439 --> 00:05:59.879 I mean, like, what what would you compare it to 134 00:06:00.959 --> 00:06:04.519 that you have seen The Monkeys Paw, which I never saw. 135 00:06:04.720 --> 00:06:07.199 Yeah, wish Master from the late nineties. 136 00:06:07.319 --> 00:06:10.240 Okay, And by the way, so we're talking about obsession, 137 00:06:10.279 --> 00:06:11.879 I should just tell everybody right now, the gist of 138 00:06:11.879 --> 00:06:15.560 this movie is this guy makes this wish okay with 139 00:06:15.639 --> 00:06:18.480 this supernatural toy that he buys to get his I 140 00:06:18.480 --> 00:06:21.800 think childhood friend. Weren't they friends? Since who he has 141 00:06:21.839 --> 00:06:24.480 a huge crush on. He's trying. He said he wishes 142 00:06:24.519 --> 00:06:27.879 for her to fall in love with him. And obviously, 143 00:06:28.879 --> 00:06:31.759 on the surface, that seems fine and innocent, and certainly 144 00:06:31.839 --> 00:06:33.879 part of the movie would dictate that. But it's a 145 00:06:33.920 --> 00:06:36.959 horror ben, yeah, and there's always unintended consequences. 146 00:06:37.000 --> 00:06:40.199 And just to be clear so that everyone listening understands this, 147 00:06:40.199 --> 00:06:42.399 this is my favorite kind of movie. 148 00:06:42.800 --> 00:06:45.000 When you say favorite kind, you be careful what you 149 00:06:45.040 --> 00:06:46.399 wish for movies. 150 00:06:46.639 --> 00:06:49.079 I grew up playing a twisted metal where like, once 151 00:06:49.120 --> 00:06:51.000 you would beat the game, you got to wish for something, 152 00:06:51.040 --> 00:06:53.079 and there's a guy named Calypso who would grant it, 153 00:06:53.079 --> 00:06:54.560 but he'd only screw with you, and you'd be like, 154 00:06:54.600 --> 00:06:56.240 I want to be the best, to be like, oh, 155 00:06:56.360 --> 00:06:57.920 you want to be the best? He turned into a 156 00:06:57.920 --> 00:07:01.040 beat or something, you know what I mean? Like, I 157 00:07:01.079 --> 00:07:03.000 love that. I love that. Wish Master is a West 158 00:07:03.040 --> 00:07:03.839 Craven movie. 159 00:07:03.600 --> 00:07:05.959 From that time that's like Twilight Zone stuff. 160 00:07:06.040 --> 00:07:08.120 Yeah, Like I love that. It's Tales from the Crypt 161 00:07:08.120 --> 00:07:10.279 it's Twilight Zone like that is if you want to. 162 00:07:10.319 --> 00:07:13.279 That's why this was, in my opinion, a lot more 163 00:07:13.319 --> 00:07:15.240 generic than I think a lot of people who don't 164 00:07:15.319 --> 00:07:18.920 normally watch horror realize. But I still thoroughly enjoyed it 165 00:07:18.920 --> 00:07:21.279 because it's very difficult to make them be careful what 166 00:07:21.319 --> 00:07:23.879 you wish for a movie where I was like, nah, like, 167 00:07:23.920 --> 00:07:26.399 not only do I like wish Master, I like wish Master. 168 00:07:26.560 --> 00:07:30.279 For god, I didn't even realize wish Master, Yeah, the only. 169 00:07:30.160 --> 00:07:32.680 The first one was a West Craven movie, but the 170 00:07:32.720 --> 00:07:37.319 rest of them drop off tremendously in quality. But nevertheless, 171 00:07:37.399 --> 00:07:40.839 these are very much in my wheelhouse for the kind 172 00:07:40.839 --> 00:07:42.519 of thing that I will like. But I made the 173 00:07:42.519 --> 00:07:47.759 comparison to my friend when Squid Games came out, I 174 00:07:47.800 --> 00:07:51.680 had already seen Battle Royale and the Belco Experiment and 175 00:07:51.720 --> 00:07:53.600 all these other things that were squid games. 176 00:07:53.759 --> 00:07:54.800 What was Battle Royale? 177 00:07:54.959 --> 00:07:57.240 It was a It was a Japanese movie, from the 178 00:07:57.959 --> 00:08:01.519 Squid Game was Korean, Yes, okay, And they all had 179 00:08:01.519 --> 00:08:03.680 a similar concept though at the end of the day 180 00:08:03.759 --> 00:08:07.240 executed differently, but a very similar premise. And so I 181 00:08:07.279 --> 00:08:10.399 got Covid when Squid Games happened, and so I watched 182 00:08:10.399 --> 00:08:12.759 it while I was quarantined for two weeks and like 183 00:08:12.800 --> 00:08:15.279 the throes of COVID, and I came out of my 184 00:08:15.519 --> 00:08:18.199 quarantine and I come out to a world where everybody 185 00:08:18.199 --> 00:08:20.319 has seen squid games and thinks it's the best thing 186 00:08:20.360 --> 00:08:22.639 they've ever seen. And I was like, first of all, 187 00:08:22.680 --> 00:08:24.600 why are you all watching this? Second of all, I 188 00:08:24.639 --> 00:08:26.839 could introduce you to five other things that were more 189 00:08:26.879 --> 00:08:29.199 interesting than this if this is what you enjoyed. And 190 00:08:29.240 --> 00:08:30.519 that was kind of how. 191 00:08:30.519 --> 00:08:33.120 The squid game come out during the pandemic. Yeah, okay, 192 00:08:33.200 --> 00:08:35.000 well that's then there's your answer, right. 193 00:08:35.360 --> 00:08:37.240 Because everybody was watching everything. 194 00:08:37.000 --> 00:08:40.519 World would Tiger King reach popular? 195 00:08:40.679 --> 00:08:41.399 That's a good point. 196 00:08:41.480 --> 00:08:45.639 There's nobody talks to everybody talked about the Last Dance, 197 00:08:45.799 --> 00:08:48.879 the Chicago Bulls thing that that came out during the pandemic. 198 00:08:49.279 --> 00:08:51.320 When's last time you heard anybody talk about that. That's 199 00:08:51.320 --> 00:08:52.799 a good point, you know what I mean. It's just like, 200 00:08:52.879 --> 00:08:53.840 now we have our lives. 201 00:08:54.000 --> 00:08:54.720 That's a good point. 202 00:08:54.840 --> 00:08:57.399 So so I think, and and and by the way, 203 00:08:58.159 --> 00:09:02.399 not to like I mean, this is going to sound derogatory, 204 00:09:02.399 --> 00:09:04.600 but it's not. You watch a lot of weird stuff 205 00:09:04.679 --> 00:09:07.279 I do, so and and a lot of obscure stuff 206 00:09:07.279 --> 00:09:09.519 that most people like ninety five percent of people. 207 00:09:09.799 --> 00:09:12.000 I sent Bulky a text yesterday, I said, have you 208 00:09:12.000 --> 00:09:15.200 ever seen this nineteen ninety nine Canadian indo film Cube. 209 00:09:15.200 --> 00:09:16.159 It's great? Cube. 210 00:09:16.240 --> 00:09:18.600 Yeah, it's just Cube. Okay, there's three of them. One 211 00:09:18.639 --> 00:09:19.360 to three are great. 212 00:09:20.279 --> 00:09:22.000 See not only do you see the weird ones, you 213 00:09:22.039 --> 00:09:24.240 see the sequels to the weird ones. 214 00:09:24.519 --> 00:09:27.600 But so, I mean I I thoroughly did enjoy this 215 00:09:27.679 --> 00:09:29.200 movie though, and like we're going to get into all 216 00:09:29.200 --> 00:09:31.120 the different elements here in just a second, but I 217 00:09:31.159 --> 00:09:33.960 will say this is one of those ones where I 218 00:09:34.000 --> 00:09:36.480 wonder if the if the Internet isn't helping this like 219 00:09:37.399 --> 00:09:40.080 foster the excitement along a little bit here, and that 220 00:09:40.559 --> 00:09:41.000 was good. 221 00:09:41.080 --> 00:09:44.240 That's that's why or that's how the Quiet Place comparison 222 00:09:44.279 --> 00:09:44.600 comes out. 223 00:09:44.759 --> 00:09:47.120 Yeah, Quiet Place. I was like, I've seen stuff like this. 224 00:09:47.120 --> 00:09:50.480 This is fun, it's not revolutionary, you're transcendent. It's good 225 00:09:50.519 --> 00:09:53.320 act and that one actually had recognizable faces in it, 226 00:09:53.840 --> 00:09:56.559 and you're like, yeah, this is good. There's exciting moments, 227 00:09:56.600 --> 00:09:59.879 but like yeah, like I'm like, I've seen this before, 228 00:10:00.120 --> 00:10:02.240 and like that was kind of how I felt with this, 229 00:10:02.399 --> 00:10:05.159 even though again that doesn't mean I'm not gonna like it, 230 00:10:05.240 --> 00:10:07.879 because yeah, plenty of stuff copies off of other stuff. 231 00:10:07.919 --> 00:10:11.120 But it's definitely if you have seen a be careful 232 00:10:11.360 --> 00:10:13.600 what you wish for a style movie in the past, 233 00:10:13.960 --> 00:10:16.879 you have seen this movie. Yeah, that that That's basically 234 00:10:16.919 --> 00:10:17.879 what I'm trying to get at it. 235 00:10:18.000 --> 00:10:20.320 I did. I mean, I just I enjoyed it all 236 00:10:20.360 --> 00:10:23.879 the way through and I feel like, you know, there 237 00:10:23.960 --> 00:10:25.799 is obviously you have to have a twist at the end, 238 00:10:25.919 --> 00:10:27.960 and you make stuff like this, and there was a 239 00:10:27.960 --> 00:10:32.399 good twist, yeah, which was cool. So okay, in regards 240 00:10:32.480 --> 00:10:36.480 to this film, let's let's let's break this down. What 241 00:10:36.679 --> 00:10:40.240 specific element do you want to talk about first when 242 00:10:40.240 --> 00:10:42.240 it comes to this, Otherwise I have something in mind. 243 00:10:43.000 --> 00:10:43.600 Do you take the lead? 244 00:10:43.600 --> 00:10:46.440 I've been talking let's talk casting. Yeah, okay, so because 245 00:10:46.440 --> 00:10:47.840 I always like to talk about the cast and the 246 00:10:47.879 --> 00:10:50.840 actors and whatever. Now I was mentioning I told this 247 00:10:50.919 --> 00:10:54.919 to you on on the air, the casting of the 248 00:10:54.960 --> 00:10:59.200 protagonist in this film. His name was like Michael Johnston. 249 00:10:59.279 --> 00:11:06.200 Michael Johnston, Okay, he is a music store employee. By 250 00:11:06.200 --> 00:11:07.639 the way, did you recognize Andy Richter? 251 00:11:07.919 --> 00:11:08.120 Yeah? 252 00:11:08.200 --> 00:11:12.840 Okay, Yeah, lost a lot of weight. He's this music 253 00:11:12.840 --> 00:11:16.080 store employee who works with his friends, you know, at 254 00:11:16.120 --> 00:11:19.120 this location. What would you put his age at mid twenties? 255 00:11:19.600 --> 00:11:21.000 Oh maybe I didn't even say early. 256 00:11:21.279 --> 00:11:23.960 Well they were at bars, so you know with the trivia, 257 00:11:24.000 --> 00:11:26.080 so I would assume maybe I'm just getting old. It 258 00:11:26.120 --> 00:11:30.559 happens to all of us, and he's portrayed it in him. 259 00:11:31.480 --> 00:11:34.679 You remember how Jon Favreau was in Swingers. Where is 260 00:11:34.720 --> 00:11:37.159 this kind of this beta? And finally Heather Graham just 261 00:11:37.240 --> 00:11:39.799 has it with him, like you know, cause he's kind 262 00:11:39.799 --> 00:11:42.559 of like dancing around trying to ask her out without 263 00:11:42.679 --> 00:11:44.639 not asking her out and doesn't want to get shut down, 264 00:11:44.679 --> 00:11:47.559 you know, because you're rejection and it just creates there's 265 00:11:47.559 --> 00:11:49.639 like no confidence. Like every woman will tell you one 266 00:11:49.639 --> 00:11:52.799 of the things that they're most attracted to is confidence, right, 267 00:11:52.960 --> 00:11:58.039 and this guy in this movie had zero, you know. Basically, 268 00:11:58.519 --> 00:12:01.840 instead of like telling her how he felt or whatever, 269 00:12:02.120 --> 00:12:05.679 he'd much rather do the wishing willow or the willow 270 00:12:05.799 --> 00:12:08.080 is that what it's called wishing willow. He'd much rather 271 00:12:08.120 --> 00:12:16.440 grab that and try to use supernatural forces to have 272 00:12:16.559 --> 00:12:21.559 this woman fall in love with him. Right, His face 273 00:12:22.120 --> 00:12:26.200 is very punishable, he's very annoying. And I feel like 274 00:12:26.279 --> 00:12:29.320 the casting like nailed this and as well as his 275 00:12:29.360 --> 00:12:32.279 execution of how he's supposed to play this character, because 276 00:12:32.639 --> 00:12:34.960 I think to a certain point you feel sorry for 277 00:12:35.039 --> 00:12:36.919 him or you can connect with him, and then I 278 00:12:37.000 --> 00:12:38.399 just kind of got annoyed with it. 279 00:12:38.480 --> 00:12:40.759 I hated him basically the whole the whole time. Yeah, 280 00:12:41.200 --> 00:12:45.200 are you online enough to be familiar with the term inceell? No, Yeah, 281 00:12:45.320 --> 00:12:47.080 so I've heard of that. I don't know that's what 282 00:12:47.120 --> 00:12:49.480 he is. It's one of those kind of dudes that 283 00:12:49.639 --> 00:12:52.799 like blames the women for not being into him while 284 00:12:52.840 --> 00:12:54.720 he's not shooting his shots or. 285 00:12:55.639 --> 00:12:58.320 Okay, I can't get I don't find him as being 286 00:12:58.320 --> 00:13:01.000 an inceel then, because I don't, I don't feel like 287 00:13:01.080 --> 00:13:03.480 he you know, there's plenty of times where he was 288 00:13:03.480 --> 00:13:06.200 by himself. I don't feel like he felt personally wronged 289 00:13:06.480 --> 00:13:09.080 by females or whatever, you know, where he harbored this 290 00:13:09.240 --> 00:13:13.000 resentment to him. I just think that this guy was 291 00:13:13.200 --> 00:13:16.200 so much of a woos that he couldn't muster up one. 292 00:13:16.240 --> 00:13:19.039 And I know it's a difficult question, but but to 293 00:13:19.440 --> 00:13:24.960 choose the path that he did was not mind boggling, 294 00:13:25.000 --> 00:13:29.879 but annoying. And just his facial expressions and the way 295 00:13:29.919 --> 00:13:31.080 he played the character. 296 00:13:31.159 --> 00:13:32.600 Oh yeah, it was just. 297 00:13:32.679 --> 00:13:34.720 So so great, so great. 298 00:13:34.799 --> 00:13:37.279 That's what stuck out to me with both of them. Actually, 299 00:13:37.360 --> 00:13:40.960 I believe when you say both of them, h never Ready, 300 00:13:42.240 --> 00:13:46.759 never Ready. Yeah, I think I'll say this, and I 301 00:13:46.759 --> 00:13:48.240 don't know if he agree with me or not, but 302 00:13:48.320 --> 00:13:50.919 my opinion, the best physical actor of our lifetime is 303 00:13:51.000 --> 00:13:54.919 Jim Carrey. Like I thought, he was very face to 304 00:13:55.360 --> 00:13:58.679 do things. I think Indian Never Ready is not second, 305 00:13:58.759 --> 00:14:02.480 but one of the best physical performances I have ever 306 00:14:02.559 --> 00:14:07.440 seen in my life. It genuinely felt like at moments 307 00:14:07.519 --> 00:14:10.639 she really was like an animatronic that was like trying 308 00:14:10.720 --> 00:14:13.440 to go a different direction than the way her limbs 309 00:14:13.440 --> 00:14:16.080 were going in a way that I have never seen before, 310 00:14:16.120 --> 00:14:20.639 And it was incredibly uncanny and unsettling watching that happen. 311 00:14:21.840 --> 00:14:24.159 In a way that I have reviews for the performance, I. 312 00:14:24.080 --> 00:14:27.440 Thoroughly enjoyed it, and I noticed Michael Johnston's face as well. 313 00:14:27.519 --> 00:14:30.720 The physical performances of both leads stuck out to me 314 00:14:30.840 --> 00:14:34.200 the entire movie in a very positive way. I think 315 00:14:34.200 --> 00:14:36.480 it did a really good job of a kind of 316 00:14:36.559 --> 00:14:40.240 conveying a lot of things that words could convey. They 317 00:14:40.279 --> 00:14:42.000 could have put it into words, but I think doing 318 00:14:42.039 --> 00:14:45.000 it that way is what probably the most unique part 319 00:14:45.039 --> 00:14:47.960 about this movie was that part. Especially you'll know it 320 00:14:48.000 --> 00:14:49.679 when you see it. If I just say the walking 321 00:14:49.720 --> 00:14:51.639 backwards part, you'll know it when you see it. It 322 00:14:51.679 --> 00:14:55.080 doesn't sound like it's anything right now, the walking backwards part, Yeah, 323 00:14:55.120 --> 00:14:57.440 where like she's walking I don't want to say it, 324 00:14:58.200 --> 00:15:02.960 where are they when she's walking at the and she's 325 00:15:03.000 --> 00:15:04.799 walking backwards but it looks like she wants to go 326 00:15:04.840 --> 00:15:05.679 a different direction. 327 00:15:06.320 --> 00:15:08.480 And I don't remember this part? Is this is this 328 00:15:08.519 --> 00:15:09.639 when they're playing the game? 329 00:15:10.159 --> 00:15:12.600 Yeah, I'm telling you, go on, if you get a 330 00:15:12.679 --> 00:15:15.720 chance out, watch it again. And uh, I like, once 331 00:15:15.799 --> 00:15:17.519 it's streamable and you'll be like, oh, I said, I 332 00:15:17.559 --> 00:15:18.519 didn't even notice this the. 333 00:15:18.440 --> 00:15:20.440 First Well you know what I did notice about that, Yeah, 334 00:15:20.559 --> 00:15:24.320 was the camera shot that that was on Michael Johnson. 335 00:15:24.360 --> 00:15:26.360 And then who's the other was it Amber or I 336 00:15:26.360 --> 00:15:30.639 can't remember Sarah? Yeah, where it's it's set on them, 337 00:15:31.200 --> 00:15:33.519 and you know, with what's going on in that shot, 338 00:15:33.600 --> 00:15:36.399 there's something that you really want to see and then 339 00:15:36.399 --> 00:15:39.000 all of a sudden, slowly you're getting you know, kind 340 00:15:39.039 --> 00:15:39.759 of like that was. 341 00:15:39.799 --> 00:15:41.200 It was a cool shot. I don't remember the walking 342 00:15:41.240 --> 00:15:44.919 backwards part. Oh yeah, because it wasn't necessarily subtle, but 343 00:15:45.039 --> 00:15:47.759 the way she was doing it, there were subtle nuances 344 00:15:47.759 --> 00:15:49.559 to it. I'm like, oh, this is creepy, and you 345 00:15:49.600 --> 00:15:53.240 could tell it was reminiscent. I found myself thinking of 346 00:15:53.279 --> 00:15:56.120 the sunken place a lot and get out, like, you know, 347 00:15:56.679 --> 00:15:59.519 this entity is in her, but she's still there. She 348 00:15:59.679 --> 00:16:01.639 just is controlling the wheel anymore. 349 00:16:02.200 --> 00:16:05.120 And it's tough because I struggled with that concept in 350 00:16:05.159 --> 00:16:08.120 this movie. Yeah, because because I was like, Okay, she's there, 351 00:16:08.200 --> 00:16:11.320 but then something happens. They're like, wait, maybe she's not there. Yeah, 352 00:16:11.320 --> 00:16:12.120 but then she's there. 353 00:16:12.159 --> 00:16:15.480 I didn't know. I'm not seeing it out I'm talking 354 00:16:15.519 --> 00:16:19.759 about obsession, but I'm saying they they conceptualized that in 355 00:16:19.799 --> 00:16:22.559 such a way when he like almost falls into the 356 00:16:22.639 --> 00:16:24.720 chair and all of a sudden, the camera you can 357 00:16:24.799 --> 00:16:27.440 see through the main dude's eyes and he's like almost 358 00:16:28.600 --> 00:16:30.399 and he's there, but he can't do anything. That's how 359 00:16:30.480 --> 00:16:33.320 I was envisioning it the whole movie, that that's the 360 00:16:33.399 --> 00:16:33.879 best thing I. 361 00:16:33.799 --> 00:16:36.480 Can do, which is we didn't see that would have 362 00:16:36.480 --> 00:16:40.240 probably helped me understand obsession better. If I would have 363 00:16:40.240 --> 00:16:43.080 made that comparison, yeah, but I never did because I 364 00:16:43.120 --> 00:16:44.679 was like, what the hell is going on with her? 365 00:16:44.879 --> 00:16:45.080 Yeah? 366 00:16:45.240 --> 00:16:47.559 Sure, And I think we've talked about this. I know 367 00:16:47.600 --> 00:16:50.399 we talked about it with It's What's Inside. We've talked 368 00:16:50.440 --> 00:16:52.440 about this with one of the other movies that we 369 00:16:52.600 --> 00:16:56.279 just watched, and I can't remember which one it was, 370 00:16:56.639 --> 00:17:00.759 But how fun it is for us to watch actors 371 00:17:00.799 --> 00:17:05.200 and probably fun for the actors themselves essentially play two characters. Yeah, 372 00:17:05.680 --> 00:17:08.680 in the same movie, but it's still in the same 373 00:17:08.720 --> 00:17:12.000 sort of body, the same presentation, you know what I mean. Sure, 374 00:17:12.559 --> 00:17:14.960 and we saw that from Indian avaready in this movie. 375 00:17:14.960 --> 00:17:16.440 What was her name in the film? 376 00:17:16.880 --> 00:17:18.920 Hold on? I just brought it down Nicky. 377 00:17:18.799 --> 00:17:23.119 Nicky, Yeah, that's right. By the way, she's twenty five 378 00:17:23.160 --> 00:17:25.640 years old. We can weigh in on this, Okay, where 379 00:17:25.680 --> 00:17:27.079 is she on your attractive scale? 380 00:17:27.359 --> 00:17:30.200 And he never well, see because so much of the 381 00:17:30.279 --> 00:17:34.039 movie she's in the Uncanny Valley by design. I'm not 382 00:17:34.079 --> 00:17:35.559 saying that's the way she is all the time. I 383 00:17:35.559 --> 00:17:39.039 think she's a very attractive woman traditionally. So we agree, Yeah, oh, 384 00:17:39.079 --> 00:17:40.960 get out of here. I was expecting you to tell 385 00:17:41.000 --> 00:17:43.960 me she's what's your name, al Ali Alison Williams. 386 00:17:44.240 --> 00:17:48.519 That's not yeah, I mean, listen, I respect your opinion, 387 00:17:48.559 --> 00:17:51.759 but I'm near gonna be to say that she's an 388 00:17:51.759 --> 00:17:54.279 attractive woman, which is wild because you know what, if 389 00:17:54.279 --> 00:17:56.279 I had the chance, I would still date her, of course, 390 00:17:56.319 --> 00:17:57.079 and go out with her. 391 00:17:57.720 --> 00:17:58.839 That's always the case. 392 00:17:58.640 --> 00:18:00.799 And i'd probably tell her that too, like and maybe 393 00:18:01.039 --> 00:18:03.480 maybe that's like because everybody I think. 394 00:18:03.400 --> 00:18:05.680 You're attractive, but if you're interested in dating, I would 395 00:18:05.759 --> 00:18:06.400 give you a shot. 396 00:18:06.559 --> 00:18:08.640 Everybody else tells her she's attractive. I'm the one guy 397 00:18:08.680 --> 00:18:11.240 saying that, so, like, you know what, there's something to 398 00:18:11.279 --> 00:18:11.640 this bar. 399 00:18:12.240 --> 00:18:15.079 Yeah, that's the guy. But uh yeah, And so I 400 00:18:15.119 --> 00:18:17.480 heard you're talking about them having fun, watching them do 401 00:18:18.200 --> 00:18:22.000