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Speaker 5: Stone, welcome you to the podcast Range Proof.
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Speaker 6: Welcome back to the show. Everybody, welcome back. I'm your host,
Speaker 6: Tom Kat aka Tom Thompson though Raptilian, and I am
Speaker 6: here with a very special guest.
Speaker 3: I'm really excited for this, Joy Baker.
Speaker 6: Do you want to introduce yourself to the host heads
Speaker 6: as we call them. I'm sure you'll appreciate that being Canadian.
Speaker 5: Yeah, sure, so well I'm not sure where to start, Okay,
Speaker 5: So I guess I've been on the path. You know,
Speaker 5: they're doing innerword personal growth for about thirty years. He
Speaker 5: used to work with horses, show horses for ten years,
Speaker 5: trained race horses for fifteen years, and love the horses,
Speaker 5: still miss them, but found, you know, there had to
Speaker 5: be more to life. I was looking for something else
Speaker 5: and stumbled along personal growth and started finding out.
Speaker 4: The power of the mind.
Speaker 5: And and then I started getting into energy work. And
Speaker 5: I didn't know that, you know, the beliefs, like I
Speaker 5: didn't know we were kept in that structure and limited
Speaker 5: and such, and until I started learning about it, started
Speaker 5: waking up. And it's been thirty years of waking up
Speaker 5: and doing inner work in it's really been a journey
Speaker 5: about I would say, busting through fear and stepping into
Speaker 5: my power and you know, busting through the limitations and
Speaker 5: the structures that are put upon us and living my
Speaker 5: own truth, which is a you know, it's an ongoing process.
Speaker 5: But yeah, it's been an interesting journey. And mostly like
Speaker 5: I do energy work now, follow my intuition, do a
Speaker 5: lot of I do clearings, readings, you know whatever, or
Speaker 5: go what we what we do is we go right
Speaker 5: deep and we me and my guys, we go deep
Speaker 5: into the unconscious conditioning because ninety five percent of who
Speaker 5: we are, our thoughts, bleefs, emotions, behaviors, what we believe
Speaker 5: about stuff is ninety five percent is unconscious. Only five percent,
Speaker 5: as we actually go through the day and interact with
Speaker 5: others and make decisions and behaviors and such, it is
Speaker 5: only five percent is actually conscious. So we go really
Speaker 5: deeply into that unconscious conditioning and being able to go, you.
Speaker 4: Know, deeply like that.
Speaker 5: It's if a person is stuck or they're just you know,
Speaker 5: often it's finances just stuck and something needs to be released,
Speaker 5: and you just go deeply that and you release that.
Speaker 5: Usually it's a core, core limiting belief or an emotion
Speaker 5: that's attached to that that will come up. And when
Speaker 5: that's released, then it's like the energy, just unleashing the energy,
Speaker 5: and then we just follow the stream of consciousness. So
Speaker 5: that's basically what I do and who I am.
Speaker 6: I guess that it is interesting because I've always been
Speaker 6: what you call awake. I don't like the word woke
Speaker 6: because it kind of stole that on the other side
Speaker 6: of things. But I've I've been on my own journey
Speaker 6: since a very young age. I was always anti government,
Speaker 6: like since a young kid didn't like being told what
Speaker 6: to do.
Speaker 3: It was very much against authority.
Speaker 6: And you know, I had in my own struggles and
Speaker 6: things that I went through that shaped who I am. I.
Speaker 3: You know, I got arrested when I was younger.
Speaker 6: I did a lot of dumb things, and it was
Speaker 6: my own fault, right, and I had to learn from
Speaker 6: that that, like, these are my mistakes that I've made
Speaker 6: that I need to attempt to at least try to
Speaker 6: rectify and become. My mom always said that, you know
Speaker 6: that she she wishes I didn't have to go through
Speaker 6: some of the things I did, But I'm like, I
Speaker 6: wouldn't be who I am today. I don't know if
Speaker 6: I would have this show. I don't know what who
Speaker 6: or what I would be. You know, I would be
Speaker 6: in a probably different, totally different life path. But you know,
Speaker 6: I tend to believe somewhat in the astral world will
Speaker 6: at least like.
Speaker 3: Horoscopes and stuff like that.
Speaker 6: I do think that there's a possibility that maybe we
Speaker 6: choose when we're born at specific times because it will
Speaker 6: reflect our personality. And I'm a Scorpio and if you
Speaker 6: read a score, it's like me to a T and
Speaker 6: a lot of people some people don't believe it, and
Speaker 6: some people like are skeptic obviously by some of the
Speaker 6: newspaper ones. But I do think that to some extent
Speaker 6: it is true because if you look at certain personality types,
Speaker 6: it definitely fits in a lot of that, like a
Speaker 6: Scorpio's best mate to balance them as a Pisces, that's
Speaker 6: what my wife is. And it's just interesting how the
Speaker 6: universe kind of guides that, and we caet tell a
Speaker 6: bunch of different topics. But I actually used psychedelics to
Speaker 6: help me in magic mushrooms, specifically psilocybin. It's an e
Speaker 6: strange experience to go through that stuff and actually attempt
Speaker 6: to use it as medicine. And now we're starting to
Speaker 6: understand that things like that that Mother Nature has given
Speaker 6: us have the ability to unlock these these things within
Speaker 6: our head. And you can actually do this with breathing
Speaker 6: techniques and stuff like that also, which can unlock those doors.
Speaker 6: I'm just not curious, where's your thoughts about like psychedelics, Uh.
Speaker 5: If they work for people, I mean absolutely, I'm I've
Speaker 5: never really gone down that path, and but I had
Speaker 5: a client who was you know, microdocing and really helped her,
Speaker 5: just took the edge off or calmed her down.
Speaker 4: And so yeah, if it.
Speaker 5: Supports a person, it's far better than pharmaceuticals.
Speaker 4: Yeah, dried industry and such.
Speaker 5: And you know, it's if it supports somebody, it supports
Speaker 5: their health, it supports their well being, if they're happy,
Speaker 5: if it encourages them, and if uplifts them, go for
Speaker 5: it absolutely.
Speaker 6: So yeah, when you start going down this journey, Uh,
Speaker 6: when did you have this ability thing to be able
Speaker 6: to connect to your guides? Because I felt weird things
Speaker 6: my whole life and felt like there was energies around
Speaker 6: me all the time, and times I've been on mushrooms
Speaker 6: and stuff. I especially within nature, it feels like there's
Speaker 6: presences around me that I can't explain. H So when
Speaker 6: you started to tap in this, did you use meditation
Speaker 6: and try to reach that kind of astral plane?
Speaker 5: Mainly I just fell down along come back up. I
Speaker 5: was I wasn't one of those awake ones. I was asleep.
Speaker 5: I mean I was like firmly entrenched in three D
Speaker 5: and limitation, but I didn't know it. I had no like,
Speaker 5: I didn't know it. I was just living that life
Speaker 5: and so me. It was actually when I first got
Speaker 5: into network marketing. I was introduced to it mainly because
Speaker 5: I was still on the racetrack. I wanted to buy
Speaker 5: a ranch, but I had to make a lot of money,
Speaker 5: so I was somehow introduced to network marketing and.
Speaker 4: That was the books.
Speaker 5: Through there I started finding out about the power of
Speaker 5: the mind, and I just I knew I wanted more.
Speaker 5: It wasn't it wasn't really a big revelation. It was
Speaker 5: just I did read the books Last Prophecy. That was
Speaker 5: probably around twenty eight years ago something like that, and
Speaker 5: that was when I first learned of energy fields and
Speaker 5: you know, how they interact between people, and that just
Speaker 5: really fascinated me. It was like everything made sense so
Speaker 5: or like to say, you were awake, you know, pretty
Speaker 5: much your whole life, and knew there were other you know,
Speaker 5: forms and such. Ident So hearing that news, I still
Speaker 5: remember the impact it made on me. And then I
Speaker 5: just started learning everything I could about energy and and
Speaker 5: I haven't I suppose I've probably had some really you know,
Speaker 5: crazy experiences along the way. Most of them I don't remember,
Speaker 5: but I do remember once speed in meditation around I
Speaker 5: was at twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen. One of those I was,
Speaker 5: you know, there's somebody ouse guiding the meditation.
Speaker 4: It was online and.
Speaker 5: It was supposed I think it was like forty or
Speaker 5: fifty minutes. I ended up being in meditation for at
Speaker 5: least two hours, and I met the archangels during that time,
Speaker 5: and I remember it was just so natural when I
Speaker 5: was in meditation and they're all in front of me
Speaker 5: and I can still see them, and we had a conversation,
Speaker 5: and I remember the one thing that steands out about
Speaker 5: the conversation is they were curious, like they didn't have
Speaker 5: They didn't they didn't understand our shame or why why
Speaker 5: we would feel shame, But they were curious and curious.
Speaker 5: Curiosity is a frequency and emotion of the fifth dimension
Speaker 5: and above, and so when you're curious about something, you
Speaker 5: can't be judgmental. When you're curious about something, you open
Speaker 5: up to you know, new points of view and new
Speaker 5: perspectives and such.
Speaker 4: So I just I remember that.
Speaker 5: Then there was another time I wasn't that much later
Speaker 5: when I was I was in bed, I was lying,
Speaker 5: you know, So I was in a dark room and
Speaker 5: all of a sudden, I was thinking about something. I
Speaker 5: was a wait, there was this flash of light and
Speaker 5: it was only it was just a few seconds, but
Speaker 5: if that long, maybe a second, but it lit up.
Speaker 4: The whole room and that was really really cool.
Speaker 5: And then but I was talking to somebody energy healer
Speaker 5: after that, and he said it was probably the decalcification
Speaker 5: of the pineal band opening up my third eye, and
Speaker 5: he said that can happen. So I mean, but I
Speaker 5: haven't had any really that I could remember out there things. Yeah,
Speaker 5: you know what the mainstream would call out there.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it is interesting because like I've always you know,
Speaker 6: I've messed around with maybe the darker energies more than
Speaker 6: I should have. You know a lot of the fans
Speaker 6: of the show. No, I was like a mess around
Speaker 6: the weedge board fairly young. I had a shadow people
Speaker 6: experienced everyone knows on the show where I had sleep
Speaker 6: paralysis and I could see these demonic entities around me
Speaker 6: and it scared the living shit out of me.
Speaker 3: Like it was a scary experience to have.
Speaker 6: I was only nineteen and I've always like I've danced
Speaker 6: this line where I still like I'm having a like
Speaker 6: a whiskey right now. I enjoy having a drink or
Speaker 6: two and stuff like that. In the show or try
Speaker 6: to keep these monsters at bay, and you know, they
Speaker 6: talk about.
Speaker 3: Spirits and stuff like that.
Speaker 6: It's a connection because I think that you can, even
Speaker 6: with alcohol, you can open doors to probably places that
Speaker 6: you don't want to go. But I've also found there
Speaker 6: has been times where I was, you know, under the influence,
Speaker 6: and I felt energies around me, even just with alcohol
Speaker 6: and stuff like that. And they're probably more demonic because
Speaker 6: like alcohol means alkool, which is like essentially like a demon.
Speaker 6: It's a body eating spirit. Which it's funny they do
Speaker 6: push it on the population so much of the extent
Speaker 6: that they do, especially here in Canada, like a lot
Speaker 6: of people just drink away their misery and I do
Speaker 6: it for a relaxation stuff like that, you know. But
Speaker 6: especially when my kid comes, I'm not going to really
Speaker 6: be doing any of this anymore, right so I'm going
Speaker 6: to kind of be more of a sober minded person.
Speaker 6: And I've always enjoyed smoking weed, and I think that
Speaker 6: probably is held back some of my pine eal gland
Speaker 6: and kind of being able to open that. But I
Speaker 6: really do want to start getting more into meditation and
Speaker 6: attempting to break free from that because I've done it
Speaker 6: on psilocybin. I've had my grandparents died around the same time,
Speaker 6: kind of just before COVID pretty much wing kind of
Speaker 6: COVID to hit off. My grandfather a stroke and then
Speaker 6: he went to a long term facility, and then I
Speaker 6: think my grandma just gave up and she like left,
Speaker 6: She essentially just left. She mom called me, and the
Speaker 6: weird thing is I had some intuition where Poppy was
Speaker 6: the one that was in the long term healthcare facility.
Speaker 6: But when she called me, I was like, don't tell
Speaker 6: me Nanny's dead, and it was just a weird and
Speaker 6: she was again, I had to see your body.
Speaker 3: Something that changed me forever, right.
Speaker 6: And then not after long after that, my mom's brother
Speaker 6: was addicted to drugs and then he died, and then
Speaker 6: my aunt died because she was coping with alcoholism. And
Speaker 6: when I've done psilocybin, I heard her voice say I'm here.
Speaker 6: So there's energies that you're able to reach. But I
Speaker 6: do think with meditation. It's kind of a cleaner way
Speaker 6: to do it because I've talked people that have used
Speaker 6: psilocybin for kind of being able to tap into that
Speaker 6: realm and meditate, And I've talked to like what they
Speaker 6: describe as like angels and stuff, right, And I do
Speaker 6: think if there's good, there's evil, right.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, totally.
Speaker 5: I believe in the good and the evil and that,
Speaker 5: and yeah, the dark energies, absolutely, they are there. However,
Speaker 5: when you're in fear of them, that fear will attract them.
Speaker 5: That's the very thing that attracts them. So, yes, there
Speaker 5: are dark energies. I mean, whether they're people, are their
Speaker 5: energies or their entities, Yeah, they're there.
Speaker 4: I mean you know that.
Speaker 5: That's what your show is all about. When you're Yeah,
Speaker 5: when you're in fear or you're afraid that something could happen,
Speaker 5: that's what they feed off, you know, the dark energies,
Speaker 5: whether it's people or energies, they're feeding off the fear
Speaker 5: and the dark energy and depression.
Speaker 4: I used to be depressed. I didn't know I was.
Speaker 3: Everybody used to extent, right, Yeah.
Speaker 5: I didn't know it was depression until I was talked
Speaker 5: to my therapist you know twenty yeah, thirty, twenty eight
Speaker 5: years ago something like that, and he said, well, have
Speaker 5: you ever heard this?
Speaker 4: Sounds like depression.
Speaker 5: And I'm like, what, there's a reason for this, but yeah,
Speaker 5: those are the dark energies.
Speaker 6: Especially a long time ago. They never talked about that
Speaker 6: type of stuff, right.
Speaker 5: Like no, no, now they talk about mental health and such,
Speaker 5: but that was never talked about, you know, twenty thirty
Speaker 5: years ago. But yeah, definitely there's you know, there's light
Speaker 5: and dark, there's good and evil or yeah, good and
Speaker 5: evil and but don't give your power away to the evil,
Speaker 5: you know, like you're on a path, Tom, Like that's awesome,
Speaker 5: Like everything you went through growing up, now you're getting
Speaker 5: the word out there. And I think that's amazing, you know,
Speaker 5: listening to your story because I didn't know it, it
Speaker 5: was like, wow, that's fascinating. You took something that didn't
Speaker 5: work for you, or you know that you struggled and
Speaker 5: was hard in your life and you had to really
Speaker 5: work through and you had to pick yourself up from that.
Speaker 4: And now you're doing this, you're getting the truth out there.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and then you're supporting people and standing in their
Speaker 5: power and I'm trying to do. Yeah, And that's you know,
Speaker 5: that's taking something that was you can call it evil
Speaker 5: if you want, or that was hard to get through,
Speaker 5: and you're transforming it. Literally, you're transforming the energy by saying,
Speaker 5: you know what, I'm going to be part of the
Speaker 5: movement and waking people up.
Speaker 4: So I think that's amazing.
Speaker 3: And that's what I've always tried to do.
Speaker 6: And one thing especially, I don't know, I just feel
Speaker 6: like it's more of like a male thing, but like
Speaker 6: I've always been kind of angry about the situation and
Speaker 6: that we face in the world and what's going on
Speaker 6: in our countries. And you know, like I said, I've
Speaker 6: never been a fan of the government and what they're
Speaker 6: doing to people while masquerading like they're actually doing a
Speaker 6: good thing, like this idea that they tell you everything
Speaker 6: you want to hear, and then once they get into power,
Speaker 6: they take all of our power. I always say that
Speaker 6: they're politicians, in my opinion, are like parasites. They essentially
Speaker 6: feed off of our energy, time and money, and then
Speaker 6: we never get any of that back while they enriched themselves.
Speaker 6: And that's like a huge problem to me. So I've
Speaker 6: always tried to balance this out and try to deal
Speaker 6: with my anger in a more positive way and like
Speaker 6: attempting to get healthier and go to the gym and
Speaker 6: get it out in those ways. But I do see
Speaker 6: a lot of people struggling and suffering, and as someone
Speaker 6: who has struggled and suffered themselves. And also we recently
Speaker 6: just did an episode. It will be up by the time.
Speaker 6: This one is about like psychic vampires and how me
Speaker 6: and my buddy from Ireland were both like we were
Speaker 6: that at some point too.
Speaker 3: We were also those.
Speaker 6: Vampires that were feeding off of it, even if it
Speaker 6: was in a relationship or friends or whatever. That you
Speaker 6: use these energies and then you kind of consume it yourself.
Speaker 6: You make someone feel low because you also feel low,
Speaker 6: and everyone knows that type of person at work or
Speaker 6: wherever they may be in their life where they come
Speaker 6: around and then the vibrations get all low. And that's
Speaker 6: why I've kind of tried to be more positive. My
Speaker 6: boss even says that stuff where it's like you're always
Speaker 6: have a good attitude because I'm trying to like not
Speaker 6: be that person that I didn't like at the workplace
Speaker 6: when I was younger, and stuff like that, because it's
Speaker 6: pretty interesting that we've definitely been limited, there's been limitations
Speaker 6: set on like human beings and who we are. Like
Speaker 6: my first interest in this stuff was aliens in the paranormal,
Speaker 6: Like obviously weed boards was the first step, and then
Speaker 6: I started like looking at people like David Ike, which
Speaker 6: is very he like woke me up to a lot
Speaker 6: of stuff that I didn't wasn't even aware of, And
Speaker 6: that's why I was so interested by the reptilian stuff too,
Speaker 6: of like is there these some sort of demonic creatures?
Speaker 6: But now when you look at stuff too, there's also
Speaker 6: a lot of ancient cultures that worship snakes. So maybe
Speaker 6: not necessarily some of these energies are actually bad. They're
Speaker 6: just kind of neutral and trying to guide us along.
Speaker 6: But I would be interested in, like, you know, how
Speaker 6: you think that people can kind of like break free
Speaker 6: from this like three D matrix and how to like
Speaker 6: how to change our surroundings in our like, because I
Speaker 6: know you talk about this stuff and you cover some
Speaker 6: of this stuff and try to heal people, so I
Speaker 6: like to hear, like what do you think people should
Speaker 6: do to try to break free and break those boundaries down?
Speaker 4: First of all. I think what you're doing is a
Speaker 4: is a great example.
Speaker 5: You're taking what you know, what you struggled with the hardship,
Speaker 5: and you're transforming it. And so that's how to do it.
Speaker 5: As far as as anger, it's and that's big, and
Speaker 5: I believe everybody see I've chosen the path of peace.
Speaker 5: I and that was a conscious decision. It was around
Speaker 5: twenty one, twenty twenty one, when everything was happening and
Speaker 5: I was thinking, you know, there was a protest. It
Speaker 5: was called a freedom March in Vancouver, BC. Yeah, I thought,
Speaker 5: you know, I can, I can go to it, but
Speaker 5: it just didn't feel right and I was like, what's
Speaker 5: going on here? So I actually talked to somebody else
Speaker 5: about it, and I realized that, See, everybody's got their
Speaker 5: own purpose.
Speaker 4: My purpose is to.
Speaker 5: Hold that space, to hold that divine space for peace
Speaker 5: and ease and for flow and let that flow out.
Speaker 5: So as far as anger, what you've done with anger,
Speaker 5: and if anybody's stuck in their anger and they're just angry,
Speaker 5: follow your example and take action. It might not be
Speaker 5: holding a podcast, but something like that, like anger can be.
Speaker 5: Anger is a very passionate energy. If it's stuck. It
Speaker 5: can cause health issues, it can weaken a person, just
Speaker 5: make you feel kind of you know, helpless and such.
Speaker 5: But it can also be a very creative, passionate force
Speaker 5: in your life. And so if you like, ask yourself
Speaker 5: empowering questions. Okay, I'm angry about what's going on. I'm
Speaker 5: angry that you know they're they're holding people down and
Speaker 5: keeping them like keeping all this secret. And so somebody
Speaker 5: is in that place, say, Okay, how can I be
Speaker 5: part of the change and how can I take that?
Speaker 4: Do I need to start a podcast.
Speaker 5: Or do I need to do this or whatever it is,
Speaker 5: find ways to make a difference in other wors. It's
Speaker 5: what you're doing, is you're channeling that very powerful energy
Speaker 5: into something creative. But that takes like asking empowering questions,
Speaker 5: being willing to let go of right or wrong, because
Speaker 5: if you're stuck in I'm right and they're wrong, you're
Speaker 5: just that's the right and wrong concept that comes from
Speaker 5: three D consciousness. That's design that's actually designed to separate
Speaker 5: us and weaken us when we're stuck in right and wrong.
Speaker 5: And then when we're stuck in right and wrong, we
Speaker 5: don't take action, we're just focused on what's wrong or
Speaker 5: I'm right or vice versa. If we're focused on I'm wrong,
Speaker 5: then it's weakening. But ultimately it's a strategy of three
Speaker 5: D consciousness that keeps everybody separated and therefore weakened. When
Speaker 5: we can come together through podcasts like this, and whether
Speaker 5: it's like this or maybe it's more focused on five
Speaker 5: D in ascension, it's all about waking people up and supporting,
Speaker 5: you know, the movement and change and such.
Speaker 4: So one of that's one.
Speaker 5: Of the ways I would say focus on, like ask
Speaker 5: yourself empowering questions and how can I channel this energy
Speaker 5: to something constructive.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's different.
Speaker 3: It's it's tough too.
Speaker 6: It's like someone like me has been awake as long
Speaker 6: as I have, it is tough to like essentially look
Speaker 6: around and see some of the people and what's going
Speaker 6: on in the world and and you know, what's happening
Speaker 6: to like Canadians and people across the world. It is
Speaker 6: a tough thing, especially as someone like me that's like
Speaker 6: I been trying to shake people awake for a long
Speaker 6: time and then you know, a kind of slap them
Speaker 6: out of their sleep. But it's it's it's really hard
Speaker 6: to do because, like, I don't know, I do feel
Speaker 6: like there is a large portion of population that they
Speaker 6: I we used to call them sheeple, but like essentially
Speaker 6: are NPCs. That's what they term now, the non player characters.
Speaker 6: They just go along with whatever narrative they're told. And
Speaker 6: I do think it is because some of the conditioning
Speaker 6: and the frequencies that are being pumped out there in
Speaker 6: the medicine that people are taking. And that's what worries
Speaker 6: me the most is like, you know, especially with bringing
Speaker 6: a kid into this world, are they going to have
Speaker 6: to and do? Were things that we haven't had to
Speaker 6: struggle through maybe within one hundred years or so. To
Speaker 6: see some of the shifts that are happening on this planet.
Speaker 6: I do think it's a good thing. Like why of
Speaker 6: the I don't know.
Speaker 3: If you're ware.
Speaker 6: There's guy named David Wilcock. He's been on like ancient
Speaker 6: alien stuff. He's been around for a long time a lot.
Speaker 6: Some people don't like him, some people do like him.
Speaker 6: I've read all of his books and and like I've
Speaker 6: had buddies that are really into the stuff that like
Speaker 6: kind of a joke with me about it. But I've
Speaker 6: always kind of liked his viewpoint of trying to wake
Speaker 6: people up and show them the evidence and be more
Speaker 6: positive in that regard, where like someone like David Ike,
Speaker 6: he's very honest and upfront and saying like, hey, this
Speaker 6: is what's happening, like you have these options or we're
Speaker 6: done kind of thing. But I always liked this idea
Speaker 6: of a ascension like that was one of David Wilcox's books,
Speaker 6: was talking about the ascension and these synchronicities that are
Speaker 6: happening all around us all the time, and it has
Speaker 6: always been a fascinating thing to me. But you know,
Speaker 6: when I started, I've been doing music for a long
Speaker 6: time too. I use hip hop to convey a message
Speaker 6: and to try to wake people up, and I've done
Speaker 6: fairly well at it to some extent, and a lot
Speaker 6: of my first music I was writing, like one of
Speaker 6: the things I the kind of album I was producing it,
Speaker 6: I was like seventeen was called like the Ascension.
Speaker 3: It's like somewhere on YouTube.
Speaker 6: It's very old now at this point, and I've developed
Speaker 6: a new like account for that kind of stuff. But
Speaker 6: I've always tried to push people like we have to
Speaker 6: awake as one unified people, and it's hard and tough
Speaker 6: to do that with the amount of people you know
Speaker 6: that just I don't want to snap out of it.
Speaker 6: It's hard to reach them, you know. And it that's
Speaker 6: why it's like you kind of it is true. You
Speaker 6: kind of have to do it in a pieceful way
Speaker 6: that you can lead a horse to water where you
Speaker 6: can't really make a drink exactly exactly.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And we're all living our own life, you know,
Speaker 5: we're all here for I believe, Like you said a
Speaker 5: little bit at the beginning, I believe, and it's you know,
Speaker 5: everybody's got their own belief. So we choose our parents
Speaker 5: before we come in here, and we choose them because
Speaker 5: there's something we need to learn, something we need to
Speaker 5: work through, because we're working through past lives as well.
Speaker 3: You know, I'd like to get to that stuff, you know, And.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we're working. Yeah, we're working through all of that.
Speaker 5: So we'll choose our parents based on that. So some
Speaker 5: people like their path is to wake and awaken during
Speaker 5: this lifetime and start the awakening and start to figure
Speaker 5: out what's going on. And we are, we're taking back
Speaker 5: our power. I absolutely believe that things in the you know,
Speaker 5: like multi million dollar even billion dollar corporations and such,
Speaker 5: they are starting to dissolve. I think there's so much
Speaker 5: chaos happening like in behind the scenes, but they're not
Speaker 5: letting anybody know, because what I believe is you can
Speaker 5: see little signs of it every now and then.
Speaker 4: They meaning the three D.
Speaker 5: They're starting to get desperate, and you know, it's just
Speaker 5: like desperate people do stupid things. They will make mistakes,
Speaker 5: and because they know, more and more people are waking up.
Speaker 5: And it's not going to take all eight billion people
Speaker 5: waking up for the you know, people to really start
Speaker 5: waking up in mass, like in big numbers. It's but
Speaker 5: getting the word out like this is that's what's going
Speaker 5: to make you know. That's like you are playing your part.
Speaker 5: If you feel like there's always people see as light
Speaker 5: workers or change makers, people are here to support waking
Speaker 5: up others. We are birthed and born into families of density,
Speaker 5: not so much now, but especially even twenty thirty, forty fifty, seventy,
Speaker 5: one hundred years ago, because we're here to see the light.
Speaker 5: We're here to you know, be a change maker, to
Speaker 5: make a difference. So oftentimes we want family and friends
Speaker 5: are the very ones we want to wake up, and
Speaker 5: so you will try a person will try to wake
Speaker 5: them up or try to change their mind or something.
Speaker 5: But if somebody's not ready to awaken, they're not going
Speaker 5: to awaken. However, if you're emotionally connected, just being in
Speaker 5: your energy field, you're frequency, whether or not you're living together,
Speaker 5: being emotion connected with somebody is going to make a
Speaker 5: difference to them, and they might just like I did
Speaker 5: on the race track. I don't even know how, but
Speaker 5: I think it was just somebody I talked on the
Speaker 5: racetracks and somehow I got on this path. But somebody
Speaker 5: said something that woke me up out of you know,
Speaker 5: out of the sleep. Yeah, and it's been a thirty
Speaker 5: year journey.
Speaker 3: And that and that's uh, and that's what it is too.
Speaker 6: Like you know, I'm sure I won't find me saying this,
Speaker 6: but we've always butt head. She's also a scorpio, but
Speaker 6: she was, She's always been the one that I've wanted
Speaker 6: to wake up the most, right her and her and
Speaker 6: my grandmother or are were both nurses and worked in
Speaker 6: that industry and kind of have been conditioned to some
Speaker 6: extent of the medical industry and trying to wake my
Speaker 6: mom up to some of that stuff has been a
Speaker 6: hard journey, and I feel like she's sllightly starting to
Speaker 6: get there to some extent. But a lot of people
Speaker 6: have cognitive dissident where they don't want to like they
Speaker 6: don't want to break free, they don't want to be like, uh,
Speaker 6: you know that I was there or wrong or some
Speaker 6: regard with some of the stuff that's gone on, or
Speaker 6: like I remember during COVID, you know, I was talking
Speaker 6: to my dad in front of my house and I
Speaker 6: was like, you know, all this stuff has been manufactured.
Speaker 6: They're doing this to keep us down and hold the
Speaker 6: boot over our neck. And he was like, why would
Speaker 6: they do that? And I was like, because they're not
Speaker 6: human in the way we think human is.
Speaker 3: To be human is to be humane.
Speaker 6: I don't think people like Klaus Schwab and some of
Speaker 6: the people in the World Economic Form or in Black Rock,
Speaker 6: like Larry Fink, and so I don't think they're necessarily
Speaker 6: even human, And if they are, they're probably being pulled
Speaker 6: down by some sort of entities like to me, like
Speaker 6: when you were talking about the stuff and the negative
Speaker 6: energies in my head, I kind of pictured this idea
Speaker 6: of these dark shadow creatures kind of pulling people down to.
Speaker 3: Their level because I've always thought like, oh.
Speaker 6: I've always been aliens, and the idea that there is
Speaker 6: interdimensional beings. First I thought I was physically they're in
Speaker 6: other planets. And I used to smoke cigarettes. I us
Speaker 6: to look up to the sky and see like the
Speaker 6: stars moving, and me and my buddy would get up
Speaker 6: binoculars and we'd like, look at these stars that are
Speaker 6: shifting colors, which didn't make sense because they'll be like red, green, blue,
Speaker 6: wold almost be like a synchronicity, like in a pattern.
Speaker 6: And it was very weird to see. And that's what
Speaker 6: kind of start waking me up. When I was like
Speaker 6: sixteen and seventeen, I was kind of like physically anti government,
Speaker 6: but when I started to like look at the alien
Speaker 6: aspect of things. Now, the older I've gotten, it's definitely
Speaker 6: like interdimensional, which I think the higher tiers, like you know,
Speaker 6: I like to get your opinion on this, are probably
Speaker 6: more of the divined energies, but then there's the lower
Speaker 6: astral dimensions. And that's what I thought I saw when
Speaker 6: I was having my shadow people experience is they're trying
Speaker 6: to bring people down to their physical and emotional and
Speaker 6: spiritual level of being, these lower tiers of reality kind
Speaker 6: of to enslave us into that like physicality. And that's
Speaker 6: why I've heard about stuff about the reptilities and stuff,
Speaker 6: is that they're attached to this physical form and attached
Speaker 6: to feeding off of physical energy rather than a weight
Speaker 6: like being attached to the higher spiritual consciousness.
Speaker 3: They've kind of been trapped in.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, I believe, yeah, they are, well, they
Speaker 5: do feed office. One way to look at this, like
Speaker 5: I look at in relationships, like there's narcissists. The classic
Speaker 5: in this field, the classic relationship is narcissist and m passe.
Speaker 3: Ye Trudeau is like, what the biggest narcissist I've ever seen?
Speaker 5: And they don't like and they can say exactly the
Speaker 5: same words. It's like politicians will say, like you said,
Speaker 5: they say exactly what you want to hear. They will
Speaker 5: say exactly you know what you want to hear. They
Speaker 5: say the same words, even you know they're say encouraging words,
Speaker 5: but ultimately it's all about them. And I think as
Speaker 5: somebody who's you know, who cares, who wants to make
Speaker 5: a difference to believe that some people can be so
Speaker 5: all about themselves like nothing else matters. Like there's levels
Speaker 5: of narcissism, but the extreme narcissism, they only care about themselves.
Speaker 5: They might say the right words, but it's all about them,
Speaker 5: and they don't care about the outcome. They don't care
Speaker 5: if it hurts others. So it's yes, there are the
Speaker 5: way I see it.
Speaker 4: I don't this.
Speaker 5: This is what I've always seen anyways with somebody that
Speaker 5: say I'm dealing with a narcissist, I see them almost
Speaker 5: as troops, as soldiers. They don't know it though, they
Speaker 5: don't know they are in this, and they're being manipulated
Speaker 5: by sometimes other people, but often it's energies that are
Speaker 5: manipulating them and causing them, you know, keeping them asleep
Speaker 5: and causing them to do things that either it's all
Speaker 5: about them or they're harming others. But yeah, so there
Speaker 5: are other energies. You might you're explain a little bit
Speaker 5: different there, but there are energies that are manipulating people
Speaker 5: that are asleep, and especially those that are narcissistic and
Speaker 5: don't even know it. And like I've got a family
Speaker 5: member who's very narcissistic, and she it's like she doesn't
Speaker 5: even know it though, because she can come across as
Speaker 5: very kind, appearing to be that way. But I know
Speaker 5: that I can see how there are energies controlling or
Speaker 5: manipulating or so I see it as little troops. You know,
Speaker 5: of eight billion people, there's a lot of them that
Speaker 5: are the vast majority. They're not away, they don't know
Speaker 5: what's going on, but they're being controlled by these other energies.
Speaker 4: That are manipulating them, the dark energies. But it's going
Speaker 4: to take all of.
Speaker 5: Us waking up, you know how, whatever way you do it,
Speaker 5: you know, waking people up to something greater that we're
Speaker 5: being manipulated, to the light to you know, another way
Speaker 5: of living, living from peace or adventure or optimism or
Speaker 5: uplifting energies, whatever you're looking for, to start to release
Speaker 5: see the power those dark entities have over us.
Speaker 6: That's why I feel like we're like climbing up like
Speaker 6: a mountain almost, and there's like things that are grabbing
Speaker 6: at our feet. Like there's a if you if you've
Speaker 6: never seen it's an interesting movie, you probably like. It's
Speaker 6: called Constantine. It had Keanu Reeves in it, and he
Speaker 6: essentially goes to Hell to like save this woman that
Speaker 6: he cares about, and as he's trying to essentially bring
Speaker 6: her back, he's being taken down by all these demons
Speaker 6: and they try to pull him back into like Hell,
Speaker 6: and it reminds me of like, that's what's happening to
Speaker 6: kind of people as they're being beckoned towards this, like
Speaker 6: this transhumanist agenda. That's with my most concern is is
Speaker 6: where we're heading towards that stuff. Like, I'm not I
Speaker 6: don't think the trans agenda thing is is great for anybody.
Speaker 6: I think it hurts more people and there's more suicides
Speaker 6: and all that stuff that ends up accumulating from this
Speaker 6: of people kind of being manipulated to believe that they're
Speaker 6: not who they are, and then you see this he's
Speaker 6: getting directed more towards like, oh, take this chip in
Speaker 6: your arm, and like what people would I've had all
Speaker 6: sorts of different guests on the show that Mark of
Speaker 6: the Beast type of stuff, if that even is the case.
Speaker 6: I always someone who kind of sits on the fence,
Speaker 6: and I'm I have my own deep seated beliefs of
Speaker 6: what I think is kind of going on. But I
Speaker 6: always let people kind of like say what they need
Speaker 6: to and what they believe, and then I always take
Speaker 6: little bits of pieces of knowledge and tries to collect
Speaker 6: them and form laid my own mountain essentially to climb up.
Speaker 6: And it is it is an interesting thing because there's
Speaker 6: definitely people there's a big manipulation tactic being happening.
Speaker 3: Like I'm not a fan of the left or the right.
Speaker 6: I think they're the same birds, same wings, flying in
Speaker 6: the same direction, and they they've all been gotten to
Speaker 6: and kind of paid off, Like I really did like
Speaker 6: the light of some of the Jeffrey Epstein stuff and
Speaker 6: some of that like they are. I don't think you
Speaker 6: get in a position of power unless they have something
Speaker 6: on you to blackmail, so you wouldn't be able to
Speaker 6: reach those tears. And there's echelons of power, there's hallways
Speaker 6: of power without them being able to say, hey, if
Speaker 6: you and I don't know, if you screw up or
Speaker 6: you do something out of line, we have this on you, right.
Speaker 6: And it is interesting because I would like to kind
Speaker 6: of get in because I see you've talked about stuff
Speaker 6: like this is like the New Earth idea, and if
Speaker 6: we are ascending to some sort of higher consciousness.
Speaker 3: That's what I've always thought.
Speaker 6: But the you know I've I have, I've had Christians
Speaker 6: on that believe that the world is ending and very soon.
Speaker 6: And there's a specific guy doesn't neymo a New things
Speaker 6: is ending in twenty thirty four, So there is. And
Speaker 6: I'm not a believer of that, but I believe that
Speaker 6: we are pressing. We're at like a precipice. We're at
Speaker 6: like at this one of probably the most important times
Speaker 6: in our history where we have two roads and either
Speaker 6: we go one way and we're enslaved totally under a
Speaker 6: digital currency. And they were in nineteen eighty four George
Speaker 6: Orwell and one of his last messages was saying like essentially,
Speaker 6: don't let it happen, like just imagine a mood stamping
Speaker 6: on a face forever. Is we're kind of we're headed
Speaker 6: or there's this other way where people wake up and
Speaker 6: they realize that we need to collectively be on each
Speaker 6: other's side and take care of our own nations and
Speaker 6: our own people and allow our nations and people to flourish,
Speaker 6: rather than what we see happening now with everyone being divided.
Speaker 6: Because I do think the some of the immigration stuff
Speaker 6: and that stuff that's happening in Canada is being used
Speaker 6: against the population because when you have too many people
Speaker 6: of different beliefs and ideologies, it gets split and everyone's divided,
Speaker 6: constantly bickering with each other. Believe in this and I
Speaker 6: believe in that, and I want this to happen, and
Speaker 6: then there's no political solutions because they've kind of being
Speaker 6: gotten to and everyone is fighting with each other. I always,
Speaker 6: rather than looking up at the oligarchs and the people
Speaker 6: that are like hunched over, looking down at us pulling
Speaker 6: all the puppet strings.
Speaker 3: It's like, where do you think you like?
Speaker 6: Where do you think you see that we're going with
Speaker 6: this like a new Earth concept or a different way
Speaker 6: of life.
Speaker 4: I believe you're going to be okay.
Speaker 5: Like I'm a big believer in the you know, the
Speaker 5: higher benevolent beings, non physical benevolent beings taking care of us.
Speaker 4: But we also can't be passive.
Speaker 5: It's like, you know, some people believe, in particular politicians
Speaker 5: say there's going to save us, going to be a savior.
Speaker 4: That's not going to happen. We all have to play
Speaker 4: our part.
Speaker 5: But I do believe there are non physical, benevolent light
Speaker 5: beings who are supporting us and want the world and
Speaker 5: the population to continue. But this is and I don't
Speaker 5: know this is going to happen. It just what's has
Speaker 5: been coming in for a while. I believe there's going
Speaker 5: to be the people who are in more of a
Speaker 5: you know, the New Earth, the fifth dimension and above,
Speaker 5: who know that we're being told lies, that we're being manipulated,
Speaker 5: who are of higher consciousness, greater awareness and such. And
Speaker 5: right now that's probably maybe around say three percent of
Speaker 5: the population, three to five percent, Yeah, it's not high.
Speaker 5: And then there will be people who just will not
Speaker 5: wake up. There's still like in their current lifetime and
Speaker 5: they're still stuck and they're probably a lot of them
Speaker 5: what they are now, they're going.
Speaker 4: Through a lot of struggle.
Speaker 5: They they'll be stuck in that.
Speaker 3: Look at that youth they do.
Speaker 6: Like how they're manipulating the youth so much through like
Speaker 6: political agendas and stuff is like scary to me.
Speaker 5: There's also a lot of youth though, and kids that
Speaker 5: are coming in that are being born now, that are
Speaker 5: born you know, more awakened.
Speaker 3: Like stars idea, right, yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 5: And so what I see as is a little bit
Speaker 5: what's how now, but more like those that are just asleep,
Speaker 5: they're asleep. They can't see the higher dimensions. They can't
Speaker 5: see that the you know, the higher consciousness beings. And
Speaker 5: then the you know, those that are of the higher dimensions,
Speaker 5: higher consciousness, that are working for change. It can see
Speaker 5: clearly they're also on the planet. And that's what I
Speaker 5: see it. It's again a little bit what's going on now,
Speaker 5: but maybe not so much. Uh, the fighting, I don't
Speaker 5: see the for for what now. I'm talking going in
Speaker 5: the future, you know, several decades, but the fighting dissipating
Speaker 5: and such.
Speaker 4: Is that your dog?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think.
Speaker 5: He's bringing in some good energy. He said, don't worry
Speaker 5: so much. It's all going to be okay.
Speaker 3: He's a he's a very attentive. He's a jackapoo.
Speaker 6: So he's like stringy and crazy and I don't know
Speaker 6: if I streaking my wife.
Speaker 4: That's an interesting combination.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 3: He's what we call the wild man. Help me you
Speaker 3: myself while you talk.
Speaker 4: That's okay. I've got an old guy here. He's always
Speaker 4: looking at me. He's like he's getting time for a walk,
Speaker 4: isn't it. Yeah, he just goes for short walks. But yeah,
Speaker 4: I see as I guess because I have.
Speaker 5: It was like I said, it was around twenty twenty
Speaker 5: one when I really gave it a lot of thought,
Speaker 5: and I think will be okay if you're awake, if
Speaker 5: you trust, trust in your higher power and talk to
Speaker 5: the not you know the whether I like, I talked
Speaker 5: to Arkanesel, Michael Arcaneo, Raphael There, Saint Germain, latch me
Speaker 5: and God is a prosperity, It might be Jesus, whoever
Speaker 5: it is for you, you can talk to them and
Speaker 5: listen to what they have to say. And when you're still,
Speaker 5: you talked about deep breathing or meditation. Deep breathing is
Speaker 5: a great way to quiet yourself and or even just
Speaker 5: a few deep breasts and let yourself go into that. There.
Speaker 5: I can feel the energy shifting already and know that
Speaker 5: you're okay.
Speaker 4: Trust that you're okay.
Speaker 5: And know that if you're ever in fear or you're
Speaker 5: just really angry about what's going on, take a deep
Speaker 5: breath in and you can ask, you know what, Archangel Michael,
Speaker 5: how can I release this? I don't want to be
Speaker 5: stuck in fear. I don't want to be stuck in anger.
Speaker 5: I don't want to be angry about everything that's going
Speaker 5: on because you know that's affecting my health and my
Speaker 5: energy and I'm not enjoying life much.
Speaker 4: So show me how I can, you know.
Speaker 5: Take a deep breath, feel the peace within me and
Speaker 5: let yourself just relax. And what will happen Even if
Speaker 5: you don't feel anything necessarily in that.
Speaker 4: Moment, you will be drought.
Speaker 5: You will be guided to maybe it's high frequency music,
Speaker 5: maybe it's a channel, or maybe it's programs like this
Speaker 5: that bring more calm within you. And you know, when
Speaker 5: you focus on that and when you ask your your
Speaker 5: guides or you know, the higher power for something like that,
Speaker 5: you will be.
Speaker 4: Guided to it.
Speaker 5: And so and trust plays a big part in it,
Speaker 5: Like I trust that I'm and that's huge, trusting that
Speaker 5: I'm going to be okay, Trusting that we're going to
Speaker 5: be okay.
Speaker 4: And also the people that because there's a lot of them.
Speaker 5: That just will never wake up and they go through
Speaker 5: struggle in this lifetime that's their path.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5: We can't shows like this in doing inner work and such.
Speaker 5: It supports the awakening of people. But if it's not
Speaker 5: their path in this lifetime, if they have to live
Speaker 5: a path of struggle in anger and whatever it is,
Speaker 5: and maybe the next lifetime they're going to wake up.
Speaker 5: In other words, it's that you give them the tools
Speaker 5: to awaken, but some people just won't. And the reason why,
Speaker 5: you know, a lot of people will never awaken, or
Speaker 5: they will even if they know something's going on, the
Speaker 5: part of them will it literally choose to stay stuck
Speaker 5: is because it's safe. It's safe when you can let
Speaker 5: like when you can give your power away to the
Speaker 5: government and the government says do this or take that
Speaker 5: or be this way and I'll look after you or
Speaker 5: you know, government politician and makes a person feel safe.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's all.
Speaker 6: Yeah, oh yeah, And that's what I've said for a
Speaker 6: long time too, is like the fact that people do
Speaker 6: put trust because it does make them feel safe, that
Speaker 6: they feel like, oh, they will take care of me.
Speaker 6: And that's why, you know, I'm a big crit I'm
Speaker 6: not a fan of communism in any way, and I
Speaker 6: do think that like that's kind of where we're headed,
Speaker 6: is the new World Order is a communist new World
Speaker 6: order of convincing people, hey, if you give all your
Speaker 6: power and wealth to me, I'll take care of you
Speaker 6: until you're dead type of thing. But if you study history,
Speaker 6: communism has destroyed millions upon millions of lives, actually, way
Speaker 6: more than fascism has ever done. So that's the thing
Speaker 6: that I've always kind of been more concerned about. And
Speaker 6: I've always tried to wake people up, but there is
Speaker 6: people that will never wake up. And I've heard stories
Speaker 6: about this through all my research of maybe there's been
Speaker 6: stories where people have went to a spiritual guide and
Speaker 6: they're like, you know, they've lived this life and they've
Speaker 6: never really had any friends and not metch family, and
Speaker 6: they're like, you're doing this, You're going through this, and
Speaker 6: you're doing this alone because you need to learn a
Speaker 6: lesson and they're all waiting for you on the other side,
Speaker 6: but you need to go through this process first to
Speaker 6: kind of cleanse your soul. And I do think that
Speaker 6: Earth is kind of like a school, you know, in
Speaker 6: some regard is that we need to learn these lessons
Speaker 6: to go on and ascend to a higher level. Like
Speaker 6: I do think that I still have a lot to
Speaker 6: learn a lot of things, and you know, my wife
Speaker 6: can vetch for this. I'm still I'm like I'm still
Speaker 6: getting frustrated about a lot of this stuff that's happening,
Speaker 6: especially in this country. Like I'm a nationalist, like I
Speaker 6: really do care about my country and my heritage. My
Speaker 6: family's been here since sixteen oh four, so some of
Speaker 6: that stuff of what's going on now is very concerning
Speaker 6: to me. I don't want my kid to grow up
Speaker 6: a foreigner in the country that their ancestors built.
Speaker 3: So like, this is stuff that.
Speaker 6: I see now is being used against the population to
Speaker 6: kind of like melt us into something that like the
Speaker 6: melting pot thing will never has never really worked. And
Speaker 6: now we see this division all the time with everybody,
Speaker 6: and it's it's sad to me and to some extent
Speaker 6: that people don't see like, hey, we all need to
Speaker 6: like get along to get along. Like I've always been
Speaker 6: more of a I guess a libertarian of like live
Speaker 6: and let be, but you kind of like a nation
Speaker 6: is like a family, so people have to like kind
Speaker 6: of like care about each other. And if we don't
Speaker 6: have that care and most people are about self interest,
Speaker 6: like politicians and maybe some of the people that are
Speaker 6: coming into the country or whatever's happening, it's not going
Speaker 6: to ever benefit us as a whole. Right, So like people,
Speaker 6: I feel like we are constantly in this battle between
Speaker 6: like good and evil and being stretched apart, and most
Speaker 6: people will break under the pressure.
Speaker 4: Yeah, many people will.
Speaker 5: But you know what the break is depending on how
Speaker 5: it's used to be called a psychotic break or you know,
Speaker 5: sometimes when they people would break, they were put in
Speaker 5: you know, not so much now maybe, but psyche places
Speaker 5: and such. But now what if that break is an awakening.
Speaker 5: It's a break through the density, so the light can
Speaker 5: come in and start waking you up to new you.
Speaker 4: Know, new ways of being and new ways of looking
Speaker 4: at things.
Speaker 5: And sometimes we have to go really really deeply into
Speaker 5: it and into the depths of the darkness and the
Speaker 5: struggle and the heaviness before yes, there is that break.
Speaker 5: It's not easy, yeah, but it's awakening.
Speaker 6: That's kind of what I think too, is like, is
Speaker 6: we might have to get to a point where I
Speaker 6: don't know, people are really struggling, and then the people
Speaker 6: might really wake up. Like COVID I always said, like,
Speaker 6: I don't know, if COVID didn't wake you up, I
Speaker 6: don't know what will really because like essentially, especially you're
Speaker 6: in Canada and places like Australia, the government has put
Speaker 6: the boot down on the neck of the people, like
Speaker 6: you weren't allowed to do anything or go anywhere unless
Speaker 6: you took whatever they told you to, which you know,
Speaker 6: and now we're learning what that has done to people.
Speaker 6: And that's concerning a lot of what they and they're
Speaker 6: like I've always said it is said, I don't think
Speaker 6: there's a political solution because unless people like Trudeau are
Speaker 6: held accountable for their actions, because they don't. Politicians are narcissistic.
Speaker 6: They don't care about the people that they're representing because
Speaker 6: I don't think they represent us. I think they represent
Speaker 6: the globbyist groups and foreign interest in NGOs and when
Speaker 6: they're doing these policies that they don't even they wouldn't
Speaker 6: even think about that it's hurting your average person or
Speaker 6: some of the policies that have been done even in
Speaker 6: the indigenous community that they're claiming is helping them, but
Speaker 6: then it's actually really hurting them, and they and they
Speaker 6: see this. I just had a guy on that was
Speaker 6: Native and we talked about kind of bringing the essentially
Speaker 6: the white Canadian population and the indigenous together to kind
Speaker 6: of like fight against what's going on in the country,
Speaker 6: and he was like, yeah, what they're doing on the
Speaker 6: reserves is not right. You see all these things the
Speaker 6: governments like, oh, this would be good for you, but
Speaker 6: then it's really not at the end of the day,
Speaker 6: and you have all these people that constantly like fighting
Speaker 6: with each other over this. But I truly believe, like
Speaker 6: I don't know until people are like held accountable, and
Speaker 6: there is a lot of people that think that like, oh,
Speaker 6: they'll be held accountable in the next life. But I
Speaker 6: do think that the power isn't with the people, and
Speaker 6: that people need to take back their power from essentially
Speaker 6: these like entities, because like the government itself is an
Speaker 6: entity in a branch of all these others. Like you
Speaker 6: always picture the spider web, and obviously there's something very
Speaker 6: demonic at the the center of that, whatever the spider
Speaker 6: actually is, and they're like feeding into everything. Of course,
Speaker 6: like you've obviously watched the Matrix movies, like that is
Speaker 6: such they can I think they've kind have been now
Speaker 6: the directors are in the Matrix, but like they convade
Speaker 6: it in such a way or was like it makes
Speaker 6: a lot of sense of what we exist in.
Speaker 3: You know, it's not as physical as we think it is.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, we're used to you know, seeing everything
Speaker 5: through the five senses and physical I'm thinking we're all separated.
Speaker 5: But yeah, everything conneccess through energy. And I was gonna
Speaker 5: mention to one of the reasons that people will stay
Speaker 5: stuck even if they know, like they're starting to be
Speaker 5: aware of this stuff, but they still choose to stay
Speaker 5: stuck is because one of our human basic needs, there's
Speaker 5: actually a hierarchy of needs, is belonging. And if you're
Speaker 5: you know, yeah, if you're if you're waking up, and
Speaker 5: but it means leaving your family or friends behind, or
Speaker 5: often people will let go of relationships even like I
Speaker 5: was in an eight year relationship and then I still
Speaker 5: got into personal growth and then I realized that my
Speaker 5: relationship wasn't working. But that woke me up, so I
Speaker 5: ended up leaving it. I can't blame personal growth for that,
Speaker 5: but it woke me up to hey, this isn't working,
Speaker 5: and part of that was the relationship. And so but
Speaker 5: people there, yeah, it's a basic need for a sense
Speaker 5: of belonging and when they when they awaken, when they
Speaker 5: hear information like this. But like you said, your mom's
Speaker 5: not a believer of this she you know, still be
Speaker 5: in the three D and such and that somebody else
Speaker 5: is going to look after. And when you believe in that,
Speaker 5: everybody you know, family, friends, maybe a partner a marriage
Speaker 5: is a believer in the three D. And you know
Speaker 5: what the manipulation in that it can be. You know,
Speaker 5: that sense of belonging and staying safe. Those are two
Speaker 5: big bay reasons why people will stay stuck even when
Speaker 5: they're aware, even when they know.
Speaker 1: So.
Speaker 5: It's also I think if somebody's really stuck in anger,
Speaker 5: like why isn't somebody waking up?
Speaker 4: There's also level of compassion there, you know.
Speaker 5: What they're not. They might even know, like my friend
Speaker 5: might know, this person might know. My mom might know,
Speaker 5: but for her, for that person, they would rather, you know,
Speaker 5: they need that sense of belonging. I mean, it's a
Speaker 5: basic human need. You know, we all need that sense
Speaker 5: of belonging and to feel safe. And that's why it's
Speaker 5: so tough, you know, can be so tough to wake
Speaker 5: people up. And again, even if they they've watched your show, Tom,
Speaker 5: even if they've watched others.
Speaker 4: They're aware of it.
Speaker 5: It's if their whole circle of influence, their friends, and
Speaker 5: family are not part of that. Yeah, ances are, unless
Speaker 5: they're really strong within themselves, they're really you know, waking up,
Speaker 5: they're going to stay stuck.
Speaker 3: But at this time, no, no, I could keep going
Speaker 3: at it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it's it's like I said, compassion is we
Speaker 5: we we need compassion those of us that are here
Speaker 5: to wake up others. It's you do everything you can
Speaker 5: to awaken them to so that they've become aware of
Speaker 5: you know, good and evil and the dark energies and
Speaker 5: benevolent energies and all of that, but then also set
Speaker 5: them free to their highest and greatest good. So you
Speaker 5: set your yourself free to your highest and greatest good.
Speaker 5: Because sometimes we can get so attached to that that,
Speaker 5: you know, we get attached to trying to wake them
Speaker 5: up or trying to wake a group of people up, and.
Speaker 4: Just set them free to their highest and greatest good.
Speaker 5: And if they're meant to awaken and to really join
Speaker 5: the movement, they will, If not, in this lifetime, they're
Speaker 5: going to stay stuck.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: And I'm a person I agree with that, and that's
Speaker 6: part of like I you know, I'm very spiritually. My
Speaker 6: mom's spiritual to sum extance and some of the people.
Speaker 6: But like, and this is why I found, like recently
Speaker 6: the last couple of years, why I've embraced like and
Speaker 6: they started to look into stuff about my own culture
Speaker 6: and heritage and when my family came to this country
Speaker 6: and stuff like that, because like, I agree with you
Speaker 6: that people need to feel a belonging. What's happened a
Speaker 6: lot of times in the Western world and stuff like
Speaker 6: that is we've been told that we need to accept
Speaker 6: like all of this stuff that's being forced upon us,
Speaker 6: and that like, especially in Canada, Trudeau said it, we
Speaker 6: have no we're a post national estate. And I do
Speaker 6: think that national identities and people embracing who they are
Speaker 6: and their cultures and spirituality is a good thing. You
Speaker 6: see this in India, you see this in China, you
Speaker 6: see this in Japan, you see this in every other
Speaker 6: country where And this is the point that a lot
Speaker 6: of people don't like to be a touch. But something
Speaker 6: that I've realized over the last couple of years is
Speaker 6: of white people aren't really allowed to have that in
Speaker 6: our countries, in our in our world that we exist
Speaker 6: in is we're now that's why people are so tribalistic,
Speaker 6: and now they're turning to our things like you have,
Speaker 6: you say, the LGBT community, or you know, there's a
Speaker 6: lot of kids being pushed communism onto them and stuff
Speaker 6: like that. And this Marxist really danger one of the
Speaker 6: worst ideologies I've ever seen exists in this reality. And
Speaker 6: because I've looked at a history a lot, and that's
Speaker 6: why it's fascinating to me, because like I always like
Speaker 6: having a conversation with you.
Speaker 3: There's another guy.
Speaker 6: There's a guy named doctor Macklin, and he was like
Speaker 6: very similar, like very soft spoken and a spiritual teacher.
Speaker 3: He was I think he lives.
Speaker 6: In America, but he's a British originally, and like it was,
Speaker 6: it's always nice to have these conversations because I've talked
Speaker 6: about some pretty controversial stuff on the show to try
Speaker 6: to expose kind of what's going on and maybe the
Speaker 6: history that we think we know is not actually factual
Speaker 6: in some ways. But that's why I do find that
Speaker 6: people are starting to be tribalistic and they're always looking
Speaker 6: for a belonging. And we've seen this in this country
Speaker 6: where Canadians had an identity and had for decades and stuff,
Speaker 6: and then it was kind of ripped away from us
Speaker 6: and to some extent, and now you see like this
Speaker 6: division all the time, right, and realistically, if people can't
Speaker 6: find a belonging, they're only gonna be dragged towards something
Speaker 6: that's more dangerous. Let's where you like, gang activity and
Speaker 6: stuff that has happened within some of the you know,
Speaker 6: like the black community that's happened in America and stuff
Speaker 6: like that, is because of the environment they're a productive
Speaker 6: or environment that they're raised in with some of the
Speaker 6: project buildings, they get drawn towards like gang activity and
Speaker 6: stuff like that because they don't really feel like a
Speaker 6: sense of belonging and how do you escape from their
Speaker 6: own physical matrix, let alone the actual physical matrix. Right,
Speaker 6: So that's always been something as interest to me, especially
Speaker 6: like Okay, what can I try to change physically? How
Speaker 6: could I try to bring people together physically? And I've
Speaker 6: been very outspoken about my political beliefs online about what
Speaker 6: it means to be Canadian and who we actually are
Speaker 6: rather than what they try to dilute our culture kind
Speaker 6: of into.
Speaker 3: And I do think that's a part of it.
Speaker 6: Is people need to embrace who they are and embrace
Speaker 6: their spiritual identity and their national identity and like what
Speaker 6: makes them who they are and what their ancestors did
Speaker 6: to like create like who we are today, because without that,
Speaker 6: like Canada is a very used to be a very
Speaker 6: open and free society of acceptance and tolerance and stuff
Speaker 6: like that to some extent, but you now see people
Speaker 6: pressing against that because they've been told you don't have
Speaker 6: anything right, like we're not something that should be cherished
Speaker 6: or history should be ignored.
Speaker 4: You know, I think I just want to.
Speaker 5: I won't share any details here, of course, but one
Speaker 5: of my clients that you were talking about gangs and such,
Speaker 5: and I don't know if he was.
Speaker 4: Ever in a gang, but he went down that road of.
Speaker 5: You know, like many people do drugs and that, you
Speaker 5: know that and such, and became homeless and he realized
Speaker 5: that to get his life back on track he needed
Speaker 5: to he went to rehab and he walked away from everything,
Speaker 5: which just saying it gives me goosebumps. He says, I
Speaker 5: walked away from all my friends, my family. I knew
Speaker 5: I had to start over again, so I moved and
Speaker 5: just started over again, left everything and the courage that
Speaker 5: takes and that's what we need to find within ourselves.
Speaker 5: Let go of this belief that somebody else is going
Speaker 5: to take care of you, and find the courage and
Speaker 5: that strength within yourself.
Speaker 4: And this because this is what I believe in.
Speaker 5: As you ask the guide, ask like to me, Archangel
Speaker 5: Michael symbolizes divine strength, courage, divine power. Call on Michael,
Speaker 5: and I've done this and I felt the difference. Call
Speaker 5: on Michael to fill you up with that divine strength,
Speaker 5: the courage, the power and let that start awakening within
Speaker 5: you and then you're fine. You have the courage to
Speaker 5: walk away from you know, maybe a situation is it
Speaker 5: working for you, or a relationship, or or just you know,
Speaker 5: walk away from your family because their beliefs are completely different.
Speaker 5: And I'm not trying to say walk away from your family,
Speaker 5: but anybody who is keeping you stuck or limited or
Speaker 5: preventing you from being all you can be. In other words,
Speaker 5: there comes a time we're no longer vibrational match with them.
Speaker 5: And if you're starting to wake up, you're starting to
Speaker 5: believe in higher consciousness concepts, beliefs, and ways of being,
Speaker 5: and you're in a situation that no longer is you're
Speaker 5: no longer vibrational match for is it time for you
Speaker 5: to just really step into your courage and strength and say,
Speaker 5: you know what, there's got to be more to life.
Speaker 5: And I want to live from a place of creativity
Speaker 5: and inspiration and optimism and feel the strength for my
Speaker 5: you know, within myself and that courage within myself. So yeah,
Speaker 5: and that's yeah, I just want I just want to reiterate.
Speaker 5: I mean to say, walk away from your family. I
Speaker 5: meant to say, if you're waking up to higher consciousness
Speaker 5: and you're no longer a vibrational match, if you're being dragged.
Speaker 6: Yah, that's understandable because like even during COVID and stuff
Speaker 6: like that, like she's gone now, but my last grandmother, right,
Speaker 6: she like I didn't I didn't get I didn't take
Speaker 6: the shot, I was never going to.
Speaker 3: And stuff like that.
Speaker 6: And I essentially was cut off from my dad's side
Speaker 6: of my family. They wouldn't let me go to family events.
Speaker 6: They do like a kind of like a like a grandma.
Speaker 6: Grandmother had six boys and one girl, so it was
Speaker 6: like a big family and.
Speaker 3: I was kind of cut off from them.
Speaker 6: And I'll never forget the conversation where you know, I
Speaker 6: was like, uh, you know, I'm not I'm healthy. I'm fine, like,
Speaker 6: and she's like, you're the ones that are spreading it,
Speaker 6: and I'm like, that's not how it works, man, Like
Speaker 6: it's not what you think it is. And she I
Speaker 6: was like, all right, I love it, and she like
Speaker 6: hung up on me and like I really didn't get
Speaker 6: to see her before she died, and she told my
Speaker 6: cousin to like that she like love me and stuff
Speaker 6: like that when she went, and my cousin's awake and
Speaker 6: aware of what's going on, and I was kind of
Speaker 6: cut out, and I chose to be like I don't
Speaker 6: want to be part of this, like you know, and
Speaker 6: like I'm not a fan of what's going on in
Speaker 6: the world, but I do think people virtue signal a
Speaker 6: lot of the things. And I went over after all
Speaker 6: this time, it was like two or probably three years actually.
Speaker 6: Then I went to one of the family events and like,
Speaker 6: this is my own personal believe. They like, you know,
Speaker 6: the Ukrainian thing on their door, and I was like,
Speaker 6: if you're falling for like essentially just like the current thing.
Speaker 6: They always wave the flag of the current thing that
Speaker 6: the government's kind of telling him to do and think
Speaker 6: and act, and they all didn't look very healthy, and
Speaker 6: like I susually was ignored.
Speaker 3: Like one of my uncles.
Speaker 6: I was like, hey, how's a going And I kind
Speaker 6: of hit him like jokingly, like and I don't think
Speaker 6: he ever really liked me because he'd like to hang
Speaker 6: out with my cousin, but like he just literally didn't
Speaker 6: say anything to me. And I'm like, why am I
Speaker 6: coming here then anymore? If you guys are essentially just
Speaker 6: like you don't want anything to do with me, and
Speaker 6: I'm extreme in your ideology of how I think and
Speaker 6: believe things, then why am I even gonna even stay
Speaker 6: around you anymore? There's no point because you don't feel
Speaker 6: like a family, you don't feel like you're loving and
Speaker 6: caring about me.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that. You know, the whole past five
Speaker 5: years and such has really brought out different belief systems,
Speaker 5: like to me, you can go, you know, go beyond
Speaker 5: the shot and what what we're told was happening and such,
Speaker 5: and look at belief systems like for me, I'm all
Speaker 5: about freedom. That's one of my highest values. With freedom,
Speaker 5: and I'll make up my own mind. I'll decide what
Speaker 5: works for me. And it's not that I won't take
Speaker 5: others into consideration. But I don't need somebody else, especially
Speaker 5: a politician, telling me what best for me. And yeah,
Speaker 5: I don't like I'm all about freedom and living life
Speaker 5: from im sure I live within the confines of this world.
Speaker 5: To me, Yeah, it's freedom is just one of freedom, integrity, growth,
Speaker 5: and now peace. Those are my top hious you know,
Speaker 5: the my highest values. And so somebody tells me this
Speaker 5: is what's best for you, I'm going to question that.
Speaker 3: So just question when they're making money off of it, you.
Speaker 5: Know, yeah, well that's yeah, that's a big tell right there,
Speaker 5: you know, when they're making money. But I think that's
Speaker 5: what it really brought to light or exposed, was the
Speaker 5: varying belief systems, like if you want somebody else to
Speaker 5: look after you, whether it's you know, one person or
Speaker 5: a government body or as such, or if you're all
Speaker 5: about freedom, and you know what, I'll figure it out
Speaker 5: and I will survive as long as I have my freedom,
Speaker 5: and I'm more on the side of you know, freedom.
Speaker 5: And then from there, it's saying that's what we do
Speaker 5: in life. We decide what's important to us. So if
Speaker 5: anybody's this is actually a really good way to make,
Speaker 5: you know, support you and making decisions, so you figure
Speaker 5: out what's important to you, figure out what really matters you,
Speaker 5: what's important. From there, you can figure out your values.
Speaker 5: So if you've never done any values work, that's really powerful,
Speaker 5: you know, figuring out what's what's important, what your values are,
Speaker 5: Like I said, freedom, integrity, growth, and peace and no
Speaker 5: particular order, those are my top values. And from there,
Speaker 5: when you have to make a decision about something like
Speaker 5: in my case it was about freedom, it's like, I'll
Speaker 5: figure out how I want to live my life, what's
Speaker 5: best for me, and so instead of making it wrong
Speaker 5: or making others wrong, it's like, these are my values
Speaker 5: and this is what's important to me. So this is
Speaker 5: how you know, and I'm going to be integrity in
Speaker 5: that and live my life that way. And so from
Speaker 5: there it makes decisions so much easier. And then instead
Speaker 5: of saying, well, this is what I believe and this
Speaker 5: is my tribe and these people are wrong, you're like, no,
Speaker 5: these are my this is what's important to me and
Speaker 5: my actions and my you know, my beliefs, my actions away,
Speaker 5: I live my life follows what's important.
Speaker 3: To me a hundred percent.
Speaker 6: Your camera's frozen. Is your like laptop pugged in? I
Speaker 6: just want to make sure like it's charging. Okay, okay,
Speaker 6: why is it I hear are you so clear? Like
Speaker 6: clear as day? But for some reason your cameras to
Speaker 6: hold on just a sec here. No, it's probably fine,
Speaker 6: like it just maybe needs to buffer out. But I
Speaker 6: could hear you clear as day. So it's not like
Speaker 6: an Internet thing there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's really weird.
Speaker 3: It's the energies. It's so weird.
Speaker 5: Yeah, these are some intense energies. Hopefully you won't lose
Speaker 5: me here. If I do, well, you can, I'll come back.
Speaker 5: Let's see what just happened there.
Speaker 6: Yeah, because even on the Lord it is what it
Speaker 6: is like I can edit through some of this stuff.
Speaker 6: The camera like in the box that I see in
Speaker 6: the editing, it's like it's blank.
Speaker 3: It's very strang.
Speaker 5: Yeah. I tried escaping and okay, so you might lose
Speaker 5: me here, okay, Yeah, it's fine.
Speaker 3: You can come back in.
Speaker 4: So I use chrome and it says it's not responding.
Speaker 3: Weird, that's so straight I've never had and I can
Speaker 3: hear you clear as day.
Speaker 5: This is this has got to be some energy because
Speaker 5: I work from here, like I do all my work
Speaker 5: from you, a lot of podcasts working with clients from.
Speaker 6: Here because me either so bizarre and stop speaking to
Speaker 6: people like you. And I was like, you know, especially
Speaker 6: more like the spiritual aspect of people have had on
Speaker 6: not many you and the other guy I can think
Speaker 6: of is doctor Macklin. He was interested have same spiritual
Speaker 6: healing and stuff like that. It is interesting because like
Speaker 6: I've never had this issue, but then like you got,
Speaker 6: there's a weird feeling of like, you know, because we
Speaker 6: and I was gonna say, you like, even with my
Speaker 6: show we we do, we talk, we do dark humor,
Speaker 6: as you saw kind of in the intro, is like
Speaker 6: we try to talk about some of these controversial topics
Speaker 6: and things are happening in the world using humor because
Speaker 6: like that's the best way to my Irish body says
Speaker 6: is Granny always says, if you're not laughing, you're crying, right, So.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that's a good point. What I what I get,
Speaker 5: and I got a little bit at the first and
Speaker 5: sometimes happens when I start, you know, doing a podcast,
Speaker 5: is I can feel the energy of resistance coming in
Speaker 5: and it's like, you know, you're talking about dark energy.
Speaker 5: Those dark energies are saying, you know, you're not getting
Speaker 5: this information out there.
Speaker 3: And we're not even live or anything.
Speaker 6: So like it's interesting with that regard because like somebodys,
Speaker 6: I will mention stuff that it is a little more controversial.
Speaker 6: You'll see it like oh God, like oh they're the
Speaker 6: lizard people have gotten to the stream or something. We
Speaker 6: always make jokes because like it will start freezing or whatever.
Speaker 6: So you like mention certain subject matter, but this is
Speaker 6: not live. It's just through the Internet.
Speaker 3: And I heard you.
Speaker 6: Clear as day and then it was like everything froze.
Speaker 6: So it's like, I've never had that before. That's very
Speaker 6: weird that happens.
Speaker 5: And I'm hardwired here, like my internet is so my
Speaker 5: and I've got you know, strong internet, so.
Speaker 4: And but I've I've had that.
Speaker 5: That happens when you're talking about a really the energy
Speaker 5: is really starting to shift and awaken and higher consciousness.
Speaker 4: And yes, interruption will come in.
Speaker 3: This is and with ghost on stuff too, right, Like, yeah.
Speaker 5: People on your channel are used to it, so I
Speaker 5: don't think it's going to freak out anybody on your channel.
Speaker 5: Maybe the average person would freak out, but yes, there
Speaker 5: are energies. It will come in and try to prevent
Speaker 5: you from and it can be from taking action. It
Speaker 5: can be list from listening to something like this, from
Speaker 5: us having a conversation and letting.
Speaker 4: You know, waking people up to what's going on.
Speaker 5: And this is when you take your power back, Like
Speaker 5: when you say no, you are not going to weaken me.
Speaker 5: You are not going to create fear within me. You're
Speaker 5: not going to install fear within me. I'm taking my
Speaker 5: power back. It's like, I know you're there, so you're
Speaker 5: not just denying the existence of you know, dark energies
Speaker 5: or entities. You know they're there, but you're not letting them,
Speaker 5: you know, feed off you through the fear.
Speaker 3: That's what's interesting.
Speaker 6: And I feel like to my like with my shop people,
Speaker 6: experience is one thing, but like I've said the show
Speaker 6: before that I've proven to myself that there is dark
Speaker 6: energies out there, Like with on psilocybin, right, there's things
Speaker 6: called fractals I always like talk about. It's like it's
Speaker 6: like if you've seen the Harry Potter movies when he
Speaker 6: puts on the cloak, and in the movies they make
Speaker 6: it so you can still see him walking around and
Speaker 6: stuff like that, but he's invisible. So on psychedelics like
Speaker 6: at least like I've only done mushrooms, I've I've actually
Speaker 6: wanted to try acid once and just because that's another
Speaker 6: one that can tap into stuff. But definitely iawuasca at
Speaker 6: one point in my life, I air d MT. I
Speaker 6: really like to try that out just to see because
Speaker 6: I've had I've had people on that I've told me
Speaker 6: they have it's the craziest experience. It's like it's another dimension.
Speaker 6: But I've looked through these fractals and they look like
Speaker 6: tribal patterns, and at one point, which supposed to be
Speaker 6: you're only supposed to see on DMT, I've closed my
Speaker 6: eyes and I've seen like a thousand eyes.
Speaker 3: Looking at you.
Speaker 6: And people claim that that's angels too, because like there's
Speaker 6: writings about angels and how actually it's in the Bible.
Speaker 6: I can't remember what passage it is, but essentially there's
Speaker 6: somebody who was talking to an angel, look like a
Speaker 6: thousand eyes were looking at them, and I've I've had
Speaker 6: that experience, which is the craziest thing. I was laying
Speaker 6: down and I was actually watching stuff from woodstock the
Speaker 6: live stream and live stream, but like the footage now
Speaker 6: in four K from Woodstock, and because I always thought
Speaker 6: I was kind of a hippie in some regard to
Speaker 6: my wife's like you probably died out in that.
Speaker 3: Field, you know what I mean.
Speaker 6: And I remember like laying back seeing all these eyes
Speaker 6: and then I was like, no, not none of that.
Speaker 6: But I've looked through these fractals and I've seen what
Speaker 6: I thought was like a demonic force or something like
Speaker 6: that looking back at me through these like fractals. It's
Speaker 6: so hard to explain someone's ever done it. And I said,
Speaker 6: I told them. I was like, you don't have any
Speaker 6: hold over me, you have no power over me. You
Speaker 6: need to leave, you need to get away from me,
Speaker 6: because I've even one time I was watching James Brown,
Speaker 6: which is so weird because you watch weird things.
Speaker 3: You're like look at listening to.
Speaker 6: Music, and I was like, that guy's a lizard, like
Speaker 6: there's something weird about him. And my TV shut off
Speaker 6: and there were sounds coming from the TV. It was
Speaker 6: a bizarre experience, and I felt like that in that
Speaker 6: state of mind especially, it can be to be very
Speaker 6: scary for someone that's never in that type of stuff.
Speaker 6: Because I've used them so often, I was able to
Speaker 6: be like, no, I don't want you in my surrounding,
Speaker 6: you need to leave. And it was proved to me
Speaker 6: that there is things that are out there, and with
Speaker 6: the use of psychedelics and stuff like that, you're kind
Speaker 6: of able to like tap into it. I think even
Speaker 6: with weed you could to some extent, but I think
Speaker 6: edibles too. But I do think that with that it
Speaker 6: actually can invoke more lower energy vibrations because people all
Speaker 6: often get anxious when they're smoking weed and stuff like that, right,
Speaker 6: So I think those things are able to come in
Speaker 6: and attack you.
Speaker 5: I think, yeah, if you've got a lot of trauma
Speaker 5: or somebody you know, they haven't dealt with it and
Speaker 5: they do something like that, then yeah they because you've
Speaker 5: got still got all that dark energy within you, then yeah,
Speaker 5: they can come in and manipula shit.
Speaker 3: You never have it. If you're having a bad day,
Speaker 3: you should never touch that.
Speaker 5: Stuff, yeah yeah, Or if you haven't you got a
Speaker 5: lot of trauma you haven't dealt with Like I had
Speaker 5: the opportunity to do that probably twenty five years years ago,
Speaker 5: and I was I was in the midst of my
Speaker 5: trauma I was like, no, I'm not doing that. I
Speaker 5: didn't know much about it. But it was also the
Speaker 5: person leading it. They were new to you know that
Speaker 5: all that, So I wasn't going to do it with them.
Speaker 6: I do think it's experienced everyone should have before they
Speaker 6: leave this physical reality. I think it's it's worth it,
Speaker 6: even if you're older. Like they use it for people
Speaker 6: that are you know, uh, with cancer on a deathbed,
Speaker 6: and it makes them accept death and stuff a lot
Speaker 6: of times, especially psilocybin.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I've I mean I've I know people that
Speaker 5: have had great experiences and awake into a you know,
Speaker 5: spiritual side of themselves that they didn't even know. Like
Speaker 5: one woman, she didn't realize she was a shaman. She
Speaker 5: you know, went had that experience, she had this amazing
Speaker 5: shaman you know experience and vision during it.
Speaker 4: And now she you know.
Speaker 5: She took shaman training and that's what she's doing and
Speaker 5: and it's her passion, like she's just completely stepped into
Speaker 5: her true self. And so, but what you did there,
Speaker 5: if you feel like like say, something like that comes
Speaker 5: in whether you're on something or just here everyday life,
Speaker 5: and if you feel the fear, you're letting them come in.
Speaker 4: They will literally feed off you. They do.
Speaker 5: They feed off That's that's what keeps them alive. That's
Speaker 5: like fuel for them. And you know that's like food
Speaker 5: for them. And but when you say no, it's not happening,
Speaker 5: Like you got, they what they must leave. When you
Speaker 5: command them to leave, they must leave. If you're in fear,
Speaker 5: they can feed off you. But if you're if if you,
Speaker 5: like you said, you're in power there, when you say no,
Speaker 5: you have no right to be here.
Speaker 4: I do not want you here. You must leave now,
Speaker 4: they must leave.
Speaker 3: And that's what I find too interesting.
Speaker 6: It's like a kind of a rate like but I
Speaker 6: do I was like thinking, I was like, I do
Speaker 6: think some of the I would say, like sexual aspects
Speaker 6: of things that are going on, of them.
Speaker 3: Being able to feed off that energy.
Speaker 6: And I feel like that's why it's so old open
Speaker 6: in our uh in our society now that there's a
Speaker 6: lot of people that do to sex and there's only
Speaker 6: fans all this stuff that's been going on. I do
Speaker 6: think that they use that energy because that is the
Speaker 6: most raw harnessed energy, Like I know that you get
Speaker 6: into chakras and stuff. So it's interesting there will be
Speaker 6: people that I've heard about that like the red is
Speaker 6: I think like your your sexual chakra or whatever, right,
Speaker 6: and that people it's almost reversed, which you weirdly you
Speaker 6: see this on the Pride flag supposedly, is that your
Speaker 6: the chakras are actually turned upside down of the colors
Speaker 6: that they're supposed to be and they're feeding on just
Speaker 6: that energy that admits through this constant obsession with that
Speaker 6: and you see that in our society, and I do
Speaker 6: think that is part playing into it to some extent,
Speaker 6: Like do you think that is possible because like that's
Speaker 6: a very visceral energy.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, I believe that we're being gonna played
Speaker 5: in a lot of ways. And even though we don't
Speaker 5: know all the various ways we're manipulated. When you are aware,
Speaker 5: when you have some awareness and consciousness that you know what,
Speaker 5: I need to question this because am I could I
Speaker 5: be being manipulated or is this really a truth? Is
Speaker 5: it a truth for me? And is it a truth
Speaker 5: for my higher self? Asking questions is so powerful, But
Speaker 5: most people don't. I mean, they've dumbed down the population.
Speaker 5: So when you're you know when you've been dumbed down
Speaker 5: and told not to think, and we'll take care of
Speaker 5: you and just do what we say. Then you don't
Speaker 5: use often use critical thinking. And when you don't use
Speaker 5: questions in critical thinking, then you're so easy to manipulate.
Speaker 4: It doesn't have to be that way.
Speaker 5: When you ask questions, when you use critical thinking, when
Speaker 5: you stand in your power, you have powerful Even if
Speaker 5: somebody's got health issues and they're feeling really you know,
Speaker 5: they're feeling weak, and you know when you're feeling weak
Speaker 5: and helpless, I get it. It's tough to tap into
Speaker 5: that power. So call on call on archangel Michael. He
Speaker 5: will he will support you. And he supported me get
Speaker 5: you know, supported me and getting through some really tough
Speaker 5: times when I just thought I couldn't go on, I
Speaker 5: you know, called on my colone.
Speaker 4: There was one time when I just really needed energy.
Speaker 5: I needed to get through the past few past, next
Speaker 5: few days, and I called on my colone. I'm sure
Speaker 5: I still remember that it was time. That stands out
Speaker 5: because he got me through the next the next few days.
Speaker 5: So if you're you're not alone, and just that we're
Speaker 5: talking about the dark energies, so you know you're not alone, Well,
Speaker 5: there are benevolent higher power energies that are here to
Speaker 5: support you, that are way more powerful.
Speaker 4: And I want people to hear this.
Speaker 5: They're way more powerful than the darkness because the light.
Speaker 5: It's just like when you go in a dark room
Speaker 5: and turn on the light, the dark dissipates.
Speaker 4: And it's the same thing when you.
Speaker 5: Bring in the light and those higher consciousness beings, the
Speaker 5: dark dissipates and it has to leave. See, the dark
Speaker 5: can be easily manipulated, so it has to do with
Speaker 5: its tall where the light just flows in and it's gone.
Speaker 6: That's what I've heard too, is that you can like
Speaker 6: uh essentially like uh if you think, like if you
Speaker 6: picture especially I've heard during like astra projection stuff like that,
Speaker 6: if you picture like a your body covered in a
Speaker 6: ray of light, essentially absorbed by light, that you're able
Speaker 6: to like astra project and go through other realities without
Speaker 6: things harming you because like your your tether will always
Speaker 6: be connected to you. It's something that I tried, and
Speaker 6: I think at some point I will achieve it. But
Speaker 6: you that you're able to use your mind and it's
Speaker 6: more powerful than people believe, and I it's I love
Speaker 6: having people like you on because we've talked about controversial
Speaker 6: stuff on the show, like I you know, I've had
Speaker 6: dust Emoys is probably a very controversial figure that came
Speaker 6: on the show, and you know, the Christian world's ending,
Speaker 6: Lucifer is controlling a lot of the Zionist stuff like that,
Speaker 6: a lot of the darker aspects of our reality and
Speaker 6: coming to terms with that. But then I've always kind
Speaker 6: of leaned towards people like you that I've always thought,
Speaker 6: you know that I don't necessarily know if the God
Speaker 6: that the Christian or the Hindu or the Islamic, whatever
Speaker 6: religion it is, is trying to push upon us. I've
Speaker 6: always thought that when I'm praying, I'm praying to my
Speaker 6: higher self, whoever I am above this. I'm reaching out
Speaker 6: to whoever that is, because I've always heard that your
Speaker 6: spirit cannot exist in this dimension fully. So we talked
Speaker 6: about dreams recently, in the idea that maybe you're traveling
Speaker 6: to places within your dreams and then your brain overlays
Speaker 6: an image of dreams and things going on in your
Speaker 6: own life, but you're able to travel because your soul
Speaker 6: doesn't really need to be there for some of these
Speaker 6: or when you're sleeping and stuff like that. But I've
Speaker 6: always thought, like, I don't know, I've never been drawn
Speaker 6: to this idea of religion, especially organized religion. I always
Speaker 6: thought that that you're just kind of connecting to whoever
Speaker 6: you are above this m you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I don't. I don't. I don't adhere to religion.
Speaker 5: But spirituality, See, religion often separates, spirituality unite. But ultimately
Speaker 5: what spirituality says, religion will say, my God is the best,
Speaker 5: or believe in this, it's the best. And that's why
Speaker 5: it separates. Where religion says, you know, there is a
Speaker 5: greater power than us. There are benevolent beings and benevolent
Speaker 5: power that wants to support you.
Speaker 4: Support.
Speaker 3: Every religion says the same thing.
Speaker 4: Yeah the ones.
Speaker 5: Yeah, ultimately I believe where all the religions are ultimately
Speaker 5: saying the same thing, at least the vast majority of them.
Speaker 4: It's just again, it's that believe what I believe.
Speaker 5: It's that mentality where religion unites and says, you know,
Speaker 5: let's all work together for the greater good. Let's all
Speaker 5: work together for happiness and joyfulness and abundance and flow
Speaker 5: and ease and enjoying life like I remember when I
Speaker 5: when I was a kid, and I didn't remember this
Speaker 5: growing up, but as I've been on the path, I
Speaker 5: the utopian vision of you know the world and humanity
Speaker 5: where everybody who's happy and hugging each other, and it
Speaker 5: was just all you know, it was all happiness and
Speaker 5: that we I mean, we're not going to achieve that
Speaker 5: in this lifetime, but that can that can happen. It
Speaker 5: might take several lifetimes, but it can happen within you.
Speaker 5: What you believe you can be that the point of
Speaker 5: where that starts, believing in life come from your heart. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I next your mind and your heart.
Speaker 3: I agree with that.
Speaker 6: That's why I've never been a fan of religion in
Speaker 6: some regards of like, you know, you see this within Christianity,
Speaker 6: like I I you know, I was baptized as a kid,
Speaker 6: and I've talked to a lot of Christians on the show.
Speaker 6: A lot of my friends are Christian, and one of
Speaker 6: my good friends is Jehovah, and they're out of all religions,
Speaker 6: seem to be the most awake and aware and also
Speaker 6: kind and loving. And I'm not saying Muslims aren't like that,
Speaker 6: but there is extreme like and I don't even like
Speaker 6: the word extremists because my beliefs are considered extreme to
Speaker 6: people nowadays.
Speaker 3: But I think things.
Speaker 6: That we're very normal twenty eight years ago in the
Speaker 6: in the regards of who we are and our nationalities
Speaker 6: and all that kind of stuff. But you see this
Speaker 6: within kind of religions is like, you know, Islam is
Speaker 6: like kill the infidels if they don't agree with us.
Speaker 6: And you see this kind of with Israel and Palestine
Speaker 6: of oh, we're the chosen people, And how do you
Speaker 6: know that? How do you think that you're just a
Speaker 6: connection and a spiritual line to God because because somebody
Speaker 6: told you you were, And I never have liked that
Speaker 6: aspect of it, of you must believe what we believe,
Speaker 6: or essentially will kill.
Speaker 3: You and I.
Speaker 6: And that's why I'm like, they're there's got to be
Speaker 6: this bridge that needs to be gapped between religions and
Speaker 6: understanding of what is going on in the world and
Speaker 6: being able to bring people together, not under the banner
Speaker 6: of religion, but under the banner of like, hey, uh,
Speaker 6: there's us and then there's them, the government or the
Speaker 6: people that are really in control pulling the pupa strings,
Speaker 6: the oligarchs, the bankers that are really controlling things right uh,
Speaker 6: and like and that's like that could be a topic
Speaker 6: for another day.
Speaker 3: I would love to get you back on the show, but.
Speaker 6: Even I would be interested in maybe doing some sort
Speaker 6: of you know, spiritual healing channeling, like you know, to
Speaker 6: kind of end it off and to kind of bring
Speaker 6: all of us kind of together, you know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, let's do that. We'll create a really
Speaker 5: beautiful energy here. So okay, so just take a deep
Speaker 5: breath in as much as you're willing, just allow yourself
Speaker 5: to be filled up with the life force energy and okay, yeah,
Speaker 5: there's some fear coming up, so we're gonna start. We're
Speaker 5: just witnessing, identifying, and acknowledging the fear. Yes, we see
Speaker 5: you and all the ways fear. All emotions have consciousness.
Speaker 5: So we're talking to the consciousness of fear, all the
Speaker 5: ways fear you have been instructed to to all the
Speaker 5: ways you have been instructed fear to feed off humanity
Speaker 5: and to feed off this person. We release your instructions,
Speaker 5: and we release the power you believe you have to
Speaker 5: feed off humanity and to feed off each of us
Speaker 5: as individuals, and we release the fear within you, so
Speaker 5: that you are no longer vibrational match for that fear. Okay,
Speaker 5: all the ways you believe you need that fear, all
Speaker 5: the ways you believe you need the fear to stay alive,
Speaker 5: all the ways you believe everybody in your life is
Speaker 5: a vibrational match with that fear. So therefore you must
Speaker 5: stay in the that fear. All the ways of fear
Speaker 5: is causing you to stay stuck in helplessness and powerlessness.
Speaker 4: Let's witness all of that.
Speaker 5: You can always take it back by saying no afterwards
Speaker 5: or any time you feel like you know feeling the
Speaker 5: fear again. It's your choice, It's always your choice. But
Speaker 5: for now, just imagine that you let all of that go.
Speaker 5: You let the fear, the helplessness, the powerless, just let
Speaker 5: it go and you connect it to your heart. So
Speaker 5: just pay attention to your heart, feel into your heart,
Speaker 5: and just let yourself be filled up with a beautiful, radiant,
Speaker 5: golden ray of light, grace, beauty. Let your heart, your
Speaker 5: entire self, be filled up with that beautiful divine light,
Speaker 5: the divine presence. You're being filled up in this moment,
Speaker 5: with divine presence.
Speaker 4: That radiates from you.
Speaker 5: That golden light and divine presence, and now you become
Speaker 5: a vibrational match for higher consciousness, for beauty, for grace,
Speaker 5: for fun, laughter, gratitude, appreciation. This is creating in the
Speaker 5: New Earth, creating in the New Earth that higher vibrational
Speaker 5: space in place.
Speaker 4: There you go.
Speaker 5: And in this place, fear, fear cannot enter. Fear is
Speaker 5: not a vibrational match. So anytime you're feeling the fear,
Speaker 5: command it, command it from the power within you. Fear,
Speaker 5: you must leave. Now you are not wanted here. Take
Speaker 5: a deep breath in, just let that go. Let your
Speaker 5: heart fill up with that golden ray of light, of beauty, girl,
Speaker 5: race of that divine presence. Be you radiate divine presence,
Speaker 5: and you feel the power, the divine power and that presence.
Speaker 5: And from that place you align with other beings, other spaces,
Speaker 5: other energies of that beautiful, radiant, benevolent, benevolence, feeling light, joyful, expansive, happy,
Speaker 5: and ground into that ground, into the power of divine presence,
Speaker 5: ground into the divine power of courage, of strength. Feel
Speaker 5: that in every cell of your body, of your beanness,
Speaker 5: of your presence. Take a deep breath in, Let that go.
Speaker 5: And now as we go into light language, we are
Speaker 5: going to awaken that even in a greater way within
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Speaker 3: That was that was great.
Speaker 6: I actually like it's weird because like you know, like
Speaker 6: I don't know, like people may not think or believe
Speaker 6: it stuff. But like I dodn't open my eyes because
Speaker 6: I was gonna go into some trance because I've I've
Speaker 6: listened to stuff like the kind of meditation spiritual healing
Speaker 6: stuff like especially when I was younger, uh to kind
Speaker 6: of clear my thoughts. And I definitely felt like I
Speaker 6: always explain of the egg thing of like you know
Speaker 6: when you're a kid and someone cracks a fake egg
Speaker 6: over your head and you can feel like their fingers
Speaker 6: touching you. I and and we've been like I've been
Speaker 6: to like an alien conference where I've talked to, like
Speaker 6: a psychic. I talked to hypnotherapist who tried to I
Speaker 6: was I was stoned at the time, and just he
Speaker 6: just relaxed me. But even the one guy was like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 6: like you always get this feeling on the back of
Speaker 6: your head and I always do it. Even the wife
Speaker 6: was like, yeah, he's he's like always referencing this. But
Speaker 6: that felt really nice, And like, I do think that
Speaker 6: there is a you can bring about these energies by
Speaker 6: speaking in my calming people, if especially if you're grounded
Speaker 6: in your own energy. And I can say one hundred
Speaker 6: percent felt that like I felt it in especially hear
Speaker 6: the end. I felt like essentially this rush over my head.
Speaker 6: And I hope that the audience that listen to this,
Speaker 6: you know, if you're driving or doing something else, definitely
Speaker 6: take the time to maybe go back and then you know,
Speaker 6: maybe before bed or something like that, listen to the
Speaker 6: end and allow yourself to kind of drift off and
Speaker 6: get to that state. I actually really appreciate that. That
Speaker 6: did felt good. It felt cleansing. Uh you know, so
Speaker 6: we maybe think it's weird, but like I've always been
Speaker 6: into this stuff. I think more than the audience even
Speaker 6: knows because we we're you know, we're a comedy podcast.
Speaker 6: We definitely talk about funny, like we'd make jokes about
Speaker 6: Bigfoot and all the weird things that are going on
Speaker 6: in the world, the reptilians and aliens. But I've always
Speaker 6: been someone very connected to the idea of my own
Speaker 6: spiritual beliefs and the fact that there is a connection
Speaker 6: outside of this reality that we we don't understand, right,
Speaker 6: And I think that the more you know, I've I've
Speaker 6: been I've been held down by anger a lot of
Speaker 6: my life, and the positive energies need to kind of
Speaker 6: be let out and and and you know, I appreciate
Speaker 6: that that actually felt really good.
Speaker 3: Not gonna lie. And so I want you to tell
Speaker 3: everyone where to find you.
Speaker 6: You know, at some point, definitely I would bring you
Speaker 6: back on the show and we can talk about all
Speaker 6: sorts of our things, but uh, at least for now,
Speaker 6: like tell the people like where to find you and
Speaker 6: all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3: You know, I appreciate you coming on.
Speaker 5: Sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: My website's the best place is Courage in Action. So
Speaker 5: COURAGEI naction dot com and if they want a free ebook,
Speaker 5: it's messages from spirits. So these are channel messages and
Speaker 5: some are written. There's also some MP threes there. They
Speaker 5: can get a free book on the website, and you know,
Speaker 5: I've got MP three's available there and some different programs
Speaker 5: and my services and such.
Speaker 4: But it's courage Inaction dot com.
Speaker 3: Awesome that I appreciate you coming on.
Speaker 6: That was a good conversation, and it's always like refreshing
Speaker 6: to talk to people like you, like I thought, you know,
Speaker 6: to the I might get Doctor backle Back on the
Speaker 6: show too, but like even like he was a similar
Speaker 6: spiritual healing and you know, I mean, I should aim
Speaker 6: to have some more people on like you that are
Speaker 6: a little more positive because I'm like sometimes I've had
Speaker 6: people on there like, yeah, the world's coming to an
Speaker 6: end and they're bringing about World War three and all
Speaker 6: the things that are going on in the world, you know,
Speaker 6: and some of the stuff that we even talked about
Speaker 6: on the show regarding more of the serious aspect of
Speaker 6: things where we're not really diving more of the comedy aspects.
Speaker 6: So it is it's refreshing. I thank you for coming on,
Speaker 6: and I feel cleansed. I feel in a good movie.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 4: Thanks for having me Tom awesome.
Speaker 6: Okay, so I'll play the intro our outro and you
Speaker 6: can go when you feel free to and then yeah,
Speaker 6: we'll reconnect for sure.
Speaker 4: Okay, thanks, thank you,