WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:02.480 Oh my god, is that Nico Bliz trying to treat that? 2 00:00:04.080 --> 00:00:07.639 Tell me hear me? When you up, I gotta dash. 3 00:00:08.119 --> 00:00:10.519 There are things told the twitter and moving fast. Take 4 00:00:10.560 --> 00:00:13.359 the price and want the guy? What do I did 5 00:00:13.400 --> 00:00:15.720 it up to the gas? Put it up and get 6 00:00:15.720 --> 00:00:26.320 it jump and winter blow to bring me. They gather 7 00:00:29.679 --> 00:00:37.960 gonna ask tin up real fasts to real. You can't 8 00:00:38.000 --> 00:00:42.119 blame me, She can't blame me. This is the black 9 00:00:42.119 --> 00:00:44.679 and brown bird mine ride. This is exactly what it 10 00:00:44.719 --> 00:00:49.320 should I could put that on. Mom's in the piece 11 00:00:49.320 --> 00:00:56.280 hood knowing how to bring it. She gotta take up. 12 00:00:58.159 --> 00:01:02.200 Uh huh show does he? 13 00:01:02.280 --> 00:01:04.959 How on? Let's get it. 14 00:01:05.200 --> 00:01:05.959 How you feel, man? 15 00:01:06.120 --> 00:01:07.840 I feel good. I'm glad to be here today. 16 00:01:07.920 --> 00:01:08.480 And there you go. 17 00:01:08.560 --> 00:01:11.439 It's good to finally meet you in person. Big fan 18 00:01:11.519 --> 00:01:13.959 of work. And yeah, thank you guys for having me. 19 00:01:14.000 --> 00:01:15.920 No man. Shout out to Nico Blitz for the intro. 20 00:01:16.040 --> 00:01:19.359 Right there, my guy, right here, man, go back here, 21 00:01:19.400 --> 00:01:23.439 we go way back, and it's it's good to you know. Uh, 22 00:01:23.640 --> 00:01:26.799 it's like a reunion when I see him. 23 00:01:26.920 --> 00:01:27.120 Union. 24 00:01:27.840 --> 00:01:30.400 I met like a lot of great people through Nico 25 00:01:30.519 --> 00:01:33.159 and he's always being in my corner. Man. So shout 26 00:01:33.159 --> 00:01:34.000 out to Nico Blitz. 27 00:01:34.319 --> 00:01:35.959 Yeah, he brought you up and was like, yo, like 28 00:01:35.959 --> 00:01:37.719 we should get him in here. So let's do it, man, 29 00:01:37.799 --> 00:01:38.480 let's go man. 30 00:01:38.599 --> 00:01:40.519 You know, does he make me feel like I'm promotion 31 00:01:40.640 --> 00:01:41.400 side sometimes? 32 00:01:41.439 --> 00:01:44.799 That's right man, you know, it's it's it's the unity 33 00:01:45.120 --> 00:01:48.959 and the fun of the funk that the genre that 34 00:01:49.000 --> 00:01:49.319 I make. 35 00:01:49.439 --> 00:01:52.439 You know, you mentioned reunion right Like, every video and 36 00:01:52.560 --> 00:01:55.280 every session sounds like there's a reunion going on. 37 00:01:55.319 --> 00:01:55.840 It looks like this. 38 00:01:56.000 --> 00:01:59.000 It's like almost like it's like barbecue. Like you know 39 00:01:59.000 --> 00:02:01.040 what I'm saying. It's a barbecue. You invite, you invite 40 00:02:01.040 --> 00:02:03.319 every all your loved ones, you know, and everybody shows 41 00:02:03.319 --> 00:02:05.359 out and they have a good time. You know. That's 42 00:02:05.400 --> 00:02:06.799 that's what it's all about, is the unity. 43 00:02:06.879 --> 00:02:10.719 Ocean Side is available everywhere all streaming platforms like Graduate. 44 00:02:10.759 --> 00:02:13.599 Yes, sir, yes, thank you. Yes. Right now, I'm on 45 00:02:13.639 --> 00:02:15.599 a tour and I was just talking to Nico about 46 00:02:15.919 --> 00:02:18.080 the tour and and and how you know, I put 47 00:02:18.080 --> 00:02:21.280 it together because I'm an independent artist, you know, I do. 48 00:02:21.960 --> 00:02:24.319 I do the bookings for the for the for the tour, 49 00:02:24.560 --> 00:02:28.360 and right now we're about to be in Vegas on Friday, 50 00:02:28.960 --> 00:02:30.639 but that was This is the show that I'm doing 51 00:02:30.960 --> 00:02:34.319 in Vegas with Keep the Sneak, and I took on 52 00:02:34.360 --> 00:02:36.840 a couple of shows with Keik. They're doing like a 53 00:02:38.199 --> 00:02:41.680 the proceeds are going to like a special study that's 54 00:02:42.280 --> 00:02:44.439 possibly going to be able to make him walk again. 55 00:02:44.840 --> 00:02:45.080 Wow. 56 00:02:45.759 --> 00:02:49.759 Yeah, For people that don't know, Keik has been paralygic 57 00:02:49.840 --> 00:02:52.479 for a little while now and there's. 58 00:02:52.319 --> 00:02:53.680 Just through like stem cell research. 59 00:02:53.919 --> 00:02:56.199 Yes, yes, I don't know the details behind it, but 60 00:02:56.240 --> 00:02:59.159 I do know that the it's called the King of 61 00:02:59.240 --> 00:03:02.759 Hyphi Tour and it's a set of dates that are 62 00:03:02.840 --> 00:03:06.240 raising money for the research for him to possibly walk. So, 63 00:03:06.919 --> 00:03:08.719 you know, I'm glad to be that. I'm glad to 64 00:03:08.759 --> 00:03:10.719 be able to be a part of things like that 65 00:03:10.800 --> 00:03:13.159 and and just being the loop with great artists like 66 00:03:13.240 --> 00:03:15.240 Keep the Sneak. You know, we grew up on Keek. 67 00:03:16.159 --> 00:03:19.560 You know, he's a big staple to California and Northern California. 68 00:03:19.680 --> 00:03:22.120 So it's great being able to be around these arts. 69 00:03:22.240 --> 00:03:23.599 It was great to see him in the video. Yeah 70 00:03:23.639 --> 00:03:26.159 he's in the wheelchair man and yeah, it's all good. 71 00:03:26.199 --> 00:03:29.199 Like he's showing it, he's not hiding from it, right, 72 00:03:29.319 --> 00:03:31.879 and some of that can hurt your pride maybe or 73 00:03:32.280 --> 00:03:35.120 make you insecure, really just hurt you in a way 74 00:03:35.120 --> 00:03:36.199 where you don't want to be seen. 75 00:03:36.319 --> 00:03:38.439 But he's being seen. He got that camera on him. Bro. 76 00:03:38.560 --> 00:03:40.319 You really have to realize that. You know, at one 77 00:03:40.319 --> 00:03:44.159 point he had one of the biggest songs out, you know, 78 00:03:44.439 --> 00:03:49.319 and to go from that to to you know, having 79 00:03:49.360 --> 00:03:51.560 to depend on people to get you around is it's 80 00:03:51.560 --> 00:03:54.120 you know, it's a it's a mind thing. And I 81 00:03:54.120 --> 00:03:56.000 have a lot of love and respect for Keik for 82 00:03:56.240 --> 00:04:01.120 just still being very positive, you know, and very eager 83 00:04:01.199 --> 00:04:03.960 to work still under the conditions. You know. 84 00:04:04.159 --> 00:04:05.680 Yeah, but from. 85 00:04:05.560 --> 00:04:08.319 What I understand, like, respect is obviously a big thing 86 00:04:08.439 --> 00:04:10.560 for you, right, and it's probably because of the way 87 00:04:10.599 --> 00:04:13.199 you grew up and the people around you, with your elders, 88 00:04:13.280 --> 00:04:14.759 right and the big homies. 89 00:04:15.159 --> 00:04:15.280 Right. 90 00:04:15.520 --> 00:04:18.839 You got a song on Ocean Side called Sae, right, 91 00:04:18.879 --> 00:04:21.160 who is obviously you know the football player that we 92 00:04:21.240 --> 00:04:22.000 lost right from. 93 00:04:21.959 --> 00:04:23.079 Ocean Side, correct. 94 00:04:23.120 --> 00:04:25.120 Yeah, Yeah, and like that's like you know for the 95 00:04:25.160 --> 00:04:27.000 dead homie, right, Like, and you you know, you have 96 00:04:27.120 --> 00:04:29.839 his his his voice and the music as well. 97 00:04:30.199 --> 00:04:33.839 Yeah, So Junior Sale is a big stable to the 98 00:04:33.879 --> 00:04:36.600 Ocean Side. Community. He's he's done things and left the 99 00:04:36.680 --> 00:04:40.120 legacy to to where it'll live for generations. You know, 100 00:04:40.199 --> 00:04:42.600 he's they have they have the Junior Sale Foundation, they 101 00:04:42.600 --> 00:04:44.920 have the Junior Sale Community Center, and they have programs 102 00:04:44.959 --> 00:04:47.800 that have made a big impact in the community. So 103 00:04:48.160 --> 00:04:51.639 for for him, for for people like us, you know, uh, 104 00:04:51.959 --> 00:04:53.959 people that are up and coming, he's kind of like 105 00:04:54.079 --> 00:04:57.240 somebody that we really look up to the Junior Sale, 106 00:04:57.279 --> 00:04:59.920 you know, and his impact and on the city of 107 00:05:00.040 --> 00:05:00.560 Ocean Side. 108 00:05:00.600 --> 00:05:04.120 Yeah, man, swap Meat took me back to a time where, 109 00:05:04.199 --> 00:05:06.160 like because I grew up in the swap meet, right, 110 00:05:06.279 --> 00:05:08.000 like back to school shop and all that was done 111 00:05:08.040 --> 00:05:08.759 at the swap meet. 112 00:05:08.920 --> 00:05:11.600 Yeah, you know, vibe shirts for twenty bucks. 113 00:05:11.079 --> 00:05:15.720 Before you know, getting ready to go back to school. 114 00:05:15.920 --> 00:05:17.879 You know, during the summers, like we would go there 115 00:05:17.920 --> 00:05:22.399 to get all of our everything out feel its brand 116 00:05:22.399 --> 00:05:24.959 new shoes were purchased there, and it was a hustle. 117 00:05:25.040 --> 00:05:28.680 That was the beautiful thing. It was people that are 118 00:05:28.720 --> 00:05:30.680 making a hustle, they're making a living, you know, and 119 00:05:30.720 --> 00:05:33.240 it's like you would see even people I would be 120 00:05:33.279 --> 00:05:35.399 out there sometimes selling CDs back in the day. I've 121 00:05:35.439 --> 00:05:37.279 been doing this. I've been doing this since the days 122 00:05:37.279 --> 00:05:40.199 of CDs and pressing CDs and being out there and 123 00:05:40.199 --> 00:05:42.800 doing the footwork of hey, you know, this is my record, 124 00:05:42.839 --> 00:05:44.720 you know, and you get a lot of turndowns, you know. 125 00:05:44.800 --> 00:05:47.480 And and right now we're in the era of the 126 00:05:47.560 --> 00:05:49.319 Internet where a lot of things are given to you. 127 00:05:49.319 --> 00:05:50.839 You don't even have to walk up to somebody and 128 00:05:50.879 --> 00:05:52.800 introduce yourself. You just put the music out there and 129 00:05:52.839 --> 00:05:55.959 it finds the people. It's a different era. It's a 130 00:05:55.959 --> 00:05:58.759 different era. And to be able to adapt and see 131 00:05:58.759 --> 00:06:02.480 the evolution of how music has come, it's it's crazy 132 00:06:02.519 --> 00:06:03.680 as a longevity thing, you know. 133 00:06:03.759 --> 00:06:05.759 And some of the CDs were you did you have 134 00:06:05.800 --> 00:06:07.120 a stand or was it in the parking? 135 00:06:07.240 --> 00:06:09.040 No, it was just you know, my act she worked 136 00:06:09.040 --> 00:06:12.279 at a junior college, so I would go there to 137 00:06:12.360 --> 00:06:14.800 shrink wrap my CDs. I would purchase my CDs at 138 00:06:14.879 --> 00:06:19.399 you know, like a supply store, put it together, burn 139 00:06:19.480 --> 00:06:21.120 the CD and then I would go shrink wrap it 140 00:06:21.160 --> 00:06:23.399 at my my AST's job, and then I would hit 141 00:06:23.439 --> 00:06:26.120 the streets with the Duffel bag and you know, hey, hey, 142 00:06:26.600 --> 00:06:28.639 c you know. And it was crazy because back in 143 00:06:28.639 --> 00:06:31.120 the day you see people with like the headphones and 144 00:06:31.160 --> 00:06:34.040 the CD players, you know, like go to Venice. That 145 00:06:34.160 --> 00:06:36.480 was crazy. It was a thing. Yeah, yeah, so you 146 00:06:36.519 --> 00:06:38.319 know I seen I seen it all. You know, I've 147 00:06:38.319 --> 00:06:40.120 seen it all. I've seen it all. 148 00:06:40.199 --> 00:06:43.000 I mean, yo, that's like, that's how nip got started 149 00:06:43.120 --> 00:06:44.040 pushing the CD in. 150 00:06:44.040 --> 00:06:46.600 The street, right, A lot of the greatest artists had 151 00:06:47.199 --> 00:06:48.040 come from out the truck. 152 00:06:48.560 --> 00:06:52.480 So Hope did that master p did that fifty did that. 153 00:06:52.480 --> 00:06:54.959 CDs dog pushing them, you know what I mean, trying 154 00:06:55.000 --> 00:06:56.959 to get anyone to buy one copy. 155 00:06:57.240 --> 00:06:59.639 Right right, And it's a lot of it's a lot 156 00:06:59.639 --> 00:07:02.959 of how would you say, it's intimidating, you know, it's 157 00:07:02.959 --> 00:07:06.279 intimidating and that feeling, Yeah, that feeling like you don't 158 00:07:06.279 --> 00:07:09.000 really get that with with how music is put out today, 159 00:07:09.199 --> 00:07:11.199 especially with the streaming and all that, it's it's a 160 00:07:11.199 --> 00:07:15.319 different game. Music's not sold really no more. It's all streamed, so. 161 00:07:15.959 --> 00:07:16.480 Noa for sure. 162 00:07:16.519 --> 00:07:20.639 It's like, yeah, hard tickets, hard copies, Like it's just 163 00:07:20.680 --> 00:07:22.720 it's tough, man. I'm sure it's like that with books 164 00:07:22.759 --> 00:07:24.959 as well. Right, everybody's you know, getting digital books. I 165 00:07:25.399 --> 00:07:27.759 fucking listened to book on tape, you know what I'm saying. 166 00:07:29.120 --> 00:07:30.000 I'll get a book. 167 00:07:30.199 --> 00:07:32.519 Yeah, I'll stream a book all day. Run up the 168 00:07:32.600 --> 00:07:36.120 numbers man, Yo. Soul Food project was in twenty fifteen. 169 00:07:36.800 --> 00:07:39.480 Yes, that that was. That was like one of the 170 00:07:40.480 --> 00:07:44.199 first projects that kind of like broke like the local 171 00:07:44.319 --> 00:07:46.600 local scene for me, you know. It made a name 172 00:07:46.639 --> 00:07:49.279 for myself. I had a song on there called Oe 173 00:07:49.480 --> 00:07:51.720 and that was like one of the first songs that 174 00:07:51.839 --> 00:07:54.959 kind of like shook my area. 175 00:07:55.240 --> 00:07:55.439 It was. 176 00:07:55.639 --> 00:07:57.600 It was released at a time where like YouTube was 177 00:07:57.839 --> 00:08:01.920 just on the rise. I put that video out on 178 00:08:01.959 --> 00:08:04.920 YouTube and then me, my whole thing was like consistency. 179 00:08:05.000 --> 00:08:07.680 So after that project, I put on another project, another project, 180 00:08:07.680 --> 00:08:14.240 but I kept shooting videos. It was most importantly very 181 00:08:14.240 --> 00:08:17.560 important to be in people's faces, you know. So I 182 00:08:17.639 --> 00:08:19.480 was like on a routine where I would release like 183 00:08:19.560 --> 00:08:21.920 two to three videos a month, and that was like 184 00:08:21.959 --> 00:08:24.800 my whole get up, the whole consistency thing. You've seen 185 00:08:24.839 --> 00:08:28.600 some great artists come up out of that, releasing constantly, 186 00:08:28.680 --> 00:08:32.600 like you know, initially it was like Russ and then 187 00:08:32.600 --> 00:08:34.679 now we have like, you know, who's a good artist, 188 00:08:34.960 --> 00:08:37.240 one of the homie g pre coos doing that, and 189 00:08:37.279 --> 00:08:40.320 it's all like a streaming, you know, like consistently putting 190 00:08:40.360 --> 00:08:41.799 out music back. 191 00:08:41.639 --> 00:08:43.559 In the day. I remember on YouTube it was like 192 00:08:43.639 --> 00:08:46.120 big Sean mac Miller. They were just dropping. 193 00:08:45.919 --> 00:08:47.639 Video yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 194 00:08:47.679 --> 00:08:49.919 It was like who are these dudes? Right? And then 195 00:08:50.759 --> 00:08:52.720 now look at it, right, I mean it took off right. 196 00:08:52.759 --> 00:08:54.519 But in twenty fifteen, were you in the mindset were like, 197 00:08:54.720 --> 00:08:56.840 I'm just gonna drop this album, maybe one more, make 198 00:08:56.879 --> 00:08:57.960 a million dollars in I'm. 199 00:08:57.799 --> 00:09:01.200 Out at that time, and I just really wanted to 200 00:09:02.600 --> 00:09:04.159 make a name for myself at the time. You know, 201 00:09:04.200 --> 00:09:07.039 I didn't really know what I was gonna what to expect, 202 00:09:07.120 --> 00:09:10.639 or I didn't know that it would take that long 203 00:09:10.720 --> 00:09:13.559 to get to where I'm at now. I don't think 204 00:09:13.600 --> 00:09:17.360 anybody knows that, and luckily I didn't because I didn't. 205 00:09:18.360 --> 00:09:20.120 Went through a lot to just be able to sit 206 00:09:20.200 --> 00:09:22.840 right here with you. You know, it's it's a good feeling. 207 00:09:23.320 --> 00:09:25.960 But I learned a lot, though, from then till now 208 00:09:26.519 --> 00:09:29.279 at a lot about the industry, about how important it 209 00:09:29.320 --> 00:09:32.639 is to have the relationships with people and to keep 210 00:09:32.639 --> 00:09:36.159 those relationships, you know, and recognize the people that are 211 00:09:36.200 --> 00:09:39.480 initially in your corner, because they'll be there, you know, 212 00:09:39.519 --> 00:09:41.000 when you really need them. For sure. 213 00:09:41.159 --> 00:09:43.080 What was the toughest show you've had coming up. 214 00:09:43.320 --> 00:09:48.720 The toughest show. I still have tough shows. It just depends. 215 00:09:48.759 --> 00:09:51.360 You know. When I first started off, I think I 216 00:09:51.399 --> 00:09:53.639 was doing like small little hole in the wall bars, 217 00:09:53.720 --> 00:09:56.720 you know, where it was just the family showing up. 218 00:09:57.159 --> 00:09:59.679 And now it's like I'm able to do these these 219 00:09:59.679 --> 00:10:04.440 big like arenas and you know, concert venues. But I 220 00:10:04.480 --> 00:10:06.799 still have times where I'll do like private events and 221 00:10:06.840 --> 00:10:09.200 it's just a couple of people there. You know. It's 222 00:10:09.240 --> 00:10:11.080 really what you make of it. I like to have 223 00:10:11.080 --> 00:10:14.519 fun wherever I'm at, whatever I'm doing, we're gonna have fun. 224 00:10:14.639 --> 00:10:15.080 For sure. 225 00:10:16.000 --> 00:10:17.759 What year was that, I think it was in like 226 00:10:17.799 --> 00:10:21.000 twenty nineteen when you had like a DJ like one 227 00:10:21.039 --> 00:10:23.879 of your shows in like a like behind a barber shop. 228 00:10:23.960 --> 00:10:28.519 Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. It was like a pop up. 229 00:10:28.559 --> 00:10:30.279 It was like a pop up show that we had. 230 00:10:30.360 --> 00:10:33.120 I had to come out for it, and yeah, it 231 00:10:33.159 --> 00:10:34.480 was like a backyard boogie, you know. 232 00:10:35.519 --> 00:10:36.679 It felt very homey, bro. 233 00:10:36.879 --> 00:10:37.679 Yeah yeah yeah. 234 00:10:37.600 --> 00:10:41.600 Yeah, but you're competing with like what's outside, and you know, 235 00:10:41.679 --> 00:10:44.559 the the buzzing of the machines, like yo, it's a lot, right. 236 00:10:44.480 --> 00:10:50.799 Yeah yeah yeah, yeah, man, it's no there's No, there's 237 00:10:50.799 --> 00:10:54.440 no like things things like you can't let like certain 238 00:10:54.440 --> 00:10:56.320 things get in your way of what you know is 239 00:10:56.360 --> 00:11:00.559 to come, you know, like small things that like kind 240 00:11:00.559 --> 00:11:02.240 of like come up out of nowhere, or even like 241 00:11:02.600 --> 00:11:05.200 for instance, like smaller shows, like you can't really be like, 242 00:11:05.279 --> 00:11:08.720 oh man, like this is not what I expected. It's 243 00:11:08.759 --> 00:11:12.000 like what what's gonna come to you is gonna come? 244 00:11:12.399 --> 00:11:14.440 You just gotta like make the best out of whatever 245 00:11:14.600 --> 00:11:16.759 is like presently happening, you know, because at the end 246 00:11:16.759 --> 00:11:18.240 of the day, you still got ship to do m 247 00:11:18.759 --> 00:11:21.120 and you got to keep on going right. And then also, 248 00:11:21.200 --> 00:11:23.399 you know, some people are there that have traveled far 249 00:11:23.440 --> 00:11:26.080 to see you, so it's like you never know what 250 00:11:26.120 --> 00:11:29.080 they went through to get there to meet you or 251 00:11:29.480 --> 00:11:32.960 to have a conversation with you. So you really can't 252 00:11:32.960 --> 00:11:35.080 take nothing for granted. You know, no matter what the 253 00:11:35.159 --> 00:11:37.759 turnout is, you just gotta just roll with it and 254 00:11:38.279 --> 00:11:39.240 make the best out of it. 255 00:11:39.440 --> 00:11:41.600 Yeah, man, it was Black and Brown with Jail Felony 256 00:11:41.639 --> 00:11:43.080 and Lil Robber. Was that a song where you're like 257 00:11:43.519 --> 00:11:46.039 that's it, Like yeah, like almost like I made a moment. 258 00:11:46.799 --> 00:11:49.080 You know, Jail Felony and Little rob they've never done 259 00:11:49.120 --> 00:11:51.960 a song together. They're both from San Diego County, and 260 00:11:52.120 --> 00:11:54.600 I would say I would say just off of like 261 00:11:57.000 --> 00:11:58.720 I would have said that they're like the two most 262 00:11:58.799 --> 00:12:01.000 established artists, you know that to come out of San Diego. 263 00:12:01.080 --> 00:12:03.440 But they're very they've they've done, they left the legacy 264 00:12:03.440 --> 00:12:06.519 for themselves, you know. So to put put them too 265 00:12:06.600 --> 00:12:09.360 on the same record and have the meaning and concept 266 00:12:09.360 --> 00:12:11.679 behind it to be the unity of black and brown, 267 00:12:11.720 --> 00:12:14.000 it meant it meant the world to me for them 268 00:12:14.039 --> 00:12:18.240 both to get on the record. They're definitely big influences 269 00:12:18.240 --> 00:12:21.759 and almost heroes in the community. So I want to 270 00:12:21.759 --> 00:12:23.919 shoot that record with both of them in it. I 271 00:12:23.919 --> 00:12:26.919 think the only issues would be like making sure that 272 00:12:26.919 --> 00:12:30.159 the people come are on the same same vibe, you know, 273 00:12:31.080 --> 00:12:34.919 the the unity is there, you know, but for the 274 00:12:34.919 --> 00:12:38.000 most part, yeah, right right, But for the most part though, 275 00:12:38.039 --> 00:12:41.840 you know, the song, yeah, the song is respectful, you know, 276 00:12:41.960 --> 00:12:44.399 it's it's just it's a unity song. So for me, 277 00:12:44.519 --> 00:12:46.159 when I made the record, I thought of it as 278 00:12:46.200 --> 00:12:49.080 like a as like an anthem, you know, for for 279 00:12:49.120 --> 00:12:52.639 the for the community of Oceanside all the way down 280 00:12:52.679 --> 00:12:55.679 to San Diego, you know, all the way up here, 281 00:12:55.720 --> 00:13:00.240 you know, it's really it's really uh, it was really 282 00:13:00.240 --> 00:13:02.799 a big thing to put them, have them both agreeth of. 283 00:13:02.759 --> 00:13:05.360 Them had to be on the national right. I mean, 284 00:13:05.799 --> 00:13:07.720 jale Felly was signed to death Jam at one. 285 00:13:07.639 --> 00:13:10.320 Point he had the record with DMX. I could give 286 00:13:10.360 --> 00:13:10.639 it to. 287 00:13:10.639 --> 00:13:14.679 You it bro, remember that Garcie remember that? 288 00:13:14.759 --> 00:13:16.639 Yeah, that's that. You know, he's on deaf Jam and 289 00:13:16.639 --> 00:13:20.080 Lil Rob was was was doing this thing as well. Again, 290 00:13:20.720 --> 00:13:23.759 both records hit the charts. Both records were on MTV 291 00:13:24.159 --> 00:13:26.559 at the time when MTV meant something to videos, right, 292 00:13:26.799 --> 00:13:30.039 videos meant something to the world like that, and when 293 00:13:30.080 --> 00:13:32.200 like you know, there's like video countdowns and all that shit. 294 00:13:32.320 --> 00:13:32.480 Right. 295 00:13:33.279 --> 00:13:37.480 But yeah, both of them, you know, established their mark. 296 00:13:38.399 --> 00:13:40.960 Yeah yeah, and you know I still talk to them 297 00:13:41.000 --> 00:13:43.639 all the time, you know, a little. Bob and Jail 298 00:13:44.080 --> 00:13:46.159 good friends of mine, you know, set aside for the music, 299 00:13:46.639 --> 00:13:51.840 very solid individuals. When I met Jail and when I 300 00:13:51.879 --> 00:13:57.000 met Rob were under different circumstances, but they're like there 301 00:13:57.039 --> 00:13:59.639 are people that that will be there if I hit 302 00:13:59.679 --> 00:14:01.960 them up, you know, so I can really appreciate that 303 00:14:01.960 --> 00:14:04.559 with their busy schedules and the way that I met 304 00:14:04.639 --> 00:14:07.000 Jail was pretty crazy, Like I was on an airplane. 305 00:14:07.159 --> 00:14:09.320 I was catching their plane one time, and I seen 306 00:14:09.360 --> 00:14:11.480 some dude at the airport was like a mask on, 307 00:14:11.559 --> 00:14:13.919 but he had all the same tattoos as Jail, you know. 308 00:14:14.799 --> 00:14:16.200 So finally I went up and I walked up to 309 00:14:16.200 --> 00:14:17.720 the guy and I'm like, yo, what's up man, you know, 310 00:14:17.799 --> 00:14:19.120 and he takes his masks out. I was like, oh, 311 00:14:19.120 --> 00:14:21.399 this is Jail feeling. And I didn't want to, you know, 312 00:14:21.679 --> 00:14:23.159 tell him. I wanted to do a song with him 313 00:14:23.200 --> 00:14:24.919 right then and there, but I just told him who 314 00:14:24.960 --> 00:14:26.799 I was, and then, you know, down the line, we 315 00:14:26.879 --> 00:14:29.480 ended up working together. It was the same with like Corrupt. 316 00:14:30.200 --> 00:14:32.639 When I worked with Corrupt, I had met him backstage 317 00:14:32.639 --> 00:14:35.200 several times. But I don't like to force, you know, 318 00:14:35.279 --> 00:14:38.440 relationships or things like that. You know they'll come to you, 319 00:14:38.919 --> 00:14:44.360 but it's all about like that initial first impression on them. 320 00:14:44.720 --> 00:14:46.960 You know, let them know that you know you're you're 321 00:14:47.759 --> 00:14:50.360 a heartfelt person, that that is really about the craft, 322 00:14:50.919 --> 00:14:54.080 and you know the work will speak for yourself. You know, 323 00:14:55.240 --> 00:14:57.000 a lot of the artists that I've been able to 324 00:14:57.000 --> 00:14:59.159 get on the song on songs, even like dub C, 325 00:14:59.600 --> 00:15:04.320 they've seen in the work before before I even asked 326 00:15:04.360 --> 00:15:06.600 him to be on a record, you know, so the 327 00:15:06.639 --> 00:15:08.799 work really speaks for itself. You know, you can't really 328 00:15:09.120 --> 00:15:10.600 rush relationships, you know. 329 00:15:11.440 --> 00:15:13.240 Yeah, you can't force it. You know, it's got to 330 00:15:13.279 --> 00:15:15.639 be organic, gotta be a vibe, right, but it's got 331 00:15:15.639 --> 00:15:17.600 to be crazy. You gotta be going crazy inside. 332 00:15:17.279 --> 00:15:17.679 When you work. 333 00:15:17.679 --> 00:15:20.919 It's crazy how you you like run into artists or 334 00:15:21.000 --> 00:15:22.919 like you don't know who's seen your music, you know. 335 00:15:23.200 --> 00:15:23.960 I think one of the. 336 00:15:23.919 --> 00:15:28.279 Craziest started, one of the craziest features I had that 337 00:15:28.360 --> 00:15:30.000 came out of the blue was the song that I 338 00:15:30.039 --> 00:15:33.200 did with Pelo. I was shooting I was shooting a 339 00:15:33.240 --> 00:15:35.799 video in Hollywood, and I went to the liquor store 340 00:15:35.879 --> 00:15:38.879 to just grab like some wraps and Pilo. I seen 341 00:15:38.879 --> 00:15:41.279 some dude walk in and it was Pelo, and we 342 00:15:41.320 --> 00:15:44.279 just had a conversation. We exchange change Instagrams, and then 343 00:15:44.440 --> 00:15:46.399 we ended up working on music. You know. I came 344 00:15:46.879 --> 00:15:49.519 to Hollywood to work with him, and it's just crazy 345 00:15:49.559 --> 00:15:52.440 how things work, you know, It's just it's natural. It's 346 00:15:52.519 --> 00:15:53.799 supernatural for sure. 347 00:15:54.000 --> 00:15:54.360 Up Jack. 348 00:15:54.960 --> 00:15:57.600 So you you said, like you know that you put 349 00:15:57.679 --> 00:15:59.600 a lot of your own stuff together because you are 350 00:15:59.639 --> 00:16:01.480 in the and then what's the best thing would you 351 00:16:01.519 --> 00:16:02.759 say about being independent? 352 00:16:03.320 --> 00:16:07.559 The freedom? The freedom and also like you can do 353 00:16:07.639 --> 00:16:11.039 what you want, you know you can. You can more 354 00:16:11.120 --> 00:16:13.879 so do things that is in your best interests interest 355 00:16:15.320 --> 00:16:19.840 because like you could. It's it's a little risky when 356 00:16:19.840 --> 00:16:23.320 you have somebody like talking for you in my opinion, 357 00:16:24.440 --> 00:16:29.080 because I've worked with companies before and sometimes like they 358 00:16:29.279 --> 00:16:32.919 don't see what you see. And right now I'm in 359 00:16:32.919 --> 00:16:37.600 a position where I have like ultimate freedom in everything, 360 00:16:37.840 --> 00:16:40.360 Like everything is like I get to make the decision. 361 00:16:40.440 --> 00:16:42.799 So it feels really good and more so, it feels 362 00:16:42.879 --> 00:16:45.679 very empowering for me to have. 363 00:16:46.000 --> 00:16:48.159 Control, you know, your own music. 364 00:16:48.200 --> 00:16:51.080 It feels good. It right, it feels good, you know. 365 00:16:51.159 --> 00:16:54.240 And right now I'm in a fully independent so like 366 00:16:54.320 --> 00:17:00.240 I don't really have to worry about like, uh, it 367 00:17:00.279 --> 00:17:02.440 is the budget really going to the right thing, because 368 00:17:02.480 --> 00:17:05.400 I'm the one that is bending the budget, so I 369 00:17:05.480 --> 00:17:06.400 know what's going where. 370 00:17:06.640 --> 00:17:06.880 Yeah. 371 00:17:06.920 --> 00:17:08.119 So it's it's a great feeling. 372 00:17:08.240 --> 00:17:10.480 But you know, there's there's a lot of work that 373 00:17:10.519 --> 00:17:12.559 people don't see that you have on your own. 374 00:17:12.640 --> 00:17:15.279 Yeah, you have to play all positions, all positions. 375 00:17:15.319 --> 00:17:18.960 You got to be your own street team, your own company, 376 00:17:19.039 --> 00:17:21.440 your own promoter, your own booker, everything, right, I mean 377 00:17:21.440 --> 00:17:21.920 you are. 378 00:17:21.799 --> 00:17:26.640 Your team, content creator, you know, merchandise sales and and 379 00:17:26.680 --> 00:17:29.839 like you said, the marketing is like you know, it's 380 00:17:29.880 --> 00:17:32.400 it's it's definitely it's a lot. Once you have to 381 00:17:32.559 --> 00:17:35.200 shoot the video and edit the video, put the video out, 382 00:17:35.240 --> 00:17:36.960 and then figure out how you're going to market it. 383 00:17:37.039 --> 00:17:40.240 Break the video down into like small short content, because 384 00:17:40.240 --> 00:17:43.039 that's what it is today. You know, it's all short content. 385 00:17:43.160 --> 00:17:46.880 People just want to see ten seconds of something that 386 00:17:46.920 --> 00:17:50.640 sparks their interest, you know, on on online. So it's 387 00:17:50.640 --> 00:17:54.480 not impossible. With what the Internet has, has the accessibility 388 00:17:54.480 --> 00:17:56.599 of the Internet, you know, anything's possible. So I see 389 00:17:56.599 --> 00:17:58.480 a lot of people going to the independent route now 390 00:17:58.880 --> 00:18:02.160 you know it's possible. You know, you don't really have 391 00:18:02.240 --> 00:18:05.640 to have to say so of like big big labels anymore. 392 00:18:05.720 --> 00:18:07.799 Yeah, that's that. That's a positive. I think with the 393 00:18:07.839 --> 00:18:10.599 Internet right, helped cut off the middle man. 394 00:18:10.920 --> 00:18:12.440 Yeah, for sure, for sure. 395 00:18:12.920 --> 00:18:14.799 Yo, what happened with Quick? With DJ Quick? 396 00:18:15.400 --> 00:18:19.759 You know, Quick is a I'll put it this way, 397 00:18:19.799 --> 00:18:23.640 Quick as a genius genius. D He's a genius and 398 00:18:24.039 --> 00:18:27.519 sometimes when you meet people that are at his caliber, 399 00:18:29.000 --> 00:18:32.640 you don't know what headspace they're in. So like when 400 00:18:32.680 --> 00:18:34.880 I make Quick a big fan of him, you know, 401 00:18:34.960 --> 00:18:38.440