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Speaker 1: Hey y'all, this is Ray Cipriano from Fort Worth, Texas.

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Speaker 2: I play at Hawk's Creek in Westworth Village. This is

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Golf Smarter.

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Speaker 3: Golf Smarter number four hundred and sixty eight, published on

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December twenty three, twenty fourteen.

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Speaker 1: And to finish the swing, rather than lifting with the shoulders,

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elbows and hands lifting the club up, you actually keep

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the right foot the back foot turning after you've launched

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from the end step and knee in hips, and you

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keep the foot turning till you're up on your toe.

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And here's a really, really big tip. I'm not kidding.

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I've had so thanks for this one. Turn your heel,

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turn your right heel. If you turn your right heel,

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it controls your hips, So you turn the right heel

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the hips automatically turn. Now your belly, your belt buckle,

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your center is facing the target, and now your shoulders

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turn automatically. One of my students calls it, they get

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a free ride on your feet and your hips because

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guess what, if you're in good posture, they're right over

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your hips and feet. If you turn to your foot,

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your heel turns your hips, now your shoulders turn your hands,

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and your club come flying through.

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Speaker 3: Lower body Launch Power Hard two with Jamie Zimron.

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Speaker 4: This is Golf Smarter, sharing tips and insights from golfers

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and golf professionals to help lower your score.

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Speaker 2: It's worked for your host, Fred Green.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to the Golf Smarter Podcast, Jamie.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Fred, glad to be back.

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Speaker 3: Happy Honikah, Happy Christmas, Happy Kwansa, Happy Holidays to all

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of us.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely all of the above, right.

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Speaker 3: Yep, everybody, everybody, all inclusive, Happy happy December.

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Speaker 2: What can you do about it?

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Speaker 3: So let's go back now, because last week's conversation was amazing,

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got so much out of it, and it just launched

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so many more questions for me.

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Speaker 2: I want to go back and learn a little.

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Speaker 3: Bit more before we get into the lower the lower

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part of the body and how that really is so

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critical for your balance. But I want to talk about

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your BLISS concept. The BLISS works. What it stands for.

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I know it's an acronym, and how we incorporate that

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into our game.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well, the acronym is be as balance, l lengthen

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I integrate s stretch as strengthen. So BLISS it was.

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Actually it's a fitness system developed by a wonderful woman,

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a teacher of mine in San Diego. Her name is

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Joannie Kettler, and I've adapted it to golf. So we

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have eighteen holes of golf Bliss. Make your golf club

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your health club office Bliss how to take refreshing, refocusing,

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creative activity and productivity, inspiring bliss breaks at work, fitness breaks.

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What's important about BLISS is exactly every one of those letters.

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Let me talk a little bit about the eye part. Integrate.

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Integrate has to do with getting your left and your

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right sides working together, literally your sides of your body,

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your left and right hands, your left and right hemispheres

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of your brain. It also has to do with the

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lower in the upper body, getting them integrated and working together.

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It has to do with the mind and body, the thought,

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the visualization connected to the physical execution of what you're

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wanting to do. And the other part, which is kind

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of interesting. This gets a little deeper, maybe a little

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more here, but it's the integration of the inner body

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and the outer body. What does that mean. There's our

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inner body kind of that inner thought process inside and

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our energy, our breath, this life energy, this key that

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we have that is actually what we're needing to get

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out to our outer physical limbs and then out into

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our golf club and into the golf ball. So this

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inner body outer body thing is really it's a frontier

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for most people. Yogi's martial artists, people in the East

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know a little bit more about the inner body than

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we tend to here in the West. Depak Chopra, who's

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quite famous, doctor d Pak Chopra, talks about becoming astronauts

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of inner space. So part of the training I do

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is to help people to get in touch, focus on

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the inside and to begin to feel that their energy

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inside their mind and their body and learn how to

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get that out to the outer body where we're actually

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performing and interacting with the world with the tools of

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our trade with people, with the project and the golf ball.

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The thing we're trying to accomplish.

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Speaker 2: So now let's thank you for that explanation.

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Speaker 3: And it just makes me think, like, when you bring

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that California thing with you to back to Michigan, are

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there people who are like totally enthusiastic about it?

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Speaker 2: And I'm not talking about your folks.

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Speaker 3: Are they just like rolling their eyes, going, Oh, you've

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been in California way too long.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know what, I just got back from Denver yesterday.

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I was working with some corporate folks and some executives

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in Denver. I have done this stuff literally all over

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the world, all over the Midwest and Florida. It was

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in Ethiopia not so long ago. I've been in the

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Middle East, been all over Canada. They seem to have

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life energy and inner bodies and outer bodies everywhere I've

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ever been. Now I get to joke about it. I'm

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from California, so I can talk about it. But the

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thing is this is it's really not so out there.

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It's not really so esoteric. It's definitely not just wou

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woo and new agey. I do so just some basic

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exercises where everybody begins to realize oh yeah, and within

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a few minutes they're all right there with me, and

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they're going like, boy, why never never tell me this?

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This is makes so much common sense, and nobody talks

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about it this way. I remember I had a guy

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who was probably know, late seventies in Florida, Boca Raton, Florida, right,

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and he said to me, boy, now I really wish

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I was twenty because I'd like to really start my

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life over now knowing this, and start my golf over.

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If someone would have taught me about my energy, that

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would have helped me a long time ago and how

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it works. And it's so obvious now that you pointed out,

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and it really isn't so California, and it's certainly not

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wu wu. It's actually very practical, very common sensical. You know.

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Speaker 2: I just love the Woolu Park.

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Speaker 1: Well, we still make California jokes, and I mean that's

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the great thing. I'm from California, so I get to.

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Speaker 2: Know you're not You're from Michigan.

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Speaker 1: I'm from Wisconsin.

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Speaker 2: Excuse you.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I'm sorry, I'm say my bad, my real bad.

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That is a that's a big mistake, especially when you're

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talking about college sports. You know what, I just want

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to let you know you know years ago and back

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in twenty eleven, Mark twenty eleven, you and I did

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a video together that has been up on golf Smarter

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TV and people should go check this out. It's the

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Golf Smarter TV Jamie Zimmern chipping tip. We've gotten over

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twelve almost thirteen hundred views on that thing, so obviously

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it's working for a lot of people.

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Speaker 2: That's fabulous.

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Speaker 3: I would like to say I had one hundred million views,

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but you know it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 1: Well, after this we probably will. Yeah, I mean, we'll

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tell you what. You know what I did. I did

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a video and you can see it. Everybody can go

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to it. It's on YouTube. It was for this Golf

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channel instructor search context. I had so many people wanted

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me to win that thing. Turned out they were whatever.

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It wasn't exactly a real contest. Doesn't matter. But I

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actually gave about a ten minute teaching segment and a

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lot of some fundamentals of golf and ki golf. It's

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very interesting. And then I did a ninety second little

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tip on the secret of the right knee and the

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lower body launch power. That's what I call it, lower

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body launch power that has over thirty one or two

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thousand views, So I recommend people look at that. And

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the one that you and I did on chipping is

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perfect because that's the core drill to start to understand

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how to use your lower body. And what's nice is

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it'll give you better chipping, better short game, and that,

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it turns out, is the sort of microcosm of your

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full swing. If you can get that down, you have

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not only a better short game, proper use of your

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lower body, and you also have the true core foundation

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of your full swing. So I really recommend that maybe

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we'll get that those twelve hundred views up to twelve

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thousand pretty quick.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, your golf channel instruction video has over thirty

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three thousand views. That's phenomenal. Wow, congratulations, very impressive, very impressive.

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So then let's go Let's go back to and if

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I can use you know again stealing from you lower

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body launch power, love it.

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Speaker 2: That could be the name of this episode.

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Speaker 3: Let's talk about let's talk about the lower body, the balance,

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the knees that you know, all that and stability that

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is so critically important that is just overlooked by so

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many people. People just don't realize the value of how

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important it is to be balanced.

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Speaker 1: Well, let me to overlook as a good word, because

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if you can imagine yourself addressing a golf ball, you're

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standing up tall or maybe bent, you know, to your

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angle to address the ball. But you're up there, you're

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in your head and you're overlooking the golf ball. You're

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overlooking things, and all you can look at and see

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is your arms and your whole body, your trunk, your core,

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your legs, your feet get literally overlooked as you're up

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there from up above holding your club and looking down

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at your golf ball. And this is one part of

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where being disconnected from the lower body begins. So let

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me say this. A lot of people think that there

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is no footwork in golf, or if you begin to

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talk about there, like huh, you're just standing there. I

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mean there's obviously footwork in tennis, or in dancing or

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in football, right, but because we're just standing there, not

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going anywhere, people don't think there's footwork involved in golf.

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But I guarantee that if you talk to any tour

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pro or any teacher of tour pros, they are working

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on their footwork in a big way. So the first

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thing is to actually feel your feet right, and you

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get kind of heavy in your belly, connects you into

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your legs, and that will translate right down to the

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soles of your feet. All of a sudden, you're feeling

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more present, stronger, more grounded as you're addressing the golf ball.

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take an athletic stance, but so many people don't even

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know what that means or what that feel like. So

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that's the first part of it, and footwork you typically

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in general, I would say there's controversies about this in

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the golf swing, but the mounern golf swing, the left

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foot if you're right handed, the left foot stays down

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on your back swing. Now, some weight rolls into the

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arch of your foot, and that allows your right hip

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to turn, and then that lets your spine turn and

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your shoulders turn. But it begins down there and your

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foot and your left foot and your left end step. Obviously,

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if you're a left handed golfer, it would start in

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your right foot, but we try to keep that foot

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down on the ground, and what that enables is this

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sort of dynamic tension, dynamic coil of the body. If

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you lift that foot, lift the heel up too much,

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what can happen is that you sort of sway your body.

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Your energy sort of goes floating up there into right

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up or outer space.

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Speaker 2: Are we're talking about.

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Speaker 3: We're talking about the left foot of the right foot.

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Speaker 1: A right handed golfer, the left foot right.

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Speaker 3: On the back swing the right and so many people

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do that. It's I don't know why. It seems like

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a natural thing when you're not instructed that you on

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your back swing, that right heel comes up and you're

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is now pointing not towards the ball or straight, it's

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it's pointing way behind you.

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Speaker 2: It's pointing right yeap.

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Speaker 1: You lose, yeah, and you lose, you lose that connection

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to the earth. It allows that kind of coiling of

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your energy and your power as you rotate, you know,

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into the back swing when that heel comes up, and

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of proper instruction, you just don't know any better, but

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it also comes up. This is where fitness comes in.

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If your muscles are too tight, if you can't really

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rotate if your hips and your low back and your

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quadratus lumborum these things are too tight, or your hamstrings,

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you can't keep that foot down. So part of fitness

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is too in flexibility as well as strength training in

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the quads and the legs, but particularly flexibility enables that

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left foot to stay down on the backswing, and along

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with the left foot and the left end step. Okay,

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the left heel stays down pressure on the left end step.

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What happens in the right leg we're talking about lower

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body on the back swing. I'm going to tell you

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what happens with the right leg is nothing in a sense.

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I mean when you address the ball. I always tell

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people toes a little out, knee a little in. Okay,

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you've created this kind of knees in toes are out

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a little bit, particularly the four toes, but they're out there,

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flared out just a little bit. The reason for that

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is anatomical. It enables the hip joints to be more

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open so that you have rotational ability. A lot of people,

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the first thing I look at is in a person's

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stance is their feet. And if they're pointing straight ahead

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real square, that locks the the trocanner the hip. It

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locks the rotational ability, and then people have a hard

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time turning. They strain their back and they're all they

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can do is try to lift the club with their

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shoulders in their hands, and all of a sudden they're

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in their upper body a little flare out of the

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toes and pull the knees in a little bit towards

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the golf club. The golf club's kind of right there

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in the center line. If you toes out knees in.

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What happens is Number one, you've got your weight on

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your end steps. That's helpful. That's what Jack Nicholas said.

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Right golf's play between the arches of your feet. Uh.

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In classical golf instruction, it's referred to as pronating. When

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you get your weight on the end steps and the

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toes are flared out a little, the knees are in

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a little Number one, you're locked in around the center line.

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That's a good thing. You're not going to sway so much.

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Number two, you can actually push a little bit on

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that left end step and you're able your hips are

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open enough that you can make the rotational turn.

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Speaker 3: I just realized something that months ago, maybe this year,

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early this year or last year. But I realized that

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on my follow through of my swing, I was rolling

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over my left foot, so my like so on the

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outer part, so that when I was my swing was complete,

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that the sole of my foot was up right and

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pa and facing back towards my other foot. And it

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was suggested to me that a simple fix on that

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would be just open my toes, you know, open my

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stance right, point my toes out a little bit. And

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I just realize that since I've been doing that, my

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back pain is a lot less. Is that coincidental or

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is that something that's help?

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Speaker 1: It's Anna chocolate.

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Speaker 2: Flown away right now, And I thought of me, so

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I don't have to go swimming every week.

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Speaker 1: Well, no, here's the thing. I mean, you know you

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will end up a little bit on the outer part

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of your left foot and the follow through, but you know,

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it sounds like that was really exaggerated in your case.

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And when you have toes out, knees in and address

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actually the forward foot, left foot if you're alrighty, right

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foot if you're lefty, So we'll be flared out a

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little bit more than the back foot. That's because as

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you keep your you know, your forward foot down on

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the back swing, and you keep that back knee flexed,

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but without straightening, without swaying over to the side, it

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just stays put where it is. Then you're able to

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kind of turn into that back leg load and coil

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up your power, and you actually want some kind of

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a stop on that rotation. You don't want to just rotate, rotate, rotate.

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That's why you turn the backfoot out a little bit,

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but not a lot. Now when you're coming through, and

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we'll we'll talk about that part in a minute, but

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when you're coming through, you're coming through it. You know,

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seventy eighty nine dred miles an hour with a lot

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of power and speed and energy. That's a lot for

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a skeleton, muscles, for a body to handle. And so

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if that forward foot is flared out even a little more,

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it allows us to go shoom and really release and

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still have some some hold, some stop there so that

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we can have a balance finish. But that's what takes

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the pressure off your back and even your knees.

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Speaker 3: Give me a drill, give me some help to not

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for me, of course, for a friend of mine.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, it's definitely not.

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Speaker 2: A friend, he is you with thirty three thousand views.

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Speaker 3: But on the how to remind myself how to create

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a drill for myself to make sure that I keep

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my left heel down on the backswing, How do you

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keep the lower body quiet?

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Speaker 1: Well, that's a that's an interesting question. And you know

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some people will you know, maybe put a tiny piece

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of board. You can just get a little sort of

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board and put it on the inside of the foot,

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you know, inside of the shoe, and they don't want

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to move that board, you know what I'm saying. So

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that's just a.

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Speaker 2: Little vision, not in the shoe, literally in the shop.

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Speaker 1: Sure, no, no, next to it, next to it. You

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could put a golf club down right next to that foot. Yeah,

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and you don't want to be moving the golf club,

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you know what I'm saying. Or you could have a

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golf club that is on the other outside of the

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foot and you don't want to you know, you could

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put your foot in a little track, you see what

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I'm saying, and so you want to keep it there.

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You don't want to be lifting it or rolling over

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it or stepping on it. You know. That's a basic one.

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But let me say something else. So the forward foot

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stays down. Right. Most people, not most, but a lot

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of people tend to lift the heel on the forward foot. Now,

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then they do something really interesting, which is they come

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down in the down swing impact phase of the swing,

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leading with their shoulders and their hands, and they try

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to hit the ball hard, kill it with their upper

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body right, not knowing how to engage and properly use

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the lower body. And then what happens is they try

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to hit it with their arms and that back. For

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a righty, that'll be the right foot, a left would

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be the left foot, but the backfoot they tend to

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keep on the ground or to only rotate through a

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little bit, and it's actually sort of you know, bass ackwards.

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So they keep but they lift the forward foot and

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they keep the back foot down when they're supposed to

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keep the forward foot down, and as they come through.

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It's just like throwing a ball. You could be throwing

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a baseball, you could be hitting a baseball, you could

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be throwing a football, you could be hitting a tennis ball.

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All of those throw the ball sports, which is what

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golf is a throw the ball sport. They all the

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body mechanics of throwing a ball before the arms, the shoulders,

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anything gets engaged. The back foot, the instep of the

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back foot rolls a little bit, that sort of slight

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pronation the d step of the foot, and then that

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kicks in the back knee. Gary Player was huge on this,

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by the way, best example. And so right foot, right

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knee for a right e and then that starts to

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turn the hips, and then that allows the shoulders elbows

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to just relax and drop into place. Then the hands

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come through, they release through the golf ball, okay, And

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so at that point you're kind of on your right

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end step and to finish the swing, rather than lifting

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with the shoulders, the elbows and hands lifting the club up,

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you actually keep the right foot, the back foot turning

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after you've launched from the end step and knee and hips,

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and you keep the foot turning until you're up on

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your toe. And here's a really really big tip. I'm

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not kidding. I've had so many thanks for this one.

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Turn your heel, turn your right heel. If you turn

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your right heel, it controls your hips, So you turn

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the right heel, the hips automatically turn. Now your belly,

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your belt buckle, your center is facing the target and

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now your shoulders turn automatically. One of my students calls it,

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they get a free ride on your feet and your

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hips because guess what there, that's what's if you're in

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good posture, they're right over your hips and feet. If

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you turn your foot, your heel turns your hips. Now

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your shoulders turn, your hands and your club come flying through.

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This is right there visualized on video in lower body

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launch power on that Golf Channel video that I did

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so people can see what I'm talking about. But it

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is amazing. So a lot of times people are told

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to stand on their right toe at the in their

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finished position right if you're righty, But more than just

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being on your toe, turn your heel, because it's your

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heel that is like this lever that turns your hips.

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And when your hips turn, that's when your center, your

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belly button, your belt buckle is facing down the fairway

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face and your target and your hips and your hands

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and your club have automatically just flown through with their

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full full speed, full club head speed, and you are

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facing your target after you've launched the ball down the line,

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and you've been able to launch the ball down the line,

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which is what you've done with your you know, on

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the downswing impact face with the back end step and

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knee and hips. So you've launched the ball down the

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line and now you finish up completely.

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Speaker 3: So when you're saying rotate the heel, you are lift

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the heel, turn the heel. You mean rotate on the

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ball of your foot, correct.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you're sort of in a natural turning

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motion and from your foot, and so yeah, you're turning

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on your big toe shall we say, ball in big

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toe until you're standing tall on that on your toes.

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But you've actually turned your heel as well many times,

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and you can just go up and down the driving jill.

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If you watch people's finished position and you look at

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their back foot, look at where it is, not a

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lot of people have fully turned their foot all the

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way to turning the heel, and so then they haven't

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had a complete follow through.

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Speaker 3: What it sounds like to me is that, and I

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think this is a problem with so many golfers is

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to them, the contact with the golf ball is like

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the end of the swing. There's not a lot of

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thought or energy put into the follow through.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's true. To use a martial arts

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metaphor if anybody's ever tried to break a board, if

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you try to just hit the board to break it,

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you will hurt your hand, right. That's like if you're

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just hitting the ball, but you're not thinking about getting

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through it. To break a board, you don't think about

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the board. You are focusing a foot or two ask

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the board you're trying to like touch all the way

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down to the floor with your hand. The boards just

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in the way, shall we say, and then it like

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sort of magically splits in two because the energy's gone

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all the way through. Same with the golf ball. When

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we say the golf ball gets in the way of

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the swing, you're not trying to hit the ball, you're

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moving all the way through it and extending through it

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an ike do or when we try to teach people,

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we have these rolls forward roles, so you have to

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roll on your arm and body and end up standing.

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A lot of people try to just like kind of

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get their arm down and do this role, but a

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lot of times and they have trouble with it. So

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if I tell them, you know what, here's how you

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should be at the end. You should be standing up

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all the way at the end. Just focus on being

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standing at the end, and when they do that, all

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of a sudden, they roll. The role happens because they're

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standing up the momentum the energy carries all the way through.

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So the follow through is important partially because it means

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that we're just sort of swept right through the ball.

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But the balance and position at the end is absolutely crucial,

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and it's both a cause and an effect of a

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good golf shot. It means that the energy was contained

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throughout the swing, it delivered into the ball and now

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here you are standing in good balance. For people who

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try to hit the ball, you'll see it all the time,

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especially these guys. Women aren't as guilty of it because

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they don't just use so much brute force. But these

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guys who are going to hit a ton or a mile,

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they try to hit the ball and then they do

477
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that and they get this rebound kickback effect, and so

478
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they kick back and they're standing there like I mean,

479
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and nothing that begins to resemble their initial address position

480
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or proper follow through position, you know what I'm saying.

481
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And then they're standing there going, oh my god, they're

482
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watching this like huge slice off into somebody's roof or whatever.

483
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They're going, Gosh, I wonder what happened, how did that

484
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get offline? Or how come that didn't go anywhere?

485
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Speaker 2: No, my favorite is I lifted my head.

486
00:27:02,319 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's all It's the go to response whenever a

487
00:27:06,519 --> 00:27:09,640
bad shot happens. Oh, I lifted my Head's like, no,

488
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you didn't, that's.

489
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Speaker 2: Not your problem. Actually, go ahead.

490
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Speaker 1: You don't know. That was a good entre. You teed

491
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it up for me to talk about lifting your head.

492
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Speaker 2: Okay, and that's not where I was going to go,

493
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But I'm glad I did.

494
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Speaker 1: Go ahead. What's that really all about? When we say

495
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keep your head down or keep your eye on the ball,

496
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I'm going to tell you from a key I golf

497
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,440
point of view, what that's really all about. That means

498
00:27:36,519 --> 00:27:40,240
that you have stayed for the most part, centered and

499
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then balanced during your golf swing. What does that mean?

500
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For example, an analogy I like to use is the

501
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Solar system, where we have planets circling around because the

502
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:56,160
golf swing is basically this orbit around our body, our

503
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rotational body. So in the Solar system we have to

504
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have the Sun, and the Sun is strong and steady

505
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in the middle and then all the planets go around

506
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their orbit. If you could imagine the sun looking up right,

507
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,480
the sun starts dancing around, we wouldn't be having this conversation.

508
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We'd be flying all over the place. And same like

509
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:21,680
those revolving doors and buildings, it has a really strong

510
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center column, and then the door goes around nicely. But

511
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if that thing it wasn't bolted down and strong and

512
00:28:28,079 --> 00:28:30,599
in place and was moving around, we wouldn't be able

513
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to make a smooth circle through the door. Same thing

514
00:28:34,599 --> 00:28:38,079
in our golf swing. We are that center column. Our

515
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,000
trunk of our body and our legs and our feet

516
00:28:41,119 --> 00:28:44,799
create that strong center column that we rotate around so

517
00:28:44,839 --> 00:28:48,119
that we can have a good consistent circular arc of

518
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,680
the swing that the ball then gets in the way

519
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,559
of when we lift our head or move our eyes

520
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or sway or don't have stability and strength in our

521
00:28:58,039 --> 00:29:01,079
lower body. What we've done is to destroy the orbit

522
00:29:01,119 --> 00:29:03,680
of the golf swing, and that means that the club

523
00:29:03,759 --> 00:29:06,599
is not going to come down properly or in any

524
00:29:06,599 --> 00:29:10,160
consistent way, or hit the sweet spot from the club

525
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,119
to the golf ball, you know, once in a while,

526
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but not so much. That's why when we have stability,

527
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and we keep our on the ball, we keep our

528
00:29:19,079 --> 00:29:22,200
head down, we're able to keep the orbit of the

529
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,799
swing intact, and therefore we can then make centered contact

530
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,720
on the golf ball. How's that?

531
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Speaker 3: How was a woo woo moment? I think we definitely

532
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:38,559
just had a woo woo moment, a wooh.

533
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Speaker 1: True moment, That's what I mean. It actually makes a

534
00:29:41,599 --> 00:29:45,400
ton of sense. And when you lift your head or

535
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:49,000
you look up and you peak, even putting a tiny

536
00:29:49,039 --> 00:29:51,680
little stroke, right the minute you peak and you move

537
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,960
your eyes or you move your head or you wobble

538
00:29:54,039 --> 00:29:57,480
your body, you've just destroyed the path of the club

539
00:29:58,319 --> 00:30:00,920
of the putting stroke. And and then you don't hit

540
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:04,000
the ball. The putter doesn't make very good contact with

541
00:30:04,039 --> 00:30:07,039
the ball, and it goes offline, it doesn't go the

542
00:30:07,079 --> 00:30:11,680
proper distance. It's not a nice, smooth rolling putt. So

543
00:30:13,319 --> 00:30:17,000
stability and putting is huge, and keeping your head down

544
00:30:17,119 --> 00:30:19,319
and your knees steady, and you know, having a solid

545
00:30:19,359 --> 00:30:23,160
foundation so that then you can just make the stroke

546
00:30:23,759 --> 00:30:27,559
and deliver that energy just a sweet spot just the

547
00:30:27,559 --> 00:30:29,640
way you want and roll the ball right up the line.

548
00:30:30,519 --> 00:30:34,279
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, but wait, we're getting into putting now too.

549
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,519
We don't have this, that's a whole other episode.

550
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Speaker 2: We only have seconds left, ye putting, Yeah, pudding here

551
00:30:41,759 --> 00:30:42,079
we go.

552
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:42,519
Speaker 1: All right?

553
00:30:42,559 --> 00:30:45,319
Speaker 3: Well, then that definitely means that you can't wait or

554
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,960
I can't wait another couple of years to invite you

555
00:30:48,039 --> 00:30:48,319
back on.

556
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 2: We've got to have you back.

557
00:30:50,599 --> 00:30:52,559
Speaker 1: I mean, really we could keep going wait.

558
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:53,039
Speaker 2: Way too long?

559
00:30:53,359 --> 00:30:56,319
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yeah, I mean that last episode back in

560
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twenty eleven, that was just after we played golf together.

561
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Speaker 2: And that's been too long.

562
00:31:02,079 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 3: Now that we're both here in northern California, but you're

563
00:31:05,039 --> 00:31:07,519
moving around so much, you're traveling like crazy.

564
00:31:08,079 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 1: Well, I have to tell you very briefly. The origin

565
00:31:11,039 --> 00:31:13,079
is a KEII golf. How did I get back to golf?

566
00:31:13,079 --> 00:31:16,440
How did this happen? A great little story actually written

567
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,160
up in a new ike do in Daily Life book.

568
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:23,279
But here's the story. My best friend since kindergarten from Milwaukee.

569
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I went to the same grade school in high school,

570
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,039
one of those types. I was not an army brat.

571
00:31:28,079 --> 00:31:30,000
It was just, you know, the same place the whole

572
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,599
way through. So my best friend since four years old

573
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,359
was visiting me in San Diego and she said, hey,

574
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I'm golfing. Would you give me a golf lesson now,

575
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,920
mind you, I was being an ike Do instructor and

576
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,079
not a golf pro at that time, and I said, yeah, sure.

577
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,279
I took my seven iron and my iike Do sword,

578
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:49,440
and she took her golf clubs and we went to

579
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Tory Pines to the driving range, and I started showing

580
00:31:52,519 --> 00:31:55,119
her a few things about being just these basics that

581
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:58,319
we're talking about in her stance and grounded and centered

582
00:31:58,359 --> 00:32:02,160
and extension and relaxed release into the golf ball. Well,

583
00:32:03,359 --> 00:32:07,279
she started hitting the ball within one hour, like unbelievably.

584
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She could not believe it. I was kind of surprised

585
00:32:09,799 --> 00:32:13,200
to it was so well tould be told. But she

586
00:32:13,759 --> 00:32:16,839
literally fell on the ground. She threw her clubs at

587
00:32:16,839 --> 00:32:19,480
her feet up in the air. I remember she yelped

588
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,440
and she went, oh, wow, you've got to teach us

589
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,920
to the world. This is amazing. This she goes, this

590
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:29,440
is like enlightenment. And I remember going that that was

591
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,759
pretty cool. That really worked. It was like the golf

592
00:32:32,799 --> 00:32:35,839
sense sort of appeared full blown. This is like fifteen

593
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,960
years ago. And so I started going to the driving

594
00:32:39,039 --> 00:32:41,960
range quietly by myself for about a year and putting

595
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:46,200
all these principles back into practice and consciously developing my

596
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,720
golf game. And that's when I rejoined the LPGA and

597
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,680
developed PI Golf, et cetera, et cetera. But it started

598
00:32:51,759 --> 00:32:56,359
from that one one hour that was just you know,

599
00:32:56,519 --> 00:32:59,319
just so happened to be uh and for her to

600
00:32:59,359 --> 00:33:01,640
go this is like enlightenment. You got to teach us

601
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,839
to the world. So I've been trying to do that,

602
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:05,920
and I do see that it's making a difference, and

603
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:10,839
that it's certainly putting some new thoughts, new practices, new

604
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:16,000
perspectives into the whole approach to teaching the game better,

605
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:20,440
playing the game better, and actually having people improve, because

606
00:33:20,559 --> 00:33:24,559
golfers don't really improve that much. You know, we pour

607
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:26,759
a lot of money and ego and energy. You go

608
00:33:26,799 --> 00:33:28,680
to the Golf show, a couple of million square free

609
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,079
to golf stuff. You watch Golf Channel twenty four to seven,

610
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:35,000
and the statistics on handicaps going down is one indicator

611
00:33:35,079 --> 00:33:38,559
of real golf improvement are really dismal. I mean, they're like,

612
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,839
you know, they're almost down at zero percent. So most

613
00:33:42,839 --> 00:33:46,519
of us don't take that kind of ROI right, return

614
00:33:46,559 --> 00:33:49,680
on investment in anything, but we keep plodding along in golf,

615
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,000
and I think that there's ways to make a real difference.

616
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,799
And I've seen that bringing these kinds of principles and

617
00:33:54,839 --> 00:33:58,240
practices that are actually quite accessible make a big difference

618
00:33:58,279 --> 00:34:02,680
for golfers at every level, begin intermediate players, advanced players,

619
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,759
even pros really makes a difference absolutely.

620
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 3: And I know for instructors it's like beating their head

621
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,039
against the wall that these numbers don't go down. But

622
00:34:11,199 --> 00:34:17,519
for someone like me who likes to talk to golf instructors.

623
00:34:18,639 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll just say one more thing. I mean, everybody

624
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:25,000
has their system and whatever, and the thing about KI Golf,

625
00:34:25,039 --> 00:34:27,239
I mean, you could say it's a system of methodology,

626
00:34:27,559 --> 00:34:32,199
but it's universally applicable, so you know, you can still

627
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,639
do what you're doing and incorporate this stuff in. I'm

628
00:34:34,639 --> 00:34:36,280
not saying you got to like quit doing what you're

629
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:39,000
doing and do this. The one and only real bias

630
00:34:39,079 --> 00:34:43,480
that KI golf has is that it does start with

631
00:34:43,559 --> 00:34:47,920
the lower body. I believes that that's where it's not

632
00:34:48,039 --> 00:34:52,440
about your shoulder turn. It's much more about this holistic

633
00:34:52,519 --> 00:34:55,119
and starting from the lower body and the core. Outside

634
00:34:55,119 --> 00:34:59,639
of that, it's universal principles and can be woven into

635
00:35:00,039 --> 00:35:00,920
other approaches.

636
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:06,360
Speaker 3: I would say, awesome, perfect, All right, well listen, I

637
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,440
want to wish you a very happy and healthy new year,

638
00:35:10,119 --> 00:35:15,679
and before twenty sixteen rolls around, you'll you will be back.

639
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 1: Well, thank you very much. I appreciate that, and happy

640
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,599
holidays to you to everybody listening, and we do have

641
00:35:22,599 --> 00:35:24,639
some holidays specials, so they can go to my website

642
00:35:24,679 --> 00:35:28,039
and check them out. DVD's instruction, you know that sort of.

643
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 3: Stuff, and all the details are at the end of

644
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:34,159
last episode. But again it's keigolf dot com, ki ai

645
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:38,039
golf dot com or the kiway dot com.

646
00:35:38,639 --> 00:35:42,840
Speaker 1: Right, Thanks Jamie, thank you, Happy holidays, Thanks so much.

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