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Speaker 2: Dot e Carl? We're back. How are you doing? Man?
Speaker 7: Doing well?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm glad to have you back on our streams.
Have been doing quite well and unfortunately we did have
to take some time out to you know, go to
Thanksgiving or you.
Speaker 7: Know whatever and time with family.
Speaker 2: Yeah, something unimportant right as such. But how have you
been doing? Man?
Speaker 7: Doing great? No, it's been it's actually been really nice.
I love this time of year. The mood is awesome.
I have a bunch of like kid family birthdays like
all in quick succession, and so this is just a
very nostalgically wonderful time of year for me. So I'm
in I'm in very good spirits but also outraged at
the same time.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean, look, that's why I bring you on.
It's just for outrage. Uh So, I'm sort of two
seemingly disparate topics I want to talk about. And as
you can see, and for those wondering how this works,
quite literally, I say, hey, Carl, do you want to
do a live stream? He's like yes, And then sometimes
you ask me like what do you want to talk about?
And I very honestly will say I'll let you know
three minutes before we go, because you know, that's that's
how professional podcasters work, right.
Speaker 7: I think you texted me like, look at this, I
won't tell you what my angle is until we're live,
and I was like, okay.
Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty much. So, as you can see the title,
we're talking about high trust societies a couple of things,
right You and I have you know, spent plenty of time,
you know, boomer bashing as regards the economy. Lent me
give me a second. We're having audio issues on the
just I call you, uh, all right, this let me
all right, that should be a little better.
Speaker 7: You sound melodious and perfect to me, so.
Speaker 2: All right, well guess never mind. So talking about high
trust societies. So I was talking to a mutual friend
of ours, Carl, and uh he floated the uh, the
factoid that if you look at countries like Italy in particular,
Spain a couple others that have record high youth unemployment,
creates this problem where effectively everyone's working under the table.
Everyone is avoiding taxes because one, the taxes are so
punishing that you can't really it's not worth it until
you hit a certain point. But also, there's really no
incentive anymore to play by the rules of the system, right.
Everyone knows it's a rigged game, and so only stupid
people play by the rules. And this is something that
I think we are likely to encounter here. Some economic
data has come out that the unemployment rate for new
college graduates basically people two years out of school, is
apocalyptically bad. We're sitting well north of ten percent. The
number of college graduates who have secured employment by the
time they leave has cretered to twenty two don't quote
me on that percent somewhere in the twenties. Not very
good and so effectively what we're doing. And the problem
with this is we're disincentivizing playing by the rules, disincentivizing
doing what you're supposed to do. I read an article,
let me see if I can pull up who wrote
it in the American Conservative talking about why young men
are radicalized rad Radicalization of gen Z by Eddie Laurel.
The American Mind is where they wrote. And to me,
he repeats the kind of things you often have heard,
you know, Oh, you know, these people grew up sort
of haranged by you know, social justice activists, you know,
constantly told that they are the problem, that they they
are what's wrong with society, and that's produced a reaction.
And look, man, that's very true. But I think another
part of it, and this is something that's come up
in recent conversations about gen Zu. Nikki Haley's son appeared
on Tucker and did Yeoman's work. There is this feeling
that when you've done everything right by the book, done
everything that you were supposed to do, when older people,
conservative people tell you this is how you establish yourself
in society, and it doesn't work. You were effectively punished
for doing that. You're going to create a large jumpmber
of people who basically just say, screw it. Why would
I play by the rules of the game. It's individually rational, right, Okay, well,
why does this matter? Surely if everyone is just acting
in their own self interest, that will produce the best
system one. Not entirely true, but let's remember the fact
that there are a great number of things in society
that depend on a gentleman's agreement, that depend on everyone
sort of doing what they're supposed to by anyone actually checking. Right,
A high trust system one where you assume everyone is
acting as they should. And really, when we talk about,
you know, the nineteen fifties, when older people talk about
their idealized youth, what they're really idealizing is a high
trust system exactly. Laphorisms about people saying, oh, you could
hitchhike anywhere you know any random adult, would you know,
bring your runaway son home? Was that true? Largely speaking? Yes,
the kind of like horrible bend Tomite liberals will say
things like, well, actually crime is down, it was much
more dangerous in the fifties. One, I'd be curious to
see how you got that data.
Speaker 7: Two.
Speaker 2: Even if that is true, the perception almost matters more
than reality, right, the fact that people feel as if
the average person that they interact with is on the
same page, maybe not specifically, but close enough to work.
And so all of these normal, nice things about living
in a high trust society depend on that. And once
that's gone, once the penalty for effectively doing what you're
supposed to becomes higher than you're striking out on your own,
you're going to lose access to any number of nice,
pleasant things about living in a normal society. I noticed
this particularly when talking to boomers and silent generation types,
you know, many of whom grew up in what do
you consider now idyllic, monocultural, conservative, quote unquote societies, and
they don't understand why young people are so discontented. They
don't understand why young people simply can't fall back on
the same kind of like social network that they did.
And a large part of that is because people are
not on the same page. People do not trust the
first person they encounter, because, let's be honest, even on
a political level, let alone you know, a cultural one,
that social cohesion is gone, that social trust is gone.
This is something you see particularly poignant in the UK,
extremely high trust society, extremely say monocultural but homogenized society.
So every time you see these kind of outrage stories
about new arrivals going into a park and clubbing ornamental
geese to death and eating them, that's that's kind of
an example of what we're talking about, right, Something that
was public common good soon to be everyone's sort of
but there were no guards around it, there were no
fence around it. It was just there and everyone was
sort of on the same page. But when someone who
comes out and said it doesn't share that common assumption,
that is a resource to be exploited, that is something
to be taken. And look, that's a silly example. I
think the world is poorer for you know, fewer ornamental
swans and geese in public park. But you know, there's
no direct correlation between having nice water fowl and having
a good society. But I don't know if you followed this,
Carl the the sort of ongoing welfare scandal out of Minnesota.
Have you have you caught this?
Speaker 7: I am not only aware of it, I've seen it
play out locally and it's appalling an equivalent, an equivalent
same basically same population plus others grafted on. It's that
the state of it is staggering, like our economy is
a giant scam at this point.
Speaker 2: But proceed one hundred percent. And even if you look
at something like welfare, right, and look, welfare has always
been corrupt in the US for pretty much as long
as the welfare state has exist. We understand that. But
there's a certain amount of drag, there's a certain amount
of corruption. The system can bear a lot of. It's
just human, right, look at Tamney Hall, Corruption, patronage, whatever
you want to call it, is sort of endemic to
human politics. It's what we do. Obviously, you would like
to minimize it or at least channel in a productive direction.
Speaker 7: That sounds wild. You're supposed to get nothing and like it.
Speaker 2: Well, so look at this scandal. So this has been
brewing for a while. You have Donald Trump, who you know,
I think many of us have been cooling on. But
I'll be honest, when he called Tim Walls retarded, I
thought that was pretty funny. And that's really what kind
of made the headlines. You know, President Trump called Tim
Walls retarded, which is, let's be honest, I, from my
perspective a generous description of the man. But regardless, the
context of that is this massive welfare scandal in Minnesota,
particularly surrounding the Somali community. Effectively, it seems as if,
according to best estimates, every one of the eighty thousand
Somalis has basically defrauded the state government out of roughly
twenty thousand dollars. Not to say that literary minimum, but
if you take the average of how much was defrauded
by the number of people, it comes out to around
twenty thousand ahead. So look at that, right, That is,
relatively speaking, a high trust system. Many of these had
to do with, you know, grants for children with autism,
for early disability, early learning stuff, and completely setting aside
if government programs are a good thing, talk about that late. Nonetheless,
this is a high trust system where we didn't really
expect anyone to protect and that every single kid they
had was autistic so they could get gifts. Like sure,
someone might do that, but the system was not designed
with that low level of social trust, that understanding that yeah,
sure maybe you need welfare, but you shouldn't use it
too much. It's shameful it's not a desirable thing to do. Now, Look,
was this system set up in such a way to
allow that one hundred percent? Was at least according to
whistleblowers from the Minnesota DHS Twitter account, was this deliberately
done by that administration as a form of patriots one
hundred percent? But that is another one of these systems
we see breaking down under different sort of cultural conceptions
of what is appropriate at what you can do. And
I think a large part of this comes down to ownership. Right,
do you feel that you are a partial owner of
your town, your city, where you live. Do you feel like, well,
if someone else is taking advantage of that, it's taking
away from my thing, something I care about. And one
of the big problems both obviously with immigration, but also
in this kind of rootlessness we see promoted by Ben Shapiro,
for example, who said you don't have the right to
grow up or to live where you grow up, move
to where you can find a better job. You're responding
to discontented youth.
Speaker 7: I'm going to move to Israel.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well he has another place to go. Unfortunately, Carl,
you and I do not. But in all seriousness, right,
the problem with that rootlessness the problem with.
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Speaker 2: The inability of young people to join the property ladder
is that they have nothing at stake. It's not years anything,
and in fact they are punished for a desire to
make it there to take on ownership. What they're basically
being offered is when you listen to you conservatives talk,
is the argument is basically, your job is to be
the bad end of the trade forever, to fund the
retirement of other people. To if you can scrounge together
enough money to for purchase house to fund the retirement
of someone else, that's the best we can get. Basically,
let yourself get screwed. And so it's completely rational on
an individual level to say, well, fair enough, I am
not going to engage. I do not care about this system.
I'm acting in my own self interest. You see a
lot of you know, effective people who in another era
would be doing something productive moving into other less productive industries.
For instance, like if you can't make money anywhere else,
move to social media. We've seen a huge explosion of
that because that's a place where you can make money
let alone, right like the crypto space or anywhere else
where these kind of like scammy, unproductive quote unquote you
know ways to accrue wealth are but also right, I
think we were going to see the rise of the
same sort of culture we see in places like Italy,
where you see a desire to cheat cheat on taxes,
cheat on recording your income, because again it is rational
to do so you're being punished for doing the right thing.
And it doesn't just apply to economics, right, that same
instinct that says, well, even if no one is going
to catch me, I should do the right thing. That is,
I owe society that once you lose that, it's well
and truly gone. And I think that when we look
at the rising radicalism on the left and the right,
it's effectively that people do not have a stake in
society anymore. It has been given to other people. It
has been taken away that birthright. And when I say
birth right, I don't mean some lavish inheritance. I mean
simply having a country. Being able to sort of have
a stake in society is effectively a luxury. It's for
rich people. And well, look, most people aren't rich. And
so when most people do not feel an attachment to
where they live, when most people do not feel an
attachment to the system as it, it's no shock. And
it's particularly you do troubling when you see conservatives you
kind of mouthing bromides about you know, patriotism and the
free market, because all of those depended on people caring
about the system. You are patriotic because it is yours, Yeah,
exactly not yours. If anyone is an American, well why
would I sign up? Why would I do anything more
than the bare minimum to get ahead? You saw this
in education as well. You know I've mentioned it multiple times.
I was in college during COVID, and that exact attitude
of well, I'll just cheat to get ahead because there's
no real reason. They're not teaching me anything anyway, and
all I need is a number, All I need is
a degree, and then I'll be done. That attitude was
rampant because it was it was completely rational. Now, when
I say rational, I don't mean good. I don't mean
everyone should think like that or act like that. But
it's entirely reasonable, right, people acting in their own self interest.
And another thing to mention is when we talk about
a high trust, it is like many things dependent on
a long chain of sort of lifetime additions to a society, right,
a long chain of people who left things better than
they found them. You see this in Chesterton, Right, Rome
was not men. Men did not love Rome because she
was beautiful. She was beautiful because men loved her right.
Over the course of hundreds of years, you know, dozens
of generations, people sacrificed their immediate kind of short term
gain for the sake of a society, for the sake
of a culture, for the sake of a town, even
their own family. But once that's broken, once you have
broken that chain, it is very, very difficult to get back.
And to me, that's what I find so frustrating about this.
You know, focus on your kind of short term economic
gain idea that the GDP, the stock market, as we've
heard from Trump, is the most relevant or most relevant metric,
rather when we're talking about a society, because now it's not.
And what we're seeing now is a sacrifice of a
high trust society for a momentarily rich society. And look,
man like, I understand it. You know, you can't crash
the economy overnight and produce a number of bad results.
But at the same time, it is no wonder that
the Conservatives are floundering right now. It seems very likely
that the Republicans will get shellacked in the midterms, shell
Act in twenty twenty eight because they have offered rising
generation almost nothing, nothing at all. And look, this matters
more than just the kind of you know, soft and
squishy things I've talked about, Right, this matters more than
just the sort of tragedy of the common stuff, because again,
when we look at the polling, this is kind of interesting. Right,
Liberals are very, very worried about right wing violence. See
the same thing among conservatives, And we could say the
Conservatives have a pretty good point, right. You know, their
guy got shot in the ear, their number one sort
of public promoter got brutally assassinated. Then a number of
these kind of like low level terror attacks fomenting, and
again that is the consequences for losing. It made that
very clear. Paul Godfrey, in a very good essay for
The Blaze came out on the twentieth I don't remember
the exact name, makes exactly this point. The narrative coming
out is that the reason why Democrats are winning is
because they're focused on affordability. I don't think Paul Gottfreech
says that's not true. What is true is that Republicans
are losing because of affordability. Yes, because Trump has basically
made himself synonymous with the system, synonymous with the government,
synonymous with big business. That so many people were unsatisfied
with during the Biden years, So that is why the
Republicans are losing so well. How are the Democrats gaining
support among their own audience? Effectively murderous rage basically saying
we are going to persecute these people to the end
of the year. And look, when your liberal aunt says that,
does she literally mean she is going to kill Elon Musk? No,
she doesn't. But the unhinged is kind of farther out
in the sort of people we've seen involved in these
terror attacks, the kind of furries and bizarre sex pests.
They're acting on it, right, They genuinely believe that, you know,
this is a fascist coup and to save democracy, to
avert transgenocide, we need to gun these people down. And again,
a large part of that is you've created this this
den of disaffected people who have nothing at stake, have
no way to index with the system at all, and have,
to be honest, nothing to lose. And so when we
look at this kind of rapid flip flop between one
party and the other, it's easy to say, you know,
to kind of get deep into the details about you know,
XYZ demographic, But I think for a large portion of
large number of people. It really comes down to that
feeling of having no way to index, having no way
to sort of involve themselves in the process as it exists,
and so this sort of radicalism is an entirely predictable result.
I'll throw it back to you, Carl, and then we
can dig into this article that I want to read
a little bit. But yeah, so that's sort of my
thoughts there. And what's especially frustrating is that I think
for many of us, we saw Trump two as an opportunity, right,
as an opportunity to actually avert something very nasty, because
it seems, as it look the the problem with Trump
one was simply a lack of organization, a lack of desire,
and we solved that. We seemingly, you got the plant,
and what happened. Nothing happened. Literally, nothing happened. Okay, sure,
we got some wins on immigration, which is fine, but
the immediate pitvot to well, we got rid of you know,
illegal immigrants, so now we can let in you know,
six hundred thousand Chinese students, you know, seven hundred thousand,
h one b's, you know, hundreds and hundreds of thousands
of people, all while offering, you know, young people, the
fig leaf of we'll take a fifty year mortgage that
is going to one sort of accelerate this process of
becoming a low trust society, becoming a society like Brazil,
like South Africa, you know, a society where people do
not play by the rules, where they see playing by
the rule as a sucker's choice, and also increased radicalization.
You're going to push people to the fringes. And so
to me, this is entirely predictable, and it's especially galling
because the consequences of losing here are dire. Incredibly so
if we have seen this sort of murderous rage, the
desire to take even someone like Hegseth, who I'm no
fan of, but try him for war crimes, you're to
throw these people in jail. And so, I don't know.
To me, it's proven what we've known for a long time,
which is that conservatives in America are not serious. They're
not a real political party. They are simply a grifting operation.
And again I'm going to reference this article because it's very,
very good, but Godfried made the point that they do
not care about the stated goals of being a political party.
What they care about is Gibbs, either personally or to
their special interests, and that's all that matters. And look,
that's a very human reaction. People are corrupt, humans are
self serving. But at least I thought that when bodies
were dropping, someone would say, hey, man, maybe we ought
to affect this. Apparently not. Apparently not, Carl. And honestly,
I feel no sympathy for when these people will will
meet the consequences because they had a chance. They saw
the crown laying in the gutter, it picked it up,
turned it over, dropped it back in the gutter, and said,
hey kid, you want a fifty year mortgage.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's what they did.
Speaker 2: Anyway, Carl, I've been ranting at you for twenty three minutes,
so I'll like you respond.
Speaker 7: No, I you know, I We're on the same wavelength.
And it's been it's been. My biggest concern is this
normalcy bias among just normal people out there who think
that it's nineteen eighty two. It is not nineteen eighty two.
The I posted something last night after you sent that
article out over and I was just of the same,
just thinking about all the people who are trying to
steer the GOP back into being just what it is,
which is the GOP, which is a part. It's not
even a party of beautiful losers, like Sam Francis said,
it's they make some of the mouth noises of being
beautiful losers, but in general there it's just like you said,
it's just a grift. It's it's a bust out operation
at this point. And the thing, the important thing is that.
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Speaker 7: Sensibly, they're not even going to be getting free money
anymore because the party is going to lose so badly
that it'll become irrelevant. If you look at the UK,
we've just seen parties that have been around for hundreds
of years and go from major players to like barely
on the game board anymore. They still have legacy money
on the back end because they're like a party, and
they're and they're gay as hell, but but no one cares, Like,
if you have zero support, it doesn't matter how much
money you have. If you lose and get wiped off
the board, you can't even run the scam anymore. So
what I did is I posted on the platform, stupidly
renamed X as our friend Ziman's referred to it, and
basically went through thirty five years of electoral history of
the Republican Party in terms of the presidential election results.
So I went nineteen ninety two to present, right, and
we have George HW. Bush as the incumbent losing to
Bill Clinton, and a lot of that was because of
the Gulf War. Right, there were other things as well.
The economy wasn't great, Ross pro Ran as a spoiler
got just shy of nineteen percent of the vote whatever,
huge umbers of disaffected people stayed home. Nineteen ninety six,
Bob Dolea lost to Bill Clinton despite having a riled
up right wing coming off the tail of a GOP
landslide in the nineteen ninety four midterms. Right, he totally
ate it because he was uninspiring, utterly conventional, stupid GOP platform.
Speaker 8: Right.
Speaker 7: Two thousand, George W. Bush barely squeaked over the finish
line in Florida with like a U you know, Supreme Court,
you know, mandated governed process, and a lot of what
he was talking about was we need to end the
forever wars and the nation building, which is just war light,
which the Democrats are doing. Okay, great, he wins, something happens,
some people do some things, there's a war. He gets reelected.
So here's two GOP elections back to back. But again
he barely squeaks by John Kerry with a few percentage points,
like two or three percentage points. The economy was doing
well ish right before it tanked. Right then. Two thousand
and eight, John McCain, you know, Senator blood Feast loses
in a landslide to Barack Houssein Obama, who fixes like
bad feelings and racism forever right. It worked out great,
huge numbers of disaffected people who said I'm not going
to vote for John McCain or Barack Obama stayed home.
Twenty twelve, Mitt Romney loses to Barack Hussein Obama despite
again a riled upright wing on the tail of GOP
landslides and the twenty ten midterms, because Romney sucked he
had a stupid GOP platform. Donald Trump descends the Golden escalators.
Any success the GOP has it in this period is
coming off reactions to Democrats being in power, and then
it gets flubbed at the national level by not only
the Congress, who has great rhetoric, but they get in
there and they do the usual crap. They don't really
fight the way they say they're going to. They take
care of the big boys. Screw Americans is always the
theme on all these things. Immigration. They use some rhetoric,
but they don't actually do anything about what you know,
Democrats are pushing. Democrats are importing not only Democrat voters,
but masses that can be used to stuff the ballot
boxes by Democrats. Of these uninterested people who aren't actually votevoting.
I want to remind you that illegal aliens don't really
vote that much. Ballots are stuffed by the Democrat Party
machines using these registered voters, these illegally registered voters, or
even if they pass laws saying it's legal whatever, they're
not legitimate votes. And then so Trump wins, big whoop,
the GOP fights him just as much as the Democratic Party,
and everything grinds to a fucking halt. So all the
stuff that we need to do this was flight ninety
three election scenario, which, as you pointed out, like the
plane is going to crash into something very important. At
least we can wrestle it away and have it crash
in a field and die heroes and save other people. No,
can't do that. We got it. We got to keep
the rhetoric, you know, respectable. We got to get invited
to the same Washington parties. We have to keep the
grift going. I just want to point something out that
took place in two thousand and nine through two thousand
and eight BC in China called the Chen Sheng and
Wu Guang Uprising, and it was the first uprising against
the Qin dynasty, and it was led by two generals.
They were army officers who were ordered to lead their
bands of commoner soldiers north to participate in the defense
of Yuyog. However, they were stopped halfway by flooding from
a severe rainstorm. The harsh laws of the Qin dynasty
mandated execution for those who showed up late for government jobs,
regardless of the nature of the delay or the cause.
So instead they rebelled and butchered their superiors, because the
penalty would have been the same if they had just
walked in and put their heads on the block, if
they had just shown up and said sorry. It is very,
very dangerous to spit in the face of your natural allies,
who are your descendants, who are your people, to spit
in their face, to prefer others, or just so that
you can continue your looting operation, because the punishment for
them is death. It literally is death. The punishment for
your entire society, based on the path that we're on,
is death. Like you said, Brazil, Brazil is worse than death.
In Brazil, at the very least, you have legacy racisms
is which allow people to create these enclaves where they
can actually blow away people who try to break in
and attack them in their homes, and you can't really
do that in America. The FEDS will come down from
helicopters and annihilate you if you try to, you know, basically,
reinstitute anything resembling freedom of association. And so continuing on
the path that we're on is death. So if are
you know, quote unquote moral superiors are constantly betraying the
supposed ideals that they preach to us and the supposed
beliefs that they want to shove down our throats, they
constantly violate those flagrantly. We know it, and they know it,
and they know that we know it. Why would we
listen to them, why would we care what they say?
And why would we treat them any differently theoretically than
some Chinese generals three thousand years ago when when they
were presented with the quandary that they faced.
Speaker 2: Well, and this is the the oft the often voked
in a rubicon, Caesar was put in a position where
quite simply, it was do or dot. He could either
do something unspeakable right, you know, violate this kind of
social contract, or he could be killed. Now, look, I'm
not advising anyone person to do what Caesar did. But
I am saying that you run into a problem. And
this is something that we saw, really. It floated often
during the Bike administration's response to COVID when they were saying,
you know, oh, if you don't you know, if you
don't take a treatment, well you can't have a job anymore. Well,
all of a sudden, you've basically just said you know,
you have You've told a bunch of people that they're
in sort of a do or die situation. And I
just want to clarify I am not fed posting. The
slightest here not allaying is that you need to create
a system where your citizens have buy in, where they
have a reason for doing what you want them to do.
Because you have a problem with scale, You can't actually
force everyone all at once to do something. You need
people to sort of self enforce to go by commonly
accepted rules because you can't have a policeman everywhere all
at once. Now, a certain dynamic that we see is
that you know, in kind of these you know, Banana
republics or your African dictatorships, the answer is, well, I
don't really care what you do so long as I'm
in charge. And maybe that's where we're headed. Maybe we
really are kind of speed running the transition to you know,
third world shithole. But it's a massive loss of authority.
You're no longer a real country anymore. You're kind of
this sort of garrison state. And what's especially galling to
me is to watch something like a functional high trust society,
you know, where so many things work without direct government
intervention first being transitioned into this sort of managerial state
where everything is effectively government dictat We've seen this in
the economy, right it sort of becomes a command economy,
but then again sort of willfully deconstructed into a non
functional sort of third world system blackwater. You call it
a third world shithole. I call it Central Maine. Fair enough, man,
I guess, or you know, another outpost of Somolia, as
I've been rightly informed. But anyway, right, nonetheless, to me,
it's incredibly it's incredibly galling, you know, and people often
have accused Trump of sort of fishing in the rubicon.
You're sticking your toe end maybe maybe not, oh maybe
maybe not. And what's especially irritating to me about that
is that the consequences for him personally are going to
be dire.
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the last click? Someone somewhere in their seat belt. I
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if you have something? What if the others take off
their belts in solidarity? What if I don't ask them?
Speaker 7: However bad you.
Speaker 15: Think asking will be, it's nothing compared to what could
happen if you don't.
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Speaker 7: No problem?
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Speaker 2: I happen to believe, you know, these sort of left
wing figures who basically said, like he's gonna die in jail,
we're gonna get it.
Speaker 7: Yeah, we're gonna get everyone who had anything to do
with him as well as we're going to go after
the people who voted for him.
Speaker 2: Well, and let's let's also acknowledge that this is being
applied now to you know, federal agents as well. Yeah,
this was sort of a story that's kind of come
and gone. But if you remember, you know, a group
of six Democrats kind of god, I man, I hate
Republicans so much, but termed as the sort of seditious
six is what they've been called, basically said, hey, remember
military remember ice agents. Uh, not only do you have
no obligation to follow an unconstitutional rule, but guess what,
you know, you might be criminally liable basically threatening. Yeah,
and when you combine that with you know, the reaction
to the you know, I guess semi successful assassination of
two National guardsmen in DC.
Speaker 7: Uh?
Speaker 2: Is my microphone really that quiet? People are saying it is?
Speaker 7: It sounds wonderful to me. Maybe everyone should turn their
speakers up. No, they're saying that louder than you. Whoa
is that two live? That's okay, I'll turn mine down,
all my speakers down?
Speaker 2: Cool, all right, why just juice my volume? Uh?
Speaker 7: Let me. People are saying it's good.
Speaker 2: I hate audio issues. Test test all right, it looks
good on the wait form. All right, anyway, we're uh, yeah,
this is the answer I was looking for. Your mic
is fine. Everyone is just poor and stupid, completely agree, man,
So true anyway.
Speaker 7: Oh shoot, but.
Speaker 2: As we you know, as we look at that, it's
this sort of this sort of you know, mix of
on one hand, you know, agitation towards violence to their
own people, right basically saying you know, oh you know
it is morally legitimate to resist you know, fascist orders.
Is kind of like whitewashing of you know, the the
assassins on uh, you know, Kirk, or the attempted assassination
of U, s assassination Trump. We're saying like, oh, those
aren't our guys, but you could understand why they did it,
you know, that sort of stuff. The kind of you know,
armed trans armed LGBT movement that you and I have
sort of been documenting back and forth for a while.
They're doing that while also informing the you know, duly
elected leaders of this nation and their supporters, either in
government or out, we will try you. Yeah, and the
sake of in the case of Hegseeth again, which I
can't believe I keep saying this, literally threatening him with
war crimes tributals, you know, let alone the kind of
soldiers involved in it. And again it's this sort of
the squeeze of basically you're creating a massive group of
people who have very little to lose. And that's really
dangerous because it's not as if there's even a person
to step in and say, okay, well you're my guys,
like I will act on your behalf, because the nominal
leadership is apparently fully willing to bite the pillow and
take it basically say like, yeah, we don't really want
to actually do anything that would be too much work,
while the opposition is saying we are coming to get you. Yeah,
We're coming for you. And to me, this is incredibly unstable,
incredibly unstable, and look man like you and I have
particularly radical politics. I get that, but ultimately we both
live here. I don't really look forward to what seems
to be coming, which is, you know, this kind of
explosion of political violence and criminality is very very unpleasant.
I mean, look, we've kind of teased it, and I
don't think we'll go through it directly, but you know,
you and I were sharing back and forth this article
from Wired, which this article is very very cringe. You
can find it if you want. It's written by Miniesha Krishnam.
Speaker 7: Very libertarian, left libertarian, coded.
Speaker 2: Wink wing, the hard left shooters leading a gun culture revolution.
So for a little bit of context on this, this
is basically an investigation into the kind of two a
for all space kind of surrounding two social media accounts,
one an account called tactical girlfriend uh not a girl,
and then and also another kind of infamous figure carl Cassada,
who is a in a polyamorous relationship with a transwoman
and a one time minister in the Church of Satan uh.
And what I thought was interesting about this is a
couple of things. One the kind of broader framing of
how these people are positioning themselves, the sort of like
backwards victim narrative by which Charlie Kirk being shot by
a guy who sleeps with a transwoman is an assault
on them personally. Yeah, Okay, I would have thought it
was the guy who got shot, but whatever. But also
the kind of what we've been talking about, which is
the the expectation and desire for political violence among these people. Carl,
I know you and I both have a lot of
you know, background on this, but did you want to
introduce Carl Cassata just briefly to those who aren't familiar.
Speaker 7: Carl Cassada is a bell who was involved in in
Range TV with Gun Jesus, who runs Forgotten Weapons, which
most of the time weapons aren't very forgotten.
Speaker 2: And for context on this these two figures, Ian McCollum
Forgotten Weapons has largely stayed completely and totally apolitical.
Speaker 7: Which is why he slid away from Carl Cassata.
Speaker 2: And this is a guy who you can kind of
guess that he's probably a little more liberal than most,
but goes out of his way to never talk about it.
It's very scholarly, and the two of them, like ten
years ago, had a side project together and effectively, this guy,
Carl Cassada, lost his marbles during Trump one point. Oh,
for all the reasons you can imagine, the two of
them parted ways. Carl kept the YouTube channel which was
very large, and so he has enjoyed outsized influence by
virtue of having someone else famous grow a YouTube channel
for him. Yes, And additionally, in the kind of fallout
from this, uh Carl has and depending on who you ask,
was either sort of in the area or heavily involved
in popularizing a group of shooting matches called Brutality. It
would be blank Brutality. They'd be themed and they're sort
of like extreme versions of stage shooting. So whereas it
like a USPSA or a DPA match, you'd kind of
you know, run around a course, lean around some barriers
and shoot paper targets, this is sort of one step
up from that, so you know, there'd be a physical component,
you know, a little bit more unpleasant. You might have
to you know, kind of combining a shooting match and
like a tough mutter event or you know those this
sort of like races where there's an endurance component, there's
a and they're not particularly serious.
Speaker 7: They're falling tedtle bells, toss.
Speaker 2: So it's a way to, yeah, do practical shooting with
a physical component through it.
Speaker 7: And stress stress induction is that is it's trying to
simulate combat and that you get a super elevated heart
rate and stuff like that and try to shoot.
Speaker 2: One, which sounds like a lot of fun. Never been
one makes sense. But what's interesting is because this guy
lost his mind and became a not became revealed himself
to be a almost actual Satanist, he started dragging this
more and more into left wing politics. Yeah right, you know,
talking constantly about different instances when you know base minorities
have used guns against the KKK, talking about how uh,
you know, one of the cooks in Colonel Custer's cavalry
regiment was trans all this kind of stuff, and so
has been doing particularly events where these are marketed to
the LGBTQ community, which means it is the exact same
crop of autistic men, just in dresses that would be
in a normal shooting competition anyway. So this order from
Wired goes in to sort of talk to, you know,
the left wing Second Amendment community, like what do they think?
And it's not a very good article. It's sort of
fumbled multiple times because first, you know, this was written
during the you know, the Kirk assassination, so that takes
up a large portion of it. But also because you know,
this person who I can't tell their gender from their name,
Star Wars name basically went to this event and then
there was you know, dry grass caught on fire, so
they had to call it. You know, it just wasn't
wasn't safe due to weather conditions or whatever. So it
was really kind of a pointless article. And it's not
a very good article. I'm not saying you should read it.
But what it is interesting for is to kind of
get a view into the trantiss aries right the armed
transgender lunatics. There's a number of different groups associated with it,
the SRA, Socialist Rifle Association, the John Brown Gun Club, others.
But what's interesting to me is the language with which
they are speaking. And Carl, I'll throw it to you
because I've been talking too much. How would you describe
the information from.
Speaker 7: This It it's very victim termed like. But also they're
they're pushing this like this is the new normal and
we have to embrace these obvious violent lunatics and this
is this is the righteous expression of like Second Amendment,
which is we you know, these are the people who
are going to be out there slugging away against you know,
the evil right wing for us and we should get
behind them because it's great. Uh, it's glowing, turned like
the language is glowing. We can tell by the name,
you know, if this isn't if the author isn't a
trannissary who's transracial, which is something that happens a lot
where they give themselves names from far away lands to
you know, further de white assize themselves, which is what
this is all about. I'm one of the good ones.
I'm not a bad white. It's it's this glowing language
preparing the battle space. And again this is wired. Wired
is a libertarian slash techie left right, and it's saying
that this is to the two A is for everyone.
You know, YadA, YadA, YadA. They're preparing the battle space
so that you can be shot by one of these
lunatic Trannis series. That's the whole point of all this,
that this is normal, and it's also there's this other
element to it. And I always go back to like
Spanish Civil War, you know, as a topic, just because
it's my wheelhouse at this point in life. But it's
also illustrative, which is that the when you look at Spain,
there was the kind of normal, normal leftists who aren't
like bloodthirsty who are like I just want these outcomes
and I want the government to be like this, and
I don't want the bad things to happen. And they
were instantly shoved to the side by the lunatics. Because
in when bullets are flying both ways, people who are
actually going to be firing them are the ones who
climb to the top. So insane anarchists.
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Speaker 7: Most importantly, Soviet backed communists, who were a very small
faction initially took over the whole thing because they were
the ones who had the resources and were the most extreme.
And this is battlespy space preparation for that kind of
a situation, like transparently. So when you read the language
about it, well one.
Speaker 2: Hundred right, it is very much, uh, you know, a whitewashing,
a desire to kind of turn armed lunatics into you know,
kind of chic edgy icons. You see that with this
technical girlfriend figure there, there's like genuinely gushing pros talking
about how how.
Speaker 7: Brave and beautiful striking. Yeah, I mean it's it's a
dude with I makeup.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you notice, by the way, uh, like many others,
always covers the lower half of his face.
Speaker 7: Yes, in.
Speaker 2: Common theme there.
Speaker 7: Ah.
Speaker 2: But I think that when we combine all of this,
you get this picture of what is to come and
is not particularly rosy. You get the direct threats that
like we were coming for you, We are going to
you know, charge you with crimes, We are going to
go after you know, podcasters, social media figures. Obviously the
real victims of this. Podcasters are the really the point
of society is to predict a podcaster, but you soldiers,
government agents, politicians, and at the same time kind of
whitewashing both the same sort of lunatics who are in
the process of waging kind of a low level domestic
terror campaign, whitewashing them and also giving them time to
say like, oh, we expect there to be sort of
an analogous situation to the years of lead. That's what
we think is coming. And of course it's all cast
in victim narrative casts. Oh Tucker is going to get me. Oh,
you know, Laura Loomer is going to get me, which is,
to be fair, something I would be terrified of. That
woman looks like a escape science experiment, so reasonable fear
in that one instance. But nonetheless, that is what is
being seated, the idea that you know, these sort of
figures are doing a good and laudable thing, and.
Speaker 7: That was implicitly said for the listeners out there. They
specifically invoked the years of lead. Uh. Taxical girlfriend specifically
cited that.
Speaker 2: And and what's so, I guess kind of yes, yeah,
is that they they do kind of close ups on
their gear one uh, for anyone interested in tactical gear.
Patches are Reddit and cringe. Don't lease them, especially not
to the degree done in this one. But you see
these kind of you know, typical you know, left wing
slogans but kind of turned up an not except for blood.
Like yeah, you'll have like arm or like protect trans
kits with the trans flag and M four on it. Okay,
well that's a slightly edgier version of the you know,
the stiletto image something you see elsewhere. But also you'll
have something as similar as like basically and let me
get the exact quote here. Yes, so it's a picture
of a skull with a knife through it. Death to
all who stand in the way of freedom for queer people.
Several things. One leftist meme, stereotype, undef it's way too
many words to put on a piece of political propaganda.
It's it's like this long, you can't read the text.
But also, uh, what do you think that means? Bud? Yeah, literally,
just after talking about the assassination of Kirk, it's like,
oh yeah, death to people who stand in the way
of queer liberation. And earlier they mentioned, of course, the
stats that not only was neither assassin related to the
trans community. We know that that is false. Just look
at the relationship that Tyler Robinson was in. Sorry, the
was Tyler Robinson the Kirk shooter? I was get the
mixed up.
Speaker 7: I'm pretty sure the Kirk shooter. Yes, yes, yes, I.
Speaker 2: Was get him and Crooks backwards. Point is the we
know that's not correct, correct, But when you combine that
with you know, basically talking about the oh, the the
deep irony you know, and this is something they mentioned
something you'll hear elsewhere, the deep irony of Kirk talking
about guns and then he's shot with a gun. Isn't
that Isn't that funny? Isn't that laughable? It's like, well,
I mean, I can respect the poetic irony here, but
also man like, you do realize what's happening, You do
realize what this results in, like just rampant political assassination.
And again, while this is just being whitewashed, it's genuinely
I don't want to say scary. I'm not quaking in
my boots, but to me, the prognosis is very clear
that the nominal right in America has made it clear
that they are not a serious political force, that they
are abandoning their hope for the future. They are abandoning
any sort of possibility of forming a coalition going forward.
They just discarded that as an option. They do not care.
They're creating a circumstance for increased political radicalization on both sides,
while their enemies are not only stoking the flames of
radicalization but making it clear we are coming for you,
we are going to get you. And so in my mind,
this has just really put a nail in the coffin
of the conservative movement right. Clearly, they are not a
real political party. And we all knew this, right and
I understand that people have been you know, posting the
fel for it again, you know, posting the you know,
you're an idiot forever trying a couple of things. One,
Pessimists are right, Optimists make money. You got to take
a swing every once in a while, right, especially when
you were presented with a series of we would say,
in the virgin community, not twenties, right, the crazy once,
you know, incredibly uncommon windfall, Like, oh great, wow, our
guy has this iconic image, you know, survive in the assassination.
Let's see what we can do with that. Oh he's
doing things, saying things that would actually produce meaningful results. Oh,
he's got guys behind him. Oh not only that, you know,
we have this dramatic political assassination. So look, it was
sort of a perfect storm of can we reform this
within the system? Everything went right that should have gone right,
and what happened nothing. This is not a real political part.
It's not a real political movements. A group of losers,
A group of losers who are much more interested in
their gibs right where that is personally or to their
you know, clients across the ocean, than they are actually
one preserving or representing any sort of country whatsoever, or
seemingly securing their own existence, avoiding jail time, not being
shot by insane sexual degenerates. It's baffling, like genuinely baffling,
you know, It's sort of like people are sort of
shocked when they learned that, you know, there are some
animals that are quite literally too stupid to save themselves,
right like if you, you know, turn a sheep over
and sand. I don't know if it's true or not.
I've heard it repeated. It just can't get up. It'll
starve to death. It is so unsuited for that situation,
will die. And to me, that is what the Republican
Party is. A genuine genetic dead end, an animal the dodo,
literally too stupid to live outside of the exact environment
for which it was born. And yeah, I have no
sympathy for these people at all.
Speaker 7: Can I point something out here real quick? So Soligoal
commented in chat. Wired is owned by Conde Nast, which
also owns Reddit. Conde Nast also owns Vogue, The New Yorker, GQ, Glamour,
Architectural Digest, Vanity, Fair, Bon Appetite, and Pitchfork. And then
on top of that, who owns Conde Nast, Like it's
all these massive media conglomerates there's a lot of power
behind this piece being put out. You mentioned Reddit, who
was the most powerful moderator on Reddit, Like, it's basically
completely proven at this point, just laying Maxwell, It's true.
It's weird, Yeah, Maxwell Hill, it.
Speaker 2: Is just a random, you know, factoid. Isn't that funny?
Speaker 7: Isn't it funny time? Hm? It's gonna just gonna stroke
my chin? What a What a wacky coincidence? What a
wacky coincidence? No, it's fascinating. And the I think the
other side of this is is so so Jay. You've
been talking about the the the parasites who are like
the the good boys within the GOP, like we could say,
who are doing doing the thing, you know, to to
get there, to get their gibbs. The other side of
it are the the raving Zionists who think that they're
that they're a complicent, that this can be done, that
they can wrestle back the party UH into their total
control while keeping it relevant. And the most important thing
to understand there is that they can't. That they will
just be a not only a party of losers, but
they will lose so badly that it will have been
a totally wasted investment on the part of the let's say,
advocates for the most specialist Middle Eastern democracy ever and
only Middle Eastern democracy, right, so it's it can be
this great. So they they wrestle back ownership of the
party and none of the stuff ever comes out again,
right like the geob let's say, the GOP becomes totally
cut them again. Well, there goes any relevance in elections
ever again, like totally gone. And they've already, like I've
pointed out, they've already been so outed as this like
controlled opposition party for so long that the only thing
that got them victory again after years, you know, of
straight losing, you know, with thirty five years of only
partial success, was Donald Trump, who came in with a
totally different platform that people actually wanted, where all these
disaffected regular Americans supported him. And yes, there are all
these other people who came in to the coalition. You know,
there's all the people who are like the left left
me or you know, the you know, the based Florida
Cubans who both poor Donald Trump, Donald Trump and you
know and all that. Yeah, sure, but his real base
is white Americans who stopped voting and so all the
people who's tummy's hurt by, you know, the stuff that
needs to be done so that we don't get shot
in the back of the head and thrown into my
graves or just like raped for the rest of time
and your grandchildren raped for the rest of time. The
only thing that you can do is resist that with
state power, lawfully enforcing existing laws and getting rid of
the people that are enabling the stuff or doing this stuff,
which I still feel like we're going to see a
decent amount of that, Like there's a lot of wheels
that are in motion at this point where again it's
not going to be everything, of course not, but these
small chunks where we're going to see this improvement. And
then what that'll allow us to do is to use
that in our rhetoric or to orient our own lives.
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Speaker 2: So I realized this is probably the wrong time to
bring this up because we are in an hour. But
I get sent a really interesting podcast by friend of
the show, Stormy Waters. So I've never listened to this
podcast before. I know nothing about it. It was a
singularly good episode, so it is TFTC a Bitcoin Podcast,
Episode six eighty eight with Mark Mitchell, who I believe
runs Resmusen recommend it. It's really fascinating because he basically
offers the same analysis you and I have, talking about
the problems facing younger voters and the massive issue that
this creates for the Republican Party, and he recounts meeting
with the President to tell him about this, and it's interesting,
he basically said. The only person who even kind of
gets that is JD. Van's interesting if you combine this
with the analysis that Stormy and I kind of came
up with, you know, as regards the kind of woke
right smear right it seems to be directed at Vance,
who knows. Again, not the biggest fan of him personally,
but it's interesting how many people I hate are interested
and get getting rid of him anyway. But to get
back to it, one of the things he talks about,
because he is a Polster, is some really interesting findings
among particularly younger voters, which his younger conservatives are extremely
comfortable with one basically a dictator. Effectively, he floated this,
He's like, how comfortable would you be with an unaccountable
AI running the system? Okay, which we understand what that
actually needs right, just unaccountable authority, you know, a top
down directive. And the demographic that supports this the most
by a large margin. It's like, I think it's like
plus twenty years plus thirty it's a significant amount. Is
conservatives under forty interesting other things that conservative under forties
talk about is apparently, according to him, very comfortable discarding
the kind of shibboleths of you know, liberal economics, right,
nationalizing industry, you know, banning things like AI. Basically you know,
which is I guess deeply ironic given other findings. But
we've got to understand that the question isn't necessarily what's
important here, it's what it reveals, uh, basically saying those
people have broken from libertarian economics. And he puts forth
the argument effectively that you know, when when people are
all freaked out about you know, people you know, voting
for universal basic income or this kind of attitude of whatever,
I don't care, just let me afford a house, let
me afford healthcare, whatever that is, just fix it. His
argument is that that is effectively the same thing on
both the right and the left that Mamdani voters are
likely And we understand that, you know, there's multiple different
parties supporting Mumdani, but a large portion of it was
these kind of you know, young progressive white people, is
effectively a desire to solve it. Right, this has become
a Gordian knot, and there's this massive pent up desire
for solutions. And what's so aggravating, and I've said that
phrase one hundred times of this episode has got stuck
in my brain for whatever reason, is that that the
offering in some semblance of solutions does not require breaking
the Republican Party, does not require breaking the system. It
is technically possible to reform this, but anyone in charge
seems so unwilling to do anything other than enrich themselves
in the short term at their own let's not even
say long term, medium term detriment, like what three years,
It's not that long of a time frame before consequence
has become real. It was on one hand sort of
black pilling, right that this movement people in charge but
are completely and totally incompetent. But also interesting from the
perspective of like, oh like, there are a large number
of very discontented people who are okay with relatively radical solutions, right,
who are okay with kind of discarding you know, the
rule of law like that was one of the other things,
like when he asked young people, Uh, he asked young
people basically like, well, how would you feel about, you know,
throwing judges in jail? How would you feel about, you know,
deporting people like you know Hamdani or people like Johanomar
realize PNG. Yeah, but those again were the highest rates
of support. These people are interested in something you know, radical,
because I think it's important to say. I think when
this this era is written about, people will not view
current sort of economic woes as particularly separate from eight
that this is largely the same crisis and has been
sort of a slow boiling crisis the whole time, with
kind of different punctuations, And to me, I see that
as being accurate. The system majorly broke thirteen years ago,
and we haven't really found a way to fix it.
There were some band aids with certain things that Obama did,
you know, certain things that Trump did, but it's not working.
It's really not working, and that is going to become
a massive liability for someone and it doesn't necessarily have
to be the Republican Party. But they seemingly are are
setting up for it, Max Pain. It was episode six
eighty eight of that podcast. The guy's name is Mark Mitchell,
so check that out. I thought it was pretty interesting.
But Carl, we are fast coming up on time. If
anyone wants to send their questions or comments via super chat,
will be happy to address them. But before we do that,
I'll let you respond to that, Carl.
Speaker 7: No think. I think there are people that are getting this,
that they're coming around to actually thinking about it, and
a lot of thought leaders have been in advance. We
saw a bunch of Silicon Valley guys who who are
you know, a little more normal ish. I mean, they're
still you know, billionaire titans and stuff, but they've been
talking about this stuff very in very practical terms. Even
twenty years ago, there was a lot of talk about
economic populism and pitchforks being on the horizon in a
lot of a lot of environments, and I think, you know,
it's been interesting to see how it's played out and
how honest people are being about it. You know, it
gets it gets very party in party political oriented. To
use a Thomisism conjugation, but people just don't know what
to do or what to think. And I think a
lot of people are realizing, you know, what they're dealing
with at this point in time. But again, you know,
the the key point being is the power players are
stuck in the mud, and it becomes impossible to address
it honestly, Like you can't talk honestly about politics anymore.
Like the totally normal thing that happened in twenty twenty
and took place basically until like through some point in
twenty I want to say, some point after October seven,
twenty twenty three. Right, everything was totally normal and was
a perfect expression, the perfect platonic expression of our democracy.
And now all these people have been reacting to it
as they kind of scramble for their own for their
own interests and benefit. And the ones who are being
honest about it and are able to speak openly and
candidly about it are doing much better and they have
a path to the future, and the ones that are
suppressing it have no future and are throwing away the
future of our country and our society and like quite
possibly humanity at this point. I mean, I think long term,
you know, we're gonna we're gonna win, but they're endangering
they're endangering humanity by by supporting the path that the
march to Brazil, the Brazilification of everything, and uh, fortunately
a lot of people are starting to speak out, even
though like the big players are generally pretending, you know,
that everything is the house that is on fire as
they sit at the table a dog and a hat
say this is fine.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is uh incredibly aggravating. So one thing I
will say, Uh, I'm just gonna chill just shamelessly here
unrelated almost anything we talk about. I did a very
rare effort post long article.
Speaker 7: It's very good.
Speaker 1: Oh uh.
Speaker 2: Anyway, so if you want to go over to my substack,
read an article I wrote called James Lindsay's no good,
very bad article. They could be honest, kind of unrelated
really to what we talked about, but it is sort
of a takedown of the reaction towards growing right wing
youth radicalism, which is an argument where James Lindsay basically
says you are completely and totally insane if you disagree
with me. And also Schmid's friend enemy distinction is illegitimate.
It slightly abbreviated. That's basically his argument. I think it
will be interesting to see the jockeying for the last
scraps of relevance from kind of conservative bank. I think
they have fully and totally lost the base and they
are going to get shellacked going forward. But nonetheless, characters
like Lindsay and a few others seem to be sort
of auditioning for you know, roles as kind of the
you know, the captain of the Titanic right, looking for
a role as a gatekeeper of you know, ever diminishing
sort of intellectual playground. I think that will continue, I think,
and this is something that Stormy and I put forward.
But my guess is the way that this is going
to be spun is we have lost in twenty twenty
eight or we have lost in twenty twenty six because
of our radical wink. And what we really need to
do is refocus on being what we always were, which
is a war mongering party of corporate horrors. Yeah, and
that's the real core Republican message. And if you disagree
with that, you're the reason we lost. So we need
to cancel. We need to get you out. Chronicles Magazine
Paul godfre each piece which dropped yesterday. It was called
Preparation for a Purge.
Speaker 7: Quite good.
Speaker 2: You know someone who lived through, you know, the first
round of neocon purging. I recommend reading that if you
want to dig more into it. But effectively, not only
are we supposed to if we do everythingere supposed to
foot the bill going to be blamed for their own incompetence.
I think that that is really the kind of goal
behind the woke right stuff, is to create a specter
of a fall guy for their own incompetent so we
don't actually have to don't actually have to, you know,
bearing responsibility? One super chat? Has no one told you
your cries are all invain I'm not sure I kept
the reference, but I do under I guess sympathize with
the message behind it. But uh, Carl Man, we've gone
over so this is unusually rant filled for me. I
barely let you talk at all. That's podcasting. But uh,
where can people find you?
Speaker 7: Man? Best place to find me is on my substack,
which is Carldall dot substack dot com. That's k A
R L d a h L dot substack dot com.
Got two books on Amazon, Faction and Faction with the Crusaders.
Both are very relevant to your interests. If you have
any sympathies with regards to you, the kind of topics
that we're discussing. And final point I would say is
you invoked Mark Mitchell from Rasmussen and his appearance on
that podcast. I will listen to that. But he's also
been on a tear on X and is he's a
very good poster on X. So people should give Mark
Mitchell a follow after they buy book. But thanks Jay,
great talking to you well.
Speaker 2: Again man, it was awesome speaking to you. You guys
know where to find me anyway.
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