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Speaker 4: Does not she expire into like twenty forty or something?

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Speaker 6: Get the facts?

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Speaker 5: Be drink aware?

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Speaker 2: Dot e Carl? We're back. How are you doing? Man?

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Speaker 7: Doing well?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm glad to have you back on our streams.

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Have been doing quite well and unfortunately we did have

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to take some time out to you know, go to

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Speaker 7: Know whatever and time with family.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, something unimportant right as such. But how have you

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Speaker 7: Doing great? No, it's been it's actually been really nice.

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I love this time of year. The mood is awesome.

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all in quick succession, and so this is just a

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very nostalgically wonderful time of year for me. So I'm

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in I'm in very good spirits but also outraged at

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean, look, that's why I bring you on.

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It's just for outrage. Uh So, I'm sort of two

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seemingly disparate topics I want to talk about. And as

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you can see, and for those wondering how this works,

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quite literally, I say, hey, Carl, do you want to

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do a live stream? He's like yes, And then sometimes

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you ask me like what do you want to talk about?

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And I very honestly will say I'll let you know

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three minutes before we go, because you know, that's that's

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how professional podcasters work, right.

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Speaker 7: I think you texted me like, look at this, I

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won't tell you what my angle is until we're live,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty much. So, as you can see the title,

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we're talking about high trust societies a couple of things,

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right You and I have you know, spent plenty of time,

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you know, boomer bashing as regards the economy. Lent me

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give me a second. We're having audio issues on the

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just I call you, uh, all right, this let me

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Speaker 7: You sound melodious and perfect to me, so.

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trust societies. So I was talking to a mutual friend

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of ours, Carl, and uh he floated the uh, the

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factoid that if you look at countries like Italy in particular,

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creates this problem where effectively everyone's working under the table.

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punishing that you can't really it's not worth it until

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you hit a certain point. But also, there's really no

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incentive anymore to play by the rules of the system, right.

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number of college graduates who have secured employment by the

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time they leave has cretered to twenty two don't quote

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with this is we're disincentivizing playing by the rules, disincentivizing

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doing what you're supposed to do. I read an article,

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it in the American Conservative talking about why young men

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constantly told that they are the problem, that they they

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are what's wrong with society, and that's produced a reaction.

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in recent conversations about gen Zu. Nikki Haley's son appeared

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on Tucker and did Yeoman's work. There is this feeling

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that when you've done everything right by the book, done

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everything that you were supposed to do, when older people,

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in society, and it doesn't work. You were effectively punished

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for doing that. You're going to create a large jumpmber

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of people who basically just say, screw it. Why would

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why does this matter? Surely if everyone is just acting

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in their own self interest, that will produce the best

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system one. Not entirely true, but let's remember the fact

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that there are a great number of things in society

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that depend on a gentleman's agreement, that depend on everyone

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sort of doing what they're supposed to by anyone actually checking. Right,

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acting as they should. And really, when we talk about,

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their idealized youth, what they're really idealizing is a high

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trust system exactly. Laphorisms about people saying, oh, you could

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hitchhike anywhere you know any random adult, would you know,

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bring your runaway son home? Was that true? Largely speaking? Yes,

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the kind of like horrible bend Tomite liberals will say

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things like, well, actually crime is down, it was much

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more dangerous in the fifties. One, I'd be curious to

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see how you got that data.

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than reality, right, the fact that people feel as if

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the average person that they interact with is on the

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same page, maybe not specifically, but close enough to work.

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you're going to lose access to any number of nice,

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pleasant things about living in a normal society. I noticed

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they don't understand why young people are so discontented. They

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don't understand why young people simply can't fall back on

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the same kind of like social network that they did.

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not on the same page. People do not trust the

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first person they encounter, because, let's be honest, even on

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that social cohesion is gone, that social trust is gone.

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extremely high trust society, extremely say monocultural but homogenized society.

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about new arrivals going into a park and clubbing ornamental

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geese to death and eating them, that's that's kind of

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an example of what we're talking about, right, Something that

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was public common good soon to be everyone's sort of

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but there were no guards around it, there were no

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fence around it. It was just there and everyone was

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comes out and said it doesn't share that common assumption,

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that is a resource to be exploited, that is something

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to be taken. And look, that's a silly example. I

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think the world is poorer for you know, fewer ornamental

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swans and geese in public park. But you know, there's

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no direct correlation between having nice water fowl and having

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a good society. But I don't know if you followed this,

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Carl the the sort of ongoing welfare scandal out of Minnesota.

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Have you have you caught this?

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Speaker 7: I am not only aware of it, I've seen it

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play out locally and it's appalling an equivalent, an equivalent

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same basically same population plus others grafted on. It's that

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the state of it is staggering, like our economy is

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a giant scam at this point.

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Speaker 2: But proceed one hundred percent. And even if you look

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at something like welfare, right, and look, welfare has always

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been corrupt in the US for pretty much as long

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as the welfare state has exist. We understand that. But

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there's a certain amount of drag, there's a certain amount

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of corruption. The system can bear a lot of. It's

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just human, right, look at Tamney Hall, Corruption, patronage, whatever

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you want to call it, is sort of endemic to

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human politics. It's what we do. Obviously, you would like

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to minimize it or at least channel in a productive direction.

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Speaker 7: That sounds wild. You're supposed to get nothing and like it.

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Speaker 2: Well, so look at this scandal. So this has been

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brewing for a while. You have Donald Trump, who you know,

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I think many of us have been cooling on. But

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I'll be honest, when he called Tim Walls retarded, I

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thought that was pretty funny. And that's really what kind

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of made the headlines. You know, President Trump called Tim

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Walls retarded, which is, let's be honest, I, from my

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perspective a generous description of the man. But regardless, the

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context of that is this massive welfare scandal in Minnesota,

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particularly surrounding the Somali community. Effectively, it seems as if,

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according to best estimates, every one of the eighty thousand

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Somalis has basically defrauded the state government out of roughly

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twenty thousand dollars. Not to say that literary minimum, but

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if you take the average of how much was defrauded

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by the number of people, it comes out to around

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twenty thousand ahead. So look at that, right, That is,

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relatively speaking, a high trust system. Many of these had

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to do with, you know, grants for children with autism,

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for early disability, early learning stuff, and completely setting aside

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if government programs are a good thing, talk about that late. Nonetheless,

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this is a high trust system where we didn't really

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expect anyone to protect and that every single kid they

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had was autistic so they could get gifts. Like sure,

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someone might do that, but the system was not designed

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with that low level of social trust, that understanding that yeah,

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sure maybe you need welfare, but you shouldn't use it

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too much. It's shameful it's not a desirable thing to do. Now, Look,

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was this system set up in such a way to

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allow that one hundred percent? Was at least according to

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whistleblowers from the Minnesota DHS Twitter account, was this deliberately

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done by that administration as a form of patriots one

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hundred percent? But that is another one of these systems

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we see breaking down under different sort of cultural conceptions

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of what is appropriate at what you can do. And

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I think a large part of this comes down to ownership. Right,

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do you feel that you are a partial owner of

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your town, your city, where you live. Do you feel like, well,

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if someone else is taking advantage of that, it's taking

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away from my thing, something I care about. And one

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of the big problems both obviously with immigration, but also

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in this kind of rootlessness we see promoted by Ben Shapiro,

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for example, who said you don't have the right to

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grow up or to live where you grow up, move

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to where you can find a better job. You're responding

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to discontented youth.

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Speaker 7: I'm going to move to Israel.

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Speaker 2: The inability of young people to join the property ladder

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is that they have nothing at stake. It's not years anything,

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and in fact they are punished for a desire to

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make it there to take on ownership. What they're basically

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being offered is when you listen to you conservatives talk,

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is the argument is basically, your job is to be

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the bad end of the trade forever, to fund the

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retirement of other people. To if you can scrounge together

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enough money to for purchase house to fund the retirement

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of someone else, that's the best we can get. Basically,

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let yourself get screwed. And so it's completely rational on

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an individual level to say, well, fair enough, I am

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not going to engage. I do not care about this system.

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I'm acting in my own self interest. You see a

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lot of you know, effective people who in another era

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would be doing something productive moving into other less productive industries.

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that because that's a place where you can make money

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let alone, right like the crypto space or anywhere else

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where these kind of like scammy, unproductive quote unquote you

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know ways to accrue wealth are but also right, I

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think we were going to see the rise of the

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same sort of culture we see in places like Italy,

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where you see a desire to cheat cheat on taxes,

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cheat on recording your income, because again it is rational

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to do so you're being punished for doing the right thing.

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And it doesn't just apply to economics, right, that same

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instinct that says, well, even if no one is going

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to catch me, I should do the right thing. That is,

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I owe society that once you lose that, it's well

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and truly gone. And I think that when we look

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at the rising radicalism on the left and the right,

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it's effectively that people do not have a stake in

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society anymore. It has been given to other people. It

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has been taken away that birthright. And when I say

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birth right, I don't mean some lavish inheritance. I mean

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simply having a country. Being able to sort of have

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a stake in society is effectively a luxury. It's for

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rich people. And well, look, most people aren't rich. And

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so when most people do not feel an attachment to

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where they live, when most people do not feel an

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attachment to the system as it, it's no shock. And

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it's particularly you do troubling when you see conservatives you

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kind of mouthing bromides about you know, patriotism and the

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free market, because all of those depended on people caring

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about the system. You are patriotic because it is yours, Yeah,

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exactly not yours. If anyone is an American, well why

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would I sign up? Why would I do anything more

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than the bare minimum to get ahead? You saw this

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in education as well. You know I've mentioned it multiple times.

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I was in college during COVID, and that exact attitude

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of well, I'll just cheat to get ahead because there's

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no real reason. They're not teaching me anything anyway, and

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all I need is a number, All I need is

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a degree, and then I'll be done. That attitude was

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rampant because it was it was completely rational. Now, when

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I say rational, I don't mean good. I don't mean

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everyone should think like that or act like that. But

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it's entirely reasonable, right, people acting in their own self interest.

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And another thing to mention is when we talk about

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a high trust, it is like many things dependent on

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a long chain of sort of lifetime additions to a society, right,

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a long chain of people who left things better than

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they found them. You see this in Chesterton, Right, Rome

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was not men. Men did not love Rome because she

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was beautiful. She was beautiful because men loved her right.

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Over the course of hundreds of years, you know, dozens

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of generations, people sacrificed their immediate kind of short term

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gain for the sake of a society, for the sake

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of a culture, for the sake of a town, even

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their own family. But once that's broken, once you have

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broken that chain, it is very, very difficult to get back.

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gain idea that the GDP, the stock market, as we've

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heard from Trump, is the most relevant or most relevant metric,

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rather when we're talking about a society, because now it's not.

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high trust society for a momentarily rich society. And look,

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man like, I understand it. You know, you can't crash

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the economy overnight and produce a number of bad results.

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But at the same time, it is no wonder that

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the Conservatives are floundering right now. It seems very likely

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that the Republicans will get shellacked in the midterms, shell

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Act in twenty twenty eight because they have offered rising

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generation almost nothing, nothing at all. And look, this matters

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more than just the kind of you know, soft and

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squishy things I've talked about, Right, this matters more than

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just the sort of tragedy of the common stuff, because again,

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when we look at the polling, this is kind of interesting. Right,

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Liberals are very, very worried about right wing violence. See

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the same thing among conservatives, And we could say the

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Conservatives have a pretty good point, right. You know, their

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guy got shot in the ear, their number one sort

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of public promoter got brutally assassinated. Then a number of

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these kind of like low level terror attacks fomenting, and

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again that is the consequences for losing. It made that

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very clear. Paul Godfrey, in a very good essay for

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The Blaze came out on the twentieth I don't remember

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the exact name, makes exactly this point. The narrative coming

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out is that the reason why Democrats are winning is

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because they're focused on affordability. I don't think Paul Gottfreech

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says that's not true. What is true is that Republicans

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are losing because of affordability. Yes, because Trump has basically

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made himself synonymous with the system, synonymous with the government,

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synonymous with big business. That so many people were unsatisfied

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with during the Biden years, So that is why the

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Republicans are losing so well. How are the Democrats gaining

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support among their own audience? Effectively murderous rage basically saying

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we are going to persecute these people to the end

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of the year. And look, when your liberal aunt says that,

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does she literally mean she is going to kill Elon Musk? No,

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she doesn't. But the unhinged is kind of farther out

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in the sort of people we've seen involved in these

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terror attacks, the kind of furries and bizarre sex pests.

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They're acting on it, right, They genuinely believe that, you know,

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this is a fascist coup and to save democracy, to

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avert transgenocide, we need to gun these people down. And again,

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a large part of that is you've created this this

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den of disaffected people who have nothing at stake, have

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no way to index with the system at all, and have,

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to be honest, nothing to lose. And so when we

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look at this kind of rapid flip flop between one

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party and the other, it's easy to say, you know,

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to kind of get deep into the details about you know,

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XYZ demographic, But I think for a large portion of

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large number of people. It really comes down to that

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feeling of having no way to index, having no way

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to sort of involve themselves in the process as it exists,

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and so this sort of radicalism is an entirely predictable result.

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I'll throw it back to you, Carl, and then we

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can dig into this article that I want to read

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a little bit. But yeah, so that's sort of my

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thoughts there. And what's especially frustrating is that I think

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for many of us, we saw Trump two as an opportunity, right,

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as an opportunity to actually avert something very nasty, because

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it seems, as it look the the problem with Trump

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one was simply a lack of organization, a lack of desire,

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and we solved that. We seemingly, you got the plant,

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and what happened. Nothing happened. Literally, nothing happened. Okay, sure,

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we got some wins on immigration, which is fine, but

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the immediate pitvot to well, we got rid of you know,

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illegal immigrants, so now we can let in you know,

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six hundred thousand Chinese students, you know, seven hundred thousand,

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h one b's, you know, hundreds and hundreds of thousands

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of people, all while offering, you know, young people, the

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fig leaf of we'll take a fifty year mortgage that

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is going to one sort of accelerate this process of

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becoming a low trust society, becoming a society like Brazil,

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like South Africa, you know, a society where people do

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not play by the rules, where they see playing by

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the rule as a sucker's choice, and also increased radicalization.

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You're going to push people to the fringes. And so

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to me, this is entirely predictable, and it's especially galling

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because the consequences of losing here are dire. Incredibly so

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if we have seen this sort of murderous rage, the

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desire to take even someone like Hegseth, who I'm no

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fan of, but try him for war crimes, you're to

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throw these people in jail. And so, I don't know.

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To me, it's proven what we've known for a long time,

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which is that conservatives in America are not serious. They're

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not a real political party. They are simply a grifting operation.

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And again I'm going to reference this article because it's very,

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very good, but Godfried made the point that they do

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not care about the stated goals of being a political party.

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What they care about is Gibbs, either personally or to

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their special interests, and that's all that matters. And look,

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that's a very human reaction. People are corrupt, humans are

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self serving. But at least I thought that when bodies

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were dropping, someone would say, hey, man, maybe we ought

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to affect this. Apparently not. Apparently not, Carl. And honestly,

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I feel no sympathy for when these people will will

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meet the consequences because they had a chance. They saw

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the crown laying in the gutter, it picked it up,

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turned it over, dropped it back in the gutter, and said,

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hey kid, you want a fifty year mortgage.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's what they did.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, Carl, I've been ranting at you for twenty three minutes,

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so I'll like you respond.

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Speaker 7: No, I you know, I We're on the same wavelength.

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And it's been it's been. My biggest concern is this

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normalcy bias among just normal people out there who think

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that it's nineteen eighty two. It is not nineteen eighty two.

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The I posted something last night after you sent that

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article out over and I was just of the same,

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just thinking about all the people who are trying to

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steer the GOP back into being just what it is,

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which is the GOP, which is a part. It's not

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even a party of beautiful losers, like Sam Francis said,

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it's they make some of the mouth noises of being

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beautiful losers, but in general there it's just like you said,

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it's just a grift. It's it's a bust out operation

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at this point. And the thing, the important thing is that.

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Speaker 7: Sensibly, they're not even going to be getting free money

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anymore because the party is going to lose so badly

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that it'll become irrelevant. If you look at the UK,

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we've just seen parties that have been around for hundreds

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of years and go from major players to like barely

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on the game board anymore. They still have legacy money

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00:27:49,799 --> 00:27:53,119
on the back end because they're like a party, and

472
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:58,039
they're and they're gay as hell, but but no one cares, Like,

473
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:01,400
if you have zero support, it doesn't matter how much

474
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:05,359
money you have. If you lose and get wiped off

475
00:28:05,599 --> 00:28:10,279
the board, you can't even run the scam anymore. So

476
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:15,720
what I did is I posted on the platform, stupidly

477
00:28:15,759 --> 00:28:21,720
renamed X as our friend Ziman's referred to it, and

478
00:28:22,319 --> 00:28:27,759
basically went through thirty five years of electoral history of

479
00:28:27,799 --> 00:28:33,400
the Republican Party in terms of the presidential election results.

480
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So I went nineteen ninety two to present, right, and

481
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we have George HW. Bush as the incumbent losing to

482
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Bill Clinton, and a lot of that was because of

483
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,599
the Gulf War. Right, there were other things as well.

484
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:51,720
The economy wasn't great, Ross pro Ran as a spoiler

485
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:59,119
got just shy of nineteen percent of the vote whatever,

486
00:28:59,559 --> 00:29:03,640
huge umbers of disaffected people stayed home. Nineteen ninety six,

487
00:29:03,839 --> 00:29:07,519
Bob Dolea lost to Bill Clinton despite having a riled

488
00:29:07,599 --> 00:29:10,960
up right wing coming off the tail of a GOP

489
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:15,559
landslide in the nineteen ninety four midterms. Right, he totally

490
00:29:16,039 --> 00:29:21,519
ate it because he was uninspiring, utterly conventional, stupid GOP platform.

491
00:29:21,759 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 8: Right.

492
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:30,839
Speaker 7: Two thousand, George W. Bush barely squeaked over the finish

493
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:36,359
line in Florida with like a U you know, Supreme Court,

494
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:41,680
you know, mandated governed process, and a lot of what

495
00:29:41,799 --> 00:29:44,440
he was talking about was we need to end the

496
00:29:44,519 --> 00:29:47,799
forever wars and the nation building, which is just war light,

497
00:29:49,119 --> 00:29:55,759
which the Democrats are doing. Okay, great, he wins, something happens,

498
00:29:56,079 --> 00:29:59,960
some people do some things, there's a war. He gets reelected.

499
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:04,680
So here's two GOP elections back to back. But again

500
00:30:04,759 --> 00:30:09,319
he barely squeaks by John Kerry with a few percentage points,

501
00:30:09,519 --> 00:30:13,359
like two or three percentage points. The economy was doing

502
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:19,160
well ish right before it tanked. Right then. Two thousand

503
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:25,000
and eight, John McCain, you know, Senator blood Feast loses

504
00:30:25,039 --> 00:30:31,160
in a landslide to Barack Houssein Obama, who fixes like

505
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,759
bad feelings and racism forever right. It worked out great,

506
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:39,079
huge numbers of disaffected people who said I'm not going

507
00:30:39,119 --> 00:30:43,119
to vote for John McCain or Barack Obama stayed home.

508
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:49,279
Twenty twelve, Mitt Romney loses to Barack Hussein Obama despite

509
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,519
again a riled upright wing on the tail of GOP

510
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:58,759
landslides and the twenty ten midterms, because Romney sucked he

511
00:30:58,799 --> 00:31:04,640
had a stupid GOP platform. Donald Trump descends the Golden escalators.

512
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:12,519
Any success the GOP has it in this period is

513
00:31:12,599 --> 00:31:17,920
coming off reactions to Democrats being in power, and then

514
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:24,000
it gets flubbed at the national level by not only

515
00:31:24,759 --> 00:31:28,119
the Congress, who has great rhetoric, but they get in

516
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,559
there and they do the usual crap. They don't really

517
00:31:30,559 --> 00:31:33,400
fight the way they say they're going to. They take

518
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:37,640
care of the big boys. Screw Americans is always the

519
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:41,960
theme on all these things. Immigration. They use some rhetoric,

520
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,200
but they don't actually do anything about what you know,

521
00:31:45,319 --> 00:31:50,599
Democrats are pushing. Democrats are importing not only Democrat voters,

522
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:54,240
but masses that can be used to stuff the ballot

523
00:31:54,279 --> 00:32:00,279
boxes by Democrats. Of these uninterested people who aren't actually votevoting.

524
00:32:00,599 --> 00:32:03,880
I want to remind you that illegal aliens don't really

525
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:09,319
vote that much. Ballots are stuffed by the Democrat Party

526
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:14,960
machines using these registered voters, these illegally registered voters, or

527
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:18,200
even if they pass laws saying it's legal whatever, they're

528
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:27,119
not legitimate votes. And then so Trump wins, big whoop,

529
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:32,640
the GOP fights him just as much as the Democratic Party,

530
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:36,000
and everything grinds to a fucking halt. So all the

531
00:32:36,039 --> 00:32:40,200
stuff that we need to do this was flight ninety

532
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:44,279
three election scenario, which, as you pointed out, like the

533
00:32:44,319 --> 00:32:49,960
plane is going to crash into something very important. At

534
00:32:50,039 --> 00:32:52,200
least we can wrestle it away and have it crash

535
00:32:52,279 --> 00:32:57,400
in a field and die heroes and save other people. No,

536
00:32:58,119 --> 00:33:00,680
can't do that. We got it. We got to keep

537
00:33:00,839 --> 00:33:04,640
the rhetoric, you know, respectable. We got to get invited

538
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:06,759
to the same Washington parties. We have to keep the

539
00:33:06,799 --> 00:33:11,039
grift going. I just want to point something out that

540
00:33:11,119 --> 00:33:18,920
took place in two thousand and nine through two thousand

541
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:24,200
and eight BC in China called the Chen Sheng and

542
00:33:24,279 --> 00:33:29,720
Wu Guang Uprising, and it was the first uprising against

543
00:33:29,799 --> 00:33:35,920
the Qin dynasty, and it was led by two generals.

544
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,359
They were army officers who were ordered to lead their

545
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:43,559
bands of commoner soldiers north to participate in the defense

546
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:49,720
of Yuyog. However, they were stopped halfway by flooding from

547
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:54,799
a severe rainstorm. The harsh laws of the Qin dynasty

548
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:59,119
mandated execution for those who showed up late for government jobs,

549
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,359
regardless of the nature of the delay or the cause.

550
00:34:03,079 --> 00:34:09,599
So instead they rebelled and butchered their superiors, because the

551
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,960
penalty would have been the same if they had just

552
00:34:13,119 --> 00:34:15,599
walked in and put their heads on the block, if

553
00:34:15,599 --> 00:34:19,960
they had just shown up and said sorry. It is very,

554
00:34:20,519 --> 00:34:28,239
very dangerous to spit in the face of your natural allies,

555
00:34:28,519 --> 00:34:33,000
who are your descendants, who are your people, to spit

556
00:34:33,079 --> 00:34:36,400
in their face, to prefer others, or just so that

557
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:42,000
you can continue your looting operation, because the punishment for

558
00:34:42,159 --> 00:34:47,440
them is death. It literally is death. The punishment for

559
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:52,199
your entire society, based on the path that we're on,

560
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:56,360
is death. Like you said, Brazil, Brazil is worse than death.

561
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:06,360
In Brazil, at the very least, you have legacy racisms

562
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:10,599
is which allow people to create these enclaves where they

563
00:35:10,599 --> 00:35:13,599
can actually blow away people who try to break in

564
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:18,559
and attack them in their homes, and you can't really

565
00:35:18,599 --> 00:35:21,119
do that in America. The FEDS will come down from

566
00:35:21,159 --> 00:35:27,440
helicopters and annihilate you if you try to, you know, basically,

567
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:36,719
reinstitute anything resembling freedom of association. And so continuing on

568
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:43,400
the path that we're on is death. So if are

569
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:50,239
you know, quote unquote moral superiors are constantly betraying the

570
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:54,480
supposed ideals that they preach to us and the supposed

571
00:35:54,519 --> 00:35:57,920
beliefs that they want to shove down our throats, they

572
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:02,480
constantly violate those flagrantly. We know it, and they know it,

573
00:36:02,519 --> 00:36:05,320
and they know that we know it. Why would we

574
00:36:05,559 --> 00:36:08,239
listen to them, why would we care what they say?

575
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:14,199
And why would we treat them any differently theoretically than

576
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:21,000
some Chinese generals three thousand years ago when when they

577
00:36:21,039 --> 00:36:23,480
were presented with the quandary that they faced.

578
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:30,159
Speaker 2: Well, and this is the the oft the often voked

579
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:34,440
in a rubicon, Caesar was put in a position where

580
00:36:34,519 --> 00:36:39,519
quite simply, it was do or dot. He could either

581
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,679
do something unspeakable right, you know, violate this kind of

582
00:36:42,679 --> 00:36:46,559
social contract, or he could be killed. Now, look, I'm

583
00:36:46,559 --> 00:36:50,840
not advising anyone person to do what Caesar did. But

584
00:36:51,599 --> 00:36:54,239
I am saying that you run into a problem. And

585
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:57,599
this is something that we saw, really. It floated often

586
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:03,440
during the Bike administration's response to COVID when they were saying,

587
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,199
you know, oh, if you don't you know, if you

588
00:37:06,199 --> 00:37:10,400
don't take a treatment, well you can't have a job anymore. Well,

589
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,119
all of a sudden, you've basically just said you know,

590
00:37:13,199 --> 00:37:18,159
you have You've told a bunch of people that they're

591
00:37:18,199 --> 00:37:20,360
in sort of a do or die situation. And I

592
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,480
just want to clarify I am not fed posting. The

593
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,599
slightest here not allaying is that you need to create

594
00:37:25,679 --> 00:37:29,639
a system where your citizens have buy in, where they

595
00:37:29,639 --> 00:37:32,559
have a reason for doing what you want them to do.

596
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:36,679
Because you have a problem with scale, You can't actually

597
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:40,079
force everyone all at once to do something. You need

598
00:37:40,119 --> 00:37:44,840
people to sort of self enforce to go by commonly

599
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:48,960
accepted rules because you can't have a policeman everywhere all

600
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,639
at once. Now, a certain dynamic that we see is

601
00:37:51,679 --> 00:37:53,639
that you know, in kind of these you know, Banana

602
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:56,679
republics or your African dictatorships, the answer is, well, I

603
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,639
don't really care what you do so long as I'm

604
00:37:59,679 --> 00:38:02,440
in charge. And maybe that's where we're headed. Maybe we

605
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,480
really are kind of speed running the transition to you know,

606
00:38:05,559 --> 00:38:11,880
third world shithole. But it's a massive loss of authority.

607
00:38:12,159 --> 00:38:14,320
You're no longer a real country anymore. You're kind of

608
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:18,519
this sort of garrison state. And what's especially galling to

609
00:38:18,599 --> 00:38:22,400
me is to watch something like a functional high trust society,

610
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:26,280
you know, where so many things work without direct government

611
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:31,159
intervention first being transitioned into this sort of managerial state

612
00:38:31,199 --> 00:38:36,440
where everything is effectively government dictat We've seen this in

613
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:39,000
the economy, right it sort of becomes a command economy,

614
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:47,119
but then again sort of willfully deconstructed into a non

615
00:38:47,159 --> 00:38:52,239
functional sort of third world system blackwater. You call it

616
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:55,519
a third world shithole. I call it Central Maine. Fair enough, man,

617
00:38:55,599 --> 00:38:59,599
I guess, or you know, another outpost of Somolia, as

618
00:38:59,639 --> 00:39:04,159
I've been rightly informed. But anyway, right, nonetheless, to me,

619
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,719
it's incredibly it's incredibly galling, you know, and people often

620
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,119
have accused Trump of sort of fishing in the rubicon.

621
00:39:10,519 --> 00:39:13,920
You're sticking your toe end maybe maybe not, oh maybe

622
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:18,880
maybe not. And what's especially irritating to me about that

623
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:21,559
is that the consequences for him personally are going to

624
00:39:21,559 --> 00:39:21,960
be dire.

625
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 13: You know the way your energy bill turns up and

626
00:39:25,039 --> 00:39:27,840
you start doing maths you haven't touched since the leaving start.

627
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,079
Speaker 5: Yeah, not with you know energy.

628
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,360
Speaker 13: With you know energy, you get monthly bill predictions, track

629
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,519
what you're using by the hour, and even see where

630
00:39:35,519 --> 00:39:36,400
you're overspending.

631
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:37,840
Speaker 6: It's the tumble dryer.

632
00:39:38,039 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 13: It's always the tumble dryer. With you know energy, it's

633
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,800
all in the app simple as So instead of guessing

634
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:47,159
you're actually managing your energy, you know energy, you just

635
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,599
know or OI only eighteen plus t's and s's a

636
00:39:49,639 --> 00:39:50,559
placy you know energy?

637
00:39:50,599 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 7: Dot I E.

638
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 14: Four doors, four belts. That was only three clicks? Where's

639
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,159
the last click? Someone somewhere in their seat belt. I

640
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:02,719
need to ask him to put it on? But what

641
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:04,360
if you have something? What if the others take off

642
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,639
their belts in solidarity? What if I don't ask them?

643
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:09,559
Speaker 7: However bad you.

644
00:40:09,519 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 15: Think asking will be, it's nothing compared to what could

645
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:12,840
happen if you don't.

646
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 14: Would you mind wearing your seat belt?

647
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 7: No problem?

648
00:40:15,039 --> 00:40:17,840
Speaker 15: Man Asking your mates to wear seat belt won't kill

649
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:21,559
you every time every trip, everybody belt up. A message

650
00:40:21,559 --> 00:40:23,320
from the Road Safety Authority.

651
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:26,519
Speaker 2: I happen to believe, you know, these sort of left

652
00:40:26,519 --> 00:40:28,880
wing figures who basically said, like he's gonna die in jail,

653
00:40:29,119 --> 00:40:29,880
we're gonna get it.

654
00:40:30,159 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 7: Yeah, we're gonna get everyone who had anything to do

655
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:36,199
with him as well as we're going to go after

656
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,119
the people who voted for him.

657
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Speaker 2: Well, and let's let's also acknowledge that this is being

658
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,880
applied now to you know, federal agents as well. Yeah,

659
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:45,199
this was sort of a story that's kind of come

660
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:49,159
and gone. But if you remember, you know, a group

661
00:40:49,199 --> 00:40:53,239
of six Democrats kind of god, I man, I hate

662
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:56,599
Republicans so much, but termed as the sort of seditious

663
00:40:56,599 --> 00:41:01,840
six is what they've been called, basically said, hey, remember

664
00:41:02,199 --> 00:41:08,239
military remember ice agents. Uh, not only do you have

665
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:13,960
no obligation to follow an unconstitutional rule, but guess what,

666
00:41:14,639 --> 00:41:18,400
you know, you might be criminally liable basically threatening. Yeah,

667
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,039
and when you combine that with you know, the reaction

668
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:25,320
to the you know, I guess semi successful assassination of

669
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:26,800
two National guardsmen in DC.

670
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:28,280
Speaker 7: Uh?

671
00:41:28,559 --> 00:41:33,119
Speaker 2: Is my microphone really that quiet? People are saying it is?

672
00:41:35,079 --> 00:41:38,159
Speaker 7: It sounds wonderful to me. Maybe everyone should turn their

673
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:41,400
speakers up. No, they're saying that louder than you. Whoa

674
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,719
is that two live? That's okay, I'll turn mine down,

675
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:47,719
all my speakers down?

676
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 2: Cool, all right, why just juice my volume? Uh?

677
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 7: Let me. People are saying it's good.

678
00:41:54,519 --> 00:41:58,199
Speaker 2: I hate audio issues. Test test all right, it looks

679
00:41:58,199 --> 00:42:05,920
good on the wait form. All right, anyway, we're uh, yeah,

680
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:07,960
this is the answer I was looking for. Your mic

681
00:42:08,039 --> 00:42:11,639
is fine. Everyone is just poor and stupid, completely agree, man,

682
00:42:12,079 --> 00:42:13,960
So true anyway.

683
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:15,760
Speaker 7: Oh shoot, but.

684
00:42:16,079 --> 00:42:18,800
Speaker 2: As we you know, as we look at that, it's

685
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,760
this sort of this sort of you know, mix of

686
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:25,079
on one hand, you know, agitation towards violence to their

687
00:42:25,119 --> 00:42:28,679
own people, right basically saying you know, oh you know

688
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:32,360
it is morally legitimate to resist you know, fascist orders.

689
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,320
Is kind of like whitewashing of you know, the the

690
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:39,360
assassins on uh, you know, Kirk, or the attempted assassination

691
00:42:39,639 --> 00:42:43,679
of U, s assassination Trump. We're saying like, oh, those

692
00:42:43,679 --> 00:42:46,159
aren't our guys, but you could understand why they did it,

693
00:42:46,639 --> 00:42:49,159
you know, that sort of stuff. The kind of you know,

694
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:52,239
armed trans armed LGBT movement that you and I have

695
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:55,239
sort of been documenting back and forth for a while.

696
00:42:55,559 --> 00:42:59,960
They're doing that while also informing the you know, duly

697
00:43:00,079 --> 00:43:04,119
elected leaders of this nation and their supporters, either in

698
00:43:04,199 --> 00:43:08,280
government or out, we will try you. Yeah, and the

699
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:12,239
sake of in the case of Hegseeth again, which I

700
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:15,000
can't believe I keep saying this, literally threatening him with

701
00:43:15,079 --> 00:43:18,039
war crimes tributals, you know, let alone the kind of

702
00:43:18,039 --> 00:43:20,719
soldiers involved in it. And again it's this sort of

703
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,599
the squeeze of basically you're creating a massive group of

704
00:43:23,639 --> 00:43:28,599
people who have very little to lose. And that's really

705
00:43:28,679 --> 00:43:31,800
dangerous because it's not as if there's even a person

706
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:34,079
to step in and say, okay, well you're my guys,

707
00:43:34,559 --> 00:43:37,239
like I will act on your behalf, because the nominal

708
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:41,719
leadership is apparently fully willing to bite the pillow and

709
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:43,400
take it basically say like, yeah, we don't really want

710
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:45,280
to actually do anything that would be too much work,

711
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:49,360
while the opposition is saying we are coming to get you. Yeah,

712
00:43:50,159 --> 00:43:54,639
We're coming for you. And to me, this is incredibly unstable,

713
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:58,320
incredibly unstable, and look man like you and I have

714
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:02,159
particularly radical politics. I get that, but ultimately we both

715
00:44:02,199 --> 00:44:06,480
live here. I don't really look forward to what seems

716
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,119
to be coming, which is, you know, this kind of

717
00:44:08,119 --> 00:44:12,639
explosion of political violence and criminality is very very unpleasant.

718
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,400
I mean, look, we've kind of teased it, and I

719
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:17,239
don't think we'll go through it directly, but you know,

720
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,400
you and I were sharing back and forth this article

721
00:44:20,039 --> 00:44:23,119
from Wired, which this article is very very cringe. You

722
00:44:23,159 --> 00:44:30,440
can find it if you want. It's written by Miniesha Krishnam.

723
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:35,599
Speaker 7: Very libertarian, left libertarian, coded.

724
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 2: Wink wing, the hard left shooters leading a gun culture revolution.

725
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:45,760
So for a little bit of context on this, this

726
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:48,880
is basically an investigation into the kind of two a

727
00:44:49,039 --> 00:44:53,840
for all space kind of surrounding two social media accounts,

728
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:59,159
one an account called tactical girlfriend uh not a girl,

729
00:44:59,679 --> 00:45:03,119
and then and also another kind of infamous figure carl Cassada,

730
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:08,280
who is a in a polyamorous relationship with a transwoman

731
00:45:08,639 --> 00:45:12,360
and a one time minister in the Church of Satan uh.

732
00:45:12,519 --> 00:45:14,320
And what I thought was interesting about this is a

733
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:19,000
couple of things. One the kind of broader framing of

734
00:45:19,079 --> 00:45:22,440
how these people are positioning themselves, the sort of like

735
00:45:22,519 --> 00:45:27,320
backwards victim narrative by which Charlie Kirk being shot by

736
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:30,599
a guy who sleeps with a transwoman is an assault

737
00:45:30,599 --> 00:45:33,000
on them personally. Yeah, Okay, I would have thought it

738
00:45:33,039 --> 00:45:35,400
was the guy who got shot, but whatever. But also

739
00:45:36,159 --> 00:45:39,440
the kind of what we've been talking about, which is

740
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:46,920
the the expectation and desire for political violence among these people. Carl,

741
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:48,920
I know you and I both have a lot of

742
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,119
you know, background on this, but did you want to

743
00:45:52,119 --> 00:45:55,039
introduce Carl Cassata just briefly to those who aren't familiar.

744
00:45:55,639 --> 00:46:03,679
Speaker 7: Carl Cassada is a bell who was involved in in

745
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:14,239
Range TV with Gun Jesus, who runs Forgotten Weapons, which

746
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:17,159
most of the time weapons aren't very forgotten.

747
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:23,559
Speaker 2: And for context on this these two figures, Ian McCollum

748
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:29,000
Forgotten Weapons has largely stayed completely and totally apolitical.

749
00:46:28,679 --> 00:46:31,320
Speaker 7: Which is why he slid away from Carl Cassata.

750
00:46:33,039 --> 00:46:35,159
Speaker 2: And this is a guy who you can kind of

751
00:46:35,199 --> 00:46:38,079
guess that he's probably a little more liberal than most,

752
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,559
but goes out of his way to never talk about it.

753
00:46:40,559 --> 00:46:43,840
It's very scholarly, and the two of them, like ten

754
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:48,960
years ago, had a side project together and effectively, this guy,

755
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:52,880
Carl Cassada, lost his marbles during Trump one point. Oh,

756
00:46:53,119 --> 00:46:54,760
for all the reasons you can imagine, the two of

757
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:57,760
them parted ways. Carl kept the YouTube channel which was

758
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:02,119
very large, and so he has enjoyed outsized influence by

759
00:47:02,199 --> 00:47:05,519
virtue of having someone else famous grow a YouTube channel

760
00:47:05,559 --> 00:47:09,400
for him. Yes, And additionally, in the kind of fallout

761
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:13,840
from this, uh Carl has and depending on who you ask,

762
00:47:14,039 --> 00:47:17,599
was either sort of in the area or heavily involved

763
00:47:17,639 --> 00:47:21,559
in popularizing a group of shooting matches called Brutality. It

764
00:47:21,599 --> 00:47:24,599
would be blank Brutality. They'd be themed and they're sort

765
00:47:24,639 --> 00:47:29,000
of like extreme versions of stage shooting. So whereas it

766
00:47:29,039 --> 00:47:31,480
like a USPSA or a DPA match, you'd kind of

767
00:47:31,559 --> 00:47:33,840
you know, run around a course, lean around some barriers

768
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:36,159
and shoot paper targets, this is sort of one step

769
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:39,159
up from that, so you know, there'd be a physical component,

770
00:47:39,519 --> 00:47:41,440
you know, a little bit more unpleasant. You might have

771
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:44,880
to you know, kind of combining a shooting match and

772
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:47,039
like a tough mutter event or you know those this

773
00:47:47,199 --> 00:47:50,360
sort of like races where there's an endurance component, there's

774
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:52,199
a and they're not particularly serious.

775
00:47:52,199 --> 00:47:54,119
Speaker 7: They're falling tedtle bells, toss.

776
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 2: So it's a way to, yeah, do practical shooting with

777
00:47:58,519 --> 00:47:59,960
a physical component through it.

778
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:03,679
Speaker 7: And stress stress induction is that is it's trying to

779
00:48:03,679 --> 00:48:06,679
simulate combat and that you get a super elevated heart

780
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:08,519
rate and stuff like that and try to shoot.

781
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 2: One, which sounds like a lot of fun. Never been

782
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:15,760
one makes sense. But what's interesting is because this guy

783
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:19,840
lost his mind and became a not became revealed himself

784
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:25,760
to be a almost actual Satanist, he started dragging this

785
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:29,239
more and more into left wing politics. Yeah right, you know,

786
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:33,199
talking constantly about different instances when you know base minorities

787
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:36,639
have used guns against the KKK, talking about how uh,

788
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:39,559
you know, one of the cooks in Colonel Custer's cavalry

789
00:48:39,559 --> 00:48:42,360
regiment was trans all this kind of stuff, and so

790
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:49,039
has been doing particularly events where these are marketed to

791
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:53,880
the LGBTQ community, which means it is the exact same

792
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,199
crop of autistic men, just in dresses that would be

793
00:48:56,239 --> 00:49:00,480
in a normal shooting competition anyway. So this order from

794
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:03,280
Wired goes in to sort of talk to, you know,

795
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:06,519
the left wing Second Amendment community, like what do they think?

796
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,400
And it's not a very good article. It's sort of

797
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:13,719
fumbled multiple times because first, you know, this was written

798
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,679
during the you know, the Kirk assassination, so that takes

799
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:19,280
up a large portion of it. But also because you know,

800
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:21,679
this person who I can't tell their gender from their name,

801
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:26,960
Star Wars name basically went to this event and then

802
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,639
there was you know, dry grass caught on fire, so

803
00:49:29,639 --> 00:49:31,320
they had to call it. You know, it just wasn't

804
00:49:31,639 --> 00:49:33,800
wasn't safe due to weather conditions or whatever. So it

805
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:35,800
was really kind of a pointless article. And it's not

806
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:37,800
a very good article. I'm not saying you should read it.

807
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:40,440
But what it is interesting for is to kind of

808
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:45,280
get a view into the trantiss aries right the armed

809
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:50,159
transgender lunatics. There's a number of different groups associated with it,

810
00:49:50,199 --> 00:49:54,800
the SRA, Socialist Rifle Association, the John Brown Gun Club, others.

811
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:58,400
But what's interesting to me is the language with which

812
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:02,320
they are speaking. And Carl, I'll throw it to you

813
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:04,440
because I've been talking too much. How would you describe

814
00:50:05,039 --> 00:50:05,920
the information from.

815
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:14,079
Speaker 7: This It it's very victim termed like. But also they're

816
00:50:14,079 --> 00:50:16,760
they're pushing this like this is the new normal and

817
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:21,840
we have to embrace these obvious violent lunatics and this

818
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:26,840
is this is the righteous expression of like Second Amendment,

819
00:50:27,519 --> 00:50:30,440
which is we you know, these are the people who

820
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:35,039
are going to be out there slugging away against you know,

821
00:50:35,119 --> 00:50:38,400
the evil right wing for us and we should get

822
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:42,519
behind them because it's great. Uh, it's glowing, turned like

823
00:50:42,599 --> 00:50:45,800
the language is glowing. We can tell by the name,

824
00:50:46,199 --> 00:50:49,480
you know, if this isn't if the author isn't a

825
00:50:49,559 --> 00:50:52,960
trannissary who's transracial, which is something that happens a lot

826
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:58,440
where they give themselves names from far away lands to

827
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:02,639
you know, further de white assize themselves, which is what

828
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:04,599
this is all about. I'm one of the good ones.

829
00:51:04,599 --> 00:51:10,599
I'm not a bad white. It's it's this glowing language

830
00:51:10,599 --> 00:51:14,800
preparing the battle space. And again this is wired. Wired

831
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:24,840
is a libertarian slash techie left right, and it's saying

832
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:27,360
that this is to the two A is for everyone.

833
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:30,840
You know, YadA, YadA, YadA. They're preparing the battle space

834
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:32,960
so that you can be shot by one of these

835
00:51:33,039 --> 00:51:36,079
lunatic Trannis series. That's the whole point of all this,

836
00:51:36,639 --> 00:51:42,000
that this is normal, and it's also there's this other

837
00:51:42,079 --> 00:51:43,960
element to it. And I always go back to like

838
00:51:44,039 --> 00:51:48,320
Spanish Civil War, you know, as a topic, just because

839
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:53,079
it's my wheelhouse at this point in life. But it's

840
00:51:53,079 --> 00:51:58,280
also illustrative, which is that the when you look at Spain,

841
00:51:59,199 --> 00:52:04,480
there was the kind of normal, normal leftists who aren't

842
00:52:05,559 --> 00:52:10,880
like bloodthirsty who are like I just want these outcomes

843
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:12,840
and I want the government to be like this, and

844
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:16,280
I don't want the bad things to happen. And they

845
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:21,440
were instantly shoved to the side by the lunatics. Because

846
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:26,159
in when bullets are flying both ways, people who are

847
00:52:26,199 --> 00:52:29,320
actually going to be firing them are the ones who

848
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:34,360
climb to the top. So insane anarchists.

849
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:39,320
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850
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:42,039
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851
00:52:42,119 --> 00:52:44,960
or podcasts anymore like normal people because that dreadful sound

852
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:47,199
is ringing in my head day and night. Woo woo woo.

853
00:52:47,679 --> 00:52:50,000
With their damn fifteen seconds response time.

854
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:51,119
Speaker 2: I'd never get away with us.

855
00:52:51,119 --> 00:52:54,119
Speaker 16: Plus they're twenty four to seven monitoring the app come

856
00:52:54,159 --> 00:52:57,800
emotion detectors, wireless video door bell. I might never be

857
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:00,760
able to burgle again. Get the alarm Burglar's Fear for

858
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859
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860
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861
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862
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863
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864
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865
00:53:23,159 --> 00:53:26,039
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866
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867
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:30,719
Speaker 6: We know what locals want because we're local, like you.

868
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:34,840
Speaker 17: Enjoy alcohol responsibly offers end seventh of December in participating

869
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:36,039
stores while stocks last.

870
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:42,599
Speaker 7: Most importantly, Soviet backed communists, who were a very small

871
00:53:42,679 --> 00:53:47,880
faction initially took over the whole thing because they were

872
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:51,760
the ones who had the resources and were the most extreme.

873
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:56,599
And this is battlespy space preparation for that kind of

874
00:53:56,920 --> 00:54:00,480
a situation, like transparently. So when you read the language

875
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:02,360
about it, well one.

876
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:06,079
Speaker 2: Hundred right, it is very much, uh, you know, a whitewashing,

877
00:54:06,519 --> 00:54:10,760
a desire to kind of turn armed lunatics into you know,

878
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:13,760
kind of chic edgy icons. You see that with this

879
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:18,280
technical girlfriend figure there, there's like genuinely gushing pros talking

880
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:19,280
about how how.

881
00:54:19,159 --> 00:54:23,039
Speaker 7: Brave and beautiful striking. Yeah, I mean it's it's a

882
00:54:23,119 --> 00:54:24,400
dude with I makeup.

883
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:29,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you notice, by the way, uh, like many others,

884
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:31,239
always covers the lower half of his face.

885
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:32,679
Speaker 7: Yes, in.

886
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:35,079
Speaker 2: Common theme there.

887
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:35,599
Speaker 7: Ah.

888
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:38,840
Speaker 2: But I think that when we combine all of this,

889
00:54:39,639 --> 00:54:43,360
you get this picture of what is to come and

890
00:54:43,519 --> 00:54:46,960
is not particularly rosy. You get the direct threats that

891
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:50,639
like we were coming for you, We are going to

892
00:54:50,679 --> 00:54:52,719
you know, charge you with crimes, We are going to

893
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:56,440
go after you know, podcasters, social media figures. Obviously the

894
00:54:56,760 --> 00:55:00,679
real victims of this. Podcasters are the really the point

895
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:04,800
of society is to predict a podcaster, but you soldiers,

896
00:55:05,199 --> 00:55:10,480
government agents, politicians, and at the same time kind of

897
00:55:10,519 --> 00:55:15,400
whitewashing both the same sort of lunatics who are in

898
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:18,480
the process of waging kind of a low level domestic

899
00:55:18,559 --> 00:55:23,360
terror campaign, whitewashing them and also giving them time to

900
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:26,519
say like, oh, we expect there to be sort of

901
00:55:26,639 --> 00:55:29,360
an analogous situation to the years of lead. That's what

902
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:31,480
we think is coming. And of course it's all cast

903
00:55:31,519 --> 00:55:36,000
in victim narrative casts. Oh Tucker is going to get me. Oh,

904
00:55:36,199 --> 00:55:38,079
you know, Laura Loomer is going to get me, which is,

905
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:40,639
to be fair, something I would be terrified of. That

906
00:55:40,679 --> 00:55:44,960
woman looks like a escape science experiment, so reasonable fear

907
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:47,800
in that one instance. But nonetheless, that is what is

908
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:51,039
being seated, the idea that you know, these sort of

909
00:55:51,039 --> 00:55:54,199
figures are doing a good and laudable thing, and.

910
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:57,519
Speaker 7: That was implicitly said for the listeners out there. They

911
00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:03,679
specifically invoked the years of lead. Uh. Taxical girlfriend specifically

912
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:05,159
cited that.

913
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:13,280
Speaker 2: And and what's so, I guess kind of yes, yeah,

914
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:15,679
is that they they do kind of close ups on

915
00:56:16,079 --> 00:56:19,679
their gear one uh, for anyone interested in tactical gear.

916
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:23,679
Patches are Reddit and cringe. Don't lease them, especially not

917
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:27,000
to the degree done in this one. But you see

918
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:29,360
these kind of you know, typical you know, left wing

919
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:31,599
slogans but kind of turned up an not except for blood.

920
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:35,199
Like yeah, you'll have like arm or like protect trans

921
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:38,320
kits with the trans flag and M four on it. Okay,

922
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:40,480
well that's a slightly edgier version of the you know,

923
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:43,840
the stiletto image something you see elsewhere. But also you'll

924
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:47,280
have something as similar as like basically and let me

925
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:49,840
get the exact quote here. Yes, so it's a picture

926
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:53,000
of a skull with a knife through it. Death to

927
00:56:53,079 --> 00:56:56,199
all who stand in the way of freedom for queer people.

928
00:56:56,639 --> 00:57:01,119
Several things. One leftist meme, stereotype, undef it's way too

929
00:57:01,159 --> 00:57:03,719
many words to put on a piece of political propaganda.

930
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:05,559
It's it's like this long, you can't read the text.

931
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:12,360
But also, uh, what do you think that means? Bud? Yeah, literally,

932
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:14,519
just after talking about the assassination of Kirk, it's like,

933
00:57:14,559 --> 00:57:16,599
oh yeah, death to people who stand in the way

934
00:57:16,599 --> 00:57:20,000
of queer liberation. And earlier they mentioned, of course, the

935
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:24,199
stats that not only was neither assassin related to the

936
00:57:24,199 --> 00:57:28,800
trans community. We know that that is false. Just look

937
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:33,400
at the relationship that Tyler Robinson was in. Sorry, the

938
00:57:33,559 --> 00:57:36,079
was Tyler Robinson the Kirk shooter? I was get the

939
00:57:36,159 --> 00:57:36,519
mixed up.

940
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:39,639
Speaker 7: I'm pretty sure the Kirk shooter. Yes, yes, yes, I.

941
00:57:39,639 --> 00:57:43,719
Speaker 2: Was get him and Crooks backwards. Point is the we

942
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:46,360
know that's not correct, correct, But when you combine that

943
00:57:46,639 --> 00:57:49,159
with you know, basically talking about the oh, the the

944
00:57:49,199 --> 00:57:51,920
deep irony you know, and this is something they mentioned

945
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:54,440
something you'll hear elsewhere, the deep irony of Kirk talking

946
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:56,639
about guns and then he's shot with a gun. Isn't

947
00:57:56,639 --> 00:57:58,840
that Isn't that funny? Isn't that laughable? It's like, well,

948
00:57:59,119 --> 00:58:02,119
I mean, I can respect the poetic irony here, but

949
00:58:02,159 --> 00:58:06,840
also man like, you do realize what's happening, You do

950
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:10,159
realize what this results in, like just rampant political assassination.

951
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:15,239
And again, while this is just being whitewashed, it's genuinely

952
00:58:17,199 --> 00:58:19,159
I don't want to say scary. I'm not quaking in

953
00:58:19,199 --> 00:58:22,320
my boots, but to me, the prognosis is very clear

954
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:26,000
that the nominal right in America has made it clear

955
00:58:26,039 --> 00:58:28,880
that they are not a serious political force, that they

956
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:32,639
are abandoning their hope for the future. They are abandoning

957
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:36,880
any sort of possibility of forming a coalition going forward.

958
00:58:37,079 --> 00:58:39,400
They just discarded that as an option. They do not care.

959
00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:45,320
They're creating a circumstance for increased political radicalization on both sides,

960
00:58:45,559 --> 00:58:48,920
while their enemies are not only stoking the flames of

961
00:58:49,039 --> 00:58:52,119
radicalization but making it clear we are coming for you,

962
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:57,199
we are going to get you. And so in my mind,

963
00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:00,000
this has just really put a nail in the coffin

964
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:04,079
of the conservative movement right. Clearly, they are not a

965
00:59:04,119 --> 00:59:07,800
real political party. And we all knew this, right and

966
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:10,000
I understand that people have been you know, posting the

967
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:12,360
fel for it again, you know, posting the you know,

968
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:17,199
you're an idiot forever trying a couple of things. One,

969
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:22,320
Pessimists are right, Optimists make money. You got to take

970
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:24,559
a swing every once in a while, right, especially when

971
00:59:24,559 --> 00:59:27,679
you were presented with a series of we would say,

972
00:59:27,679 --> 00:59:33,559
in the virgin community, not twenties, right, the crazy once,

973
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:39,079
you know, incredibly uncommon windfall, Like, oh great, wow, our

974
00:59:39,119 --> 00:59:42,760
guy has this iconic image, you know, survive in the assassination.

975
00:59:43,559 --> 00:59:46,039
Let's see what we can do with that. Oh he's

976
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:50,440
doing things, saying things that would actually produce meaningful results. Oh,

977
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:53,320
he's got guys behind him. Oh not only that, you know,

978
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:56,679
we have this dramatic political assassination. So look, it was

979
00:59:56,719 --> 00:59:59,320
sort of a perfect storm of can we reform this

980
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:03,280
within the system? Everything went right that should have gone right,

981
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:07,679
and what happened nothing. This is not a real political part.

982
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:11,000
It's not a real political movements. A group of losers,

983
01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:14,079
A group of losers who are much more interested in

984
01:00:14,199 --> 01:00:17,639
their gibs right where that is personally or to their

985
01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:21,079
you know, clients across the ocean, than they are actually

986
01:00:21,239 --> 01:00:26,239
one preserving or representing any sort of country whatsoever, or

987
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:31,199
seemingly securing their own existence, avoiding jail time, not being

988
01:00:31,239 --> 01:00:36,280
shot by insane sexual degenerates. It's baffling, like genuinely baffling,

989
01:00:36,639 --> 01:00:39,360
you know, It's sort of like people are sort of

990
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:41,039
shocked when they learned that, you know, there are some

991
01:00:41,159 --> 01:00:43,679
animals that are quite literally too stupid to save themselves,

992
01:00:44,199 --> 01:00:46,320
right like if you, you know, turn a sheep over

993
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:47,840
and sand. I don't know if it's true or not.

994
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:50,400
I've heard it repeated. It just can't get up. It'll

995
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:54,239
starve to death. It is so unsuited for that situation,

996
01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:56,639
will die. And to me, that is what the Republican

997
01:00:56,639 --> 01:01:00,519
Party is. A genuine genetic dead end, an animal the dodo,

998
01:01:00,679 --> 01:01:04,320
literally too stupid to live outside of the exact environment

999
01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:07,599
for which it was born. And yeah, I have no

1000
01:01:07,719 --> 01:01:09,199
sympathy for these people at all.

1001
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:14,840
Speaker 7: Can I point something out here real quick? So Soligoal

1002
01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:20,880
commented in chat. Wired is owned by Conde Nast, which

1003
01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:25,800
also owns Reddit. Conde Nast also owns Vogue, The New Yorker, GQ, Glamour,

1004
01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:30,119
Architectural Digest, Vanity, Fair, Bon Appetite, and Pitchfork. And then

1005
01:01:30,239 --> 01:01:33,079
on top of that, who owns Conde Nast, Like it's

1006
01:01:33,119 --> 01:01:36,840
all these massive media conglomerates there's a lot of power

1007
01:01:37,519 --> 01:01:43,880
behind this piece being put out. You mentioned Reddit, who

1008
01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:49,719
was the most powerful moderator on Reddit, Like, it's basically

1009
01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:56,360
completely proven at this point, just laying Maxwell, It's true.

1010
01:01:56,360 --> 01:02:00,280
It's weird, Yeah, Maxwell Hill, it.

1011
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:03,159
Speaker 2: Is just a random, you know, factoid. Isn't that funny?

1012
01:02:03,639 --> 01:02:07,000
Speaker 7: Isn't it funny time? Hm? It's gonna just gonna stroke

1013
01:02:07,079 --> 01:02:10,480
my chin? What a What a wacky coincidence? What a

1014
01:02:10,519 --> 01:02:16,079
wacky coincidence? No, it's fascinating. And the I think the

1015
01:02:16,159 --> 01:02:19,159
other side of this is is so so Jay. You've

1016
01:02:19,199 --> 01:02:24,920
been talking about the the the parasites who are like

1017
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:28,760
the the good boys within the GOP, like we could say,

1018
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:32,679
who are doing doing the thing, you know, to to

1019
01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:36,440
get there, to get their gibbs. The other side of

1020
01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:43,360
it are the the raving Zionists who think that they're

1021
01:02:43,639 --> 01:02:46,360
that they're a complicent, that this can be done, that

1022
01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:51,280
they can wrestle back the party UH into their total

1023
01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:56,320
control while keeping it relevant. And the most important thing

1024
01:02:56,519 --> 01:03:01,320
to understand there is that they can't. That they will

1025
01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:04,280
just be a not only a party of losers, but

1026
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:07,119
they will lose so badly that it will have been

1027
01:03:07,159 --> 01:03:12,960
a totally wasted investment on the part of the let's say,

1028
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:18,199
advocates for the most specialist Middle Eastern democracy ever and

1029
01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:23,800
only Middle Eastern democracy, right, so it's it can be

1030
01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:28,519
this great. So they they wrestle back ownership of the

1031
01:03:28,559 --> 01:03:31,400
party and none of the stuff ever comes out again,

1032
01:03:31,639 --> 01:03:35,519
right like the geob let's say, the GOP becomes totally

1033
01:03:35,559 --> 01:03:43,320
cut them again. Well, there goes any relevance in elections

1034
01:03:43,679 --> 01:03:48,239
ever again, like totally gone. And they've already, like I've

1035
01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:53,280
pointed out, they've already been so outed as this like

1036
01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:56,840
controlled opposition party for so long that the only thing

1037
01:03:56,880 --> 01:04:01,519
that got them victory again after years, you know, of

1038
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:05,920
straight losing, you know, with thirty five years of only

1039
01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:11,320
partial success, was Donald Trump, who came in with a

1040
01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:14,519
totally different platform that people actually wanted, where all these

1041
01:04:14,559 --> 01:04:18,960
disaffected regular Americans supported him. And yes, there are all

1042
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:23,519
these other people who came in to the coalition. You know,

1043
01:04:23,559 --> 01:04:25,760
there's all the people who are like the left left

1044
01:04:25,880 --> 01:04:30,559
me or you know, the you know, the based Florida

1045
01:04:30,719 --> 01:04:39,360
Cubans who both poor Donald Trump, Donald Trump and you

1046
01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:42,079
know and all that. Yeah, sure, but his real base

1047
01:04:42,159 --> 01:04:49,039
is white Americans who stopped voting and so all the

1048
01:04:49,079 --> 01:04:52,960
people who's tummy's hurt by, you know, the stuff that

1049
01:04:53,079 --> 01:04:57,960
needs to be done so that we don't get shot

1050
01:04:58,000 --> 01:04:59,880
in the back of the head and thrown into my

1051
01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:04,159
graves or just like raped for the rest of time

1052
01:05:04,239 --> 01:05:08,079
and your grandchildren raped for the rest of time. The

1053
01:05:08,119 --> 01:05:11,400
only thing that you can do is resist that with

1054
01:05:11,559 --> 01:05:17,480
state power, lawfully enforcing existing laws and getting rid of

1055
01:05:17,519 --> 01:05:21,920
the people that are enabling the stuff or doing this stuff,

1056
01:05:22,119 --> 01:05:23,920
which I still feel like we're going to see a

1057
01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:27,840
decent amount of that, Like there's a lot of wheels

1058
01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:30,480
that are in motion at this point where again it's

1059
01:05:30,519 --> 01:05:33,639
not going to be everything, of course not, but these

1060
01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:37,360
small chunks where we're going to see this improvement. And

1061
01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:40,559
then what that'll allow us to do is to use

1062
01:05:40,639 --> 01:05:45,760
that in our rhetoric or to orient our own lives.

1063
01:05:47,760 --> 01:05:50,639
Speaker 4: As page and see everything when we're flapping around up.

1064
01:05:50,519 --> 01:05:52,760
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1065
01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:57,719
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1066
01:05:57,719 --> 01:06:01,559
trigger asthma and lead to seriously So if you're going

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to light a fire in your home, make sure to

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01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:07,800
use low smoke fuel. Oh and never wing at burning rubbish.

1069
01:06:08,519 --> 01:06:10,599
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1070
01:06:11,039 --> 01:06:13,480
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1071
01:06:13,519 --> 01:06:15,920
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1072
01:06:16,119 --> 01:06:17,480
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Speaker 7: C three dot I E in a better fashion and

1080
01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:44,159
orient the alternatives that we are creating right because we're

1081
01:06:44,159 --> 01:06:47,639
not just sitting around complaining online and saying ha ha,

1082
01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:50,760
you lose again like so many people out there. Those

1083
01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:54,639
people are losers. Those people are worthless and they have

1084
01:06:54,719 --> 01:06:59,800
no future. We have to take advantage of the opportunities

1085
01:06:59,800 --> 01:07:02,480
that were given to create something different.

1086
01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:07,639
Speaker 2: So I realized this is probably the wrong time to

1087
01:07:07,639 --> 01:07:10,440
bring this up because we are in an hour. But

1088
01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:14,320
I get sent a really interesting podcast by friend of

1089
01:07:14,360 --> 01:07:17,199
the show, Stormy Waters. So I've never listened to this

1090
01:07:17,239 --> 01:07:19,519
podcast before. I know nothing about it. It was a

1091
01:07:19,559 --> 01:07:25,199
singularly good episode, so it is TFTC a Bitcoin Podcast,

1092
01:07:25,320 --> 01:07:30,320
Episode six eighty eight with Mark Mitchell, who I believe

1093
01:07:30,519 --> 01:07:35,519
runs Resmusen recommend it. It's really fascinating because he basically

1094
01:07:35,559 --> 01:07:38,519
offers the same analysis you and I have, talking about

1095
01:07:38,519 --> 01:07:42,440
the problems facing younger voters and the massive issue that

1096
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:48,039
this creates for the Republican Party, and he recounts meeting

1097
01:07:48,079 --> 01:07:50,760
with the President to tell him about this, and it's interesting,

1098
01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:53,000
he basically said. The only person who even kind of

1099
01:07:53,039 --> 01:07:56,880
gets that is JD. Van's interesting if you combine this

1100
01:07:57,039 --> 01:08:01,199
with the analysis that Stormy and I kind of came

1101
01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:03,280
up with, you know, as regards the kind of woke

1102
01:08:03,360 --> 01:08:05,920
right smear right it seems to be directed at Vance,

1103
01:08:06,719 --> 01:08:09,320
who knows. Again, not the biggest fan of him personally,

1104
01:08:09,360 --> 01:08:12,159
but it's interesting how many people I hate are interested

1105
01:08:12,159 --> 01:08:15,719
and get getting rid of him anyway. But to get

1106
01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:18,039
back to it, one of the things he talks about,

1107
01:08:18,039 --> 01:08:20,800
because he is a Polster, is some really interesting findings

1108
01:08:21,720 --> 01:08:26,800
among particularly younger voters, which his younger conservatives are extremely

1109
01:08:27,319 --> 01:08:33,640
comfortable with one basically a dictator. Effectively, he floated this,

1110
01:08:33,720 --> 01:08:37,560
He's like, how comfortable would you be with an unaccountable

1111
01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:42,039
AI running the system? Okay, which we understand what that

1112
01:08:42,039 --> 01:08:45,159
actually needs right, just unaccountable authority, you know, a top

1113
01:08:45,199 --> 01:08:49,439
down directive. And the demographic that supports this the most

1114
01:08:49,479 --> 01:08:51,359
by a large margin. It's like, I think it's like

1115
01:08:51,359 --> 01:08:53,760
plus twenty years plus thirty it's a significant amount. Is

1116
01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:58,640
conservatives under forty interesting other things that conservative under forties

1117
01:08:58,680 --> 01:09:05,319
talk about is apparently, according to him, very comfortable discarding

1118
01:09:05,359 --> 01:09:08,479
the kind of shibboleths of you know, liberal economics, right,

1119
01:09:08,600 --> 01:09:13,279
nationalizing industry, you know, banning things like AI. Basically you know,

1120
01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:15,760
which is I guess deeply ironic given other findings. But

1121
01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:18,479
we've got to understand that the question isn't necessarily what's

1122
01:09:18,479 --> 01:09:21,960
important here, it's what it reveals, uh, basically saying those

1123
01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:26,520
people have broken from libertarian economics. And he puts forth

1124
01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:29,760
the argument effectively that you know, when when people are

1125
01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:32,800
all freaked out about you know, people you know, voting

1126
01:09:32,840 --> 01:09:36,760
for universal basic income or this kind of attitude of whatever,

1127
01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:41,199
I don't care, just let me afford a house, let

1128
01:09:41,199 --> 01:09:44,880
me afford healthcare, whatever that is, just fix it. His

1129
01:09:45,039 --> 01:09:47,720
argument is that that is effectively the same thing on

1130
01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:50,640
both the right and the left that Mamdani voters are

1131
01:09:51,159 --> 01:09:54,039
likely And we understand that, you know, there's multiple different

1132
01:09:54,079 --> 01:09:56,680
parties supporting Mumdani, but a large portion of it was

1133
01:09:56,720 --> 01:10:01,560
these kind of you know, young progressive white people, is

1134
01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:04,079
effectively a desire to solve it. Right, this has become

1135
01:10:04,119 --> 01:10:07,840
a Gordian knot, and there's this massive pent up desire

1136
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:12,479
for solutions. And what's so aggravating, and I've said that

1137
01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:14,399
phrase one hundred times of this episode has got stuck

1138
01:10:14,439 --> 01:10:19,720
in my brain for whatever reason, is that that the

1139
01:10:20,479 --> 01:10:27,239
offering in some semblance of solutions does not require breaking

1140
01:10:27,319 --> 01:10:30,039
the Republican Party, does not require breaking the system. It

1141
01:10:30,079 --> 01:10:34,640
is technically possible to reform this, but anyone in charge

1142
01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:38,720
seems so unwilling to do anything other than enrich themselves

1143
01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:41,880
in the short term at their own let's not even

1144
01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:45,760
say long term, medium term detriment, like what three years,

1145
01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:48,520
It's not that long of a time frame before consequence

1146
01:10:48,520 --> 01:10:51,760
has become real. It was on one hand sort of

1147
01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:54,319
black pilling, right that this movement people in charge but

1148
01:10:54,359 --> 01:10:57,319
are completely and totally incompetent. But also interesting from the

1149
01:10:57,359 --> 01:10:59,840
perspective of like, oh like, there are a large number

1150
01:10:59,880 --> 01:11:05,359
of very discontented people who are okay with relatively radical solutions, right,

1151
01:11:05,359 --> 01:11:07,800
who are okay with kind of discarding you know, the

1152
01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:09,840
rule of law like that was one of the other things,

1153
01:11:09,840 --> 01:11:14,199
like when he asked young people, Uh, he asked young

1154
01:11:14,199 --> 01:11:17,560
people basically like, well, how would you feel about, you know,

1155
01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:21,279
throwing judges in jail? How would you feel about, you know,

1156
01:11:21,359 --> 01:11:24,760
deporting people like you know Hamdani or people like Johanomar

1157
01:11:25,079 --> 01:11:32,880
realize PNG. Yeah, but those again were the highest rates

1158
01:11:32,880 --> 01:11:36,520
of support. These people are interested in something you know, radical,

1159
01:11:36,880 --> 01:11:39,359
because I think it's important to say. I think when

1160
01:11:39,359 --> 01:11:43,159
this this era is written about, people will not view

1161
01:11:44,159 --> 01:11:48,239
current sort of economic woes as particularly separate from eight

1162
01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:51,319
that this is largely the same crisis and has been

1163
01:11:51,439 --> 01:11:54,479
sort of a slow boiling crisis the whole time, with

1164
01:11:54,600 --> 01:11:58,880
kind of different punctuations, And to me, I see that

1165
01:11:58,920 --> 01:12:04,560
as being accurate. The system majorly broke thirteen years ago,

1166
01:12:05,039 --> 01:12:07,079
and we haven't really found a way to fix it.

1167
01:12:07,319 --> 01:12:10,359
There were some band aids with certain things that Obama did,

1168
01:12:10,760 --> 01:12:13,399
you know, certain things that Trump did, but it's not working.

1169
01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:16,399
It's really not working, and that is going to become

1170
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a massive liability for someone and it doesn't necessarily have

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to be the Republican Party. But they seemingly are are

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setting up for it, Max Pain. It was episode six

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01:12:26,760 --> 01:12:30,760
eighty eight of that podcast. The guy's name is Mark Mitchell,

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so check that out. I thought it was pretty interesting.

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But Carl, we are fast coming up on time. If

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anyone wants to send their questions or comments via super chat,

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will be happy to address them. But before we do that,

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I'll let you respond to that, Carl.

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Speaker 7: No think. I think there are people that are getting this,

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that they're coming around to actually thinking about it, and

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a lot of thought leaders have been in advance. We

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saw a bunch of Silicon Valley guys who who are

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you know, a little more normal ish. I mean, they're

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still you know, billionaire titans and stuff, but they've been

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talking about this stuff very in very practical terms. Even

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twenty years ago, there was a lot of talk about

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economic populism and pitchforks being on the horizon in a

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lot of a lot of environments, and I think, you know,

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it's been interesting to see how it's played out and

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how honest people are being about it. You know, it

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01:13:37,399 --> 01:13:42,880
gets it gets very party in party political oriented. To

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use a Thomisism conjugation, but people just don't know what

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to do or what to think. And I think a

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lot of people are realizing, you know, what they're dealing

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with at this point in time. But again, you know,

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the the key point being is the power players are

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stuck in the mud, and it becomes impossible to address

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it honestly, Like you can't talk honestly about politics anymore.

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Like the totally normal thing that happened in twenty twenty

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and took place basically until like through some point in

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twenty I want to say, some point after October seven,

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twenty twenty three. Right, everything was totally normal and was

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a perfect expression, the perfect platonic expression of our democracy.

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And now all these people have been reacting to it

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as they kind of scramble for their own for their

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own interests and benefit. And the ones who are being

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01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:46,720
honest about it and are able to speak openly and

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candidly about it are doing much better and they have

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a path to the future, and the ones that are

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suppressing it have no future and are throwing away the

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future of our country and our society and like quite

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possibly humanity at this point. I mean, I think long term,

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you know, we're gonna we're gonna win, but they're endangering

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they're endangering humanity by by supporting the path that the

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march to Brazil, the Brazilification of everything, and uh, fortunately

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a lot of people are starting to speak out, even

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though like the big players are generally pretending, you know,

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that everything is the house that is on fire as

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they sit at the table a dog and a hat

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say this is fine.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is uh incredibly aggravating. So one thing I

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will say, Uh, I'm just gonna chill just shamelessly here

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unrelated almost anything we talk about. I did a very

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rare effort post long article.

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Speaker 7: It's very good.

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Speaker 1: Oh uh.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, so if you want to go over to my substack,

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read an article I wrote called James Lindsay's no good,

1229
01:16:04,960 --> 01:16:08,680
very bad article. They could be honest, kind of unrelated

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really to what we talked about, but it is sort

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of a takedown of the reaction towards growing right wing

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youth radicalism, which is an argument where James Lindsay basically

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says you are completely and totally insane if you disagree

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with me. And also Schmid's friend enemy distinction is illegitimate.

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It slightly abbreviated. That's basically his argument. I think it

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will be interesting to see the jockeying for the last

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scraps of relevance from kind of conservative bank. I think

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they have fully and totally lost the base and they

1239
01:16:46,439 --> 01:16:50,159
are going to get shellacked going forward. But nonetheless, characters

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like Lindsay and a few others seem to be sort

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of auditioning for you know, roles as kind of the

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you know, the captain of the Titanic right, looking for

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01:16:58,520 --> 01:17:01,520
a role as a gatekeeper of you know, ever diminishing

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sort of intellectual playground. I think that will continue, I think,

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and this is something that Stormy and I put forward.

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But my guess is the way that this is going

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to be spun is we have lost in twenty twenty

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eight or we have lost in twenty twenty six because

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of our radical wink. And what we really need to

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01:17:22,159 --> 01:17:25,800
do is refocus on being what we always were, which

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is a war mongering party of corporate horrors. Yeah, and

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01:17:30,520 --> 01:17:34,199
that's the real core Republican message. And if you disagree

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with that, you're the reason we lost. So we need

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to cancel. We need to get you out. Chronicles Magazine

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Paul godfre each piece which dropped yesterday. It was called

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Preparation for a Purge.

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Speaker 7: Quite good.

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Speaker 2: You know someone who lived through, you know, the first

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round of neocon purging. I recommend reading that if you

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want to dig more into it. But effectively, not only

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are we supposed to if we do everythingere supposed to

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foot the bill going to be blamed for their own incompetence.

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I think that that is really the kind of goal

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behind the woke right stuff, is to create a specter

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01:18:09,279 --> 01:18:11,920
of a fall guy for their own incompetent so we

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don't actually have to don't actually have to, you know,

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01:18:15,880 --> 01:18:19,720
bearing responsibility? One super chat? Has no one told you

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your cries are all invain I'm not sure I kept

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01:18:21,960 --> 01:18:25,159
the reference, but I do under I guess sympathize with

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the message behind it. But uh, Carl Man, we've gone

1271
01:18:28,359 --> 01:18:30,840
over so this is unusually rant filled for me. I

1272
01:18:30,880 --> 01:18:34,720
barely let you talk at all. That's podcasting. But uh,

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01:18:34,960 --> 01:18:35,840
where can people find you?

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01:18:35,880 --> 01:18:39,920
Speaker 7: Man? Best place to find me is on my substack,

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which is Carldall dot substack dot com. That's k A

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01:18:43,079 --> 01:18:45,880
R L d a h L dot substack dot com.

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Got two books on Amazon, Faction and Faction with the Crusaders.

1278
01:18:53,279 --> 01:18:57,239
Both are very relevant to your interests. If you have

1279
01:18:57,319 --> 01:19:01,479
any sympathies with regards to you, the kind of topics

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that we're discussing. And final point I would say is

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you invoked Mark Mitchell from Rasmussen and his appearance on

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that podcast. I will listen to that. But he's also

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01:19:13,199 --> 01:19:17,680
been on a tear on X and is he's a

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01:19:17,800 --> 01:19:20,560
very good poster on X. So people should give Mark

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01:19:20,760 --> 01:19:25,000
Mitchell a follow after they buy book. But thanks Jay,

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01:19:25,079 --> 01:19:27,239
great talking to you well.

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Speaker 2: Again man, it was awesome speaking to you. You guys

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know where to find me anyway.

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