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that has got a light and that is crying. Caleb,

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who is here with us morning, Welcome to the show,

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and of course returning to the show, Darling Hill. Hello,

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should we call you Darling Hill? Should we call you Kate?

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What should we call you?

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Speaker 2: I don't mind Darling Hill, I don't mind representation.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I've had some people.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of funny and people started calling me Darling,

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which kind of threw.

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right right, So thanks, not the worst thing. And of course, uh,

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you've you've been doing a lot with the listening room

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at Prayers of Nature.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we said, oh you know what too. Before we

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go any further, let me hold this up for people

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watching online. I'll hold up this cool sticker you brought

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us from the listening room at Prayers of Nature.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: So for those who don't know, refresh our memory on

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our memories collectively, on what that is what you do there.

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Speaker 2: Well, I do want to give a quick shout out

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to the artist of that picture you've shown is my

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friend Victoria. Her business name is actually I have Ethereal.

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She's a tattoo artist in Nashua. She's located under the

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Riverwalk Cafe. She's fabulous and we just released a couple

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of new images as she did as well yesterday.

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just wanted to create a little space for musicians to

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come and share their art in a way that is

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nurturing and celebrating who they are. As I did it

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years ago out of my home, but I kind of

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took a break, and as you know, I met you

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after I came back from Nashville and elevated a little

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bit and wanted to share that elevation with the artists

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that I work with locally. So create this small little

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space and Caleb will be number eleven, so excellent. I

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started with one. I was like, I'm just going to

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do one show month.

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Speaker 1: That's it.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to overdo it. I got the small

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little art studio, and then it turned and do well,

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since I have the gear out, I'll do two, you know,

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like a Friday Saturday. And then it turned into oh,

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i'll do it Thursday, Friday Saturday. So it's still once

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a month, but it's usually three shows in one weekend, okay,

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had the fortune of having people from not just New Hampshire,

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but getting the attention from people from Maine and New

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York and Connecticut basically a little in New England nugget.

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come be a part of it or there they get

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put on a waiting list because I am fully booked.

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now right.

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a musician myself, and I do understand. I try to

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accommodate what I would like, so people who see that,

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I think it attracts them. And Caleb reached out after

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Dan Blakesley swung through, Oh yeah, which was real helpful

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to I don't know if you've heard of him.

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a lot, because he's been around a while. Wasn't stopped,

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have another main artist. Or is he from Maine? He's

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from me. Yeah, so I really like what Maine's doing.

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think it's further north, there's less bs up there. Yeah,

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fixated on like pop country or folk, or like like

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a heavy metal vibe and even some punk. But I

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haven't seen this like cool spooky rockability. I don't even

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know what to call you sometimes, like I know what

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you are, but trying to articulate it to other people.

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Speaker 1: Cause we were talking off air about how and I

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was saying, Caleb, how I don't like listening to your

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and we should tell the audience too, not everything that

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you obviously is an instrumental We open with an instrumental track,

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but we're going to play some I love your voice,

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so I'm looking forward to playing some of the other

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stuff too. But I can't think of anybody around here

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who really sounds like you and what you're doing. But so,

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inspirational Western sci fi interesting okay, like from a library,

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and that I've been writing for a long time, and

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proud of, you know, every band I've been in. But

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over twenty years, and Auburn, Maine's a little more central Maine, okay,

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a band together was just kind of a pain. And

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it was just scheduling stuff. So I just started playing

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on my own, just using my feet and my arms

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and my voice, and I realized it's a lot less

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hassle and it's a means to an end. I can

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play my songs and I can agree to play anywhere

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at the drop of a hat. I'll have to run

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anything by a committee. I can do anything I want.

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who used to play in bands. Right, it's like, oh,

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this is actually easier logistically.

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would I'm not against it. I would love to someday

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have a band to play with. It's a lot. I

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love playing standing up, but it's just, you know, money's

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a thing, and I don't want to pay anybody. I

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don't want to play without getting paid if they're playing,

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if they're backing somebody up, and I get that. Yeah,

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packing up the cars. Sometimes I bring my dog yep,

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a great that's a great scene in Portland there's always

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a lot of good bands around. Sure, seems like, but

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you don't miss it.

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great place, but just having lived there. When I lived there,

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could afford to live there. Yeah, it was dirtier, people

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were maybe a little there was they were more rude. Okay,

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it was it was just a little more fun. And uh,

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you know that parable when they talk about the frog

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and boiling water that doesn't realize it's boiling until it's

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too late. That's kind of how I felt while I

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was living there. I was like, wow, this water is

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Speaker 1: Interesting.

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at Geno's. Yeah, And so I'm there a couple of

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times a month for shows or to see friends bands play.

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where you are. Oh yeah, that's awesome.

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thing in Portland you'd be doing the same thing.

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but definitely left to my own devices. More as far

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as like music, again, like playing alone, I'm just I

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bounce ideas off the wall and back to me.

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Speaker 1: Exactly. So what drew you to performing at prayers of

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Speaker 3: Like a cool it looked like a cool place. I mean,

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a day to somebody, and uh, you know, sometimes you

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hear back. Sometimes you hear back and there's enthusiasms. Sometimes

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you hear back and you have to plead your case

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to people of why you should be there to play.

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inquiry and I got a lot of enthusiasm back, which

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right there, it's like, yeah, okay, I want to play

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at this place, And yeah, it just looked cool, and

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i'd never been to Wilton, New Hampshire.

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an art mill, so it's pretty cool once you find it.

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it's different sense so that you would find a weird

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you opened, because because I think if I remember correctly,

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either about to start or you had just started it.

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you hadn't had it yet, okay, right right now. I've

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booked him and I was like, you want to come

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: It's like, if.

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Speaker 2: Anything, can you play your music and just talk about you?

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Speaker 4: You know?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I was happy that he's physically with us today.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: But I guess what's changed is my commitment to making

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sure that the sound is as good as it can

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online presence is really important, absolutely, and it's been helpful

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to me and exciting because I didn't really have much

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optimism when I started. Really I didn't. I hadn't been

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in the booking a venue scene in about three years.

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other people. I'd done it for myself. I'd done it

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as a musician. I'd done it as a venue. Yeah,

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I've done it as a nonprofit. I had done it.

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about themselves made me feel good about myself, and I

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me personally. And I wish I could do it every weekend,

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but I wouldn't have the fuel probably to do it.

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So it's good. I just I got to set that

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boundary with three and just make people wait, I guess

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if they want to come do it.

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Speaker 1: So you mentioned too, you're hearing from people. It sounds

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like you're hearing from people all over the Northeast at

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, you know, and it's it's a bummer too,

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because the second I recognize they're a little too far away,

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how we we don't offer a guarantee. I'm pretty transparent

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about that. Yeah, but I will I I will hustle

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for you and if you meet me halfway, we will

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do what we can. And I don't take a cut

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unless the room even sells out. So like, I'm not

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here to take your money, I'm really here to share

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your art. So yeah, for some people, though, that John

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is just a little too far. You know, as much

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as they want to come play, they're like, oh, man,

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I can't do it. But you know, I will say

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too something Caleb touched on, and then I'll shut up.

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As you position myself. Whenever I reach out and try

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to get bookings, not getting a response, I would rather

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get a no.

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Speaker 4: Oh.

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Speaker 2: I would rather get oh, we're booked, or you know,

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I'd rather get some kind of like confirmation that you

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at least saw my stuff right, and like, if it's

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not for you, you don't think it's a good fit, that's fine.

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But I get so irritated wh I don't even get

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a response. So I try to at least respond to people.

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respond to you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I will.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes it's a no and for whatever reason, but I

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will let you know so you can move about with

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your bookings accordingly.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, was there a point where you started to feel like, oh,

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this is really going to work or this is going

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to catch on more than I expected.

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Speaker 2: I was surprised by the response. For musicians, I want

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a more solid patronage, but that will just happen over time. Sure,

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I recognize that and bringing people in that aren't normally

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from here. Is helpful people willing to take the risk

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and come out share their art with us, And you know,

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in doing that, I've already gained just beginning Dan in there,

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I had people from town that it never even knew

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I existed down there, and they know Dan, so they

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don't want to come back.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So you know, every once in a while there's people

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in town that follow these artists that will come and

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then they want to come back to more. So I'm

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hoping by the end of the year I have a

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solid crew.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fantastic.

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Speaker 2: Now you know, twenty seats, you know I could do it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, that's fantastic. Yeah, Caleb, is this well, what

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is the show actually? When?

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Speaker 2: Saturday? Next week?

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Speaker 1: Next Saturday?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's the nineteenth nineteenth.

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Speaker 1: Will this be the most kind of unique situation for

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you in terms of where you've played, because this is

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obviously you know, there's nothing quite like you know, the

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listening room, this is, this is different.

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Speaker 3: It's definitely the most unique I think of the summer. Yeah,

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for sure, to have like my own basically like my

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own recital concert. The rest of the shows I'm playing

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this year or on bills with other artists, which is great.

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It is fun, and they'll be you know, thirty five

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forty minute sets, or I have a couple two or

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three hour nights where I'm just you know, playing in

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the corner somewhere, which is fine. Yeah, And but this

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will be like, yeah, this is probably the only like

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solo kind of recital to an interested audience that's there

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just for and I'll you know, I have more time

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to you know, explain myself by you know, talk talk

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about the song. The song, Yeah, talk about the songs.

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I can touch on that a little bit sometimes, but

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I'll actually have time to do that, or or play

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songs I don't play all that often. Like I've been

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thinking about, Oh, well I have you know, I've been

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making a list of stuff if I need to practice

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that I haven't played in a while that I'm looking

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forward to to playing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, yeah, Oh very cool. Well we should

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play another one of these studio tracks that you sent

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us and we had talked what was we had talked

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off here about one specifically.

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Speaker 3: Sad sci fi part one?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, tell us about this?

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Speaker 3: Well this My favorite genre of movies or television or

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or books is sad science fiction. It's science fiction that's

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you know, usually depressing because it's maybe a little less fiction,

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more nonfiction like apocalyptics. Yeah, you know, if you ever

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watched The Outer Limits, like The Outer Limits was one

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of my it's one of my favorite shows. It's like

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Twilight Zone, but it's purely science fiction. The episodes are longer,

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it's slower, darker. Yeah, and a lot of times it

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ends just on a really down beat, right right, And

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I just love that. I mean, that's what like fizz really.

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I mean, it's it's a horror. We can find joy

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here and there, but I mean we shouldn't be here.

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It's a struggle until you're dead. And that's the one

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thing we have guaranteed to us, right. And this is

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a song I wrote just the the the idea of,

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you know, we need optimistic people, we need people looking

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out for everyone, and I appreciate that, and and I

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honor that I am not one of those people, and

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and just the idea of of what what I see.

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I mean, the song is less fiction, I guess that

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I think. But like this this we're circling the drain,

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I guess. And that's where.

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Speaker 1: On that note, well, by the way, Maria Vanish and

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the chat room says outer Limits one of my favorites

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can be so scary.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I've.

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Speaker 1: Always been aware of the show, but I don't think

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I've ever actually seen the show.

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Speaker 3: It's it's fantastic.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I might have to check it out. It sound

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like something I would be interested in. Yeah, all right,

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so we will. Uh so let's give this suspend. And

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by the way, where are these uh these are from?

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You have an album or.

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Speaker 3: I have a I have a brand new album out

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called Cold Heart, Volume one. It was recorded live in

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the studio in Somerville, mass by my friend Sean Kerran

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at the Napoleon Complex. And you just set up a

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bunch of mics, hit record and I just blew through

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my set, and uh, it was an incredible experience. And

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it sounded so good that that was live, that was recording. Yeah,

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it's all live, no overdubs, and I was recorded in

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the studio.

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Speaker 1: Kind of doesn't surprise me because there's a there's a

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certain raw energy to to uh, you know, because I

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listened to the tracks that you sent and there's there's

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kind of a raw energy to them. It sounds it

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sounds like it was recorded, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was great, no headphones. You just put a

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monitor in front of my face, and.

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Speaker 2: I feel like he mixed it well though. When you

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said that, he's like the energy is there, But I

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was like, wow, this is actually I can't. I was

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actually having a hard time discerning. That's great though, in

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a good way.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he knows what he's doing, you know, clearly, clearly.

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And yeah, so a new album out And if you

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you know Crying Caleb, if you just google that, you'll

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find a bunch of stuff and you can find it everywhere.

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Speaker 1: Excellent, excellent. All right, so let's give this a spend.

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So this is sad sci fi part one. Yeah, this

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is Crying Caleb. Check this out.

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Speaker 6: No one he's coming to save us.

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Speaker 7: There's nothing out there, none of the man someone st

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difference to be made.

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Speaker 6: The future is my lives be silent? What is one true?

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Speaker 4: Now?

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Speaker 6: Is the only thing that's for your lautside of that

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is God?

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Speaker 5: Is we're so concerned now we well.

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Speaker 6: How we will. No one.

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Speaker 7: Is coming to war, couss, no one is coming to

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teach chums, and no one will remember the truelos that

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week face these days they are also special. That how going.

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No one knows the way, nobody knows no.

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Speaker 5: Way, living another one way street, turnball and I makes

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me what time is relative?

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Speaker 6: We spend it thinking other things. Wait, Ama thinks.

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Speaker 4: Wait, no one is coming to say buzz.

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Speaker 6: We know one.

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Speaker 7: Is coming to care, No one is coming to stop us,

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No one he's coming to collect.

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Speaker 1: There we go, sorry, said sci Fi part one. That

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is crying Caleb, and that is what's.

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Speaker 3: The name of the album? We get cold Heart Volume one?

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Speaker 1: Cold Heart Volume one, So there's going to be a

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volume two, I assume.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all right.

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Speaker 1: I was wondering when when I hear somebody call something

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part one, only because in the eighties when Hall and

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Oates released Rock and Soul Part one, they never put

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out a part two. So whenever I hear that yet, yeah, yes,

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but it ain't gonna happen now apparently.

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Speaker 2: They're all upset, but Oasis is back together, so it's fine.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so anything anything can happen tomorrow. Hollano, No, that

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song I was I was commenting off air. You know

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it's dark and it's sad, but it's also funny. Oh

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you know, I like the I like the sense of humor,

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you know, very dark humor.

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Speaker 3: But hilarious, no going to laugh.

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Speaker 1: And I guess it's funny because it's true, right, I think.

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Speaker 2: Too, what you what you did too with that song

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is you kind of made it timeless?

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: It's one of those ones where I'm like, oh, is

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he talking about right now or is he talking about?

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Like what is it? What is it?

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Speaker 3: Exactly?

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Speaker 2: He's putting hitting the nail on the head on your right.

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You didn't you didn't put it in a box, which

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I thought was great too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. Yeah, timeless, not only in terms of

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the lyrics, but in terms of the production. Because you

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could have told me that came from any point and

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I would have believed you, you know what I mean, Like,

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if you told me that was recorded in the seventies,

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I would have believed you. But but it was recorded now,

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and I obviously recorded a few months it was recorded

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a few months ago. Yeah, and and it's but so

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it's got that timeless quality to it, which I think

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is is really cool. You know. I also want to

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ask you, so you're also saying off air about because

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you're you're effectively I don't know if you even like

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the term maybe not one man band, but you were

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saying off air, I thought this was a really interesting,

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uh comment, that people will kind of suggest other solo

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artists who do kind of what you do all the time,

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and and you avoid listening to those.

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Speaker 3: It's uh yeah, I mean, if I hear it, it's fine,

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and I of course appreciate what they're doing because I'm

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doing the same thing. But I don't want it to

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get in my head, yeah kind of thing. Maybe it's

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a I don't know, it's it. I don't like, I

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don't want to be too influenced by the techniques of

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what other people do. I can definitely appreciate them like

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I and if I'm playing a show with one, of

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course it's fun to watch, but like, I don't spend

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my time listening like seeking out other one man bands

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and listening to them. Yeah, you know, for me, the

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one man band thing, it's a means to an end.

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It's just I want to play my songs, but I

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don't want to play acoustic. Yeah, solo thing, which is great.

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I know so many people who are good at it.

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I am not good at it. I want to rock

474
00:26:22,799 --> 00:26:25,480
and roll, and this is how I can do it,

475
00:26:25,519 --> 00:26:27,279
And this is how I can perform my songs. And

476
00:26:27,319 --> 00:26:30,559
I love to perform, so yeah, yeah, it's it's just

477
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:32,000
a way to do it.

478
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,079
Speaker 1: So when you're playing live, so you have an electric right,

479
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:36,759
so you're not yeah, so you're not doing the singer

480
00:26:36,799 --> 00:26:40,279
songwriter thing with an acoustic No, and then you're stomping

481
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:41,240
for the percussion, right.

482
00:26:41,319 --> 00:26:45,079
Speaker 3: Yeah. I have a bass drum, a high hat, a guitar,

483
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:50,039
and an amp. Yeah, and you know, I that's how

484
00:26:50,079 --> 00:26:52,240
I do it. Yeah. I can load in and out

485
00:26:52,279 --> 00:26:56,200
of anywhere usually within ten minutes. Yeah, it doesn't take

486
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,440
me long to set up and yeah, I go.

487
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:00,880
Speaker 1: You know, venue must love that.

488
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:05,039
Speaker 3: They do well. It's funny. I'll play a lot of

489
00:27:05,279 --> 00:27:07,880
I play a lot of places, like smaller places, and

490
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:11,720
they'll be they'll hear like the recorded material and they'll

491
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:13,599
be like, you might be too loud, and I promise

492
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:14,359
them I am not.

493
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:14,759
Speaker 4: Like.

494
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:19,400
Speaker 3: I'm very self aware of my tone how I want

495
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,559
to sound, and I have done a lot of work

496
00:27:21,599 --> 00:27:24,319
to make sure I can capture that tone at pretty

497
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:29,319
much any volume, different wattage. So if I'm playing, if

498
00:27:29,319 --> 00:27:32,720
I were playing in here, I could make it work.

499
00:27:33,279 --> 00:27:34,920
You know in this and I say in here you

500
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:38,559
can't see it, but it's a little room or on

501
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:42,559
a big stage, like I can adapt so I can

502
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:46,559
play smaller places and it's still sounds like me, but

503
00:27:46,599 --> 00:27:48,920
it's not going to stab anyone in the ear.

504
00:27:51,519 --> 00:27:55,519
Speaker 1: So was it challenging to learn to do that? Because well,

505
00:27:55,559 --> 00:27:57,920
obviously so you actually this is something you mentioned off

506
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,640
air too. You've also been a drummer, right, yes, so

507
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:04,519
obviously with drums, you know, that's the one instrument where

508
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,039
typically someone's using all four of their limbs. So maybe

509
00:28:07,039 --> 00:28:09,519
it wasn't challenging. I mean, was it challenging learn to

510
00:28:09,559 --> 00:28:10,079
do well?

511
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:11,799
Speaker 3: No, I mean there was a little bit of time,

512
00:28:11,839 --> 00:28:14,079
but it came pretty natural because I tap my foot

513
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:19,799
when I play. I'm really excited to tempo and feeling

514
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:23,319
like I guess I hate the word but groove of

515
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,720
what I'm doing. But I was just talking with a

516
00:28:25,759 --> 00:28:28,359
friend of mine the other day. While I'm doing it,

517
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,759
I'm not thinking about everything I'm doing all at once.

518
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:35,119
It's automatic, like it's just I'm just doing it. Like

519
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:40,359
and if I'm singing, my concentration is on the singing.

520
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,359
If I'm playing guitar solo, my concentrations on the guitar solo,

521
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,599
what my feet are doing. I mean, I'm aware of them,

522
00:28:46,599 --> 00:28:49,880
but I'm not. If I start thinking about it, I

523
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,759
will crash. And it's funny because I am I'm not

524
00:28:53,839 --> 00:28:55,039
a very coordinated person.

525
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 1: Really.

526
00:28:55,599 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 3: I joke with my old lady all the time, like

527
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,119
gravity is a lot stronger around me than anywhere else.

528
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:05,119
Drop stuff, always bumping into things. Oh it look like

529
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:08,759
a moron when I'm loading stuff around. But when I'm

530
00:29:08,799 --> 00:29:12,680
sitting playing, yeah, it seems very graceful.

531
00:29:12,799 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 1: It's like I am just not I can absolutely relate

532
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:22,799
to that. Yeah. So yeah, so when you yeah, I

533
00:29:23,079 --> 00:29:25,200
remember the first time I saw somebody do anything like

534
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:29,640
that was uh, John Hot years ago. Boy, this must

535
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:31,480
have been like twenty years ago. I saw John Hyatt

536
00:29:31,519 --> 00:29:34,720
live and conquered and and it was cool. You know,

537
00:29:34,759 --> 00:29:36,279
he doesn't and he doesn't have like a little drum

538
00:29:36,359 --> 00:29:39,319
kit or anything. He would just stand out with his guitar,

539
00:29:39,559 --> 00:29:42,039
but he had there was a microphone obviously on the floor.

540
00:29:42,039 --> 00:29:43,559
They had the floor micd and he would, you know,

541
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,759
start tapping his foot and it just sounded so cool though. Yeah,

542
00:29:46,799 --> 00:29:48,640
when he when he started doing that, because it it

543
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,400
surprises the audience a little bit too, because you know,

544
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,440
he's just out there with his guitar, so you think

545
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,319
he's just because it was an acoustic show. Obviously, he

546
00:29:55,359 --> 00:29:56,640
did a lot of tours where he played with the

547
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,000
full band, but this particular tour is just an acoustic

548
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,240
tour and it was just him the guitar, so you

549
00:30:01,279 --> 00:30:03,240
almost don't expect it. And then he starts tapping and

550
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,279
there's obviously a mic on the floor. It's like, oh,

551
00:30:05,279 --> 00:30:06,200
that sounds really good.

552
00:30:06,519 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's great. I mean, I've seen before I

553
00:30:09,279 --> 00:30:11,920
started doing this, I had seen a few one man

554
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:16,559
bands perform, and I remember loving it, but also thinking

555
00:30:16,599 --> 00:30:19,079
like I could do that. M like I could do that,

556
00:30:19,799 --> 00:30:23,119
and I'd even tell people, you know, I could do that. Yeah,

557
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:27,680
And eventually I did that well during COVID times my

558
00:30:27,799 --> 00:30:30,599
band wasn't playing, of course, yeah, and I got really bored.

559
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:34,119
So that was when I started like practicing it and

560
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,000
doing it and putting up videos and stuff. And then

561
00:30:37,559 --> 00:30:41,599
once things started opening back up, I started playing with

562
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,359
the drummer again and that was fine. And then, like

563
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,240
I said, when I moved up to Auburn, Maine, I

564
00:30:47,279 --> 00:30:52,359
decided to just do it one man band, but no,

565
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,359
I mean people have been doing it since forever. Yeah,

566
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,400
I mean, it's it's a I like it. It's kind

567
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,640
of a Carneye Carnie trick. You know, it's it's it's

568
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:05,839
a sideshow thing, and it's it's I try not the

569
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,519
I'm serious. The songs there can be serious. They're funny

570
00:31:09,519 --> 00:31:12,319
and like, I'm serious about that, but I also realize

571
00:31:12,359 --> 00:31:16,240
it's pretty ridiculous and it's fun it's funny. Sure, it's

572
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,720
funny to watch. Ye, some people when they're watching it,

573
00:31:18,759 --> 00:31:20,880
they're just like, oh yeah, it's.

574
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 1: Just I love it.

575
00:31:21,319 --> 00:31:24,079
Speaker 2: It comes out of one person. Yeah, I think it's cool.

576
00:31:24,079 --> 00:31:27,480
You've surrounded yourself with ways, in different ways to express yourself,

577
00:31:27,759 --> 00:31:30,039
and I really enjoy it.

578
00:31:30,079 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean, but it is I understand. I

579
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,119
recognize that it's pretty funny.

580
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 1: We should play another one. Let's see should we play?

581
00:31:41,359 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 5: What?

582
00:31:41,519 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 1: Should we play?

583
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:44,519
Speaker 3: Oh? How She Dances is a fun one.

584
00:31:44,599 --> 00:31:47,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to learn about why you covered that,

585
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,400
because I don't know if you want to talk about

586
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,160
an hour after, But like I was hoping that that

587
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:52,559
would be the song i'd learn more about.

588
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, i'd heard, Oh yeah, I had heard it's I

589
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,519
didn't write this, you know. It's I'd heard one of

590
00:31:59,559 --> 00:32:04,319
my favorite artists, Taff Falco and the Panther Burns, do

591
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,920
this song, and I remember I just loved it. I

592
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:10,319
loved the whole Spieley gives and I remember thinking like,

593
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,640
I could do this song, yeah, a long time ago,

594
00:32:12,839 --> 00:32:16,400
and then I like looked it up and realized, like,

595
00:32:16,559 --> 00:32:18,519
you know, I didn't think it was his song, but

596
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:23,160
turns out it's just this old vaudevillian song from the

597
00:32:23,759 --> 00:32:27,240
like nineteen fifteen or something like that, and I was like, well,

598
00:32:27,279 --> 00:32:29,640
and this doesn't belong to anybody. I could definitely do

599
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,359
this song. And you know, I think, like any song

600
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,680
like that, it gets changed. So this is my version.

601
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,720
And I grew up in Old Orchard Beach, Maine, which

602
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:44,279
you know, I'm part Carney. Like that was downtown Old Orchard.

603
00:32:44,359 --> 00:32:47,960
That's a lot of us who grew up there, especially

604
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,759
like the time I grew up there, we started working downtown.

605
00:32:50,799 --> 00:32:54,240
I had my first job downtown hustling Taurus when I

606
00:32:54,279 --> 00:32:57,039
was like twelve years old, you know, And a lot

607
00:32:57,079 --> 00:33:00,319
of it's hustling Taurus. Some of it's just it's like

608
00:33:00,559 --> 00:33:02,799
food service. Some of them is trying to rope people

609
00:33:02,839 --> 00:33:05,759
in just rip them off, playing an impossible game that

610
00:33:05,799 --> 00:33:09,759
they're not going to win, you know. And I just

611
00:33:10,039 --> 00:33:16,240
the whole art of the circus and the traveling people

612
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,920
just fleecing roubes. I just think it's hilarious and like

613
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:25,480
humans are so easily manipulated and tricked into doing dumb

614
00:33:25,519 --> 00:33:28,960
stuff if they're told, yes, this is the right decision.

615
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:33,599
Speaker 1: Why is Old Orchard Beach like that specifically, just because well, it's.

616
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 3: A tourist town, but it's one of the places in

617
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:41,400
the Northeast. It's a working class vacation spot. It's where

618
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,960
working people can afford to go, where working people can

619
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,880
afford to take their families and keep them entertained. There's

620
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:51,240
games and rides. It's cheaper. I mean, it's not cheap,

621
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,519
but it's cheaper than going to a gun Quit or

622
00:33:55,079 --> 00:33:59,680
Kenny Bunk or Booth Bay Harbor or Kadia or anywhere

623
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:04,720
like that. It's it's it's kind of low grade entertainment

624
00:34:04,839 --> 00:34:08,559
for regular folks, okay, And so you get a lot

625
00:34:08,559 --> 00:34:11,880
of you know, working class people. You get some affluent people,

626
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:15,679
but most for the most part, it's just regular folks.

627
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 1: Oh, that's interesting.

628
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:17,360
Speaker 3: Okay.

629
00:34:17,559 --> 00:34:19,199
Speaker 1: I was partly curious too, because I think I've only

630
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:21,280
been there once. But the first time I ever saw

631
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:22,119
Kiss was it older?

632
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,320
Speaker 3: Oh there you go. Yeah, Yeah, that's a good band

633
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:26,079
for that town.

634
00:34:26,199 --> 00:34:30,159
Speaker 1: There you go interesting. Yeah, all right, So we're gonna

635
00:34:30,159 --> 00:34:31,920
give this a spend. So this is See I didn't

636
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:33,920
even know this was a cover. Yeah when I when

637
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:37,320
I listened to it.

638
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,599
Speaker 3: It's royalty. I wouldn't record a song that wasn't.

639
00:34:39,599 --> 00:34:40,559
Speaker 2: I didn't know if you paid.

640
00:34:41,039 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 1: Oh no, yeah, all right, cool, all right, let's give

641
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:45,920
this a spin. This is how she dances, and this

642
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:47,280
is crime Caleb.

643
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:01,639
Speaker 6: Ladies and gentlemen are right this way.

644
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:05,679
Speaker 8: See the greatest conglomeration of curiosities ever gathered under one

645
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:11,440
canvas tent. See the Indian rubber Boy. See two ton

646
00:35:11,599 --> 00:35:16,039
Tiny the back of Lady. See Prince Jujububbo the sword swallower.

647
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,320
He is also the snake Charmer.

648
00:35:19,199 --> 00:35:20,280
Speaker 9: See the Lovely.

649
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:24,039
Speaker 8: Princess Karma performer spectacular dance sismond It high above the

650
00:35:24,079 --> 00:35:25,360
heads of the audience.

651
00:35:25,039 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 6: On a palet's surface, no larger than a silver dive.

652
00:35:30,519 --> 00:35:34,800
Speaker 8: She performs her dancity accompaniment to a strange Tom Tom orchestra,

653
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:38,679
lit by a myriad array of thousands of tiny electric

654
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:39,519
light bombs.

655
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 6: Every nerve, every muscle, every fiber of her body is

656
00:35:43,599 --> 00:35:45,119
shimmy's like jelly in the bowl.

657
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,840
Speaker 8: So bring your friends, your neighbors, and your children, or

658
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:50,119
they may reproach you in.

659
00:35:50,159 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 6: Later life for this un caught, for lack of their education.

660
00:35:54,199 --> 00:35:57,039
Speaker 8: It only cost a dime two nichols one tenth part

661
00:35:57,079 --> 00:35:57,599
of a dollar.

662
00:35:58,119 --> 00:36:03,679
Speaker 6: You may receive instructions, but push don't show. There's room

663
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:04,320
for one and all.

664
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:09,679
Speaker 4: Bucko man stood outside another great side show.

665
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,800
Speaker 6: Wild to ride right this week we have.

666
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:18,559
Speaker 8: The main attraction with us today, the dancing princess Lemental.

667
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,559
Speaker 6: She don't move her feet at all, saying she drew

668
00:36:22,639 --> 00:36:24,760
up the suns in two distractions.

669
00:36:26,639 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 8: Well hire room Green pulled out a time, he said, boys,

670
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:30,480
I'm here and a.

671
00:36:30,519 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 6: Half the time, so give me easy now front as

672
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:39,079
far as I'm al. Willy stayed in there four.

673
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:43,039
Speaker 8: Hours about and last they threw Paul higher out.

674
00:36:42,519 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 6: And as they did, she dances. Know how she dances.

675
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:55,800
Speaker 8: I've never seen such a room in my life.

676
00:36:56,119 --> 00:36:59,159
Speaker 6: It beats that dancing costole what boys, you all and

677
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:02,199
stay at home and of all your cha chen to

678
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:11,519
your She wiggles, Oh, she wiggles, she shimmy is just

679
00:37:11,679 --> 00:37:13,760
like chili in both.

680
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:23,039
Speaker 8: She is never steaming streets of cairos.

681
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,599
Speaker 3: I've known from a baby.

682
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:26,599
Speaker 6: She's from my.

683
00:37:28,079 --> 00:37:28,800
Speaker 1: Town.

684
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 6: Like this way, ladies and.

685
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:36,280
Speaker 8: Gentlemen, Right this way to see the incredible despicable geek

686
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,840
captured in the wilds of Old Orchard Beach Main, where

687
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,559
he was incarcerated in the attic by his parents at

688
00:37:42,599 --> 00:37:46,599
the tender age of fourteen. In order to survive, he

689
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:51,599
learned to eat my rats, live chickens, and other living organisms.

690
00:37:51,679 --> 00:37:54,079
Speaker 6: Yes, friends, heats.

691
00:37:56,039 --> 00:38:03,840
Speaker 1: Oh that is Oh how she dances. That is Crime

692
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:07,280
Caleb from the album Cold Heart Volume one. Hey, where's

693
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:08,800
the name come from? By the way, Crime Caleb.

694
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:14,800
Speaker 3: Good question. Well, one of my I don't really believe

695
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:16,679
in heroes, but let's say I was someone who believed

696
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,000
in a hero. Sure one of them would be Scream

697
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:23,280
and Jay Hawkins Scream and Jay Howland Wolf. There's another

698
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,320
guy I like named Lonesome Wyatt. I like the you

699
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:31,119
know that title in Yeah my name you know it's

700
00:38:32,159 --> 00:38:35,639
Caleb Aaron Colthard, and Colthard is one of those names

701
00:38:35,639 --> 00:38:38,000
like in a loud room. If if I tell people

702
00:38:38,039 --> 00:38:39,679
my name, they say what was that? And I'm like,

703
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:44,079
exactly right right, And it was actually my friend Heather,

704
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:49,039
who painted the cover of the new album. When she

705
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,599
learned my real last last name, she was like cold

706
00:38:51,599 --> 00:38:54,880
heart and I was like, yeah, exactly, oh you know yeah,

707
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,880
And I had heard that before. An old teacher in

708
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:02,519
school used to say I had a cold heart, but no, yeah, crying.

709
00:39:02,599 --> 00:39:05,320
Caleb was just it's just I needed a name. Yeah,

710
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:08,119
and that was came up with it and I asked

711
00:39:08,119 --> 00:39:09,239
a few people. I was like, what do you think

712
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,000
of that? And they're like that's good, Yeah, all right,

713
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:12,880
yeah yeah yeah.

714
00:39:13,079 --> 00:39:15,119
Speaker 1: Well, by the way, Miriam said in the chat room,

715
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,880
feeling a little Tom Waits thing in this, is he

716
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:21,000
an influence on you? I didn't think of that until

717
00:39:21,119 --> 00:39:23,360
Miriam said that, but yeah, I can. I'm gonna hear it.

718
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean to to an extent. There's like three

719
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:31,639
Tom Waits records I really like, Yeah and yeah, I

720
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,519
like those three albums.

721
00:39:34,559 --> 00:39:35,199
Speaker 1: He's a unique.

722
00:39:35,599 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, he's not my favorite, but I definitely

723
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:41,440
the songs I like by him, I really really really

724
00:39:41,559 --> 00:39:45,199
like Yeah. But I'm I don't know if he's so

725
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:50,320
much an influence. Maybe just it's in there somewhere. We

726
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:55,119
know he's not a hero, no heroes. Yeah, it's good time.

727
00:39:57,639 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 2: I felt like I had, like I told when Dan came,

728
00:40:00,079 --> 00:40:01,239
and I feel the same way about you.

729
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:02,119
Speaker 3: I woke up.

730
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 2: I was in my house last night, and you're ready

731
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,199
for bed as like musical Santa's.

732
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 3: Coming tomorrow, musical.

733
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:07,679
Speaker 4: See.

734
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:10,280
Speaker 2: You may not be my hero, but you're my musical Santa.

735
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,920
I couldn't sleep last night. I was I haven't actually

736
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:16,280
met him. We've been talking online, so I booked him

737
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:17,719
and just getting to know each other. But I'm like,

738
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:18,719
I actually get to meet him.

739
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:23,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh that's cool. That's cool, very cool. Now, what

740
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,280
about so when is uh have you started working on

741
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:27,440
Coldhart Volume two yet?

742
00:40:27,519 --> 00:40:34,360
Speaker 3: Or well it's I okay. I put on an album

743
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,679
called night Hoss a few years ago and that was

744
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:42,559
like my first solo record, and after that, over the

745
00:40:42,679 --> 00:40:48,000
last few years, I've recorded a lot and then that

746
00:40:48,119 --> 00:40:50,119
was going to be the next album. But and then

747
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,880
out of nowhere, I got a show in Massachusetts and

748
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,199
I decided to make a weekend of it and book

749
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:58,760
another show while I was down there and studio time

750
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:01,480
and recorded and I was like, boom, that's the record.

751
00:41:01,639 --> 00:41:03,159
So I just put that out. But I still have

752
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:05,000
all these recordings I've done that I really like.

753
00:41:05,199 --> 00:41:05,559
Speaker 1: OK.

754
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,360
Speaker 3: I think those are probably gonna come out in some

755
00:41:10,559 --> 00:41:14,840
shape or form. But cold Heart Volume two, I don't

756
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:16,880
even know if that will be the next album, but

757
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:20,400
there will be one. I imagine it will be another

758
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:24,760
one man band, like live in the studio, once I

759
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:28,280
get enough songs that I want to use that way,

760
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,480
because the other stuff I record, like my first album

761
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:35,079
night Hoss and singles I've put out. When I record those,

762
00:41:35,159 --> 00:41:38,519
I actually record. I play drums, and I play bass,

763
00:41:38,559 --> 00:41:41,239
and I do guitar and couples. Like I record it

764
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:43,639
as a whole band, I'm still playing everything. I might

765
00:41:43,679 --> 00:41:46,280
have a guest play organ or something. I don't know

766
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:51,480
how to play on it. But the live show is

767
00:41:51,639 --> 00:41:54,440
one man band. And that's why this new album is

768
00:41:54,599 --> 00:41:57,039
the closest to like, this is what I sound like live.

769
00:41:57,199 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 1: Yeah you know, yeah, no, that makes sense. That makes

770
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,480
sense when you do some of the shows that you do,

771
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:04,039
if you have to play a long time, so you

772
00:42:04,119 --> 00:42:06,320
mix in some covers, originals.

773
00:42:06,199 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 3: Yes I do. I do you know old country songs?

774
00:42:11,519 --> 00:42:14,079
I I don't do anything I don't like, that's for sure.

775
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:18,400
But I'll do a song I do Bela Lugosi's Dead

776
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:23,679
by the Bow House, a Forest by the Cure Echo

777
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,719
and the Bunnyman Morrissey.

778
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 2: You did one recently that or I don't know if

779
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:30,559
you did it recently, but I watched it recently with

780
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:33,360
the opening for Rocky Horror Pictures show.

781
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,320
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Rocky Horror. That's a fun one, the science

782
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:42,199
fiction double feature. Yeah, I'd do that one. Yeah, Kinks.

783
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:47,599
You know, there's some songs I've known my whole life,

784
00:42:48,159 --> 00:42:50,440
but I've never actually played that. Like I played a

785
00:42:50,519 --> 00:42:54,239
show in Lewiston, near where I live, and I was

786
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:56,360
playing a two hour show and on the way there

787
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:58,079
I heard a whole lot of shaking going on by

788
00:42:58,119 --> 00:43:01,440
Jerry Lee Lewis. Now I've heard that song thousands of

789
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:04,000
times probably sure, and I was like, I could play this.

790
00:43:04,079 --> 00:43:06,000
So while I was playing, I just start playing it.

791
00:43:06,079 --> 00:43:08,760
Oh really, it's not it's three chords. Just had to

792
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:11,159
remember the words and that was a blast, you know,

793
00:43:11,639 --> 00:43:15,920
like I Jerry Lee Lewis, Little Richard like you know

794
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:18,719
stuff I do. Yeah, I do a lot of covers.

795
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:20,559
Speaker 1: It sounds like it sounds like though some of the

796
00:43:20,599 --> 00:43:23,639
covers you do might be there might be instances where

797
00:43:23,679 --> 00:43:25,840
people who are there don't necessarily realize their covers right,

798
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:29,000
because some of these not in not standard issue covers.

799
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 3: I mean, I often I try not to take you know,

800
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,480
I'll mention like the songs written by so and so

801
00:43:34,599 --> 00:43:37,800
or afterwards, I'll say it whether they hear it or not.

802
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:42,599
But it's great if I'm playing for a group of like,

803
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:46,440
you know, working dudes who like country music, and then

804
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,800
I throw an echo and the Bunnyman song they've never heard,

805
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,400
but they like it, or a cure song, but they

806
00:43:51,559 --> 00:43:54,239
like it and they don't even realize it's a like

807
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:57,199
if they heard the original, they probably like, what right?

808
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:01,280
I really enjoy that? Or the flip side of it,

809
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:06,559
doing you know a country song that a different audience

810
00:44:06,639 --> 00:44:06,880
might not.

811
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 2: That you could do a sick rap cover if you

812
00:44:10,039 --> 00:44:11,119
found the right rap song.

813
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:13,760
Speaker 3: I used to, but in this day and age, I

814
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,719
don't do the ones I used to do because a

815
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:20,920
sense of humor. Sure, and of course there's nothing malicious

816
00:44:21,119 --> 00:44:26,719
in in my my but I'm like, I'm not gonna

817
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:27,440
do those anymore.

818
00:44:28,519 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 1: Understood, Yeah, understood, Yeah, yeah, oh, the time goes quickly.

819
00:44:33,079 --> 00:44:34,639
I want to make sure we I want to make

820
00:44:34,639 --> 00:44:37,079
sure we get one more song in. But I also

821
00:44:37,119 --> 00:44:39,079
want to remind everybody, especially for people who are just

822
00:44:39,159 --> 00:44:42,559
joining us, about the show coming up at at Prayers,

823
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:46,280
I keep doing that a listening room. I think I'm

824
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:49,920
suffering from adult on set dyslexia. Forgive me the listening

825
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:51,320
room at Prayers of Nature.

826
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:54,599
Speaker 2: But you can find everything at Prayers of Nature dot com.

827
00:44:54,639 --> 00:44:56,559
So I've made it a little difficult for you.

828
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 1: Maybe that's maybe that's why I keep inspiring.

829
00:44:58,920 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 3: In my brain.

830
00:45:00,079 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 2: You can reserve seats for as little as twelve dollars.

831
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:06,280
You can come see Caleb, which is quite a steal

832
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:10,440
if you ask me. And it's September, I'm sorry. Saturday,

833
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:14,280
July nineteenth. The doors open at six thirty, the show

834
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:18,360
starts at seven. Okay, yeah, Prayers at Nature dot com.

835
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:20,360
You can reserve a seat. I won't turn people away

836
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:22,360
if they show up at the door. It's just if

837
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:24,880
you want to be able to sit down. Yeah, you're

838
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:26,880
going to want to go online and reserve a seat,

839
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:28,280
but if you show up, you know I'm not going

840
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:32,199
to be like, go away, right right, I'm just gonna Yeah,

841
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:34,719
I call it the Wallflower Pass. You still pay, but

842
00:45:35,119 --> 00:45:38,760
you're going to be standing. So yeah, yeah, I'm really

843
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:42,320
excited about it. We also have I should mention before Caleb,

844
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:45,119
there is two other acts. There's one on Thursday called

845
00:45:45,119 --> 00:45:49,760
Blame It On Sally. It's a duo upright bass guitar.

846
00:45:50,199 --> 00:45:52,679
The woman who plays upright bass is actually an artist

847
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:55,679
at the mill that I'm in, So she's an art

848
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:59,039
professor and she's a painter. So she's going to be

849
00:45:59,079 --> 00:46:01,559
opening her studio for her show for people to show

850
00:46:01,599 --> 00:46:04,320
up early and enjoy her art before she actually performs.

851
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,719
So that's Blame It On Sally on Thursday. And then

852
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:10,559
Tom Russo, who you've met, my cousin, is performing.

853
00:46:10,599 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 1: He's been on a few times.

854
00:46:11,559 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's coming that Friday, and once again they all

855
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:17,599
start at seven, open at six thirty. And then yeah,

856
00:46:17,679 --> 00:46:20,280
Caleb on the nineteen oh and it was Caleb.

857
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, excellent, excellent, And Caleb, what should people know about?

858
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:25,840
Where to find you online? Where to get your albums?

859
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:29,199
Speaker 3: And oh, just you can google crying Caleb, You're gonna

860
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:33,840
find me. But I'm on all the social media stuff,

861
00:46:34,119 --> 00:46:37,960
well not all of them, but not OnlyFans, not on OnlyFans.

862
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 1: It's hard to be on all of them. There's so many.

863
00:46:39,559 --> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 3: But I I say, you know, Instagram, Facebook, you can

864
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:46,840
find Crying Caleb YouTube. I have a lot of stuff

865
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:49,159
on YouTube that I don't put on the other stuff.

866
00:46:50,559 --> 00:46:53,400
And you know I have a band camp. But you

867
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:56,360
can find you can find me. Yeah, you can find me.

868
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:58,440
It's not hard to find ye. People who say they

869
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,079
can't find me, it's like you didn't right, right, Yeah,

870
00:47:01,199 --> 00:47:03,559
And I don't blame you. This is who's got time

871
00:47:04,079 --> 00:47:06,519
this work. It's hard, man.

872
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:10,320
Speaker 1: I've always I've always thought it's funny when somebody says, oh, yeah,

873
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:11,880
I looked for you online. I couldn't find you. It's

874
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:17,039
like you try, you couldn't find a guy named Matt Connorton. Like,

875
00:47:17,079 --> 00:47:19,159
how many Matt Connortons do you think there are out there?

876
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,199
There is one other one, but he's my uncle, so

877
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:27,280
he doesn't count. Oh uncle Matt, Yeah, Uncle Natt. Well,

878
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:29,960
very good, and we will. So we'll close out with

879
00:47:30,039 --> 00:47:33,000
this track to Live and Love in the Shadow of Fear.

880
00:47:33,199 --> 00:47:36,039
Speaker 3: Oh okay, it's an ominous title. Yeah, and this is

881
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:39,639
an episode of the Outer Limits, The New Outer Limits.

882
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:41,800
My girlfriend always says, stop calling it the new Outer

883
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:44,159
Limits because it's from the nineties, because the original show

884
00:47:44,199 --> 00:47:44,880
was in the sixties.

885
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:46,760
Speaker 1: Oh, I didn't even realize that there's going to reboot.

886
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:50,199
Speaker 3: Yeah there was in the nineties, Okay, but this episode,

887
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:53,840
particular episode is about someone who realizes there's something wrong

888
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:58,639
with the moon and that the sun probably went nova

889
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:02,360
in that as morning come, everyone's going to be incinerated.

890
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:06,599
So he decides to spend his last night on Earth

891
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:10,800
coming clean with the Galley has a crush on that

892
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:13,039
works at the bookstore, and he asks her out on

893
00:48:13,119 --> 00:48:17,320
a date and you know, spends what they believe to

894
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:19,960
be their last night on Earth together, but she doesn't

895
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,360
realize the Earth is gonna be gone in the morning.

896
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:25,000
When she finds out, she's kind of angry, like why

897
00:48:25,039 --> 00:48:27,320
would I want to spend the rest of my life

898
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:30,400
with you? Like I barely know you. But it's Outer Limits,

899
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:33,920
so it gets more complicated. But anyway, I just love

900
00:48:34,039 --> 00:48:38,079
that idea of the end coming and just knowing when

901
00:48:38,119 --> 00:48:40,079
it's coming and being like, what do you want to do,

902
00:48:40,119 --> 00:48:41,760
And it's like, well, I know what i'd like to do.

903
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:43,960
I'd like to spend it with the woman I love.

904
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:45,880
So that's what this song.

905
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:49,639
Speaker 1: Oh, very cool, very cool, crying Caleb, thank you so much,

906
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:52,000
thank you, and of course Darling Hill, thank you. Oh

907
00:48:52,039 --> 00:48:54,360
and thank you for the wonderful sticker too. I'll hold

908
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:55,920
that up for people watching online so they can see

909
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:58,559
it one more time for the listening room at Prayers

910
00:48:58,559 --> 00:49:02,440
of Nature. Set right yet, it very good, and we

911
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:05,079
will close out today's show with this. This is to

912
00:49:05,159 --> 00:49:07,000
live in love in the shadow of fear, And this

913
00:49:07,199 --> 00:49:08,079
is Crian Caleb.

914
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:29,320
Speaker 3: I want to spend.

915
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 6: His night with you.

916
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:41,519
Speaker 7: Because in the morning it'll all be gone.

917
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:48,719
Speaker 8: Nothing really mans with nothing.

918
00:49:51,079 --> 00:49:56,519
Speaker 3: He's no more now, nothing is no.

919
00:49:56,760 --> 00:50:07,400
Speaker 9: More spilling weird.

920
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:14,519
Speaker 6: And old youth in my art.

921
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 10: While in all schools dart into closed eyes, we see

922
00:50:22,199 --> 00:50:30,679
shimmer rings, sills, breadles as the lightning exists forth the

923
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:52,199
last time, the futures is.

924
00:50:52,639 --> 00:51:01,559
Speaker 6: Silas and it's cool. It's a hostile where we won't

925
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:10,360
be long. So it's spend the night doing.

926
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:13,519
Speaker 3: Those things we saw love to.

927
00:51:14,199 --> 00:51:19,440
Speaker 6: Do, like watching movies and telling Joe's.

928
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:24,360
Speaker 1: Spending me.

929
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:35,599
Speaker 6: And Aldien in my arms.

930
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:37,880
Speaker 4: While it all.

931
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:45,039
Speaker 6: Starts to close nyes, we see shimmericks.

932
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:53,159
Speaker 10: Still over as the light exists for the last time.

933
00:51:56,119 --> 00:52:04,760
Speaker 6: It was the last time. U n I fading as

934
00:52:05,199 --> 00:52:07,000
on into.

935
00:52:07,039 --> 00:52:18,199
Speaker 9: The Toparness un I, burning as once into as ashes,

936
00:52:19,199 --> 00:52:24,039
un I fading as once into the.

937
00:52:26,519 --> 00:52:36,639
Speaker 6: Boy, U n I, bursting as one as one hard