Speaker 1: That is very very catchy. I like that a lot
that has got a light and that is crying. Caleb,
who is here with us morning, Welcome to the show,
and of course returning to the show, Darling Hill. Hello,
should we call you Darling Hill? Should we call you Kate?
What should we call you?
Speaker 2: I don't mind Darling Hill, I don't mind representation.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I've had some people.
Speaker 2: It's kind of funny and people started calling me Darling,
which kind of threw.
Speaker 1: Oh really yeah, yeah yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Didn't hate it though. I thought it was kind of cute,
right right, So thanks, not the worst thing. And of course, uh,
you've you've been doing a lot with the listening room
at Prayers of Nature.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we said, oh you know what too. Before we
go any further, let me hold this up for people
watching online. I'll hold up this cool sticker you brought
us from the listening room at Prayers of Nature.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 1: So for those who don't know, refresh our memory on
our memories collectively, on what that is what you do there.
Speaker 2: Well, I do want to give a quick shout out
to the artist of that picture you've shown is my
friend Victoria. Her business name is actually I have Ethereal.
She's a tattoo artist in Nashua. She's located under the
Riverwalk Cafe. She's fabulous and we just released a couple
of new images as she did as well yesterday.
Speaker 3: Okay, so that's cool.
Speaker 2: She's been working with me since we started. So I
just wanted to create a little space for musicians to
come and share their art in a way that is
nurturing and celebrating who they are. As I did it
years ago out of my home, but I kind of
took a break, and as you know, I met you
after I came back from Nashville and elevated a little
bit and wanted to share that elevation with the artists
that I work with locally. So create this small little
space and Caleb will be number eleven, so excellent. I
started with one. I was like, I'm just going to
do one show month.
Speaker 1: That's it.
Speaker 2: I don't want to overdo it. I got the small
little art studio, and then it turned and do well,
since I have the gear out, I'll do two, you know,
like a Friday Saturday. And then it turned into oh,
i'll do it Thursday, Friday Saturday. So it's still once
a month, but it's usually three shows in one weekend, okay,
And so yes, Caleb is number eleven. Good And I've
had the fortune of having people from not just New Hampshire,
but getting the attention from people from Maine and New
York and Connecticut basically a little in New England nugget.
And once they hear the deal, they either decide to
come be a part of it or there they get
put on a waiting list because I am fully booked.
Speaker 1: So oh that's good. Yeah, that's that's a good problem
now right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty interesting. I think people you know, I'm
a musician myself, and I do understand. I try to
accommodate what I would like, so people who see that,
I think it attracts them. And Caleb reached out after
Dan Blakesley swung through, Oh yeah, which was real helpful
to I don't know if you've heard of him.
Speaker 1: I interviewed Dan Blakesley a long time ago. Yeah, yeah,
a lot, because he's been around a while. Wasn't stopped,
Yeah a long time ago.
Speaker 2: Wow, he hasn't stopped. So yeah, I'm really excited to
have another main artist. Or is he from Maine? He's
from me. Yeah, so I really like what Maine's doing.
So New Hampshire pay attention.
Speaker 1: Yes, well, what what is Main doing that we're not
doing here?
Speaker 2: I think they're just weirder, Man, They're just weirder. I
think it's further north, there's less bs up there. Yeah,
there's something going on. Yeah, closer to the sky. I think, ah, interesting, interesting,
it's funkier, it's weirder, it's spookier. I think they embrace
that a little more so than in this area. I
think here is from my perception from what I've seen,
is the local music scene here seems to really hyper
fixated on like pop country or folk, or like like
a heavy metal vibe and even some punk. But I
haven't seen this like cool spooky rockability. I don't even
know what to call you sometimes, like I know what
you are, but trying to articulate it to other people.
What Caleb does is well yeah.
Speaker 1: Cause we were talking off air about how and I
was saying, Caleb, how I don't like listening to your
and we should tell the audience too, not everything that
you obviously is an instrumental We open with an instrumental track,
but we're going to play some I love your voice,
so I'm looking forward to playing some of the other
stuff too. But I can't think of anybody around here
who really sounds like you and what you're doing. But so,
what do you think it is?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 1: What's different about where your area is?
Speaker 3: Someone's sent me a photo the other day that said
inspirational Western sci fi interesting okay, like from a library,
and I was like, oh, now I know what to
call myself.
Speaker 2: Spaghetti Western, maybe a.
Speaker 3: Little spaghetti western rockabilly country blues music I really like
and that I've been writing for a long time, and
I've played in bands playing music I've written, and I'm
proud of, you know, every band I've been in. But
I moved to Auburn, Maine after living in Portland for
over twenty years, and Auburn, Maine's a little more central Maine, okay,
And I didn't really know anyone up there, and getting
a band together was just kind of a pain. And
then setting up practices in Portland with people willing to play,
it was just scheduling stuff. So I just started playing
on my own, just using my feet and my arms
and my voice, and I realized it's a lot less
hassle and it's a means to an end. I can
play my songs and I can agree to play anywhere
at the drop of a hat. I'll have to run
anything by a committee. I can do anything I want.
Speaker 1: That's been a consistent theme on the show over the
years with guests who who are doing a solo thing
who used to play in bands. Right, it's like, oh,
this is actually easier logistically.
Speaker 3: Oh it is. It's easier logistically, and you know, I
would I'm not against it. I would love to someday
have a band to play with. It's a lot. I
love playing standing up, but it's just, you know, money's
a thing, and I don't want to pay anybody. I
don't want to play without getting paid if they're playing,
if they're backing somebody up, and I get that. Yeah,
But for now, I'm having a blast just doing it myself,
packing up the cars. Sometimes I bring my dog yep,
you know. And I could go on weekend tours and yeah,
I don't. If I can do it, I can do it.
I don't have to run it by anybody.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, Do you miss Portland at all, because that's
a great that's a great scene in Portland there's always
a lot of good bands around. Sure, seems like, but
you don't miss it.
Speaker 3: No, Now, I miss a memory of what Portland was.
It's not what it was, and I mean it's a
great place, but just having lived there. When I lived there,
I was joking with somebody that there were five restaurants. Really,
oh there were maybe ten. Yeah, and it was you
could afford to live there. Yeah, it was dirtier, people
were maybe a little there was they were more rude. Okay,
it was it was just a little more fun. And uh,
you know that parable when they talk about the frog
and boiling water that doesn't realize it's boiling until it's
too late. That's kind of how I felt while I
was living there. I was like, wow, this water is
it's boiling.
Speaker 1: Interesting.
Speaker 3: I played. I mean, I'm playing there tonight. I'll be
at Geno's. Yeah, And so I'm there a couple of
times a month for shows or to see friends bands play.
And I have a lot of friends that live there.
But I don't miss living there.
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, No, that's good. It's good that you're happy
where you are. Oh yeah, that's awesome.
Speaker 3: I love Yeah, I like river Folk now.
Speaker 1: Do you think that's influenced what you do creatively? Like
or do you think if you were doing a solo
thing in Portland you'd be doing the same thing.
Speaker 3: Or I'd probably be doing the same thing. But I think,
you know, being up there, I wouldn't say I'm isolated,
but definitely left to my own devices. More as far
as like music, again, like playing alone, I'm just I
bounce ideas off the wall and back to me.
Speaker 1: Exactly. So what drew you to performing at prayers of
Nature or the listening room rather at listening room at
a look.
Speaker 3: Like a cool it looked like a cool place. I mean,
I'm I playing alone. It's a hustle. I'm I'm I
send out at least one email or message or something
a day to somebody, and uh, you know, sometimes you
hear back. Sometimes you hear back and there's enthusiasms. Sometimes
you hear back and you have to plead your case
to people of why you should be there to play.
But uh, in this in this case, I sent an
inquiry and I got a lot of enthusiasm back, which
right there, it's like, yeah, okay, I want to play
at this place, And yeah, it just looked cool, and
i'd never been to Wilton, New Hampshire.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you probably hear that a lot, right.
Speaker 2: Try to find the place tucked away. It's definitely what
you call a hidden gem. It's in a it's in
an art mill, so it's pretty cool once you find it.
Once people discover it, they're like, oh cool, you know. Yeah,
it's different sense so that you would find a weird
little nook.
Speaker 1: Right right. Has it changed much by the way since
you opened, because because I think if I remember correctly,
so you had been on the show when you were
either about to start or you had just started it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean with us, Yeah we just started it. Yeah,
you hadn't had it yet, okay, right right now. I've
had ten of them since I've last been here. Yeah yeah,
I thought six months have gone by already. And I
was like, well, come to an update, And then I
booked him and I was like, you want to come
with me?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: It's like, if.
Speaker 2: Anything, can you play your music and just talk about you?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, so he was.
Speaker 2: I was happy that he's physically with us today.
Speaker 1: Absolutely. Yeah.
Speaker 2: But I guess what's changed is my commitment to making
sure that the sound is as good as it can
be in the lighting, and because I'm recognizing that the
online presence is really important, absolutely, and it's been helpful
to me and exciting because I didn't really have much
optimism when I started. Really I didn't. I hadn't been
in the booking a venue scene in about three years.
I had taken a break. I had taken a break
because I was burnt out and I'd done it for
other people. I'd done it for myself. I'd done it
as a musician. I'd done it as a venue. Yeah,
I've done it as a nonprofit. I had done it.
I did it, and I was like, I'm done. And
that's when I took a break and focused on my
own music. So when I jump back into supporting other artists,
I was a little apprehensive because obviously it comes with
a lot of drama and a lot of egos and
I have to manage them and it affects my relationships,
and I just was went in really apprehensively and really guarded.
But the more I did it, every show I had,
I was like, yes, this is what I want. I
love this part of meeting such unique artists and being
able to support them and just making them feel good
about themselves made me feel good about myself, and I
think that finally shone through in the social media and
it resonated. Yeah, so I think that's what changed for
me personally. And I wish I could do it every weekend,
but I wouldn't have the fuel probably to do it.
So it's good. I just I got to set that
boundary with three and just make people wait, I guess
if they want to come do it.
Speaker 1: So you mentioned too, you're hearing from people. It sounds
like you're hearing from people all over the Northeast at
this point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, you know, and it's it's a bummer too,
because the second I recognize they're a little too far away,
I'm gonna have to have the conversation with them about
how we we don't offer a guarantee. I'm pretty transparent
about that. Yeah, but I will I I will hustle
for you and if you meet me halfway, we will
do what we can. And I don't take a cut
unless the room even sells out. So like, I'm not
here to take your money, I'm really here to share
your art. So yeah, for some people, though, that John
is just a little too far. You know, as much
as they want to come play, they're like, oh, man,
I can't do it. But you know, I will say
too something Caleb touched on, and then I'll shut up.
As you position myself. Whenever I reach out and try
to get bookings, not getting a response, I would rather
get a no.
Speaker 4: Oh.
Speaker 2: I would rather get oh, we're booked, or you know,
I'd rather get some kind of like confirmation that you
at least saw my stuff right, and like, if it's
not for you, you don't think it's a good fit, that's fine.
But I get so irritated wh I don't even get
a response. So I try to at least respond to people.
Even though I get a lot of inquiries. I will
respond to you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I will.
Speaker 2: Sometimes it's a no and for whatever reason, but I
will let you know so you can move about with
your bookings accordingly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, was there a point where you started to feel like, oh,
this is really going to work or this is going
to catch on more than I expected.
Speaker 2: I was surprised by the response. For musicians, I want
a more solid patronage, but that will just happen over time. Sure,
I recognize that and bringing people in that aren't normally
from here. Is helpful people willing to take the risk
and come out share their art with us, And you know,
in doing that, I've already gained just beginning Dan in there,
I had people from town that it never even knew
I existed down there, and they know Dan, so they
don't want to come back.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So you know, every once in a while there's people
in town that follow these artists that will come and
then they want to come back to more. So I'm
hoping by the end of the year I have a
solid crew.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fantastic.
Speaker 2: Now you know, twenty seats, you know I could do it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, that's fantastic. Yeah, Caleb, is this well, what
is the show actually? When?
Speaker 2: Saturday? Next week?
Speaker 1: Next Saturday?
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's the nineteenth nineteenth.
Speaker 1: Will this be the most kind of unique situation for
you in terms of where you've played, because this is
obviously you know, there's nothing quite like you know, the
listening room, this is, this is different.
Speaker 3: It's definitely the most unique I think of the summer. Yeah,
for sure, to have like my own basically like my
own recital concert. The rest of the shows I'm playing
this year or on bills with other artists, which is great.
It is fun, and they'll be you know, thirty five
forty minute sets, or I have a couple two or
three hour nights where I'm just you know, playing in
the corner somewhere, which is fine. Yeah, And but this
will be like, yeah, this is probably the only like
solo kind of recital to an interested audience that's there
just for and I'll you know, I have more time
to you know, explain myself by you know, talk talk
about the song. The song, Yeah, talk about the songs.
I can touch on that a little bit sometimes, but
I'll actually have time to do that, or or play
songs I don't play all that often. Like I've been
thinking about, Oh, well I have you know, I've been
making a list of stuff if I need to practice
that I haven't played in a while that I'm looking
forward to to playing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, yeah, Oh very cool. Well we should
play another one of these studio tracks that you sent
us and we had talked what was we had talked
off here about one specifically.
Speaker 3: Sad sci fi part one?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, tell us about this?
Speaker 3: Well this My favorite genre of movies or television or
or books is sad science fiction. It's science fiction that's
you know, usually depressing because it's maybe a little less fiction,
more nonfiction like apocalyptics. Yeah, you know, if you ever
watched The Outer Limits, like The Outer Limits was one
of my it's one of my favorite shows. It's like
Twilight Zone, but it's purely science fiction. The episodes are longer,
it's slower, darker. Yeah, and a lot of times it
ends just on a really down beat, right right, And
I just love that. I mean, that's what like fizz really.
I mean, it's it's a horror. We can find joy
here and there, but I mean we shouldn't be here.
It's a struggle until you're dead. And that's the one
thing we have guaranteed to us, right. And this is
a song I wrote just the the the idea of,
you know, we need optimistic people, we need people looking
out for everyone, and I appreciate that, and and I
honor that I am not one of those people, and
and just the idea of of what what I see.
I mean, the song is less fiction, I guess that
I think. But like this this we're circling the drain,
I guess. And that's where.
Speaker 1: On that note, well, by the way, Maria Vanish and
the chat room says outer Limits one of my favorites
can be so scary.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I've.
Speaker 1: Always been aware of the show, but I don't think
I've ever actually seen the show.
Speaker 3: It's it's fantastic.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I might have to check it out. It sound
like something I would be interested in. Yeah, all right,
so we will. Uh so let's give this suspend. And
by the way, where are these uh these are from?
You have an album or.
Speaker 3: I have a I have a brand new album out
called Cold Heart, Volume one. It was recorded live in
the studio in Somerville, mass by my friend Sean Kerran
at the Napoleon Complex. And you just set up a
bunch of mics, hit record and I just blew through
my set, and uh, it was an incredible experience. And
it sounded so good that that was live, that was recording. Yeah,
it's all live, no overdubs, and I was recorded in
the studio.
Speaker 1: Kind of doesn't surprise me because there's a there's a
certain raw energy to to uh, you know, because I
listened to the tracks that you sent and there's there's
kind of a raw energy to them. It sounds it
sounds like it was recorded, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was great, no headphones. You just put a
monitor in front of my face, and.
Speaker 2: I feel like he mixed it well though. When you
said that, he's like the energy is there, But I
was like, wow, this is actually I can't. I was
actually having a hard time discerning. That's great though, in
a good way.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he knows what he's doing, you know, clearly, clearly.
And yeah, so a new album out And if you
you know Crying Caleb, if you just google that, you'll
find a bunch of stuff and you can find it everywhere.
Speaker 1: Excellent, excellent. All right, so let's give this a spend.
So this is sad sci fi part one. Yeah, this
is Crying Caleb. Check this out.
Speaker 6: No one he's coming to save us.
Speaker 7: There's nothing out there, none of the man someone st
difference to be made.
Speaker 6: The future is my lives be silent? What is one true?
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 6: Is the only thing that's for your lautside of that
is God?
Speaker 5: Is we're so concerned now we well.
Speaker 6: How we will. No one.
Speaker 7: Is coming to war, couss, no one is coming to
teach chums, and no one will remember the truelos that
week face these days they are also special. That how going.
No one knows the way, nobody knows no.
Speaker 5: Way, living another one way street, turnball and I makes
me what time is relative?
Speaker 6: We spend it thinking other things. Wait, Ama thinks.
Speaker 4: Wait, no one is coming to say buzz.
Speaker 6: We know one.
Speaker 7: Is coming to care, No one is coming to stop us,
No one he's coming to collect.
Speaker 1: There we go, sorry, said sci Fi part one. That
is crying Caleb, and that is what's.
Speaker 3: The name of the album? We get cold Heart Volume one?
Speaker 1: Cold Heart Volume one, So there's going to be a
volume two, I assume.
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right.
Speaker 1: I was wondering when when I hear somebody call something
part one, only because in the eighties when Hall and
Oates released Rock and Soul Part one, they never put
out a part two. So whenever I hear that yet, yeah, yes,
but it ain't gonna happen now apparently.
Speaker 2: They're all upset, but Oasis is back together, so it's fine.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so anything anything can happen tomorrow. Hollano, No, that
song I was I was commenting off air. You know
it's dark and it's sad, but it's also funny. Oh
you know, I like the I like the sense of humor,
you know, very dark humor.
Speaker 3: But hilarious, no going to laugh.
Speaker 1: And I guess it's funny because it's true, right, I think.
Speaker 2: Too, what you what you did too with that song
is you kind of made it timeless?
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: It's one of those ones where I'm like, oh, is
he talking about right now or is he talking about?
Like what is it? What is it?
Speaker 3: Exactly?
Speaker 2: He's putting hitting the nail on the head on your right.
You didn't you didn't put it in a box, which
I thought was great too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. Yeah, timeless, not only in terms of
the lyrics, but in terms of the production. Because you
could have told me that came from any point and
I would have believed you, you know what I mean, Like,
if you told me that was recorded in the seventies,
I would have believed you. But but it was recorded now,
and I obviously recorded a few months it was recorded
a few months ago. Yeah, and and it's but so
it's got that timeless quality to it, which I think
is is really cool. You know. I also want to
ask you, so you're also saying off air about because
you're you're effectively I don't know if you even like
the term maybe not one man band, but you were
saying off air, I thought this was a really interesting,
uh comment, that people will kind of suggest other solo
artists who do kind of what you do all the time,
and and you avoid listening to those.
Speaker 3: It's uh yeah, I mean, if I hear it, it's fine,
and I of course appreciate what they're doing because I'm
doing the same thing. But I don't want it to
get in my head, yeah kind of thing. Maybe it's
a I don't know, it's it. I don't like, I
don't want to be too influenced by the techniques of
what other people do. I can definitely appreciate them like
I and if I'm playing a show with one, of
course it's fun to watch, but like, I don't spend
my time listening like seeking out other one man bands
and listening to them. Yeah, you know, for me, the
one man band thing, it's a means to an end.
It's just I want to play my songs, but I
don't want to play acoustic. Yeah, solo thing, which is great.
I know so many people who are good at it.
I am not good at it. I want to rock
and roll, and this is how I can do it,
And this is how I can perform my songs. And
I love to perform, so yeah, yeah, it's it's just
a way to do it.
Speaker 1: So when you're playing live, so you have an electric right,
so you're not yeah, so you're not doing the singer
songwriter thing with an acoustic No, and then you're stomping
for the percussion, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I have a bass drum, a high hat, a guitar,
and an amp. Yeah, and you know, I that's how
I do it. Yeah. I can load in and out
of anywhere usually within ten minutes. Yeah, it doesn't take
me long to set up and yeah, I go.
Speaker 1: You know, venue must love that.
Speaker 3: They do well. It's funny. I'll play a lot of
I play a lot of places, like smaller places, and
they'll be they'll hear like the recorded material and they'll
be like, you might be too loud, and I promise
them I am not.
Speaker 4: Like.
Speaker 3: I'm very self aware of my tone how I want
to sound, and I have done a lot of work
to make sure I can capture that tone at pretty
much any volume, different wattage. So if I'm playing, if
I were playing in here, I could make it work.
You know in this and I say in here you
can't see it, but it's a little room or on
a big stage, like I can adapt so I can
play smaller places and it's still sounds like me, but
it's not going to stab anyone in the ear.
Speaker 1: So was it challenging to learn to do that? Because well,
obviously so you actually this is something you mentioned off
air too. You've also been a drummer, right, yes, so
obviously with drums, you know, that's the one instrument where
typically someone's using all four of their limbs. So maybe
it wasn't challenging. I mean, was it challenging learn to
do well?
Speaker 3: No, I mean there was a little bit of time,
but it came pretty natural because I tap my foot
when I play. I'm really excited to tempo and feeling
like I guess I hate the word but groove of
what I'm doing. But I was just talking with a
friend of mine the other day. While I'm doing it,
I'm not thinking about everything I'm doing all at once.
It's automatic, like it's just I'm just doing it. Like
and if I'm singing, my concentration is on the singing.
If I'm playing guitar solo, my concentrations on the guitar solo,
what my feet are doing. I mean, I'm aware of them,
but I'm not. If I start thinking about it, I
will crash. And it's funny because I am I'm not
a very coordinated person.
Speaker 1: Really.
Speaker 3: I joke with my old lady all the time, like
gravity is a lot stronger around me than anywhere else.
Drop stuff, always bumping into things. Oh it look like
a moron when I'm loading stuff around. But when I'm
sitting playing, yeah, it seems very graceful.
Speaker 1: It's like I am just not I can absolutely relate
to that. Yeah. So yeah, so when you yeah, I
remember the first time I saw somebody do anything like
that was uh, John Hot years ago. Boy, this must
have been like twenty years ago. I saw John Hyatt
live and conquered and and it was cool. You know,
he doesn't and he doesn't have like a little drum
kit or anything. He would just stand out with his guitar,
but he had there was a microphone obviously on the floor.
They had the floor micd and he would, you know,
start tapping his foot and it just sounded so cool though. Yeah,
when he when he started doing that, because it it
surprises the audience a little bit too, because you know,
he's just out there with his guitar, so you think
he's just because it was an acoustic show. Obviously, he
did a lot of tours where he played with the
full band, but this particular tour is just an acoustic
tour and it was just him the guitar, so you
almost don't expect it. And then he starts tapping and
there's obviously a mic on the floor. It's like, oh,
that sounds really good.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's great. I mean, I've seen before I
started doing this, I had seen a few one man
bands perform, and I remember loving it, but also thinking
like I could do that. M like I could do that,
and I'd even tell people, you know, I could do that. Yeah,
And eventually I did that well during COVID times my
band wasn't playing, of course, yeah, and I got really bored.
So that was when I started like practicing it and
doing it and putting up videos and stuff. And then
once things started opening back up, I started playing with
the drummer again and that was fine. And then, like
I said, when I moved up to Auburn, Maine, I
decided to just do it one man band, but no,
I mean people have been doing it since forever. Yeah,
I mean, it's it's a I like it. It's kind
of a Carneye Carnie trick. You know, it's it's it's
a sideshow thing, and it's it's I try not the
I'm serious. The songs there can be serious. They're funny
and like, I'm serious about that, but I also realize
it's pretty ridiculous and it's fun it's funny. Sure, it's
funny to watch. Ye, some people when they're watching it,
they're just like, oh yeah, it's.
Speaker 1: Just I love it.
Speaker 2: It comes out of one person. Yeah, I think it's cool.
You've surrounded yourself with ways, in different ways to express yourself,
and I really enjoy it.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean, but it is I understand. I
recognize that it's pretty funny.
Speaker 1: We should play another one. Let's see should we play?
Speaker 5: What?
Speaker 1: Should we play?
Speaker 3: Oh? How She Dances is a fun one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to learn about why you covered that,
because I don't know if you want to talk about
an hour after, But like I was hoping that that
would be the song i'd learn more about.
Speaker 3: Yeah, i'd heard, Oh yeah, I had heard it's I
didn't write this, you know. It's I'd heard one of
my favorite artists, Taff Falco and the Panther Burns, do
this song, and I remember I just loved it. I
loved the whole Spieley gives and I remember thinking like,
I could do this song, yeah, a long time ago,
and then I like looked it up and realized, like,
you know, I didn't think it was his song, but
turns out it's just this old vaudevillian song from the
like nineteen fifteen or something like that, and I was like, well,
and this doesn't belong to anybody. I could definitely do
this song. And you know, I think, like any song
like that, it gets changed. So this is my version.
And I grew up in Old Orchard Beach, Maine, which
you know, I'm part Carney. Like that was downtown Old Orchard.
That's a lot of us who grew up there, especially
like the time I grew up there, we started working downtown.
I had my first job downtown hustling Taurus when I
was like twelve years old, you know, And a lot
of it's hustling Taurus. Some of it's just it's like
food service. Some of them is trying to rope people
in just rip them off, playing an impossible game that
they're not going to win, you know. And I just
the whole art of the circus and the traveling people
just fleecing roubes. I just think it's hilarious and like
humans are so easily manipulated and tricked into doing dumb
stuff if they're told, yes, this is the right decision.
Speaker 1: Why is Old Orchard Beach like that specifically, just because well, it's.
Speaker 3: A tourist town, but it's one of the places in
the Northeast. It's a working class vacation spot. It's where
working people can afford to go, where working people can
afford to take their families and keep them entertained. There's
games and rides. It's cheaper. I mean, it's not cheap,
but it's cheaper than going to a gun Quit or
Kenny Bunk or Booth Bay Harbor or Kadia or anywhere
like that. It's it's it's kind of low grade entertainment
for regular folks, okay, And so you get a lot
of you know, working class people. You get some affluent people,
but most for the most part, it's just regular folks.
Speaker 1: Oh, that's interesting.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 1: I was partly curious too, because I think I've only
been there once. But the first time I ever saw
Kiss was it older?
Speaker 3: Oh there you go. Yeah, Yeah, that's a good band
for that town.
Speaker 1: There you go interesting. Yeah, all right, So we're gonna
give this a spend. So this is See I didn't
even know this was a cover. Yeah when I when
I listened to it.
Speaker 3: It's royalty. I wouldn't record a song that wasn't.
Speaker 2: I didn't know if you paid.
Speaker 1: Oh no, yeah, all right, cool, all right, let's give
this a spin. This is how she dances, and this
is crime Caleb.
Speaker 6: Ladies and gentlemen are right this way.
Speaker 8: See the greatest conglomeration of curiosities ever gathered under one
canvas tent. See the Indian rubber Boy. See two ton
Tiny the back of Lady. See Prince Jujububbo the sword swallower.
He is also the snake Charmer.
Speaker 9: See the Lovely.
Speaker 8: Princess Karma performer spectacular dance sismond It high above the
heads of the audience.
Speaker 6: On a palet's surface, no larger than a silver dive.
Speaker 8: She performs her dancity accompaniment to a strange Tom Tom orchestra,
lit by a myriad array of thousands of tiny electric
light bombs.
Speaker 6: Every nerve, every muscle, every fiber of her body is
shimmy's like jelly in the bowl.
Speaker 8: So bring your friends, your neighbors, and your children, or
they may reproach you in.
Speaker 6: Later life for this un caught, for lack of their education.
Speaker 8: It only cost a dime two nichols one tenth part
of a dollar.
Speaker 6: You may receive instructions, but push don't show. There's room
for one and all.
Speaker 4: Bucko man stood outside another great side show.
Speaker 6: Wild to ride right this week we have.
Speaker 8: The main attraction with us today, the dancing princess Lemental.
Speaker 6: She don't move her feet at all, saying she drew
up the suns in two distractions.
Speaker 8: Well hire room Green pulled out a time, he said, boys,
I'm here and a.
Speaker 6: Half the time, so give me easy now front as
far as I'm al. Willy stayed in there four.
Speaker 8: Hours about and last they threw Paul higher out.
Speaker 6: And as they did, she dances. Know how she dances.
Speaker 8: I've never seen such a room in my life.
Speaker 6: It beats that dancing costole what boys, you all and
stay at home and of all your cha chen to
your She wiggles, Oh, she wiggles, she shimmy is just
like chili in both.
Speaker 8: She is never steaming streets of cairos.
Speaker 3: I've known from a baby.
Speaker 6: She's from my.
Speaker 1: Town.
Speaker 6: Like this way, ladies and.
Speaker 8: Gentlemen, Right this way to see the incredible despicable geek
captured in the wilds of Old Orchard Beach Main, where
he was incarcerated in the attic by his parents at
the tender age of fourteen. In order to survive, he
learned to eat my rats, live chickens, and other living organisms.
Speaker 6: Yes, friends, heats.
Speaker 1: Oh that is Oh how she dances. That is Crime
Caleb from the album Cold Heart Volume one. Hey, where's
the name come from? By the way, Crime Caleb.
Speaker 3: Good question. Well, one of my I don't really believe
in heroes, but let's say I was someone who believed
in a hero. Sure one of them would be Scream
and Jay Hawkins Scream and Jay Howland Wolf. There's another
guy I like named Lonesome Wyatt. I like the you
know that title in Yeah my name you know it's
Caleb Aaron Colthard, and Colthard is one of those names
like in a loud room. If if I tell people
my name, they say what was that? And I'm like,
exactly right right, And it was actually my friend Heather,
who painted the cover of the new album. When she
learned my real last last name, she was like cold
heart and I was like, yeah, exactly, oh you know yeah,
And I had heard that before. An old teacher in
school used to say I had a cold heart, but no, yeah, crying.
Caleb was just it's just I needed a name. Yeah,
and that was came up with it and I asked
a few people. I was like, what do you think
of that? And they're like that's good, Yeah, all right,
yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, by the way, Miriam said in the chat room,
feeling a little Tom Waits thing in this, is he
an influence on you? I didn't think of that until
Miriam said that, but yeah, I can. I'm gonna hear it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean to to an extent. There's like three
Tom Waits records I really like, Yeah and yeah, I
like those three albums.
Speaker 1: He's a unique.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, he's not my favorite, but I definitely
the songs I like by him, I really really really
like Yeah. But I'm I don't know if he's so
much an influence. Maybe just it's in there somewhere. We
know he's not a hero, no heroes. Yeah, it's good time.
Speaker 2: I felt like I had, like I told when Dan came,
and I feel the same way about you.
Speaker 3: I woke up.
Speaker 2: I was in my house last night, and you're ready
for bed as like musical Santa's.
Speaker 3: Coming tomorrow, musical.
Speaker 4: See.
Speaker 2: You may not be my hero, but you're my musical Santa.
I couldn't sleep last night. I was I haven't actually
met him. We've been talking online, so I booked him
and just getting to know each other. But I'm like,
I actually get to meet him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh that's cool. That's cool, very cool. Now, what
about so when is uh have you started working on
Coldhart Volume two yet?
Speaker 3: Or well it's I okay. I put on an album
called night Hoss a few years ago and that was
like my first solo record, and after that, over the
last few years, I've recorded a lot and then that
was going to be the next album. But and then
out of nowhere, I got a show in Massachusetts and
I decided to make a weekend of it and book
another show while I was down there and studio time
and recorded and I was like, boom, that's the record.
So I just put that out. But I still have
all these recordings I've done that I really like.
Speaker 1: OK.
Speaker 3: I think those are probably gonna come out in some
shape or form. But cold Heart Volume two, I don't
even know if that will be the next album, but
there will be one. I imagine it will be another
one man band, like live in the studio, once I
get enough songs that I want to use that way,
because the other stuff I record, like my first album
night Hoss and singles I've put out. When I record those,
I actually record. I play drums, and I play bass,
and I do guitar and couples. Like I record it
as a whole band, I'm still playing everything. I might
have a guest play organ or something. I don't know
how to play on it. But the live show is
one man band. And that's why this new album is
the closest to like, this is what I sound like live.
Speaker 1: Yeah you know, yeah, no, that makes sense. That makes
sense when you do some of the shows that you do,
if you have to play a long time, so you
mix in some covers, originals.
Speaker 3: Yes I do. I do you know old country songs?
I I don't do anything I don't like, that's for sure.
But I'll do a song I do Bela Lugosi's Dead
by the Bow House, a Forest by the Cure Echo
and the Bunnyman Morrissey.
Speaker 2: You did one recently that or I don't know if
you did it recently, but I watched it recently with
the opening for Rocky Horror Pictures show.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Rocky Horror. That's a fun one, the science
fiction double feature. Yeah, I'd do that one. Yeah, Kinks.
You know, there's some songs I've known my whole life,
but I've never actually played that. Like I played a
show in Lewiston, near where I live, and I was
playing a two hour show and on the way there
I heard a whole lot of shaking going on by
Jerry Lee Lewis. Now I've heard that song thousands of
times probably sure, and I was like, I could play this.
So while I was playing, I just start playing it.
Oh really, it's not it's three chords. Just had to
remember the words and that was a blast, you know,
like I Jerry Lee Lewis, Little Richard like you know
stuff I do. Yeah, I do a lot of covers.
Speaker 1: It sounds like it sounds like though some of the
covers you do might be there might be instances where
people who are there don't necessarily realize their covers right,
because some of these not in not standard issue covers.
Speaker 3: I mean, I often I try not to take you know,
I'll mention like the songs written by so and so
or afterwards, I'll say it whether they hear it or not.
But it's great if I'm playing for a group of like,
you know, working dudes who like country music, and then
I throw an echo and the Bunnyman song they've never heard,
but they like it, or a cure song, but they
like it and they don't even realize it's a like
if they heard the original, they probably like, what right?
I really enjoy that? Or the flip side of it,
doing you know a country song that a different audience
might not.
Speaker 2: That you could do a sick rap cover if you
found the right rap song.
Speaker 3: I used to, but in this day and age, I
don't do the ones I used to do because a
sense of humor. Sure, and of course there's nothing malicious
in in my my but I'm like, I'm not gonna
do those anymore.
Speaker 1: Understood, Yeah, understood, Yeah, yeah, oh, the time goes quickly.
I want to make sure we I want to make
sure we get one more song in. But I also
want to remind everybody, especially for people who are just
joining us, about the show coming up at at Prayers,
I keep doing that a listening room. I think I'm
suffering from adult on set dyslexia. Forgive me the listening
room at Prayers of Nature.
Speaker 2: But you can find everything at Prayers of Nature dot com.
So I've made it a little difficult for you.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's maybe that's why I keep inspiring.
Speaker 3: In my brain.
Speaker 2: You can reserve seats for as little as twelve dollars.
You can come see Caleb, which is quite a steal
if you ask me. And it's September, I'm sorry. Saturday,
July nineteenth. The doors open at six thirty, the show
starts at seven. Okay, yeah, Prayers at Nature dot com.
You can reserve a seat. I won't turn people away
if they show up at the door. It's just if
you want to be able to sit down. Yeah, you're
going to want to go online and reserve a seat,
but if you show up, you know I'm not going
to be like, go away, right right, I'm just gonna Yeah,
I call it the Wallflower Pass. You still pay, but
you're going to be standing. So yeah, yeah, I'm really
excited about it. We also have I should mention before Caleb,
there is two other acts. There's one on Thursday called
Blame It On Sally. It's a duo upright bass guitar.
The woman who plays upright bass is actually an artist
at the mill that I'm in, So she's an art
professor and she's a painter. So she's going to be
opening her studio for her show for people to show
up early and enjoy her art before she actually performs.
So that's Blame It On Sally on Thursday. And then
Tom Russo, who you've met, my cousin, is performing.
Speaker 1: He's been on a few times.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's coming that Friday, and once again they all
start at seven, open at six thirty. And then yeah,
Caleb on the nineteen oh and it was Caleb.
Speaker 1: Yeah, excellent, excellent, And Caleb, what should people know about?
Where to find you online? Where to get your albums?
Speaker 3: And oh, just you can google crying Caleb, You're gonna
find me. But I'm on all the social media stuff,
well not all of them, but not OnlyFans, not on OnlyFans.
Speaker 1: It's hard to be on all of them. There's so many.
Speaker 3: But I I say, you know, Instagram, Facebook, you can
find Crying Caleb YouTube. I have a lot of stuff
on YouTube that I don't put on the other stuff.
And you know I have a band camp. But you
can find you can find me. Yeah, you can find me.
It's not hard to find ye. People who say they
can't find me, it's like you didn't right, right, Yeah,
And I don't blame you. This is who's got time
this work. It's hard, man.
Speaker 1: I've always I've always thought it's funny when somebody says, oh, yeah,
I looked for you online. I couldn't find you. It's
like you try, you couldn't find a guy named Matt Connorton. Like,
how many Matt Connortons do you think there are out there?
There is one other one, but he's my uncle, so
he doesn't count. Oh uncle Matt, Yeah, Uncle Natt. Well,
very good, and we will. So we'll close out with
this track to Live and Love in the Shadow of Fear.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, it's an ominous title. Yeah, and this is
an episode of the Outer Limits, The New Outer Limits.
My girlfriend always says, stop calling it the new Outer
Limits because it's from the nineties, because the original show
was in the sixties.
Speaker 1: Oh, I didn't even realize that there's going to reboot.
Speaker 3: Yeah there was in the nineties, Okay, but this episode,
particular episode is about someone who realizes there's something wrong
with the moon and that the sun probably went nova
in that as morning come, everyone's going to be incinerated.
So he decides to spend his last night on Earth
coming clean with the Galley has a crush on that
works at the bookstore, and he asks her out on
a date and you know, spends what they believe to
be their last night on Earth together, but she doesn't
realize the Earth is gonna be gone in the morning.
When she finds out, she's kind of angry, like why
would I want to spend the rest of my life
with you? Like I barely know you. But it's Outer Limits,
so it gets more complicated. But anyway, I just love
that idea of the end coming and just knowing when
it's coming and being like, what do you want to do,
And it's like, well, I know what i'd like to do.
I'd like to spend it with the woman I love.
So that's what this song.
Speaker 1: Oh, very cool, very cool, crying Caleb, thank you so much,
thank you, and of course Darling Hill, thank you. Oh
and thank you for the wonderful sticker too. I'll hold
that up for people watching online so they can see
it one more time for the listening room at Prayers
of Nature. Set right yet, it very good, and we
will close out today's show with this. This is to
live in love in the shadow of fear, And this
is Crian Caleb.
Speaker 3: I want to spend.
Speaker 6: His night with you.
Speaker 7: Because in the morning it'll all be gone.
Speaker 8: Nothing really mans with nothing.
Speaker 3: He's no more now, nothing is no.
Speaker 9: More spilling weird.
Speaker 6: And old youth in my art.
Speaker 10: While in all schools dart into closed eyes, we see
shimmer rings, sills, breadles as the lightning exists forth the
last time, the futures is.
Speaker 6: Silas and it's cool. It's a hostile where we won't
be long. So it's spend the night doing.
Speaker 3: Those things we saw love to.
Speaker 6: Do, like watching movies and telling Joe's.
Speaker 1: Spending me.
Speaker 6: And Aldien in my arms.
Speaker 4: While it all.
Speaker 6: Starts to close nyes, we see shimmericks.
Speaker 10: Still over as the light exists for the last time.
Speaker 6: It was the last time. U n I fading as
on into.
Speaker 9: The Toparness un I, burning as once into as ashes,
un I fading as once into the.
Speaker 6: Boy, U n I, bursting as one as one hard