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Speaker 1: All right, welcome to six year Agenda.

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Speaker 2: I'm your host Andrew here again today to talk about

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what they want. And today I'm joining with a special guest,

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Matthew Eric. We've got a little bit of a uh

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I'm a surprise live. We planned this a while ago.

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I was one hundred percent sure, so I didn't schedule

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it last night. So for the listeners, this would be

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a little treat for you today, a little bonus episode.

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Speaker 1: Welcome in, Matthew and how you doing today.

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Speaker 3: I'm good, Andrew. It's a it's a pleasure. I'm glad

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to be on and just in chatting with you a

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little bit before we hit record. I'm really looking forward

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to this. I'm seeing that our minds are really looking

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at the same kind of patterns and the same we're

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on the same the same scent of this of the

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of the critter that we're that we're chasing. So I'm

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curious to see where this goes.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, dude, Yeah, I noticed that, uh, you know on

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X I follow you in there.

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Speaker 1: Great follow by the way, let everybody know where they

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can find you.

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Speaker 3: Well, but first, I don't remember the name of my

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ex account. It's like erit underscore Matthew or something or

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erit underscore Matt But I I at X, but I

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don't use it that often, so that's too. Sure. Yeah,

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I use a lot more of the uh uh telegram

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for for a lot of my social media stuff. But

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I'll send you some links and media can share that

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in the discs.

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Speaker 1: I'll put them in the comments. Definitely.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you've got a really really intellectual mind, but you're

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in like this space and I love people that can

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kind of talk to that that aren't full on kind

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of paranoid schitzos, that are able to kind of, you know,

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process this information and an intellectual because that's very important,

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I think. So, Yeah, I'm excited and we kind of

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I noticed you were talking a little bit about the

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traditionalist movement in a way regarding on X. I forgot

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exactly what the topic was, and I saw your point

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and I was like, man, I need to have a

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conversation with him because he gets it. And it's kind

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of this traditionalist movement that's been rising through Quanon and

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kind of through the Trump Bannon kind of sphere.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, so I'm excited to talk about what.

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Speaker 2: You think that is, where it came from and and yeah.

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Speaker 3: Well, definitely, man, I mean it's something that I'm I'm

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not I'm not adept yet fully at the foundational works

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of the leading traditionalists, the Renee Guenel's, the Julisavolaz, whose

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ideas have shaped so much of the thing that has

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become known as alt rights, whatever that is that Steven

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Bannon has chosen to sort of shape his identity around.

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But he's not alone. There's a lot of other similar

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influencers who have been positioned, I would say, to play

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a guiding role in the zeitgeist, in shaping and directing

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the flow of the zeitgeist towards something which I think

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looks a lot like medievalism, but maybe with some some

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technological characteristics of the twenty first century, but has a

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lot of the ethos of the medieval standards.

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Speaker 2: Of Renaissance, m Renaissance, medieval pre Renaissance. Okay, yeah, I

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was just I was only asking because they hold some

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kind of from what I've read, like some like Enlightenment

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style ideologies.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, well, I think a lot of what they've

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extracted from the Enlightenment are elements of the the counter Renaissance.

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So the Renaissance was really I think the foundation of

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the thing that they that these traditionalists call my modernity,

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which they don't like. And you know, when when we

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say traditionalists, I'm assuming your viewers, having listened to you,

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probably have a our a depth with their language, and

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they don't they know that we don't just mean people

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who like traditional values.

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Speaker 2: Right, not just conservative tradition conservatives as they call it,

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but more traditionalists where they reject all modernity for a well,

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a spiritual hierarchy, a priest class of kings that people

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that know, you know, the adepts and the.

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Speaker 3: Profane exactly, yeah, and and the the the masses are

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expected to uh be happy but obediently happy in a

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sacred form of superstition, a superstition that brings about a

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childlike reverence of the unknown. Right that that, and it's

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a very condescending, patronizing way of thinking about human society

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at large and human nature in general. Because the idea

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is knowledge makes us more corrupt, the pursuit of knowledge

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of it makes us more egotistical, It makes us become believed,

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it convinces us. The more knowledge we get, says somebody

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who's who's following this line of thinking, that we feel

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more godlike, more egotistical, we lack our humility, which makes

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us more Christian, We're more uh, you know, I guess holy.

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be a lid placed on the desire to pursue the unknown,

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and instead we should just be happy with the reverential

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awe of superstition, of the sacred myths that keep a

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big sort of like metaphysical wall in place between our

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ability to actually like know what the universe is organized

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by its laws, what the Creator actually has in store

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or creation, which is what I think when I think

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of real science and real modernity. I don't think of

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it as like this cold, detached thing of human egos

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getting more powerful and trying to become God. That's that's

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bad science. That's that's more a witchcraft and in calling

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itself science. In my mind, real science should be the

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pursuit of God's will, the laws of the Creator that

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the Creator deemed the best laws to organize all the

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flow of all creation, which includes ourselves and our internal constitution,

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or our love of justice or love of conscience. These

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sorts of things I think are part of science, which

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is why all great scientists when you actually read their writings,

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they're all devoted, devoted. They see their religion like they

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see their science like a religious prayer. Whether it's Kepler,

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whether it's libniz Uh, it's a whether it's it's mentallyev

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in Russia, their break their breakthroughs, are contingent upon their

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faith in God's noble and good creation. So the modernists

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reject all of that. They they just sorry the traditionalists

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to reject all of that, and they choose, they choose

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to define science around the way the Enlightenment philosophers like

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John Locke have had defined science, which is this old,

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rigid thing detached from the soul. So they create this

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false constort because John Locke never discovered shit, all, never

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attributed to anything positive to the human body of knowledge

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except a bunch of theories that we're all sick about

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the blank slate and why we have no soul. But

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they love that, so they create this scarecrow right around

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the perversion of science, the perversion of the Renaissance called

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the Enlightenment. And then they say that is the embodiment

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of what progress is, and that's why we we must

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do everything to reject it. And they got this whole

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set logical backflips that they build up in book after

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book to sort of add more beat on the bone.

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hierarchical structure of a priest class of adepts, and a

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lot of this comes out of the synarchist movement of

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the nineteenth century. And if you looked into the synarchy,

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no I haven't. There's this guy named Alexandle sat Eve

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who was a fellow traveler. He's an ocultist, high level traveler,

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a fellow traveler of what's his name, Eli fas Levy

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himself was carrying out black magic rituals with written He

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was a French defrogt priests who created a whole gnostic

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movement to infiltrate And I mean there's already something bad

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inside of the Catholic Church, but he just really amplified it. Yeah,

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and he developed this notion of a society organized around

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a secret, invisible priest class called Synarchism, which came to

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foundations for Lancaus the Pappus, the French occultist, who is

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like a leading figure within the Martinist Free Masonic Orders

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who advised Nicholas the Second who brought in the Protocols

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of Zion into Russia.

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Speaker 1: That okay, so this is like cosmism. It kind of right.

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Speaker 3: Overlaps the Boganovs, it overlaps the cosmos. So I think

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that there were a number of cosmists who were initiated

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into this order.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 3: It's something that I'm just beginning to do preliminary research

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on though, so I'm not going to like write publicly

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about this until I really but it seems like that's

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where the the trail is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm pretty deep into this aspect of it. Actually,

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I see how it permeates. So you've okay, so they

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come off like they don't want to mix the metaphysical

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with science. But everything I read I've read from like

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Dugan and these guys, is that they that that's what

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we've lost in modernity, is that we're too materialistic and

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we don't add in this metaphysical aspect to our to

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our kind of thinking. But it's going to be confined

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to the priest class because other people don't know.

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Speaker 1: How to think for themselves.

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Speaker 2: So, as you said, you generate this awe for knowledge

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or you know, that's kind of for the masses, whereas

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the real knowledge gets bestowed to the priest class and

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they hand it down, so they're kind of the gatekeepers

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of knowledge in this new kind of thing. Instead of

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everybody having the chance to go do the scientific method

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and figure out inventions or science, they keep it regarded

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for the you know, the the adepts, the initiates.

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Speaker 1: Is what it kind of comes off to is for.

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Speaker 2: Me, which is this resurgence of that old kind of

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of of they're they're they're pushing the metaphysics with science

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while also rejecting it to the masses.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, right, so exactly when I said that, they they

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they want the masses to have this sacred superstition. They

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want to they want them to have this idea of

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just looking at the stars and not and just being

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in sacred awe of the unknown, because you're dealing with

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the transcendental, you're dealing with something which which speaks of

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the divine. When you look up at the night sky

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and you see the beauty of the stars. Yes, but

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they want it to end there, right, and so people

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should be satisfied with just the awe. Now for the

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for the upper initiates, yeah, they it's the fevers of

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actual control, the technology that's going to control the masses,

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and the technology that's going to enter face between human

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beings and the universe at large, that should be reserved

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for an elite, following the logic of Francis Bacon or

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idea of what science is, he's like, it's not really

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about truth, it's about power. He's telling the truth in

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YouTube clips. You know, when he speaks of the institution

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of science, it is literally about creating models that will

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express power for a governing class. And he says, and

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individual scientists might care about the truth, but science is

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an institution in his mind. It's very much like Mustafa Monde.

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That's actually the I think one of the things that

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he seems to be the thing that the traditionals hate

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is vall Hariri. But I actually they share a lot

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in common. But I think what they all agree on

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is what all this Huxley lays out archetypically within that

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extremely influential novella, A Brave New World, with the characters

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who seem to be polar opposites of each other, John

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Savage and Mustapha Monde, right, and in it they represent

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two seemingly opposing dipoles, and yet they agree on core fundamentals. Yes,

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and so those are the two paths that humans are

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expected to fall into. Right, which is a false choice.

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There's much healthier.

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Speaker 2: It leads you towards the same place regardless, you know,

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like they are going to the same society, the style

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of hierarchy. And I've been trying to point this out

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to people like Courtney Turner, who you know, we'll talk

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about the technocratic plea state and everything, but as soon

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as it gets to this point where I say, it's

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not just the Douganists. The Duganists have the same agenda

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as the Zionists, even though they're anti Zionists. They want,

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you know, Turkey to leave NATO, they want the West

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to fall, they want you know, they have similar agendas,

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and it leads to the same place. And when you know,

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like Dugan's kind of into the kabbala, I think that

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you know, Israel's ran by, you know, obviously dark cabalists.

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it seems to me that we have one side that's

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turning themselves into the villain, right, the Zionists camp, and

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Speaker 3: Yes, formula is very important as an organizing principle for

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the oligarchy to manage themselves. Even they have to manage

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their own elite class. Those will be endowed with some

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position of influence within the hierarchy as well as the masses.

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of a positive force of light versus a positive force

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of darkness. And if you look at like Gerard on

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the synarchist movement the Russian Okrana. He was a member

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of the Hermitic Order of the Golden Dawn at the

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same time that Aleister Crowley was, as he was also advising.

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second Bizarre of Russia, who ends up getting introduced to

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the protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion through this

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theosophical network that brings in this provable forgery. It didn't really,

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said inside of the documents, but it's been proven again

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and again very well that this is a complete hoax,

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taken from a fellow member of the He's also a

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member the Right of Memphis ms RAYM. It's an Egyptian sect,

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a Masonic rite that was sort of fused together by

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Garibaldi in eighteen eighty. Madame Blovotsky was a high initiate

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of this. So there was a Moore's Julie was the

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original architect of the dialogue between Montesquieu and Machiavelli as

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a polemic against Apolling the Third where.

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Speaker 2: Wow, these guys all connect to each other. It is

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one movie. Yeah, Wow, and that's kind of what I'm

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happening with with this too, is I just want to

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mention just before we keep going.

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Speaker 1: The Learned Elders of Zion thing is another thing.

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Speaker 2: That she mentioned, where yes it's a forgery, but isn't

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it genius to take true things that you're doing and

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put you put them in a forgery so nobody believes it.

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It discredits the truth, you know, there's an aspect of that.

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have two things true at once. And this woman is

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so smart I don't want to rail on her anymore.

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Is the last thing I was saying. She's way too

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smart to see this and not also see that, you

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know where I'm just like, come on, you know there's

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something going on here. Yeah, but I see that, you

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see that, And that's because you're able to hold that

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nuance kind of two thoughts in your head at once.

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Because that's a strong man to say, you know, well,

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it's a ordury, that's it, nothing's real. But then you

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look at the details and you find that there is

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some of that rhyming with our reality. I mean, you know,

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use your brain here, you know, hold one second, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Like there's some really useful books like if if you,

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if you as an honest researcher trying to make sense

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of this sort of like dark you know, uh, refuse

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this this this dark stuff underlying the visible part of

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the recorded historic records that shape so much. If you,

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if you're being honest, you have to delve into these networks,

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these occult networks. What do what do they believe? How

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did these gnostic ideologies that tried to smother Christianity in

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the in the cradle, how did they continue to go underground?

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And what type of institutions did they did? Did they

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manifest in the centuries after they were nominally banned from

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the Roman Empire? How did these things create the Chivalric

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orders that saw the Crusades as a ritual bloodbath. How

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did they then you know, generate things like the Franciscan

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and Dominican orders that went on to manage the inquisitions.

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How did they then emerge in the form of the

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Jesuits or the Rosicrucians. The's two sides of the left hand,

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right hand path of the same thing. Right, you kind

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of have to go there, but how do you how

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do you research that without slipping into stupid land because

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there's so much like irresponsible material out there and some

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of the things that you have to start sort of

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take in you You can't. I couldn't avoid reading garbage

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useful books like a Cult Theocracy from like nineteen twenty

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one by Edith Starr Miller.

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Speaker 2: Dude, Yes, great, but I mean, you know, also garbage

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but also wow, you know, yeah.

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Speaker 3: Like she's leading, she's a high level member of the

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aristocratic clans. Yes, they they because they know that there

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will always be within human human beings there is something

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that urins for the transcendental that is not satisfied in

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general with limitations. So they preventatively try to co opt

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that spirit of discovery in a variety of ways. And

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when it comes to researching our own world how we

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got into, let's say, World War one, world War two,

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especially in the time of crisis, people's minds begin to

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move a lot more than when things are kind of stable,

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and people are more easy to induce into some form

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of sleepwalking docility. They don't ask the big questions when

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things are stable. You can feed your kids, you got

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a job, you know, the big the big dream is

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easier to sort of like lean into when there's a crisis,

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people's minds will want to like pick up and that's

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why they publish. They actually publish a lot of these

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limited hangouts to reveal to satisfy that yearning. But then

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who's the what's the organizing principle? These are really useful books.

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An yeah, it's epsty right, Just be happy with epste.

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Speaker 4: Right, just yeah, be happy with end all right there,

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happy with crazy pedophile guy that he's gonna absorb all

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of that hate and anger or the another Jewish family, right, Like,

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he's a low level, you know, very influential for sure.

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Speaker 3: You know, he's very self aware of what he's with

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the big game is that he's a part of. But

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it's certainly he's very low hanging fruit. And if you

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go up a little bit higher, there's there's other often.

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Speaker 5: Jewish dynastic families that have been propped up and have

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been used as kind of like multi generational weapons, as

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little dynasties, whether it's the Sassoon family or.

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Speaker 3: The the Rothschild family. There's a number of them. They're

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called Hoffeudon. A lot of them were brought into play

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during the the Middle Ages, during the Crusades, when a

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lot of Sephardic and i'd say even former Kazarian Jews

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were brought into royal courts to be the servants of

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the higher patrician class, and they would carry out a

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lot of the heavy lifting when it comes to financial warfare,

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because you got to do usury if you're gonna if

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you're going to maintain an empire effectively, you got to

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do the usury. You got to do, you know, speculation,

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You got to get people into debts they can't you

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get themselves out of so that you could, you could

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manipulate them. It's part of the game, but you can't.

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that you're a Christian king or a Christian duke or something.

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It's harder because there's a lot of like the papacy

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had passed a Poppa bull banning usury, and I forget

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which century we're talking here, I think it was the

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seventh or sixth or seventh century, and so it became

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useful to have a group of people who didn't have

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such a an edict holding them back from carrying out usury.

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Although it's still actually browned upon even in the Jewish Bible.

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It's not something you should but anyway, you got the

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Talmud stuff that helps because it's basically Talmud is like

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the nip off the coat writings. There's a lot of like,

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there's a lot of doubt. There's hundreds and hundreds of

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rabbinical opinions about a variety of things inside of the

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talent wood. And some of it's okay. Some of it's

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like good life lessons. Other things are like their debates

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on how do you interpret the Book of Leviticus or

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these like very nitpicking little things. Other things are just

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crazy bad. There's elements, there's actually absolutely sick minds who

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also were published and embedded into the town. But it's

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not like the Bible. It's not like the Qoran. It's

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it's treated like a like a like men made writings

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to induce students to philosophize and debate in future generation sets.

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But it did create a space where some of this,

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you know, some of the some of the writings made

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it more possible to incubate misanthropic individuals who would see

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themselves happily carrying out acts of abuse of others, especially

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through financial warfare for the for the pursuit of whatever

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Kabbalist endeavor they think they're they're they're engaged in. So

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the Rothschilds, this assumes the Montafiori is the Brafman family.

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These are all like limited dynastic families who are then,

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as the authors of the Protocols of Zion recognized, uh

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going to be the receivers the organizing principle of the

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Black Lodge of Madame Bolovotsky's Great Black Lodge that must

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exist to counterpose the great White Lodge of the ascended

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Masters who are interfacing with her and the elect you know,

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through channeling and other forms of out of body experiences

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following like the John D scrying or yeah, John D

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scrowing methods, which Aleister Crowley then tried to revive as well.

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So they're they're like on the side of lights in

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the battle against the forces of darkness and the Jewish

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banking Kubals and the jesuitical Jewish banking cabals. They position

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on the side of the evil side to receive the hate.

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And it doesn't mean that they're good. It doesn't mean

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that the Rothschilds are good or that the Jesuits are good.

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It doesn't mean that. It just means it's part of

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the the brainwashing.

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Speaker 1: Yes exactly.

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Speaker 2: You know, you have the outward Luciferian kind of you

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become God, you know, all things are you know, you

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got to get in touch and it's kind of a

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it looks good. And then you have the other side,

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do as thou wilt, you know, take your will into

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your hands, you do whatever you want, indulge that is,

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you know, theirs, whereas the other one says, get rid

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of every indulgence, get rid of every you know, vice

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to a point of you know, your self becoming God.

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And you know, yeah, they are just too oppose it

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because they follow the same And that's what I've noticed

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throughout reading a lot of the Free Masonic texts is

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that you can't. I don't think you can use the

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same exact philosophy and say, well, you could use it

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for bad and use it for good, so it's not

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inherently bad.

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Speaker 1: I think there's a trace to it where it becomes.

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Speaker 2: That way if you like for astrology, you know what

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I mean, Eventually, dude, you're you're kind of like the

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deeper you get into it, you are getting into tarot

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and crystals and witchcraft.

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Speaker 1: You know it's going to lead there, you know.

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Speaker 2: So it's it's just not maybe the old Hermetic Prince,

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you know, the old Hermetic text and everything like that

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might have had more truth to it, maybe be more

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in line with the kind of Jesus Christ kind of thing, but.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it is so far from that now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I I have my doubts. Like I've read some

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of the Hermetic, the original like so called trumetic text,

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which I agree, Like, you know, you read your summing,

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You're like, okay, philosophically, yeah, sure, okay, what I It

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seems benign on the surface, but you're like, am I

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just reading like the exoteric outward teaching that's the honey

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on the on the poison exactly? And is there, you know,

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within the spaces of the ambiguity of the language, is

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there a space for a secret teaching to coexist with this?

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That might be the opposite game, as there always is

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with these sorts of things. And I'm like, yeah, probably

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because I you judge them by their their their fruits,

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right or by the first special judge them. And it's like, well,

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where are the the wonderful if if this is such

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truly principled, honorable philosophy. Where are the principled, honorable followers

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of this philosophy after this mythical figure of Hermestius dies?

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Where is where is honorable good followers? And their acts?

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What have they done? Because every time I'm tracing out

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his devoted followers and what do they do and what

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institutions are they building, I'm just seeing like a Satanic mess.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're so right about that. You were so right,

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you know.

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Speaker 2: And and it's that hierarchical structure again, the god king

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structure that it leads into. So earlier we talked on

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we kind of touched on cosmism, and cosmism is something

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I've seen kind of get brought up because of Soviet

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infiltration into the Echelon Institute. Are you familiar with what

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the esslon Institute is?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, I've written a lot about that.

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Speaker 2: Okay, good, awesome, because there's a in my opinion from

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what I've been reading lately, major psychedelic intelligence movement coming

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out of the Essolent Institute. But not a lot of

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people know that there's actually a deep Soviet KGB kind

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of tie to that place, and it's mixed in with

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like cosmists who came in and kind of make it

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00:26:14,799 --> 00:26:17,480
so you have people like Terrence McKenna, you know, kind

469
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,359
of like the Joe Rogan's, the psychedelic kind of new

470
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,480
Age kind of like you know, that new group of

471
00:26:22,559 --> 00:26:25,160
like coming out of whatever this is that we see

472
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,799
coming that this movement is. I think it's part of

473
00:26:27,799 --> 00:26:30,960
the traditionalist movement in a weird way, but really it's

474
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:34,160
a part of this theosophical kind of resurgence of this

475
00:26:34,279 --> 00:26:37,319
you know, new Atlantis, and you know, they may want

476
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:39,240
to do it by digital means, and the way to

477
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,680
do that is get people on psychedelic drugs, they get

478
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:45,960
the ego death, and they're easily programmed into this new hardware.

479
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 1: That's kind of a theory I have.

480
00:26:47,519 --> 00:26:49,279
Speaker 2: We don't have to go that deep, but I'm curious

481
00:26:49,319 --> 00:26:52,960
what you know about the Esslin Institute regarding the cosmist

482
00:26:53,039 --> 00:26:55,519
and Soviet connection and how it's kind of like the

483
00:26:55,519 --> 00:26:59,279
new Laurel Canyon. It's almost like the new Bohemian Grove

484
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:03,039
like map which is where they study MDMA and psychedelics

485
00:27:03,039 --> 00:27:06,160
for PTSD, came out of the Essaon Institute as well.

486
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,279
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, we're gonna have to have a fall up show, yeah,

487
00:27:09,279 --> 00:27:11,960
because this is a bay one. Yes, and I'd like

488
00:27:12,039 --> 00:27:14,519
to know a little bit more about the cosmos overlap,

489
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,200
Like I've read a little bit of Bogdanov's work and

490
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,599
Gorky as well, who was kind of like you know,

491
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:21,400
in and out.

492
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 1: There does potential for immortality.

493
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, metaphysics mixed with realea well, it seems to be

494
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:31,680
sort of like again a because you have these I'm

495
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:35,400
all about nuance, right, So I love the battles, the

496
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:40,359
epistemological battles that tend to be found below the surface

497
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,880
appearance of the written history records when you're dealing with like,

498
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,519
for example, the futurist school of the nineteenth century the

499
00:27:46,559 --> 00:27:49,920
early twentieth century inside of Russia, and you've got people

500
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,680
who on the one hand, it's kind of like also

501
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:54,920
seeing the battles between the people who are nominally all

502
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:59,119
called Enlightenment philosophers of the sixteen, seventeenth, eighteenth centuries, and

503
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,440
it's like they're all the same thing. You got some

504
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,440
of them who are like the of the John Lockean

505
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:07,319
Hobbesian school of the blank slate class, who all believe,

506
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:12,039
who are all promoting this idea that science is really

507
00:28:12,319 --> 00:28:15,480
should be devoted to the management of stability in systems

508
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,240
and not really devoted to the love of God, the

509
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,359
love of truth, and that the very idea of metaphysics

510
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:24,599
in God should be completely expelled from the Temple of science.

511
00:28:24,839 --> 00:28:27,559
And they're in their very sick formula. And then you

512
00:28:27,599 --> 00:28:31,240
have people who are who are living within the Enlightenment

513
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,480
time frame, so they're they're falsely labeled all the same

514
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:38,640
Enlightenment thinkers like alibnanz or a Kepler, but they're actually

515
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:43,960
doing battle against both these rigid materialists, the followers of

516
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,720
the sort of Francis Bacon New Atlantis approach. The same

517
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:48,720
thing occurs in Russia in the in the early twentieth

518
00:28:48,759 --> 00:28:55,759
century before and enduring the Bolshevik Revolution, and they're simultaneously

519
00:28:55,799 --> 00:28:59,720
doing battle with the opposite school of the magician class.

520
00:29:00,359 --> 00:29:03,079
So Francis Bacon. The fact that Francis Bacon is both

521
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:08,359
creating the foundations for rigid empiricism to define science around

522
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:12,319
what's called the British Empiricists UH model, which becomes the

523
00:29:12,319 --> 00:29:16,200
foundation for the British Royal Society when that's created following

524
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,319
the Bacon model set out in the new Organum, in

525
00:29:18,359 --> 00:29:23,880
the New Atlantis. He's simultaneously also a magician trying to

526
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:27,359
like stry and get messages from the from the demons

527
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,960
of the beyond and doing work on So that's not

528
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,440
that's not people. And like Isaac Newton, all of the followers,

529
00:29:33,759 --> 00:29:36,200
the leading, the leading members of the British Royal Society,

530
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,640
which was the Rosicrucion Invisible College, it's the same thing.

531
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:45,400
They're all Rosicrucians. AlCH Bacon was too, We're all they're

532
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:50,359
all doing like all of this neoplatonic, hermetic, Kabbalistic garbage.

533
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 2: And because it's the perennial philosophy and it per me

534
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,880
it's through everything where I think that at the highest

535
00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:00,839
order they reached this level through the pyramid. Each level

536
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,039
is another layer of manipulation and deception, and by the

537
00:30:03,039 --> 00:30:05,559
time you get to the top, you are the master deceiver,

538
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:09,559
the master manipulator who can make And one of the

539
00:30:09,559 --> 00:30:11,160
main things they do is have them like make up

540
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,440
their own word, and that word would have meaning and certain,

541
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,960
you know, spiritual kind of because you know, words themselves

542
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:20,200
have kind of this manifestation kind of aspect to them.

543
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,799
They believe and so you kind of create your own words,

544
00:30:23,119 --> 00:30:25,319
you create your own cults. Right, So then they go

545
00:30:25,599 --> 00:30:28,960
and create another one which looks different and has different

546
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:30,960
aspects to it because it comes from a different guy,

547
00:30:31,559 --> 00:30:34,279
but at its core you find that same like kind

548
00:30:34,279 --> 00:30:37,480
of like you're saying, they're doing the same things, the

549
00:30:37,559 --> 00:30:44,400
Rosicrucian style of practicing magicala, kabala, et cetera. Pardon, yeah,

550
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,119
so I think that there's something to that where yeah,

551
00:30:47,119 --> 00:30:48,839
they just go in. It's like a hydra, you just

552
00:30:48,839 --> 00:30:50,240
go out and make your own. So it seems like

553
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,319
a different society, but it's not. It's leading to these things.

554
00:30:52,359 --> 00:30:55,079
Speaker 3: You got that exactly. So that's the false sort of

555
00:30:55,200 --> 00:31:00,920
Luciferian natural response granted to the rigidity. So they will

556
00:31:01,039 --> 00:31:03,839
create the system that they infiltrate, whether it's science, whether

557
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,079
it's the nation state, whatever, they will infiltrate it, or

558
00:31:06,119 --> 00:31:09,400
the church. They'll infiltrate and then gain influence to make

559
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:15,559
it as rigid and tyrannical as possible. That's what Bacon

560
00:31:15,599 --> 00:31:18,200
was doing with his rigidification of science, by making by

561
00:31:18,279 --> 00:31:25,960
really encouraging this this radical, hyper compartmentalized system of Again

562
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,799
it's radical empiricism the belief that the senses are only

563
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,720
access to the truth. That's not true, that's never been true.

564
00:31:32,119 --> 00:31:34,400
The senses are a tool, a servant for a higher

565
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,200
power within us to discover the truth. But they're not

566
00:31:37,279 --> 00:31:39,599
the basis upon which we form an idea of what

567
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,079
is true. That is, if we do that, we're creating

568
00:31:42,079 --> 00:31:45,400
a little metaphysical cage. And that's where we start seeing

569
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,000
that the thing that we call, we've been induced foolishly

570
00:31:48,039 --> 00:31:52,240
to call science, is actually a form of magic. And

571
00:31:52,279 --> 00:31:55,599
so they create them this these debates between the rigid

572
00:31:55,599 --> 00:31:59,000
class of the standard model, you know, adherence of the model,

573
00:31:59,359 --> 00:32:01,480
who don't think think about why the model is true

574
00:32:01,559 --> 00:32:03,799
or not. It's just that they got rewarded, they got prestige,

575
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:07,240
they got published by being adherents and mastering the language

576
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:11,519
of the model. And then they then and then that's stifling.

577
00:32:11,599 --> 00:32:17,880
And so for those who reject the suffocating nature of

578
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:21,599
that type of environment, they will then want to escape

579
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,720
that cage, and they will tend to then fall prey

580
00:32:24,799 --> 00:32:29,200
to being initiated into some Luciferian sect of some form

581
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,039
of fake Promethean like an evil version of the Promethea

582
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:36,039
story in the form of like a Crowley style operation

583
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,440
or something like that. So I'm just saying this because

584
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:45,680
in the case of Russia, you had very honorable scientists

585
00:32:45,759 --> 00:32:49,880
who did great discoveries, like Vladimir Vernadsky, who is the

586
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:53,960
father of Russian atomic science. He's the the I've read

587
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,160
a lot of Varnaski's works, and I've studied the man's

588
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,519
history as bio the works he did. He was a

589
00:32:58,519 --> 00:33:01,759
fan of Abraham Lincoln. He was one of the leading

590
00:33:01,759 --> 00:33:05,240
students of Mendeliev de Metro Mendeleev who discovered the harmonic

591
00:33:05,359 --> 00:33:09,160
order organizing principle of the periodic table, which is a

592
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:09,880
gorgeous discovery.

593
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I've seen that.

594
00:33:11,559 --> 00:33:15,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, like matches the musical spheres, doesn't it.

595
00:33:15,079 --> 00:33:19,759
Speaker 3: Take he's thinking in musical harmonics. And also he's able

596
00:33:19,799 --> 00:33:23,039
to you know that the quality of his Eureka had

597
00:33:23,279 --> 00:33:27,279
weight because he was able to predictively point out that

598
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,359
in these empty spaces, of which there were like twelve

599
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,519
empty spaces, he said, there will be there must be

600
00:33:33,759 --> 00:33:37,079
elements that are there that have these attributes, these atomic masses,

601
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:42,880
these binding qualities with its sister adjacent elements. And people

602
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,480
thought he was crazy because you can't say that nobody

603
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,640
has ever seen these things. And yet in the subsequent years,

604
00:33:48,759 --> 00:33:50,799
in the eighteen seventies eighteen eighties, there was like they

605
00:33:50,839 --> 00:33:53,400
all started getting filled and turned out that yeah, he

606
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,119
was totally right, because the way, it's not like they

607
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,319
had a crystal ball. He wasn't scrying, he wasn't getting

608
00:33:57,319 --> 00:33:59,279
demons to tell him that. He just had a method

609
00:33:59,319 --> 00:34:01,400
where he knew that the universe or he had he

610
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,920
had an abiding faith in the harmonics of the created

611
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:08,679
universe and the creator that created the universe, that required

612
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:12,119
that there would be for the sake of symmetry and beauty,

613
00:34:12,599 --> 00:34:16,039
that these attributes necessarily must be discovered the same way

614
00:34:16,039 --> 00:34:18,880
that Kepler was able to earlier two centuries early three

615
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:22,880
centuries earlier, predictively point out that there must be some

616
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:27,519
form of there will be something discovered in this space

617
00:34:27,559 --> 00:34:31,159
between Mars and Saturn. There must be because the harmonics

618
00:34:31,199 --> 00:34:33,880
that he was he discovered to be tempering the the

619
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:39,440
flow of all of the planets around the Sun. There

620
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,840
was a harmonic orb organizing principle that he proved to

621
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,760
be true through his third law, which which emanated through

622
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:48,079
his his musical instincts. As he pointed out, but that

623
00:34:48,119 --> 00:34:50,639
required that there would there must be something in that

624
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:54,440
unnaturally big space, which turned out to be the orbit

625
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:58,000
of the orbital belt of the asteroid the asteroid belts

626
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:02,360
where the big Asteroids series was discovered by Carl Gauss,

627
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:03,239
one of his followers.

628
00:35:03,559 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 1: And that's thought to be a planet that was, you know,

629
00:35:05,519 --> 00:35:06,119
exploded too.

630
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 3: It could be an exploded planet, could be a variety

631
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,679
of things. He I think Kepler, in his personal letters

632
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:14,400
speculated that it might be an exploded planet. But so

633
00:35:14,639 --> 00:35:16,599
you know that that's the sort of quality of mind

634
00:35:16,599 --> 00:35:18,880
of somebody who's a real Renaissance thinker and who has

635
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:23,320
no problem seeing science as an expression of prayer of

636
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:28,440
the divine, which the Enlightenment materialists as well as their

637
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:33,320
left hand path, you know, magician class counterparts all deny.

638
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,239
They all want to separate that and pretend it doesn't exist,

639
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,199
and so they try to co opt these names. And

640
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:41,320
then so all, let's say, in Russia, the battle lines

641
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,239
between I think the there are people who I've encountered

642
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,320
to are healthy cosmis because they're confused by what the

643
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:49,239
word means. And what I mean is that they they

644
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,079
like Kepler, or like Mendala, or.

645
00:35:52,679 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 1: With you, I see that, Yeah, because the way this is.

646
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 3: Like our way of worshiping God. There there they have

647
00:35:58,599 --> 00:36:01,280
got a Christian heart, and they they see technology as

648
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,480
an expression not of like a demon out to destroy

649
00:36:04,639 --> 00:36:07,719
us or the Antichrist out to emerge in a materialized

650
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:09,519
way to subdue us. They see it as something that

651
00:36:09,599 --> 00:36:14,159
humans create as part of the effect of our ongoing

652
00:36:14,199 --> 00:36:18,519
pursuit are never ending pursuit of the Book of Nature

653
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:22,840
and in honor of God, which could be used badly

654
00:36:23,079 --> 00:36:26,079
if we allow immorality to govern the behavior and the

655
00:36:26,519 --> 00:36:30,159
outcome of how technology is used to enslave and destroy

656
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:33,239
versus create and uplift. That's I think a much healthier thing.

657
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:36,039
But in the time of Bogdanov as well, there were

658
00:36:36,079 --> 00:36:39,519
these battle lines where he was part of this Isle

659
00:36:39,519 --> 00:36:42,039
of Capri network with Gorky, so he had a whole

660
00:36:42,079 --> 00:36:45,079
Bolshevik school in the nineteen twenties in the Isle of Capri,

661
00:36:45,159 --> 00:36:48,119
which is an occult center off the coast of Amalfi,

662
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,079
and it has been since Tiberius was doing like black

663
00:36:51,119 --> 00:36:54,440
magic rituals of Polyominidic dynasty and human sacrifice and orities

664
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,880
back in the Roman Empire. It still is it always was,

665
00:36:58,119 --> 00:37:01,320
and so that's where one Bolshevik school was located, and

666
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:05,280
you had him and Gorky managing this Bolsheviks school to

667
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,599
try to capture and control what they would want the

668
00:37:07,679 --> 00:37:10,320
Bolsheviks to be because it was an underdefined thing. So

669
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,639
it was a colored revolution in so many ways, but

670
00:37:12,679 --> 00:37:17,199
it was still undefined because there was legitimate human beings

671
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:21,440
operating through that movement that really wanted to not suffocate

672
00:37:21,519 --> 00:37:24,519
under the tyranny of the old system anymore. And we're

673
00:37:24,519 --> 00:37:26,480
trying to figure out, like, how do we build something new?

674
00:37:26,519 --> 00:37:28,280
And then you had Oh, that's going on right now.

675
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,519
Speaker 2: I think that's happening right now through this next generation

676
00:37:31,599 --> 00:37:31,840
of this.

677
00:37:32,119 --> 00:37:35,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, all these people you're describing, by the way, exact

678
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:36,360
type of.

679
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 2: Lines of thinking I find with Dugan, he had the

680
00:37:41,559 --> 00:37:45,400
National Bolshevik Party that he created. He follows Alistair Crowley

681
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,199
very heavily in the Golden Dawn, and then you kind

682
00:37:48,199 --> 00:37:52,760
of see this theosophical kind of hyper and he's the

683
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:56,760
Eastern Orthodox Christian and Eastern Orthodox Christianity is I think

684
00:37:57,639 --> 00:38:01,280
a way too, along with Catholicism has already kind of

685
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,760
ruined their reputation. So you know, if you were going

686
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:05,480
to use one that's kind of adjacent to that, to

687
00:38:05,559 --> 00:38:09,920
kind of usher in a perennial philosophy via Christian Christian mysticism,

688
00:38:10,119 --> 00:38:12,159
which is I think the way they're leaning right now

689
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:16,159
is using kind of Christianity to drive towards Christian mysticism.

690
00:38:16,679 --> 00:38:18,599
You have Canis Owens people like that who talked about

691
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,079
astral traveling, you know, like her and.

692
00:38:22,599 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk.

693
00:38:23,519 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 2: So you have this kind of weaponization of the Christians

694
00:38:25,519 --> 00:38:27,599
who are following her and now driving them towards this.

695
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,480
And she goes to Russia, speaks with Dugan and talks

696
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,800
about you know, so I think there's something there where

697
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,360
they're kind of driving that. And when you look into Dougan,

698
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,119
you see that, like everybody you're mentioning, is very much

699
00:38:38,199 --> 00:38:41,280
in his that's his ideologic, his ideologue, that's how he

700
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:44,760
kind of operates too. So yeah, I struggle to see.

701
00:38:46,039 --> 00:38:48,079
Speaker 3: The thing around this battle in Russia that I think

702
00:38:48,159 --> 00:38:50,760
is really important for researchers like you and I and

703
00:38:50,760 --> 00:39:00,840
anybody listening. Who is that. So on the one hand,

704
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:08,079
when so Trotsky was I think kind of a subvert.

705
00:39:08,599 --> 00:39:11,119
They really wanted Trotsky. There's a there's a variety of

706
00:39:11,159 --> 00:39:13,039
different scenarios because there was I mean there it was

707
00:39:13,079 --> 00:39:15,480
like knives out right after the Bultual Revolution. It was

708
00:39:15,519 --> 00:39:18,199
like factions and factions and kniving out each other and stuff.

709
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,119
You had the like the Lenin breakaway group that split

710
00:39:21,119 --> 00:39:25,239
off from Gorky and Boganov and had a Paris group

711
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:28,480
or Paris School that was battling the Capri School over

712
00:39:28,559 --> 00:39:30,320
like influence. Who was going to like to find what

713
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:32,800
this even means? What does this mean to be? So

714
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:34,920
you got that going on. You got the people who

715
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,440
are often like a lot of the white Russians from

716
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:42,840
the old aristocracy, ended up rallying around the Orthodox Church networks,

717
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:47,360
so they became increasingly the representatives of the church. But

718
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:50,679
they were actually also the feudalists who were ironically working

719
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:55,559
with the old black magician class to overthrow the Romanovs

720
00:39:55,559 --> 00:39:59,159
who were a little bit too open to having ideas

721
00:39:59,679 --> 00:40:03,199
of lif the Abraham Lincoln networks coming being brought into

722
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:06,159
Russia that allowed for the abolishment of serfdom, that the

723
00:40:06,199 --> 00:40:10,000
abolishment of the programs, which was a big thing holding

724
00:40:10,079 --> 00:40:13,880
Russia back into like this. It was a very static

725
00:40:14,559 --> 00:40:18,719
kind of system of controls which the new late nineteenth

726
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:22,320
century movement inside of Russia that circulated around Alexander the

727
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,119
Sack and Alexander the Third, both assassinated by the Way

728
00:40:25,119 --> 00:40:28,679
for a reason, but they were realizing that they needed

729
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:33,000
to think much think in a more healthy paradigm about

730
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:37,199
dealing with natural law, bringing in economic development in a

731
00:40:37,639 --> 00:40:39,440
very healthy way, and a lot of figures within the

732
00:40:39,519 --> 00:40:41,840
Russian Church were also realizing that this is the way

733
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:45,199
to go, and that that's where it became too uncontrollable,

734
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:52,519
and the necessity of both bringing in an overthrow of

735
00:40:52,559 --> 00:40:57,199
the Romanovs on the one hand, was done largely by

736
00:40:58,119 --> 00:41:00,639
the old note many members of the old nobility who

737
00:41:00,639 --> 00:41:02,639
would run things like the Russian chron of the Russian

738
00:41:02,679 --> 00:41:06,440
Secret Police that also had a Paris Bridge, ironically, and

739
00:41:06,519 --> 00:41:08,079
they were gambling on the fact that they would be

740
00:41:08,119 --> 00:41:11,159
able to then bring in one of their own princeling

741
00:41:11,639 --> 00:41:15,559
representatives as the outcome after a period of chaos, which

742
00:41:15,599 --> 00:41:18,239
didn't end up happening. So they gambled and they lost.

743
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:21,000
But what happened is that you had then breakaways within

744
00:41:21,039 --> 00:41:25,519
the Orthodox Church, so you had by the nineteen early twenties,

745
00:41:27,599 --> 00:41:30,960
the Cosmist, you know, Maxim Gorky is killed the Cosmists

746
00:41:31,079 --> 00:41:33,880
kind of like lose their influence, you know, in Russia

747
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:37,559
at that time, but they don't disappear. You have a

748
00:41:37,599 --> 00:41:40,079
breakaway of the church. So the Russian Church, you have

749
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:43,280
what's called the Russian Orthodox Church outside of Russia, is

750
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:46,800
created to represent all of the white Russians that then

751
00:41:47,079 --> 00:41:51,000
find sanctuary in England, in Canada, in the United States,

752
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:55,840
and they become part of the thing that we see

753
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:59,480
aligned with like the Russian Fascist Party if you like,

754
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:01,840
in Harbor in China, Northern China, that was like the

755
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:06,719
hub of in the nineteen thirties of the Russian Nazi Party.

756
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,559
A lot of these white Russian leaders were were behind that,

757
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:14,400
a lot of the the Russian Orthodox Church outside of

758
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:19,440
Russia that also was brought into California, especially.

759
00:42:19,119 --> 00:42:23,800
Speaker 1: Like Okay, and then SRIS. SRI is connected to.

760
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:28,360
Speaker 3: S Yeah, but they're not alone. So you have these

761
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:31,800
two factions, right because like evil will manifest itself through

762
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:36,039
anything it can through Catholic, Orthodox, Protestant, any flavor if

763
00:42:36,039 --> 00:42:38,960
they will write. And then you find battle lines between

764
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,519
people who actually like read the Bible, read Jesus's words,

765
00:42:41,519 --> 00:42:44,639
and they're like let that shape them and find themselves

766
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:49,360
within each one of those those platforms, batting out from

767
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:53,320
those who actually are just using it for power. And

768
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:55,440
then so you got this other very.

769
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:56,760
Speaker 1: Important statement you just said.

770
00:42:56,760 --> 00:43:00,639
Speaker 2: There, you know, it's every it's in every group, and

771
00:43:01,079 --> 00:43:03,079
you do have people that are vying for the power.

772
00:43:03,119 --> 00:43:05,119
And then you have some of the truth that people

773
00:43:05,199 --> 00:43:07,239
you know, follow, but it can be weaponized by the

774
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:08,360
people who were email like.

775
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:10,760
Speaker 3: Jesuits, right, Like I got examples of Jesuits who broke

776
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:13,519
who got off the reservation because they just happened to

777
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:16,119
like think about the writings of the Bible a little

778
00:43:16,119 --> 00:43:17,880
bit more than some of their superiors, and they're like,

779
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,719
wait a minute, what we're doing is wrong. And they

780
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:25,079
had to ring under the bus, right. Yeah, but here

781
00:43:25,119 --> 00:43:27,480
we got there's this other thing I'll just throwaut to

782
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:31,320
here called in the within the Catholic sort of Satanists

783
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,880
wearing Catholic skin suits. There's one very influential one that

784
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:37,360
plays it a role in the Esslin with the Russian

785
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,960
Orthodox Church outside of Russia, and this is called the

786
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:45,000
Order of the Camerald Deasy of Saint romy Wald, and

787
00:43:45,079 --> 00:43:46,639
it was a it was set up in nine point

788
00:43:46,639 --> 00:43:51,960
fifty two by seven patricians of the old Patrician families,

789
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:57,400
very very subversive organization. They had a hub in the

790
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:01,719
Appenine Mountains where the Oracle of the Appening Sibell was

791
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:03,880
located at the center of one of the Black Mass

792
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:07,599
structures of the medieval period. They brought in a lot

793
00:44:07,639 --> 00:44:11,159
of a lot of fran Chiskin's grant strategists as well

794
00:44:11,159 --> 00:44:15,480
as others, and they interface. They kind of like played

795
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:20,599
a parallel role with certain similar agencies that had built

796
00:44:20,679 --> 00:44:24,000
up similar orders inside of Russia or then doing that

797
00:44:24,079 --> 00:44:25,440
at the same time. And I'm not going to go

798
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,320
into more detail than that for now. And this order

799
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:33,159
of Cavalryes they had a They came into the United

800
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:35,360
States in nineteen fifty eight and the first place that

801
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:39,920
they set up was Big Sewer in nineteen fifty eight.

802
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:45,199
What yeah, wow, Yeah, they got a whole Wikipedia page.

803
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:47,840
This is not a secret information in my mind.

804
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 1: Oh, this is crazy, dude.

805
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:52,079
Speaker 2: So it's connected to people who were connected to the

806
00:44:52,119 --> 00:44:55,599
Black Mass like location and then they come here.

807
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:58,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a major occult organizing center. I actually wrote

808
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:04,039
a book on the on the Happening Sibyl called The

809
00:45:04,079 --> 00:45:06,360
Revenge of the Mystery Cults, Volume three. I got a

810
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:08,159
copy of it here. Actually, if anybody wants to like

811
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:14,360
know about the this happening. The Eleventh Sibyl and its

812
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:19,039
its role in influencing influencing global occult movements and geopolitical

813
00:45:19,079 --> 00:45:24,519
structures is Edgar Poe's final mystery Revenge of the Mystery Cults,

814
00:45:24,559 --> 00:45:26,480
Volume three. I'm just saying that's for anybody watching right now.

815
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:29,880
There's like eight chapters specifically on that and how it

816
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:33,480
infiltrated it or it seeked into the United States in

817
00:45:33,519 --> 00:45:36,719
the early nineteenth century at which Edgar Allen Poe was

818
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:40,119
exposing and trying to combat with a with a number

819
00:45:40,159 --> 00:45:44,760
of incredible artist patriot cultural war like warriors who are

820
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:45,599
incredible people.

821
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:47,840
Speaker 2: It's always the guys that they make out to look

822
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:51,400
like just the drug addict, crazy dude who ends up

823
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:54,320
actually being the ones that are on the side of

824
00:45:54,559 --> 00:45:56,360
you know, the good side, the side of humanity. We

825
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,039
could say, yeah, you know, and and it's the opposite

826
00:45:59,079 --> 00:46:01,440
the people they were. Now, the more you look into them,

827
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:04,840
the more you find some fuckery for lack of better terms,

828
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:08,480
you know, or you know, if you're looking at like Aristotle,

829
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:11,199
Da Vinci, Plato, it's like Yeah, great stuff. But also

830
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:13,639
were they really messing with little boys? Like what's going

831
00:46:13,679 --> 00:46:15,079
on with this? They're really a part of this kind

832
00:46:15,119 --> 00:46:18,039
of like group that, you know, it's it's something to

833
00:46:18,159 --> 00:46:22,880
that the Lucinian type of thinking, where I see that

834
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:26,679
permeating the Esselin today. But man, I did not know

835
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:29,719
Edgar Allan Poe was kind of like fighting against this kind.

836
00:46:29,599 --> 00:46:32,360
Speaker 3: Of Also, do you all send you a documentary? I

837
00:46:32,679 --> 00:46:35,679
commissioned my buddy Dave to take some of the chapters

838
00:46:35,679 --> 00:46:36,920
and turn it into a video and you did a

839
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:38,920
great job. My wife, my wife narrated it and we

840
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:40,719
just released this few months ago. I'll send it to

841
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:43,159
you on post final mystery going through who murdered Poe?

842
00:46:43,199 --> 00:46:45,480
How did they cover up? What was he exposing? I'm

843
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:46,719
pretty proud of that documentary.

844
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:49,119
Speaker 1: Oh that's awesome. I'm getting the book too that this

845
00:46:49,199 --> 00:46:49,880
is great. I love this.

846
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 3: But this is also what Houdini, Harry Houdini, who they

847
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:56,760
also treat as being this like flaky mystical magician guy

848
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,079
with you know, there's even a place in Palo Alto

849
00:47:00,039 --> 00:47:02,840
called the Houdini Palace where they they built up a

850
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:06,559
whole mythology about Houdini channeling messages from the beyond. And

851
00:47:07,119 --> 00:47:10,480
he was actually a follower of Plato sorry, of of

852
00:47:10,519 --> 00:47:13,320
Poe using Poe's method. He even wrote on he bought

853
00:47:13,519 --> 00:47:15,559
Poe's writing desk and that was like his prize thing

854
00:47:15,679 --> 00:47:19,159
because he was studying Poe's what Poe was doing as

855
00:47:19,199 --> 00:47:22,119
far as revealing all of these these magic tricks that

856
00:47:22,159 --> 00:47:28,039
were being induced to try to make Americans go crazy

857
00:47:28,599 --> 00:47:31,599
with the spiritualist movement, right, and and Poe was just

858
00:47:31,639 --> 00:47:34,360
breaking down and destroying a lot of their their efforts

859
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:35,760
in so many of his works.

860
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:38,679
Speaker 1: Like didn't he like fight Crowley or not fight him?

861
00:47:38,679 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 2: But weren't they like, you know, they met, but then

862
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,000
they had beef right whole.

863
00:47:43,079 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 3: They were both. They were both in New York at

864
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:48,760
the same time during World War One. Yeah, both fighting

865
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,559
over the influence of the new art of cinema at

866
00:47:51,559 --> 00:47:54,599
the same time with the some of the same producers.

867
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:59,519
So read the Yeah, when you watch the surviving films

868
00:47:59,599 --> 00:48:02,920
of the movies versus the Poe movies that actually deal

869
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:06,599
with themes that are that are relatively similar, it's fascinating

870
00:48:06,599 --> 00:48:12,880
because they're like opposing paradigms where uh sorry, who Whodini's

871
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:15,159
movies are I keep saying, Poe because I just see

872
00:48:15,199 --> 00:48:18,159
them as like the same spirit. But like Whodini's movies

873
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:22,280
are really warning people about how scientific ideas are ripped

874
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:25,159
off and scientists are killed as they're being absorbed into

875
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:29,320
multinational corporations. To then like he's that's the basis of

876
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:31,679
his first movie as the Plasma Scientist.

877
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:34,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

878
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:39,599
Speaker 2: It's current events, right, yeow wows coming to kill off

879
00:48:39,599 --> 00:48:41,920
all the plasma scientists and it's crazy.

880
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:44,320
Speaker 3: Yeah dude, okay, yeah, so you got all these things right,

881
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:48,000
And and California is a big zone a bit a

882
00:48:48,039 --> 00:48:52,480
big battle zone of battle right because New York they're

883
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:55,199
they're about to transfer in the nineteen twenties most of

884
00:48:55,199 --> 00:48:57,440
the functions of the cultural control of the shame and class.

885
00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:59,559
Who are going to control the big dream, who's going

886
00:48:59,639 --> 00:49:03,280
to be like controls the stories, controls the dream. So

887
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:05,760
it's very shamaniic. And you have to be initiated and

888
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:10,000
and it like initiated to be permitted to wield that

889
00:49:10,079 --> 00:49:12,199
kind of influence where your imagination is going to be

890
00:49:12,199 --> 00:49:16,039
permitted to be turned into productions, whether book or novellas

891
00:49:16,119 --> 00:49:19,159
or movies that will then influence the collective dream and

892
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:23,559
and and imagination of the future. It's very very powerful stuff. Disney, Yeah,

893
00:49:23,599 --> 00:49:28,079
Disney due Big one, Yeah exactly. Yeah. Man, that's sick.

894
00:49:31,199 --> 00:49:34,679
Speaker 2: So is history on this, on this, You've got some

895
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:35,880
great history on this, dude.

896
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, we could. We're definitely gonna have talked about this

897
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:39,559
disc Yeah, I know, we are. I know.

898
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 2: I was like, man, there's so much more that I

899
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:43,599
know that we have to kind of unfold here.

900
00:49:43,639 --> 00:49:45,519
Speaker 1: But this is a great introduction episode.

901
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, we could get we should take notes and

902
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:49,800
see what threads want to pull on in the future.

903
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:52,519
But yeah, definitely. Like so getting back to Eslain because

904
00:49:52,519 --> 00:49:56,000
you're a lot of work on Eslin. You got this

905
00:49:56,039 --> 00:50:00,400
convergence right of of just these this esoteric Catholic sect

906
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:05,960
and esoteric Orthodox sects kind of moving in lockstep, all

907
00:50:06,079 --> 00:50:07,559
kind of like revolving around the scenes.

908
00:50:07,639 --> 00:50:11,840
Speaker 1: You see that too. It's not just me, okay, okay.

909
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:15,280
Speaker 3: And then you've got you know, the Alistair Crowley networks

910
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:19,199
as well, who are interfacing directly, like through the Oto Lodge.

911
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:24,559
You have all this Huxley and Christopher Isherwood doing weird

912
00:50:24,639 --> 00:50:27,760
shit in California as well writing scripts for films and

913
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:31,320
other things overlapping with the thing that becomes. I mean

914
00:50:31,519 --> 00:50:35,280
all this Huxley's followers, or Michael Murphy and Pat Price, right,

915
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:38,280
so they're both attending his seminars on the human potential.

916
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:43,280
Speaker 2: I think Julian Huxley was actually a part of in

917
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:45,119
a weird way, if I'm not mistaken.

918
00:50:45,519 --> 00:50:47,679
Speaker 3: Julian Huxley was coming down. I know there's pictures of

919
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:52,079
him and all this with a few escellent people in California.

920
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:54,239
So he was actually coming in and out before his

921
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:58,639
brother dies. Yeah, so you.

922
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:00,760
Speaker 2: He wrote in that book I started interrupting, you know

923
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:03,519
in that book that like using this kind of chaos

924
00:51:03,559 --> 00:51:05,280
to bring in a new order, that's exactly what like

925
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:06,039
Trump is doing.

926
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:09,679
Speaker 1: He wrote that, man, are we.

927
00:51:09,599 --> 00:51:11,199
Speaker 3: Talking all are you talking to all this?

928
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:14,559
Speaker 2: Or Julian Julian I believe, well all this in his

929
00:51:14,599 --> 00:51:16,679
book Brave New World. May have wrote it, But Julian

930
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:18,960
had a book too, No, I'm sorry. Julian had a

931
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,239
book where he wrote in his novella the first story

932
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:23,800
about like a tinfoil hat, tinfoil hat.

933
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:25,679
Speaker 1: That story came from Julian's novella.

934
00:51:26,199 --> 00:51:30,280
Speaker 2: Really, yes, he spoke about a man who used.

935
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:30,880
Speaker 1: You can look it up.

936
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:34,119
Speaker 2: It's a fiction that he wrote and it describes somebody

937
00:51:34,159 --> 00:51:36,639
who's you know, getting voices in their head like Voice

938
00:51:36,639 --> 00:51:40,079
to Skull and they use a tinfoil hat and later on,

939
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:42,760
like obviously there's a real story about that where a

940
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:45,119
guy goes to the dentist and has that happened and

941
00:51:45,119 --> 00:51:47,960
puts a tinfoil hat on. And since then I've read

942
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:50,039
you know, I've read this on my show. I did

943
00:51:50,039 --> 00:51:52,599
an AI Voice to Skull technology show and I gave you know,

944
00:51:52,679 --> 00:51:55,480
all the history of like I'm going to forget him

945
00:51:55,519 --> 00:51:57,760
right now, but like Alan h. Frey and then also

946
00:51:58,119 --> 00:52:01,599
the guy who did the end three studies, you know, uh,

947
00:52:02,119 --> 00:52:03,719
the guy who put the put the chip in the

948
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:05,599
brain and the bowl and then stopped him with the button.

949
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:09,880
I forget his name at the moment. It starts with

950
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:13,840
a G. Anyways, Yeah, so that stuff all kind of

951
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:16,840
comes together. But people have done studies that you know,

952
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:18,960
they took a foil and put it around people's head

953
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:23,159
and they said it actually conducts the electricity more well,

954
00:52:23,199 --> 00:52:25,320
they left out the fact that you know, the foil

955
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:28,119
now is aluminum and it used to be tin, So

956
00:52:28,159 --> 00:52:30,960
it's a totally different compositive metal and you're trying to

957
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:33,840
sell it like, oh, this is just a crazy conspiracy theory.

958
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:35,159
Speaker 1: Well, actually tin would have worked.

959
00:52:35,679 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 2: You know, it's very interesting that they've tried to debunk

960
00:52:39,519 --> 00:52:41,360
it with a different metal and sell it like, oh,

961
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:43,480
it's just average tinfoil, but it's not.

962
00:52:43,599 --> 00:52:45,719
Speaker 1: It's aluminum. So anyway, very interesting.

963
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:48,079
Speaker 2: But so Julian Huxley and all this do have this

964
00:52:48,159 --> 00:52:51,599
kind of like very pervasive.

965
00:52:52,599 --> 00:52:53,360
Speaker 1: In this movement.

966
00:52:55,079 --> 00:52:58,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, it's huge. Yeah, because so part of the

967
00:52:58,119 --> 00:53:01,159
the idea is that you can have that we should

968
00:53:01,159 --> 00:53:03,880
all have superpowers. That's what that's one of theosophical ideas

969
00:53:04,039 --> 00:53:07,400
that say that they sold to their own initiates and

970
00:53:07,559 --> 00:53:11,440
and I guess the even the the exoteric level followers

971
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:13,840
as well, is that we all deserve to have superpowers,

972
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:19,320
except that our powers have been muddied. Yeah, and then

973
00:53:19,639 --> 00:53:23,239
you know, and and we could and that's over evolutionary.

974
00:53:22,639 --> 00:53:24,800
Speaker 1: Time powers materiality. Yeah.

975
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 3: Yeah.

976
00:53:25,599 --> 00:53:27,159
Speaker 1: Have you read The Secret History of the World?

977
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:32,039
Speaker 2: Uh no, you're like read up to the gills. You

978
00:53:32,039 --> 00:53:34,159
should check this book out though, because what it does

979
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:36,360
is it goes through the secret history of the world

980
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:38,199
according to the theosophist.

981
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:40,159
Speaker 1: So we started out as like.

982
00:53:40,119 --> 00:53:42,079
Speaker 2: Etheric beings, and as time went on, we were a

983
00:53:42,119 --> 00:53:45,320
mineral and plant, and then we were like androgynousts kind

984
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:48,440
of humanoids, and then we eventually became like you know,

985
00:53:48,519 --> 00:53:50,800
man and woman, and we still have this kind of

986
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:55,760
like less more transparent, you know body where we could

987
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:57,559
you know, our third eye was very active, and we

988
00:53:57,599 --> 00:54:00,639
had these latent abilities right like you said, for powers,

989
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:03,239
and we could connect with the gods on a more

990
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:07,239
personal basis. And as time went on, materiality became more solid,

991
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:11,000
and so as that happened, we started building massive structures

992
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:14,559
on lay lines with power, right like the Egyptian pyramids

993
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:18,559
that had these particular geometric sizes that thing could call

994
00:54:18,599 --> 00:54:21,239
the gods into them, so we could reconvene with the

995
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:24,159
gods like we used to. As time went on, we

996
00:54:24,199 --> 00:54:26,519
couldn't even do that. So it became so much more

997
00:54:26,599 --> 00:54:29,199
material that now, as you're saying, they want to bring

998
00:54:29,199 --> 00:54:31,000
those latent abilities back, but the only way to do

999
00:54:31,039 --> 00:54:34,920
it is digitally. So I think they're bringing these latent

1000
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:37,239
abilities back through like the elon and all these people

1001
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:40,079
talk about how you can speak without saying words and

1002
00:54:40,119 --> 00:54:40,760
things like that.

1003
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:43,559
Speaker 1: That is bringing this back. So yeah, I think all

1004
00:54:43,599 --> 00:54:44,199
this is connected.

1005
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:47,159
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, and there's an elements to this too that

1006
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:48,679
I know. We only have a few minutes left, so

1007
00:54:48,679 --> 00:54:50,719
I want to just have on this one idea that

1008
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:53,079
I realized we left hanging, which was the question of

1009
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:59,440
Israel Zionism. Is that so okay, two boats to be tied.

1010
00:54:59,519 --> 00:55:02,239
One the whole escellent idea was to create basically the

1011
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:04,159
x Men. So the fact that Eslin and the x

1012
00:55:04,199 --> 00:55:06,559
Men were created the same month in nineteen sixty two.

1013
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:11,320
Officially whoa yeah. Jeffrey Krippol the official biographer of the

1014
00:55:11,519 --> 00:55:14,960
of the Eslain Institute the Religion of No Religion. He

1015
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:18,679
takes great pride in his interviews and in the official

1016
00:55:18,679 --> 00:55:25,679
biography of the coincidence of the X Men special secret

1017
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:30,039
School for Gifted Mutants being broad online, which had such

1018
00:55:30,039 --> 00:55:32,039
a big influence in our culture in the imagination of

1019
00:55:32,039 --> 00:55:35,519
the young as well as the Esslin. He loves that

1020
00:55:35,559 --> 00:55:38,000
stuff and gets he gets the joke.

1021
00:55:38,079 --> 00:55:39,559
Speaker 1: He gets that just blew my mind.

1022
00:55:39,639 --> 00:55:39,880
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1023
00:55:40,039 --> 00:55:41,880
Speaker 2: Wow, I've been meaning to do some like comic book

1024
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:43,639
stuff because I know for a fact that that's like

1025
00:55:43,679 --> 00:55:44,559
all that is about.

1026
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:47,519
Speaker 1: Yes, like you know, the you know, the demi gods.

1027
00:55:47,559 --> 00:55:49,280
Speaker 2: You know, all that stuff is you know, permeated as

1028
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:52,079
Superman and totally so anyway, yeah, go ahead, bit wir.

1029
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:54,360
Speaker 3: And shit, and yeah.

1030
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:55,320
Speaker 1: Way more on the nose than I thought though. At

1031
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:56,599
the Esslin Institute, that's very.

1032
00:55:56,559 --> 00:55:58,559
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, totally in the nose. Yeah, it's very

1033
00:55:58,559 --> 00:56:02,639
self aware. Not a coincidence. And so, yeah, they want

1034
00:56:02,679 --> 00:56:05,639
to bring about they're they're they're trying to train elitist,

1035
00:56:07,079 --> 00:56:11,599
egotistical heroes of their own elucinian mystery play to basically

1036
00:56:11,639 --> 00:56:16,840
like feel like they're somehow special and endowed with special powers,

1037
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:19,679
whether it's the Uri Yellars or whatever. Then they create

1038
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:24,559
studies masquerading as science, but with the effect of trying

1039
00:56:24,599 --> 00:56:28,440
to basically trying to legitimize a cult black magic but

1040
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:31,079
selling it enlightened life language. And this becomes a very

1041
00:56:31,079 --> 00:56:33,800
big organizing principle of the entire hippie movement, the entire

1042
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:39,280
counterculture movement is entirely being tempered and shaped by this agency.

1043
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:42,800
This is this sort of weird spa think tank. I

1044
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:45,000
think it's kind of like a black magic cult center

1045
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:49,800
with an outward seemingly lightened life, kind of like hippie vibe.

1046
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:52,440
But they think there's something else going on inside. There's

1047
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:54,599
always like the dark side of the dynasty and thing.

1048
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:57,400
Speaker 2: Anybody who listens to Joe rogan I guarantee you you've

1049
00:56:57,400 --> 00:57:00,239
had Alan Watts pop up on your algorithm. And the

1050
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:03,599
reason why is because they're intrinsically tied with this escellent institute.

1051
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:03,880
Speaker 1: Move.

1052
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:08,679
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, you're being nudged. You're well being nudged by.

1053
00:57:08,639 --> 00:57:09,760
Speaker 1: The operator exist.

1054
00:57:11,519 --> 00:57:13,239
Speaker 3: So what was I gonna say?

1055
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:13,320
Speaker 1: So?

1056
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:16,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, yet that thing going on? They so part of

1057
00:57:16,039 --> 00:57:20,559
the idea is to yeah, seduce and make uh corrupt

1058
00:57:20,599 --> 00:57:23,920
the minds of especially those who will be enjoying leavers

1059
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:29,440
of influence in every department of life, corporate, media, political, military,

1060
00:57:29,519 --> 00:57:31,320
you name it. They did a pretty good job. They

1061
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:33,639
sent the seminars, they brought in the you know, the

1062
00:57:33,639 --> 00:57:38,000
Eastern Establishment of leads the graduates of Harvard of Yale

1063
00:57:38,079 --> 00:57:42,679
into various seminars combined with some sex, magic, orgies, whatever,

1064
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:45,840
a lot of psychedelic trips being guided ayahuasca trips, other

1065
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:48,519
things to help you like unlock your your special divine powers,

1066
00:57:49,199 --> 00:57:51,440
and then positioned back to be part of this aquarium

1067
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:53,840
conspiracy that the Sri I had also brought online, right

1068
00:57:54,199 --> 00:58:02,800
around Willis Harmon's assistant, uh Ferguson. One Ferguson, I think

1069
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:05,719
so yeah, And so it seems like that whole a

1070
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:08,840
queruing conspiracy, which is basically just HG. Wells's open conspiracy,

1071
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:12,000
but given more like Newage language was all just a

1072
00:58:12,039 --> 00:58:18,440
sub branch of the UH the SRI program that Willis

1073
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:20,320
Harmon ran on the on the images of.

1074
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 2: Man Stanford Research Institute and talking about the ultra.

1075
00:58:25,239 --> 00:58:29,639
Speaker 3: Stargate, you name it, the revolution, military affairs, all the ship.

1076
00:58:30,079 --> 00:58:31,719
So okay, how does this all tie back in now

1077
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:33,920
to what the the you know, they need to create

1078
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:38,519
this hate object of the convenience evil Jews around the

1079
00:58:38,519 --> 00:58:41,480
protocols Zion. Why do all of these why do all

1080
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:45,119
of these like Nazis like Eikman, Why are they obsessed

1081
00:58:45,159 --> 00:58:48,119
with learning Hebrew? But they're Nazis. They don't like the

1082
00:58:48,199 --> 00:58:50,679
Jews as a people, they really don't, but they are

1083
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:53,000
all obsessed with learning Hebrew so that they could study Kabala.

1084
00:58:53,639 --> 00:58:56,480
So do they think of kabbala as being an emanation

1085
00:58:56,559 --> 00:58:59,920
of something Jewish or the Jewish tradition? Hells no, they don't.

1086
00:59:00,079 --> 00:59:02,360
They recognize it correctly. So as a Babylonian form of

1087
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:03,519
magic from the Chelsea too.

1088
00:59:04,159 --> 00:59:04,639
Speaker 1: Thank you.

1089
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:06,920
Speaker 2: And I feel like Courtney Turner not'd say your name again.

1090
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:10,199
She's missing that where it's like I'm pointing out that

1091
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:13,119
the Jew Torah whatever she's trying to point out, is

1092
00:59:13,119 --> 00:59:16,159
completely separate from this movement that comes out of Babylon.

1093
00:59:17,079 --> 00:59:17,239
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1094
00:59:17,239 --> 00:59:18,679
Speaker 3: I mean, and you've got work together.

1095
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 2: You're a little bit like you know, some people work

1096
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:22,159
through that group like to pose is a good Jew

1097
00:59:22,239 --> 00:59:25,039
or whatever, But no, they're they're completely infiltrated by the

1098
00:59:25,039 --> 00:59:27,239
Babylonian cult that they were in.

1099
00:59:27,599 --> 00:59:29,840
Speaker 3: And I think overall the point of this whole thing

1100
00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:32,280
from those who were working in the nineteenth century from

1101
00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:34,960
the new Templar Order of Germany and the Templars around

1102
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:38,760
Edward the Seventh who creates the Palestinian and oversees the

1103
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:41,960
Palestinian Exploration Fund for the British Empire. All of these

1104
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:46,880
like Black magician high occultists who are so obsessed with

1105
00:59:47,119 --> 00:59:51,480
creating a homeland of Zion to like attract and bring

1106
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:52,920
in all of the Jews from the world, especially in

1107
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:54,760
Russia where there's a lot of Jews living in Russia.

1108
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:56,719
Will you got to make things very unlivable for them.

1109
00:59:56,719 --> 00:59:59,480
So the Protocols of Zion helps to convince the paranoid

1110
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:03,679
CSAR who's already like facing tons of destabilization, assassination threats.

1111
01:00:03,719 --> 01:00:07,119
He's like going crazy. So now he's all of a

1112
01:00:07,119 --> 01:00:09,719
sudden persuaded through reading this document that's been given to

1113
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:12,559
him by this hermetic ordericle and don like Crowley, that

1114
01:00:12,639 --> 01:00:16,119
the Jews really are behind overthrowing all of the monarchical

1115
01:00:16,159 --> 01:00:19,079
systems of the world to bring in their whole zion

1116
01:00:19,159 --> 01:00:22,239
world government. And so Britain, what's the solution, Zara Nicholas

1117
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:26,000
the second bring back the Pograms right down the Jews.

1118
01:00:26,079 --> 01:00:29,159
So make when that happens, that's really beneficial for the

1119
01:00:29,159 --> 01:00:32,440
Theodore Hurtzels out there, who's like this secular actually he's

1120
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:36,440
a misanthropic nominal Jew who actually doesn't even like Jews,

1121
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:41,159
and he's like writing letters to fellow supporters of Zionism

1122
01:00:41,599 --> 01:00:44,159
saying what a great thing anti Semitism is, that it's

1123
01:00:44,199 --> 01:00:47,199
growing and it's really like lending. It's giving support to

1124
01:00:47,239 --> 01:00:50,519
his fanatical obsession with creating a state of Zionism. And

1125
01:00:50,559 --> 01:00:53,000
in this particularly very useful region of the Middle East

1126
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:57,320
that's a hot spot historically. So that's one really great

1127
01:00:57,320 --> 01:01:01,159
way where even the Nazis, who are the cabalistic Nazis

1128
01:01:01,159 --> 01:01:04,639
from the German New Templar Order doing black magic and shit,

1129
01:01:04,679 --> 01:01:06,559
they're also obsessed with the same thing bringing in the

1130
01:01:06,599 --> 01:01:10,719
Havara Agreement, which is, you know, transferring tons of like

1131
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:13,079
sixty thousand Jews from Germany and then doing the same

1132
01:01:13,079 --> 01:01:18,320
thing in Poland and Czech Republic or Czechoslovakia into Israel.

1133
01:01:19,039 --> 01:01:22,360
That's what makes that work is the Nazis celebrating with

1134
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:25,800
like swistikas and stars of David coins to celebrate this,

1135
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:28,000
this whole thing, And you're like, this is all makes

1136
01:01:28,039 --> 01:01:29,199
no sense unless.

1137
01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:31,400
Speaker 2: You just pointed out this Swasa style start as a

1138
01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:34,519
David go ahead, that's exactly.

1139
01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:37,519
Speaker 3: And you're like, no, this is not a paradox. It's

1140
01:01:37,559 --> 01:01:40,840
not a paradox when you realize this is Babylonian black magic. Yes,

1141
01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:43,039
this is all of what it is. And at the

1142
01:01:43,119 --> 01:01:44,519
end of the day, I think what they really want

1143
01:01:44,519 --> 01:01:47,960
to do is what Rene Gerard, the guru of Peter Thiel,

1144
01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:51,039
had called for with his idea of the sacred sacrifice

1145
01:01:51,079 --> 01:01:55,480
the scapegoat. No shit, yeah, you've gotta that societies will

1146
01:01:55,480 --> 01:02:00,480
always degenerate in entropy because everybody is naturally self where

1147
01:02:00,519 --> 01:02:03,719
we mimic each other's desires, and so because of that

1148
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:10,679
tendency to increase selfishness in time to accumulate more for

1149
01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:13,599
the self at the expense of the future. That's what

1150
01:02:13,679 --> 01:02:16,559
he says natural human beings are, which is itself a lie.

1151
01:02:16,599 --> 01:02:18,719
But for the formula to work, that has to be true.

1152
01:02:19,159 --> 01:02:22,599
He's like, that will always result in more and more destabilizations,

1153
01:02:22,719 --> 01:02:26,199
disequilibrium of any system of humans, resulting in a complete

1154
01:02:26,239 --> 01:02:30,920
breakdown of that system, increase conflict, increased scarcity, decreased material

1155
01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:35,559
to go around. So unless all of the different factions

1156
01:02:36,079 --> 01:02:40,599
can be induced to have a collective sacrifice a scapegoat

1157
01:02:40,599 --> 01:02:42,760
that they could give the blame of their problems to

1158
01:02:43,039 --> 01:02:46,920
who they collectively enjoy the murder of, and then in

1159
01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:50,239
this case, convenient scapegoat for the world. Yes, that will

1160
01:02:50,239 --> 01:02:53,800
then absorb and dissolve a lot of that tension is

1161
01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:56,440
according to the current plan. But Israel has to be

1162
01:02:56,559 --> 01:02:59,239
the worst part of itself. It could possibly be. Yes, yes,

1163
01:02:59,239 --> 01:02:59,559
this is that.

1164
01:03:00,079 --> 01:03:01,599
Speaker 1: Yes, this is what's going on right now.

1165
01:03:01,639 --> 01:03:05,239
Speaker 2: This is the baffle met Coagula and and well, yeah, yep,

1166
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:07,559
and that is what you're talking about, the entropy, this idea,

1167
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:11,639
that's it. Yeah, beautiful man, beautiful, all right man, there's

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so much to get into. Uh, we'll have you back asap,

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matt whenever you are available.

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Speaker 1: Tell everybody where they can find you.

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Speaker 2: This was a very informative hour. And yeah, unfortunately we're

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both kind of short on time today, but we'll definitely

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do a bigger one later because there's just wow, we're

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really on the same page here. You've got a great

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amount of historical evidence to back up the stuff we

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talk about here.

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Speaker 1: So thank you very much.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, thank you dude for the conversation. This is

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this great way to start my day. And yeah, totally

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do this again. What I would say. Yeah, So the movies,

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the books that we do are easy to find on

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Canadian Patriot dot o RG Risingtide Foundation dot n et

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01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:54,519
net is another more educational cultural website foundation that my

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wife and I run and Substack Matthew Eric dot substack

1185
01:03:58,239 --> 01:04:01,000
dot com is I put stuff out every day, so

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there's a lot that you can access in your inbox

1187
01:04:03,719 --> 01:04:04,440
by subscribing.

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Speaker 2: I'll get on that in the show notes for the

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official episode when it comes out, But for the people

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streaming right now, you can check that out now or

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just wait and I will get this stuff put into

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the description so you could look at that with the leaks.

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Thanks a lot for that, and I will see around soon.

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Speaker 1: THANKI.

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Speaker 2: Joe, all right, thank you everybody. That was a crazy hour.

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We only had an hour. I wish I would have

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had more time with him because there.

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Speaker 1: Is just so much to get into.

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Speaker 2: We just kind of started touching on the Escellent Institute

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because I've been doing a lot of research into into

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this guy who passed away. His name's Matthew North and

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he's not with us anymore, but he was covering a

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lot of the connections with the Escellent Institute, the sphere

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01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:54,199
of Joe Rogan, the sphere of this kind of psychedelic

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01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:58,400
intelligence community sy OP that's being pushed right now through

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the you know, influencers like Joe Rogan, and I think

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01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:04,639
it's a big deal. You know, this kid died right

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01:05:04,679 --> 01:05:07,480
after talking about it. But Matthew clearly has a lot

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of evidence to back up what the kid was talking about,

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which is that there is this cosmist or Russian Soviet

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infiltration that's going on in the psychedelic movement.

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Speaker 1: And yes, the scapegoat is Israel.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't mean that there's not some truth in that,

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because it was created by the Babylonian Black and Black

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magicians in order to be the scapegoat. And so if

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we can understand that, then we can understand how we're

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being used. Then we're being manipulated into a new world,

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a new world order, if you will, a brave new world.

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And so we'll be covering this a little bit more

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of the Esslin Institute and Matthew North's work. I'm a

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little bit nervous to get into it because he did

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01:05:45,679 --> 01:05:48,400
die after covering this, and so I'm trying to find

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a good way to disseminate this information where it's the

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01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:56,639
safest for me. So I'll figure that out, maybe get

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a few people at the same time to talk about this.

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I'm not really sure trying to figure that out, but

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for now, be on the lookout for that. I will

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be covering that here soon and other than that, i'll

1229
01:06:07,679 --> 01:06:11,719
be live tonight six o'clock. I'll be live at six

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Central about six hours and we'll be getting into the

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01:06:16,239 --> 01:06:19,760
dialogue from Peter Teal Peter Thiel's dialogue, and we'll also

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cover some spy companies you may not have heard of

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that are kind of you know, they're up there with

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01:06:27,159 --> 01:06:30,360
palants here, so very important to get into those as well.

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Speaker 1: Probably have ne F Hunter with me.

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Speaker 2: But other than that, thank you guys, and yeah, it

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was a great episode with Matt.

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Speaker 1: He's awesome.

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Speaker 2: Go follow him, go like and share, and I'll see

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you guys here later tonight.