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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Catherine Jileco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't

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<v Speaker 1>help but see everything through a parenting lens. But as

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<v Speaker 1>our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested

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<v Speaker 1>in getting caught up on movies and streaming than I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going over the same parenting topics over and over.

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<v Speaker 2>So since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom anywhere,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we

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<v Speaker 2>thought about it, and maybe what we can learn from it,

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<v Speaker 2>if only what not to do. Watch and listen along,

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<v Speaker 2>and let's all make like we're doing something important for

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<v Speaker 2>our families.

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<v Speaker 1>Each Tuesday, we bring you a watch or rewatch of

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<v Speaker 1>an older entertainment property, And for this week of June second,

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<v Speaker 1>we are continuing with Lost, Season three, episode one, a

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<v Speaker 1>Tale of two Cities. Don't get the title, but there

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<v Speaker 1>was a lot going on.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I thought the title meant you know, the city

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<v Speaker 2>where the others live and the you know, beachside encampment

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<v Speaker 2>where the castaways lived.

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<v Speaker 1>So we did not see that that city. We did,

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<v Speaker 1>but we did see the quaint fifty style village that

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<v Speaker 1>the others were living in having book club.

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<v Speaker 2>And baking muffins, baking muffins, burning MUDs.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, and we got to meet Juliette, who it should

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<v Speaker 1>be no surprise, will see you prominently to now on Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>laid by Elizabeth Mitchell. So I was happy to see her.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, people I remember being on the show such

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<v Speaker 1>a big part of the show, and it's like for

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<v Speaker 1>the first two seasons they're nowhere to be found.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, wasn't there?

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<v Speaker 1>Wasn't there a blonde here?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>I knew she was coming, I forgot that it was

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<v Speaker 1>the episode. So hey there Juliet, good to see you.

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<v Speaker 1>Lots of fun ahead, right, So that was something new

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<v Speaker 1>on this show, something old on this show. Jack kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a mess.

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<v Speaker 2>Jack and his daddy issues.

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<v Speaker 3>Once again, I don't feel like we learned anything we

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<v Speaker 3>didn't already know, other than just watching him fall apart

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<v Speaker 3>and drag his dad down with him.

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<v Speaker 1>So, you know, nothing to see here, move along, perhaps.

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<v Speaker 2>Going back for a couple of minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>She is just to look disgusted. Honestly, you know, there's

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<v Speaker 1>no reason why she needs to tell him anything. But

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<v Speaker 1>is there a reason why not to? Does he think?

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<v Speaker 1>I guess she thinks he's going to come after him,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's It would not be hard to find him. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he could pay a private detective to do that. But

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<v Speaker 1>just the whole thing, like, the more they go into

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<v Speaker 1>new and exciting things happening on the island, the less

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<v Speaker 1>you really want to see past Jack again. Got it,

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<v Speaker 1>we got it.

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<v Speaker 2>We're clear.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a mess. His dad's a mess. We got it.

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<v Speaker 1>We've been there, We've seen it a whole bunch of times.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks done. How about these new people, right?

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<v Speaker 2>Did you know they have a whole little village.

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<v Speaker 1>Kind of wonder how they got there. Maybe there would

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<v Speaker 1>be an interesting bagstory. Yeah, just yeah, okay, it just

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<v Speaker 1>feels like well worn ground. But you know, actor has

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<v Speaker 1>it in his contract he has to have X number

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<v Speaker 1>of flashbacks a year or so. Yeah, burn it off

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<v Speaker 1>here at the beginning, and so he's a in a

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<v Speaker 1>prisoni ise situation underwater. Sawyer is in a cage apparently

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<v Speaker 1>obviously used for bears, and he he how long have

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<v Speaker 1>those bear crackers been there in the pipeline?

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder?

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<v Speaker 1>Right? When she eats and h Kate is given a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty little frock and brought to the beach to breakfast

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<v Speaker 1>with Ben. Right, So she then later on eats a

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<v Speaker 1>bear cracker, So I don't know if she still was

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<v Speaker 1>the yeah to partake?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think she she must have refused, or at

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<v Speaker 2>least that's the impression we're supposed to get, that she

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<v Speaker 2>refused Ben's lovely, you know, beachside breakfast that he offered her.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I gotta think if she's crunching on the bear cracker,

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<v Speaker 1>she's thinking, maybe I should eaten something, right.

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<v Speaker 2>I could have.

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<v Speaker 1>I would have ended.

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<v Speaker 2>Right like nothing was going to change, but I would

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<v Speaker 2>have had a little food in my belly.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, yeah, coffee. How long has it been since

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<v Speaker 1>they've had coffee?

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<v Speaker 2>You would think that that?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think I might have just humored him

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<v Speaker 2>I would think there would have been some on the plane, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, that's true. I wonder if there's Darmer brand coffee

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<v Speaker 1>in those drops? Yeah, like they Dharma brand coffee maker,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know yeah, in the hatch and the drop and the

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<v Speaker 2>plane there must have been some options.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, not good coffee. No, And now we can finally

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<v Speaker 1>call Ben ben Yeah. Yeah, Benjamin Linus is his full name,

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<v Speaker 1>but we all know him for now is Ben.

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<v Speaker 2>Ben, But and he seems to be in charge.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes he does, and of a very odd place.

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<v Speaker 1>It does not seem to be in its proper time period.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Once again, as we've discussed, what we need is more people.

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<v Speaker 2>And now we have Ben, we have Juliet, we have

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<v Speaker 2>whatever lady was at the book club. We have Tom

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<v Speaker 2>we have met before. But he's right getting a little

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<v Speaker 2>more screen time, like.

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<v Speaker 1>All sorts of people. Yeah, when do we get there flashbacks?

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<v Speaker 1>We how many more Jack flashbacks do we have to

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<v Speaker 1>get before? Oh golly, you know, given what was going

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<v Speaker 1>on in his life before his plane crash, he must

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<v Speaker 1>have kind of dug being like having a chance to

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<v Speaker 1>be a respectable person again for a little while. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>for everybody before his personality caught up with him.

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<v Speaker 2>Indeed.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but there's a young man that oh yeah, Thatsy,

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<v Speaker 1>you're out. Yeah, that's another name at some point, Carl, Carl.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yes, Carl, I remember Carl. Let's say about Carl

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<v Speaker 1>right now the better. But yeah, so he's there and

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<v Speaker 1>he's looking like he maybe is not with the program.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, these.

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<v Speaker 1>These adolescents, they'll they'll buck authority. Also, we need this

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<v Speaker 1>kid for Kate. So yeah, move on right, right, So

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<v Speaker 1>there's a underwater station and all sorts of stuff, right,

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit a little bit of civilization there in

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<v Speaker 1>the jungle, apparently. So what do we suppose they have

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<v Speaker 1>in mind for these guys?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I did the idea.

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<v Speaker 2>It was kind of like head scratching, you know, like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so Jack is in this kind of lock up, and

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<v Speaker 2>Sawyer's in this other kind of lock up, and Kate's

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<v Speaker 2>in the getting a shower and locker room, and but

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<v Speaker 2>then she's put in with so like, look, there's just

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<v Speaker 2>there's just a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and again it's like we would like more information

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<v Speaker 1>in figuring out what's going on here and not Oh

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<v Speaker 1>my gosh, Jack is demanding to know things in the

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<v Speaker 1>past again. Does he really think his dad is her

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<v Speaker 1>new guy? Yeah? Does he really think that there could

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<v Speaker 1>be other reasons for her to call him? You know?

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<v Speaker 2>Bye?

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<v Speaker 1>Just just excruciating. Yeah, So move along, creators, move along.

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<v Speaker 1>You've you've created some interesting things here. Let's let's uh,

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<v Speaker 1>let's leave those particular flashbacks behind, right spoiler So great,

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<v Speaker 1>there's definitely some contractual obligations regarding flashbags. Is the only

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<v Speaker 1>way I can figure it out, because things get quite desperate. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>to come up with more things to do about Jack Jack.

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<v Speaker 2>Jack Jack Jack Jack.

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<v Speaker 1>What else do we have from this?

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<v Speaker 2>We really don't get anything from the rest of the castaways,

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<v Speaker 2>So mister Echo is still like potentially unconscious or.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, dead, They can't have just like one look over there.

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<v Speaker 1>We have Sayid and Son and Jin on a boat. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>we have a implosion at the hatch. We have whatever

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<v Speaker 1>the credits there were some names that came up which

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<v Speaker 1>are of people that we didn't see in this episode,

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<v Speaker 1>but in particular Kilee Sanchez and Rodriguez Santoro will be

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<v Speaker 1>figure briefly ahead. But I'm surprised their names were even

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<v Speaker 1>in the credits at this point because we sure didn't

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<v Speaker 1>get anything from them. Right, So Rodrigo Santoro having played

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<v Speaker 1>the handsome coworker that Laura Lenny fails to uh guy.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, so it's it's a new day, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>new season. We got some old baggage, but we also

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<v Speaker 1>have all sorts of new sets and all sorts of

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<v Speaker 1>new characters, and you know, let's move it along, shall

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<v Speaker 1>we Yeah, I want to get to the good stuff, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So what what parenting lessons do we draw from this?

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<v Speaker 1>When somebody tells you, don't do that children, don't do that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, don't push that button, don't push.

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<v Speaker 1>That button, don't open that door.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Sometimes don't cracker that fish shaped bear cracker.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes the adults are messing with you. Sometimes they're just

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<v Speaker 1>being authoritarian. But sometimes you open the door in the

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<v Speaker 1>room fills up with water, So you know, maybe maybe

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<v Speaker 1>just listen. If somebody serves you a nice breakfast, eat

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<v Speaker 1>the breakfast, just eat it. Even if you have philosophical

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<v Speaker 1>objections to things that this person is doing, eat the breakfast.

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<v Speaker 1>You know you're going to need your strength for later,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. If you're gonna kids, if you're gonna help

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<v Speaker 1>somebody get out of a cage, make sure nobody's watching

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<v Speaker 1>you and kids. Respect your parents and don't yell at

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<v Speaker 1>them and accuse them of things and cause them to

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<v Speaker 1>go off the wagon.

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<v Speaker 2>Shove them in the middle of an AA meeting, Shove

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<v Speaker 2>them to the ground in front of all their counterparts.

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<v Speaker 1>Right right, not good, you know, and then whatever happens

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<v Speaker 1>is on you. Now he goes back to drinking but

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<v Speaker 1>after this is when he's gallivanting around Australia with analysia, right, right, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just trying to figure out what comes when. So

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<v Speaker 1>he's still got some his dad still has some storyline ahead. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because in the timeline of the show, right, And because

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<v Speaker 1>in the you'll ever see him again in flashbacks? I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. Over again, you're.

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<v Speaker 2>Playing a dead guy, but don't worry, you'll get plenty

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<v Speaker 2>of screen time.

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody needs to like go through the annals of television

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<v Speaker 1>and find out what dead person has the most screen time.

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<v Speaker 1>I think this guy's in. I think this guy's on

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<v Speaker 1>the running dies in like the first moments of the show. Well, no,

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<v Speaker 1>you know he dies before the show before, Yeah, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and yet cuts quite the face so long, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's a good tip here for everybody to remember,

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<v Speaker 1>parents and kids, which is, put your clothes when you

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<v Speaker 1>shower and you're in a not not trustworthy place, keep

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<v Speaker 1>your clothes where you can see them. Rookie mistake, Kate,

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<v Speaker 1>Come on, how could you not have put your clothes

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<v Speaker 1>someplace where they could not just sneak out and burn them?

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<v Speaker 1>And that dress is very attractive, but it's not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be good for running through the jungle.

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<v Speaker 2>Not going to be comfortable.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna have to get some fatigues or something, some sweats.

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<v Speaker 2>Some kind of crop top and pants situation. Yeah, seems to.

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<v Speaker 1>Be like Kate's already part of a triangle. You guys,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna come on, she's cute, but she got cute. Well.

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<v Speaker 1>I liked there was a line where somebody says, you

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<v Speaker 1>think I'm stupid, and the reply is, I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>you're stupid. I think you're stubborn, which is, uh, sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like a thing a parent could say to a kid. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>because you are stubborn, you keep doing dumb things. Stop it,

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<v Speaker 1>let it go. Listen to somebody else, even if it

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<v Speaker 1>is an evil person that you don't trust.

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<v Speaker 2>You know well, And that is what Jack Stade kept

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<v Speaker 2>saying to him.

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<v Speaker 1>Let it go, let it go, Let it go, Let

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<v Speaker 1>it go, Let it go. Is a good thing to

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<v Speaker 1>teach your children as a parenting tip, but on the

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<v Speaker 1>other hand, an extremely difficult thing to do as a parent.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me tell you about the people who I had

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<v Speaker 1>a hard time with when my kids are in school,

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<v Speaker 1>shall we? You guys got to me. I have names

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<v Speaker 1>I have dates, I have exact so but yeah, sure

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<v Speaker 1>sure yeah, water under the bridge. I tell you about

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<v Speaker 1>this one time this person said this, So yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>that's what all my flashbacks would be. My flashbacks would

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<v Speaker 1>all be IEP meetings and uh, you know, tense confrontations in.

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<v Speaker 2>A hallway right good times.

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<v Speaker 1>People would say, why can't she just let it go?

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<v Speaker 1>I feel you, Jack, you know, you know, maybe you

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<v Speaker 1>and I are a lot alike.

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<v Speaker 2>We're not so different, you and me.

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<v Speaker 1>Give me the accommodation. You can't have therapy. In the

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<v Speaker 1>back of the lunch room, people are rolling their eyes

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<v Speaker 1>and gone, missus.

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<v Speaker 2>Morrow, she's back, she's back.

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<v Speaker 1>Can we arrange for her to be abandoned on an

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<v Speaker 1>island somewhere? Cul churls would moore see what he could do? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's a whole new season of Lost.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was a car outside my window.

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<v Speaker 1>They're listening to us, apparently will be coming any minute

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<v Speaker 1>to take us to the island.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, oh well yep, so here we go.

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<v Speaker 1>Get a nice breakfast there and good coffee and muffins.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, if they were well, they were burned.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, but I bet, I bet she could try again.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll make a nice muffin. You know those houses looked cute.

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<v Speaker 2>They did.

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<v Speaker 1>They got a book club, so you're you're in that is?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it was a Stephen King book, but I couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>tell which one it was. It's Ben's favorite, it Spend's

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<v Speaker 2>least favorite, as his least favorite, Juliet's favorite, and Ben

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, well, yeah, we got any flashbacks on Ben? We

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<v Speaker 1>have not had any flashbacks on Ben, have we? No,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of where he came from.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a lot to unpack there, I'm pretty sure.

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<v Speaker 1>First, Kate, did you know she's a fugitive and Sawyer

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<v Speaker 1>he's a con man? Let's look again at that?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes her? Enough about that?

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<v Speaker 3>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Come on moving along, we'd like to see some

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<v Speaker 1>new flashbacks, please, right blaze. So next Tuesday we will

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<v Speaker 1>continue with season three, episode two of Lost the Glass Ballerina. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I believe.

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<v Speaker 2>We will Sun and Gin, Yes, sar.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, did you know that they had a tense marriage

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<v Speaker 1>and problems conceding and she had a boyfriend. Let's revisit

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<v Speaker 1>that again? Shall we? Never mind? All these new people

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<v Speaker 1>with interesting looking backstories. We got right, We gotta burn

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<v Speaker 1>off some of these ones for the old people first.

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<v Speaker 1>Hang on, It'll be fine. So we will see you

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<v Speaker 1>back here tomorrow to discuss Duster, in which Josh Holloway

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<v Speaker 1>has pretty much exactly the same haircut. Yeah, thank you

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