Speaker 1: Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and
Speaker 1: I'm Catherine Jileco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't
Speaker 1: help but see everything through a parenting lens. But as
Speaker 1: our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested
Speaker 1: in getting caught up on movies and streaming than I'm
Speaker 1: going over the same parenting topics over and over.
Speaker 2: So since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom anywhere,
Speaker 2: we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we
Speaker 2: thought about it, and maybe what we can learn from it,
Speaker 2: if only what not to do. Watch and listen along,
Speaker 2: and let's all make like we're doing something important for
Speaker 2: our families.
Speaker 1: Each Tuesday, we bring you a watch or rewatch of
Speaker 1: an older entertainment property, And for this week of June second,
Speaker 1: we are continuing with Lost, Season three, episode one, a
Speaker 1: Tale of two Cities. Don't get the title, but there
Speaker 1: was a lot going on.
Speaker 2: Oh I thought the title meant you know, the city
Speaker 2: where the others live and the you know, beachside encampment
Speaker 2: where the castaways lived.
Speaker 1: So we did not see that that city. We did,
Speaker 1: but we did see the quaint fifty style village that
Speaker 1: the others were living in having book club.
Speaker 2: And baking muffins, baking muffins, burning MUDs.
Speaker 1: Yes, and we got to meet Juliette, who it should
Speaker 1: be no surprise, will see you prominently to now on Yes,
Speaker 1: laid by Elizabeth Mitchell. So I was happy to see her.
Speaker 1: It's like, people I remember being on the show such
Speaker 1: a big part of the show, and it's like for
Speaker 1: the first two seasons they're nowhere to be found.
Speaker 2: Yeah, wasn't there?
Speaker 1: Wasn't there a blonde here?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: I knew she was coming, I forgot that it was
Speaker 1: the episode. So hey there Juliet, good to see you.
Speaker 1: Lots of fun ahead, right, So that was something new
Speaker 1: on this show, something old on this show. Jack kind
Speaker 1: of a mess.
Speaker 2: Jack and his daddy issues.
Speaker 3: Once again, I don't feel like we learned anything we
Speaker 3: didn't already know, other than just watching him fall apart
Speaker 3: and drag his dad down with him.
Speaker 1: So, you know, nothing to see here, move along, perhaps.
Speaker 2: Going back for a couple of minutes.
Speaker 1: She is just to look disgusted. Honestly, you know, there's
Speaker 1: no reason why she needs to tell him anything. But
Speaker 1: is there a reason why not to? Does he think?
Speaker 1: I guess she thinks he's going to come after him,
Speaker 1: but he's It would not be hard to find him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he could pay a private detective to do that. But
Speaker 1: just the whole thing, like, the more they go into
Speaker 1: new and exciting things happening on the island, the less
Speaker 1: you really want to see past Jack again. Got it,
Speaker 1: we got it.
Speaker 2: We're clear.
Speaker 1: He's a mess. His dad's a mess. We got it.
Speaker 1: We've been there, We've seen it a whole bunch of times.
Speaker 1: Thanks done. How about these new people, right?
Speaker 2: Did you know they have a whole little village.
Speaker 1: Kind of wonder how they got there. Maybe there would
Speaker 1: be an interesting bagstory. Yeah, just yeah, okay, it just
Speaker 1: feels like well worn ground. But you know, actor has
Speaker 1: it in his contract he has to have X number
Speaker 1: of flashbacks a year or so. Yeah, burn it off
Speaker 1: here at the beginning, and so he's a in a
Speaker 1: prisoni ise situation underwater. Sawyer is in a cage apparently
Speaker 1: obviously used for bears, and he he how long have
Speaker 1: those bear crackers been there in the pipeline?
Speaker 2: I wonder?
Speaker 1: Right? When she eats and h Kate is given a
Speaker 1: pretty little frock and brought to the beach to breakfast
Speaker 1: with Ben. Right, So she then later on eats a
Speaker 1: bear cracker, So I don't know if she still was
Speaker 1: the yeah to partake?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think she she must have refused, or at
Speaker 2: least that's the impression we're supposed to get, that she
Speaker 2: refused Ben's lovely, you know, beachside breakfast that he offered her.
Speaker 1: Yes, I gotta think if she's crunching on the bear cracker,
Speaker 1: she's thinking, maybe I should eaten something, right.
Speaker 2: I could have.
Speaker 1: I would have ended.
Speaker 2: Right like nothing was going to change, but I would
Speaker 2: have had a little food in my belly.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yeah, coffee. How long has it been since
Speaker 1: they've had coffee?
Speaker 2: You would think that that?
Speaker 1: I mean, I think I might have just humored him
Speaker 1: for coffee.
Speaker 2: I would think there would have been some on the plane, right.
Speaker 1: Oh, that's true. I wonder if there's Darmer brand coffee
Speaker 1: in those drops? Yeah, like they Dharma brand coffee maker,
Speaker 1: and uh you.
Speaker 2: Know yeah, in the hatch and the drop and the
Speaker 2: plane there must have been some options.
Speaker 1: Yeah, not good coffee. No, And now we can finally
Speaker 1: call Ben ben Yeah. Yeah, Benjamin Linus is his full name,
Speaker 1: but we all know him for now is Ben.
Speaker 2: Ben, But and he seems to be in charge.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes he does, and of a very odd place.
Speaker 1: It does not seem to be in its proper time period.
Speaker 1: But yeah, and.
Speaker 2: Once again, as we've discussed, what we need is more people.
Speaker 2: And now we have Ben, we have Juliet, we have
Speaker 2: whatever lady was at the book club. We have Tom
Speaker 2: we have met before. But he's right getting a little
Speaker 2: more screen time, like.
Speaker 1: All sorts of people. Yeah, when do we get there flashbacks?
Speaker 1: We how many more Jack flashbacks do we have to
Speaker 1: get before? Oh golly, you know, given what was going
Speaker 1: on in his life before his plane crash, he must
Speaker 1: have kind of dug being like having a chance to
Speaker 1: be a respectable person again for a little while. Yeah,
Speaker 1: for everybody before his personality caught up with him.
Speaker 2: Indeed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but there's a young man that oh yeah, Thatsy,
Speaker 1: you're out. Yeah, that's another name at some point, Carl, Carl.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, Carl, I remember Carl. Let's say about Carl
Speaker 1: right now the better. But yeah, so he's there and
Speaker 1: he's looking like he maybe is not with the program.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, these.
Speaker 1: These adolescents, they'll they'll buck authority. Also, we need this
Speaker 1: kid for Kate. So yeah, move on right, right, So
Speaker 1: there's a underwater station and all sorts of stuff, right,
Speaker 1: a little bit a little bit of civilization there in
Speaker 1: the jungle, apparently. So what do we suppose they have
Speaker 1: in mind for these guys?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I did the idea.
Speaker 2: It was kind of like head scratching, you know, like, Okay,
Speaker 2: so Jack is in this kind of lock up, and
Speaker 2: Sawyer's in this other kind of lock up, and Kate's
Speaker 2: in the getting a shower and locker room, and but
Speaker 2: then she's put in with so like, look, there's just
Speaker 2: there's just a lot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and again it's like we would like more information
Speaker 1: in figuring out what's going on here and not Oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, Jack is demanding to know things in the
Speaker 1: past again. Does he really think his dad is her
Speaker 1: new guy? Yeah? Does he really think that there could
Speaker 1: be other reasons for her to call him? You know?
Speaker 2: Bye?
Speaker 1: Just just excruciating. Yeah, So move along, creators, move along.
Speaker 1: You've you've created some interesting things here. Let's let's uh,
Speaker 1: let's leave those particular flashbacks behind, right spoiler So great,
Speaker 1: there's definitely some contractual obligations regarding flashbags. Is the only
Speaker 1: way I can figure it out, because things get quite desperate. Yeah,
Speaker 1: to come up with more things to do about Jack Jack.
Speaker 2: Jack Jack Jack Jack.
Speaker 1: What else do we have from this?
Speaker 2: We really don't get anything from the rest of the castaways,
Speaker 2: So mister Echo is still like potentially unconscious or.
Speaker 1: Yes, dead, They can't have just like one look over there.
Speaker 1: We have Sayid and Son and Jin on a boat. Right,
Speaker 1: we have a implosion at the hatch. We have whatever
Speaker 1: is going on. I noticed like at the beginning of
Speaker 1: the credits there were some names that came up which
Speaker 1: are of people that we didn't see in this episode,
Speaker 1: but in particular Kilee Sanchez and Rodriguez Santoro will be
Speaker 1: figure briefly ahead. But I'm surprised their names were even
Speaker 1: in the credits at this point because we sure didn't
Speaker 1: get anything from them. Right, So Rodrigo Santoro having played
Speaker 1: the handsome coworker that Laura Lenny fails to uh guy.
Speaker 1: But anyway, so it's it's a new day, it's a
Speaker 1: new season. We got some old baggage, but we also
Speaker 1: have all sorts of new sets and all sorts of
Speaker 1: new characters, and you know, let's move it along, shall
Speaker 1: we Yeah, I want to get to the good stuff, right,
Speaker 1: So what what parenting lessons do we draw from this?
Speaker 1: When somebody tells you, don't do that children, don't do that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't push that button, don't push.
Speaker 1: That button, don't open that door.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Sometimes don't cracker that fish shaped bear cracker.
Speaker 1: Sometimes the adults are messing with you. Sometimes they're just
Speaker 1: being authoritarian. But sometimes you open the door in the
Speaker 1: room fills up with water, So you know, maybe maybe
Speaker 1: just listen. If somebody serves you a nice breakfast, eat
Speaker 1: the breakfast, just eat it. Even if you have philosophical
Speaker 1: objections to things that this person is doing, eat the breakfast.
Speaker 1: You know you're going to need your strength for later,
Speaker 1: you know. If you're gonna kids, if you're gonna help
Speaker 1: somebody get out of a cage, make sure nobody's watching
Speaker 1: you and kids. Respect your parents and don't yell at
Speaker 1: them and accuse them of things and cause them to
Speaker 1: go off the wagon.
Speaker 2: Shove them in the middle of an AA meeting, Shove
Speaker 2: them to the ground in front of all their counterparts.
Speaker 1: Right right, not good, you know, and then whatever happens
Speaker 1: is on you. Now he goes back to drinking but
Speaker 1: after this is when he's gallivanting around Australia with analysia, right, right, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to figure out what comes when. So
Speaker 1: he's still got some his dad still has some storyline ahead. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because in the timeline of the show, right, And because
Speaker 1: in the you'll ever see him again in flashbacks? I
Speaker 1: don't know. Over again, you're.
Speaker 2: Playing a dead guy, but don't worry, you'll get plenty
Speaker 2: of screen time.
Speaker 1: Somebody needs to like go through the annals of television
Speaker 1: and find out what dead person has the most screen time.
Speaker 1: I think this guy's in. I think this guy's on
Speaker 1: the running dies in like the first moments of the show. Well, no,
Speaker 1: you know he dies before the show before, Yeah, yes,
Speaker 1: and yet cuts quite the face so long, you know.
Speaker 1: I think there's a good tip here for everybody to remember,
Speaker 1: parents and kids, which is, put your clothes when you
Speaker 1: shower and you're in a not not trustworthy place, keep
Speaker 1: your clothes where you can see them. Rookie mistake, Kate,
Speaker 1: Come on, how could you not have put your clothes
Speaker 1: someplace where they could not just sneak out and burn them?
Speaker 1: And that dress is very attractive, but it's not gonna
Speaker 1: be good for running through the jungle.
Speaker 2: Not going to be comfortable.
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to get some fatigues or something, some sweats.
Speaker 2: Some kind of crop top and pants situation. Yeah, seems to.
Speaker 1: Be like Kate's already part of a triangle. You guys,
Speaker 1: you're gonna come on, she's cute, but she got cute. Well.
Speaker 1: I liked there was a line where somebody says, you
Speaker 1: think I'm stupid, and the reply is, I don't think
Speaker 1: you're stupid. I think you're stubborn, which is, uh, sounds
Speaker 1: like a thing a parent could say to a kid. Yes,
Speaker 1: because you are stubborn, you keep doing dumb things. Stop it,
Speaker 1: let it go. Listen to somebody else, even if it
Speaker 1: is an evil person that you don't trust.
Speaker 2: You know well, And that is what Jack Stade kept
Speaker 2: saying to him.
Speaker 1: Let it go, let it go, Let it go, Let
Speaker 1: it go, Let it go. Is a good thing to
Speaker 1: teach your children as a parenting tip, but on the
Speaker 1: other hand, an extremely difficult thing to do as a parent.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you about the people who I had
Speaker 1: a hard time with when my kids are in school,
Speaker 1: shall we? You guys got to me. I have names
Speaker 1: I have dates, I have exact so but yeah, sure
Speaker 1: sure yeah, water under the bridge. I tell you about
Speaker 1: this one time this person said this, So yeah, I
Speaker 1: still can break out into that in a second. So
Speaker 1: that's what all my flashbacks would be. My flashbacks would
Speaker 1: all be IEP meetings and uh, you know, tense confrontations in.
Speaker 2: A hallway right good times.
Speaker 1: People would say, why can't she just let it go?
Speaker 1: I feel you, Jack, you know, you know, maybe you
Speaker 1: and I are a lot alike.
Speaker 2: We're not so different, you and me.
Speaker 1: Give me the accommodation. You can't have therapy. In the
Speaker 1: back of the lunch room, people are rolling their eyes
Speaker 1: and gone, missus.
Speaker 2: Morrow, she's back, she's back.
Speaker 1: Can we arrange for her to be abandoned on an
Speaker 1: island somewhere? Cul churls would moore see what he could do? Yeah,
Speaker 1: so it's a whole new season of Lost.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a car outside my window.
Speaker 1: They're listening to us, apparently will be coming any minute
Speaker 1: to take us to the island.
Speaker 2: Yes, oh well yep, so here we go.
Speaker 1: Get a nice breakfast there and good coffee and muffins.
Speaker 2: You know, if they were well, they were burned.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but I bet, I bet she could try again.
Speaker 1: I'll make a nice muffin. You know those houses looked cute.
Speaker 2: They did.
Speaker 1: They got a book club, so you're you're in that is?
Speaker 2: Yes, it was a Stephen King book, but I couldn't
Speaker 2: tell which one it was. It's Ben's favorite, it Spend's
Speaker 2: least favorite, as his least favorite, Juliet's favorite, and Ben
Speaker 2: is refusing to read it.
Speaker 1: Okay, well, yeah, we got any flashbacks on Ben? We
Speaker 1: have not had any flashbacks on Ben, have we? No,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of where he came from.
Speaker 2: There's a lot to unpack there, I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 1: First, Kate, did you know she's a fugitive and Sawyer
Speaker 1: he's a con man? Let's look again at that?
Speaker 2: Yes her? Enough about that?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Come on moving along, we'd like to see some
Speaker 1: new flashbacks, please, right blaze. So next Tuesday we will
Speaker 1: continue with season three, episode two of Lost the Glass Ballerina. Okay,
Speaker 1: I believe.
Speaker 2: We will Sun and Gin, Yes, sar.
Speaker 1: Right, did you know that they had a tense marriage
Speaker 1: and problems conceding and she had a boyfriend. Let's revisit
Speaker 1: that again? Shall we? Never mind? All these new people
Speaker 1: with interesting looking backstories. We got right, We gotta burn
Speaker 1: off some of these ones for the old people first.
Speaker 1: Hang on, It'll be fine. So we will see you
Speaker 1: back here tomorrow to discuss Duster, in which Josh Holloway
Speaker 1: has pretty much exactly the same haircut. Yeah, thank you
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