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<v Speaker 1>With Dan Ray. I'm going Boston's.

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<v Speaker 2>I really love doing a four hour show because I

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<v Speaker 2>get a chance to rotate through three or four different guests.

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<v Speaker 2>I've already had two tonight, and now this is my third.

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<v Speaker 2>A woman I've interviewed on a couple of occasions in

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<v Speaker 2>the past. She's the one who wrote that book on

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<v Speaker 2>candlepin bowling, a mainstay in New England. She and I

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<v Speaker 2>were supposed to have a bowl off challenge. It never

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<v Speaker 2>got off the ground, but trust me, you're lucky. You

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<v Speaker 2>are lucky, Susan. I am holding back. I would have

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<v Speaker 2>wiped the lanes with you.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I'm ready.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to hear your knees knocking from fear. The

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<v Speaker 2>voice you hear in the background is Susan Brigman, and

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<v Speaker 2>she's written a number of books, is working on a third,

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<v Speaker 2>which we're going to touch upon this hour. But the

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<v Speaker 2>reason that I have for now is to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>Route one. So tell people the titles of both of

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<v Speaker 2>your books and put a little spotlight on Root one.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure, Hi, I'm Morgan, happy to be here tonight. I've

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<v Speaker 3>actually written three books. My first book was called New

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<v Speaker 3>England Neon, and then the second was New England Candlepin Bowling.

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<v Speaker 3>And the third, which we're going to talk about tonight,

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<v Speaker 3>is called a Long Route one Maine, New Hampshire and Massachusetts.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, And there's a fourth one you want to four.

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<v Speaker 3>The fourth one is in the works, and it's called

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<v Speaker 3>New England Sweets, and it's about candy and cookies and

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<v Speaker 3>cake and whoopee pies and ice cream and just all

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<v Speaker 3>all the confections from all six New England states.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the Wallely Coppar better be mentioned in this somewhere.

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<v Speaker 3>I've been researching the Wallycope bar, and in fact, I

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<v Speaker 3>think I'm going to be able to talk to someone

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<v Speaker 3>from the FB Washburn company pretty soon.

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<v Speaker 2>Good because that bar, now I'm basing it on my memory,

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<v Speaker 2>that bar was better than the carparable Mounds bar. You

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<v Speaker 2>think of a chocolate and coconut combination bar, wallyco put

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<v Speaker 2>Mounds to shame.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, there are quite a few chocolate and coconut candies

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<v Speaker 3>in New England. It's really interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>You have the Palty Bar from England.

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<v Speaker 3>Mm hmm, and the Needum Candy in Maine, which is

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<v Speaker 3>actually potatoes and coconut covered in chocolate, which is better

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<v Speaker 3>than it sounds it's actually quite good. You don't taste

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<v Speaker 3>you don't taste the potato, okay. And yeah, and Peter Paul,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, was in Connecticut.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, let's talk about Root one. We'll get back to

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<v Speaker 2>Candy in a minute. But there are so many places

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<v Speaker 2>on Root one that aren't there anymore. And Prime in

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<v Speaker 2>my memory, the hilltop, you don't even see the cows anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I know, the cows have been scattered, right, you

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<v Speaker 3>see the cactus sort of, Yeah, the cactus has been changed.

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<v Speaker 3>They took away the neon. They replaced it with led,

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<v Speaker 3>just like they did with the Hancock weather lights. I hears, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I just heard that. And you know, they replaced Frank

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<v Speaker 3>Jeffrida's name with the name of the developer. And it

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't say Steakhous anymore. It has the name of names

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<v Speaker 3>of the tenants and the development there. So it's there,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's it's different, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, it's not the world in which we grew up.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not it's not.

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<v Speaker 3>It's true. It's true.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for books like yours to at least keep

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<v Speaker 2>the memory alive, so to speak.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, that's what I like to do. I think it's

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<v Speaker 3>really important because these things, these things matter to people,

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<v Speaker 3>These things bring back memories for people, and everything is

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<v Speaker 3>getting homogenized, you know. So we also have the orange

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<v Speaker 3>Dinosaur on Root one.

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<v Speaker 2>I was about to bring that up.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And he sort of has a similar situation to

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<v Speaker 3>the Hilltop, right, I mean, he was part of a

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<v Speaker 3>miniature golf course. There were multiple there was a big

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<v Speaker 3>green dinosaur there, there were other animals there, and they

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<v Speaker 3>saved the dinosaur, the orange dinosaur. But he's all by himself,

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<v Speaker 3>you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember before he got the Tonight Show and he

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<v Speaker 2>was on the circuit that was a routine. His jokes

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<v Speaker 2>were based around the orange dinosaur, and some of the

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<v Speaker 2>joke I can't do because it was r rated and

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<v Speaker 2>I'd try not to do that material. But that's a

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<v Speaker 2>part of our psyche. Yeah, Arch Dinosaur turning off to

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<v Speaker 2>ninety nine.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, it's a landmark.

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<v Speaker 2>So what inspired you to write a book about Route one?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I have my own memories of Root one. A

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<v Speaker 3>lot of them are centered around the Hilltop and Old

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<v Speaker 3>Orchard Beach was, which isn't quite on Root one, but

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<v Speaker 3>close enough, and it kind of fit with the vibe

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<v Speaker 3>of my other books with candlepin bowling with New England Neon.

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<v Speaker 3>These are all things that are you know, a little nostalgic.

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<v Speaker 3>They are some of their unique to New England candlepin bowling,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know these Root one landmarks and these old

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<v Speaker 3>Neon signs, and they do they evoke memories and they're disappearing.

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<v Speaker 3>So it just felt like the right thing to do.

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<v Speaker 3>And then I went all the way up to Maine.

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<v Speaker 3>I went all the way up to the Canadian border.

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<v Speaker 3>So I went to Fort Kent, which is where Root

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<v Speaker 3>One begins in Maine, and covered the road from all

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<v Speaker 3>through Maine and New Hampshire and Massachusetts.

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<v Speaker 2>See you soon at the Kowloon, I know.

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<v Speaker 3>And what's going to happen to the Kowloon?

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<v Speaker 2>You know the fact that people just won't leave our landmarks,

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<v Speaker 2>are loving landmarks alone, makes you want to just grab

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<v Speaker 2>a pitch fork and a sign to go out there

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<v Speaker 2>and say stop enough development, leave what is left alone,

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<v Speaker 2>you know.

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<v Speaker 3>And what's interesting is in the book I quote Bernice Abbott,

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<v Speaker 3>who was a great photographer, and she traveled the entire

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<v Speaker 3>length of Route one in nineteen fifty four, so seventy

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<v Speaker 3>is years ago, and all the way down to Florida

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<v Speaker 3>all the way up to Maine, and she took like

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<v Speaker 3>twenty four hundred photographs and she said the same thing

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<v Speaker 3>seventy years ago. She said, these things are disappearing, and

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<v Speaker 3>she wanted to document them before they disappeared. And that

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<v Speaker 3>was seventy years ago. It's still happening today.

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<v Speaker 2>No more. Christmas Tree Shop.

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<v Speaker 3>And Christmas Tree Shop replaced the Ship restaurant.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and my buddy Phil Castanetti has had three different

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<v Speaker 2>locations on each side of Root One for his Sports

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<v Speaker 2>World shop right there. And at least Phil is trying

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<v Speaker 2>to cling to a Root one address. He could have

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<v Speaker 2>just packed up and just slunk away and rebuilt somewhere else.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and that's what happened to some of these other businesses.

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<v Speaker 3>Right Carl's Sausage House that was on Root one and

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<v Speaker 3>now it's off Root one. It's still around, but it's

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<v Speaker 3>not on Root one anymore. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Pole Carries had a Root one location. M Pole Carries

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<v Speaker 2>from North Station, and I don't think they'll location exists anymore,

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<v Speaker 2>or Route one.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I've driven by it. I just don't know

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<v Speaker 3>if it's open, right. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And I used to entertain at Stars on Route one

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<v Speaker 2>once a month. I hear you. What's your Dodgy's name?

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<v Speaker 3>Kodak like the camera?

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<v Speaker 2>Hi, Kodak, Kodak.

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<v Speaker 3>Sit oh yeah, sit dream on. No, let me try

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<v Speaker 3>this Kodak speak there you go, Yeah, Kodak. Protect me

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<v Speaker 3>from my downstairs neighbor who just opened the door. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>tell you what.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me take my break. Invite phone traffic anyone out

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<v Speaker 2>there who wants to call and talk about a missed

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<v Speaker 2>Route one location. Some of the ones we've already mentioned,

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<v Speaker 2>there are many that we haven't mentioned. Six one, seven, two, five, four,

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<v Speaker 2>ten thirty, eight, eight, eight, nine, nine, ten thirty If

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<v Speaker 2>indeed you want to call in and share a memory

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<v Speaker 2>about something on Route one north of Boston all the

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<v Speaker 2>way up.

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<v Speaker 4>To Maine, all the way up to Maine, so your

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<v Speaker 4>phone traffic is requested here on Nightside.

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<v Speaker 2>Susan Bregman is my guest, and she and I shall

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<v Speaker 2>return after a few messages here on Nightside, heard only

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<v Speaker 2>on WBZ Time and temperature ten fifteen and when I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sixty four degrees.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dan Ray live from the window World

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<v Speaker 1>Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Susan Bregman is my guest, and Susan, you have filled

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<v Speaker 2>my phone lines. I haven't had full lines all night.

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<v Speaker 2>I've had phone traffic, but I've not had full lines

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<v Speaker 2>all night long until you, young lady.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, people love root one they do.

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<v Speaker 2>And let's go to Stoneham first and speak to Teresa. Yeah, Teresa.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, Hi, thank you Morgan high Susan, thanks for having me,

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<v Speaker 5>thank you for calling Hi, thank you. Do you remember

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<v Speaker 5>the restaurant Augustine's.

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<v Speaker 6>On Route one?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes?

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<v Speaker 5>I do, yes, yes, I love that restaurant.

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<v Speaker 4>It was so good.

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<v Speaker 5>With the salad bar and they had the dessert bar.

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<v Speaker 2>And Susan, are you old enough to remember Augustine's.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know that I was living here then? When

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<v Speaker 3>when was it open?

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<v Speaker 2>I remember eating in the sixties.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, and that was a little before I moved here.

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<v Speaker 3>But okay, so a little bit of time.

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<v Speaker 5>Nineties yeah, maybe the high eighties, early nineties. I'm sixty,

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<v Speaker 5>so I don't know. I wasn't I remember where Jimmy

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<v Speaker 5>Steerhouse is right now? You know Jimmy Steerhouse.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, one town, Morgan.

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<v Speaker 6>Was that Sagas?

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was saugust Saga?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, okay, okay.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, oh right, Thank you.

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<v Speaker 5>I just wanted to bring that good memory up.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks, thank you for sharing. Thank you one open line

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<v Speaker 2>six five four ten thirty or eight eight, eight nine,

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen thirty. And now let's go to Austin and speak

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<v Speaker 2>with Mark. Mark.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh, good evening, Morgan, longtime no talk. Do you remember

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<v Speaker 7>when I was working in the Mass Department of Revenue

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<v Speaker 7>as audit division librarian and mail carrier during the period

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<v Speaker 7>nineteen ninety nine to two thousand and two, one of

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<v Speaker 7>my bosses was generous enough to take us all out

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<v Speaker 7>to the Cowloon restaurant I think was called on One.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't know whether it's still in existence. Oh it is,

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<v Speaker 7>that's resure.

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<v Speaker 2>It is teetering.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me say it that way there for now. The

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<v Speaker 3>the the current the current owners have shared plans for

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<v Speaker 3>redeveloping the property and maybe they say they'll keep us.

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<v Speaker 3>I think smaller version of the restaurant is what they're saying.

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<v Speaker 3>But I don't know how.

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<v Speaker 2>They have a huge spread and somebody has talked them

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<v Speaker 2>into considering and I use that word carefully, uh, blocking

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<v Speaker 2>off some of their space for a condo.

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<v Speaker 7>I am I not surprised. Uh. There was a nice

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<v Speaker 7>miniature golf course at Anantasket Beach that unfortunately a condover

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<v Speaker 7>bought it all up. It's still is the bowl, but

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<v Speaker 7>it's not an operation anymore. It pays paradise put up

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<v Speaker 7>a parking lot. Joni Mitchell also cover version by counting crows.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm a little hardened to this, having an m b

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<v Speaker 7>A and all that. But I guess the other thing

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<v Speaker 7>Actually has a travel information line which is usually reliable.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, anyway, I'm supposed to eat more at home to

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<v Speaker 3>Plenty of place, yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>And for one, I don't think there is a Calories

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<v Speaker 2>Right, if you've got the guts, excuse me, intestinal fortitude

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<v Speaker 2>to sit on the benches across from Kelly's, trust me.

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<v Speaker 2>The seagulls a scavengers and they know that if you

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, there are plenty of good, relatively inexpensive places

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<v Speaker 7>And you can sit under the warning and there's actually

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<v Speaker 7>a new hotel where you can get a very nice

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<v Speaker 2>thank you for the call.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, thanks, thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>So some breakman is here. I have Marcut's on the

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<v Speaker 8>Diane there said in the beginning, I caught your show

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<v Speaker 8>a little bit late, but I remember when I was young,

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<v Speaker 8>there was a farm stand on Root one sells I

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<v Speaker 8>don't remember if it was Top Seals or or Danvers,

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<v Speaker 8>and they used to sell pumpkins, like around Halloween time,

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<v Speaker 8>and there was like a little shack that you could

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<v Speaker 8>like the honeycomb and the jar and jars of mint

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<v Speaker 8>jelly and apple butter and stuff. And really missed that places.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it might have been before my time on Route one.

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<v Speaker 3>It sounds like a nice thought.

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<v Speaker 1>It was.

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<v Speaker 4>It really was great.

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<v Speaker 8>And then of course Russo's Candy and ice cream that

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<v Speaker 8>was lying Route one and lynn Fell's way, and they

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<v Speaker 8>sold out to Krispy Kreme and moved to further down

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<v Speaker 8>Lyndfell's Parkway and now they're they retired and oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>The Boston area with four or five locations and they

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<v Speaker 2>were all gone.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, you know, they thought that they could compete with

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<v Speaker 8>Dunkin Donuts, and because dunkin Donuts was like right next door,

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<v Speaker 8>had built a place right next.

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<v Speaker 4>Door to Russo's.

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<v Speaker 8>And I was like, well that takes some intestinal fortitude, yes,

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<v Speaker 8>because you're not going to Their coffee was lousy compared

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<v Speaker 8>to Dunkin Donuts, and maybe their donuts were good, but

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<v Speaker 8>they were only good when they were hot.

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<v Speaker 2>So very true.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like, yeah, there there was.

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<v Speaker 8>No way that they were going to survive and dunkin

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<v Speaker 8>Donuts land.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to tell you a real quick story, and

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<v Speaker 2>this goes back twenty five years for me. A friend

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<v Speaker 2>and I fell in love with their cream filled Krispy

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<v Speaker 2>Kreme donuts and I had never had warm donuts before.

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<v Speaker 2>Duncan didn't do that. When I got home, I had

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<v Speaker 2>her FedEx me a dozen Krispy Kreme donuts. And when

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<v Speaker 2>they first opened up around here, I said, oh boy,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm happy, but it just didn't have the same feel

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<v Speaker 2>and taste. And I guess most people agreed with me

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<v Speaker 2>because they weren't able to maintain business.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah, I remember the one in Compley Place, right,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean you could kind of watch the donuts on

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<v Speaker 3>the conveyor belt. Yeah, I have that memory. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 8>One in Medford before before Kelly's. Yeah, okay, but I

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<v Speaker 8>have one question. I don't know if you remember when

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<v Speaker 8>I was little, I could have sworn that hilltop at

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<v Speaker 8>one point had live cows in front, not the plastic ones,

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<v Speaker 8>but live cows for like a promotion or something.

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<v Speaker 2>They may have done it once for a promotion, but

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<v Speaker 2>they always were.

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<v Speaker 4>They were char plastic plastic.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all right, Diana, I gotta take a news hit.

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<v Speaker 8>Thanks, great night, Thank.

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<v Speaker 2>You, and Lyndon Weymouth wait to the news and we

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<v Speaker 2>will get to YouTube. Here on night Side for a time.

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<v Speaker 2>Ten thirty temperature sixty four degrees.

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<v Speaker 1>You're on night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back from the news, everybody. Susan brad Minutes my guest,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm going to take a phone call. Then shift

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<v Speaker 2>gears lightly. Susan to talk about candies, which is a

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<v Speaker 2>new book you're working on.

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<v Speaker 3>So well, sweets but yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Sweets Linda and Weymouth.

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<v Speaker 8>Hello, Hi Linda.

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<v Speaker 6>Hi. Uh, I'm down here on the south Shore. And

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<v Speaker 6>I remember he'll no, no, I wrote it down Uh

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<v Speaker 6>the tell House.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, somebody mentioned toll House earlier.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah it was Whitman. Yes, yeah, yeah, I miss it.

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<v Speaker 6>I go down there, Pilly freak up and on, and

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<v Speaker 6>I miss it. I look for it and I see

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<v Speaker 6>what's there, and I you know, I look for it.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know why. But and also Samplers down.

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<v Speaker 2>There, okay, okay?

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<v Speaker 3>Which what is?

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<v Speaker 5>What is that?

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<v Speaker 6>Staplers a debrig store?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh okay?

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<v Speaker 2>And what community?

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<v Speaker 6>I think it's same, same Whitman area.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, but we're talking, okay. And I know Whitmen well

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<v Speaker 2>because I used to entertain down.

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<v Speaker 6>There restaurant up in New Hampshire and moved to New Hampshire.

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<v Speaker 6>The original I think is that still there?

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<v Speaker 2>Well? The original ninety nine was on Portland Street, just

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<v Speaker 2>off the Government Center.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh okay, that's the.

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<v Speaker 2>Original ninety nine restaurant.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought the original one was in Charlestown. No, that

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't the original.

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<v Speaker 2>No, the one on Portland Street because that's how they

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<v Speaker 2>got its address ninety nine. I think Portland ninety nine

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<v Speaker 2>Portland and I used to entertain at mcgwigan's Pub in Whitman.

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<v Speaker 2>But we're kind of talking about Route one.

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<v Speaker 6>I thought you were talking about items that have disappeared.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Dad, we're talking about items that have disappeared, but

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<v Speaker 2>disappeared from being located on Route one. But all's fair

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<v Speaker 2>and love and discussions, okay.

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<v Speaker 6>And I I heard the advertisement about the trying to

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<v Speaker 6>keep the AM radios in the TV yes in the car,

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<v Speaker 6>and I hope people are doing that.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope so too, because I'm a huge you can

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<v Speaker 2>tell I'm working on AM right now as we speak,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm a huge proponent of being able to get

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<v Speaker 2>into vehicle, any car, turning on the radio and being

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<v Speaker 2>able to go up and down the dial getting AM

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<v Speaker 6>I'm out off the air. Can I leave my number

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<v Speaker 6>and SILD somebody get back to me about whether the

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<v Speaker 6>ninety nine up in New Hampshire is still there?

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<v Speaker 2>Tell you what. Anybody who wants to call in and

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<v Speaker 2>help Linda answer that question, call in if you know

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<v Speaker 2>if the ninety nine restaurant still has a location in

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<v Speaker 2>New Hampshire. We'll do it that way, so you keep listening.

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<v Speaker 6>Linda, I do enjoy your evening.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 3>Let go, thank you, bye bye.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, there goes Linda. And before we take our next call,

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<v Speaker 2>let's talk about sweets. What inspired you to write a

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<v Speaker 2>book about cookies and candies and whatnot?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you know, I was spending a lot of time

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<v Speaker 3>in Maine for the Route one book and Right of Maine, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was thinking, oh, maybe I'll write a book

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<v Speaker 3>about five seemed too specific. New England, Sweet and the

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<v Speaker 3>all right, all.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, hold on, Susan, you're breaking up. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if it's are you on a landline or a cell phone.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm on a landline.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so that shouldn't be happening.

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<v Speaker 3>Well better now, now, a little bit, a little bit,

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<v Speaker 3>I can find a different to suit. Okay, Okay, how

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<v Speaker 3>is this better? This is where I was before?

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let's keep going.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, let's keep doing that. There's gonna be a dog

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<v Speaker 3>dog interlude. Sorry, and there's really New England has this

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<v Speaker 3>really really rich history in sweets and candy, especially Cambridge.

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<v Speaker 3>Cambridge used to be known as Confectioner's Row part of

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<v Speaker 3>Cambridge on main Street by mass Ave where necho.

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<v Speaker 3>And yeah, and the building is still there on mass Ave.

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<v Speaker 3>It belongs to Novartis now And but that whole part

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<v Speaker 3>of main Street had there were dozens of candy companies

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<v Speaker 3>there in the mid twentieth century, and right now there's one.

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<v Speaker 3>There's one, and it's owned by Tutsi Roll and that's

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<v Speaker 3>where they make Junior Mint. And that's where they make

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<v Speaker 3>Charleston Choose.

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<v Speaker 2>Smack it crack at Charleston and Bonmo Turkish staffy both

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<v Speaker 2>used that phrase.

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<v Speaker 3>But Bonamo is not a New England one. No, no,

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<v Speaker 3>but yeah, I remember Bonamo turkishtaffy growing up, but not here,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean not growing up here.

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<v Speaker 2>Where did you grow up?

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<v Speaker 3>By the way, New York, suburban New York?

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<v Speaker 2>And I let you with me.

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<v Speaker 3>I know it's shocking, isn't it. I hide it so well,

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<v Speaker 3>I try so well. I know, I know, it's just

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<v Speaker 3>it's just, you know, you try to fit in and

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<v Speaker 3>what yeah, you know, it just comes out in the end.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh oh oh, it's Bonamo candy. That was the jingle

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<v Speaker 2>they used to use. But I'm old, so.

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<v Speaker 6>While well, how do you think it?

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<v Speaker 3>While Walcollico? They had a jingle too, right, something about

432
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<v Speaker 3>look both ways before you cross the street.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, very good. Now for someone who was younger than me,

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<v Speaker 2>how do you recall that?

435
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<v Speaker 3>I don't recall it. I looked it up.

436
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<v Speaker 2>Oh all right, it's cheating.

437
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<v Speaker 3>Oh come on, I'm a researcher.

438
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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'll allow my job. I'll allow it, and we'll

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<v Speaker 2>tell you what. Let me see if I can get

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<v Speaker 2>a call on before you have to take another break,

441
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<v Speaker 2>because you're still garnering phone calls for me. So, Mike

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<v Speaker 2>and Newton, you've got Susan Brigman, the New Yorker.

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<v Speaker 9>Oh yeah, yeah, I'm a I'm a die Herd New

444
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<v Speaker 9>Yorker from Upstay, New York myself. But just talk about

445
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<v Speaker 9>the ninety nine restaurant. It's it's in Charlestown. It's not

446
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<v Speaker 9>the ninety nine. I think it's a ninety five restaurant.

447
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<v Speaker 9>Remember when four guys got whacked back in eighty five.

448
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<v Speaker 4>Yep, I remember that?

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<v Speaker 9>Yeh remember that? Yeah, So it's the ninety.

450
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<v Speaker 2>Restaurant. Wasn't it King something or other? No? No, no,

451
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<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking that was.

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<v Speaker 3>The motel in Chelsea.

453
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm thinking that you different.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, how did I remember that?

455
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<v Speaker 2>Good Greece?

456
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<v Speaker 9>But you don't remember the ninety nine restaurant in Charleston

457
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<v Speaker 9>right there by them all?

458
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<v Speaker 6>Did?

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<v Speaker 5>Well?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes I do.

461
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 9>So it's so it's a ninety pie now.

463
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<v Speaker 2>So you're being funny. I get it. I know.

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<v Speaker 3>Sweet though, So Fig Newton's you know, since you're from

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<v Speaker 3>Newton are named after Newton.

466
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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to write the letter of complaint to the

467
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<v Speaker 2>people that do Big Bang because they made a reference

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<v Speaker 2>in one of their shows about the Fig Newton coming

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<v Speaker 2>from a town in Massachusetts, and Newton is a city city.

470
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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, next hour, I've got my buddy, Lieutenant Brusa

471
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<v Speaker 2>Poskar coming on and we'll we'll talk about that point

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit further. Mike, is there anything else you

473
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<v Speaker 2>wanted to do other than tell bad jokes?

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<v Speaker 9>No? Well, no, I have something serious that there's your

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<v Speaker 9>your host, no where they are your guests know where

476
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<v Speaker 9>the potato chip was invented.

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<v Speaker 3>Where it was invented.

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<v Speaker 9>Potato chips, I do not. The potato chip was invented

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<v Speaker 9>in Saratoga Springs, New York, on the lake on Saratoga

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<v Speaker 9>Lake at a hotel years ago. If you'll look it up,

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<v Speaker 9>it's true there was a hotel gentleman who was the

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<v Speaker 9>or I know it wasn't a putt. It was down

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<v Speaker 9>it was on the Saratoga Lake. It's probably not even

484
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<v Speaker 9>there anymore. But somebody was eating dinner and he kept

485
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<v Speaker 9>complaining about the potatoes being too wide. So the chef

486
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<v Speaker 9>kept cutting them and cutting them and cutting it, and

487
00:30:07.839 --> 00:30:10.759
<v Speaker 9>they made them very thin and fried them. So this

488
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<v Speaker 9>potato chip was invented in Charatoga Springs, New York.

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<v Speaker 4>A long time ago.

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<v Speaker 3>Mike, another idea.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that would be maybe in her next next book.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Mike, thank you for the callet.

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<v Speaker 9>Thank you. Yeah, I enjoy your show.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, thank you very much.

495
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<v Speaker 6>Thank you.

496
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<v Speaker 2>I like it when we get a specific subject and

497
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<v Speaker 2>people decide, Oh, let me go off subject. We're talking

498
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<v Speaker 2>about Route one north of Boston. Oh, let's talk about Whitman.

499
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<v Speaker 2>We're talking about cookies and candies. Oh, let's talk about

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<v Speaker 2>the potato chip.

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<v Speaker 3>But in fairness, Whitman is relevant to the cookies. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>because the toll House cookie.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, now that we's got that settled, let me take

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<v Speaker 2>my laugh break. I have another call. You have been

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<v Speaker 2>very good for phone traffic excellent. You have been very good.

506
00:31:07.160 --> 00:31:10.000
<v Speaker 2>Oh maybe they love your doggy in the background.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe maybe he'll be he's a breakout star. What can

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<v Speaker 3>I say?

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<v Speaker 2>Let's take the break Rob if you're readny time and

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<v Speaker 2>temperature ten forty five sixty four degrees.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dan Way Live from the window World

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<v Speaker 1>Life Sense Studios on WBZ News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, we have ten forty nine on the old

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<v Speaker 2>clock up there on my wall. If you would like

515
00:31:37.359 --> 00:31:39.960
<v Speaker 2>to be a part of the show, there's still time

516
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<v Speaker 2>for you for this hour and next hour six one, seven, two, five, four,

517
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<v Speaker 2>ten thirty, eight eight, eight, nine, two, nine, ten thirty

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<v Speaker 2>Did I say five thirty? Anyway? Steve and Dorchester, thank

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<v Speaker 2>you for taking the time to call. Welcome aboard.

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<v Speaker 4>Hi Morgan, thank you for taking my call. Just want

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<v Speaker 4>to say sorry. I was watching the Patriots game and

522
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<v Speaker 4>then I thought, oh my god, Morgan's on this week,

523
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<v Speaker 4>but I caught the end. I'm happy you're still talking

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<v Speaker 4>about you know, Route one And did anybody what I've

525
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<v Speaker 4>heard so far? Anybody bring up Valley Steakhouse? Does anybody

526
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<v Speaker 4>remember Valley Steakhouse?

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<v Speaker 3>I remember that was nine.

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<v Speaker 4>No valleys? You had you know.

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<v Speaker 6>There are multiples, you know, there was one.

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<v Speaker 4>There was one in plan Stein, and there was one

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<v Speaker 4>in Route One, you know, after the steakhouse. Yeah, does

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00:32:44.880 --> 00:32:46.160
<v Speaker 4>anybody remember.

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<v Speaker 2>That on the same side of the road as Hilltop?

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<v Speaker 4>Same side, No, same side at Hilltop. So you slid down.

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<v Speaker 4>And because I remember taking who became my wife? You know,

536
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<v Speaker 4>since that's away, I'm sorry to say that, but we were,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, if that was booked, you know through city

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<v Speaker 4>can you know, like an hour win we would go.

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<v Speaker 4>We would go to Valley Steakhouse, which was right down

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<v Speaker 4>next to almost like close to the Hilltop, Okay, And

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<v Speaker 4>then they had a place in Braintree, but I forget

542
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<v Speaker 4>where the place in Braintree was place. Yeah, and then

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<v Speaker 4>they had a place in so August. So that's why

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<v Speaker 4>you when I was listening to you, I thought, oh

545
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<v Speaker 4>my god, is any when you were talking about places?

546
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<v Speaker 4>Do you remember and all that sort of good stuff.

547
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<v Speaker 4>But you know, Valley Steakhouse was on Moote once.

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<v Speaker 2>Back in the early eighties, I worked, I worked everywhere,

549
00:33:46.519 --> 00:33:50.440
<v Speaker 2>but I worked for two years at WHDH and I

550
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<v Speaker 2>would come home after doing a midnight to five shift

551
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<v Speaker 2>and there was a Valley's en route nine. I lived

552
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<v Speaker 2>about literally a couple of miles up from there, and

553
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<v Speaker 2>I could stop in there for breakfast. They had an

554
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<v Speaker 2>early morning breakfast. I think they started at six, So

555
00:34:12.400 --> 00:34:17.079
<v Speaker 2>if I left HGH, did some post radio stuff, then

556
00:34:17.519 --> 00:34:20.880
<v Speaker 2>went downstairs, grabbed the car, and off I came home.

557
00:34:21.719 --> 00:34:25.199
<v Speaker 2>They were opening up just as I came into the area,

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<v Speaker 2>and i'd have a pancake breakfast there at Valley's. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know whether this one did the same thing,

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<v Speaker 4>because you know, I think they were trying to compete,

561
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<v Speaker 4>you know, with the Hilltop, but it was right down

562
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<v Speaker 4>the hill. After you passed the Hilltop, they were kind

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<v Speaker 4>of a little bit on the right hand side. So

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<v Speaker 4>if you know, maybe some college remember on Valley.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that where Cobytown is now?

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<v Speaker 4>You know what, I haven't been up that way, you know.

567
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<v Speaker 4>I mean back then, it was a big deal to go,

568
00:35:00.719 --> 00:35:04.079
<v Speaker 4>you know, to the hilltop. So pretty cousin said, hey,

569
00:35:04.239 --> 00:35:07.119
<v Speaker 4>you know what, and would go upstairs and wait forever.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, it was in the heyday when it was

571
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<v Speaker 4>the big deal. You know, all my food my friends

572
00:35:12.760 --> 00:35:16.079
<v Speaker 4>would pack in a car. Who was driving wasn't you know,

573
00:35:16.400 --> 00:35:20.639
<v Speaker 4>and it was really good. The huge salad you would

574
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<v Speaker 4>get at there.

575
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<v Speaker 2>But I don't know why they went bust at one time.

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<v Speaker 3>Then one of them, there's the busiest restaurant in the United.

577
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<v Speaker 2>States, United States.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my god, it was the best wood Wait forever and.

579
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<v Speaker 2>Ever keep it going.

580
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<v Speaker 4>It was outside.

581
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was after Frank Tafrida sold it and you know,

582
00:35:47.960 --> 00:35:49.599
<v Speaker 3>ownership changes and then.

583
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<v Speaker 4>And then then they had the big butcher shop in

584
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<v Speaker 4>the back.

585
00:35:53.719 --> 00:35:57.480
<v Speaker 2>They just built after a lot of people just went

586
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<v Speaker 2>to the butcher shop, didn't go to the restaurant, went

587
00:36:00.719 --> 00:36:03.480
<v Speaker 2>to the butcher shop and bought their meats and took

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<v Speaker 2>them home.

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00:36:03.960 --> 00:36:07.960
<v Speaker 4>And that's why you couldn't find a place to park,

590
00:36:08.440 --> 00:36:10.320
<v Speaker 4>you know, when you're packing in the town. You couldn't

591
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<v Speaker 4>find anyway to park anywhere.

592
00:36:13.440 --> 00:36:16.239
<v Speaker 3>Nothing, you know, And it.

593
00:36:16.400 --> 00:36:19.559
<v Speaker 4>Was just it was great in the heyday back then.

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<v Speaker 4>And then if you couldn't get into the hilltop your

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<v Speaker 4>foot down to Valley's, yeah, there was, and there was

596
00:36:27.239 --> 00:36:29.800
<v Speaker 4>one in Brancheet, and there was one in Targust. So

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00:36:30.360 --> 00:36:34.519
<v Speaker 4>if anybody he has this, if they remember Valley's and Targets.

598
00:36:35.519 --> 00:36:38.360
<v Speaker 2>Harry Hopkins once saying, those were the days, my friend,

599
00:36:38.440 --> 00:36:39.800
<v Speaker 2>we thought they'd never end.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, my god, who thought the Hilltop would clothes like

601
00:36:43.559 --> 00:36:47.719
<v Speaker 4>everything else? All right, Morgan is always a pleasure listening

602
00:36:47.760 --> 00:36:55.039
<v Speaker 4>to you. Wame Oh the Patriots said seventeen to three.

603
00:36:55.440 --> 00:36:58.360
<v Speaker 4>You know, so it was a good game. And how

604
00:36:58.400 --> 00:37:04.039
<v Speaker 4>did Jacobe look? Well, everybody you know, different quantbacks. You know,

605
00:37:04.199 --> 00:37:06.480
<v Speaker 4>he pass everybody, so everybody was.

606
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<v Speaker 5>In you know.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm letting you take other calls. Have a good evening,

608
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<v Speaker 4>and I love your show.

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00:37:14.280 --> 00:37:19.039
<v Speaker 3>All right, thank you, thanks for calling. Goodnect So when.

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00:37:19.039 --> 00:37:25.400
<v Speaker 2>Is this New England Sweets Books gonna be finished and

611
00:37:25.480 --> 00:37:26.519
<v Speaker 2>then published?

612
00:37:28.360 --> 00:37:30.679
<v Speaker 3>It should be finished by the end of the year.

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00:37:31.679 --> 00:37:35.639
<v Speaker 3>It's supposed to be published next summer, all right. And

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00:37:35.800 --> 00:37:39.480
<v Speaker 3>you can get a Long Route one and all my

615
00:37:39.559 --> 00:37:45.239
<v Speaker 3>other books wherever books are sold, but also you can

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00:37:45.280 --> 00:37:48.119
<v Speaker 3>get them direct from me on my website, which is

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<v Speaker 3>www dot red Nickel dot com n N the coin.

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<v Speaker 3>It's singular singular red Nickel dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Well, it's been a pleasure, and I suppose

620
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<v Speaker 2>when the New England Sweets Book comes out, you're gonna

621
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<v Speaker 2>want to come back, Miss New Yorker.

622
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<v Speaker 3>Could be if you'll have me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I suppose if you do. If your dog behaves.

624
00:38:18.719 --> 00:38:24.559
<v Speaker 3>Oh, my dog We'll have to figure that one out,

625
00:38:24.760 --> 00:38:25.239
<v Speaker 3>all right, And.

626
00:38:25.320 --> 00:38:29.159
<v Speaker 2>One of these days before I get too much older.

627
00:38:30.000 --> 00:38:32.760
<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm gonna be seventy one in September and

628
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<v Speaker 2>there should be nowhere near a camelpin bowling alley lane.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I'll meet you wherever.

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<v Speaker 2>You want to meet, all right, Are you gonna spart

631
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<v Speaker 2>me any pins? Or is this straight out?

632
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<v Speaker 3>Oh? We'll figure it out.

633
00:38:49.599 --> 00:38:50.440
<v Speaker 2>We'll figure it out.

634
00:38:50.480 --> 00:38:51.719
<v Speaker 3>So we'll figure it out.

635
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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for coming on. I look forward to the

636
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<v Speaker 2>next time I have you.

637
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<v Speaker 3>Thank you so much for having me.

638
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<v Speaker 2>Hope we make a few book sales.

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<v Speaker 3>I hope, and I hope I look forward to the next.

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<v Speaker 2>Time as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Do I thank you, Susan.

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<v Speaker 4>You good night.

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<v Speaker 2>Enjoy your Thursday and Friday and Saturday and Sunday.

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<v Speaker 3>In the rain, okay, in the rain?

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let's take car break and next hour, former Lieutenant.

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<v Speaker 2>But I learned in boy Scouts, once somebody has earned

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<v Speaker 2>a title, whatever that title is, mayor lieutenant, what have you,

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<v Speaker 2>they will always have that title even after they have

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<v Speaker 2>pulled away from that job. So former Lieutenant Bruce Apotheka

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<v Speaker 2>will be joining us here on the last hour of

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<v Speaker 2>night side. I am Morgan Rob is here. He's my producer.

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<v Speaker 2>Nancy and Gray are sitting right next to me. Gray's

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<v Speaker 2>on the floor and Nancy sitting next to me. And

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<v Speaker 2>now let me throw it to Rob. Time and temper

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<v Speaker 2>mature ten fifty eight sixty four degrees
