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<v Speaker 1>This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI

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<v Speaker 1>AM six forty the Gary and Shannon Show on demand

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<v Speaker 1>on the iHeartRadio app. We talked about how the King's

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<v Speaker 1>game was postponed last night. Now the Lakers game today

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<v Speaker 1>against the Hornets will be postponed as well. So that

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<v Speaker 1>is the latest there and the call from Jean Smart.

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<v Speaker 1>You mentioned to postpone or delay or cancel the awards show.

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<v Speaker 1>That's getting a lot of traction as well. You just

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how you can do it. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned the Olympics coming and a handful of years how

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<v Speaker 1>you can get ready for that while people are out

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<v Speaker 1>of their homes or tempting to get building permits and

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<v Speaker 1>things like that. That's also a bad look as well.

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<v Speaker 1>They do say. Now good news in Hollywood where the

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<v Speaker 1>city officials say that that fire department has fully contained

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<v Speaker 1>the sunset fire burning in the Hollywood Hills area. This

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<v Speaker 1>is the one that erupted last night just before six pm.

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<v Speaker 2>The news conference from this morning was.

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<v Speaker 3>Frustrating.

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<v Speaker 2>I was going to say it was good, but it

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<v Speaker 2>needs to be better.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, we talked about the poetry that people wanted

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<v Speaker 4>to get into and the book.

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<v Speaker 2>That is the way we speak the boy.

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<v Speaker 5>That is the way we stand here united Los Angeles

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<v Speaker 5>will stand united and stand strong.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>And that doesn't really do much of anything for anybody.

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<v Speaker 4>And I asked, and if this, if you are the

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<v Speaker 4>person that hears that and thinks to yourself, I feel

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<v Speaker 4>better now.

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<v Speaker 2>I know my home is gone.

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<v Speaker 1>Not one person, maybe her staff or maybe the person

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<v Speaker 1>who wrote that. That Beloney c plus writing assignment. That

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<v Speaker 1>was awful for California public schools. That was awful. And

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to sound like you care, don't do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Do the antithesis of that well, and I will don't

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<v Speaker 1>be polished, be raw, be real, Have talked to people,

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<v Speaker 1>have gone through the neighborhoods, not just sat in the

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<v Speaker 1>helicopter and looked overhead. Don't say you've been to the

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<v Speaker 1>fire lines and the palisades when you have not been

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<v Speaker 1>to the front lines and the palisades. You've may have

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<v Speaker 1>seen them, you may have flown over them, you have

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<v Speaker 1>not been on the front lines in the palisades.

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<v Speaker 4>I guarantee it well, and I want someone who is listen.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll point out Catherine Barger simply because she was the

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<v Speaker 4>one sort of in the control of this.

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<v Speaker 3>It's more no nonsense.

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<v Speaker 4>She's more no nonsense. But I want her to be

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<v Speaker 4>the most no nonsense. I want her to say, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>we're going to do this. We're going to do this

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<v Speaker 4>important news conference. And I just want to point out

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<v Speaker 4>some people. Mayor's here, that guy's here, Assembly members here,

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<v Speaker 4>governors here, so and so.

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<v Speaker 2>Now the people who matter. Let's talk with the fire chief, right,

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<v Speaker 2>Let's talk with the sheriff.

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<v Speaker 1>And save the crocodile tears, you know, save the Oh

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<v Speaker 1>this has just been so horrible, and we are stronger and.

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<v Speaker 3>Save all of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell us where people can get resources, where they can

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<v Speaker 1>go for shelter, where they can get food, where they

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<v Speaker 1>can get water, What we're going to do about the water,

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<v Speaker 1>How we're going to bolstero bolster the fire hydrant system,

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<v Speaker 1>How we're going to figure out how to get water

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<v Speaker 1>from northern California to southern California.

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<v Speaker 2>Smelt be damned, smelt be damned.

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<v Speaker 3>I think those are.

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<v Speaker 1>The only times those words have ever been put together.

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<v Speaker 1>Helt be damned. Okay, I'm a fish person. I love fish,

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<v Speaker 1>I love the environment, I love animals. You ever had

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<v Speaker 1>a smelt I've never had a smelt. I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to smelt, but I understand the smelt live in other

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<v Speaker 1>areas too. It's not like we're saving the endangered smelt,

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<v Speaker 1>are we? I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 4>There are a couple of things to recall about what

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<v Speaker 4>is actually going on right now. The Palisades fire is

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<v Speaker 4>still expanding. It is going the other direction. It basically

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<v Speaker 4>burned to the water, so it can't go any further there.

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<v Speaker 4>But there are areas sort of east towards the four

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<v Speaker 4>the hill into the valley. That's where it's expanding today, slower, thankfully,

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<v Speaker 4>in the Eton fire up an Altadena. That fire has

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<v Speaker 4>now crept all the way up to Mount Wilson. And

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<v Speaker 4>it's important because there's some pretty important infrastructure up at

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<v Speaker 4>Mount Wilson. And I don't just say that because of

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<v Speaker 4>our radio stations and the antennas that we have up there.

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<v Speaker 4>TV stations across LA have infrastructure up there, including their

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<v Speaker 4>broadcast towers and things like that. The government has stuff

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<v Speaker 4>up there at the Mount Wilson Observatory is up there.

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<v Speaker 4>Some of the camera shots right now show flames at

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<v Speaker 2>And we've done this before.

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<v Speaker 4>We've talked about stories in that fires in that area before,

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<v Speaker 4>and they've been able to preposition some fire crews up

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<v Speaker 4>there to prevent that from getting out of hand.

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<v Speaker 2>We do not know where they are, I mean I

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<v Speaker 2>know where they are.

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<v Speaker 4>They're obviously busy doing other things, but this could be

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<v Speaker 4>a significant issue that will keep our eyes on when

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<v Speaker 4>we come back. We'll go through a handful some of

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<v Speaker 4>the talkback messages that we've received. You can always leave

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<v Speaker 4>us a talkback message on the iHeart app.

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<v Speaker 2>Just hit that little microphone. It sends us a message.

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<v Speaker 4>You can also use your Amazon Alexa enabled device and

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<v Speaker 4>tell Alexa to send us a message bad news.

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<v Speaker 3>Right now.

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<v Speaker 1>The fire it alted that began an Alta Dina making

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<v Speaker 1>its way up Eating Canyon. It has gotten pretty damn

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<v Speaker 1>close to Mount Wilson.

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<v Speaker 6>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>There is a line of retardant that has been laid

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<v Speaker 1>down in between the flames approaching the towers and those towers,

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<v Speaker 1>those ever important communication towers there at the top of

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<v Speaker 1>Mount Wilson. But those flames are fast approaching. They were

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<v Speaker 1>able to get that retardant down there before the flames

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<v Speaker 1>reached it, so We'll hope that that holds up, because

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<v Speaker 1>here's the other piece of bad news. One minute ago,

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<v Speaker 1>it came across that fixed wing air tankers are returning

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<v Speaker 1>to bases. They are unable to further drop retardant in

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<v Speaker 1>that fire area due to turbulence. Remember, these wildfires create

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<v Speaker 1>weather systems of their own, They create their own turbulence,

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<v Speaker 1>their own pressure systems, rising cross patterns, all of it.

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<v Speaker 1>So those fixed wing air tankers are unable to fly

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<v Speaker 1>in that fire area right now due to the turbulence,

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<v Speaker 1>which means they are unable to drop retardant to secure

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<v Speaker 1>those towers from the sky. One more piece of bad news.

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<v Speaker 1>Unfortunately La County Fire departments as four firefighters have been

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<v Speaker 1>has now destroyed nearly one thousand structures, nine hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>nearly forty thousand homes.

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<v Speaker 7>Wow.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow, you mentioned the evacuation warnings and orders throughout LA County.

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<v Speaker 4>Close to four hundred thousand people. I think it's one

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<v Speaker 4>hundred and eighty thousand under evacuated orders that have had

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<v Speaker 4>to find other places to go, and two hundred thousand

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<v Speaker 4>in the evacuation warning areas which they had suggested. Hey,

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<v Speaker 4>let's not wait, especially a couple of days ago. Don't

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<v Speaker 4>wait for that to turn into an order. You should

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<v Speaker 4>be prepared to get out. You mentioned the fires, the

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<v Speaker 4>eating fire now approaching Mount Wilson. It's not just a couple.

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<v Speaker 4>There's over two dozen TV stations that broadcasts have their

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<v Speaker 4>transmission towers up there on top of Mount Wilson, and

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<v Speaker 4>another couple dozen radio stations that have theirs up there

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<v Speaker 1>Just in the past few minutes before I went to

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<v Speaker 1>the commercial and now those flames look to be about

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<v Speaker 1>a quarter mile away from that tower. Now they're licking

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<v Speaker 1>the base, and that tower has overcome with.

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<v Speaker 3>Asy smoke.

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<v Speaker 4>Listen there could the smoke is not a problem if

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<v Speaker 4>the fire starts getting into the wiring, and the smoke

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<v Speaker 4>is not a.

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<v Speaker 3>Problem, But the smoke indicates the fire is.

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<v Speaker 7>On to it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>And then there are two sections there on the top

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<v Speaker 4>of Mount Wilson. You've got the observatory sort of one section,

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<v Speaker 4>and then most of the transmission portions on the other

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<v Speaker 4>section there. I mean, just all kinds of and it's

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<v Speaker 4>not just TV and radio. You got microwave relay facilities.

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<v Speaker 4>The big huge one up there is I believe it's

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<v Speaker 4>Channel two. That's the tallest of all the towers up

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<v Speaker 4>there cacbs.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't know what to now.

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<v Speaker 1>Through four pm, wins are slowly going to increase again.

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<v Speaker 1>It looks like the strongest wins this evening Inland Empire,

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<v Speaker 1>Orange County as well. The fire danger stays high until

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<v Speaker 1>we get some rain. Folks, it's been eight months since

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<v Speaker 1>we've had rain. Let me look at the forecast. Nope,

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<v Speaker 1>no rain.

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<v Speaker 2>I got have told you that.

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<v Speaker 3>I wasn't really looking at the forecast.

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<v Speaker 1>Student that was just my own forecast in my head,

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<v Speaker 1>which I think is zach.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it is too.

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<v Speaker 7>It's amazing that no one was hurt in that Hollywood

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<v Speaker 7>Hills evacuation, and I think getting out of that garrid

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<v Speaker 7>we're using those stupid electric scooters was appropriate.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I did hear that a lot from last night

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<v Speaker 4>that people trying to get out of the Hollywood Hills

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<v Speaker 4>were frustrated. Listen, they're not designed for evacuations like that,

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<v Speaker 4>and that's part of the reason why when something like

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<v Speaker 4>this happens and we all have to be prepared to

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<v Speaker 4>get out quickly and as silly as simple things. When

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<v Speaker 4>we started getting evacuation warnings at our house, I packed

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<v Speaker 4>the cars and parked them facing out the driveway so

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<v Speaker 4>that in the event we decided we're going to go,

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<v Speaker 4>we're going to go.

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<v Speaker 2>We're not delly dialing.

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<v Speaker 4>Not that that's anybody's fault, but one of the criticisms

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<v Speaker 4>was that there were no law enforcement officers doing traffic

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<v Speaker 4>control of any kind at the bigger intersect.

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<v Speaker 3>Gaved a couple of minutes, you now, which can be

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<v Speaker 3>very key.

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<v Speaker 8>Hey, Gary and Shannon, love you guys. With the power outages,

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<v Speaker 8>why is it nobody knows how to deal with a

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<v Speaker 8>four way stop? If the lights out, it's a four

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<v Speaker 8>ways stop. So many people are just blasting through these

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<v Speaker 8>lights accidents in every intersection. Learn how to four way

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<v Speaker 8>stop people.

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<v Speaker 1>I think people are also preoccupied, you know, And I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's not just complete ignorance. I think people have

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<v Speaker 1>a million things on their mind, especially if they're evacuating,

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<v Speaker 1>and you just got to give people a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>Especially if it's at night.

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<v Speaker 4>I remember doing stories in Seattle all the time where

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<v Speaker 4>the wind would knock out power in different I mean

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<v Speaker 4>it would happen four or five regularly, four or five

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<v Speaker 4>times a month during the winter, and even driving around

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<v Speaker 4>at night. You just especially a familiar or an area

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<v Speaker 1>And when I was trying to get out of my

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<v Speaker 1>hells of the freeway. I was like, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on. There were no lights on, there were

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<v Speaker 1>I got to the first main intersection, same thing, and

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<v Speaker 1>everyone did stop, treated it like a four way stop, but.

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<v Speaker 3>Mine was a California stop. I wanted to get the

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<v Speaker 2>At least you admit it, hy.

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<v Speaker 9>Gari and Shannon, you are so right. I'm so glad

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<v Speaker 9>that you mentioned it. It's not just all about the celebrities.

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<v Speaker 9>There have been a lot of people on the internet, Facebook,

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<v Speaker 9>et cetera that have been saying, oh, it's just celebrity homes.

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<v Speaker 9>They have plenty of money, they can rebuild, And I'm like, no,

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<v Speaker 9>grew not out of hills that only have twelve hundred

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<v Speaker 9>It's not just specific palisades. Thank you so much for

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<v Speaker 4>No, well, that's not us. It's just that that's an

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<v Speaker 4>acknowledgment of that.

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<v Speaker 3>This is.

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<v Speaker 2>This is very widespread.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not the old fashioned fire where Malibu goes up

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<v Speaker 2>So this is this is a major major issue.

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<v Speaker 1>We talked about the King's game postponed last night, Lakers

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<v Speaker 1>game postponed tonight, and now the NFL is talking about

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<v Speaker 1>of Los Angeles as well. That would be moved to Glendale,

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<v Speaker 1>Arizona would be would be but they haven't made that

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<v Speaker 1>were discussions about postponing or moving the Cotton Bowl game

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<v Speaker 1>Dallas as a dome stadium, but it would be a problem.

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<v Speaker 2>For people getting to and from the game.

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<v Speaker 4>So but again at that point, at this point they've

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<v Speaker 1>Mount Wilson has our attention right now. A wall of

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<v Speaker 1>towers there Mount Wilson, above the fire burning and Eaton Canyon,

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<v Speaker 3>The fires at Mount Wilson, they.

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<v Speaker 1>Were able to lay down a line of fire to

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<v Speaker 4>There are not just radio and television towers up there

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<v Speaker 4>on Mount Wilson, which would be a problem. You've obviously

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<v Speaker 4>got Mount Wilson Observatory, the historic observatory up there, and

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<v Speaker 4>it is a they knew it when they built it.

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<v Speaker 4>That is a fire prone area. So there are some

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<v Speaker 4>safeguards there. But I mean, some of the TV cameras

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<v Speaker 4>that we've seen, some of the images from cameras that

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<v Speaker 1>Well, they've called for the mediate evacuation now of Mount

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know anybody who would have been up there

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<v Speaker 4>and there are a couple of different ways to get

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<v Speaker 4>fire for the most part in terms of getting off

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<v Speaker 4>of that mountain. But again, it looks like some of

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<v Speaker 4>those radio and TV towers and other communication infrastructure there

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<v Speaker 4>on Mount Wilson threatened by the fire.

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<v Speaker 5>Northern California up in Mendocino, and I just wanted to

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<v Speaker 5>thank your coverage of the fire. My daughter is attending

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<v Speaker 5>school at CSU Northridge and living in Hollywood, and she

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<v Speaker 5>evacuated last night and I was able to give her

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<v Speaker 5>at your AM radio station. So I just wanted to

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<v Speaker 5>thank you all for the good work. Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, And that's I mean.

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<v Speaker 4>I can't imagine a cop I have full faith that

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<v Speaker 4>my daughter for example, would be able to navigate an

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<v Speaker 4>evacuation warning and a notice, but that would be a

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<v Speaker 2>Moment.

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<v Speaker 1>My mom went to San Gabriel High School. She has

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<v Speaker 1>a zoom meeting every week with her friends that went

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<v Speaker 1>to high school with her. And two of those ladies'

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<v Speaker 1>daughters have lost their home. I don't know them. But

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<v Speaker 1>for the first time in twenty plus years of covering fires,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four years whatever being down here covering fires or

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<v Speaker 1>up in northern California as well, this is the first

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<v Speaker 1>time I've ever known anyone personally.

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<v Speaker 3>To lost a home.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's just me, But five people I know personally,

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<v Speaker 1>not counting those two girls that I've never met. Five

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<v Speaker 1>mean that is crazy. I mean, if it's just me,

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<v Speaker 1>then everybody else, I mean, this is how widespread it is.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and it's you think about the major events. You

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<v Speaker 4>use the term and Neil actually give you credit for

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<v Speaker 4>it this morning. You use the term that this is

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<v Speaker 4>a generational thing, that this is something that you will

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<v Speaker 4>remember for a very long time and may never be

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<v Speaker 4>repeated in your lifetime. Are a couple of things like that,

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<v Speaker 4>not fires, but I know somebody who was I don't

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<v Speaker 4>know in New York on nine to eleven, right, I

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<v Speaker 4>know somebody who deployed after that, or I mean events

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<v Speaker 4>like that that you think of that when it is

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<v Speaker 4>a large enough event, everybody is impacted by it in

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<v Speaker 4>some way, And this is, I think you're right, is

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<v Speaker 4>one of those types of incidents.

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<v Speaker 1>I've also gotten a lot of calls and texts, more

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<v Speaker 1>so than I ever have gotten from people, family members, friends,

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<v Speaker 1>people I haven't heard from in years, concerned because they're

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<v Speaker 1>watching this on the twenty four hour news networks, right,

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<v Speaker 1>the people that live in other parts of the country,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're in it like we are in it, and

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<v Speaker 1>we are hyper focused on all the details and getting

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<v Speaker 1>the information out, and everyone else in the area is

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<v Speaker 1>in it, so you may not be able to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like zoom out and see.

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<v Speaker 3>The scope of just how bad it is.

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<v Speaker 2>On and back east.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, we can talk about the distance as an example,

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<v Speaker 4>between the Palisades fire and the eat And fire. It's

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<v Speaker 4>even thirty miles or whatever it is between the two fires.

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<v Speaker 4>But if you show a map, if you're watching NBC's

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<v Speaker 4>nightly news, for example, and they show a map of

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<v Speaker 4>La and you're not familiar with it. You think it's

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<v Speaker 4>all burning right and that those fires are going to merge.

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<v Speaker 2>They're not.

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<v Speaker 4>But I mean that you we lose kind of the

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<v Speaker 4>scale of some of it. And even you're right because

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<v Speaker 4>we're smack in the middle between these two fires, at

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<v Speaker 4>least at work that it kind of it's hard to

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<v Speaker 4>step back from it and try to give perspective to

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<v Speaker 4>other people.

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<v Speaker 2>Everything. We're fine, Everything's going to be okay, that kind

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<v Speaker 2>of stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>More talkbacks, by the way, leave us a talkback message

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<v Speaker 4>on the iHeart app.

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<v Speaker 2>Just hit the microphone and send us a message.

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<v Speaker 5>Hey, dumbass, how much more do you want us to

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<v Speaker 5>donate if they don't put keep water in the fire?

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<v Speaker 8>Hydrogens?

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<v Speaker 3>Dumb ass, hydrate hydrogens.

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<v Speaker 4>I think he was referring to the suggestion that we

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<v Speaker 4>donate to the La City Fire Foundation, which benefits firefighters

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<v Speaker 4>in their families, or the California Fire Foundation, which benefits

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<v Speaker 4>firefighters in their families, as opposed to donating.

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<v Speaker 3>To the city of La And we would never advocate

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<v Speaker 3>for that.

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<v Speaker 2>But don't worry, I'm the dumbass.

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<v Speaker 1>You are a dumb ass. Thank you, I mean in

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<v Speaker 1>a sweet, nice, fun way. Oh, I didn't mean that

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<v Speaker 1>You're a dumb ass.

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<v Speaker 3>You know that, right?

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<v Speaker 2>All mark cards.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I tell you the stupidest headline I've ever read?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay that I can remember. It's from TMZ, Tom Hanks

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<v Speaker 1>and Steven Spielberg. Houses saved like Private Ryan. Well, what

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<v Speaker 1>else are they going to do? Not be that dumb?

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<v Speaker 1>Talk about a dumb ass?

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<v Speaker 2>Covering the fires continued.

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<v Speaker 4>Of course, the power all estates fires up over seventeen

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<v Speaker 4>thousand acres. But one of the places that we've been

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<v Speaker 4>watching most closely in the last few minutes has been

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<v Speaker 4>the Eton fire as it creeps up the hill towards

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<v Speaker 4>Mount Wilson.

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<v Speaker 1>Just like every other point where these fires have erupted,

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<v Speaker 1>this thing moved furiously, angrily, and very quickly as it

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<v Speaker 1>made its way towards those towers. As we mentioned, they

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<v Speaker 1>did look like they were able to get a ring

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<v Speaker 1>of fire retardant in between the flames and the towers.

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<v Speaker 1>At one point, it looks like those flames have passed

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<v Speaker 1>that line and make matters worse, the fixed wing aircraft

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<v Speaker 1>had to go back to the bases because of turbulence.

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<v Speaker 4>Doug Irwin is our regional engineering lead here for IHEARTLA

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<v Speaker 4>and has been up there on Mount Wilson. Let's talk about,

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<v Speaker 4>first of all, just the importance of what that place is.

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<v Speaker 4>There's dozens of radio, TV and other communications towers up there.

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<v Speaker 6>Right and I'm just watching the monitor right now because

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<v Speaker 6>the camera is showing right outside of one of our buildings.

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<v Speaker 6>As a matter of fact, it's it's very scary. But

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<v Speaker 6>we've also got our own cameras and are own stuff

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<v Speaker 6>up there. They're still going even right now. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>probably about ninety percent of the radio and TV for

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<v Speaker 6>the Greater LA area is coming from from the top

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<v Speaker 6>of Mount Wilson. I mean it's not complete, but the

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<v Speaker 6>vast majority of it comes from there.

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<v Speaker 4>So knowing that, I mean it's probably designated some sort

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<v Speaker 4>of special protection site by fire by the state. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>they have an interest in keeping those us, keeping us

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I would certainly hope. So it doesn't appear to

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<v Speaker 6>be that way at the minute that I know that

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<v Speaker 6>they're doing everything they can possibly up there. Right now,

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<v Speaker 6>I see that looks like maybe some fixed wing aircraft

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<v Speaker 6>are flying around again. But I understand that weather conditions

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<v Speaker 6>are not favorable. It's not safe, so you know, we

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<v Speaker 6>unfortunately have to live with the consequences.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, what's the worst case scenario.

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<v Speaker 6>The worst case scenario is that every one of the

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<v Speaker 6>sites burns down, and because the buildings are pretty old.

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<v Speaker 6>The site is pretty old, so fifty sixty years. Most

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<v Speaker 6>of the buildings are made of wood, a lot of

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<v Speaker 6>them have stucco and so forth. But I think probably

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<v Speaker 6>the biggest danger is the roofs catching on fire and

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<v Speaker 6>so forth. So what would happened is that you probably

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<v Speaker 6>have a very spotty radio and television transmission from Mount

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<v Speaker 6>Wilson for at least a couple of weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>So what other sites are used to transmit and are

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<v Speaker 1>they even a fraction and forgive me for being ignorant,

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<v Speaker 1>are they even a fraction of how powerful I don't

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<v Speaker 1>even know if that's the right term.

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<v Speaker 3>Mount Wilson is.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, they don't get out as well as Mount Wilson.

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<v Speaker 6>And that's the reason they don't use is primary sites.

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<v Speaker 6>Mount Wilson is a great site. It's it's world class,

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<v Speaker 6>it's well known, everybody. Everybody knows it, and that's one

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<v Speaker 6>reason there's so much interest in what's going on. There's

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<v Speaker 6>a couple other sites. There's one mountain called Verdugo that

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<v Speaker 6>a lot of sites are on. There's some there's some

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<v Speaker 6>backups up there. There's Flint Peak, which is in Glendale.

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<v Speaker 6>There's some backups up there. There's our other site in

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<v Speaker 6>Hollywood Hills. I remember up there too, so.

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<v Speaker 1>When we were out in field and we would use

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<v Speaker 1>the RPU units and it would always be pointing your

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<v Speaker 1>truck towards one of the transmitter sites. And Verdugo and

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<v Speaker 1>Hollywood Hills were always hit or miss. Mount Wilson was

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<v Speaker 1>always the surefire way to go.

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<v Speaker 6>Mount Wilson can be seen from a long ways. It's

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<v Speaker 6>fifty six hundred feet at the top and it gets

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<v Speaker 6>out as we would say, a long ways, and that's

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<v Speaker 6>why it's so coveted for transmitters out there.

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<v Speaker 4>They talk about the unobstructed views that Mount Wilson has

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<v Speaker 4>of just I mean most, not all, but most of

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<v Speaker 4>southern California, most of the main.

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<v Speaker 2>Places that we would look at.

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<v Speaker 4>What's access like getting up there on a good day,

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<v Speaker 4>not today, but on a good day on.

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<v Speaker 6>A good day. Now a problem highway too goes up there.

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<v Speaker 6>There's there's It's Angelo's Crust Highway runs up there. It's

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<v Speaker 6>really easy it's it's a very busy place on weekends.

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<v Speaker 6>As a matter of fact, fact, you don't want to

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<v Speaker 6>go up there on Saturday night because there's so many

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<v Speaker 6>cars and the people running around there. But normally not

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<v Speaker 6>a problem. It's easy to get up there. It's a

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<v Speaker 6>nice two lane road. They repave it about every five

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<v Speaker 6>years or so. It's it's taken it's well taken care of.

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<v Speaker 6>Mount Wilson Observatory is a place where a lot of

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<v Speaker 6>people go to visit. Yeah, so it's not just our

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<v Speaker 6>businesses up there, the radio and television transmission, but Mount

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<v Speaker 6>Wilson Observatory is is a like a tourist attraction.

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<v Speaker 4>Now we're talking with Dougar when who is our regional

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<v Speaker 4>engineering lead for iHeart about the fire, the eating fire

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<v Speaker 4>that's approaching Mount Wilson and just the treasure trove of

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<v Speaker 4>the communications towers that exist up there, radio, television, microwave

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<v Speaker 4>relays and a bunch of different things up there. Who

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<v Speaker 4>would be up there on a daylight today, I mean

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<v Speaker 4>would just be guys like you.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, people like neg going up there for regular visits,

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<v Speaker 6>like the Channel four engineer who is up there on

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<v Speaker 6>a daily basis. There are several the TV stations that

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<v Speaker 6>have people post up there.

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<v Speaker 2>You see a lot of that lot those.

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<v Speaker 6>Are those are people in the working for the fire department. Okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>those are like fire trucks and so forth. So there's

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<v Speaker 6>a lot of visitors up there on a regular basis,

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<v Speaker 6>and we go up there once every week or once

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<v Speaker 6>over a couple of weeks are our own self to check.

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<v Speaker 4>All our stuff outside of the cameras that we have

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<v Speaker 4>that our company has up there kind of helping protect

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<v Speaker 4>our equipment. Do you have other ways to judge whether

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<v Speaker 4>or not it's going to impact transmission for us? And

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<v Speaker 4>by us I mean the company, h well.

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<v Speaker 2>Just regularly.

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<v Speaker 6>Well we know from prior experience. So back in September

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<v Speaker 6>twenty twenty amidst COVID, we had a big series of

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<v Speaker 6>fires that burn up them Mount Wilson, and so we

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<v Speaker 6>know what we had to go through in that particular time.

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<v Speaker 6>And the fire basically didn't burn quite as close as

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<v Speaker 6>it appears to have this time, but it did burn

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<v Speaker 6>right up to the road. And major problems are just

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<v Speaker 6>smoke and dust getting into everything, I believe it or not,

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<v Speaker 6>air filters getting jammed up. That's probably what's going to

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<v Speaker 6>be the first thing that knocks us off the air.

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<v Speaker 6>And really, to be honest with you, is is air filters.

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<v Speaker 6>They get full of particular matter.

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<v Speaker 8>Wow. So, but.

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<v Speaker 6>Didn't affect the road that I recall, And it didn't

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<v Speaker 6>you know, it burned up the other side. It burned

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<v Speaker 6>from the from the east and came west that time

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<v Speaker 6>as opposed to south and north. So the results are

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<v Speaker 6>going to be somewhat different. I'm afraid to say, well,

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<v Speaker 6>I know you're keeping an eye on it. So, but

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<v Speaker 6>thanks for coming in and helping ever well, I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 4>Again, Doug Or when one of our engineering leads here

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<v Speaker 4>at KFI and iHeart here in Los Angeles, do you think.

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<v Speaker 3>It pains people when they have to come in and

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<v Speaker 3>dumb things down for.

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<v Speaker 1>Us a little bit, a little bit, a little part

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<v Speaker 1>of them to say he's happy to leave.

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<v Speaker 2>You've been listening to the Gary and Shannon Show.

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<v Speaker 4>You can always hear us live on KFI AM six

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<v Speaker 4>forty nine am to one pm every Monday through Friday,

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<v Speaker 4>and anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app.
