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Speaker 4: Well on the Friday edition Live and Lunch one O
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Speaker 4: us on Fridays. Tromaker on vacation this week before the
Speaker 4: football season starts, soaking up a little time off. Michael
Speaker 4: Baychok is going to check in with us today though
Speaker 4: as a major changes to the Triple Crown in horse
Speaker 4: racing this week we're announced. We get Michael's thoughts on that.
Speaker 5: A real quick note about Michael and you know you're
Speaker 5: working with him off and on and traveling with him
Speaker 5: a lot, you know, and the things that he is
Speaker 5: very horse racing people can get too jargon related to
Speaker 5: terminology and a kind of confusion. He has a very
Speaker 5: good skill of making it everybody can understand what he's
Speaker 5: saying about this type of sport. He is does a
Speaker 5: very good job of that.
Speaker 4: And this is I would say the biggest the biggest
Speaker 4: change to the horse the biggest change to the horse
Speaker 4: racing calendar in over fifty years.
Speaker 5: This is our life, this is our lifetime. I'm we're
Speaker 5: the old guys here, and I mean it's I mean
Speaker 5: I didn't know if it was in place. I was
Speaker 5: shocked to know it was only in place in sixty nine. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I mean been there for one hundred and thirty years
Speaker 5: or so whatever, and like I thought this thing was,
Speaker 5: you know, forty years more in place. But I mean
Speaker 5: we grew up. No, this is a triple crown and
Speaker 5: this was why it's hard. But we do want to
Speaker 5: see the best run.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 4: So major announcement from the NFL after the game last night.
Speaker 4: They they said that not only was the Hall of
Speaker 4: Fame game of success, but that Carson Beck was going
Speaker 4: to go straight from the game right into the Hall.
Speaker 5: I mean right, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, let
Speaker 5: me let me, let me let me explain. Okay, if
Speaker 5: his last name was Manning, uh, he would have been
Speaker 5: asked to stay another day to be fitted for his
Speaker 5: yellow plays.
Speaker 3: Still working on you speak, Yes, yes.
Speaker 5: You know, let's let's bring in the busts, you know, artist,
Speaker 5: the whole thing. But this was as bad as a handicap.
Speaker 5: And I came back on Otter locks with you know,
Speaker 5: so I did some Canalis was zero to six against
Speaker 5: the spread, by the way, in preseason games, he was
Speaker 5: one play away from being oh to seven. And the
Speaker 5: offenses have really scored three, three, ten, ten, twelve and
Speaker 5: thirty one points. I mean it just kind of they
Speaker 5: ran their offense and the Cardinals, I mean, Charlie every
Speaker 5: all my handicap would and I wish Matt and Matt
Speaker 5: would do a better job. They cut me off when
Speaker 5: I told them I said, this is first quarter only.
Speaker 5: Oh they I mean, they rushed me through and if
Speaker 5: then I said this first quarter only, and they're like, oh,
Speaker 5: now you're on.
Speaker 3: Dan producers, and then you can't trust them.
Speaker 5: The under the I love the team total under for
Speaker 5: what this preseason is going, you know, seventeen and a
Speaker 5: half for Carolina, and I mean zero zero at the
Speaker 5: end of the first quarter and they score sixty three. Yeah,
Speaker 5: and they and they ran their offenses. They had six
Speaker 5: straight possession scoring possessions. Jan and Mike Tourrico says this
Speaker 5: might be for best quarter in the history of the NFL.
Speaker 5: I mean the Hall of Fame game. I said, not
Speaker 5: for me.
Speaker 4: No, it wasn't good news for the handicap, but for
Speaker 4: a Hall of Fame game, which usually entertaining, this was
Speaker 4: very entertaining.
Speaker 5: Believe, off the charts entertained.
Speaker 4: Yes, and fully understanding that a lot of these guys
Speaker 4: had played last night are not going to make these teams,
Speaker 4: and understanding that this is the first preseason game, and
Speaker 4: understanding that we have watched Carson Beck for a long time.
Speaker 4: This is not our first glimpse at him. He's not
Speaker 4: an unknown product out of North Dakota State. Okay, he
Speaker 4: made some very nice throws last night. The one out
Speaker 4: of the end zone on the stop and go was
Speaker 4: feathered in there beautifully wide, but it was.
Speaker 3: He but he let him. Okay, no, it was a
Speaker 3: very nice No.
Speaker 5: No, the guy had to slow down a little bit
Speaker 5: on it. He was not full stride on it. Okay,
Speaker 5: he had such a window that as as Chris COM's right,
Speaker 5: he took the cheese. He didn't take the cheese. That
Speaker 5: was exactly he took. He took the cheese and he
Speaker 5: didn't miss him. And I don't have a problem with
Speaker 5: him trying to hit him exactly on the full sprint
Speaker 5: and giving him a little room for error. To put it.
Speaker 5: It was a really nice throw. But let's you know.
Speaker 3: The second Okay, I like that.
Speaker 4: The second throw that he made that I liked was
Speaker 4: the one that got him down to one yard line
Speaker 4: in the first touchdown.
Speaker 3: He threw it low and end side to no.
Speaker 5: No, if you we don't have to go playboy, listen,
Speaker 5: I was just gonna give he was really really good.
Speaker 4: Then the long throw down the right sideline, and then
Speaker 4: the best throw probably made the whole night was the
Speaker 4: fade for the touchdown. I thought he made some nice throws.
Speaker 4: I understand the competition. I understand all that he had
Speaker 4: some nice throws last night.
Speaker 5: It's as far as the expectation level, or even if
Speaker 5: he's the first first overall pick, he couldn't have looked
Speaker 5: much better or any better. There's no doubt it is preseason.
Speaker 5: And the reason the preseason is we've seen some preseason.
Speaker 5: We've seen some really good quarterback play in preseason that
Speaker 5: did not translate into the postseason. I think our morning
Speaker 5: host could tell you the best. I mean, he was,
Speaker 5: he was in the middle of where. No, the preseason,
Speaker 5: I'll bring up a couple of preseason did translate to
Speaker 5: the next There's some guys that won jobs immediately through preseason.
Speaker 5: When Matt Flinn got the three year, ten million dollar
Speaker 5: deal to go to Seattle, they weren't looking to replace him.
Speaker 5: They wouldn't have spent that money. No, Okay, Well, Russell
Speaker 5: Wilson got a start or two in the fourth game
Speaker 5: preseason that year. I was in Las Vegas for the
Speaker 5: first one against the Chiefs. And he won a job
Speaker 5: in preseason. And what we know about Russell Wilson the
Speaker 5: tail end of his career, he had a very successful career. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I mean yeah, I mean, you know, he threw for
Speaker 5: a lot of yards, won a lot of games, and
Speaker 5: and just he just so he won it in preseason.
Speaker 5: Dak Prescott hit an unbelievable preson But Charli, there's a
Speaker 5: lot of I mean, Jack Prescott's preseason numbers. His first reason,
Speaker 5: unbelievable and will it translate? And you know what, damn it.
Speaker 5: It was his rookie year when they were one or
Speaker 5: two seed and lost at home to Aaron Rodgers in
Speaker 5: Green Bay in the divisional round. I mean they were
Speaker 5: their offense was he was really good, you know, and
Speaker 5: he's he's thrown for a lot of a lot of
Speaker 5: yards and won a lot of games. Didn't playing the
Speaker 5: Super Bowl. I get it. It is there's a ceiling
Speaker 5: two deck. Okay, but what they what we thought preseason?
Speaker 5: With his career, he's exceeded expectations, but there's been a
Speaker 5: lot of guys who put up numbers in preseason. It
Speaker 5: don't amount the craft, that's true.
Speaker 4: I'll give you two more since you brought it up,
Speaker 4: and one of another one involves Matt Flynn when he
Speaker 4: went in as a seventh round pick to Green Bay
Speaker 4: and and and beat out one of the brom brothers.
Speaker 4: Was it Brian or whatever? Who was the second round
Speaker 4: pick that year? It would have been Jeff. It wasn't Jeff.
Speaker 4: It might have been Jeff. It was one of the
Speaker 4: Broms was a second round pick, and Flynn was a
Speaker 4: seventh round pick, and he beat him out and more
Speaker 4: even more than that. And I know you'll remember this
Speaker 4: one the year Washington took Heath Schuler with I want
Speaker 4: to say, the number three pick in the draft. They
Speaker 4: took a flyer on Gus Faratt in the seventh round
Speaker 4: and out of.
Speaker 5: For I went to Tulsa. Yes, yes, and Fred beat
Speaker 5: him out.
Speaker 4: Yes, and Fred being so it's rare, but it happens
Speaker 4: that you can really move yourself.
Speaker 5: It does, it does give I mean, I've got to
Speaker 5: alter my position on this guy. I don't start. I mean,
Speaker 5: we've seen enough of Jacoby Brissett, I mean Pexcott after
Speaker 5: one night. He's got a chance to to to win
Speaker 5: a job, you know, whether it's game one, three, five, seven,
Speaker 5: whatever it is. They're not expected to have a great team,
Speaker 5: So why not. I mean, that's the thing. Why not you, Jakoby?
Speaker 5: But I have to go. I have to pivot, and
Speaker 5: I mean, yesterday, I've seen enough for Carson Beck and
Speaker 5: I understand. So what what did I miss? We're I miss?
Speaker 5: Well one the thing that well, we've seen some mediocre
Speaker 5: quarterbacks in college use their reps into ya and that
Speaker 5: have exceeded our expectations at the end in in the NFL,
Speaker 5: but there was a lot of reps there party.
Speaker 4: I mean, uh, can I use Brissette again? Because he
Speaker 4: played way earlier than they wanted him to at Florida
Speaker 4: because the injuries. Then he transferred to n C State
Speaker 4: and was the starter there. That guy's been in the
Speaker 4: league for a dozen years, and the first time I
Speaker 4: saw him in Tiger Stadium, I felt sorry for him
Speaker 4: that he was forced to be on the field against
Speaker 4: that defense. And now he's never become a star. But
Speaker 4: my goodness, he's been in the league a long ass time,
Speaker 4: I know, but he's not He's not a starter by choice.
Speaker 5: He's never been. He's never been. You know, Luck Luck
Speaker 5: the last minute, you know, it's it's week zero and
Speaker 5: Luck retires. I mean, yeah, we got ten days left,
Speaker 5: you know, And they did okay for a while, and
Speaker 5: then they realized his limitations and defense is cheat and
Speaker 5: then you know, he's a he's an A plus reserve,
Speaker 5: you know, backup. But I Meanty is a great example.
Speaker 5: But but what b Nix is the other one? I
Speaker 5: mean the guys that have I mean, these guys with
Speaker 5: fifty starts. There's another one. I'm that's escaping me right
Speaker 5: now with a ton of starts that you know probably
Speaker 5: And that's why taylors ty Simpson decision just makes no
Speaker 5: sense to me. Man. I think he's pretty good, but
Speaker 5: you got one year starting experience. The history tells us
Speaker 5: in enough to tell us that you're going to struggle.
Speaker 5: You have a big advantage if you play more in college,
Speaker 5: if you get reps. There's nothing in practice that replicates
Speaker 5: a game. You have a non contact jersey and it's
Speaker 5: only a baby step toward preseason. You can get hit,
Speaker 5: but they're not running sophisticated defenses. They're trying to confuse you.
Speaker 5: That's trying to evaluate talent. And where I bring up
Speaker 5: to my next thing? And what was the deal with
Speaker 5: it's your boy the Dylan, the former Green Bay running
Speaker 5: back from BC. That's with Carolina and Carolina Now I
Speaker 5: mean the boss a red they're playing prevat Basically, I
Speaker 5: mean there's a dump off and a red zone and
Speaker 5: nobody's around, Like wait what it was so weird? There
Speaker 5: was none of these just run the ball up the middle,
Speaker 5: let's get in and get out of here. This was
Speaker 5: sixty three points. This is like the highest Hall of
Speaker 5: Fame game scoring since the sixties. It was. It was
Speaker 5: so this was the equivalent Charlie My handicap of thirteen
Speaker 5: months ago the women's Wimbledon final when Anissimova beat the
Speaker 5: number one player in the in the world and sabal
Speaker 5: Anca and beat her in the semifinal and beat her
Speaker 5: and beat her. She dictated the points, she outpowered her,
Speaker 5: and then she gets double bageled in the final. And
Speaker 5: I have picked her that day. Yeah, the guy I gave.
Speaker 5: I gave Paul the Mayo the pick right here on
Speaker 5: this show. It cost him a little money there as well.
Speaker 5: But this was so bad, but they cut me off.
Speaker 5: I told the first quarter only yesterday.
Speaker 4: Were you trying to think of Daniel Jones, three year
Speaker 4: starter at Duke moved himself into the first round.
Speaker 5: I wasn't. But that's a good you know, Yes, And
Speaker 5: this is an era where we've seen a little bit
Speaker 5: of this For obvious reasons. I mean, they're playing until
Speaker 5: the twenty four years old, But I mean, yes, I
Speaker 5: mean that the reps. I just don't think that whether
Speaker 5: Ty Simpson's playing at Alabama or Miami, he is developing
Speaker 5: more behind the bench. Preseason practices with non contact jerseys.
Speaker 5: You know, I just I just don't see it. I
Speaker 5: don't I don't see it in a you know, now
Speaker 5: draft ability, you can't argue with his but he was
Speaker 5: more likely he will never be able to prove it.
Speaker 5: But you don't think arch Manning. That's a little bit
Speaker 5: of it. I mean, yeah, Cooper knows. Cooper, his daddy
Speaker 5: knows that. You know that it's going to help him develop.
Speaker 4: You know, both of his uncles could have went pro
Speaker 4: early and been the number one pick or close to it,
Speaker 4: and neither one of them did.
Speaker 3: They both stuck.
Speaker 5: But they could have gone with multi years starting. This
Speaker 5: guy started one year. Yeah, yeah, right, they had that.
Speaker 5: And if Max were here, he's goofing off again today.
Speaker 5: But if he were here, he would want us to
Speaker 5: mention Haines King and his thirty some odd stories. The
Speaker 5: bad Influence b I. That's his new nickname, Max, Yeah,
Speaker 5: b I, Bad influence, bad influence. Yes, he's influenced. He's
Speaker 5: a terrible influence on on these veteran guys.
Speaker 4: And Haines King to me, looked like one of those
Speaker 4: guys in the preseason has taken advantage of who's on
Speaker 4: the field and that's not really real, and it was
Speaker 4: exciting at the end. I don't expect him to be
Speaker 4: a what what what is?
Speaker 5: Haines King's performance is different for Beck's.
Speaker 4: Because Beck looks to throw, going back to one of yours.
Speaker 4: Beck looks to throw first, and King looks to run.
Speaker 5: You didn't think King through the ball and rushing attempts
Speaker 5: to have Oh last night just three, But I'm talking
Speaker 5: about in gave him a chance to throw the ball.
Speaker 5: He knows he is something in his whatever, he knows
Speaker 5: that he for to succeed. He can't run the Georgia
Speaker 5: Tech offense, Charlie. He's not calling to play as a
Speaker 5: Georgia Tech.
Speaker 3: No, he's not.
Speaker 5: They're designed running plays. I mean what he want.
Speaker 4: I don't expect Haines King to challenge for any significant
Speaker 4: play in time, and I think Carson Beck will now
Speaker 4: that Carolina has got Caroline's got a starting quarterback in
Speaker 4: Arizona dozen, I get it. But if they if they
Speaker 4: flipped positions, I wouldn't think of Haines King as a prospect.
Speaker 5: What's the passing number? Passing numbers for these two guys
Speaker 5: last night, they're pretty damn close.
Speaker 3: They threw for the same amount of yards one hundred
Speaker 3: and eighty.
Speaker 4: So how many attempts about the same. No, King had
Speaker 4: significantly more attempts. He was twenty one to thirty four.
Speaker 4: Beck was fifteen of nineteen.
Speaker 5: Oh my badness.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I think of Beck as a superior prospect
Speaker 4: among the two, even if they switched teams. I would
Speaker 4: think of Beck as a superior prospect. Think he got
Speaker 4: drafted a little higher as he did?
Speaker 5: Did I mean, but I I think for what Haines
Speaker 5: King did, what Georgia Tech's play calling asked him to do. No,
Speaker 5: that's fair, Okay, Haines King has to take a step up.
Speaker 5: Let's let's they took a Beck is a completely pocket
Speaker 5: passer at the college level, King is there. I mean
Speaker 5: there's one hundred and thirty starters, Charlie. These guys are
Speaker 5: as close to one as pocket, pure pocket and in
Speaker 5: runner first. I mean, there is the close. Haines King
Speaker 5: ispposed to one thirty, and he's goosed to one as
Speaker 5: as they get a different style. But I thought he
Speaker 5: that was the bigger, a bigger story than he looked
Speaker 5: very comfortable throwing the ball in a pro system in
Speaker 5: from the pocket when he was let go. Yes, he
Speaker 5: scored the winning touchdown, which you're going to see a
Speaker 5: lot on his legs. He also ran a four to
Speaker 5: six in Indianapolis. Yeah, on the slow turf, not on
Speaker 5: his home home. He's he's always been a terrific athlete.
Speaker 5: But I think he's showed you that in a very
Speaker 5: short period of time he has embraced the new role.
Speaker 5: It would the new just a job description at the
Speaker 5: different level of play. I think he was. I think
Speaker 5: it was good, but yes, I was. I was very surprised.
Speaker 3: I'm sitting here, are you not entertained? I was entertained.
Speaker 3: It was. I stuck around a lot longer than I thought.
Speaker 5: It is usually garbage, and this thing was way more
Speaker 5: entertaining than I ever can remember a Hall of Fame
Speaker 5: game being. And also enjoyed the Breeze stuff a lot.
Speaker 5: We've heard a lot of the stories, but it was
Speaker 5: still good. And there was some him and Peyton's relationship.
Speaker 5: His insight there was just so good. It's good to
Speaker 5: see Breeze excited, happy, But he deserves it.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 5: That guy what we want out of our athletes's commitment
Speaker 5: and effort and preparation, and he's a poster child for
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Speaker 5: in PB before you had to get out of town. Chris,
Speaker 5: how you doing, man.
Speaker 6: I'm doing good, Jimmy. It's it's a hazy, hot and
Speaker 6: human in San Diego, a little bit warmer, you know,
Speaker 6: so uh.
Speaker 5: You know, hey, I love it.
Speaker 6: I like it hot. I just spent a long time
Speaker 6: on the East Coast. I went to UH. I went tomorrow.
Speaker 6: Miss the Haskell made another trip up to Saratoga. I've
Speaker 6: seen enough rain for for the rest of the year.
Speaker 6: For me, I'm happy to be back in southern California
Speaker 6: where we don't see much rain at all, So I
Speaker 6: don't care. I like it.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Look, if the if the if the weather was flopped,
Speaker 5: you might be back in Boston. I mean, listen, if
Speaker 5: the weather wasn't what it is, I would would log
Speaker 5: less minutes in del Mar in the San Diego area
Speaker 5: every summer.
Speaker 7: Chris.
Speaker 5: I want to bring something up, and I think you've
Speaker 5: mentioned it before on Twitter, but we're in college football
Speaker 5: and maybe you've caught onto this story about LSU trying
Speaker 5: to be every Listen, everybody's trying to be creative to
Speaker 5: generate money besides just leaning on the same boosters for
Speaker 5: their player budget and big tom college you know, big
Speaker 5: college athletic football and basketball programs. And some people want
Speaker 5: to label it a private equity. It's not a traditional
Speaker 5: private equity, but it's sort of a it's a tell
Speaker 5: us about the Boston Celtics ownership arrangement where there's some
Speaker 5: private equity, but they're supposed to not have a whole
Speaker 5: lot of say so in the operations apartment of it.
Speaker 5: I believe that's right to fill us in on that.
Speaker 6: Yeah. So basically, they had a figurehead, the Chisholm character,
Speaker 6: big longtime Celtics fan. He was part of a you know,
Speaker 6: private equity group, but he is the faith of the franchise. Now,
Speaker 6: does he have six billion dollars per se? No, But
Speaker 6: what they did was they raised money through the private
Speaker 6: equity company that he worked for. This was basically illegal.
Speaker 6: It wasn't supposed to be able to happen. But the
Speaker 6: way they circumvented it because he worked for the private
Speaker 6: equity company, or he was a CEO or CFO, he
Speaker 6: was a higher up. They said that he would be
Speaker 6: the face of it with some of his money, but
Speaker 6: he didn't have enough money, and you were able to
Speaker 6: you were able to sell like a percentage, like a
Speaker 6: lower percentage, say like twenty five percent to private equity
Speaker 6: for your franchise. They agreed to that. He basically had
Speaker 6: like ten percent, but then they gifted him the shares back.
Speaker 6: So there's like a it's like a complicated stock deal
Speaker 6: where a company will come out and they'll have this
Speaker 6: preferred stock and they basically get paid before anyone else
Speaker 6: who actually buys the regular stock down the road. So
Speaker 6: there was a lot of questionable calls here. And then
Speaker 6: the private equity, like you said, it's not supposed to
Speaker 6: be involved, but it seems like they share are involved,
Speaker 6: as the moves they've made seem to be cost cuttings
Speaker 6: seem to be they don't want to sign the big deal.
Speaker 6: You know, they traded away some guys two years ago
Speaker 6: to get under the apron, which I understand because being
Speaker 6: above the apron the second apron is just you know,
Speaker 6: that's just a catastrophic thing. You can't be paying you know,
Speaker 6: twice as much for the same players, so you're gonna
Speaker 6: get under that. So they got under that Apron. They
Speaker 6: didn't want to sign Brown to the extra extension. They're
Speaker 6: going with Tatum. I'm not sure where that's gonna end up,
Speaker 6: but I know they have big problems because they don't
Speaker 6: own the arena. They don't get any of the concessions,
Speaker 6: they don't get any of the parking. So there's rumors
Speaker 6: that're trying to build a new waterfront arena on South
Speaker 6: Station right behind the train depot there coming up on
Speaker 6: Atlantic cap. Whether that happens or not, they kind of
Speaker 6: need to do it. And when I said that at first,
Speaker 6: when they when they paid this money for the team,
Speaker 6: I thought it made no sense to spend all that
Speaker 6: money without owning the arena and all those contracts coming up. So,
Speaker 6: you know, maybe it's more of a private equity deal.
Speaker 6: It's definitely not that guy owning the.
Speaker 5: Celtics by himself, Charlie. So this is whatever everywhere, the
Speaker 5: private equity is kind of a four letter word, you
Speaker 5: know for a lot of the boosters and things like this.
Speaker 5: You know, I think you're what you're trying to say,
Speaker 5: and maybe LSU's trying to sell is or no, this
Speaker 5: is not. And so but maybe the big difference is
Speaker 5: the control aspect, and how can you keep sort of
Speaker 5: your funding not in a control an impact on the operations.
Speaker 4: Yeah, if I got to put this on a five
Speaker 4: by card, the way I would explain it is LSU
Speaker 4: is not selling equity in LSU. They are selling equity
Speaker 4: in their broadcast media RTEs. Okay, And so this LLC
Speaker 4: that's being opened up is allowing people to in. This
Speaker 4: is the way I understand. I wasn't the meeting. You
Speaker 4: are allowed to invest in this LLC that is dependent
Speaker 4: on its gains on the new media deal that will
Speaker 4: be signed after the twenty thirty season. So you're talking
Speaker 4: before the twenty thirty season, so you you have a chime.
Speaker 4: That's why they'm saying, we're not asking for your money,
Speaker 4: We're resting for an investment. You will get a return
Speaker 4: on investment. LSU will have write a first refusal to
Speaker 4: buy back this investment. If you choose to sell it
Speaker 4: after five years, it will come with no This investment
Speaker 4: will come with absolutely no say so in any administrative
Speaker 4: decisions at LSU or any expenditures. You will be investing
Speaker 4: in this LLC that is spearheaded by LSU's media rights
Speaker 4: and has the opportunity to invest in other outside companies.
Speaker 8: Chris, That's all fine and dandy until one guy puts up,
Speaker 8: you know, two million dollars and then he's gonna want
Speaker 8: saying who the quarterback is and who who the left
Speaker 8: tackle is?
Speaker 6: And you know, I mean if they're paying, if they're
Speaker 6: paying the freight they want to have, you know, like
Speaker 6: like Bill Passels used to say, is you know, if
Speaker 6: you want if you want me to cook the dead,
Speaker 6: are you might as well let me shop for the grocery.
Speaker 4: So this deal is supposed to all of that. So, yes,
Speaker 4: there's a lot of questions to be answered. There's no
Speaker 4: questions there are already.
Speaker 5: People give any more than that that that have not
Speaker 5: in the past. To be frank that they don't.
Speaker 3: They don't.
Speaker 4: They're not certain about the tax ramlifications at that point,
Speaker 4: which to me is one of the biggest questions that
Speaker 4: remains to be answered.
Speaker 5: They aren't they Hey, contact they are. I'll bring up something.
Speaker 6: That no one's probably no one's probably thinking about it all.
Speaker 6: But if you've noticed the last three months since the
Speaker 6: NBA Finals have ended, ESPN is basically out of business.
Speaker 6: They have no programming. They are running uh little League softball,
Speaker 6: crazy like bad costs. Just they don't have any programming.
Speaker 6: And I'm not sure how sustainable it is for a
Speaker 6: major network to go three three and a half months
Speaker 6: with no programming. I'm not sure after this next contract
Speaker 6: for the football, like the game is even going to
Speaker 6: be on ESPN, is ESPN going to exist? And when
Speaker 6: and when you're talking about people buying into an LLC
Speaker 6: for media rights, you know, I just questioned where where
Speaker 6: the where the ESPN model is. You know, they're already
Speaker 6: sold off so many of their games to TNT and
Speaker 6: Turner and CBS that that you know conglomerate as well.
Speaker 6: I just I just see major problems for the ESPN.
Speaker 6: You have the fights all the time with direct TV
Speaker 6: doesn't want to pay, or YouTube doesn't want to pay,
Speaker 6: or this one doesn't want to pay to put ESPN
Speaker 6: on because they're charging so much. And if it wasn't
Speaker 6: for an NFL and college foot I mean obviously college football,
Speaker 6: college basketball, NFL, but they don't have anything else on.
Speaker 6: I mean, no one watches the programming during the day anymore.
Speaker 6: And this last three and a half months, you walk
Speaker 6: into a sports bar, everyone just defaults to ESPN. Well, hello,
Speaker 6: there's no nothing on ESPN the last three and a
Speaker 6: half months. So I just find it interesting that you're
Speaker 6: bringing up a marketing deal for for for television or
Speaker 6: radio rights and just in the big picture, I don't
Speaker 6: know where ESPN said in the future.
Speaker 4: You say that while we're watching Kickball on Espno, I'm
Speaker 4: not joking. But to answer your question, Chris, it may
Speaker 4: not be in Certainly, ESPN in twenty thirty is not
Speaker 4: going to look like they do now. But now you're
Speaker 4: talking about Amazon, now you're talking about Apple. Those those
Speaker 4: entities are going to come into play for sports broadcasting
Speaker 4: more and more, not less and less. So, yeah, you
Speaker 4: make a point about ESPN, You're you're right, but that
Speaker 4: media rights deal in twenty thirty is going to be
Speaker 4: a hefty deal.
Speaker 5: All right, mister skeptical. How about your Boston Red Sox.
Speaker 5: I'm fifteen in a row now, what is it? Eight
Speaker 5: in a row?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 5: Nine in a row? I would do thirty one and five,
Speaker 5: thirty one six? What is it now? What are we
Speaker 5: up to?
Speaker 6: Yeah, thirty one, thirty one and five. You know, one
Speaker 6: of the third best records in the twenty first century
Speaker 6: over a thirty six game period or most wins in
Speaker 6: a thirty sixteen period. It's incredible, and you know, sometimes
Speaker 6: your timing is right, and I'm glad. I'm glad we
Speaker 6: discussed it the day before you came out on the
Speaker 6: trip as we locked in thirty to one on the
Speaker 6: Red Sox win the American League. I have a multitude
Speaker 6: of future poloys with the Red Sox American League, with
Speaker 6: some college football in the NFL, and I actually have
Speaker 6: one with a division it's at twenty five to one.
Speaker 6: I mean, it's still a launcher. It's amazing the run
Speaker 6: that the Red Sox have been on over the past
Speaker 6: a month and a half. And they're still in third place,
Speaker 6: so there's still a long way to go. Tampus played,
Speaker 6: Tampas played well. The Yankees. The Yankees ship seems to
Speaker 6: be sinking. They can't score many runs and pitchings kept
Speaker 6: a minute. I'm all in again. You know, they sucked
Speaker 6: me in. The team's fun, likable team, great bullpen, although
Speaker 6: last night the bullpen was shaky. But and they're saying
Speaker 6: there some rumorus Kochet could come back to pitch and relief,
Speaker 6: which I was mentioning the other day. So I'm hoping
Speaker 6: that right.
Speaker 5: So what do we attribute this to most got it?
Speaker 5: This is a two part question here. First of all,
Speaker 5: on Saturday, June twenty seventh, I mean, Garret Cole is
Speaker 5: on fire since he comes back in Yoshida bottom of
Speaker 5: the first solo home run, Siegler second in in home run,
Speaker 5: Contrera's doubles, Gorn you know, a two run double. I
Speaker 5: mean they chase, uh, they chase Garritt Cole early, and
Speaker 5: it was maybe sparked by those baby blue and light
Speaker 5: yellow unis that day. Huh, the alter unis. Do you
Speaker 5: give any any credit? You noticed?
Speaker 6: Have you noticed they they haven't won tho as much
Speaker 6: as much of late. I hope they go away forever.
Speaker 6: I'm sure they'll I'll sure they'll break them out again.
Speaker 6: I will say this, Cole always has trouble at side
Speaker 6: way pok. So that was the initial spot they needed.
Speaker 6: Then they just went on that tremendous pitching performance. And
Speaker 6: that's three nights limiting the Yankees to three hits or
Speaker 6: less through through nine innings, and all those games they
Speaker 6: had the crazy win on an extras on Sunday Night Baseball,
Speaker 6: they swept all the first place team sixteenth Street Games.
Speaker 6: It's some crazy record. I attributed to two things. You know,
Speaker 6: maybe Cora had a you know, his voice was tired
Speaker 6: in the clubhouse. I think he babied certain guys, wasn't
Speaker 6: you know, wasn't you know it wasn't exactly the hero
Speaker 6: that he was when he you know, won the World
Speaker 6: Series in twenty eighteen. So the changing of Cora was
Speaker 6: obviously one. But the getting rid of or moving on
Speaker 6: and putting the you know, the top prospects on notice,
Speaker 6: sending Room and Anthony down to Fort Myers in the
Speaker 6: middle of the summer where it's a one hundred degrees and
Speaker 6: one hundred percent of humidity, you know, to work on
Speaker 6: his thumb or whatever, getting him out of the clubhouse,
Speaker 6: getting him out of Boston. And then you know, I
Speaker 6: mean they ship Meyer off in the trade deadline. But
Speaker 6: those two guys, you know, they were the anointed ones,
Speaker 6: the top prospects, spending a lot of time pottying in Boston,
Speaker 6: not concerned about rehabbing from their injuries. And I think
Speaker 6: it's just a combination of those two things, you know,
Speaker 6: moving off from Cora, sending the two feenom prospects, you know,
Speaker 6: separating them and getting him out of the clubhouse and
Speaker 6: moving them, moving on from them, and just getting everyone
Speaker 6: to play together.
Speaker 5: You're talking about a lot of administrative moves ownership. Yeah, Charlie.
Speaker 5: Good thing the Red Sox didn't sell the John hit.
Speaker 5: He's popular again, grit.
Speaker 6: He's still not see him. Did you see him in
Speaker 6: the Owner's book last night? He looked like death formed
Speaker 6: over My God, Get the guy from the sun.
Speaker 5: He's not insandy.
Speaker 6: He owned He owned the Florida Marlins for years. The
Speaker 6: guy has a super yacht. Get out there in the sun, buddy.
Speaker 5: But you were telling him sell the team.
Speaker 6: Tell you the funniest thing going, Hey, the funniest thing
Speaker 6: going is that David Dave Portnoy has four hundred thousand
Speaker 6: towels with John Henry with the clown noise nose on.
Speaker 6: That says, sell the team. And he hasn't been able
Speaker 6: to distribute him because since he made him, they've won
Speaker 6: thirty one out of thirty six.
Speaker 5: Beautiful, there you go, and he picks before we go
Speaker 5: we're up against the break.
Speaker 6: Yeah, there's one one one. I like tonight. I like
Speaker 6: over first five Red Sox two and a half runs
Speaker 6: minus one twenty to get going up against Perkins, who
Speaker 6: pitched well against them last time, but Perkins has been
Speaker 6: a nightmare. Gives up a bunch of home runs. I
Speaker 6: think the warm Aaron Fenway and the familiarity of States
Speaker 6: again last week out in Sacramento, We'll give the Red
Speaker 6: Flocks enough to get over two and a half in
Speaker 6: the first five.
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Speaker 5: Let's go to a CLIPS Award winning Michael Baychok to
Speaker 5: kind of shed us some light, tell us what's going on,
Speaker 5: kind of explain what's going on between Nira Churchill, Downs,
Speaker 5: prem Lico and the Triple Crown. Michael, how are you?
Speaker 9: I'm great? How are you guys today?
Speaker 3: Doing? Good? Man?
Speaker 5: We miss you? And del mar I mean, yeah, I'm
Speaker 5: missing it.
Speaker 9: I missed it too. I was down here in one
Speaker 9: hundred degree one hundred and ten degrees heat and y'all
Speaker 9: are out there and are throwing on sweaters at five o'clock.
Speaker 3: After what's this y'all stuff?
Speaker 6: I was.
Speaker 3: You hurt?
Speaker 5: My intro explain we touched on it a little bit yesterday,
Speaker 5: but fill us in what is this a cat? Miles's
Speaker 5: negotiations and Fox got squeezed out to pimblic or NBC
Speaker 5: have any power? And is this the thing? And you
Speaker 5: know it's you know now? Is it the Belmontsern? Is
Speaker 5: this set in Stone where the pimblic go has been
Speaker 5: to running Pritnans three weeks after higher percentage to get
Speaker 5: the Derby winner there, and is the Belmont going to adjust.
Speaker 9: A lot of questions.
Speaker 5: I know, I think I'm wanted a.
Speaker 9: Time first, just to kind of set the stage. You know,
Speaker 9: there's been so much talk over the past, especially the
Speaker 9: last two years, because the Derby winner has not run
Speaker 9: in the preness, which you know was in the past.
Speaker 9: It happened every I don't know, five ten years, you know,
Speaker 9: when the Derby winter wouldn't run in the pregnance for
Speaker 9: different reasons, but two years in a row, you know,
Speaker 9: kind of threw a shockwave through the industry and so
Speaker 9: the talk was always, you know, you need to move
Speaker 9: the freakness, which is two weeks after the Derby to
Speaker 9: maybe three weeks after to give horses up, you know,
Speaker 9: another week to recover, which is what the excuse of
Speaker 9: the trainers who had Derby winners would say. So that
Speaker 9: was not gonna apparently happen. So Churchill Downs about two
Speaker 9: or three months ago was notified that they had they
Speaker 9: had the rights to there, to the merchandising and the
Speaker 9: television rights, so they had an option to buy if
Speaker 9: Maryland did not exercise their option. Two months ago, Maryland
Speaker 9: exercised their option the state of Maryland to basically retain
Speaker 9: the Preaknous rights. Well at that time, then the big company,
Speaker 9: which is Churchill downs their for profit corporation publicly listed
Speaker 9: stock trade. The company basically had to make a move
Speaker 9: and say, okay, how do we enhance the value again
Speaker 9: of our property now that we've lost the rights to
Speaker 9: the Preakness, which we wanted to control the whole as
Speaker 9: much as the trip of crowns we could, and they
Speaker 9: Nyra the Belmont formed a partnership and formed a new
Speaker 9: series of races for three year olds with a five
Speaker 9: million dollar bonus. I believe it's six races over the
Speaker 9: course of the summer and the fall, and if you
Speaker 9: come up with the most points in that series, you're
Speaker 9: going to win five million dollars, which put the Printness
Speaker 9: in a pretty bad spot because now you're offering you know,
Speaker 9: not only huge persons for a series of races individually,
Speaker 9: but also at the end of that five million dollar bonus, Well,
Speaker 9: any horse owner you know, worth their stalls who wants
Speaker 9: to make money would probably not want to run into
Speaker 9: previous because there's so much money at the end of
Speaker 9: the rainbow, and you we've discussed before. To me, there's
Speaker 9: really hardly any value over the past few years of
Speaker 9: running in the pretinous because the value you're only kind
Speaker 9: of diminishing your value if you lose, right, and then
Speaker 9: you're you're taking you're taking a race off the table
Speaker 9: for your horse. Your horse only has so many races
Speaker 9: to run in his career, and you're basically taking one
Speaker 9: off and saying, you know, we're gonna waste this race.
Speaker 9: That's kind of the decision to Sovereignty, the owners of
Speaker 9: Sovereignty and the owners of Golden Tempo basically made this year.
Speaker 9: It's like, why are we wasting a race on the
Speaker 9: pregnous when wet the Belmont? Yeah, the Triple Crown, but
Speaker 9: the Triple Crown. Getting the Triple Crown is not worth
Speaker 9: post race career monetarily what it used to be. Winning
Speaker 9: the Derby and winning the Belmont together is worth just
Speaker 9: as much as winning the Triple Crown. Maybe that might
Speaker 9: be overstating it. It may not be worth as much,
Speaker 9: but it's negligible. So there's no value in running in
Speaker 9: the pregnant, So the pregnance had to do something, so
Speaker 9: they moved this week. They moved their race to three
Speaker 9: weeks after the derby, and they're gonna run it on
Speaker 9: a Sunday, and they have NBC rights, which NBC had
Speaker 9: the rights. Way, So the Triple Crown, you know, in
Speaker 9: its previous form, does not really exist anymore, except for
Speaker 9: the fact that there are three races in a uh
Speaker 9: what is it, two five eight week span now that
Speaker 9: still constitute the Triple Crown. But the pregnance has moved
Speaker 9: back a week. The Belmont, I don't believe has moved
Speaker 9: So the Belmont will be run three weeks after, three
Speaker 9: weeks after the pregnance.
Speaker 6: So you know, I don't think.
Speaker 5: Wait, wait, wait, Michael, Michael, wait two weeks right, no, no,
Speaker 5: now now two weeks now.
Speaker 3: It's still five weeks door to door for the three races.
Speaker 9: Yeah, okay, okay, So so I don't think the pregnance
Speaker 9: is really like the uh track has done anything to
Speaker 9: attract the derby winner, because the derby winner really wants
Speaker 9: to run now in the bell On and it has
Speaker 9: for years wanted to run into Belmont. So it's a mess.
Speaker 9: It's a total mess. It's a symptom of just the
Speaker 9: industry partners and people, well they're not partners really, they're competitors.
Speaker 9: And you know, there is no for the general good
Speaker 9: like there is in college football or pro basket, pro
Speaker 9: pro sports, you know, where there's a commissioner that's going
Speaker 9: to sit down and say, you know, tell this team
Speaker 9: or this that team or this conference of that conference
Speaker 9: to do what they what they should and shouldn't do.
Speaker 5: So no chance of the Belmont moving back a week now.
Speaker 9: I think it messes up their entire other schedule of
Speaker 9: the new.
Speaker 5: Okay, so we're going to see who wins out. We're
Speaker 5: going to see who wins out. Now that it's it's
Speaker 5: more enticing for the Derby winner to run in the
Speaker 5: Preakness eight days later than it has been. But also
Speaker 5: this five million dollar perse about winning this sixth series.
Speaker 5: You know, between Bellmont, Saratoga and Churchill Down.
Speaker 4: If you can run the Derby, the Belmont and the
Speaker 4: Travers would be next in this sixth race series, Dandy Travers.
Speaker 4: Okay to Jim Dandy, then you got no room for
Speaker 4: the Preakness. You gotta run the Pregnance of the bellm
Speaker 4: But you're not gonna run both and if you're gonna
Speaker 4: get that and get that. But you know, and there's
Speaker 4: more money in the Belmont than there is in the Preakness.
Speaker 9: Well, there's more money. I don't know what the person.
Speaker 9: The person may be the same, but there's why I.
Speaker 4: Mean the individual persons, Michael. I meant you know, if
Speaker 4: you if you win the Belmont, you're you're going towards
Speaker 4: this five million dollar bonus. If you win the Preakness,
Speaker 4: even if the Preakness individual person is worth more money,
Speaker 4: you're more incentivized to running the Belmont because you're gonna
Speaker 4: be up for this bonus.
Speaker 9: And you're also the breeding rights for winning, like to
Speaker 9: win the Belmont, whether or not you win the pregnance
Speaker 9: or not, like if you don't, I'm not sorry. Whether
Speaker 9: you win the Derby or not, Winning the Belmont is
Speaker 9: much more valuable to the breeding shit post racing career
Speaker 9: than when. So if you had to choose right and
Speaker 9: you have a horse that you think is really good, oh,
Speaker 9: do I want to waste the race on the previous
Speaker 9: or do I want to waste it on the Belmont.
Speaker 9: The goal at the end of the rainbow is the Belmont.
Speaker 9: It's not the Preakness, you know, so because if you
Speaker 9: win the Belmont, it's really kind of like the third race,
Speaker 9: you know too, after the Breeders Cup Classic in the Derby.
Speaker 9: I mean it's like that is a signal that your
Speaker 9: horse is worth a lot in the breeding ship. The
Speaker 9: preak Mistakes has never been a place where, oh, man,
Speaker 9: that sire won the Preakness, let's go, let's go breed
Speaker 9: our horse to him, you.
Speaker 3: Know, because you're bred for distance? Is that? Is that why?
Speaker 9: Because you doesn't have this Yes, yeah, speed and distance.
Speaker 9: I mean winning a mile and a half is the
Speaker 9: speed distance race. People think it's my famine a race,
Speaker 9: but it's it's it's both.
Speaker 5: Michael in sixty seconds or less. What's what's the status
Speaker 5: of the fair grounds with Churchill?
Speaker 9: Downs great, we're gonna they've come to some agreement. They
Speaker 9: got some money this year from the from the state.
Speaker 9: Uh that Churchill has not put the track up for sale.
Speaker 9: They have put about six of their other properties up
Speaker 9: for sale, and so it was a good sign that
Speaker 9: about a month ago when Churchill announced that they had
Speaker 9: six properties, some of them racetracks, that they're trying to
Speaker 9: sell Fairgrounds was not in that group. So that means
Speaker 9: there's some sort of commitment to racing at the fairgrounds,
Speaker 9: and the state has supplemented for one year. It's a
Speaker 9: one year thing, some of the persons. So you know,
Speaker 9: we're gonna have racing at the Fairgrounds this year, and
Speaker 9: it's going to be good. It's going to be really good.
Speaker 9: And yeah, I mean, I do not I do not
Speaker 9: have a picture a big racing day, big racing day tomorrow,
Speaker 9: the Whitney. I think it's the Whitney Day at Saratoga.
Speaker 5: Yes it is, it is. Yeah, yeah, it's a really
Speaker 5: good race, really good race. Give credit, give thirty four
Speaker 5: dollars exam but you ah, yes, indeed, but with the
Speaker 5: winner yesterday, I Michael good stuff Man will be in touch,
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Speaker 4: Tomorrow Drew Brees will be officially inducted into the Pro
Speaker 4: Football Hall of Fame. So a pretty cool visual this morning.
Speaker 4: And our friend Todd Graves, who has done this for
Speaker 4: LSU Championships, extended the same thing to Drew Brees, which
Speaker 4: is we've seen the baseball football, women's basketball champions you
Speaker 4: know they go work a day at Keynes, they go
Speaker 4: work the drive through for an hour and it's a
Speaker 4: cool promotional stunt and everything that they do well.
Speaker 3: He let Drew Brees go work.
Speaker 4: The the drive through in Canton today for at Cayne's,
Speaker 4: So that was cool. But he had some surprise visitors
Speaker 4: this morning, Ricky Jackson, Willie Rove, and Martin Anderson all
Speaker 4: showed up in their in their gold to greet him.
Speaker 4: It was a really cool visual to see the four
Speaker 4: Hall of Famers, the three that are in and Breeze
Speaker 4: going in tomorrow. Uh, so cool on top, we wanted
Speaker 4: that together Hall of Fame.
Speaker 5: Do they because you saw some Hall of Famers roaming
Speaker 5: around the stadium and I watched the whole game last
Speaker 5: night won for Breeze and then the game was off
Speaker 5: the charts entertaining for a Hall of Fame game. But
Speaker 5: I'm wondering, what do they do they pay for all
Speaker 5: of the Hall of Fame members for the calm, yeah,
Speaker 5: you know, or just the invited them all. I mean
Speaker 5: we're getting into a big number with a four hundred
Speaker 5: now or something like that, so I mean just the
Speaker 5: but that is is so rare. This is only the
Speaker 5: fourth for the Saints. And he is he's the he's
Speaker 5: the he's the back dad, he's the best Saint.
Speaker 3: He's the first one, first ballot guy.
Speaker 5: First ballot, which I mean, he's the best Saint ever. Period.
Speaker 5: I mean it's not it's not not close. And but
Speaker 5: that's cool. Ricky get velut there. Yeah, those those those
Speaker 5: are great.
Speaker 4: Morten Anderson said, okay, you got you get twenty minutes
Speaker 4: your speech, twenty minutes.
Speaker 3: That's it. You got to keep it under twenty.
Speaker 5: Minutes with that's with Peyton and him combined his part.
Speaker 5: I think his part on yeah, okay.
Speaker 4: And Peyton I think taped the introduction that's going to
Speaker 4: play on the big video boards and then he's gonna
Speaker 4: go up there with him. They wanted to they want
Speaker 4: to get it right, so they taped it.
Speaker 3: Peyton okay.
Speaker 5: So I wanted to make sure because yeah, he did listen,
Speaker 5: and I can speak from experience, I mean, when you're
Speaker 5: emotionally involved, I mean you don't, you don't get every
Speaker 5: word that you want to go mess it up. So
Speaker 5: he wanted to want to take the emotion out and
Speaker 5: kind of make sure he that's you.
Speaker 3: Know, yeah, looking forward to that tomorrow.
Speaker 9: Uh.
Speaker 4: The Hall of Fame broadcast on ESPN is scheduled for
Speaker 4: eleven to one thirty. I'm not sure exactly what time
Speaker 4: Breeze is going to.
Speaker 5: Speak, but you enjoy the kind of the conversations, yes,
Speaker 5: any kind of all of them. But of course with breeze.
Speaker 5: And the one that sticks out to me, Charlie is
Speaker 5: when he said, man, we spent so much time together,
Speaker 5: so much much preparation, me and Peyton, and when he's
Speaker 5: calling to play, he's baby a tenth of the way
Speaker 5: in and they're like, Oh, I know what he's calling,
Speaker 5: and I know why he's calling it.
Speaker 3: Village.
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Speaker 1: He's out there somewhere in the world, maybe even your
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Speaker 6: Why can anybody help us?
Speaker 1: Let's bring in Bruce Marshall.
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Speaker 3: Sure? Sure?
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Speaker 6: You're back?
Speaker 5: Yes, I'm back, Yes I'm bad. Yes I'm back, I hope.
Speaker 10: But keep that Gavin loose and T shirt in California.
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Speaker 3: Very political, Bruce.
Speaker 5: You know, I may have spent one hundred, one hundred
Speaker 5: and fifty nights in uh the San Diego, California area.
Speaker 5: You know how many political conversations I've engaged in. I've
Speaker 5: got the over under on a half. I'm taking under. Yes, yes,
Speaker 5: it's minus one eighty yes, yes, so yeah, del Mari
Speaker 5: is different, isn't it? But it's it's it's a little
Speaker 5: to me, man, it's a little slice of heaven. I
Speaker 5: think it's really a great town, a great brand town.
Speaker 5: So anyway, what uh get us caught up?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 5: Well? What what you're thinking here? Well? I mean we
Speaker 5: do are we were? We do we have the conclusion
Speaker 5: of the World Cup? Or we back at square one?
Speaker 5: I mean it was just did we give up all
Speaker 5: the momentum that we earned? How about the Hall of
Speaker 5: Fame game?
Speaker 3: Geez?
Speaker 5: So much from my under angle in in Canalis, Mark Kanalis,
Speaker 5: Dave canw What the hell was his first name? Darg Yes,
Speaker 5: Dave so Dave? Maybe Mark been called a place last
Speaker 5: night that anyway, you know, they only scored three, three, ten,
Speaker 5: twelve and thirty one games in six previous preseason games,
Speaker 5: and they go scored thirty three. It might have been
Speaker 5: highest scoring Hall of Fame games. It's the sixties, geez,
Speaker 5: that was not a typical Hall of Fame game. I
Speaker 5: don't know where you want to start, Brucy.
Speaker 10: Yeah, well we'll click on the World Cup. Since then,
Speaker 10: and to talk to you about that, Sincenana, Yeah, the
Speaker 10: right team one. Since then, Arasio Pino has re signed
Speaker 10: with the US on a long deal. I mean I
Speaker 10: didn't I thought that was sort of a long s.
Speaker 10: I still don't know that he's the right choice. A
Speaker 10: little too prosaic, and I think that was proven in
Speaker 10: that match against Belgium. But they're throwing a lot of
Speaker 10: money at him, and it's a lot less pressure than
Speaker 10: he'd be feeling in the club side in Europe, where
Speaker 10: things happened crazily. I mean, we're got Newcastle, I mean
Speaker 10: the coach just resigned, I mean either of the season.
Speaker 10: So I mean stuff happens like that, and so I
Speaker 10: don't blame Pochaccino for taking easy money that I don't
Speaker 10: know that he is the right choice whatever. Last night, yeah,
Speaker 10: I was another one of those thinking the under us
Speaker 10: a way to go. You know, they hadn't had last
Speaker 10: year they scored. There was forty one points scored in
Speaker 10: that Charger Lion of Hall of Fame game. That was
Speaker 10: the most in a dozen years in a Hall of
Speaker 10: Fame game, and before that you had to go back
Speaker 10: seventeen years before you found another game that high scoring.
Speaker 10: But generally they have been lower scoring games, and these
Speaker 10: teams in recent years have not in recent preseasons have
Speaker 10: not done much. But I think we saw a couple
Speaker 10: of things. And I don't want to overreact to one
Speaker 10: preseason game, especially the first one in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 10: But James King is eventually going to be the Panthers quarterback,
Speaker 10: and people are going to look around and say, why
Speaker 10: wasn't this guy drafted. The Panthers had their eye on him,
Speaker 10: and they went out and signed him almost immediately after
Speaker 10: the draft ended. Brought him in as a free agent,
Speaker 10: but they had their eye on him. And I still
Speaker 10: maintain had he been at Indiana last year, I still
Speaker 10: didn't get he had a wins the national title and
Speaker 10: he might have won the Heisman. It's just a matter.
Speaker 10: I mean, the perception of this stuff in the NFL
Speaker 10: GM group think gets things wrong a lot, and I
Speaker 10: think they got one totally wrong on this kid. I
Speaker 10: think he's going to beat Bryce Young out eventually, not
Speaker 10: at the start, pretty will eventually, and they really haven't.
Speaker 10: They haven't committed fully the Young yet, you know, beyond
Speaker 10: this year. So and we'll see how that works. On
Speaker 10: the other side, Carson Beck, again, I don't want to
Speaker 10: get cleared away with the first the Hall of Fame game.
Speaker 10: He looks poised, he looks like everything the Cardinals want
Speaker 10: hearing from camp about them. Broussette is a bridge quarterback
Speaker 10: and they do have him signed for this year. I
Speaker 10: don't think that's beyond this year for him, and I
Speaker 10: know Brissett. The stats did look so bad last year,
Speaker 10: but I think those were receiving because once he got
Speaker 10: that win over the Cowboys in that Monday night game,
Speaker 10: after he took over the starting job, they didn't win
Speaker 10: again the last two months of the season. And I
Speaker 10: think his record as a starter the last several years
Speaker 10: in the variety of teams is like eight and thirty one.
Speaker 10: He's not the answer. Carson Beck might be, and that's
Speaker 10: the situation. I could see him actually moving in before
Speaker 10: the season is over. He got a new coach and Michaelafloor.
Speaker 10: They're excited about that. Again, don't want to get carried away,
Speaker 10: but that's one of these situations. If the Cardinals are
Speaker 10: sitting at the five and you know, four and eight,
Speaker 10: you know, come around Thanksgiving, uh, trying to move back
Speaker 10: in the lineup. So I could see both those quarterbacks
Speaker 10: from last night eventually starting games in the NFL, maybe
Speaker 10: sooner rather than later.
Speaker 5: That's interesting. You think you think that Haines King is
Speaker 5: the guy to because Charlie and I will kind of
Speaker 5: have a discussion about, you know, who do we take
Speaker 5: more for? And Haines King and Beck could not have
Speaker 5: looked any better. Okay, he looked comfortable. He's got three
Speaker 5: year starting experience. I think if he had one year,
Speaker 5: we look completely different. And he also played in Miami
Speaker 5: in a progression offense. Give Shannon Dawson, you know, local guy,
Speaker 5: some some credit for prepared I think it. I think
Speaker 5: we think the Titans quarterback is going to be I
Speaker 5: mean he's gonna he's gonna be a long term starter.
Speaker 5: I mean, A's a Beck. I mean, so part of
Speaker 5: this and we'll have to see with Mensa, you know,
Speaker 5: coming through that system, it's sort of a progression instead
Speaker 5: of the Reid option kind of you know, running, it's
Speaker 5: a different it's a pro style offense, a pro style
Speaker 5: preparatory offense that we're seeing with Miami at this stage.
Speaker 5: But I thought Haines King, who was asked completely to
Speaker 5: do something completely different last night than what he did
Speaker 5: as Georgia Tech career. But god, he looked comfortable throwing
Speaker 5: from the point. I know he scored the winning touchdown
Speaker 5: on a run, but he was not unsettled in the pocket.
Speaker 5: One look, I thought, I thought, man, he might have
Speaker 5: a chance, and then you know, because but he showed
Speaker 5: no signs that he might be prepared as a de
Speaker 5: to throw from the pocket and what they were asking
Speaker 5: him to do with Georgia Tech.
Speaker 10: Bruce, Yeah, you're right, and that you made a good
Speaker 10: point there the comforting. They didn't look rattled at all.
Speaker 10: I mean, he knows how to play football. I mean
Speaker 10: that's we saw a difference. And he looked at Kenny
Speaker 10: Pickett' staff, So I look so bad last night. But
Speaker 10: he didn't look nearly as impressive as King, and I
Speaker 10: think the King will eventually supplied him as the backup
Speaker 10: at the start of the season. Wanted to do King,
Speaker 10: and you know, the emergency quarterback at the start. Ticket's
Speaker 10: a great example. Picket had one good year at TIT
Speaker 10: and got everybody excited about and Steelers put a first
Speaker 10: round pick on him. Didn't work. And I maintain that
Speaker 10: has put the Steelers back several years because that was
Speaker 10: supposed to be the guy to take Ben Roethlisberger's place.
Speaker 10: He didn't cut it, and they've been scrambling around with
Speaker 10: different quarterbacks and they're bringing Rogers back for another year.
Speaker 10: It's it's it's didn't work. Pickett is just not as
Speaker 10: comfortable as King. I think we saw that least saying.
Speaker 10: I think King reminds me a bit a little bit
Speaker 10: of bow Knicks actually similar stuff. I was talking to
Speaker 10: Gretton Oridsworth about that.
Speaker 5: It almost in comparison.
Speaker 10: Yeah, he almost likes King a bit more. He thinks
Speaker 10: Nick says a little bit of a wonky throw delivery,
Speaker 10: and he sort of does. He's working with Sean Payton,
Speaker 10: so that's good for him. But no, I think King
Speaker 10: is is going to be fine. And I'm interested to
Speaker 10: see how this evolves in Carolina too with Bryce Young,
Speaker 10: because like I said, they're sort of committing to him,
Speaker 10: but then that door open. I don't think they've extended
Speaker 10: that contract yet or the way Young they're Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 10: I don't think beyond another year. I think King by
Speaker 10: next year is going to be their quarterback. We will see.
Speaker 4: Well, hang on a second. They didn't go long term
Speaker 4: with him, but they did commit to the fifth year
Speaker 4: on Bryce Young. So he's under contract this year, and.
Speaker 5: They what they want to kick. They want to see more.
Speaker 4: I don't know that he's going to get a chance
Speaker 4: while Bryce Young is under contract, unless he just completely
Speaker 4: throws up on himself.
Speaker 5: No, they want to see more on the Young.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, yes, So you're under contract for twelve million
Speaker 4: this year, it's twenty six next year. That's on the books,
Speaker 4: that's committed for Carolina.
Speaker 5: And the money invested usually is they're going to give,
Speaker 5: They're going to gage or yes, yeah, yeah, every chance.
Speaker 5: You know your words. But I think bo Nicks is
Speaker 5: a great and I'll expand upon your point, Bruce, is
Speaker 5: that because they're both such good runners, and the best
Speaker 5: runners are the hardest ones to get settled into pocket.
Speaker 3: It just are.
Speaker 5: But bo Nicks and and uh and she's a blank.
Speaker 5: Now I'm getting old Bruce, he so much. How did
Speaker 5: you remyb able to retain memories so much better than
Speaker 5: me in the long Yes, fair enough so the uh
Speaker 5: But anyway, they both they both want to run, they're
Speaker 5: both fidgeting in that pocket, and they both have been
Speaker 5: settled down. But this was one game and no love, Bruce,
Speaker 5: I don't know what the percentage of quarterback play in
Speaker 5: preseason translates to the regular season. We talked about a couple.
Speaker 5: We saw Russell Wilson do it, We saw Dak Prescott
Speaker 5: do it and boom and they they would they were,
Speaker 5: they were stars in the preseason and translate. We've seen
Speaker 5: so many others where it's just garbage because they're trying
Speaker 5: to evaluate talent as far as you know, on the
Speaker 5: defensive side, as opposed to trying to out scheme and
Speaker 5: confuse the opposing quarterback.
Speaker 10: Yeah, and that's the thing. I mean, you're not sure
Speaker 10: what they're facing here, and they're experimenting on defense too,
Speaker 10: So we you know, I've got to pump the brakes
Speaker 10: a little bit on what we say all last night
Speaker 10: back to young. I mean, this was the year though,
Speaker 10: and if they wanted to commit to this is the
Speaker 10: year you go longer term on. I'm not just extend
Speaker 10: the one more year, which I think that you know,
Speaker 10: the Niners have brought thirty and others. If they would
Speaker 10: convince Young was the guy, they wouldn't have just added
Speaker 10: that one more year. They sort of had to do
Speaker 10: that now. And just because he's he's young the books
Speaker 10: doesn't mean he's going to start next year. You know,
Speaker 10: if if they don't think he's the guy, if they
Speaker 10: fall flat this year with Young at quarterback, then I
Speaker 10: say he's not. Doesn't matter the contract, he won't be
Speaker 10: the guy next year. So we got to, you know,
Speaker 10: keep an eye on that too. By the way, one
Speaker 10: other thing about haines Kin. You know he's one of
Speaker 10: those Jimbo guys and who was once playing at A
Speaker 10: and M. And Connor Wagman is still playing. I mean
Speaker 10: calzadawas there last year. You know, Max Johnson is still
Speaker 10: playing college football. He is at Georgia Southern this year.
Speaker 10: He's one of those guys who've been at A M,
Speaker 10: at Jimbo. This is his seventh season. He's twenty five
Speaker 10: years old and he's still playing college football. I think
Speaker 10: that's just me the cross that looking at the Sun
Speaker 10: Belt and like, oh my god, Georgia Southern Max Johnson.
Speaker 10: His career continues, all.
Speaker 5: Right, Brucey to the Paunch deal real quick. Twenty teams
Speaker 5: in the Premier League. How many other teams in those
Speaker 5: European leagues are comparable to Where?
Speaker 3: Where?
Speaker 5: Where does Paunch fit? I don't know if it's thirty,
Speaker 5: if it's forty teams or whatever. But is he not
Speaker 5: one of the top thirty coaches in the world.
Speaker 10: You're talking about Pocino?
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, yeah, yeah, Well no, I know he's got
Speaker 5: a short time job with the US. I mean, you know,
Speaker 5: the little little part time gig. But why is he
Speaker 5: not coveted or is he? And he just adds it's on.
Speaker 10: Oh no, he was, I mean and they were. I
Speaker 10: heard his people were talking to ac Milan and at
Speaker 10: the point, there was a point last spring Tottenham really
Speaker 10: wanted to bring him back. Now they ended up the
Speaker 10: timing wasn't right. They brought the Serbia and it was
Speaker 10: like the coach last year and they finally they avoided relegation.
Speaker 10: So now they're with him, but they had talked on
Speaker 10: him back to Todtenham. Things changed so much in European soccer.
Speaker 10: Big jobs open up all the time, and Pochettino would
Speaker 10: always be on a short list for any of those
Speaker 10: high profile jobs. But along with that comes enormous, enormous pressure.
Speaker 10: I mean, he had been at Chelsea, he had been
Speaker 10: at PSG. Didn't last very long at either of those,
Speaker 10: and they didn't do it. He didn't do all that badly,
Speaker 10: but I mean the pressure is this. This is a
Speaker 10: comfy gig at the US and he gets to stay
Speaker 10: here and it's not that demanding. So I think he
Speaker 10: just sort of looked at a lifestyle thing and said,
Speaker 10: you know, this is not a bad deal. I'm getting
Speaker 10: paid close to what I would overseas, and you're right,
Speaker 10: it's not as probably one of those top jobs in Europe,
Speaker 10: but it's not a bad job. And national team coaching
Speaker 10: is listen, Jurgen Klopf just came back out of sort
Speaker 10: of retirement. He had been at Liverpool, great success brush
Speaker 10: Gilpin before that, a couple of years off. Now he
Speaker 10: is Germany's national team coach. Perfect situation. The national team
Speaker 10: coach doesn't have to work quite as hard now as
Speaker 10: many games. It's a great lifestyle, so I think that
Speaker 10: played into it. But you're right. I mean, I mean
Speaker 10: there's other jobs he couldn't you He'll still be out
Speaker 10: a short list.
Speaker 5: Where would you rank him in the world as a
Speaker 5: top coach? I have no idea for fifty sixty. I
Speaker 5: don't know.
Speaker 10: Oh he'd be down my list. I don't have him
Speaker 10: listen in front of it. He wouldn't be one of
Speaker 10: my guys setting he's too prosaic. There's a lot of
Speaker 10: other managers I like be such him. But he did
Speaker 10: get to a Champions League finally with Tottenham. He does
Speaker 10: his style seems to play. It's it's kind of a
Speaker 10: flashy front front, foot forward style. I mean maybe a
Speaker 10: top fifty coach I think, But I mean the top
Speaker 10: fifty coach was you know, there's going to always be
Speaker 10: room there. There's a lot of turnover and coaches in Europe.
Speaker 10: That's for sure. He'd get a shot. But stability too,
Speaker 10: I mean, he doesn't have to worry I think for
Speaker 10: the next four years. And that's there's something to be
Speaker 10: said for that too.
Speaker 5: All right, the Dodgers pick up school, well, we know
Speaker 5: with the impact he's going to have on the negotiation
Speaker 5: or was that ret least we think? Would you and
Speaker 5: stuff like that. But they've lost six in a row.
Speaker 5: They're still plus one sixty that is not moved much
Speaker 5: at all during this losing streak. So the odds makers
Speaker 5: are almost baiting some Dodgers support right now. They will
Speaker 5: be tough to beat. Adding Schooble in the postseason. The
Speaker 5: tricky one which has gotten him in the past is
Speaker 5: that five game short game short series, and they also
Speaker 5: wiggled out of one, but basically put pitching openers in
Speaker 5: that game for a pet go when they were down
Speaker 5: to one an elimination game against the San Diego Padres,
Speaker 5: which be tempted to take the Dodgers at plus one sixty.
Speaker 10: Now because I hate them, so I won't do it.
Speaker 5: So the brutes.
Speaker 10: Of being brutally honest. But let me just let me
Speaker 10: offer one thing here. I know that this this tremendous.
Speaker 10: You know about schoobl I know how good he is,
Speaker 10: but you're still talking to about a guy who pitches
Speaker 10: six innings maybe at best, every fourth game. He's not
Speaker 10: going to be the reason they win the World Series. Uh,
Speaker 10: They're gonna have to get Snell and Glass snow back. Now.
Speaker 10: Snell is coming close to his rehab By the way,
Speaker 10: I think it's a little curious. I mean, he had
Speaker 10: They do this every year, and I know Snell had
Speaker 10: a little, you know, elbow, get some loose particles out
Speaker 10: of there. He had one start. It's like they could
Speaker 10: have done this back in February. I think it's just
Speaker 10: my own thinking the dot once again, your sets, you know,
Speaker 10: bring Snell back late in the season. He's not that durable,
Speaker 10: but you can get a couple of months out of him.
Speaker 10: And now you ramp him up for October. They hope
Speaker 10: to get glass snow back. They hope to get showy
Speaker 10: in the mound at least, so Dodger fan saying, look,
Speaker 10: these are not the pitchers generally who have been pitching.
Speaker 10: You won't see she and you won't see lower pitching
Speaker 10: in the playoffs. But I'm loving this team here, and
Speaker 10: I think you can pitch around ready and and show
Speaker 10: he limit their damage if you can. I don't know
Speaker 10: about the rest of that land up. Lukie's looking a
Speaker 10: little old here, that is my thought. And they look
Speaker 10: pretty mortal. And by the way, they are now into
Speaker 10: the wild card round. If they no longer have the
Speaker 10: best record, they're number three, and that forces them into
Speaker 10: I mean they may. That would be Arizona, which they
Speaker 10: play this weekend, which is a winning record against the
Speaker 10: Dodgers the last couple of years of the Phillies. Maybe
Speaker 10: some team like that in a short, short series. I
Speaker 10: wouldn't want to face the Phillies with Sanchez, Wheeler and
Speaker 10: Lozardo coming at me one, two, three.
Speaker 5: No, they better.
Speaker 10: You know, you don't want to get in that wildcard
Speaker 10: run if you don't have to. And right now they're
Speaker 10: in that, so they better pick it up quick. And
Speaker 10: they need to get Smell and glassnow back pretty soon
Speaker 10: because these other pictures in the rotation. Even with scooboy,
Speaker 10: he's only one guy.
Speaker 6: You need some more help.
Speaker 10: And I think they need those big arms to come
Speaker 10: back sooner than later.
Speaker 5: Very interesting. All right, We appreciate you, you know, handicapping
Speaker 5: with your heart. But anyway, anything full schedule makesor League
Speaker 5: Baseball tonight, anything.
Speaker 3: That you like.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, I think they're almost have to look
Speaker 10: at the Red Sox to get again. I do it
Speaker 10: in a run line. It's not that bad of a
Speaker 10: price against the A's, who completely collapsed thirty two out
Speaker 10: of thirty nine, losing for the A's the other side
Speaker 10: is one thirty one to thirty six. I don't think
Speaker 10: we've seen two two more different when low streaks collide
Speaker 10: like this in a long time. They did play last
Speaker 10: week in Sacramento and that's Alaskia and the Red Sox lost,
Speaker 10: but Payton tole goes Tonight Perkins for the A's, he's
Speaker 10: really struggled. I did it on the run line. Maybe
Speaker 10: with them, I would, you know, Tampa Seattle is really
Speaker 10: having trouble and I haven't looked this morning. And Dan
Speaker 10: Wilson's got to be listen. They had to hire John
Speaker 10: Tortorella like the Golden Knights did down the stretch. Maybe
Speaker 10: they need him to shake it up because Seattle was
Speaker 10: just underachieving badly. Tampa Bay comes in off a sweep
Speaker 10: at the Denver and Drew Matt Rasmusen has been pitching
Speaker 10: lights out. That's a short price with Tampa Bay, and
Speaker 10: I might look at that one other one. Saint Louis
Speaker 10: Kyle Lahy bullpen guy. The last few years that he's
Speaker 10: been like the hottest nationallyge pitcher this summer is era
Speaker 10: is one point twenty one is last seven starts he
Speaker 10: has been under the radar. Good now. The Cardinals have
Speaker 10: lost his last three starts because they haven't scored any runs,
Speaker 10: and that's only some risk with them. I'm not sure
Speaker 10: about Jordan Walker, who's going to play tonight, but he's
Speaker 10: pitching so well. They are not out of the wild
Speaker 10: card race. Eater, I'm only three and a half back
Speaker 10: in Colorado, comes in with the worst road record in
Speaker 10: the Biggs and Ryan Felder with an A nine since
Speaker 10: the start of July. This is a night I could
Speaker 10: actually do it with the Cardinals on the run line
Speaker 10: about plus one thirty five or so with may He
Speaker 10: yet Bush first.
Speaker 5: Great stuff. As always, buddy, we appreciate it. We'll talk
Speaker 5: to you next week.
Speaker 10: Have a good week boys.
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Speaker 4: NFL uniform, you wouldn't say that he was out of place.
Speaker 3: He came in.
Speaker 4: We we got updated heights and waits yesterday on the
Speaker 4: roster at about three hundred and sixty pounds. He was
Speaker 4: an early enroll ly, okay, Jimmy, you saw him in
Speaker 4: a high school game in a superdome last fall.
Speaker 5: Two games, two games, and where he was Catholic at
Speaker 5: Burma Stadium and then also against American Heritage.
Speaker 4: In the Superdome, right, yes, and somewhere in the area.
Speaker 4: Three hundred and sixty pounds sound about that's fair, right, Okay? Ye,
Speaker 4: he's listed at three hundred and thirty nine pounds, and
Speaker 4: he looked. I stood next to him in the spring,
Speaker 4: you know, when we got to go in there, and
Speaker 4: then again yesterday I had to look kind of across
Speaker 4: the field at him. He is, he's down a little
Speaker 4: bit of weight. They got him working with that first
Speaker 4: un it he's going to be a factor. I don't
Speaker 4: know if he's going to play the first snap of
Speaker 4: the first game or if he's going to be a
Speaker 4: rotational piece in the first game and then become a starter.
Speaker 4: But all I know is he's gonna play and he's
Speaker 4: going to make a difference because he is a gigantic
Speaker 4: human being, yes, and he's That's some athleticism for as
Speaker 4: big as he is.
Speaker 5: Here's the thing that a lot of people don't know
Speaker 5: about him. And you know, I've got a lot of content.
Speaker 5: You know, my dad at car and everything else. He
Speaker 5: played aau basketball, He logged a lot of time. What
Speaker 5: does that mean, well, when did it means? Your feet
Speaker 5: are pretty good. But he's so big. But and I'll
Speaker 5: compare him to a little big a guy like Al Woods.
Speaker 5: Now Woods played a much lower classification. Car played a
Speaker 5: very difficult schedule. But he wasn't not And I know
Speaker 5: the Catholic people listening right now, they're like, he killed us,
Speaker 5: like he he he.
Speaker 3: I don't know how anybody in high school blocked him,
Speaker 3: to be honest, with his heritage.
Speaker 5: Didn't do a bad job, really, yes, indeed, it was
Speaker 5: his impact on the game. The American heritage and the
Speaker 5: Catholic game were completely different, completely different. And I thought
Speaker 5: he was just a little high and American heritage. That's
Speaker 5: a hell of a program, man. Yeah, okay, and uh,
Speaker 5: I just I just saw different, a different impact in
Speaker 5: But the weight, Charlie, his frame is so thick. He
Speaker 5: can only he could only lose so much. I'm sorry.
Speaker 5: His his his his legs are just tree trunks, man.
Speaker 5: And that's and you thought it was good weight too.
Speaker 5: That he's lost. Yeah, so he doesn't look he doesn't
Speaker 5: look fat. And Osron's well, he was a little at
Speaker 5: three sixty, yeah, but he wouldn't have looked out of
Speaker 5: place in the NFL uniform him. No, last year before
Speaker 5: the weight last year.
Speaker 4: You know, he looked he looked like Ted Washington. You
Speaker 4: remember Ted Washington used to who was as big a
Speaker 4: human being. Yeah, but that's what we look like.
Speaker 5: It's not not not bad. I think he's a little
Speaker 5: taller maybe, but well yeah, I mean, but Osron and
Speaker 5: what is the deal with coaching and college athletes today?
Speaker 5: They're scared to coach him. I don't think the video,
Speaker 5: the little snippet I saw with Ojon on social media
Speaker 5: is on stage Bunny's trans I think Ozon is going
Speaker 5: to coach this guy is you know and so and so.
Speaker 5: I think he's got to improve on his technique. But
Speaker 5: he's got and he is this before and both of
Speaker 5: them are going to play. They're completely different. But he's
Speaker 5: a growing he doesn't have to physically matures to fine
Speaker 5: tune his body if he can. But he is in
Speaker 5: the rotation. How impactful it's a lot to ask, you know,
Speaker 5: a guy you go from high school to to the SEC.
Speaker 5: That's a lot. And we have not seen a big
Speaker 5: success rate as far as that. But he is part
Speaker 5: of the rotation. He is going to we help LSU
Speaker 5: and their defensive for this year.
Speaker 4: The other defensive lineman who's been in the starting lineup
Speaker 4: since the spring and continues to be there, and at
Speaker 4: this point I'm gonna be surprised if he's not starting
Speaker 4: against Clemson. And that sduce Gerald's two hundred and seventy
Speaker 4: nine pounds at six foot one. Okay, that's undersized for
Speaker 4: an interior defensive lineman in the SEC. If you can,
Speaker 4: if you can play, and it's not because they don't
Speaker 4: have other guys, if you can play at that weight
Speaker 4: and make enough of an impact to hold a starting
Speaker 4: job as a freshman, I'll make a baseball comparison for
Speaker 4: a second, Jimmy, when Steven Milin came in and he's
Speaker 4: all a five foot six. If he stands up real straight,
Speaker 4: it's like, and if you're five foot six and you're
Speaker 4: in the starting lineup and you're recruited by a school
Speaker 4: like LSU, you've turned some heads because they're gonna look
Speaker 4: for somebody bigger than you every time, every chance they get.
Speaker 4: So if you keep beating all those guys out at
Speaker 4: five foot six, it means you can play.
Speaker 3: Well. We know Milin can play.
Speaker 4: He's beating people out, and he keeps taking first team
Speaker 4: reps to two hundred and seventy nine pounds as a
Speaker 4: true freshman. They got it, and we've seen just a
Speaker 4: little bit. You can play, kay, you have overcome. You're
Speaker 4: not just being put out there on potential.
Speaker 5: You can I like that you can play. Yes, I agree.
Speaker 5: And as far as Lamar Brown, who's you know it was,
Speaker 5: you know, the highly recruited defensive lineman. I mean him
Speaker 5: and Anderson. The only thing is that they're considered dls
Speaker 5: and that's it. It's so pally. I mean, Lamar Brown
Speaker 5: can run, man, he can run, and so he's gonna
Speaker 5: use that that that quickness and that speed on the edge.
Speaker 4: You know he came into carries it well, Yeah, he does.
Speaker 5: My goodness, he looks thin, looks almost thin, I mean
Speaker 5: for for for for defensive lineman, Charlie and I saw
Speaker 5: him play offensive tackle. I saw him playing, you know,
Speaker 5: because I saw several uhigh games last year as well.
Speaker 5: You high played rumble in that double header down in
Speaker 5: the Dome before car Carr and American Heritage. But he
Speaker 5: carries it well, and he's they just have completely different bills.
Speaker 5: They're gonna have different, different skills sets, but I'd love
Speaker 5: to see them at one point.
Speaker 4: Next to each other soul in the uniform. In the uniform,
Speaker 4: standing there, he looks very much like Marcus Spears looked
Speaker 4: as a freshman. He maybe a little bit shorter. Spears
Speaker 4: was about two nights.
Speaker 5: I thought Spears was a stockier looking then. Then Speers was.
Speaker 3: About six foot three, six foot four, and that's about
Speaker 3: what Brown is. That's just what he looks like in
Speaker 3: the uniform. I did.
Speaker 5: I did. I did his game his senior year. I
Speaker 5: did in uh in the Dome against kent Wood.
Speaker 3: I didn't do that game I did.
Speaker 5: I think, I just sed I did. I got a
Speaker 5: different little bit of of I thought. I thought Spears was,
Speaker 5: and I know what he is now, and I know
Speaker 5: what he was later when he became defensive lineman and
Speaker 5: he you know. But and I did a bunch of
Speaker 5: both the state championship games against Arcadia, I thought he
Speaker 5: was bigger. I'm just sorry. I just thought it was thicker, thicker.
Speaker 4: What I remember was Spears was a little bit shorter
Speaker 4: than Marquis Hill, who was about six foot six. Those
Speaker 4: are the two ends, and Spears was probably about two
Speaker 4: inches shorter than him, which is about what Brown is.
Speaker 3: Now that's and I think it is six.
Speaker 5: Marcus height.
Speaker 3: Within half an inch or so. Yeah, okay, say.
Speaker 5: But I think he has more of when they were
Speaker 5: coming at this stage of their career, coming out of
Speaker 5: high school. You know, a true freshman at LSU. He
Speaker 5: reminds me of Bill Moore to Marque's Hill. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 5: that's I think he's more spears more than the No. No,
Speaker 5: I think Lamar Brown is closer. He reminds me physically
Speaker 5: and looking more of Marque's Hill than Marcus Spears.
Speaker 4: Okay, I would go the other way, but that's you know,
Speaker 4: the beauty is in the eye of beholder. The only
Speaker 4: other thing I would mention with the heights and waights
Speaker 4: is Jordan's seaton. And we did this back in the spring,
Speaker 4: but he came through the summer. He played a three
Speaker 4: hundred and thirty pounds at Colorado last year. According to
Speaker 4: their roster, he was in the three fifteen range, in
Speaker 4: three ten range. In the spring. He comes in he
Speaker 4: clucks into three oh seven. So he is in excellent shape.
Speaker 4: In his money one a year, yeah, contract year, one
Speaker 4: a year. Not that he's not making a bunch of
Speaker 4: money here, but he will make more money next year,
Speaker 4: I think when he goes to the NFL.
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Speaker 4: And return here at Rafinos Live at Lunch. Clemson also
Speaker 4: starting their preseason practice this week. They had their opening
Speaker 4: day on Wednesday, weigh and on Wednesday. Look, this is
Speaker 4: all camp stuff, so take it with a grain of salt.
Speaker 4: But Debla Sweeney said two things in his opening press conference.
Speaker 4: Number one, he's throwing out the depth chart. Is nobody's
Speaker 4: a starter, we'll just see it. It's open competition. Okay,
Speaker 4: that's fine. But the part about the quarterbacks did catch
Speaker 4: my attention. I'm expecting uh, Christopher Vezina to be the
Speaker 4: starter when.
Speaker 5: They come here. I did, and I saw all the
Speaker 5: c people.
Speaker 4: And I would be very surprised if that's not the case.
Speaker 4: But he did talk about Tate Reynolds and the reps
Speaker 4: that he's gonna get, and then okay, so it's fine.
Speaker 4: You want to you want to keep your alledged starter,
Speaker 4: your proposed starter on his toes, that's fine. And he says, hey,
Speaker 4: don't count o. The third guy, Rob Bradley, like, wait
Speaker 4: a minute. You're gonna give three quarterbacks reps here at
Speaker 4: the beginning of camp and the interest of competition. Okay,
Speaker 4: you can do that, but it comes at a cost
Speaker 4: when you're breaking in a new starter. I mean, Club
Speaker 4: Nick's been there as a starter for three seasons, so
Speaker 4: you're you're starting fresh. The Zena came out of the
Speaker 4: spring as the guy that had the lead. I don't
Speaker 4: know how long they're going to chop up reps over there.
Speaker 4: You said yesterday or the day before like, look, man,
Speaker 4: you're a quarterback making their first start on the road
Speaker 4: in Tiger Stadium. That's a tough spot. We're gone against
Speaker 4: freshman on the road for a while, san first time start.
Speaker 4: Excuse yeah, first time I.
Speaker 5: Started, and hostile environment, which I think that will be
Speaker 5: the case.
Speaker 4: Yes, I think you can say that with with a lot.
Speaker 3: No, he not only is he not a freshman, he
Speaker 3: is a senior.
Speaker 5: But you know, fellas he loses to Clemson, it will
Speaker 5: be hostile in a different direction.
Speaker 4: But true, Uh true, he's got in uh in two
Speaker 4: hundred in fourteen career games. He's got two hundred and
Speaker 4: thirty eight offensive snaps. Okay, that's over three year period,
Speaker 4: so this is not a whole lot of I think
Speaker 4: he did start one game as a sophomore when somebody
Speaker 4: was hurt, but it wasn't a kyklublic. He's been there
Speaker 4: for a while.
Speaker 3: He's been there for a long time.
Speaker 5: Yeah, this guy has no real experience.
Speaker 4: Club took over for for DJU, who, by the way,
Speaker 4: is still in the league on the on the charge
Speaker 4: of charges.
Speaker 3: Quarterback.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, no, I think he's got more of a
Speaker 5: chance to be a tight end in a.
Speaker 4: Quarterback he's been, he's been a quarterback, so got no chance.
Speaker 4: You're you you're a little bit more plugged into Clemson
Speaker 4: than most just because of some friendships that you've made.
Speaker 5: It it's you know, the obvious is that Dabbo finally.
Speaker 5: You know when they were clemsoning quote unquote U they
Speaker 5: were you know, they were just so close, and it
Speaker 5: was it was frustrating because then it was a lot
Speaker 5: LSU's football history was a lot like that for a
Speaker 5: long long time that you know, right when you get
Speaker 5: to chance and then bam you get upset or you know.
Speaker 5: One of l s hu's biggest wins ever man the
Speaker 5: Orange Bowl Game. The Orange Game, the Orange is raining.
Speaker 5: You know, they could they clinch the winner Florida State.
Speaker 5: LSU was was going to, you know, get the Orange
Speaker 5: Bowl bid and it was second to last game of
Speaker 5: the season and they've beat him fifty five to twenty one.
Speaker 5: And it was the only time they Florida State in
Speaker 5: that five for none type of series. They're all at
Speaker 5: baton rus the only game they won and they lose
Speaker 5: as a twenty eight point favorite the next week to
Speaker 5: two lane. It's like, oh, we just get every time
Speaker 5: you get to a spot, you know, whether it's you
Speaker 5: know Gnardo mean, I mean, oh, you're a number six
Speaker 5: in the country and you're playing Georgia and man, what
Speaker 5: mean wait a minute, Clinty Carter starts twenty one for
Speaker 5: twenty one.
Speaker 3: How about after they beat number one Florida, they come back.
Speaker 5: Go o miss you know eleven thirty kick you know
Speaker 5: that whole bs and.
Speaker 3: So gave the whole spot how they had done that.
Speaker 5: Clempson, you know LSU fans, older LSU fans will know
Speaker 5: about the Clemson and can relate to it. And then
Speaker 5: they get they get it straight, they get their administration straight.
Speaker 5: The rad Kovich goes over there and restructures Diptay to
Speaker 5: where they start borrowing money instead of just relying on
Speaker 5: the money that they have saved up in bam A
Speaker 5: where they go and I mean, they're going in the
Speaker 5: prime of Nick Saban droond in Alabama. They're beating them,
Speaker 5: compete with them and beating them. And so I went
Speaker 5: to face them three times in a title game and
Speaker 5: beat them two out of three. Yeah, and then when
Speaker 5: they lost and they lost when they had the other
Speaker 5: quarterback down the Sugar Bowl, because I go to twenty
Speaker 5: four to six game or something like that. But the
Speaker 5: kid that went to Missouri for a little bit. But anyway,
Speaker 5: they finally and they changed the rules and he wait
Speaker 5: a minute, he spent all this effort restructuring the administration
Speaker 5: and the ip TA and everything else and bringing in
Speaker 5: better players, and all of a sudden, they change the
Speaker 5: rules and he doesn't want to adapt, and they all
Speaker 5: know it, and they're all tired of it, and they
Speaker 5: are up there frustrated with him that he is not
Speaker 5: being he's not embraced the new era. And the new
Speaker 5: era is different. It's way different. And one of the
Speaker 5: biggest deals at their quarterback for this year. They have
Speaker 5: a four year June fourth year junior in Vizino what's
Speaker 5: the name of Zenna Fasino and Razino like, wait, we
Speaker 5: are not high on him. We need to go get.
Speaker 5: The fans like, go get and compete with a transfer
Speaker 5: portal quarterback. Had they gone after a Mensa early and
Speaker 5: willing to pay his buyout, basically you know from Duke Man,
Speaker 5: it would have been a lot more excited, I have
Speaker 5: to believe. But he's sticking with this guy and he
Speaker 5: still has this stubbornness who's been more stubborn than Dabbos
Speaker 5: Sweeney in adjusting mind that it still has their job.
Speaker 3: In your opinions, he under real pressure this year, his job.
Speaker 5: And his when the athletic director oh to keep his
Speaker 5: job warm. If he had the arm, he was the
Speaker 5: same record that they had last year. They lost four
Speaker 5: or five games last year. What was it if if
Speaker 5: he lose five games, he might be going. I can't
Speaker 5: say for certain, but no, if he if they go
Speaker 5: seven and five, he's in jeopardy. Yes, concluding the bowl game.
Speaker 4: No, there's a bowl game six. They lost six. If
Speaker 4: you caught the bowl game.
Speaker 5: No, that's that's no. He would be It would be interesting,
Speaker 5: it would be interesting. And he can't he can't not.
Speaker 5: He can't even not go to the playoff again. It
Speaker 5: was only they're only two years to move from Wine
Speaker 5: to the conference. Yeah, they got into the conference championship
Speaker 5: game and they so.
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Speaker 4: Rouge returning here at Rafinos live at lunch. I'm just
Speaker 4: gonna have to get used to this, I guess, and
Speaker 4: I don't know what the what the future holds. But
Speaker 4: Texas has got an offensive lineman that is returning for
Speaker 4: a fifth year of eligibility. He started twenty three games.
Speaker 4: Name is Cole Hudson, twenty three starts, forty eight games
Speaker 4: at three different positions across the offensive line. Why am
Speaker 4: I bringing this up? Because he went to mini camp
Speaker 4: with the Browns and with the Cowboys. Okay, he went
Speaker 4: to two separate mini camps. Didn't make it, okay, didn't
Speaker 4: get off of the contract, move back to Texas.
Speaker 5: So this is this is like the defensive the defensive
Speaker 5: lineman from Indiana.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is like the it is yellows.
Speaker 5: You're gonna bring back the transfer from Florida that went undrafted.
Speaker 4: Apparently Jack Pivern Yeah, apparently not. It would have been
Speaker 4: cool if there was a corner that fit they they
Speaker 4: could have used there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he would.
Speaker 5: I wouldn't mind having rotation, baby. Oh no, he ain't
Speaker 5: have too many defensive lineman. You take as many as
Speaker 5: you can get.
Speaker 4: But yeah, this is part of the this is part
Speaker 4: of the lawsuit that was you know, in Colorado, and
Speaker 4: uh he filed suit in in Travis County, Texas.
Speaker 3: When Jimmy, when you file suit for eligibility in a
Speaker 3: local venue, what are your chances of success minus Alabama?
Speaker 5: Good? I only wonder you the only only only team
Speaker 5: that loss was that Alabama basketball.
Speaker 4: Right, yeah, and after and he got five games before
Speaker 4: they finally got it. But yeah, they they came back
Speaker 4: on it.
Speaker 5: Who else is lost at the home cooking?
Speaker 3: Oh Aguilar at Tennesse Yeah, he lost and and and
Speaker 3: we thought he was gonna win. That was that was
Speaker 3: a little bit of upset. But no, the record is uh, I.
Speaker 5: Mean Ipels had some He's had some losses there, man,
Speaker 5: with the you know, with the kid pulling out or
Speaker 5: them just basically reaching uh you know they couldn't reach
Speaker 5: a settlement or whatever. Nico it was last minute and
Speaker 5: then was in And that mean listens so much, man,
Speaker 5: I have We've seen it so many times. It's just
Speaker 5: a big, big advantage to have in that quarterback the
Speaker 5: second year start. Ohio State's gonna benefit from this year.
Speaker 5: Texas will Notre Dame, will Oregon will. I mean, there's
Speaker 5: just we saw Joe Burrow here. It's a big deal, man,
Speaker 5: where you have so many moving parts, but you can
Speaker 5: have that continuity at your quarterback coming back. It's a
Speaker 5: big deal.
Speaker 3: Were we may see some more of this, uh for
Speaker 3: for basketball.
Speaker 5: So you know, it's not just it's not just in.
Speaker 5: It's not just in at the college level where transfers
Speaker 5: and things like that. So, uh, University High they have
Speaker 5: a new quarterback. It might be familiar with them, knock skiffing.
Speaker 5: So along with other players somewhere, top junior running back
Speaker 5: prospect coming over from Lafayette Christian amongst a handful of others.
Speaker 5: Choice and I just mentioned. I just mentioned that we
Speaker 5: you know, I was at that U High Rummel American
Speaker 5: heritage call double Hatter in the dome last year. Well,
Speaker 5: Rustling comes to I'm sorry, Rumble Archipacial Rumble comes to
Speaker 5: town to play on you High. They will have a
Speaker 5: transfer quarterback Georgia farstar quarterback commitment Cultonusmeyer is on his
Speaker 5: way to Metori take over the reins at the Rumbles.
Speaker 4: Quarterback Well dad's uh, dad's on the Saint staff. So, uh,
Speaker 4: it was talk coming from Dallas. Yeah, they were. They
Speaker 4: were living outside of Dallas before then good, good for him. Uh,
Speaker 4: they'll be It's a big time quarterbacks. It's three big
Speaker 4: time quarterback uh out out of Louisiana in the same year,
Speaker 4: l s, U, Alabama and Georgia all signing quarterbacks that
Speaker 4: they think will be started forming the future to well.
Speaker 4: No Smyers out of Louisiana.
Speaker 5: Now yeah, yeah, but how do you think the second
Speaker 5: year quarterback of George is gonna do this year? Second
Speaker 5: year starting quarterback.
Speaker 3: I like him.
Speaker 4: I think that they will be in the playoffs and
Speaker 4: very much in contention to win the league.
Speaker 3: Again.
Speaker 4: I don't think of him as a big NFL prospect,
Speaker 4: but I do think of him as a very good college.
Speaker 5: Charlie, I told you yesterday and you just don't listen
Speaker 5: the cars at Beck. I know Shot is starting.
Speaker 3: In right right. Also told me, I was.
Speaker 5: Like, what am I saying? I'm telling you, Haines King
Speaker 5: and Carson Beck. They they couldn't have looked any better
Speaker 5: with the expectation level last night.
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