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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Big Blue Insider. Dick Gabriel with you

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<v Speaker 1>on a Thursday edition of our show, One day closer

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<v Speaker 1>to Kentucky Football, one day closer to the basketball as

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<v Speaker 1>well Blue White. As tomorrow night, we will be in Gainesville,

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<v Speaker 1>though we mean in the UK Network crew, so Tom

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<v Speaker 1>Leach will be calling football this weekend. Darren Headrick will

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<v Speaker 1>sit in on radio side with Jack Gibbings as the

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<v Speaker 1>Wildcats play the Blue White game tomorrow night. You'll hear

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<v Speaker 1>it right here on six point thirty WLAP. When you

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<v Speaker 1>talk about the Florida Gators, though you talk about a

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<v Speaker 1>Kentucky blest, sound like Joe Knuxhall, don't know you talk about,

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<v Speaker 1>but you're talking about a Kentucky team that of late

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<v Speaker 1>four to the last six has beaten the Gators and

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<v Speaker 1>now Florida without Graham Mertz, a six year quarterback, he's

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<v Speaker 1>done for the year, he's done with college football injured.

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<v Speaker 1>So now TJ. Lagway is the quarterback and the Wildcats

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<v Speaker 1>will dial up I'm sure a lot of interesting looks

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<v Speaker 1>on defense for him. We will come back and talk

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<v Speaker 1>about that in just a minute, but we need to

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<v Speaker 1>point out a couple of things first, of All Volleyball

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<v Speaker 1>with a big win last night down in Tennessee. Wildcats

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<v Speaker 1>four and two in the league. Doesn't look like they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna win the conference this year. They won seven straight

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<v Speaker 1>because they just lost to Texas. That would have been

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<v Speaker 1>big to knock off the Longhorns at home, But now

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<v Speaker 1>you're playing for postseason. So Kentucky with another win against

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<v Speaker 1>a brutally tough schedule. Four and two in the league,

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<v Speaker 1>ten and seven overall. Asian thig Pen with fifteen kills,

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<v Speaker 1>a freshman with her first start last night, So Wildcats

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<v Speaker 1>pick up a big win on the road. They play

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<v Speaker 1>against Sunday down at Alabama, three o'clock. It's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be on sec plus Lexingon's Walker Buehller showed out last night,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't he? Game three at the NLCS Dodgers ended up

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<v Speaker 1>winning that one eight nothing. Bueller got the start, went

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<v Speaker 1>four innings, had eighteen swings and misses. If you watched

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<v Speaker 1>it all, a lot of movement on his pitches. He

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<v Speaker 1>looked like his old self, and he turned it over

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<v Speaker 1>to his teammates the bullpen, Shoel Tani who had a

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<v Speaker 1>home run. And this is something the Dodgers needed. To

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<v Speaker 1>see from Walker. He has missed the better part of

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<v Speaker 1>three seasons. Enry Clay product Vanderbilt, a first round draft pick,

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<v Speaker 1>but he has been struggling since those two different surgeries,

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<v Speaker 1>and he has really not looked like himself for the

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<v Speaker 1>most part until last night, and he looked really good.

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<v Speaker 1>So now you're a step closer to the World Series

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<v Speaker 1>if you're the Dodgers and a Dodger fan. Something really

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<v Speaker 1>interesting I found on Twitter this morning. You may have

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<v Speaker 1>seen it, but Michael Leaves responded to this. Michael, of

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<v Speaker 1>course a Kentucky native. He's from Western Kentucky, worked for

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<v Speaker 1>US at KYT, worked up with me in the sports

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<v Speaker 1>department now at ESPN. But he retweeted a message a

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<v Speaker 1>graphic from a guy who goes by Matthew leb on

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<v Speaker 1>extra Twitter. This guy put up a map of New

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<v Speaker 1>England and circled Connecticut and Rhode Island and he wrote this.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, I honestly believe college basketball means more in

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<v Speaker 1>this red line than any other part of the country.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you sold out a scrimmage and thousands more

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<v Speaker 1>watched on TV without Providence even being involved. You could

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<v Speaker 1>make the argument that the two most passionate fan bases

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<v Speaker 1>in college basketball. He's a little biased. I know are

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<v Speaker 1>in this area well, Michael, of course, now a national voice,

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<v Speaker 1>tweets back and maybe your belief in all caps, but

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<v Speaker 1>it is nowhere near factual. No state or area exceeds

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<v Speaker 1>the passion for college basketball like Kentucky. This coming from

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<v Speaker 1>someone who grew up in Kentucky and currently resides in

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<v Speaker 1>New England. Michael lives in Connecticut working for ESPN, and

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<v Speaker 1>Michael knows where if he speaks. Michael lived in the

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<v Speaker 1>Lodge for at least one year when he was a

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<v Speaker 1>college student and worked camps for Rick Patino when he

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<v Speaker 1>was in school, and it was tight with a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the players, and of course knows Kentucky basketball inside

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<v Speaker 1>and out. And I can understand why this guy would

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<v Speaker 1>get all excited about basketball in that area, especially with

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<v Speaker 1>yukon going back to back. But when you're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>the length and breadth of college basketball fan bases, and

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<v Speaker 1>go back and look at the ratings, the TV ratings

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<v Speaker 1>for UK and UOL basketball. The number one station in

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<v Speaker 1>America for college basketball ratings is WLKY and Louisville, the

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<v Speaker 1>CBS affiliate. Why well, because they get those CBS big matchups.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, when UK or U of L are on,

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<v Speaker 1>when those teams play, the numbers are off the charts.

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<v Speaker 1>They get like seventy fives and eighties, just in general

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<v Speaker 1>the fan bases. Michael nailed it. Yeah, Like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>understand why you're excited right now, But to make a

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<v Speaker 1>statement like that, you're not paying attention. That's that's what

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<v Speaker 1>I always come back to. All right, back to football.

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<v Speaker 1>Quick note from the interweb. Talk to Justin Rowland about

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<v Speaker 1>this on Tom Leach's show this morning. Montavin Quizonberry, five

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<v Speaker 1>to nine receiver kick returner, has flipped from West Virginia.

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<v Speaker 1>He's going to go to Kentucky. Boyle County High School

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<v Speaker 1>and Neil Brown, the head coach at West Virginia, was

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<v Speaker 1>a diminutive wide receiver at Boyle County and at Kentucky

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<v Speaker 1>and he had Quistonberry. But he has changed his mind

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<v Speaker 1>and he has posted that he will be a Kentucky Wildcat.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's a big get for Mark Soops and his staff.

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<v Speaker 1>As Quistonberry's coming home, the Boyle County product says he'll

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<v Speaker 1>be a Wildcat Justin told me that as a high schooler,

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<v Speaker 1>Quistonberry has fifteen return touchdowns fifteen touchdowns on returns only,

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<v Speaker 1>and wants to be a return guy at Kentucky. And

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<v Speaker 1>that is valuable because you have to want to return kicks.

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<v Speaker 2>All right.

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<v Speaker 1>The Wildcats heading down to Gainesville, as we said, facing

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<v Speaker 1>a freshman quarterback. Anwar Stewart d line coach asked last

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<v Speaker 1>night about going into a game against the freshman quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>with an old line that's had its ups and downs.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know they've gotten bet up for you know,

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<v Speaker 3>old lion wise, they've gotten better, you know that way.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, he's really athletic, I can move.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, We're just gonna have to make it tough,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, up front, you know, be violent, play physical,

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<v Speaker 3>get out to the quarterback, get him off his point,

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<v Speaker 3>and make him uncomfortable.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the name of the game.

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<v Speaker 3>And what we want to do is we want to

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<v Speaker 3>finish and finish at his feet and see if we

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<v Speaker 3>can't get him to get that ball up in the

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<v Speaker 3>air where our defense d backs can get a few

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<v Speaker 3>pints a few tournaments.

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<v Speaker 1>That's anwar Stewart and the unit he is put together

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<v Speaker 1>for the Wildcats. That defensive front is the top area

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<v Speaker 1>of this football team. People have recognized that nationwide. That

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<v Speaker 1>will be the key to the game that will dictate

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<v Speaker 1>Kentucky's fortunes on Saturday night.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll have it for you right here. I want to

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<v Speaker 2>come with a Big Blue Insider Tony.

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<v Speaker 1>Franklin at the bottom of the hour. Former Kentucky assistant

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<v Speaker 1>on six thirty WLAP Welcome back to the Big Blue

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<v Speaker 1>Sider Dick Cabri with you coming up.

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<v Speaker 2>In a few minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>Tony Franklin, the former UK football assistant now a consultant.

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<v Speaker 1>Basically he coaches coaches other players around the country with

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<v Speaker 1>the Tony Franklin system. So we'll learn more about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Get his thoughts on Jared Goff, his prized pupil at

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<v Speaker 1>cal Berkeley and the football Wildcats as well. He is

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<v Speaker 1>a Kentuckian from Princeton, Kentucky, and was best known at

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<v Speaker 1>first as the head coach at Callaway County, where he

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<v Speaker 1>coached the great Pookie Jones. So we'll hear from Tony

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<v Speaker 1>coming up at.

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<v Speaker 2>The bottom of the hour.

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<v Speaker 1>Big story in college football. I think it's big. It's interesting. Nonetheless,

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<v Speaker 1>you know that loophole that Oregon used to beat Ohio State,

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<v Speaker 1>or helped him beat Ohio State when he ran a

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<v Speaker 1>twelfth guy on the field and yes, got penalized, but

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<v Speaker 1>it helped them burn clock and it forced Ohio State

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<v Speaker 1>in part to run out of time.

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<v Speaker 2>Quarterback made a bad decision at the end, of course.

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<v Speaker 1>But Oregon used a rule, broke a rule, and benefited

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<v Speaker 2>First thing I thought is, well, they're going to shut

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<v Speaker 1>What surprises me is how quickly rules people got together,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is a committee put together. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if there are any officials on that committee. I know

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<v Speaker 1>somebody once told me that on the basketball rules committee.

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<v Speaker 2>No former officials or current officials. They run it by them.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyhow, whoever the people are who get together, the

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<v Speaker 1>ads and maybe retired coaches whoever, and decide this as

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<v Speaker 1>part of an NCA committee. They quickly got together and

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<v Speaker 1>released a new rules interpretation and had to handle a

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<v Speaker 1>penalty for twelve players on the field. This comes in

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<v Speaker 1>the final two minutes of either half. You kind of

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<v Speaker 1>saw this coming. If the defense has twelve players actively

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<v Speaker 1>participate in the down, the offense can choose, along with

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<v Speaker 1>the five yard penalty, to have the game clock reset

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<v Speaker 1>to the time that had been displayed at the snap.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's up to the offense to choose that because,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, at times you.

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<v Speaker 2>May not want that time, You may want to burn

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<v Speaker 1>But and by the way, if it's a twelve man

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<v Speaker 1>situation where a guy's trying to get off the field

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<v Speaker 1>and he doesn't make it, that's not the same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>No time change would be made if that were the case.

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<v Speaker 1>But they moved quickly to shut this down after Dan

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<v Speaker 1>Lanning admitted Monday, yeah, his team intentionally used twelve men

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<v Speaker 1>on defense, and he talked about the fact that they

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<v Speaker 1>had kind of prepared for such a situation. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I assume he and his coaches, his staff sat around saying, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>what if we did this and investigated and realized there's

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<v Speaker 1>no downside, it's all upside. And how often is that

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<v Speaker 1>situation gonna come up? Not very maybe once a year,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe once every two or three years. But it worked

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<v Speaker 1>for the Ducks, and they've had a lot of big

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<v Speaker 1>wins in their program history. This is one of the

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<v Speaker 1>bigger wins as they upset the number two team in

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<v Speaker 1>the country, Oregon number three. I don't know why predicted

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<v Speaker 1>in Ohio State blowout, which I did. But at any rate,

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<v Speaker 1>these two teams may play well again in the playoffs,

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<v Speaker 1>they may play for a national championship. And if that's

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<v Speaker 1>the case, man, the buck Guy's got something for him.

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<v Speaker 1>But right now it's Oregon with the upper hand because

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<v Speaker 1>of that rule. But now nobody else can take advantage

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<v Speaker 1>of it the way the Ducks did in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 2>You know by now probably Tom Brady is an owner.

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<v Speaker 1>He has been approved as a minority owner of the

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<v Speaker 1>Las Vegas Raiders. He bought I think five percent of

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<v Speaker 1>but now that has put certain conditions on him as

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<v Speaker 1>a broadcaster. Brady has said in a letter release on

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<v Speaker 1>social media this week he's eager to contribute to the

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<v Speaker 1>organization in a way in any way he can, but

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<v Speaker 1>he cannot sit in now with producer, director, playbook play

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<v Speaker 1>guy in pregame meetings with players and coaches in the game.

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<v Speaker 2>He's going to broadcast, and that's big. I mean, I've

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<v Speaker 2>had a chance.

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<v Speaker 1>To do that a little bit through my career, such

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<v Speaker 1>In the NBA, Lonzo Ball is back. And say what

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<v Speaker 1>evidently he looked good last night. He hit a three pointer,

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<v Speaker 1>Ryder Cup. If you're a golf fan, you may have

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<v Speaker 1>been to the Ryder Cup. You may enjoy following this event.

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<v Speaker 1>The paying patrons you'll see paid a fortune for tickets.

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<v Speaker 1>Practice day tickets now two hundred and fifty five bucks.

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<v Speaker 1>than basketball, loved football, actually played football throughout his life,

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<v Speaker 1>And I sat next to Lonnie in the press box

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<v Speaker 1>Up next, Tony Franklin, former UK assistant. We'll talk about

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<v Speaker 1>WLAP Welcome back to the Big Winsider, joining us now

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<v Speaker 1>as a guy I've known for a long time when

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<v Speaker 1>he was an assistant coach at the University of Kentucky

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<v Speaker 2>As a student who's now doing some great things in

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<v Speaker 1>Coach Tony Franklin is back with us. He is, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>the Tony Franklin system.

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<v Speaker 2>But at coach, how are you.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm doing awesome, Dick. Was good to hear your voice

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<v Speaker 4>and good to think about all the great memories of

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<v Speaker 1>We were talking a little bit on the show the

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<v Speaker 1>other night about some of the things that you tweet out.

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<v Speaker 1>kind of being halftime of the football season with some

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<v Speaker 2>What really matters.

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<v Speaker 1>Now You're just kind of sharing the knowledge you've accrued

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<v Speaker 4>It's funny the I think that when I first, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>And today when I go on, I very simply just

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<v Speaker 4>it's been it's been very rewarding, especially this season, and

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<v Speaker 4>It's been good for me. And the good thing is

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<v Speaker 4>they and they send me It makes a difference. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>And you know, I've had a business since two thousand,

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<v Speaker 4>that they accepted is that it changed their life and

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<v Speaker 4>And then you know, high school coaches, you're high school

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<v Speaker 4>you get a job making sixty five. That's the same

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<v Speaker 4>as you know, being a big time college coach making

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<v Speaker 4>a mean and getting a job at to me, and

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<v Speaker 4>so it changes their lives. So it's fine. I enjoy

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<v Speaker 4>doing it. And it's the one that's like my brother

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<v Speaker 4>because you sure can't do anything else. So I keep

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you touched on a little bit, well, why has

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<v Speaker 1>this season been especially rewarding for you?

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<v Speaker 4>not worry about whether or not just built my business

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<v Speaker 4>or not, but make it more of can I help

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<v Speaker 4>stuff that you know, ha's happened to our country, and

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<v Speaker 4>you know, and being affected by myself from my hometown

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<v Speaker 4>and the people in Mayfield that I care so much about,

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<v Speaker 4>so many people that I knew, lost everything. So you know,

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<v Speaker 4>it's it's kind of a different reckoning with life when

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<v Speaker 4>been rewarding, and you know, the good thing is there's

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<v Speaker 4>lots of people that do appreciate it, whether they're high

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<v Speaker 4>school coaches, middle school coaches, fans, or college coaches or

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<v Speaker 1>Your website Touched the Tony Franklin System. One of the

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<v Speaker 1>testimonials is from a coach in Alabama. You said, since

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm certain it's very exciting, but there's more to

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<v Speaker 1>it than just plays and formations, am I right?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah? I mean the thing that everybody has good plays.

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<v Speaker 4>Every fan in the stands got a pencil and a

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<v Speaker 4>to go out and play, you know, one human being

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<v Speaker 4>against another, and the things that something extremely simple such

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<v Speaker 4>be taught. And what happens is that so many times

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<v Speaker 4>maintain the fundamentals and the details of when you release

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<v Speaker 4>You know, you got to be violent with your hands,

422
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<v Speaker 4>but you have to you have to do these things

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<v Speaker 4>in practice every day because the process is what makes

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<v Speaker 4>good football teams. The process that's what makes great coaches.

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<v Speaker 4>And the way college all is today is that if

426
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<v Speaker 4>you're not doing the process right, you're not going to

427
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<v Speaker 4>survive because everybody's your roster's changing completely every year, and

428
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<v Speaker 4>if you lose sight of doing the little things right,

429
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<v Speaker 4>then you're not going to survive in today's world.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it helps to have good players. And you've

431
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<v Speaker 1>coached a lot of good ones. You worked at Kentucky

432
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<v Speaker 1>with Dusty and then Jared Lorenzen, and in high school

433
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<v Speaker 1>at Callaway County you coached mister Football.

434
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<v Speaker 2>One of my favorite people in Pookie.

435
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<v Speaker 1>Jones, who also played at UK. So it helps when

436
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<v Speaker 1>you have good people as well as good well.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and that's the one thing that I say to everybody.

438
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<v Speaker 4>You know, when you're looking at a championship run and

439
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<v Speaker 4>having the best year, it starts with good players. You

440
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<v Speaker 4>can do all the other things right. I mean, some

441
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<v Speaker 4>of the best seasons I've ever coached were we were horrible.

442
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<v Speaker 4>The last season I was a head coach at Mercer

443
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<v Speaker 4>County High School, we were two and eight, and it

444
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<v Speaker 4>was one of the most rewarding seasons that I've ever

445
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<v Speaker 4>coached in football, because we got the most that we

446
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<v Speaker 4>could get out of them. And that's you know, that's

447
00:26:07.119 --> 00:26:10.359
<v Speaker 4>the part. If you don't have good players, sometimes good

448
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<v Speaker 4>players can overcome bad coaching.

449
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<v Speaker 2>I mean.

450
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<v Speaker 4>And it used to be that the way the college

451
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<v Speaker 4>system was built is that there were only you know,

452
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<v Speaker 4>four or five or six teams out there in the

453
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<v Speaker 4>country every year that we're going to have the best players.

454
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<v Speaker 4>But today it's different. You see Georgia now that what's

455
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<v Speaker 4>happened is that their twos aren't as good as they

456
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<v Speaker 4>used to be, the threes aren't as good as they

457
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<v Speaker 4>used to be. So now Georgia can actually get beat.

458
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<v Speaker 4>You know, the coolest thing in all of football right

459
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<v Speaker 4>now is Vanderbilt. You know, I got fired for losing

460
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<v Speaker 4>Vanderbilt when I was at all of them. You know,

461
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<v Speaker 4>Vanderbilt is the graveyard of coaches. If you go and

462
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<v Speaker 4>you lose the vany somebody's getting fired the next week usually,

463
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<v Speaker 4>And so for me it was me. And when Vanderbilt

464
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<v Speaker 4>beat Alabama and I watched that, the thing that I

465
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<v Speaker 4>had a gut in stink that Vanderbilt was gonna beat

466
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<v Speaker 4>Missouri because I love Pavio Jerry Kill is maybe the

467
00:27:06.960 --> 00:27:09.880
<v Speaker 4>best coach in all of football, the best pure football

468
00:27:09.920 --> 00:27:13.319
<v Speaker 4>coach in all of football. And what Vandy did, but

469
00:27:13.400 --> 00:27:16.759
<v Speaker 4>they had a head coach that swallowed any ego he had,

470
00:27:17.440 --> 00:27:20.000
<v Speaker 4>brought in a guy that's probably better than him, which

471
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<v Speaker 4>is what every great coach does. Got a lot of

472
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<v Speaker 4>good players to Mexico State, and I think that's well,

473
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<v Speaker 4>my god, in New Mexico State, are you kidding? Well, yeah,

474
00:27:27.640 --> 00:27:29.440
<v Speaker 4>and that's the team to beat Auburn thirty one to

475
00:27:29.480 --> 00:27:33.400
<v Speaker 4>ten at Jordan Hare. And Pavio is the guy that

476
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<v Speaker 4>on Auburn's sideline when he ran over there and somebody

477
00:27:37.160 --> 00:27:39.200
<v Speaker 4>bumped him or something, you picked him up and slammed them.

478
00:27:39.359 --> 00:27:40.920
<v Speaker 4>This guy's the guy you don't want to meet in

479
00:27:40.960 --> 00:27:44.119
<v Speaker 4>the back alley at twelve o'clock at night because he's

480
00:27:44.119 --> 00:27:47.400
<v Speaker 4>gonna whip your butt. And so they've got a formula

481
00:27:48.079 --> 00:27:51.400
<v Speaker 4>that works for them in today's world where they can

482
00:27:51.440 --> 00:27:53.480
<v Speaker 4>beat a good football team and they don't have the

483
00:27:53.519 --> 00:27:56.759
<v Speaker 4>best players, but they've got a formula that works for them.

484
00:27:56.799 --> 00:28:00.799
<v Speaker 4>And I love how their portal has one. It's a

485
00:28:00.880 --> 00:28:04.839
<v Speaker 4>portal where they go low and bring up good players

486
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<v Speaker 4>from lower schools, lower levels and bring them up, whereas

487
00:28:08.000 --> 00:28:09.640
<v Speaker 4>most people are looking. You know, when you're at a

488
00:28:09.680 --> 00:28:13.119
<v Speaker 4>lower deal, you're looking to take George's number three, right,

489
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<v Speaker 4>And I think that's a formula for failure.

490
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Interesting.

491
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<v Speaker 1>We're talking to Tony Franklin, former Kentucky assistant and now

492
00:28:20.920 --> 00:28:25.799
<v Speaker 1>he has created the Tony Franklin System, an online roadmap

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<v Speaker 1>if you.

494
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<v Speaker 2>Will, the football success.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll talk more with Tony after the break on six

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<v Speaker 1>thirty WLAP Welcome back. We're talking with Tony Franklin, former

497
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<v Speaker 1>Kentucky assistant coach and now the producer of the Tony

498
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<v Speaker 1>Franklin System online at coach tf dot com. It's really fascinating.

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<v Speaker 1>But I always enjoyed talking to you when you were

500
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<v Speaker 1>at Kentucky and following your career, and as I mentioned

501
00:28:48.519 --> 00:28:51.279
<v Speaker 1>at Cal, you coach Jared Goff, and I guess you're

502
00:28:51.319 --> 00:28:52.880
<v Speaker 1>not surprised at what the Lions are.

503
00:28:52.720 --> 00:28:53.640
<v Speaker 2>Doing right now, are you.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, it's another one of those things that in today's

505
00:28:57.880 --> 00:29:01.960
<v Speaker 4>world in the NFL, you just wonder how people do it.

506
00:29:02.480 --> 00:29:03.759
<v Speaker 4>Andy Reid, how does he do it?

507
00:29:03.799 --> 00:29:04.240
<v Speaker 5>Every year?

508
00:29:04.839 --> 00:29:07.599
<v Speaker 4>He's got a formula. Belichick had a formula and then

509
00:29:07.640 --> 00:29:11.559
<v Speaker 4>the formula. The formula didn't work anymore, and he didn't adjust.

510
00:29:12.119 --> 00:29:16.000
<v Speaker 4>But Dan Campbell's got a formula, and his formula is tough,

511
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<v Speaker 4>heart love, and they built players that can fit his

512
00:29:21.039 --> 00:29:23.960
<v Speaker 4>personality and if they can't, they're not going to make it.

513
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<v Speaker 4>And so together, what he did instead of what I

514
00:29:28.240 --> 00:29:31.720
<v Speaker 4>felt like at the time with McVeigh when Belichick handed

515
00:29:31.799 --> 00:29:34.720
<v Speaker 4>him his butt in the Super Bowl, then the scapegoat

516
00:29:34.759 --> 00:29:38.640
<v Speaker 4>was Jared. And so what Dan Campbell did when Jared

517
00:29:38.720 --> 00:29:42.440
<v Speaker 4>came in is he embraced him. He coached him hard,

518
00:29:42.599 --> 00:29:45.359
<v Speaker 4>he coached him tough that he surrounded him with better

519
00:29:45.359 --> 00:29:48.839
<v Speaker 4>players every year. And now all of a sudden, it's amazing.

520
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<v Speaker 4>You know, Jared's a great player again. And Jared's been

521
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<v Speaker 4>you know, Jared is a special young man. He's a

522
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<v Speaker 4>really good football player. He's a better person. He came

523
00:29:57.680 --> 00:30:00.319
<v Speaker 4>from really good people, and you know, he's in year nine.

524
00:30:00.319 --> 00:30:03.200
<v Speaker 4>He's been an All Pro, made the Pro Bowl three

525
00:30:03.240 --> 00:30:06.119
<v Speaker 4>or four times, been to a Super Bowl, and last

526
00:30:06.200 --> 00:30:08.359
<v Speaker 4>year almost pulled off, you know, a major run, and

527
00:30:08.400 --> 00:30:11.079
<v Speaker 4>hopefully this year he will again. So it's fun to

528
00:30:11.079 --> 00:30:13.839
<v Speaker 4>watch him do that. And you know, you mentioned Pooky

529
00:30:13.880 --> 00:30:16.079
<v Speaker 4>a while ago, and Pooki was one of my favorite

530
00:30:16.119 --> 00:30:17.240
<v Speaker 4>humans I ever coached.

531
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<v Speaker 5>You know, I went and.

532
00:30:19.160 --> 00:30:23.279
<v Speaker 4>Helped Pooky's son that is now at South Alabama, that

533
00:30:23.799 --> 00:30:26.400
<v Speaker 4>went to Grambling as a quarterback, and Pooky and I

534
00:30:26.400 --> 00:30:29.599
<v Speaker 4>still communicate and talk once every few weeks, and he's

535
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<v Speaker 4>loving living down in the Mobile area.

536
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<v Speaker 1>Now, great, you have coached in the state or you

537
00:30:34.720 --> 00:30:36.799
<v Speaker 1>did coach in the state of Kentucky high school and

538
00:30:36.880 --> 00:30:42.000
<v Speaker 1>college from what nineteen eighty eight through the early two thousands,

539
00:30:42.279 --> 00:30:44.519
<v Speaker 1>including a turn with the Lexid and Horseman?

540
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<v Speaker 2>Was that fun?

541
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<v Speaker 4>Most fun I've ever had, real car and nothing ever

542
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<v Speaker 4>would come close.

543
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<v Speaker 2>You know.

544
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<v Speaker 4>The thing with the Horseman was it was a group

545
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<v Speaker 4>of young men that played football very simply because they

546
00:30:58.200 --> 00:31:00.359
<v Speaker 4>loved the game. They got paid two hundred dollars game.

547
00:31:01.039 --> 00:31:04.720
<v Speaker 4>They you know, we worked our practice schedules around their

548
00:31:04.759 --> 00:31:10.359
<v Speaker 4>work schedules, and we formed a team that just really

549
00:31:10.400 --> 00:31:12.799
<v Speaker 4>cared about the game and liked each other. And we

550
00:31:12.880 --> 00:31:14.839
<v Speaker 4>had more fun and so, you know, instead of like

551
00:31:14.880 --> 00:31:18.119
<v Speaker 4>in college, you know, you got curfew, you've got bed checked,

552
00:31:18.160 --> 00:31:21.160
<v Speaker 4>you're going around making sure everybody's ready. You know, with

553
00:31:21.200 --> 00:31:23.440
<v Speaker 4>the Horsemen, I took the bus and we dropped them

554
00:31:23.480 --> 00:31:25.559
<v Speaker 4>off at the bars and told them we'd be back

555
00:31:25.599 --> 00:31:29.039
<v Speaker 4>at midnight and if they didn't show up, And they

556
00:31:29.079 --> 00:31:31.480
<v Speaker 4>showed up for a walk through the next day, and

557
00:31:31.519 --> 00:31:34.319
<v Speaker 4>we went out and played, and it was literally the

558
00:31:34.359 --> 00:31:37.160
<v Speaker 4>most fun I've ever had enjoying the game and just

559
00:31:37.279 --> 00:31:40.480
<v Speaker 4>enjoying young people. And you know, some of those guys

560
00:31:40.519 --> 00:31:42.880
<v Speaker 4>will be my friends forever, and we still communicate back

561
00:31:42.960 --> 00:31:45.319
<v Speaker 4>and forth with each other and it's fun to watch it.

562
00:31:45.400 --> 00:31:46.839
<v Speaker 4>So yeah, it was a pretty special deal.

563
00:31:47.000 --> 00:31:49.359
<v Speaker 1>I was a season ticket older for as long as

564
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<v Speaker 1>they existed.

565
00:31:50.000 --> 00:31:51.640
<v Speaker 2>I love that I didn't cover the game.

566
00:31:51.799 --> 00:31:53.839
<v Speaker 1>I did a little bit, but I just like my

567
00:31:53.960 --> 00:31:55.559
<v Speaker 1>son and me, we just sat up in the stands

568
00:31:55.599 --> 00:31:59.119
<v Speaker 1>and rooted for the Horsemen. Also on your resume, and

569
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<v Speaker 1>I think we talked aboutcause you and I spoke, I

570
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<v Speaker 1>think before the Super Bowl when Detroit was making a

571
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<v Speaker 1>run during the playoffs, we spoke. But you were a

572
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<v Speaker 1>coach of the Army's sprint team, right, What is it

573
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<v Speaker 1>like being a part of that program, being on that campus.

574
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<v Speaker 1>I can't imagine.

575
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<v Speaker 4>Every single day that I drove. I lived in Beacon

576
00:32:23.119 --> 00:32:27.160
<v Speaker 4>for Beacon, New York, which is about as the Crow flies.

577
00:32:27.200 --> 00:32:30.519
<v Speaker 4>It's probably five miles but on the roads from Beacon,

578
00:32:30.599 --> 00:32:33.920
<v Speaker 4>around the around the Hudson River and through the mountains.

579
00:32:33.960 --> 00:32:35.079
<v Speaker 5>It's about a thirty.

580
00:32:34.839 --> 00:32:38.359
<v Speaker 4>Minute drive to get there every day, and every day,

581
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<v Speaker 4>the moment I drove up on West Point on the campus,

582
00:32:43.920 --> 00:32:47.359
<v Speaker 4>my heart fluttered. I felt like I was the luckiest

583
00:32:47.359 --> 00:32:51.279
<v Speaker 4>man in the world. Mark west who was my first

584
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<v Speaker 4>quarterback that I ever coached at Murray High School in

585
00:32:54.880 --> 00:32:57.200
<v Speaker 4>nineteen eighty three when I was the hit football coach

586
00:32:57.200 --> 00:32:59.440
<v Speaker 4>at Murray High From nineteen eighty three to eighty five,

587
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<v Speaker 4>Mark is the head coach of the Army sprint team.

588
00:33:02.839 --> 00:33:06.400
<v Speaker 4>Mark went to West Point. He was a football player there.

589
00:33:06.400 --> 00:33:09.440
<v Speaker 4>He played on the sprint team. They've been playing football

590
00:33:09.480 --> 00:33:12.640
<v Speaker 4>for about sixty years there, sprint football. And now the

591
00:33:12.720 --> 00:33:16.920
<v Speaker 4>cool thing is is that he's coaching his second son

592
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<v Speaker 4>as the quarterback for the sprint team. He's had two

593
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<v Speaker 4>sons and now I go to West Point. His youngest

594
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<v Speaker 4>son is now his quarterback. But that year was again

595
00:33:26.839 --> 00:33:31.640
<v Speaker 4>just man. You talk about appreciating the sacrifices. The big boys,

596
00:33:31.680 --> 00:33:34.079
<v Speaker 4>as they call them, the real Army football, the ones

597
00:33:34.079 --> 00:33:35.799
<v Speaker 4>that go and play, you know, in front of forty

598
00:33:35.839 --> 00:33:38.160
<v Speaker 4>thousand people every week there on the road. You know,

599
00:33:38.680 --> 00:33:42.240
<v Speaker 4>they get some privileges. The guy's playing sprint football. They

600
00:33:42.240 --> 00:33:46.319
<v Speaker 4>got no privileges. They're running across campus trying to get

601
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<v Speaker 4>to practice on time. They got to lose weight. It's

602
00:33:49.480 --> 00:33:52.039
<v Speaker 4>like being a wrestler. You know, you might weigh one

603
00:33:52.119 --> 00:33:54.599
<v Speaker 4>eight eight and a game day you got to weigh

604
00:33:54.599 --> 00:33:57.359
<v Speaker 4>one seventy eight. And so they're losing weight, their missing

605
00:33:57.480 --> 00:33:59.839
<v Speaker 4>meals just to play football. And you talk about loving

606
00:33:59.839 --> 00:34:03.960
<v Speaker 4>the game of football, and that was just, oh my gosh.

607
00:34:04.000 --> 00:34:06.359
<v Speaker 4>I just felt so privileged every day. I wish I

608
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<v Speaker 4>could have afforded to go do it every year, because

609
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<v Speaker 4>I would have done it every single year for the

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<v Speaker 4>rest of my life. And I tell you a great story.

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<v Speaker 5>He was a defensive.

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<v Speaker 4>Coordinator and I told him at the end of the season,

613
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<v Speaker 4>I said, you know, I've worked with Manny Diaz, with

614
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<v Speaker 4>Will Muschamp, some of the best defensive coordinators in the

615
00:34:23.159 --> 00:34:27.639
<v Speaker 4>history of football, and the defensive coordinator for Army Sprint

616
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<v Speaker 4>Football was the best defensive coach I ever worked with.

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<v Speaker 4>And I told him after the season, I said, you know,

618
00:34:34.840 --> 00:34:38.199
<v Speaker 4>you could be anywhere coaching for anybody. You're better than

619
00:34:38.239 --> 00:34:41.039
<v Speaker 4>anybody I've ever coached with. And he said, I would

620
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<v Speaker 4>never for all the money in the world leave this place.

621
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<v Speaker 4>He said every single day that I drive here, I

622
00:34:50.440 --> 00:34:52.920
<v Speaker 4>am the most privileged man in the world. He was

623
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<v Speaker 4>a veteran and it was just so cool to have

624
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<v Speaker 4>the people that cared that much about it. And of

625
00:34:57.440 --> 00:35:00.880
<v Speaker 4>course from Mark, you know, he got program in dal

626
00:35:01.440 --> 00:35:04.360
<v Speaker 4>you know, he lives right there and he buried. He

627
00:35:04.480 --> 00:35:08.800
<v Speaker 4>married a cada She's a retired colonel. He's retired lieutenant colonel.

628
00:35:08.840 --> 00:35:11.719
<v Speaker 4>Her father was a general. So it's just a cool history,

629
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<v Speaker 4>very much so.

630
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<v Speaker 1>And we should have explained sprint football is for people,

631
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<v Speaker 1>as Tony said, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Can't weigh more than what one s eight. Yeah. Yeah,

633
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<v Speaker 2>it's all about.

634
00:35:21.800 --> 00:35:25.400
<v Speaker 1>Speed and agility and athleticism. And that's got the Tony

635
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<v Speaker 1>Franklin system written all over it.

636
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<v Speaker 2>Just a few minutes left.

637
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<v Speaker 1>But Tony Franklin, he of course, the former high school

638
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<v Speaker 1>successful high school coach in Kentucky and assistant at UK

639
00:35:35.679 --> 00:35:39.239
<v Speaker 1>coach running backs wide receivers, was the OC after Mike

640
00:35:39.360 --> 00:35:43.480
<v Speaker 1>Leach left, but coached at Troy Auburn Middle Tennessee cal

641
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<v Speaker 1>And let me ask you too, though about it, if

642
00:35:46.800 --> 00:35:49.199
<v Speaker 1>you've been able to keep an eye on Kentucky, because man,

643
00:35:49.239 --> 00:35:50.880
<v Speaker 1>this season is a head scratcher coach.

644
00:35:51.320 --> 00:35:55.039
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, And you know, I'll tell you what, the

645
00:35:55.880 --> 00:36:00.400
<v Speaker 4>whole the whole season for everyone's ahead scratcher. And so

646
00:36:01.679 --> 00:36:04.159
<v Speaker 4>I watched Kentucky a couple of times this year, and

647
00:36:04.559 --> 00:36:07.000
<v Speaker 4>you know, I said this before the season. I think

648
00:36:07.039 --> 00:36:10.480
<v Speaker 4>I was talking to Alan Color one day. And football

649
00:36:11.400 --> 00:36:14.360
<v Speaker 4>is constantly evolving. So there was a time where I

650
00:36:14.360 --> 00:36:16.559
<v Speaker 4>would watch Kentucky and go, man, if they would just

651
00:36:17.079 --> 00:36:19.119
<v Speaker 4>you know, run some of our stuff and go tempo

652
00:36:19.199 --> 00:36:21.159
<v Speaker 4>and do this stuff. As good as they are on defense,

653
00:36:21.199 --> 00:36:23.960
<v Speaker 4>you know, they could be contenders for the SEC. And

654
00:36:24.039 --> 00:36:28.280
<v Speaker 4>now it's just the opposite is that defenses continued to

655
00:36:28.320 --> 00:36:32.920
<v Speaker 4>get smaller, to adjust to the tempo stuff. Defenses became

656
00:36:32.960 --> 00:36:38.320
<v Speaker 4>three man fronts, and so what now is the advantage

657
00:36:38.679 --> 00:36:42.239
<v Speaker 4>is being big. Vanderbilt's success a lot of times Vanderbilt

658
00:36:42.360 --> 00:36:47.519
<v Speaker 4>in three backs, just like wishbone football, and today that

659
00:36:47.599 --> 00:36:51.400
<v Speaker 4>becomes an advantage. So for Kentucky, it's a weird deal

660
00:36:51.440 --> 00:36:54.760
<v Speaker 4>because you think about this a feel. Go against Georgia

661
00:36:55.280 --> 00:36:59.960
<v Speaker 4>and you know, another score against Vandy, and people are saying,

662
00:37:00.079 --> 00:37:02.360
<v Speaker 4>what a great year it is at Kentucky, one of

663
00:37:02.360 --> 00:37:05.039
<v Speaker 4>the best years ever. But that's just the way it is.

664
00:37:05.119 --> 00:37:07.880
<v Speaker 4>I did a podcast the other day for a West

665
00:37:07.960 --> 00:37:10.800
<v Speaker 4>Virginia group and they were asking things about Neil and

666
00:37:11.119 --> 00:37:13.199
<v Speaker 4>he's getting all kinds of heat there and people are

667
00:37:13.199 --> 00:37:14.719
<v Speaker 4>wanting him fired and all that, and I said, you

668
00:37:14.760 --> 00:37:16.679
<v Speaker 4>don't be careful what you wish for, and they go, well,

669
00:37:17.000 --> 00:37:19.039
<v Speaker 4>you know, we want Jim Bowsher. I said, Jimbo Fisher

670
00:37:19.079 --> 00:37:22.960
<v Speaker 4>can't hold Neil Brown's job. You know, Neil Brown is

671
00:37:23.000 --> 00:37:26.159
<v Speaker 4>a really good football coach, but guess what, so is

672
00:37:26.159 --> 00:37:30.039
<v Speaker 4>everybody else. They're all good and every week when you

673
00:37:30.079 --> 00:37:32.480
<v Speaker 4>go up and line up, you're going to play somebody

674
00:37:32.840 --> 00:37:35.239
<v Speaker 4>who has players that are just as good as yours,

675
00:37:36.119 --> 00:37:38.519
<v Speaker 4>and you're going to win some, you're gonna lose some.

676
00:37:38.639 --> 00:37:40.000
<v Speaker 4>If you have a great year of the ball is

677
00:37:40.039 --> 00:37:41.719
<v Speaker 4>going to bounce your way a few more times than

678
00:37:41.760 --> 00:37:45.360
<v Speaker 4>it doesn't. So people better be careful what they wish for.

679
00:37:45.519 --> 00:37:49.039
<v Speaker 4>And I don't have any I don't have much empathy

680
00:37:49.079 --> 00:37:52.360
<v Speaker 4>for coaches in that profession because they make a hell

681
00:37:52.360 --> 00:37:53.760
<v Speaker 4>of a lot of money to put up with the

682
00:37:53.760 --> 00:37:56.119
<v Speaker 4>craft that they put up with. So you know, a

683
00:37:56.159 --> 00:37:58.679
<v Speaker 4>high school coach is making forty thousand. I'm worried about

684
00:37:58.679 --> 00:38:01.400
<v Speaker 4>somebody walking through the hallways, the gun and shooting people

685
00:38:01.719 --> 00:38:04.119
<v Speaker 4>and listening to the same crap from his fans. So

686
00:38:04.559 --> 00:38:06.400
<v Speaker 4>I don't feel too bad for the college coach.

687
00:38:06.519 --> 00:38:09.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and now they're dealing with the nil and with portal,

688
00:38:09.519 --> 00:38:11.280
<v Speaker 1>and that's the conversation.

689
00:38:11.360 --> 00:38:13.000
<v Speaker 2>I'd love to have with you in another night.

690
00:38:13.159 --> 00:38:15.440
<v Speaker 1>Maybe when you're in town and we'll stop at Charlie Brown's.

691
00:38:15.519 --> 00:38:18.039
<v Speaker 1>We'll talk about that. But I wish I had more

692
00:38:18.079 --> 00:38:21.000
<v Speaker 1>time with you. Tony Franklin He is a former UK

693
00:38:21.079 --> 00:38:24.679
<v Speaker 1>assistant but now known for the Tony Franklin System, seminar

694
00:38:25.199 --> 00:38:28.400
<v Speaker 1>and great knowledge. He shares with us on Twitter or

695
00:38:28.559 --> 00:38:31.119
<v Speaker 1>x via Coach TF and the Coach.

696
00:38:31.199 --> 00:38:33.400
<v Speaker 2>Thanks. I'll try to touch base with you more often.

697
00:38:33.440 --> 00:38:34.800
<v Speaker 2>I love talking football with you.

698
00:38:35.679 --> 00:38:37.760
<v Speaker 5>Thanks Dick. It is so good catch up. Take care.

699
00:38:38.440 --> 00:38:39.719
<v Speaker 2>That'll do it for our number one.

700
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<v Speaker 1>Our number two brings us Maggie Davis of BBN Tonight

701
00:38:43.360 --> 00:38:47.920
<v Speaker 1>and Steve Russell, who is a broadcaster from Gainesville. We'll

702
00:38:47.920 --> 00:38:49.679
<v Speaker 1>get the lowdown on the Gators coming up in our

703
00:38:49.760 --> 00:38:51.599
<v Speaker 1>number two. Here on the Big Bomb Side or six

704
00:38:51.719 --> 00:40:28.360
<v Speaker 1>thirty w l a bag, welcome back to the Big

705
00:40:28.360 --> 00:40:31.119
<v Speaker 1>Blue Insider and joining us down our celebrity Hotline is

706
00:40:31.159 --> 00:40:32.199
<v Speaker 1>a longtime friend.

707
00:40:32.000 --> 00:40:32.360
<v Speaker 2>Of the show.

708
00:40:32.360 --> 00:40:35.599
<v Speaker 1>A though BB and Tonight Maggie Davis has been on

709
00:40:35.599 --> 00:40:36.719
<v Speaker 1>the air for how long.

710
00:40:36.559 --> 00:40:39.800
<v Speaker 6>Now, BB and Tonight, Josh, good question. I think this

711
00:40:39.840 --> 00:40:43.639
<v Speaker 6>will be our fourth basketball season. It's our fourth football

712
00:40:43.639 --> 00:40:46.760
<v Speaker 6>season right now. We started the COVID year because the

713
00:40:46.800 --> 00:40:49.039
<v Speaker 6>first year was so weird. At that point, I was

714
00:40:49.159 --> 00:40:53.159
<v Speaker 6>just a production assistant. Basically I was helping write the

715
00:40:53.199 --> 00:40:55.159
<v Speaker 6>show and do a lot of work behind the scenes.

716
00:40:55.159 --> 00:40:57.960
<v Speaker 6>But I believe that was in twenty twenty. So yeah,

717
00:40:58.119 --> 00:41:00.920
<v Speaker 6>going on our fourth year and is in person and

718
00:41:00.960 --> 00:41:03.880
<v Speaker 6>normal and fun and more fun when they win, of course,

719
00:41:03.920 --> 00:41:06.039
<v Speaker 6>but any time that we're not on ZOM it's a

720
00:41:06.039 --> 00:41:07.440
<v Speaker 6>good thing, right Yeah.

721
00:41:07.760 --> 00:41:10.280
<v Speaker 2>And now you're the co host. Go from production assistant.

722
00:41:10.320 --> 00:41:13.559
<v Speaker 1>You just kip your head down and your nose to

723
00:41:13.679 --> 00:41:17.159
<v Speaker 1>the grinding wheel and your co host with Keith Farmer

724
00:41:17.480 --> 00:41:21.199
<v Speaker 1>covering things all things UK and this is I know

725
00:41:21.239 --> 00:41:23.079
<v Speaker 1>it's a hectic time of year, but when you're filling

726
00:41:23.119 --> 00:41:25.039
<v Speaker 1>a show, you and I have talked about this. I

727
00:41:25.079 --> 00:41:28.400
<v Speaker 1>did it for so long at KYT. There's no such

728
00:41:28.440 --> 00:41:30.039
<v Speaker 1>thing as too much content.

729
00:41:29.719 --> 00:41:32.880
<v Speaker 6>As there no, definitely not. And I've actually made this

730
00:41:33.000 --> 00:41:35.599
<v Speaker 6>joke repeatedly over the last like two weeks, that I

731
00:41:35.920 --> 00:41:38.679
<v Speaker 6>complain when there's nothing going on, and it's hard to

732
00:41:38.719 --> 00:41:41.000
<v Speaker 6>fill a show in the summer, So I don't allow

733
00:41:41.039 --> 00:41:43.840
<v Speaker 6>myself to complain about being busy, right, I feel like

734
00:41:43.920 --> 00:41:47.559
<v Speaker 6>I can't complain both ways, So I'll take the busy

735
00:41:47.599 --> 00:41:51.039
<v Speaker 6>October if I can complain about a splow June every

736
00:41:51.039 --> 00:41:53.239
<v Speaker 6>once in a while. So no, I'm good. You're right.

737
00:41:53.679 --> 00:41:57.840
<v Speaker 6>Not never too much content, certainly too many hours probably

738
00:41:57.880 --> 00:42:01.480
<v Speaker 6>in the office and around the basketball facility, the football facility,

739
00:42:01.599 --> 00:42:04.840
<v Speaker 6>volleyball game. Softball is actually playing this weekend, which is

740
00:42:04.920 --> 00:42:07.280
<v Speaker 6>kind of crazy. So all sorts of fun stuff going on,

741
00:42:07.320 --> 00:42:09.000
<v Speaker 6>and it makes our show fun. And I'm sure you

742
00:42:09.000 --> 00:42:09.679
<v Speaker 6>feel the same way.

743
00:42:09.679 --> 00:42:12.360
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, and you know this is the overlap period,

744
00:42:12.400 --> 00:42:15.320
<v Speaker 1>as I said. And of course last weekend you had

745
00:42:15.360 --> 00:42:17.840
<v Speaker 1>the pro day at the beginning you and came in,

746
00:42:17.920 --> 00:42:21.599
<v Speaker 1>were there for that, And then of course madness football,

747
00:42:22.719 --> 00:42:25.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, volleyball. But let me let me start you

748
00:42:25.480 --> 00:42:28.760
<v Speaker 1>with madness. Because you guys talked to Rick Patino. How

749
00:42:28.800 --> 00:42:32.119
<v Speaker 1>surprised were you, Maggie that we knew he was coming

750
00:42:32.119 --> 00:42:35.159
<v Speaker 1>to the football game. People wondered would he make an

751
00:42:35.159 --> 00:42:38.239
<v Speaker 1>appearance at Madness or would he back off thinking, oh,

752
00:42:38.320 --> 00:42:41.440
<v Speaker 1>this is Mark's night, this is their night. But he

753
00:42:41.639 --> 00:42:43.920
<v Speaker 1>was clearly happy to be a part of it.

754
00:42:45.119 --> 00:42:47.440
<v Speaker 6>Well, I think the biggest thing is yes, he was

755
00:42:47.519 --> 00:42:49.599
<v Speaker 6>clearly so happy to be part of it. But I

756
00:42:49.639 --> 00:42:52.880
<v Speaker 6>think Mark Hope was so happy to have his coach

757
00:42:53.000 --> 00:42:55.760
<v Speaker 6>be part of it and to really welcome him back

758
00:42:55.800 --> 00:42:58.679
<v Speaker 6>into the fold in that way, to make it not

759
00:42:59.079 --> 00:43:01.320
<v Speaker 6>just about ri Petino but just part of the start

760
00:43:01.360 --> 00:43:03.880
<v Speaker 6>of the season, ushering in a new era, to have

761
00:43:04.400 --> 00:43:08.320
<v Speaker 6>players in national champions from so many different teams all honored.

762
00:43:08.360 --> 00:43:10.639
<v Speaker 6>And then, of course Rick Patino is the one who

763
00:43:10.679 --> 00:43:13.360
<v Speaker 6>comes out at the end and ultimately speaks to the

764
00:43:13.360 --> 00:43:15.559
<v Speaker 6>crowd and gets that welcome that he got, et cetera,

765
00:43:15.639 --> 00:43:18.400
<v Speaker 6>et cetera. But I think Mark Pope probably had a

766
00:43:18.440 --> 00:43:20.719
<v Speaker 6>lot to do with it. Obviously, the story early on

767
00:43:21.880 --> 00:43:24.239
<v Speaker 6>in the week leading up to the weekend was that

768
00:43:24.360 --> 00:43:26.880
<v Speaker 6>Mark Stoops had invited Rick Patino to the game. He

769
00:43:26.960 --> 00:43:30.239
<v Speaker 6>even said that on Saturday about the Vanderbilt football game,

770
00:43:30.320 --> 00:43:32.280
<v Speaker 6>So that was maybe one thing, and then it just

771
00:43:32.320 --> 00:43:35.000
<v Speaker 6>made too much sense that, man, this was happening that

772
00:43:35.079 --> 00:43:38.119
<v Speaker 6>exact day weekend. Obviously, Keenland is in session as well.

773
00:43:38.159 --> 00:43:41.199
<v Speaker 6>I actually didn't see any pictures of Patino out at Keeenland,

774
00:43:41.239 --> 00:43:43.519
<v Speaker 6>but I would have to imagine that he made it

775
00:43:43.519 --> 00:43:45.400
<v Speaker 6>out there at least for a little bit before he

776
00:43:45.840 --> 00:43:47.519
<v Speaker 6>somehow got back to New York in time for some

777
00:43:47.599 --> 00:43:49.960
<v Speaker 6>baseball games. So he's certainly been busy. But I think

778
00:43:50.000 --> 00:43:52.800
<v Speaker 6>it was important not only to Patino but really the

779
00:43:52.840 --> 00:43:56.000
<v Speaker 6>Mark Pope to have his coach in attendance and to

780
00:43:56.280 --> 00:43:58.400
<v Speaker 6>usher in this new era. Like I said, that is

781
00:43:58.800 --> 00:44:03.360
<v Speaker 6>so important to Pope to make it a family oriented experience,

782
00:44:03.480 --> 00:44:05.400
<v Speaker 6>and he said that so much in terms of this

783
00:44:05.519 --> 00:44:08.880
<v Speaker 6>is Kentucky's team and we're here for you and we're

784
00:44:08.920 --> 00:44:11.079
<v Speaker 6>all in this together and all of that sort of stuff.

785
00:44:11.079 --> 00:44:13.719
<v Speaker 6>And I think bringing Rick back was a big part

786
00:44:13.719 --> 00:44:14.400
<v Speaker 6>of that for him.

787
00:44:14.599 --> 00:44:16.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I really loved how they brought out all

788
00:44:16.760 --> 00:44:19.360
<v Speaker 1>the old players from every era they could find.

789
00:44:19.400 --> 00:44:21.079
<v Speaker 2>Basically, I will say it introduced them.

790
00:44:21.079 --> 00:44:24.960
<v Speaker 1>I know they were running short on speak, but but

791
00:44:25.039 --> 00:44:28.079
<v Speaker 1>that was fun as well. And what did you think

792
00:44:28.320 --> 00:44:31.199
<v Speaker 1>of because Mark Pope on media Day, you were there

793
00:44:31.199 --> 00:44:33.119
<v Speaker 1>when he said I'm not going to come out on

794
00:44:33.159 --> 00:44:35.960
<v Speaker 1>a motorcycle or something like that, because that's what Rick

795
00:44:36.000 --> 00:44:39.320
<v Speaker 1>did at one point, what did you think of the

796
00:44:39.320 --> 00:44:43.599
<v Speaker 1>way Mark Pope made his appearance, suddenly appearing in the

797
00:44:43.679 --> 00:44:44.880
<v Speaker 1>cheapest seats in the house.

798
00:44:45.960 --> 00:44:48.159
<v Speaker 6>Well, I thought it was perfect. It was so Mark Pope.

799
00:44:48.199 --> 00:44:50.559
<v Speaker 6>It's exactly what he's done since he's been here. And

800
00:44:50.599 --> 00:44:54.320
<v Speaker 6>that is, like I said, make this about Kentucky's team,

801
00:44:54.519 --> 00:44:58.199
<v Speaker 6>and in that moment, it is so much about the coach.

802
00:44:58.320 --> 00:45:01.400
<v Speaker 6>It is so much about Pope and the moment and

803
00:45:01.440 --> 00:45:04.039
<v Speaker 6>welcoming him in and wow, let's let's look at him

804
00:45:04.039 --> 00:45:06.559
<v Speaker 6>and put a spotlight on him and listen to him,

805
00:45:06.639 --> 00:45:09.840
<v Speaker 6>and all of this attention goes to him and that

806
00:45:10.000 --> 00:45:12.480
<v Speaker 6>is truly not the kind of coach or frankly person

807
00:45:12.519 --> 00:45:14.559
<v Speaker 6>from what I've seen, that Mark Pope is or what's

808
00:45:14.559 --> 00:45:16.760
<v Speaker 6>to be. So it totally makes sense to me that

809
00:45:16.840 --> 00:45:19.440
<v Speaker 6>in that moment, yes, you're all going to be looking

810
00:45:19.480 --> 00:45:21.400
<v Speaker 6>at him and the spotlight is still going to be

811
00:45:21.440 --> 00:45:24.440
<v Speaker 6>on him, but it's really about the fans and wow,

812
00:45:24.519 --> 00:45:26.800
<v Speaker 6>can you imagine what that is like for then? Can

813
00:45:26.840 --> 00:45:29.679
<v Speaker 6>you imagine what that section is like right now and

814
00:45:30.199 --> 00:45:32.639
<v Speaker 6>what they're feeling and seeing And it's so funny. And

815
00:45:32.920 --> 00:45:35.199
<v Speaker 6>you mentioned I'm co host every night with Keith Farmer

816
00:45:35.239 --> 00:45:37.400
<v Speaker 6>and We were talking about this on the air on

817
00:45:37.559 --> 00:45:40.559
<v Speaker 6>Monday following Man on the last Friday Night, and he

818
00:45:40.679 --> 00:45:43.239
<v Speaker 6>said on our show that he'd heard that Pope was

819
00:45:43.559 --> 00:45:45.079
<v Speaker 6>kind of questioning, I don't know if I'm going to

820
00:45:45.159 --> 00:45:47.119
<v Speaker 6>do it? Can I do it? And then ultimately gets

821
00:45:47.159 --> 00:45:49.280
<v Speaker 6>up there and it's trying to hide so it can

822
00:45:49.360 --> 00:45:51.239
<v Speaker 6>be a surprise and have like, you know, it's put

823
00:45:51.360 --> 00:45:54.519
<v Speaker 6>up or whatever, trying to camouflage up on the back

824
00:45:54.639 --> 00:45:56.719
<v Speaker 6>row of a prena back against the wall, and I'm like,

825
00:45:57.039 --> 00:45:59.440
<v Speaker 6>our Pope, man, you are way too tall to blend

826
00:45:59.480 --> 00:46:02.440
<v Speaker 6>in to any crowd, especially in all your UK year

827
00:46:02.519 --> 00:46:04.480
<v Speaker 6>or whatever. But I love that it worked out. And

828
00:46:04.599 --> 00:46:06.480
<v Speaker 6>yet I would love to take here from some of

829
00:46:06.480 --> 00:46:09.079
<v Speaker 6>those bands who were in that section, because I think

830
00:46:09.079 --> 00:46:11.760
<v Speaker 6>that had to be an incredible experience. And then even

831
00:46:11.840 --> 00:46:14.840
<v Speaker 6>to another extent, the players doing their own version of

832
00:46:14.880 --> 00:46:16.800
<v Speaker 6>it later in the night was really cool.

833
00:46:16.840 --> 00:46:20.280
<v Speaker 1>I thought, you know, I thought that it almost felt

834
00:46:20.280 --> 00:46:22.519
<v Speaker 1>like Caliperi. And I don't mean any of this to

835
00:46:22.519 --> 00:46:25.719
<v Speaker 1>ever be just a knock session on Caliperi, but you know,

836
00:46:25.719 --> 00:46:28.039
<v Speaker 1>it did run its course. We all know that I

837
00:46:28.079 --> 00:46:31.760
<v Speaker 1>felt like he had kind of tired of madness. You know,

838
00:46:32.199 --> 00:46:35.920
<v Speaker 1>and this was just more of the new life being

839
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<v Speaker 1>pumped into the program.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I think there are certain events that just kind

841
00:46:40.440 --> 00:46:43.000
<v Speaker 6>of lose a little bit of their sparkle year after

842
00:46:43.039 --> 00:46:45.920
<v Speaker 6>a year, especially if they're done in a very similar way,

843
00:46:45.960 --> 00:46:48.159
<v Speaker 6>and it is hard to reinvent the wheel. And that's

844
00:46:48.199 --> 00:46:50.679
<v Speaker 6>not just John Caliperry. I mean I think you could

845
00:46:50.719 --> 00:46:53.719
<v Speaker 6>say that about football events, volleyball events, anything that is

846
00:46:53.760 --> 00:46:57.360
<v Speaker 6>the exact same every year. It's hard to build excitement

847
00:46:57.400 --> 00:46:59.199
<v Speaker 6>and a lot of it, especially when you think about

848
00:46:59.239 --> 00:47:01.480
<v Speaker 6>basketball season and how the past few.

849
00:47:01.400 --> 00:47:02.280
<v Speaker 5>Years have gone.

850
00:47:03.280 --> 00:47:05.599
<v Speaker 6>You have to think about how the year before ended,

851
00:47:05.679 --> 00:47:08.400
<v Speaker 6>and there's only so many times you can build up

852
00:47:08.440 --> 00:47:11.840
<v Speaker 6>excitement for a new season when you're just coming off

853
00:47:11.880 --> 00:47:14.280
<v Speaker 6>of a disappointing one. And I think last year, the

854
00:47:14.360 --> 00:47:17.039
<v Speaker 6>last year of cal Perry and his last Manness to

855
00:47:17.119 --> 00:47:19.199
<v Speaker 6>kind of think back to that actually was a really

856
00:47:19.239 --> 00:47:21.760
<v Speaker 6>good Big Blue Madness. I mean they brought out to

857
00:47:21.880 --> 00:47:25.159
<v Speaker 6>Marcus Cousins and there were some really fun moments. Obviously,

858
00:47:25.199 --> 00:47:28.800
<v Speaker 6>Big V had sort of just been introduced to BBN,

859
00:47:28.880 --> 00:47:31.679
<v Speaker 6>so he got a huge pop when he got introduced,

860
00:47:31.719 --> 00:47:34.239
<v Speaker 6>So there were some fun moments that I think he

861
00:47:34.360 --> 00:47:37.039
<v Speaker 6>deserves credit for helping create. But I also think a

862
00:47:37.039 --> 00:47:40.320
<v Speaker 6>lot of that was even with some disappointment from this season.

863
00:47:40.400 --> 00:47:43.599
<v Speaker 6>Prior to that, there was excitement with the reach shepherd

864
00:47:43.639 --> 00:47:46.679
<v Speaker 6>of it all, and DJ Lagner was a recruit fan

865
00:47:46.800 --> 00:47:48.840
<v Speaker 6>that heard him out forever, right, So there was some

866
00:47:49.039 --> 00:47:52.599
<v Speaker 6>natural excitement around that team that I'm not sure would

867
00:47:52.599 --> 00:47:56.599
<v Speaker 6>have necessarily been there had the Calipari era continued. But

868
00:47:56.679 --> 00:47:58.920
<v Speaker 6>you bring in a new coach, obviously all of that changes.

869
00:47:59.079 --> 00:48:01.559
<v Speaker 2>Maggie Davis is co host of BBN Tonight.

870
00:48:01.599 --> 00:48:03.639
<v Speaker 1>You see her each night Monday through Friday, and on

871
00:48:04.320 --> 00:48:07.639
<v Speaker 1>Game Day Kentucky Game Day on Saturdays. And we'll come

872
00:48:07.679 --> 00:48:09.559
<v Speaker 1>back and talk more with Maggie in just a minute

873
00:48:09.599 --> 00:48:13.199
<v Speaker 1>here on the Big Bulling Sider six thirty WLAP Welcome Back, We're.

874
00:48:13.039 --> 00:48:14.239
<v Speaker 2>Talking with Maggie Davis.

875
00:48:14.280 --> 00:48:17.719
<v Speaker 1>She and Keith Farmer co host BBN Tonight every weeknight,

876
00:48:17.800 --> 00:48:19.760
<v Speaker 1>and of course you see them on UK Game Day

877
00:48:19.800 --> 00:48:23.119
<v Speaker 1>on Saturday. Christy Thomas is one of the co hosts there,

878
00:48:23.679 --> 00:48:25.840
<v Speaker 1>and you and I talked a lot of basketball in

879
00:48:25.840 --> 00:48:27.400
<v Speaker 1>the first Seven'm going I gotta drag you over to

880
00:48:27.440 --> 00:48:32.360
<v Speaker 1>football now because this game with Florida, I think everybody

881
00:48:32.400 --> 00:48:36.719
<v Speaker 1>saws a big opportunity because Florida's had troubles. Kentucky has

882
00:48:36.719 --> 00:48:40.599
<v Speaker 1>played well against Florida through the years. Every game is new, though,

883
00:48:41.039 --> 00:48:44.639
<v Speaker 1>But now against the backdrop of that Vandy loss, and

884
00:48:44.679 --> 00:48:49.039
<v Speaker 1>of course Vandy rather at Florida loses at Tennessee in

885
00:48:49.119 --> 00:48:51.960
<v Speaker 1>a game it probably should have won. Man, this thing

886
00:48:52.039 --> 00:48:55.440
<v Speaker 1>is could be monumental, you know, for both programs.

887
00:48:55.599 --> 00:48:57.360
<v Speaker 6>Well, I think it will be, and I think that

888
00:48:57.480 --> 00:49:00.199
<v Speaker 6>this game always feels big for both programs. I think

889
00:49:00.199 --> 00:49:03.239
<v Speaker 6>it's interesting where it falls on the schedule this year.

890
00:49:03.599 --> 00:49:05.840
<v Speaker 6>This is maybe just me, but in my head, Florida

891
00:49:05.880 --> 00:49:09.079
<v Speaker 6>is normally a week two, week three matchup. I like it.

892
00:49:09.079 --> 00:49:11.800
<v Speaker 6>It's about halfway through the season this year. You know

893
00:49:12.000 --> 00:49:14.519
<v Speaker 6>more about both teams. You've seen them, not just in

894
00:49:14.519 --> 00:49:16.639
<v Speaker 6>a non conference, but you've seen how they've done against

895
00:49:16.679 --> 00:49:19.320
<v Speaker 6>other SEC teams and how they want to play, how

896
00:49:19.360 --> 00:49:22.000
<v Speaker 6>they want you to play. But obviously that will be

897
00:49:22.079 --> 00:49:25.000
<v Speaker 6>changing for Florida this week with their backup quarterback expecting

898
00:49:25.239 --> 00:49:27.960
<v Speaker 6>to make the start. He has started another game already

899
00:49:28.000 --> 00:49:31.360
<v Speaker 6>talking about j Lagway. So Kentucky has a little bit

900
00:49:31.360 --> 00:49:33.719
<v Speaker 6>of film on him and a little bit more inside

901
00:49:33.760 --> 00:49:36.639
<v Speaker 6>than maybe the traditional backup quarterback Cup who comes in

902
00:49:36.639 --> 00:49:38.400
<v Speaker 6>in the middle of a game and just takes you

903
00:49:38.440 --> 00:49:41.440
<v Speaker 6>by surprise. Obviously, he finished the Tennessee game for them

904
00:49:41.519 --> 00:49:43.920
<v Speaker 6>last Saturday as well, but there will be a certain

905
00:49:43.960 --> 00:49:47.119
<v Speaker 6>element of newness to it just because of that element.

906
00:49:47.280 --> 00:49:50.000
<v Speaker 6>And then for Kentucky there's certainly a lot to figure out.

907
00:49:50.039 --> 00:49:52.679
<v Speaker 6>I mean, you talked about the Vanderbilt loss, and there's

908
00:49:52.760 --> 00:49:57.199
<v Speaker 6>no sugarcoating what that loss felt like, looked like, et cetera.

909
00:49:57.800 --> 00:50:00.639
<v Speaker 6>To fans and even to those within the program. Marchdoops

910
00:50:00.679 --> 00:50:03.880
<v Speaker 6>has been incredibly frustrated every time we've heard from him

911
00:50:03.880 --> 00:50:06.880
<v Speaker 6>this week. I mean, you know this, Normally, after a game,

912
00:50:06.880 --> 00:50:09.199
<v Speaker 6>it's one thing, and then he talks again Monday morning

913
00:50:09.239 --> 00:50:11.559
<v Speaker 6>and it's a little looser. He talks again Monday night

914
00:50:11.639 --> 00:50:13.679
<v Speaker 6>on his radio show. He's a little looser, and then

915
00:50:14.119 --> 00:50:15.599
<v Speaker 6>you know, you roll in the game week and by

916
00:50:15.639 --> 00:50:18.000
<v Speaker 6>Thursday we're on to the next right, and this week,

917
00:50:18.039 --> 00:50:21.880
<v Speaker 6>I mean, it just hasn't felt like that. Right after

918
00:50:21.920 --> 00:50:25.679
<v Speaker 6>the game, he was frustrated Monday morning press conference, frustrated

919
00:50:25.679 --> 00:50:28.800
<v Speaker 6>Monday night on the radio show, doubled down being frustrated.

920
00:50:28.880 --> 00:50:32.800
<v Speaker 6>And maybe that's just his frustration with the situation that

921
00:50:32.880 --> 00:50:34.599
<v Speaker 6>this team is in at this point, or maybe it's

922
00:50:34.639 --> 00:50:37.760
<v Speaker 6>frustration that he's been saying these same things and the

923
00:50:37.800 --> 00:50:40.239
<v Speaker 6>team doesn't seem to be getting it. At this point.

924
00:50:40.280 --> 00:50:44.039
<v Speaker 6>He talked so much about discipline and playing clean football

925
00:50:44.079 --> 00:50:47.119
<v Speaker 6>and not feeding yourself, and again that's what happened to

926
00:50:47.199 --> 00:50:50.280
<v Speaker 6>Kentucky against Vandy. So I think that has clearly been

927
00:50:50.320 --> 00:50:52.719
<v Speaker 6>the message this week for this team, and we'll see

928
00:50:52.719 --> 00:50:54.719
<v Speaker 6>how they come out and respond to it this Saturday.

929
00:50:54.960 --> 00:50:57.960
<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm wondering, and they need leadership. They talk

930
00:50:58.000 --> 00:51:01.000
<v Speaker 1>about it, and I'm wondering if in this day and age,

931
00:51:01.079 --> 00:51:04.039
<v Speaker 1>not just Kentucky, but so many players on the move

932
00:51:04.719 --> 00:51:08.079
<v Speaker 1>learning new teammates every year, and some programs, as you know,

933
00:51:08.599 --> 00:51:14.360
<v Speaker 1>are dramatically bigger than others in the transport portal movement era,

934
00:51:15.079 --> 00:51:20.719
<v Speaker 1>but not learning guys as incoming recruits. You know, guys,

935
00:51:20.760 --> 00:51:22.880
<v Speaker 1>I always talk about their that I can tell you

936
00:51:22.880 --> 00:51:26.639
<v Speaker 1>what you have to So many players can go back

937
00:51:26.920 --> 00:51:29.840
<v Speaker 1>and rattle off the names of the guys in their

938
00:51:29.880 --> 00:51:33.840
<v Speaker 1>recruiting class. Right Well, now they're learning new teammates on

939
00:51:33.880 --> 00:51:36.800
<v Speaker 1>the fly, and I wonder what that's like when it

940
00:51:36.840 --> 00:51:40.559
<v Speaker 1>comes to trying to develop leadership and learn guys who

941
00:51:40.599 --> 00:51:41.320
<v Speaker 1>should I follow?

942
00:51:41.400 --> 00:51:43.559
<v Speaker 2>Who is this guy? What's he all about? What are

943
00:51:43.559 --> 00:51:45.840
<v Speaker 2>his values? And is he the kind of guy I

944
00:51:45.840 --> 00:51:47.599
<v Speaker 2>want to hitch my wagon to, you know what I mean?

945
00:51:48.599 --> 00:51:50.519
<v Speaker 6>Oh, I totally agree with that. And I think the

946
00:51:50.559 --> 00:51:53.599
<v Speaker 6>other point of that is is he a guy who's

947
00:51:53.639 --> 00:51:55.159
<v Speaker 6>going to talk? Or do I need to toss?

948
00:51:55.239 --> 00:51:55.360
<v Speaker 2>Right?

949
00:51:55.400 --> 00:51:57.400
<v Speaker 6>Who's in charge of this locker room? Right? And there

950
00:51:57.519 --> 00:52:01.639
<v Speaker 6>is more of a balancing act. Think about certain positions

951
00:52:01.679 --> 00:52:05.679
<v Speaker 6>being leadership or you think about certain ages being the leaders, right,

952
00:52:05.760 --> 00:52:08.159
<v Speaker 6>the seniors on the team or the guys back so

953
00:52:08.199 --> 00:52:11.039
<v Speaker 6>their fifth year, but even now in the portal era,

954
00:52:11.159 --> 00:52:14.320
<v Speaker 6>that is the player who is in his fourth, fifth, sixth,

955
00:52:14.360 --> 00:52:18.480
<v Speaker 6>in Kentucky's case, seventh year on the team. Margustock planned

956
00:52:18.639 --> 00:52:21.360
<v Speaker 6>seven years of college football, but only his second year

957
00:52:21.400 --> 00:52:24.039
<v Speaker 6>in Lexington. And that's true really, I mean across the country.

958
00:52:24.039 --> 00:52:26.320
<v Speaker 6>That's certainly not just the UK. But it is a

959
00:52:26.320 --> 00:52:29.079
<v Speaker 6>new dynamic of guys who are in these quote unquote

960
00:52:29.400 --> 00:52:33.679
<v Speaker 6>traditional positions you think of as leadership positions not necessarily

961
00:52:33.760 --> 00:52:36.599
<v Speaker 6>having the equity built up not just with their coaches

962
00:52:36.920 --> 00:52:39.079
<v Speaker 6>but also with their teammates, with the fan base, etc.

963
00:52:39.400 --> 00:52:42.760
<v Speaker 6>To really have a voice and to feel powerful enough

964
00:52:42.840 --> 00:52:46.199
<v Speaker 6>and justified enough in using it right. You think about

965
00:52:46.239 --> 00:52:48.880
<v Speaker 6>the quarterback, well, Kentucky's quarterback the last couple of years

966
00:52:48.880 --> 00:52:52.159
<v Speaker 6>has been new, and so that's a new way of

967
00:52:52.199 --> 00:52:54.719
<v Speaker 6>stepping into a locker room and trying to command that

968
00:52:54.760 --> 00:52:57.000
<v Speaker 6>attention in that respect, and you have to earn it.

969
00:52:57.440 --> 00:52:59.320
<v Speaker 6>And I think you look back a couple of years ago,

970
00:52:59.320 --> 00:53:02.599
<v Speaker 6>we'll let us talk about that repeatedly, and we heard

971
00:53:02.639 --> 00:53:04.360
<v Speaker 6>a lot about that when he was here, that he

972
00:53:04.360 --> 00:53:08.199
<v Speaker 6>would have individual meetings with individual players to get to

973
00:53:08.199 --> 00:53:11.440
<v Speaker 6>know them one on one and earn their respect. And

974
00:53:11.519 --> 00:53:14.159
<v Speaker 6>you have to do that outside of practice as much

975
00:53:14.159 --> 00:53:16.719
<v Speaker 6>as you have to do it at practice. And it really,

976
00:53:16.840 --> 00:53:21.119
<v Speaker 6>I feel like has to be that intentional. And whether

977
00:53:21.239 --> 00:53:24.119
<v Speaker 6>or not Kentucky's quarterback Simpson have done that, I'm not sure.

978
00:53:24.239 --> 00:53:26.280
<v Speaker 6>They definitely could have. Devin Leary could have done that.

979
00:53:26.360 --> 00:53:28.960
<v Speaker 6>Rob Vandergriff could have done that. But I just remember

980
00:53:29.119 --> 00:53:31.559
<v Speaker 6>hearing so much about it the Will Levish year, the

981
00:53:31.599 --> 00:53:34.239
<v Speaker 6>first his first year, that it really has stayed with

982
00:53:34.320 --> 00:53:37.840
<v Speaker 6>me as something that made a big difference on that

983
00:53:37.960 --> 00:53:40.000
<v Speaker 6>team that when you look at it really did have

984
00:53:40.039 --> 00:53:41.760
<v Speaker 6>a lot of these same sort of components of a

985
00:53:41.760 --> 00:53:44.440
<v Speaker 6>new quarterback a couple of new guys on the offensive line,

986
00:53:44.480 --> 00:53:46.440
<v Speaker 6>you have one No Robinson at wide receiver. You know

987
00:53:46.480 --> 00:53:48.679
<v Speaker 6>he was brand new too, so there were a lot

988
00:53:48.719 --> 00:53:52.000
<v Speaker 6>of similar components, but they're just there. Does seem to

989
00:53:52.039 --> 00:53:54.639
<v Speaker 6>be an issue of figuring out who the leader should

990
00:53:54.679 --> 00:53:57.920
<v Speaker 6>be and who has earned that role within a team

991
00:53:57.960 --> 00:54:00.800
<v Speaker 6>with so many guys, with new players, they learn it.

992
00:54:01.159 --> 00:54:04.559
<v Speaker 1>And earn it with their work ethic, but then they

993
00:54:04.599 --> 00:54:06.639
<v Speaker 1>go out and make play. That's such a big thing.

994
00:54:06.679 --> 00:54:09.599
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I remember talking to players prior to Will

995
00:54:09.679 --> 00:54:12.800
<v Speaker 1>Levis's first season and they were so impressed with his

996
00:54:13.039 --> 00:54:15.800
<v Speaker 1>arm strength and his skills as a quarterback. I know

997
00:54:15.840 --> 00:54:18.159
<v Speaker 1>he has struggled mightily in the NFL, but back then,

998
00:54:18.880 --> 00:54:21.199
<v Speaker 1>but then he goes out and proves it with his

999
00:54:21.320 --> 00:54:25.400
<v Speaker 1>toughness on the field. So, yeah, he walked it and

1000
00:54:25.440 --> 00:54:28.679
<v Speaker 1>he talked it. And for someone to come in and

1001
00:54:28.719 --> 00:54:32.159
<v Speaker 1>do that immediately. The more I see it, Maggie, or

1002
00:54:32.199 --> 00:54:34.519
<v Speaker 1>the more I see each season, that's rare.

1003
00:54:34.639 --> 00:54:36.119
<v Speaker 2>That's hard to do, isn't it.

1004
00:54:36.119 --> 00:54:38.440
<v Speaker 6>It is hard to do, and I think it's worth

1005
00:54:38.480 --> 00:54:41.480
<v Speaker 6>saying that it's hard to do in college, right. These

1006
00:54:41.480 --> 00:54:44.760
<v Speaker 6>guys are not professional athletes. And the more you're around them,

1007
00:54:44.800 --> 00:54:46.960
<v Speaker 6>and I know, obviously you are, I am anybody in

1008
00:54:47.000 --> 00:54:49.800
<v Speaker 6>the media or fans who get some kind of access,

1009
00:54:49.840 --> 00:54:52.039
<v Speaker 6>whether that's even at the catwalk or something like that,

1010
00:54:52.119 --> 00:54:54.880
<v Speaker 6>you realize up close and personal, some of these guys

1011
00:54:54.880 --> 00:54:57.840
<v Speaker 6>are nineteen years old, twenty years old. They look like kids,

1012
00:54:57.880 --> 00:55:00.000
<v Speaker 6>and they are like Peon Walker comes to mind, because

1013
00:55:00.159 --> 00:55:03.559
<v Speaker 6>he is such a huge guy just physically, and he

1014
00:55:03.679 --> 00:55:05.800
<v Speaker 6>plays so big on the football field and he makes

1015
00:55:05.880 --> 00:55:08.400
<v Speaker 6>these big plays and he is going to the NFL

1016
00:55:08.400 --> 00:55:10.000
<v Speaker 6>next year. But you see him in person and he

1017
00:55:10.119 --> 00:55:12.280
<v Speaker 6>just has his little baby face and he's so nice

1018
00:55:12.280 --> 00:55:14.360
<v Speaker 6>and I'll give you a hug, and he's excited to

1019
00:55:14.360 --> 00:55:17.079
<v Speaker 6>see you, and he's just nice. And I just you know,

1020
00:55:17.320 --> 00:55:19.079
<v Speaker 6>there's a lot of guys on this team like that,

1021
00:55:19.320 --> 00:55:23.320
<v Speaker 6>and you have to remember that they're figuring it out too,

1022
00:55:23.480 --> 00:55:25.039
<v Speaker 6>And a lot of that is why I think it

1023
00:55:25.079 --> 00:55:27.639
<v Speaker 6>does all on the coaching staff to get these guys

1024
00:55:27.679 --> 00:55:31.519
<v Speaker 6>in a position, like we talked about earlier, build leaders

1025
00:55:31.559 --> 00:55:34.639
<v Speaker 6>within your program in an intentional way. And if this

1026
00:55:34.800 --> 00:55:36.719
<v Speaker 6>is not a team with a personality to do it

1027
00:55:36.760 --> 00:55:39.000
<v Speaker 6>on their own, a coach does need to step in

1028
00:55:39.039 --> 00:55:42.440
<v Speaker 6>and facilitate that. However that looks for each particular team.

1029
00:55:43.079 --> 00:55:46.000
<v Speaker 1>So how do you think this game plays out Saturday night?

1030
00:55:46.079 --> 00:55:49.599
<v Speaker 1>Down there with the Kentucky would seem like Kentucky's strength

1031
00:55:50.000 --> 00:55:52.440
<v Speaker 1>against one of the biggest or the biggest question mark

1032
00:55:52.480 --> 00:55:55.519
<v Speaker 1>for Florida D line against Florida's quarterback.

1033
00:55:56.800 --> 00:55:59.440
<v Speaker 6>Yes, I think Kentucky's D line should have a very

1034
00:55:59.480 --> 00:56:01.440
<v Speaker 6>good game. I mean they've been very good at stopping

1035
00:56:01.480 --> 00:56:03.800
<v Speaker 6>to run all year. I mean, sea line has been

1036
00:56:03.880 --> 00:56:06.519
<v Speaker 6>obviously the strength of this team, really, I think so.

1037
00:56:06.920 --> 00:56:09.840
<v Speaker 6>I think all the off the question marks are more

1038
00:56:09.960 --> 00:56:13.079
<v Speaker 6>surrounding the offense, and certainly coming off of a Vannerbelt

1039
00:56:13.079 --> 00:56:15.119
<v Speaker 6>game where they only scored on two of their seven

1040
00:56:15.159 --> 00:56:18.320
<v Speaker 6>possessions and made some really big mistakes along the way.

1041
00:56:18.360 --> 00:56:22.960
<v Speaker 6>Penalties included in that. So I think clean football, discipline football.

1042
00:56:23.000 --> 00:56:25.159
<v Speaker 6>Going back to what we said earlier, Mark Fop's message

1043
00:56:25.199 --> 00:56:27.639
<v Speaker 6>for the week, you have to see that you cannot

1044
00:56:27.679 --> 00:56:30.559
<v Speaker 6>see five flags on the offensive line. I think that

1045
00:56:30.800 --> 00:56:34.480
<v Speaker 6>was brutal last week, not just score the number of

1046
00:56:34.639 --> 00:56:36.960
<v Speaker 6>yards we lost, in the momentum you lost, but just

1047
00:56:37.039 --> 00:56:40.639
<v Speaker 6>the morale of that group, of the offense and frankly

1048
00:56:40.679 --> 00:56:43.039
<v Speaker 6>of everybody in Kroger Field. I was there and every

1049
00:56:43.119 --> 00:56:46.280
<v Speaker 6>time a flag, you know, another flag flew out. It's

1050
00:56:46.320 --> 00:56:49.400
<v Speaker 6>like this collective sigh of like, why can't we figure

1051
00:56:49.440 --> 00:56:51.800
<v Speaker 6>this out? Why are we still playing like that? So

1052
00:56:52.199 --> 00:56:56.119
<v Speaker 6>I think seeing clean football and just avoiding those mistakes

1053
00:56:56.199 --> 00:56:59.159
<v Speaker 6>and not beating yourself will be just as important in

1054
00:56:59.159 --> 00:57:02.159
<v Speaker 6>this game as finding a couple more explosive plays. And

1055
00:57:02.280 --> 00:57:04.599
<v Speaker 6>Bush had been talked openly about that this week's saying

1056
00:57:04.599 --> 00:57:08.360
<v Speaker 6>we've only had five explosive plays in the run game

1057
00:57:08.440 --> 00:57:10.920
<v Speaker 6>this year. We have to find more of those. And

1058
00:57:10.960 --> 00:57:12.679
<v Speaker 6>I think just as important you have to find some

1059
00:57:12.760 --> 00:57:14.960
<v Speaker 6>more in the passing game as well. You have some

1060
00:57:15.079 --> 00:57:17.639
<v Speaker 6>dynamic options at wide receiver. They need to play clean

1061
00:57:17.639 --> 00:57:20.440
<v Speaker 6>football too and make catches when they do come their way.

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00:57:20.719 --> 00:57:23.159
<v Speaker 1>It's so weird, Maggie, how they play so much better

1063
00:57:23.199 --> 00:57:24.599
<v Speaker 1>on the road exactly.

1064
00:57:24.639 --> 00:57:27.239
<v Speaker 6>And I think, if anything, maybe that makes BBN feel

1065
00:57:27.280 --> 00:57:29.679
<v Speaker 6>better going into this game, right. I mean, Billy Napier

1066
00:57:29.719 --> 00:57:33.079
<v Speaker 6>has never beaten Mark Shops to this point. It's a

1067
00:57:33.119 --> 00:57:35.519
<v Speaker 6>totally different streak than the one we're used to talking about,

1068
00:57:35.559 --> 00:57:37.679
<v Speaker 6>which we can test you in Florida, right, But the

1069
00:57:37.719 --> 00:57:39.280
<v Speaker 6>guests have been better on the road this year. You

1070
00:57:39.280 --> 00:57:40.960
<v Speaker 6>go back to that all Miss game and they were

1071
00:57:41.000 --> 00:57:43.119
<v Speaker 6>good in that environment. We've had players tell us on

1072
00:57:43.159 --> 00:57:44.840
<v Speaker 6>our show this year they prefer to play on the

1073
00:57:44.920 --> 00:57:47.719
<v Speaker 6>road because it is fewer distractions. You do come in

1074
00:57:47.800 --> 00:57:49.800
<v Speaker 6>feeling like you have a chip on your shoulder. And

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00:57:49.960 --> 00:57:52.719
<v Speaker 6>Mark Shops has always had a program and fully done

1076
00:57:52.760 --> 00:57:55.920
<v Speaker 6>best with a team that has chips on its shoulder

1077
00:57:56.119 --> 00:57:58.800
<v Speaker 6>and feels like they're the underdog and wants to play

1078
00:57:58.840 --> 00:58:01.320
<v Speaker 6>with something to prove and maybe going on the road

1079
00:58:01.360 --> 00:58:03.320
<v Speaker 6>helps give them a little bit of that edge more

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00:58:03.360 --> 00:58:05.440
<v Speaker 6>so than at home. But at the same time, the

1081
00:58:05.519 --> 00:58:08.000
<v Speaker 6>Cats really do also have to figure out how to

1082
00:58:08.000 --> 00:58:10.039
<v Speaker 6>play a Kroger field when they have a fan base

1083
00:58:10.480 --> 00:58:12.559
<v Speaker 6>likes the Big Blue Nation. Packing it for a night

1084
00:58:12.639 --> 00:58:15.360
<v Speaker 6>game against Vanderbilts a blackout was awesome. I mean not

1085
00:58:15.440 --> 00:58:17.440
<v Speaker 6>the only time this year the fans have really showed

1086
00:58:17.480 --> 00:58:20.159
<v Speaker 6>up and showed out for the team to leave disappointed.

1087
00:58:20.239 --> 00:58:22.960
<v Speaker 6>And so obviously I'll win this weekend. It's crucial for

1088
00:58:23.000 --> 00:58:25.840
<v Speaker 6>full eligibility, it hopes for the season as a whole,

1089
00:58:25.840 --> 00:58:28.519
<v Speaker 6>but just as important it's going to be coming back

1090
00:58:28.719 --> 00:58:30.199
<v Speaker 6>against Auburn the following week.

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<v Speaker 2>Follow her on Twitter, Maggie Davis TV.

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you, ma'am, Thank you so much we soon.

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<v Speaker 1>Gainesville radio hosts Steve Vetter peak Florida Gator Athletics. Steve

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00:58:41.760 --> 00:58:45.559
<v Speaker 1>Russell's sports director w r UF. Steve, you've been covering

1095
00:58:45.599 --> 00:58:47.199
<v Speaker 1>the Gators for how long now.

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00:58:49.760 --> 00:58:52.719
<v Speaker 5>Since nineteen seventy six.

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00:58:53.079 --> 00:58:56.679
<v Speaker 1>Wow, we go back to virtually the same time covering

1098
00:58:56.719 --> 00:59:00.719
<v Speaker 1>the SEC. You have seen the highs and the Florida

1099
00:59:00.760 --> 00:59:02.480
<v Speaker 1>football more highs than lows.

1100
00:59:02.519 --> 00:59:05.000
<v Speaker 2>But what's it like right now? I know the Natives

1101
00:59:05.039 --> 00:59:05.880
<v Speaker 2>are restless.

1102
00:59:06.760 --> 00:59:10.599
<v Speaker 5>Natives are really restless. Take and I think it is

1103
00:59:10.719 --> 00:59:14.320
<v Speaker 5>just directed at Billy Napier because he's the coach now.

1104
00:59:14.360 --> 00:59:17.880
<v Speaker 5>But I personally, I think this is an accumulation of

1105
00:59:17.960 --> 00:59:21.719
<v Speaker 5>frustration over the last you know, fifteen years or so.

1106
00:59:21.719 --> 00:59:23.559
<v Speaker 5>But if you look at the history of Florida football,

1107
00:59:23.880 --> 00:59:27.639
<v Speaker 5>they've really only had three pockets of success. The eighty

1108
00:59:27.679 --> 00:59:30.519
<v Speaker 5>four team, which is being honored in this game, you know,

1109
00:59:30.599 --> 00:59:33.199
<v Speaker 5>won the SEC on the field, and then this Burrier

1110
00:59:33.280 --> 00:59:36.039
<v Speaker 5>era and the Urban Meyer era, and there have been certainly,

1111
00:59:36.159 --> 00:59:40.000
<v Speaker 5>you know, decent teams, but those were the great days

1112
00:59:40.000 --> 00:59:42.639
<v Speaker 5>of Gator football. And it's been a while, frankly since

1113
00:59:42.639 --> 00:59:45.079
<v Speaker 5>Florida's been irrelevant, and that has not made the fan

1114
00:59:45.159 --> 00:59:46.360
<v Speaker 5>base happy at all.

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00:59:46.719 --> 00:59:49.840
<v Speaker 1>That always amazed me, Steven, probably you as well, that

1116
00:59:49.920 --> 00:59:52.840
<v Speaker 1>with all the talent in the state of Florida, and

1117
00:59:52.880 --> 00:59:55.639
<v Speaker 1>you've had some really good teams, that Florida has not

1118
00:59:55.760 --> 00:59:58.800
<v Speaker 1>been more dominant. But then again, easier said than done

1119
00:59:58.840 --> 01:00:00.159
<v Speaker 1>in the SEC, right.

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<v Speaker 5>It is because I think, and you know this, I

1121
01:00:03.360 --> 01:00:06.719
<v Speaker 5>mean that the coaching in the SEC is better. You know,

1122
01:00:06.800 --> 01:00:09.239
<v Speaker 5>Florida is very late to the party on getting it

1123
01:00:09.400 --> 01:00:12.599
<v Speaker 5>getting facilities, so a lot of other schools passed more

1124
01:00:12.639 --> 01:00:16.079
<v Speaker 5>to buy and got better athletes and better recruits. Because

1125
01:00:16.119 --> 01:00:20.199
<v Speaker 5>of that, and because Florida wasn't winning, other schools were.

1126
01:00:20.599 --> 01:00:22.480
<v Speaker 5>You know, some kids decided to go to a program

1127
01:00:22.519 --> 01:00:25.079
<v Speaker 5>that was winning as opposed to what Florida was doing.

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01:00:25.119 --> 01:00:27.119
<v Speaker 5>So you throw that all into the to the mix,

1129
01:00:27.639 --> 01:00:29.480
<v Speaker 5>and that's kind of where you have Florida, you know

1130
01:00:29.480 --> 01:00:30.440
<v Speaker 5>where it is right now.

1131
01:00:31.000 --> 01:00:35.239
<v Speaker 1>And a tough break with your quarterback going down, Graham Mertz, Uh,

1132
01:00:36.519 --> 01:00:39.079
<v Speaker 1>I see according to his tweet, he's done.

1133
01:00:39.760 --> 01:00:39.960
<v Speaker 5>Uh.

1134
01:00:40.159 --> 01:00:42.280
<v Speaker 1>So you've got a freshman quarterback who's going to have

1135
01:00:42.320 --> 01:00:43.280
<v Speaker 1>to handle a load.

1136
01:00:43.159 --> 01:00:47.760
<v Speaker 5>Right absolutely, Uh, you know, Graham Mertz. Let me just say,

1137
01:00:47.800 --> 01:00:49.880
<v Speaker 5>and covering this team for as long as I have

1138
01:00:50.840 --> 01:00:54.000
<v Speaker 5>there has not been a guy who's shown more class,

1139
01:00:54.880 --> 01:00:59.360
<v Speaker 5>uh more loyalty to his team. Just a terrific kid.

1140
01:00:59.519 --> 01:01:02.719
<v Speaker 5>And and here be missed on the football field, but

1141
01:01:02.760 --> 01:01:04.960
<v Speaker 5>he'll still be part of what's going on. But yeah,

1142
01:01:05.000 --> 01:01:08.719
<v Speaker 5>now j Lagway with five star recruit, you know all

1143
01:01:08.800 --> 01:01:12.760
<v Speaker 5>of that, and he has tremendous potential. I think he

1144
01:01:12.800 --> 01:01:15.440
<v Speaker 5>has a chance to be a really good player here

1145
01:01:15.559 --> 01:01:17.920
<v Speaker 5>if he's back stays here. You never know these days.

1146
01:01:18.360 --> 01:01:21.159
<v Speaker 5>But he is a freshman and certainly you know, teams

1147
01:01:21.159 --> 01:01:23.760
<v Speaker 5>have tried to blitz him a little bit to rattle him.

1148
01:01:24.199 --> 01:01:27.000
<v Speaker 5>And Kentucky's really good on defense, so I'm sure Marks

1149
01:01:27.039 --> 01:01:29.719
<v Speaker 5>Dukes will has some things in store for the young quarterback.

1150
01:01:30.880 --> 01:01:33.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I remember Chris Leak as a youngster. He got

1151
01:01:33.840 --> 01:01:37.199
<v Speaker 1>kind of thrown into the fire and acquitted himself fairly well.

1152
01:01:37.239 --> 01:01:39.760
<v Speaker 1>But I do remember Kentucky blitz the daylights out of

1153
01:01:39.880 --> 01:01:42.800
<v Speaker 1>him and Florida still won the game. But you can

1154
01:01:42.840 --> 01:01:45.880
<v Speaker 1>throw a lot at a freshman quarterback, can't you.

1155
01:01:45.880 --> 01:01:48.599
<v Speaker 5>You sure can't. Now, I will say this, If Florida

1156
01:01:48.679 --> 01:01:53.320
<v Speaker 5>has a strength offensively, it's in the receiving court. I

1157
01:01:53.320 --> 01:01:59.159
<v Speaker 5>think you know, Shamir dk Wilson, Myzelle that receiving group

1158
01:01:59.239 --> 01:02:02.679
<v Speaker 5>is pretty darn good. The issue has been protection for

1159
01:02:02.760 --> 01:02:05.800
<v Speaker 5>the quarterback. And you know, even with Graham Merch, the

1160
01:02:05.840 --> 01:02:09.159
<v Speaker 5>veteran guy that he is, you know he had protection

1161
01:02:09.280 --> 01:02:13.280
<v Speaker 5>issues from the offensive line. Lagway has a dynamic arm.

1162
01:02:13.920 --> 01:02:16.320
<v Speaker 5>I think he's a really good player for a young player.

1163
01:02:16.360 --> 01:02:17.599
<v Speaker 5>But that's going to be the key to the game.

1164
01:02:17.639 --> 01:02:21.519
<v Speaker 5>I think is going to be can Florida protect run

1165
01:02:21.599 --> 01:02:24.239
<v Speaker 5>the football and help Blagway out. You get him in

1166
01:02:24.360 --> 01:02:27.199
<v Speaker 5>third and long. You know, second and long. That's not

1167
01:02:27.239 --> 01:02:30.119
<v Speaker 5>good for a veteran quarterback, let alone for a young one.

1168
01:02:30.400 --> 01:02:33.920
<v Speaker 1>We're talking to Steve Russell WRUF Radio down in Gainesville.

1169
01:02:34.000 --> 01:02:38.119
<v Speaker 1>Lagway sixty five completion rate, more than seven hundred and

1170
01:02:38.159 --> 01:02:42.760
<v Speaker 1>fifty yards, five tds, four picks. How is he when

1171
01:02:42.800 --> 01:02:43.920
<v Speaker 1>the pocket breaks down?

1172
01:02:45.639 --> 01:02:48.000
<v Speaker 5>I think that's an area he needs to improve in.

1173
01:02:48.079 --> 01:02:51.719
<v Speaker 5>I mean, certainly he's got scrambled ability. He can he's

1174
01:02:51.760 --> 01:02:55.679
<v Speaker 5>pretty quick on his feet, but look, veteran quarterbacks can

1175
01:02:55.719 --> 01:02:59.079
<v Speaker 5>scramble and continue to look down the field. He's done

1176
01:02:59.159 --> 01:03:01.679
<v Speaker 5>that on a case and when he's done, he throws

1177
01:03:01.719 --> 01:03:04.880
<v Speaker 5>a beautiful ball. But that's what he's gonna have to

1178
01:03:04.920 --> 01:03:08.480
<v Speaker 5>do more consistently. Is when the pocket breaks down, keep

1179
01:03:08.519 --> 01:03:11.119
<v Speaker 5>his eyes downfield and try to make something happen in

1180
01:03:11.119 --> 01:03:13.599
<v Speaker 5>the throw game. He's better than he was, but still

1181
01:03:13.639 --> 01:03:14.079
<v Speaker 5>work to do.

1182
01:03:14.920 --> 01:03:18.000
<v Speaker 1>I know, Billy Napier is catching a lot of fire,

1183
01:03:18.360 --> 01:03:21.280
<v Speaker 1>the hot seat, all that stuff he was brought in.

1184
01:03:21.719 --> 01:03:23.800
<v Speaker 1>I was quite frankly, I don't know about you're surprised

1185
01:03:23.840 --> 01:03:25.519
<v Speaker 1>that Dan Mullen didn't get it done.

1186
01:03:25.639 --> 01:03:26.559
<v Speaker 2>I know that goes back.

1187
01:03:26.519 --> 01:03:30.400
<v Speaker 1>To recruiting, but Napier had been known as a strong

1188
01:03:30.480 --> 01:03:32.360
<v Speaker 1>recruiter at Louisiana.

1189
01:03:33.159 --> 01:03:35.760
<v Speaker 2>How surprised are you, Steve.

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01:03:35.440 --> 01:03:38.199
<v Speaker 1>That this hasn't had it hasn't really worked yet. Things

1191
01:03:38.239 --> 01:03:39.800
<v Speaker 1>aren't happening yet for Napier.

1192
01:03:41.679 --> 01:03:45.679
<v Speaker 5>Oh wow, that's that's tough. When when Napier was hired,

1193
01:03:46.280 --> 01:03:50.280
<v Speaker 5>obviously wasn't a household name, and that got some Gator

1194
01:03:50.360 --> 01:03:53.880
<v Speaker 5>fans off on the long foot. At least with Dan Mullen,

1195
01:03:54.400 --> 01:03:57.400
<v Speaker 5>you knew who he was. He'd coached here with Urban,

1196
01:03:57.679 --> 01:04:00.880
<v Speaker 5>he's been a head coach in the league and overall,

1197
01:04:00.960 --> 01:04:03.239
<v Speaker 5>except for the collapse at the end, if you look

1198
01:04:03.239 --> 01:04:05.159
<v Speaker 5>at his record, you think, well, why was he not

1199
01:04:05.519 --> 01:04:09.800
<v Speaker 5>still coaching? Because his record overall wasn't bad. But Napier's

1200
01:04:09.840 --> 01:04:12.599
<v Speaker 5>been a little bit snake bit, but they've had some

1201
01:04:12.719 --> 01:04:15.199
<v Speaker 5>things on the field, you know, twelve in on the field,

1202
01:04:15.679 --> 01:04:18.960
<v Speaker 5>you know, penalties like that that have just killed this team.

1203
01:04:19.119 --> 01:04:22.559
<v Speaker 5>The impressive thing for me, I will say, despite the

1204
01:04:22.639 --> 01:04:25.960
<v Speaker 5>losses and a sub five hundred record, overall, those kids

1205
01:04:26.000 --> 01:04:28.639
<v Speaker 5>played hard last week. They had kinda see on the ropes.

1206
01:04:29.199 --> 01:04:32.719
<v Speaker 5>Arguably should have won that game, Dick. So while that's

1207
01:04:32.760 --> 01:04:36.599
<v Speaker 5>impressive and that's good, it's still a loss, and that's

1208
01:04:36.639 --> 01:04:37.480
<v Speaker 5>got to turn around.

1209
01:04:37.760 --> 01:04:39.840
<v Speaker 1>Shut them out in the first half. Shut out a

1210
01:04:39.880 --> 01:04:42.239
<v Speaker 1>Tennessee team in a first half. How'd that happen?

1211
01:04:43.599 --> 01:04:45.639
<v Speaker 5>I don't think Tennessee is very good in the throw game.

1212
01:04:46.199 --> 01:04:50.039
<v Speaker 5>I think their quarterback is very overrated. From what I

1213
01:04:50.079 --> 01:04:52.679
<v Speaker 5>mean the first couple of games they played against nobody,

1214
01:04:52.920 --> 01:04:57.320
<v Speaker 5>he was great, but from what I saw, overthrew receivers,

1215
01:04:57.400 --> 01:05:00.760
<v Speaker 5>kind of zeroed in on one receiver and was not

1216
01:05:00.960 --> 01:05:03.840
<v Speaker 5>impressive at all. And Tennessee was just so so running

1217
01:05:03.920 --> 01:05:06.320
<v Speaker 5>the football, and that is an area, Dick. I think

1218
01:05:06.360 --> 01:05:11.239
<v Speaker 5>Florida's gotten better at They were frocious defensively. I think

1219
01:05:11.320 --> 01:05:14.239
<v Speaker 5>now they're a better defensive football game than what they

1220
01:05:14.239 --> 01:05:15.079
<v Speaker 5>were at the beginning.

1221
01:05:14.800 --> 01:05:16.760
<v Speaker 2>Of the year. What is the strength of their defense.

1222
01:05:18.440 --> 01:05:21.960
<v Speaker 5>I really liked their back end a lot. I think

1223
01:05:22.000 --> 01:05:24.880
<v Speaker 5>they're very athletic there. They've had some injuries there though,

1224
01:05:24.920 --> 01:05:27.199
<v Speaker 5>and that's what's kind of hurt them. They've not had

1225
01:05:27.239 --> 01:05:31.440
<v Speaker 5>their full compliment of guys playing corner and safety, and

1226
01:05:31.639 --> 01:05:36.199
<v Speaker 5>on occasion they can get pressure on the quarterback. But overall,

1227
01:05:36.280 --> 01:05:39.480
<v Speaker 5>I just think from a scheme perspective, knowing where to

1228
01:05:39.559 --> 01:05:42.360
<v Speaker 5>line up, knowing where to go defense is a lot

1229
01:05:42.400 --> 01:05:43.199
<v Speaker 5>better than what it was.

1230
01:05:44.360 --> 01:05:46.559
<v Speaker 1>I was on your show Tuesday morning. What kind of

1231
01:05:47.039 --> 01:05:49.280
<v Speaker 1>research have you done, What do you know about Kentucky

1232
01:05:49.400 --> 01:05:52.199
<v Speaker 1>and how do you see this matchup materializing?

1233
01:05:53.480 --> 01:05:57.320
<v Speaker 5>Well, I know this I witnessed last year and I

1234
01:05:57.440 --> 01:06:02.400
<v Speaker 5>know what a thumping Florida took on the ground with Kentucky.

1235
01:06:02.400 --> 01:06:05.800
<v Speaker 5>I mean when if you'd have told me that Kentucky

1236
01:06:05.840 --> 01:06:08.239
<v Speaker 5>throw it for what sixty nine yards or seventy yards

1237
01:06:08.239 --> 01:06:10.880
<v Speaker 5>and you win the fourth ball game, I would have

1238
01:06:10.920 --> 01:06:13.440
<v Speaker 5>taken that beck to the house. Well guess what happened.

1239
01:06:13.599 --> 01:06:17.519
<v Speaker 5>Kentucky just ran all over Florida. So I think the

1240
01:06:17.599 --> 01:06:19.760
<v Speaker 5>key of this game for Florida is going to be

1241
01:06:19.800 --> 01:06:25.239
<v Speaker 5>stopping Kentucky's run. Make your quarterback beat Florida in the

1242
01:06:25.280 --> 01:06:28.239
<v Speaker 5>throw game, and then hopefully you do enough on offense

1243
01:06:28.480 --> 01:06:29.840
<v Speaker 5>to go up against what I think is a very

1244
01:06:29.840 --> 01:06:33.239
<v Speaker 5>good Kentucky defense. I don't see this being a forty

1245
01:06:33.280 --> 01:06:35.880
<v Speaker 5>to thirty five kind of game. I see this being

1246
01:06:35.920 --> 01:06:38.320
<v Speaker 5>the game in the twenties, you know, maybe twenty eight

1247
01:06:38.400 --> 01:06:41.280
<v Speaker 5>to twenty or something like that, and you hope at

1248
01:06:41.320 --> 01:06:43.679
<v Speaker 5>home the crowd gives you an advantage. But I think

1249
01:06:43.679 --> 01:06:46.280
<v Speaker 5>this is going to be a trenches game, and hopefully

1250
01:06:46.280 --> 01:06:49.239
<v Speaker 5>the team that doesn't commit the most turnovers wins the game.

1251
01:06:49.440 --> 01:06:52.920
<v Speaker 1>Such a disappointing loss to Tennessee, you get it into overtime,

1252
01:06:53.760 --> 01:06:58.199
<v Speaker 1>but you lose it. Any idea of the emotional state

1253
01:06:58.599 --> 01:07:01.880
<v Speaker 1>of the Gators right now, I will.

1254
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<v Speaker 5>Say this is to their credit. The players that were

1255
01:07:04.840 --> 01:07:09.760
<v Speaker 5>made available Bick for media day expressed just that how

1256
01:07:09.880 --> 01:07:14.519
<v Speaker 5>difficult a loss this was, because they felt they should

1257
01:07:14.599 --> 01:07:17.320
<v Speaker 5>have won the game. Not just you know, hung in

1258
01:07:17.400 --> 01:07:20.440
<v Speaker 5>the game, but should have won the game. So I

1259
01:07:20.480 --> 01:07:21.840
<v Speaker 5>think that's going to be a big key for this

1260
01:07:21.920 --> 01:07:25.800
<v Speaker 5>game too. You would hope young guys forget this and

1261
01:07:25.880 --> 01:07:29.239
<v Speaker 5>bounce back. It's homecoming, you know all of that. But

1262
01:07:29.280 --> 01:07:33.159
<v Speaker 5>there's no question that lost stung. I think this football

1263
01:07:33.159 --> 01:07:35.800
<v Speaker 5>team felt it was better than Tennessee was on that

1264
01:07:35.920 --> 01:07:37.280
<v Speaker 5>day and should have won the game.

1265
01:07:37.440 --> 01:07:39.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, well it appears that way.

1266
01:07:40.239 --> 01:07:43.280
<v Speaker 1>And it's interesting Kentucky just lost on homecoming and our

1267
01:07:43.440 --> 01:07:47.360
<v Speaker 1>color analyst Jeff pcorol I played at Kentucky back in

1268
01:07:47.360 --> 01:07:50.280
<v Speaker 1>the eighties under Jerry Claybourn and Frank Kersey, and.

1269
01:07:50.480 --> 01:07:52.519
<v Speaker 2>He told us, he said, you know, I didn't really care.

1270
01:07:52.440 --> 01:07:56.480
<v Speaker 1>For homecoming because there were so many distractions. Coaches like

1271
01:07:56.559 --> 01:07:59.599
<v Speaker 1>to talk about distractions, but that's a reality when it's

1272
01:07:59.639 --> 01:08:01.639
<v Speaker 1>home come, isn't it.

1273
01:08:01.639 --> 01:08:04.280
<v Speaker 5>It is? And I think it's how you embrace that, Dick.

1274
01:08:04.360 --> 01:08:05.760
<v Speaker 5>I mean you you could look at it as a

1275
01:08:05.960 --> 01:08:09.559
<v Speaker 5>as a distraction or hey, you know what our alumni

1276
01:08:09.559 --> 01:08:12.039
<v Speaker 5>are coming back. We're going to in this case onto

1277
01:08:12.079 --> 01:08:14.920
<v Speaker 5>the eighty four team which won the SEC on the field.

1278
01:08:15.960 --> 01:08:18.399
<v Speaker 5>I think it's all how you approach it. And yeah,

1279
01:08:18.560 --> 01:08:20.960
<v Speaker 5>you got Gator Grau and the parade and all of that,

1280
01:08:21.119 --> 01:08:24.479
<v Speaker 5>but it should not take away by that time, you know,

1281
01:08:24.520 --> 01:08:27.520
<v Speaker 5>on a Friday, your game plans in what you're going

1282
01:08:27.600 --> 01:08:31.359
<v Speaker 5>to do is already there. I've never been much about,

1283
01:08:31.600 --> 01:08:33.920
<v Speaker 5>you know, that being a distraction because it should not

1284
01:08:34.039 --> 01:08:35.479
<v Speaker 5>be your game plan should be in place.

1285
01:08:35.560 --> 01:08:39.319
<v Speaker 1>By that well, Florida goes into Nayland Stadium nearly pulls

1286
01:08:39.319 --> 01:08:42.279
<v Speaker 1>out a win coming home in a place where obviously

1287
01:08:42.319 --> 01:08:47.000
<v Speaker 1>I've tread the sidelines. Therefore, many years I've been rained on.

1288
01:08:47.359 --> 01:08:50.760
<v Speaker 1>I've an experienced brutal heat, some perfect evenings.

1289
01:08:50.760 --> 01:08:52.159
<v Speaker 2>What are we looking at Saturday?

1290
01:08:54.000 --> 01:08:57.079
<v Speaker 5>Low scoring game? I think, and I think the team

1291
01:08:57.119 --> 01:09:01.880
<v Speaker 5>that commits the fewest turnovers wins the game. And for Florida,

1292
01:09:02.159 --> 01:09:05.319
<v Speaker 5>you know, how does DJ Lagway do if Florida gets

1293
01:09:05.359 --> 01:09:09.840
<v Speaker 5>a run game to support him? That obviously makes it easier.

1294
01:09:09.920 --> 01:09:12.000
<v Speaker 5>You don't want to be, as I said earlier, third

1295
01:09:12.039 --> 01:09:15.880
<v Speaker 5>and seven, second and ten, that plays in the Kentucky's

1296
01:09:15.880 --> 01:09:19.359
<v Speaker 5>hands because Kentucky is good on defense. So I think

1297
01:09:19.399 --> 01:09:21.960
<v Speaker 5>the team that runs the ball better in this game,

1298
01:09:22.279 --> 01:09:24.760
<v Speaker 5>commits a fewer turnovers, has a better chance to win.

1299
01:09:25.359 --> 01:09:28.199
<v Speaker 1>And finally, is it good rain or is it going

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01:09:28.239 --> 01:09:31.359
<v Speaker 1>to be a pleasant evening? In terms of weather in Florida?

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01:09:32.520 --> 01:09:36.039
<v Speaker 5>Right now, it's supposed to be gorgeous with all the

1302
01:09:36.399 --> 01:09:41.720
<v Speaker 5>terrible weather we've had come through here. Tomorrow the highs

1303
01:09:41.720 --> 01:09:43.880
<v Speaker 5>are in the seventies and the lows of the forties.

1304
01:09:43.880 --> 01:09:44.399
<v Speaker 2>Wow.

1305
01:09:44.479 --> 01:09:48.520
<v Speaker 5>So yeah, so this weekend looks to be pretty nice,

1306
01:09:48.560 --> 01:09:53.000
<v Speaker 5>pretty kind of spring like weather here in Gainesville.

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01:09:53.359 --> 01:09:55.800
<v Speaker 1>Did you and yours make it through the terrible weather? Okay,

1308
01:09:55.800 --> 01:09:57.640
<v Speaker 1>I know you're not there on the coast.

1309
01:09:57.319 --> 01:09:57.399
<v Speaker 2>But.

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01:09:59.199 --> 01:10:02.520
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, thank you for asking. Like I said, have been

1311
01:10:02.560 --> 01:10:06.680
<v Speaker 5>in Gainesville since nineteen seventy three, and I got to

1312
01:10:06.720 --> 01:10:10.560
<v Speaker 5>tell you, the first storm that came through here created

1313
01:10:10.560 --> 01:10:13.920
<v Speaker 5>more damage than I've ever seen in our area. You know,

1314
01:10:14.000 --> 01:10:19.199
<v Speaker 5>being inland here, we're not as prone to getting damage

1315
01:10:19.199 --> 01:10:20.840
<v Speaker 5>because we're none on the coast and by the water.

1316
01:10:21.439 --> 01:10:24.760
<v Speaker 5>But it was pretty bad. We got lucky the second time,

1317
01:10:25.079 --> 01:10:27.960
<v Speaker 5>but just to see, you know, when you see piles

1318
01:10:28.000 --> 01:10:31.079
<v Speaker 5>of debris still out in front of my house after

1319
01:10:31.159 --> 01:10:35.960
<v Speaker 5>all this time, it heals into comparison with what happened

1320
01:10:36.319 --> 01:10:38.359
<v Speaker 5>in other places here in the state, in the southeast.

1321
01:10:38.399 --> 01:10:41.279
<v Speaker 5>So it's just devastating when you see that.

1322
01:10:42.239 --> 01:10:44.000
<v Speaker 1>By the way, did I see in your bio you're

1323
01:10:44.000 --> 01:10:46.039
<v Speaker 1>a you're a New york Er. You were a New

1324
01:10:46.079 --> 01:10:47.600
<v Speaker 1>York kid who came down to Florida.

1325
01:10:48.800 --> 01:10:52.279
<v Speaker 5>Yeah. The real quick story, my high school baseball coach

1326
01:10:52.399 --> 01:10:56.119
<v Speaker 5>graduated from here and I was a baseball player, and

1327
01:10:56.159 --> 01:11:00.279
<v Speaker 5>he raved about the place, so I I was going

1328
01:11:00.359 --> 01:11:03.279
<v Speaker 5>to walk on play baseball here, and then I was

1329
01:11:03.319 --> 01:11:06.520
<v Speaker 5>a pitcher and then hurt my arm, so I couldn't

1330
01:11:06.520 --> 01:11:09.119
<v Speaker 5>do that anymore. But I always knew I wanted to

1331
01:11:09.119 --> 01:11:11.640
<v Speaker 5>go into journalism or some kind of you know, sports journalism,

1332
01:11:11.720 --> 01:11:15.399
<v Speaker 5>so stuck it out. And it's been really good for me.

1333
01:11:15.560 --> 01:11:17.640
<v Speaker 2>I was going to say, worked out pretty well, didn't it.

1334
01:11:18.359 --> 01:11:21.960
<v Speaker 5>Sure I am a lucky you know, if you'd told

1335
01:11:21.960 --> 01:11:23.680
<v Speaker 5>me a kid from a one high school town in

1336
01:11:23.720 --> 01:11:25.880
<v Speaker 5>New York would be able to do what I've done

1337
01:11:25.880 --> 01:11:27.680
<v Speaker 5>and talk to the people I've talked to and seen

1338
01:11:27.720 --> 01:11:31.119
<v Speaker 5>what I've seen, I would never have believed that at sixteen,

1339
01:11:31.199 --> 01:11:33.439
<v Speaker 5>seventeen years old. So yeah, it's been great for me.

1340
01:11:33.520 --> 01:11:37.520
<v Speaker 1>Dick Well, you can follow Steve on Twitter or x

1341
01:11:37.600 --> 01:11:40.720
<v Speaker 1>if you like, it's Steve Russell eight p fifty and

1342
01:11:41.520 --> 01:11:44.600
<v Speaker 1>tune him in at WRUF Radio and gamesvill Steve, thank

1343
01:11:44.600 --> 01:11:45.039
<v Speaker 1>you so much.

1344
01:11:45.039 --> 01:11:45.840
<v Speaker 2>See you Saturday.

1345
01:11:46.560 --> 01:11:48.479
<v Speaker 5>You got to appreciate you save journey here.

1346
01:11:49.039 --> 01:11:50.880
<v Speaker 1>When we come back, we will wrap up with a

1347
01:11:50.920 --> 01:11:54.119
<v Speaker 1>look back at a big Kentucky road win. That's next

1348
01:11:54.239 --> 01:11:57.199
<v Speaker 1>on the Big Blue Sider six thirty WLAP.

1349
01:12:03.079 --> 01:12:03.600
<v Speaker 2>Welcome Back.

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01:12:03.600 --> 01:12:05.840
<v Speaker 1>Whented to wrap this up with a couple of looks

1351
01:12:05.880 --> 01:12:09.119
<v Speaker 1>back at UK football. This day in UK football history,

1352
01:12:09.159 --> 01:12:12.279
<v Speaker 1>of course, was the day that in nineteen ninety eight

1353
01:12:12.399 --> 01:12:15.800
<v Speaker 1>Kentucky went down to Baton Rouge and beat LSU on

1354
01:12:15.920 --> 01:12:19.279
<v Speaker 1>a seth Hanson thirty three yard field goal. You might

1355
01:12:19.319 --> 01:12:22.199
<v Speaker 1>recall that Kentucky had a big lead, two touchdown lead

1356
01:12:22.600 --> 01:12:23.960
<v Speaker 1>going into the fourth quarter.

1357
01:12:24.319 --> 01:12:25.920
<v Speaker 2>It was up thirty six twenty two.

1358
01:12:26.520 --> 01:12:29.640
<v Speaker 1>LSU tied the game with about five and a half

1359
01:12:29.680 --> 01:12:32.600
<v Speaker 1>to go and then the team swapped punts. Kentucky gets

1360
01:12:32.640 --> 01:12:35.840
<v Speaker 1>it back with inside I think two minutes or maybe

1361
01:12:35.880 --> 01:12:39.079
<v Speaker 1>just a little more than a minute, and first down

1362
01:12:39.159 --> 01:12:41.479
<v Speaker 1>runs it into the line. So we're all thinking, okay,

1363
01:12:41.560 --> 01:12:46.439
<v Speaker 1>how mummy's going to play for overtime and then next

1364
01:12:46.479 --> 01:12:48.760
<v Speaker 1>thing you know, it's an end around with Quentin McCord,

1365
01:12:49.560 --> 01:12:53.520
<v Speaker 1>who was incredibly fast but often injured, made it to

1366
01:12:53.560 --> 01:12:59.199
<v Speaker 1>the NFL, just couldn't stay healthy, and on this particular

1367
01:12:59.279 --> 01:13:04.079
<v Speaker 1>night it was plenty healthy and moved Kentucky into position

1368
01:13:05.359 --> 01:13:09.920
<v Speaker 1>for a field goal. Hansen nailed it and Kentucky goes

1369
01:13:09.960 --> 01:13:14.319
<v Speaker 1>on that year to the outback ball behind Tim Couch.

1370
01:13:15.319 --> 01:13:19.920
<v Speaker 1>So that was such a great memory that when you

1371
01:13:19.960 --> 01:13:23.000
<v Speaker 1>think about going into death Valley not a great LSU team,

1372
01:13:23.479 --> 01:13:26.119
<v Speaker 1>but man, that was a great game. I mean LSU

1373
01:13:26.359 --> 01:13:30.680
<v Speaker 1>was down at the half sixteen to thirteen. Kentucky poured

1374
01:13:30.680 --> 01:13:32.760
<v Speaker 1>it on in the third quarter, as I said, but

1375
01:13:32.800 --> 01:13:37.520
<v Speaker 1>then LSU comes all the way back before Kentucky goes

1376
01:13:37.800 --> 01:13:41.720
<v Speaker 1>fifty eight yards in a minute fifty seven for that

1377
01:13:41.760 --> 01:13:44.720
<v Speaker 1>field goal by Seth Hanson. I want to take you

1378
01:13:44.760 --> 01:13:49.239
<v Speaker 1>back as well, six years ago to Gainesville when Kentucky

1379
01:13:49.279 --> 01:13:53.159
<v Speaker 1>snapped the streak. And that's what was crazy about this

1380
01:13:53.239 --> 01:13:57.800
<v Speaker 1>thirty one game, losing skid and it ended in Gainesville,

1381
01:13:57.880 --> 01:13:59.880
<v Speaker 1>and it should have ended two years prior.

1382
01:14:00.079 --> 01:14:02.119
<v Speaker 2>Maybe it was four years but I don't remember, but

1383
01:14:02.119 --> 01:14:03.359
<v Speaker 2>it was one of the prior trips.

1384
01:14:03.520 --> 01:14:06.159
<v Speaker 1>You might recall that Florida got away with a play

1385
01:14:06.159 --> 01:14:08.960
<v Speaker 1>it shouldn't have when the play clock expired.

1386
01:14:09.279 --> 01:14:10.600
<v Speaker 2>But at any rate, Terry.

1387
01:14:10.399 --> 01:14:14.439
<v Speaker 1>Wilson, Benny Snell, they go down there and really this

1388
01:14:14.680 --> 01:14:17.800
<v Speaker 1>was the first touchdown, believe it or not, touchdown passed

1389
01:14:17.840 --> 01:14:19.600
<v Speaker 1>to a former walk.

1390
01:14:19.359 --> 01:14:22.960
<v Speaker 7>On four man rush as Wilson sets to throw, scrambles

1391
01:14:23.000 --> 01:14:25.960
<v Speaker 7>off to his right looking down field, throwing down field

1392
01:14:26.119 --> 01:14:28.119
<v Speaker 7>touchdown Kentucky.

1393
01:14:28.960 --> 01:14:34.439
<v Speaker 1>David Booby A how cool was that? And working the sidelines.

1394
01:14:34.479 --> 01:14:36.840
<v Speaker 1>I was ahead of the football. I'm either ahead or

1395
01:14:36.880 --> 01:14:39.239
<v Speaker 1>I stayed behind it to get a look at what

1396
01:14:39.279 --> 01:14:41.560
<v Speaker 1>the D line is doing to the O line. But

1397
01:14:41.640 --> 01:14:44.239
<v Speaker 1>I was ahead down by the end zone, and here

1398
01:14:44.239 --> 01:14:48.000
<v Speaker 1>comes David Boovier popping open, and Terry Wilson hits him,

1399
01:14:48.399 --> 01:14:51.119
<v Speaker 1>sneaking in there behind the Florida defense, and I immediately

1400
01:14:51.159 --> 01:14:51.960
<v Speaker 1>recalled that.

1401
01:14:52.039 --> 01:14:54.159
<v Speaker 2>I believe it was that year when I.

1402
01:14:54.079 --> 01:14:56.159
<v Speaker 1>Went to do an interview with Mark Steups priors of

1403
01:14:56.199 --> 01:14:58.760
<v Speaker 1>the Blue White Game, and I always ask him who

1404
01:14:58.800 --> 01:15:03.479
<v Speaker 1>has stood out, and oftentimes anymore he won't give you

1405
01:15:03.520 --> 01:15:06.359
<v Speaker 1>one name or real decline to answer, but a couple

1406
01:15:06.359 --> 01:15:09.640
<v Speaker 1>of times he mentioned specific players. In that year was

1407
01:15:09.680 --> 01:15:12.720
<v Speaker 1>one of them, and he right away said, you know,

1408
01:15:12.880 --> 01:15:15.760
<v Speaker 1>David Bouvier's had a really good spring. This guy is

1409
01:15:15.800 --> 01:15:18.600
<v Speaker 1>a former walk on but getting a lot of clock

1410
01:15:18.640 --> 01:15:22.159
<v Speaker 1>at wide receiver, and he catches the first touchdown pass

1411
01:15:22.199 --> 01:15:25.760
<v Speaker 1>to the game, giving Kentucky their early lead. That was

1412
01:15:25.800 --> 01:15:27.800
<v Speaker 1>also the game where Terry Wilson did it with his

1413
01:15:27.920 --> 01:15:30.880
<v Speaker 1>arm and his legs, ran away from trouble all night.

1414
01:15:31.520 --> 01:15:35.399
<v Speaker 1>And I remember one point the Florida student section and

1415
01:15:35.600 --> 01:15:37.800
<v Speaker 1>they hang over the wall. They like to heckle me

1416
01:15:38.279 --> 01:15:41.119
<v Speaker 1>and anybody from Kentucky. But I walk by them all

1417
01:15:41.159 --> 01:15:42.960
<v Speaker 1>the time. I have to to get from one end

1418
01:15:42.960 --> 01:15:46.119
<v Speaker 1>of the field to the other. And they're not dangerous,

1419
01:15:46.159 --> 01:15:48.359
<v Speaker 1>but you know, they can be funny, they can be rude.

1420
01:15:48.720 --> 01:15:51.720
<v Speaker 1>But they were really heckling me. But early in the game,

1421
01:15:51.960 --> 01:15:54.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about middle of the second quarter, this one

1422
01:15:54.600 --> 01:15:57.239
<v Speaker 1>kid who had been yelling at me got my attention

1423
01:15:58.399 --> 01:16:00.359
<v Speaker 1>and I looked up. I'm like yeah, and he goes

1424
01:16:00.399 --> 01:16:04.079
<v Speaker 1>your quarterback. I'm like, yeah, he's awesome. I said, yeah,

1425
01:16:04.079 --> 01:16:04.760
<v Speaker 1>he is, isn't he?

1426
01:16:05.000 --> 01:16:07.560
<v Speaker 2>You know? But it was because he made plays like this.

1427
01:16:08.600 --> 01:16:12.159
<v Speaker 7>Wilson thankes the pitch on a keeper at the twenty

1428
01:16:12.399 --> 01:16:17.119
<v Speaker 7>at the fifteen ten five touchdown Kentucky. They sent the

1429
01:16:17.159 --> 01:16:19.359
<v Speaker 7>flow to the left, bake the pitch, and he cut

1430
01:16:19.359 --> 01:16:21.560
<v Speaker 7>it back right and went for sick.

1431
01:16:21.960 --> 01:16:24.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't know the Florida ever caught up to him

1432
01:16:24.239 --> 01:16:29.439
<v Speaker 1>that night, because later on he gets loose and finds

1433
01:16:29.720 --> 01:16:32.199
<v Speaker 1>Lynn Bowden, and you would hear that name a lot

1434
01:16:32.239 --> 01:16:35.720
<v Speaker 1>the following year, when Kentucky ran out of quarterback. Lynn

1435
01:16:35.760 --> 01:16:39.399
<v Speaker 1>Bowden had a sensational season moving from wide receiver to quarterback,

1436
01:16:39.640 --> 01:16:41.560
<v Speaker 1>but made a heck of a play this night down

1437
01:16:41.560 --> 01:16:42.319
<v Speaker 1>in Gainesville.

1438
01:16:42.680 --> 01:16:45.920
<v Speaker 7>Wilson with a play fake all kinds of time. He

1439
01:16:46.039 --> 01:16:48.439
<v Speaker 7>is throwing deep Soden's out there.

1440
01:16:48.479 --> 01:16:50.960
<v Speaker 2>Got it tuck down Kentucky.

1441
01:16:54.000 --> 01:16:57.359
<v Speaker 7>Wilson laden right in a Brent pasket inside the five.

1442
01:16:58.479 --> 01:17:00.800
<v Speaker 2>Well. Tom just about lost his mind. I know that one.

1443
01:17:01.279 --> 01:17:03.760
<v Speaker 1>And then of course at the very end, Florida still

1444
01:17:03.800 --> 01:17:06.840
<v Speaker 1>had a chance, but you know, nowhere near the goal line,

1445
01:17:07.359 --> 01:17:10.800
<v Speaker 1>and Kentucky flushed the Gators out of the pocket, forced

1446
01:17:10.800 --> 01:17:14.560
<v Speaker 1>a turnover and DeVante Robinson picks up a loose ball

1447
01:17:14.880 --> 01:17:16.840
<v Speaker 1>and Mark stoops and the guys on the sidelines were

1448
01:17:16.840 --> 01:17:18.159
<v Speaker 1>like run, and.

1449
01:17:18.159 --> 01:17:18.720
<v Speaker 2>So he did.

1450
01:17:18.760 --> 01:17:21.159
<v Speaker 1>He got tackled at the one, but fell into the

1451
01:17:21.239 --> 01:17:24.479
<v Speaker 1>end zone and it goes as a touchdown.

1452
01:17:24.560 --> 01:17:27.399
<v Speaker 2>On the last play of the game, four man rush,

1453
01:17:27.439 --> 01:17:29.880
<v Speaker 2>Frank's retreating, He's head.

1454
01:17:29.680 --> 01:17:33.159
<v Speaker 7>As he throws it flutters incomplete with five seconds to play.

1455
01:17:33.279 --> 01:17:34.319
<v Speaker 4>Josh Allen got.

1456
01:17:34.279 --> 01:17:36.800
<v Speaker 7>Him touchdown Kentucky.

1457
01:17:37.000 --> 01:17:39.640
<v Speaker 2>They're saying there was no look at this on replay.

1458
01:17:39.760 --> 01:17:42.199
<v Speaker 7>There was no whistle, Tom and the officials were just

1459
01:17:42.239 --> 01:17:45.159
<v Speaker 7>looking at Davonte Robinson I think was who picked that

1460
01:17:45.239 --> 01:17:48.399
<v Speaker 7>ball up, and they signed touchdown for Kentucky. After further review,

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<v Speaker 7>the ruling on the field of a fumble is confirmed.

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01:17:51.359 --> 01:17:53.760
<v Speaker 2>It streak is over Tucky. At the end of the

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01:17:53.760 --> 01:17:57.439
<v Speaker 2>play turns over touchdown Ku.

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01:17:57.680 --> 01:18:00.159
<v Speaker 3>Touchdown Kentucky.

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01:18:01.319 --> 01:18:05.840
<v Speaker 7>After thirty one long games, the streak ends.

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01:18:06.640 --> 01:18:07.840
<v Speaker 2>That was a crazy night.

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01:18:07.880 --> 01:18:10.479
<v Speaker 1>That was fun being in the Kentucky locker room after that,

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01:18:11.279 --> 01:18:13.239
<v Speaker 1>and then the next time we all go down to

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01:18:13.239 --> 01:18:15.920
<v Speaker 1>Florida to cover this game that I believed two years

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01:18:15.960 --> 01:18:20.359
<v Speaker 1>later that might have been when the somebody was it,

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01:18:20.520 --> 01:18:25.479
<v Speaker 1>Roman Harper called Kentucky soft. It was one of the

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01:18:25.560 --> 01:18:29.840
<v Speaker 1>ensuing trips and Kentucky goes down and wins. And the

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01:18:29.880 --> 01:18:32.039
<v Speaker 1>first thing Stoops did when he got into the locker

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01:18:32.119 --> 01:18:33.479
<v Speaker 1>room was jump up on the bench and.

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01:18:33.520 --> 01:18:34.720
<v Speaker 2>The other Who's soft?

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01:18:34.840 --> 01:18:39.199
<v Speaker 1>Now there have been over the last several years some

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01:18:39.319 --> 01:18:44.439
<v Speaker 1>really amazing Kentucky Florida gamest Trevin Wallace as a freshman

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01:18:44.520 --> 01:18:48.359
<v Speaker 1>returning a blocked field goal for a touchdown, something that

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01:18:48.439 --> 01:18:51.880
<v Speaker 1>got away. Jared Lorenz and throws a bad pick. Derek

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01:18:51.920 --> 01:18:54.680
<v Speaker 1>Abney returns a kick for a touchdown, and a holding

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01:18:54.720 --> 01:18:57.560
<v Speaker 1>call behind the play on the other side of the

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01:18:57.600 --> 01:19:01.520
<v Speaker 1>field brings that one. So there have just been and

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01:19:01.560 --> 01:19:03.880
<v Speaker 1>then of course the blowouts in the Spurier era.

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01:19:03.960 --> 01:19:05.159
<v Speaker 2>We'd like to forget about.

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01:19:04.960 --> 01:19:08.319
<v Speaker 1>Them, but uh, this will be an interesting game on

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01:19:08.399 --> 01:19:10.279
<v Speaker 1>Saturday night and you will hear it right here.

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01:19:10.720 --> 01:19:12.119
<v Speaker 2>That's gonna do it. Thanks for joining us.

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01:19:12.159 --> 01:19:15.119
<v Speaker 1>Thanks to my guest Maggie Davis, Steve Russell, Tony Franklin.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a good night from the garage in Lexington.

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01:19:17.760 --> 01:21:11.920
<v Speaker 8>Wants an orange whip, une whip, unge whip, three orange whips,

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01:20:00.880 --> 01:20:46.520
<v Speaker 8>say

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01:20:58.920 --> 01:21:05.039
<v Speaker 2>Dan.
