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<v Speaker 1>Baby, you are a gangster tune.

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<v Speaker 2>It takes at a tangle.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't want to mess with me? Mess with me, baby,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a gangster tum baby your gamester tune.

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<v Speaker 3>Trigger warning.

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<v Speaker 4>This podcast is designed to take you outside of your

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<v Speaker 4>comfort zone and make you question reality.

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<v Speaker 3>Listener Discretion is a vide.

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<v Speaker 2>Somebody shot.

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<v Speaker 1>Fuck with me, fellas.

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<v Speaker 2>This ain't my first time at the rodeo. Hello, and

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<v Speaker 2>welcome back to the show. A little range of scenery.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll talk about that another time. Onto business. How is

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<v Speaker 2>everybody doing a lot of stuff that we need to

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<v Speaker 2>catch up on today? So I didn't know about this.

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<v Speaker 2>Colby told me about this. What did I fucking say?

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<v Speaker 2>What like two weeks ago? Three weeks ago? I said,

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<v Speaker 2>in order to distract from the Epstein files, they're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>come out with some fucking crazy shit about aliens, extraterrestrials something,

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<v Speaker 2>And so I guess Trump tweeted that he was gonna

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<v Speaker 2>do some ancient aliens disclosure type shit. And I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if he's done it yet or not, or if

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<v Speaker 2>he's just talking trying to distract because they're about to

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<v Speaker 2>come out and say there was some shit in the

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<v Speaker 2>Epstein files about getting piped up the b hole or

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<v Speaker 2>some stuff like that. It's about to say, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we was drowning puppies, we was eating babies, We was

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<v Speaker 2>doing all the things. Oh, by the way, aliens, So

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<v Speaker 2>we'll see how that shakes out. I fucking told you so.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like Alex Jones right now, minus that I'm

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<v Speaker 2>like a CIA operative. Anyways, So I was watching this

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<v Speaker 2>thing the other day. I got two stories for you,

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<v Speaker 2>both true stories.

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<v Speaker 1>You can google it.

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<v Speaker 2>The first story was this dude was just sitting on

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<v Speaker 2>his back patio or something like that, just minding his

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<v Speaker 2>own business, maybe doing a little barbecue in I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>and all of a sudden he sees this airplane, commercial

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<v Speaker 2>airplane like Southwest or some shit like that, just flying

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<v Speaker 2>over his house and a dude person he didn't know

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<v Speaker 2>was a dude at the time, just falling straight out

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<v Speaker 2>of the airplane. So he starts freaking out, calls nine

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<v Speaker 2>to one one something like that, and he tries to

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<v Speaker 2>walk over to where he thinks this sky's gonna drop,

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<v Speaker 2>and by the time he gets there, there's a man

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<v Speaker 2>in a bathrobe standing there his whole back patio. This

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<v Speaker 2>ement is fucking cave. The fucking like a fucking meteor

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<v Speaker 2>shower just occurred, and the dude that fell out of

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<v Speaker 2>the airplane hit this other guy's back patio, shattered the concrete,

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<v Speaker 2>and there were just bits and chunks of dismembered body parts, blood,

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<v Speaker 2>everything splattered all over the fucking place. And it turns out,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how they came to this conclusion, but

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<v Speaker 2>this is what they say. The guy was already dead

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<v Speaker 2>before he hited the patio, and he was also frozen solid.

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<v Speaker 2>And at the end of the show they tried to

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<v Speaker 2>explain it away by saying, oh, he was probably like

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<v Speaker 2>a stowaway person and he got stuck somewhere in the

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<v Speaker 2>airplane and froze into an ice cube. However that happens,

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<v Speaker 2>not saying it can't, but that's what this story is.

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<v Speaker 2>And he was already dead because he was a frozen

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<v Speaker 2>chunk of ice cube in the airplane. And then somehow,

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<v Speaker 2>all on its own, the airplane decided to open some

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<v Speaker 2>kind of hatch and his body was ejected from the

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<v Speaker 2>airplane and just went spiraling through the air landed on

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<v Speaker 2>this guy's back patio. He comes out in his bathrobe.

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<v Speaker 2>That's definitely not something you'd expect to see on a

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<v Speaker 2>Sunday morning in your bathrobe' So like, oh, I think

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<v Speaker 2>I might do a little barbecuing today. I think I might,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, refill the bird feeders, enjoy and relax a

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<v Speaker 2>peaceful Sunday morning. No, you got a frozen, dead ass

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<v Speaker 2>corpse sky falling onto your back patio and shattering into

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<v Speaker 2>a million pieces. Now let's turn on our conspiracy brains

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<v Speaker 2>for a second. Let's say there's many possible options here,

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<v Speaker 2>but let's say it was a stowaway who got trapped

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<v Speaker 2>in the airplane, somehow turned into an icicle and then

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<v Speaker 2>fell out of the plane. Why would the airplane open

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<v Speaker 2>like it's a commercial it's like a passenger airplane. It's

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<v Speaker 2>like Delta fucking flying over a neighborhood. Why would the

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<v Speaker 2>airplane suddenly open to eject this sky It doesn't make

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<v Speaker 2>sense to me. That would have freaked out all the

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<v Speaker 2>passengers if they're Oh, by the way, if you hear something,

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<v Speaker 2>we're just opening up whatever under the plane. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>throw out this dead guy. Secondly, how is it? And

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<v Speaker 2>maybe I'm just retarded. If he was a stowaway, why

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<v Speaker 2>was he in a frozen block of ice. It wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>in the middle of winter. This was summertime. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>I know it gets cold the higher up you go

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever, but a frozen block of ice. And then

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<v Speaker 2>the airplane opens just in time to expel this guy.

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<v Speaker 2>So he falls out over a neighborhood. And the guy

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<v Speaker 2>was never identified. Like if that happened to me, I'd

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<v Speaker 2>be like following up and shit, like, who's DNA do

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<v Speaker 2>I have all over this patio? And do they have

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<v Speaker 2>a cousin or a spouse or something that's gonna reimburst

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<v Speaker 2>me for the damage to my patio? Like I get

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<v Speaker 2>at rip and everything. I got a patio I gotta fix.

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<v Speaker 2>Does he have a life insurance policy? What's the name?

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<v Speaker 2>I can look for it under? All right? So, and

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<v Speaker 2>does homeowners cover that? Like that's the call you wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>want to make it to your homeowner's insurance. Yes, I

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<v Speaker 2>have a problem I need to report. I'd like to

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<v Speaker 2>open up a case file for my back patio. It's

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<v Speaker 2>caved the fucking dead frozen chunk of ice. Did ass

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<v Speaker 2>corpse busted up my patio? And I was gonna have

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<v Speaker 2>people over next weekend? And now I can't because there's

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<v Speaker 2>blood and guts all over my fucking brand new fucking

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<v Speaker 2>patio shit furniture, and who's gonna pay for But anyways,

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<v Speaker 2>I'd just be thinking about stuff like this, like the

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<v Speaker 2>guy never got identified. It was never explained how he

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<v Speaker 2>turned into a frozen block of ice and why he

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<v Speaker 2>was dumped out of a passenger airplane over a neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 2>Just dot dot dot, I guess remains to be seen,

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<v Speaker 2>little creepy, little weird hopefully. You know, just when you

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<v Speaker 2>go out of your house, people look for the kimtrails,

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<v Speaker 2>look for you know, they'd be spraying us and shit,

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<v Speaker 2>but also frozen dead ass corpse falling unidentified bodies in

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<v Speaker 2>the sky. This is America. You never know what you're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna get. Okay, maybe a according to Trump. Now, second

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<v Speaker 2>story I heard about, Okay, this one, and you can

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<v Speaker 2>google it. I'm about to google it right now because

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<v Speaker 2>I forgot the name of the team. And this will

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<v Speaker 2>add credibility to this shit, cause you guys be thinking

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<v Speaker 2>I make this stuff up. Okay, nineteen ninety eight, the

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<v Speaker 2>Democratic Republic of the Congo. All right, eleven players from

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<v Speaker 2>one soccer team worst, This is okay, The soccer team

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<v Speaker 2>was the binadash Shadi Tashadi team, uh whatever, who cares?

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<v Speaker 2>Democratic Republic of the Congo okay, nineteen ninety eight. During

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<v Speaker 2>this soccer match, eleven players from the Tashati team were

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<v Speaker 2>all simultaneously struck by lightning, and nobody from the other team.

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<v Speaker 2>Not a fucking thing happened to him, No lightning bolt,

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<v Speaker 2>nothing going on, okay. And thirty of the fans for

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<v Speaker 2>the Tashati team were somehow got a blowback lightning thing

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<v Speaker 2>going on and suffered severe like third degree burns, and

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<v Speaker 2>none of the fans from the other team.

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<v Speaker 1>Got sizzled.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's a little interesting to me, okay. And this again,

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<v Speaker 2>you can google it all right. The whole team, the

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<v Speaker 2>whole team, just that team, eleven players simultaneously struck by

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<v Speaker 2>lightning and if you remember, and then thirty of their

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<v Speaker 2>fans scorched, sizzled, burnt, roasted. Okay. And apparently there's several

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<v Speaker 2>other instances of this happening. Peru November twenty twenty four,

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<v Speaker 2>Ohio June twenty twenty five, South Africa twenty eighteen, Sunshine Coast, Australia,

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<v Speaker 2>October twenty twenty five. So you tell me. Okay, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not even just a one off case. Several times this

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<v Speaker 2>has happened apparently. Now this is some hoodoo voodoo the

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<v Speaker 2>democratic of the Congo that it sounds like some shit

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<v Speaker 2>that they would be doing. Right, let's be real ritualism.

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<v Speaker 2>But it makes me think of the Brazil episode because

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<v Speaker 2>they be consorting with witch doctors who do voodoo witchcraft

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<v Speaker 2>stuff controlling the weather. That's one of the things that

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<v Speaker 2>they're known to be fucking with. The bitch with the

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<v Speaker 2>more Gallants. Sorry, the young woman who may or may

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<v Speaker 2>not be on the verge of a psychotic break from

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<v Speaker 2>the SRA Part one and two. She got struck by lightning. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>there was that other guy I mentioned in that episode

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<v Speaker 2>who kept getting struck by lightning, So weather manipulation is real. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>They sizzled the whole soccer team in thirty fans, so

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<v Speaker 2>be careful who you support out there, all right, might

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<v Speaker 2>not want to wear one of their jerseys to Walmart.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay if you fan, keep that shit a secret, or

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<v Speaker 2>else get hit by lightning and have more Gallan's disease

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<v Speaker 2>and shit, I don't know what to tell you. Google it.

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<v Speaker 2>It happened Okay, we live in a world where this.

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<v Speaker 2>We live in a world where these things are possible. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>imagine being a fan of this soccer team, living in

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<v Speaker 2>the Democratic Republic of the Congo, and be sitting okay,

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<v Speaker 2>on your back patio, dead frozen guy falls on your

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<v Speaker 2>back patio blood and gets everywhere, and you're like, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what, I think I'm gonna cheer myself up by

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<v Speaker 2>going to this soccer game. Later, your whole team gets

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<v Speaker 2>simultaneously struck by lightning and you get third degree burned,

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<v Speaker 2>scorched rightness seat. This is the world we live in.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a paranormal, supernatural, unbelievable, disgusting, gross, horrific, horrendous, terrifying

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<v Speaker 2>place to live. So watch your six enjoy this episode.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we can enjoy the simple things in life.

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<v Speaker 2>And I got a little bit of another watch party

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<v Speaker 2>for us today. I might skip through some stuff. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>call me retarded, but I really hadn't never heard of

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<v Speaker 2>this woman before. Apparently she's a little bit infamous and

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<v Speaker 2>maybe a little bit also on the verge of a

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<v Speaker 2>psychotic break I did. Now, this is why I'm skeptical

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<v Speaker 2>of this woman. Okay, because apparently she's popped up everywhere,

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<v Speaker 2>But I still feel like it's worth hearing the whole

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<v Speaker 2>testimonial from her, okay, and then we can decide as

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<v Speaker 2>we go along if we believe it or not. But

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<v Speaker 2>I seen this bitch on Facebook ads because I'd be

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<v Speaker 2>scrolling through there, you know, watching mom videos and looking

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<v Speaker 2>for free furniture on Facebook marketplace, as one tends to do,

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<v Speaker 2>and she popped up on an ad trying to sell

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<v Speaker 2>some kind of hippie, dippy nonsense oil to rub on

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<v Speaker 2>your taint, to conjure spirits or something like that, some

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<v Speaker 2>blue lotus maringa taint rub. And I was like, oh

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<v Speaker 2>my god, that's that bitch from that video saying she

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<v Speaker 2>was an Siray survivor. The same, the very same bitch

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<v Speaker 2>from that video saying she was an SIRA survivor. Now

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<v Speaker 2>she's on ads for maringa taint rub. Like, what's going

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<v Speaker 2>on with this woman? She's attractive, well spoken, got a

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<v Speaker 2>vibe about her, you know what I mean. And I'm

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<v Speaker 2>wondering if she might not be just like an actress

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<v Speaker 2>faking a lot of this stuff, or if maybe she

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<v Speaker 2>is telling the truth, Maybe she is an SRA survivor,

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<v Speaker 2>and now she's just moved on with her life and

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<v Speaker 2>she sells blue lotus maringa taint rub to conjure the

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<v Speaker 2>Cundalini's and the Tordolini's and whatever else behole Leni's vage

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<v Speaker 2>hold teenis whatever. I don't be doing this stuff. You

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<v Speaker 2>might you guys might know more about it. But this

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<v Speaker 2>woman popped up as like you know, on YouTube, and

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<v Speaker 2>I watched the video or whatever, like SRA Survivor. Her

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<v Speaker 2>Couci Tordolini rub. All right, that definitely okay, matches with

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<v Speaker 2>her profile. But could this be a real person who

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<v Speaker 2>planted to throw some weirdness in with the authentic, genuine

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<v Speaker 2>SRA Survivor testimonies to kind of discredit them, like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>look at this, you know, bitch, she's saying all this

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<v Speaker 2>whatever whatever this yeah, And the third thing, this is wild,

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<v Speaker 2>This is crazy. This is the most bizarre shit I've

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<v Speaker 2>So take that for what you will. Maybe she is

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<v Speaker 2>planted and staged or whatever. But I do think it's

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<v Speaker 2>interesting and we can kind of unpack this together as

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<v Speaker 2>we go. But let me sure my screen. Hang on,

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<v Speaker 2>let me pull this shit up her because I'd be slacking.

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<v Speaker 2>I get so excited to chat with my besties. I

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<v Speaker 2>forget to pull up the videos and stuff. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>here we go, hang on, all right. The bitch name

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<v Speaker 2>is Teal Swan, okay, and she wants you to teal

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<v Speaker 2>your swan with her tordolini rub And this is the

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<v Speaker 2>kind of thing she'd be doing. I read all the comments.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, she's talking about all the things we know about,

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<v Speaker 2>and everybody in the comments section is let's make this

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<v Speaker 2>go viral. You know, she's the strongest woman I know, and.

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<v Speaker 4>This and that.

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<v Speaker 2>So people are really buying into this stuff. And I

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<v Speaker 2>definitely think she has an interesting story to tell. Whether

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<v Speaker 2>or not all the bits and pieces biscuits and gravy

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<v Speaker 2>are true remains to be seen. But let's watch it together.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll unpack it, discuss it, and go from there.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have my checks and everything? We're good?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, so we'll just go ahead and get started just

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<v Speaker 4>for the my check and so we have it on record.

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<v Speaker 4>Can I have you say and spell your name.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's Teals Loe t e ao Am.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, And I'm just gonna have you just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, Well I should probably start before then,

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<v Speaker 1>because this all started basically when I was really young,

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<v Speaker 1>and I started exhibiting these types of abilities basically, and

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<v Speaker 1>regardless of whether somebody does or doesn't believe in extra

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<v Speaker 1>heal someone with energy stuff like this, there are a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people in the world who do believe in

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<v Speaker 1>those things, and a lot of religions that believe in

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<v Speaker 1>those things. Right, So when I was younger, I would

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<v Speaker 1>put my hands on people and they'd experience healings, or

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<v Speaker 1>I would talk to them from the standpoint of their

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<v Speaker 1>dead relatives stuff like that. And I was also able

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<v Speaker 1>to see the org field what I now understand is

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<v Speaker 1>the ORG field. So I would be talking to people

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<v Speaker 1>about things that I technically shouldn't know at that age,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was a little off putting to my parents,

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<v Speaker 1>super scary to them if I wanted to be honest,

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<v Speaker 1>to have this kid who they were really scientific, not

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<v Speaker 1>even religious people, and so to have this kid with

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<v Speaker 1>all these these interesting abilities was like, WHOA, we don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what to do with this. So it's really important

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<v Speaker 1>to understand that, because it's the real basis for why

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<v Speaker 1>I was brought in like I was. So my parents

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<v Speaker 1>they ended up being offered a job, a wilderness forced

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<v Speaker 1>ranger job in this like rural area in between Idaho

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<v Speaker 1>and Utah, and I don't know if they were super

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<v Speaker 1>aware of just how intensely religious everything was in the

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<v Speaker 1>about whether it would be a major impact on me. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>when I got here as a kid, you don't you're

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<v Speaker 1>not really socialized yet, so you don't know what's normal

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<v Speaker 1>what's not normal. So I would just do what it

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<v Speaker 1>was normal, and I'd say, go to class. My first

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<v Speaker 1>few times going to school was not good. I'd go

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<v Speaker 1>up to the teacher and I'd be like having conversations

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<v Speaker 1>with her about something that her dead father that had

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to say to her, or things like that. And

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<v Speaker 1>it just happens that the most dominant religion in the

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<v Speaker 1>area that I grew up in is Mormonism, and the

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<v Speaker 1>Mormonism they believe in this concept that all of the

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<v Speaker 1>God given abilities, which are some of the things that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm demonstrating, extra sensory abilities, the ability to heal people,

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<v Speaker 1>the ability to give blessings, stuff like that that is

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<v Speaker 1>seen as a gift from God to Joseph Smith and

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<v Speaker 1>from Joseph Smith to men in the church. And so

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<v Speaker 1>women technically could not hold priesthood, which are something that

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<v Speaker 1>abused these abilities. So if a woman is exhibiting these abilities,

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<v Speaker 1>they believed at that time that it was a gift

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<v Speaker 1>of the devil. So it like raised the hackles on

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<v Speaker 1>the back of the neck of a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>that were in this really small community that was near us,

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<v Speaker 1>and they you know how word travels at church in

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<v Speaker 1>small towns. It was like this person told that person,

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<v Speaker 1>told this person told that person, and it was like

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<v Speaker 1>mass ostracization. They did not want me playing with their children,

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't want me going into their houses, they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>want any interaction whatsoever. They weren't seeing my parents at

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<v Speaker 1>sacrament meeting. They were super upset about that. So after

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<v Speaker 1>aggressively trying to convert my family and it not working.

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<v Speaker 1>They kind of gave up and they pulled the term

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<v Speaker 1>the other cheek type of mentality. But the issue there

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<v Speaker 1>is that you've got all these splinter groups off of

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<v Speaker 1>the Mormon religion, right, So you've got the FLDS, which

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<v Speaker 1>is what most people are super familiar with. They're fundamental Mormons.

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<v Speaker 1>They believe in the idea of polygamy. Now there are

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<v Speaker 1>other splinter groups. One of these is a cult which

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<v Speaker 1>operates in Utah and Idaho mainly, and it's called the

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<v Speaker 1>Blood Covenant. They believe in blood atonement, so they've attached

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<v Speaker 1>to that doctrine in the same way that the FLDS

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<v Speaker 1>attached to the idea of polygamy. And blood atonement basically,

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<v Speaker 1>which is something which Brigham Young was obsessive about. He

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<v Speaker 1>would talk about this on lots of his pulpit speeches.

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<v Speaker 1>You can look it up if you want to. Blood

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<v Speaker 1>atonement is basically the idea that there are some sins

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<v Speaker 1>which can't be paid for by the death of Christ.

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<v Speaker 1>It has to be paid for by the blood of man.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's a really famous pulpit speech where he basically

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<v Speaker 1>your neighbor commits adultery, if you love him, you will

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<v Speaker 1>kill him. So this particular group has latched onto those

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<v Speaker 1>teachings and has used it to justify all kinds of things,

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<v Speaker 1>which is of course at an issue in all religions.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like it's up to so much interpretation that let's

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<v Speaker 1>say that you've got your basic sociopath or psychopath. Now

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<v Speaker 1>they can infiltrate a church basically, and they can use

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<v Speaker 1>those teachings to justify what they're doing. So a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the people that are in this covenant group are

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<v Speaker 1>like super deviant, like psychotically deviant, and so if you're

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<v Speaker 1>growing up like, for example, there was a family that

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<v Speaker 1>I grew up around in this cult where it's the

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<v Speaker 1>kids would steal something from like the cupboards, and like

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<v Speaker 1>a kid tries to go take a cookie, they would

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<v Speaker 1>slit their wrists and lead them over a sink for

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<v Speaker 1>like an allotted amount of time. And that was just

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<v Speaker 1>a normal punishment. So it's like the Mormon version of

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<v Speaker 1>the Catholic penitentes, where in suffering and in bleeding you

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<v Speaker 1>will basically be absolved in your sins. So I was

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<v Speaker 1>caught on the radar of this particular cult group. And

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know exactly how that happened, but there was

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<v Speaker 1>a member of that particular group who actually knew my

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<v Speaker 1>mother from previous to when I was born, and I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know any of that, by the way, So at

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<v Speaker 1>this point, I'm like four or five, and I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know any of that background story. But my mother was

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<v Speaker 1>trying to get me around friends because I had none,

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<v Speaker 1>and so there was a girl who was in my

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<v Speaker 1>kindergarten class, I think it was, and she thought, okay, well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a good opportunity to get her around them because

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<v Speaker 1>they're not Mormon. She didn't know what they were, but

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<v Speaker 1>they weren't Mormon, So let's get her to go over

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<v Speaker 1>to this girl's house and see if she can make friend.

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<v Speaker 1>I was a wickedly shy child, so she brought me

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<v Speaker 1>over to that house. And the first time that I

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<v Speaker 1>played with that girl at her house on her own

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<v Speaker 1>was when I found out that her father was actually

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<v Speaker 1>part of a Satanic cult. So this is a whole

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<v Speaker 1>separate cult which exists in this area. And I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know exactly what rank he held in this particular Satanic religion,

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<v Speaker 1>but that first night that we went over there and

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<v Speaker 1>I had my first sleep with her. The father was

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<v Speaker 1>taking pornographic photographs of the daughter and I in his

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<v Speaker 1>little basement area. Now this is it's like he like

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<v Speaker 1>sadomasochistic porn. So when I was down there, there was

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<v Speaker 1>a man who walked down the stairs who would of

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<v Speaker 1>course turn into this person who pulled me into everything,

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<v Speaker 1>my keeper they call it. Who was this man who

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<v Speaker 1>knew my mother previously? But he basically came downstairs with

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<v Speaker 1>these buckets full of cowblood that he had purchased from

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<v Speaker 1>or I assume purchased maybe was just given from the

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<v Speaker 1>taking pictures of us kissing each other and touching each

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<v Speaker 1>other things like that. So I assumed that he was

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<v Speaker 1>or three times more I went with her to satanic

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<v Speaker 1>rituals that were taking place with those people. I had

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<v Speaker 1>no idea what the hell was going on with them.

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<v Speaker 1>I was super shy. He that father was not like

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<v Speaker 1>as deviant as the rest of the people that I

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<v Speaker 1>would meet, So he was doing the really confusing back

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<v Speaker 1>and forth stuff with his daughter a lot where one

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<v Speaker 1>minute he'd be doing stuff like that, the next minute

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<v Speaker 1>he'd be like, you're so beautiful. You know I love you, right,

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<v Speaker 1>this is our little secret. So but the real reason

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<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you this whole thing because that is where

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<v Speaker 1>I got on the radars of this particular guy who

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<v Speaker 1>would become pretty much my number one abuser and what

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<v Speaker 1>they call a keeper in the group was just this man.

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<v Speaker 1>So that summer he ended up targeting me. I was walking,

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<v Speaker 1>not walking, I was riding my little Huffey bike sort

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<v Speaker 1>of down below my house in a Mormon steakhouse building

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<v Speaker 1>parking lot, and he had come up behind me, basically

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<v Speaker 1>drugged me off the Huffey bike, took me into this

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<v Speaker 1>on my face and I was raped by him. That

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<v Speaker 1>was the first time I was ever raped and my

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<v Speaker 1>first interaction with that man specifically, and he picks me up,

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<v Speaker 1>back towards the house. Now, I was completely convinced at

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<v Speaker 1>this point that I had been in trouble for riding

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<v Speaker 1>my bike somewhere that I wasn't supposed to be. I

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<v Speaker 1>knew Mormons hated us like we were no Mormon. Of

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<v Speaker 1>course I shouldn't be around the stakehouse. But it's just

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<v Speaker 2>Where are the fucking parents?

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<v Speaker 1>Like?

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<v Speaker 2>Am I crazy or something? Or did I just have

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<v Speaker 2>like a hyper vigilant mother. If I went and spent

417
00:29:44.279 --> 00:29:48.839
<v Speaker 2>the fucking night at a friend's house, she called me

418
00:29:49.200 --> 00:29:53.279
<v Speaker 2>at the friend's house, what you do? And how are Yeah?

419
00:29:54.039 --> 00:30:00.519
<v Speaker 2>Is the dad weird things like this? Okay? And when

420
00:30:00.680 --> 00:30:03.160
<v Speaker 2>she'd either pick me up at the friend's house or

421
00:30:03.279 --> 00:30:05.640
<v Speaker 2>if I got dropped off, the first thing she'd say

422
00:30:05.759 --> 00:30:09.000
<v Speaker 2>is what did you guys do? Did you have a

423
00:30:09.079 --> 00:30:13.720
<v Speaker 2>good time? You know, fill me in on all the details.

424
00:30:14.200 --> 00:30:17.039
<v Speaker 2>Did you braid each other's fucking hair? Did you fucking

425
00:30:17.160 --> 00:30:20.039
<v Speaker 2>do makeup parties? What movies did you watch?

426
00:30:20.240 --> 00:30:20.960
<v Speaker 1>What did you do?

427
00:30:22.039 --> 00:30:27.559
<v Speaker 2>Okay? Where are the pair runs? Okay?

428
00:30:29.240 --> 00:30:29.839
<v Speaker 5>And I get it.

429
00:30:31.119 --> 00:30:33.359
<v Speaker 2>She looks a little bit older than me, but probably

430
00:30:33.440 --> 00:30:38.799
<v Speaker 2>still a nineties kid. Okay, maybe late eighties early nineties kid.

431
00:30:39.359 --> 00:30:42.359
<v Speaker 2>Parents were a little bit more relaxed back then. But

432
00:30:42.720 --> 00:30:48.440
<v Speaker 2>nobody's asking. Nobody's asking, Like if I would have come

433
00:30:48.559 --> 00:30:53.119
<v Speaker 2>home from a friend's house and said, Mom, you know,

434
00:30:53.279 --> 00:30:56.000
<v Speaker 2>we threw blood on each other and we got naked

435
00:30:56.759 --> 00:31:03.759
<v Speaker 2>and Jessica's dad took pictures. No, no, okay, And there

436
00:31:03.799 --> 00:31:07.920
<v Speaker 2>would have been at least a phone call, at least

437
00:31:08.079 --> 00:31:13.319
<v Speaker 2>one phone call from my mom that night. Hey, Julia,

438
00:31:13.400 --> 00:31:15.119
<v Speaker 2>your mom's on the phone. She wants to talk to you.

439
00:31:15.599 --> 00:31:19.880
<v Speaker 2>Every single time I spent the night at a friend's house, okay,

440
00:31:20.880 --> 00:31:24.680
<v Speaker 2>and most of the time she would say, I think

441
00:31:24.720 --> 00:31:26.880
<v Speaker 2>their house is dirty, they need to come spend the

442
00:31:26.960 --> 00:31:32.720
<v Speaker 2>night with us. Or I don't like you know, I

443
00:31:32.759 --> 00:31:36.640
<v Speaker 2>don't like Whitney's dad. He gives me the creeps. She

444
00:31:36.839 --> 00:31:40.200
<v Speaker 2>needs to come spend the night over here, all right?

445
00:31:41.319 --> 00:31:46.359
<v Speaker 2>So I mean, is it just me or is it

446
00:31:46.559 --> 00:31:50.039
<v Speaker 2>not weird? Sometimes, like you hear these stories and you

447
00:31:50.160 --> 00:31:56.519
<v Speaker 2>think to yourself, where the fuck was your mom.

448
00:31:59.240 --> 00:31:59.400
<v Speaker 5>Mean that?

449
00:31:59.480 --> 00:32:01.519
<v Speaker 1>I thought that that was my fault, of course at

450
00:32:01.519 --> 00:32:04.200
<v Speaker 1>that protected point, but I tried to ride my Hoffy

451
00:32:04.200 --> 00:32:06.000
<v Speaker 1>bike home. It didn't work. I pulled it out of

452
00:32:06.000 --> 00:32:07.839
<v Speaker 1>the side of the road and then ran into the

453
00:32:07.920 --> 00:32:09.880
<v Speaker 1>field that was by it because I couldn't. I was

454
00:32:10.079 --> 00:32:12.960
<v Speaker 1>really torn up. I was bleeding and so I couldn't

455
00:32:13.000 --> 00:32:14.680
<v Speaker 1>ride my Hofey bike. So I ran off into this

456
00:32:14.920 --> 00:32:17.359
<v Speaker 1>side of this field and just sat there like in

457
00:32:17.480 --> 00:32:20.160
<v Speaker 1>complete shock, and my whole reality fell to pieces, because

458
00:32:20.960 --> 00:32:22.920
<v Speaker 1>up until that point, it's like you sort of assume

459
00:32:23.000 --> 00:32:25.839
<v Speaker 1>that your parents are going to be these omniscient, omnipotent

460
00:32:26.039 --> 00:32:28.240
<v Speaker 1>beings that pick you up before you were about to

461
00:32:28.319 --> 00:32:30.880
<v Speaker 1>fall off a cliff or something. And that's the real

462
00:32:31.119 --> 00:32:33.119
<v Speaker 1>moment that your childhood in is and you realize that

463
00:32:33.160 --> 00:32:36.400
<v Speaker 1>they're not there. Ever. You know, not only are they

464
00:32:36.480 --> 00:32:38.799
<v Speaker 1>not there, they can't protect you from a lot of things.

465
00:32:39.119 --> 00:32:40.519
<v Speaker 1>A lot of things are a lot bigger than you

466
00:32:40.559 --> 00:32:42.920
<v Speaker 1>when you're you know, six years older, five or sick

467
00:32:43.039 --> 00:32:48.359
<v Speaker 1>over it was in Yeah, So from from six years

468
00:32:48.400 --> 00:32:50.400
<v Speaker 1>old on this is when it really got intense because

469
00:32:51.559 --> 00:32:54.039
<v Speaker 1>he figured out he managed like a lot of like

470
00:32:54.240 --> 00:32:57.519
<v Speaker 1>real sociopathic people do. He managed to figure out enough

471
00:32:57.559 --> 00:32:59.920
<v Speaker 1>about my family and enough about what I was doing

472
00:33:00.319 --> 00:33:03.839
<v Speaker 1>that he cornered me at a horse lesson that I

473
00:33:03.920 --> 00:33:07.440
<v Speaker 1>was working at. He was a veterinarian, so he worked

474
00:33:07.480 --> 00:33:10.079
<v Speaker 1>actually with the horses that I was taking lessons on,

475
00:33:11.160 --> 00:33:14.920
<v Speaker 1>and so I was riding around one day and got

476
00:33:15.000 --> 00:33:18.480
<v Speaker 1>off of the horse and my instructor left me alone

477
00:33:18.480 --> 00:33:21.559
<v Speaker 1>for a little bit, walked into the house and here

478
00:33:21.720 --> 00:33:25.079
<v Speaker 1>is this guy. So I'm watching him tie this slit knot,

479
00:33:25.359 --> 00:33:27.759
<v Speaker 1>which they tie with horses, and I was super fascinated

480
00:33:27.799 --> 00:33:31.400
<v Speaker 1>with it at that age, and I was kind of like,

481
00:33:31.519 --> 00:33:34.480
<v Speaker 1>I remember this feeling of paralysis coming over me looking

482
00:33:34.480 --> 00:33:37.839
<v Speaker 1>at this guy, remembering like what it was that he

483
00:33:37.960 --> 00:33:41.480
<v Speaker 1>had done, you know. But he turned over when nobody

484
00:33:41.599 --> 00:33:43.400
<v Speaker 1>was around because she had gone inside and don't remember

485
00:33:43.400 --> 00:33:46.359
<v Speaker 1>what to get. But he took my throat, pushing me

486
00:33:46.480 --> 00:33:48.839
<v Speaker 1>up against the side of the building and said, you

487
00:33:48.880 --> 00:33:51.400
<v Speaker 1>don't know what your life is. You have no idea

488
00:33:52.200 --> 00:33:54.920
<v Speaker 1>who I am. But I'm your real father and your

489
00:33:54.960 --> 00:33:57.440
<v Speaker 1>mother is a whore. And if you say anything about

490
00:33:57.480 --> 00:33:59.319
<v Speaker 1>the fact that we have talked to each other, your

491
00:33:59.359 --> 00:34:03.599
<v Speaker 1>whole entire family's gonna die. And he's like, you better

492
00:34:03.640 --> 00:34:05.440
<v Speaker 1>look out for me, a girl. It's basically he said.

493
00:34:05.519 --> 00:34:08.159
<v Speaker 1>So I was like, oh, how old were you? I

494
00:34:08.280 --> 00:34:11.119
<v Speaker 1>was six of that, okay, But it was in between

495
00:34:11.199 --> 00:34:14.559
<v Speaker 1>a sort of like before I started first grade. No,

496
00:34:17.079 --> 00:34:20.400
<v Speaker 1>this is where it gets super like, super complicated because

497
00:34:20.679 --> 00:34:23.800
<v Speaker 1>of the nature of this particular man. But I was

498
00:34:23.880 --> 00:34:26.079
<v Speaker 1>like from that moment on, because he cornered me like that.

499
00:34:26.639 --> 00:34:28.360
<v Speaker 1>And when you were little like, we got to understand this.

500
00:34:28.519 --> 00:34:30.760
<v Speaker 1>When you're little, you have no reason to disbelieve an

501
00:34:30.760 --> 00:34:33.400
<v Speaker 1>adult none. So if a guy says he's gonna kill

502
00:34:33.440 --> 00:34:35.639
<v Speaker 1>your family, he's gonna hear a family. There's no there's

503
00:34:35.679 --> 00:34:38.079
<v Speaker 1>no like if ans or butts about that. So this

504
00:34:38.199 --> 00:34:40.880
<v Speaker 1>guy had already managed to figure out that that my

505
00:34:41.000 --> 00:34:43.360
<v Speaker 1>family and I were not a good match. We'll put

506
00:34:43.400 --> 00:34:45.239
<v Speaker 1>it that way. It's like, you know, people would love

507
00:34:45.280 --> 00:34:47.119
<v Speaker 1>me to say my parents were fabulous. I just got

508
00:34:47.159 --> 00:34:49.000
<v Speaker 1>sort of taken, but the reality is is that I

509
00:34:49.119 --> 00:34:52.000
<v Speaker 1>didn't get along as my family and especially my mother.

510
00:34:52.480 --> 00:34:54.719
<v Speaker 1>I was like majorly ostracized in the family that I

511
00:34:54.800 --> 00:34:58.559
<v Speaker 1>grew up in. So sociopaths often like to capitalize on that,

512
00:34:58.960 --> 00:35:00.679
<v Speaker 1>like the kid that doesn't fit or the kid no

513
00:35:00.679 --> 00:35:03.360
<v Speaker 1>one relates to. They're like usually really quiet and sort

514
00:35:03.360 --> 00:35:06.239
<v Speaker 1>of off to the corn. That's a really good venue

515
00:35:06.280 --> 00:35:08.119
<v Speaker 1>for them to kind of get in between the parents

516
00:35:08.159 --> 00:35:10.360
<v Speaker 1>and the kid, which is exactly what he did. So

517
00:35:11.199 --> 00:35:13.880
<v Speaker 1>when he told me that he would be there, that

518
00:35:14.119 --> 00:35:15.719
<v Speaker 1>was like I really look at that as sort of

519
00:35:15.800 --> 00:35:19.039
<v Speaker 1>the end of my whole childhood because from that moment on,

520
00:35:19.119 --> 00:35:20.840
<v Speaker 1>it's like it doesn't matter whether I'm going on a

521
00:35:20.920 --> 00:35:23.079
<v Speaker 1>hike with my family or a camping trip, or whether

522
00:35:23.119 --> 00:35:25.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm at school, there's always a part of me that's like,

523
00:35:25.440 --> 00:35:28.639
<v Speaker 1>where is he going to be? It's that scary sort

524
00:35:28.679 --> 00:35:31.239
<v Speaker 1>of he's all around and could be anywhere at any

525
00:35:31.280 --> 00:35:33.559
<v Speaker 1>point type of thing which drives you nuts when you're

526
00:35:33.559 --> 00:35:36.360
<v Speaker 1>in this kind of a situation. So that's when he

527
00:35:36.400 --> 00:35:41.199
<v Speaker 1>started systematically without my parents' knowledge, taking me places, like

528
00:35:41.280 --> 00:35:43.519
<v Speaker 1>he'd take me from dance class. Sometimes he takes me

529
00:35:43.599 --> 00:35:46.559
<v Speaker 1>from school. And we have to understand too. When I

530
00:35:46.599 --> 00:35:48.280
<v Speaker 1>went to school, it was not like it is now.

531
00:35:48.480 --> 00:35:50.599
<v Speaker 1>You don't have to you didn't have to like take

532
00:35:50.719 --> 00:35:54.840
<v Speaker 1>pictures of people who could pick your kid up. Nobody

533
00:35:54.920 --> 00:35:57.119
<v Speaker 1>knew about this stuff, especially not in the bigger cities.

534
00:35:57.119 --> 00:35:59.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean, everything hits rural towns like five years too later,

535
00:36:00.079 --> 00:36:03.199
<v Speaker 1>ten years too late, So nobody really thought that this

536
00:36:03.360 --> 00:36:06.039
<v Speaker 1>was a possibility. And so what would happen is he

537
00:36:06.119 --> 00:36:09.320
<v Speaker 1>sent me to school after the first time, of course,

538
00:36:09.400 --> 00:36:11.760
<v Speaker 1>of like just calling the school and saying Tilney's to

539
00:36:11.800 --> 00:36:14.679
<v Speaker 1>meet us outside, and then me walking outside having a

540
00:36:14.719 --> 00:36:17.599
<v Speaker 1>beIN there instead of my parents, he would send me

541
00:36:17.639 --> 00:36:20.960
<v Speaker 1>to school in my lunch box with these notes written

542
00:36:21.000 --> 00:36:22.760
<v Speaker 1>from my parents that I was to hand in after

543
00:36:22.840 --> 00:36:26.679
<v Speaker 1>they took role, and they would say, tilneys to come

544
00:36:26.760 --> 00:36:29.039
<v Speaker 1>to gymnastics class or something, and we're going to pick

545
00:36:29.039 --> 00:36:32.960
<v Speaker 1>her up at this time. And my little elementary school

546
00:36:33.199 --> 00:36:37.079
<v Speaker 1>was on the grounds of a college campus. Edith Bowen

547
00:36:37.199 --> 00:36:40.199
<v Speaker 1>was where I went to, and so they couldn't monitor

548
00:36:40.519 --> 00:36:42.840
<v Speaker 1>like where people were or weren't. There's adults all the

549
00:36:42.920 --> 00:36:45.000
<v Speaker 1>time wandering in and out of the children because it

550
00:36:45.119 --> 00:36:47.880
<v Speaker 1>was on a college campus, so it wasn't like there

551
00:36:47.880 --> 00:36:49.840
<v Speaker 1>would be any red flags if there was a random

552
00:36:49.920 --> 00:36:53.760
<v Speaker 1>person that showed up. And so he would say park

553
00:36:53.840 --> 00:36:55.960
<v Speaker 1>his truck and then I would get out, and they'd

554
00:36:55.960 --> 00:36:57.360
<v Speaker 1>be like, g you need someone walk you out. I'd

555
00:36:57.360 --> 00:36:59.079
<v Speaker 1>say no, and so I'd go out and I'd get

556
00:36:59.119 --> 00:37:00.880
<v Speaker 1>in his car and then he have me gone for

557
00:37:00.960 --> 00:37:03.519
<v Speaker 1>the whole day and then bring me back and drop

558
00:37:03.599 --> 00:37:06.039
<v Speaker 1>me off before my parents would pick me up. So

559
00:37:06.159 --> 00:37:07.719
<v Speaker 1>that was a routine that went on for a while.

560
00:37:07.760 --> 00:37:09.840
<v Speaker 1>Then he stole me out of bed a few times

561
00:37:09.880 --> 00:37:12.599
<v Speaker 1>as well. Before he trained me to wake up, which

562
00:37:12.840 --> 00:37:14.719
<v Speaker 1>was quite easy for him to do. He just employed

563
00:37:14.800 --> 00:37:18.400
<v Speaker 1>like your basic pav laws response stuff. So I would

564
00:37:18.440 --> 00:37:20.320
<v Speaker 1>wake up three twenty two am, walk out to the

565
00:37:20.400 --> 00:37:23.320
<v Speaker 1>end of the driveway and he'd pick me up and

566
00:37:23.360 --> 00:37:27.559
<v Speaker 1>we'd go do these cult rituals. So this is so

567
00:37:27.840 --> 00:37:31.000
<v Speaker 1>I'll explain this person. The context of my childhood isn't

568
00:37:31.000 --> 00:37:33.400
<v Speaker 1>going to make sense unless I do that. Because the

569
00:37:33.880 --> 00:37:36.480
<v Speaker 1>particular man who was what they call my keeper in

570
00:37:36.599 --> 00:37:40.800
<v Speaker 1>this group had multiple personality issues, like big ones where

571
00:37:40.880 --> 00:37:42.440
<v Speaker 1>one minute you'd call him by one name and he

572
00:37:42.480 --> 00:37:45.239
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't even know who you were talking to, you know,

573
00:37:45.400 --> 00:37:48.199
<v Speaker 1>and then he'd have these So basically he had these

574
00:37:50.199 --> 00:37:53.599
<v Speaker 1>like a personality which I would often call Doc, who

575
00:37:53.719 --> 00:37:55.639
<v Speaker 1>was like the all knowing, the one that most people

576
00:37:55.719 --> 00:38:00.000
<v Speaker 1>in the society saw. And he was like a really educated,

577
00:38:00.000 --> 00:38:03.280
<v Speaker 1>he super charismatic or typical sociopath type of a person

578
00:38:03.320 --> 00:38:05.679
<v Speaker 1>who could have just pulled one on anybody. He was

579
00:38:05.760 --> 00:38:10.159
<v Speaker 1>really friendly, really charming, super handsome, So that was that personality.

580
00:38:10.199 --> 00:38:15.079
<v Speaker 1>The other personality, which he called eggnever ironically, was like

581
00:38:15.480 --> 00:38:18.880
<v Speaker 1>super evil and was part of these satanic groups. So

582
00:38:19.639 --> 00:38:21.840
<v Speaker 1>here we have this dichotomy. So you've got the multiple

583
00:38:21.840 --> 00:38:25.960
<v Speaker 1>personalities with this person. And depending on which personality he had,

584
00:38:26.079 --> 00:38:29.320
<v Speaker 1>he belonged to this group or this group. He belonged

585
00:38:29.360 --> 00:38:33.280
<v Speaker 1>to two cults. One cult was that satanic cult. The

586
00:38:33.360 --> 00:38:36.400
<v Speaker 1>other cult was the Blood Covenant Cult. Now it gets

587
00:38:36.440 --> 00:38:38.760
<v Speaker 1>ironic is that they're against each other. This is where

588
00:38:38.960 --> 00:38:41.039
<v Speaker 1>if you really want to know about some messed up

589
00:38:41.079 --> 00:38:43.079
<v Speaker 1>stuff that happens when you're too bored in a rural

590
00:38:43.159 --> 00:38:48.320
<v Speaker 1>town and have some issues, the Blood Covenant Cult doesn't

591
00:38:48.360 --> 00:38:49.440
<v Speaker 1>take the opinion.

592
00:38:50.800 --> 00:38:53.039
<v Speaker 2>Now, this shit is what I'm talking about. You know,

593
00:38:53.199 --> 00:38:58.840
<v Speaker 2>when people are lying, this story seems to like feel

594
00:38:58.920 --> 00:39:02.719
<v Speaker 2>scripted and shit. And this is a lot of detail, right,

595
00:39:03.800 --> 00:39:06.519
<v Speaker 2>he would have had split personality, and he belonged to

596
00:39:06.599 --> 00:39:09.719
<v Speaker 2>two Warren Colts, and he was this guy to this

597
00:39:09.920 --> 00:39:12.519
<v Speaker 2>cult and this guy to this I mean, it's getting

598
00:39:12.559 --> 00:39:16.199
<v Speaker 2>at the horseback riding and stuff, the notes for this

599
00:39:16.840 --> 00:39:20.199
<v Speaker 2>to get out of school and stuff. It does seem

600
00:39:20.320 --> 00:39:26.280
<v Speaker 2>a little detailed and specific. So I'm gonna say points

601
00:39:26.519 --> 00:39:32.880
<v Speaker 2>towards the truth on this, points towards her being a fake,

602
00:39:33.400 --> 00:39:39.760
<v Speaker 2>staged porn star, couchy rubs selling psychotic woman the name

603
00:39:39.960 --> 00:39:44.840
<v Speaker 2>Teal Swan. She's got horrible extensions in right now, some

604
00:39:45.119 --> 00:39:50.519
<v Speaker 2>kind of Pirates of the Caribbean shirt on wherever she's

605
00:39:50.599 --> 00:39:52.960
<v Speaker 2>at right now is giving me the creeps. Why would

606
00:39:53.000 --> 00:39:55.599
<v Speaker 2>you paint all your walls white like this, have a

607
00:39:55.719 --> 00:39:59.400
<v Speaker 2>random two by four in the background in some grandma desk.

608
00:40:00.360 --> 00:40:04.840
<v Speaker 2>They need work on their background. But let's continue and turn.

609
00:40:04.760 --> 00:40:07.800
<v Speaker 1>The other cheek. They don't agree with that. What they

610
00:40:07.880 --> 00:40:09.679
<v Speaker 1>believe is that it's your direct job to rid the

611
00:40:09.719 --> 00:40:13.280
<v Speaker 1>earth of evil. So they're aware that there are Satanic

612
00:40:13.360 --> 00:40:16.000
<v Speaker 1>groups that operate in the towns that they're living in.

613
00:40:16.320 --> 00:40:18.760
<v Speaker 1>So what they do is they use somebody that's part

614
00:40:18.800 --> 00:40:20.920
<v Speaker 1>of the group to infiltrate the Satanic group so that

615
00:40:21.039 --> 00:40:25.039
<v Speaker 1>they can hold counter rituals. So let's say that and

616
00:40:25.159 --> 00:40:28.480
<v Speaker 1>Satanic people have, like if you look at their calendar year,

617
00:40:28.679 --> 00:40:31.840
<v Speaker 1>it's at least once or twice a month they have

618
00:40:32.519 --> 00:40:35.159
<v Speaker 1>some kind of holiday. So what they'll do say if

619
00:40:35.159 --> 00:40:37.960
<v Speaker 1>they have like a black Sabbath day, is that they

620
00:40:38.199 --> 00:40:40.800
<v Speaker 1>the next day, the Blood Covenant group will will like

621
00:40:40.960 --> 00:40:43.039
<v Speaker 1>hold it return back to the Light of Christ type

622
00:40:43.039 --> 00:40:47.840
<v Speaker 1>of ritual. So and it's like here you have mainstream

623
00:40:47.880 --> 00:40:51.320
<v Speaker 1>Mormonism and mainstream society, and they're completely unaware of these

624
00:40:51.360 --> 00:40:54.000
<v Speaker 1>things that are happening on the undercurrent here of these

625
00:40:54.039 --> 00:40:56.800
<v Speaker 1>two rival groups basically that are more than aware of

626
00:40:56.840 --> 00:41:02.159
<v Speaker 1>each other. So the man I was with was attending

627
00:41:02.239 --> 00:41:06.119
<v Speaker 1>both of these ceremonies, but saying to the Blood Covenant

628
00:41:06.159 --> 00:41:09.480
<v Speaker 1>group that he was just doing the Satanic Group stuff

629
00:41:09.519 --> 00:41:12.199
<v Speaker 1>for the sake of holding counter riginals. So they're like, okay, good, yeah,

630
00:41:12.280 --> 00:41:14.360
<v Speaker 1>you can continue to do that because it benefits us.

631
00:41:14.960 --> 00:41:18.320
<v Speaker 1>But from my perspective, he actually liked that and was

632
00:41:18.400 --> 00:41:22.360
<v Speaker 1>really participating with it. So that's where it got super complicated.

633
00:41:23.280 --> 00:41:25.199
<v Speaker 1>But over the course of so that was when I

634
00:41:25.280 --> 00:41:27.639
<v Speaker 1>was six, it was when I was infiltrating. I infiltrated

635
00:41:27.679 --> 00:41:30.119
<v Speaker 1>these groups with him. He was using me in the

636
00:41:30.159 --> 00:41:32.360
<v Speaker 1>Satanic Group as look at her abilities. She's got all

637
00:41:32.360 --> 00:41:35.599
<v Speaker 1>these amazing abilities. You can use them to invoke the

638
00:41:35.679 --> 00:41:38.760
<v Speaker 1>devil and demons and things like that. And then simultaneously

639
00:41:38.800 --> 00:41:42.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm getting like tortured by the Blood Covenant group because

640
00:41:42.599 --> 00:41:44.639
<v Speaker 1>it was their idea that they could get the demon

641
00:41:44.679 --> 00:41:46.840
<v Speaker 1>out of me. That was their whole philosophy. The reason

642
00:41:46.880 --> 00:41:48.519
<v Speaker 1>that I could do this stuff is that my body

643
00:41:49.159 --> 00:41:52.239
<v Speaker 1>was taken over by a demon and that when I

644
00:41:52.440 --> 00:41:54.960
<v Speaker 1>was two, I kicked that spirit out and I took

645
00:41:55.000 --> 00:41:57.159
<v Speaker 1>it over it basically, and that if they could get

646
00:41:57.239 --> 00:41:59.800
<v Speaker 1>this demon out, that that spirit would come back. That

647
00:41:59.880 --> 00:42:02.760
<v Speaker 1>was the whole thing. So they went to work like

648
00:42:03.000 --> 00:42:06.119
<v Speaker 1>bleeding me, doing all kinds of horrific stuff to try

649
00:42:06.159 --> 00:42:09.239
<v Speaker 1>to get me to come back to Christ. So my

650
00:42:09.400 --> 00:42:13.679
<v Speaker 1>childhood from age what I consider six, even though technically

651
00:42:13.679 --> 00:42:16.039
<v Speaker 1>it started beforehand, but it was when I really consider

652
00:42:16.719 --> 00:42:18.320
<v Speaker 1>like the end of my childhood, when I got brought

653
00:42:18.360 --> 00:42:20.559
<v Speaker 1>into them and I really didn't belong to my parents anymore.

654
00:42:21.159 --> 00:42:23.280
<v Speaker 1>All the way to nineteen, I was with these groups,

655
00:42:23.360 --> 00:42:26.679
<v Speaker 1>and specifically with this man. Now, when you are part

656
00:42:26.719 --> 00:42:29.199
<v Speaker 1>of a lot of these groups, and now we're talking

657
00:42:29.280 --> 00:42:33.840
<v Speaker 1>Satanic specifically, what they'll do is they'll assign somebody like me.

658
00:42:34.000 --> 00:42:37.000
<v Speaker 1>They call me an oracle. An oracles is a role

659
00:42:37.079 --> 00:42:41.159
<v Speaker 1>where somebody has the ability to access the underworld or whatever.

660
00:42:42.039 --> 00:42:45.519
<v Speaker 1>So we oracles are not actually allowed to take care

661
00:42:45.559 --> 00:42:48.920
<v Speaker 1>of ourselves at all. Now, having grown up, I can

662
00:42:48.960 --> 00:42:50.760
<v Speaker 1>see that this is just a ploy, of course, to

663
00:42:50.840 --> 00:42:54.239
<v Speaker 1>keep us completely dependent, unable to leave. But we are

664
00:42:54.280 --> 00:42:56.239
<v Speaker 1>not able to cook for ourselves, we're not able to

665
00:42:56.280 --> 00:42:58.400
<v Speaker 1>clean for ourselves, we're not able to do any self

666
00:42:58.480 --> 00:43:01.519
<v Speaker 1>care type of behavior. Instead assigned a keeper. Of course,

667
00:43:01.559 --> 00:43:03.039
<v Speaker 1>it was obvious, let's just give her to the person

668
00:43:03.039 --> 00:43:05.559
<v Speaker 1>who brought her to us, right, which is this particular guy.

669
00:43:06.880 --> 00:43:10.960
<v Speaker 1>And he becomes the keeper role. So his job is

670
00:43:11.000 --> 00:43:12.639
<v Speaker 1>to make sure that I am where I'm supposed to be.

671
00:43:12.760 --> 00:43:14.719
<v Speaker 1>He's the one driving me, he's the one feeding me.

672
00:43:14.800 --> 00:43:17.000
<v Speaker 1>He's the one that's making sure things are the way

673
00:43:17.039 --> 00:43:19.400
<v Speaker 1>they are now. The reason that my childhood is a

674
00:43:19.440 --> 00:43:21.639
<v Speaker 1>lot more complicated than most is because I didn't get

675
00:43:21.679 --> 00:43:24.320
<v Speaker 1>outright taken away from my parents and kept somewhere without

676
00:43:24.360 --> 00:43:28.360
<v Speaker 1>their knowledge. What happened is that he ended up when

677
00:43:28.400 --> 00:43:30.119
<v Speaker 1>I the older that I got. When I was eight

678
00:43:30.199 --> 00:43:31.920
<v Speaker 1>years old, my parents decided to get me a horse.

679
00:43:31.960 --> 00:43:34.079
<v Speaker 1>So there was his perfect opportunity to come into the

680
00:43:34.159 --> 00:43:37.559
<v Speaker 1>family and like really weasel his way in there so

681
00:43:37.639 --> 00:43:41.280
<v Speaker 1>that knowledgeably they would give me to him. Basically, he

682
00:43:41.519 --> 00:43:44.199
<v Speaker 1>was like, okay, I'll be your vet for your horse,

683
00:43:44.320 --> 00:43:46.360
<v Speaker 1>and I'll teach her everything she needs to know about horses.

684
00:43:46.440 --> 00:43:48.480
<v Speaker 1>And my parents, you know, in their defense, they were like,

685
00:43:48.800 --> 00:43:50.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what to do with this kid. She's

686
00:43:50.320 --> 00:43:53.559
<v Speaker 1>obviously miserable. We have no idea why she's got these abilities.

687
00:43:53.639 --> 00:43:56.840
<v Speaker 1>We don't understand, we don't really relate to her, and

688
00:43:57.000 --> 00:43:59.280
<v Speaker 1>so if we can find somebody that could help her

689
00:43:59.360 --> 00:44:03.400
<v Speaker 1>with something, then let's just do that. And so thinking

690
00:44:03.480 --> 00:44:06.480
<v Speaker 1>that it would be like a mentorship. They allowed me

691
00:44:06.559 --> 00:44:08.840
<v Speaker 1>to go on weekends with him up to his house

692
00:44:09.519 --> 00:44:12.920
<v Speaker 1>or on rounds during the day, stuff like that, thinking

693
00:44:13.280 --> 00:44:15.440
<v Speaker 1>the whole time that you know, at least somebody knows

694
00:44:15.480 --> 00:44:18.199
<v Speaker 1>how to help her. But he was creating the very

695
00:44:18.239 --> 00:44:21.880
<v Speaker 1>condition that he said that he was solving. Basically, yeah,

696
00:44:22.079 --> 00:44:23.920
<v Speaker 1>so that's that's how we'll start. I don't know what

697
00:44:23.960 --> 00:44:25.559
<v Speaker 1>else to say. This is the sort of issues they're like,

698
00:44:25.599 --> 00:44:28.559
<v Speaker 1>there's so many details you're going over like thirteen years

699
00:44:28.679 --> 00:44:33.920
<v Speaker 1>basically of really horror like shit. There's so many, so

700
00:44:34.039 --> 00:44:36.119
<v Speaker 1>many things that happened. It's like hard for me to

701
00:44:36.159 --> 00:44:38.039
<v Speaker 1>know exactly which ones people want to hear about and

702
00:44:38.840 --> 00:44:40.239
<v Speaker 1>chronologically lay them out.

703
00:44:40.159 --> 00:44:43.239
<v Speaker 4>So you can keep going, I mean all the way

704
00:44:43.280 --> 00:44:45.840
<v Speaker 4>upstrough when you got out and whatever you're comfortable talking about.

705
00:44:46.039 --> 00:44:47.800
<v Speaker 4>I know you said that he took you to his house,

706
00:44:47.880 --> 00:44:50.119
<v Speaker 4>when what I mean, what sort of things were happening there?

707
00:44:50.599 --> 00:44:53.119
<v Speaker 1>Well, first time I went to his house, my parents

708
00:44:53.199 --> 00:44:54.559
<v Speaker 1>llowed me go my first time when I was eight

709
00:44:54.639 --> 00:44:57.000
<v Speaker 1>years old with my horse. So we went up to

710
00:44:57.079 --> 00:44:58.960
<v Speaker 1>his house and it was a super rainy day and

711
00:45:00.079 --> 00:45:03.239
<v Speaker 1>we ended up that night going on this horse ride

712
00:45:03.400 --> 00:45:05.760
<v Speaker 1>in the rain, and he was training these two horses,

713
00:45:05.880 --> 00:45:11.159
<v Speaker 1>and he was super sadistic, like really really sadistic, So

714
00:45:12.760 --> 00:45:15.159
<v Speaker 1>he thought it was super funny. Even though I was petrified,

715
00:45:15.159 --> 00:45:16.840
<v Speaker 1>even though it was a horse freak, I was super

716
00:45:16.880 --> 00:45:20.719
<v Speaker 1>petrified at that age of like horses being so small.

717
00:45:21.239 --> 00:45:22.960
<v Speaker 1>So I was riding this horse that I had just

718
00:45:23.039 --> 00:45:25.280
<v Speaker 1>barely got for my birthday for the very first time,

719
00:45:25.719 --> 00:45:29.800
<v Speaker 1>and he had this super insane horse that was just

720
00:45:29.880 --> 00:45:32.440
<v Speaker 1>barely being trained, who was a twin And with twin horses,

721
00:45:32.480 --> 00:45:35.000
<v Speaker 1>if you separate the mount basically they throw fits and

722
00:45:35.039 --> 00:45:36.360
<v Speaker 1>they try to get back to the other one. So

723
00:45:36.760 --> 00:45:39.159
<v Speaker 1>he thought it was super funny to like let it

724
00:45:39.320 --> 00:45:41.639
<v Speaker 1>go and let it run up on the back of

725
00:45:41.719 --> 00:45:45.000
<v Speaker 1>my horse. So when he did that, my horse steps

726
00:45:45.039 --> 00:45:47.639
<v Speaker 1>over this embankment, which is like this huge drop off,

727
00:45:47.719 --> 00:45:50.599
<v Speaker 1>and I had this enormous horse fall basically where I

728
00:45:50.719 --> 00:45:53.719
<v Speaker 1>fell down this embankment and looked up to watch my

729
00:45:53.800 --> 00:45:57.760
<v Speaker 1>horse fall back over onto her back into a somersault backwards,

730
00:45:58.239 --> 00:46:00.679
<v Speaker 1>and of course he calms down, he starts yelling. He

731
00:46:00.800 --> 00:46:03.239
<v Speaker 1>was a real sort of Western Bravado type of a person.

732
00:46:03.320 --> 00:46:06.039
<v Speaker 1>There was no gentleness about him at all. So he

733
00:46:06.119 --> 00:46:08.800
<v Speaker 1>stood over me, and he was like, you get back

734
00:46:08.840 --> 00:46:11.880
<v Speaker 1>on that horse right now. I'm shivering, the horse is shaking.

735
00:46:11.920 --> 00:46:14.360
<v Speaker 1>I feel paralyzed. Can't do it. Because I didn't do it,

736
00:46:14.480 --> 00:46:15.760
<v Speaker 1>he threw me down on the floor and then he

737
00:46:15.840 --> 00:46:18.440
<v Speaker 1>stepped on both of my arms and actually ended up

738
00:46:18.480 --> 00:46:22.400
<v Speaker 1>paarline fracturing them. So I ended up getting me back

739
00:46:22.440 --> 00:46:25.000
<v Speaker 1>on my horse rode to the house. Later that night

740
00:46:25.079 --> 00:46:27.239
<v Speaker 1>he ended up raping me. He had a wife, ironically,

741
00:46:27.280 --> 00:46:29.079
<v Speaker 1>who was not there then I have no idea where

742
00:46:29.079 --> 00:46:31.400
<v Speaker 1>he was. And then as punishment, I was put down

743
00:46:31.440 --> 00:46:34.920
<v Speaker 1>in the basement, which was like this little cement It

744
00:46:35.079 --> 00:46:37.440
<v Speaker 1>was like a cellar. It's just a cement part of

745
00:46:37.480 --> 00:46:42.559
<v Speaker 1>his house basically, and like it was common for him

746
00:46:42.599 --> 00:46:45.719
<v Speaker 1>not to let me do normal things like sleep in beds.

747
00:46:45.800 --> 00:46:48.400
<v Speaker 1>My place that I could sleep was in the bathtub

748
00:46:48.639 --> 00:46:51.000
<v Speaker 1>with no blankets, and he would make me eat out

749
00:46:51.039 --> 00:46:53.159
<v Speaker 1>of the dog bulls and drink out of the dog bulls.

750
00:46:53.559 --> 00:46:56.159
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't allowed to pee or anything inside. I had

751
00:46:56.199 --> 00:46:56.960
<v Speaker 1>to go outside for that.

752
00:46:57.519 --> 00:46:58.519
<v Speaker 4>So that was that.

753
00:47:00.239 --> 00:47:00.559
<v Speaker 6>That day.

754
00:47:00.679 --> 00:47:03.360
<v Speaker 1>When I went up there first too, he ended up

755
00:47:03.400 --> 00:47:05.840
<v Speaker 1>showing me these polaroid pictures, which is where it got

756
00:47:05.880 --> 00:47:11.920
<v Speaker 1>really creepy. So this man actually killed children. And what

757
00:47:12.079 --> 00:47:13.880
<v Speaker 1>he would do in his drawer of his office is

758
00:47:13.960 --> 00:47:18.199
<v Speaker 1>he kept a polaroid camera and with every kid that

759
00:47:18.320 --> 00:47:22.039
<v Speaker 1>he killed, he would keep a stack of the exact

760
00:47:22.119 --> 00:47:25.239
<v Speaker 1>same positions that he would take a picture of every

761
00:47:25.320 --> 00:47:27.480
<v Speaker 1>kid in So one of them was like you had

762
00:47:27.519 --> 00:47:29.559
<v Speaker 1>to be looking at the camera with your eyes up

763
00:47:29.679 --> 00:47:31.079
<v Speaker 1>like that because he liked the whites of the eyes

764
00:47:31.079 --> 00:47:32.760
<v Speaker 1>because that looked super innocent. And then he'd take a

765
00:47:32.800 --> 00:47:35.960
<v Speaker 1>profile to both sides. Then he'd take a straight up

766
00:47:36.360 --> 00:47:38.960
<v Speaker 1>and then he would basically he take this stack of

767
00:47:39.119 --> 00:47:42.199
<v Speaker 1>polaroids and he'd keep them. So he walked me out

768
00:47:42.440 --> 00:47:44.920
<v Speaker 1>to the back and I didn't see this particular murder

769
00:47:45.000 --> 00:47:48.039
<v Speaker 1>take place like I saw other ones happen. But he

770
00:47:48.119 --> 00:47:50.880
<v Speaker 1>took me out to his back place, and he had

771
00:47:50.880 --> 00:47:54.039
<v Speaker 1>a lawn that sort of abutted this enormous wilderness and

772
00:47:55.159 --> 00:47:58.360
<v Speaker 1>there was like a piece of earth was obviously dug up,

773
00:47:58.559 --> 00:48:02.239
<v Speaker 1>and he gave me this polaroid stack of pictures of

774
00:48:02.360 --> 00:48:04.920
<v Speaker 1>this little like I would say, I would probably guess

775
00:48:05.000 --> 00:48:06.920
<v Speaker 1>she was a five year old like little blonde girl.

776
00:48:07.719 --> 00:48:10.639
<v Speaker 1>They told me basically that he was keeping her safe.

777
00:48:10.760 --> 00:48:12.800
<v Speaker 1>This is where it is. So that was his dysfunction.

778
00:48:12.920 --> 00:48:16.360
<v Speaker 1>His dysfunction was basically that by having these kids, especially girls,

779
00:48:17.159 --> 00:48:20.599
<v Speaker 1>in his property, that he could keep from safe that way.

780
00:48:21.199 --> 00:48:23.880
<v Speaker 1>And so I'm sitting there looking at this picture, looking

781
00:48:23.920 --> 00:48:26.880
<v Speaker 1>at the grave, looking at the picture. Now, I can't

782
00:48:26.960 --> 00:48:28.679
<v Speaker 1>tell you that I know for a fact she was there,

783
00:48:28.719 --> 00:48:31.320
<v Speaker 1>because I didn't witness it, but having seen him kill

784
00:48:31.320 --> 00:48:34.360
<v Speaker 1>other children after that, I have no reason to doubt

785
00:48:34.400 --> 00:48:36.159
<v Speaker 1>that that was. What I was seeing was basically these

786
00:48:36.199 --> 00:48:37.880
<v Speaker 1>polaroids of a kid he had killed and then buried

787
00:48:37.880 --> 00:48:42.719
<v Speaker 1>in his backyard. So yeah, that was my first really

788
00:48:42.800 --> 00:48:47.239
<v Speaker 1>lovely introduction to him. Then very quickly after that, he

789
00:48:47.360 --> 00:48:52.119
<v Speaker 1>started in with the intentional programming. So most people who

790
00:48:52.159 --> 00:48:54.920
<v Speaker 1>are part of these groups, they get into mental programming,

791
00:48:55.079 --> 00:48:59.559
<v Speaker 1>and most of the mental programming routines that they carry

792
00:48:59.599 --> 00:49:03.440
<v Speaker 1>out they have found from these documents, which are mostly

793
00:49:03.480 --> 00:49:05.880
<v Speaker 1>written in German. I don't know where they've gotten them.

794
00:49:06.320 --> 00:49:10.880
<v Speaker 1>But one of my first programming sessions was performed in

795
00:49:11.000 --> 00:49:14.039
<v Speaker 1>a veterinary office. I walked in there and it was

796
00:49:14.199 --> 00:49:17.800
<v Speaker 1>not just my keeper, it was also another guy who

797
00:49:18.480 --> 00:49:21.519
<v Speaker 1>had his face was covered in black mesh, like he

798
00:49:21.599 --> 00:49:23.519
<v Speaker 1>didn't want me to know who he was. Later, I

799
00:49:23.599 --> 00:49:25.719
<v Speaker 1>did meet him and know exactly who he was, because

800
00:49:26.000 --> 00:49:28.119
<v Speaker 1>the older you get in these groups, now suddenly you

801
00:49:28.239 --> 00:49:30.840
<v Speaker 1>become part of the perpetrator circle and you're now working

802
00:49:30.880 --> 00:49:34.920
<v Speaker 1>on younger children. So at that beginning, I didn't know

803
00:49:34.920 --> 00:49:37.039
<v Speaker 1>who he was, and he just had that black stocking,

804
00:49:37.119 --> 00:49:40.199
<v Speaker 1>and so what he was doing was a basic bonding program.

805
00:49:40.639 --> 00:49:43.639
<v Speaker 1>So if you look at these mental programming sessions that

806
00:49:43.719 --> 00:49:47.960
<v Speaker 1>they do on children, it's a very it seems complicated,

807
00:49:48.039 --> 00:49:50.920
<v Speaker 1>but it's actually more easy than it seems. So it's

808
00:49:51.039 --> 00:49:54.679
<v Speaker 1>basically a twelve program cycle. One of the very first

809
00:49:54.719 --> 00:49:57.360
<v Speaker 1>things you want to do programming a child is to

810
00:49:57.800 --> 00:50:00.760
<v Speaker 1>bond them to the perpetrator. So what you do is

811
00:50:00.800 --> 00:50:03.159
<v Speaker 1>you induce a trauma. So the way that they like

812
00:50:03.239 --> 00:50:05.400
<v Speaker 1>to do that is to use electric shocks, which is

813
00:50:05.440 --> 00:50:07.920
<v Speaker 1>super easy. You just buy a kit basically. So I

814
00:50:08.079 --> 00:50:10.760
<v Speaker 1>was sitting there that first day. They are putting these

815
00:50:11.280 --> 00:50:14.480
<v Speaker 1>white pads with a little gel underneath them all over

816
00:50:14.599 --> 00:50:17.039
<v Speaker 1>my body and then they turn on the electric shocks,

817
00:50:17.960 --> 00:50:20.800
<v Speaker 1>so you get traumatized. I pissed myself. It's like being

818
00:50:20.840 --> 00:50:23.519
<v Speaker 1>electrocute to this pretty much the most unbearable thing you

819
00:50:23.519 --> 00:50:26.360
<v Speaker 1>can imagine. So that induces the state of trauma in

820
00:50:26.440 --> 00:50:28.599
<v Speaker 1>the system. And then what this man was instructing the

821
00:50:28.639 --> 00:50:30.599
<v Speaker 1>guy to do is, you're not allowed to touch someone

822
00:50:30.719 --> 00:50:33.599
<v Speaker 1>like me who's being programmed if you're the perpetrator, unless

823
00:50:33.800 --> 00:50:36.119
<v Speaker 1>you're doing it to specifically bond to the person to you.

824
00:50:36.559 --> 00:50:38.199
<v Speaker 1>So the way you do that is by becoming in

825
00:50:38.320 --> 00:50:40.800
<v Speaker 1>like the savior. So the only point at which this

826
00:50:40.920 --> 00:50:43.599
<v Speaker 1>man was allowed to show me physical affection is when

827
00:50:44.199 --> 00:50:47.880
<v Speaker 1>I was in a state of trauma. So he induces

828
00:50:47.920 --> 00:50:50.840
<v Speaker 1>the trauma with that, and then he tells this guy

829
00:50:50.880 --> 00:50:54.280
<v Speaker 1>and my keeper to hold me. And it's like it's

830
00:50:54.320 --> 00:50:57.960
<v Speaker 1>a very bizarre sensation, even though this person is the

831
00:50:58.039 --> 00:51:02.559
<v Speaker 1>one that's traumatizing you. Simultaneously, it's like the relief feeling

832
00:51:02.639 --> 00:51:05.039
<v Speaker 1>you feel when somebody hugs you, regardless of who they are,

833
00:51:05.119 --> 00:51:06.960
<v Speaker 1>when you're going through that kind of trauma, it's like

834
00:51:07.079 --> 00:51:12.079
<v Speaker 1>this unbelievable chemical bond almost that goes on in your body.

835
00:51:12.159 --> 00:51:14.920
<v Speaker 1>So I remember that feeling of like intense relief and

836
00:51:15.039 --> 00:51:17.480
<v Speaker 1>just holding onto him after that was happening, and so

837
00:51:18.000 --> 00:51:22.280
<v Speaker 1>that really creates in the mind this circuitry where I

838
00:51:22.440 --> 00:51:25.239
<v Speaker 1>love this guy. This guy is the person I'm supposed

839
00:51:25.239 --> 00:51:29.400
<v Speaker 1>to follow around, and it's like it's we're past love

840
00:51:29.440 --> 00:51:32.280
<v Speaker 1>at this point. It's like an excessive type of dependence.

841
00:51:32.840 --> 00:51:35.320
<v Speaker 1>And you'll watch this a lot with victims who have

842
00:51:35.360 --> 00:51:38.599
<v Speaker 1>been traumatized, and we deliberately in groups, will program for

843
00:51:38.760 --> 00:51:43.199
<v Speaker 1>it to create a scenario where the person is like

844
00:51:43.360 --> 00:51:46.280
<v Speaker 1>trauma bonded to the very person who's creating the issue.

845
00:51:46.360 --> 00:51:48.840
<v Speaker 1>You can observe this in animals even so, like you know,

846
00:51:48.920 --> 00:51:50.760
<v Speaker 1>the dog who gets kicked by their owner is like

847
00:51:50.880 --> 00:51:53.280
<v Speaker 1>the one who's underneath them wagging their tail, and they're

848
00:51:53.360 --> 00:51:55.960
<v Speaker 1>constantly obsessed with whether they're gonna get approval, whether they're

849
00:51:55.960 --> 00:51:59.159
<v Speaker 1>going to get approval. So, if your life rests in

850
00:51:59.239 --> 00:52:02.400
<v Speaker 1>somebody's hands, your life is going to be about one thing,

851
00:52:02.519 --> 00:52:04.480
<v Speaker 1>one thing only, and that's finding approval from that person.

852
00:52:05.400 --> 00:52:08.360
<v Speaker 1>It's it. So there you have trauma bonding. So my

853
00:52:08.519 --> 00:52:12.079
<v Speaker 1>relationship with this man from that point on turned to

854
00:52:12.239 --> 00:52:16.199
<v Speaker 1>this like excessive attachment. I was obsessed with getting his

855
00:52:16.239 --> 00:52:18.559
<v Speaker 1>approval no matter what, because my life is in his hands.

856
00:52:20.360 --> 00:52:23.239
<v Speaker 1>And then so we were attending rituals we're doing I mean,

857
00:52:23.280 --> 00:52:24.880
<v Speaker 1>he was doing messed up stuff with me on his own,

858
00:52:24.920 --> 00:52:29.119
<v Speaker 1>but we were attending rituals also, rituals where they did

859
00:52:29.440 --> 00:52:32.000
<v Speaker 1>murder children and animals. Animals was what they did, like

860
00:52:32.079 --> 00:52:34.920
<v Speaker 1>on your average holiday, but on the big ones, which

861
00:52:34.960 --> 00:52:37.519
<v Speaker 1>they call black masses, which is probably what the public

862
00:52:37.559 --> 00:52:40.360
<v Speaker 1>would like to know about most where. Basically, it's where

863
00:52:40.400 --> 00:52:43.840
<v Speaker 1>basically and it's just mostly Satanic people. These covens of

864
00:52:44.039 --> 00:52:48.039
<v Speaker 1>like thirteen usually because they believe in thirteen silver moons.

865
00:52:48.039 --> 00:52:49.800
<v Speaker 1>In a year, there's thirteen full moons, so it's usually

866
00:52:49.880 --> 00:52:53.960
<v Speaker 1>thirteen members of a Satanic coven. They'll get together with

867
00:52:54.119 --> 00:52:58.000
<v Speaker 1>other covens in the area for these big black masses

868
00:52:58.119 --> 00:53:01.039
<v Speaker 1>they call them, and those are on specific days throughout

869
00:53:01.039 --> 00:53:03.840
<v Speaker 1>the year. So on a few of those I watched

870
00:53:03.880 --> 00:53:06.320
<v Speaker 1>them actually kill children, and that's when we really got

871
00:53:06.360 --> 00:53:09.239
<v Speaker 1>into the human sacrifice them, which is what most people

872
00:53:09.280 --> 00:53:11.199
<v Speaker 1>want to interview me about, you know, because that's like

873
00:53:11.320 --> 00:53:14.079
<v Speaker 1>so abhorrent and most people can't even imagine that going on.

874
00:53:14.280 --> 00:53:17.719
<v Speaker 1>So when I got older, I found out how they

875
00:53:17.760 --> 00:53:19.960
<v Speaker 1>actually found these children. When I was younger, they would

876
00:53:20.039 --> 00:53:21.400
<v Speaker 1>use me and other kids who are part of the

877
00:53:21.440 --> 00:53:24.320
<v Speaker 1>groups to entice these children into the car. It's a

878
00:53:24.400 --> 00:53:28.079
<v Speaker 1>very stereotypical act. All you do is you case the neighborhood,

879
00:53:28.119 --> 00:53:30.440
<v Speaker 1>which is easy because they're bored and looking for ways

880
00:53:30.480 --> 00:53:34.679
<v Speaker 1>to excite themselves. And they're really statistic fetishes anyways, So

881
00:53:34.800 --> 00:53:37.159
<v Speaker 1>they case the neighborhoods for kids that are not being watched.

882
00:53:37.199 --> 00:53:40.920
<v Speaker 1>Their number one favorite group is children who are part

883
00:53:40.960 --> 00:53:44.679
<v Speaker 1>of the foster care system. So there's a loophole in

884
00:53:44.760 --> 00:53:48.480
<v Speaker 1>our foster care system in this United States and West specifically.

885
00:53:48.519 --> 00:53:50.519
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it's super bad out east, but

886
00:53:50.639 --> 00:53:53.639
<v Speaker 1>out West as a really bad loophole where basically, if

887
00:53:53.719 --> 00:53:56.119
<v Speaker 1>you want to foster children, because they're so overrun with

888
00:53:56.239 --> 00:53:58.239
<v Speaker 1>children to foster, then they'll give you the kid and

889
00:53:58.280 --> 00:54:00.280
<v Speaker 1>then you get your monthly STIF and check. And so

890
00:54:00.400 --> 00:54:03.199
<v Speaker 1>there was a lot of these families who especially in

891
00:54:03.239 --> 00:54:06.800
<v Speaker 1>the Idahoo area that I met, who they foster children,

892
00:54:06.840 --> 00:54:08.559
<v Speaker 1>not because they really want to foster children, but they

893
00:54:08.639 --> 00:54:12.519
<v Speaker 1>want that check every month. So these parents are it's

894
00:54:12.599 --> 00:54:14.639
<v Speaker 1>like really horrific they get these kids from the foster

895
00:54:14.760 --> 00:54:15.280
<v Speaker 1>care system.

896
00:54:15.679 --> 00:54:19.199
<v Speaker 2>This is some sick shit right here. Because I just

897
00:54:19.440 --> 00:54:22.559
<v Speaker 2>sold my I was selling a bunch of stuff on

898
00:54:23.239 --> 00:54:30.599
<v Speaker 2>Facebook marketplace right and I just sold my baby's crib

899
00:54:31.880 --> 00:54:36.119
<v Speaker 2>to this lady. She hit me up on Facebook. I

900
00:54:36.199 --> 00:54:40.079
<v Speaker 2>had it posted for like eighty bucks and she hit

901
00:54:40.159 --> 00:54:42.920
<v Speaker 2>me with this sob story, and you know, I got

902
00:54:43.000 --> 00:54:47.360
<v Speaker 2>a delicate heart, okay, you know, I was just not

903
00:54:47.559 --> 00:54:51.480
<v Speaker 2>in the mood to be hearing about this sad shit,

904
00:54:51.599 --> 00:54:55.800
<v Speaker 2>and it just killed me. She was like, I'm fostering

905
00:54:56.280 --> 00:55:02.719
<v Speaker 2>six four month old essentially what we would call crack babies,

906
00:55:03.599 --> 00:55:06.119
<v Speaker 2>and I just really need a crib. I'm feeding my

907
00:55:06.159 --> 00:55:10.559
<v Speaker 2>baby right now, his little bottle, a little sweetie, and

908
00:55:11.360 --> 00:55:15.599
<v Speaker 2>it just I was like, oh my god, this woman

909
00:55:16.760 --> 00:55:24.960
<v Speaker 2>is literally fostering six four month old little crackheaded babies

910
00:55:25.320 --> 00:55:27.800
<v Speaker 2>and she needs a crib. She said, I can have

911
00:55:27.960 --> 00:55:29.840
<v Speaker 2>my son come pick it up right now, would you

912
00:55:29.920 --> 00:55:34.719
<v Speaker 2>take fifty dollars? And I was like, of course, Like

913
00:55:34.880 --> 00:55:38.400
<v Speaker 2>that just broke my heart. And you want to think

914
00:55:39.880 --> 00:55:45.920
<v Speaker 2>that people who sign up for that stuff, okay, people

915
00:55:46.000 --> 00:55:52.159
<v Speaker 2>who would sign up for fostering six four month old

916
00:55:53.199 --> 00:55:58.239
<v Speaker 2>little crackheaded babies, they would be like a saint, like,

917
00:55:58.480 --> 00:56:02.840
<v Speaker 2>oh my god, how sel Flist's this person. I can

918
00:56:02.920 --> 00:56:06.639
<v Speaker 2>barely handle the one and he's not even crackheaded, okay,

919
00:56:07.559 --> 00:56:11.440
<v Speaker 2>And then you get to hear and stuff like this,

920
00:56:12.079 --> 00:56:18.199
<v Speaker 2>And I've heard other foster people, you know, foster kids

921
00:56:18.239 --> 00:56:24.119
<v Speaker 2>say this by their foster families were horrorball okay, horra baal.

922
00:56:24.960 --> 00:56:31.199
<v Speaker 2>And you know they don't be looking into who's fostering

923
00:56:31.320 --> 00:56:34.400
<v Speaker 2>these kids. I bet they don't even really do home

924
00:56:34.519 --> 00:56:38.199
<v Speaker 2>check ins and shit like that. They get their monthly

925
00:56:38.360 --> 00:56:45.719
<v Speaker 2>stipend okay for their fosters, and that's what they They

926
00:56:45.840 --> 00:56:49.039
<v Speaker 2>count on them, a little foster stipend checks to come

927
00:56:49.119 --> 00:56:53.599
<v Speaker 2>in and they'd be doing some nefarious shit because they

928
00:56:53.639 --> 00:56:57.280
<v Speaker 2>don't love. There's no way they could be loving these

929
00:56:57.400 --> 00:57:03.000
<v Speaker 2>kids like they were their own. Okay, it's not realistic

930
00:57:03.920 --> 00:57:08.639
<v Speaker 2>and it's a shame. That's really fucking fucked up and sad.

931
00:57:09.599 --> 00:57:12.239
<v Speaker 1>So they tell them I don't want to be watching you,

932
00:57:12.360 --> 00:57:13.960
<v Speaker 1>so just come home at eight o'clock, and I don't

933
00:57:13.960 --> 00:57:17.800
<v Speaker 1>want you to come home before eight o'clock. So they're

934
00:57:18.199 --> 00:57:21.159
<v Speaker 1>wandering around. They go to public school, and then between

935
00:57:21.239 --> 00:57:22.920
<v Speaker 1>when public school gets out at eight o'clock at night,

936
00:57:22.920 --> 00:57:25.119
<v Speaker 1>when they're supposed to be home, they are wandering around.

937
00:57:25.280 --> 00:57:28.079
<v Speaker 1>Basically they have nothing to do. And it's a prime

938
00:57:28.159 --> 00:57:30.840
<v Speaker 1>target for these groups because they find out these kids,

939
00:57:30.880 --> 00:57:33.039
<v Speaker 1>they know exactly where they're walking to and from school,

940
00:57:33.079 --> 00:57:34.440
<v Speaker 1>and then when they take them, this is where it

941
00:57:34.480 --> 00:57:37.079
<v Speaker 1>gets really super messed up. If you take one of

942
00:57:37.119 --> 00:57:41.000
<v Speaker 1>these foster kids. I'll back up. So the foster care people,

943
00:57:41.239 --> 00:57:43.920
<v Speaker 1>they check in on kids that are being fostered, right,

944
00:57:44.159 --> 00:57:48.159
<v Speaker 1>but their caseloads are huge as well. So even they'll

945
00:57:48.199 --> 00:57:50.800
<v Speaker 1>tell you we're really overrun. We can't get to everybody,

946
00:57:50.920 --> 00:57:53.599
<v Speaker 1>and like we try, but sometimes it's like once every

947
00:57:53.639 --> 00:57:55.880
<v Speaker 1>six months, once every year. So let's say that you're

948
00:57:55.920 --> 00:57:58.719
<v Speaker 1>one of these families that is just using that income

949
00:57:58.800 --> 00:58:00.960
<v Speaker 1>for the foster care kids to support your family, and

950
00:58:01.000 --> 00:58:03.039
<v Speaker 1>you don't want to lose that check. Now, if the

951
00:58:03.119 --> 00:58:06.960
<v Speaker 1>kid disappears bam, and you go and you tell someone,

952
00:58:07.880 --> 00:58:11.519
<v Speaker 1>then your monthly check's not gonna come. So a lot

953
00:58:11.559 --> 00:58:14.519
<v Speaker 1>of these kids that we're getting are from families like that,

954
00:58:14.639 --> 00:58:16.360
<v Speaker 1>where it's like if they disappeared, they're not gonna say

955
00:58:16.360 --> 00:58:18.480
<v Speaker 1>anything to the government. You're kidding me. They're gonna wait

956
00:58:18.480 --> 00:58:20.360
<v Speaker 1>to the last possible second to say, oh, well, I

957
00:58:20.360 --> 00:58:23.880
<v Speaker 1>don't know they ran away or something. So I mean,

958
00:58:23.920 --> 00:58:26.960
<v Speaker 1>if you look up at the statistics of the amount

959
00:58:27.039 --> 00:58:30.000
<v Speaker 1>of like runaway missing children that there are in this country,

960
00:58:30.079 --> 00:58:32.400
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna blow your mind. I mean children we never

961
00:58:32.440 --> 00:58:33.960
<v Speaker 1>find again, not kids that run away in then they

962
00:58:34.000 --> 00:58:35.920
<v Speaker 1>come back. We're talking kids that never show up again.

963
00:58:36.559 --> 00:58:39.639
<v Speaker 1>It's literally gonna blow your mind. So the fact that

964
00:58:39.760 --> 00:58:42.400
<v Speaker 1>the country is like, wow, how does anybody not notice?

965
00:58:42.440 --> 00:58:44.159
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I don't know. How did that mean? How

966
00:58:44.199 --> 00:58:46.599
<v Speaker 1>does that many thousands, hundreds of thousands of children go

967
00:58:46.639 --> 00:58:49.880
<v Speaker 1>missing every year and nobody knows? And then people are like, well,

968
00:58:49.920 --> 00:58:51.880
<v Speaker 1>how do people not hear these things happening? Have you

969
00:58:51.920 --> 00:58:54.519
<v Speaker 1>ever been to the Utah nightahole Welkerness, You can go

970
00:58:54.639 --> 00:58:56.559
<v Speaker 1>ten minutes off of the side of any road and

971
00:58:56.679 --> 00:59:00.400
<v Speaker 1>nobody will hear you ever again. So this is like

972
00:59:00.440 --> 00:59:02.599
<v Speaker 1>a really good window that people have here in this

973
00:59:02.800 --> 00:59:06.119
<v Speaker 1>particular state to get away with super deviant activity. Another

974
00:59:06.159 --> 00:59:10.159
<v Speaker 1>way that they like to find these children and procure

975
00:59:10.280 --> 00:59:13.559
<v Speaker 1>children is by going to the illegal immigrant communities. Those

976
00:59:13.599 --> 00:59:16.360
<v Speaker 1>are super easy to find. Anybody who wants to hire

977
00:59:16.480 --> 00:59:19.159
<v Speaker 1>somebody from home depot in the morning can figure out

978
00:59:19.159 --> 00:59:21.559
<v Speaker 1>how to find them. So what they do is they

979
00:59:21.639 --> 00:59:24.440
<v Speaker 1>follow those kids and they take those kids also. And

980
00:59:25.679 --> 00:59:29.199
<v Speaker 1>this is why they take those kids. If you're an

981
00:59:29.440 --> 00:59:32.840
<v Speaker 1>illegal immigrant and your children get taken or your child

982
00:59:33.360 --> 00:59:35.400
<v Speaker 1>and you go to the police office and you say

983
00:59:35.639 --> 00:59:39.360
<v Speaker 1>my kid is missing, they say give me your ID now.

984
00:59:39.400 --> 00:59:41.559
<v Speaker 1>If they find out that you're illegal, they will deport you.

985
00:59:42.159 --> 00:59:44.239
<v Speaker 1>So you have an option basically as a parent who's

986
00:59:44.280 --> 00:59:47.000
<v Speaker 1>lost a child inside this country, either you don't say

987
00:59:47.039 --> 00:59:49.719
<v Speaker 1>anything and you look by yourself for a kid that's missing,

988
00:59:50.280 --> 00:59:52.519
<v Speaker 1>or you get deported to an entirely different country than

989
00:59:52.519 --> 00:59:54.840
<v Speaker 1>the one that your kid is now missing in. So

990
00:59:55.960 --> 00:59:58.559
<v Speaker 1>obviously most parents opt to not say anything into search

991
00:59:58.599 --> 01:00:03.199
<v Speaker 1>by themselves. So that's basically the two biggest group ways

992
01:00:03.239 --> 01:00:06.280
<v Speaker 1>that they find these these children essentially that they take

993
01:00:06.480 --> 01:00:09.039
<v Speaker 1>and sometimes they'll kill them that night. Sometimes they will

994
01:00:09.119 --> 01:00:11.920
<v Speaker 1>keep them for months at a time, and they have

995
01:00:12.199 --> 01:00:13.840
<v Speaker 1>like a lot some of the members will have these

996
01:00:14.079 --> 01:00:16.760
<v Speaker 1>these lava tubes. So in Idaho they have lava tubes

997
01:00:16.800 --> 01:00:19.639
<v Speaker 1>all over the place. And so like on private land,

998
01:00:19.679 --> 01:00:22.360
<v Speaker 1>it's not uncommon to find something of as like a

999
01:00:22.440 --> 01:00:26.000
<v Speaker 1>sinkhole that's on the property. And so if it's a

1000
01:00:26.039 --> 01:00:28.519
<v Speaker 1>big enough sinkhole, then what they'll do is they'll keep

1001
01:00:28.559 --> 01:00:31.159
<v Speaker 1>these kids in there in animal cages, so just like

1002
01:00:31.199 --> 01:00:33.800
<v Speaker 1>the when you'd buy like a classic German shepherd or something,

1003
01:00:33.920 --> 01:00:36.480
<v Speaker 1>and they'll keep them in there for months, leading them

1004
01:00:36.559 --> 01:00:41.440
<v Speaker 1>up to these ritual ceremonies. So yeah, we were used

1005
01:00:41.480 --> 01:00:44.880
<v Speaker 1>for that, which is like Hellinis.

1006
01:00:46.360 --> 01:00:52.079
<v Speaker 4>You talked about you are keeper doing multiple things to you.

1007
01:00:52.360 --> 01:00:54.280
<v Speaker 4>He raped you, he kept you in the bathtub. What

1008
01:00:54.440 --> 01:00:55.280
<v Speaker 4>else did he do to you?

1009
01:00:56.199 --> 01:00:57.760
<v Speaker 1>His favorite things to do is to chase me through

1010
01:00:57.800 --> 01:01:00.320
<v Speaker 1>the woods. He was obsessed with survival stuff, and so

1011
01:01:00.519 --> 01:01:03.519
<v Speaker 1>he played these tracking games. He called them in retrospect,

1012
01:01:03.639 --> 01:01:05.119
<v Speaker 1>it's like the creepiest thing in the world to me.

1013
01:01:05.199 --> 01:01:06.760
<v Speaker 1>But when I was going through it, I was like, Oh,

1014
01:01:06.840 --> 01:01:08.320
<v Speaker 1>he's just doing this for my own good. He was

1015
01:01:08.360 --> 01:01:11.719
<v Speaker 1>teaching me how to escape demons by being completely untrackable.

1016
01:01:12.239 --> 01:01:15.679
<v Speaker 1>So so he would like, say he'd be driving and

1017
01:01:15.800 --> 01:01:18.400
<v Speaker 1>he'd just start counting. It was like he would switch

1018
01:01:18.400 --> 01:01:21.559
<v Speaker 1>into these different personalities sometimes, so he'd be driving and

1019
01:01:21.599 --> 01:01:26.880
<v Speaker 1>suddenly he'd be like twenty nineteen eighteen, he'd like pull

1020
01:01:26.920 --> 01:01:28.320
<v Speaker 1>over the side of the road. And that was my

1021
01:01:28.400 --> 01:01:30.000
<v Speaker 1>key that I was supposed to get out of the

1022
01:01:30.440 --> 01:01:34.079
<v Speaker 1>car and then run basically, and I was supposed to

1023
01:01:34.119 --> 01:01:36.440
<v Speaker 1>evade him. And so it was like for a timed

1024
01:01:36.559 --> 01:01:38.639
<v Speaker 1>period of like two or three hours, I would be

1025
01:01:38.840 --> 01:01:40.639
<v Speaker 1>trying to run away from him while he tracked me,

1026
01:01:41.360 --> 01:01:43.400
<v Speaker 1>and if he caught me, I would get punished. Like

1027
01:01:43.519 --> 01:01:47.239
<v Speaker 1>my rib cage is covered in these scars because he

1028
01:01:47.239 --> 01:01:50.039
<v Speaker 1>would count coup That was what he believed was some

1029
01:01:51.159 --> 01:01:54.559
<v Speaker 1>like what enemies in the I think as Native American

1030
01:01:54.599 --> 01:01:56.519
<v Speaker 1>cultures used to do, is they would count coup on

1031
01:01:56.719 --> 01:02:00.480
<v Speaker 1>somebody that they would triumph over. So I have slits

1032
01:02:00.519 --> 01:02:03.320
<v Speaker 1>in my ribcage from each time that he won. Essentially

1033
01:02:03.400 --> 01:02:05.800
<v Speaker 1>those tracking games and rape was also a part of that,

1034
01:02:05.880 --> 01:02:07.880
<v Speaker 1>but they didn't mind that as much as being like,

1035
01:02:08.480 --> 01:02:10.639
<v Speaker 1>you know, having a knife drawn across in my rib cage.

1036
01:02:11.559 --> 01:02:14.039
<v Speaker 1>And if I got away, then I would get rewarded

1037
01:02:14.079 --> 01:02:16.599
<v Speaker 1>either with a tutsie roll or with a lesson, because

1038
01:02:16.639 --> 01:02:18.840
<v Speaker 1>he liked to teach me things. So like if I

1039
01:02:18.920 --> 01:02:20.880
<v Speaker 1>got away from him and it was two hours had

1040
01:02:20.920 --> 01:02:22.639
<v Speaker 1>gone by and he hadn't found me, he would do

1041
01:02:22.719 --> 01:02:24.559
<v Speaker 1>a whistle and I would come back, and then he'd

1042
01:02:24.599 --> 01:02:27.719
<v Speaker 1>be like super congratulatory, and then he would teach me

1043
01:02:27.840 --> 01:02:30.239
<v Speaker 1>something about quantum physics, or teach me something about what

1044
01:02:30.360 --> 01:02:32.679
<v Speaker 1>herbs I could eat outdoors if I was ever in

1045
01:02:32.719 --> 01:02:36.880
<v Speaker 1>a survival situation, or he'd teached me an extra thing

1046
01:02:37.079 --> 01:02:39.360
<v Speaker 1>about how to cover my tracks so nobody knew where

1047
01:02:39.360 --> 01:02:43.840
<v Speaker 1>I was. So it's like back then, I got really

1048
01:02:43.840 --> 01:02:46.039
<v Speaker 1>proud of myself when I would get away from him

1049
01:02:47.039 --> 01:02:49.400
<v Speaker 1>instead of realizing that I was being chased through the

1050
01:02:49.400 --> 01:02:52.000
<v Speaker 1>woods by somebody who killed children, which is what the

1051
01:02:53.000 --> 01:02:59.519
<v Speaker 1>sort of reality is. Retrospects. Yeah, I don't even know

1052
01:02:59.559 --> 01:03:02.400
<v Speaker 1>what to do but laugh because it's like so messed up.

1053
01:03:03.519 --> 01:03:05.480
<v Speaker 4>How many children did you watch him kill?

1054
01:03:07.920 --> 01:03:11.639
<v Speaker 1>I can remember, well him specifically, not the group five.

1055
01:03:12.360 --> 01:03:15.079
<v Speaker 4>See you you physically watched him kill five? How many

1056
01:03:15.159 --> 01:03:16.519
<v Speaker 4>did the group did you witness?

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01:03:20.280 --> 01:03:24.119
<v Speaker 1>Probably seven over the course of my life, I think, Yeah,

1058
01:03:26.000 --> 01:03:26.920
<v Speaker 1>I haven't counted.

1059
01:03:26.679 --> 01:03:31.760
<v Speaker 4>Them exactly, but there were a significant amount. Yeah, And

1060
01:03:32.760 --> 01:03:35.320
<v Speaker 4>this wasn't just a we're going to shoot you and

1061
01:03:35.400 --> 01:03:35.800
<v Speaker 4>get it over.

1062
01:03:35.880 --> 01:03:37.000
<v Speaker 1>What there was pain.

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01:03:39.000 --> 01:03:40.280
<v Speaker 4>I mean, if you want to go into detail of

1064
01:03:40.280 --> 01:03:42.159
<v Speaker 4>how this happened, you're want to welcome to but talk

1065
01:03:42.199 --> 01:03:43.840
<v Speaker 4>to me a little bit about what you witnessed.

1066
01:03:45.920 --> 01:03:47.639
<v Speaker 1>Well. With him, it was always it was always the

1067
01:03:47.679 --> 01:03:50.280
<v Speaker 1>same scenario when he killed boys. I didn't watch him

1068
01:03:50.360 --> 01:03:53.320
<v Speaker 1>kill girls. I don't think, Yeah, I don't remember. So

1069
01:03:53.840 --> 01:03:57.320
<v Speaker 1>when I watched him killed boys, what it was is

1070
01:03:57.360 --> 01:03:58.559
<v Speaker 1>that he would get them off the side of the

1071
01:03:58.639 --> 01:04:00.239
<v Speaker 1>road and then he would bring them to a house

1072
01:04:00.320 --> 01:04:02.760
<v Speaker 1>or another location, and then he would have the boys

1073
01:04:03.039 --> 01:04:05.360
<v Speaker 1>kiss me. Almost like he was getting off, so he'd

1074
01:04:05.400 --> 01:04:07.039
<v Speaker 1>be jacking off all he was watching the little boy

1075
01:04:07.119 --> 01:04:09.079
<v Speaker 1>do whatever he was doing with me, and then it

1076
01:04:09.199 --> 01:04:11.280
<v Speaker 1>was like something would snap and he would go into

1077
01:04:11.320 --> 01:04:15.159
<v Speaker 1>this completely other mode of like jealousy, rage, and so

1078
01:04:15.360 --> 01:04:17.079
<v Speaker 1>as if he was mad that the boys were touching

1079
01:04:17.159 --> 01:04:18.679
<v Speaker 1>even though he was the one that told them to,

1080
01:04:19.039 --> 01:04:21.599
<v Speaker 1>he would grab them and like brutally beat them to death,

1081
01:04:21.719 --> 01:04:24.119
<v Speaker 1>or in one occasion, he hacked them to death with

1082
01:04:24.280 --> 01:04:30.280
<v Speaker 1>a small axe. That was him on his own. With

1083
01:04:30.400 --> 01:04:32.559
<v Speaker 1>the ritual group, they're not like that. It's not like

1084
01:04:32.639 --> 01:04:36.599
<v Speaker 1>a Hodgepodge emotionally induced type of the thing. It's more

1085
01:04:36.800 --> 01:04:38.880
<v Speaker 1>like what's creepy about the group is it's more like

1086
01:04:39.039 --> 01:04:41.880
<v Speaker 1>there's zero emotion involved in it, where their number one

1087
01:04:41.920 --> 01:04:44.440
<v Speaker 1>way is to do it on ritual bonfire. So they

1088
01:04:44.440 --> 01:04:46.920
<v Speaker 1>would have in like this black mass. I'll tell you

1089
01:04:46.960 --> 01:04:48.400
<v Speaker 1>one of them, because this is pretty much what it

1090
01:04:48.519 --> 01:04:51.159
<v Speaker 1>was like most of the time. So we were in

1091
01:04:51.280 --> 01:04:56.679
<v Speaker 1>Idaho wilderness right outside of this. I guess if you

1092
01:04:56.760 --> 01:04:59.559
<v Speaker 1>go from Preston, Idaho and you drive up this side canyon,

1093
01:05:00.360 --> 01:05:04.000
<v Speaker 1>you're in this huge aspen grove. And so we were

1094
01:05:04.159 --> 01:05:06.239
<v Speaker 1>up there probably five minutes walk from one of the

1095
01:05:06.280 --> 01:05:10.000
<v Speaker 1>main roads that was winding through that particular area, and

1096
01:05:11.760 --> 01:05:13.840
<v Speaker 1>we were all brought to this place where people were

1097
01:05:13.880 --> 01:05:17.360
<v Speaker 1>wearing these gold masks with like purple robes, and then

1098
01:05:17.360 --> 01:05:20.519
<v Speaker 1>some people were wearing black masks or blaming black robes

1099
01:05:20.559 --> 01:05:23.960
<v Speaker 1>with white masks. So they're all standing in this grove

1100
01:05:24.239 --> 01:05:26.159
<v Speaker 1>a lot more than just the coven that I had

1101
01:05:26.199 --> 01:05:29.880
<v Speaker 1>been introduced to. It was probably three or four covens,

1102
01:05:29.920 --> 01:05:32.199
<v Speaker 1>so I would say in total, probably forty something people

1103
01:05:32.239 --> 01:05:35.679
<v Speaker 1>were at this particular gathering. So we're standing there. They're

1104
01:05:35.760 --> 01:05:38.159
<v Speaker 1>doing like a chanting, so they're around the circle and

1105
01:05:38.280 --> 01:05:41.920
<v Speaker 1>they're reading I guess from Old Tide, no idea what

1106
01:05:42.039 --> 01:05:45.840
<v Speaker 1>language it was. Most of them didn't explain these types

1107
01:05:45.880 --> 01:05:46.960
<v Speaker 1>of things to me when I was a kid. I

1108
01:05:47.079 --> 01:05:50.639
<v Speaker 1>just was watching it. So I'm standing there and through

1109
01:05:50.679 --> 01:05:53.400
<v Speaker 1>the woods come these two men and they had like

1110
01:05:53.480 --> 01:05:55.679
<v Speaker 1>a pole kind of like you'd use for a tea peopole,

1111
01:05:56.440 --> 01:05:59.760
<v Speaker 1>and there was a little girl I'm guessing again she's

1112
01:05:59.760 --> 01:06:04.760
<v Speaker 1>probably five. She was super tiny. She was Mexican and oriented.

1113
01:06:04.760 --> 01:06:06.679
<v Speaker 1>I can tell because she had the dark skin and everything.

1114
01:06:07.159 --> 01:06:09.679
<v Speaker 1>So they had taken her and she was tied up,

1115
01:06:09.719 --> 01:06:12.199
<v Speaker 1>so they had put this tea peopole thing there, and

1116
01:06:12.280 --> 01:06:14.360
<v Speaker 1>then they tied her hands and her legs up to it,

1117
01:06:14.519 --> 01:06:17.400
<v Speaker 1>so it was like her face was facing down right

1118
01:06:18.159 --> 01:06:20.840
<v Speaker 1>and these two men were carrying her in towards this

1119
01:06:21.119 --> 01:06:23.920
<v Speaker 1>enormous fire that they had made. And to make a

1120
01:06:24.000 --> 01:06:26.000
<v Speaker 1>fire hot enough to burn a human body is like

1121
01:06:26.119 --> 01:06:27.599
<v Speaker 1>you have to make it really, really hot, So they

1122
01:06:27.679 --> 01:06:29.639
<v Speaker 1>had to be burning it probably since the morning, way

1123
01:06:29.679 --> 01:06:32.480
<v Speaker 1>before I ever got there. But they ended up doing

1124
01:06:32.559 --> 01:06:34.760
<v Speaker 1>a ritual with her, and then they just picked her

1125
01:06:34.840 --> 01:06:36.320
<v Speaker 1>up and put her right down over the top of

1126
01:06:36.360 --> 01:06:39.679
<v Speaker 1>the fire. It is one of the most perfect things

1127
01:06:39.719 --> 01:06:43.039
<v Speaker 1>you'll ever watch, not because it's like they actually die

1128
01:06:43.079 --> 01:06:45.440
<v Speaker 1>pretty quickly that way, because the second that they get

1129
01:06:45.480 --> 01:06:47.800
<v Speaker 1>over that immense amount of heat, they take their first

1130
01:06:47.840 --> 01:06:50.800
<v Speaker 1>in breath and they're gone, and it basically sees your

1131
01:06:50.840 --> 01:06:52.960
<v Speaker 1>lungs to the point in a return. But the most

1132
01:06:53.000 --> 01:06:54.719
<v Speaker 1>horrid for the thing is just watching and like I

1133
01:06:54.800 --> 01:06:56.920
<v Speaker 1>remember it is when they put her in her hair

1134
01:06:57.199 --> 01:06:59.960
<v Speaker 1>was dissolved instantaneously. It's like when you put hair in fire,

1135
01:07:00.199 --> 01:07:04.639
<v Speaker 1>it just disappears. So not only that, what most people

1136
01:07:04.920 --> 01:07:07.480
<v Speaker 1>have never thought about and don't see is that the skin,

1137
01:07:07.679 --> 01:07:10.199
<v Speaker 1>just like liquefies and it starts to fall off of

1138
01:07:10.320 --> 01:07:13.320
<v Speaker 1>the body in sheets, so that I was watching it

1139
01:07:13.400 --> 01:07:15.840
<v Speaker 1>fall into the fire like that, and then pretty soon

1140
01:07:16.000 --> 01:07:18.840
<v Speaker 1>we were left with basically only bones and like sinews

1141
01:07:18.920 --> 01:07:23.000
<v Speaker 1>and stuff like that. So I don't know what they

1142
01:07:23.079 --> 01:07:25.440
<v Speaker 1>do with the bones that they do in those rituals,

1143
01:07:25.440 --> 01:07:27.960
<v Speaker 1>because usually we leave before anything's cleaned up. It takes

1144
01:07:28.039 --> 01:07:31.199
<v Speaker 1>quite a while for a body to completely burn, So

1145
01:07:32.880 --> 01:07:36.199
<v Speaker 1>that was a pretty typical way of killing them. And

1146
01:07:37.119 --> 01:07:39.400
<v Speaker 1>this you have to know too, for the different holidays.

1147
01:07:39.679 --> 01:07:44.239
<v Speaker 1>It requires killing people in different ways in different ages.

1148
01:07:44.960 --> 01:07:47.760
<v Speaker 1>So some of the rituals require aborted fetuses, some of

1149
01:07:47.840 --> 01:07:51.679
<v Speaker 1>them require tiny babies, others require like a woman who's

1150
01:07:51.679 --> 01:07:54.320
<v Speaker 1>in the prime of her reproductive cycle, things like that.

1151
01:07:54.440 --> 01:07:56.079
<v Speaker 1>And if they take a woman who's in the prime

1152
01:07:56.119 --> 01:07:57.760
<v Speaker 1>of her reproductive cycle, the way that you kill them

1153
01:07:57.880 --> 01:07:59.199
<v Speaker 1>is by slicing them across the road.

1154
01:08:01.119 --> 01:08:05.079
<v Speaker 4>How how did you not fall victim to being a sacrifice?

1155
01:08:07.039 --> 01:08:08.960
<v Speaker 1>I would love to I would love to tell you

1156
01:08:09.039 --> 01:08:11.920
<v Speaker 1>that I know exactly why I don't like it. And

1157
01:08:12.079 --> 01:08:15.519
<v Speaker 1>looking back from an adult standpoint, it's like I can

1158
01:08:15.599 --> 01:08:19.600
<v Speaker 1>see a few times where it got really close, really

1159
01:08:19.640 --> 01:08:22.319
<v Speaker 1>really close, and I think what it was if I'm

1160
01:08:22.359 --> 01:08:26.359
<v Speaker 1>an adventurer. I guess I think it was the because

1161
01:08:26.399 --> 01:08:29.960
<v Speaker 1>of what I was capable of doing with these abilities,

1162
01:08:30.000 --> 01:08:32.920
<v Speaker 1>that they really did believe in that, why would you

1163
01:08:33.039 --> 01:08:35.520
<v Speaker 1>get rid of your access to the underworld? Why would

1164
01:08:35.560 --> 01:08:37.439
<v Speaker 1>you get rid of I mean, they used to drink

1165
01:08:37.520 --> 01:08:40.239
<v Speaker 1>my blood rituals on purpose, thinking that if they did that,

1166
01:08:40.359 --> 01:08:43.560
<v Speaker 1>they'd have protection or be able to see into the future,

1167
01:08:43.680 --> 01:08:47.000
<v Speaker 1>things like that. So it doesn't it wouldn't make sense,

1168
01:08:47.079 --> 01:08:51.159
<v Speaker 1>I guess, to sacrifice that. And also if you have

1169
01:08:51.279 --> 01:08:56.359
<v Speaker 1>somebody with these insane occult abilities, basically, I guess there

1170
01:08:56.520 --> 01:08:58.880
<v Speaker 1>was some part of them that hoped to groom me

1171
01:08:59.039 --> 01:09:01.159
<v Speaker 1>for a matriarchal position, which is a lot of the

1172
01:09:01.239 --> 01:09:04.760
<v Speaker 1>Satanic groups are highly matriarchal, not patriarchal. This is another

1173
01:09:04.800 --> 01:09:08.600
<v Speaker 1>thing which might surprise people to know. So like usually

1174
01:09:08.720 --> 01:09:11.880
<v Speaker 1>instead of there being a primary male priest that's like

1175
01:09:12.000 --> 01:09:14.079
<v Speaker 1>presiding over all, these women in the patriarchy is what

1176
01:09:14.239 --> 01:09:16.600
<v Speaker 1>keeps everyone down a lot of times, it's a super

1177
01:09:16.680 --> 01:09:20.319
<v Speaker 1>deviant matriarchal character, like the Crone type of character, who

1178
01:09:20.479 --> 01:09:22.720
<v Speaker 1>is the one who's telling people what to do and

1179
01:09:23.000 --> 01:09:25.840
<v Speaker 1>is orchestrating these huge events and things like that. So

1180
01:09:27.000 --> 01:09:29.039
<v Speaker 1>I could assume they are probably grooming me for that

1181
01:09:29.119 --> 01:09:32.760
<v Speaker 1>particular position, because when I turned thirteen, the tables flipped,

1182
01:09:32.800 --> 01:09:35.159
<v Speaker 1>even though I was still getting like tortured by them,

1183
01:09:35.279 --> 01:09:38.680
<v Speaker 1>programmed by them everything, because you have to reinstate programs

1184
01:09:39.319 --> 01:09:41.560
<v Speaker 1>like some of them will stick longer, other ones. You

1185
01:09:41.680 --> 01:09:44.159
<v Speaker 1>have to reprogram over and over again to make sure

1186
01:09:44.159 --> 01:09:48.159
<v Speaker 1>that those neuropathways stay completely freshen the brain. So besides that, though,

1187
01:09:48.399 --> 01:09:50.159
<v Speaker 1>the tables were turned, and I was now flipped into

1188
01:09:50.159 --> 01:09:52.800
<v Speaker 1>a position of working with the younger children's programming them,

1189
01:09:53.520 --> 01:09:56.239
<v Speaker 1>which worked for my therapy because I know how they

1190
01:09:56.319 --> 01:09:58.239
<v Speaker 1>do it. So if I know how they do it,

1191
01:09:58.319 --> 01:10:00.960
<v Speaker 1>I now know how to deprogram myself. And it's beneficial

1192
01:10:01.000 --> 01:10:03.840
<v Speaker 1>also because I can teach you know, these people who

1193
01:10:04.319 --> 01:10:07.439
<v Speaker 1>are working in the profession of ritual trauma psychologists and things,

1194
01:10:07.520 --> 01:10:09.920
<v Speaker 1>I can teach them how to be programmed now. But

1195
01:10:11.880 --> 01:10:13.520
<v Speaker 1>that was originally why I didn't want to talk to

1196
01:10:13.560 --> 01:10:15.680
<v Speaker 1>people about what was going on with me. I had

1197
01:10:15.800 --> 01:10:18.640
<v Speaker 1>never planned on telling anybody. By the way, this is

1198
01:10:18.760 --> 01:10:21.600
<v Speaker 1>like sometimes surprising to me that I know super public

1199
01:10:21.640 --> 01:10:24.239
<v Speaker 1>about this, because none of us are going to talk.

1200
01:10:25.039 --> 01:10:26.880
<v Speaker 1>You know, when we get away, that's where we start so.

1201
01:10:28.600 --> 01:10:32.239
<v Speaker 2>Let's just say that she's telling the truth. Okay, let's

1202
01:10:32.319 --> 01:10:37.000
<v Speaker 2>just say that this is one hundred percent, genuine, genuine

1203
01:10:37.680 --> 01:10:41.920
<v Speaker 2>s R A survivor. Sometimes I wonder how these people

1204
01:10:41.960 --> 01:10:44.319
<v Speaker 2>are able to say the things that they do, to

1205
01:10:44.479 --> 01:10:48.479
<v Speaker 2>come out in public with this stuff, And it makes

1206
01:10:48.600 --> 01:10:51.720
<v Speaker 2>me wonder if it's not just part of the plan,

1207
01:10:52.479 --> 01:10:59.479
<v Speaker 2>part of the plan to desensitize people on what really

1208
01:10:59.640 --> 01:11:04.640
<v Speaker 2>is going on with this stuff, you know? And I

1209
01:11:04.800 --> 01:11:09.079
<v Speaker 2>sometimes wonder, like, am I a part of the problem

1210
01:11:09.399 --> 01:11:14.880
<v Speaker 2>because I share this stuff with people? And I am

1211
01:11:15.000 --> 01:11:21.159
<v Speaker 2>part of desensitizing people. Like sometimes I'm watching these videos

1212
01:11:21.279 --> 01:11:24.840
<v Speaker 2>and they're like talking about their life as a child,

1213
01:11:25.239 --> 01:11:28.119
<v Speaker 2>and you know, just random stuff, and I'm like, Okay,

1214
01:11:28.239 --> 01:11:31.239
<v Speaker 2>come on, did you get raped or not? Did you

1215
01:11:31.359 --> 01:11:35.000
<v Speaker 2>see them meet the babies? What happened to your be hole?

1216
01:11:35.680 --> 01:11:39.159
<v Speaker 2>Let's get into it, Like do I got to pry

1217
01:11:39.239 --> 01:11:42.239
<v Speaker 2>it out of you about your rape story? We're just

1218
01:11:42.319 --> 01:11:44.960
<v Speaker 2>gonna sit here and talk about popsicles for the Like,

1219
01:11:46.319 --> 01:11:52.880
<v Speaker 2>I just I'm becoming desensitized to a degree, and also

1220
01:11:53.079 --> 01:11:56.439
<v Speaker 2>skeptical of a lot of these people's testimonies, like are

1221
01:11:56.479 --> 01:12:01.359
<v Speaker 2>these crazy people? Are they do they just want us

1222
01:12:01.479 --> 01:12:04.479
<v Speaker 2>to think that these are crazy people, so we discount

1223
01:12:04.600 --> 01:12:10.399
<v Speaker 2>how horrific their story is. But it does, you know,

1224
01:12:10.560 --> 01:12:14.239
<v Speaker 2>it's something that I've thought of before. But let's continue.

1225
01:12:16.399 --> 01:12:19.079
<v Speaker 1>I had planned on not telling anybody, especially because I

1226
01:12:19.159 --> 01:12:20.560
<v Speaker 1>was convinced I was going to be put in jail.

1227
01:12:21.880 --> 01:12:24.039
<v Speaker 1>Because when you realize, like, oh, these things are like

1228
01:12:24.119 --> 01:12:30.319
<v Speaker 1>punishable crimes. Oh, you know, you realize I've programmed children,

1229
01:12:30.359 --> 01:12:35.520
<v Speaker 1>I participated in sacrifices. And even though it's like it's

1230
01:12:35.840 --> 01:12:38.479
<v Speaker 1>because you've been traumatized and you have no option. I mean,

1231
01:12:38.640 --> 01:12:41.159
<v Speaker 1>it's too difficult to talk to somebody who's been in

1232
01:12:41.199 --> 01:12:44.039
<v Speaker 1>a space of freedom. You can't really explain to them

1233
01:12:44.079 --> 01:12:46.119
<v Speaker 1>what it's like to mentally be in the situation where

1234
01:12:46.560 --> 01:12:48.479
<v Speaker 1>you would do anything you were told to do because

1235
01:12:48.800 --> 01:12:51.880
<v Speaker 1>you don't have another option, But you get there mentally.

1236
01:12:52.000 --> 01:12:55.640
<v Speaker 1>So even though I had no other option than to

1237
01:12:56.159 --> 01:12:58.520
<v Speaker 1>do these things with these groups, it's like the massive

1238
01:12:58.520 --> 01:13:00.199
<v Speaker 1>amount of guilt that I have a hard time get over.

1239
01:13:00.239 --> 01:13:02.439
<v Speaker 1>And it's the reason I didn't want to talk. I

1240
01:13:02.479 --> 01:13:03.840
<v Speaker 1>don't want to end up in a Jill soul because

1241
01:13:03.840 --> 01:13:05.359
<v Speaker 1>I did something when I was seventeen with a cold

1242
01:13:05.359 --> 01:13:08.319
<v Speaker 1>group that took me in when I was six. Yeah,

1243
01:13:09.800 --> 01:13:10.119
<v Speaker 1>so you.

1244
01:13:12.000 --> 01:13:14.199
<v Speaker 4>You programmed some of the children that were brought into

1245
01:13:14.239 --> 01:13:16.520
<v Speaker 4>the cold. Did a child ever die at your hands? No?

1246
01:13:18.279 --> 01:13:20.560
<v Speaker 1>No, but I didn't. What really kills me is that

1247
01:13:20.600 --> 01:13:23.079
<v Speaker 1>I didn't do anything to stop them. It's like when

1248
01:13:23.319 --> 01:13:25.279
<v Speaker 1>the older I've gotten, it's like the more you get

1249
01:13:25.319 --> 01:13:27.640
<v Speaker 1>out of this haze that you get in with these groups,

1250
01:13:28.439 --> 01:13:30.880
<v Speaker 1>the more that I'm sort of like wishing that they

1251
01:13:30.920 --> 01:13:33.199
<v Speaker 1>would have killed me just because I was protesting. It's

1252
01:13:33.239 --> 01:13:35.560
<v Speaker 1>like it would almost be morally better to die because

1253
01:13:35.720 --> 01:13:38.760
<v Speaker 1>you were saying no, then watch and not be able

1254
01:13:38.800 --> 01:13:40.720
<v Speaker 1>to do anything like I felt like I was doing

1255
01:13:40.800 --> 01:13:41.279
<v Speaker 1>for so long.

1256
01:13:41.960 --> 01:13:44.279
<v Speaker 4>So there was a point where you started protesting while

1257
01:13:44.359 --> 01:13:44.680
<v Speaker 4>you were.

1258
01:13:44.760 --> 01:13:48.279
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, I never protested. That was my That's my issue.

1259
01:13:48.279 --> 01:13:50.279
<v Speaker 4>That's like my number one guilt that you didn't protest.

1260
01:13:51.640 --> 01:13:52.600
<v Speaker 1>I didn't think it was an option.

1261
01:13:53.640 --> 01:13:55.800
<v Speaker 4>And you were nineteen when you got out yep. And

1262
01:13:56.359 --> 01:13:58.560
<v Speaker 4>how did you get out? And what was the what

1263
01:13:58.840 --> 01:14:00.760
<v Speaker 4>was it that clicked for you? You where what was

1264
01:14:00.800 --> 01:14:03.439
<v Speaker 4>that moment when it was like, oh crap, I have

1265
01:14:03.640 --> 01:14:04.079
<v Speaker 4>to get out.

1266
01:14:04.439 --> 01:14:07.359
<v Speaker 1>This is really funny because this is like people love

1267
01:14:07.479 --> 01:14:10.279
<v Speaker 1>me to they want to hear a story where I'm

1268
01:14:10.359 --> 01:14:15.079
<v Speaker 1>basically so excited to be gone finally, and that is

1269
01:14:15.199 --> 01:14:17.960
<v Speaker 1>so then not the way that it went. The way

1270
01:14:18.000 --> 01:14:19.880
<v Speaker 1>that it went is that I was wanting to leave

1271
01:14:20.880 --> 01:14:22.840
<v Speaker 1>to do other things. I was like because I had

1272
01:14:22.880 --> 01:14:25.399
<v Speaker 1>started modeling. He used to prostitute me when I was younger.

1273
01:14:25.680 --> 01:14:27.319
<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of things I haven't talked about that

1274
01:14:27.359 --> 01:14:27.840
<v Speaker 1>he's done to.

1275
01:14:27.840 --> 01:14:28.560
<v Speaker 2>Me that I just like.

1276
01:14:28.760 --> 01:14:30.239
<v Speaker 1>But basically, one of the things he used to do

1277
01:14:30.319 --> 01:14:32.119
<v Speaker 1>is make money by prostituting me. How when I was younger.

1278
01:14:32.199 --> 01:14:34.880
<v Speaker 1>So he'd take polaroid photographs of me covered in blood,

1279
01:14:35.119 --> 01:14:37.640
<v Speaker 1>and then he would go and like to Wendover was

1280
01:14:37.680 --> 01:14:40.079
<v Speaker 1>the most typical place we went, or sometimes motels just

1281
01:14:40.159 --> 01:14:43.880
<v Speaker 1>in Logan, Utah, are in Preston, Idaho. And what he

1282
01:14:43.880 --> 01:14:46.920
<v Speaker 1>would do is he would sit in the back of

1283
01:14:47.239 --> 01:14:49.359
<v Speaker 1>his truck. And I don't know how the hell he

1284
01:14:49.520 --> 01:14:51.760
<v Speaker 1>orchestrated this because I didn't watch him call these people,

1285
01:14:51.840 --> 01:14:54.560
<v Speaker 1>but men would approach the truck. He'd show them these

1286
01:14:54.600 --> 01:14:56.720
<v Speaker 1>polaroid photographs and they decide what they would want me

1287
01:14:56.840 --> 01:14:58.760
<v Speaker 1>to do with them, and they'd pay him for it.

1288
01:14:59.279 --> 01:15:01.359
<v Speaker 1>So like one of the most common things to do.

1289
01:15:01.680 --> 01:15:03.119
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you remember the but back in

1290
01:15:03.199 --> 01:15:07.560
<v Speaker 1>the day with these gas stations. What they used to

1291
01:15:07.640 --> 01:15:10.960
<v Speaker 1>have with gas stations is an outdoor bathroom, not an

1292
01:15:11.000 --> 01:15:12.920
<v Speaker 1>indoor bathroom, right, So what they do is pulled to

1293
01:15:13.000 --> 01:15:15.600
<v Speaker 1>the side and I would go into the outdoor bathroom

1294
01:15:15.680 --> 01:15:17.399
<v Speaker 1>and then the guy would come in and then he'd

1295
01:15:17.439 --> 01:15:19.439
<v Speaker 1>do whatever the hell he wanted to rape or have me,

1296
01:15:19.880 --> 01:15:23.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, perform fillatio stuff like that, and then they

1297
01:15:23.600 --> 01:15:26.239
<v Speaker 1>would go back and then pay him for it. So

1298
01:15:26.600 --> 01:15:28.640
<v Speaker 1>he would take me and I'd probably see like the

1299
01:15:28.720 --> 01:15:30.760
<v Speaker 1>most I ever saw in the night was eight Usually

1300
01:15:30.800 --> 01:15:33.760
<v Speaker 1>it was like two or three. And that was how

1301
01:15:33.800 --> 01:15:36.640
<v Speaker 1>he's making money. But when I turned twelve, it's like

1302
01:15:36.720 --> 01:15:39.359
<v Speaker 1>the guys who were into that pedophile stuff, they don't

1303
01:15:39.359 --> 01:15:42.079
<v Speaker 1>really want to have sex with you anymore because you're older.

1304
01:15:43.079 --> 01:15:47.439
<v Speaker 1>So at first this guy, my keeper was super pissed

1305
01:15:47.439 --> 01:15:50.279
<v Speaker 1>about it. He's losing money, Like, I can't deal with

1306
01:15:50.279 --> 01:15:51.960
<v Speaker 1>the fact that you're getting older. This is not okay

1307
01:15:52.000 --> 01:15:54.279
<v Speaker 1>because you're losing clientele. In fact, you're gonna have to

1308
01:15:54.359 --> 01:15:55.920
<v Speaker 1>pay me for the money that I'm losing because you're

1309
01:15:55.920 --> 01:16:01.039
<v Speaker 1>getting tits. So I didn't know how to do that,

1310
01:16:01.399 --> 01:16:05.239
<v Speaker 1>and he got it in his mind that basically, what

1311
01:16:05.359 --> 01:16:08.119
<v Speaker 1>if she could model, you know, that'd be a good

1312
01:16:08.159 --> 01:16:11.279
<v Speaker 1>idea because she's pretty enough. Why don't we just see

1313
01:16:11.319 --> 01:16:14.239
<v Speaker 1>like what happens there. So I started I sort of

1314
01:16:14.279 --> 01:16:15.920
<v Speaker 1>got into it. Like the funny part is, it's not

1315
01:16:16.079 --> 01:16:18.000
<v Speaker 1>like he threw me into the modeling thing. Gave me

1316
01:16:18.079 --> 01:16:19.880
<v Speaker 1>that suggestion, and I was like, oh bummer. I was

1317
01:16:20.000 --> 01:16:22.520
<v Speaker 1>like amazed by this other world out there because I

1318
01:16:22.680 --> 01:16:25.239
<v Speaker 1>was growing up in this rural town as a like

1319
01:16:25.399 --> 01:16:29.880
<v Speaker 1>bumpkin kid. Basically even though I had educated children all right, sorry,

1320
01:16:30.000 --> 01:16:32.880
<v Speaker 1>educated parents. I had educated parents. So even though I

1321
01:16:33.000 --> 01:16:38.119
<v Speaker 1>had that reality, I sort of saw this glamor, you know,

1322
01:16:38.359 --> 01:16:42.319
<v Speaker 1>in the world of fashion and these women who were like,

1323
01:16:43.439 --> 01:16:48.479
<v Speaker 1>instead of being used and destroyed, basically, they were like glorified,

1324
01:16:48.560 --> 01:16:51.840
<v Speaker 1>and I loved it the god. So I became totally

1325
01:16:51.840 --> 01:16:54.720
<v Speaker 1>obsessed with modeling, got into it. Most of the money

1326
01:16:54.760 --> 01:16:56.479
<v Speaker 1>that I was making out of modeling, I was giving

1327
01:16:56.560 --> 01:16:59.600
<v Speaker 1>right back to my keeper because that was the rule there.

1328
01:17:00.680 --> 01:17:05.800
<v Speaker 1>And when I was nineteen or so, I had graduated

1329
01:17:05.800 --> 01:17:09.159
<v Speaker 1>from high school, I was sixteen. I was incapable of

1330
01:17:09.239 --> 01:17:11.640
<v Speaker 1>doing anything, which is typical of children who are in

1331
01:17:11.840 --> 01:17:14.039
<v Speaker 1>cults like this when we're programmed with the no self

1332
01:17:14.119 --> 01:17:17.199
<v Speaker 1>care programs. It's like the time that your parents sort

1333
01:17:17.199 --> 01:17:19.319
<v Speaker 1>of expect you to fly, but no, I was in

1334
01:17:19.359 --> 01:17:24.279
<v Speaker 1>and out of hospitals, in psychology offices every other ten seconds,

1335
01:17:24.399 --> 01:17:25.720
<v Speaker 1>and they were trying to figure out what the hell

1336
01:17:25.800 --> 01:17:27.800
<v Speaker 1>was going on with me. They mentioned abuse more than

1337
01:17:28.000 --> 01:17:31.039
<v Speaker 1>a hundred times, but like looking at my parents and

1338
01:17:31.079 --> 01:17:33.920
<v Speaker 1>figuring it's not them, They're like, well, it can't be abused,

1339
01:17:33.920 --> 01:17:36.600
<v Speaker 1>so what the hell are we looking at? And I

1340
01:17:36.760 --> 01:17:39.239
<v Speaker 1>slipped through the cracks like a lot of children who

1341
01:17:39.239 --> 01:17:42.319
<v Speaker 1>are part of these cults do. Even though there are

1342
01:17:42.319 --> 01:17:45.000
<v Speaker 1>people who suspect. It's like it never occurs to them

1343
01:17:45.239 --> 01:17:47.920
<v Speaker 1>my parents that it's a family friend, never occurs to

1344
01:17:49.319 --> 01:17:51.439
<v Speaker 1>the people that it can be like a whole cult

1345
01:17:51.479 --> 01:17:54.479
<v Speaker 1>group that's super good at doing what they do. So

1346
01:17:55.079 --> 01:17:57.439
<v Speaker 1>it just went unchecked and I was like not functioning.

1347
01:17:57.520 --> 01:17:59.600
<v Speaker 1>But I still had these sort of dreams of being

1348
01:18:00.560 --> 01:18:05.600
<v Speaker 1>am a model. So I had planned to get away

1349
01:18:05.680 --> 01:18:08.119
<v Speaker 1>from him for just a little bit to go do

1350
01:18:08.239 --> 01:18:10.560
<v Speaker 1>some modeling. I was not planning on running away. I'll

1351
01:18:10.640 --> 01:18:11.760
<v Speaker 1>just let go there right now and tell you. I

1352
01:18:11.840 --> 01:18:14.600
<v Speaker 1>didn't think i'd ever be one. So it was just

1353
01:18:14.680 --> 01:18:15.960
<v Speaker 1>like I need to go on a trip, which was

1354
01:18:16.039 --> 01:18:17.960
<v Speaker 1>not allowed. The last time I'd gone on a trip,

1355
01:18:18.000 --> 01:18:21.880
<v Speaker 1>he actually killed my dog, so I planned on going

1356
01:18:21.960 --> 01:18:24.720
<v Speaker 1>on this trip. He found out caught wind from my

1357
01:18:25.399 --> 01:18:29.000
<v Speaker 1>mother and he had planned the scenario because he was

1358
01:18:29.039 --> 01:18:32.359
<v Speaker 1>super furious. So I get back from a trip and

1359
01:18:33.560 --> 01:18:36.399
<v Speaker 1>he injected me as ketamine. This is the other story.

1360
01:18:36.399 --> 01:18:39.039
<v Speaker 1>Because he was a veterinarian, he had access to ketemine, dermitory,

1361
01:18:39.039 --> 01:18:42.239
<v Speaker 1>and zyolisine, so all three of those drugs were used

1362
01:18:42.279 --> 01:18:45.239
<v Speaker 1>on me like a lot throughout my childhood. At that point,

1363
01:18:45.319 --> 01:18:49.239
<v Speaker 1>I was actually hooked on a ketamine that you could

1364
01:18:49.319 --> 01:18:51.399
<v Speaker 1>drop on the pulse points of your skin that he

1365
01:18:51.439 --> 01:18:53.159
<v Speaker 1>had given me to calm down because I was having

1366
01:18:53.199 --> 01:18:56.039
<v Speaker 1>what they call bleedover symptoms. When you put somebody through

1367
01:18:56.119 --> 01:19:00.479
<v Speaker 1>so much trauma, then the programming that they instant to

1368
01:19:00.680 --> 01:19:02.840
<v Speaker 1>be able to shift into emotional states. So this is

1369
01:19:02.880 --> 01:19:05.680
<v Speaker 1>what I mean. If you're a kid basically who's been

1370
01:19:05.760 --> 01:19:09.199
<v Speaker 1>in these groups, they need you to be able to

1371
01:19:09.239 --> 01:19:12.479
<v Speaker 1>function so that nobody notices. So what they do is

1372
01:19:12.520 --> 01:19:15.000
<v Speaker 1>they create a split program so that if they teach

1373
01:19:15.039 --> 01:19:16.840
<v Speaker 1>you to snap your fingers and the minute you do

1374
01:19:16.960 --> 01:19:20.720
<v Speaker 1>that you feel good. You don't feel anything, So anytime

1375
01:19:20.760 --> 01:19:23.079
<v Speaker 1>you start feeling emotional anxiety or something like that. You

1376
01:19:23.159 --> 01:19:25.439
<v Speaker 1>snap your fingers, so you can actually train a child

1377
01:19:25.600 --> 01:19:28.520
<v Speaker 1>to in one one hand, they're crying the next minute

1378
01:19:28.520 --> 01:19:32.279
<v Speaker 1>to do that. They're like, what's going on? It's that simple.

1379
01:19:32.399 --> 01:19:34.800
<v Speaker 1>So they train you with this split programming so that

1380
01:19:34.880 --> 01:19:36.640
<v Speaker 1>they can make sure that you can function at school

1381
01:19:36.760 --> 01:19:38.279
<v Speaker 1>and so that you're doing this with the group, and

1382
01:19:38.319 --> 01:19:42.159
<v Speaker 1>it's basically you're living a double life. So I specifically

1383
01:19:42.239 --> 01:19:44.319
<v Speaker 1>program children for this. So I've watched them do this

1384
01:19:44.840 --> 01:19:47.680
<v Speaker 1>and it was done on me as well. So bleed

1385
01:19:47.760 --> 01:19:50.720
<v Speaker 1>over symptoms is what happens when this is no longer working,

1386
01:19:50.880 --> 01:19:54.960
<v Speaker 1>when you've got so much subconscious trauma, essentially that most

1387
01:19:55.000 --> 01:19:56.760
<v Speaker 1>of the time the person spends in a state of

1388
01:19:56.840 --> 01:19:59.800
<v Speaker 1>serious anxiety. So I was starting to have seizures with

1389
01:20:00.159 --> 01:20:03.520
<v Speaker 1>they think is it's either trauma seizures or it's caesars

1390
01:20:03.520 --> 01:20:06.119
<v Speaker 1>that are induced by the long term use of ketamine

1391
01:20:06.199 --> 01:20:10.319
<v Speaker 1>things like that. So that's another bleed over sentiment sort

1392
01:20:10.319 --> 01:20:12.800
<v Speaker 1>of like they're no longer able to contain completely the

1393
01:20:12.880 --> 01:20:16.319
<v Speaker 1>trauma that's happening within the system. So the extreme anxiety

1394
01:20:16.399 --> 01:20:18.680
<v Speaker 1>I was going through, he would give me droplets of

1395
01:20:18.760 --> 01:20:21.520
<v Speaker 1>ketemine to put on my skin instead, and I was

1396
01:20:21.520 --> 01:20:25.119
<v Speaker 1>carrying that around with me, So I think that that

1397
01:20:25.359 --> 01:20:28.000
<v Speaker 1>was the reason. If I'm gonna go and put a

1398
01:20:28.119 --> 01:20:31.039
<v Speaker 1>theory in, I think that's the reason that he gave

1399
01:20:31.119 --> 01:20:33.119
<v Speaker 1>me the wrong dose, which is the first time he's

1400
01:20:33.159 --> 01:20:37.199
<v Speaker 1>ever messed up like that in my life. So he

1401
01:20:37.319 --> 01:20:40.039
<v Speaker 1>was planning an elaborate programming scenario where he was supposed

1402
01:20:40.039 --> 01:20:41.920
<v Speaker 1>to inject me with a full dose of ketamine, which

1403
01:20:41.920 --> 01:20:44.039
<v Speaker 1>would put me unconscious and then I would wake up

1404
01:20:44.159 --> 01:20:48.560
<v Speaker 1>having no memory. It didn't work that way. I think

1405
01:20:48.600 --> 01:20:50.319
<v Speaker 1>it's because of the fact that he had given me

1406
01:20:50.439 --> 01:20:54.279
<v Speaker 1>that dropper to continually take kenymine. My tolerance was higher,

1407
01:20:55.000 --> 01:20:57.199
<v Speaker 1>so he missed dose. He gave me a missed dose,

1408
01:20:57.960 --> 01:21:01.079
<v Speaker 1>and I didn't lose consciousness. And when he put me

1409
01:21:01.159 --> 01:21:03.159
<v Speaker 1>in the back of this van that I was in,

1410
01:21:03.720 --> 01:21:05.680
<v Speaker 1>I was conscious the entire time I was there. I

1411
01:21:05.760 --> 01:21:08.159
<v Speaker 1>was groggy. I couldn't move my body, which is pretty typical.

1412
01:21:08.199 --> 01:21:10.000
<v Speaker 1>It's one reason they love using that. The cult groups

1413
01:21:10.079 --> 01:21:14.119
<v Speaker 1>love ketamine because ketamine you can still feel everything until

1414
01:21:14.119 --> 01:21:16.319
<v Speaker 1>you go completely conscious. You can still feel everything, but

1415
01:21:16.359 --> 01:21:19.079
<v Speaker 1>you can't move. So I couldn't move my body, but

1416
01:21:19.159 --> 01:21:23.640
<v Speaker 1>I was awake, watching at twilight, watching all of the

1417
01:21:24.239 --> 01:21:26.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, like the trees when you drive, you've got

1418
01:21:26.479 --> 01:21:29.239
<v Speaker 1>like that sort of sunshine, dappled sunlight that's coming through.

1419
01:21:30.520 --> 01:21:33.920
<v Speaker 1>So then he brought me to this group of really

1420
01:21:34.159 --> 01:21:36.800
<v Speaker 1>tall pine trees and walked me off of the road.

1421
01:21:36.880 --> 01:21:40.359
<v Speaker 1>Probably ten twenty minutes could have been into the woods

1422
01:21:41.000 --> 01:21:43.399
<v Speaker 1>and there was a body there. Now, one of the

1423
01:21:43.600 --> 01:21:48.760
<v Speaker 1>members of the Satanic group is this guy who owns

1424
01:21:48.880 --> 01:21:53.720
<v Speaker 1>a mortician place, so's you think he's a morticianer. So

1425
01:21:54.439 --> 01:21:56.800
<v Speaker 1>it's a good way for people who are trying to

1426
01:21:56.840 --> 01:22:04.199
<v Speaker 1>really traumatize children to procure instruments of torment essentially by

1427
01:22:04.359 --> 01:22:07.640
<v Speaker 1>using these bodies. So we were brought into morticians' offices

1428
01:22:07.680 --> 01:22:09.399
<v Speaker 1>as well as him doing what he did this day,

1429
01:22:09.399 --> 01:22:11.640
<v Speaker 1>which was to procure that body and bring it into

1430
01:22:11.640 --> 01:22:15.760
<v Speaker 1>the woods. So, at nineteen years old, I walk into

1431
01:22:15.760 --> 01:22:18.640
<v Speaker 1>the woods. Here's this body that he has put there.

1432
01:22:19.039 --> 01:22:21.640
<v Speaker 1>Now he comes up behind me, which was quite typical

1433
01:22:21.680 --> 01:22:23.119
<v Speaker 1>for him, and smacked me in the back of the

1434
01:22:23.159 --> 01:22:24.800
<v Speaker 1>head and threw me to the ground and said, look

1435
01:22:24.840 --> 01:22:28.279
<v Speaker 1>what you do when I am not watching you every second.

1436
01:22:28.399 --> 01:22:30.039
<v Speaker 1>This is the kind of trouble you put us all in.

1437
01:22:30.520 --> 01:22:32.239
<v Speaker 1>He was trying to convince me that I had killed

1438
01:22:32.279 --> 01:22:35.880
<v Speaker 1>this person, and I was supposed to then be like,

1439
01:22:35.960 --> 01:22:38.239
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, I'm so sorry. I'm so glad that

1440
01:22:38.319 --> 01:22:40.279
<v Speaker 1>you're like helping me with this, and I know the

1441
01:22:40.359 --> 01:22:42.159
<v Speaker 1>cops because that's the whole thing. The cops are after

1442
01:22:42.239 --> 01:22:46.920
<v Speaker 1>you now, so you have to stay with me. So

1443
01:22:48.199 --> 01:22:50.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm like feeling mentally messed up because I've been around

1444
01:22:51.039 --> 01:22:53.119
<v Speaker 1>enough dead bodies in my childhood to know exactly what

1445
01:22:53.279 --> 01:22:54.800
<v Speaker 1>was going on there, and I wasn't out of it

1446
01:22:54.920 --> 01:22:57.600
<v Speaker 1>because he didn't toast me high enough. So I'm sitting

1447
01:22:57.640 --> 01:22:59.880
<v Speaker 1>next to this body which was missing its entire bottom

1448
01:23:00.119 --> 01:23:03.880
<v Speaker 1>jaw because it was a suicide victim. That's like pretty typical.

1449
01:23:03.920 --> 01:23:05.680
<v Speaker 1>If they angled the gun wrong when they put it

1450
01:23:05.720 --> 01:23:07.720
<v Speaker 1>in their mouth, they blow their jaw off instead of

1451
01:23:07.800 --> 01:23:12.680
<v Speaker 1>their head. So I'm and this man is probably thirty something.

1452
01:23:12.800 --> 01:23:15.720
<v Speaker 1>Not only that he smelled like formaldehyde, not only that

1453
01:23:15.920 --> 01:23:18.159
<v Speaker 1>he had a full bruise along the bottom side of

1454
01:23:18.199 --> 01:23:20.479
<v Speaker 1>his body. Not only that you touch his skin and

1455
01:23:20.560 --> 01:23:23.600
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't bounce back. That tells me having been around

1456
01:23:23.640 --> 01:23:25.600
<v Speaker 1>bodies for that long as a child. But this is

1457
01:23:25.680 --> 01:23:29.479
<v Speaker 1>an older body, So I'm like, why is he telling

1458
01:23:29.520 --> 01:23:31.279
<v Speaker 1>me that I did something I didn't do. I remember

1459
01:23:31.319 --> 01:23:33.840
<v Speaker 1>everything I've done today, I know exactly. Like he smells

1460
01:23:33.840 --> 01:23:36.800
<v Speaker 1>like formaldehyde, like he's been in a mortician's office. He's

1461
01:23:36.840 --> 01:23:38.520
<v Speaker 1>trying to convince me that I did something I didn't do.

1462
01:23:38.920 --> 01:23:45.920
<v Speaker 1>I have no context for this. So basically, that day

1463
01:23:46.359 --> 01:23:51.159
<v Speaker 1>he had me like carving ritual symbols into the body.

1464
01:23:51.720 --> 01:23:55.600
<v Speaker 1>And because the body was in rigamortis, his penis was

1465
01:23:55.640 --> 01:23:59.800
<v Speaker 1>completely erect. So he also had me perform like sex

1466
01:24:00.239 --> 01:24:03.039
<v Speaker 1>this body, which is one of the worst memories, of course,

1467
01:24:03.079 --> 01:24:05.039
<v Speaker 1>of my life, because my face was three inches away

1468
01:24:05.039 --> 01:24:07.279
<v Speaker 1>from this huge wound in the bottom half of this

1469
01:24:07.359 --> 01:24:12.079
<v Speaker 1>guy's face. And so I'm having sex with this corpse and.

1470
01:24:12.960 --> 01:24:21.800
<v Speaker 2>Ow hell now, hell to the fuck now? Oh god,

1471
01:24:22.119 --> 01:24:27.479
<v Speaker 2>I'm gagging. I'm gagging. I'm gagging. That sounds like did

1472
01:24:27.560 --> 01:24:30.760
<v Speaker 2>you guys ever watch the Haunting in Connecticut where that

1473
01:24:30.880 --> 01:24:34.840
<v Speaker 2>guy he had the mortician or whatever, he had the

1474
01:24:34.960 --> 01:24:38.119
<v Speaker 2>funeral home and he was carving symbols and doing all

1475
01:24:38.199 --> 01:24:41.199
<v Speaker 2>kind of occult rituals and shit with them bodies and stuff.

1476
01:24:41.920 --> 01:24:43.920
<v Speaker 2>If they would have included a scene like that, I

1477
01:24:44.000 --> 01:24:46.560
<v Speaker 2>think they would have fucking thrown the movie out. But

1478
01:24:47.760 --> 01:24:50.359
<v Speaker 2>This really really reminds me of that movie. You guys

1479
01:24:50.359 --> 01:24:56.720
<v Speaker 2>should watch it, but hale to the now. You know what,

1480
01:24:56.880 --> 01:25:01.800
<v Speaker 2>his dead corpse ass fucking nasty penis probably smelled like,

1481
01:25:01.920 --> 01:25:05.600
<v Speaker 2>and his dead carved up beehole and she had a

1482
01:25:06.079 --> 01:25:15.279
<v Speaker 2>climb one. Oh absolutely not, absolutely not. But that is

1483
01:25:15.439 --> 01:25:20.119
<v Speaker 2>going to conclude part one of the Teal Swan story.

1484
01:25:21.560 --> 01:25:25.119
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna stop my share real quid. Okay, folks, So

1485
01:25:25.279 --> 01:25:28.600
<v Speaker 2>that is gonna do us for part one of the

1486
01:25:28.760 --> 01:25:33.199
<v Speaker 2>Teal Swan story. You could probably go to YouTube, type

1487
01:25:33.239 --> 01:25:36.039
<v Speaker 2>this bitch's name in and watch the rest of this

1488
01:25:36.239 --> 01:25:38.800
<v Speaker 2>interview all on your own, but then you would be

1489
01:25:38.920 --> 01:25:44.479
<v Speaker 2>lacking the very entertaining side commentary and conversation with yours truly,

1490
01:25:45.000 --> 01:25:47.520
<v Speaker 2>and we're besties. I don't know why you'd want to

1491
01:25:47.560 --> 01:25:50.680
<v Speaker 2>watch it without me. We'd be doing stuff together. We're

1492
01:25:50.760 --> 01:25:55.159
<v Speaker 2>family over her. But yeah, so that's gonna do it

1493
01:25:55.239 --> 01:25:57.720
<v Speaker 2>for part one. I got some shout outs and some

1494
01:25:57.920 --> 01:26:00.800
<v Speaker 2>stuff I'm going to mention for PARTI who are I

1495
01:26:00.960 --> 01:26:04.000
<v Speaker 2>was gonna put him in this, but I forgot my bee.

1496
01:26:04.399 --> 01:26:07.359
<v Speaker 2>I will include the shout outs on the part too,

1497
01:26:08.199 --> 01:26:12.800
<v Speaker 2>but until then, I love you, thank you for watching,

1498
01:26:13.720 --> 01:26:17.520
<v Speaker 2>and I will catch you on the next one.

1499
01:26:20.199 --> 01:26:23.359
<v Speaker 1>Girl, figure, you were the trigger.

1500
01:26:24.760 --> 01:26:27.880
<v Speaker 6>You brought me to an obstructive you when you know

1501
01:26:28.199 --> 01:26:30.119
<v Speaker 6>the picture speaker who went my.

1502
01:26:30.239 --> 01:26:33.000
<v Speaker 2>Katten you from not begin.

1503
01:26:34.359 --> 01:26:37.239
<v Speaker 6>You doin everything you do it every time you want

1504
01:26:37.319 --> 01:26:41.560
<v Speaker 6>my enemy, you want no friend of my motherfucker. You're

1505
01:26:41.600 --> 01:26:46.640
<v Speaker 6>motherfucking right, your mother fucking right on, your motherfucking right

1506
01:26:46.760 --> 01:26:47.359
<v Speaker 6>on trigger.

1507
01:26:48.000 --> 01:26:51.720
<v Speaker 1>You're all fucking right up. I wanna fuck you right up.

1508
01:26:52.920 --> 01:26:55.760
<v Speaker 6>I just turned the lights now, and you know when

1509
01:26:55.800 --> 01:26:58.640
<v Speaker 6>the song go down, when I would all go down,

1510
01:26:59.239 --> 01:27:02.039
<v Speaker 6>been a minute of it, know, wow, yeah, nobody it

1511
01:27:02.199 --> 01:27:02.399
<v Speaker 6>is it.

1512
01:27:02.640 --> 01:27:03.199
<v Speaker 2>You're with it?

1513
01:27:03.760 --> 01:27:06.199
<v Speaker 5>You know you it's not do with it better?

1514
01:27:06.199 --> 01:27:06.359
<v Speaker 6>I know?

1515
01:27:06.520 --> 01:27:09.079
<v Speaker 1>Mean you what help you with it? I'm out to

1516
01:27:09.119 --> 01:27:10.079
<v Speaker 1>burn this beach down.

1517
01:27:10.640 --> 01:27:13.880
<v Speaker 5>You gotta need to lie down because I'm not trying

1518
01:27:13.880 --> 01:27:14.840
<v Speaker 5>a whole out now.

1519
01:27:15.920 --> 01:27:19.399
<v Speaker 6>But right now I don't know what okay for Paul

1520
01:27:19.439 --> 01:27:23.119
<v Speaker 6>Love might fuck around and go crazy because my fucking.

1521
01:27:22.880 --> 01:27:25.880
<v Speaker 2>Around have to pay me in blood. This ain't the

1522
01:27:25.960 --> 01:27:28.159
<v Speaker 2>way that you want it. Might catch your case in

1523
01:27:28.239 --> 01:27:30.399
<v Speaker 2>this bitch. Don't let me catch your face to face

1524
01:27:30.479 --> 01:27:31.039
<v Speaker 2>in this bitch.

1525
01:27:31.319 --> 01:27:34.039
<v Speaker 5>Try in my heart is not do this respect after

1526
01:27:34.199 --> 01:27:34.680
<v Speaker 5>what you did?

1527
01:27:34.800 --> 01:27:40.920
<v Speaker 6>Man, what you've expected, your motherfucking your mouthfucking right, your

1528
01:27:41.000 --> 01:27:45.399
<v Speaker 6>motherfucking right on bitter, your motherfucking right on drigger.

1529
01:27:45.560 --> 01:27:51.000
<v Speaker 5>Your motherfucking right up shouting another time, shut a lot

1530
01:27:51.039 --> 01:27:54.960
<v Speaker 5>of time, go by, shot at other time. Oh turn

1531
01:27:55.039 --> 01:27:55.920
<v Speaker 5>a at the time.

1532
01:27:57.199 --> 01:28:07.920
<v Speaker 3>The memories, oh mentomy, Oh history, Oh that's history. Outcome down, eventually,

1533
01:28:08.680 --> 01:28:14.680
<v Speaker 3>fall back, eventually, please coming back, eventually fall back again

1534
01:28:14.840 --> 01:28:15.119
<v Speaker 3>to me.

1535
01:28:15.359 --> 01:28:15.399
<v Speaker 6>He