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Speaker 2: We'll talk about that another time. Onto business. How is
Speaker 2: everybody doing a lot of stuff that we need to
Speaker 2: catch up on today? So I didn't know about this.
Speaker 2: Colby told me about this. What did I fucking say?
Speaker 2: What like two weeks ago? Three weeks ago? I said,
Speaker 2: in order to distract from the Epstein files, they're gonna
Speaker 2: come out with some fucking crazy shit about aliens, extraterrestrials something,
Speaker 2: And so I guess Trump tweeted that he was gonna
Speaker 2: do some ancient aliens disclosure type shit. And I don't
Speaker 2: know if he's done it yet or not, or if
Speaker 2: he's just talking trying to distract because they're about to
Speaker 2: come out and say there was some shit in the
Speaker 2: Epstein files about getting piped up the b hole or
Speaker 2: some stuff like that. It's about to say, you know,
Speaker 2: we was drowning puppies, we was eating babies, We was
Speaker 2: doing all the things. Oh, by the way, aliens, So
Speaker 2: we'll see how that shakes out. I fucking told you so.
Speaker 2: I feel like Alex Jones right now, minus that I'm
Speaker 2: like a CIA operative. Anyways, So I was watching this
Speaker 2: thing the other day. I got two stories for you,
Speaker 2: both true stories.
Speaker 1: You can google it.
Speaker 2: The first story was this dude was just sitting on
Speaker 2: his back patio or something like that, just minding his
Speaker 2: own business, maybe doing a little barbecue in I don't know,
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden he sees this airplane, commercial
Speaker 2: airplane like Southwest or some shit like that, just flying
Speaker 2: over his house and a dude person he didn't know
Speaker 2: was a dude at the time, just falling straight out
Speaker 2: of the airplane. So he starts freaking out, calls nine
Speaker 2: to one one something like that, and he tries to
Speaker 2: walk over to where he thinks this sky's gonna drop,
Speaker 2: and by the time he gets there, there's a man
Speaker 2: in a bathrobe standing there his whole back patio. This
Speaker 2: ement is fucking cave. The fucking like a fucking meteor
Speaker 2: shower just occurred, and the dude that fell out of
Speaker 2: the airplane hit this other guy's back patio, shattered the concrete,
Speaker 2: and there were just bits and chunks of dismembered body parts, blood,
Speaker 2: everything splattered all over the fucking place. And it turns out,
Speaker 2: I don't know how they came to this conclusion, but
Speaker 2: this is what they say. The guy was already dead
Speaker 2: before he hited the patio, and he was also frozen solid.
Speaker 2: And at the end of the show they tried to
Speaker 2: explain it away by saying, oh, he was probably like
Speaker 2: a stowaway person and he got stuck somewhere in the
Speaker 2: airplane and froze into an ice cube. However that happens,
Speaker 2: not saying it can't, but that's what this story is.
Speaker 2: And he was already dead because he was a frozen
Speaker 2: chunk of ice cube in the airplane. And then somehow,
Speaker 2: all on its own, the airplane decided to open some
Speaker 2: kind of hatch and his body was ejected from the
Speaker 2: airplane and just went spiraling through the air landed on
Speaker 2: this guy's back patio. He comes out in his bathrobe.
Speaker 2: That's definitely not something you'd expect to see on a
Speaker 2: Sunday morning in your bathrobe' So like, oh, I think
Speaker 2: I might do a little barbecuing today. I think I might,
Speaker 2: you know, refill the bird feeders, enjoy and relax a
Speaker 2: peaceful Sunday morning. No, you got a frozen, dead ass
Speaker 2: corpse sky falling onto your back patio and shattering into
Speaker 2: a million pieces. Now let's turn on our conspiracy brains
Speaker 2: for a second. Let's say there's many possible options here,
Speaker 2: but let's say it was a stowaway who got trapped
Speaker 2: in the airplane, somehow turned into an icicle and then
Speaker 2: fell out of the plane. Why would the airplane open
Speaker 2: like it's a commercial it's like a passenger airplane. It's
Speaker 2: like Delta fucking flying over a neighborhood. Why would the
Speaker 2: airplane suddenly open to eject this sky It doesn't make
Speaker 2: sense to me. That would have freaked out all the
Speaker 2: passengers if they're Oh, by the way, if you hear something,
Speaker 2: we're just opening up whatever under the plane. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: throw out this dead guy. Secondly, how is it? And
Speaker 2: maybe I'm just retarded. If he was a stowaway, why
Speaker 2: was he in a frozen block of ice. It wasn't
Speaker 2: in the middle of winter. This was summertime. You know.
Speaker 2: I know it gets cold the higher up you go
Speaker 2: or whatever, but a frozen block of ice. And then
Speaker 2: the airplane opens just in time to expel this guy.
Speaker 2: So he falls out over a neighborhood. And the guy
Speaker 2: was never identified. Like if that happened to me, I'd
Speaker 2: be like following up and shit, like, who's DNA do
Speaker 2: I have all over this patio? And do they have
Speaker 2: a cousin or a spouse or something that's gonna reimburst
Speaker 2: me for the damage to my patio? Like I get
Speaker 2: at rip and everything. I got a patio I gotta fix.
Speaker 2: Does he have a life insurance policy? What's the name?
Speaker 2: I can look for it under? All right? So, and
Speaker 2: does homeowners cover that? Like that's the call you wouldn't
Speaker 2: want to make it to your homeowner's insurance. Yes, I
Speaker 2: have a problem I need to report. I'd like to
Speaker 2: open up a case file for my back patio. It's
Speaker 2: caved the fucking dead frozen chunk of ice. Did ass
Speaker 2: corpse busted up my patio? And I was gonna have
Speaker 2: people over next weekend? And now I can't because there's
Speaker 2: blood and guts all over my fucking brand new fucking
Speaker 2: patio shit furniture, and who's gonna pay for But anyways,
Speaker 2: I'd just be thinking about stuff like this, like the
Speaker 2: guy never got identified. It was never explained how he
Speaker 2: turned into a frozen block of ice and why he
Speaker 2: was dumped out of a passenger airplane over a neighborhood.
Speaker 2: Just dot dot dot, I guess remains to be seen,
Speaker 2: little creepy, little weird hopefully. You know, just when you
Speaker 2: go out of your house, people look for the kimtrails,
Speaker 2: look for you know, they'd be spraying us and shit,
Speaker 2: but also frozen dead ass corpse falling unidentified bodies in
Speaker 2: the sky. This is America. You never know what you're
Speaker 2: gonna get. Okay, maybe a according to Trump. Now, second
Speaker 2: story I heard about, Okay, this one, and you can
Speaker 2: google it. I'm about to google it right now because
Speaker 2: I forgot the name of the team. And this will
Speaker 2: add credibility to this shit, cause you guys be thinking
Speaker 2: I make this stuff up. Okay, nineteen ninety eight, the
Speaker 2: Democratic Republic of the Congo. All right, eleven players from
Speaker 2: one soccer team worst, This is okay, The soccer team
Speaker 2: was the binadash Shadi Tashadi team, uh whatever, who cares?
Speaker 2: Democratic Republic of the Congo okay, nineteen ninety eight. During
Speaker 2: this soccer match, eleven players from the Tashati team were
Speaker 2: all simultaneously struck by lightning, and nobody from the other team.
Speaker 2: Not a fucking thing happened to him, No lightning bolt,
Speaker 2: nothing going on, okay. And thirty of the fans for
Speaker 2: the Tashati team were somehow got a blowback lightning thing
Speaker 2: going on and suffered severe like third degree burns, and
Speaker 2: none of the fans from the other team.
Speaker 1: Got sizzled.
Speaker 2: So it's a little interesting to me, okay. And this again,
Speaker 2: you can google it all right. The whole team, the
Speaker 2: whole team, just that team, eleven players simultaneously struck by
Speaker 2: lightning and if you remember, and then thirty of their
Speaker 2: fans scorched, sizzled, burnt, roasted. Okay. And apparently there's several
Speaker 2: other instances of this happening. Peru November twenty twenty four,
Speaker 2: Ohio June twenty twenty five, South Africa twenty eighteen, Sunshine Coast, Australia,
Speaker 2: October twenty twenty five. So you tell me. Okay, it's
Speaker 2: not even just a one off case. Several times this
Speaker 2: has happened apparently. Now this is some hoodoo voodoo the
Speaker 2: democratic of the Congo that it sounds like some shit
Speaker 2: that they would be doing. Right, let's be real ritualism.
Speaker 2: But it makes me think of the Brazil episode because
Speaker 2: they be consorting with witch doctors who do voodoo witchcraft
Speaker 2: stuff controlling the weather. That's one of the things that
Speaker 2: they're known to be fucking with. The bitch with the
Speaker 2: more Gallants. Sorry, the young woman who may or may
Speaker 2: not be on the verge of a psychotic break from
Speaker 2: the SRA Part one and two. She got struck by lightning. Okay,
Speaker 2: there was that other guy I mentioned in that episode
Speaker 2: who kept getting struck by lightning, So weather manipulation is real. Okay.
Speaker 2: They sizzled the whole soccer team in thirty fans, so
Speaker 2: be careful who you support out there, all right, might
Speaker 2: not want to wear one of their jerseys to Walmart.
Speaker 2: Okay if you fan, keep that shit a secret, or
Speaker 2: else get hit by lightning and have more Gallan's disease
Speaker 2: and shit, I don't know what to tell you. Google it.
Speaker 2: It happened Okay, we live in a world where this.
Speaker 2: We live in a world where these things are possible. Now,
Speaker 2: imagine being a fan of this soccer team, living in
Speaker 2: the Democratic Republic of the Congo, and be sitting okay,
Speaker 2: on your back patio, dead frozen guy falls on your
Speaker 2: back patio blood and gets everywhere, and you're like, you
Speaker 2: know what, I think I'm gonna cheer myself up by
Speaker 2: going to this soccer game. Later, your whole team gets
Speaker 2: simultaneously struck by lightning and you get third degree burned,
Speaker 2: scorched rightness seat. This is the world we live in.
Speaker 2: It's a paranormal, supernatural, unbelievable, disgusting, gross, horrific, horrendous, terrifying
Speaker 2: place to live. So watch your six enjoy this episode.
Speaker 2: You know, we can enjoy the simple things in life.
Speaker 2: And I got a little bit of another watch party
Speaker 2: for us today. I might skip through some stuff. Now,
Speaker 2: call me retarded, but I really hadn't never heard of
Speaker 2: this woman before. Apparently she's a little bit infamous and
Speaker 2: maybe a little bit also on the verge of a
Speaker 2: psychotic break I did. Now, this is why I'm skeptical
Speaker 2: of this woman. Okay, because apparently she's popped up everywhere,
Speaker 2: But I still feel like it's worth hearing the whole
Speaker 2: testimonial from her, okay, and then we can decide as
Speaker 2: we go along if we believe it or not. But
Speaker 2: I seen this bitch on Facebook ads because I'd be
Speaker 2: scrolling through there, you know, watching mom videos and looking
Speaker 2: for free furniture on Facebook marketplace, as one tends to do,
Speaker 2: and she popped up on an ad trying to sell
Speaker 2: some kind of hippie, dippy nonsense oil to rub on
Speaker 2: your taint, to conjure spirits or something like that, some
Speaker 2: blue lotus maringa taint rub. And I was like, oh
Speaker 2: my god, that's that bitch from that video saying she
Speaker 2: was an Siray survivor. The same, the very same bitch
Speaker 2: from that video saying she was an SIRA survivor. Now
Speaker 2: she's on ads for maringa taint rub. Like, what's going
Speaker 2: on with this woman? She's attractive, well spoken, got a
Speaker 2: vibe about her, you know what I mean. And I'm
Speaker 2: wondering if she might not be just like an actress
Speaker 2: faking a lot of this stuff, or if maybe she
Speaker 2: is telling the truth, Maybe she is an SRA survivor,
Speaker 2: and now she's just moved on with her life and
Speaker 2: she sells blue lotus maringa taint rub to conjure the
Speaker 2: Cundalini's and the Tordolini's and whatever else behole Leni's vage
Speaker 2: hold teenis whatever. I don't be doing this stuff. You
Speaker 2: might you guys might know more about it. But this
Speaker 2: woman popped up as like you know, on YouTube, and
Speaker 2: I watched the video or whatever, like SRA Survivor. Her
Speaker 2: name definitely sounds made up, okay, Her name definitely sound
Speaker 2: like a porn star name somebody who would be selling
Speaker 2: Couci Tordolini rub. All right, that definitely okay, matches with
Speaker 2: her profile. But could this be a real person who
Speaker 2: really went through some traumatic stuff and just moved on
Speaker 2: with their life or is this someone who has been
Speaker 2: planted and she it's like stage two, you know, she's
Speaker 2: planted to throw some weirdness in with the authentic, genuine
Speaker 2: SRA Survivor testimonies to kind of discredit them, like, oh,
Speaker 2: look at this, you know, bitch, she's saying all this
Speaker 2: whatever whatever this yeah, And the third thing, this is wild,
Speaker 2: This is crazy. This is the most bizarre shit I've
Speaker 2: ever heard. And if she's lying, they're probably all lying,
Speaker 2: So take that for what you will. Maybe she is
Speaker 2: planted and staged or whatever. But I do think it's
Speaker 2: interesting and we can kind of unpack this together as
Speaker 2: we go. But let me sure my screen. Hang on,
Speaker 2: let me pull this shit up her because I'd be slacking.
Speaker 2: I get so excited to chat with my besties. I
Speaker 2: forget to pull up the videos and stuff. All right,
Speaker 2: here we go, hang on, all right. The bitch name
Speaker 2: is Teal Swan, okay, and she wants you to teal
Speaker 2: your swan with her tordolini rub And this is the
Speaker 2: kind of thing she'd be doing. I read all the comments.
Speaker 2: You know, she's talking about all the things we know about,
Speaker 2: and everybody in the comments section is let's make this
Speaker 2: go viral. You know, she's the strongest woman I know, and.
Speaker 4: This and that.
Speaker 2: So people are really buying into this stuff. And I
Speaker 2: definitely think she has an interesting story to tell. Whether
Speaker 2: or not all the bits and pieces biscuits and gravy
Speaker 2: are true remains to be seen. But let's watch it together.
Speaker 2: We'll unpack it, discuss it, and go from there.
Speaker 1: Do you have my checks and everything? We're good?
Speaker 4: Okay, so we'll just go ahead and get started just
Speaker 4: for the my check and so we have it on record.
Speaker 4: Can I have you say and spell your name.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's Teals Loe t e ao Am.
Speaker 4: Okay, And I'm just gonna have you just kind of
Speaker 4: tell me your story from six years old on.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, Well I should probably start before then,
Speaker 1: because this all started basically when I was really young,
Speaker 1: and I started exhibiting these types of abilities basically, and
Speaker 1: regardless of whether somebody does or doesn't believe in extra
Speaker 1: sensory abilities or psychic behavior or else being able to
Speaker 1: heal someone with energy stuff like this, there are a
Speaker 1: lot of people in the world who do believe in
Speaker 1: those things, and a lot of religions that believe in
Speaker 1: those things. Right, So when I was younger, I would
Speaker 1: put my hands on people and they'd experience healings, or
Speaker 1: I would talk to them from the standpoint of their
Speaker 1: dead relatives stuff like that. And I was also able
Speaker 1: to see the org field what I now understand is
Speaker 1: the ORG field. So I would be talking to people
Speaker 1: about things that I technically shouldn't know at that age,
Speaker 1: and it was a little off putting to my parents,
Speaker 1: super scary to them if I wanted to be honest,
Speaker 1: to have this kid who they were really scientific, not
Speaker 1: even religious people, and so to have this kid with
Speaker 1: all these these interesting abilities was like, WHOA, we don't
Speaker 1: know what to do with this. So it's really important
Speaker 1: to understand that, because it's the real basis for why
Speaker 1: I was brought in like I was. So my parents
Speaker 1: they ended up being offered a job, a wilderness forced
Speaker 1: ranger job in this like rural area in between Idaho
Speaker 1: and Utah, and I don't know if they were super
Speaker 1: aware of just how intensely religious everything was in the
Speaker 1: state before they moved, and so they weren't really thinking
Speaker 1: about whether it would be a major impact on me. Now,
Speaker 1: when I got here as a kid, you don't you're
Speaker 1: not really socialized yet, so you don't know what's normal
Speaker 1: what's not normal. So I would just do what it
Speaker 1: was normal, and I'd say, go to class. My first
Speaker 1: few times going to school was not good. I'd go
Speaker 1: up to the teacher and I'd be like having conversations
Speaker 1: with her about something that her dead father that had
Speaker 1: wanted to say to her, or things like that. And
Speaker 1: it just happens that the most dominant religion in the
Speaker 1: area that I grew up in is Mormonism, and the
Speaker 1: Mormonism they believe in this concept that all of the
Speaker 1: God given abilities, which are some of the things that
Speaker 1: I'm demonstrating, extra sensory abilities, the ability to heal people,
Speaker 1: the ability to give blessings, stuff like that that is
Speaker 1: seen as a gift from God to Joseph Smith and
Speaker 1: from Joseph Smith to men in the church. And so
Speaker 1: women technically could not hold priesthood, which are something that
Speaker 1: abused these abilities. So if a woman is exhibiting these abilities,
Speaker 1: they believed at that time that it was a gift
Speaker 1: of the devil. So it like raised the hackles on
Speaker 1: the back of the neck of a lot of people
Speaker 1: that were in this really small community that was near us,
Speaker 1: and they you know how word travels at church in
Speaker 1: small towns. It was like this person told that person,
Speaker 1: told this person told that person, and it was like
Speaker 1: mass ostracization. They did not want me playing with their children,
Speaker 1: They didn't want me going into their houses, they didn't
Speaker 1: want any interaction whatsoever. They weren't seeing my parents at
Speaker 1: sacrament meeting. They were super upset about that. So after
Speaker 1: aggressively trying to convert my family and it not working.
Speaker 1: They kind of gave up and they pulled the term
Speaker 1: the other cheek type of mentality. But the issue there
Speaker 1: is that you've got all these splinter groups off of
Speaker 1: the Mormon religion, right, So you've got the FLDS, which
Speaker 1: is what most people are super familiar with. They're fundamental Mormons.
Speaker 1: They believe in the idea of polygamy. Now there are
Speaker 1: other splinter groups. One of these is a cult which
Speaker 1: operates in Utah and Idaho mainly, and it's called the
Speaker 1: Blood Covenant. They believe in blood atonement, so they've attached
Speaker 1: to that doctrine in the same way that the FLDS
Speaker 1: attached to the idea of polygamy. And blood atonement basically,
Speaker 1: which is something which Brigham Young was obsessive about. He
Speaker 1: would talk about this on lots of his pulpit speeches.
Speaker 1: You can look it up if you want to. Blood
Speaker 1: atonement is basically the idea that there are some sins
Speaker 1: which can't be paid for by the death of Christ.
Speaker 1: It has to be paid for by the blood of man.
Speaker 1: So there's a really famous pulpit speech where he basically
Speaker 1: stood up in front of the people and said, if
Speaker 1: your neighbor commits adultery, if you love him, you will
Speaker 1: kill him. So this particular group has latched onto those
Speaker 1: teachings and has used it to justify all kinds of things,
Speaker 1: which is of course at an issue in all religions.
Speaker 1: It's like it's up to so much interpretation that let's
Speaker 1: say that you've got your basic sociopath or psychopath. Now
Speaker 1: they can infiltrate a church basically, and they can use
Speaker 1: those teachings to justify what they're doing. So a lot
Speaker 1: of the people that are in this covenant group are
Speaker 1: like super deviant, like psychotically deviant, and so if you're
Speaker 1: growing up like, for example, there was a family that
Speaker 1: I grew up around in this cult where it's the
Speaker 1: kids would steal something from like the cupboards, and like
Speaker 1: a kid tries to go take a cookie, they would
Speaker 1: slit their wrists and lead them over a sink for
Speaker 1: like an allotted amount of time. And that was just
Speaker 1: a normal punishment. So it's like the Mormon version of
Speaker 1: the Catholic penitentes, where in suffering and in bleeding you
Speaker 1: will basically be absolved in your sins. So I was
Speaker 1: caught on the radar of this particular cult group. And
Speaker 1: I don't know exactly how that happened, but there was
Speaker 1: a member of that particular group who actually knew my
Speaker 1: mother from previous to when I was born, and I
Speaker 1: didn't know any of that, by the way, So at
Speaker 1: this point, I'm like four or five, and I didn't
Speaker 1: know any of that background story. But my mother was
Speaker 1: trying to get me around friends because I had none,
Speaker 1: and so there was a girl who was in my
Speaker 1: kindergarten class, I think it was, and she thought, okay, well,
Speaker 1: it's a good opportunity to get her around them because
Speaker 1: they're not Mormon. She didn't know what they were, but
Speaker 1: they weren't Mormon, So let's get her to go over
Speaker 1: to this girl's house and see if she can make friend.
Speaker 1: I was a wickedly shy child, so she brought me
Speaker 1: over to that house. And the first time that I
Speaker 1: played with that girl at her house on her own
Speaker 1: was when I found out that her father was actually
Speaker 1: part of a Satanic cult. So this is a whole
Speaker 1: separate cult which exists in this area. And I don't
Speaker 1: know exactly what rank he held in this particular Satanic religion,
Speaker 1: but that first night that we went over there and
Speaker 1: I had my first sleep with her. The father was
Speaker 1: taking pornographic photographs of the daughter and I in his
Speaker 1: little basement area. Now this is it's like he like
Speaker 1: sadomasochistic porn. So when I was down there, there was
Speaker 1: a man who walked down the stairs who would of
Speaker 1: course turn into this person who pulled me into everything,
Speaker 1: my keeper they call it. Who was this man who
Speaker 1: knew my mother previously? But he basically came downstairs with
Speaker 1: these buckets full of cowblood that he had purchased from
Speaker 1: or I assume purchased maybe was just given from the
Speaker 1: slaughterhouse which is in town in hiram Utah, and the
Speaker 1: father then put the blood over us and then kept
Speaker 1: taking pictures of us kissing each other and touching each
Speaker 1: other things like that. So I assumed that he was
Speaker 1: selling those photographs or whatever else. And then probably two
Speaker 1: or three times more I went with her to satanic
Speaker 1: rituals that were taking place with those people. I had
Speaker 1: no idea what the hell was going on with them.
Speaker 1: I was super shy. He that father was not like
Speaker 1: as deviant as the rest of the people that I
Speaker 1: would meet, So he was doing the really confusing back
Speaker 1: and forth stuff with his daughter a lot where one
Speaker 1: minute he'd be doing stuff like that, the next minute
Speaker 1: he'd be like, you're so beautiful. You know I love you, right,
Speaker 1: this is our little secret. So but the real reason
Speaker 1: I'm telling you this whole thing because that is where
Speaker 1: I got on the radars of this particular guy who
Speaker 1: would become pretty much my number one abuser and what
Speaker 1: they call a keeper in the group was just this man.
Speaker 1: So that summer he ended up targeting me. I was walking,
Speaker 1: not walking, I was riding my little Huffey bike sort
Speaker 1: of down below my house in a Mormon steakhouse building
Speaker 1: parking lot, and he had come up behind me, basically
Speaker 1: drugged me off the Huffey bike, took me into this
Speaker 1: the steakhouse, and then pushed me down to the ground
Speaker 1: on my face and I was raped by him. That
Speaker 1: was the first time I was ever raped and my
Speaker 1: first interaction with that man specifically, and he picks me up,
Speaker 1: put me back on the Hoffey bike and rode me
Speaker 1: back towards the house. Now, I was completely convinced at
Speaker 1: this point that I had been in trouble for riding
Speaker 1: my bike somewhere that I wasn't supposed to be. I
Speaker 1: knew Mormons hated us like we were no Mormon. Of
Speaker 1: course I shouldn't be around the stakehouse. But it's just
Speaker 1: like sad.
Speaker 2: Where are the fucking parents?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: Am I crazy or something? Or did I just have
Speaker 2: like a hyper vigilant mother. If I went and spent
Speaker 2: the fucking night at a friend's house, she called me
Speaker 2: at the friend's house, what you do? And how are Yeah?
Speaker 2: Is the dad weird things like this? Okay? And when
Speaker 2: she'd either pick me up at the friend's house or
Speaker 2: if I got dropped off, the first thing she'd say
Speaker 2: is what did you guys do? Did you have a
Speaker 2: good time? You know, fill me in on all the details.
Speaker 2: Did you braid each other's fucking hair? Did you fucking
Speaker 2: do makeup parties? What movies did you watch?
Speaker 1: What did you do?
Speaker 2: Okay? Where are the pair runs? Okay?
Speaker 5: And I get it.
Speaker 2: She looks a little bit older than me, but probably
Speaker 2: still a nineties kid. Okay, maybe late eighties early nineties kid.
Speaker 2: Parents were a little bit more relaxed back then. But
Speaker 2: nobody's asking. Nobody's asking, Like if I would have come
Speaker 2: home from a friend's house and said, Mom, you know,
Speaker 2: we threw blood on each other and we got naked
Speaker 2: and Jessica's dad took pictures. No, no, okay, And there
Speaker 2: would have been at least a phone call, at least
Speaker 2: one phone call from my mom that night. Hey, Julia,
Speaker 2: your mom's on the phone. She wants to talk to you.
Speaker 2: Every single time I spent the night at a friend's house, okay,
Speaker 2: and most of the time she would say, I think
Speaker 2: their house is dirty, they need to come spend the
Speaker 2: night with us. Or I don't like you know, I
Speaker 2: don't like Whitney's dad. He gives me the creeps. She
Speaker 2: needs to come spend the night over here, all right?
Speaker 2: So I mean, is it just me or is it
Speaker 2: not weird? Sometimes, like you hear these stories and you
Speaker 2: think to yourself, where the fuck was your mom.
Speaker 5: Mean that?
Speaker 1: I thought that that was my fault, of course at
Speaker 1: that protected point, but I tried to ride my Hoffy
Speaker 1: bike home. It didn't work. I pulled it out of
Speaker 1: the side of the road and then ran into the
Speaker 1: field that was by it because I couldn't. I was
Speaker 1: really torn up. I was bleeding and so I couldn't
Speaker 1: ride my Hofey bike. So I ran off into this
Speaker 1: side of this field and just sat there like in
Speaker 1: complete shock, and my whole reality fell to pieces, because
Speaker 1: up until that point, it's like you sort of assume
Speaker 1: that your parents are going to be these omniscient, omnipotent
Speaker 1: beings that pick you up before you were about to
Speaker 1: fall off a cliff or something. And that's the real
Speaker 1: moment that your childhood in is and you realize that
Speaker 1: they're not there. Ever. You know, not only are they
Speaker 1: not there, they can't protect you from a lot of things.
Speaker 1: A lot of things are a lot bigger than you
Speaker 1: when you're you know, six years older, five or sick
Speaker 1: over it was in Yeah, So from from six years
Speaker 1: old on this is when it really got intense because
Speaker 1: he figured out he managed like a lot of like
Speaker 1: real sociopathic people do. He managed to figure out enough
Speaker 1: about my family and enough about what I was doing
Speaker 1: that he cornered me at a horse lesson that I
Speaker 1: was working at. He was a veterinarian, so he worked
Speaker 1: actually with the horses that I was taking lessons on,
Speaker 1: and so I was riding around one day and got
Speaker 1: off of the horse and my instructor left me alone
Speaker 1: for a little bit, walked into the house and here
Speaker 1: is this guy. So I'm watching him tie this slit knot,
Speaker 1: which they tie with horses, and I was super fascinated
Speaker 1: with it at that age, and I was kind of like,
Speaker 1: I remember this feeling of paralysis coming over me looking
Speaker 1: at this guy, remembering like what it was that he
Speaker 1: had done, you know. But he turned over when nobody
Speaker 1: was around because she had gone inside and don't remember
Speaker 1: what to get. But he took my throat, pushing me
Speaker 1: up against the side of the building and said, you
Speaker 1: don't know what your life is. You have no idea
Speaker 1: who I am. But I'm your real father and your
Speaker 1: mother is a whore. And if you say anything about
Speaker 1: the fact that we have talked to each other, your
Speaker 1: whole entire family's gonna die. And he's like, you better
Speaker 1: look out for me, a girl. It's basically he said.
Speaker 1: So I was like, oh, how old were you? I
Speaker 1: was six of that, okay, But it was in between
Speaker 1: a sort of like before I started first grade. No,
Speaker 1: this is where it gets super like, super complicated because
Speaker 1: of the nature of this particular man. But I was
Speaker 1: like from that moment on, because he cornered me like that.
Speaker 1: And when you were little like, we got to understand this.
Speaker 1: When you're little, you have no reason to disbelieve an
Speaker 1: adult none. So if a guy says he's gonna kill
Speaker 1: your family, he's gonna hear a family. There's no there's
Speaker 1: no like if ans or butts about that. So this
Speaker 1: guy had already managed to figure out that that my
Speaker 1: family and I were not a good match. We'll put
Speaker 1: it that way. It's like, you know, people would love
Speaker 1: me to say my parents were fabulous. I just got
Speaker 1: sort of taken, but the reality is is that I
Speaker 1: didn't get along as my family and especially my mother.
Speaker 1: I was like majorly ostracized in the family that I
Speaker 1: grew up in. So sociopaths often like to capitalize on that,
Speaker 1: like the kid that doesn't fit or the kid no
Speaker 1: one relates to. They're like usually really quiet and sort
Speaker 1: of off to the corn. That's a really good venue
Speaker 1: for them to kind of get in between the parents
Speaker 1: and the kid, which is exactly what he did. So
Speaker 1: when he told me that he would be there, that
Speaker 1: was like I really look at that as sort of
Speaker 1: the end of my whole childhood because from that moment on,
Speaker 1: it's like it doesn't matter whether I'm going on a
Speaker 1: hike with my family or a camping trip, or whether
Speaker 1: I'm at school, there's always a part of me that's like,
Speaker 1: where is he going to be? It's that scary sort
Speaker 1: of he's all around and could be anywhere at any
Speaker 1: point type of thing which drives you nuts when you're
Speaker 1: in this kind of a situation. So that's when he
Speaker 1: started systematically without my parents' knowledge, taking me places, like
Speaker 1: he'd take me from dance class. Sometimes he takes me
Speaker 1: from school. And we have to understand too. When I
Speaker 1: went to school, it was not like it is now.
Speaker 1: You don't have to you didn't have to like take
Speaker 1: pictures of people who could pick your kid up. Nobody
Speaker 1: knew about this stuff, especially not in the bigger cities.
Speaker 1: I mean, everything hits rural towns like five years too later,
Speaker 1: ten years too late, So nobody really thought that this
Speaker 1: was a possibility. And so what would happen is he
Speaker 1: sent me to school after the first time, of course,
Speaker 1: of like just calling the school and saying Tilney's to
Speaker 1: meet us outside, and then me walking outside having a
Speaker 1: beIN there instead of my parents, he would send me
Speaker 1: to school in my lunch box with these notes written
Speaker 1: from my parents that I was to hand in after
Speaker 1: they took role, and they would say, tilneys to come
Speaker 1: to gymnastics class or something, and we're going to pick
Speaker 1: her up at this time. And my little elementary school
Speaker 1: was on the grounds of a college campus. Edith Bowen
Speaker 1: was where I went to, and so they couldn't monitor
Speaker 1: like where people were or weren't. There's adults all the
Speaker 1: time wandering in and out of the children because it
Speaker 1: was on a college campus, so it wasn't like there
Speaker 1: would be any red flags if there was a random
Speaker 1: person that showed up. And so he would say park
Speaker 1: his truck and then I would get out, and they'd
Speaker 1: be like, g you need someone walk you out. I'd
Speaker 1: say no, and so I'd go out and I'd get
Speaker 1: in his car and then he have me gone for
Speaker 1: the whole day and then bring me back and drop
Speaker 1: me off before my parents would pick me up. So
Speaker 1: that was a routine that went on for a while.
Speaker 1: Then he stole me out of bed a few times
Speaker 1: as well. Before he trained me to wake up, which
Speaker 1: was quite easy for him to do. He just employed
Speaker 1: like your basic pav laws response stuff. So I would
Speaker 1: wake up three twenty two am, walk out to the
Speaker 1: end of the driveway and he'd pick me up and
Speaker 1: we'd go do these cult rituals. So this is so
Speaker 1: I'll explain this person. The context of my childhood isn't
Speaker 1: going to make sense unless I do that. Because the
Speaker 1: particular man who was what they call my keeper in
Speaker 1: this group had multiple personality issues, like big ones where
Speaker 1: one minute you'd call him by one name and he
Speaker 1: wouldn't even know who you were talking to, you know,
Speaker 1: and then he'd have these So basically he had these
Speaker 1: like a personality which I would often call Doc, who
Speaker 1: was like the all knowing, the one that most people
Speaker 1: in the society saw. And he was like a really educated,
Speaker 1: he super charismatic or typical sociopath type of a person
Speaker 1: who could have just pulled one on anybody. He was
Speaker 1: really friendly, really charming, super handsome, So that was that personality.
Speaker 1: The other personality, which he called eggnever ironically, was like
Speaker 1: super evil and was part of these satanic groups. So
Speaker 1: here we have this dichotomy. So you've got the multiple
Speaker 1: personalities with this person. And depending on which personality he had,
Speaker 1: he belonged to this group or this group. He belonged
Speaker 1: to two cults. One cult was that satanic cult. The
Speaker 1: other cult was the Blood Covenant Cult. Now it gets
Speaker 1: ironic is that they're against each other. This is where
Speaker 1: if you really want to know about some messed up
Speaker 1: stuff that happens when you're too bored in a rural
Speaker 1: town and have some issues, the Blood Covenant Cult doesn't
Speaker 1: take the opinion.
Speaker 2: Now, this shit is what I'm talking about. You know,
Speaker 2: when people are lying, this story seems to like feel
Speaker 2: scripted and shit. And this is a lot of detail, right,
Speaker 2: he would have had split personality, and he belonged to
Speaker 2: two Warren Colts, and he was this guy to this
Speaker 2: cult and this guy to this I mean, it's getting
Speaker 2: at the horseback riding and stuff, the notes for this
Speaker 2: to get out of school and stuff. It does seem
Speaker 2: a little detailed and specific. So I'm gonna say points
Speaker 2: towards the truth on this, points towards her being a fake,
Speaker 2: staged porn star, couchy rubs selling psychotic woman the name
Speaker 2: Teal Swan. She's got horrible extensions in right now, some
Speaker 2: kind of Pirates of the Caribbean shirt on wherever she's
Speaker 2: at right now is giving me the creeps. Why would
Speaker 2: you paint all your walls white like this, have a
Speaker 2: random two by four in the background in some grandma desk.
Speaker 2: They need work on their background. But let's continue and turn.
Speaker 1: The other cheek. They don't agree with that. What they
Speaker 1: believe is that it's your direct job to rid the
Speaker 1: earth of evil. So they're aware that there are Satanic
Speaker 1: groups that operate in the towns that they're living in.
Speaker 1: So what they do is they use somebody that's part
Speaker 1: of the group to infiltrate the Satanic group so that
Speaker 1: they can hold counter rituals. So let's say that and
Speaker 1: Satanic people have, like if you look at their calendar year,
Speaker 1: it's at least once or twice a month they have
Speaker 1: some kind of holiday. So what they'll do say if
Speaker 1: they have like a black Sabbath day, is that they
Speaker 1: the next day, the Blood Covenant group will will like
Speaker 1: hold it return back to the Light of Christ type
Speaker 1: of ritual. So and it's like here you have mainstream
Speaker 1: Mormonism and mainstream society, and they're completely unaware of these
Speaker 1: things that are happening on the undercurrent here of these
Speaker 1: two rival groups basically that are more than aware of
Speaker 1: each other. So the man I was with was attending
Speaker 1: both of these ceremonies, but saying to the Blood Covenant
Speaker 1: group that he was just doing the Satanic Group stuff
Speaker 1: for the sake of holding counter riginals. So they're like, okay, good, yeah,
Speaker 1: you can continue to do that because it benefits us.
Speaker 1: But from my perspective, he actually liked that and was
Speaker 1: really participating with it. So that's where it got super complicated.
Speaker 1: But over the course of so that was when I
Speaker 1: was six, it was when I was infiltrating. I infiltrated
Speaker 1: these groups with him. He was using me in the
Speaker 1: Satanic Group as look at her abilities. She's got all
Speaker 1: these amazing abilities. You can use them to invoke the
Speaker 1: devil and demons and things like that. And then simultaneously
Speaker 1: I'm getting like tortured by the Blood Covenant group because
Speaker 1: it was their idea that they could get the demon
Speaker 1: out of me. That was their whole philosophy. The reason
Speaker 1: that I could do this stuff is that my body
Speaker 1: was taken over by a demon and that when I
Speaker 1: was two, I kicked that spirit out and I took
Speaker 1: it over it basically, and that if they could get
Speaker 1: this demon out, that that spirit would come back. That
Speaker 1: was the whole thing. So they went to work like
Speaker 1: bleeding me, doing all kinds of horrific stuff to try
Speaker 1: to get me to come back to Christ. So my
Speaker 1: childhood from age what I consider six, even though technically
Speaker 1: it started beforehand, but it was when I really consider
Speaker 1: like the end of my childhood, when I got brought
Speaker 1: into them and I really didn't belong to my parents anymore.
Speaker 1: All the way to nineteen, I was with these groups,
Speaker 1: and specifically with this man. Now, when you are part
Speaker 1: of a lot of these groups, and now we're talking
Speaker 1: Satanic specifically, what they'll do is they'll assign somebody like me.
Speaker 1: They call me an oracle. An oracles is a role
Speaker 1: where somebody has the ability to access the underworld or whatever.
Speaker 1: So we oracles are not actually allowed to take care
Speaker 1: of ourselves at all. Now, having grown up, I can
Speaker 1: see that this is just a ploy, of course, to
Speaker 1: keep us completely dependent, unable to leave. But we are
Speaker 1: not able to cook for ourselves, we're not able to
Speaker 1: clean for ourselves, we're not able to do any self
Speaker 1: care type of behavior. Instead assigned a keeper. Of course,
Speaker 1: it was obvious, let's just give her to the person
Speaker 1: who brought her to us, right, which is this particular guy.
Speaker 1: And he becomes the keeper role. So his job is
Speaker 1: to make sure that I am where I'm supposed to be.
Speaker 1: He's the one driving me, he's the one feeding me.
Speaker 1: He's the one that's making sure things are the way
Speaker 1: they are now. The reason that my childhood is a
Speaker 1: lot more complicated than most is because I didn't get
Speaker 1: outright taken away from my parents and kept somewhere without
Speaker 1: their knowledge. What happened is that he ended up when
Speaker 1: I the older that I got. When I was eight
Speaker 1: years old, my parents decided to get me a horse.
Speaker 1: So there was his perfect opportunity to come into the
Speaker 1: family and like really weasel his way in there so
Speaker 1: that knowledgeably they would give me to him. Basically, he
Speaker 1: was like, okay, I'll be your vet for your horse,
Speaker 1: and I'll teach her everything she needs to know about horses.
Speaker 1: And my parents, you know, in their defense, they were like,
Speaker 1: I don't know what to do with this kid. She's
Speaker 1: obviously miserable. We have no idea why she's got these abilities.
Speaker 1: We don't understand, we don't really relate to her, and
Speaker 1: so if we can find somebody that could help her
Speaker 1: with something, then let's just do that. And so thinking
Speaker 1: that it would be like a mentorship. They allowed me
Speaker 1: to go on weekends with him up to his house
Speaker 1: or on rounds during the day, stuff like that, thinking
Speaker 1: the whole time that you know, at least somebody knows
Speaker 1: how to help her. But he was creating the very
Speaker 1: condition that he said that he was solving. Basically, yeah,
Speaker 1: so that's that's how we'll start. I don't know what
Speaker 1: else to say. This is the sort of issues they're like,
Speaker 1: there's so many details you're going over like thirteen years
Speaker 1: basically of really horror like shit. There's so many, so
Speaker 1: many things that happened. It's like hard for me to
Speaker 1: know exactly which ones people want to hear about and
Speaker 1: chronologically lay them out.
Speaker 4: So you can keep going, I mean all the way
Speaker 4: upstrough when you got out and whatever you're comfortable talking about.
Speaker 4: I know you said that he took you to his house,
Speaker 4: when what I mean, what sort of things were happening there?
Speaker 1: Well, first time I went to his house, my parents
Speaker 1: llowed me go my first time when I was eight
Speaker 1: years old with my horse. So we went up to
Speaker 1: his house and it was a super rainy day and
Speaker 1: we ended up that night going on this horse ride
Speaker 1: in the rain, and he was training these two horses,
Speaker 1: and he was super sadistic, like really really sadistic, So
Speaker 1: he thought it was super funny. Even though I was petrified,
Speaker 1: even though it was a horse freak, I was super
Speaker 1: petrified at that age of like horses being so small.
Speaker 1: So I was riding this horse that I had just
Speaker 1: barely got for my birthday for the very first time,
Speaker 1: and he had this super insane horse that was just
Speaker 1: barely being trained, who was a twin And with twin horses,
Speaker 1: if you separate the mount basically they throw fits and
Speaker 1: they try to get back to the other one. So
Speaker 1: he thought it was super funny to like let it
Speaker 1: go and let it run up on the back of
Speaker 1: my horse. So when he did that, my horse steps
Speaker 1: over this embankment, which is like this huge drop off,
Speaker 1: and I had this enormous horse fall basically where I
Speaker 1: fell down this embankment and looked up to watch my
Speaker 1: horse fall back over onto her back into a somersault backwards,
Speaker 1: and of course he calms down, he starts yelling. He
Speaker 1: was a real sort of Western Bravado type of a person.
Speaker 1: There was no gentleness about him at all. So he
Speaker 1: stood over me, and he was like, you get back
Speaker 1: on that horse right now. I'm shivering, the horse is shaking.
Speaker 1: I feel paralyzed. Can't do it. Because I didn't do it,
Speaker 1: he threw me down on the floor and then he
Speaker 1: stepped on both of my arms and actually ended up
Speaker 1: paarline fracturing them. So I ended up getting me back
Speaker 1: on my horse rode to the house. Later that night
Speaker 1: he ended up raping me. He had a wife, ironically,
Speaker 1: who was not there then I have no idea where
Speaker 1: he was. And then as punishment, I was put down
Speaker 1: in the basement, which was like this little cement It
Speaker 1: was like a cellar. It's just a cement part of
Speaker 1: his house basically, and like it was common for him
Speaker 1: not to let me do normal things like sleep in beds.
Speaker 1: My place that I could sleep was in the bathtub
Speaker 1: with no blankets, and he would make me eat out
Speaker 1: of the dog bulls and drink out of the dog bulls.
Speaker 1: I wasn't allowed to pee or anything inside. I had
Speaker 1: to go outside for that.
Speaker 4: So that was that.
Speaker 6: That day.
Speaker 1: When I went up there first too, he ended up
Speaker 1: showing me these polaroid pictures, which is where it got
Speaker 1: really creepy. So this man actually killed children. And what
Speaker 1: he would do in his drawer of his office is
Speaker 1: he kept a polaroid camera and with every kid that
Speaker 1: he killed, he would keep a stack of the exact
Speaker 1: same positions that he would take a picture of every
Speaker 1: kid in So one of them was like you had
Speaker 1: to be looking at the camera with your eyes up
Speaker 1: like that because he liked the whites of the eyes
Speaker 1: because that looked super innocent. And then he'd take a
Speaker 1: profile to both sides. Then he'd take a straight up
Speaker 1: and then he would basically he take this stack of
Speaker 1: polaroids and he'd keep them. So he walked me out
Speaker 1: to the back and I didn't see this particular murder
Speaker 1: take place like I saw other ones happen. But he
Speaker 1: took me out to his back place, and he had
Speaker 1: a lawn that sort of abutted this enormous wilderness and
Speaker 1: there was like a piece of earth was obviously dug up,
Speaker 1: and he gave me this polaroid stack of pictures of
Speaker 1: this little like I would say, I would probably guess
Speaker 1: she was a five year old like little blonde girl.
Speaker 1: They told me basically that he was keeping her safe.
Speaker 1: This is where it is. So that was his dysfunction.
Speaker 1: His dysfunction was basically that by having these kids, especially girls,
Speaker 1: in his property, that he could keep from safe that way.
Speaker 1: And so I'm sitting there looking at this picture, looking
Speaker 1: at the grave, looking at the picture. Now, I can't
Speaker 1: tell you that I know for a fact she was there,
Speaker 1: because I didn't witness it, but having seen him kill
Speaker 1: other children after that, I have no reason to doubt
Speaker 1: that that was. What I was seeing was basically these
Speaker 1: polaroids of a kid he had killed and then buried
Speaker 1: in his backyard. So yeah, that was my first really
Speaker 1: lovely introduction to him. Then very quickly after that, he
Speaker 1: started in with the intentional programming. So most people who
Speaker 1: are part of these groups, they get into mental programming,
Speaker 1: and most of the mental programming routines that they carry
Speaker 1: out they have found from these documents, which are mostly
Speaker 1: written in German. I don't know where they've gotten them.
Speaker 1: But one of my first programming sessions was performed in
Speaker 1: a veterinary office. I walked in there and it was
Speaker 1: not just my keeper, it was also another guy who
Speaker 1: had his face was covered in black mesh, like he
Speaker 1: didn't want me to know who he was. Later, I
Speaker 1: did meet him and know exactly who he was, because
Speaker 1: the older you get in these groups, now suddenly you
Speaker 1: become part of the perpetrator circle and you're now working
Speaker 1: on younger children. So at that beginning, I didn't know
Speaker 1: who he was, and he just had that black stocking,
Speaker 1: and so what he was doing was a basic bonding program.
Speaker 1: So if you look at these mental programming sessions that
Speaker 1: they do on children, it's a very it seems complicated,
Speaker 1: but it's actually more easy than it seems. So it's
Speaker 1: basically a twelve program cycle. One of the very first
Speaker 1: things you want to do programming a child is to
Speaker 1: bond them to the perpetrator. So what you do is
Speaker 1: you induce a trauma. So the way that they like
Speaker 1: to do that is to use electric shocks, which is
Speaker 1: super easy. You just buy a kit basically. So I
Speaker 1: was sitting there that first day. They are putting these
Speaker 1: white pads with a little gel underneath them all over
Speaker 1: my body and then they turn on the electric shocks,
Speaker 1: so you get traumatized. I pissed myself. It's like being
Speaker 1: electrocute to this pretty much the most unbearable thing you
Speaker 1: can imagine. So that induces the state of trauma in
Speaker 1: the system. And then what this man was instructing the
Speaker 1: guy to do is, you're not allowed to touch someone
Speaker 1: like me who's being programmed if you're the perpetrator, unless
Speaker 1: you're doing it to specifically bond to the person to you.
Speaker 1: So the way you do that is by becoming in
Speaker 1: like the savior. So the only point at which this
Speaker 1: man was allowed to show me physical affection is when
Speaker 1: I was in a state of trauma. So he induces
Speaker 1: the trauma with that, and then he tells this guy
Speaker 1: and my keeper to hold me. And it's like it's
Speaker 1: a very bizarre sensation, even though this person is the
Speaker 1: one that's traumatizing you. Simultaneously, it's like the relief feeling
Speaker 1: you feel when somebody hugs you, regardless of who they are,
Speaker 1: when you're going through that kind of trauma, it's like
Speaker 1: this unbelievable chemical bond almost that goes on in your body.
Speaker 1: So I remember that feeling of like intense relief and
Speaker 1: just holding onto him after that was happening, and so
Speaker 1: that really creates in the mind this circuitry where I
Speaker 1: love this guy. This guy is the person I'm supposed
Speaker 1: to follow around, and it's like it's we're past love
Speaker 1: at this point. It's like an excessive type of dependence.
Speaker 1: And you'll watch this a lot with victims who have
Speaker 1: been traumatized, and we deliberately in groups, will program for
Speaker 1: it to create a scenario where the person is like
Speaker 1: trauma bonded to the very person who's creating the issue.
Speaker 1: You can observe this in animals even so, like you know,
Speaker 1: the dog who gets kicked by their owner is like
Speaker 1: the one who's underneath them wagging their tail, and they're
Speaker 1: constantly obsessed with whether they're gonna get approval, whether they're
Speaker 1: going to get approval. So, if your life rests in
Speaker 1: somebody's hands, your life is going to be about one thing,
Speaker 1: one thing only, and that's finding approval from that person.
Speaker 1: It's it. So there you have trauma bonding. So my
Speaker 1: relationship with this man from that point on turned to
Speaker 1: this like excessive attachment. I was obsessed with getting his
Speaker 1: approval no matter what, because my life is in his hands.
Speaker 1: And then so we were attending rituals we're doing I mean,
Speaker 1: he was doing messed up stuff with me on his own,
Speaker 1: but we were attending rituals also, rituals where they did
Speaker 1: murder children and animals. Animals was what they did, like
Speaker 1: on your average holiday, but on the big ones, which
Speaker 1: they call black masses, which is probably what the public
Speaker 1: would like to know about most where. Basically, it's where
Speaker 1: basically and it's just mostly Satanic people. These covens of
Speaker 1: like thirteen usually because they believe in thirteen silver moons.
Speaker 1: In a year, there's thirteen full moons, so it's usually
Speaker 1: thirteen members of a Satanic coven. They'll get together with
Speaker 1: other covens in the area for these big black masses
Speaker 1: they call them, and those are on specific days throughout
Speaker 1: the year. So on a few of those I watched
Speaker 1: them actually kill children, and that's when we really got
Speaker 1: into the human sacrifice them, which is what most people
Speaker 1: want to interview me about, you know, because that's like
Speaker 1: so abhorrent and most people can't even imagine that going on.
Speaker 1: So when I got older, I found out how they
Speaker 1: actually found these children. When I was younger, they would
Speaker 1: use me and other kids who are part of the
Speaker 1: groups to entice these children into the car. It's a
Speaker 1: very stereotypical act. All you do is you case the neighborhood,
Speaker 1: which is easy because they're bored and looking for ways
Speaker 1: to excite themselves. And they're really statistic fetishes anyways, So
Speaker 1: they case the neighborhoods for kids that are not being watched.
Speaker 1: Their number one favorite group is children who are part
Speaker 1: of the foster care system. So there's a loophole in
Speaker 1: our foster care system in this United States and West specifically.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's super bad out east, but
Speaker 1: out West as a really bad loophole where basically, if
Speaker 1: you want to foster children, because they're so overrun with
Speaker 1: children to foster, then they'll give you the kid and
Speaker 1: then you get your monthly STIF and check. And so
Speaker 1: there was a lot of these families who especially in
Speaker 1: the Idahoo area that I met, who they foster children,
Speaker 1: not because they really want to foster children, but they
Speaker 1: want that check every month. So these parents are it's
Speaker 1: like really horrific they get these kids from the foster
Speaker 1: care system.
Speaker 2: This is some sick shit right here. Because I just
Speaker 2: sold my I was selling a bunch of stuff on
Speaker 2: Facebook marketplace right and I just sold my baby's crib
Speaker 2: to this lady. She hit me up on Facebook. I
Speaker 2: had it posted for like eighty bucks and she hit
Speaker 2: me with this sob story, and you know, I got
Speaker 2: a delicate heart, okay, you know, I was just not
Speaker 2: in the mood to be hearing about this sad shit,
Speaker 2: and it just killed me. She was like, I'm fostering
Speaker 2: six four month old essentially what we would call crack babies,
Speaker 2: and I just really need a crib. I'm feeding my
Speaker 2: baby right now, his little bottle, a little sweetie, and
Speaker 2: it just I was like, oh my god, this woman
Speaker 2: is literally fostering six four month old little crackheaded babies
Speaker 2: and she needs a crib. She said, I can have
Speaker 2: my son come pick it up right now, would you
Speaker 2: take fifty dollars? And I was like, of course, Like
Speaker 2: that just broke my heart. And you want to think
Speaker 2: that people who sign up for that stuff, okay, people
Speaker 2: who would sign up for fostering six four month old
Speaker 2: little crackheaded babies, they would be like a saint, like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, how sel Flist's this person. I can
Speaker 2: barely handle the one and he's not even crackheaded, okay,
Speaker 2: And then you get to hear and stuff like this,
Speaker 2: And I've heard other foster people, you know, foster kids
Speaker 2: say this by their foster families were horrorball okay, horra baal.
Speaker 2: And you know they don't be looking into who's fostering
Speaker 2: these kids. I bet they don't even really do home
Speaker 2: check ins and shit like that. They get their monthly
Speaker 2: stipend okay for their fosters, and that's what they They
Speaker 2: count on them, a little foster stipend checks to come
Speaker 2: in and they'd be doing some nefarious shit because they
Speaker 2: don't love. There's no way they could be loving these
Speaker 2: kids like they were their own. Okay, it's not realistic
Speaker 2: and it's a shame. That's really fucking fucked up and sad.
Speaker 1: So they tell them I don't want to be watching you,
Speaker 1: so just come home at eight o'clock, and I don't
Speaker 1: want you to come home before eight o'clock. So they're
Speaker 1: wandering around. They go to public school, and then between
Speaker 1: when public school gets out at eight o'clock at night,
Speaker 1: when they're supposed to be home, they are wandering around.
Speaker 1: Basically they have nothing to do. And it's a prime
Speaker 1: target for these groups because they find out these kids,
Speaker 1: they know exactly where they're walking to and from school,
Speaker 1: and then when they take them, this is where it
Speaker 1: gets really super messed up. If you take one of
Speaker 1: these foster kids. I'll back up. So the foster care people,
Speaker 1: they check in on kids that are being fostered, right,
Speaker 1: but their caseloads are huge as well. So even they'll
Speaker 1: tell you we're really overrun. We can't get to everybody,
Speaker 1: and like we try, but sometimes it's like once every
Speaker 1: six months, once every year. So let's say that you're
Speaker 1: one of these families that is just using that income
Speaker 1: for the foster care kids to support your family, and
Speaker 1: you don't want to lose that check. Now, if the
Speaker 1: kid disappears bam, and you go and you tell someone,
Speaker 1: then your monthly check's not gonna come. So a lot
Speaker 1: of these kids that we're getting are from families like that,
Speaker 1: where it's like if they disappeared, they're not gonna say
Speaker 1: anything to the government. You're kidding me. They're gonna wait
Speaker 1: to the last possible second to say, oh, well, I
Speaker 1: don't know they ran away or something. So I mean,
Speaker 1: if you look up at the statistics of the amount
Speaker 1: of like runaway missing children that there are in this country,
Speaker 1: it's gonna blow your mind. I mean children we never
Speaker 1: find again, not kids that run away in then they
Speaker 1: come back. We're talking kids that never show up again.
Speaker 1: It's literally gonna blow your mind. So the fact that
Speaker 1: the country is like, wow, how does anybody not notice?
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know. How did that mean? How
Speaker 1: does that many thousands, hundreds of thousands of children go
Speaker 1: missing every year and nobody knows? And then people are like, well,
Speaker 1: how do people not hear these things happening? Have you
Speaker 1: ever been to the Utah nightahole Welkerness, You can go
Speaker 1: ten minutes off of the side of any road and
Speaker 1: nobody will hear you ever again. So this is like
Speaker 1: a really good window that people have here in this
Speaker 1: particular state to get away with super deviant activity. Another
Speaker 1: way that they like to find these children and procure
Speaker 1: children is by going to the illegal immigrant communities. Those
Speaker 1: are super easy to find. Anybody who wants to hire
Speaker 1: somebody from home depot in the morning can figure out
Speaker 1: how to find them. So what they do is they
Speaker 1: follow those kids and they take those kids also. And
Speaker 1: this is why they take those kids. If you're an
Speaker 1: illegal immigrant and your children get taken or your child
Speaker 1: and you go to the police office and you say
Speaker 1: my kid is missing, they say give me your ID now.
Speaker 1: If they find out that you're illegal, they will deport you.
Speaker 1: So you have an option basically as a parent who's
Speaker 1: lost a child inside this country, either you don't say
Speaker 1: anything and you look by yourself for a kid that's missing,
Speaker 1: or you get deported to an entirely different country than
Speaker 1: the one that your kid is now missing in. So
Speaker 1: obviously most parents opt to not say anything into search
Speaker 1: by themselves. So that's basically the two biggest group ways
Speaker 1: that they find these these children essentially that they take
Speaker 1: and sometimes they'll kill them that night. Sometimes they will
Speaker 1: keep them for months at a time, and they have
Speaker 1: like a lot some of the members will have these
Speaker 1: these lava tubes. So in Idaho they have lava tubes
Speaker 1: all over the place. And so like on private land,
Speaker 1: it's not uncommon to find something of as like a
Speaker 1: sinkhole that's on the property. And so if it's a
Speaker 1: big enough sinkhole, then what they'll do is they'll keep
Speaker 1: these kids in there in animal cages, so just like
Speaker 1: the when you'd buy like a classic German shepherd or something,
Speaker 1: and they'll keep them in there for months, leading them
Speaker 1: up to these ritual ceremonies. So yeah, we were used
Speaker 1: for that, which is like Hellinis.
Speaker 4: You talked about you are keeper doing multiple things to you.
Speaker 4: He raped you, he kept you in the bathtub. What
Speaker 4: else did he do to you?
Speaker 1: His favorite things to do is to chase me through
Speaker 1: the woods. He was obsessed with survival stuff, and so
Speaker 1: he played these tracking games. He called them in retrospect,
Speaker 1: it's like the creepiest thing in the world to me.
Speaker 1: But when I was going through it, I was like, Oh,
Speaker 1: he's just doing this for my own good. He was
Speaker 1: teaching me how to escape demons by being completely untrackable.
Speaker 1: So so he would like, say he'd be driving and
Speaker 1: he'd just start counting. It was like he would switch
Speaker 1: into these different personalities sometimes, so he'd be driving and
Speaker 1: suddenly he'd be like twenty nineteen eighteen, he'd like pull
Speaker 1: over the side of the road. And that was my
Speaker 1: key that I was supposed to get out of the
Speaker 1: car and then run basically, and I was supposed to
Speaker 1: evade him. And so it was like for a timed
Speaker 1: period of like two or three hours, I would be
Speaker 1: trying to run away from him while he tracked me,
Speaker 1: and if he caught me, I would get punished. Like
Speaker 1: my rib cage is covered in these scars because he
Speaker 1: would count coup That was what he believed was some
Speaker 1: like what enemies in the I think as Native American
Speaker 1: cultures used to do, is they would count coup on
Speaker 1: somebody that they would triumph over. So I have slits
Speaker 1: in my ribcage from each time that he won. Essentially
Speaker 1: those tracking games and rape was also a part of that,
Speaker 1: but they didn't mind that as much as being like,
Speaker 1: you know, having a knife drawn across in my rib cage.
Speaker 1: And if I got away, then I would get rewarded
Speaker 1: either with a tutsie roll or with a lesson, because
Speaker 1: he liked to teach me things. So like if I
Speaker 1: got away from him and it was two hours had
Speaker 1: gone by and he hadn't found me, he would do
Speaker 1: a whistle and I would come back, and then he'd
Speaker 1: be like super congratulatory, and then he would teach me
Speaker 1: something about quantum physics, or teach me something about what
Speaker 1: herbs I could eat outdoors if I was ever in
Speaker 1: a survival situation, or he'd teached me an extra thing
Speaker 1: about how to cover my tracks so nobody knew where
Speaker 1: I was. So it's like back then, I got really
Speaker 1: proud of myself when I would get away from him
Speaker 1: instead of realizing that I was being chased through the
Speaker 1: woods by somebody who killed children, which is what the
Speaker 1: sort of reality is. Retrospects. Yeah, I don't even know
Speaker 1: what to do but laugh because it's like so messed up.
Speaker 4: How many children did you watch him kill?
Speaker 1: I can remember, well him specifically, not the group five.
Speaker 4: See you you physically watched him kill five? How many
Speaker 4: did the group did you witness?
Speaker 1: Probably seven over the course of my life, I think, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I haven't counted.
Speaker 4: Them exactly, but there were a significant amount. Yeah, And
Speaker 4: this wasn't just a we're going to shoot you and
Speaker 4: get it over.
Speaker 1: What there was pain.
Speaker 4: I mean, if you want to go into detail of
Speaker 4: how this happened, you're want to welcome to but talk
Speaker 4: to me a little bit about what you witnessed.
Speaker 1: Well. With him, it was always it was always the
Speaker 1: same scenario when he killed boys. I didn't watch him
Speaker 1: kill girls. I don't think, Yeah, I don't remember. So
Speaker 1: when I watched him killed boys, what it was is
Speaker 1: that he would get them off the side of the
Speaker 1: road and then he would bring them to a house
Speaker 1: or another location, and then he would have the boys
Speaker 1: kiss me. Almost like he was getting off, so he'd
Speaker 1: be jacking off all he was watching the little boy
Speaker 1: do whatever he was doing with me, and then it
Speaker 1: was like something would snap and he would go into
Speaker 1: this completely other mode of like jealousy, rage, and so
Speaker 1: as if he was mad that the boys were touching
Speaker 1: even though he was the one that told them to,
Speaker 1: he would grab them and like brutally beat them to death,
Speaker 1: or in one occasion, he hacked them to death with
Speaker 1: a small axe. That was him on his own. With
Speaker 1: the ritual group, they're not like that. It's not like
Speaker 1: a Hodgepodge emotionally induced type of the thing. It's more
Speaker 1: like what's creepy about the group is it's more like
Speaker 1: there's zero emotion involved in it, where their number one
Speaker 1: way is to do it on ritual bonfire. So they
Speaker 1: would have in like this black mass. I'll tell you
Speaker 1: one of them, because this is pretty much what it
Speaker 1: was like most of the time. So we were in
Speaker 1: Idaho wilderness right outside of this. I guess if you
Speaker 1: go from Preston, Idaho and you drive up this side canyon,
Speaker 1: you're in this huge aspen grove. And so we were
Speaker 1: up there probably five minutes walk from one of the
Speaker 1: main roads that was winding through that particular area, and
Speaker 1: we were all brought to this place where people were
Speaker 1: wearing these gold masks with like purple robes, and then
Speaker 1: some people were wearing black masks or blaming black robes
Speaker 1: with white masks. So they're all standing in this grove
Speaker 1: a lot more than just the coven that I had
Speaker 1: been introduced to. It was probably three or four covens,
Speaker 1: so I would say in total, probably forty something people
Speaker 1: were at this particular gathering. So we're standing there. They're
Speaker 1: doing like a chanting, so they're around the circle and
Speaker 1: they're reading I guess from Old Tide, no idea what
Speaker 1: language it was. Most of them didn't explain these types
Speaker 1: of things to me when I was a kid. I
Speaker 1: just was watching it. So I'm standing there and through
Speaker 1: the woods come these two men and they had like
Speaker 1: a pole kind of like you'd use for a tea peopole,
Speaker 1: and there was a little girl I'm guessing again she's
Speaker 1: probably five. She was super tiny. She was Mexican and oriented.
Speaker 1: I can tell because she had the dark skin and everything.
Speaker 1: So they had taken her and she was tied up,
Speaker 1: so they had put this tea peopole thing there, and
Speaker 1: then they tied her hands and her legs up to it,
Speaker 1: so it was like her face was facing down right
Speaker 1: and these two men were carrying her in towards this
Speaker 1: enormous fire that they had made. And to make a
Speaker 1: fire hot enough to burn a human body is like
Speaker 1: you have to make it really, really hot, So they
Speaker 1: had to be burning it probably since the morning, way
Speaker 1: before I ever got there. But they ended up doing
Speaker 1: a ritual with her, and then they just picked her
Speaker 1: up and put her right down over the top of
Speaker 1: the fire. It is one of the most perfect things
Speaker 1: you'll ever watch, not because it's like they actually die
Speaker 1: pretty quickly that way, because the second that they get
Speaker 1: over that immense amount of heat, they take their first
Speaker 1: in breath and they're gone, and it basically sees your
Speaker 1: lungs to the point in a return. But the most
Speaker 1: horrid for the thing is just watching and like I
Speaker 1: remember it is when they put her in her hair
Speaker 1: was dissolved instantaneously. It's like when you put hair in fire,
Speaker 1: it just disappears. So not only that, what most people
Speaker 1: have never thought about and don't see is that the skin,
Speaker 1: just like liquefies and it starts to fall off of
Speaker 1: the body in sheets, so that I was watching it
Speaker 1: fall into the fire like that, and then pretty soon
Speaker 1: we were left with basically only bones and like sinews
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. So I don't know what they
Speaker 1: do with the bones that they do in those rituals,
Speaker 1: because usually we leave before anything's cleaned up. It takes
Speaker 1: quite a while for a body to completely burn, So
Speaker 1: that was a pretty typical way of killing them. And
Speaker 1: this you have to know too, for the different holidays.
Speaker 1: It requires killing people in different ways in different ages.
Speaker 1: So some of the rituals require aborted fetuses, some of
Speaker 1: them require tiny babies, others require like a woman who's
Speaker 1: in the prime of her reproductive cycle, things like that.
Speaker 1: And if they take a woman who's in the prime
Speaker 1: of her reproductive cycle, the way that you kill them
Speaker 1: is by slicing them across the road.
Speaker 4: How how did you not fall victim to being a sacrifice?
Speaker 1: I would love to I would love to tell you
Speaker 1: that I know exactly why I don't like it. And
Speaker 1: looking back from an adult standpoint, it's like I can
Speaker 1: see a few times where it got really close, really
Speaker 1: really close, and I think what it was if I'm
Speaker 1: an adventurer. I guess I think it was the because
Speaker 1: of what I was capable of doing with these abilities,
Speaker 1: that they really did believe in that, why would you
Speaker 1: get rid of your access to the underworld? Why would
Speaker 1: you get rid of I mean, they used to drink
Speaker 1: my blood rituals on purpose, thinking that if they did that,
Speaker 1: they'd have protection or be able to see into the future,
Speaker 1: things like that. So it doesn't it wouldn't make sense,
Speaker 1: I guess, to sacrifice that. And also if you have
Speaker 1: somebody with these insane occult abilities, basically, I guess there
Speaker 1: was some part of them that hoped to groom me
Speaker 1: for a matriarchal position, which is a lot of the
Speaker 1: Satanic groups are highly matriarchal, not patriarchal. This is another
Speaker 1: thing which might surprise people to know. So like usually
Speaker 1: instead of there being a primary male priest that's like
Speaker 1: presiding over all, these women in the patriarchy is what
Speaker 1: keeps everyone down a lot of times, it's a super
Speaker 1: deviant matriarchal character, like the Crone type of character, who
Speaker 1: is the one who's telling people what to do and
Speaker 1: is orchestrating these huge events and things like that. So
Speaker 1: I could assume they are probably grooming me for that
Speaker 1: particular position, because when I turned thirteen, the tables flipped,
Speaker 1: even though I was still getting like tortured by them,
Speaker 1: programmed by them everything, because you have to reinstate programs
Speaker 1: like some of them will stick longer, other ones. You
Speaker 1: have to reprogram over and over again to make sure
Speaker 1: that those neuropathways stay completely freshen the brain. So besides that, though,
Speaker 1: the tables were turned, and I was now flipped into
Speaker 1: a position of working with the younger children's programming them,
Speaker 1: which worked for my therapy because I know how they
Speaker 1: do it. So if I know how they do it,
Speaker 1: I now know how to deprogram myself. And it's beneficial
Speaker 1: also because I can teach you know, these people who
Speaker 1: are working in the profession of ritual trauma psychologists and things,
Speaker 1: I can teach them how to be programmed now. But
Speaker 1: that was originally why I didn't want to talk to
Speaker 1: people about what was going on with me. I had
Speaker 1: never planned on telling anybody. By the way, this is
Speaker 1: like sometimes surprising to me that I know super public
Speaker 1: about this, because none of us are going to talk.
Speaker 1: You know, when we get away, that's where we start so.
Speaker 2: Let's just say that she's telling the truth. Okay, let's
Speaker 2: just say that this is one hundred percent, genuine, genuine
Speaker 2: s R A survivor. Sometimes I wonder how these people
Speaker 2: are able to say the things that they do, to
Speaker 2: come out in public with this stuff, And it makes
Speaker 2: me wonder if it's not just part of the plan,
Speaker 2: part of the plan to desensitize people on what really
Speaker 2: is going on with this stuff, you know? And I
Speaker 2: sometimes wonder, like, am I a part of the problem
Speaker 2: because I share this stuff with people? And I am
Speaker 2: part of desensitizing people. Like sometimes I'm watching these videos
Speaker 2: and they're like talking about their life as a child,
Speaker 2: and you know, just random stuff, and I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 2: come on, did you get raped or not? Did you
Speaker 2: see them meet the babies? What happened to your be hole?
Speaker 2: Let's get into it, Like do I got to pry
Speaker 2: it out of you about your rape story? We're just
Speaker 2: gonna sit here and talk about popsicles for the Like,
Speaker 2: I just I'm becoming desensitized to a degree, and also
Speaker 2: skeptical of a lot of these people's testimonies, like are
Speaker 2: these crazy people? Are they do they just want us
Speaker 2: to think that these are crazy people, so we discount
Speaker 2: how horrific their story is. But it does, you know,
Speaker 2: it's something that I've thought of before. But let's continue.
Speaker 1: I had planned on not telling anybody, especially because I
Speaker 1: was convinced I was going to be put in jail.
Speaker 1: Because when you realize, like, oh, these things are like
Speaker 1: punishable crimes. Oh, you know, you realize I've programmed children,
Speaker 1: I participated in sacrifices. And even though it's like it's
Speaker 1: because you've been traumatized and you have no option. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's too difficult to talk to somebody who's been in
Speaker 1: a space of freedom. You can't really explain to them
Speaker 1: what it's like to mentally be in the situation where
Speaker 1: you would do anything you were told to do because
Speaker 1: you don't have another option, But you get there mentally.
Speaker 1: So even though I had no other option than to
Speaker 1: do these things with these groups, it's like the massive
Speaker 1: amount of guilt that I have a hard time get over.
Speaker 1: And it's the reason I didn't want to talk. I
Speaker 1: don't want to end up in a Jill soul because
Speaker 1: I did something when I was seventeen with a cold
Speaker 1: group that took me in when I was six. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you.
Speaker 4: You programmed some of the children that were brought into
Speaker 4: the cold. Did a child ever die at your hands? No?
Speaker 1: No, but I didn't. What really kills me is that
Speaker 1: I didn't do anything to stop them. It's like when
Speaker 1: the older I've gotten, it's like the more you get
Speaker 1: out of this haze that you get in with these groups,
Speaker 1: the more that I'm sort of like wishing that they
Speaker 1: would have killed me just because I was protesting. It's
Speaker 1: like it would almost be morally better to die because
Speaker 1: you were saying no, then watch and not be able
Speaker 1: to do anything like I felt like I was doing
Speaker 1: for so long.
Speaker 4: So there was a point where you started protesting while
Speaker 4: you were.
Speaker 1: Oh no, I never protested. That was my That's my issue.
Speaker 4: That's like my number one guilt that you didn't protest.
Speaker 1: I didn't think it was an option.
Speaker 4: And you were nineteen when you got out yep. And
Speaker 4: how did you get out? And what was the what
Speaker 4: was it that clicked for you? You where what was
Speaker 4: that moment when it was like, oh crap, I have
Speaker 4: to get out.
Speaker 1: This is really funny because this is like people love
Speaker 1: me to they want to hear a story where I'm
Speaker 1: basically so excited to be gone finally, and that is
Speaker 1: so then not the way that it went. The way
Speaker 1: that it went is that I was wanting to leave
Speaker 1: to do other things. I was like because I had
Speaker 1: started modeling. He used to prostitute me when I was younger.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of things I haven't talked about that
Speaker 1: he's done to.
Speaker 2: Me that I just like.
Speaker 1: But basically, one of the things he used to do
Speaker 1: is make money by prostituting me. How when I was younger.
Speaker 1: So he'd take polaroid photographs of me covered in blood,
Speaker 1: and then he would go and like to Wendover was
Speaker 1: the most typical place we went, or sometimes motels just
Speaker 1: in Logan, Utah, are in Preston, Idaho. And what he
Speaker 1: would do is he would sit in the back of
Speaker 1: his truck. And I don't know how the hell he
Speaker 1: orchestrated this because I didn't watch him call these people,
Speaker 1: but men would approach the truck. He'd show them these
Speaker 1: polaroid photographs and they decide what they would want me
Speaker 1: to do with them, and they'd pay him for it.
Speaker 1: So like one of the most common things to do.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember the but back in
Speaker 1: the day with these gas stations. What they used to
Speaker 1: have with gas stations is an outdoor bathroom, not an
Speaker 1: indoor bathroom, right, So what they do is pulled to
Speaker 1: the side and I would go into the outdoor bathroom
Speaker 1: and then the guy would come in and then he'd
Speaker 1: do whatever the hell he wanted to rape or have me,
Speaker 1: you know, perform fillatio stuff like that, and then they
Speaker 1: would go back and then pay him for it. So
Speaker 1: he would take me and I'd probably see like the
Speaker 1: most I ever saw in the night was eight Usually
Speaker 1: it was like two or three. And that was how
Speaker 1: he's making money. But when I turned twelve, it's like
Speaker 1: the guys who were into that pedophile stuff, they don't
Speaker 1: really want to have sex with you anymore because you're older.
Speaker 1: So at first this guy, my keeper was super pissed
Speaker 1: about it. He's losing money, Like, I can't deal with
Speaker 1: the fact that you're getting older. This is not okay
Speaker 1: because you're losing clientele. In fact, you're gonna have to
Speaker 1: pay me for the money that I'm losing because you're
Speaker 1: getting tits. So I didn't know how to do that,
Speaker 1: and he got it in his mind that basically, what
Speaker 1: if she could model, you know, that'd be a good
Speaker 1: idea because she's pretty enough. Why don't we just see
Speaker 1: like what happens there. So I started I sort of
Speaker 1: got into it. Like the funny part is, it's not
Speaker 1: like he threw me into the modeling thing. Gave me
Speaker 1: that suggestion, and I was like, oh bummer. I was
Speaker 1: like amazed by this other world out there because I
Speaker 1: was growing up in this rural town as a like
Speaker 1: bumpkin kid. Basically even though I had educated children all right, sorry,
Speaker 1: educated parents. I had educated parents. So even though I
Speaker 1: had that reality, I sort of saw this glamor, you know,
Speaker 1: in the world of fashion and these women who were like,
Speaker 1: instead of being used and destroyed, basically, they were like glorified,
Speaker 1: and I loved it the god. So I became totally
Speaker 1: obsessed with modeling, got into it. Most of the money
Speaker 1: that I was making out of modeling, I was giving
Speaker 1: right back to my keeper because that was the rule there.
Speaker 1: And when I was nineteen or so, I had graduated
Speaker 1: from high school, I was sixteen. I was incapable of
Speaker 1: doing anything, which is typical of children who are in
Speaker 1: cults like this when we're programmed with the no self
Speaker 1: care programs. It's like the time that your parents sort
Speaker 1: of expect you to fly, but no, I was in
Speaker 1: and out of hospitals, in psychology offices every other ten seconds,
Speaker 1: and they were trying to figure out what the hell
Speaker 1: was going on with me. They mentioned abuse more than
Speaker 1: a hundred times, but like looking at my parents and
Speaker 1: figuring it's not them, They're like, well, it can't be abused,
Speaker 1: so what the hell are we looking at? And I
Speaker 1: slipped through the cracks like a lot of children who
Speaker 1: are part of these cults do. Even though there are
Speaker 1: people who suspect. It's like it never occurs to them
Speaker 1: my parents that it's a family friend, never occurs to
Speaker 1: the people that it can be like a whole cult
Speaker 1: group that's super good at doing what they do. So
Speaker 1: it just went unchecked and I was like not functioning.
Speaker 1: But I still had these sort of dreams of being
Speaker 1: am a model. So I had planned to get away
Speaker 1: from him for just a little bit to go do
Speaker 1: some modeling. I was not planning on running away. I'll
Speaker 1: just let go there right now and tell you. I
Speaker 1: didn't think i'd ever be one. So it was just
Speaker 1: like I need to go on a trip, which was
Speaker 1: not allowed. The last time I'd gone on a trip,
Speaker 1: he actually killed my dog, so I planned on going
Speaker 1: on this trip. He found out caught wind from my
Speaker 1: mother and he had planned the scenario because he was
Speaker 1: super furious. So I get back from a trip and
Speaker 1: he injected me as ketamine. This is the other story.
Speaker 1: Because he was a veterinarian, he had access to ketemine, dermitory,
Speaker 1: and zyolisine, so all three of those drugs were used
Speaker 1: on me like a lot throughout my childhood. At that point,
Speaker 1: I was actually hooked on a ketamine that you could
Speaker 1: drop on the pulse points of your skin that he
Speaker 1: had given me to calm down because I was having
Speaker 1: what they call bleedover symptoms. When you put somebody through
Speaker 1: so much trauma, then the programming that they instant to
Speaker 1: be able to shift into emotional states. So this is
Speaker 1: what I mean. If you're a kid basically who's been
Speaker 1: in these groups, they need you to be able to
Speaker 1: function so that nobody notices. So what they do is
Speaker 1: they create a split program so that if they teach
Speaker 1: you to snap your fingers and the minute you do
Speaker 1: that you feel good. You don't feel anything, So anytime
Speaker 1: you start feeling emotional anxiety or something like that. You
Speaker 1: snap your fingers, so you can actually train a child
Speaker 1: to in one one hand, they're crying the next minute
Speaker 1: to do that. They're like, what's going on? It's that simple.
Speaker 1: So they train you with this split programming so that
Speaker 1: they can make sure that you can function at school
Speaker 1: and so that you're doing this with the group, and
Speaker 1: it's basically you're living a double life. So I specifically
Speaker 1: program children for this. So I've watched them do this
Speaker 1: and it was done on me as well. So bleed
Speaker 1: over symptoms is what happens when this is no longer working,
Speaker 1: when you've got so much subconscious trauma, essentially that most
Speaker 1: of the time the person spends in a state of
Speaker 1: serious anxiety. So I was starting to have seizures with
Speaker 1: they think is it's either trauma seizures or it's caesars
Speaker 1: that are induced by the long term use of ketamine
Speaker 1: things like that. So that's another bleed over sentiment sort
Speaker 1: of like they're no longer able to contain completely the
Speaker 1: trauma that's happening within the system. So the extreme anxiety
Speaker 1: I was going through, he would give me droplets of
Speaker 1: ketemine to put on my skin instead, and I was
Speaker 1: carrying that around with me, So I think that that
Speaker 1: was the reason. If I'm gonna go and put a
Speaker 1: theory in, I think that's the reason that he gave
Speaker 1: me the wrong dose, which is the first time he's
Speaker 1: ever messed up like that in my life. So he
Speaker 1: was planning an elaborate programming scenario where he was supposed
Speaker 1: to inject me with a full dose of ketamine, which
Speaker 1: would put me unconscious and then I would wake up
Speaker 1: having no memory. It didn't work that way. I think
Speaker 1: it's because of the fact that he had given me
Speaker 1: that dropper to continually take kenymine. My tolerance was higher,
Speaker 1: so he missed dose. He gave me a missed dose,
Speaker 1: and I didn't lose consciousness. And when he put me
Speaker 1: in the back of this van that I was in,
Speaker 1: I was conscious the entire time I was there. I
Speaker 1: was groggy. I couldn't move my body, which is pretty typical.
Speaker 1: It's one reason they love using that. The cult groups
Speaker 1: love ketamine because ketamine you can still feel everything until
Speaker 1: you go completely conscious. You can still feel everything, but
Speaker 1: you can't move. So I couldn't move my body, but
Speaker 1: I was awake, watching at twilight, watching all of the
Speaker 1: you know, like the trees when you drive, you've got
Speaker 1: like that sort of sunshine, dappled sunlight that's coming through.
Speaker 1: So then he brought me to this group of really
Speaker 1: tall pine trees and walked me off of the road.
Speaker 1: Probably ten twenty minutes could have been into the woods
Speaker 1: and there was a body there. Now, one of the
Speaker 1: members of the Satanic group is this guy who owns
Speaker 1: a mortician place, so's you think he's a morticianer. So
Speaker 1: it's a good way for people who are trying to
Speaker 1: really traumatize children to procure instruments of torment essentially by
Speaker 1: using these bodies. So we were brought into morticians' offices
Speaker 1: as well as him doing what he did this day,
Speaker 1: which was to procure that body and bring it into
Speaker 1: the woods. So, at nineteen years old, I walk into
Speaker 1: the woods. Here's this body that he has put there.
Speaker 1: Now he comes up behind me, which was quite typical
Speaker 1: for him, and smacked me in the back of the
Speaker 1: head and threw me to the ground and said, look
Speaker 1: what you do when I am not watching you every second.
Speaker 1: This is the kind of trouble you put us all in.
Speaker 1: He was trying to convince me that I had killed
Speaker 1: this person, and I was supposed to then be like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I'm so sorry. I'm so glad that
Speaker 1: you're like helping me with this, and I know the
Speaker 1: cops because that's the whole thing. The cops are after
Speaker 1: you now, so you have to stay with me. So
Speaker 1: I'm like feeling mentally messed up because I've been around
Speaker 1: enough dead bodies in my childhood to know exactly what
Speaker 1: was going on there, and I wasn't out of it
Speaker 1: because he didn't toast me high enough. So I'm sitting
Speaker 1: next to this body which was missing its entire bottom
Speaker 1: jaw because it was a suicide victim. That's like pretty typical.
Speaker 1: If they angled the gun wrong when they put it
Speaker 1: in their mouth, they blow their jaw off instead of
Speaker 1: their head. So I'm and this man is probably thirty something.
Speaker 1: Not only that he smelled like formaldehyde, not only that
Speaker 1: he had a full bruise along the bottom side of
Speaker 1: his body. Not only that you touch his skin and
Speaker 1: it doesn't bounce back. That tells me having been around
Speaker 1: bodies for that long as a child. But this is
Speaker 1: an older body, So I'm like, why is he telling
Speaker 1: me that I did something I didn't do. I remember
Speaker 1: everything I've done today, I know exactly. Like he smells
Speaker 1: like formaldehyde, like he's been in a mortician's office. He's
Speaker 1: trying to convince me that I did something I didn't do.
Speaker 1: I have no context for this. So basically, that day
Speaker 1: he had me like carving ritual symbols into the body.
Speaker 1: And because the body was in rigamortis, his penis was
Speaker 1: completely erect. So he also had me perform like sex
Speaker 1: this body, which is one of the worst memories, of course,
Speaker 1: of my life, because my face was three inches away
Speaker 1: from this huge wound in the bottom half of this
Speaker 1: guy's face. And so I'm having sex with this corpse and.
Speaker 2: Ow hell now, hell to the fuck now? Oh god,
Speaker 2: I'm gagging. I'm gagging. I'm gagging. That sounds like did
Speaker 2: you guys ever watch the Haunting in Connecticut where that
Speaker 2: guy he had the mortician or whatever, he had the
Speaker 2: funeral home and he was carving symbols and doing all
Speaker 2: kind of occult rituals and shit with them bodies and stuff.
Speaker 2: If they would have included a scene like that, I
Speaker 2: think they would have fucking thrown the movie out. But
Speaker 2: This really really reminds me of that movie. You guys
Speaker 2: should watch it, but hale to the now. You know what,
Speaker 2: his dead corpse ass fucking nasty penis probably smelled like,
Speaker 2: and his dead carved up beehole and she had a
Speaker 2: climb one. Oh absolutely not, absolutely not. But that is
Speaker 2: going to conclude part one of the Teal Swan story.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna stop my share real quid. Okay, folks, So
Speaker 2: that is gonna do us for part one of the
Speaker 2: Teal Swan story. You could probably go to YouTube, type
Speaker 2: this bitch's name in and watch the rest of this
Speaker 2: interview all on your own, but then you would be
Speaker 2: lacking the very entertaining side commentary and conversation with yours truly,
Speaker 2: and we're besties. I don't know why you'd want to
Speaker 2: watch it without me. We'd be doing stuff together. We're
Speaker 2: family over her. But yeah, so that's gonna do it
Speaker 2: for part one. I got some shout outs and some
Speaker 2: stuff I'm going to mention for PARTI who are I
Speaker 2: was gonna put him in this, but I forgot my bee.
Speaker 2: I will include the shout outs on the part too,
Speaker 2: but until then, I love you, thank you for watching,
Speaker 2: and I will catch you on the next one.
Speaker 1: Girl, figure, you were the trigger.
Speaker 6: You brought me to an obstructive you when you know
Speaker 6: the picture speaker who went my.
Speaker 2: Katten you from not begin.
Speaker 6: You doin everything you do it every time you want
Speaker 6: my enemy, you want no friend of my motherfucker. You're
Speaker 6: motherfucking right, your mother fucking right on, your motherfucking right
Speaker 6: on trigger.
Speaker 1: You're all fucking right up. I wanna fuck you right up.
Speaker 6: I just turned the lights now, and you know when
Speaker 6: the song go down, when I would all go down,
Speaker 6: been a minute of it, know, wow, yeah, nobody it
Speaker 6: is it.
Speaker 2: You're with it?
Speaker 5: You know you it's not do with it better?
Speaker 6: I know?
Speaker 1: Mean you what help you with it? I'm out to
Speaker 1: burn this beach down.
Speaker 5: You gotta need to lie down because I'm not trying
Speaker 5: a whole out now.
Speaker 6: But right now I don't know what okay for Paul
Speaker 6: Love might fuck around and go crazy because my fucking.
Speaker 2: Around have to pay me in blood. This ain't the
Speaker 2: way that you want it. Might catch your case in
Speaker 2: this bitch. Don't let me catch your face to face
Speaker 2: in this bitch.
Speaker 5: Try in my heart is not do this respect after
Speaker 5: what you did?
Speaker 6: Man, what you've expected, your motherfucking your mouthfucking right, your
Speaker 6: motherfucking right on bitter, your motherfucking right on drigger.
Speaker 5: Your motherfucking right up shouting another time, shut a lot
Speaker 5: of time, go by, shot at other time. Oh turn
Speaker 5: a at the time.
Speaker 3: The memories, oh mentomy, Oh history, Oh that's history. Outcome down, eventually,
Speaker 3: fall back, eventually, please coming back, eventually fall back again
Speaker 3: to me.
Speaker 6: He