Speaker 1: Good Saturday morning to the hobby verse. Is time for
another episode of Hobby Hotline as always live at eleven
am Eastern eight am Pacific. I haven't been on. It's
been at least three weeks, maybe longer, but that's probably
a good thing, the less of my ugly mug. But
I'm joined by two other gentlemen this morning that you
know I make them look better just by default. But
to my right on the screen, Chris Harris Morning, Chris morning.
Speaker 2: I think it's been two months since I've been on
the show, So take care of the guy that does
the scheduling and put it on him.
Speaker 1: I don't know who. I don't know who that is.
Speaker 2: But we're in central New York somewhere.
Speaker 1: I have to have a talk with that guy and
see what we can do. And below us only on
the screen as I always say, Uh, Orlando a collector's dream,
morning sir.
Speaker 3: Good morning John and Chris. Yeah yeah, I agree with Chris.
Did about a month as I've been on also, so
uh we got we gotta talk to the scheduler.
Speaker 1: Yeah again, I'm gonna yell at him and they'll probably
yell back at me if I know him. Uh. Well,
so let's get some other good mornings, uh from those
out there in the chat room. Mad City Brew. Good morning,
uh from our own channel hair for collectors. Hope, hope
everyone's enjoying the Major League Baseball in the NFL Draft.
I am. I can only speak for myself. Five foul
ball or five foul ball, good morning as well a
fan in the sports what's up, y'all? Thundering up in
Oklahoma City? Baby? Here in Central New York, it is
a rainy, overcast day and that's gonna be most of
the weather for the whole day. So uh, not a
great day, but in Central New York were used, We're
used to it. Peter B. Forty eight seventy one. Good
morning from southern New England. Is it too early to drink?
Speaker 3: No? No?
Speaker 1: I agree with Chris. It depends where you are. Uh
and uh, you know, thank you for that confluence sports cards.
The Drew Arler, the Drew Aller draft pick was a
waste by the Steelers. I agree that was ugly and
if they if they liked him that much, We're gonna
talk a little bit of draft guys. But if that,
if the Steelers liked him that much, they could have
waited a few rounds and probably still got him, So
that that's even even more disappointing that they wasted earlier
pick to make that pick. But I can I love it. Yeah, well, yeah,
story about what happened with Lemon? Yeah yeah, mighty did
us either either skunked us there, you might have did
us a favor depending on what side of Lemon, Uh
you fall out or uh? He says good morning to
Orlando baseball card curmudgeon, what up fellas? Hello? Good morning uh?
And vict our very own Vic there says good morning,
uh Man and chat room. So all right, guys, let's
get right into it. I know this show itself has
kind of covered it already, but we haven't weighed in
on it yet. And that's the now that football falls
in the license category of cap cops and fanatics. You
know the box you know that's taking place. The boxes
are out. The price is to me, and I'm a
football card collector, so I buy football a new invintage
as well, fifteen dollars a box, and that's crazy to me.
I get it. They got to pay for their licenseing
that's expensive. The other thing I noticed, Chris and Orlando
chat Room is some of the autos in it of
the players are bringing more money than like their rookie
autos or there rpas from like Panini product. So to me,
it's crazy. Obviously some of the pricing has come down
since its release, but it's still expensive. It's not it's
not crashed. I don't know who wants to jump in here,
but I think it's I think it's it's it's crazy.
Speaker 2: It is, but you know, somebody's paying fifteen hundred bucks
for a hobby box. It ain't us collector. I think
we all know who the audience for this product really is.
Who's paying that?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean obviously the bi and ends in a raker,
the breakers that have made those prices possible for the
most part. I mean when you're getting up there, you know,
in some cases almost two thousand dollars for a hobby box.
It's just out of control and it's very difficult for
you know, you're made to go to the hobby store
and even get it. And even when you deal with
some of the hobby stores, they're not getting the allocation
to be getting I mean I heard Rob Barris got
a total free case case and a case of jumbos
and that's it in a case of jumbles, and he's
got the biggest store, I think in the country. So
it's really ridiculous that it's going mostly to the Breakers.
And then you've got the Breaker's Delight product, which is
I think over three thousand dollars for that for the box,
I think it brings something like twelve cards. I mean
it comes out to two hundred and fifty dollars per card.
I understand that, you know, that's not going to have
a lot of bass or any base cards in there.
They're all going to kind of be hits, I guess,
but still talking about two hundred and fifty dollars per
card for those Breakers Delight and I don't know it.
To me, it's just out of control. I don't know
how much this can continue. And it's really taking us
football card collectors kind of out of the market. And wait,
the prices drop so we can buy some singles here
and there.
Speaker 1: I don't know Rob super well, Orlando, and that seems
crazy to me that he's only getting three boxes and
I hate I'm getting over there, Oh three cases.
Speaker 2: Three cases the Hobby and one of jumbos.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, what is there? Ten boxes? A case of
thirty boxes. Again, I'm guessing no, I think it's.
Speaker 2: Well in a case for hobby and so pep.
Speaker 1: Thirty six boxes. Yeah, it's it's not a lot. And
I'm gonna assume he's not gonna lie. I would assume
he's not gonna lie about that, or I would hope, uh,
he wouldn't lie about that. But there's no shortage of it.
Maybe he's not getting as much as he would like,
but the overall there's gonna be no shortage of it
across the board. Like you say, breakers, you know, breaking
is a double edged sword, guys, I wrote, I've wrote
articles about it. Right. It saved the wax industry at
a time when the wax industry or the wax niche
part of the hobby was sort of not where we
know it to be today. So nothing doesn't sell out
almost anymore. I mean, bowling cards, corn holed cards, they
sell anything, and breakers will break literally anything. But where
it's hurt the hobby is it's driven up the prices
for the average collector that wants to just buy a
box on their own and open it at home, maybe
with a son or daughter or whoever, or themselves. Right,
that's where that's who's sort of taking it on the chin.
You know, how do you fix that? Right? I mean,
if that's the problem, how do you fix that? I
saw someone else said, man City, right, boxes shouldn't be
more than one hundred and seventy five dollars, doesn't matter
what one year wonders in that box. Now, obviously, products
cost different amounts to make. You know, we got products
like Transcendent and Definitive that are high end. You know,
you never would see them at that price level. Well,
here we're talking about Yes, it's chrome, it's not flagship
regular tops, but fifteen hundred dollars is fifteen hundred dollars
and that really prices a lot of people out of
obtaining the box, other than maybe lucking out and going
to Walmart and buying a blaster. But again, that's retail,
not hobby. How do we fix that? Orlando or Chris
or is it too late?
Speaker 3: Go ahead?
Speaker 2: Literally? Good?
Speaker 1: Good?
Speaker 3: Well, I mean I think it's too late to fix
it right now with everything going on with all the
breakers and stuff. You know, But it's like you said,
it prevents you know, the father and son from going
to the local shop and buying a box and opening
it and sharing the hobby together. But you know, as
Fanatics has said, and they've said this publicly, they want
those cards opened live. They want those cards opened on video,
they want them opened on brakes, or they want them
open somewhere where as a marketing tool they could see
all the hits being come out of that box. They
don't want you to open the box at home yourself
with the kids where you don't see the hits, you know,
And that to them is a big marketing gimmick that
they're trying to do. So you know, they allocate, you know,
they said over sixty percent to the breakers. I think
now it's gotten more like probably you know, seventy eighty percent.
And one thing that I know that they're doing at
the local card shops because Toms also doesn't want you
to go to your local shop buy the box and
put it online and sell it online either. So what
they're doing and a lot of the local card shops
is when you buy the box, and I know rob
Veris is doing this at Burbank, they cut the seal
on the box so you really can't go online and
resell it. You literally either have to open the packs
yourself there or open them, you know, at home.
Speaker 1: So that's I don't I don't mind that or Land though,
especially if it keeps the prices down. I mean when
you go to the National and they have that, like
those giveaways for like silver packs where you buy certain
products and then they open the box so you can't
keep getting credit for it. That doesn't bother me. There's
a reason they're doing that, right, A lot of there's
a legitimate reason to prevent resale. But you know, TOPS
wants to control a lot of things they need to
sort of control, maybe a little bit tight on the breakers.
Here's a comment I want to get to and I
didn't forget about you, Chris from the car deal. He says, John,
and the card shops near me in Cleveland, and I
am talking thirty year shops a long time lcsa's are
getting cut and getting the smallest of allocations there, wheezing
the shop owners. And that's I don't like hearing that,
and I believe it, and I know it's true. And
that's too bad because the lcs is I've said this,
you know, I've given breakers their flowers for like saving
the wax snitch when products were getting stale. We don't
have that anymore. There's nothing like an in person transaction. Right.
You could buy into a break, but it's like go
into a car show and purchase purchasing a card in person, right,
that never will be replaced by an online You buy
it and wait till you hit your mailbox. And as
a former LCS owner myself years ago, it has a stump.
You know, card stores are important to the hobby. I
don't care what no one, no one says. There's people
that don't believe that, that believe we can do all
card shows and online transactions. But the ability to walk
into your local LCS and talk to people and have
that camaraderie and not just on a Friday, Saturday and
Sunday and a show typically when shows are went on
a Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday as well, that won't
never be lost on me. And you know when Tops,
when their licenseeing went over to Tops, you know, I
remember them saying like the lcs are always important to us,
and so they said that, but are they do you know,
it's one thing to say it, but are they doing it? No?
Speaker 2: Go ahead, Chris, so I wanted to dovetail this with
another thing that's going on in sports right now, and
that's the price of World Cup tech. People are complaining
that it's thousands of dollars for a World Cup ticket.
It should cost cheaper. Well, if your FIFA or if
you're in this case fanatic, if somebody is willing to
pay two, three, four, five, ten times for a game
ticket or a box of Chrome Football, who do you
want putting that money? Whose pocket? Do you want that
money to go into a scalper or a reseller or you?
So when people complain about fifteen hundred bucks for a
box at Tops Chrome, I say, don't hate the player,
hate the game, because Tops knows that somebody out there
is going to pay fifteen hundred dollars for a box
they want. They want to maximize as much of that
money going into their pocket then going into an lcs's pocket.
So I don't blame them for that. On the other hand,
I do blame Tops for the structures of these products.
I don't know if you follow this guy on Twitter
a slab squatch, are you familiar with them? Either one
of you.
Speaker 3: I've heard of them, you've heard of them.
Speaker 2: Basically, he has done what I used to do when
a lot of people used to do back in the day,
and that's take the checklists in the oddsheets and throw
them into Excel and see exactly how much the production
runs on certain cards are. And with so many different
skews of chrome out there, it's almost become impossible for
someone who unless you're really really dedicated to do these things.
And I've noticed not just in TOPS football, but in
tops basketball and in tops baseball products really the growth
of these multi case hit inserts, the kaboomization of the
hobby where you have now four or five six different
multi case inserts that you know they're valuable if you strike,
if you hit on one. But on the other hand,
now on aren't are you supposed to collect some of
these things? I want to share my screen for a
moment here with something that slab Squatch did, and that
is the production runs on some of these inserts in
Chrome football.
Speaker 3: Yeah they're crazy, and you.
Speaker 2: Can, John, can you put that on on the screen?
Speaker 1: I don't do I have it? Uh, Okay, I got there.
Speaker 2: It is you look at some of these, Like everybody's
been raving about the techmobil inserts, right right, there's twenty
three cards in the set, they only meant about two
hundred of them. The same thing with the Tangy cards,
there's only two hundred of those. There's only one hundred
of them in the total production run. Now on Earth
is a collector supposed to collect that?
Speaker 1: Whatever reports going into Tangi cards, Chris, I don't know
if you heard about this. They're supposed to be rare,
but other people are saying like they're just coming out
way too frequently be oh advertised, but still some.
Speaker 3: Of them were like one in five hundred thousand packs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so ridiculous, And it's like, who is who are
these cards really four? Because they're not for collectors because
you can't collect them. I mean, even if money were
no object, how are you supposed to complete a twenty
three card set like the Techmobil and there's only two
hundred copies of each card? I mean, these are not
really four collectors. They're not meant to be collected. They're
meant for their lottery tickets. Yeah, meant to be broken.
They're meant for something to cream his shorts whenever he
pulls one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's for the flippers that Jeff Wilson's out there
that they're going to be, you know, just picking them
up and reselling those because to have two hundred each
and those odds crazy, you know, and you're right, you can't.
You can't complete a set of three of those when
when the odds are so ridiculously high. I mean, you
literally got to be a multimillionaire to those cards.
Speaker 1: And that the thing Orlando and Chris, I don't think
TOPS cares. I don't know. Let's let's be rid.
Speaker 2: I mean TOPS has basically taken the traditional collector like
me for granted for over a decade and a half
now ever since they got the exclusive license, and it shows,
I mean, these are not meant to be collected, They're
meant to.
Speaker 1: Be right there. They're meant to be transactions. I want
to I'm gonna pay this, then I'm gonna hold it,
and I'm gonna wait a month, and then I'm gonna
try to flip it and make a profit. Will offer
what I paid, And it's a hot potato, right, And
it's like who gets left holding it when you can't
flip it and make any money a properit anymore. That's
the last guy who gets either stuck with it sells
it at a loss or you know, and the guy
before who sells it at the the the utmost profit margin,
right you know. Uh, sports Card market Review says Tops
has paid employees who buying set comps a new religion releases.
That's why you always see new releases tank and prices
in few and you know what, sports Card Market Review
they don't even have to do that. I think the
folks we have in the hobby are doing that themselves.
When anything it's it's like when anything new comes out, right,
it just makes the rounds on social media. People are
posting the big hits they pulled. Where the collectors are
doing the hype four tops themselves, and Tops doesn't even
need to pay those employees to do that anymore. I'm
not trying to get anyone fired, but the hobby itself
is a hype machine in its own right, so we
never even need to pay the employees. You know, something
that's come out recently, guys that kind of ties into this,
right we talked about breaking. You know, there's there's something
that came out that to be in, like the VIP
part of Tops, like you have to pay like one
hundred k to be in that in that group. And
that's that's like a country club atmosphere, right, like an
exclusive you know, only you can come in. And I
just not the hobby, you know, And I'm gonna be
the old man on the porch here. It's not the
hobby I grew up in. And you know, someone else
put I think it was Phil like you know, collect
Vintage the main reason on one of the reads collect Yeah, yeah,
you know whenever, so yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 3: Or the biggest marketers are the breakers, Yeah, the blezz,
the backyard break, those guys. But they're the ones that
are pulling these big cars, and they're the ones that
are hyping them up and screaming at you as look
what we got, you know. So that's the number one
marketing that they've got. And then you know, another another
thing is, you know, with allocations, the local lcs are
not getting the allocation. But I can guarantee you that
Tom Brady the Vault, tom Brady Vault is getting them,
you know. And now you've got Lewis ha Wilton that's
going to be opening up all these shops just like
Tom Brady, and you know, those guys are gonna start
getting it. They're not getting them already, they'll get the
allocation more than your local local shops.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's not fair. I mean, truth be told,
I think we are most of us will agree that's
that's not fair. And you know it's it's it's too bad.
And you know that's what the hobbies become, right, is
almost a pseudo hollywoods with celebrities getting involved in open stores.
And again, that's America. It's free enterprise, right. I'm not
saying otherwise, but it's it's just you know, is Tom
Brady or Lewis Hamilton opening a store like because they
love cards? I'm sure there's a they have some sort
of passion or is it another thing they can put
in their portfolio of ownership that's gonna be an income
stream for for them. Uh And and that you know,
tom Brady's not at the card vault. You know, maybe
come maybe once or twice a year for a couple
of hours, but it's not like an LCS owner who's there,
you know, ten hours a day sorting doing the stuff
that you do as an LCS owner. And so that's
a different to me. It's a different air that's being breathed.
And you know, and that nine to five LCS owner,
if you want to put it that way, is putting
in the work and bloodying their knuckles up. But the
tops is rather have just somebody, you know, like a
Brady or Hamilton, because obviously they have more clout based
on their name and who they are and being an athlete.
Speaker 3: But you know, the the LCS is a place where,
you know, not just going and buying cards, but it's
a hangout, you know, where you can go and talk
to other collectors and hang out with other collectors. And
you know, I'll go to my local LCS and I
might not buy anything, or i might just buy some
little thing here there, but I'll spend you know, a
couple of hours. There's just chatting away with the other
collectors and with the owners and with the workers and
just talk about the hobby itself. And I think, you know,
when you're dealing with the Tom Brady type thing, it's
more of a sterile environment. You know, it's all about,
you know, the negotiating and stuff. It's not about really
chatting and talking to the hobby and talking to other
collectors that have the same mindset as us. You know,
it's more of just a different environment altogether.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yet you know I'm listening good, good, real quick, Chris.
You know, I'm a Tops kid. I grew up in Brooklyn,
New York. They were in my backyard. I mean, I
don't like, you know, not saying flattering things about them.
But I'm also an honest person, So you know, I'm
not gonna lie because I love Cops when I was
a kid. This is this is not your grandfather's tops,
right or your dad's tops. And in my case, I'm
old enough, this isn't my tops anymore. Uh you know.
So Uh it has a great comment right from Phil.
What do you think Sidberger would think? I think it
would be bittersweet for him. Film Here's what I mean
by that. You know, let's not let's not sugarcoat it,
right Sideburger was a marketeer in his own right, So
I think on one on one side, I think he
would be excited to see the popularity and what things
are going for. And I think the other side of him,
who I think did care about the everyday collector, would
be disappointed on that front. So I think if Sidberger
was still here today, I think it would be bittersweet.
I can't speak for him, But from what I know
about him and reading a lot about him and knowing
history of the hobby, I think I think he'd feeled
both of those emotions. I think he'd be happy that
the hobby and what stuff is doing, but disappointed that
maybe the average collector or the you know, the higher
percentage of the hobby can't afford some of the products
like they used to when he was with Top. So
that's that's how I would answer there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I just want to say that I'm not
against progress. I get it. I'm not against expanding the
hobby and xing it. I'm also not against necessarily against
case hit inserts either. I mean, case hits have been
around for since the ninety but that's what exactly exactly
what they were. They were case hits. You open up
a case, you got one of these things, the Top's
home field advantage card. One of the reasons why they
were so they're so popular is that they were they
are case hits. These were like one in every two
hundred and twenty to two hundred and forty pack inserts,
and they're popular because they're scarce, but you could still
realistically collect so naturally. In Series one, this year they
became one in every three thousand pack inserts and are
now multi case. Yeah. I wanted to respond to that
comment from Vintage Card Collector four thirty three. I went
to the Tom Brady Card Vault a couple of years
ago in Foxborough, and this was before Tom Brady was
involved in it, so it was just card Vault and
I was in and out in like three minutes. There
was it was all marked up blaster boxes and overpriced slabs.
I was really trying to look for maybe a dollar
box or a five dollar box. I cannot find one.
So not really impressed. And if that's really the future
of card shops, then future is not really looking so good.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I want to beck cyber Ahead marketed to kids. Well,
they're not marketing to kids anymore. They're marketing to adults
with a lot of money. Totally different era.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to backtrack it and go to a
comment I really love from from Cooter lev Right. He
says breaking is not the hobby, a casino that will
not produce lifetime collector. I like that comment because I
think I think that's a good point, and you can
be in the hobby. You don't need to I haven't
bought into a break in probably eight nine years, and
even when I did, it was it was very sporadic,
just just to see a new product and whatnot. You
can be in the hobby without being buying into a break.
You don't need breakers are not gonna like what I'm
about to say. You don't need a breaker to be
part of the hobby. You can go to your lcs
and buy single cards or packs that are affordable. You
can go to your show and do the same if
there's shows in your area. So if you don't like
an aspect of the hobby, right, you don't have to
be you know, you're not a hostage to it. You
can do other things that you can still enjoy. So,
you know, like for me and Orlando with heavy vintage PCs, right,
everything we buy has already been made. We don't have
to worry about what's the release price on this product.
We're looking for cars that already made. Chris as well
with his ninety insert chase, So you can do things
like that. And that's just a few examples. There's way
more than that as well. If you don't even like
the cart, like we're talking about tops Chrome at fifteen
hundred dollars a box. You know, don't buy a box
just my singles, wait a little bit. When when the
height dies down, that stuff all comes down. It all
comes down eventually. I mean, unless it's something that's ultra
rare that sort of maintains its price hold. Even your
your base rookies that like someone put there's one hundred
thousand or whatever based rookie you eventually want to buy,
that will come down sometimes in a little patience will
will make your your wallet a little or purse a
little bit thicker. So you know, if you can remain patient,
you can still even be active in the new part
of the hobby as well. It doesn't have to be
uh just vintage, so you know, uh you kind of
control your your your money right where it goes and whatnot.
So I've always said, like bright power hobby, we have
the powers, just sometimes we just don't use it, uh
very well, right, and that's why we see, uh some
of the prices. Guys, we've we've kind of we've talked
about this for a while, any kind of just to
wrap it up, any kind of comments before we Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean the hobby is nothing is not going to
survive without a lactor. And and this is something that
the Rubens, the Mayhans, the Lashes of the world have
never understood. You you can you can jam product with
all these breaker bait, which is what these are. But
if you're not creating products that can actually be collected,
then you're not going to have a hobby. Now, you
might not be able to ten x the hobby, but
two xing, three xing, four x by creating new collector,
that's something that's more rational.
Speaker 3: I so obviously then is going to be the end
user after all these slipping point. Basically, you just have
to be patient. So you can already get last year's
cards in the dollar boxes. So if you're patient enough,
you know you may not be able to get them
this year cheap, but next year you'll be able to
pick up some of those Bass rookies and stuff and
dollar boxes in many cases.
Speaker 1: And when you're looking through them, look to your left
or right. You may say, you may you may see
doctor Beckett right next to you, the same with me.
Speaker 3: Or me I think, so I think we can we
can move on. Exce you can talk about this all
day and it's you know, we're not going to be
able to change the way things are going. But they're
controlling pretty much what the industry is. But you know,
the industry is different than the hobby. You know, we're
more hobbyist than the industry.
Speaker 1: Ye, great point.
Speaker 3: Just focus on your collection, focus on what you're doing,
and be patient and you'll be able to buy some
things at affordable prices.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Be be smart with your money and you're purchasing
power and you'll get you'll mass a great collection in
your own way as well. All right, it's ongoing literally
as as we speak. We're kind of competing against it,
if you will. But the NFL Draft, I am those
that know me, I'm an NFL draft nerd. I follow
college football. I'm a huge Steeler fan. That's a show
in itself and I watch, you know, Thursday and Friday
is appointment TV for me. I'm in front of the TV,
maybe with some pizza and wings, seeing what the Steelers do,
seeing what some of the other teams do. You know,
and when we equate the draft of the hobby, right,
those are those of us who partake in the football
aspect of the hobby. Know it's a heavy quarterback driven hobby.
This year's quarterback class, obviously with the number one pick,
Mendoza going to the Raiders. A great kid, a really
great story. He had a great college career, especially his
senior year ending in an undefeated title. I think he's
going to be good in the NFL. How good we're
going to see but after him, you know, when we
when we're talking about quarterbacks, guys, this is not a
strong quarterback class this year. Next year on paper looks
to be the better one. So we're seeing these, you know,
fifteen hundred dollars boxes of cops chrome with last year's
rookie class, you know, the new one with the men,
and that quarterback driven class is not going to be
to me as strong. Kind of your thoughts here on
the draft, and we've seen some strides made with other
positions becoming more collectible. Receivers. Running backs are sort of
making a comeback when they were sort of a forgotten position,
you know. Jeremiah Love was the third pick this year
by the Cardinals. Little high. We saw Genti go first
round last year to the Raiders. He had an up
and down rookie season. I think that was more because
of the team he's on than anything else. On a
bad offensive line. I still am a big gent D fan.
Just weigh in here guys on this year's draft. Uh
and and kind of correlated to the hobby.
Speaker 3: You want to go Chris.
Speaker 2: First.
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, I mean it was great to see for
the Doza, Miami guy and you know, a guy from
Cuban originally, it's great to see him as you know,
being from Miami, parents her Cuban and really is the
first Cuban or Latin player to go first first pick
in the draft. So it was a big story here
in South Florida. You know, initially people thought he was
you know, he was a great player at Christopher Columbus
High School, probably one of the best players in South
Florida at the time, and everyone was disappointed when he
wasn't drafted by the University of Miami, especially when Mario
Christobal was also a player at the Christopher Columbus High School,
the same school as Mendozo's from, and they let him go.
You know, he really kind of went unnoticed until he
went to Indiana and you know, he just became became
a true star undefeated season. So it's great to see
him in his success and he's a real humble, humble guy,
godfaring guy, comes with a great family, and you know,
he's a self made guy. He worked his ass off
to get to where he is today and he earned
every single bit of it, you know. But as far
as the other drafts, I mean, you know, I've seen
a lot of linemen, a lot of offensive linemen going,
you know, high very few skilled up like even wide
receivers and running backs. Very few of them have gone
in the first rounds. I mean, I've just noticed that
a lot of defensive players are going, and a lot
of these big, you know, six', five three hundred pound
guys as The dolphins picked as their first draft draft.
Pick SO i don't see a lot of players going this,
year especially, quarterbacks like you, said Even Carson.
Speaker 1: Beck, yeah Who i'm a fan.
Speaker 3: Of maybe not the best, quarterback but still he wasn't
drafted until late last.
Speaker 1: Night, Yeah Ty. Simpson Ty simpson the second quarterback off the,
board thirteen in THE. Rams and Again i'm AN nfl.
Speaker 2: Nerd if you.
Speaker 1: Will the rumor there is that the THE gm snead
wanted him and McVeigh, didn't and THE gm won one
making the. Pick so you, Know Matt stafford just won AN.
MVP i know he's getting a little long in the,
tooth but he didn't, retire So simpson's gonna have to
learn from. Him you, know McVeigh still Likes Stetson, bennett
so now they're Bringing simpson into this. Mix and so
if you watch mcveigh's press conference and read between the,
lines he wasn't really excited about the, pick you could
tell like it was A gm pick rather than a
head coach. PICK i, mean he said all the right. Things,
obviously you don't want to show up your OWN gm
or you, know besmirch your new draft pick In, Simpson
but you could tell that, McVeigh you, KNOW i think
wanted to go in a different direction when the team
in your, division The, seahawks just won The Super, bowl
and your your first pick is at the very least
at the start at backup. Quarterback you, KNOW i don't
think he was happy with. THAT i love those kinds of.
Stories but, Again i'm AN nfl. Nerds so you, know
the n THE nfl has made the draft an event
almost like on like The Super. Bowl, Right it's now
going to be in a different city near the stadium every,
year and you, know In, PITTSBURGH i almost went to this,
thing be steel. Fan just couldn't make it work with
with THINGS i had on the home. Front but three
hundred and twenty thousand other people did, go, Guys and
so this thing is a major. Event it obviously brings
money into whatever, city uh it's, in much like The
Super bowl would. Do and so whether you like THE
nfl or you, don't, right THE nfl is you, know
speaking of, marketeering, right they've they've they're on the forefront
of the four major sports at making these major, events,
uh you know accessible to. People you, Know, uh the
baseball draft is not like. That THE Nhl draft is
in an, arena but not on par with what we
see in THE. Nfl and so THE nfl is knows
how to market. Itself and Again i've never been to
the draft now that it's a public, event BUT i
always watch it ON. Tv and you, know it's. Tradition
the first, night me and my son we watch it.
Together we order some pizza and, wings and we've done
that since he's been about twelve and he's twenty six,
now so it's kind of a family. Thing and my
wife's a football, fans so she watched it as, well
and you, know the NFL's got doing it right when
it comes to. That but going, back this year's draft
class hobby wise might be a little, lean and SO
tops better enjoy those fifteen dollars prices on this year's
pro BECAUSE i don't know if the player that we
see in this draft will be able to drive, it you,
know in subsequent.
Speaker 3: Rules, well you know What top's gonna flash. There what
they've already started with The tops now and you know
you saw ON espn there they had every every pick
signed their FIRST tops card and you see that one
there with The, mendoza and they did it right on
stage as soon as they were, picked and they talked
a little. Bit they went to the side and they
had this lady had them sign their first, card almost
like A mlb debut patch type. Card but it's A tops.
Now they're already up for sale r now on the,
website and, UH i think it actually ends. Tomorrow so
if you're gonna buy, one and you're gonna go have
to get it by. Tomorrow and they've done this for
all of The top, picks and you, know of course
you have parallels and all, that But the main hit
is the card that they, signed you, know their first
auto kind of LIKE i, said the Major League debut patch.
Card it's it's THEIR nfl draft card and they had
each one sign one card that will be the big
chase in This Tops now product that they just released.
Speaker 1: Yesterday that doesn't bother, Me, LIKE i think there's a
place for. That Like i'm not probably gonna be able
to afford it or buy, it BUT i think there's
a place for, that, right you, KNOW i think you,
KNOW i bash on. TOPS i gotta give flowers when they're,
due right the Major League debut patches that they started
For baseball or THE ud KNOWN, US i love that. Idea,
again unless you pull it out of a, Pack i'm
not gonna be able to. Afford i'm not going to own. One,
well maybe a lesser, player but generally, speaking that's something
you hope you hit when you're opening a, product and
if you have to, buy it's because you're gonna have
to pull out your. Checkbook BUT i love that right
now they're doing that in THE, nfl they're doing that
with their THEIR nba as, well and it's really a
true one on one right that is the the patch
they wore on their. Debut and if that said player
right becomes A hall Of, famer multi Time All, star
how cool of a piece of memorabilia is that right
to either own or even see maybe in you, know
Like dick's bought the schemes and put it in there
like headquarters, store right where you can go see. IT
i don't have a problem with. That While i'm not
gonna be in the market to buy, ONE i don't
have to luck to pull. ONE i still get. IT
i like. It it's a piece of, history whether you
like it or. Not so kudos for that. Idea and they're,
continuing AND i don't mind the signed thing because it's
similar to that debut. Patch. Right they're doing it on
stage at the draft and you can. Watch you're watching
them do, it and it's just to, me, it's you,
know it's a cool piece of. History i'm a history.
Guy so anytime you can get the hobby and history
and sort of meld them. Together chris And orlando in
the chat, Room i'm not opposed to. That whether you,
know WHETHER i can afford it or not has nothing
to do with whether it's a good idea or. Not
so you, KNOW i like. It uh but and you,
know going back To, mendoza he's an easy kid to root.
For you don't have to be From, miami you don't
have to be An Indiana hoogiers. Fan it's just like you, Said,
orlando it's just a humble kid who's worked, hard who you,
know anytime you see an, interview he's always quick to
give everyone else around him. Credit his, family his old,
line his receivers is running, back and he tries to
take very little for. Himself so while not being A raiders,
FAN i definitely be you, know rooting For. Mendoza uh
and except when he plays The, steelers but even, THEN
i don't want to see anything bad. HAPPEN i just
want The stealers have more points at the end of the.
Day and you, know we'll see what kind of pro
career he. HAS i Know brady is part ownership of The,
raiders and maybe he'll he'll work with him and in
the you, know preseason and and and camps leading up
TO i don't know why you wouldn't if you own
that team and you and then it's such a quarterback driven,
league so he might have some tutelage. There from a
legend in his own. Right so uh, YEAH i think.
THAT i THINK i think that they're they're Hoping mendoza
wins the gig and and cousins sort of backup security
or like you it's a good point to play. Immediately that's,
yeah that's they. Might they might start out with. Cousins
it might start out with. Cousins see how that, works
and then before uh going To mendoza with with the
philosophy is once you hand the keys Of, mendoza you
can't you can't go back. Again that's that's.
Speaker 3: It so, yeah i'd like to see, that you, know
similar to what they Did, mahome but they didn't pay
him right away and they gave him a chance to
kind of you, know slowly get into it and then you,
know he became a.
Speaker 1: Superstar, yeah Guy tony, said he's still waiting for the
jack patch ins. There that's Coming series Two serious Two.
Chrome you'll get your jackstrap patch not scratching step. Step
put that in the top loader as soon as you pull, It,
tony you, know just to keep keep the.
Speaker 3: Freshness you'll get the laundry tag patch on that.
Speaker 1: One, yeah there you, go which we like getting, uh
you know when it comes to, uh you, know uh
game used jersey and. Whatnot so all, right, GUYS i
don't want to spend a lot of time because we
spend a. Lot you. Know THE nba playoffs are. Ongoing
i'm not you, KNOW i just SAID i would have
much of AN nfl. Nerd i'm not a BIG nba,
Guy SO i don't want to come across uh as
one Because i'm.
Speaker 3: Not.
Speaker 1: Uh the playoff, Series detroit And orlando are tied at.
One Oklahoma city has a two game league two nothing Over,
Phoenix atlanta and The. Knicks it's two to. One. Atlanta
minnesota has a two to one game advantage Over. Denver
cleveland two to one game advantage Over, Toronto San antonio
Without wemby as a two to one game advantage Over.
Portland boston's Leading philly two games to. One this one
surprises me with the injuries The lakers. Have they're three
to zero Against. Houston houston looks like they're about to
be the first team unless they make some incredible, comeback you,
know they'll be the first team eliminated and The lakers
are gonna probably Get Don chicken And reeves back and you,
KNOW i don't see them winning AN nba. Title Oklahoma
city is the defending, champ But wemby's hurt For San,
antonio AS i, mentioned and they're still leading that series right.
Now you, know THE. Nba you, know we just talked
about the THE nfl draft class this year being a
little bit on the weaker side of you, know especially
on the offensive. PROSPECT i thought THE nba was sort of.
Downturning and and they had the rookie class they had
this year With Cooper, Flag Todd, Kin, nipple uh and.
OTHERS i think that's that bought them some more. Time
BUT i, think you, know if the future draft classes
are not great for THE, nba you, know that can be.
Hurt i'm not AN nba. GUY i have. CARDS i
have more of it in my show inventory than MY
pc full, disclosure but just you, know just some thoughts
here on THE nba, playoffs the star power and and the.
HOBBY i don't know who wants to go.
Speaker 3: First, WELL i mean we'll have To we'll have to
kind of wait and see how it all comes. Out
And i'm really kind of worried a little bit About.
Webby uh is really pretty. Much you, know, yeah you
Got Cooper flag a, couple But webby is the guy
when it's the. Basketball, meant his cards are the ones
that are the ones everybody's uh hunting. For and you,
know RECENTLY i saw A bless interview a guy that
paid a million dollars fee, card and a lot of
his cards are, selling you, know half a million dollars
six hundred, Thousand so that's kind of a concern with
him getting injured. THERE i know it's just a, concussion
but you got to remember he also had some blood
cloud issue. Before he's still, young you, know definitely he's
the most talented player in THE. Nba but the, injury you,
know he's just so tall and skinny that you, know
it just worries. Me the people that are investing such
huge dollars Into webee, cards it's Pretty, uh it's pretty
scary IF i had half a million dollar to be honest.
Speaker 1: With, YEAH i THINK i think it's scary if you
have a half a million dollar card of anyone that's still, playing,
right that's it's The babe Ruth. Less it's A babe
ruth Or ty cob Or Ownus. Wagner that's a risky.
Proposition it's risky there, too but a lot less, risky
let's put it that. Way Or. Lando, Uh, CHRIS i
know you're you're you're A philly. GUY i don't know
how much of AN Nba philly guy you, are but
just if you want to weigh in.
Speaker 2: Here And i'm kind of frustrated because they're playing The
celtics because The celts the the years the The sixers
had the number one pick in back to back, years
they Picked Ben simmons And Markel fultz who are no
longer on the, team And boston had the number three
pick those two years and Picked Jason tatum and who's
that other, Game jalen J, yeah and they're just carving
up The sixers all all throughout throughout this. Series but you,
Know sixer's got a good young team With, edgecomb who's
probably the third best rookie to come out of this. Class, Yeah,
max he's a. Star and IF embd ever gets healthy,
AGAIN i mean hope and.
Speaker 1: Pray WELL i think we're seeing in THE nba right
it's the young stars are like taking over as The
lebron's age out and are on the, back very back
nine of their. Careers, right the league needs these young guys,
healthy so, uh you know THAT'S i think that's. Important
they got some of that young and influx of. Talent but,
again a couple of bad draft, classes, right can when
we speak of the, hobby that can that can hurt
the hobby. Side so we'll we'll see how that plays.
Out all, right, guys we're coming down home stretch and
this is a big topic that we want to talk. About,
Right vintage probably the safest bet in my, opinion in
the hobby remain. Strong, right we're seeing still more record Pricing.
Orlando you were just in Strong, YEAH i.
Speaker 3: Know we don't have much, time BUT i do want
to make sure we can.
Speaker 1: Go a, Little we can go a little over. Time,
YEAH i don't want to be st short.
Speaker 3: CHANGES i think it's a it's really a huge subject
right now to talk. About we know the hobby's on fire,
modern but let me tell, You vintage to, me from
WHAT i, seen is hotter than. Ever At, STRONGSVILLE i
saw a lot more collectors And i've ever. Seen it
was a huge. Show all of the dealers they had
their biggest show, ever most of them even bigger than
The national and a lot of. People that was a
lot of. Money AND i saw some people THAT i
met that were collecting modern cards that now moved over
to vintage end of. It and a lot of big
money is coming into. VINTAGE i don't know whether it's
coming from the big cooin or from the people that
invest in the, market but you KNOW i was seeing big.
DOLLARS i, know fifty Two mannals being. Seld you, know
The Jackie rookies were being sold like if it was.
Water you, know, crazy the way that the money was
flowing over. There and you, know the big thing now
is become THE i appeal part of. It you, know
cards with good iopy are just going for a way
mean you almost can't even. Use you, KNOW i was
watching cards Like Jackie leaf in a three selling for
prices in a. Five you know it was nicely centered
or even had a GOOD i. Appeal and then you
got The Mike baker. Stickers Mike baker was there and
people were submitting cards there And i'm telling you those
cards as soon as they get that, sticker you, know
from What i've seen And greg From midlife To day
video on this, yesterday AND i think we should all
go watch it if you're interested in. It but he
did an analysis and showing that the silver, stickers silver
Mic baker, stickers the prices were selling fifty percent overall
for the, comps and if they get the gold, sticker
they were selling at seventy five percent over. Comps, now
you know it's it's the, Sticker BUT i think, overall
it's just THE i. Appeal you, KNOW i was trying
to buy some cards AND i know, that you, KNOW
i bought some nice stuff and, uh one of the
cards THAT i, BOUGHT i paid over comps because of
THE i. Appeal it didn't have a stick or, anything
but it was just a great looking. Card and you,
KNOW i think that is the trend right now that
a lot of people are because of the modern high
being so, expensive a lot of people are moving into.
Vintage AND i literally saw, That AND i just saw
people paying. Overcomps anything that looked, decent that was nicey,
centered you, know you're gonna pay over coops or even
way over in many. Cases SO i think the, hobby
the vintage hobby is on fire from WHAT i.
Speaker 1: Saw, yeah what are you? Guys what are your? Thoughts
And chris here, TOO i Think i'm gonna have him
on the show at some. Point i'm efforting. That But Mike,
baker what are your thoughts on? These, like you, know
his his stickers right to to say to talk about
the IOP o or what he evaluates the. Card ALMOST
i feel like that's what you're doing when you get
the card graded, itself, Right so you're paying for grading.
TWICE i get, it you know, whatever you know they do.
This i'm not a coin, collector BUT i know they
do this on the coin side of the. Hobby it's
called the Green bean. Sticker so there's a group on
the coin collecting side that does and they did it
quite frankly Before Mike baker did it on the card,
Side SO i don't want to give chronological, order, right
they put this green. BEAN i don't know the company
that does, it but they kind of grade the grade.
Right and in, coins my buddy who collects, coins that's
telling me it can bring twenty to fifty percent more
depending on the. Coin and now we're seeing that with
What Mike baker, does AND i just, like DO i
want to pay more because he puts a diamond sticker on?
It or DO i just want to buy the card
in the grade for WHATEVER i feel is like the
fair market. Price it's to, me it feels like a money,
grab but people are paying, it SO i guess maybe
it isn't you know WHAT i? Mean like where do
you where do you fall in?
Speaker 3: On it does sound like of me, grab but the
people are paying, it especially people that are newer to
the hobby or especially newer to the vintage part of the.
Hobby they have money to. Spend they're taking, that as you,
know kind of a second opinion type thing versus just you,
know them knowing vintage and Knowing BUT i really think
that the older collectors like me and the people that's
smart enough know AN I appeal card and this is
an opportunity because you can get a GOOD I appeal
card right now that you, Know like this is my
pickup THAT i got AND i had to share, that
but it's a it's a, one but it's a beautiful.
One the thirty Three lugarrick the card and it's just
a it has THE i appeal for, me doesn't have the,
sticker doesn't have anything on, it but it's a card
that if you look at the, other well one this
really is way above the grade in my, Opinion so
if you have a good, EYE i think for vintage,
guys this is a good opportunity to get a great
card and get it before it gets, STICKERED i think
is the, key you, know because once, again great.
Speaker 1: Great comment here From Sports girls. Seventeen we're getting away
from the card. Itself people are looking at the grades
and stickers, first and there's some truth in, there, right
you know WHEN i go to international here in a
few months and that things sneaking up on us. Quick you,
KNOW i have a, list AND i Know i've talked
about this, before probably five to seven vintage CARDS i
want for my, people And i'm looking for the card,
first and obviously the grade's gonna you, know determine what
price it's gonna cost. Me AND i kind of go
in Knowing i'm looking for it maybe in this grade, range,
Right But i'm looking for the card first and then
all that other. Stuff but they are, factors, Right we
obviously can't Discount they're they're important. Factor But i'm Not
i'm not a BIG i don't have any any of
MY pc vintage. STUFF i don't have Any Mike baker.
Ones if you Will i'm not SAYING i never own,
one But i'm not gonna pay an extreme of my
out more just because of, that is What i'm. Saying
but IF i picked up one in a trade or,
SOMETHING i don't have a problem with. It BUT i
just it's almost like if you if you pay for
it's you're paying for grading. Twice but some people. Do,
right people crack stuff out because they don't like the
grade and send it back. In they're paying for grading.
Twice so obviously he's doing good, business so there's a
market for. It, Right he's traveling to these, shows he's
at The, national so business must be. GOOD i KNOW tj,
mentioned you know he may not be the most honest
guy in the. World that's a show in. Itself i'm
just not a fan of. That, Again i'm not SAYING
i never own a card with the diamond sticker on.
IT i just not going for, me speaking for only,
Myself i'm not going to pay an extreme amount more for.
THAT i don't need. It it's not a prerequisite for.
ME i don't ever EVEN i would never even probably
submit car to him to pay for that. SERVICE i
just but enough people are where he's doing good, Business
chris way in. Here you know you collect vintage as,
well even with the nineties stuff, now which is it's
not it's, not it's, not but it's. Not you, know
you know Where i'm, Going but you, know you know
the vintage, market whether you collect it or. Not kind
of way in, here as we come down the home
stretch when it pertains to where the vintage market. Is
if you want to give your thoughts on, This Mike, Baker,
well first of.
Speaker 2: ALL i collect, cards not. Numbers, Steps so that's just
me as an. ECONOMIST i want to say that we're
kind of in a period of economic, uncertainty and when that,
happens a lot of people flock to real asset things
like precious, metals real, estate and, yes even. Collectibles SO
i think a lot of people are getting into vintage
just as a storage of value for, now just to
ride it out for a few. Years we'll see how
long this this boom in vintage cards.
Speaker 1: Lasts, Yeah and the other Thing i've heard, here and
it's a good point right From Sports Card Market, review
why don't they put the sticker on the back of
the slab or the bottom back corner right sticker on
the front looks. Bad and AGAIN i talked about the
green bean sticker on the coin, hobby they put it
on the front. TOO i think they put it on the.
FRONT i don't disagree with that, point BUT i MEAN
i think they they you, know they put it on
the front because they feel whether you agree with it or,
not like me or someone, else, right that enhances the.
Value so you want that if you're a, seller and
you won't have that in your, showcase, right you want
that sticker to be. Prevalent if it's on the, back
you may not see. It now you can tell, someone,
yeah That yogi bearer has A nba sticker on the. Back,
Right but if it's not on the front and you
price it, accordingly your card might look over. Priced some
are you it's overpriced anyway if you're charging extra for
the THE nba sticker on. It so that's why it's
on the, front, Right it's it's to get more money
out of that, card the truth be. Told but does
it look does it change the look at the? Card?
Yeah but anyone that is either buying that, card they
want it on the front because they probably reselling it
and they want to get the most bang for their.
Dollar if it's a in YOUR pc, collection you probably
want it more on the backside of the. Card but you, know,
uh to, me it's just it's just another way that
someone can make money for themselves in the. Hobby, again
this Is. America the you, know the demand is there
enough people are are Using Mike baker's, Service SO i
guess the proofs in that. Putting for, ME i don't need.
It it's not a. PREREQUISITE i don't own any cards
with that. Sticker i'm not opposed to. It IF i
bought a card and it didn't cost me really more
and that sticker was, there then so be. It or
IF i made a trade and it was for a
card with AN nba, Sticker i'll get. It i'm not
opposed to, it BUT i DON'T i can live without
it just the. Same so that's kind of WHERE i weigh.
In i'm effort to get him on the. Show he's
a hard guy to pin, down But i'll ask him
some of those tough. QUESTIONS i mean that will be you.
Know one of the QUESTIONS i, asked, like why should
your opinion other than being a former, greater why is
your worth as much as it seems like it is. Right,
so you, KNOW i feel like, Me, orlando you, Know
chris and many of you out there can look at
a card and, say, man that's a you, know that's
a really nice looking three or. FOUR i think we've
done most people have done this long enough they can
kind of make those assessments. Themselves we don't have stickers per,
se but we can still conversate about it and you,
know talk about it like My Jackie rookie and My Aaron.
Rookie ANYONE i show it to. You it doesn't have
A Mike baker, sticker but they're, like that's. Undergraded, Man
that's THAT i appeal on both of those. Cards Like
i've even had people, say you ever thought about re subbing.
It i've thought about. It i'm probably not going to do,
It but that's WHAT i appeal is those kinds of.
Conversations AND i, think you, KNOW i think we're all
capable of having them if we're experienced enough in the, hobby,
right you, know if you look at enough, cards you,
know like you can put two four's next to each
other and one may look just a lot a lot
better than the, other and that's just that's just how it.
Speaker 3: Works, right that's a great, point you, know if you
if you, know you, Know but, YEAH i think the
sticker is sometimes more kind of for newer collectors and
in almost like a status symbol saying look WHAT i
got with a sticker and, stuff you, know versus looking
at the actual card and and getting a card that
looks you, know. Undergraded you, know that's WHAT i look.
Speaker 1: For, Yeah and and, listen you, know give credit with
whether you like him or you, don't or you're a
fan of the service or. Not he's marketed and he's doing,
well like you got to GIVE i got to give
that sort of. Credit, well it may not be a
SERVICE i use enough other people believe in, it, uh you,
know so it's just not my. Bag and, AGAIN i
HOPE i can get him on Because i'm going to
be respectful and use. Tech But I've i've definitely got
some pointed. Questions i'd like to hear how he you,
know answers it and his kind of takes on. It
so and again that's the beauty of, it All, right
we all have, opinion right when we're buying a vintage, Car,
well we're any CARD i don't even want to make it.
Justment but when we're buying any, card, right our opinion
is what whether we pull out our wallet or not
and make the purchase, right it's it's, hope and that's
the way it should, be should. Be, uh, yeah this
is my new service fill In, oklahoma says THE Jna
John Newman. AUTHENTICATION i don't have a, sticker BUT i
do a. Value you, know we all evaluate if we're
about to make a, purchase you, know whether or not
that card passes the muster for the price we're gonna.
Pay and that's how it should.
Speaker 3: Be.
Speaker 1: Right it's your, money it's your, wallet it's your. Account
you should be able, to, uh you, know make that
decision and there's nothing wrong with. You like If i'm
at The national or any show right In orlando's there
Or chris is there and they're, Nearby, like, hey what
do you think we've all done? That? Right, hey what
are you thinking thinking about buying? This what do you?
Think it's always nice to? Get it's sort of a second,
opinion but those ones are. Free you, know there's a
difference between a free second opinion and one that might
cost you a forty to fifty. Bucks so you, know
for some they don't have a you, Know i'd rather
just ask a hobby friend, like, hey you think this
is a decent. Deal i'm leaning that way to either
talk me off the ledge or tell me to buy
it real, quick you know, So and it's not wrong with, that,
Right it's the fraternity of the. Hobby it's, fun you.
Know And i've had people, Say, JOHN i think i'd hold,
off and what's my next? Question, okay why what's the?
Reason why do you say? That and generally they have
a good. Reason and now when it's up to me
WHETHER i take their advice or pull the trigger, anyway
right at the end of the, day it's still your.
Decision sometimes it's nice to get a second. Opinion so
we went a little over, time BUT i didn't want
to short change this. Topic AND i appeal. Vintage you.
Know we talked about how strong The martyn is. Doing
the vintage is right, there just the, same and SO,
i you, know And orlando just getting back basically from.
STRONGVIL i wanted to touch on that as. Well so
whatever you, collect, right modern vintage both again you could you,
know it's LIKE i say with my, mantras, right you're
THE ceo of your. Hobby so what you want to,
buy what you don't want to, buy what you want
to partake, in what you don't want to partake. In
at the end of the, day that's that's the beauty
of it as you get to. Decide, So, Orlando, chris
thank you for for. Me i'm headed to about an
hour and twenty minutes From. Cooperstown i'm meeting a friend
there today on a Rainy New york, Day i'll be
headed To. COOPERSTOWN i haven't been there in a couple
of years. Now so my Friend brad from From georgia
is In cooperstown and, say, hey come out here and
hang out with. Me so that's Where i'm. Headed any
big plans for the, Weekend Orlando, Chris, no not.
Speaker 2: Much just recovering from my recent arm.
Speaker 1: Surgery, yeah, Yeah chris. Had chris had. Surgery we WISH
i THINK i speak for, many wishing you speedy recovery
and healthy, recovery you, know with an arm and. Shoulder
as a former athlete, myself ACTUALLY i still play competitive, softball.
Right you, know sometimes you don't realize the importance of
something until you lose the use of. It So we're
wishing you uh speedy recovery and to get back as
close to one hundred percent uh as you. Can, orlando
good to see you as always doing well AND i
gotta Get speaking of strong, ago everyone always asked, me
like you got to get. HERE i haven't never been.
Speaker 3: Yet you.
Speaker 1: Know for, me it's it's always so close to The
national that, LIKE i don't know if it's in the
budget to do. Both so IF i, ever IF i
Think orlando CRIF i ever take a national year off
WHERE i Know i'm not going to The, national then
there might be SOMETHWHERE i can try to work that
in rather because it is, drivable it's a five, HOURS
i can drive. It it's just THAT i don't want
to go and not get. Anything And orlando kind of
scared me with what he. Said everything's kind of going
for and more so like you, know but but there
are always, deals, Right there always deals to be, had
even in a really bull and strong, market there's always
a deals. Had so all, right, guys thanks as, always
and we'll see you next week chat. ROOM i say
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