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Speaker 1: Good Saturday morning to the hobby verse. Is time for

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another episode of Hobby Hotline as always live at eleven

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am Eastern eight am Pacific. I haven't been on. It's

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been at least three weeks, maybe longer, but that's probably

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a good thing, the less of my ugly mug. But

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I'm joined by two other gentlemen this morning that you

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know I make them look better just by default. But

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to my right on the screen, Chris Harris Morning, Chris morning.

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Speaker 2: I think it's been two months since I've been on

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the show, So take care of the guy that does

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the scheduling and put it on him.

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Speaker 1: I don't know who. I don't know who that is.

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Speaker 2: But we're in central New York somewhere.

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Speaker 1: I have to have a talk with that guy and

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see what we can do. And below us only on

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the screen as I always say, Uh, Orlando a collector's dream,

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morning sir.

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Speaker 3: Good morning John and Chris. Yeah yeah, I agree with Chris.

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Did about a month as I've been on also, so

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uh we got we gotta talk to the scheduler.

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Speaker 1: Yeah again, I'm gonna yell at him and they'll probably

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yell back at me if I know him. Uh. Well,

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so let's get some other good mornings, uh from those

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out there in the chat room. Mad City Brew. Good morning,

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uh from our own channel hair for collectors. Hope, hope

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everyone's enjoying the Major League Baseball in the NFL Draft.

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I am. I can only speak for myself. Five foul

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ball or five foul ball, good morning as well a

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fan in the sports what's up, y'all? Thundering up in

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Oklahoma City? Baby? Here in Central New York, it is

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a rainy, overcast day and that's gonna be most of

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the weather for the whole day. So uh, not a

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great day, but in Central New York were used, We're

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used to it. Peter B. Forty eight seventy one. Good

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morning from southern New England. Is it too early to drink?

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Speaker 3: No? No?

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Speaker 1: I agree with Chris. It depends where you are. Uh

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and uh, you know, thank you for that confluence sports cards.

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The Drew Arler, the Drew Aller draft pick was a

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waste by the Steelers. I agree that was ugly and

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if they if they liked him that much, We're gonna

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talk a little bit of draft guys. But if that,

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if the Steelers liked him that much, they could have

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waited a few rounds and probably still got him, So

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that that's even even more disappointing that they wasted earlier

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pick to make that pick. But I can I love it. Yeah, well, yeah,

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story about what happened with Lemon? Yeah yeah, mighty did

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us either either skunked us there, you might have did

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us a favor depending on what side of Lemon, Uh

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you fall out or uh? He says good morning to

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Orlando baseball card curmudgeon, what up fellas? Hello? Good morning uh?

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And vict our very own Vic there says good morning,

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uh Man and chat room. So all right, guys, let's

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get right into it. I know this show itself has

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kind of covered it already, but we haven't weighed in

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on it yet. And that's the now that football falls

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in the license category of cap cops and fanatics. You

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know the box you know that's taking place. The boxes

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are out. The price is to me, and I'm a

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football card collector, so I buy football a new invintage

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as well, fifteen dollars a box, and that's crazy to me.

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I get it. They got to pay for their licenseing

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that's expensive. The other thing I noticed, Chris and Orlando

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chat Room is some of the autos in it of

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the players are bringing more money than like their rookie

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autos or there rpas from like Panini product. So to me,

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it's crazy. Obviously some of the pricing has come down

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since its release, but it's still expensive. It's not it's

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not crashed. I don't know who wants to jump in here,

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but I think it's I think it's it's it's crazy.

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Speaker 2: It is, but you know, somebody's paying fifteen hundred bucks

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for a hobby box. It ain't us collector. I think

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we all know who the audience for this product really is.

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Who's paying that?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean obviously the bi and ends in a raker,

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the breakers that have made those prices possible for the

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most part. I mean when you're getting up there, you know,

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in some cases almost two thousand dollars for a hobby box.

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It's just out of control and it's very difficult for

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you know, you're made to go to the hobby store

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and even get it. And even when you deal with

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some of the hobby stores, they're not getting the allocation

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to be getting I mean I heard Rob Barris got

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a total free case case and a case of jumbos

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and that's it in a case of jumbles, and he's

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got the biggest store, I think in the country. So

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it's really ridiculous that it's going mostly to the Breakers.

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And then you've got the Breaker's Delight product, which is

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I think over three thousand dollars for that for the box,

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I think it brings something like twelve cards. I mean

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it comes out to two hundred and fifty dollars per card.

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I understand that, you know, that's not going to have

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a lot of bass or any base cards in there.

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They're all going to kind of be hits, I guess,

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but still talking about two hundred and fifty dollars per

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card for those Breakers Delight and I don't know it.

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To me, it's just out of control. I don't know

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how much this can continue. And it's really taking us

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football card collectors kind of out of the market. And wait,

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the prices drop so we can buy some singles here

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and there.

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Speaker 1: I don't know Rob super well, Orlando, and that seems

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crazy to me that he's only getting three boxes and

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I hate I'm getting over there, Oh three cases.

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Speaker 2: Three cases the Hobby and one of jumbos.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, what is there? Ten boxes? A case of

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thirty boxes. Again, I'm guessing no, I think it's.

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Speaker 2: Well in a case for hobby and so pep.

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Speaker 1: Thirty six boxes. Yeah, it's it's not a lot. And

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I'm gonna assume he's not gonna lie. I would assume

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he's not gonna lie about that, or I would hope, uh,

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he wouldn't lie about that. But there's no shortage of it.

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Maybe he's not getting as much as he would like,

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but the overall there's gonna be no shortage of it

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across the board. Like you say, breakers, you know, breaking

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is a double edged sword, guys, I wrote, I've wrote

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articles about it. Right. It saved the wax industry at

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a time when the wax industry or the wax niche

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part of the hobby was sort of not where we

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know it to be today. So nothing doesn't sell out

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almost anymore. I mean, bowling cards, corn holed cards, they

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sell anything, and breakers will break literally anything. But where

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it's hurt the hobby is it's driven up the prices

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for the average collector that wants to just buy a

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box on their own and open it at home, maybe

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with a son or daughter or whoever, or themselves. Right,

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that's where that's who's sort of taking it on the chin.

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You know, how do you fix that? Right? I mean,

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if that's the problem, how do you fix that? I

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saw someone else said, man City, right, boxes shouldn't be

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more than one hundred and seventy five dollars, doesn't matter

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what one year wonders in that box. Now, obviously, products

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cost different amounts to make. You know, we got products

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like Transcendent and Definitive that are high end. You know,

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you never would see them at that price level. Well,

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here we're talking about Yes, it's chrome, it's not flagship

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regular tops, but fifteen hundred dollars is fifteen hundred dollars

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and that really prices a lot of people out of

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obtaining the box, other than maybe lucking out and going

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to Walmart and buying a blaster. But again, that's retail,

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not hobby. How do we fix that? Orlando or Chris

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or is it too late?

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Speaker 3: Go ahead?

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Speaker 2: Literally? Good?

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Speaker 1: Good?

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean I think it's too late to fix

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it right now with everything going on with all the

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breakers and stuff. You know, But it's like you said,

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it prevents you know, the father and son from going

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to the local shop and buying a box and opening

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it and sharing the hobby together. But you know, as

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Fanatics has said, and they've said this publicly, they want

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those cards opened live. They want those cards opened on video,

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they want them opened on brakes, or they want them

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open somewhere where as a marketing tool they could see

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all the hits being come out of that box. They

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don't want you to open the box at home yourself

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with the kids where you don't see the hits, you know,

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they're trying to do. So you know, they allocate, you know,

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they said over sixty percent to the breakers. I think

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now it's gotten more like probably you know, seventy eighty percent.

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And one thing that I know that they're doing at

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the local card shops because Toms also doesn't want you

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to go to your local shop buy the box and

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put it online and sell it online either. So what

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they're doing and a lot of the local card shops

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is when you buy the box, and I know rob

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Veris is doing this at Burbank, they cut the seal

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on the box so you really can't go online and

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resell it. You literally either have to open the packs

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yourself there or open them, you know, at home.

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Speaker 1: So that's I don't I don't mind that or Land though,

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especially if it keeps the prices down. I mean when

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you go to the National and they have that, like

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those giveaways for like silver packs where you buy certain

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products and then they open the box so you can't

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keep getting credit for it. That doesn't bother me. There's

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a reason they're doing that, right, A lot of there's

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a legitimate reason to prevent resale. But you know, TOPS

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wants to control a lot of things they need to

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sort of control, maybe a little bit tight on the breakers.

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Here's a comment I want to get to and I

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didn't forget about you, Chris from the car deal. He says, John,

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and the card shops near me in Cleveland, and I

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am talking thirty year shops a long time lcsa's are

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getting cut and getting the smallest of allocations there, wheezing

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the shop owners. And that's I don't like hearing that,

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and I believe it, and I know it's true. And

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that's too bad because the lcs is I've said this,

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you know, I've given breakers their flowers for like saving

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the wax snitch when products were getting stale. We don't

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have that anymore. There's nothing like an in person transaction. Right.

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You could buy into a break, but it's like go

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into a car show and purchase purchasing a card in person, right,

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that never will be replaced by an online You buy

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it and wait till you hit your mailbox. And as

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a former LCS owner myself years ago, it has a stump.

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You know, card stores are important to the hobby. I

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don't care what no one, no one says. There's people

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that don't believe that, that believe we can do all

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card shows and online transactions. But the ability to walk

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into your local LCS and talk to people and have

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that camaraderie and not just on a Friday, Saturday and

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Sunday and a show typically when shows are went on

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a Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday as well, that won't

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never be lost on me. And you know when Tops,

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when their licenseeing went over to Tops, you know, I

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remember them saying like the lcs are always important to us,

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and so they said that, but are they do you know,

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it's one thing to say it, but are they doing it? No?

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Speaker 2: Go ahead, Chris, so I wanted to dovetail this with

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another thing that's going on in sports right now, and

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that's the price of World Cup tech. People are complaining

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that it's thousands of dollars for a World Cup ticket.

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It should cost cheaper. Well, if your FIFA or if

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you're in this case fanatic, if somebody is willing to

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pay two, three, four, five, ten times for a game

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ticket or a box of Chrome Football, who do you

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want putting that money? Whose pocket? Do you want that

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money to go into a scalper or a reseller or you?

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So when people complain about fifteen hundred bucks for a

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box at Tops Chrome, I say, don't hate the player,

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hate the game, because Tops knows that somebody out there

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is going to pay fifteen hundred dollars for a box

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they want. They want to maximize as much of that

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money going into their pocket then going into an lcs's pocket.

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So I don't blame them for that. On the other hand,

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I do blame Tops for the structures of these products.

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I don't know if you follow this guy on Twitter

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a slab squatch, are you familiar with them? Either one

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of you.

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Speaker 3: I've heard of them, you've heard of them.

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Speaker 2: Basically, he has done what I used to do when

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a lot of people used to do back in the day,

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and that's take the checklists in the oddsheets and throw

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them into Excel and see exactly how much the production

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runs on certain cards are. And with so many different

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skews of chrome out there, it's almost become impossible for

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someone who unless you're really really dedicated to do these things.

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And I've noticed not just in TOPS football, but in

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tops basketball and in tops baseball products really the growth

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of these multi case hit inserts, the kaboomization of the

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hobby where you have now four or five six different

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multi case inserts that you know they're valuable if you strike,

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if you hit on one. But on the other hand,

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now on aren't are you supposed to collect some of

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these things? I want to share my screen for a

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moment here with something that slab Squatch did, and that

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is the production runs on some of these inserts in

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Chrome football.

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Speaker 3: Yeah they're crazy, and you.

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Speaker 2: Can, John, can you put that on on the screen?

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Speaker 1: I don't do I have it? Uh, Okay, I got there.

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Speaker 2: It is you look at some of these, Like everybody's

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been raving about the techmobil inserts, right right, there's twenty

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three cards in the set, they only meant about two

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hundred of them. The same thing with the Tangy cards,

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there's only two hundred of those. There's only one hundred

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of them in the total production run. Now on Earth

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is a collector supposed to collect that?

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Speaker 1: Whatever reports going into Tangi cards, Chris, I don't know

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if you heard about this. They're supposed to be rare,

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but other people are saying like they're just coming out

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way too frequently be oh advertised, but still some.

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Speaker 3: Of them were like one in five hundred thousand packs.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so ridiculous, And it's like, who is who are

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these cards really four? Because they're not for collectors because

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you can't collect them. I mean, even if money were

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no object, how are you supposed to complete a twenty

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three card set like the Techmobil and there's only two

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hundred copies of each card? I mean, these are not

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really four collectors. They're not meant to be collected. They're

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meant for their lottery tickets. Yeah, meant to be broken.

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They're meant for something to cream his shorts whenever he

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pulls one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's for the flippers that Jeff Wilson's out there

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that they're going to be, you know, just picking them

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up and reselling those because to have two hundred each

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and those odds crazy, you know, and you're right, you can't.

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You can't complete a set of three of those when

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when the odds are so ridiculously high. I mean, you

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literally got to be a multimillionaire to those cards.

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Speaker 1: And that the thing Orlando and Chris, I don't think

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TOPS cares. I don't know. Let's let's be rid.

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Speaker 2: I mean TOPS has basically taken the traditional collector like

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me for granted for over a decade and a half

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now ever since they got the exclusive license, and it shows,

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I mean, these are not meant to be collected, They're

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meant to.

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Speaker 1: Be right there. They're meant to be transactions. I want

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to I'm gonna pay this, then I'm gonna hold it,

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and I'm gonna wait a month, and then I'm gonna

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try to flip it and make a profit. Will offer

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what I paid, And it's a hot potato, right, And

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it's like who gets left holding it when you can't

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flip it and make any money a properit anymore. That's

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the last guy who gets either stuck with it sells

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it at a loss or you know, and the guy

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before who sells it at the the the utmost profit margin,

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right you know. Uh, sports Card market Review says Tops

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has paid employees who buying set comps a new religion releases.

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That's why you always see new releases tank and prices

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in few and you know what, sports Card Market Review

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they don't even have to do that. I think the

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folks we have in the hobby are doing that themselves.

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When anything it's it's like when anything new comes out, right,

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it just makes the rounds on social media. People are

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posting the big hits they pulled. Where the collectors are

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doing the hype four tops themselves, and Tops doesn't even

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need to pay those employees to do that anymore. I'm

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not trying to get anyone fired, but the hobby itself

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is a hype machine in its own right, so we

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never even need to pay the employees. You know, something

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that's come out recently, guys that kind of ties into this,

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right we talked about breaking. You know, there's there's something

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that came out that to be in, like the VIP

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part of Tops, like you have to pay like one

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hundred k to be in that in that group. And

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that's that's like a country club atmosphere, right, like an

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exclusive you know, only you can come in. And I

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just not the hobby, you know, And I'm gonna be

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the old man on the porch here. It's not the

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hobby I grew up in. And you know, someone else

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put I think it was Phil like you know, collect

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Vintage the main reason on one of the reads collect Yeah, yeah,

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you know whenever, so yeah, go ahead.

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Speaker 3: Or the biggest marketers are the breakers, Yeah, the blezz,

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the backyard break, those guys. But they're the ones that

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are pulling these big cars, and they're the ones that

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are hyping them up and screaming at you as look

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what we got, you know. So that's the number one

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marketing that they've got. And then you know, another another

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thing is, you know, with allocations, the local lcs are

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not getting the allocation. But I can guarantee you that

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Tom Brady the Vault, tom Brady Vault is getting them,

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you know. And now you've got Lewis ha Wilton that's

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going to be opening up all these shops just like

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Tom Brady, and you know, those guys are gonna start

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getting it. They're not getting them already, they'll get the

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allocation more than your local local shops.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's not fair. I mean, truth be told,

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I think we are most of us will agree that's

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that's not fair. And you know it's it's it's too bad.

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And you know that's what the hobbies become, right, is

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almost a pseudo hollywoods with celebrities getting involved in open stores.

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And again, that's America. It's free enterprise, right. I'm not

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saying otherwise, but it's it's just you know, is Tom

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Brady or Lewis Hamilton opening a store like because they

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love cards? I'm sure there's a they have some sort

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of passion or is it another thing they can put

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in their portfolio of ownership that's gonna be an income

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stream for for them. Uh And and that you know,

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tom Brady's not at the card vault. You know, maybe

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come maybe once or twice a year for a couple

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of hours, but it's not like an LCS owner who's there,

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you know, ten hours a day sorting doing the stuff

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that you do as an LCS owner. And so that's

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a different to me. It's a different air that's being breathed.

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And you know, and that nine to five LCS owner,

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if you want to put it that way, is putting

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in the work and bloodying their knuckles up. But the

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tops is rather have just somebody, you know, like a

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Brady or Hamilton, because obviously they have more clout based

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on their name and who they are and being an athlete.

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Speaker 3: But you know, the the LCS is a place where,

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you know, not just going and buying cards, but it's

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a hangout, you know, where you can go and talk

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to other collectors and hang out with other collectors. And

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you know, I'll go to my local LCS and I

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might not buy anything, or i might just buy some

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little thing here there, but I'll spend you know, a

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couple of hours. There's just chatting away with the other

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collectors and with the owners and with the workers and

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just talk about the hobby itself. And I think, you know,

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when you're dealing with the Tom Brady type thing, it's

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more of a sterile environment. You know, it's all about,

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you know, the negotiating and stuff. It's not about really

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chatting and talking to the hobby and talking to other

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collectors that have the same mindset as us. You know,

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it's more of just a different environment altogether.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yet you know I'm listening good, good, real quick, Chris.

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You know, I'm a Tops kid. I grew up in Brooklyn,

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New York. They were in my backyard. I mean, I

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don't like, you know, not saying flattering things about them.

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But I'm also an honest person, So you know, I'm

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not gonna lie because I love Cops when I was

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a kid. This is this is not your grandfather's tops,

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right or your dad's tops. And in my case, I'm

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old enough, this isn't my tops anymore. Uh you know.

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So Uh it has a great comment right from Phil.

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What do you think Sidberger would think? I think it

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would be bittersweet for him. Film Here's what I mean

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by that. You know, let's not let's not sugarcoat it,

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right Sideburger was a marketeer in his own right, So

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I think on one on one side, I think he

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would be excited to see the popularity and what things

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are going for. And I think the other side of him,

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who I think did care about the everyday collector, would

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be disappointed on that front. So I think if Sidberger

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was still here today, I think it would be bittersweet.

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I can't speak for him, But from what I know

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about him and reading a lot about him and knowing

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history of the hobby, I think I think he'd feeled

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both of those emotions. I think he'd be happy that

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the hobby and what stuff is doing, but disappointed that

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maybe the average collector or the you know, the higher

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percentage of the hobby can't afford some of the products

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like they used to when he was with Top. So

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that's that's how I would answer there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I just want to say that I'm not

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against progress. I get it. I'm not against expanding the

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hobby and xing it. I'm also not against necessarily against

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case hit inserts either. I mean, case hits have been

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around for since the ninety but that's what exactly exactly

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what they were. They were case hits. You open up

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a case, you got one of these things, the Top's

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home field advantage card. One of the reasons why they

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were so they're so popular is that they were they

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are case hits. These were like one in every two

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hundred and twenty to two hundred and forty pack inserts,

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and they're popular because they're scarce, but you could still

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realistically collect so naturally. In Series one, this year they

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became one in every three thousand pack inserts and are

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now multi case. Yeah. I wanted to respond to that

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comment from Vintage Card Collector four thirty three. I went

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to the Tom Brady Card Vault a couple of years

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ago in Foxborough, and this was before Tom Brady was

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involved in it, so it was just card Vault and

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I was in and out in like three minutes. There

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was it was all marked up blaster boxes and overpriced slabs.

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I was really trying to look for maybe a dollar

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box or a five dollar box. I cannot find one.

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So not really impressed. And if that's really the future

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of card shops, then future is not really looking so good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I want to beck cyber Ahead marketed to kids. Well,

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they're not marketing to kids anymore. They're marketing to adults

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with a lot of money. Totally different era.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to backtrack it and go to a

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comment I really love from from Cooter lev Right. He

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says breaking is not the hobby, a casino that will

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not produce lifetime collector. I like that comment because I

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think I think that's a good point, and you can

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be in the hobby. You don't need to I haven't

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bought into a break in probably eight nine years, and

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even when I did, it was it was very sporadic,

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just just to see a new product and whatnot. You

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can be in the hobby without being buying into a break.

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You don't need breakers are not gonna like what I'm

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about to say. You don't need a breaker to be

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part of the hobby. You can go to your lcs

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and buy single cards or packs that are affordable. You

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can go to your show and do the same if

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there's shows in your area. So if you don't like

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an aspect of the hobby, right, you don't have to

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be you know, you're not a hostage to it. You

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can do other things that you can still enjoy. So,

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you know, like for me and Orlando with heavy vintage PCs, right,

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everything we buy has already been made. We don't have

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to worry about what's the release price on this product.

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We're looking for cars that already made. Chris as well

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with his ninety insert chase, So you can do things

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like that. And that's just a few examples. There's way

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more than that as well. If you don't even like

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the cart, like we're talking about tops Chrome at fifteen

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hundred dollars a box. You know, don't buy a box

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just my singles, wait a little bit. When when the

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00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:43,400
height dies down, that stuff all comes down. It all

471
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,160
comes down eventually. I mean, unless it's something that's ultra

472
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:50,480
rare that sort of maintains its price hold. Even your

473
00:27:50,599 --> 00:27:53,960
your base rookies that like someone put there's one hundred

474
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:58,039
thousand or whatever based rookie you eventually want to buy,

475
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:02,480
that will come down sometimes in a little patience will

476
00:28:02,519 --> 00:28:05,319
will make your your wallet a little or purse a

477
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:09,200
little bit thicker. So you know, if you can remain patient,

478
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,079
you can still even be active in the new part

479
00:28:12,079 --> 00:28:13,480
of the hobby as well. It doesn't have to be

480
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:17,400
uh just vintage, so you know, uh you kind of

481
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:22,400
control your your your money right where it goes and whatnot.

482
00:28:22,559 --> 00:28:26,160
So I've always said, like bright power hobby, we have

483
00:28:26,319 --> 00:28:30,000
the powers, just sometimes we just don't use it, uh

484
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,079
very well, right, and that's why we see, uh some

485
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,319
of the prices. Guys, we've we've kind of we've talked

486
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,839
about this for a while, any kind of just to

487
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,960
wrap it up, any kind of comments before we Yeah.

488
00:28:43,039 --> 00:28:46,119
Speaker 2: I mean the hobby is nothing is not going to

489
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:50,680
survive without a lactor. And and this is something that

490
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:56,039
the Rubens, the Mayhans, the Lashes of the world have

491
00:28:56,240 --> 00:29:00,240
never understood. You you can you can jam product with

492
00:29:00,319 --> 00:29:04,799
all these breaker bait, which is what these are. But

493
00:29:04,839 --> 00:29:09,160
if you're not creating products that can actually be collected,

494
00:29:09,319 --> 00:29:11,920
then you're not going to have a hobby. Now, you

495
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,799
might not be able to ten x the hobby, but

496
00:29:15,359 --> 00:29:19,880
two xing, three xing, four x by creating new collector,

497
00:29:20,599 --> 00:29:23,079
that's something that's more rational.

498
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,519
Speaker 3: I so obviously then is going to be the end

499
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:30,920
user after all these slipping point. Basically, you just have

500
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,279
to be patient. So you can already get last year's

501
00:29:34,359 --> 00:29:37,519
cards in the dollar boxes. So if you're patient enough,

502
00:29:37,599 --> 00:29:38,920
you know you may not be able to get them

503
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,200
this year cheap, but next year you'll be able to

504
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,599
pick up some of those Bass rookies and stuff and

505
00:29:44,079 --> 00:29:45,920
dollar boxes in many cases.

506
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 1: And when you're looking through them, look to your left

507
00:29:48,759 --> 00:29:51,119
or right. You may say, you may you may see

508
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,359
doctor Beckett right next to you, the same with me.

509
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 3: Or me I think, so I think we can we

510
00:29:59,039 --> 00:30:01,200
can move on. Exce you can talk about this all

511
00:30:01,279 --> 00:30:02,880
day and it's you know, we're not going to be

512
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:04,960
able to change the way things are going. But they're

513
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,880
controlling pretty much what the industry is. But you know,

514
00:30:08,039 --> 00:30:10,359
the industry is different than the hobby. You know, we're

515
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,240
more hobbyist than the industry.

516
00:30:12,359 --> 00:30:13,359
Speaker 1: Ye, great point.

517
00:30:13,559 --> 00:30:16,519
Speaker 3: Just focus on your collection, focus on what you're doing,

518
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:18,480
and be patient and you'll be able to buy some

519
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:19,759
things at affordable prices.

520
00:30:20,079 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 1: Yeah. Be be smart with your money and you're purchasing

521
00:30:23,319 --> 00:30:27,160
power and you'll get you'll mass a great collection in

522
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:31,359
your own way as well. All right, it's ongoing literally

523
00:30:31,559 --> 00:30:35,440
as as we speak. We're kind of competing against it,

524
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:39,599
if you will. But the NFL Draft, I am those

525
00:30:39,599 --> 00:30:43,079
that know me, I'm an NFL draft nerd. I follow

526
00:30:43,119 --> 00:30:47,160
college football. I'm a huge Steeler fan. That's a show

527
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:51,920
in itself and I watch, you know, Thursday and Friday

528
00:30:52,359 --> 00:30:55,799
is appointment TV for me. I'm in front of the TV,

529
00:30:56,519 --> 00:30:59,440
maybe with some pizza and wings, seeing what the Steelers do,

530
00:31:00,039 --> 00:31:03,680
seeing what some of the other teams do. You know,

531
00:31:04,039 --> 00:31:06,519
and when we equate the draft of the hobby, right,

532
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,920
those are those of us who partake in the football

533
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:15,240
aspect of the hobby. Know it's a heavy quarterback driven hobby.

534
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,880
This year's quarterback class, obviously with the number one pick,

535
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:23,079
Mendoza going to the Raiders. A great kid, a really

536
00:31:23,119 --> 00:31:27,519
great story. He had a great college career, especially his

537
00:31:27,599 --> 00:31:31,799
senior year ending in an undefeated title. I think he's

538
00:31:31,799 --> 00:31:35,000
going to be good in the NFL. How good we're

539
00:31:35,039 --> 00:31:38,759
going to see but after him, you know, when we

540
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:43,079
when we're talking about quarterbacks, guys, this is not a

541
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:48,440
strong quarterback class this year. Next year on paper looks

542
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,839
to be the better one. So we're seeing these, you know,

543
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:56,200
fifteen hundred dollars boxes of cops chrome with last year's

544
00:31:56,279 --> 00:31:59,920
rookie class, you know, the new one with the men,

545
00:32:00,799 --> 00:32:04,359
and that quarterback driven class is not going to be

546
00:32:05,279 --> 00:32:09,839
to me as strong. Kind of your thoughts here on

547
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:13,400
the draft, and we've seen some strides made with other

548
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:17,799
positions becoming more collectible. Receivers. Running backs are sort of

549
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,519
making a comeback when they were sort of a forgotten position,

550
00:32:22,319 --> 00:32:24,680
you know. Jeremiah Love was the third pick this year

551
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:28,920
by the Cardinals. Little high. We saw Genti go first

552
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,599
round last year to the Raiders. He had an up

553
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,039
and down rookie season. I think that was more because

554
00:32:34,039 --> 00:32:36,839
of the team he's on than anything else. On a

555
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,799
bad offensive line. I still am a big gent D fan.

556
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:44,039
Just weigh in here guys on this year's draft. Uh

557
00:32:44,359 --> 00:32:47,559
and and kind of correlated to the hobby.

558
00:32:47,359 --> 00:32:48,359
Speaker 3: You want to go Chris.

559
00:32:49,759 --> 00:32:50,079
Speaker 2: First.

560
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,519
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, I mean it was great to see for

561
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:57,480
the Doza, Miami guy and you know, a guy from

562
00:32:57,519 --> 00:33:01,160
Cuban originally, it's great to see him as you know,

563
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,559
being from Miami, parents her Cuban and really is the

564
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:09,400
first Cuban or Latin player to go first first pick

565
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,960
in the draft. So it was a big story here

566
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,160
in South Florida. You know, initially people thought he was

567
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,519
you know, he was a great player at Christopher Columbus

568
00:33:17,599 --> 00:33:20,119
High School, probably one of the best players in South

569
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:23,000
Florida at the time, and everyone was disappointed when he

570
00:33:23,039 --> 00:33:26,200
wasn't drafted by the University of Miami, especially when Mario

571
00:33:26,279 --> 00:33:31,200
Christobal was also a player at the Christopher Columbus High School,

572
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,799
the same school as Mendozo's from, and they let him go.

573
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:38,240
You know, he really kind of went unnoticed until he

574
00:33:38,279 --> 00:33:41,279
went to Indiana and you know, he just became became

575
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,480
a true star undefeated season. So it's great to see

576
00:33:44,559 --> 00:33:48,480
him in his success and he's a real humble, humble guy,

577
00:33:48,839 --> 00:33:52,680
godfaring guy, comes with a great family, and you know,

578
00:33:52,759 --> 00:33:55,880
he's a self made guy. He worked his ass off

579
00:33:56,039 --> 00:33:58,400
to get to where he is today and he earned

580
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,559
every single bit of it, you know. But as far

581
00:34:00,599 --> 00:34:02,920
as the other drafts, I mean, you know, I've seen

582
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:06,079
a lot of linemen, a lot of offensive linemen going,

583
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:10,480
you know, high very few skilled up like even wide

584
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,199
receivers and running backs. Very few of them have gone

585
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,400
in the first rounds. I mean, I've just noticed that

586
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,440
a lot of defensive players are going, and a lot

587
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,159
of these big, you know, six', five three hundred pound

588
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:25,280
guys as The dolphins picked as their first draft draft.

589
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,480
Pick SO i don't see a lot of players going this,

590
00:34:28,599 --> 00:34:32,039
year especially, quarterbacks like you, said Even Carson.

591
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:33,559
Speaker 1: Beck, yeah Who i'm a fan.

592
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:37,079
Speaker 3: Of maybe not the best, quarterback but still he wasn't

593
00:34:37,119 --> 00:34:39,000
drafted until late last.

594
00:34:39,119 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 1: Night, Yeah Ty. Simpson Ty simpson the second quarterback off the,

595
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:48,000
board thirteen in THE. Rams and Again i'm AN nfl.

596
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:48,840
Speaker 2: Nerd if you.

597
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:53,320
Speaker 1: Will the rumor there is that the THE gm snead

598
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:57,840
wanted him and McVeigh, didn't and THE gm won one

599
00:34:58,039 --> 00:35:01,519
making the. Pick so you, Know Matt stafford just won AN.

600
00:35:01,599 --> 00:35:04,400
MVP i know he's getting a little long in the,

601
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:08,400
tooth but he didn't, retire So simpson's gonna have to

602
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:13,239
learn from. Him you, know McVeigh still Likes Stetson, bennett

603
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,159
so now they're Bringing simpson into this. Mix and so

604
00:35:16,679 --> 00:35:20,280
if you watch mcveigh's press conference and read between the,

605
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:24,400
lines he wasn't really excited about the, pick you could

606
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,519
tell like it was A gm pick rather than a

607
00:35:27,559 --> 00:35:30,519
head coach. PICK i, mean he said all the right. Things,

608
00:35:30,559 --> 00:35:33,079
obviously you don't want to show up your OWN gm

609
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:37,159
or you, know besmirch your new draft pick In, Simpson

610
00:35:37,599 --> 00:35:41,159
but you could tell that, McVeigh you, KNOW i think

611
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,880
wanted to go in a different direction when the team

612
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,840
in your, division The, seahawks just won The Super, bowl

613
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:50,760
and your your first pick is at the very least

614
00:35:51,159 --> 00:35:54,440
at the start at backup. Quarterback you, KNOW i don't

615
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,320
think he was happy with. THAT i love those kinds of.

616
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:01,639
Stories but, Again i'm AN nfl. Nerds so you, know

617
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,880
the n THE nfl has made the draft an event

618
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:08,119
almost like on like The Super. Bowl, Right it's now

619
00:36:08,159 --> 00:36:11,320
going to be in a different city near the stadium every,

620
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,159
year and you, know In, PITTSBURGH i almost went to this,

621
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:17,639
thing be steel. Fan just couldn't make it work with

622
00:36:17,639 --> 00:36:20,400
with THINGS i had on the home. Front but three

623
00:36:20,519 --> 00:36:23,440
hundred and twenty thousand other people did, go, Guys and

624
00:36:23,519 --> 00:36:27,800
so this thing is a major. Event it obviously brings

625
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:31,440
money into whatever, city uh it's, in much like The

626
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,719
Super bowl would. Do and so whether you like THE

627
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:39,000
nfl or you, don't, right THE nfl is you, know

628
00:36:39,079 --> 00:36:43,400
speaking of, marketeering, right they've they've they're on the forefront

629
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:47,199
of the four major sports at making these major, events,

630
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,599
uh you know accessible to. People you, Know, uh the

631
00:36:50,639 --> 00:36:54,800
baseball draft is not like. That THE Nhl draft is

632
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,559
in an, arena but not on par with what we

633
00:36:57,639 --> 00:37:02,519
see in THE. Nfl and so THE nfl is knows

634
00:37:02,559 --> 00:37:06,000
how to market. Itself and Again i've never been to

635
00:37:06,039 --> 00:37:08,960
the draft now that it's a public, event BUT i

636
00:37:09,039 --> 00:37:12,480
always watch it ON. Tv and you, know it's. Tradition

637
00:37:12,639 --> 00:37:15,760
the first, night me and my son we watch it.

638
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:19,440
Together we order some pizza and, wings and we've done

639
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:22,000
that since he's been about twelve and he's twenty six,

640
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:25,039
now so it's kind of a family. Thing and my

641
00:37:25,079 --> 00:37:28,400
wife's a football, fans so she watched it as, well

642
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:32,199
and you, know the NFL's got doing it right when

643
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:35,079
it comes to. That but going, back this year's draft

644
00:37:35,079 --> 00:37:38,679
class hobby wise might be a little, lean and SO

645
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:44,440
tops better enjoy those fifteen dollars prices on this year's

646
00:37:44,519 --> 00:37:48,840
pro BECAUSE i don't know if the player that we

647
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:52,480
see in this draft will be able to drive, it you,

648
00:37:52,519 --> 00:37:53,599
know in subsequent.

649
00:37:53,679 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 3: Rules, well you know What top's gonna flash. There what

650
00:37:56,599 --> 00:37:59,760
they've already started with The tops now and you know

651
00:38:00,119 --> 00:38:03,280
you saw ON espn there they had every every pick

652
00:38:03,599 --> 00:38:07,239
signed their FIRST tops card and you see that one

653
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,360
there with The, mendoza and they did it right on

654
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,280
stage as soon as they were, picked and they talked

655
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,159
a little. Bit they went to the side and they

656
00:38:13,159 --> 00:38:16,000
had this lady had them sign their first, card almost

657
00:38:16,039 --> 00:38:20,000
like A mlb debut patch type. Card but it's A tops.

658
00:38:20,079 --> 00:38:22,800
Now they're already up for sale r now on the,

659
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,960
website and, UH i think it actually ends. Tomorrow so

660
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:27,679
if you're gonna buy, one and you're gonna go have

661
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,280
to get it by. Tomorrow and they've done this for

662
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:32,599
all of The top, picks and you, know of course

663
00:38:32,639 --> 00:38:34,920
you have parallels and all, that But the main hit

664
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,960
is the card that they, signed you, know their first

665
00:38:38,079 --> 00:38:41,360
auto kind of LIKE i, said the Major League debut patch.

666
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,480
Card it's it's THEIR nfl draft card and they had

667
00:38:44,519 --> 00:38:47,679
each one sign one card that will be the big

668
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:52,559
chase in This Tops now product that they just released.

669
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:56,039
Speaker 1: Yesterday that doesn't bother, Me, LIKE i think there's a

670
00:38:56,159 --> 00:38:58,599
place for. That Like i'm not probably gonna be able

671
00:38:58,679 --> 00:39:01,800
to afford it or buy, it BUT i think there's

672
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,960
a place for, that, right you, KNOW i think you,

673
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:08,280
KNOW i bash on. TOPS i gotta give flowers when they're,

674
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,960
due right the Major League debut patches that they started

675
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,639
For baseball or THE ud KNOWN, US i love that. Idea,

676
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:19,119
again unless you pull it out of a, Pack i'm

677
00:39:19,159 --> 00:39:21,199
not gonna be able to. Afford i'm not going to own. One,

678
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:26,119
well maybe a lesser, player but generally, speaking that's something

679
00:39:26,199 --> 00:39:29,199
you hope you hit when you're opening a, product and

680
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:30,760
if you have to, buy it's because you're gonna have

681
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,719
to pull out your. Checkbook BUT i love that right

682
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:37,119
now they're doing that in THE, nfl they're doing that

683
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:41,960
with their THEIR nba as, well and it's really a

684
00:39:42,039 --> 00:39:44,280
true one on one right that is the the patch

685
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,760
they wore on their. Debut and if that said player

686
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:51,800
right becomes A hall Of, famer multi Time All, star

687
00:39:53,079 --> 00:39:56,199
how cool of a piece of memorabilia is that right

688
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,920
to either own or even see maybe in you, know

689
00:40:00,159 --> 00:40:02,719
Like dick's bought the schemes and put it in there

690
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,559
like headquarters, store right where you can go see. IT

691
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:08,840
i don't have a problem with. That While i'm not

692
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,719
gonna be in the market to buy, ONE i don't

693
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:15,920
have to luck to pull. ONE i still get. IT

694
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,760
i like. It it's a piece of, history whether you

695
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,480
like it or. Not so kudos for that. Idea and they're,

696
00:40:22,519 --> 00:40:25,760
continuing AND i don't mind the signed thing because it's

697
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,920
similar to that debut. Patch. Right they're doing it on

698
00:40:29,119 --> 00:40:32,400
stage at the draft and you can. Watch you're watching

699
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,719
them do, it and it's just to, me, it's you,

700
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,000
know it's a cool piece of. History i'm a history.

701
00:40:38,039 --> 00:40:41,719
Guy so anytime you can get the hobby and history

702
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:45,079
and sort of meld them. Together chris And orlando in

703
00:40:45,159 --> 00:40:47,679
the chat, Room i'm not opposed to. That whether you,

704
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,679
know WHETHER i can afford it or not has nothing

705
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,320
to do with whether it's a good idea or. Not

706
00:40:53,639 --> 00:40:57,760
so you, KNOW i like. It uh but and you,

707
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:01,079
know going back To, mendoza he's an easy kid to root.

708
00:41:01,119 --> 00:41:04,119
For you don't have to be From, miami you don't

709
00:41:04,159 --> 00:41:08,480
have to be An Indiana hoogiers. Fan it's just like you, Said,

710
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:13,679
orlando it's just a humble kid who's worked, hard who you,

711
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,840
know anytime you see an, interview he's always quick to

712
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:20,840
give everyone else around him. Credit his, family his old,

713
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,920
line his receivers is running, back and he tries to

714
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:27,960
take very little for. Himself so while not being A raiders,

715
00:41:28,079 --> 00:41:32,920
FAN i definitely be you, know rooting For. Mendoza uh

716
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,920
and except when he plays The, steelers but even, THEN

717
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,480
i don't want to see anything bad. HAPPEN i just

718
00:41:39,599 --> 00:41:42,840
want The stealers have more points at the end of the.

719
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,679
Day and you, know we'll see what kind of pro

720
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:50,280
career he. HAS i Know brady is part ownership of The,

721
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,920
raiders and maybe he'll he'll work with him and in

722
00:41:54,119 --> 00:41:58,320
the you, know preseason and and and camps leading up

723
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,519
TO i don't know why you wouldn't if you own

724
00:42:01,599 --> 00:42:04,239
that team and you and then it's such a quarterback driven,

725
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:08,119
league so he might have some tutelage. There from a

726
00:42:08,639 --> 00:42:13,840
legend in his own. Right so uh, YEAH i think.

727
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:17,360
THAT i THINK i think that they're they're Hoping mendoza

728
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:21,480
wins the gig and and cousins sort of backup security

729
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:25,559
or like you it's a good point to play. Immediately that's,

730
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,960
yeah that's they. Might they might start out with. Cousins

731
00:42:29,159 --> 00:42:32,079
it might start out with. Cousins see how that, works

732
00:42:32,159 --> 00:42:35,519
and then before uh going To mendoza with with the

733
00:42:35,599 --> 00:42:39,000
philosophy is once you hand the keys Of, mendoza you

734
00:42:39,119 --> 00:42:41,440
can't you can't go back. Again that's that's.

735
00:42:41,559 --> 00:42:43,519
Speaker 3: It so, yeah i'd like to see, that you, know

736
00:42:43,639 --> 00:42:45,519
similar to what they Did, mahome but they didn't pay

737
00:42:45,559 --> 00:42:47,360
him right away and they gave him a chance to

738
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:50,320
kind of you, know slowly get into it and then you,

739
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:51,000
know he became a.

740
00:42:51,079 --> 00:42:55,760
Speaker 1: Superstar, yeah Guy tony, said he's still waiting for the

741
00:42:55,960 --> 00:43:00,159
jack patch ins. There that's Coming series Two serious Two.

742
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:05,119
Chrome you'll get your jackstrap patch not scratching step. Step

743
00:43:05,159 --> 00:43:07,880
put that in the top loader as soon as you pull, It,

744
00:43:08,039 --> 00:43:10,440
tony you, know just to keep keep the.

745
00:43:10,559 --> 00:43:15,119
Speaker 3: Freshness you'll get the laundry tag patch on that.

746
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:18,639
Speaker 1: One, yeah there you, go which we like getting, uh

747
00:43:19,039 --> 00:43:22,079
you know when it comes to, uh you, know uh

748
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:25,840
game used jersey and. Whatnot so all, right, GUYS i

749
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:27,360
don't want to spend a lot of time because we

750
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:31,239
spend a. Lot you. Know THE nba playoffs are. Ongoing

751
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:33,719
i'm not you, KNOW i just SAID i would have

752
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:36,719
much of AN nfl. Nerd i'm not a BIG nba,

753
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,519
Guy SO i don't want to come across uh as

754
00:43:39,679 --> 00:43:40,360
one Because i'm.

755
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 3: Not.

756
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:45,599
Speaker 1: Uh the playoff, Series detroit And orlando are tied at.

757
00:43:45,639 --> 00:43:50,159
One Oklahoma city has a two game league two nothing Over,

758
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:53,320
Phoenix atlanta and The. Knicks it's two to. One. Atlanta

759
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:58,119
minnesota has a two to one game advantage Over. Denver

760
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:03,719
cleveland two to one game advantage Over, Toronto San antonio

761
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:07,679
Without wemby as a two to one game advantage Over.

762
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:12,199
Portland boston's Leading philly two games to. One this one

763
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:16,480
surprises me with the injuries The lakers. Have they're three

764
00:44:16,519 --> 00:44:20,239
to zero Against. Houston houston looks like they're about to

765
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:24,840
be the first team unless they make some incredible, comeback you,

766
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:28,360
know they'll be the first team eliminated and The lakers

767
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:32,960
are gonna probably Get Don chicken And reeves back and you,

768
00:44:33,039 --> 00:44:36,519
KNOW i don't see them winning AN nba. Title Oklahoma

769
00:44:36,599 --> 00:44:40,480
city is the defending, champ But wemby's hurt For San,

770
00:44:40,519 --> 00:44:45,159
antonio AS i, mentioned and they're still leading that series right.

771
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:49,719
Now you, know THE. Nba you, know we just talked

772
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,360
about the THE nfl draft class this year being a

773
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:54,960
little bit on the weaker side of you, know especially

774
00:44:55,039 --> 00:44:58,920
on the offensive. PROSPECT i thought THE nba was sort of.

775
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,760
Downturning and and they had the rookie class they had

776
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:06,119
this year With Cooper, Flag Todd, Kin, nipple uh and.

777
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:08,800
OTHERS i think that's that bought them some more. Time

778
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:13,039
BUT i, think you, know if the future draft classes

779
00:45:13,079 --> 00:45:16,639
are not great for THE, nba you, know that can be.

780
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:20,320
Hurt i'm not AN nba. GUY i have. CARDS i

781
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,800
have more of it in my show inventory than MY

782
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:28,880
pc full, disclosure but just you, know just some thoughts

783
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:33,599
here on THE nba, playoffs the star power and and the.

784
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:35,119
HOBBY i don't know who wants to go.

785
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 3: First, WELL i mean we'll have To we'll have to

786
00:45:37,079 --> 00:45:39,199
kind of wait and see how it all comes. Out

787
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:42,159
And i'm really kind of worried a little bit About.

788
00:45:42,559 --> 00:45:46,000
Webby uh is really pretty. Much you, know, yeah you

789
00:45:46,079 --> 00:45:48,480
Got Cooper flag a, couple But webby is the guy

790
00:45:48,559 --> 00:45:50,679
when it's the. Basketball, meant his cards are the ones

791
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,760
that are the ones everybody's uh hunting. For and you,

792
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:57,400
know RECENTLY i saw A bless interview a guy that

793
00:45:57,760 --> 00:45:59,920
paid a million dollars fee, card and a lot of

794
00:46:00,079 --> 00:46:01,920
his cards are, selling you, know half a million dollars

795
00:46:02,039 --> 00:46:05,280
six hundred, Thousand so that's kind of a concern with

796
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:08,199
him getting injured. THERE i know it's just a, concussion

797
00:46:08,599 --> 00:46:11,840
but you got to remember he also had some blood

798
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:15,760
cloud issue. Before he's still, young you, know definitely he's

799
00:46:16,079 --> 00:46:19,480
the most talented player in THE. Nba but the, injury you,

800
00:46:19,559 --> 00:46:22,079
know he's just so tall and skinny that you, know

801
00:46:22,199 --> 00:46:25,440
it just worries. Me the people that are investing such

802
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:29,880
huge dollars Into webee, cards it's Pretty, uh it's pretty

803
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:33,079
scary IF i had half a million dollar to be honest.

804
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,039
Speaker 1: With, YEAH i THINK i think it's scary if you

805
00:46:35,119 --> 00:46:38,679
have a half a million dollar card of anyone that's still, playing,

806
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,800
right that's it's The babe Ruth. Less it's A babe

807
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:45,199
ruth Or ty cob Or Ownus. Wagner that's a risky.

808
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:49,440
Proposition it's risky there, too but a lot less, risky

809
00:46:49,519 --> 00:46:53,760
let's put it that. Way Or. Lando, Uh, CHRIS i

810
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:55,920
know you're you're you're A philly. GUY i don't know

811
00:46:56,039 --> 00:46:59,280
how much of AN Nba philly guy you, are but

812
00:46:59,559 --> 00:47:01,400
just if you want to weigh in.

813
00:47:01,559 --> 00:47:04,320
Speaker 2: Here And i'm kind of frustrated because they're playing The

814
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:09,360
celtics because The celts the the years the The sixers

815
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:12,159
had the number one pick in back to back, years

816
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:15,039
they Picked Ben simmons And Markel fultz who are no

817
00:47:15,199 --> 00:47:20,039
longer on the, team And boston had the number three

818
00:47:20,199 --> 00:47:25,320
pick those two years and Picked Jason tatum and who's

819
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:32,239
that other, Game jalen J, yeah and they're just carving

820
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:36,360
up The sixers all all throughout throughout this. Series but you,

821
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:39,800
Know sixer's got a good young team With, edgecomb who's

822
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:43,639
probably the third best rookie to come out of this. Class, Yeah,

823
00:47:44,159 --> 00:47:47,719
max he's a. Star and IF embd ever gets healthy,

824
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:49,960
AGAIN i mean hope and.

825
00:47:50,079 --> 00:47:53,639
Speaker 1: Pray WELL i think we're seeing in THE nba right

826
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:56,719
it's the young stars are like taking over as The

827
00:47:56,880 --> 00:48:01,360
lebron's age out and are on the, back very back

828
00:48:01,519 --> 00:48:05,239
nine of their. Careers, right the league needs these young guys,

829
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:09,840
healthy so, uh you know THAT'S i think that's. Important

830
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:13,440
they got some of that young and influx of. Talent but,

831
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:18,039
again a couple of bad draft, classes, right can when

832
00:48:18,079 --> 00:48:20,679
we speak of the, hobby that can that can hurt

833
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:24,360
the hobby. Side so we'll we'll see how that plays.

834
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:26,760
Out all, right, guys we're coming down home stretch and

835
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:30,119
this is a big topic that we want to talk. About,

836
00:48:30,199 --> 00:48:34,519
Right vintage probably the safest bet in my, opinion in

837
00:48:34,639 --> 00:48:39,880
the hobby remain. Strong, right we're seeing still more record Pricing.

838
00:48:40,599 --> 00:48:44,400
Orlando you were just in Strong, YEAH i.

839
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:46,280
Speaker 3: Know we don't have much, time BUT i do want

840
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:47,599
to make sure we can.

841
00:48:47,519 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 1: Go a, Little we can go a little over. Time,

842
00:48:49,519 --> 00:48:51,360
YEAH i don't want to be st short.

843
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 3: CHANGES i think it's a it's really a huge subject

844
00:48:56,079 --> 00:48:58,480
right now to talk. About we know the hobby's on fire,

845
00:48:58,599 --> 00:49:00,760
modern but let me tell, You vintage to, me from

846
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:03,400
WHAT i, seen is hotter than. Ever At, STRONGSVILLE i

847
00:49:03,519 --> 00:49:06,440
saw a lot more collectors And i've ever. Seen it

848
00:49:06,599 --> 00:49:09,480
was a huge. Show all of the dealers they had

849
00:49:09,519 --> 00:49:12,760
their biggest show, ever most of them even bigger than

850
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:15,360
The national and a lot of. People that was a

851
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:18,840
lot of. Money AND i saw some people THAT i

852
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:23,119
met that were collecting modern cards that now moved over

853
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:26,039
to vintage end of. It and a lot of big

854
00:49:26,159 --> 00:49:28,719
money is coming into. VINTAGE i don't know whether it's

855
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:31,119
coming from the big cooin or from the people that

856
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:34,559
invest in the, market but you KNOW i was seeing big.

857
00:49:34,679 --> 00:49:37,679
DOLLARS i, know fifty Two mannals being. Seld you, know

858
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,679
The Jackie rookies were being sold like if it was.

859
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:43,599
Water you, know, crazy the way that the money was

860
00:49:43,679 --> 00:49:46,960
flowing over. There and you, know the big thing now

861
00:49:47,119 --> 00:49:49,760
is become THE i appeal part of. It you, know

862
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:52,920
cards with good iopy are just going for a way

863
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:55,800
mean you almost can't even. Use you, KNOW i was

864
00:49:55,920 --> 00:50:00,440
watching cards Like Jackie leaf in a three selling for

865
00:50:00,599 --> 00:50:04,199
prices in a. Five you know it was nicely centered

866
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:05,960
or even had a GOOD i. Appeal and then you

867
00:50:06,039 --> 00:50:09,920
got The Mike baker. Stickers Mike baker was there and

868
00:50:10,119 --> 00:50:13,760
people were submitting cards there And i'm telling you those

869
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:16,159
cards as soon as they get that, sticker you, know

870
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:18,320
from What i've seen And greg From midlife To day

871
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:20,440
video on this, yesterday AND i think we should all

872
00:50:20,519 --> 00:50:22,639
go watch it if you're interested in. It but he

873
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:25,599
did an analysis and showing that the silver, stickers silver

874
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:29,880
Mic baker, stickers the prices were selling fifty percent overall

875
00:50:30,079 --> 00:50:32,519
for the, comps and if they get the gold, sticker

876
00:50:32,599 --> 00:50:36,199
they were selling at seventy five percent over. Comps, now

877
00:50:36,639 --> 00:50:38,920
you know it's it's the, Sticker BUT i think, overall

878
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:41,760
it's just THE i. Appeal you, KNOW i was trying

879
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:44,079
to buy some cards AND i know, that you, KNOW

880
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:47,079
i bought some nice stuff and, uh one of the

881
00:50:47,119 --> 00:50:49,599
cards THAT i, BOUGHT i paid over comps because of

882
00:50:49,639 --> 00:50:51,360
THE i. Appeal it didn't have a stick or, anything

883
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:54,800
but it was just a great looking. Card and you,

884
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:57,360
KNOW i think that is the trend right now that

885
00:50:57,559 --> 00:51:00,000
a lot of people are because of the modern high

886
00:51:00,159 --> 00:51:03,000
being so, expensive a lot of people are moving into.

887
00:51:03,079 --> 00:51:06,239
Vintage AND i literally saw, That AND i just saw

888
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:10,079
people paying. Overcomps anything that looked, decent that was nicey,

889
00:51:10,199 --> 00:51:13,079
centered you, know you're gonna pay over coops or even

890
00:51:13,159 --> 00:51:15,960
way over in many. Cases SO i think the, hobby

891
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:18,519
the vintage hobby is on fire from WHAT i.

892
00:51:18,639 --> 00:51:21,119
Speaker 1: Saw, yeah what are you? Guys what are your? Thoughts

893
00:51:21,199 --> 00:51:24,159
And chris here, TOO i Think i'm gonna have him

894
00:51:24,159 --> 00:51:28,320
on the show at some. Point i'm efforting. That But Mike,

895
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:31,639
baker what are your thoughts on? These, like you, know

896
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:35,880
his his stickers right to to say to talk about

897
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:39,519
the IOP o or what he evaluates the. Card ALMOST

898
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:42,519
i feel like that's what you're doing when you get

899
00:51:42,599 --> 00:51:47,559
the card graded, itself, Right so you're paying for grading.

900
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:51,599
TWICE i get, it you know, whatever you know they do.

901
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:54,159
This i'm not a coin, collector BUT i know they

902
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:56,880
do this on the coin side of the. Hobby it's

903
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:59,800
called the Green bean. Sticker so there's a group on

904
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:02,920
the coin collecting side that does and they did it

905
00:52:03,079 --> 00:52:05,519
quite frankly Before Mike baker did it on the card,

906
00:52:05,639 --> 00:52:08,559
Side SO i don't want to give chronological, order, right

907
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:11,920
they put this green. BEAN i don't know the company

908
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:15,519
that does, it but they kind of grade the grade.

909
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:20,000
Right and in, coins my buddy who collects, coins that's

910
00:52:20,039 --> 00:52:23,239
telling me it can bring twenty to fifty percent more

911
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:26,719
depending on the. Coin and now we're seeing that with

912
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:29,679
What Mike baker, does AND i just, like DO i

913
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:32,840
want to pay more because he puts a diamond sticker on?

914
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:34,840
It or DO i just want to buy the card

915
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:37,199
in the grade for WHATEVER i feel is like the

916
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:41,400
fair market. Price it's to, me it feels like a money,

917
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:44,880
grab but people are paying, it SO i guess maybe

918
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:46,559
it isn't you know WHAT i? Mean like where do

919
00:52:46,639 --> 00:52:47,920
you where do you fall in?

920
00:52:48,079 --> 00:52:52,079
Speaker 3: On it does sound like of me, grab but the

921
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:54,960
people are paying, it especially people that are newer to

922
00:52:55,039 --> 00:52:57,519
the hobby or especially newer to the vintage part of the.

923
00:52:57,599 --> 00:53:01,320
Hobby they have money to. Spend they're taking, that as you,

924
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:04,840
know kind of a second opinion type thing versus just you,

925
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:08,840
know them knowing vintage and Knowing BUT i really think

926
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:12,719
that the older collectors like me and the people that's

927
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:16,000
smart enough know AN I appeal card and this is

928
00:53:16,039 --> 00:53:18,840
an opportunity because you can get a GOOD I appeal

929
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:22,119
card right now that you, Know like this is my

930
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:24,199
pickup THAT i got AND i had to share, that

931
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:27,440
but it's a it's a, one but it's a beautiful.

932
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:30,639
One the thirty Three lugarrick the card and it's just

933
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:34,079
a it has THE i appeal for, me doesn't have the,

934
00:53:34,159 --> 00:53:37,480
sticker doesn't have anything on, it but it's a card

935
00:53:37,559 --> 00:53:40,920
that if you look at the, other well one this

936
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:44,480
really is way above the grade in my, Opinion so

937
00:53:44,599 --> 00:53:46,920
if you have a good, EYE i think for vintage,

938
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:49,760
guys this is a good opportunity to get a great

939
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:53,440
card and get it before it gets, STICKERED i think

940
00:53:53,559 --> 00:53:56,360
is the, key you, know because once, again great.

941
00:53:57,079 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 1: Great comment here From Sports girls. Seventeen we're getting away

942
00:54:00,079 --> 00:54:02,719
from the card. Itself people are looking at the grades

943
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:06,480
and stickers, first and there's some truth in, there, right

944
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:08,679
you know WHEN i go to international here in a

945
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:12,599
few months and that things sneaking up on us. Quick you,

946
00:54:12,679 --> 00:54:15,760
KNOW i have a, list AND i Know i've talked

947
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:19,599
about this, before probably five to seven vintage CARDS i

948
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:22,280
want for my, people And i'm looking for the card,

949
00:54:22,519 --> 00:54:27,559
first and obviously the grade's gonna you, know determine what

950
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:30,280
price it's gonna cost. Me AND i kind of go

951
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:34,360
in Knowing i'm looking for it maybe in this grade, range,

952
00:54:34,519 --> 00:54:39,440
Right But i'm looking for the card first and then

953
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:41,960
all that other. Stuff but they are, factors, Right we

954
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:46,679
obviously can't Discount they're they're important. Factor But i'm Not

955
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:49,639
i'm not a BIG i don't have any any of

956
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:53,440
MY pc vintage. STUFF i don't have Any Mike baker.

957
00:54:53,559 --> 00:54:56,480
Ones if you Will i'm not SAYING i never own,

958
00:54:56,559 --> 00:54:59,880
one But i'm not gonna pay an extreme of my

959
00:55:00,039 --> 00:55:02,440
out more just because of, that is What i'm. Saying

960
00:55:02,679 --> 00:55:04,599
but IF i picked up one in a trade or,

961
00:55:04,679 --> 00:55:07,280
SOMETHING i don't have a problem with. It BUT i

962
00:55:07,519 --> 00:55:09,960
just it's almost like if you if you pay for

963
00:55:10,079 --> 00:55:12,880
it's you're paying for grading. Twice but some people. Do,

964
00:55:13,119 --> 00:55:15,400
right people crack stuff out because they don't like the

965
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:17,960
grade and send it back. In they're paying for grading.

966
00:55:18,039 --> 00:55:22,920
Twice so obviously he's doing good, business so there's a

967
00:55:23,119 --> 00:55:26,679
market for. It, Right he's traveling to these, shows he's

968
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:31,239
at The, national so business must be. GOOD i KNOW tj,

969
00:55:31,519 --> 00:55:34,239
mentioned you know he may not be the most honest

970
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:38,199
guy in the. World that's a show in. Itself i'm

971
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:40,920
just not a fan of. That, Again i'm not SAYING

972
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:44,480
i never own a card with the diamond sticker on.

973
00:55:44,679 --> 00:55:47,559
IT i just not going for, me speaking for only,

974
00:55:47,639 --> 00:55:52,719
Myself i'm not going to pay an extreme amount more for.

975
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:55,639
THAT i don't need. It it's not a prerequisite for.

976
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:59,079
ME i don't ever EVEN i would never even probably

977
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:03,320
submit car to him to pay for that. SERVICE i

978
00:56:03,519 --> 00:56:07,880
just but enough people are where he's doing good, Business

979
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:11,280
chris way in. Here you know you collect vintage as,

980
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:14,679
well even with the nineties stuff, now which is it's

981
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:18,920
not it's, not it's, not but it's. Not you, know

982
00:56:19,119 --> 00:56:21,599
you know Where i'm, Going but you, know you know

983
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:24,719
the vintage, market whether you collect it or. Not kind

984
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:26,639
of way in, here as we come down the home

985
00:56:26,679 --> 00:56:30,760
stretch when it pertains to where the vintage market. Is

986
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:34,039
if you want to give your thoughts on, This Mike, Baker,

987
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:35,039
well first of.

988
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:39,400
Speaker 2: ALL i collect, cards not. Numbers, Steps so that's just

989
00:56:39,599 --> 00:56:44,239
me as an. ECONOMIST i want to say that we're

990
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:49,599
kind of in a period of economic, uncertainty and when that,

991
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:54,159
happens a lot of people flock to real asset things

992
00:56:54,320 --> 00:57:00,119
like precious, metals real, estate and, yes even. Collectibles SO

993
00:57:00,639 --> 00:57:03,000
i think a lot of people are getting into vintage

994
00:57:03,199 --> 00:57:06,360
just as a storage of value for, now just to

995
00:57:07,159 --> 00:57:10,599
ride it out for a few. Years we'll see how

996
00:57:10,679 --> 00:57:14,440
long this this boom in vintage cards.

997
00:57:14,559 --> 00:57:18,519
Speaker 1: Lasts, Yeah and the other Thing i've heard, here and

998
00:57:18,639 --> 00:57:22,119
it's a good point right From Sports Card Market, review

999
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:24,679
why don't they put the sticker on the back of

1000
00:57:24,719 --> 00:57:27,239
the slab or the bottom back corner right sticker on

1001
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:30,639
the front looks. Bad and AGAIN i talked about the

1002
00:57:30,719 --> 00:57:33,440
green bean sticker on the coin, hobby they put it

1003
00:57:33,519 --> 00:57:35,639
on the front. TOO i think they put it on the.

1004
00:57:35,719 --> 00:57:39,760
FRONT i don't disagree with that, point BUT i MEAN

1005
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:41,840
i think they they you, know they put it on

1006
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:44,800
the front because they feel whether you agree with it or,

1007
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:48,639
not like me or someone, else, right that enhances the.

1008
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:51,119
Value so you want that if you're a, seller and

1009
00:57:51,199 --> 00:57:53,679
you won't have that in your, showcase, right you want

1010
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:56,880
that sticker to be. Prevalent if it's on the, back

1011
00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:59,239
you may not see. It now you can tell, someone,

1012
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:03,440
yeah That yogi bearer has A nba sticker on the. Back,

1013
00:58:03,639 --> 00:58:06,960
Right but if it's not on the front and you

1014
00:58:07,079 --> 00:58:10,400
price it, accordingly your card might look over. Priced some

1015
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:14,280
are you it's overpriced anyway if you're charging extra for

1016
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:18,639
the THE nba sticker on. It so that's why it's

1017
00:58:18,679 --> 00:58:21,320
on the, front, Right it's it's to get more money

1018
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:25,599
out of that, card the truth be. Told but does

1019
00:58:25,679 --> 00:58:27,559
it look does it change the look at the? Card?

1020
00:58:27,639 --> 00:58:32,079
Yeah but anyone that is either buying that, card they

1021
00:58:32,199 --> 00:58:34,960
want it on the front because they probably reselling it

1022
00:58:35,039 --> 00:58:37,360
and they want to get the most bang for their.

1023
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:41,360
Dollar if it's a in YOUR pc, collection you probably

1024
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:45,440
want it more on the backside of the. Card but you, know,

1025
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:48,880
uh to, me it's just it's just another way that

1026
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:52,320
someone can make money for themselves in the. Hobby, again

1027
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:55,760
this Is. America the you, know the demand is there

1028
00:58:55,920 --> 00:59:00,760
enough people are are Using Mike baker's, Service SO i

1029
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:04,480
guess the proofs in that. Putting for, ME i don't need.

1030
00:59:04,559 --> 00:59:07,760
It it's not a. PREREQUISITE i don't own any cards

1031
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:11,519
with that. Sticker i'm not opposed to. It IF i

1032
00:59:11,639 --> 00:59:14,599
bought a card and it didn't cost me really more

1033
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:17,440
and that sticker was, there then so be. It or

1034
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:20,679
IF i made a trade and it was for a

1035
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:23,039
card with AN nba, Sticker i'll get. It i'm not

1036
00:59:23,119 --> 00:59:26,440
opposed to, it BUT i DON'T i can live without

1037
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:29,440
it just the. Same so that's kind of WHERE i weigh.

1038
00:59:29,519 --> 00:59:32,800
In i'm effort to get him on the. Show he's

1039
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:36,679
a hard guy to pin, down But i'll ask him

1040
00:59:36,679 --> 00:59:39,199
some of those tough. QUESTIONS i mean that will be you.

1041
00:59:39,239 --> 00:59:41,920
Know one of the QUESTIONS i, asked, like why should

1042
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:46,519
your opinion other than being a former, greater why is

1043
00:59:46,599 --> 00:59:50,320
your worth as much as it seems like it is. Right,

1044
00:59:50,559 --> 00:59:54,719
so you, KNOW i feel like, Me, orlando you, Know

1045
00:59:55,119 --> 00:59:58,320
chris and many of you out there can look at

1046
00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:00,920
a card and, say, man that's a you, know that's

1047
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:03,920
a really nice looking three or. FOUR i think we've

1048
01:00:04,039 --> 01:00:07,000
done most people have done this long enough they can

1049
01:00:07,079 --> 01:00:11,280
kind of make those assessments. Themselves we don't have stickers per,

1050
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:14,440
se but we can still conversate about it and you,

1051
01:00:14,559 --> 01:00:18,639
know talk about it like My Jackie rookie and My Aaron.

1052
01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:21,239
Rookie ANYONE i show it to. You it doesn't have

1053
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:24,960
A Mike baker, sticker but they're, like that's. Undergraded, Man

1054
01:00:25,039 --> 01:00:28,360
that's THAT i appeal on both of those. Cards Like

1055
01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:31,800
i've even had people, say you ever thought about re subbing.

1056
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:35,039
It i've thought about. It i'm probably not going to do,

1057
01:00:35,239 --> 01:00:37,840
It but that's WHAT i appeal is those kinds of.

1058
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:40,960
Conversations AND i, think you, KNOW i think we're all

1059
01:00:41,159 --> 01:00:46,039
capable of having them if we're experienced enough in the, hobby,

1060
01:00:46,159 --> 01:00:48,599
right you, know if you look at enough, cards you,

1061
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:51,760
know like you can put two four's next to each

1062
01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:54,639
other and one may look just a lot a lot

1063
01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:57,840
better than the, other and that's just that's just how it.

1064
01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:00,440
Speaker 3: Works, right that's a great, point you, know if you

1065
01:01:00,639 --> 01:01:03,280
if you, know you, Know but, YEAH i think the

1066
01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:07,360
sticker is sometimes more kind of for newer collectors and

1067
01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:10,159
in almost like a status symbol saying look WHAT i

1068
01:01:10,239 --> 01:01:13,400
got with a sticker and, stuff you, know versus looking

1069
01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:16,239
at the actual card and and getting a card that

1070
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:19,239
looks you, know. Undergraded you, know that's WHAT i look.

1071
01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:22,400
Speaker 1: For, Yeah and and, listen you, know give credit with

1072
01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:24,280
whether you like him or you, don't or you're a

1073
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:27,159
fan of the service or. Not he's marketed and he's doing,

1074
01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:29,559
well like you got to GIVE i got to give

1075
01:01:29,679 --> 01:01:32,440
that sort of. Credit, well it may not be a

1076
01:01:32,559 --> 01:01:36,840
SERVICE i use enough other people believe in, it, uh you,

1077
01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:40,360
know so it's just not my. Bag and, AGAIN i

1078
01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:42,800
HOPE i can get him on Because i'm going to

1079
01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:45,719
be respectful and use. Tech But I've i've definitely got

1080
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:49,320
some pointed. Questions i'd like to hear how he you,

1081
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:52,480
know answers it and his kind of takes on. It

1082
01:01:52,719 --> 01:01:55,840
so and again that's the beauty of, it All, right

1083
01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:59,440
we all have, opinion right when we're buying a vintage, Car,

1084
01:01:59,599 --> 01:02:01,440
well we're any CARD i don't even want to make it.

1085
01:02:01,719 --> 01:02:05,119
Justment but when we're buying any, card, right our opinion

1086
01:02:05,239 --> 01:02:08,599
is what whether we pull out our wallet or not

1087
01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:12,320
and make the purchase, right it's it's, hope and that's

1088
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:16,199
the way it should, be should. Be, uh, yeah this

1089
01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:20,239
is my new service fill In, oklahoma says THE Jna

1090
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:24,320
John Newman. AUTHENTICATION i don't have a, sticker BUT i

1091
01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:27,280
do a. Value you, know we all evaluate if we're

1092
01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:30,480
about to make a, purchase you, know whether or not

1093
01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:34,199
that card passes the muster for the price we're gonna.

1094
01:02:34,239 --> 01:02:35,920
Pay and that's how it should.

1095
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:36,039
Speaker 3: Be.

1096
01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:39,599
Speaker 1: Right it's your, money it's your, wallet it's your. Account

1097
01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:44,360
you should be able, to, uh you, know make that

1098
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:47,480
decision and there's nothing wrong with. You like If i'm

1099
01:02:47,519 --> 01:02:51,519
at The national or any show right In orlando's there

1100
01:02:51,679 --> 01:02:54,199
Or chris is there and they're, Nearby, like, hey what

1101
01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:56,280
do you think we've all done? That? Right, hey what

1102
01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:58,440
are you thinking thinking about buying? This what do you?

1103
01:02:58,559 --> 01:03:01,239
Think it's always nice to? Get it's sort of a second,

1104
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:04,079
opinion but those ones are. Free you, know there's a

1105
01:03:04,199 --> 01:03:07,199
difference between a free second opinion and one that might

1106
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:10,639
cost you a forty to fifty. Bucks so you, know

1107
01:03:10,840 --> 01:03:13,599
for some they don't have a you, Know i'd rather

1108
01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:16,960
just ask a hobby friend, like, hey you think this

1109
01:03:17,159 --> 01:03:20,400
is a decent. Deal i'm leaning that way to either

1110
01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:22,760
talk me off the ledge or tell me to buy

1111
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:26,000
it real, quick you know, So and it's not wrong with, that,

1112
01:03:26,199 --> 01:03:31,159
Right it's the fraternity of the. Hobby it's, fun you.

1113
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:34,440
Know And i've had people, Say, JOHN i think i'd hold,

1114
01:03:34,519 --> 01:03:38,239
off and what's my next? Question, okay why what's the?

1115
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:40,800
Reason why do you say? That and generally they have

1116
01:03:40,920 --> 01:03:43,400
a good. Reason and now when it's up to me

1117
01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:47,599
WHETHER i take their advice or pull the trigger, anyway

1118
01:03:47,719 --> 01:03:50,039
right at the end of the, day it's still your.

1119
01:03:50,119 --> 01:03:53,760
Decision sometimes it's nice to get a second. Opinion so

1120
01:03:54,519 --> 01:03:56,639
we went a little over, time BUT i didn't want

1121
01:03:56,719 --> 01:04:01,079
to short change this. Topic AND i appeal. Vintage you.

1122
01:04:01,159 --> 01:04:04,000
Know we talked about how strong The martyn is. Doing

1123
01:04:04,119 --> 01:04:07,199
the vintage is right, there just the, same and SO,

1124
01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:10,960
i you, know And orlando just getting back basically from.

1125
01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:14,480
STRONGVIL i wanted to touch on that as. Well so

1126
01:04:15,039 --> 01:04:19,960
whatever you, collect, right modern vintage both again you could you,

1127
01:04:20,039 --> 01:04:22,440
know it's LIKE i say with my, mantras, right you're

1128
01:04:22,519 --> 01:04:25,440
THE ceo of your. Hobby so what you want to,

1129
01:04:25,519 --> 01:04:28,360
buy what you don't want to, buy what you want

1130
01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:30,519
to partake, in what you don't want to partake. In

1131
01:04:31,039 --> 01:04:34,039
at the end of the, day that's that's the beauty

1132
01:04:34,119 --> 01:04:37,480
of it as you get to. Decide, So, Orlando, chris

1133
01:04:38,199 --> 01:04:42,079
thank you for for. Me i'm headed to about an

1134
01:04:42,119 --> 01:04:45,159
hour and twenty minutes From. Cooperstown i'm meeting a friend

1135
01:04:45,239 --> 01:04:48,920
there today on a Rainy New york, Day i'll be

1136
01:04:49,039 --> 01:04:52,199
headed To. COOPERSTOWN i haven't been there in a couple

1137
01:04:52,239 --> 01:04:56,400
of years. Now so my Friend brad from From georgia

1138
01:04:56,719 --> 01:04:59,519
is In cooperstown and, say, hey come out here and

1139
01:04:59,599 --> 01:05:02,840
hang out with. Me so that's Where i'm. Headed any

1140
01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:06,159
big plans for the, Weekend Orlando, Chris, no not.

1141
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:09,880
Speaker 2: Much just recovering from my recent arm.

1142
01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:13,920
Speaker 1: Surgery, yeah, Yeah chris. Had chris had. Surgery we WISH

1143
01:05:14,239 --> 01:05:18,480
i THINK i speak for, many wishing you speedy recovery

1144
01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:22,760
and healthy, recovery you, know with an arm and. Shoulder

1145
01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:27,119
as a former athlete, myself ACTUALLY i still play competitive, softball.

1146
01:05:27,239 --> 01:05:31,800
Right you, know sometimes you don't realize the importance of

1147
01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:35,760
something until you lose the use of. It So we're

1148
01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:39,239
wishing you uh speedy recovery and to get back as

1149
01:05:39,280 --> 01:05:42,599
close to one hundred percent uh as you. Can, orlando

1150
01:05:43,119 --> 01:05:46,639
good to see you as always doing well AND i

1151
01:05:46,719 --> 01:05:49,559
gotta Get speaking of strong, ago everyone always asked, me

1152
01:05:49,679 --> 01:05:51,360
like you got to get. HERE i haven't never been.

1153
01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:52,960
Speaker 3: Yet you.

1154
01:05:53,039 --> 01:05:55,119
Speaker 1: Know for, me it's it's always so close to The

1155
01:05:55,239 --> 01:05:58,119
national that, LIKE i don't know if it's in the

1156
01:05:58,199 --> 01:06:00,639
budget to do. Both so IF i, ever IF i

1157
01:06:00,719 --> 01:06:04,320
Think orlando CRIF i ever take a national year off

1158
01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:07,320
WHERE i Know i'm not going to The, national then

1159
01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:09,519
there might be SOMETHWHERE i can try to work that

1160
01:06:09,719 --> 01:06:12,679
in rather because it is, drivable it's a five, HOURS

1161
01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:14,960
i can drive. It it's just THAT i don't want

1162
01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:17,440
to go and not get. Anything And orlando kind of

1163
01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:20,559
scared me with what he. Said everything's kind of going

1164
01:06:20,719 --> 01:06:24,360
for and more so like you, know but but there

1165
01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:26,639
are always, deals, Right there always deals to be, had

1166
01:06:26,920 --> 01:06:30,360
even in a really bull and strong, market there's always

1167
01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:35,039
a deals. Had so all, right, guys thanks as, always

1168
01:06:35,199 --> 01:06:38,840
and we'll see you next week chat. ROOM i say

1169
01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:40,639
it all the Time i'm, on but it's not lip.

1170
01:06:40,719 --> 01:06:44,119
Service we appreciate. You you could be somewhere else and not,

1171
01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:47,000
here and you're, Here and even if you're listening to

1172
01:06:47,199 --> 01:06:50,280
us after the fact on an audio, platform you're doing

1173
01:06:50,360 --> 01:06:53,079
the same. Right you're donating your time to the, show

1174
01:06:53,599 --> 01:06:57,400
and from all of us here At, hobbyhighline we appreciate

1175
01:06:57,519 --> 01:07:01,079
take care of, everybody have a great. Weekend thanks, guys

1176
01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:10,639
thank you for listening to this episode Of Hobby. Hotline

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01:07:10,800 --> 01:07:13,800
just want to remind everyone we are a live show

1178
01:07:14,559 --> 01:07:19,239
Every saturday, morning eleven am eastern eight Am pacific on

1179
01:07:19,400 --> 01:07:24,119
the Four collectors channel on. YouTube that's the number, four

1180
01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:28,719
the Word collector's channel on. YouTube we hope to see

1181
01:07:28,840 --> 01:07:31,800
many of you live on a Future. Saturday we have

1182
01:07:31,880 --> 01:07:35,760
a great interactive chat room and we always provide a

1183
01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:37,800
link for anyone that wants to come on the show

1184
01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:41,320
and chop it up with. Us so that's a. Reminder Every,

1185
01:07:41,400 --> 01:07:47,119
saturday eleven am eastern eight Am, pacific only Four collectors

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01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:50,719
channel on. YouTube hope to see you on the. Show