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<v Speaker 2>All right, four o'clock here on a beautiful Wednesday afternoon.

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<v Speaker 2>three eight ninety seventy three. All right, So, uh, this

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<v Speaker 2>is uh, this is something that just kind of distracted

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<v Speaker 2>me a little bit during the break because I just

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<v Speaker 2>assume by now, in twenty twenty five, everybody who you know,

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<v Speaker 2>college football stadiums across the country, like everybody can can

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<v Speaker 2>buy beer. Like, how are you not selling booze in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty five, I guess Kentucky? Are they? What three

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<v Speaker 2>seasons are so into it? Maybe it's actually less than that,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure, but like we can't relate like I saw.

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<v Speaker 2>And the reason I'm bringing this up is because Notre

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<v Speaker 2>Dame will be selling beer for the first time this

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<v Speaker 2>fall at basketball, football, and hockey games. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they they're they're different, right, Like they are really in

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<v Speaker 2>their own on their own, in their own planet when

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<v Speaker 2>you think about it. And that doesn't mean like they're

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<v Speaker 2>so much better than everybody else, but like they're the

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<v Speaker 2>only legitimate program that has they're a national team, like

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<v Speaker 2>they are, they're a national team. They have an NBC

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<v Speaker 2>deal that is lucrative. They don't need television revenue from

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<v Speaker 2>a conference grant of rights because they're a national brand

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<v Speaker 2>and NBC pays them big bucks. So you know, they

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<v Speaker 2>could do their own thing and not really conformed up.

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<v Speaker 2>So maybe it's not a big shot that they're one

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<v Speaker 2>of the last ones, seemingly to uh to allow fans

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<v Speaker 2>to enjoy beer at games. But then again, like I'm

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<v Speaker 2>Catholic myself. Catholics love to get hammered on some beer

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<v Speaker 2>and just put them away. You've ever been at church picnic,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, come on now, So I'm like part of

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<v Speaker 2>me says Notre Dame would have been doing it before anybody,

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<v Speaker 2>because you know the Catholic stuff. And I don't mean

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<v Speaker 2>you have to be a you know, big drinker to

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<v Speaker 2>be a Catholic. I love the Catholic I mean, I know,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I just as I got older and learned

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<v Speaker 2>like different religions, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Was, I was.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm born and raised Catholics, So it's all I knew

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<v Speaker 2>when I thought of church, and then I went to

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<v Speaker 2>church with some friends and then realized, of course there

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<v Speaker 2>are different religions. I mean, I even at a young age,

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<v Speaker 2>I thought, you know, I think a lot of these

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<v Speaker 2>other places they would be probably pretty pretty ant high drinking.

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<v Speaker 2>But man, I've never seen more beer being drank than

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<v Speaker 2>when I go to my Saint Rita picnic as a kid,

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<v Speaker 2>like you just you pick up on those things. But

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<v Speaker 2>a little cake walk, but another thing for little like

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<v Speaker 2>we've been doing it. I mean, this is child's play.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean we've been getting We've been getting hammered at

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<v Speaker 2>games at old Cardinals Stadium, at Freedom Hall, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>before anybody else, I mean, before it was cool, we

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<v Speaker 2>were you know, I shouldn't say we're all getting hammered,

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<v Speaker 2>but you all know what I mean. The best atmospheres

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<v Speaker 2>ever for Louisville Athletics that I know of are for football.

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<v Speaker 2>It's whenever it's it's a little bit late at night

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<v Speaker 2>and there's a lot of people there, and the drinks

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<v Speaker 2>have been flowing. You know, there's a reason why atmospheres.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not just because of you know, nighttime and daylight difference.

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<v Speaker 2>If you got to kick off at seven thirty and

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<v Speaker 2>a kick off at noon, by the time we get

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<v Speaker 2>to kick off at seven thirty, a lot of alcoholic

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<v Speaker 2>beverages have been thrown down the neck among many in

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<v Speaker 2>the in the green lot purple lot.

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<v Speaker 3>Beer at the spring game. Were they selling alcohol then?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't think I mean, I mean, well, they

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<v Speaker 2>sold beer at like Chris Max's introductory press conference, at

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<v Speaker 2>the at the you know, at Freedom or at the

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<v Speaker 2>Center in like the ballroom area, like much like that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's just what we do, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>And we've never been ashamed of it, and I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>But it was like it became sort of a thing

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<v Speaker 2>where conferences, that's what it was. It was kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like the SEC I guess not that long ago. They

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<v Speaker 2>are the ones who said you can now sell booze

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<v Speaker 2>if you want, like it'll be a school by school decision.

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<v Speaker 2>The conference is now no longer going to restrict you

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<v Speaker 2>for being able to do it. So anyways, Notre Dame

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<v Speaker 2>you can now you can now buy booze there. And

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<v Speaker 2>I hate to sound like I'm some you know, drunk

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<v Speaker 2>that is so dependent upon alcohol because I don't wake

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<v Speaker 2>up and hit the bottle every day, but I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>afraid to say that if I was going to be

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<v Speaker 2>going to a game and I was like kind of

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<v Speaker 2>on the fence about going, if I knew that I

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<v Speaker 2>could not buy a beer, that would make my decision

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit easier to not go. And again, I

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<v Speaker 2>know it sounds like I got to be hammered to

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<v Speaker 2>watch football or basketball. That's not what I mean, but

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<v Speaker 2>like it's a part of the experience. It's and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's awesome. But now people probably think I'm some

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<v Speaker 2>raging alcoholic.

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<v Speaker 3>Have you ever been up to Notre Dame proper?

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<v Speaker 2>So I've been to Notre Dame, but not for football,

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<v Speaker 2>only for basketball, which is kind of weird. Most people

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<v Speaker 2>make it a bucket list kind of trip for football.

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<v Speaker 3>And is it the same thing. Do they not sell

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<v Speaker 3>beer at the basketball game either? Or alcohol at the

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<v Speaker 3>basketball games.

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<v Speaker 2>Or until you just asked me if I've ever been.

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<v Speaker 2>I now remember being at the Joy Center with my dad.

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<v Speaker 2>We went to the game, and I remember we left

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<v Speaker 2>one of those campus pubs, really cool place that was

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<v Speaker 2>just a quick walk from from from there to the

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<v Speaker 2>to the arena the Joy Center, and it was like,

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<v Speaker 2>talk about a buzzkill. I mean, we were, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a few beers deep walking over get in there, and

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<v Speaker 2>like we walked around the whole place and it's not

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<v Speaker 2>it's not a huge arena, although it's very nice, but

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<v Speaker 2>we walked. We just did the lap twice, like surely

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<v Speaker 2>there's got to be a beer man around here somewhere,

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<v Speaker 2>and then we realized, oh, yeah, you they don't. They

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<v Speaker 2>don't sell it here, and I you know, and then

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<v Speaker 2>I that down and watched Mike Pogessee get, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>in Louisville, get killed by Notre Dame. So you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it was, uh, it was. I mean, I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>it should have been a requirement. Like Doctor's word would

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<v Speaker 2>advise you, if you're gonna watch the mess that is

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<v Speaker 2>the Pogee season and the Kenny Payne seasons, then you

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<v Speaker 2>need then you know, you need to make sure you're

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<v Speaker 2>medicated on some booze, because it's gonna be tough to

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<v Speaker 2>take without. You're gonna need to be, you know, putting

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<v Speaker 2>some sauce away. All Right, So some of you strongly

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<v Speaker 2>disagree with me about the case and prior stuff, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's fine. We can disagree. And it's not about should

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<v Speaker 2>he come back, do we need him back, do we

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<v Speaker 2>want him or nate a mint. It's just that I

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying again, maybe you miss maybe you misinterpreted

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<v Speaker 2>what I said, But I don't think that Cason Pryor

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<v Speaker 2>owes us anything as far as like a statement. I

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<v Speaker 2>just think there is a difference in him and James

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<v Speaker 2>him along. To me, he and Jamon are different than

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<v Speaker 2>James Scott and ken I Rus. I'm not even talking

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<v Speaker 2>about different as far as one player's good, one player's great.

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<v Speaker 2>I just mean that their situations are vastly different. And

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<v Speaker 2>if Casen doesn't say a word but he comes back

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<v Speaker 2>to play, great, he didn't do anything wrong. I just

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<v Speaker 2>think that for me, until he says something, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>assuming he's gone. I'm assuming he's back. But I just

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<v Speaker 2>think it would be a surprise to me if if

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<v Speaker 2>there's nothing said, and he's just he's just on the team.

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<v Speaker 2>And if that's the case, cool and he does again.

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<v Speaker 2>So again, maybe maybe I did not put it out

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<v Speaker 2>there quite like I wanted to. He doesn't have to

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<v Speaker 2>do anything. I just think that fans that are kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like waiting to see him post something on Instagram

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<v Speaker 2>or Twitter, like, I understand why they're doing that. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>kind of doing the same thing. But it's not because

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the more days that pass, the more I'm

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<v Speaker 2>thinking that he's going to leave. It's just you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you now in this new world. Not the players aren't

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<v Speaker 2>required to do it, but I think even they know.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, coaches probably tell them like, hey, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I know you're coming back. We had a good talk

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<v Speaker 2>about it. We're on the same page. But go ahead

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<v Speaker 2>and let go ahead and work with our creative team,

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<v Speaker 2>our creative department, because they're going to put together a

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<v Speaker 2>really cool cinematic video that announces that you're back, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's gonna be a big It's gonna be a big

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<v Speaker 2>celebration because you know, we love to have you back,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, Babo, two five seventy nine hundred is the number.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll get back to the text line just a moment,

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<v Speaker 2>but let's bring in a caller. Let's welcome in Steve. Steve,

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<v Speaker 2>you're on Sports Talk seven ninety How are.

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<v Speaker 4>You, hey?

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<v Speaker 5>How you doing?

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<v Speaker 1>Nick?

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<v Speaker 2>Good to hear from you, Hey.

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<v Speaker 5>I got to go to Notre Dame Navy game one year.

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<v Speaker 5>My wife, when she was working and still alive, she

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<v Speaker 5>did a huge compensation or pay package for Notre Dame

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<v Speaker 5>and they invited us up there.

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<v Speaker 2>Nice.

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<v Speaker 5>The drinking that took place in the parking lot was

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<v Speaker 5>was pretty substantial. I had to be on my best behavior.

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<v Speaker 5>I could only have one or two beers, but I

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<v Speaker 5>think having the Jets roll over. It was Charlie Weiss's

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<v Speaker 5>last year, by the way, that's that's the year that

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<v Speaker 5>took place. But then the you know, the Thunderbirds came

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<v Speaker 5>over and it was it was pretty cool experience. Middle

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<v Speaker 5>of November, about seventy degrees. It was a it was

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<v Speaker 5>a great day.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me ask you this. Steve does the tailgating where

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<v Speaker 2>there is a lot of alcohol being consumed like most

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<v Speaker 2>college stadiums across the country. I just envisioned tailgating at

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<v Speaker 2>Notre Dame seeming like I am at a church picnic,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's in the fall, right, yes.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, yeah, exactly, yeah, exactly that. That's the way it was.

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<v Speaker 5>And it's funny when you enter the stadium you keep

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<v Speaker 5>hearing these announcements please refrain from cursing and you know,

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<v Speaker 5>making vulgar remarks or something like that. It was, it

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<v Speaker 5>was sort of, it was sort of funny so that

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<v Speaker 5>you know, the crowd was pretty well behaved. And that's

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<v Speaker 5>the year there was a for Navy. They had this

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<v Speaker 5>little running back from Western Kentucky who absolutely ran decimated

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<v Speaker 5>Notre Dame. He gained over two hundred yards that day.

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<v Speaker 5>And I don't remember his name, but it was, it was.

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<v Speaker 5>It was kind of and I think that was the

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<v Speaker 2>I always forget Charlie Weiss was even there. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it was not a successful stint.

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<v Speaker 5>Like I remember, some of the fans sitting around us

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<v Speaker 5>I think they thought he was a little bit too

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<v Speaker 5>arrogant or something. Maybe I'm not sure, but he he

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, didn't work out, Steve. I appreciate the call man.

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<v Speaker 2>Always great to hear from you. All right, So one

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<v Speaker 2>thing that we did discuss the in the three o'clock

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<v Speaker 2>hour that I want to reset here really quickly, is

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<v Speaker 2>that losing players when you are an elite program, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>there's always going to be some level of surprise. And look,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a Louisville fan. I think you all know that.

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<v Speaker 2>But if Louisville is going to be maybe not now

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<v Speaker 2>because things are so much different. But just let's just

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<v Speaker 2>back up to the recruiting era where that's how everybody

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<v Speaker 2>built the roster. You didn't you didn't have transfers unless

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<v Speaker 2>it was an exception with like a grad guy or

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<v Speaker 2>somebody sitting out. You know, Louisville recruited well. But I

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<v Speaker 2>remember in two thousand and twenty, I think it was

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Chris Mack had already put together his twenty

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen class, which that class was, believe it or not,

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<v Speaker 2>ranked really high, and gosh, who was the best player

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<v Speaker 2>of that group had to be David Johnson who did

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<v Speaker 2>end up getting drafted. But other than that, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Jalen Withers, Sam Williamson, who else, who else was in

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<v Speaker 2>that group, Quinn Slaznski who actually brought the Irish Hulk, Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>Aidan a gayheart, Quince Sleaznski actually brought the ranking down.

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<v Speaker 2>He was a late addition and he was a three star.

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<v Speaker 2>But I feel like, oh, Josh Nickleberry, Yes, So that

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<v Speaker 2>class was a top ten class, and you know, that

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<v Speaker 2>was a great start for Chris Mack. And he did that,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, you know, with nobody know what was

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<v Speaker 2>gonna happen with the NCAA. Can you believe that's been

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<v Speaker 2>that long six seven years? I mean, those guys came

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<v Speaker 2>here in nineteen, but like they were recruited in seventeen,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess eighteen, and that was eight years ago. It's

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<v Speaker 2>crazy to think about it. Anyways, the next year, Mack

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<v Speaker 2>being Caleb Love actually, and there were four guys that

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<v Speaker 2>they appeared to be in really good shape for And

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<v Speaker 2>they lost Devin ask You to Kentucky, They lost Caleb

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<v Speaker 2>Love to North Carolina, They lost Jamin Braakfield who's now

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<v Speaker 2>guy at a Spire academy here in town. I already

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<v Speaker 2>forgot the young man's name. He ended up going to Kansas.

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<v Speaker 2>So they were in great shape, but they lost recruits

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<v Speaker 2>to Kentucky, Duke, Carolina, and Kansas. And I remember having

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<v Speaker 2>to tell people if you are in those waters and

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<v Speaker 2>you were competing with those schools for recruits, you lose

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<v Speaker 2>more than you're gonna win. You'll get some, but like

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<v Speaker 2>you just are so, I guess because you know, Louisville

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<v Speaker 2>has for the most part been a great program historically,

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<v Speaker 2>and even when they don't have the number one or

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<v Speaker 2>two class, they usually bring in good players. They're a

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<v Speaker 2>good program. We have I guess a better uh, we've

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<v Speaker 2>had better repetition as far as just understanding that we

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<v Speaker 2>can lose players to other schools because there's other great options.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess if you're the Dukes, the Kentucky's, the Carolinas,

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<v Speaker 2>the Kansas, it's a little bit more difficult because it

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't happen as much. And maybe because you know your

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<v Speaker 2>program's so great, you're just going to assume that if

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<v Speaker 2>somebody picked a different school, other than yours. Then there's

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<v Speaker 2>just got to be some explanation that would make it

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<v Speaker 2>make sense. Because the player just picking that school and

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<v Speaker 2>not yours, that just doesn't make sense. That's what I

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<v Speaker 2>think is happening here with with Wilkerson and Indiana, and

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<v Speaker 2>look to be fair, like if it is like he

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<v Speaker 2>didn't want to just be another guy and he wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to be the man. He's telling you what it is

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<v Speaker 2>and that doesn't mean he's scared. I mean so even

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<v Speaker 2>in this new world where money is going to be

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<v Speaker 2>a big factor, the biggest factor for most players, Kentucky

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<v Speaker 2>can spend I would assume a lot, but they may

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<v Speaker 2>choose not to. And I'm curious, is that arrogance is

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<v Speaker 2>that you're thinking, Okay, you should be willing to take

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<v Speaker 2>our offer that is fifteen percent lower than this schools

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<v Speaker 2>because we're Kentucky. And I think if you have the

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<v Speaker 2>expectation that a player is just going to okay, you're right.

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<v Speaker 2>What am I thinking? You're going to lose a lot?

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<v Speaker 2>Like you got to be able to you know. And

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<v Speaker 2>I don't mean I just have a hard time believe

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<v Speaker 2>in the Kentucky would ever lose a player because they

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<v Speaker 2>don't have money. I think it comes down to not

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<v Speaker 2>wanting to spend and if you're gonna be, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>stingy with your money because of your arrogance. And I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not saying that's what's happening here with Pope. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>I just feel like that's that's not the way to

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<v Speaker 2>go about it in this new world because regardless of

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<v Speaker 2>how great you are, you need money and you need

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<v Speaker 2>to spend because others are going to because they know

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<v Speaker 2>they've got to do that because they don't have the

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<v Speaker 2>cell that you do about being an elite program and

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<v Speaker 2>being you know, just one of the biggest fan bases,

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of national championships like that stuff still matters, but

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't at all matter the way it used to, right.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, if you had let's say John Wooden was

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<v Speaker 2>you know, in his prime right now in twenty twenty five,

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<v Speaker 2>and he had however many titles he had, but he's

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<v Speaker 2>not paying players, and everybody else is. John Wood's not

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<v Speaker 2>getting good players. So like that's that's just what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>So again, I I go back to what I said

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<v Speaker 2>yesterday Mark Pope. I don't know if it was public

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<v Speaker 2>or what, but he is he still is of the

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<v Speaker 2>belief that Kentucky has an edge to where if they're

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<v Speaker 2>competitive with money, they'll still get players even if it's

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<v Speaker 2>lower than the other school because they have a lot

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<v Speaker 2>more to all or that is not of monetary value,

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<v Speaker 2>and you may get player Like I'm sure there are

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<v Speaker 2>players that have decided to go to schools that are

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<v Speaker 2>paying them less money, but I'm sure it's rare, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you which guys aren't doing that very often.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're coming out of high school and you know

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<v Speaker 2>you're an NBA player at some point, you are going

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<v Speaker 2>to try to get money right out of the gate,

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<v Speaker 2>because why would you not be foolish? But you know

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<v Speaker 2>your big paid is your biggest payday's coming on Draft night.

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<v Speaker 2>Wilkerson just played at sam Houston State. He's twenty three,

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<v Speaker 2>He's not going to the NBA. Those are the guys

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<v Speaker 2>that you have to know when you get in bed

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<v Speaker 2>with them, or I guess you know you doing whatever

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<v Speaker 2>you do to try to get in bed with them.

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<v Speaker 2>Money's going to matter more than anything. So if Sam

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<v Speaker 2>Houston State had a rich booster with a bunch of

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<v Speaker 2>oil money and they found a way to pay more

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<v Speaker 2>than Indiana or Kentucky was willing to pay this guy

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<v Speaker 2>probably and that's not realistic, but that he probably would

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<v Speaker 2>have stayed at Sam Houston State because those are the

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<v Speaker 2>guys that this is about money and good for him.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying that's a knock, but like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like that that you you're recruiting a variety of different

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<v Speaker 2>types of players, and I don't mean big men in

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<v Speaker 2>guards or you know, athletes and not athletes, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>like different life situations. So I don't I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't even know if Kentucky did anything wrong. I just

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<v Speaker 2>think he picked Indiana and he kind of said as

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<v Speaker 2>much that he didn't want to be He just he

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<v Speaker 2>didn't want to be just another guy. He wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>really be impactful and have a bigger role in Indiana

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<v Speaker 2>has that in Kentucky doesn't have it to offer like that.

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<v Speaker 2>That doesn't mean he's scared of Kentucky. He might be.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, but it just yesterday was a real

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<v Speaker 2>reminder that Kentucky's one of those programs that if somebody

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't pick them, it can't just be because they wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to play there and not for you. But I'm telling

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<v Speaker 2>you that it can and and you know, Cal, I

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<v Speaker 2>think really changed the way a lot of their fans

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<v Speaker 2>viewed because Cal looked at it that way. Right. The

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<v Speaker 2>example that that I think is is worth bringing up.

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<v Speaker 2>Whenever Kentucky would lose players out of high school, it

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<v Speaker 2>was usually to one guy, Mike Sussky and Duke one guy,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think KSR documented it, like the last fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>guys that Coach K and Cole went head to head for,

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<v Speaker 2>the vast majority of them picked Duke and not Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think the two that did pick Kentucky over

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<v Speaker 2>Duke one was E. J. Montgomery, who was a bust,

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<v Speaker 2>and then the other one might have been Kevin Knox.

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<v Speaker 2>But a lot of the other guys they went head

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<v Speaker 2>to head for Kentucky didn't get Duke got and instead

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<v Speaker 2>of just realizing that Duke is a great program, probably

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<v Speaker 2>better than yours overall, especially in the modern era, they just,

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<v Speaker 2>like Cal put it out there that what's in it.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, they all wanted to come to Kentucky, they'd

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<v Speaker 2>have been here, but Coach K coaching tm USA and

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<v Speaker 2>he's got Lebron on his side now, and I mean

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<v Speaker 2>that's just what it is. We're not losing these guys

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<v Speaker 2>because they don't want to come play for me. It's

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<v Speaker 2>just that, you know, they're being bullied that if they

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<v Speaker 2>don't go play for coach k then maybe when they

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<v Speaker 2>become NBA players, they won't be uh, they won't they

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<v Speaker 2>won't be able to be They're gonna be picked to

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<v Speaker 2>play for Tmusay like or or maybe they just wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to go to Duke because it's Duke. You know what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying, Like I just have never you know, it

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<v Speaker 2>almost made me appreciate the fact that we've taken enough L's.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, we've gone through enough around here with Louisville

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<v Speaker 2>that like, there's not much that's gonna surprise me, if

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<v Speaker 2>I'm being honest about it.

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<v Speaker 3>But favor one is also most recently with the coaching selection.

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<v Speaker 3>And so Scott Drew really wanted to come here, but

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<v Speaker 3>his wife was comfortable in Texas. Yeah, but he really

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<v Speaker 3>did want UK was his first option. There's anywhere he's

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<v Speaker 3>gonna go, it's gonna be UK. But his wife was

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<v Speaker 3>more in Texas.

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<v Speaker 2>The wife leveraged the kids and they want to stay

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<v Speaker 2>in Waco, And you know, what are you gonna do

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<v Speaker 2>it's also the guy that Pope met at the airport

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<v Speaker 2>last year, Richie Saunders, and they made such a big

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<v Speaker 2>deal about it, and then he didn't. Oh, well, Mormon wife,

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<v Speaker 3>And I want to leave her three other husbands.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't know. Wouldn't it be that she's one

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<v Speaker 2>of like eight wives up the other way around? Right?

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<v Speaker 3>Wives? I should know that.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Quick break will come back for a quick

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<v Speaker 2>segment and then we will bring in a special guest

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<v Speaker 1>Ninety Now back to coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's

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<v Speaker 2>So we've got some breaking news on Nico.

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<v Speaker 3>Yama Leava.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, he's decided where he's going to go to

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<v Speaker 2>that Colin Cowherd is the one who broke this news, right,

419
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<v Speaker 2>he is very connected to UCLA. But yeah, he's headed

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<v Speaker 2>to UCLA. And I don't know if their money was

421
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<v Speaker 2>more than the others were willing to pay, but be

422
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<v Speaker 2>highly highly shocked if he's not making less than he was,

423
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<v Speaker 2>maybe substantial less than he was at Tennessee, which if

424
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<v Speaker 2>you remember, he was one of the first players in

425
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<v Speaker 2>this new world to be in the news because he

426
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<v Speaker 2>was coming to play for Tennessee, and it was because

427
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<v Speaker 2>they were going to be throwing millions of dollars at him.

428
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<v Speaker 2>And then you know, in a couple of years he

429
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<v Speaker 2>was fine. And I'm not gonna act like he wasn't good,

430
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<v Speaker 2>but when it comes to court, and by the way,

431
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<v Speaker 2>it's a mess that you try to hold out like

432
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<v Speaker 2>that like this. This is what happens when you when

433
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<v Speaker 2>you really force the hand of a program. They can't

434
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<v Speaker 2>let you, you know, hold him hostage like that. So

435
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<v Speaker 2>Tennessee's got to do what they got to do, and they,

436
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<v Speaker 2>I think made the right decision. And really, if this

437
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<v Speaker 2>would have played out to where he held out week

438
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<v Speaker 2>two weeks, comes back gets the money he wants, wouldn't

439
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<v Speaker 2>be shocked if that ruins your locker room, because that's

440
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's that's just that'd be tough to keep

441
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<v Speaker 2>your locker room all on the same page and everybody

442
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<v Speaker 2>buying in together. Whenever you got a guy that's holding out.

443
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<v Speaker 2>It's public what he wants money wise, and there's no

444
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<v Speaker 2>chance that anybody's making close to what he's making. And

445
00:22:09.359 --> 00:22:11.400
<v Speaker 2>I know the quarterback's always going to get priority and

446
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<v Speaker 2>probably more money than most positions, but I just think

447
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<v Speaker 2>that could have I think they made the right decision.

448
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<v Speaker 2>But I mean, what I find hilarious is his dad,

449
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<v Speaker 2>if you remember his dad, and I don't even know

450
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<v Speaker 2>if we brought this detail up, but his dad was

451
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<v Speaker 2>fighting on the internet with Pete Nako said on three

452
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<v Speaker 2>because he's the guy who put it out there and says, look,

453
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<v Speaker 2>I think he said directly, this is a source I

454
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<v Speaker 2>trust of my life at Tennessee that says Nico's camp

455
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<v Speaker 2>is absolutely holding out, wanting more money, claiming they're not

456
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<v Speaker 2>going to show back up to spring ball until they

457
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<v Speaker 2>get what they want. And sure enough, he did not

458
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<v Speaker 2>show up for I think two days, and then over

459
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<v Speaker 2>the weekend we found out that Tennessee moved on from him,

460
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<v Speaker 2>and the dad was saying that the reports were wrong,

461
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<v Speaker 2>and he was like cursing out, using, I mean, just

462
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<v Speaker 2>really looking like an absolute clown. And what's crazy is

463
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<v Speaker 2>that the kid was right like here, he is acting

464
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<v Speaker 2>like a fool on the internet over a report about

465
00:23:10.079 --> 00:23:12.799
<v Speaker 2>his kid, when really you stand to benefit in no

466
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<v Speaker 2>way that if you're going back and forth with fans

467
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<v Speaker 2>on the internet. But it's one thing to do it

468
00:23:19.160 --> 00:23:21.400
<v Speaker 2>when you are in fact having to correct somebody for

469
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<v Speaker 2>putting misinformation out there. The kid was right and you lied,

470
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<v Speaker 2>That's what it was. So, I mean, I don't know

471
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<v Speaker 2>his father. Maybe he's a nice man, but I find

472
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<v Speaker 2>him to be to blame here for a lot of this.

473
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<v Speaker 2>And maybe Nico's just as much involved and he is

474
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<v Speaker 2>his own man, But would anybody be shocked if like

475
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<v Speaker 2>this whole thing was led by his dad, and his

476
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<v Speaker 2>dad now is coming out and just like making an

477
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<v Speaker 2>even bigger fool of himself because this is a report

478
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<v Speaker 2>from Yahoo Sports. They're the ones who I'm referencing right now.

479
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<v Speaker 2>He just says report Nico Lama lave La is heading

480
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<v Speaker 2>to UCLA per colin Cowherd. And then it says the

481
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<v Speaker 2>family claims it was not about the money with Tennessee,

482
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<v Speaker 2>but it was the ball's offense. Like, don't insult everyone's

483
00:24:08.720 --> 00:24:12.599
<v Speaker 2>intelligence like that, Like you're an idiot. Nobody believes that

484
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<v Speaker 2>for a second, because if it was about the offense

485
00:24:17.279 --> 00:24:21.680
<v Speaker 2>you would have left after last year? Were you holding

486
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<v Speaker 2>out of practice last week so they could fire the

487
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<v Speaker 2>OC and get a new one. I mean that's his

488
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<v Speaker 2>balls of a request, which isn't real, but if that

489
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<v Speaker 2>was the case, hypothetically, that's his balls as what in

490
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<v Speaker 2>four million dollars as spring Ball is concluding, Like, it's

491
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<v Speaker 2>just I kind of feel bad for him, but then

492
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<v Speaker 2>again I don't. And the only reason I have a

493
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<v Speaker 2>little bit of, like, you know, feeling bad for him,

494
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<v Speaker 2>is because I wouldn't be shocked at all if he

495
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<v Speaker 2>was content and it was all put in. This whole

496
00:24:57.880 --> 00:25:01.079
<v Speaker 2>thing was put in motion by his His family is entourage,

497
00:25:01.119 --> 00:25:02.799
<v Speaker 2>his dad, and they're just out here being greedy, and

498
00:25:02.799 --> 00:25:07.240
<v Speaker 2>it's really impacted in his future. I mean, he is

499
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<v Speaker 2>his own man. He can do what he wants. Nobody

500
00:25:09.240 --> 00:25:12.000
<v Speaker 2>can force him to do. Did you do anything? But

501
00:25:12.160 --> 00:25:14.720
<v Speaker 2>like if it was you and you're eighteen, nineteen twenty,

502
00:25:14.720 --> 00:25:18.359
<v Speaker 2>whatever it is, he's probably what nineteen twenty, Yeah, you're

503
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<v Speaker 2>an adult. But even like to this day, I'm thirty six,

504
00:25:24.200 --> 00:25:27.359
<v Speaker 2>if I had like a big decision about my life

505
00:25:28.839 --> 00:25:32.720
<v Speaker 2>in about like my family overall, and my dad was

506
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<v Speaker 2>influencing what I did. I would just assume, well, he's

507
00:25:36.279 --> 00:25:38.799
<v Speaker 2>my father, he knows what's best for me. Whatever he's

508
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<v Speaker 2>telling me to do is going to be what what

509
00:25:41.279 --> 00:25:42.960
<v Speaker 2>I is going to be what's best for him, because

510
00:25:43.559 --> 00:25:46.359
<v Speaker 2>nobody looks out for you like your own right. But

511
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<v Speaker 2>that's when parent, you know, parents get greedy, and I'm

512
00:25:49.680 --> 00:25:52.279
<v Speaker 2>sure Nico just assumes that, you know, yeah, it's my dad.

513
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<v Speaker 2>So whatever whatever he says I should do is what

514
00:25:55.759 --> 00:25:58.680
<v Speaker 2>I should do because he looks out for me. And

515
00:25:58.720 --> 00:26:00.559
<v Speaker 2>maybe that's what his dad thinks, but that's not how

516
00:26:00.559 --> 00:26:03.960
<v Speaker 2>this played out. So anyways, Nico heading to UCLA gonna

517
00:26:03.960 --> 00:26:07.759
<v Speaker 2>be in the Big ten, and I don't think Ucla

518
00:26:07.880 --> 00:26:11.839
<v Speaker 2>is gonna be good because he's fine. He's a good quarterback,

519
00:26:11.880 --> 00:26:14.960
<v Speaker 2>but like, is he going to be enough to boost

520
00:26:15.000 --> 00:26:17.079
<v Speaker 2>them to where they're competing in the top tier of

521
00:26:17.079 --> 00:26:21.119
<v Speaker 2>the Big Ten? I would say no, but he's from California,

522
00:26:21.160 --> 00:26:23.920
<v Speaker 2>so he is, you know, getting back to his hometown area.

523
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<v Speaker 2>All right, real quick, somebody on the text line brought

524
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<v Speaker 2>this up. I did not talk about this last week.

525
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<v Speaker 2>Is one of the things that came out while I

526
00:26:31.160 --> 00:26:33.720
<v Speaker 2>was on vacation, and I just never really brought it up.

527
00:26:33.720 --> 00:26:37.279
<v Speaker 2>It didn't come up in conversation, but Rick Pittino. I

528
00:26:37.279 --> 00:26:38.880
<v Speaker 2>don't know where he did an interview or where he

529
00:26:38.960 --> 00:26:41.400
<v Speaker 2>was talking, but he had said that they're working on

530
00:26:42.000 --> 00:26:45.480
<v Speaker 2>a series Saint John's and Louisville in basketball, and it

531
00:26:45.519 --> 00:26:48.599
<v Speaker 2>would start next season with Louisville playing Saint John's in

532
00:26:48.640 --> 00:26:51.960
<v Speaker 2>the Garden. To my understanding, that is not that is

533
00:26:52.000 --> 00:26:56.000
<v Speaker 2>not finalized yet and what I want to do. We'll

534
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<v Speaker 2>save this for a little bit later on, but if

535
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<v Speaker 2>you're a Louisville fan, like do you want that game?

536
00:27:02.720 --> 00:27:05.400
<v Speaker 2>And I'm not necessarily talking about like the series, but

537
00:27:05.440 --> 00:27:09.680
<v Speaker 2>like do you want that non conference Like do you

538
00:27:09.680 --> 00:27:11.680
<v Speaker 2>want like just think next year alone? Like do you

539
00:27:11.759 --> 00:27:17.680
<v Speaker 2>want Louisville to play Patino in the garden? Because I do.

540
00:27:18.880 --> 00:27:21.119
<v Speaker 2>But we're doing Rick a favor, you know that, right?

541
00:27:21.279 --> 00:27:24.960
<v Speaker 3>Like sure, and and does me a favor too by

542
00:27:25.000 --> 00:27:28.279
<v Speaker 3>just getting that Louisville and Rick thing kind of but

543
00:27:28.319 --> 00:27:29.559
<v Speaker 3>it closely more bonded.

544
00:27:29.720 --> 00:27:32.480
<v Speaker 2>But it wouldn't not so now he would have to

545
00:27:32.519 --> 00:27:36.559
<v Speaker 2>come here, and you know a lot of people are saying, well,

546
00:27:37.240 --> 00:27:40.519
<v Speaker 2>Rick's gonna put this in motion, and he knows deep down.

547
00:27:40.559 --> 00:27:42.319
<v Speaker 2>By the time they do play a game in the

548
00:27:42.400 --> 00:27:44.119
<v Speaker 2>young he won't be at Saint John's anymore, which I

549
00:27:44.119 --> 00:27:46.440
<v Speaker 2>don't know. I don't see Rick retiring anytime soon, but

550
00:27:46.559 --> 00:27:49.759
<v Speaker 2>that that would be the way it would, you know,

551
00:27:49.960 --> 00:27:52.319
<v Speaker 2>Rick going up there, I mean it would be his turf,

552
00:27:52.440 --> 00:27:55.920
<v Speaker 2>and yeah, clearly it be a big storyline nationally, But

553
00:27:56.079 --> 00:28:00.640
<v Speaker 2>like I think Rick would be kind of like sour.

554
00:28:02.759 --> 00:28:04.200
<v Speaker 2>In fact, we'll talk about this in the five o'clock

555
00:28:04.200 --> 00:28:06.440
<v Speaker 2>our because I have a prediction as far as if

556
00:28:06.440 --> 00:28:10.200
<v Speaker 2>that game happens, like what Rick will do, and I

557
00:28:10.200 --> 00:28:11.440
<v Speaker 2>don't know, maybe I would do the same thing, so

558
00:28:11.440 --> 00:28:13.359
<v Speaker 2>I don't It's not like I'm gonna be super critical,

559
00:28:13.400 --> 00:28:17.000
<v Speaker 2>but I think Rick's doesn't have There's no individual Rick

560
00:28:17.039 --> 00:28:18.960
<v Speaker 2>can point to right now that is still involved in

561
00:28:19.000 --> 00:28:21.240
<v Speaker 2>any way with anything with U of L Athletics that

562
00:28:21.279 --> 00:28:23.799
<v Speaker 2>he can be mad at. Not a single one. But

563
00:28:23.839 --> 00:28:29.319
<v Speaker 2>he still feels wrong by the university right and I

564
00:28:29.359 --> 00:28:32.440
<v Speaker 2>don't know if that's ever going to go away, But

565
00:28:33.599 --> 00:28:37.720
<v Speaker 2>like he hates Papa John and David Grissom, but like

566
00:28:37.799 --> 00:28:41.440
<v Speaker 2>they're long gone and anybody here now didn't even work

567
00:28:41.480 --> 00:28:43.359
<v Speaker 2>with u of L seemingly or work around u of

568
00:28:43.480 --> 00:28:46.839
<v Speaker 2>L when they were here anyway, So or Postal too

569
00:28:46.880 --> 00:28:51.319
<v Speaker 2>great Postal Postal, Papa John, and David Grissom. Those are

570
00:28:51.319 --> 00:28:55.200
<v Speaker 2>the three people that Rick Patino is still very much

571
00:28:55.279 --> 00:28:57.759
<v Speaker 2>bitter about, and I probably would be too, to be

572
00:28:57.839 --> 00:28:59.920
<v Speaker 2>honest with you. But anyways, quick Break will come back

573
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<v Speaker 2>on the other side, and joining us when we return

574
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<v Speaker 2>is mister Joe christ Effect, who will join us to

575
00:29:05.799 --> 00:29:07.440
<v Speaker 2>talk about a big event we've got coming up on

576
00:29:07.440 --> 00:29:09.559
<v Speaker 2>eight forty whas as we get set for Derby, So

577
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<v Speaker 2>stick around right here on Sports Talk seven ninety.

578
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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Coffee and Company fueled by Thornton's on

579
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<v Speaker 1>Sports Talk seven nine day.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, Coffee and Company rolling along here on a

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<v Speaker 2>Wednesday afternoon, and appreciate you hanging out with us. We

582
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<v Speaker 2>also appreciate Joe Crestaffect, who joins us here on Sports

583
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<v Speaker 2>Talk seven ninety to talk about our big event coming

584
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<v Speaker 2>up here. How we doing, Joe.

585
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<v Speaker 4>Hey, doing good, gearing up, getting ready?

586
00:29:36.519 --> 00:29:39.079
<v Speaker 2>It'll be here soon, man, And I just realized, man,

587
00:29:39.079 --> 00:29:41.640
<v Speaker 2>we've been This event's been going on for some years now.

588
00:29:41.640 --> 00:29:43.920
<v Speaker 2>For those who aren't familiar with it, it's our Derby betting

589
00:29:43.920 --> 00:29:46.240
<v Speaker 2>preview night that we have at Mike Lennings every year.

590
00:29:46.440 --> 00:29:48.960
<v Speaker 2>On news radio eight forty WHS. It's coming up on

591
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<v Speaker 2>April twenty second. I don't know how many years it's

592
00:29:50.960 --> 00:29:52.559
<v Speaker 2>been going on, but I know it's certainly not a

593
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<v Speaker 2>new event anymore. So I would assume with us being

594
00:29:55.039 --> 00:29:57.160
<v Speaker 2>able to keep putting it on, and that means it's

595
00:29:57.200 --> 00:30:00.559
<v Speaker 2>pretty successful. What could you tell the those who maybe

596
00:30:00.559 --> 00:30:02.319
<v Speaker 2>aren't familiar, What could they learn, What could they take

597
00:30:02.359 --> 00:30:04.720
<v Speaker 2>away from this experience that could make them a little

598
00:30:04.720 --> 00:30:07.400
<v Speaker 2>bit more prepared to make some wagers on Derby Day.

599
00:30:09.200 --> 00:30:13.359
<v Speaker 4>Well, my job is to scout these horses over the

600
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<v Speaker 4>course of a seven month period. I mean the first

601
00:30:16.279 --> 00:30:20.559
<v Speaker 4>Kentucky Derby prep way back in September at Churchill Downs,

602
00:30:20.559 --> 00:30:23.000
<v Speaker 4>the Iroquois Stakes, and they go all the way through

603
00:30:23.039 --> 00:30:26.960
<v Speaker 4>the Bluegrass and the Lexington and Keenland. And now we've

604
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<v Speaker 4>got the list of twenty four horses. Twenty of them

605
00:30:31.559 --> 00:30:32.960
<v Speaker 4>are going to get in the starting gig for the

606
00:30:33.039 --> 00:30:35.920
<v Speaker 4>Kentucky Derby. There's still a few that want to run,

607
00:30:35.960 --> 00:30:38.039
<v Speaker 4>that are on the outside looking in, that don't have

608
00:30:38.559 --> 00:30:42.680
<v Speaker 4>quite enough points at this moment in time. But Jody

609
00:30:42.759 --> 00:30:45.440
<v Speaker 4>Demmling is going to be hosting it as always. James

610
00:30:45.440 --> 00:30:49.920
<v Speaker 4>Scully from Twin Spires, who has a world of knowledge,

611
00:30:50.000 --> 00:30:53.240
<v Speaker 4>and myself will be the three panelists, and we're going

612
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<v Speaker 4>to take a look at, you know, some of the

613
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<v Speaker 4>big prep races, the videos, share our thoughts and basically,

614
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<v Speaker 4>you know, the cliff notes version of this is to

615
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<v Speaker 4>just get everybody up to speed on all the horses

616
00:31:07.000 --> 00:31:11.000
<v Speaker 4>in Kentucky Derby. Our opinions. Horses we think have the

617
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<v Speaker 4>best chance to win, long shots we think have the

618
00:31:13.880 --> 00:31:16.359
<v Speaker 4>best chance to win, or at least hit the board

619
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<v Speaker 4>and put you in a position to make some money

620
00:31:19.400 --> 00:31:20.640
<v Speaker 4>on Kentucky Derby.

621
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<v Speaker 2>Day, and last but not least, some delicious fish at

622
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<v Speaker 2>Mike Lennox, right. I mean, that's that's a big factor.

623
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<v Speaker 4>That's what I like to say. Come for the fish

624
00:31:28.519 --> 00:31:29.920
<v Speaker 4>and stick around for the seminar.

625
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's right.

626
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<v Speaker 4>It's a great venue for this thing too. It's just

627
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<v Speaker 4>very comfortable. It's intimate, but there's still a lot of space,

628
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<v Speaker 4>and you know, if the weather's not great, it's kind

629
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<v Speaker 4>of an indoor outdoor event, so you don't have to

630
00:31:42.519 --> 00:31:46.759
<v Speaker 4>worry about, oh it's raining. There's plenty of parking, it's

631
00:31:46.839 --> 00:31:50.400
<v Speaker 4>reasonably priced, and there's some other perks. A courtesy it's

632
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<v Speaker 4>Winspires too.

633
00:31:51.680 --> 00:31:54.400
<v Speaker 2>So again it'll be on April twenty second at Mike

634
00:31:54.519 --> 00:31:58.039
<v Speaker 2>Lennox seven to nine pm. Doors are going to open

635
00:31:58.160 --> 00:31:59.519
<v Speaker 2>up at six o'clock and if you want to get

636
00:31:59.519 --> 00:32:02.480
<v Speaker 2>more information and see the link for tickets, you can

637
00:32:02.480 --> 00:32:05.279
<v Speaker 2>go to whas dot com. Joe, what do you make

638
00:32:05.319 --> 00:32:08.480
<v Speaker 2>of the field in this year's Kentucky Derby? I know

639
00:32:08.559 --> 00:32:11.559
<v Speaker 2>that's a broad question, but obviously when you when you

640
00:32:11.599 --> 00:32:13.519
<v Speaker 2>get you get a look at at which horses are

641
00:32:13.599 --> 00:32:15.759
<v Speaker 2>going to be actually competing, and you mentioned some that

642
00:32:15.759 --> 00:32:18.079
<v Speaker 2>are on the outside hoping to maybe get an opportunity.

643
00:32:18.319 --> 00:32:20.359
<v Speaker 2>Would just say it's a competitive field? Is it? Is

644
00:32:20.400 --> 00:32:22.839
<v Speaker 2>it once again a field? It seems like in recent

645
00:32:22.920 --> 00:32:24.680
<v Speaker 2>years there's been some real big favorites to get a

646
00:32:24.720 --> 00:32:26.160
<v Speaker 2>whole lot of buzz. What do we you know, we're

647
00:32:26.200 --> 00:32:28.720
<v Speaker 2>still still a couple weeks away from it, but how

648
00:32:28.759 --> 00:32:31.440
<v Speaker 2>would you assess the you know, the twenty horse field

649
00:32:31.519 --> 00:32:32.400
<v Speaker 2>right now as it stands?

650
00:32:33.640 --> 00:32:36.119
<v Speaker 4>It's fun. I mean there's a lot of different horses

651
00:32:36.119 --> 00:32:38.079
<v Speaker 4>that I think have a chance to win. And then,

652
00:32:38.759 --> 00:32:41.359
<v Speaker 4>as you've seen in recent years, sometimes you never know.

653
00:32:41.480 --> 00:32:43.720
<v Speaker 4>We think back to Rich Strike a couple of years ago,

654
00:32:43.799 --> 00:32:48.240
<v Speaker 4>nobody gave him a chance lucky number twenty one, drawing

655
00:32:48.279 --> 00:32:50.720
<v Speaker 4>in at the very last minute, winning at eighty to one.

656
00:32:51.119 --> 00:32:53.240
<v Speaker 4>I don't think you want to race after that. I

657
00:32:53.279 --> 00:32:56.759
<v Speaker 4>mean so sometimes strange things happen in the Derby. Then

658
00:32:56.839 --> 00:32:59.960
<v Speaker 4>last year Brian Ornandez Junior with the perfect ride, local

659
00:33:00.160 --> 00:33:03.359
<v Speaker 4>guy Ken McPeak the winning trainer. They win the Oaks

660
00:33:03.400 --> 00:33:06.960
<v Speaker 4>the day before with Torpedo, Anda win the Kentucky Derby

661
00:33:07.000 --> 00:33:09.519
<v Speaker 4>with just a great trip and a great ride with

662
00:33:09.680 --> 00:33:12.400
<v Speaker 4>Mystic Dan. And you know then we've had, you know,

663
00:33:12.480 --> 00:33:15.759
<v Speaker 4>a lot of favorites, American Pharaoh, Justify, et cetera. There's

664
00:33:15.799 --> 00:33:17.720
<v Speaker 4>a little bit of everything in this race. The favorite

665
00:33:17.759 --> 00:33:20.319
<v Speaker 4>likely is going to be journalism or that's one four

666
00:33:20.359 --> 00:33:22.960
<v Speaker 4>in a row coming from southern California. But there are

667
00:33:23.000 --> 00:33:25.880
<v Speaker 4>a lot of long shots too that I'm sure Jody

668
00:33:25.960 --> 00:33:28.640
<v Speaker 4>and James and I know myself have our eyes on

669
00:33:29.119 --> 00:33:31.240
<v Speaker 4>that could that could pull off the upset.

670
00:33:31.519 --> 00:33:33.480
<v Speaker 2>You've been doing this a long time, Joe, give me

671
00:33:34.279 --> 00:33:37.480
<v Speaker 2>an up, Give me a you know, an underdog that

672
00:33:37.680 --> 00:33:40.960
<v Speaker 2>you were able to kind of, you know, predict before

673
00:33:41.000 --> 00:33:43.039
<v Speaker 2>a lot of others did and it actually played out.

674
00:33:43.160 --> 00:33:44.839
<v Speaker 2>Is there one that you felt like you were you

675
00:33:44.839 --> 00:33:47.440
<v Speaker 2>were in early, like before it became a cool thing

676
00:33:47.480 --> 00:33:49.799
<v Speaker 2>to say that this horse maybe maybe maybe have a

677
00:33:49.799 --> 00:33:52.000
<v Speaker 2>better shot at winning than others. Think.

678
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I would say, since the point system has been instituted,

679
00:33:56.680 --> 00:33:59.279
<v Speaker 4>a lot of the favorites have won the race, and

680
00:33:59.319 --> 00:34:00.960
<v Speaker 4>I've been on a lot of them, but there have

681
00:34:01.039 --> 00:34:03.200
<v Speaker 4>been some long shots too. I wasn't on Mystic Dan

682
00:34:03.279 --> 00:34:06.759
<v Speaker 4>last year. I wasn't, you know, on the horse that

683
00:34:06.799 --> 00:34:10.599
<v Speaker 4>I alluded to earlier that scored the huge upset. I

684
00:34:10.639 --> 00:34:12.679
<v Speaker 4>would say from an Oaks perspective, but we'll have a

685
00:34:12.719 --> 00:34:15.440
<v Speaker 4>little bit of Oaks as well. Sarrenghetti Empress was the

686
00:34:15.440 --> 00:34:17.760
<v Speaker 4>one that I was on. I watched her train and

687
00:34:17.840 --> 00:34:20.519
<v Speaker 4>run all winter long at fairgrounds. They do spend my

688
00:34:20.559 --> 00:34:23.880
<v Speaker 4>winters in New Orleans, and she was a big price

689
00:34:23.920 --> 00:34:26.440
<v Speaker 4>in the Kentucky Oaks. I think she was fifteen eighteen

690
00:34:26.519 --> 00:34:29.840
<v Speaker 4>to one. She went wired to wire. That was a

691
00:34:29.880 --> 00:34:33.760
<v Speaker 4>great scenario. I was doubled up to maximum security in

692
00:34:33.800 --> 00:34:37.800
<v Speaker 4>the derby. He won, but unfortunately he got disqualified and

693
00:34:37.920 --> 00:34:41.440
<v Speaker 4>Country House was the adjudicated winner over a very sloppy

694
00:34:41.480 --> 00:34:44.599
<v Speaker 4>track that particular day. So you know, there's the Oaks,

695
00:34:44.639 --> 00:34:47.079
<v Speaker 4>there's a derby, and then There's so many other races

696
00:34:47.119 --> 00:34:50.239
<v Speaker 4>between opening night and the actual Kentucky Derby on the

697
00:34:50.280 --> 00:34:53.000
<v Speaker 4>first Saturday in May that I'll be diving into and

698
00:34:53.039 --> 00:34:55.760
<v Speaker 4>making predictions on. But the Derby's going to be the

699
00:34:55.840 --> 00:34:57.480
<v Speaker 4>main focus at the seminar.

700
00:34:57.760 --> 00:35:01.320
<v Speaker 2>Again, we're talking about the horse racing. We've got the

701
00:35:01.320 --> 00:35:04.519
<v Speaker 2>Derby betting preview night coming up here on April twenty second,

702
00:35:04.559 --> 00:35:06.519
<v Speaker 2>Mike Lennings seven to nine pm. Doors are gonna open

703
00:35:06.599 --> 00:35:09.119
<v Speaker 2>up at six o'clock and again you can get tickets

704
00:35:09.119 --> 00:35:12.599
<v Speaker 2>and get information at WHAS dot com. And Joe christ

705
00:35:12.599 --> 00:35:14.440
<v Speaker 2>Effect joins us here talking about this big of it.

706
00:35:14.480 --> 00:35:16.800
<v Speaker 2>He'll be one of the panelists as we bring this

707
00:35:16.840 --> 00:35:20.119
<v Speaker 2>event back one more time. I know that you're gonna

708
00:35:20.119 --> 00:35:22.280
<v Speaker 2>you know, your job is to follow along, regardless of

709
00:35:22.320 --> 00:35:25.039
<v Speaker 2>who's training the horses, and and you know, it's what

710
00:35:25.079 --> 00:35:26.960
<v Speaker 2>you do, You've done in a long time. As we've mentioned,

711
00:35:27.320 --> 00:35:29.440
<v Speaker 2>what do you make of the Bob Baffort return here.

712
00:35:29.440 --> 00:35:31.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure it's not something that you're hyper focused on,

713
00:35:31.480 --> 00:35:33.920
<v Speaker 2>but obviously gonna be a really big storyline as he's

714
00:35:33.960 --> 00:35:37.199
<v Speaker 2>making his return here to Churchill Downs. I mean, I mean,

715
00:35:37.360 --> 00:35:39.599
<v Speaker 2>would anybody be shocked if you know if one of

716
00:35:39.639 --> 00:35:41.719
<v Speaker 2>the many horses he's got involved here. I mean, I

717
00:35:41.719 --> 00:35:43.639
<v Speaker 2>don't know where they stand as far as favorites, as

718
00:35:43.639 --> 00:35:45.719
<v Speaker 2>far as odds right now, but I mean kind of

719
00:35:45.719 --> 00:35:49.079
<v Speaker 2>feels like from my perspective, this will be a dominating

720
00:35:49.159 --> 00:35:51.159
<v Speaker 2>talking point. Maybe not from with what you guys do

721
00:35:51.519 --> 00:35:53.960
<v Speaker 2>deep into it, but from you know, the casuals out there,

722
00:35:53.960 --> 00:35:55.280
<v Speaker 2>the casual horse racing fans.

723
00:35:56.280 --> 00:35:58.800
<v Speaker 4>Any attention is good attention, so it's good to happen.

724
00:35:58.840 --> 00:36:00.599
<v Speaker 2>Well said, yeah.

725
00:36:00.639 --> 00:36:03.159
<v Speaker 4>I mean, he's got Rodriguez, who is the easy winner

726
00:36:03.159 --> 00:36:06.280
<v Speaker 4>of the Wood Memorial. He's got Citizen Bull who won

727
00:36:06.320 --> 00:36:09.280
<v Speaker 4>the Breeders Cup. Juvenile did not run that well in

728
00:36:09.320 --> 00:36:12.199
<v Speaker 4>his most recent start when he got beat by almost

729
00:36:12.199 --> 00:36:15.679
<v Speaker 4>ten lengths by journalism, but he's capable. He's got Madict

730
00:36:15.760 --> 00:36:18.719
<v Speaker 4>Road on the fringe of making it into the Derby.

731
00:36:18.760 --> 00:36:21.559
<v Speaker 4>He had a horse named Barnes that was all the rage,

732
00:36:21.599 --> 00:36:24.199
<v Speaker 4>and another horse named Cornicope and who was all the rage,

733
00:36:24.440 --> 00:36:27.320
<v Speaker 4>who didn't quite do enough to get into the Kentucky

734
00:36:27.320 --> 00:36:29.719
<v Speaker 4>Derby field. Maybe horses that don't want to run a

735
00:36:29.719 --> 00:36:32.840
<v Speaker 4>mile in a quarter anyways, But you know, we know

736
00:36:33.000 --> 00:36:37.679
<v Speaker 4>about his personality, we know about his success. Sixth Kentucky

737
00:36:37.679 --> 00:36:42.159
<v Speaker 4>Derby wins tied with Ben Jones. He had the seventh one.

738
00:36:42.239 --> 00:36:46.360
<v Speaker 4>We all know about the disqualification and his eventual suspension.

739
00:36:46.480 --> 00:36:50.880
<v Speaker 4>But you know, Bob is he's a character in horse racing.

740
00:36:51.280 --> 00:36:54.480
<v Speaker 4>He's had a lot of success. He's paid his dues

741
00:36:55.280 --> 00:36:57.960
<v Speaker 4>and his back for the Kentucky Derby this year, and

742
00:36:58.000 --> 00:37:00.239
<v Speaker 4>like you said, it's gonna be a major storyline. I

743
00:37:00.280 --> 00:37:02.960
<v Speaker 4>think it's important for the general sports public that we

744
00:37:03.079 --> 00:37:05.960
<v Speaker 4>draw some attention to horse racing, even if it is

745
00:37:06.000 --> 00:37:06.320
<v Speaker 4>in this.

746
00:37:06.320 --> 00:37:08.880
<v Speaker 2>Regard when it comes to Badford. I know you wouldn't

747
00:37:08.880 --> 00:37:11.480
<v Speaker 2>speak for anybody but yourself, but do you believe that

748
00:37:11.920 --> 00:37:14.840
<v Speaker 2>among his peers, is he is he? Is he a

749
00:37:15.000 --> 00:37:17.320
<v Speaker 2>liked guy? Is he respect Obviously he's respected as being

750
00:37:17.360 --> 00:37:19.639
<v Speaker 2>great at what he does. But I just feel like

751
00:37:19.880 --> 00:37:22.800
<v Speaker 2>he's been sort of portrayed and maybe it maybe it's

752
00:37:22.800 --> 00:37:24.679
<v Speaker 2>because for good reason that he's some kind of villain.

753
00:37:24.719 --> 00:37:26.159
<v Speaker 2>And again, I'm not asking you to give your personal

754
00:37:26.159 --> 00:37:27.960
<v Speaker 2>opinion on him, but I just feel like it's good

755
00:37:27.960 --> 00:37:30.039
<v Speaker 2>that to have him back. You mentioned the attention will

756
00:37:30.039 --> 00:37:31.840
<v Speaker 2>be good for the sport overall, but I think some

757
00:37:31.880 --> 00:37:33.480
<v Speaker 2>of the coverage of it, I just you know, I'm

758
00:37:33.519 --> 00:37:35.880
<v Speaker 2>not connected like you are by any means, but I

759
00:37:35.960 --> 00:37:38.079
<v Speaker 2>just I've never once felt like, prior to this stuff,

760
00:37:38.119 --> 00:37:39.760
<v Speaker 2>he was viewed as somebody that was, you know, a

761
00:37:39.800 --> 00:37:41.480
<v Speaker 2>bad guy for the sport. I think he's good for

762
00:37:41.559 --> 00:37:42.400
<v Speaker 2>the sport.

763
00:37:43.559 --> 00:37:46.400
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean he had that you know, that positive

764
00:37:46.559 --> 00:37:49.719
<v Speaker 4>when he won the Derby a few years ago. It's

765
00:37:49.800 --> 00:37:53.360
<v Speaker 4>just not good in the Kentucky Derby. Now how it happened,

766
00:37:53.400 --> 00:37:56.159
<v Speaker 4>if it was something he was trying to hide or

767
00:37:56.199 --> 00:37:59.760
<v Speaker 4>it was contamination. I'm not a vet. I you know,

768
00:37:59.840 --> 00:38:03.800
<v Speaker 4>I promote the sport. I handicap the races. I try

769
00:38:03.840 --> 00:38:07.360
<v Speaker 4>to be someone that you know, tries to develop the

770
00:38:07.400 --> 00:38:10.519
<v Speaker 4>fan base and educate people, because sure, I love all

771
00:38:10.639 --> 00:38:16.079
<v Speaker 4>aspects of it. But he, you know, in an overall

772
00:38:16.159 --> 00:38:19.039
<v Speaker 4>perspective of his entire career, he's always been good for

773
00:38:19.079 --> 00:38:23.840
<v Speaker 4>the game. He's got a good, great personality. He's easily identifiable,

774
00:38:24.519 --> 00:38:28.320
<v Speaker 4>he's well spoken, he's somebody that people can relate to,

775
00:38:28.440 --> 00:38:30.400
<v Speaker 4>and he's had a lot of really, really good horses

776
00:38:30.440 --> 00:38:33.039
<v Speaker 4>over the years. So, you know, we've seen it in

777
00:38:33.079 --> 00:38:35.760
<v Speaker 4>baseball Nick many times. You've seen people that have been

778
00:38:36.199 --> 00:38:39.519
<v Speaker 4>suspended or you know, on the outs for you know,

779
00:38:39.639 --> 00:38:43.079
<v Speaker 4>suspected ped use and then they wind up, you know,

780
00:38:43.199 --> 00:38:46.760
<v Speaker 4>being embraced by the public once again. It's the journey

781
00:38:46.840 --> 00:38:50.480
<v Speaker 4>in gay comparison, it's the closest one I can think of, though, Yeah, I'm.

782
00:38:50.360 --> 00:38:53.039
<v Speaker 2>With you know, I get it. It's I think it

783
00:38:53.079 --> 00:38:54.559
<v Speaker 2>fits to be honest with the right. Last question, I

784
00:38:54.639 --> 00:38:55.880
<v Speaker 2>just want to pick your brain real quick on this

785
00:38:56.039 --> 00:38:59.639
<v Speaker 2>of in your time covering the sport, do you have

786
00:38:59.719 --> 00:39:02.840
<v Speaker 2>a favorite story as far as a Derby winner. Maybe

787
00:39:02.840 --> 00:39:05.559
<v Speaker 2>not a favorite horse, but maybe just one one that

788
00:39:05.920 --> 00:39:07.880
<v Speaker 2>came through that you just feel like from start to

789
00:39:07.920 --> 00:39:09.880
<v Speaker 2>finish like it was, you know, something you'd see in

790
00:39:09.880 --> 00:39:11.880
<v Speaker 2>a movie or something like that. Maybe that's a little dramatic,

791
00:39:11.920 --> 00:39:12.800
<v Speaker 2>but I think you know what I mean.

792
00:39:13.719 --> 00:39:15.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean the ones that you're always going to

793
00:39:15.920 --> 00:39:18.280
<v Speaker 4>gravitate to are the ones that you had success on.

794
00:39:18.360 --> 00:39:23.079
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I had a really good score a few

795
00:39:23.199 --> 00:39:26.159
<v Speaker 4>years ago when when Pletcher won the Derby wire a wire.

796
00:39:26.480 --> 00:39:28.880
<v Speaker 4>I think the one I remember most of all though,

797
00:39:28.920 --> 00:39:31.800
<v Speaker 4>will be American Pharaoh because that was my first year

798
00:39:31.920 --> 00:39:35.719
<v Speaker 4>as the paddock Hoach Churchill twenty fifteen. He won not

799
00:39:35.760 --> 00:39:38.039
<v Speaker 4>only the Derby that year, but the Triple Crown, and

800
00:39:38.360 --> 00:39:40.280
<v Speaker 4>you know, you talk about Bafford, that was the first

801
00:39:40.320 --> 00:39:43.679
<v Speaker 4>triple crown winner since nineteen seventy eight, and I remember,

802
00:39:43.960 --> 00:39:46.039
<v Speaker 4>you know, it was a couple months later they brought

803
00:39:46.079 --> 00:39:49.360
<v Speaker 4>American Pharaoh back to Churchill and they paraded him at

804
00:39:49.400 --> 00:39:51.239
<v Speaker 4>the track, and it was such a big deal that

805
00:39:51.320 --> 00:39:54.480
<v Speaker 4>somebody won the triple crown. Justifi has done it since.

806
00:39:54.800 --> 00:39:57.559
<v Speaker 4>But I remember standing in the paddock back then, and

807
00:39:57.800 --> 00:40:01.559
<v Speaker 4>you know, introducing American Pharaoh who was parading in the paddock,

808
00:40:01.599 --> 00:40:04.239
<v Speaker 4>and you know, people were ten deep in the paddock.

809
00:40:04.280 --> 00:40:08.199
<v Speaker 4>We're cheering, we're emotional, and I get chills just thinking

810
00:40:08.239 --> 00:40:10.360
<v Speaker 4>about it because it was just one of those moments

811
00:40:10.599 --> 00:40:13.440
<v Speaker 4>you'll never forget. For all the reasons that I mentioned

812
00:40:13.480 --> 00:40:16.480
<v Speaker 4>it my first year at Churchill, first triple crown winner

813
00:40:16.519 --> 00:40:18.280
<v Speaker 4>in a long time, and just you know how the

814
00:40:18.320 --> 00:40:19.960
<v Speaker 4>public responded to that moment.

815
00:40:20.920 --> 00:40:23.199
<v Speaker 2>Good stuff as always, Joe, great to catch up. We do.

816
00:40:23.280 --> 00:40:25.800
<v Speaker 2>We look forward to seeing you next Tuesday at Mike Lennox.

817
00:40:25.800 --> 00:40:26.679
<v Speaker 2>Thanks for your time, man.

818
00:40:27.639 --> 00:40:29.760
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, looking forward to it as we do every year,

819
00:40:29.800 --> 00:40:32.519
<v Speaker 4>Looking really forward to this event. It's very well put on.

820
00:40:33.000 --> 00:40:37.199
<v Speaker 4>We always get a great crowd and yeah, it's interactive.

821
00:40:37.239 --> 00:40:40.360
<v Speaker 4>We'll give good information and Jody and James are the best,

822
00:40:40.360 --> 00:40:42.800
<v Speaker 4>so looking forward to being a part of the panel

823
00:40:42.800 --> 00:40:43.159
<v Speaker 4>with them.

824
00:40:43.360 --> 00:40:45.280
<v Speaker 2>Yes, sir, good stuff Again. That is Joe christ Effect

825
00:40:45.280 --> 00:40:48.679
<v Speaker 2>who joins us yearly to promote this big event that

826
00:40:48.719 --> 00:40:50.519
<v Speaker 2>has become more and more popular over the years. Again,

827
00:40:50.519 --> 00:40:53.480
<v Speaker 2>it's the Derby Betting preview night April twenty second, of course,

828
00:40:53.519 --> 00:40:56.280
<v Speaker 2>coming up Tuesday, Mike Lennox seven and nine pm. Doors

829
00:40:56.320 --> 00:40:58.599
<v Speaker 2>will open up at six o'clock and you can get

830
00:40:58.599 --> 00:41:01.599
<v Speaker 2>information and the for to purchase those tickets is at

831
00:41:01.719 --> 00:41:07.280
<v Speaker 2>whas dot com. I remember the triple Crown winner. I

832
00:41:07.320 --> 00:41:09.719
<v Speaker 2>mean I remember thinking, okay, we'll have that's gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>something I'm gonna remember forever, which I do because it

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<v Speaker 2>was something when it happened we thought we'd never see

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<v Speaker 2>it ever, Like it was just there's no scenario this

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<v Speaker 2>could ever happen again, because it's just not realistic anymore

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<v Speaker 2>this day and age. And sure enough we got one

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<v Speaker 2>and then oh was it two three years later we

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<v Speaker 2>got another one.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, you had American Pharaoh and justifies right.

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<v Speaker 2>Good stuff. All right, speaking of good stuff, we'll try

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<v Speaker 2>to give you some good stuff here in the five

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<v Speaker 2>o'clock ir No promises, but we're gonna try our best,

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<v Speaker 2>so stick around right here on sport Stock seven ninety