1 00:00:04,679 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: Welcome back to Sasquatch Theory. In this episode, I sit 2 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:11,679 down with Roger from Iron County, Missouri to discuss an 3 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:14,240 encounter that has stayed with him for many years now. 4 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:19,239 During the summer of nineteen seventy five, Roger and several 5 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,679 friends were searching for a missing horse near Big Creek 6 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:26,719 near Annapolis when they came face to face with a 7 00:00:26,879 --> 00:00:32,320 towering creature standing in the darkness. Their horses immediately panicked, 8 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:37,119 refusing to go any closer. Roger states the creature was 9 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:40,200 around nine feet tall and he knows this was no 10 00:00:40,359 --> 00:00:44,320 human or known wildlife species. If you enjoy listening to 11 00:00:44,359 --> 00:00:47,280 Sasquatch Theory like the video, subscribe to the channel. And 12 00:00:47,439 --> 00:00:49,840 if you have a bigfoot or cryptid encounter you would 13 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:52,119 like to share here on Sasquatch Theory, feel free to 14 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:55,679 reach out sometime at Sasquatch Theory at outlook dot com. 15 00:00:56,039 --> 00:00:58,840 With all that being said, let's dive straight into Roger's 16 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:13,040 bigfoot encounter from the state of Missouri. Roger, Welcome to 17 00:01:13,079 --> 00:01:15,319 Sasquatch Theory. How are you doing today. 18 00:01:16,079 --> 00:01:17,719 Speaker 2: I'm doing fine good. 19 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:21,079 Speaker 1: It's an absolute pleasure to have you on the show. Roger. 20 00:01:21,079 --> 00:01:23,879 If you would tell me a little bit about yourself 21 00:01:24,079 --> 00:01:27,560 and your bigfoot encounters from the very beginning, please. 22 00:01:28,599 --> 00:01:30,439 Speaker 2: Okay, you said, the name is Roger. 23 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 3: I grew up in a little town called Balkan d 24 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:40,159 Ulc a n there in Missouri, south end of Iron County, 25 00:01:41,239 --> 00:01:43,239 pretty remote area, and. 26 00:01:44,719 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 2: This encounter took place in nineteen seventy five. 27 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:53,959 Speaker 3: And the kind of give you a background how it 28 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:58,920 let up to it was it was I lived about 29 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:00,200 a mile I guess. 30 00:02:00,079 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 2: From a creek there called Big Creek. And there was. 31 00:02:03,599 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 3: Probably five or six boys my age or close to 32 00:02:08,599 --> 00:02:11,800 my age, maybe a little older some of them. And 33 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:13,560 we had over on Big Creek. 34 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 2: We had a. 35 00:02:16,719 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 3: Directed a eight man tent saw them all over there, 36 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,759 and we had gotten slabs. This was in nineteen seventy four, 37 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:29,039 and we built this tables and I think there was 38 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:31,800 three of us had horses. We built a corral for them, 39 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:38,639 and so we spent i'll say the summers of seventy four, 40 00:02:38,719 --> 00:02:42,400 seventy five, and seventy six we spent. 41 00:02:42,159 --> 00:02:43,479 Speaker 2: Our camped out over there. 42 00:02:43,479 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 3: A lot stayed there, nice swimming hole over there and everything, 43 00:02:47,759 --> 00:02:50,520 and we. 44 00:02:53,319 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 2: I'm trying to think here there could be. 45 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:02,759 Speaker 3: I'll say sometimes we'd stay there two weeks in a 46 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:04,520 row and then some nights or maybe just be two 47 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:08,120 of us there, or maybe nobody or whatever. Just depends 48 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,360 on what you know. Kids are working and everything back 49 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:12,719 then or whatever, so or whatever we had to do. 50 00:03:13,719 --> 00:03:15,639 But a lot of nights there would be six of 51 00:03:15,719 --> 00:03:17,599 us over there, like I said, then there may be 52 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:21,400 two or whatever. But so anyway, that was seventy four 53 00:03:21,439 --> 00:03:24,039 and we stayed over there. Next summer we went back 54 00:03:25,719 --> 00:03:30,840 and there was three of us over there. I think 55 00:03:30,879 --> 00:03:33,080 it was the last week of July or maybe the 56 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:38,199 first week of August in seventy five. So there was 57 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:43,319 four of us camping out, and three of us had horses. 58 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:45,319 We had them in a corral. 59 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 2: That we built. 60 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:53,159 Speaker 3: And I'll say probably between twelve and two o'clock in 61 00:03:53,199 --> 00:03:58,960 the morning, my cousin Ronnie, who was staying with us, 62 00:03:59,719 --> 00:04:01,240 he had the horse and he got up to use 63 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:03,960 the restroom. He come back in and say, hey, my 64 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:08,919 horse is gone. And so, like I said, there was 65 00:04:08,919 --> 00:04:11,560 four of us. So three of us got up, the 66 00:04:11,599 --> 00:04:16,199 three had the horses. Another boy he got on his horse. 67 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:20,600 I sadd on mine up. So we rode out probably 68 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:22,839 a quarter a mile away there was two big fields. 69 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:26,519 We thought the horse may have gotten loose and went 70 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:30,240 to to eat or whatever. And one the one boy 71 00:04:30,319 --> 00:04:33,439 is with us, he stayed in the tent, so we 72 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:38,720 my cousin whose horse was missing, he got on with me. 73 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:41,879 We doubled up, and another friend saddled his horse up. 74 00:04:41,879 --> 00:04:45,560 And the county road split two big long fields. They're 75 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:49,399 probably three quarters of a mile one run. They run 76 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:52,879 north and south. So the one boy went on his horse. 77 00:04:53,439 --> 00:04:55,759 He went to the southern field, and my cousin and 78 00:04:55,759 --> 00:04:59,279 I who was doubled up with me, we turned and 79 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:02,160 went to the north will and on these fields we 80 00:05:03,079 --> 00:05:05,680 I mean we'd walked them. We rode our horses in them, 81 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:10,240 rode our bikes just we're very familiar with them. So 82 00:05:10,519 --> 00:05:14,439 we started up and we made it about uh, i'll say, 83 00:05:14,519 --> 00:05:18,199 half a mile. And like I said, it was a 84 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:22,160 full moon. It was close to daylight as you could 85 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:25,480 get you could you could see for a long distance. 86 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:32,240 And we had rode up and uh, we rode through 87 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:36,040 a little dip. The field had been bushogged, so it 88 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:39,199 was you know, grass and everything was rolled over or whatever. 89 00:05:40,199 --> 00:05:42,519 And there was a little wet weather creek that ran 90 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:45,279 through there that was dry, but we went down in 91 00:05:45,319 --> 00:05:47,439 it and come up and that that part of the 92 00:05:47,439 --> 00:05:50,759 field where we were coming up had not been bushogged, 93 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:54,800 but grass was maybe a foot high or whatever. And 94 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:58,399 when we come up out of the dip. Uh, this 95 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:02,639 all happened within a I looked and I seen this 96 00:06:03,519 --> 00:06:08,519 look like it was wow. It was like maybe nine 97 00:06:08,639 --> 00:06:11,839 or ten foot tall, huge silhouette. 98 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 2: I mean, the moon was kind. 99 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,519 Speaker 3: Of behind it, so I could not see any facial 100 00:06:17,519 --> 00:06:20,720 features or anything, but it was just a silhouette that 101 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:25,639 it looked like a large gorilla, you know. And so 102 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:29,079 I see it, and I'm thinking in my head, what 103 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:32,120 is that? My cousin who's doubled up with me on 104 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:35,319 the horse, he's leaning over my shoulder. He's like, what 105 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:39,800 the hell is that? And before he could get that out, 106 00:06:40,199 --> 00:06:42,480 my horse puts on the brakes and starts backing up 107 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:49,319 real quick, and we, uh, it's trying to turn around 108 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:52,199 and run my horses or whatever, and I could keep 109 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:54,720 throwing its head back, and I'm not going to turn 110 00:06:54,759 --> 00:06:56,839 my back on this thing, right, and. 111 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 2: So I'm trying. He's back up. 112 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 3: The horse is pretty fast and trying to throw his 113 00:07:03,639 --> 00:07:06,240 head around. We can turn around and get away from 114 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:09,600 whatever this is or whatever. And as he throws his 115 00:07:09,639 --> 00:07:13,439 head around, his eyes are just I mean, the biggest 116 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:15,079 you know, saucers or whatever. 117 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:16,839 Speaker 2: He's the horse is scared. 118 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 3: And uh, he finally backs around and I can't hold 119 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:23,920 him anymore, and he turns around and takes off running. 120 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:25,759 Speaker 2: And I got him. 121 00:07:25,959 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 3: It was pretty quick. I got him under control or whatever. 122 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:32,480 I'd had this horse since I was ten years old, 123 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:36,079 so you know, fourteen or fifteen at the time, and 124 00:07:38,319 --> 00:07:40,920 he wasn't He could be startled like any horse if 125 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:43,240 something jumped out or whatever, but he wasn't like spooky 126 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:45,120 where he couldn't get him under control or he would 127 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:48,079 just run away with him. You couldn't do anything. He 128 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:50,439 was on the verge or running away. I got him 129 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:54,600 under control or whatever. So we get back down and 130 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:56,600 the kid it went the other way on the horse. 131 00:07:56,639 --> 00:08:00,639 He come back and uh, we've seen. 132 00:08:00,399 --> 00:08:03,839 Speaker 2: Something out there. It's huge or whatever or whatever. 133 00:08:03,879 --> 00:08:09,279 Speaker 3: And of course we're we weren't terrified, but we were scared, 134 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:12,680 you know, seeing it or whatever. So we had rode 135 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:16,279 back over to the where the camp was or whatever. 136 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:20,079 Of course, we stayed up the rest of the night 137 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:22,279 or whatever and talk about what we've seen or whatever 138 00:08:22,319 --> 00:08:25,439 what we thought we saw. And uh so when it 139 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:30,160 got daylight, we all get on horses. Now there's four 140 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:33,519 of us, we go back up there, and uh, of 141 00:08:33,519 --> 00:08:35,519 course it was real dry. It was August or whatever. 142 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:39,080 You really couldn't tell if you know, footprints or something 143 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:41,200 had been through there or whatever, because we'd been riding 144 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:45,600 horses and everything through there or whatever. But we didn't 145 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:52,360 find any any tracks or anything like that. There was 146 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:57,679 nothing leading up to that event. Like I said, We've 147 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:00,240 been over there about a week, staying at the ten 148 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:05,720 or whatever, and the only thing was a boy came 149 00:09:05,759 --> 00:09:06,919 over ever once in a while and. 150 00:09:06,879 --> 00:09:08,519 Speaker 2: Stayed with us. He had a dog. 151 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:15,759 Speaker 3: Was supposedly his grandpa was from California, so he brought 152 00:09:15,759 --> 00:09:20,279 this German shepherd back from California and supposedly it was 153 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:24,120 a police dog that he had got or whatever. And 154 00:09:24,159 --> 00:09:27,240 the thing was vicious as dog was. I don't know 155 00:09:27,279 --> 00:09:28,919 if the story is true about being a police dog 156 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,200 or whatever, but the story is true about it being vicious. 157 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 2: I mean, he was so. 158 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:38,759 Speaker 3: Vicious as dog was that some of the local adults 159 00:09:38,799 --> 00:09:40,679 there had put a bounty out on this dog ten 160 00:09:40,759 --> 00:09:43,159 dollars for anybody who would kill it or whatever, and 161 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:45,240 somebody eventually did take him up on it. 162 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 2: I know that sounds a little cruel this day and 163 00:09:47,759 --> 00:09:48,720 age or whatever, but. 164 00:09:50,799 --> 00:09:53,639 Speaker 3: He did run a try to buy the girl on 165 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:55,960 a bike and the county road run by their house 166 00:09:56,039 --> 00:09:57,279 or whatever, and they wouldn't. 167 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 2: Change it up or put it on a leash or 168 00:09:58,399 --> 00:10:03,279 anything or pin it up. But he uh. 169 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,799 Speaker 3: Uh, so the dog run loose, and the dog when 170 00:10:06,799 --> 00:10:08,240 he come over, and he'd come over two or three 171 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:10,679 nights a week with the dog, and uh, the dog 172 00:10:10,759 --> 00:10:16,559 stayed outside the tent and he was always barking, you know, raccoon, possum, 173 00:10:16,639 --> 00:10:20,960 kyo or whatever, and uh, but uh, I never seen 174 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:22,320 the dog scared of anything. 175 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:25,399 Speaker 2: But I'll say three to four nights before this happened. 176 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 3: Uh, of course he stayed outside the tent. 177 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 2: We never let him in. 178 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 3: He uh, the dog was whining, he was scared to death. 179 00:10:35,279 --> 00:10:37,559 And of course he opened the tent up and the 180 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:39,039 dog came in with us and stayed there for the 181 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:42,039 rest of the nights. So that probably actually scared me 182 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:44,519 more than than what we saw that night or whatever. 183 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:48,519 So that's the only thing I can think of that, 184 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:51,440 you know, I mean there was like getting here a 185 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:53,440 howl or anything, throwing. 186 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 2: Rocks at us or wolves or anything like that. And I. 187 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 3: When we sing the thing, you know, I couldn't I 188 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:08,519 couldn't tell you. You know, people see their eyes and mouth 189 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:11,399 and you know description like that. I could see none 190 00:11:11,399 --> 00:11:14,200 of that. It was just a silhouette because of the 191 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:18,120 way the moon was. And uh, but I mean it 192 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:24,600 was huge. I know, sitting on my horse, yuh had 193 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:26,639 a basketball go there, I could, I could dunk a 194 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:30,559 basketball off my horse. So I'm probably you know, eight 195 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:32,440 foot tall sitting up on the horse or whatever. 196 00:11:33,879 --> 00:11:35,559 Speaker 2: And I had to look up. It was. The thing 197 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:40,799 was just massive, and it was it was cannona a 198 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:41,519 little bit too. 199 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:45,399 Speaker 3: Its left I guess, like it turned to look at 200 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:49,120 us or something like that. But uh, I never seen it. 201 00:11:49,399 --> 00:11:54,679 Uh never seen its arms moved, head were just like 202 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:56,679 they said, standing there looking at us or whatever. And 203 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:01,600 of course I'm trying to control the horse or whatever 204 00:12:02,039 --> 00:12:05,559 and keep eyes on it. So just a kind of 205 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:10,320 a brief encounter or whatever. But uh, that's basically it. 206 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:12,039 Like I said, We went back the next day, and 207 00:12:12,279 --> 00:12:15,559 of course we went down by the creek where we're 208 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:18,159 staying We walked all up and down that looking for tracks. 209 00:12:18,759 --> 00:12:21,000 It's gravel, you know, there wasn't a lot of soft 210 00:12:21,039 --> 00:12:25,000 ground or whatever. We didn't find anything. It was soft ground. 211 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:33,799 And uh that's I mean, that's basically it. But uh, 212 00:12:34,879 --> 00:12:37,879 I mean I have no I have no doubt. I 213 00:12:37,879 --> 00:12:40,000 mean I've been in the woods my whole life with 214 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:44,480 my dad. Everybody, you know, coon hunted around there. We 215 00:12:44,519 --> 00:12:48,320 want fishing and gigging, always out at night, playing around 216 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:52,759 or whatever. And I know a lot of people, you know, 217 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:55,879 they they're trying to they see something. They want to 218 00:12:55,919 --> 00:12:58,000 make it a big foot. My cousin and I were 219 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:01,200 like trying to make it not a big foot. 220 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:01,639 Speaker 2: You know. 221 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 3: We'd rode back up there and there was a little 222 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:06,480 locus street there or whatever, and he goes, man, maybe 223 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:10,519 that's what we saw or whatever, Like you know, man, 224 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:12,159 it was taller than us or whatever. He goes, yeah, 225 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:16,399 I know. But you know, everybody's gonna, uh, I think 226 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:18,559 we're crazy. We told me we saw a big foot 227 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:21,879 or whatever, and we had lived here that uh. You know, 228 00:13:21,879 --> 00:13:25,600 you had a lot of UFO activity in the Piedmont 229 00:13:25,639 --> 00:13:29,399 and Claire Water Lake area back for seventy two to 230 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:33,320 seventy four. So we My cousin, he was a little 231 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:35,240 he's pretty mature for his age at the time. He 232 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:38,639 was like he was fifteen. Maybe he goes, you know, 233 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:40,879 everybody's gonna think we're crazy if we you know, we 234 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:43,440 just need to keep this to ourselves or whatever. And 235 00:13:44,279 --> 00:13:46,799 you remember all those people that seen on the UFOs, 236 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:49,240 everybody thinks they're nuts or whatever, which you know, Clare 237 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:51,840 Lake was just twenty miles down the road or whatever. 238 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 2: So I mean we told a few people. 239 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:57,559 Speaker 3: Or whatever, and sure enough, you know, oh yeah, the 240 00:13:57,639 --> 00:14:00,440 big the big foot hunters and everything and kind of 241 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:01,159 made fun of us. 242 00:14:01,159 --> 00:14:02,799 Speaker 2: And I mean it really wasn't no big deal. 243 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 3: But I mean we just kind of sat down at 244 00:14:06,039 --> 00:14:07,919 the rest of our lives or whatever it's to cease now. 245 00:14:08,039 --> 00:14:13,679 But I uh, never I never seen anything before that. 246 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:21,279 Nothing after uh set around. Like I said, a lot 247 00:14:21,279 --> 00:14:24,720 of campfires. Listen, guys that live there are their whole lives, 248 00:14:24,759 --> 00:14:28,480 older men or whatever. As a kid, never heard any 249 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:30,519 of them, you know, talk about seeing something out in 250 00:14:30,559 --> 00:14:34,799 the woods or anything. You know, it was a little 251 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:37,559 bigfoot or story about a big foot or anything like that. 252 00:14:37,679 --> 00:14:40,159 So I said, we were trying to talk ourselves out 253 00:14:40,159 --> 00:14:42,320 of seeing and not talking ourselves into seeing. 254 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:42,679 Speaker 2: It or whatever. 255 00:14:42,759 --> 00:14:46,159 Speaker 3: But yeah, like I said, I can I can remember 256 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:48,559 it like it was happened thirty minutes ago. 257 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 2: Man, just there was no doubt. I don't know what 258 00:14:51,919 --> 00:14:55,159 it was. It had the silhouette of you know, what we. 259 00:14:56,639 --> 00:14:58,919 Speaker 3: Call a bigfoot or whatever we think wouldn't look like 260 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:02,360 or whatever, but it was. It was wide, it was tall, 261 00:15:05,039 --> 00:15:07,320 it was dead calm that night, the wind or whatever. 262 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:10,559 Speaker 2: I got no smell from it. They didn't growl at us. 263 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:10,840 It did. 264 00:15:11,679 --> 00:15:13,639 Speaker 3: It didn't do anything to terrify me. 265 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 2: You know. 266 00:15:14,679 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 3: I know for stories of people that I'm not going 267 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:20,960 back in the woods ever again or whatever, but I 268 00:15:21,039 --> 00:15:21,960 never had any of that. 269 00:15:22,679 --> 00:15:23,919 Speaker 2: Like I said, it did scare me. 270 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:27,799 Speaker 3: But uh, I never had any of that where it 271 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:31,120 was terrified or refused to go back or whatever. But 272 00:15:31,679 --> 00:15:34,399 you know, every time I drive by her anymore, I 273 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:35,120 do think about it. 274 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, I can see that. Had anyone in 275 00:15:39,759 --> 00:15:43,360 your group ever talked about strange things happening around Big 276 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:45,000 Creek before this encounter? 277 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:50,279 Speaker 3: Now, No, that's like I said, we were over there 278 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:54,840 all the time. I mean, uh, my whole life, I 279 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:57,759 was over there eve before we started camping out and 280 00:15:57,759 --> 00:16:02,759 stuff over there. And the only thing, like I said, 281 00:16:02,919 --> 00:16:05,080 I probably lived a mile and a half where my 282 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:10,039 house was from the camp there and my mother and 283 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:13,919 dad's house there. It was it set up. If you 284 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:16,440 went south from there you could probably go through the 285 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:19,840 woods behind her house you would go to your rent 286 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:24,799 into Gadshill, Missouri, down there, or if you went west 287 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:27,039 of there, it's probably four or five miles over to 288 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:29,759 the Black River or whatever, all woods, nobody back there 289 00:16:29,799 --> 00:16:34,519 or whatever. My mother had said. I vaguely remember this. 290 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:37,960 I was probably four or five. My uncle had let 291 00:16:38,039 --> 00:16:40,399 us out at the house that night. Didn't have a car, 292 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:44,919 and when we got in the house, she thought like 293 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:47,399 rocks were hitting the roof or whatever, so she thought 294 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:50,919 it was somebody out there doing it or whatever. And 295 00:16:51,159 --> 00:16:52,919 I don't I don't remember the rocks at the house 296 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:53,320 or anything. 297 00:16:53,399 --> 00:16:54,519 Speaker 2: I just remember. 298 00:16:56,039 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 3: Her telling my dad he wasn't there when he when 299 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:01,879 he got h he was working in Saint Louis. But 300 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:06,359 when he come back down that, uh she thought somebody 301 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:07,720 was after throwing rocks on the. 302 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 2: Roof for whatever. And uh. 303 00:17:10,279 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 3: And I can't remember, if you know, if he got 304 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:14,160 up there and found rocks on the roof or anything 305 00:17:14,279 --> 00:17:17,240 like that. I really never asked him about it or 306 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:21,240 whether that's the only thing that I can think of that. 307 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:24,200 You know, you know, you hear stories of them throwing 308 00:17:24,279 --> 00:17:27,519 rocks and stuff that I can kind of tie into that. 309 00:17:27,599 --> 00:17:31,519 Speaker 1: But oh yeah, rock throwing is a common report. Now, 310 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:35,799 do you believe the sasquatch were orbiting around your guys's 311 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:40,240 camp and that's possibly why the horse went missing? Like 312 00:17:40,319 --> 00:17:41,839 it it took off out of fear. 313 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 3: No, I don't think so. Uh, because, uh, his horse 314 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:52,039 is a pretty good horse. Mine was a real good horse. 315 00:17:52,079 --> 00:17:53,759 Now the other boy he had one, it was real 316 00:17:53,839 --> 00:17:57,759 high spirited. It gets spooked pretty easy. I think it 317 00:17:57,759 --> 00:18:01,160 would have it would have ran through the hour, done something. 318 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:04,720 And like I said, the actually the horse. 319 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 2: Uh of course. 320 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:08,880 Speaker 3: We rode up there the next day before he went 321 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:11,880 home to look trying to find out what we saw 322 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:15,920 or whatever. But he was probably he left two miles 323 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:19,039 from there, and the horse had just had a lead 324 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:21,079 rope on and he went home and it was standing 325 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:24,319 in the front yard eat grass. So I think it 326 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:26,559 just got loose and he got home. 327 00:18:26,799 --> 00:18:27,400 Speaker 2: He went home. 328 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:31,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, he knew he knew the road home and uh so. 329 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:34,799 Speaker 2: And how I mean it was that? Go ahead? 330 00:18:35,079 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 1: How far away was the Sasquatch from the camp site? 331 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:42,440 Speaker 3: Well, the way crow flies if you went through there, 332 00:18:42,519 --> 00:18:46,519 it probably wasn't maybe two hundred and fifty yards. 333 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 1: Oh wow, that's pretty close. And wasn't that area still 334 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:52,200 by the creek? Big creek? 335 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 2: It was it? 336 00:18:54,319 --> 00:18:56,519 Speaker 3: I mean it was I don't know, it's probably twenty 337 00:18:56,559 --> 00:18:59,160 five yards where we camped to the creek itself, the 338 00:18:59,559 --> 00:19:03,920 real thick woods if you want, you know, straight from 339 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:06,559 the camp noal thick woods and then it come out 340 00:19:06,599 --> 00:19:09,359 in those fields. But we had to ride around probably 341 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:11,000 half a mile to get to that area. 342 00:19:12,039 --> 00:19:13,160 Speaker 2: The way the road went. 343 00:19:15,759 --> 00:19:18,039 Speaker 3: So but that we just went straight through the woods 344 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:21,759 is maybe maybe two and fifty yards that's where we 345 00:19:21,759 --> 00:19:22,319 we saw it. 346 00:19:23,279 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, And would you say the like was it a 347 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:32,200 full moon or like like partially like a new moon 348 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:35,440 or waxing crescent? Like how would you describe the moon? 349 00:19:35,559 --> 00:19:36,400 Can you remember it? 350 00:19:37,279 --> 00:19:37,519 Speaker 2: Well? 351 00:19:37,599 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 3: It was full. I don't know it was completely full 352 00:19:40,319 --> 00:19:42,640 or not, But like I said, it was it was 353 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:44,640 as close to the daylight as you could get out there. 354 00:19:44,759 --> 00:19:46,559 You know, it's you know, you've been out there in 355 00:19:46,599 --> 00:19:50,319 those nights where you could just see forever or whatever, or. 356 00:19:50,519 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 2: You know, see a long ways. 357 00:19:52,279 --> 00:19:59,759 Speaker 3: And uh, like I said, there was there was several 358 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:03,119 trees up and through up through there and everything that 359 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:05,279 we rode by and everything that I mean, you could 360 00:20:05,319 --> 00:20:08,160 you could you can make it out make out it was. 361 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 2: A tree just you know, our yards away or whatever 362 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:11,599 it was. 363 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:14,279 Speaker 3: It was that it was that light, and like I said, 364 00:20:14,279 --> 00:20:16,359 when we were riding through, it just recently been bush 365 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:19,319 hogged off, so very very clear of the fields and everything. 366 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:27,640 Speaker 2: But I mean I remember the you know the you 367 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:28,440 know they say they. 368 00:20:28,279 --> 00:20:31,640 Speaker 3: Walked through and you know, crickets and the frogs and 369 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:35,319 everything stops turpling and whatever that that that wasn't the case. 370 00:20:35,839 --> 00:20:38,519 You know, everything was just alive that night, you know, 371 00:20:38,599 --> 00:20:40,079 out in the woods or whatever. 372 00:20:41,519 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 2: Uh. But like I said, nothing to give me any 373 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:47,079 indication that there there you. 374 00:20:47,039 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 3: Know, something was going on up there that just like 375 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:51,519 we we had rode up on it and it was 376 00:20:51,799 --> 00:20:55,079 coming through the field or whatever, and it's almost like 377 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:56,480 we startled each other or whatever. 378 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:01,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe the Sasquatch thought you guys were a herd 379 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:05,519 of deer because it heard four legs instead of two. 380 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:09,680 Speaker 3: That could have been, but uh, yeah, I don't know. 381 00:21:10,039 --> 00:21:12,880 Speaker 2: Uh, I don't. I don't remember us. 382 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 3: I mean we were probably talking a little bit down 383 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:17,759 to the end of the field and we're gonna do this, 384 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:19,720 that we'll meet back here or whatever with the other 385 00:21:19,799 --> 00:21:24,720 kid or whatever. I mean the first he wasn't hollering 386 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:26,480 for the horse or anything. We were just you know, 387 00:21:26,559 --> 00:21:28,480 as she was out there, we could have saw he 388 00:21:28,559 --> 00:21:33,559 or whatever. We knew that, so yeah, I could have 389 00:21:33,599 --> 00:21:36,559 been though, I mean walking we weren't really talking that 390 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:37,200 much or whatever. 391 00:21:37,279 --> 00:21:39,400 Speaker 2: There's no wind for smell or anything like that. 392 00:21:41,599 --> 00:21:46,200 Speaker 1: And before the sighting, where the horses calm before the 393 00:21:46,319 --> 00:21:49,240 encounter or did they give you any sign that something 394 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:49,720 was off? 395 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:54,400 Speaker 3: Uh no, I mean when you're in the crowd over there, 396 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:59,680 Like I said, I the one just she got on 397 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:01,599 tired or whatever and just walked home or whatever. And 398 00:22:01,599 --> 00:22:04,640 the other horses they were they weren't spooky or anything. 399 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:06,960 There was nothing going on with them. They were still there. 400 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 2: Uh. 401 00:22:09,559 --> 00:22:11,160 Speaker 3: And when we were riding up through the field, I 402 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:14,359 mean I saw it, my cousin saw it, and the 403 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,720 horse all saw it at the same time. I mean, 404 00:22:16,799 --> 00:22:20,000 just like I said, within a second, and uh, like 405 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:21,519 I said, I had the horse since I was ten 406 00:22:21,599 --> 00:22:24,519 years old. She's like any other horse or something would 407 00:22:24,559 --> 00:22:28,440 jump out, it might startle her or startle him, but 408 00:22:28,519 --> 00:22:31,599 he never never got spooked and ran away. You know, 409 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:35,400 if a dog come out barking or whatever, shoot, he 410 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,559 tried to kick it or stop it or whatever. He did, 411 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,319 you know, But I mean I rode over black snakes 412 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,759 with him, and he just I mean, I mean, I 413 00:22:42,799 --> 00:22:44,799 never rode over poison a snake with him anything that 414 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:49,039 I know of. But snakes across the road didn't bother him. 415 00:22:50,079 --> 00:22:52,039 Dogs to come out at him, like I said, he'd 416 00:22:52,279 --> 00:22:53,359 defend himself or whatever. 417 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 2: He wasn't spooky or anything. And uh, he's just like. 418 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 3: He was little spooked that night. 419 00:23:01,079 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 1: So how close were you to the sasquatch creature? 420 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:12,519 Speaker 2: I'm thinking ten fifteen yards. 421 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:15,039 Speaker 1: Maybe, Okay, so it was super close. 422 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there was. 423 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 3: It looked like a silhouette of you know, you see 424 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,440 these people come out these wooden't I hadn't seen one 425 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:26,680 at that time or whatever, but you see them now, 426 00:23:27,319 --> 00:23:29,920 you know how people put them in their yards, cut 427 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:33,599 out or whatever. A silhouette of a bigfoot. It was, 428 00:23:33,759 --> 00:23:37,519 like I said, it was I was you know, nine 429 00:23:37,599 --> 00:23:40,400 or ten foot tall at least, and I don't know, 430 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:44,480 man three or four foot it was. I remember being 431 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:48,519 more impressed with how white it was than how tall 432 00:23:48,559 --> 00:23:53,799 it was, you know, just the I couldn't I couldn't 433 00:23:53,839 --> 00:23:55,799 make out any hair on it or anything like that. 434 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,160 Just a silhouette. But it was. It was just a 435 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:03,799 perfect silhouette against the moon there of you know, you 436 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,000 had to cut one out what you think it would 437 00:24:06,039 --> 00:24:06,400 look like? 438 00:24:07,319 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 1: Yeah? And did you notice any eye shine from the creature? 439 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,799 Speaker 3: I did not, because we were riding the moon would 440 00:24:14,799 --> 00:24:17,759 have been kind of behind it, uh so that you know, 441 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:21,000 it was casting a shadow towards us, So I did. 442 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:21,440 Speaker 2: I didn't. 443 00:24:21,519 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 3: I couldn't make out a facial feature, eyes, or you know, 444 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,920 how muscular it was or anything like that. It just 445 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:35,000 like it just there was obviously it had arms and 446 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,680 you know, long legs and was white and tall, but 447 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,240 anything else I could not make out on it. 448 00:24:41,799 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 1: Okay, And what's the closest town to the creek you 449 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:46,559 were camping in. 450 00:24:48,079 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 3: Oh, the closest town you would have had it had Annapolis, 451 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:56,759 which would have been about you know, maybe four or 452 00:24:56,759 --> 00:25:00,640 five miles north of there. And then the Town Desert, 453 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,039 which is about three miles south of there. 454 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 2: Wow. 455 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's been more water reports south of Annapolis. 456 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:10,640 Speaker 2: Oh really mm hmm, Yeah. 457 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,079 Speaker 1: I've had several on my channel. 458 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:19,640 Speaker 3: But uh, like I said, never never seen nothing leading 459 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:23,880 nothing to that, And I've never you know, I uh, 460 00:25:24,559 --> 00:25:27,799 twenty some years I elk hunted the Rockies in the 461 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:33,920 pretty remote area out there, never seen anything, encounters with bears. 462 00:25:33,519 --> 00:25:34,400 Speaker 2: And stuff out there. 463 00:25:34,559 --> 00:25:37,200 Speaker 3: So yeah, like I said, I know how you can 464 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:41,920 see something and try to make it something, but uh yeah, 465 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:43,960 like I've seen a lot of bears and stuff out 466 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:45,640 there and never thought there were anything but a bear. 467 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:52,400 And just so I guess that the thing has struck 468 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,200 me as like my cousin and I were just we 469 00:25:55,279 --> 00:25:57,519 tried to talk ourselves out of it, not into it, 470 00:25:57,599 --> 00:26:00,079 you know, just just any any way we went that 471 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,519 we could No, yeah I couldn't. 472 00:26:04,079 --> 00:26:05,079 Speaker 2: It was something you know. 473 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 1: Oh yeah for sure. And that area is it core 474 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:15,559 of engineer Land? Do you know? 475 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,799 Speaker 3: No, No, it's all it's all private land there. 476 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 2: Private Uh yeah. If you went. 477 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:25,680 Speaker 3: Five miles west of the already running the Black River, 478 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,160 where's core land? So this was not. 479 00:26:30,079 --> 00:26:33,880 Speaker 1: And what's your theory about what these beings. Are these creatures? 480 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,680 Do you think there's a connection to the clear Water 481 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:41,119 Lake UFO encounters. Do you think it's some sort of 482 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,440 unknown primate. What are your thoughts about that? 483 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:46,599 Speaker 2: You know, I don't know. 484 00:26:46,839 --> 00:26:52,440 Speaker 3: I really don't, uh, I uh. I've talked to enough. 485 00:26:52,519 --> 00:26:54,519 I mean, I think they're out there. 486 00:26:54,559 --> 00:26:54,880 Speaker 2: I do. 487 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:59,519 Speaker 3: I've actually work with a guy right now who is 488 00:27:00,319 --> 00:27:05,200 raised in Montana and moved to Oregon. A little organ 489 00:27:05,559 --> 00:27:09,559 and him and his dad rode a motorcycle up on 490 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:14,279 a family of them you now, and a male female 491 00:27:14,319 --> 00:27:17,279 and a little one within fifteen yards of him and 492 00:27:18,039 --> 00:27:20,359 terrified his dad so bad that he's never went back 493 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,599 in the woods. He was ten years old when he 494 00:27:22,839 --> 00:27:26,799 saw it, And like I said, he's a straight shooting guy. 495 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,480 I have no doubt, you know, I know what I 496 00:27:29,599 --> 00:27:33,599 saw a couple other people. But as far as me 497 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,799 having a theory on it, I don't know if I've 498 00:27:36,839 --> 00:27:38,960 got a theory. I'm just I believe her out there 499 00:27:39,039 --> 00:27:42,599 or whatever. I don't know. 500 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 1: And were you guys prepared to defend yourself in case 501 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:48,720 this creature charged you? 502 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:51,559 Speaker 2: No, he had no. 503 00:27:51,759 --> 00:27:53,519 Speaker 3: I mean that was the last thing on my mind, 504 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:57,200 is seeing something like that. I mean, I think we 505 00:27:57,279 --> 00:27:58,920 had a probably a couple of twenty two rifles over 506 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:00,759 there in the tent or whatever. I mean, we didn't 507 00:28:00,759 --> 00:28:05,960 take them with us or anything. No thought of you know, 508 00:28:06,319 --> 00:28:10,519 encountering something like that or or anything, you know that 509 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,039 being out there. Just we did it all the time, 510 00:28:14,519 --> 00:28:16,559 never had no issues, you know, rode around at night 511 00:28:18,759 --> 00:28:21,799 over there all the time. So I just, yeah, I 512 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:23,599 don't you know, I did the charges or whatever. I 513 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:25,079 don't know what I had done. I guess I would 514 00:28:25,079 --> 00:28:26,440 to let the horse go. I hope we could out 515 00:28:26,519 --> 00:28:26,720 run it. 516 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:32,039 Speaker 1: Yeah, And you were trying to keep the horse steady 517 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,079 facing forward so you can get a better look at 518 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:38,240 this creature. But the horse was trying to turn you around, correct. 519 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:40,039 Speaker 2: That is correct. I. 520 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 3: So we just came up out of a dip, and 521 00:28:42,839 --> 00:28:44,480 of course the horse he was starting to back up 522 00:28:44,519 --> 00:28:46,640 real quick, and he's trying to throw his head around 523 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:52,200 to get around and run. And I don't think I 524 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,400 was holding him trying to get a better look. I 525 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,720 was just kind of scared to turn my you know, 526 00:28:57,839 --> 00:29:01,279 back on this thing. So when he started backing up 527 00:29:01,319 --> 00:29:03,720 real quick, we went back down in the dip, and 528 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,240 you know, he almost fell down with us, and uh, 529 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,200 and he kept on his set around and I finally 530 00:29:09,319 --> 00:29:10,599 just you know, let him go. 531 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 2: And he turned around and. 532 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 3: I don't know, probably ran fifty yards or whatever, and uh, 533 00:29:17,599 --> 00:29:19,640 hading my cousin on the back. I didn't want to 534 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,240 throw him off or whatever, but got him, got him 535 00:29:22,279 --> 00:29:23,799 under control real quick. Like I said, it was a 536 00:29:23,799 --> 00:29:26,559 real good horse or whatever. But he never was really 537 00:29:26,599 --> 00:29:28,640 out of control. He would just want to get away 538 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:29,400 from whatever it was. 539 00:29:30,559 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, it sounds like a good horse. He didn't try 540 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,200 to buck you guys off, and he was just trying 541 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,839 to steer you guys away from the danger. 542 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess he was. Whatever it was, he didn't 543 00:29:41,359 --> 00:29:44,559 he didn't want nothing to do with it. So and yeah, 544 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,759 I said, if he had, if he hadn't backed up, 545 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,759 I don't stood there or whatever. I don't know what 546 00:29:50,839 --> 00:29:53,920 we would have done. So yeah, I kind of wish 547 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:58,720 you wouldn't have seen seen him move or or or whatever. 548 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:00,680 Got a better look maybe, I don't know. I don't 549 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:01,799 know if we could have got a better look. We 550 00:30:01,839 --> 00:30:03,200 didn't have a light with us or anything. 551 00:30:03,359 --> 00:30:08,519 Speaker 1: So oh yeah, and horses have really good eyesight, correct. 552 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:10,039 Speaker 3: You know? 553 00:30:11,319 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so it's probably better in human eyes 554 00:30:13,319 --> 00:30:13,880 or whatever, but. 555 00:30:15,799 --> 00:30:16,599 Speaker 3: No doubt he saw it. 556 00:30:16,759 --> 00:30:21,519 Speaker 1: So oh yeah for sure. And looking back, is there 557 00:30:21,519 --> 00:30:24,119 anything you wish you would have done differently? 558 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean obviously, you know, I'm never Doug. 559 00:30:33,279 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 3: Well, you know, if we should have taken a flashlight 560 00:30:35,079 --> 00:30:37,200 with us or whatever looking for his horse or whatever. 561 00:30:38,279 --> 00:30:41,119 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean I can't. 562 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 3: I can't think of anything that you always wish, you know, 563 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,359 I've got a better look at it, whatever, you know, 564 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,559 But I don't. I don't think there's anything we could 565 00:30:49,599 --> 00:30:52,240 have done any different under the circumstances. 566 00:30:53,039 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 2: Or whatever. 567 00:30:53,759 --> 00:30:59,599 Speaker 1: So yeah, and you didn't notice any activity back at 568 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:04,039 the camp after the encounter. They didn't come and like 569 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,960 follow you back to camp, throw rocks at you anything 570 00:31:07,079 --> 00:31:08,880 like that. Nothing strange, Yeah. 571 00:31:09,519 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 3: Nothing strange. Like I said, we were we were up 572 00:31:11,759 --> 00:31:14,680 the rest of the night after that, till till morning 573 00:31:14,799 --> 00:31:17,160 or whatever. And there was I mean, the horse, We 574 00:31:17,559 --> 00:31:19,960 got the two horses back in the We had a 575 00:31:20,039 --> 00:31:23,359 little crowd built or whatever. And yeah, they never you know, 576 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,160 they weren't spooky or nothing going on with them. It 577 00:31:26,359 --> 00:31:31,039 was like a normal night for him or whatever. And 578 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:32,839 like I said, the boy that had had the dog 579 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:33,319 or whatever. 580 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 2: He was not over there that night, so I kind 581 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,160 of wish that he might have been over there or 582 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:39,200 whatever see what happened. 583 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:40,559 Speaker 3: But uh. 584 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 2: So I don't. I don't know. 585 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 3: That's I don't know what we'd have done different, could 586 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,839 have done different or whatever. With's what we knew was 587 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:49,720 going on and everything. 588 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:53,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, and how did the creature acknowledge your presence? Did 589 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,200 it just stand there? And did it take off? 590 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 2: Well, it just it just stood there. And like I said, 591 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:00,279 it was it was canned a little bit, so it's 592 00:32:00,359 --> 00:32:03,240 left almost like it was. It turned to look at us, 593 00:32:03,799 --> 00:32:05,039 but I did not see it turned. 594 00:32:05,119 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 3: Now, it was like he had seen us before we 595 00:32:07,839 --> 00:32:11,279 had seen him the way it looked to me or whatever. 596 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:17,880 And but I mean, no, I didn't see it move. 597 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,319 I didn't see its head moves, its feet, its arms 598 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,440 or anything. It was just like it was frozen there 599 00:32:24,559 --> 00:32:29,880 or whatever. And of course, you know, I probably didn't 600 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:33,279 get a maybe two to three seconds where I had 601 00:32:33,519 --> 00:32:35,799 eyes locked on up for the horse got around on 602 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,680 me or whatever, so I didn't have a lot of 603 00:32:38,759 --> 00:32:40,599 time to observe it. 604 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, And did you guys end up telling other family 605 00:32:46,279 --> 00:32:47,960 members or friends after that? 606 00:32:49,119 --> 00:32:52,039 Speaker 3: We told a couple of friends or whatever. And you know, 607 00:32:52,319 --> 00:32:54,960 like I said, there, I think I did tell my 608 00:32:55,079 --> 00:32:56,039 dad and. 609 00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:58,039 Speaker 2: Or whatever. 610 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:02,279 Speaker 3: And I don't think I have used the word we 611 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,680 thought we saw bigfoot, we saw something big over there 612 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,599 at the creek or whatever. And I mean he grew 613 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:10,640 up there too, so he didn't think nothing about it. 614 00:33:11,119 --> 00:33:14,559 And uh, of course Clarke said a couple of friends like, oh, 615 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:16,240 the big foot hunters and stuff like that. 616 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:17,839 Speaker 2: My cousin, That's what he said. 617 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 3: Man, It's just that's just tell him we've seen a 618 00:33:20,799 --> 00:33:24,599 trade or whatever, and uh, keep them, keep them off 619 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,720 of us or whatever. So and I talked about it 620 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,839 a few times over years or whatever. Course, like I said, 621 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:31,759 he's de ceased. 622 00:33:31,519 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 2: Now, and uh never never, never was no big deal 623 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:40,160 around there, a big story or anything. 624 00:33:40,319 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 1: So and what made you decide to open up about 625 00:33:44,279 --> 00:33:46,079 this encounter and share it publicly. 626 00:33:47,079 --> 00:33:50,799 Speaker 3: Well, i'd seen your h your YouTube channel there or whatever, 627 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:55,279 and and uh, yeah, a lot of people in southeastern 628 00:33:55,279 --> 00:33:57,160 Missouri there and you know, over on the Current River 629 00:33:57,279 --> 00:33:59,480 and some of the counties there. I'm like, oh, yeah, 630 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:01,799 I know where that's and this and that, and and 631 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:03,599 I just told my wife, I said, you know, I'm 632 00:34:03,599 --> 00:34:07,359 gonna said that boy an email and if he wants 633 00:34:07,359 --> 00:34:11,159 to hear this story or whatever. So I said it, 634 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,800 I don't think it's exciting as some of those I've 635 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:17,159 seen or whatever. And uh, like I said, I don't 636 00:34:17,159 --> 00:34:19,280 have a lot of detail on it or whatever, but uh, 637 00:34:20,119 --> 00:34:23,400 and I have no doubt you know that, you know, 638 00:34:23,519 --> 00:34:26,039 looking back, that's what it was or whatever, And I 639 00:34:26,159 --> 00:34:30,159 mean it was. I just I just even at that time, 640 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,320 at fourteen, I'd been out in the woods enough hunting 641 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,159 and fishing out there in the dark and everything that 642 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:37,480 you know, I know, your eyes can play tricks on 643 00:34:37,599 --> 00:34:41,840 you or whatever. And I knew my horse, you know, 644 00:34:42,559 --> 00:34:45,119 like I said, my cousin whatever, we all seen it, 645 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:49,320 you know, or whatever. But I just, like I said, basically, 646 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,440 seeing your channel, they're kind of interested way you do 647 00:34:52,519 --> 00:34:55,239 your stories there in Missouri or whatever. So that's that's 648 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:55,760 what made me. 649 00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:56,400 Speaker 2: Decide to do it. 650 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm glad you found the channel and you also 651 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:04,280 found reports in the area, and yeah, it's not every 652 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,239 day that somebody from Missouri contacts me, so I'm definitely 653 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,199 grateful that you found the channel and you were willing 654 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,280 to talk about it. I know, there's a lot more 655 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,159 people out there, but a lot of them they don't 656 00:35:15,159 --> 00:35:17,719 want to talk about it. Like your friend said, let's 657 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:18,679 just say it was a tree. 658 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:26,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, but yeah I said, Like I said, 659 00:35:26,559 --> 00:35:28,519 I wish I had some more. 660 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,639 Speaker 3: Detail about it and some other stuff would happened, but 661 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:34,440 that's just the way it happened. 662 00:35:37,079 --> 00:35:40,039 Speaker 1: That's about it, all right, Roger, Well, you did an 663 00:35:40,039 --> 00:35:43,519 excellent job at documenting the report, and it was truly 664 00:35:43,599 --> 00:35:47,679 a fascinating one. Horses or intelligent creatures, they'll definitely try 665 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,199 to protect their their owners or the people that are 666 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,199 riding them. And I definitely feel like that's what you 667 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,440 encountered that night. You were fifteen yards away. The creature 668 00:35:56,679 --> 00:36:00,360 was nine foot tall, and like you said, the moon 669 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,280 was out and you could see outside. 670 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 2: Yeah I did. Like I said, I have no doubt 671 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:06,719 that's what it. 672 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:07,320 Speaker 3: Was or whatever. 673 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,360 Speaker 1: But yeah, they don't make people that big. 674 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,239 Speaker 2: Nope, they don't. Yeah. 675 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,039 Speaker 1: All right, Well, I'm gonna let you go for now. 676 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,199 If you encounter anything else in the future, feel free 677 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:21,760 to reach. 678 00:36:21,599 --> 00:36:24,679 Speaker 2: Out, okay, man, Well, I appreciate the call. 679 00:36:25,079 --> 00:36:27,360 Speaker 1: All right, I appreciate you all. 680 00:36:27,519 --> 00:36:28,199 Speaker 2: We'll talk to you later. 681 00:36:28,679 --> 00:36:37,719 Speaker 1: Sailor. I want to thank Roger for taking the time 682 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,039 to come on the channel and share an experience that 683 00:36:40,119 --> 00:36:43,360 has stayed with him for decades. Whether you believe these 684 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:48,000 encounters are evidence of an undiscovered species or something else entirely, 685 00:36:48,559 --> 00:36:51,920 stories like this continue to raise interesting questions about what 686 00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:57,280 may exist in the remote forest of Missouri. I think 687 00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:00,639 Roger and the horses were extremely curious as to what 688 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,840 they were observing, but I feel like the sasquatch was 689 00:37:04,119 --> 00:37:08,480 just as curious and this show's intelligence because the sasquatch 690 00:37:08,599 --> 00:37:12,760 creature could have easily attacked them and it didn't. It 691 00:37:13,119 --> 00:37:18,480 chose to just stand there and observe. If you've had 692 00:37:18,519 --> 00:37:20,960 a similar experience and we'd like to share your story, 693 00:37:21,039 --> 00:37:23,880 you can reach me at Sasquatch Theory at outlook dot com. 694 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:27,599 As always, thank you for watching Stay Safe in the Woods, 695 00:37:28,039 --> 00:37:30,039 and I'll see you in the next episode.