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<v Speaker 1>This episode maintained content of a graphic nature, including descriptions

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<v Speaker 1>of physical and sexual violence against adults, children, and animals.

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<v Speaker 1>Listener discretion is advised.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi. I'm Shannon. Hi I'm Tanya, and we are Crimes

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<v Speaker 2>and Consequences, a hardcore true crime podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey Shannon, Hey Tanya, how are you? I'm doing pretty good?

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<v Speaker 3>How are you today?

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<v Speaker 2>I am doing really well. I just made some dinner,

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<v Speaker 2>some barbecue chicken. I'm gonna tell you what. I am

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<v Speaker 2>a pulled pork girl. Chicken's okay, but give me, give

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<v Speaker 2>me beef and give me pork. Wow, this chicken came

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<v Speaker 2>out so freaking good. What did I use? Baby rays?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that? Oh? My sweet baby.

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<v Speaker 3>Rays, Baby Rays. It's my favorite.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't believe how much I like it. So add

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<v Speaker 2>that to my list of menu items for the week.

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<v Speaker 2>Barbecue chicken, What's today? Thursday? Thursday? Baby cute chicken Thursday,

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<v Speaker 2>Spaghetti Wednesdays, Young Nice Nice.

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<v Speaker 3>I had a turkey breast for dinner. Yeah, like Jenny

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<v Speaker 3>O makes these turkey breasts that you can find in

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<v Speaker 3>the freezer section. Oh and just pop them like from frozen.

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<v Speaker 3>You pop them in the oven and you cook them

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<v Speaker 3>like maybe between two and three hours. Yeah, and they're

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<v Speaker 3>juicy and delicious as long as you plan ahead. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>easy dinner. I mean, had some mashed potatoes and made

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<v Speaker 3>broccoli and it was delicious. Like when I stall my curts,

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<v Speaker 3>that's how much I ate.

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<v Speaker 2>But it was a good mashed potatoes run through my veins.

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<v Speaker 2>It's red blood cell count, white blood cell countsh.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, I'm stuffed, but yeah, I'm doing good. Tomorrow's Friday.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm excited.

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<v Speaker 2>I love the Yes, me too. I'm so excited. Get

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<v Speaker 2>this weather cleared up. But I got a story for

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<v Speaker 2>us today. Awesome, let's hear it all right, it's going

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<v Speaker 2>to bring us to Georgia. Before I get started, just

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<v Speaker 2>want to invite everyone listening to go ahead and hit

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<v Speaker 2>subscribe so you'll always hear the latest and true crime.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me start off. It's about a young woman named

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<v Speaker 2>Tiffany Witten. She's born the thirtieth of January nineteen eighty seven,

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<v Speaker 2>makes her an Aquarius aquarius. Yes, she was twenty six

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<v Speaker 2>years old at the time of this event out of Marietta, Georgia,

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<v Speaker 2>and she had dreamed of becoming a veterinarian one day,

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<v Speaker 2>but unfortunately life had not always been kind to Tiffany,

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<v Speaker 2>and along the way she had fallen into destructive habits

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<v Speaker 2>and behaviors i e. Drug Barron MS. Tiffany's disappearance had

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<v Speaker 2>not garnered the national or international media attention that others

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<v Speaker 2>have over the years, and many will point out the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that Tiffany was an addict who had convictions for

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<v Speaker 2>theft under her belt, and that somehow insinuates that she

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<v Speaker 2>deserved to disappear. Somehow it seems like judgmental.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, police or the media doesn't really focus on because.

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<v Speaker 2>Of these behaviors. It somehow makes her not human. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>make her someone's daughter or sister or mother. But this

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<v Speaker 2>is not the case. Despite Tiffany's difficult past, she is

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<v Speaker 2>surrounded by loving friends and family who are desperate to

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<v Speaker 2>find out what happened to her now. According to Tiffany's mother,

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<v Speaker 2>Lisa Daniels, she knew something was different about her daughter

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<v Speaker 2>when she was just two years old. Lisa had told

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<v Speaker 2>Esquire magazine quote, Tiffany couldn't keep her hands off things.

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<v Speaker 2>She began to see feeling when she was two. I'd

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<v Speaker 2>find things in her toy box that didn't belong to her.

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<v Speaker 2>She was stealing from daycare. I'd ask about it and

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<v Speaker 2>she'd say someone gave it to me. She was also

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<v Speaker 2>a pathological liar, and she just got better at it

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<v Speaker 2>over the years. End, so Tiffany she dropped out of

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<v Speaker 2>high school when she was sixteen years old, despite the

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<v Speaker 2>wishes of her mom and her grandmom. Around this time,

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<v Speaker 2>Tiffany also became pregnant, and she chose to give the

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<v Speaker 2>baby up for adoption. In the Esquire article, her mother

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<v Speaker 2>Lisa mentioned that after that, Tiffany was never the same

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<v Speaker 2>and that she began to fall into the wrong crowd.

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<v Speaker 2>During this time of teenage angst, Tiffany desperately tried to

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<v Speaker 2>navigate her way through the world, despite coming across many

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<v Speaker 2>of the wrong people. Those who knew her best described

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<v Speaker 2>her as happy and outgoing and said that she always

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<v Speaker 2>held her dreams of becoming a veterinarian close to her heart.

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<v Speaker 2>Two thousand and eight, Tiffany gave birth to her second child,

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<v Speaker 2>a daughter name is Addison, who was in the care

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<v Speaker 2>of her grandmother, Lisa, Tiffany's mom. The birth of her

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<v Speaker 2>second child was somewhat of a turning point for Tiffany,

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<v Speaker 2>but unfortunately it was not a positive one. Tiffany, who

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<v Speaker 2>had once experimented with substances, now found herself addicted to

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<v Speaker 2>oxy contin and other substances. An addiction quickly took hold

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<v Speaker 2>of her, as it does with thousands of people, and

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<v Speaker 2>Tiffany's life quickly changed. Addiction takes people to dark and

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<v Speaker 2>scary places, and in twenty eleven, Tiffany, along with another

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<v Speaker 2>young woman, were arrested in charged with armed robbery. Articles

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<v Speaker 2>and arrest records indicate that on March seventh, twenty eleven,

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<v Speaker 2>Tiffany and the other unnamed woman broke into the home

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<v Speaker 2>of Tracy Chambers and stole sixty dollars before fleeing the scene.

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<v Speaker 2>Tiffany later told arresting officers that the sixty bucks she

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<v Speaker 2>had stolen was quote unquote rightfully hers, and that Tracy

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<v Speaker 2>had taken it from her days ago. From reports, it

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<v Speaker 2>appears that investigators believed that the transaction was related to

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<v Speaker 2>the purchase of illicit substances, and as a result, Tiffany,

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<v Speaker 2>the young woman, and another man were charged with armed

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<v Speaker 2>robbery and a slew of other charges for her involvement.

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<v Speaker 2>Tiffany was sent to prison, this time with an ultimatum.

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<v Speaker 2>Not only did she have to serve prison time, but

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<v Speaker 2>her mother gave her two choices. She could either continue

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<v Speaker 2>down the path she was traveling along now and never

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<v Speaker 2>see her daughter again, or she could complete rehab and

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<v Speaker 2>her prison sentence and see her daughter after proving she

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<v Speaker 2>could stay clean and responsible. So after being released from prison,

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<v Speaker 2>Tiffany chose the latter, and with the help of her grandmother,

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<v Speaker 2>Anita Boyette, she checked herself into a rehab facility. Anita

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<v Speaker 2>would also tell Esquire that just a month after Tiffany

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<v Speaker 2>had accepted treatment, she walked out. Quote, it was always

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<v Speaker 2>a month with Tiffany. I'm always going to keep the

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<v Speaker 2>lines of communication open. I have to. It doesn't matter

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<v Speaker 2>if she's using or not. I am her grandmother. Unquote.

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<v Speaker 2>Tiffany had begun to turn over a new leave, but

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<v Speaker 2>overcoming addiction is not an easy battle to fight. After

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<v Speaker 2>leaving rehab, she began using again, and that is when

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<v Speaker 2>the trouble started. Following her release, Tiffany moved in with

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<v Speaker 2>a roommate, and for a while things were going well.

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<v Speaker 2>Tiffany found herself a job as a waitress at ihop

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<v Speaker 2>and appeared to be steadying herself. However, as the months

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<v Speaker 2>went on, the toll of addiction began to show on Tiffany,

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<v Speaker 2>and she would often turn into work under the influence. Eventually,

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<v Speaker 2>her roommate kicked her out and her position as a

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<v Speaker 2>waitress came under fire. Then Tiffany met Ashley Red was

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<v Speaker 2>his nickname Caddle, and the two hit it off. According

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<v Speaker 2>to friends, their relationship was tumultuous, and the two would

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<v Speaker 2>frequently use together, which only exacerbated their problems. Like Tiffany,

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<v Speaker 2>Ashley also had a young daughter, and Tiffany began spending

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<v Speaker 2>all of her free time with Ashley. Anne began living

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<v Speaker 2>with him. In twenty twelve turned into twenty thirteen, and

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<v Speaker 2>Ashley and Tiffany were still together. Those around them since

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<v Speaker 2>that the relationship was rocky, but the two were never

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<v Speaker 2>without each other. The two would constantly argue before reconciling

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<v Speaker 2>hours later. On September eighth, twenty thirteen, it would be

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<v Speaker 2>the last time that anyone in Tiffany's family ever heard

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<v Speaker 2>or saw her again. On that day, Tiffany called her grandmother, Anita,

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<v Speaker 2>and asked if she could get her and Ashley something

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<v Speaker 2>to eat and wash their clothes. Anita told Esquire about

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<v Speaker 2>the last exchange she had with Tiffany, saying quo, I

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<v Speaker 2>met her and the little girl at the laundry rant.

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<v Speaker 2>Then I took her home and hugged her tight. I said, honey,

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<v Speaker 2>why don't you just come home? And she said, I

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<v Speaker 2>won't go without Ashley. I said, doesn't he have a home,

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<v Speaker 2>and she said he wouldn't go without me. End quote.

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<v Speaker 2>So once her clothes were clean, Tiffany and Ashley's daughter

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<v Speaker 2>left her grandmother's house for what would be the last time.

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<v Speaker 2>The next time she would hear about her granddaughter wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>be until November twenty thirteen, when a letter from a

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<v Speaker 2>lawyer came through the door. From September twelfth into September thirteenth,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty thirteen, Tiffany and Ashley spent the evening with Stephen

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<v Speaker 2>Weinstein and Jason Zuperini. According to Weinstein, the group spent

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<v Speaker 2>the evening taking substances before Tiffany and Ashley decided to

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<v Speaker 2>visit a twenty four hour, seven day a week Walmart

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<v Speaker 2>and Marietta. Ain't nothing good happened at the twenty four hour,

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<v Speaker 2>seven day a week Walmart. I know, right it is.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe that Tiffany and Ashley were under the influence

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<v Speaker 2>at the time, and CCTV footage shows them entering the

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<v Speaker 2>store at around one am. The two stayed in Walmart

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<v Speaker 2>for about an hour, piling clothes and items into their trolley.

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<v Speaker 2>CCTV footage captures the couple at multiple points around the store,

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<v Speaker 2>and according to Tom Janad, the author of the Esquire article,

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<v Speaker 2>it is clear to see that Tiffany is under the influence.

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<v Speaker 2>Tom wrote, quote, For one thing, she's shoplifting at two

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<v Speaker 2>in the morning. For another, she's clearly high. She never

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<v Speaker 2>stops moving, and it is almost as if she is

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<v Speaker 2>dancing or trying to stay on a horse. She throws

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<v Speaker 2>shirt after shirt and outfit after outfit into the cart

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<v Speaker 2>and behaves so suspiciously that to see the tape is

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<v Speaker 2>to wonder if she's trying to get caught, and if

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<v Speaker 2>she's trying to get caught in order to escape. End quote.

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<v Speaker 2>As two am drew closer, Ashley confirmed to investigators that

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<v Speaker 2>he told Tiffany he wanted to leave Walmart, and after

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<v Speaker 2>a small argument, he headed to the self service machines

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<v Speaker 2>to pay. Cc TV footage confirms that Tiffany left the

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<v Speaker 2>full trolley behind and headed for the exit waiting for

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<v Speaker 2>Ashley to pay, and as Tiffany and Ashley leave Walmart,

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<v Speaker 2>Tiffany is pulled back by security the Lost Prevention officers,

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<v Speaker 2>who accuse her of stealing twenty dollars worth of clothes,

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<v Speaker 2>and while Tiffany is being stopped, Ashley continues walking towards

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<v Speaker 2>the exit, seemingly ignoring his girlfriend's called for help. What

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<v Speaker 2>happens next is something that replays over and over in

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<v Speaker 2>the minds of those closest to Tiffany. Instead of surrendering

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<v Speaker 2>herself to the two officers, she pulls herself out of

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<v Speaker 2>her handcuffs, ditches her flip flops, and takes off, running

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<v Speaker 2>out of the front door. CCT footage shows Ashley and

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<v Speaker 2>the two officers watching Tiffany as she runs through the

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<v Speaker 2>car park and out of view. This was the last

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<v Speaker 2>time that Tiffany and was ever seen or heard from.

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<v Speaker 2>Ashley spent the remainder of the evening traveling around Marriotte

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<v Speaker 2>looking for his girlfriend, but to no avail. Ashley would

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<v Speaker 2>later recount the details of that fateful evening to Esquire magazine,

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<v Speaker 2>telling journalists Tom Janad quote, when we went to check out,

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<v Speaker 2>I was getting some shirts to leave with. I was

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<v Speaker 2>checking out and she was in her purse pulling stolen

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<v Speaker 2>items out, and there's all these Walmart workers in the front. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so we go to leave. I guess I was on

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<v Speaker 2>my phone and the Lost Prevention people come out, but

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<v Speaker 2>they didn't identify themselves as Lost Prevention, right, And she

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<v Speaker 2>said read and I didn't answer. Then she said my

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<v Speaker 2>first name, and I turned around and looked, and they

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<v Speaker 2>got her by both arms, and another dude has her purse.

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<v Speaker 2>So I pulled a knife out. They didn't see it.

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<v Speaker 2>I had it by my side. I'm like, look, let

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<v Speaker 2>her go, and she's struggling with them. They let her

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<v Speaker 2>Now it's to note Ashley's account does not exactly line

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<v Speaker 2>up with the confirmed events of September thirteenth, twenty eleven,

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<v Speaker 2>evidence to prove it either way. After Tiffany disappeared, Ashley

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<v Speaker 2>would later confirm by a witness, accounts, and phone records

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<v Speaker 2>that in the weeks and months after Tiffany disappeared, Ashley

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<v Speaker 2>had called hospitals, prisons, and Tiffany's associates in hopes of

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<v Speaker 2>in November twenty thirteen, Anita, Tiffany's grandmother, received a letter

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<v Speaker 2>from a lawyer on behalf of Walmart, asking for one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and fifty dollars to settle the suit out of court. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>this letter was the first inkling that something was wrong,

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<v Speaker 2>and her family set out looking for her. According to Anita,

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<v Speaker 2>she tried to make contact with her granddaughter but was

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<v Speaker 2>unable to get through to her. After being unable to

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<v Speaker 2>learned the terrifying truth. Ashley confessed that Tiffany was last

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<v Speaker 2>seen running away from the Walmart store on September thirteenth.

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<v Speaker 2>What is perhaps just as disturbing as Tiffany's disappearance and

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<v Speaker 2>In response to Anita asking why hadn't he called them

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<v Speaker 2>to let them know Tiffany was missing, he responded, I

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<v Speaker 2>wish I had that perse I bought her. It was

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<v Speaker 2>a coach purse and it was really expensive. What real

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<v Speaker 2>piece of work here, right? Tiffany's family waited for the

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<v Speaker 2>holidays to pass, desperately hoping that Tiffany would resurface and

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<v Speaker 2>make contact with them as she did every year. Her mother, Lisa,

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<v Speaker 2>waited for presents to arrive in the post to put

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<v Speaker 2>under the tree for Addison, but Christmas twenty thirteen would

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<v Speaker 2>be a year without presence, handpicked by Mom. The new

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<v Speaker 2>year rang in, and the family hoped that twenty fourteen

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<v Speaker 2>would be the year they found Tiffany. But by January tenth,

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<v Speaker 2>it was clear that Tiffany wasn't coming home, and that

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<v Speaker 2>is when Lisa contacted the Marietta Police Department and officially

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<v Speaker 2>reported her daughter missing. Due to the amount of time

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<v Speaker 2>that had a lapse between the report being taken and

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<v Speaker 2>Tiffany's disappearance, investigators were not hopeful that much, if any,

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<v Speaker 2>forensic evidence would be left. Multiple witnesses were interviewed, and

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<v Speaker 2>flyers and posters were placed around town. Tiffany's old roommate,

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<v Speaker 2>whom Tiffany had lived with before she moved in with Ashley,

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<v Speaker 2>came forward to investigators with a bizarre tip. She told

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<v Speaker 2>them that on the morning of September thirteenth, twenty thirteen,

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<v Speaker 2>she went to the walmart where Tiffany had disappeared from

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<v Speaker 2>to purchase a few items when she came across Ashley.

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<v Speaker 2>At this point, she didn't know that Tiffany was missing,

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<v Speaker 2>but all of that was about to change. According to

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<v Speaker 2>the roommate, she saw Ashley at the nearby eye hop

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<v Speaker 2>where Tiffany had worked in twenty thirteen. Ashley had asked

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<v Speaker 2>whether she had seen Tiffany and went on to explain

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<v Speaker 2>what had happened earlier that morning. The roommate later told

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<v Speaker 2>Esquire quote, he said his friends were going to come

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<v Speaker 2>and get him in a few minutes. It took an

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<v Speaker 2>hour and a half. Then an suv pulled up with

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<v Speaker 2>a guide driving and two girls inside. Ashley got in

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<v Speaker 2>the backseat with one of the girls and they drove

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<v Speaker 2>off end quote. She also told him investigators that Ashley

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<v Speaker 2>had claimed he was looking for Tiffany that day, but

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<v Speaker 2>it appears at the time he was making very little effort.

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<v Speaker 2>The searches for Tiffany continued into twenty fourteen, and on

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<v Speaker 2>March thirteenth, twenty fourteen, the home that Ashley and Tiffany

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<v Speaker 2>once shared was searched by Marietta police. Not only was

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<v Speaker 2>the home searched, but the garden was excavated and the

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<v Speaker 2>police brought with them cadaver dogs. And despite intensive searches,

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<v Speaker 2>Tiffany's body was not found. But as a result of

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<v Speaker 2>the search, Ashley Coddle was arrested after multiple firearms and

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<v Speaker 2>substances were found at his property. According to Georgia Department

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<v Speaker 2>of Corrections, Ashley Red Coddle served ten years at the

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<v Speaker 2>Muskogee County Jail and was released in September of twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty four Unfortunately, investigators and prosecutors have never been able

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<v Speaker 2>to find enough evidence to charge Ashley in connection with

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<v Speaker 2>Tiffany's disappearance. In twenty fifteen, two years after Tiffany disappeared,

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<v Speaker 2>Cobb County officials received another bizarre tip, this time in

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<v Speaker 2>connection with a big time drug trafficker. The witness had

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<v Speaker 2>come forward and told investigators that they had heard quote

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<v Speaker 2>that Ashley and some associates had driven to Lake Alatuna

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<v Speaker 2>and thrown a barrel filled with concrete off the side

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<v Speaker 2>of Bethany Bridge unquote. A full search of this area

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<v Speaker 2>was conducted by divers and a sonar squad, and whilst

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<v Speaker 2>a block of concrete was found, it did not contain

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<v Speaker 2>any sign of Tiffany. Lisa Daniels, her mom, confirmed to

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<v Speaker 2>investigators that the last sign of Tiffany on her social

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<v Speaker 2>media outlets was on September one, twenty thirteen. But a

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<v Speaker 2>few years later, Tiffany's half brother, Blake, came forward with

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<v Speaker 2>some new bizarre information. As outlined in the Esquire article,

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<v Speaker 2>Blake claimed to have received a call on January fifth,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty fourteen, from Tiffany from what he described as quote

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<v Speaker 2>one of those calling apps with a weird return number unquote.

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<v Speaker 2>Blake told us Square that he knew it was his

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<v Speaker 2>sister as she called him by his nickname, and he

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<v Speaker 2>has adamant that the call was placed on January fifth,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty fourteen. Lisa Daniels and those who know Tiffany do

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<v Speaker 2>not believe she is alive, and this is aside from Ashley,

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<v Speaker 2>who firmly believes that she is still out there. A

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<v Speaker 2>friend of Tiffany's took to Reddit in September twenty twenty two, saying, quote,

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<v Speaker 2>I know for a fact Tiffany would never go this

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<v Speaker 2>long without talking to her daughter. Yes, she could go

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<v Speaker 2>and would go months, but even whilst still using I

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<v Speaker 2>just don't see it. For years, having known her, especially

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<v Speaker 2>not her daughter's birthday and Christmas, I want to believe

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<v Speaker 2>she saw this as her way out and away from him,

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't believe she's still alive, and I understand

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<v Speaker 2>how improbable that sounds, but she was my friend. I

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<v Speaker 2>think she ended up getting a ride from someone and

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<v Speaker 2>something bad happened. Now, there are many theories in Tiffany's case,

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<v Speaker 2>and those in Unresolved Mysteries Subreddit have been quick to

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<v Speaker 2>point out the inconsistencies in Ashley's story, along with the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that he may not be involved at all. After

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<v Speaker 2>Tiffany went missing, he tried to look for her by

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<v Speaker 2>calling ex boyfriends, friends, hospitals, and prisons, and this was

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<v Speaker 2>backed up by his call records. Some people believe that

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<v Speaker 2>Ashley is involved in Tiffany's disappearance, but if that is

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<v Speaker 2>the case, then wouldn't the guards at Walmart have seen

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<v Speaker 2>the two after Tiffany ran off. With endless theories and possibilities,

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<v Speaker 2>it is impossible to say either way what happened to Tiffany.

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<v Speaker 2>We know for certain that she ran out of the

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<v Speaker 2>Walmart and Marriott on September thirteenth, twenty thirteen, and has

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<v Speaker 2>never been seen or heard from again. Media outlets were

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<v Speaker 2>quick to stigmatize Tiffany and her disappearance due to her past,

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<v Speaker 2>but that's not what is important here. Regardless of Tiffany's

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<v Speaker 2>addictions and past behaviors, She's still missing, and she, along

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<v Speaker 2>with her family, deserves to know what happened to her,

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<v Speaker 2>and she deserves to have justice. Tiffany Michelle Whitten was

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<v Speaker 2>last seen running away from a Walmart store in Marietta, Georgia,

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<v Speaker 2>on September thirteenth, twenty thirteen. She is described as a

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<v Speaker 2>white female with blonde strawberry blonde hair, green eyes, five

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<v Speaker 2>two to five five and one hundred and five pounds

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<v Speaker 2>according to the Charlie Project. At the time of her disappearance,

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<v Speaker 2>her hair had been bleached or dyed light blonde, but

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<v Speaker 2>her natural color was brown. Tiffany has tattoos on her

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<v Speaker 2>lower back, right shoulder blade, both hips, butterfly on her right,

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<v Speaker 2>on her right buttock, right foot, and left wrist some

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<v Speaker 2>Chinese symbols. She was last seen wearing a vest top

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<v Speaker 2>underneath a light colored VMX shirt with a design on

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<v Speaker 2>the front, dark blue jeans, a tan colored belt, and

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<v Speaker 2>a dark hair band, with no shoes or socks. Before

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<v Speaker 2>she disappeared, she had kicked off her flip flops and

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<v Speaker 2>left her handbag behind at the scene, and anyone with

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<v Speaker 2>information is asked to contact Detective Michael Sellek of the

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<v Speaker 2>Marietta Police Department at seven seven zero seven nine four

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<v Speaker 2>fifty three hundred, quoting case number one four zero zero

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<v Speaker 2>zero or seven to one, or Detective Ed Stockinger of

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<v Speaker 2>the Cop County Cold Case Unit at seven seven zero

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<v Speaker 2>five two eight three zero ninety four. And that is

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<v Speaker 2>the story of Tiffany Witten's disappearance.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you think happened?

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<v Speaker 2>I think, like what her friend said, I think someone

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<v Speaker 2>picked her up in some bad happened, especially if she

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<v Speaker 2>was high and using something, you know, Yeah, because you're

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<v Speaker 2>not thinking with a straight mind, obviously, and it didn't

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<v Speaker 2>sound like she had her wits about her at the time,

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<v Speaker 2>especially if she was hearty and before the Walmart trip

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<v Speaker 2>with some friends. I do I lean towards that, what

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<v Speaker 2>about you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's what I was thinking too, because like she

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<v Speaker 3>just sort of vanished into thin air. And I was

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<v Speaker 3>thinking too, like if Ashley had something to do with it,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think he would have spent time calling hospitals

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<v Speaker 3>and calling the jails and whatever. I mean, great, you

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<v Speaker 3>don't think about that as far as like, Okay, if

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<v Speaker 3>you're trying to cover your tracks and whatever, you might

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<v Speaker 3>make one or two phone calls I'm guessing to make

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<v Speaker 3>it look good or whatever. I don't think he would

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<v Speaker 3>have put that much effort into it if he knew

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<v Speaker 3>that she was gone. Yeah, they want to say I

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<v Speaker 3>think that because he didn't report her missing right away,

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<v Speaker 3>or that's a reason to say, like maybe he had

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<v Speaker 3>something to do with it.

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not feeling that failing Ashley. Yeah, I feel she.

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<v Speaker 3>Came into just some bad a bad situation or something like.

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<v Speaker 2>That person that took advantage of her state. I agree. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he's not gonna call several people over a two month period.

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<v Speaker 1>Right and your friends.

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<v Speaker 2>When you're out on probation, you do not want any

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<v Speaker 2>police contact. I can see him stalling, not excusing it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just the nature of the beast of drug addiction,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like you don't want the police to come

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<v Speaker 2>to your house and find your firearms and the stuff

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<v Speaker 2>that you're using, which is exactly what happened, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's why I don't believe it was him. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think he had the wherewithal to be a planner

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<v Speaker 2>like that. Yeah, sounded like a very codependent relationship. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, after she told her grandma, you know, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I can't I can't without him, and he won't without me.

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<v Speaker 1>Right right.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So I don't know, maybe she ended up like

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<v Speaker 3>hitchhiking or ending up like she might have hitchhiked out

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<v Speaker 3>of Georgia. We don't know, you know, or something could

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<v Speaker 3>have happened, who knows. That's really unfortunate, and that's really sad.

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<v Speaker 3>I always hate these stories that are unsolved, or like

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<v Speaker 3>the mystic persons and stuff like that, because I just

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<v Speaker 3>feel really sad for their families. Yeah, you know, just

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<v Speaker 3>I can't imagine the feeling something happened to your child

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<v Speaker 3>and you have no idea what it is, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, yeah, she's been gone all these years,

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<v Speaker 3>so she's probably dead. But sure youre yeah, something you

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<v Speaker 3>don't want to think that. I'm sure you're like, well

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<v Speaker 3>there's stories, you know, people come back after twenty years

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<v Speaker 3>or whatever, you know, so you don't want.

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<v Speaker 2>To think that.

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<v Speaker 3>But then you're like, well, she wouldn't stay away this

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<v Speaker 3>long like your friends.

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<v Speaker 2>Then yeah, it's just hard to give up hope. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's that's very very sad it is, but I'm glad

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<v Speaker 2>you have brought it and with contact information because.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah you have to both in your show notes. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>put your phone numbers and stuff in your show notes.

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<v Speaker 3>So well, thank you very much Shannon for that story

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<v Speaker 3>this week. It would be nice to have her family

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<v Speaker 3>have some closure. Like you said, I know, there's a

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<v Speaker 3>Facebook page. It's called find Tiffany Witten like I look

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<v Speaker 3>okay while you were talking, so you know they I

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<v Speaker 3>think it's probably run by someone in her family, either

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<v Speaker 3>her mom or someone else. And if you want more

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<v Speaker 3>information there, So thank you very much. And before we go,

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<v Speaker 3>just like to remind everyone to hit the subscribe or

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<v Speaker 3>Andconsequences dot com. We also have a Patreon, which, if

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<v Speaker 3>you don't know what it is, Shannon and I do

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<v Speaker 3>click that little button and pay for it right there,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's one extra episode a week usually, I know

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<v Speaker 3>lately with Shannon's grandson being born and my trip to

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<v Speaker 3>the Big Apple. Yeah, the Big Apple been a little behind,

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<v Speaker 3>but we try to get them out even if we

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<v Speaker 3>have to double up, so we try to get that

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<v Speaker 3>out there. So anyway, thank you very much again Shannon,

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<v Speaker 3>and until our next episode

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<v Speaker 2>Until next time, I love see you guys, will see you,

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<v Speaker 2>bye bye
