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<v Speaker 1>And is obviously to one percent continue on as it's

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<v Speaker 1>a function area of the octopus. You know, an element

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<v Speaker 1>that I've highlighted that no one else has highlighted ever,

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<v Speaker 1>and that I'm aware of now. There could be some

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<v Speaker 1>people in the tradcast sphere that probably highlighted this that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just not remembering. Maybe Michael Hoffman did. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I stumbled across some really interesting information in Gordon Thomas's

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<v Speaker 1>book which has been vindicated in a lot of these

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<v Speaker 1>Epstein releases. And that's Gordon Thomas's Gideon Spy's book about Masad.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we covered that years ago. I re covered

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<v Speaker 1>it in the last year many many times, and pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much the controversial aspects have been vindicated, particularly connections to

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<v Speaker 1>Princess Diana that seems to be there explicit with Epstein

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<v Speaker 1>that we as we saw a couple of days ago.

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<v Speaker 1>But the chapter on John Paul the Second no one

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<v Speaker 1>else has. I've seen no one else cover this, and

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<v Speaker 1>he mentions that Massad wanted I think, to bog the

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<v Speaker 1>Vatican and they weren't sick. I think they were not

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<v Speaker 1>successful in that, but what they did was really establish

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<v Speaker 1>closer and closer relationships with John Paul the Second which

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<v Speaker 1>led to the recognition of the nation state of Israel,

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<v Speaker 1>and that happened under John Paul the Second, and Gordon

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<v Speaker 1>Thomas's book was essentially detailing how that came about. Who

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<v Speaker 1>else has talked about this? Now, why is that relevant? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's relevant because that explains the close relationship between John

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<v Speaker 1>Paul the Second and Jeffrey Epstein clear as day, and

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<v Speaker 1>it also is dealt with in this extensive book, not

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<v Speaker 1>the Masad stuff, but Darcy O'Brien's book Hidden Vote there

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<v Speaker 1>with the close relationship between John Paul the Second and

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<v Speaker 1>the promotion of what's in Nostrotade and Lumingentium sixty. So

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<v Speaker 1>that is where the Vatican has been for a long time,

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<v Speaker 1>and you might even consider it older than that, given

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that there were five loans back in the

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen hundreds. Now, I remember the first time I noticed this.

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<v Speaker 1>It was actually at the Jewish Encyclopedia, and it said

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<v Speaker 1>something like the Rothchilds have been the official papal bankers

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<v Speaker 1>since the seventeen hundreds. I think that's what the Jewish

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<v Speaker 1>Encyclopedia says. If you go to the Rothchild's family archives,

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<v Speaker 1>it says the significant loans began in the eighteen fifties,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was I forget which pope that was Gregory

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen thirties, Gregory the sixteenth in the eighteen thirties, significant

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<v Speaker 1>loans to the papal to the papacy in the eighteen thirties,

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen thirty three, eighteen thirty seven, eighteen thirty two. And

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<v Speaker 1>let's see if we can find that original reference at

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<v Speaker 1>Jewish Encyclopedia and find out exactly what it says. And

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<v Speaker 1>I remember, I think I saw this as a trad

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<v Speaker 1>cat and I was kind of taken aback because I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't really know what to do with this, because I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't this call into question the papacy going back to

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<v Speaker 1>the seventeen hundreds then, I mean you could say, well

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<v Speaker 1>maybe not, Okay, yeah, maybe not. Maybe there was you know,

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<v Speaker 1>some they maybe the paper was in dire straits and

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<v Speaker 1>they had to resort to a roth Child loan or

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<v Speaker 1>something like that, and it wasn't necessarily compromised at the stage.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean perhaps, but let's see, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>If they were in dire streets, would that mean they

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<v Speaker 2>were getting money or nothing?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, here we go PayPal here it is eight. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>this is not the seventeen hundred. Excuse me. It is

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<v Speaker 1>somewhat curious sequel to attempt a Catholic competitor to the

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<v Speaker 1>Rothchilds pretor the latter are the guardians of the papal treasure.

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<v Speaker 1>So there you see, and that is in the eighteen hundreds.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's not the seventeen hundreds. It is the eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>hundreds in the Jewish encyclopedia under the Rothschild entry right there,

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<v Speaker 1>England was a central on competition with Bearings and Rothchild's,

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<v Speaker 1>culminating the failure of Bearings. But in this case the

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<v Speaker 1>ro Child came up to the rescue of the rivals

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<v Speaker 1>and they presented a universal financial prevented a universal financial catastrophe.

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<v Speaker 1>It is somewhat curious sequel to the attempt to set

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<v Speaker 1>up a Catholic competitor that at that at the present time,

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<v Speaker 1>the latter are the guardians of the papal treasure. So

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if this is saying at the present

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<v Speaker 1>time of the eighteen hundreds, you could read it that way,

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<v Speaker 1>or is it saying the present time of whenever this

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<v Speaker 1>entry was written, probably fifty seventy years ago. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know the exact publishing. The date of the publication of

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<v Speaker 1>the geisencyclopedia, but regardless, it is known and admitted that

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<v Speaker 1>the significant loans began during the papacy of Gregory the sixteenth.

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<v Speaker 1>The first known loan was eighteen thirty two, after the

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<v Speaker 1>Napoleonic Wars, and this was James Meyer de Rothschild and

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<v Speaker 1>Karl Meyer. The Rothschild gave a loan of four hundred

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<v Speaker 1>thousand pounds equivalent to four point five million in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty three. And then guess that, look at this loans

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<v Speaker 1>under based in trad Pious the ninth, the so called

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<v Speaker 1>trad pope a Vatican one. Huh.

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<v Speaker 2>So you remember back in the day to Jay when

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<v Speaker 2>we when people used to laugh when you say all

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<v Speaker 2>the banks are like one big conglomerate.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's called the Bank for National Settlements and uh

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<v Speaker 1>like it's admitted when you get into the high level books, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Well even you know what's funny is there's.

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<v Speaker 2>A small little paperback from the sixties called the Merchant Bankers,

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<v Speaker 2>because you were talking about like the British banks, uh huh.

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<v Speaker 2>And even in that book they kind of do admit.

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<v Speaker 2>And the reason that jog my memory is because when

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<v Speaker 2>you go into like Jewish encyclopedias, sometimes they say the

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<v Speaker 2>quiet part.

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<v Speaker 3>Out loud, you know, yeah sure and so yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So sometimes in these in these Hayes geographies where they're like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, talking good about certain things, they say the

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<v Speaker 2>quiet part out loud. And in that sixties book and

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<v Speaker 2>the merchant Bankers, they basically.

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<v Speaker 1>Admit they're like, oh yeah, like each one of.

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<v Speaker 2>The banks bails each other out on a daily basis.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Well, remember did you hear John what we covered

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<v Speaker 1>yesterday with the first twenty five minutes of the band

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<v Speaker 1>in Epstein interview. No, I haven't listened to that yet.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh man, Well, guess what he says the first twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five minutes. Can you take a guess?

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<v Speaker 2>He talks about knowing the ins and outs of banking

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<v Speaker 2>and how it's all connected.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's Fiat fractional reserve banking, and he says, they

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<v Speaker 1>make it up out of thin air. And I understood this,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is why David Rockefeller appointed me to the

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<v Speaker 1>Trilateral Commission. He says in the first twenty five minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't that crazy? That's wild? Now, guys, remember we covered

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<v Speaker 1>this last night and that one is now a member stream.

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<v Speaker 1>But yes, within the first twenty five minutes of the

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<v Speaker 1>Epstein interview with Bannon, Bannon says, and what's funny is

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<v Speaker 1>that when Bannon's asking these questions, it seems like Bannon

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't understand it. And that's kind of shocking to me,

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<v Speaker 1>not because I, I mean, I don't really follow Bann

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<v Speaker 1>at all, but it's like I thought I would think

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<v Speaker 1>he would know these kind of conspiracy classics, right, like

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<v Speaker 1>you would think people know about fractional reserve banking and

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<v Speaker 1>loaning out. You know, double the amount that the banks

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<v Speaker 1>can basically print the double amount of every loan on

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<v Speaker 1>hand and there's no gold to back it up, and

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<v Speaker 1>on and on and on uh and in Epstein, much

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<v Speaker 1>like with Larry Summers in the Vatican Bank email, is

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<v Speaker 1>like having to explain these conspiracy concepts to people like

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<v Speaker 1>Bannon or Larry Summers. Let's not forget the Vatican Bank email.

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<v Speaker 1>Which why is this the case? Well, remember in the

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<v Speaker 1>roth Tell's official biography that I have right here, the

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<v Speaker 1>Morton one, you can see that, according to the biographer,

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<v Speaker 1>the famous Waterloo story, they brag about it. They say, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's true. We got advanced intelligence on Waterloo and then

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<v Speaker 1>we were able to short the market, collapse it and

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<v Speaker 1>buy it up on an engineered panic in one day.

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<v Speaker 1>There it is right there. That's the official biography of

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<v Speaker 1>the roth Tails by Morton. That's why I put it

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<v Speaker 1>up here. By the way, this got two hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>fifty thousand impressions, so that one did good.

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<v Speaker 2>And two is it's my Amos steel On and it's

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<v Speaker 2>called Founder and it's about amshell.

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<v Speaker 1>If you read in there.

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<v Speaker 2>And once again it's a it's a ha geography, so

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<v Speaker 2>it's presenting it in a positive light. And it says

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<v Speaker 2>that he became a banker for like one of the

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<v Speaker 2>dukes in Germany, and that he figured out because the

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<v Speaker 2>duke didn't know anything about his money, he didn't even

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<v Speaker 2>know how much he had, and he would make loans

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<v Speaker 2>with the duke's money and then keep all the profits

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<v Speaker 2>from the from the interest that he was charging the

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<v Speaker 2>duke's money, and that's how he became richer than the

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<v Speaker 2>duke was through the interest that he was using by

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<v Speaker 2>loaning out the duke's money.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Well, this was a lobbyal theorized for a long

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<v Speaker 1>time that they were, you know, keeping the heads of

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<v Speaker 1>or you know, usually there's just these degenerates. And what's funny, John,

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<v Speaker 1>is that's actually what Epstein says at the beginning of

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<v Speaker 1>this interview to Bannon. Bannon says, so are you are

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<v Speaker 1>you saying that the politicians aren't really really running the countries?

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<v Speaker 1>And Epstein says, look, politicians are there because they're popular.

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<v Speaker 1>They're like the popular kids in school. That's what they're

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<v Speaker 1>interested in. They don't know how this stuff works. He's like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>when you got somebody like me, he's like, I understood

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<v Speaker 1>high finance and that it's fractional reserve banking. And he

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<v Speaker 1>says that was very useful to David Rockefeller and that's

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<v Speaker 1>why he in nineteen ninety appointed me as part of

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<v Speaker 1>the Trilateral Commission. And Bannon is just still kind of like,

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<v Speaker 1>what what do you mean like the and he keeps

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<v Speaker 1>asking that's like two or three times, like so you're saying,

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<v Speaker 1>you're say politicians don't know what's going on. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>Bannon doesn't even realize that politicians don't know what's going on.

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<v Speaker 1>But I wanted to remind you, guys of the Vatican Bank,

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead, never read David Rockefeller's memoir, No, he didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>And so you don't know how those guys talk, even

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<v Speaker 2>in their own books that are like New York Times bestsellers,

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<v Speaker 2>where he says, you know, yeah, me and my family

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<v Speaker 2>are part of a cabala people who are looking to

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<v Speaker 2>you know, working against he says, specifically working against the

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<v Speaker 2>best interest of the United States.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm proud of it, and not as well that

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<v Speaker 1>this shows that it's not a do you want to

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<v Speaker 1>be with the WASP or do you want to be

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<v Speaker 1>with Israel and the Zionists. For David Rockefeller, it's he's

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<v Speaker 1>above that. It's a WASP Zionist alliance. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>people as well, So it's all of the above. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the elites working together. And that's why Rockfeller would recruit

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<v Speaker 1>and bring him into the power structure. And so it's

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<v Speaker 1>not like, wait a minute, you're saying it's David Rockfeller,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not the Israelise. No, it's both. That's what we're saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Now here is this Vatican Bank email. And actually I'm

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<v Speaker 1>glad that somebody community noted this because the email is

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<v Speaker 1>Jeffrey to Larry Summers. It's not Larry Summers, the Clinton

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<v Speaker 1>viper banker that destroyed and looted Russia after the Cold War.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not Larry Summers explaining this to Epstein. It's Epstein

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<v Speaker 1>explaining shadow banking to a banker, to a public economics

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<v Speaker 1>so called expert. And he says, look, the reason that

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<v Speaker 1>Benedicta sixteenth stepped down was because of the Vatican Bank.

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<v Speaker 1>The Vatican Bank is a sovereign country. It is exempt

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<v Speaker 1>from the transparency rules not only of Italy but also

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<v Speaker 1>of the European Union. This status allows its elite clients

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<v Speaker 1>to evade any scrutiny in their money transfers. Last May,

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<v Speaker 1>because he knew Vatican Bank secrets. By late twenty twelve,

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<v Speaker 1>point it was the all powerful College of Cardinals in

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<v Speaker 1>of the bank. This came came, then came the extraordinary

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<v Speaker 1>resignation of Pope Benedict the sixteenth. Now this is also

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<v Speaker 1>blackmailer extraordinary here with Jeff Stin mcgeffrey admitting that the

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<v Speaker 1>well with the BIS. They're both pretty much kind of

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<v Speaker 1>of England and other places Schroederbank and others, which by

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<v Speaker 1>They wanted that clearinghouse. And so that's a bank that's

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<v Speaker 1>above allied or axis investigation or purview. And as Burton

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<v Speaker 1>That chapter on the BIS notes that that's an international

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<v Speaker 1>banking clique largely JP Morgan, which JP Morgan is a

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<v Speaker 1>on that the other night. But to get back to

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<v Speaker 1>the Vatican Bank, the Vatican Bank is the same apparatus

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<v Speaker 1>and the alliance made between the os S and CA

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<v Speaker 1>happened explicit according to multiple Catholic writers and historians, Paul

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<v Speaker 1>Williams all the Gladiotechs that we've covered, It was James

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<v Speaker 1>And then William Colby of course also further solidified that

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, in the documentary on William Colby made

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<v Speaker 1>by his son, we did a whole livestream on that

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<v Speaker 1>documentary because it also vindicates this information. So here have

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<v Speaker 1>William Colby's own son literally making a documentary admitting all this,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you've got Jessa mceffrey in the first thirty

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<v Speaker 1>minutes of the Bannon interview also admitting all this. So

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<v Speaker 1>you guys, especially all you load tier trad Cats and

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<v Speaker 1>Roman Catholics who keep just incessantly ignoring this and trying

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<v Speaker 1>to cover up for the papacy in this ridiculous nonsense

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<v Speaker 1>that Francis hacked Epstein. Utter bullshit. Probably the biggest bullshit

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<v Speaker 1>of the week isn't the fake AI of Epstein being alive.

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<v Speaker 1>It's this Roman Catholic profile that's trying to argue that

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<v Speaker 1>Francis is the hero that saved Meanwhile, you know Epstein's

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<v Speaker 1>over here in multiple emails saying yes, I will organize

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<v Speaker 1>the meetings with the Pope. Yeah, we'll have meetings, blah

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<v Speaker 1>blah blah. I'm gonna go meet with the papac. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna hang out with John Paul. And by the way, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have a problem admitting here you have one

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<v Speaker 1>of the Greek arcons of the ep Somebody said, ha ha, no, orthodox,

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<v Speaker 1>we're in the in the files. Not true. The very

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<v Speaker 1>influential ARCon here is listed. I think he's in the

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<v Speaker 1>Black Book. Yeah, I don't know who this person is.

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<v Speaker 1>John Katsimatitis, Greek billionaire and arkon behind Bartholomew. So you

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<v Speaker 1>want to understand how Bartholomew pushes all the nonsense that

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<v Speaker 1>he pushes is because these are the people behind Bartholomew. Duh.

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<v Speaker 1>So it is not true. And by the way, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not afraid to say, oh, you won't talk about Orthodox

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<v Speaker 1>Well there you go, right there, there's one right there.

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<v Speaker 1>But you got to understand how ridiculous that this is

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<v Speaker 1>when you actually read the email or assume me it's

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<v Speaker 1>an FBI in formant report, m account there's are coping

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<v Speaker 1>with the absolute bullshit they're spreading claiming that Francis out

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<v Speaker 1>at Epstein and quote hacked him. And it's wild to

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<v Speaker 1>me that no one actually read this email because this

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<v Speaker 1>totally bullshit thing here got four point two million impressions

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen thousand likes. Okay, this says nothing like that anywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>There is no indication at all. In fact, the indication

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<v Speaker 1>in this FBI informant report is the opposite. The hacker

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<v Speaker 1>has a Vatican passport. This is Epstein's hacker, not the

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<v Speaker 1>person who hacked Epstein, Epstein's own alleged personal hacker, you idiots.

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<v Speaker 1>And this person is giving a confidential informant report to

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<v Speaker 1>an FBI agent is what this document is and it

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<v Speaker 1>says this person's report. Informant says Epstein had a compound

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<v Speaker 1>in New Mexico. He lured and recorded things there with

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<v Speaker 1>underage people. He had a private island, allegedly was Putin's

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<v Speaker 1>wealth manager. Don't know if that's true, but that's this

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<v Speaker 1>is just a person saying this to the FBI. So

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<v Speaker 1>remember this, that's all this is provided the service for

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<v Speaker 1>Robert Mugabe managing his wealth. Epstein had connections to people

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<v Speaker 1>in MIT. Epstein had a mansion in Westside, New York,

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<v Speaker 1>friends of Bill Clinton, very close to Trump, this informant

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<v Speaker 1>is saying, and then it goes on to say that

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<v Speaker 1>this informant was Epstein's personal hacker. Does that say that

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<v Speaker 1>this person hacked for Pope Francis. That's why I said

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<v Speaker 1>you're a legit moron to this guy who posted this. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe this guy's looks like he's a Spanish based profile,

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<v Speaker 1>so he could be in Spain or Portugal, and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>he can't read English, because this doesn't say that Epstein

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<v Speaker 1>was hacked by the Pope's hacker, you idiot. It says

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<v Speaker 1>this person, this informant is claiming to be Epstein's personal hacker,

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<v Speaker 1>You idiot. He was an Italian born citizen in Calabria

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<v Speaker 1>and he was involved in developed, helping zero day exploits

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<v Speaker 1>for cyber tools for governments and others. He says he

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<v Speaker 1>was involved in helping the Saudis create a surveillance program.

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<v Speaker 1>He did a zero day exploit against Hesbelah. Okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>this is this person's claim about his tech proclivities and abilities.

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<v Speaker 1>Then he talks about seed money, banking, et cetera, hacking

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<v Speaker 1>work he did, and then it says he was friends

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<v Speaker 1>with old school European hackers. One friend was a hacker

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<v Speaker 1>named something, and then it's all blocked out. Says that

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<v Speaker 1>he was involved in something about with connection to Hesbelah,

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<v Speaker 1>and then it says money was sent to Switzerland. Blah

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<v Speaker 1>blah blah. Zero day exploits. That's a certain kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a hack. It relates to a crypto for example. It

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<v Speaker 1>goes on to say the Italian government asked blank for help,

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<v Speaker 1>presumably this person, but he declined because he felt that

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<v Speaker 1>the government was incompetent. Colabria was mob controlled area in

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<v Speaker 1>Italy and did not have much loyalty for his own country.

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<v Speaker 1>He sold the exploits to the United States in the UK,

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<v Speaker 1>but he would not go to any Asian sell to

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<v Speaker 1>Asian countries because quote, he was racist. So the FBI

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<v Speaker 1>agent has taken down this guy's information. He's like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so this guy will not sell to Asian countries because

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<v Speaker 1>he's racist. And it says he was also antisemitic. But

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<v Speaker 1>he was terrified of going to Russia. But he would not, however,

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<v Speaker 1>and would never travel there. He lived in Dubai, he

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<v Speaker 1>lived in Oman. He may be Iranian and have an

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<v Speaker 1>Israeli passport as well as a Vatican City passport. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>these idiot Roman Catholic profiles sharing this, you cannot make

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<v Speaker 1>this up. Tried to take that and say, quote the

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<v Speaker 1>FBI says hack of Epstein was carried out from the Vatican.

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<v Speaker 1>Did that say anything like that anywhere at all? Absolutely not,

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<v Speaker 1>And in fact it's the exact opposite. This person is

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<v Speaker 1>Epstein's hacker, allegedly knows Epstein, he says is ratting on

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<v Speaker 1>Epstein and has in Israeli and Vatican passport. You idiots,

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<v Speaker 1>total utter bullshit, So that one wins the award for

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<v Speaker 1>most ridiculous bullshit so far. There was something else that

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna. Oh, by the way, as you guys know,

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<v Speaker 1>a little side note. I suspect, by the way, that

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<v Speaker 1>it's not just the Vatican the b I s h

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<v Speaker 1>there are other places that that are that apparently work

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<v Speaker 1>this way. I didn't even know that until we went

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<v Speaker 1>there on our pilgrimage. Does anyone know about San Marino?

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<v Speaker 1>So when we did our Orthodox pilgrimage in twenty twenty three,

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<v Speaker 1>we went to San Marino, which is an independent Italian

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<v Speaker 1>city state and this goes back to the Italian Republic

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<v Speaker 1>days and so forth. And apparently the way this works

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<v Speaker 1>is that it's a place where most of the population

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<v Speaker 1>only lives there half of the year, and it's really

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<v Speaker 1>kind of eerie when you go there because it's up

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<v Speaker 1>Masonic stuff everywhere. Literally, it's the first quote Communist Republic.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me show you what I'm talking about here, And

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<v Speaker 1>it's named after this monk oop by the way, is

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<v Speaker 1>holding like a hammer and chisel, so it's like a

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<v Speaker 1>Mason connection, and that's how it relates to Freemasonry and

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<v Speaker 1>the mafia. Somewhere in here, because I remember reading this

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<v Speaker 1>when we were there, that it's the first communist government

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<v Speaker 1>I think in the world. There's somewhere in here where

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<v Speaker 1>it says that first communist socialist constitution. Yes, In nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>forty five, San Marino became the world's first country to

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<v Speaker 1>democratically elect a communist led government, a coalition of socialists

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<v Speaker 1>that ruled until nineteen fifty seven together with the Committee

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<v Speaker 1>of Freedom. The coalition was a left ring coalition with

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<v Speaker 1>the Simarinese Communist Party. Now what's interesting is that this

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<v Speaker 1>place functions as a international It has separate laws as

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<v Speaker 1>a city state from the Italian government. So for example,

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<v Speaker 1>you can actually buy like guns and crossbows in San Marino,

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<v Speaker 1>which are illegal in the rest of Italy. But that's

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<v Speaker 1>nothing compared to the fact that actually San Marino is

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<v Speaker 1>I would suspect a hub of international money, criminal stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>precisely because it's one of these independent city states that's

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<v Speaker 1>not related to the rest of the country. I is

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<v Speaker 1>jay homosexual. Yes, I am a homosexual, married man. He says,

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<v Speaker 1>hello from tel Aviv. This man is gay. So that

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<v Speaker 1>that's what the Tel Aviv people are having to say here,

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<v Speaker 1>is that yes, anybody talking. Tel Aviv is the gay

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<v Speaker 1>capital of the world. But I'm a gay dude. Sure

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<v Speaker 1>you guys have seen my beautiful wife. But that's all

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<v Speaker 1>they have. That's all they have, the Roman Catholics and

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<v Speaker 1>the tel Avivians together. It's the only insult they have. Chunch,

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<v Speaker 1>what's up, Chunch?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm I don't understand why you would wait all that

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<v Speaker 4>time and then not talk.

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<v Speaker 1>Kenzo the Buddha, what's up? We got the actual enlightened

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<v Speaker 1>the Buddha here with us financial crimes. Mafia grips utilize

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<v Speaker 1>San Marino as a front for money. Lenner, Dude, what's up?

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<v Speaker 1>Can you guys hear me? Okay, yeah, you're really loud.

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<v Speaker 1>What's up? Let me step outside it for a second.

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<v Speaker 1>So I've worked on murder cases.

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<v Speaker 5>Before I worked at I was going to be an attorney,

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<v Speaker 5>So I'll just bring this kind of to the forefront.

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<v Speaker 5>Are you guys familiar with Power Versus Force? The Hitdden

419
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<v Speaker 5>Determined That Into Behind Human Behavior and Anatomy Unconsciousness by

420
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<v Speaker 5>doctor David HARTA.

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<v Speaker 1>Hawkins.

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<v Speaker 5>No, okay, so it's a very powerful book. Basically, as

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<v Speaker 5>most people know that have studied quantum physics, that the

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<v Speaker 5>universe is conscious. So I'll kind of give you an

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<v Speaker 5>example on how this can be used in multiple ways

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<v Speaker 5>by everybody listening, so that way they know from their

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<v Speaker 5>own self the truth of Jeffrey Epstein being alive.

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<v Speaker 3>I know you guys were reviewing that AI photo.

429
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<v Speaker 1>We're not doing new age retarded bullshit today. Jack. What's up, Hey, Jay?

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<v Speaker 6>How's it going.

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<v Speaker 1>One thing I studied.

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<v Speaker 3>I was a physics major at a college in the

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<v Speaker 3>United States that did the first X ray in the

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<v Speaker 3>Western hemisphere. I studied quantum physics for multiple semesters. This

435
00:30:36.720 --> 00:30:38.799
<v Speaker 3>guy is a total moron, and I'm sick of hearing

436
00:30:38.880 --> 00:30:42.000
<v Speaker 3>this nonsense. One thing, I kind of wanted to go

437
00:30:42.039 --> 00:30:44.440
<v Speaker 3>back to Epstein, and if you don't want to do that,

438
00:30:44.640 --> 00:30:50.359
<v Speaker 3>you know, go to somebody else. But my uncle's best

439
00:30:50.440 --> 00:30:53.880
<v Speaker 3>friends was one guy named the White Rhino and the

440
00:30:53.880 --> 00:30:57.759
<v Speaker 3>other one was Nicholas Tartaglioni. So if you look up

441
00:30:57.799 --> 00:31:02.960
<v Speaker 3>White Rhino and Nick tartagli and FBI, you should see

442
00:31:02.960 --> 00:31:06.759
<v Speaker 3>the articles about them. That's how Epstein's cellmate ended up

443
00:31:07.880 --> 00:31:12.640
<v Speaker 3>in prison. One thing I will say is that you're

444
00:31:12.680 --> 00:31:16.200
<v Speaker 3>totally right about a maximum security prison. There's absolutely no

445
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<v Speaker 3>way from what I've heard from family members that you

446
00:31:20.480 --> 00:31:24.000
<v Speaker 3>would be able to kill yourself. It's it's comical, and

447
00:31:24.039 --> 00:31:25.599
<v Speaker 3>it goes back to I guess what was said.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's not me. I don't know anything about super

449
00:31:31.039 --> 00:31:34.640
<v Speaker 1>maxis thank god, it's Sammy the Bowl from his time

450
00:31:34.759 --> 00:31:36.880
<v Speaker 1>at Epstein's Supermax.

451
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<v Speaker 3>And those were amazing interviews. And I think you're totally right.

452
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<v Speaker 3>I'm Jay honestly. The fact that you've been ahead of

453
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<v Speaker 3>the curve and been in the years of people like

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<v Speaker 3>Sam Hyde and Alex Jones for years that and you

455
00:31:51.920 --> 00:31:55.920
<v Speaker 3>only have I mean, you've done tremendous work, and I

456
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<v Speaker 3>want to thank you to listen to you for a while.

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<v Speaker 3>One thing I want to ask you, though, and I

458
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<v Speaker 3>don't want to battle here, I want to get your

459
00:32:03.839 --> 00:32:09.960
<v Speaker 3>thoughts on this. So, since Epstein was an agent, as

460
00:32:10.000 --> 00:32:14.359
<v Speaker 3>you've clearly demonstrated, and there were people above him, why

461
00:32:14.559 --> 00:32:18.400
<v Speaker 3>was Epstein finally arrested the first time? Why was he

462
00:32:18.440 --> 00:32:21.519
<v Speaker 3>finally why was he arrested the second time? Why was

463
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<v Speaker 3>he murdered or allowed to escape?

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<v Speaker 1>Or was his useful life exhausted?

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<v Speaker 2>You know?

466
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<v Speaker 3>Was it something more sinister? And I guess when I'm

467
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<v Speaker 3>wondering if you consider the fact that we got the

468
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<v Speaker 3>documents with enough parts unredacted for us to be confused

469
00:32:37.640 --> 00:32:41.279
<v Speaker 3>and yelling and angry at people. But there were just

470
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<v Speaker 3>enough things that were redacted that we weren't able to prosecute,

471
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<v Speaker 3>or we.

472
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<v Speaker 1>Weren't able to really put our foot down on people.

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<v Speaker 1>And I and I just wanted to.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, we really can, but it's just not it's

475
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<v Speaker 3>not overt enough, it's.

476
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<v Speaker 1>Quite it's somewhat oblique. And I guess.

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<v Speaker 3>Is, do you think that potentially the intent here is

478
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<v Speaker 3>to so distrust and accelerate US fragmentation. And you have Trump,

479
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<v Speaker 3>who I think is at buffoon. Maybe people disagree. He's

480
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<v Speaker 3>the fall guy. He's the guy that's going to preside

481
00:33:15.720 --> 00:33:19.440
<v Speaker 3>over tremendous cataclysm in this country. Potentially, maybe I'm wrong,

482
00:33:19.519 --> 00:33:23.920
<v Speaker 3>maybe I'm catastrophizing, but he's the perfect individual that is

483
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<v Speaker 3>too stupid to address things on their face and to

484
00:33:26.359 --> 00:33:29.200
<v Speaker 3>just incriminate himself and make himself look like an idiot.

485
00:33:29.799 --> 00:33:31.640
<v Speaker 3>I mean, he's lost somebody like me that voted for

486
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<v Speaker 3>him twice. There's also that email that you covered on

487
00:33:37.279 --> 00:33:40.000
<v Speaker 3>your initial stream on this topic that I saw just

488
00:33:40.039 --> 00:33:43.799
<v Speaker 3>downloaded x again after several months I kind of go

489
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<v Speaker 3>in and out of this stuff, try to focus on

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<v Speaker 3>things I can control a little bit more. But I

491
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<v Speaker 3>actually anyway, there's that email where it talks about DROG

492
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<v Speaker 3>and you were like, what the hell is derog mean?

493
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<v Speaker 3>And my thought was that maybe it means like either

494
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<v Speaker 3>derogatory information. So it says, let's make a d ROG

495
00:34:05.799 --> 00:34:11.480
<v Speaker 3>spreadsheet on Trump, Prince Andrew Clinton, William Barr, etc. They

496
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<v Speaker 3>go through all these names, and it's right after Epstein

497
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<v Speaker 3>kills himself and they immediately are compiling a spreadsheet of

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<v Speaker 3>people they wanted to associate with him. So I guess

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<v Speaker 3>my thought is is I couldn't explain why was he

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<v Speaker 3>finally arrested, why was he allowed to be suicided? And

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<v Speaker 3>then the only thing that I could think of is

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<v Speaker 3>is this being used as a tool? Is this being

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<v Speaker 3>used as something that is going to tarnish the leadership

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<v Speaker 3>of this country?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it could be. I think, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>early cases I did interview the first journalists to expose

507
00:34:47.760 --> 00:34:52.360
<v Speaker 1>and cover Epstein, Nick Bryant. In that interview is still

508
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<v Speaker 1>up fairly recent on my wall. I re shared it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the reason he got arrested the first time

510
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<v Speaker 1>was that there were so many victim that so many

511
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<v Speaker 1>people abused by these operations that I think at a

512
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<v Speaker 1>certain point, local officials, local people were forced to do something.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. It was just there was so many victims

514
00:35:13.519 --> 00:35:16.360
<v Speaker 1>that it's very difficult to just constantly not do anything.

515
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<v Speaker 1>And also sometimes local police because they don't understand these

516
00:35:21.280 --> 00:35:25.079
<v Speaker 1>gigantic international networks very well. I mean, you saw, for example,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Bannon as an educated journalist apparently not understanding

518
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<v Speaker 1>fractional reserve banking, and Epstein's having to explain it to him.

519
00:35:34.559 --> 00:35:37.000
<v Speaker 1>So it's like, I think a lot of times, perhaps

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<v Speaker 1>the advantage of good hearted individual local law enforcement people

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<v Speaker 1>that might be a positive because they don't realize how

522
00:35:50.920 --> 00:35:53.440
<v Speaker 1>far this stuff goes up, and so they'll actually do

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<v Speaker 1>some stuff. And then I think the corruption usually ends

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<v Speaker 1>up being at a very high level. Right, the more

525
00:35:59.719 --> 00:36:01.599
<v Speaker 1>the more it goes up, the more it's corrupt. So

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<v Speaker 1>that would be my guess as to why you had

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<v Speaker 1>the original arrests and prosecutions. And and also too, we

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<v Speaker 1>get and Lord Baltimore talked about this today. We get

529
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<v Speaker 1>the impression too that even amongst some of the Israeli elite,

530
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<v Speaker 1>there's quite a bit of not liking each other. So,

531
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<v Speaker 1>and that doesn't mean that there's not a Massad angle.

532
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<v Speaker 1>Obviously there is, but there might be people within Massad

533
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<v Speaker 1>that don't like Jeffrey Epstein, particularly Ari bin Minashi seems

534
00:36:38.679 --> 00:36:44.239
<v Speaker 1>to not like him. I think there's an email where

535
00:36:44.239 --> 00:36:47.280
<v Speaker 1>an Arianna to Rochald speaks like she doesn't really care

536
00:36:47.320 --> 00:36:49.840
<v Speaker 1>for Nun Yahoo. That doesn't make Nun Yahoo a good guy.

537
00:36:49.960 --> 00:36:53.280
<v Speaker 1>Just means that you can have criminals not like each

538
00:36:53.280 --> 00:36:56.400
<v Speaker 1>other and try to screw each other over, right, So

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00:36:58.760 --> 00:37:01.639
<v Speaker 1>there could be an angle too to where certain people

540
00:37:01.639 --> 00:37:03.679
<v Speaker 1>didn't like Epstein, certain people thought it would be good

541
00:37:03.679 --> 00:37:18.559
<v Speaker 1>to burn him. So that's another possibility. But count eight,

542
00:37:18.599 --> 00:37:24.519
<v Speaker 1>what's up? What's up? Everybody? We got about eighteen hundred

543
00:37:24.519 --> 00:37:29.000
<v Speaker 1>a minute ago, so this week was pretty pretty packed.

544
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<v Speaker 1>We had consistently two point five thousand live all week

545
00:37:33.119 --> 00:37:36.719
<v Speaker 1>and twenty to twenty five thousand live tuned in total.

546
00:37:37.280 --> 00:37:40.039
<v Speaker 1>I mean, obviously they get more views afterwards. We're getting

547
00:37:40.079 --> 00:37:42.239
<v Speaker 1>up forty fifty thousand views on a lot of the shows.

548
00:37:42.239 --> 00:37:48.880
<v Speaker 1>But what's up man? Hey, Jay, do you hear me? Okay?

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<v Speaker 7>So a lot of us like they're not specially hurst

550
00:37:53.719 --> 00:37:58.679
<v Speaker 7>in geopolitics, or economy of that kind of stuff, especially

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<v Speaker 7>before seeing this Epstein file release and after watching the

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00:38:04.719 --> 00:38:07.519
<v Speaker 7>the Epstein Banding interview. I don't know if he was

553
00:38:07.519 --> 00:38:10.840
<v Speaker 7>bullshitting or he was talking seriously the whole time, but

554
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<v Speaker 7>we had an image of these high profile elites, like

555
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<v Speaker 7>those high level influential personalities as some ultra sophisticated high

556
00:38:22.519 --> 00:38:29.719
<v Speaker 7>IQ I mean, high discipline people. But what the saga

557
00:38:29.880 --> 00:38:36.440
<v Speaker 7>just shows, in my opinion, is that those elite power circles,

558
00:38:37.079 --> 00:38:43.840
<v Speaker 7>it's just actually their willingness to discard ethics and through blackmail, exploitation,

559
00:38:44.000 --> 00:38:46.920
<v Speaker 7>that kind of stuff, that's what gives them an edge

560
00:38:47.079 --> 00:38:50.559
<v Speaker 7>rather than spurrior intelligence or sophistication.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't get the impression that Epstein is actually

562
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<v Speaker 1>a great intellectual. He just seems to be very adapt

563
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<v Speaker 1>at organizing, facilitating, networking, bullshitting, yapping. You know, even in

564
00:39:04.960 --> 00:39:07.320
<v Speaker 1>this in this Bannon interview, it's a lot of yapping,

565
00:39:07.440 --> 00:39:09.360
<v Speaker 1>and it's it's a lot of words, and it's a

566
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<v Speaker 1>lot of you know, citing things to sound smart.

567
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<v Speaker 5>Uh.

568
00:39:13.760 --> 00:39:16.960
<v Speaker 1>You know, he starts talking about Leibnitz and Leibnanz's philosophy,

569
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<v Speaker 1>and I don't think he really understands a lot of philosophy,

570
00:39:20.400 --> 00:39:23.559
<v Speaker 1>but it sounds you know, really really high Q high

571
00:39:23.599 --> 00:39:27.480
<v Speaker 1>i Q high tiered to noormies. But like you're saying,

572
00:39:27.840 --> 00:39:30.960
<v Speaker 1>what he does have a very adept understanding of is

573
00:39:31.119 --> 00:39:36.159
<v Speaker 1>criminal networks and organizing organizing crime. That's what he is

574
00:39:36.519 --> 00:39:39.639
<v Speaker 1>very good at that. He's that he seems to excel at.

575
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<v Speaker 1>And he wouldn't excel at that. I mean, he wouldn't

576
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<v Speaker 1>be put into the Trilateral Commission position according to the

577
00:39:47.119 --> 00:39:49.440
<v Speaker 1>first twenty minutes, as he says by David Rockefeller, if

578
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<v Speaker 1>he wasn't good at that, What does that tell you

579
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<v Speaker 1>about the trial? Louteral, this is high level criminals, high

580
00:39:54.599 --> 00:40:00.519
<v Speaker 1>level conman exactly. They're professional grifters, but not just like

581
00:40:01.159 --> 00:40:07.199
<v Speaker 1>you know Instagram influencer grifters, like high level blackmail, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, almost blowfeld types. M.

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<v Speaker 7>Also, what's striking is a also it's not just not

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<v Speaker 7>specially high IQ. It's also a striking like absence of

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<v Speaker 7>self discipline. I mean, they cannot get themselves to not

586
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<v Speaker 7>be bds.

587
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<v Speaker 1>Let's it.

588
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<v Speaker 7>Or they're just Also they believe in a lot of

589
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<v Speaker 7>low tear spiritual stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's like it's like New age kabalistic gibbergras is

591
00:40:39.559 --> 00:40:43.239
<v Speaker 1>what he says. Yeah, I mean Apstein doesn't really sound

592
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<v Speaker 1>any different than like an Instagram yoga chick. Like the

593
00:40:46.840 --> 00:40:48.920
<v Speaker 1>stuff he says is like the same level of that

594
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<v Speaker 1>kind of stuff. So it's not like he's this, you know,

595
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<v Speaker 1>savant like you know, polymath or something like maybe he did.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really know how well he knows mathematics. Haven't

597
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<v Speaker 1>looked into that, but I can tell you from philosophy

598
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<v Speaker 1>that it's it's a very because he wants to play

599
00:41:05.719 --> 00:41:08.360
<v Speaker 1>in this interview like he's like really deep into philosophy,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's like it's kind of it's really just normy

601
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<v Speaker 1>level stuff. It's not. I mean, it's like sounds like

602
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<v Speaker 1>a sophomore year philosophy student, is what it sounds like. So,

603
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<v Speaker 1>but I mean, you can be a kind of a

604
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<v Speaker 1>Blowfeld and be very good at criminal organization. I would

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<v Speaker 1>say he's kind of a he's an evil genius at

606
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<v Speaker 1>criminal organization. I don't know about mathematics or anything else,

607
00:41:37.599 --> 00:41:41.280
<v Speaker 1>but that's where he did seem to excel. Puny, what's up,

608
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<v Speaker 1>what's up?

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<v Speaker 2>How's it going clean?

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<v Speaker 8>So my question is it quickly essentially, you have a

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<v Speaker 8>background in kademia, right, and you have plenty of years

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<v Speaker 8>of studying and have a progress with whatever you've been

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<v Speaker 8>doing in terms of your studies as somebody like me

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<v Speaker 8>who is just a you know, full time worker and

615
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<v Speaker 8>then I go home to a family and everything like

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<v Speaker 8>that kind of cut off TV. I've been reading you

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<v Speaker 8>know that way. I don't speak so good, but I've

618
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<v Speaker 8>been trying to just really you know, expedite you know,

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<v Speaker 8>my studies and stuff like that. Would you recommend in

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<v Speaker 8>terms of finding maybe mentors or lectures and or just

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<v Speaker 8>study in general sent academia's compromised nowadays, that's pretty much ye.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it really kind of depends on what you

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<v Speaker 1>find interesting. So it sounds like you're saying your time

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<v Speaker 1>is limited, so you don't have a lot of time

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily to like study five different subjects. You know, if

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<v Speaker 1>you go to college or if you go to grad school,

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to be learning. If you do the arts,

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to study English, you're gonna study you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>study history, you're going to study philosophy. So it's quite

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<v Speaker 1>a broad spectrum that you would do in the classical

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<v Speaker 1>education model. So I would say you get a book

632
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<v Speaker 1>like the Quadrivium. That's a good book that ties a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of the disciplines together. It's a little square book

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<v Speaker 1>called Quadrivium. That's a good one to have. I would read,

635
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<v Speaker 1>you know, basics of philosophy, like Plato's Apology, Plato's dialogues.

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<v Speaker 1>Read some of those to get a feel for philosophy.

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<v Speaker 1>You could also get my philosophy course, which is in

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<v Speaker 1>the show description. It's a full twelve lecture kind of

639
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<v Speaker 1>masterclass course, twenty four hours plus of lectures, including guest

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<v Speaker 1>PhDs to come on and discuss the subjects. But I

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<v Speaker 1>got through the whole history of Western philosophy from the

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<v Speaker 1>Prestocratics all the way up to Nietzsche and Postmodernism. So

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<v Speaker 1>I would say, you know, that kind of stuff is

644
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<v Speaker 1>very helpful. Professor's lectures are very helpful. You could watch

645
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<v Speaker 1>Father deconductor Antonius's lectures at Patristic Faith. And then for

646
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<v Speaker 1>like geopolitical stuff. I mean, I do have a whole

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<v Speaker 1>series on my channel of writings of the Elite, and

648
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<v Speaker 1>you know we've gone through probably fifty sixty seventy of

649
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<v Speaker 1>those texts over the years. Over the last ten years,

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<v Speaker 1>I would say, be familiar with Tragian hope. That's a

651
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<v Speaker 1>great text for understanding geopolitics. You could get my Ester

652
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<v Speaker 1>Hollywood books to you know, tying in the geopolitical side

653
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<v Speaker 1>to movies. You could get Whitney Webb's book volume two

654
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<v Speaker 1>on Epstein and Maxwell. That's a really timely relevant one

655
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<v Speaker 1>right now. So those are good places to start. But

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<v Speaker 1>really it kind of also depends on your own personal interest.

657
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<v Speaker 1>You might not be interested in all of those topics. Milow,

658
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<v Speaker 1>And this is not the big Milow.

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<v Speaker 9>Would you be down for a tech question, quick tech question?

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<v Speaker 1>Sure? Sure.

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<v Speaker 9>So the texologism goes like this, right, if X is

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<v Speaker 9>necessary for why to exist and way exist, then therefore exists.

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<v Speaker 1>Right. Well, I don't know that it necessarily necessarily needs

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<v Speaker 1>to bring in existence. It's just necessary condition. So I

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<v Speaker 1>mean some for some forms of logic remove the existential

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<v Speaker 1>element or the ontological quantifiers. So for example, X is

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<v Speaker 1>the necessary condition of why why they'refore x and that

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't have any ontological weight kind of built into it.

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<v Speaker 9>Okay, perfect, And one of those transcendental categories is logic, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I would say logic is a necessary condition for knowledge.

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<v Speaker 1>So yes, I would say you'd have.

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<v Speaker 9>To say, yeah, and seeing some of your debates, I

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<v Speaker 9>don't know if I got this right, but I kind

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<v Speaker 9>of understood that the only thing that could make logic,

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<v Speaker 9>like from your position, the only thing that could make

676
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<v Speaker 9>logic possible is got s existence.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, ultimately a divine mind.

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<v Speaker 9>Yes, okay, so it wouldn't be possible. And for example,

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<v Speaker 9>and a purely just empirical world view worldview, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, empiris is about to do a theory of knowledge.

681
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<v Speaker 1>But I would say, like an atheistic materialist worldview, that's

682
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<v Speaker 1>an empiricist you know, focused worldview. Yeah, I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>they could give a justification for universal, abstract, invariant categories

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<v Speaker 1>or things like logic.

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<v Speaker 9>Okay, So here's my question. So you're saying, like I

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<v Speaker 9>don't get like I know that it like logic can't

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<v Speaker 9>be grounded like in a purely empirical view, because it

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<v Speaker 9>would like pre suppose that you know everything and you

689
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<v Speaker 9>don't know you know that every single thing doesn't contradict

690
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<v Speaker 9>logic in any way, right, But it doesn't mean that

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<v Speaker 9>logic is not possible, you know, Like, I don't know

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<v Speaker 9>if you understood what what I'm trying to say.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I'm not following you there can you can you

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<v Speaker 1>clarify that? What do you mean? Sure?

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<v Speaker 9>So, from a purely empirical view, it wouldn't be possible

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<v Speaker 9>to ground logic because that would presuppose you being able

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<v Speaker 9>to know every single thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And no, I say, yeah, so basically, right so, basically

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<v Speaker 1>because right so, because logic has this universal quality about

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<v Speaker 1>it for it to work, right, we don't We can't

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<v Speaker 1>have a we can't have a world where Okay, everything

702
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<v Speaker 1>on Earth is logical, but if you go under the Earth,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no logic down there, right, So it has to

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<v Speaker 1>be universal at all times in all places, and if

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<v Speaker 1>you're an empiricist, there's no way to justify any universal claim. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so here's my question.

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<v Speaker 9>Uh yeah, I know that it can't be grounded or justified,

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<v Speaker 9>but like, does that mean that it is impossible?

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<v Speaker 1>Say that again?

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<v Speaker 9>So I know that it can't be grounded, but I

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<v Speaker 9>don't know if if it not being able to be crowned,

712
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<v Speaker 9>it means therefore that it doesn't exist, Like maybe you

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<v Speaker 9>can exist, okay, but.

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<v Speaker 1>The problem is that there's like, well what that would mean.

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<v Speaker 1>What that would mean is that there's no good reason

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<v Speaker 1>to believe it. So if you give up grounding or

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<v Speaker 1>the necessity to give an account for to justify it.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no good reason to believe it. So if there's

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<v Speaker 1>no good reason to believe it, then there's no good

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<v Speaker 1>reason to believe it, or it's opposite or any other position.

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<v Speaker 1>So it really undercuts the whole point of saying, well,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe it just is the case, but we can't know it. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Well then it's kind of worthless to bring it up

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<v Speaker 1>in a debate at that point. I'm not being dick.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying that's that's how it goes. So I said,

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<v Speaker 1>Nick says he will do a massive Epstein stream. That's good.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it'd be good for him to get into

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<v Speaker 1>the information call attention to it. People could say, hey,

729
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<v Speaker 1>I've been covering it a NonStop all week in I

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<v Speaker 1>think we're going on to our fifteenth or sixteenth hour

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<v Speaker 1>of live streaming the Epstein stuff here tonight. And also

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<v Speaker 1>to so you know, there's been a lot of kerfluffle

733
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<v Speaker 1>to use sweet Candace's terminology kurfluffle kerf ruffle this week

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<v Speaker 1>over here on X with all of the the influencers

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<v Speaker 1>and face lords and commentators and whatnot. So I want

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<v Speaker 1>to make it clear that we responded to the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the jokes that Nick makes and so forth. I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to respond to jokes. That's fine. But again I want

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<v Speaker 1>to say, like, I don't have ill will towards Nick

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<v Speaker 1>Flint this. I'm not an enemy of Nick fuin this.

741
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<v Speaker 1>I've always been tried to be friendly, and you know,

742
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<v Speaker 1>I want to see people flourish. I don't hate Candace,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't hate any of the people. I want them

744
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<v Speaker 1>to do well. But I don't like to see people

745
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<v Speaker 1>get you know, deflected into bad ideas or whatever. So

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I appreciate, for example that when Nick was

747
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<v Speaker 1>on with Joel Webbin, he said, you know what, I

748
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<v Speaker 1>have to conceive that the papas he has gone in

749
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<v Speaker 1>the wrong direction when it comes to immigration and some

750
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<v Speaker 1>of the stuff at Vatican too. So I appreciate Nick

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<v Speaker 1>conceding that. So, you know, that was one of the

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<v Speaker 1>main critiques that I had. I would say, probably, I'm guessing,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but if Nick gets into the information

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<v Speaker 1>and he looks at a lot of the information, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I hope he comes to this. I think we would

756
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<v Speaker 1>come to the same conclusions here. So I reached out

757
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<v Speaker 1>to some people and I said, hey, here's Olive Branch.

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<v Speaker 1>I realized that when the clips channels put up the

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<v Speaker 1>stuff months ago that were old f wind test debates,

760
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<v Speaker 1>because somebody super cheted Nick about that old debate, the

761
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<v Speaker 1>clips channels put the debate up. Somebody said, are you

762
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<v Speaker 1>going to debate Nick? I said, I will debate Nick.

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<v Speaker 1>I would like to have another debate. Nick took that

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<v Speaker 1>as an attack, and I can understand why he would

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<v Speaker 1>feel that way. So I apologize for giving the impression

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<v Speaker 1>that I trying to be aggressive or come at Nick.

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<v Speaker 1>I know what it's like to feel like everybody's kind

768
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<v Speaker 1>of at your throat, everybody's trying to fight you and

769
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<v Speaker 1>disagree with you. So I apologize for giving the impression

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<v Speaker 1>that I wanted to be aggressive or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>And people then say, well, you're only talking about this

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<v Speaker 1>because you want to write his coat tails and you're jealous,

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<v Speaker 1>and look't Nick doesn't have to talk to me. We

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to have any kind of a I don't

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<v Speaker 1>need to ride his coat tails or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not trying to grift on Nick or any of that.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't need any kind of public thing. I wish

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<v Speaker 1>Nick the best. If you would like to discuss these topics,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm more than happy to give a friendly explanation of

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<v Speaker 1>the positions. And you know, I don't have any ill will.

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<v Speaker 1>I want people to become orthodox. I want people to

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<v Speaker 1>give that a chance. I want people to hear what

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<v Speaker 1>we have to say, whether it's Candae, whether it's Nick.

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<v Speaker 1>And again, you know, most of the positions when it

785
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<v Speaker 1>comes to the geopolitical stuff that comes out, when it

786
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<v Speaker 1>comes to the information as it comes out, most of

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<v Speaker 1>the time we end up coming to the same conclusions

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<v Speaker 1>on a lot of things, maybe not everything, and a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of things that Nick comes to. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to alignment, we tend to be geopolitically aligned.

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<v Speaker 1>And when he concedes those points on the Vatican and whatnot,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's a strong point. Are we do the

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<v Speaker 1>stream cutout? Are we still hear it? Makeing sure it

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<v Speaker 1>looks like it am. I have just refreshed. So I

795
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<v Speaker 1>sent out some statements to mutual friends because I don't

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<v Speaker 1>actually have any direct flint test information, So I don't like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have his contact info or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 1>So I just told some friends that knew him and

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<v Speaker 1>I said, hey, reach out. I said it to Tim

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<v Speaker 1>Gordon as well. I said, look all the branch, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to fight with Nick Flint, Tess. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>dislike Nick Flint this on any personal level. I did

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<v Speaker 1>say some things in DMS that I wish that he

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<v Speaker 1>hadn't said. But hopefully, you know, he understood that I

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<v Speaker 1>was explaining my situation as to why certain things in

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<v Speaker 1>certain outlets I don't talk about, like YouTube and so forth.

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<v Speaker 1>I did undergo quite a bit of deplatforming and persecution

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<v Speaker 1>as well for talking about these subjects. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>to cast it as if I don't talk about dangerous

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<v Speaker 1>things and I've never been persecuted. That's not true. So

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<v Speaker 1>but he may not be aware of the elements of

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<v Speaker 1>things that I've gone through. So I haven't made it

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<v Speaker 1>a big part of what we talk about over here.

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<v Speaker 1>When he says something about us, I do respond. So

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<v Speaker 1>I have responded in the last several months to I

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<v Speaker 1>think five different times that he's brought me up. And look,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's friendly, silly banter. So you know, if people

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<v Speaker 1>can make fun of me, I don't see why I

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<v Speaker 1>can't make a joke back. But I think the merch

820
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<v Speaker 1>was a miss. I think the position on the conspiracy

821
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<v Speaker 1>hard stuff is a mistake. However he may have meant Candace,

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<v Speaker 1>So I would agree with Nick. I think Nick and

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<v Speaker 1>I have been on the very same page with Candace,

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot of stuff that Candace has said I

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<v Speaker 1>think is getting crazy. And really the only position that

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<v Speaker 1>I mainly disagree with was the Vatican take in regard

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<v Speaker 1>to the idea that well, the Roman Catholic Church has

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of made some bad political positions. Well, the

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<v Speaker 1>problem with that is that the political positions reflect Gaudium

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<v Speaker 1>at Spez, which is part of Vatican two, and also

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<v Speaker 1>Noceritate and Lumigentium are Vatican two documents as well. So

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<v Speaker 1>like the theology and the geopolitics, they actually go together

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<v Speaker 1>because a lot of people don't realize like humanism is

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<v Speaker 1>a geopolitical movement as well, and that's what we see

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<v Speaker 1>in the David Wimhoff text that we've covered. So so

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<v Speaker 1>there's my offering of you know, let's have a why

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<v Speaker 1>don't we have a what if we Here's what I

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<v Speaker 1>think could work. And again I'm not saying this because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to get attention. I would be happy to

840
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<v Speaker 1>have a private conversation that nobody hears. We could have

841
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<v Speaker 1>Tim Gordon there as well, other Catholics as well, So

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I constantly try to explain that, like I

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<v Speaker 1>want to see people do well and flourish, and I

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<v Speaker 1>try to give olid branches and then usually what I

845
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<v Speaker 1>get in response is, you know, pretty rough things back.

846
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<v Speaker 1>So that kind of puts me then in a defensive mode. Again.

847
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<v Speaker 1>It's like, well, all right, so every time you try to,

848
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<v Speaker 1>you know, offer an olive branch, it seems to get

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<v Speaker 1>you know, discarded. So you know, whatever, Look, I don't

850
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<v Speaker 1>want to like I've had the same message for ten years.

851
00:55:58.000 --> 00:56:02.320
<v Speaker 1>I tell everybody the same thing, So you know, that's

852
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<v Speaker 1>the best I can do. I guess, Dimitri, what's up.

853
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<v Speaker 1>I think that it's important for us as Orthodox to

854
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<v Speaker 1>do to handle all these situations the most in the

855
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<v Speaker 1>most righteous way, and so I don't go after people's

856
00:56:26.320 --> 00:56:29.159
<v Speaker 1>private drama. Never done that. I only talk about the

857
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<v Speaker 1>issues where I disagree. I'm not going after I don't

858
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<v Speaker 1>talk about Elijah Shaeffer's issues and Sarah stocks issues. We

859
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<v Speaker 1>don't do personal drama over We stick to the topics

860
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<v Speaker 1>and the issues a lot of people do the drama streams.

861
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<v Speaker 1>I've never really done that, so I would think you

862
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<v Speaker 1>guys would have the people would appreciate that we only

863
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<v Speaker 1>talk about and specifically go against the issues of the

864
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<v Speaker 1>areas of disagreement. And I'm spurgery like that, Like I

865
00:56:57.599 --> 00:57:00.199
<v Speaker 1>don't go after people's personal lives. Ever, we don't ever

866
00:57:00.239 --> 00:57:01.239
<v Speaker 1>do that. What's up? Man?

867
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<v Speaker 8>Oh hey, I have a question, and you know I'm

868
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<v Speaker 8>a big fan of your show, and it's about what

869
00:57:09.960 --> 00:57:11.159
<v Speaker 8>do you saw something Donald Trump?

870
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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I've always had pretty much the same position

871
00:57:15.320 --> 00:57:17.840
<v Speaker 1>about any politician. Uh you know, when they if they

872
00:57:17.920 --> 00:57:20.719
<v Speaker 1>ever rarely do something good, then I guess that's great.

873
00:57:21.760 --> 00:57:25.719
<v Speaker 1>Most of the time they don't. I mean, I've been

874
00:57:25.800 --> 00:57:29.840
<v Speaker 1>post politics for a long time. I never really had

875
00:57:29.960 --> 00:57:35.119
<v Speaker 1>a huge expectations, so I don't. I don't know what

876
00:57:35.320 --> 00:57:38.760
<v Speaker 1>people are looking for with that. I mean kind of

877
00:57:38.760 --> 00:57:41.800
<v Speaker 1>the same way I view Putin, Like I don't worship Putin.

878
00:57:41.920 --> 00:57:45.960
<v Speaker 1>If Putin does something good, that's great, but uh, trust

879
00:57:46.000 --> 00:57:48.920
<v Speaker 1>not in princes and sons of men. Scripture says, what's up?

880
00:57:50.000 --> 00:57:51.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean we sing that every time in the liturgy, right,

881
00:57:51.800 --> 00:57:54.199
<v Speaker 1>every liturgy is trust not in princes and sons of men?

882
00:57:54.239 --> 00:58:00.119
<v Speaker 1>What's up? What's up? So I have a question. And

883
00:58:00.280 --> 00:58:03.559
<v Speaker 1>so regarding tech, so.

884
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<v Speaker 10>I watched the videos on tech to trinity and everything,

885
00:58:09.960 --> 00:58:12.920
<v Speaker 10>but I still don't get how that gets you to

886
00:58:13.760 --> 00:58:16.480
<v Speaker 10>the Bible and Christianity in specific.

887
00:58:17.719 --> 00:58:21.159
<v Speaker 1>Okay, but the Bible in Christianity is the only religion

888
00:58:21.159 --> 00:58:27.480
<v Speaker 1>that even posits a personal triad. So what what other

889
00:58:27.599 --> 00:58:30.440
<v Speaker 1>what other trinity? What other personal triad trinity would it

890
00:58:30.440 --> 00:58:37.719
<v Speaker 1>get you to? Well, it could just be like in deism,

891
00:58:37.920 --> 00:58:43.039
<v Speaker 1>just like a generic Again, it's not Deism wouldn't work

892
00:58:43.079 --> 00:58:46.400
<v Speaker 1>because deism wouldn't ground any of the universal categories because

893
00:58:46.480 --> 00:58:48.960
<v Speaker 1>deism is a religion where or it's a pseudo religion

894
00:58:49.000 --> 00:58:51.079
<v Speaker 1>is an atheistic position where you don't have any connection

895
00:58:51.159 --> 00:58:54.360
<v Speaker 1>to the deity. The deity is not related to this world.

896
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<v Speaker 1>So it wouldn't do any of the grounding work. Aiden,

897
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<v Speaker 1>what's up? I'm you? Aiden? Do you hear me? Yeah?

898
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<v Speaker 1>There we go, It's okay. I gotta I have two

899
00:59:15.719 --> 00:59:21.280
<v Speaker 1>questions for you. The first one, I'm really curious if

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<v Speaker 1>you I think you would say that you at least

901
00:59:25.199 --> 00:59:26.880
<v Speaker 1>hope for I.

902
00:59:26.760 --> 00:59:30.400
<v Speaker 11>Personally believe that America will will will become Orthodox.

903
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<v Speaker 1>What do you think that looks like? Do you think

904
00:59:33.440 --> 00:59:40.559
<v Speaker 1>that will be you cut out? Man, I can't hear

905
00:59:40.559 --> 00:59:44.159
<v Speaker 1>you kind of. I mean, we're a long time from that,

906
00:59:44.400 --> 00:59:46.239
<v Speaker 1>so I don't know what. I don't know what you

907
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<v Speaker 1>mean by what does that look like? I hope so JB.

908
00:59:49.559 --> 00:59:51.599
<v Speaker 1>Pild five dollars do did a great job. The internet

909
00:59:51.760 --> 00:59:55.440
<v Speaker 1>is spazzing out and this is a hot topic. Thank you.

910
00:59:55.440 --> 00:59:57.480
<v Speaker 1>You tell about Epstein? Ye, But John M. Pilton dollars,

911
00:59:57.519 --> 00:59:59.159
<v Speaker 1>I'm a traditional Catholic. I'm sure you've been asked this

912
00:59:59.239 --> 01:00:01.159
<v Speaker 1>many times. What is the straw that broke the camel's

913
01:00:01.199 --> 01:00:06.079
<v Speaker 1>back for you? As a traditional Catholic? Nick says he

914
01:00:06.119 --> 01:00:13.119
<v Speaker 1>will do a super stream on Epstein. Well, there wasn't

915
01:00:13.119 --> 01:00:14.960
<v Speaker 1>like one thing, I think for me, you know, it

916
01:00:15.000 --> 01:00:17.679
<v Speaker 1>was a long it was a long journey. It took

917
01:00:17.719 --> 01:00:19.840
<v Speaker 1>me a long time to come out of tradcatism because

918
01:00:19.840 --> 01:00:21.880
<v Speaker 1>I was I was really into it. I was wedded

919
01:00:21.920 --> 01:00:27.159
<v Speaker 1>to it for most of my twenties. I think the

920
01:00:27.199 --> 01:00:33.480
<v Speaker 1>big the big thing was ultimately probably just if you read,

921
01:00:33.960 --> 01:00:37.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, the sixteen Papal Documents book from Tan Publishers,

922
01:00:37.519 --> 01:00:41.519
<v Speaker 1>and then you compare that to what is obviously not

923
01:00:41.559 --> 01:00:44.360
<v Speaker 1>just Vatican two, but the entire teaching of the papacy

924
01:00:44.400 --> 01:00:48.199
<v Speaker 1>and its magisterium since Vatican Two, there's just a mountain

925
01:00:48.239 --> 01:00:52.239
<v Speaker 1>of contradictions. And I tried all the different routes for

926
01:00:52.320 --> 01:00:57.440
<v Speaker 1>many years to synthesize it, you know, the traditional reading,

927
01:00:57.639 --> 01:01:00.960
<v Speaker 1>the reading of the hermonutic of continuity, and on and

928
01:01:01.039 --> 01:01:03.360
<v Speaker 1>on on and and eventually, at the end of the day,

929
01:01:03.360 --> 01:01:06.159
<v Speaker 1>you just get to the point where you realize, Okay,

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01:01:06.199 --> 01:01:09.960
<v Speaker 1>even if I have all this criminutic of continuity that

931
01:01:10.000 --> 01:01:11.679
<v Speaker 1>tries to make it all work, or I try to

932
01:01:11.679 --> 01:01:14.119
<v Speaker 1>become a set of a contest and reconcile the system,

933
01:01:14.159 --> 01:01:16.880
<v Speaker 1>and like, at the end of the day, the papacy

934
01:01:17.039 --> 01:01:20.119
<v Speaker 1>hates you. And once you kind of come to realization

935
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<v Speaker 1>that do the papacy doesn't want you or the trads

936
01:01:23.599 --> 01:01:27.199
<v Speaker 1>anywhere near Catholicism. They're ready for you to leave. I

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01:01:27.280 --> 01:01:31.360
<v Speaker 1>was like, okay, I'm done being you know, a Stockholm

938
01:01:31.400 --> 01:01:37.559
<v Speaker 1>syndrome person like people that like don't like you or

939
01:01:37.599 --> 01:01:40.079
<v Speaker 1>don't like me. I'm not going to keep sucking up

940
01:01:40.119 --> 01:01:42.800
<v Speaker 1>and being like, please like me, please like me. You know,

941
01:01:42.840 --> 01:01:46.320
<v Speaker 1>I'd give offers of all a branch and let's let's

942
01:01:46.360 --> 01:01:49.239
<v Speaker 1>not be enemies here, Let's try to talk it out.

943
01:01:49.320 --> 01:01:52.239
<v Speaker 1>Let's have a conversation, you know, let's say with Nick

944
01:01:52.320 --> 01:01:53.559
<v Speaker 1>or something like that. But I mean, at the end

945
01:01:53.599 --> 01:01:55.039
<v Speaker 1>of the day, like if people just I'm not going

946
01:01:55.119 --> 01:01:57.039
<v Speaker 1>to keep doing that. Like at a certain point, it's like,

947
01:01:57.480 --> 01:02:00.079
<v Speaker 1>all right, I've tried all of you know, everything I

948
01:02:00.159 --> 01:02:03.000
<v Speaker 1>can do extended on my side. It's the same way

949
01:02:03.039 --> 01:02:06.719
<v Speaker 1>with power structures too. It's like the power structure doesn't

950
01:02:06.760 --> 01:02:10.159
<v Speaker 1>want you there, Like, why are you fighting for people

951
01:02:10.159 --> 01:02:13.480
<v Speaker 1>that hate you? It doesn't make any sense. Kim, what's up?

952
01:02:18.360 --> 01:02:21.880
<v Speaker 1>Goober gang? Twenty dollars? Jay? Would you debate Jacob Hanson?

953
01:02:23.039 --> 01:02:25.280
<v Speaker 1>I think we've asked that guy to call in many times.

954
01:02:26.239 --> 01:02:29.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if he'll ever call in, But I mean,

955
01:02:29.920 --> 01:02:32.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't think we're going to get I mean maybe

956
01:02:32.480 --> 01:02:36.880
<v Speaker 1>down the road if there's some high profile podcasts to

957
01:02:36.920 --> 01:02:41.760
<v Speaker 1>do that or something. He claims that you won't debate him,

958
01:02:42.000 --> 01:02:45.159
<v Speaker 1>I don't. I don't know where he's getting that. What's up?

959
01:02:46.159 --> 01:02:46.320
<v Speaker 12>Hey?

960
01:02:46.400 --> 01:02:46.599
<v Speaker 1>Jay?

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<v Speaker 13>So I am I was born and raised Catholic, and I'm.

962
01:02:51.639 --> 01:02:53.920
<v Speaker 1>Have my mind made up. I want to convert to Orthodoxy.

963
01:02:55.480 --> 01:02:56.960
<v Speaker 1>There are two things that I.

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<v Speaker 13>Don't know how to descend though, when I'm talking about

965
01:03:01.480 --> 01:03:04.800
<v Speaker 13>other when I'm talking to other Catholics about Orthodoxy, and

966
01:03:04.840 --> 01:03:09.719
<v Speaker 13>I haven't found any videos that you do on it.

967
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<v Speaker 13>The first one is how not all of Orthodoxy agrees

968
01:03:14.679 --> 01:03:20.760
<v Speaker 13>on rebaptism, And then the second one is, I guess

969
01:03:20.800 --> 01:03:25.159
<v Speaker 13>just the issue of like how would the Orthodox Church

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01:03:25.360 --> 01:03:28.000
<v Speaker 13>hold an ecumenical council.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, first of all, ecumenical councils aren't even necessary for

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01:03:35.119 --> 01:03:37.800
<v Speaker 1>the church. There was no ecumenical council for three hundred

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01:03:37.880 --> 01:03:41.000
<v Speaker 1>years of the church. So I mean those are kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like those are sort of Roman Catholic categories that

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01:03:44.880 --> 01:03:48.079
<v Speaker 1>they sort of impose their system and say, well, when

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01:03:48.119 --> 01:03:50.920
<v Speaker 1>are you going to have the you know, Roman Catholic

977
01:03:51.000 --> 01:03:55.039
<v Speaker 1>model operating? And then I'll you know, then I'll believe

978
01:03:55.079 --> 01:03:56.719
<v Speaker 1>your system. And it's like, well, but we don't have

979
01:03:56.760 --> 01:03:59.400
<v Speaker 1>that system, so you have to understand it's a different system.

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01:03:59.800 --> 01:04:03.920
<v Speaker 1>So so Father John Whiteford has a talk right here

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01:04:04.280 --> 01:04:08.119
<v Speaker 1>that I would recommend with David Rhon and it's Baptism

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<v Speaker 1>and the Reception of Converts. It's a really good video

983
01:04:10.559 --> 01:04:14.679
<v Speaker 1>going through that topic. So Baptism and the Reception of

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01:04:14.719 --> 01:04:18.840
<v Speaker 1>Converts Father John Whiteford and David Ahhun right there, okay,

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01:04:19.639 --> 01:04:28.039
<v Speaker 1>And then in regard to ecamenical councils, I would, I mean,

986
01:04:28.079 --> 01:04:31.920
<v Speaker 1>we've covered that topic many, many times, but it's oftentimes

987
01:04:31.960 --> 01:04:34.199
<v Speaker 1>in these long livestreams, so I don't actually think of

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01:04:34.400 --> 01:04:38.000
<v Speaker 1>a I can't think of a single live stream where

989
01:04:38.000 --> 01:04:42.199
<v Speaker 1>it's where it's necessarily covered as an issue. But I

990
01:04:42.239 --> 01:04:45.599
<v Speaker 1>mean it's it's it's not really there orth like churches

991
01:04:45.639 --> 01:04:48.440
<v Speaker 1>functioning like the church functions in the first thousand years.

992
01:04:48.440 --> 01:04:52.800
<v Speaker 1>So for example, there's many situations in the Roman Catholic

993
01:04:52.880 --> 01:04:55.360
<v Speaker 1>list of numbering that doesn't make any sense. Like even

994
01:04:55.360 --> 01:04:58.760
<v Speaker 1>in the Roman Catholic system they could say, well, we

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01:04:58.880 --> 01:05:00.920
<v Speaker 1>have at least a way to have that medical councils

996
01:05:00.920 --> 01:05:05.239
<v Speaker 1>with the papacy. Their system itself doesn't have any coherent

997
01:05:05.280 --> 01:05:09.119
<v Speaker 1>way to list or explain ecumenical councils. For example, latter

998
01:05:09.159 --> 01:05:12.519
<v Speaker 1>in six forty nine, by their reckoning, should be an

999
01:05:12.559 --> 01:05:15.159
<v Speaker 1>ecumenical council, and it was supposed to be. It was

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<v Speaker 1>one of the first councils called by the pope and

1001
01:05:17.239 --> 01:05:20.239
<v Speaker 1>not by an emperor. And even Roman Catholics don't list

1002
01:05:20.360 --> 01:05:23.239
<v Speaker 1>latter in six forty nine as an ecumenical Council. So

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<v Speaker 1>why would you have the six Econimical Council meeting in

1004
01:05:26.960 --> 01:05:30.760
<v Speaker 1>six eighty six to decide an issue which supposedly should

1005
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<v Speaker 1>have been already reconciled in six forty nine at the

1006
01:05:33.760 --> 01:05:37.000
<v Speaker 1>first latter in council. So like that doesn't make any

1007
01:05:37.039 --> 01:05:40.760
<v Speaker 1>sense in their reckoning. Plus, consider the fact that ecumenical

1008
01:05:40.760 --> 01:05:43.280
<v Speaker 1>councils from a Roman Catholic perspective, according to Vatican One,

1009
01:05:43.320 --> 01:05:47.760
<v Speaker 1>are subservient to the papacy. And yet we have at

1010
01:05:47.760 --> 01:05:51.599
<v Speaker 1>the Council of Constance a unicumenical council above the papacy

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01:05:51.679 --> 01:05:54.719
<v Speaker 1>because it's the council that decides which pope is the

1012
01:05:54.760 --> 01:05:57.480
<v Speaker 1>true pope when there's three rival popes during the Great

1013
01:05:57.480 --> 01:06:00.960
<v Speaker 1>Western Schism, So which one is it? Is the pope

1014
01:06:00.960 --> 01:06:03.920
<v Speaker 1>Abova council or is he subservient to it? Well, what

1015
01:06:03.960 --> 01:06:06.039
<v Speaker 1>this shows you is that we'll clearly the papacy then

1016
01:06:06.119 --> 01:06:10.639
<v Speaker 1>is an evolving doctrinal development position. But that means that

1017
01:06:10.719 --> 01:06:13.079
<v Speaker 1>if it evolved and developed, then Vatican one is not

1018
01:06:13.119 --> 01:06:15.079
<v Speaker 1>true because it claims that it was always the case.

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<v Speaker 1>So over and over and over we see that their

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<v Speaker 1>expectation for us is something that their system doesn't offer

1021
01:06:24.519 --> 01:06:29.960
<v Speaker 1>even make sense of and why would we expect that

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<v Speaker 1>there has to be ecumenical councils when there is no

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01:06:33.639 --> 01:06:41.840
<v Speaker 1>eikumene or imperium. Furthermore, post eighth ecumenical Council, we have

1024
01:06:42.280 --> 01:06:44.880
<v Speaker 1>universally accepted in the entire world of Orthodoxy is the

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<v Speaker 1>ninth Council, which is the Palamite Synods. So there have

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<v Speaker 1>been pan Orthodox accepted teachings and councils in Dogmas post

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<v Speaker 1>even eighth Council. Jack, what's up? Uh? Yeah, thanks, thanks

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<v Speaker 1>for giving me another shot here. I actually do want

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about this. I am a you call me

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<v Speaker 1>a trad cap I frankly.

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<v Speaker 3>I just come from an atheist family and I'm just

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<v Speaker 3>trying to follow my way to Jesus Christ and that's

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<v Speaker 3>gone through the Catholic Church.

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<v Speaker 1>So uh, you called me a troll.

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<v Speaker 3>One time when when I called it on a debate

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<v Speaker 3>several months ago. But I just want to ask you

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<v Speaker 3>a couple like a pointed just just really one pointing

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<v Speaker 3>question about this. To Kin's point, when like you, you

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<v Speaker 3>see things like contraception, the fact that from what I

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<v Speaker 3>can see, that's not universally opposed in the.

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<v Speaker 1>Worth doc church.

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<v Speaker 3>There are instances in which it is relegated to preests

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<v Speaker 3>from what I understand.

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<v Speaker 1>Correct, have you have you seen have you seen have

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01:08:08.679 --> 01:08:14.760
<v Speaker 1>you seen Ubi's documentary? Yeah? Did you watch Ubi's documentary

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<v Speaker 1>on this topic?

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<v Speaker 3>I did not.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you can you blink me to it? Or yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>So Ubi Patris in the chat. Yeah, we've already covered

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<v Speaker 1>this one hundred times, Ubi Patris. That's why we did

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<v Speaker 1>two different videos on this two different documentars, a documentary

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<v Speaker 1>and a interview with doctor Bradshaw on this topic.

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<v Speaker 4>You understand, did the page I'm not.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not trying to be combative or anything.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just genuinely curious if you could give me the

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<v Speaker 3>spark notes here.

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<v Speaker 1>But well, that's why we made this documentary. Sounds good,

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<v Speaker 1>all right? I what are some what are some other issues?

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<v Speaker 1>So it's right here. One of them is it's called

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<v Speaker 1>contraception n FP and humana vita. This is one of

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<v Speaker 1>the videos. And then the other one is I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's called divorce and remarriage, but it also gets into

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<v Speaker 1>what you're referring to here. It is divorce and re

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<v Speaker 1>marriage in the early Church fathers. So there's two different ones,

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01:09:13.399 --> 01:09:18.359
<v Speaker 1>contraception and then divorce and remarriage. Why did the papacy

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<v Speaker 1>accept the Basilian Canons?

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<v Speaker 3>Jack, Oh, well, listen, I'm not super well versed on

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<v Speaker 3>these things.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to speak out of turn here. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't even know what those are. No, So, the Canons

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<v Speaker 1>of Saint Basil, the Canons of Saint Basil are the

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<v Speaker 1>Eastern normative canon law for many centuries. Rome had no

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<v Speaker 1>problem with the Basilian Canons, the Canons of Saint Basil,

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<v Speaker 1>and they allow for certain circumstances like fornication for there

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<v Speaker 1>to be remarriage. And by the way, UBI also shows

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<v Speaker 1>examples of popes per divorce and remarriage in the first

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<v Speaker 1>thousand years. And so it's just it becomes a really annoying,

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<v Speaker 1>just moral want to be trump card that you guys

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<v Speaker 1>don't actually have. Well, what's up, Hey, Jay, what's up?

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<v Speaker 1>What's your question?

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<v Speaker 14>Hey Jay?

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<v Speaker 12>I've seriously been enjoying the streams this past week or so,

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<v Speaker 12>especially the one when Epstein's trying to figure out how

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<v Speaker 12>to get the kosher pig kosher pigs.

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<v Speaker 1>That one was hilarious. One. I wanted to.

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<v Speaker 12>Know if you have heard or seen any evangelical leaders

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<v Speaker 12>mentioned in the files or corresponding with Epstein A really

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<v Speaker 12>good question.

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<v Speaker 1>Should not. I don't even know if anybody's even thought

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<v Speaker 1>to look at that, but they should. That's a great question,

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<v Speaker 1>really good.

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<v Speaker 12>Well one one one name comes to mind, Jerry Folwell

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<v Speaker 12>as a as a Liberty UNI as a Liberty University

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01:11:15.600 --> 01:11:21.399
<v Speaker 12>student myself. That really does interest me. I know that

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01:11:21.520 --> 01:11:24.359
<v Speaker 12>he was down in Miami a lot. That's where he

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<v Speaker 12>met his wife's boyfriend. And it just it would not

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<v Speaker 12>surprise me him being in that upper echelon of of society.

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<v Speaker 12>Interested to know if if, if his or any other

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<v Speaker 12>big names are mentioned. Uh. I did have another thing

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<v Speaker 12>I wanted to mention, and it was a caller that

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<v Speaker 12>called in either earlier this week or later last week,

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<v Speaker 12>and that one my question revolves around the forthcoming Bethels scandal.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh that has has recently. Yes, I don't uh like

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Winger at all. I don't know anything about Mike

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01:12:09.439 --> 01:12:12.680
<v Speaker 1>Winger other than that people are saying that he is

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<v Speaker 1>covering this well, which I don't even know what this is. Uh,

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01:12:17.960 --> 01:12:20.359
<v Speaker 1>he did a five hour live stream.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, he's he's clearly a goober. But you know, bethel

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<v Speaker 12>Is is a is the powerhouse for pumping out the

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<v Speaker 12>trancelike worship songs that a ton of churches around the

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<v Speaker 12>world use, especially in the US.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, even if they.

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<v Speaker 12>Don't subscribe to the charismatic thing?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay? Can can somebody give me the the t L

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<v Speaker 1>d R. I don't I'm not going to watch a

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<v Speaker 1>five hour Mike Winger stream. What's the basic idea?

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<v Speaker 12>Well, as far as I know, it revolves around a

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<v Speaker 12>profit type guy that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's already off to a bad start, so I know.

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<v Speaker 12>Right, yeah, But he was endorsed by Bill Johnson, who

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<v Speaker 12>I believe uh knew of his you know, uh Shenanigans?

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<v Speaker 1>And and who and who is who is Bill Johnson?

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<v Speaker 1>Help me understand? Who's Bill Johnson? I don't know these names?

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<v Speaker 1>Who are these people?

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<v Speaker 12>Bill Johnson is like top man at Bethel Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>And and and is this a megachurch or like a

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<v Speaker 1>megachurch that makes music like Hillsong or what exactly is it?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh?

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<v Speaker 15>Oh?

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<v Speaker 12>Bethel is identical to Hillsong in that they're an international,

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<v Speaker 12>multi campus uh charismatic, crazy cult church. But the majority,

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<v Speaker 12>I mean a ton of evangelical churches of all denominations

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<v Speaker 12>have to subscribe to be able to play their music

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<v Speaker 12>in their churches. On top of that, they have like

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<v Speaker 12>a college of some sort.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't get a degree, you.

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<v Speaker 12>Get a certificate, and supposedly, by the time you graduate,

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<v Speaker 12>you'll be able to do all of these superhuman feats

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<v Speaker 12>like praying people back to life, praying people, you know,

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01:14:26.640 --> 01:14:30.840
<v Speaker 12>to have cancer cured, and what have you. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 12>Bill Johnson has he has supported this profit type guy

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<v Speaker 12>who is a sexual deviate under you know, under the surface.

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<v Speaker 1>But he's a prophet.

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<v Speaker 12>Suppose yeah, he's a prophet's he was. He was brought

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<v Speaker 12>around to different conferences that Bethel would put on. He'd

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<v Speaker 12>come and visit different campuses that Beth has, you know,

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<v Speaker 12>like a paid to play type of guy. But he

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<v Speaker 12>would prophesy over people that were in the crowd, and

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<v Speaker 12>all his prophecies revolved around was easily accessible information on

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<v Speaker 12>people that he knew were in the crowd, So he'd

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<v Speaker 12>go on their facebooks, he'd go on their instagrams. He'd

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01:15:25.760 --> 01:15:29.880
<v Speaker 12>scrape up some corny info from that and then use

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<v Speaker 12>that in his you know, live prophesying at these events.

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<v Speaker 16>On top of.

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<v Speaker 12>Like being a sexual deb.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, well, you know, it's almost always these sort of

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<v Speaker 1>like so called profits that it's like like Joseph Smith

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01:15:49.479 --> 01:15:51.960
<v Speaker 1>or that are just like in some kind of crazy

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<v Speaker 1>sex goal. So no shocker there, Archer. What's up, man, Okay,

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01:15:58.079 --> 01:15:59.640
<v Speaker 1>what's up? What's on your mind?

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<v Speaker 3>What's on the line is.

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<v Speaker 1>The Epstein files.

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<v Speaker 11>I mean, I saw you retweeted a couple of things,

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<v Speaker 11>and it kind of seems.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you're, I guess, pushing this.

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<v Speaker 11>I mean, there's a lot of misinformation and franking, fake bullshit,

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<v Speaker 11>and I saw you repost a few of them, which

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<v Speaker 11>doesn't really feel intellectually rigorous.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I mean I could have made him. I could

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01:16:20.840 --> 01:16:22.760
<v Speaker 1>have made a mistake. Sure which one did I mess

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<v Speaker 1>up on? Well, there's a few.

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<v Speaker 11>I mean, like, well, most of the stuff that's going

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<v Speaker 11>on Twitter is is this when it's the screenshots and stuff.

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<v Speaker 11>But for example, the picture of Jeffrey Epstein has the

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<v Speaker 11>little girl on his lap and he's sitting with a

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01:16:35.439 --> 01:16:39.039
<v Speaker 11>Duban guy, Glenn Dubin. That's literally his daughter, that's Jeffrey

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<v Speaker 11>Epstein's goddaughter. And then everyone made this insinuation that he's

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<v Speaker 11>like raping this little girl.

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<v Speaker 1>It's absurd. Okay, I don't even think I shared that photo.

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<v Speaker 1>I may have. I may have, but then then there

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<v Speaker 1>was the other one of them. Well, first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>that is still a suspect, because what do you mean, like, like,

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<v Speaker 1>anybody bringing their children to that guy is immediately suspect.

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<v Speaker 1>So why would that be dis info? Even that?

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<v Speaker 11>Okay, well it's his goddaughter friends with Glenn Dubin, So

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<v Speaker 11>Glenn Duben will.

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<v Speaker 1>Bring his daughter around. Well, so these people don't know

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<v Speaker 1>who this person is, and like, who would bring who

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<v Speaker 1>would bring your children around this guy?

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<v Speaker 7>Well?

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, I mean, okay, sure, but that doesn't really matter

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<v Speaker 11>when they're friends.

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<v Speaker 13>You know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Like that, No, it absolutely doesn't matter. In fact that

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01:17:21.840 --> 01:17:23.720
<v Speaker 1>their friends makes it even worse. What are you talking about?

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01:17:23.800 --> 01:17:28.920
<v Speaker 1>Your trolling? What do you trolling? Get out of here, dude,

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01:17:28.920 --> 01:17:31.960
<v Speaker 1>fuck you trash. See this is he thinks that's funny

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<v Speaker 1>to cover up for Epstein. He thinks that's funny. Intellectually rigorous. Yeah,

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01:17:42.079 --> 01:17:43.960
<v Speaker 1>what would you what would be revealed or happen in

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01:17:43.960 --> 01:17:48.640
<v Speaker 1>the world for your worldview to be incorrect? Faraden says

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01:17:48.640 --> 01:17:52.399
<v Speaker 1>for five dollars, well done with these emails. You seem

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01:17:52.439 --> 01:17:56.720
<v Speaker 1>to be the one covering it. Uh, I mean I

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01:17:56.760 --> 01:18:01.439
<v Speaker 1>think that if anybody's worldview would be undone if there's

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<v Speaker 1>a fundamental, like paradigm level contradiction. So but I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't see how that could be given the I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that's really what we hinge our world view on. So

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<v Speaker 1>what's up, Hi? How you doing? I have a question

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<v Speaker 1>for you? Yeah, That's why I said, yeah, what's up?

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<v Speaker 1>She right? I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 17>So are you aware of the stream that Ben did

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<v Speaker 17>yesterday about the couplistic roots and Protestantism.

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<v Speaker 1>I have heard Anthony Westgate's take on some of that,

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<v Speaker 1>and I do already separate from I think Anthey and

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<v Speaker 1>I did a I think we did a podcast on

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<v Speaker 1>that one time too, so I'm familiar. I did not

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<v Speaker 1>hear their stream, but I know this material somewhat well, gotcha.

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<v Speaker 17>I just wanted to get your opinion on that because

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<v Speaker 17>I thought I had a lot of roots with Memorialism,

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<v Speaker 17>just because.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you you can vindicate.

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<v Speaker 17>It a lot and a lot of times people just

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<v Speaker 17>kind of underestimate your opinion and then you know, ten

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<v Speaker 17>fifteen years later down.

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<v Speaker 1>The line, what did you say? Just turn this to

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<v Speaker 1>be true?

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<v Speaker 17>So I just wanted to see if you had any

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<v Speaker 17>opinions about those two or well related what to be Yeah,

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<v Speaker 17>with narcissism and memorialism in the Eucharist.

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<v Speaker 1>With Protestant oh, I don't. I mean there probably is.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, definitely there's a connection between just the anti

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<v Speaker 1>sacramental approach of Protestantism and the idea of gnosticism that

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<v Speaker 1>it's anti material, it's anti sacramental. So that's true. But

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<v Speaker 1>exactly how you trace that lineage. I mean, you could

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<v Speaker 1>argue that like Luther and Calvin had perhaps Gnostic influence.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Luther was influenced by the Theologia Germanica, which

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<v Speaker 1>has Gnostic influence, but Luther is still believe in the

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<v Speaker 1>real press, so it's not exactly gnostic. But also the

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<v Speaker 1>second generation Lutherans like Johann Andre were it appears into Rosicrucianism.

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<v Speaker 1>So I would say that's the case, but I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>So the strict memorials memorialist view is like the counter Reformation,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's a whole bunch of kind of weirdos. And

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I mean, excuse me, radical Reformation. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know who in the Radical Reformation would be the

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<v Speaker 1>most influential and influenced by gnosticism. So probably there is

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<v Speaker 1>an academic work out there that demonstrates that, but I

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<v Speaker 1>just don't know off the top of my head, An Schultz.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean imagine calling in and like thinking it's funny

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<v Speaker 1>to defend Jeff Say mcguffrey, Like I just like this,

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<v Speaker 1>so weird. What's up, man, Hey man, what's a great stream?

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<v Speaker 18>I got a question for you about kind of the

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<v Speaker 18>argument you use to defeat Protestants when it comes to

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<v Speaker 18>the cande of scripture. I'm wondering how you integrate that

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<v Speaker 18>into the Old Testament because I've been encountering some people

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<v Speaker 18>who say, well, there wasn't a church, there wasn't a

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<v Speaker 18>formalized canon or epistemic principle.

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<v Speaker 1>Of the church. Yeah, but what there was in the

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<v Speaker 1>Old Testament. We already dealt with this objection in the

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<v Speaker 1>Dale the Protestant debate. So if you watch me and

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<v Speaker 1>doctor Branson debate Dale the Protestant, I think Dale brings

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<v Speaker 1>up this for some version of this kind of an argument.

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<v Speaker 1>And doctor Branson, who really specializes in part in this

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<v Speaker 1>area with how a second Temple, Judaism and earlier functioned.

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<v Speaker 1>They had normative authorities in the levitical courts, so it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't a sol scripture issue. You didn't just read the

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<v Speaker 1>scrolls and interpret them for yourselves. In fact, the priest

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<v Speaker 1>and levite had the authority to interpret and make judgments

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<v Speaker 1>on the basis of the law. So this is actually

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<v Speaker 1>worse for the Protestant to try to go to the

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<v Speaker 1>Old Testament as a proof of soul scapturro when it's

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<v Speaker 1>in fact the opposite.

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<v Speaker 18>Are you there, Okay, No, that's good. Yeah, it's good,

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<v Speaker 18>thank you. And you would say it's kind of like

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<v Speaker 18>the same kind of principle.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a normative authority, there's tradition, absolutely no. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>the Orthodox Church a snodal model comes out of the

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<v Speaker 1>Jewish sonodal model. That's exactly the argument that we make

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<v Speaker 1>against Dale the Protestant, because Dale tries to take that

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<v Speaker 1>route and say, well, hey, Old Testament, it's soul scaptura.

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<v Speaker 1>They're going by the Bible the text level. Actually, even

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<v Speaker 1>in the Old Testament they have the oral law to

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<v Speaker 1>the to the law and the testimony. Isaiah says, well,

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<v Speaker 1>the testimony is the oral tradition. Now there's bad oral

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<v Speaker 1>tradition and there's good oral tradition both are the case

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<v Speaker 1>and Jesus himself in certain places Paul as well, they

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<v Speaker 1>cite oral tradition right in the Old Testament. So there's

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<v Speaker 1>legiti oral tradition, and there's fake old tradition which was

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<v Speaker 1>attempting to at times replace the Word of God that

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<v Speaker 1>even Jeremiah bitches about. Right. So Jeremiah in certain chapters

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<v Speaker 1>saying hey describes and the Pharisees are adding to and

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<v Speaker 1>corrupting the texts uh so, good question though, good question, true, patristic, true, Patricia,

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<v Speaker 1>you want to I'm mute.

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<v Speaker 14>Yeah, ok, I have a question on the trinity. Yes,

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<v Speaker 14>so I have heard many times and obviously the Orthodox

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<v Speaker 14>doctrine is that the Father is the one God, so

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<v Speaker 14>defunt right now.

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<v Speaker 1>The difficulty I.

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<v Speaker 2>Have is when we say.

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<v Speaker 14>The one and the three, meaning the one of the many, right,

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<v Speaker 14>so you have the one God, which doctrinally rehab to

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<v Speaker 14>says the Father. However, the divine essence is what we're

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<v Speaker 14>actually referring.

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<v Speaker 4>To when we say that.

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<v Speaker 1>No, yeah, it's a both hands.

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<v Speaker 14>Okay, And you explain the how it's not the botomy

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<v Speaker 14>like a false dichotomy that like a contradictory the ichotomy

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<v Speaker 14>there because that's it's easing me.

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<v Speaker 1>How can it be full of hands for that? Because

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<v Speaker 1>the word God picks out different things, the same argument

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<v Speaker 1>we make against Muslims, right, Muslims think that God can

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<v Speaker 1>only pick out Allah himself or Allah essence. And then

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<v Speaker 1>you say, well, but doesn't Alla have ninety nine names

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<v Speaker 1>and all these attributes, and doesn't it also pick out

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<v Speaker 1>the attributes? So you notice that the Muslim, for example,

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<v Speaker 1>immediately runs into that issue with thinking that God only

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<v Speaker 1>has a single reference. Well, in scripture and in tradition,

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<v Speaker 1>God can pick out first and foremost the person of

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<v Speaker 1>the Father, but it can also pick out a divine

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<v Speaker 1>energy or operation. It can pick out a divine hypostasis,

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<v Speaker 1>and it can pick out the divine essence, and it

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<v Speaker 1>can also pick out angels, humans and demons. So the

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<v Speaker 1>word God is used in many different senses. That makes sense.

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<v Speaker 14>Now my question would be this might be some of

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<v Speaker 14>the question, but so does the essence from hypostace he's

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<v Speaker 14>from the father or is it a misunderstanding?

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<v Speaker 1>So doesn't it be so according to the original Nicene creed,

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<v Speaker 1>the son is generated whole and entire from the Father's essence,

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<v Speaker 1>so that means that everything that the that the son has,

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<v Speaker 1>and Jesus himself says this, right, everything that I have,

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<v Speaker 1>he has from the Father, so that would include his

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<v Speaker 1>hypostasis and his essence. And later Blackerne says that it

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<v Speaker 1>is the even the essence itself is communicated from the

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<v Speaker 1>father to the son. Right.

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<v Speaker 14>And now that being said, the divinecence, which is proper

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<v Speaker 14>to the father's hypostaces like pontologically, the father becomes before

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<v Speaker 14>the divine essence.

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<v Speaker 1>Now there's no before or after relations in an eternal generation.

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<v Speaker 1>The father is the source. It's a personal hypostatic source.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not the divine essence that's the source. So it

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<v Speaker 1>was the divine essence that was the source. Then the

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<v Speaker 1>would generate inspirate itself, right, the spirit would spirate himself.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the father's essence. And that's why we talk about

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<v Speaker 1>in hypostatized the essence only exists in the mode of

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<v Speaker 1>the persons that have it. So the essence exists in

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<v Speaker 1>the person of the father. And thus the son is

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<v Speaker 1>generated of the father's essence. It's not just he's generated

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<v Speaker 1>from the divine essence. He's generated from the father's essence.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's the way Athenacious constantly argues that against the

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<v Speaker 1>Arians perfect.

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<v Speaker 14>And my last question would be, because each mentioned happenacious,

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<v Speaker 14>would there be a particular reading from the Church fathers

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<v Speaker 14>that you would recommend on this topic.

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<v Speaker 1>I would get khalid Anatolios's book on Athenacious because there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of different I mean, there's a whole volume

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<v Speaker 1>over here. I mean you could read the Discourse against

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<v Speaker 1>the Arians. But kaleid Anatolius's book is really good kind

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<v Speaker 1>of collating all of the Athenacious texts into explaining how

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<v Speaker 1>he conceives of the triad. But great questions. Appreciate that, William,

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<v Speaker 1>what's up? I have? Khalid Onnatoya's is one of his

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<v Speaker 1>affenacious books. I think he's got a few, but there's

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<v Speaker 1>one that I think specifically is dealing mainly with the

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<v Speaker 1>generation of the sun. William, what's up? You gonna wanna?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm mute? All right? Caspar? What's up?

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<v Speaker 9>Man?

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<v Speaker 1>H Caspar? You want I'm mute?

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<v Speaker 7>Hey?

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<v Speaker 1>What's up? Man? How you doing good? What's on your mind?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Much? So?

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<v Speaker 16>I was debating an atheist the other day and they

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<v Speaker 16>got in.

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<v Speaker 1>They got stuck on this.

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<v Speaker 16>Uh key five mortal modal logic, and I kept saying it,

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<v Speaker 16>I don't see how he's making the jump from you know,

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<v Speaker 16>if if God's necessary in some other world, he's unnecessary.

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<v Speaker 16>I don't I didn't understand the jump, and I just

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<v Speaker 16>kept saying like, that's as a non secretar, it's not.

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<v Speaker 1>Really going anywhere. I still can't answer the deeper. I

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<v Speaker 1>just wanted to hear what your insight to that would be.

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<v Speaker 1>That would be a good question for FDA. And he's

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<v Speaker 1>not here. You know, he's a lot more studied in

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<v Speaker 1>the modal logic stuff than I am. So I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have to plead. I'm not sure exactly because I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know exactly what the guy's arguing. But Chinese script,

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<v Speaker 1>what's up? I can't read your name? You want to unmute? Okay, Lasia,

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<v Speaker 1>Lejandro Aleandro? What's so? Lady got Goy? What's on your mind?

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<v Speaker 1>Lady God Goy? Hey Jay.

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<v Speaker 6>First of all, I just want to tell you thanks

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<v Speaker 6>see you and Father h I said to start going

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<v Speaker 6>to the Dogs Church Sunday. I'm a first fourth of

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<v Speaker 6>Dogs Church, so this Sunday and one that leurgy. Thank

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<v Speaker 6>you for that.

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<v Speaker 1>But also you're saying you're going. Did you it's hard

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<v Speaker 1>to hear you. Did you? Did you say you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to Father Josiah's church? You said, I couldn't hear you.

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<v Speaker 18>No, No, I wish now it's just the church with

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<v Speaker 18>the dogs church.

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<v Speaker 1>I found your body, Okay, gotcha, go ahead. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to.

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<v Speaker 6>Ask you about this movie that I found a while ago,

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<v Speaker 6>and and I.

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<v Speaker 1>Was just thinking about it.

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<v Speaker 6>I was like, Jay would probably like called the classic

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01:29:48.439 --> 01:29:49.479
<v Speaker 6>animation adventure movie.

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<v Speaker 1>It's called The Adventures of Mark Twain. It's like a

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<v Speaker 1>movie on thost.

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<v Speaker 18>Okay, it's really like weird, a lot of symbolisms.

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<v Speaker 1>You might like it, Okay, Adventures of the Mark Fighting

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<v Speaker 1>Oh is that that weird one that's got all it's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of gone viral for having like weird stuff in it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it shows satan. I like the animation stuff, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>really weird. Thinking you you definitely catch some Okay, I

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<v Speaker 1>would be able to Yeah, all right, yeah, okay, I

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate that. I'll check it out. Now. I've got a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of energy. I'm gonna keep going. If you guys

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<v Speaker 1>want to hang around. We got a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>in the chat. We still got at least ten people

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<v Speaker 1>lined up for questions. But I'm gonna have to run

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<v Speaker 1>to the little girls room and go T T. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna let y'all listen to a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>this interesting spy music and I will be right back.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't go anywhere. Here's some spy tunes that fits the mood.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, baz Bo, you're discussing childish people. I was

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<v Speaker 1>not pooping my pants. I was about to freaking whiz everywhere. Dude,

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get a little more spy music going to get

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<v Speaker 1>this the vibe. What's up? Uh? Gear May? What's up?

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<v Speaker 1>Gear May?

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<v Speaker 5>Mhmm?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeare May? What's up? Hey? What's up?

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<v Speaker 5>Jake?

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<v Speaker 1>What's on your mind? Yeah? I would like to ask

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<v Speaker 1>you a question.

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<v Speaker 15>Every once in a while we see this claim and

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<v Speaker 15>I want I want to know your thoughts on it.

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<v Speaker 15>When people say Jesus was Jewish or Jesus was a jew,

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<v Speaker 15>what is how do you evaluate it? What is the

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<v Speaker 15>angle that you think these people are taking when they

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<v Speaker 15>when they make the claim, and how do you respond

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<v Speaker 15>to it?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if you read the Book of Ezra or

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<v Speaker 1>if you read the book of Zeremiah, Zechariah, Old Testament

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<v Speaker 1>religion is called Judaism. Jesus says in john Ford to

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<v Speaker 1>the Woman of the Will, the salvation is of the Jews.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's nothing theologically or even remotely incorrect there. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate it, thank you. So there's this, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>this argument goes around where people think that there's no

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<v Speaker 1>such thing as Judaism. It's kind of a Christian identity

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<v Speaker 1>white wig nat argument that goes around. Now, the religion

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<v Speaker 1>of the Old Testament is proto Christianity, and that's Hebrew Judaism.

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<v Speaker 1>After the split between Christianity and Rabbinic Judaism, Rabbinic Judaism

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<v Speaker 1>becomes kind of its own thing that we think of

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<v Speaker 1>as today's rabbinic Judaism. Okay, and those people are still Jews,

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<v Speaker 1>but the religion is a different religion than what we

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<v Speaker 1>would argue is authentic Judaism, which is Christianity. So our

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<v Speaker 1>interpretation is that it was always own only through faith

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<v Speaker 1>in the Messiah that you were saved. You could never

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<v Speaker 1>be saved by being just merely a genetic descendant of Abraham.

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<v Speaker 1>So Galatians three is very clear about that that faith

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<v Speaker 1>in Christ and baptism is what makes us a member

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<v Speaker 1>of the Abrahamic Covenant, and that's fulfilled now that the

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<v Speaker 1>Messiah has come. So when we look at texts in

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<v Speaker 1>the Old Testament, even the Old Testament notes that there

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<v Speaker 1>were Jews as well as Kaldeon's at Mizpop. The Old

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<v Speaker 1>Testament notes in Ezra that the Jews exist, Nehemiah the Jews.

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<v Speaker 1>So these are Old Testament canonical texts. And I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know why it's not coming up in Zechariah, but there's

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<v Speaker 1>a reference in Zachariah as well. Here we go in

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<v Speaker 1>this these are predictions even in the Messianic era. They

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<v Speaker 1>will grab the sleep of a Jewish man. Let us

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<v Speaker 1>go for you. We have heard that God is with you.

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<v Speaker 1>This is referring to the Apostles and their preaching of

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<v Speaker 1>the Gospels that Criat is a prophetic it's predicting the

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<v Speaker 1>Messianic era. And that's why in John four, Jesus says,

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<v Speaker 1>you know not what you speak, because the Samaritan woman

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<v Speaker 1>was a schismatic, right, the Samaritan woman thought that the

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<v Speaker 1>Samaritans were the true religion. They were the schismatics of

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<v Speaker 1>that time. And Jesus says, you know not that of

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<v Speaker 1>which you speak. By the way, notice there being a

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<v Speaker 1>generic monotheist doesn't get you anywhere. So that refutes no

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<v Speaker 1>stretate the idea that, oh, well, we all believe in God,

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<v Speaker 1>because we all believe in one God, so it's the

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<v Speaker 1>same God. Right. Samaritan woman says, hey, you are prophet,

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<v Speaker 1>settle my theological dispute question. Our fathers worshiped here on

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<v Speaker 1>this mountain in Samaria, but the Jews say you have

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<v Speaker 1>to do it in Jerusalem. What's the right place? Jesus says,

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<v Speaker 1>The day is coming when it will be global, right,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody everywhere will worship, not related to specifically a single location.

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<v Speaker 1>It will be a global worship, he says, But you

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<v Speaker 1>do not know what you worship for. Salvation is of

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<v Speaker 1>the Jews, and that is factually, historically, biblically correct. Shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>even really be an issue? David, what's up? David? What's up? Man? Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>it's something I have. I'm an northodox kata koum.

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<v Speaker 5>I just have a question about what books would you

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<v Speaker 5>recommend that you would have liked to have I guess,

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<v Speaker 5>in your hindsight knowledge by what would you have liked

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<v Speaker 5>to have read?

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<v Speaker 1>I have a bunch, but some.

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<v Speaker 5>Of them are like saying Seraph in his books, they're

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<v Speaker 5>really complex, and I need to start something smaller.

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<v Speaker 1>Really, just what would you suggest, I mean, I would

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<v Speaker 1>I would Uh, looking back, I would say I would

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<v Speaker 1>have It would have been good to have read the

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<v Speaker 1>entire Palmazansky book Orthodox Dogmatics starting out. It would have

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<v Speaker 1>been good to have read Visiting Theology by my Endorf.

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<v Speaker 1>If it would have been good to read christ in

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<v Speaker 1>a Christological Controversy Saint Cyril of Alexander, Christological Controversy by mcguckan.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm just telling you the books that I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of staggered over many years, but if I'd read them

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<v Speaker 1>kind of early on, I would have been able to

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<v Speaker 1>avoid I think a lot of questions and issues and

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<v Speaker 1>disputes and and and and things. Later on the Orthodox

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<v Speaker 1>Faith by John Damascus, Uh, five Theological Orations by Saint

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<v Speaker 1>Gregord now Sanzus, and then when you get beyond that,

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<v Speaker 1>one read all the orations because they're actually all really important,

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<v Speaker 1>but the five is a good place to start. On

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<v Speaker 1>the Incarnation by sant Athanasius. Those are all absolutely kind

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<v Speaker 1>of essential necessary reads. Mystical Theology by laws Key, So

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<v Speaker 1>I would do all those hobber Moss, what's up, hobber Moss,

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<v Speaker 1>what's up? We've got actual Frankfurt school Djens in the chat.

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<v Speaker 1>What's up, man? Oh Amen, I hope you're doing well.

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<v Speaker 1>Nice to me you.

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<v Speaker 8>I was curious to know if you were familiar with

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<v Speaker 8>the Stanley Monty, if you ever collaborated with him or

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<v Speaker 8>have looked into his work,
