WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.560 --> 00:00:07.839 Welcome to Political Beatdown. I'm Ben Mycelis, joined by Dina Dohl. 2 00:00:08.439 --> 00:00:10.880 I think we'll get Michael Cohen back in the next 3 00:00:10.919 --> 00:00:13.960 week week and a half. No, of course, out of 4 00:00:14.039 --> 00:00:19.679 respect for the trial process, out of respect for Justice 5 00:00:19.760 --> 00:00:24.480 Mershon's orders and requests, Michael Cohen will not be appearing 6 00:00:24.879 --> 00:00:28.760 on Political beat Down, I think until there's at least 7 00:00:28.879 --> 00:00:32.200 closure in the case, which would be a verdict. Dina, 8 00:00:32.240 --> 00:00:34.640 I think you and I both expect that verdict to 9 00:00:34.719 --> 00:00:40.439 come next week, by next Thursday or Friday. Given some 10 00:00:40.640 --> 00:00:45.320 of the delays that took place. Justice Mershon explained today 11 00:00:45.359 --> 00:00:51.039 that the summations would take place beginning after Memorial Day, 12 00:00:51.119 --> 00:00:56.520 so starting Tuesday. I think Justice Mershon smartly didn't want 13 00:00:56.600 --> 00:00:59.840 to kind of have a big gap with Memorial Day 14 00:01:00.320 --> 00:01:04.239 after summation where jurors may forget what's going on, and 15 00:01:04.280 --> 00:01:09.560 so the summation goes right into deliberation, and they were 16 00:01:09.599 --> 00:01:12.640 able to use the other time which they needed anyway 17 00:01:13.439 --> 00:01:15.439 today and we'll see if there's some other days to 18 00:01:15.519 --> 00:01:19.599 go over things like the charging instructions for the jury, 19 00:01:20.000 --> 00:01:24.040 where the jury will ultimately get the law that they 20 00:01:24.120 --> 00:01:28.799 need to apply to the facts. The other jury instructions 21 00:01:28.840 --> 00:01:33.680 were discussed if there were disputes over which instructions should 22 00:01:33.760 --> 00:01:37.560 be given to the jury. Remember, it's the judge's job 23 00:01:38.120 --> 00:01:42.359 to basically advise on what the law is. It is 24 00:01:42.439 --> 00:01:45.799 the jury that is the trier of fact. They take 25 00:01:45.840 --> 00:01:49.000 the law they're given and then they apply the facts 26 00:01:49.040 --> 00:01:52.799 to it. So when you have to deal with charging instructions, 27 00:01:53.200 --> 00:01:55.719 you go and you look at what the law is 28 00:01:56.280 --> 00:01:59.280 that gets handed over to the jury, And there may 29 00:01:59.319 --> 00:02:04.599 be disputes over what type of instructions the jury receives. 30 00:02:05.040 --> 00:02:09.439 For example, you know whether there is an instruction about 31 00:02:09.520 --> 00:02:14.599 something called advice of counsel, which has to be asserted 32 00:02:14.759 --> 00:02:17.639 before the trial begins, or at least at some point 33 00:02:18.080 --> 00:02:21.680 during the trial, in which case the defendant has to testify. 34 00:02:21.719 --> 00:02:26.560 An advice of counsel instruction is basically a criminal defendant 35 00:02:26.599 --> 00:02:30.319 saying it's my lawyer's fault they misled me. I got 36 00:02:30.360 --> 00:02:33.879 bad advice. But the criminal defendant has to take the stand. 37 00:02:33.960 --> 00:02:36.520 So Trump and his legal team were trying to be 38 00:02:36.960 --> 00:02:40.439 a little sneaky and say that we're not actually requesting 39 00:02:40.479 --> 00:02:44.560 an advice of council instruction. We're requesting a presence of 40 00:02:44.680 --> 00:02:48.319 council instruction. They invented their own concept and said, well, 41 00:02:48.479 --> 00:02:52.159 Trump didn't testify, so we didn't formally assert advice of counsel, 42 00:02:52.240 --> 00:02:55.199 but we still want to blame the lawyers, and we 43 00:02:55.240 --> 00:02:58.439 want to give the jury instructions on that, and moments 44 00:02:58.479 --> 00:03:02.080 ago Justice Mershan's life like presence of counsel. That's not 45 00:03:02.159 --> 00:03:05.919 a real thing denied. And so it was things like 46 00:03:06.039 --> 00:03:09.919 that that were discussed whether or not when we're dealing 47 00:03:09.960 --> 00:03:15.120 with falsified business records, whether it's enough for a person 48 00:03:15.120 --> 00:03:19.120 who's being charged with it to cause the records to 49 00:03:19.199 --> 00:03:24.599 be falsified versus actually them going with the the magic 50 00:03:24.719 --> 00:03:29.800 marker or the sharpie and quite literally falsifying the records themselves. 51 00:03:30.319 --> 00:03:34.599 If they cause the records to be falsified through their 52 00:03:34.719 --> 00:03:38.360 acts and conduct and others, then do it. You can't 53 00:03:38.360 --> 00:03:41.520 then blame the others. So that was discussed. It is 54 00:03:41.719 --> 00:03:46.560 enough if Donald Trump put in motion thereby causing business 55 00:03:46.599 --> 00:03:49.240 records to be falsified, so all of this stuff for 56 00:03:49.360 --> 00:03:52.639 MAGA blaming it on the bookkeeper, that's not what the 57 00:03:52.759 --> 00:03:56.280 law is. The law is if Trump caused the bookkeeper 58 00:03:56.599 --> 00:04:00.479 to then make the false entury, Trump is criminally responsible, 59 00:04:00.560 --> 00:04:03.479 So that was ruled on moments ago. And then Dina, 60 00:04:04.240 --> 00:04:09.199 you know yesterday we had Robert Costello testify. My brother Jordi, 61 00:04:10.360 --> 00:04:13.240 you know, I think said it brilliantly. So Robert Costello 62 00:04:13.360 --> 00:04:17.000 is this maga lawyer. And the way the media tried 63 00:04:17.040 --> 00:04:20.000 to present the way they claimed Michael Cohen was going 64 00:04:20.040 --> 00:04:22.560 to testify, like Cohen was just going to start going 65 00:04:22.600 --> 00:04:27.319 all crazy and being disruptive and engage in contemptuous behavior. 66 00:04:28.000 --> 00:04:30.800 Of course Cohen didn't do that. Everybody who watches political 67 00:04:30.879 --> 00:04:35.680 beat down and maya Copan knows that Cohen conducts himself professionally. 68 00:04:35.720 --> 00:04:40.000 Everyone knows how Cohen would act, and Cohen acted professionally, 69 00:04:40.040 --> 00:04:42.439 made eye contact with the jury. But the way the 70 00:04:42.560 --> 00:04:45.480 media narrative was like, this is how Cohen's gonna act, 71 00:04:46.040 --> 00:04:48.879 is how the witness, like, really the one witness Donald 72 00:04:48.920 --> 00:04:54.240 Trump called acted, Robert Costello like grinning and making noises 73 00:04:54.279 --> 00:04:58.839 at the Ajustice Mershon, staring him down, making snide remarkable. 74 00:04:58.920 --> 00:05:01.920 Then you strike it and so like Justice Mershon had 75 00:05:01.959 --> 00:05:06.000 to like shut down the courtroom, close it and basically 76 00:05:06.160 --> 00:05:09.480 warn Robert Costello that he would be held in contempt 77 00:05:09.759 --> 00:05:12.839 if he continued to engage in that conduct. The cross 78 00:05:12.879 --> 00:05:18.040 examination of Costello was what a cross examination should be. 79 00:05:18.079 --> 00:05:23.680 And Costello basically collapsed on cross examination, not literally, but 80 00:05:24.600 --> 00:05:27.160 you know, you had jurors who were basically laughing in 81 00:05:27.240 --> 00:05:32.439 Costello's face, and Trump's lawyers did not want to call Costello. 82 00:05:32.560 --> 00:05:36.600 Apparently Trump made them call Costello, and it was just 83 00:05:36.680 --> 00:05:39.639 devastating because Costello was like, I didn't care about Donald Trump. 84 00:05:40.160 --> 00:05:42.800 I don't care about Trump or Giuliani. I was focused 85 00:05:43.000 --> 00:05:46.120 on helping Michael Cohen. And then very quickly the way 86 00:05:46.160 --> 00:05:48.839 across is supposed to happen like pool boom boom. The 87 00:05:48.920 --> 00:05:52.720 prosecutor Susan Hoppaderson. Oh really, you said that your interests 88 00:05:52.759 --> 00:05:55.759 were Cohen. Well, here are all of the emails basically 89 00:05:55.800 --> 00:06:00.040 behind the scenes where you had Costello calling Cohen and 90 00:06:00.079 --> 00:06:03.560 a hole and basically telling people if we really need 91 00:06:03.560 --> 00:06:06.639 to help Trump here and Cohen's not playing ball and 92 00:06:06.879 --> 00:06:09.000 what can we do with Cohen? And we really need 93 00:06:09.000 --> 00:06:12.120 to help Trump out right here? And you know and more. 94 00:06:12.160 --> 00:06:14.279 It's that effect. So it actually and I'll throw it 95 00:06:14.319 --> 00:06:16.800 to you, Dina, It put the perfect ribbon on the 96 00:06:16.839 --> 00:06:21.199 prosecution's case. Then now you had this like mafia style 97 00:06:21.560 --> 00:06:26.600 dude lawyer masquerading as like trying to be Cohen's lawyer, 98 00:06:26.920 --> 00:06:29.759 weasel his way in on behalf of Trump to like 99 00:06:29.879 --> 00:06:33.199 cover it up, like and like to silence Cohen. Like 100 00:06:33.519 --> 00:06:36.399 what better way for the prosecution to end the case 101 00:06:36.720 --> 00:06:41.720 than have Costello testify? So what a blunder the by 102 00:06:41.759 --> 00:06:44.399 the defense if you want to talk about drawing blood, 103 00:06:45.240 --> 00:06:48.639 how devastating of a witness for the defense was Costello? 104 00:06:48.680 --> 00:06:50.439 And that leads us to where we are today. So 105 00:06:50.920 --> 00:06:55.920 that's may intro. Dina. I'm so grateful for you posting 106 00:06:56.000 --> 00:06:58.600 this with me while Cohen's way. Everybody loves to see it. 107 00:06:58.680 --> 00:07:00.959 What'd you make of today and where we're headed? 108 00:07:02.000 --> 00:07:04.160 I'm so grateful to be here. I mean, this is 109 00:07:04.199 --> 00:07:06.839 such a historic case. I agree with you. I mean 110 00:07:06.879 --> 00:07:09.000 I think that the defense should have just not put 111 00:07:09.040 --> 00:07:11.480 on a case, you know, it's just don't put on 112 00:07:11.560 --> 00:07:14.560 a case, rather than put on a witness like Robert Castello. 113 00:07:14.639 --> 00:07:16.759 And then in closing you can put holes in the 114 00:07:16.800 --> 00:07:20.240 case and it is the prosecutor's burden, you know. But 115 00:07:20.279 --> 00:07:22.519 at this point when you put on Robert Castello, like that, 116 00:07:23.399 --> 00:07:27.399 the fact that the jury had to leave twice during 117 00:07:27.480 --> 00:07:32.160 his testimony because of how disrespectful he was to the judge. 118 00:07:32.360 --> 00:07:35.199 They didn't hear the clear the courtroom line, right, they 119 00:07:35.240 --> 00:07:40.079 had already left, but they saw him answering even when 120 00:07:40.079 --> 00:07:42.399 he wasn't supposed to be answering, and muttering the g's 121 00:07:42.519 --> 00:07:46.680 behind under his breath, and they knew, they knew why 122 00:07:46.839 --> 00:07:49.439 they were being asked to leave. They you know, I mean, 123 00:07:49.480 --> 00:07:52.160 it's logical that he was going to get reprimanded by 124 00:07:52.160 --> 00:07:55.279 the judge. First of all, the jury is very aligned 125 00:07:55.480 --> 00:07:59.120 with the judge. The judge is, you know, looking out 126 00:07:59.160 --> 00:08:03.240 for them, right instruction, they know to look out to him, 127 00:08:03.560 --> 00:08:06.079 and honestly, in this kind of a situation, the judge 128 00:08:06.120 --> 00:08:10.000 is protecting them literally, you know, making instructions to the 129 00:08:10.040 --> 00:08:13.360 media don't talk about them so much because you know, 130 00:08:13.639 --> 00:08:16.680 they were getting kind of outed in the beginning. The 131 00:08:16.759 --> 00:08:20.360 jury knows this. One of the juris in particular, during 132 00:08:20.360 --> 00:08:23.519 that sidebar was saying how she had been worried about 133 00:08:23.519 --> 00:08:25.720 her safety and she ended up staying, and the judge 134 00:08:25.759 --> 00:08:28.519 was like, don't worry like I am going to you know, 135 00:08:28.600 --> 00:08:31.319 make sure that they don't report about you. So when 136 00:08:31.360 --> 00:08:35.399 you are being so respectful to the judge, it's as 137 00:08:35.480 --> 00:08:38.840 if you are being disrespectful to the jury. They see 138 00:08:38.879 --> 00:08:43.480 themselves as one unit in that respect, And again, this 139 00:08:43.639 --> 00:08:49.200 whole case is about were you unlawful? Were you willing 140 00:08:49.360 --> 00:08:54.080 to be unlawful to win the presidency? And when you 141 00:08:54.240 --> 00:09:00.720 have your one witness completely flouting the law. Judge in 142 00:09:00.840 --> 00:09:05.600 this trial is the symbol of the law, and you 143 00:09:05.759 --> 00:09:09.679 are sitting there not caring about his rulings and being 144 00:09:09.720 --> 00:09:12.200 so disrespectful. It's like the last thing you want to 145 00:09:12.240 --> 00:09:16.720 do when you're trying to say that the defendant is 146 00:09:16.759 --> 00:09:20.200 a law abiding citizen, and that's the true probably for 147 00:09:20.279 --> 00:09:22.799 any criminal defendant. You're trying to show that you're a 148 00:09:22.879 --> 00:09:26.000 law abiding citizen. But in this respect, when you're dealing 149 00:09:26.039 --> 00:09:30.159 with this power and the fact that the prosecution today 150 00:09:30.480 --> 00:09:34.000 was able to get in those emails for the second time, 151 00:09:34.399 --> 00:09:36.559 those emails to me were I think one of the 152 00:09:36.600 --> 00:09:39.840 most damaging parts of the case because it shows that 153 00:09:40.000 --> 00:09:43.639 once he got into the presidency, he continued to abuse 154 00:09:43.720 --> 00:09:46.519 his power. He used the power of the White House 155 00:09:46.639 --> 00:09:50.080 in this mafia style setting. There's more than one way 156 00:09:50.519 --> 00:09:52.840 to get somebody to do what you want to do, right, 157 00:09:52.879 --> 00:09:55.519 You threaten violence, and you threaten like with your power, 158 00:09:55.559 --> 00:09:57.639 and he was threatening with his power, trying to keep 159 00:09:57.679 --> 00:10:00.519 Michael Cohen quiet. And the prosecutors had are gotten that 160 00:10:00.559 --> 00:10:02.480 email and once, but they got to get it in 161 00:10:02.559 --> 00:10:06.559 a second time. And that is alone enough of a 162 00:10:06.639 --> 00:10:09.639 reason not to have had Robert Castello testify. It was 163 00:10:09.679 --> 00:10:11.960 really clear that they were trying to keep Michael Cohen 164 00:10:12.240 --> 00:10:14.960 quiet with this power of the presidency. And so you 165 00:10:15.080 --> 00:10:20.440 see again and again from the prosecution and the evidence 166 00:10:20.480 --> 00:10:23.799 that they put forward, the defense and Robert Costello and 167 00:10:23.840 --> 00:10:27.799 the emails that put forward, that Trump was willing to 168 00:10:28.120 --> 00:10:31.440 abuse his power. He was willing to flout the law 169 00:10:31.799 --> 00:10:35.759 to become president and then once president to you know, 170 00:10:35.960 --> 00:10:39.679 interfere with the justice system and the judge when he 171 00:10:39.759 --> 00:10:43.799 goes to give the jury the case, like we may 172 00:10:43.840 --> 00:10:46.600 talk about the more the during sections, like you said, 173 00:10:46.799 --> 00:10:48.679 but he's also going to tell them to use their 174 00:10:48.679 --> 00:10:51.240 common sense. He's going to tell them, you know, that 175 00:10:51.240 --> 00:10:55.159 they're allowed to use their life experience to determine somebody's credibility, 176 00:10:55.159 --> 00:10:57.240 the witness's credibility. He already told them that in the 177 00:10:57.240 --> 00:10:59.360 beginning of the case. He also was going to tell 178 00:10:59.399 --> 00:11:02.279 them and that they can use their common sense. And 179 00:11:02.360 --> 00:11:06.639 if you have common sense, and you see the defense 180 00:11:06.720 --> 00:11:09.679 act like that to the judge, and you see testimony 181 00:11:09.720 --> 00:11:15.080 and testimony, and you see the politicians parading inside the courtroom, 182 00:11:15.440 --> 00:11:18.159 the common sense is that Trump did what he wanted 183 00:11:18.159 --> 00:11:19.720 to do and he didn't care about the law, and 184 00:11:19.799 --> 00:11:21.600 neither does anybody else around him. 185 00:11:22.799 --> 00:11:25.759 Think about it this way, Dina as well. Michael Cohen, 186 00:11:26.279 --> 00:11:30.840 my co host on Political peat Down. He testified for 187 00:11:31.159 --> 00:11:38.399 about twenty one hours, twenty one hours of testimony, and 188 00:11:38.840 --> 00:11:42.240 I know the corporate media tried to pick apart quite 189 00:11:42.399 --> 00:11:46.919 literally like thirty seconds, which, by the way, where Cohen 190 00:11:47.120 --> 00:11:52.240 was being honest, he was corroborated by contemporaneous photos that 191 00:11:52.360 --> 00:11:55.200 the prosecution then had to show these c Span photos 192 00:11:55.399 --> 00:11:59.480 from October twenty fourth of twenty sixteen. Cohen was honest, 193 00:12:00.080 --> 00:12:02.360 and where back in the day he did wrong. He 194 00:12:02.440 --> 00:12:05.360 told the truth. There wasn't any moment where they were like, 195 00:12:05.480 --> 00:12:09.639 but ah, here's what I have. Cohen was honest. He 196 00:12:09.720 --> 00:12:12.799 told the good, he told the bad, he told the ugly, 197 00:12:13.200 --> 00:12:16.080 and he submitted to twenty one hours. I mean it 198 00:12:16.159 --> 00:12:19.799 wasn't voluntarily. He was a subpoena witness, but Cohen's had 199 00:12:19.799 --> 00:12:24.120 to testify probably more than almost like any American in 200 00:12:24.200 --> 00:12:28.039 almost anything period. And he does it, and he looks 201 00:12:28.080 --> 00:12:31.399 at the jury. He's honest, he's candid, and as I said, 202 00:12:31.440 --> 00:12:35.000 the good, the bad, the ugly. We know Cohen's having 203 00:12:35.039 --> 00:12:38.320 his Maya Culpa moment right now, which is who Coen 204 00:12:38.519 --> 00:12:42.000 always was. He recognizes what he did was wrong in 205 00:12:42.039 --> 00:12:44.080 the past. We know that about him. That's his podcast, 206 00:12:44.080 --> 00:12:47.639 it's called Maya Culpa on Political Beatdown. He acknowledges in 207 00:12:47.679 --> 00:12:50.600 his books. He's acknowledged, this is what I did wrong 208 00:12:50.679 --> 00:12:53.279 in my life, and I want to make up for it. 209 00:12:53.440 --> 00:12:57.080 But he wasn't fighting on the cross exam. He was 210 00:12:57.159 --> 00:13:00.399 just telling the truth. On the other hand, just think 211 00:13:00.440 --> 00:13:03.200 about when Donald Trump sued Cohen. Let's talk about that, 212 00:13:03.320 --> 00:13:07.840 the civil case where Trump sues Cohen for five hundred 213 00:13:08.000 --> 00:13:10.960 million dollars and Cohen's like, all right, you're suing me. 214 00:13:11.360 --> 00:13:14.039 I guess I'm gonna have to testify. I'm ready. Well, 215 00:13:14.240 --> 00:13:17.159 let's take your deposition, then, Donald Trump, and let's have 216 00:13:17.320 --> 00:13:20.000 you testify about all the things that you think I 217 00:13:20.080 --> 00:13:23.080 did wrong. Delay, delayed, Delay. Trump says he's going to 218 00:13:23.159 --> 00:13:26.600 testify delay, delayed, delay. Then Donald Trump, right, as he's 219 00:13:26.639 --> 00:13:30.360 compelled to show up for his deposition, dismisses the case. Right, 220 00:13:31.120 --> 00:13:34.480 and what does he do here? Today? Donald Trump invoked 221 00:13:34.480 --> 00:13:38.799 his Fifth Amendment again self incrimination. He previously said only 222 00:13:38.840 --> 00:13:43.039 mobsters invoke the Fifth. Right, he said only mobsters invoke 223 00:13:43.120 --> 00:13:47.320 the Fifth, Whereas Michael Cohen has testified more than any American, 224 00:13:47.360 --> 00:13:52.000 Donald Trump has invoked the Fifth Amendment more than any American. 225 00:13:52.120 --> 00:13:56.039 Fifth Fifth. He invoked the fifth originally in the civil 226 00:13:56.159 --> 00:14:00.559 fraud trial, and then he gave this like meandering position. 227 00:14:00.720 --> 00:14:04.759 But Donald Trump is mister invoked the fifth and he 228 00:14:04.799 --> 00:14:07.440 did it again. And Donald Trump after saying I'm gonna 229 00:14:07.440 --> 00:14:09.840 toast the four Yeah, I have nothing to hide, and 230 00:14:09.879 --> 00:14:13.879 his lawyers saying he's got nothing to hide. He is 231 00:14:14.240 --> 00:14:19.679 a loser. He's a loser. He is a weak loser, 232 00:14:20.240 --> 00:14:24.200 cower at his core. He's not a tough guy. He 233 00:14:24.440 --> 00:14:27.639 is a loser. And he always shows us what a 234 00:14:27.840 --> 00:14:32.320 loser he is over and over again. And I think today, look, 235 00:14:32.600 --> 00:14:35.639 the jury can't be told Dina in a criminal case. Oh, 236 00:14:35.679 --> 00:14:38.679 he's invoking the fifth, so have an adverse inference. He 237 00:14:38.720 --> 00:14:42.840 has a constitutional right to invoke it. But here in 238 00:14:42.879 --> 00:14:46.840 the court of public opinion. We should say, Donald Trump, 239 00:14:47.159 --> 00:14:52.159 you are the biggest freaking cry baby loser that there is. 240 00:14:52.399 --> 00:14:56.279 You are a weak, weak loser. That's who you are. 241 00:14:56.399 --> 00:15:01.120 Diana, all Right, that was true, Bed, That was I 242 00:15:01.200 --> 00:15:04.039 just have to take that in for a second. Maybe 243 00:15:04.080 --> 00:15:07.799 he will hear it. He can't change his mind, unfortunately. Yeah, 244 00:15:07.879 --> 00:15:10.960 that he's obsessed with the cold right, I mean I 245 00:15:11.000 --> 00:15:14.399 don't understand that honestly, Like I know, we it's we're 246 00:15:14.399 --> 00:15:17.720 far from trying to understand Donald Trump, But his obsession 247 00:15:18.240 --> 00:15:20.600 with the cold courtroom, I don't know. I feel like 248 00:15:20.600 --> 00:15:24.360 a psychologist needs to like break that down. He is 249 00:15:24.440 --> 00:15:27.879 willing to lie all the time. Like in his press 250 00:15:27.879 --> 00:15:31.000 conference yesterday he says, how we you know he's the 251 00:15:31.000 --> 00:15:34.720 word we we you know didn't do the legers. He 252 00:15:34.720 --> 00:15:38.639 basically admitted to the whole crime. That's why he doesn't 253 00:15:38.639 --> 00:15:41.080 take the fifth because he did what he did. He 254 00:15:41.120 --> 00:15:44.200 has told us enough, you know, in his tweets he 255 00:15:44.240 --> 00:15:47.360 talked about it being a reimbursement, and in his press 256 00:15:47.360 --> 00:15:51.039 conference yea yesterday he says, we, you know, didn't you 257 00:15:51.039 --> 00:15:55.240 know do this like he did it? And that's you know, 258 00:15:55.679 --> 00:16:00.240 he has cheated his way through his entire life. He's 259 00:16:00.480 --> 00:16:04.240 so corrupt. He's done it with all of his businesses. 260 00:16:04.759 --> 00:16:08.759 He's doing it with his public company now. And he 261 00:16:08.799 --> 00:16:11.480 did it with our presidency. He did it as a candidate, 262 00:16:12.039 --> 00:16:14.480 he did it once he got in office, he did 263 00:16:14.480 --> 00:16:17.600 it once he lost the office. He's doing it again. 264 00:16:18.080 --> 00:16:20.799 And you know, Fox News, they have covered all thirty 265 00:16:20.840 --> 00:16:25.519 three of his little press conferences before and after the 266 00:16:26.159 --> 00:16:29.279 hearing where he just lies all the time about the 267 00:16:29.360 --> 00:16:34.039 judges and anything else, or yesterday and midst the entire crime. 268 00:16:35.159 --> 00:16:37.720 You know. But yes, he's not willing to go and 269 00:16:37.759 --> 00:16:41.000 sit in that stand because he can't. He did it, 270 00:16:41.360 --> 00:16:45.399 and he knows he did it. And I still think 271 00:16:45.519 --> 00:16:48.679 I really wish that we had had cameras or at 272 00:16:48.759 --> 00:16:53.360 least sound coming from that courtroom, because there was I 273 00:16:53.399 --> 00:16:56.879 really feel like people needed to hear how fair that 274 00:16:57.000 --> 00:17:02.279 judge was. He's really impressive. And that's why, you know, 275 00:17:02.279 --> 00:17:04.920 Trump couldn't do it, because there's no way he was 276 00:17:04.920 --> 00:17:06.880 going to be able to overcome the evidence in there. 277 00:17:07.599 --> 00:17:11.519 Look, I wish he actually wasn't such a loser, because 278 00:17:11.559 --> 00:17:14.200 it's just so embarrassing for our country that the leader 279 00:17:14.480 --> 00:17:17.640 of one of our two major political parties, is such 280 00:17:17.680 --> 00:17:22.640 a loser, Like he dresses up these maga Republican Congress 281 00:17:22.640 --> 00:17:25.319 members and they show up in their red ties that 282 00:17:25.400 --> 00:17:28.119 don't fit them, and then they parrot what he says. 283 00:17:28.200 --> 00:17:31.680 How unfair it is and how depressing the courtroom is, 284 00:17:31.880 --> 00:17:35.759 and the ultimate boot lickers. I truly wish that they 285 00:17:35.799 --> 00:17:39.319 weren't such losers, and like, you know, you know, that 286 00:17:39.319 --> 00:17:42.200 he was like at least somewhat competent, so you could 287 00:17:42.240 --> 00:17:44.759 be like, well, you know, at least they're somewhat you know, 288 00:17:44.839 --> 00:17:48.519 but like the the loser quality of it, how easy 289 00:17:48.559 --> 00:17:52.039 it is to call out the loser conduct and to 290 00:17:52.119 --> 00:17:54.759 predict what he's going to do, Like, look, he ain't 291 00:17:54.759 --> 00:17:57.279 going to debate. We all know he's gonna He's not 292 00:17:57.359 --> 00:17:59.519 going to debate. He's going to do the same thing 293 00:17:59.559 --> 00:18:03.319 he always does. Oh, we need a drug test, President Biden, 294 00:18:03.440 --> 00:18:06.119 we need to do a drug test. Oh. President Biden's 295 00:18:06.160 --> 00:18:09.519 not doing the Fox debate. It's unfair. Oh, Jake Tapper 296 00:18:09.599 --> 00:18:11.720 is the deep state. I'm not going to like I 297 00:18:12.640 --> 00:18:16.160 wish Dina it wasn't so predictable, because then I may 298 00:18:16.200 --> 00:18:19.640 not be as frustrated when corporate media doesn't cover it, 299 00:18:19.720 --> 00:18:22.799 like accurately, you know, like even like with that Wildwood, 300 00:18:22.799 --> 00:18:26.519 New Jersey event, right, there wasn't one hundred thousand people. 301 00:18:26.559 --> 00:18:30.799 There was like five to ten thousand people. And it's 302 00:18:30.880 --> 00:18:34.599 so easy to see it that the frustrating part is 303 00:18:34.680 --> 00:18:37.759 like when the Associated Press goes, oh, at eighty thousand 304 00:18:37.759 --> 00:18:40.480 and one hundred thousand people, and then I'm like, don't 305 00:18:40.480 --> 00:18:45.640 you realize that's Trump's people who are telling the maga 306 00:18:45.640 --> 00:18:49.759 mayor of Wildwood, who's under indictment, what the numbers are 307 00:18:50.039 --> 00:18:52.559 to tell the press so that they could use it 308 00:18:52.640 --> 00:18:57.079 to spread their propaganda. I wish it wasn't so easy 309 00:18:57.119 --> 00:18:59.920 to see it, because I think I may be less frustrated. 310 00:19:00.119 --> 00:19:04.240 It was like a complex Rubik's cube, and I was like, oh, oh, 311 00:19:04.359 --> 00:19:08.640 you got me, good, you got But it's so obvious, 312 00:19:08.799 --> 00:19:13.799 it's so flagrant. He's posting like bring back the Reich videos. 313 00:19:14.160 --> 00:19:17.519 I mean, it's so absurd that it even makes it 314 00:19:17.640 --> 00:19:23.119 doubly triply infinitely worse that it's so obvious in our face, 315 00:19:23.640 --> 00:19:27.599 and yet people are so easy to be manipulated by 316 00:19:27.640 --> 00:19:30.480 the corporate media of what is actually going on here. 317 00:19:30.759 --> 00:19:33.640 And you said at Bestina that they're doing such a 318 00:19:33.720 --> 00:19:37.279 disservice that when and if there is a guilty verdict, Look, 319 00:19:37.440 --> 00:19:40.319 there ain't gonna be an acquittal. Let's be clear, right, 320 00:19:40.440 --> 00:19:43.720 it's either going to be hung with one with maybe 321 00:19:43.839 --> 00:19:47.279 one juror holdout. That's rogue that nobody saw coming, which 322 00:19:47.519 --> 00:19:49.319 I hope is not the case. I don't think is 323 00:19:49.359 --> 00:19:52.279 the case. There ain't gonna be an acquittal. So if 324 00:19:52.359 --> 00:19:57.559 and when there's a guilty verdict, the public feels confused 325 00:19:57.880 --> 00:20:02.519 because they're not being educated on the transcripts and what's 326 00:20:02.599 --> 00:20:05.720 really happening in the courtroom like you do, Dina and 327 00:20:05.799 --> 00:20:09.039 Karen Freeman, Agnifolo and Popac and we do here unbeat down. 328 00:20:10.079 --> 00:20:13.039 Oh absolutely. And I think part of the problem too 329 00:20:13.079 --> 00:20:17.400 with Trump and his circle is they do so many 330 00:20:17.519 --> 00:20:22.279 bad things that you know, people move on, right, like 331 00:20:22.400 --> 00:20:26.240 even just the press conference, Like I'm actually still just 332 00:20:26.519 --> 00:20:29.839 so bothered about the number of politicians that have showed 333 00:20:29.960 --> 00:20:34.599 up and disparaged our justice system like that to me, 334 00:20:34.880 --> 00:20:37.359 like if that had even happened, you know a few 335 00:20:37.440 --> 00:20:40.839 years ago, we would be I think more upset about it. 336 00:20:40.920 --> 00:20:43.880 But now it's reported like, oh Okay, somebody's showing up, 337 00:20:43.960 --> 00:20:48.200 somebody's showing up. I again, I think what he's doing 338 00:20:48.279 --> 00:20:51.440 today to our justicistm is what he did to our media. 339 00:20:52.000 --> 00:20:54.599 He's so damaged the reputation of our media. I think 340 00:20:54.640 --> 00:20:57.000 it's never come back. And I'm really worried he's doing 341 00:20:57.000 --> 00:20:59.640 that to our justice system. And we have elected a 342 00:20:59.680 --> 00:21:05.559 ficials participating in this and that today. The person who 343 00:21:05.559 --> 00:21:08.720 spoke today was talked about the ruling class, right, like 344 00:21:08.799 --> 00:21:13.079 the ruling class, you know, taking it to Donald Trump, 345 00:21:13.480 --> 00:21:15.720 and I'm like, you're the ruling class. I mean, I 346 00:21:15.759 --> 00:21:18.160 know a reporter said Donald Trump is the ruling class, 347 00:21:18.200 --> 00:21:20.559 but so are all those politicians if they don't think 348 00:21:20.599 --> 00:21:23.799 they're there because of power and privilege, Like that's the 349 00:21:23.880 --> 00:21:26.200 ruling class in our country. Do you think that everyday 350 00:21:26.240 --> 00:21:29.279 Americans can leave their jobs and go travel in front 351 00:21:29.279 --> 00:21:33.000 of a courtroom and have the luxury of speaking their 352 00:21:33.119 --> 00:21:39.200 opinion about it. No, if you on your job employers dime, 353 00:21:39.920 --> 00:21:43.680 can go and travel to a jurisdiction that has absolutely 354 00:21:43.839 --> 00:21:46.720 nothing to do with your job for the sole purpose 355 00:21:46.839 --> 00:21:50.119 of talking about something that has absolutely nothing to do 356 00:21:50.200 --> 00:21:53.519 with your job. You are the ruling class, and you 357 00:21:53.599 --> 00:21:56.960 are using that power and that privilege that those voters 358 00:21:57.039 --> 00:22:00.400 have given you not to do your job, but to 359 00:22:00.519 --> 00:22:05.160 disparage our justice system, which doesn't belong to Trump, It 360 00:22:05.200 --> 00:22:08.200 doesn't belong to Maga, it doesn't replong to those people 361 00:22:08.519 --> 00:22:11.519 in front of those microphones. It belongs to us, and 362 00:22:11.599 --> 00:22:14.920 as a lawyer and really just as like an everyday American. 363 00:22:15.400 --> 00:22:18.480 That really is almost one of the most upsetting things 364 00:22:18.480 --> 00:22:19.319 about this child. 365 00:22:20.160 --> 00:22:23.599 I want to show that clip of the Texas Lieutenant 366 00:22:23.640 --> 00:22:27.039 Governor Maga, Republican who showed up and said that. I 367 00:22:27.079 --> 00:22:29.720 also want to show you Donald Trump as he was 368 00:22:29.839 --> 00:22:32.279 leaving the courthouse moments ago. And then I want to 369 00:22:32.319 --> 00:22:36.200 show you as well some other clips you and I 370 00:22:36.240 --> 00:22:39.119 will go over. Let's do that, but let's take just 371 00:22:39.160 --> 00:22:40.480 our first quick break of the show. 372 00:22:41.359 --> 00:22:43.519 Have you ever wished that you had whiter and a 373 00:22:43.559 --> 00:22:47.440 brighter smile? Well before you visit a dentist used to 374 00:22:47.480 --> 00:22:50.920 know that they're whitening treatments. They're very expensive, and you 375 00:22:50.960 --> 00:22:53.519 know what, it's not just the price. You also have 376 00:22:53.599 --> 00:22:56.960 to book the appointment, schedule time away from work or 377 00:22:56.960 --> 00:23:00.200 family to sit in the dentist's office chair well to 378 00:23:00.240 --> 00:23:05.519 going this procedure. 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