Speaker 1: What's up everyone, and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles.
Today is the fourteenth day of the Gallaine Maxwell trial,
and we are kind of in a holding pattern as
we await on the defense to begin making their case
starting Thursday. So what we're going to do is continue
to fill in some of those blanks. Now, when we
talk about Jeffrey Epstein and Glaine Maxwell, you cannot talk
about these people without talking about how they used class
warfare basically on poor people. Now, when I say that,
I mean they chose people who came from poor and
broken homes, people who only had one parent in their home,
people who have been abused, whatever it may be. These
were the people that Jeffrey Epstein and Glaine Maxwell targeted
on a daily basis. And when you look at one
of their main centers of operation, which was Palm Beach,
the discrepancy between wealth a mirror five or six miles
away between West Palm Beach and Palm Beach is mind boggling.
Now I live in Las Vegas, so I see this
all the time. You live in a place like Las Vegas,
and you look at Las Vegas Boulevard, all of the money,
all of the wealth, all of the prestige. You take
a quick drive two miles east one mile east into
East Las Vegas, into central Las Vegas, and you see
right away how different of a story it is. Homeless camps,
people struggling, you know, daily weekly apartments, the whole flip.
And you can see how there's almost an invisible line
from where the wealth ends and the misery begins. And
I'm sure most of you, wherever you're from, if you're
from a big city, you have areas like this as well.
I watched a documentary about kids in Orange County, California,
and it broke my heart. These kids lived across the
street from Disneyland and these hotels, and obviously their parents
never had the money to bring them to Disneyland. So
these kids every night would watch the fireworks go over
into the parking lots, hang out in the parking garage,
but they never had a chance to actually go into
the park. And it's just it's a microcosm of how
society is in general at this point. There are those
who have and then there's the rest of us. And
when I talk about the discrepancy in wealth, I'm not
talking about you know, your buddy Joe who went to
school and worked his way up and earning a great living.
Now I'm talking about generational wealth. I'm talking about wealth
that most of us will never even be able to comprehend.
And that's the kind of wealth that Maxwell and Epstein
came from. Maxwell, especially Epstein by proxy. But Maxwell was
born into this. Her father, Robert Maxwell, super rich guy.
What do you think they were sitting around talking well
of poor people? Of course they weren't. So Glenn Maxwell
has always been one of these upper crust types who
looks down her nose at the rest of us. And
all you have to do again is listen to the
survivors themselves. Cut out the middleman. You really need some
jerk off from the New York Times to tell you
the deal when the survivors are telling you the story themselves.
Glenn Maxwell had a pretty shitty opinion of people who
were poor. Layne Maxwell, according to all of these allegations
and to what a lot of these survivors have said,
had nothing good to say about people who were poor.
And when you add all of that up and you
look at the people that they targeted, it's rather obvious
what was going on here. It's rather obvious that Glainne
Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein weren't doing this on a whim.
This was planned out, This was plotted out. And we
go back to New Mexico once again, because it's the
elephant in the room. He chose New Mexico for a reason.
He knew that he could take these girls there and
look at little penalty, little to no penalty in fact,
for abusing them. Oh well, sixteen's the age of consent.
They consented, says you. And of course, who was brought
to Zorro Ranch, who was brought to the Manhattan townhouse,
who was down to Palm Beach or the Virgin Islands?
Girls from broken homes, girls who were poor, and girls
that Maxwell and Epstein looked at as less then, And
that's just the fact of the situation. That's how they
looked at it, looked at people, looked at us, everybody,
but these girls specifically, there were nothing more to them
than a thing to be traded, a commodity. And we
all know that that's not how things should be. No
human beings should ever be put into any kind of
servitude or thought that they have to use their body
to get by. It's not how this is supposed to work.
And then the fact that this guy and Maxwell and
the rest of these scumbags got away with it for
so long, with so many girls coming out and telling
their story, is just beyond the pale. But when you
look at the overall picture here and you look at
the between Epstein and Maxwell and their criminal enterprise, it
was always the same kind of girls who were targeted,
poor and from the other side of the tracks. This morning,
we're gonna touch on an article from Financial Times that
kind of goes into this a little bit, and we're
gonna see what they have to say about it. This
article was authored by Joshua Choffin. On the eighth day
of the government sex trafficking case against Glaine Maxwell, a
prosecutor asked a witness known as Sean what the difference
was between Palm Beach and West Palm Beach, two Florida
towns separated by a drawbridge. And he's no object over there,
said Sean, a West Palm Beach native, sounding as though
the nearby island were a different planet. Growing up, He
told the jerry he had very rarely even ventured into
Palm Beach because I didn't have enough money to buy
anything in the gas station. That changed, he said, when
he began ferrying his fourteen year old girlfriend to the
island to provide sexualized massages for Jeffrey Epstein. Soon they
were struggling to find the store to change the bills
in West Palm Beach, where they don't accept one hundred
dollar bills. Sean explained, that's something you'll see in a
lot of poor neighborhoods, for sure, the fact that they're
not going to accept those one hundred dollar bills. You
better come with something smaller, for sure. And according to Sean,
he went from not being able to afford anything in
the gas station to have in all these hundred dollar
bills after bringing Caroly and his girlfriend over for sexualized
massages at Jeffrey Epstein's house. Classes threaded throughout the Epstein story.
Maxwell and Oxford educated product of fee paying British public schools,
used hers to smooth the social path of the Coney
Island born Epstein when they joined forces in the early
nineteen nineties Manhattan now classes present in Maxwell's criminal trial too.
It loomed as witnesses recounted over the last two weeks
how a tall British woman with that with what one
called a proper English accent, lured them when they were
young and poor, into a world beyond their imagination. So
you get the idea here where he's going in the article,
And the fact of the matter is, this is exactly
what happened. Jeffrey Epstein and Glene Maxwell chose these young
girls from these broken homes because they knew that they'd
be able to get away with it, or that it
would be more likely that they'd be able to get
away with it. So they went on there spree. And
you want to talk about the early nineties, we can
go back a little bit earlier, even Jeffrey Epstein. Look,
this isn't something that just happens overnight. You don't wake
up one morning and have a broken brain like this dude,
and think trafficking little girls is a good idea. You
came off the assembly line fucked up. You're a lemon.
There ain't no fixing you. It doesn't matter what mechanic
we bring you to. Nobody's fixing you, bro. People like
this need to be put underneath the jail. The author
goes on in the article to say it sounded practically
like a Dickinson novel when one, a Maxwell accuser, described
how Epstein had sent a chauffeur driven car to bring
her and her mother across the bridge for tea at
his Palm Beach mansion. The girl was fourteen at the
time and her father had died months earlier, bankrupting the family.
She said. After offering himself as her patron, Epstein would
go on to abuse the girl for years, she testified.
Maxwell helped, she said, by winning her confidence and gradually
pushing her boundaries. Maxwell would help normalize all of it.
That was her role. Maxwell was the one to make
these girls feel comfortable, the one where you know, if
you're one of these girls, you'd say to yourself, Ah,
this lady with this posh accent, this is never going
to happen to me. I'm never going to get abused
in the when I'm in the company of somebody like
Glaine Maxwell. And then all of that is flipped on
its head. Everything that these girls thought was going to
be the case turned out to be something completely different.
And then the whole well, why do they keep going back?
You got to get deeper into the nuance of it all,
My friend, People who have that kind of commentary, don't
really understand what goes on here and the psyche behind
all of it. There is so much that goes on,
as far as the gas lighting, Stockholm syndrome, the grooming,
the normalization of it all. It's just absurd how much
goes into it. But it's effective. When these people get
their hooks into somebody, it's almost impossible to get them out.
When you normalize this kind of weird ass weirdo behavior.
When kids are young and their brains are still developing,
it's a whole lot easier to get them involved, to
have them as part of the operation, right, send them
out to bring in other girls, because you've normalized it
to them, so in their brains they say, well, this
is normal behavior. Maybe my friends want to make some money.
And it goes on and on and on. And remember,
it couldn't have happened if it was just Epstein, some
creepy ass, old looking weirdo. He had to have all
of these other moving parts, the Glaine Maxwell's, the Sarah
Helln Vickers, the Leslie Groffs, the Adriana Rosses. And you
look at Nadia Marchenkova, her situation, her being, you know,
given to Jeffrey Epstein as a fifteen year old to
be groomed and molded to what he wants. That's a
whole different kind of disgusting, draconian sadness. But Epstein couldn't
have done this in a vacuum. He couldn't have done
this without the help of somebody like Glaine Maxwell. The
article goes on to say Maxwell denies this and other
suggestions of wrongdoing. Her attorneys insist she has been made
a scapegoat for the sins of Epstein, who died by
suicide allegedly in a New York prison cell a month
after he was arrested in two thousand and nineteen. So
that is the premise for her defense. There's no doubt
about it. Let's try and destroy the credibility of the
survivors and accusers, and let's make sure we pin this
all on Epstein, because there's no way Galliane Maxwell could
have been involved in this right, no way at all.
But yet here we are once again with another story
about Gallane Maxwell, with more witness testimony about Gallaine Maxwell.
And while it is a not unexpected move on the
part of the defense to try and make it all
about Epstein, The fact of the matter is this Galline
Maxwell was present. Glan Maxwell was actively participating, according to
the allegations, and this is not about Jeffrey Epstein. This
is about Gallane Maxwell. They have also try to use
class to their advantage during the trial. In her opening statement,
attorney Bobby Sternham claimed the accusers were money grabbers who
had twisted the truth in hopes of financial jackpot. It
was reminiscent of political strategists James Carville dismissing former President
Clinton sexual accusers in nineteen ninety four by remarking, drag
one hundred dollar bill through a trailer park, you never
know what you'll find. Yeah, remember that, James Carville, mister
big time big shot over there under the umbrella. That's
how they feel about you, all of them. Bill Clinton,
Hillary Clinton. They don't think they care about you. They
think that if they drag one hundred dollar bill through
a trailer park that maybe you know, one of your
family members will bite, Maybe they can bring one of
your family members into the fold. A bunch of sick
bastards with comments like that. And still somebody who's running
around on TV right, where's his cancel culture moment? Yeah,
don't don't worry I and hold my breath either. It
is not clear whether class issues will sway the jury
of mostly working class New Yorkers who will decide the
fate of a British socialite or you know, co conspirator, general,
all around scuzbag, fellow child abuser, and bipedal serpent. Throughout
the trial, prosecutors have shown them photos of Epstein's private
jets and opulent properties in New York, New Mexico, the Caribbean,
and Palm Beach, where the bathroom had a sofa. Oh well,
bathroom had a sofa, So there's that. As a gossip columnist,
columnist in Palm Beach, Jose Lambia developed a jaded view
about the divide between Palm Beach, a manicured bunker of
old money, and West Palm Beach, a place that was
originally built the house that housed the help and long
suffered from a reputation of drugs and violence. Well that's
how it always goes, right, You've built a shanty town
for the hired help, and and then you know, let's
treat them like shit, let them live in weeklies, whatever
it may be. But as long as the stench isn't
permeating over there into a Palm Beach where you got
all that beautiful money right where people like Trump and
Epstein are hanging out. Can't have it over there. Keep
that shit six miles away. No gentrification projects, none of
these big shot loud mouths who live in the area
stepping up to help the community like usual. Just take, take, take,
and take. And at the same time, ah, if we
abuse some poor kids along the way, who gives a fuck, Well,
breaking news, you disgusting assholes. We all do. The story
here in my book is how the rich have once
again found a way to screw the poor. Lambiit who
now works as a private detective. Set of the Epstein case,
these girls were from five or six miles away, as
the crow flew, where the houses are worth fifty or
sixty thousand dollars. That's how much one of these people,
Jeffrey Epstein and his friends watches cost whole house for
sixty thousand dollars. It shows you the sort of destitution,
the poverty that was present in the area and in
the neighborhood where Epstein and Glene Maxwell went and picked
their prey. West Palm Beach just across the intracoastal Waterway
from Palm Beach has changed. As the region has as prospered,
it has caught some of the spillover as billionaires have
pushed millionaires off Palm Beach Island. It is now becoming
a hub for hedge funds fleeing New York to take
advantage of Florida's low taxes. Goldman Sachs is, just leave space.
So now what will happen is these scumbags, hedge funders
and the rest will come in and they'll eat up
all the property. It'll shoot up property prices and values.
There'll be no gentrification, and they'll simply reap the benefits
of the tax structure of Florida. We're seeing it here
in East Las Vegas as we speak. The idea is,
if you're gonna come into one of these areas, you
have to gentrify it with your billions of dollars. You're
catching all kinds of breaks on the tax end, and
here you are just stuffing money in your pockets like
the robber barons you are. It is absurd. Still, downbeat
pockets remain, as they do in other towns in the vicinity,
such as Royal, Palm Beach and Locks of Hatchie, from
which many of Epstein's survivors held. I've never seen a
divide quite like the one in Palm Beach County, said
Jonathan Beaton, who worked as a television reporter in the
area for many years. You can go from heaven to
hell in fifteen miles. Look, I gotta tell you that's
pretty much par for the course here in Las Vegas too.
Like I said in the opening, you can go in
Las Veigs, I guess you can be in one neighborhood
where there are literally ten twenty million dollar homes and
a mile away there'll be a homeless camp. But these
people are insulated from it, right. They're living in their communities.
They're gated communities with guards, no access to the whole nine,
while the rest of us are just left to suffer.
You can also find resentment. When he testified last week,
Juanna Lessi was still bitter from his dozen years as
Epstein's Palm Beach property manager. It was slavery, he said, So, yeah,
wouldn't you resent that as well if you were, you know,
working to the bone by Jeffrey Epstein and Maxwell And
they're not giving you the proper compensation. Now, don't get
it twisted. I'm not a fan of Wuana Lessi. I've
told you guys that from Jump Street. If this man
was really bout it, he would have stepped up to
the plate back in the day and tried to stop
this shit. But he didn't like the rest of these scoundrels,
so he'll never be a good guy far as I'm concerned.
Maxwell called them John and institute at house rules that
he found degrading. One example, Maxwell forbade him and staff
for making eye contact with Epstein. I don't know why
you'd want to make eye contact with Epstein anyway, tell
you the truth, gross ass ugly son of a bitch.
She later reprimanded Alessi in an email to another staffer
for doing a truly awful job after he had allegedly
failed the stock pens and bottled water in the black
MRK that is the Mercedes. So stop the press, folks.
There's no water and there's no pens in the black Mercedes. Well,
I wonder if you remembered the gray poupon. Alessi took
his revenge after he quit returning to the house in
two thousand and three and swiping sixty three hundred in
cash from Epstein. He even admitted under cross examination, well,
what's he gonna do? Lie? I think that that's kind
of going to backfire on the prosecution. I mean the
defense as well. There's no such thing as a perfect witness, right,
and a LESSI being somebody who is obviously a pretty scummy.
It shouldn't take away from the fact of the testimony
as far as what he's seen. Now, certainly it comes
down to credibility and reliability and what the jurors are
going to feel and believe, so that certainly comes into play.
But there's no such thing as a perfect witness. All
my life, I worked very hard and saved a lot
of money, including the time I worked for mister Epstein,
he said, attempting to defend his honor. At times. The
social gap between Maxwell, daughter of the late British press
baron and embezzler Robert Maxwell, and her accusers has seemed
unimaginably vast. Again, here's another question to ask yourself, what's
Maxwell doing hanging out with all of these girls? Anyway?
All right, let's say perfect world, there wasn't all of
this evidence against her Why are you hanging out with
girls from downtrodden backgrounds, girls that are from broken homes
and girls that are literally fourteen and fifteen years old?
What possible excuse can you have for that? You don't
think the prosecution should ask something, should ask something like that.
It's just, you know, when when we look back at
this and we take a look in hindsight, I think
we're gonna see so many missed opportunities by prosecution. While
Maxwell flew on the concord, was friends with Britain's Prince
Andrew and attended Chelsea Clinton's wedding, one of her accusers, Carolyn,
dropped out of middle school in West Palm Beach at
thirteen and beg and began dating Sean, then seventeen, who
lived across the street. Carolyn had been molested by her grandfather,
she told the Jerry, and her mother was an alcoholic
and a drug addict. Now add to that what Max
will Well and Epstein did to her, and you have
the perfect storm now for Maxwell's lawyers to go after
her the way they did and try and make her
feel like she was a piece of shit. Reprehensible in
my opinion, of course, that's their job. I get. It
doesn't mean I can't find it reprehensible, because I do,
because I'm an idiot. She equipped with a kind of
lower class fatalism when asked by a prosecutor to explain
why she was arrested in twenty eleven for cocaine possession.
Drive around and smoke pot is how Sean described their relationship.
So because somebody smokes pot, by the way, that makes
them a bad person or a liar or somebody who
is unreliable. It's a ridiculous line, right, And the whole
bringing up the drugs and all of that, it just
it goes right back to their whole entire game plan
and their book of tricks. From the original prosecution. Carolyn
was brought to Epstein by another local teenager, Virginia Roberts,
whose father worked at an adam in maintenance at Donald Trump's
Mar A Lago club on Palm Beach. I was young,
and three hundred dollars was a lot of money to me,
Carolyn said, of Robert's offer to earn some cash by
helping her massage a rich man and Palm Beach for
an hour. Now, remember we're talking about two little girls. Okay,
The pyramid scheme of human beings that Jeffrey Epstein and
Maxwell was running. They'd bring in one girl, in this instance,
it was Virginia. They'd groom her, normalize her, and then
send her out to bring in more friends. Now, mind you,
these girls are all little girls when they're doing this,
and that was how they had this pyramid scheme running,
especially in Palm Beach, for years, and even when somebody
ratted them out, Even when one of these girls went
to the authorities, all Epstein got was the minor slap
on the wrist he ended up with. The first time
she went to Epstein's house, Carolyn testified she was greeted
by a woman with an English accent who would arrange
some of the one hundred or so sexualized massages she
would give Epstein over the next two years. She ended
up calling her Maxwell. Carolyn said, why, the prosecutor asked,
because I couldn't exactly pronounce her first name correctly. Yeah,
you and everybody else. When this all first started, I
couldn't pronounce her name correctly either. Then again, I'm terrible
at pronouncing names. I speak New York Italian, so sometimes
the pronunciation is a little bit off. Shall we say
Carolyn went on to become a drug addict, a prostitute,
and a single mother. In court last week, she was
face to face with Maxwell, who sat just across from her.
At one point she railed at her, you broke my soul.
Gut wrenching, folks. It really is gut wrenching and horrible,
all of it. It makes me sad. And the fact
that it's the most vulnerable amongst us every single time
you turn around, is just another reason to want to
see these people brought to justice. Now will they be?
That's the definite question we're all asking. We'll have to
see what kind of defense Maxwell and her team brings
to the table starting Thursday, and if they bring all
thirty five of those alleged witnesses to the box. Another
thing that I doubt's going to happen, but we have
to discuss, is will Maxwell take the stand herself? Very
interesting question, no doubt about it. As you can see,
I uploaded a couple of episodes for some context, Scott
Borgerson episode, some other stuff, and I'll continue to do
that throughout the day Today, same schedule as we've been
on and tonight I'll be back with Morning the I mean,
the evening wrap up, and we'll see where we're at
and what we should expect come tomorrow. But for now, folks,
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I'll be back later on. I hope that all of
you have a great day. What's up everyone, and welcome
back to the Epstein Chronicles. This morning, we talked a
little bit about how there was no doubt about the
mo of Jeffrey Epstein and Glene Maxwell and how they
targeted the most vulnerable amongst us. It has never been
in doubt for me, it has never been in doubt
for anybody who's really taken a look at this case.
And the fact that Maxwell's team was so insistent on
trying to frame it as Maxwell not being so on
from so called elite society should tell you everything that
you need to know. But jurors aren't stupid. Right. They're
not dumb people for the most part. They're average folks
like you or I get up every day, strap on
their work boots, and head on out to provide a
living for their family. So they don't have any time
for bs, right, they don't have any time for any
nonsense or for attorneys attempting to gaslight them and try
and frame it as if Maxwell and Epstein weren't living
that jet setter life. Those are just the facts. That's
what they were doing. And if that's all they were doing,
then it would be perfectly fine. Right. You want to
make a bunch of money and then go around and
you know, do whatever it is you want to do.
As long as it's with consenting adults, then hey, I'm
all for it. I'm certainly not anybody's moral compass. What
you do in your bedroom is your own business, as
long as it's with people who consent. And that's where
we run into the issue here, isn't it. You'll have
Epstein and Maxwell's legal team saying that, oh, it's consensual,
when in reality, these survivors are telling a different story
and this isn't something that just came up out of
the blue all of a sudden in twenty nineteen, twenty twenty.
Now there's a big issue. There's been a big issue
for a very long time, and multiple police departments were
made aware of it, the FBI was made aware of it.
Politicians knew what was up. You even had what's her
name from redd at Ellen Powe talk about how everybody
knew what they were up to. But yet they're all
still going to parties with them, right Glenn Maxwell's still
getting invited to Jeffrey Beso's cool little summer bash, isn't she?
So when it comes to the halves versus the have nots,
it's the age old argument, isn't it. And you look
at Maxwell and Epstein and the people that they couldvort with,
and it is the epitome of those who believe that
they're better than us because they have a couple of
bucks more than us. And for a long time, that
story was enough, that narrative was enough. But that's not
the case anymore. People are starting to understand that just
because you have a bunch of money, just because you're
a charitable guy, you have all of this, you know,
charity work that you do around the world. This that
the other thing that doesn't mean you aren't capable of
great evil when the lights go off. I say it
all the time, especially dealing with people in the Jeffrey
Epstein case, the Glain Max world. We're talking about a
bunch of twisted people. I don't even really know what
else to call them, right, these people are twisted. You're
hanging out with somebody with like Jeffrey Epstein after the fact,
after the fact that he was a sex offender, after
he was a registered sex offender level three in New
York at that these people still thought it would be
a good idea to go and hang out with them.
And it all comes back to money, right, money, power
and influence, and for the people that are trying to
belly up to Epstein and Maxwell, the people trying to
get into their world, That's what it was all about. Now.
For Epstein and Glenn Maxwell, sure it was about the financials,
but it was about more. And for them a lot
of it had to do with the profiles they could
build on people, the sort of compromut they can get
on these people, and the age old honey trap. Right,
you got the old honeypot here, and you catch politicians
and business leaders in compromising positions, and it's bad news
in the best of times. Now if you do that
with underage girls, talk about having a lot of power
over somebody, And all you have to do is listen
to the survivors themselves, listen to people who worked there
at Epstein's properties, and you'll know that the whole place
was wired up for video, the whole entire joint and
Jeffrey Epstein was recording everything. You think he wasn't recording
what was going on in those bedrooms. You think he
didn't record who was walking in and out of those bedrooms.
So what was he doing with all of that information?
Just sitting on it or was he using it to
press people? Now that's where the Black Book comes in, right,
you have a who's who of the so called elite
society inside of this black book that have been that
has been compiled by Maxwell for Epstein. And now, of
course Judge Nathan doesn't want to have too much of
it come out, And of course people will say, well,
it's not part of the scope of the case. Ah,
that might be true, but there is a big transparency
issue for a very long time when it comes to
Jeffrey Epstein, Gallaine Maxwell and their behaviors and activities. And
I was hoping that Judge Nathan would continue on the
path that Judge Presca had set us on when it
comes to transparency, but that certainly hasn't been the case.
And I think that it would go a long way
if we had more transparency, not only in just this
case itself, but in general. Now, obviously we can't know everything, right,
we can't know the full manty of what the prosecution
has or anything like that. But when things are going
to be this much of a hot button topic, you
should have the phone line activated so we can call
in and listen. I don't think that's asking for too much,
especially during a pandemic. You know, I thought the whole
idea was to keep people outside of a big crowds.
Isn't that what they've been pitching to us? And leading
up to this, there had been a phone line the
whole entire time, so every time there was a proceeding,
we were able to call in and listen live ourselves
and not have to rely on people on the ground
or a limp wristed legacy media. But that wasn't the
case here. And now, believe me, I'm not talking any
kind of Oh, this is a grand cover up or conspiracy.
It's just the federal government in general. They don't ever
want to provide proper transparency. I mean, when you have
to sue the government for a Freedom of Information Act,
that should tell you everything you need to know. We
shouldn't have to sue them for stuff like that. And
then what they'll do is they'll say, oh, this is
an ongoing investigation, we can't give you that information. So
you're going to see a lot of that this week
with the Black Book. And that's why I posted those
two uploads earlier, one really early this morning and then
one a little while ago from Mother Jones and them
calling up everybody in that little Black Book. So it
would be nice to see more transparency, right, It would
be nice to see Judge Nathan provide us with a
big look behind the curtain. But they're going to keep
it to the scope and Judge Nathan's certainly going to
keep it to the scope of the people involved here.
Now again I don't agree with that, but that is
certainly what she's going to do. And anyone that's expecting
big bombshells to come from this, I would say that
you might want to tamper down your expectations. Now that said,
most of those names, that pretty much that whole black
book is available out there for you to check out yourself.
And there are a lot of interesting names inside of
that black book, no doubt about it. For me, it's
never been a well everybody who's in that Black Book
is involved in the abuse either, that's never been my
mymo For me, it just gives you a real look
behind the curtain, right of all of these loud mouth
ivory tower dwelling, pearl clutching big mouths who want to
tell you how to live your life every single day,
while at the same time they're running around, cavorting and
palaling around with Jeffrey Epstein and Glen Maxwell so much
so that their home numbers, their work numbers, their spouse's numbers. Oh,
they're all in this black book. So for me, that's
the most interesting part of it, right. And what it
does is it helps you corroborate certain individuals who have
been connected to Jeffrey Epstein, if you will, orgel Anne Maxwell,
connected to different periods of their activity together. So again,
it is one of those sorts of situations when you
look at this case overall, where there are so many
different rabbit holes to fall down, so many different threads
to pull on, and all of them seem to just
leave you with more questions than answers. And that is
exactly how it was all set up, right layer upon layer,
like a typical criminal enterprise, with a lot of insulation
between Epstein and Maxwell and all of this activity go
going on, and that black book, it really paints a
picture of the people that they were hanging out with.
Right Again, it's one thing for people to say, oh, yeah,
that's what they were doing. These are the people they
were hanging out with. And it's another thing for those
same people who were seen with Epstein or people that
talked about hanging out with Epstein or Maxwell, now they're
also in the book, and it's a little harder for
them to start distancing themselves. Right, if he has your
work phone number, your house phone number, you know, your
kid's school phone number, for God's sakes, right, pretty sure,
you guys are a little bit closer than a lot
of these people have wanted to let on about Gleainne
Maxwell at Glenn Maxwell, Jeffrey Epstein and their interpersonal relationships.
So let's take a little look here at an article
from The Independent about this black book and the headline
Glene Maxwell's Little Black Book to remain secret after judge
warns against needless name dropping. And again, needless name dropping
might be needless to you, Judge Nathan, but what about
the countless survivors out there? You think it's needless to them?
Glenn Maxwell's Little Black Book, containing the names and addresses
of nearly two thousand world leaders, celebrities and alleged victims,
will remain secret and not so much a secret right
It's out there for public consumption. Like I said, Mother
Jones called them, one of the one of the journalists
over there called them everybody in that book. And I
posted those episodes a little bit earlier, so definitely check
those out. And you can actually find the Black Book yourself,
just do a Google search. MSS Maxwell's defense attorneys came
to an agreement with prosecutors over the weekend not to
release the ninety seven page directory to the public. Judge
Alice and Nathan had previously said she wanted to avoid
needles is name dropping at the trial. So I don't
even understand what that means needless name dropping? How is
it needless if they're in the book. They're in the
book now, I guess needless. What she means is as
far as moving the case forward, right, moving justice forward,
moving the indictment forward, or whatever it may be. Now
to that, my counter would be, well, if this was
a Rico case, all of this would be relevant, wouldn't it.
Every single one of these people who are mentioned in
this book would be under suspicion as far as RICO counts.
Go go ahead and let your name be in a book,
write an address book from a mafioso don or a
cartel member, and let the Feds get their hands on
that book. And let's see if you're not part of
their RICO investigation, because you will be. That's how the
FEDS usually roll everything. Look, if they can hit you
with RICO, that's what they'll do. But they didn't do
it to Maxwell for some reason. I'll leave that up
to all of you to discern. But for some reason
they decided that, Ah, you know, we'll just hit r
Kelly with RICO. We'll hit Keith Rayin near you with RICO,
and we'll hit Alison Mack with RICO as well. But
Glenn Maxwell, Nah, we're gonna let her slide through. But
if they used RICO and they had a gigantic umbrella
here and not a small scope, because remember, under RICO,
they didn't just have to use crimes of a sexual nature.
They could go after you financially, you name it, every
which way you can imagine, they could go after you,
and they will. Now with the small scope here, it's
a little bit different, right. They can't go after the financials.
They didn't indict them on that. They didn't go after
any of the forensic information that is out there as
far as the financials go. You mean to tell me
that Jeffrey Epstein transferring thirty point seven million dollars to
Gleanne Maxwell doesn't ring any alarm bells. I'm sure all
of those transactions were done on the up and up
through places like Deutsche Bank and JP Morgan. I mean,
those people have never ever been slapped with financial fines,
have they? Oh wait, they have been, to the tune
of hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars. But what
does it matter you slap them with a fine. They
don't care. They're not paying for it. None of these
people ever get indicted. But if that is the if
that's what you truly wanted to do. As far as
the federal government, that would have been the pathway forward. Instead,
they chose this small scope and for what for whatever
reason that may be, that's the way they decided to go.
In this article they also talk about some of the
names that were mentioned, Prince Andrew, Bill Clinton, blah blah blah,
and uh. Damien Williams, a US attorney to Judge Nathan wrote,
it is not being offered for the truth of the
matters asserted therein and you may not consider for that purpose.
So Damian Williams is the head, the head guy down
there the SDNY, and you know he's the one really
calling the shots. Right at the end of the day.
Let's remember this is a bureaucracy, and it's not just
Maureen Comy or the team that's actually putting on the prosecution.
It goes up the ladder, right. So while I'm not
a fan of Maureen Comy, it's the same deal as
it was with Acosta. While she plays a part, she's
the one that's actually on the ground level here doing
the prosecution. It goes all the way up to Damian
Williams and then really it falls in the lap of
Merrick Garland, right, He's the Attorney General. At the end
of the day, you're the boss. Big responsibilities come with
that job. They talk about how form Epstein butler Alfredo
Rodriguez admitted to stealing the book as insurance and was
jailed for trying to sell it to an undercover FBI
agent for fifty thousand dollars. The redacted version also published
online by Gawker. So, look, the Black Book is obviously
going to come up, but it's not going to play
a huge part here, not going to be a huge
place of emphasis as far as moving this indictment forward.
So for those of you who were expecting that, I've
cautioned for a very long time that I wouldn't expect
those kinds of bombshells out of this case. Once we
saw that it wasn't going to be Rico, once we
saw that they took that tool out of their toolbox,
then the scope of it was pretty much in a
clear picture, and we understood that they were going with
the accusations of these four survivors over the ten year period.
So anything outside of that GOP really wouldn't be relevant
to the wanted indictments. So I think that as far
as the Black Book goes, you can figure out who's
in that book and what they were up to as
far as their relationship with Jeffrey Epstein and Glene Maxwell.
You just got to do a little detective work, dive
in and start putting the pieces together. Because when you
go back and you look at some of the articles
that have been published throughout you know, the years, there
has been a lot of good articles published, a lot
of good solid journalist work, but most of it has
come from outlets like Believe it or Not, the Daily
Mail or The Sun, and usually you know, you're a
look at that and you're like, oh shit, bigfoot coming in.
But that's not been the case. And now when you
look at all of it in hindsight, a lot of
it was spot on. So that stuff is out there
as far as the Black Book goes. You're not going
to need it to be put on blast here on
the trial for you to get a look at it.
But it would be nice, right, It would be nice
if this was a real, full encompassed trial that brought
in all of the co conspirators, you know, like they
did over at Nexium you figure that would be the
perfect blueprint for what went on here, But then you
get this situation where the scope is so small. So
it's going to be interesting to see which pieces and
parts of that book that they decide to introduce as
evidence or use or put up for public consumption during
this defense period here. So we'll keep an eye on
that for sure. But again, there needs to be more
transparency in general when it comes to the justice system,
when it comes to situations such as this, with such
a huge public interest, especially, I feel like it would
alleviate a lot of the nonsense, a lot of the
conspiracy theory, and a lot of the you know, just
living in fantasyland that you see from some people. But
the federal government they can't get out of their own way.
They love it, They love all of the chaos. I think,
then they can ride in and tell you who the
stupid person is or who the conspiracy theorist is. Meanwhile,
the government's contributing to all of it by not being transparent,
and unfortunately I don't see that ending anytime soon. But
as we move closer to the defense taking the stand,
it starts to come into more of a vivid picture
that the defense's whole entire strategy this whole entire time
has been to try and keep things out of the public,
I to try and keep things out as evidence and
at the same time launching their own brutal assaults on
the character of these witnesses. So we'll see what happens
on Thursday, we'll see what happens on Friday, and we'll
certainly be paying attention to what sort of information they
decide to use from this black book. All right, everybody,
I will be back tomorrow morning. We'll start the process
all over again, thankfully, just one more day of the recess,
and then we can get back to the meat and
potatoes of all of this as usual. I'll have some
more context episodes uploaded, and away we'll go. So I
hope that all of you have a great night, and
I will certainly talk to all of you tomorrow. If
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