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Speaker 1: What's up everyone, and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles.

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Today is the fourteenth day of the Gallaine Maxwell trial,

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and we are kind of in a holding pattern as

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we await on the defense to begin making their case

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starting Thursday. So what we're going to do is continue

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to fill in some of those blanks. Now, when we

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talk about Jeffrey Epstein and Glaine Maxwell, you cannot talk

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about these people without talking about how they used class

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warfare basically on poor people. Now, when I say that,

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I mean they chose people who came from poor and

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broken homes, people who only had one parent in their home,

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people who have been abused, whatever it may be. These

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were the people that Jeffrey Epstein and Glaine Maxwell targeted

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on a daily basis. And when you look at one

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of their main centers of operation, which was Palm Beach,

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the discrepancy between wealth a mirror five or six miles

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away between West Palm Beach and Palm Beach is mind boggling.

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Now I live in Las Vegas, so I see this

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all the time. You live in a place like Las Vegas,

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and you look at Las Vegas Boulevard, all of the money,

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all of the wealth, all of the prestige. You take

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a quick drive two miles east one mile east into

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East Las Vegas, into central Las Vegas, and you see

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right away how different of a story it is. Homeless camps,

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people struggling, you know, daily weekly apartments, the whole flip.

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And you can see how there's almost an invisible line

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from where the wealth ends and the misery begins. And

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I'm sure most of you, wherever you're from, if you're

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from a big city, you have areas like this as well.

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I watched a documentary about kids in Orange County, California,

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and it broke my heart. These kids lived across the

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street from Disneyland and these hotels, and obviously their parents

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never had the money to bring them to Disneyland. So

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these kids every night would watch the fireworks go over

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into the parking lots, hang out in the parking garage,

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but they never had a chance to actually go into

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the park. And it's just it's a microcosm of how

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society is in general at this point. There are those

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who have and then there's the rest of us. And

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when I talk about the discrepancy in wealth, I'm not

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talking about you know, your buddy Joe who went to

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school and worked his way up and earning a great living.

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Now I'm talking about generational wealth. I'm talking about wealth

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that most of us will never even be able to comprehend.

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And that's the kind of wealth that Maxwell and Epstein

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came from. Maxwell, especially Epstein by proxy. But Maxwell was

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born into this. Her father, Robert Maxwell, super rich guy.

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What do you think they were sitting around talking well

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of poor people? Of course they weren't. So Glenn Maxwell

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has always been one of these upper crust types who

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looks down her nose at the rest of us. And

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all you have to do again is listen to the

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survivors themselves. Cut out the middleman. You really need some

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jerk off from the New York Times to tell you

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the deal when the survivors are telling you the story themselves.

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Glenn Maxwell had a pretty shitty opinion of people who

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were poor. Layne Maxwell, according to all of these allegations

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and to what a lot of these survivors have said,

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had nothing good to say about people who were poor.

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And when you add all of that up and you

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look at the people that they targeted, it's rather obvious

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what was going on here. It's rather obvious that Glainne

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Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein weren't doing this on a whim.

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This was planned out, This was plotted out. And we

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go back to New Mexico once again, because it's the

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elephant in the room. He chose New Mexico for a reason.

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He knew that he could take these girls there and

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look at little penalty, little to no penalty in fact,

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for abusing them. Oh well, sixteen's the age of consent.

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They consented, says you. And of course, who was brought

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to Zorro Ranch, who was brought to the Manhattan townhouse,

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who was down to Palm Beach or the Virgin Islands?

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Girls from broken homes, girls who were poor, and girls

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that Maxwell and Epstein looked at as less then, And

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that's just the fact of the situation. That's how they

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looked at it, looked at people, looked at us, everybody,

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but these girls specifically, there were nothing more to them

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than a thing to be traded, a commodity. And we

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all know that that's not how things should be. No

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human beings should ever be put into any kind of

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servitude or thought that they have to use their body

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to get by. It's not how this is supposed to work.

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And then the fact that this guy and Maxwell and

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the rest of these scumbags got away with it for

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so long, with so many girls coming out and telling

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their story, is just beyond the pale. But when you

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look at the overall picture here and you look at

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the between Epstein and Maxwell and their criminal enterprise, it

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was always the same kind of girls who were targeted,

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poor and from the other side of the tracks. This morning,

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we're gonna touch on an article from Financial Times that

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kind of goes into this a little bit, and we're

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gonna see what they have to say about it. This

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article was authored by Joshua Choffin. On the eighth day

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of the government sex trafficking case against Glaine Maxwell, a

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prosecutor asked a witness known as Sean what the difference

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was between Palm Beach and West Palm Beach, two Florida

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towns separated by a drawbridge. And he's no object over there,

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said Sean, a West Palm Beach native, sounding as though

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the nearby island were a different planet. Growing up, He

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told the jerry he had very rarely even ventured into

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Palm Beach because I didn't have enough money to buy

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anything in the gas station. That changed, he said, when

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he began ferrying his fourteen year old girlfriend to the

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island to provide sexualized massages for Jeffrey Epstein. Soon they

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were struggling to find the store to change the bills

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in West Palm Beach, where they don't accept one hundred

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dollar bills. Sean explained, that's something you'll see in a

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lot of poor neighborhoods, for sure, the fact that they're

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not going to accept those one hundred dollar bills. You

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better come with something smaller, for sure. And according to Sean,

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he went from not being able to afford anything in

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the gas station to have in all these hundred dollar

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bills after bringing Caroly and his girlfriend over for sexualized

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massages at Jeffrey Epstein's house. Classes threaded throughout the Epstein story.

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Maxwell and Oxford educated product of fee paying British public schools,

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used hers to smooth the social path of the Coney

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Island born Epstein when they joined forces in the early

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nineteen nineties Manhattan now classes present in Maxwell's criminal trial too.

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It loomed as witnesses recounted over the last two weeks

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how a tall British woman with that with what one

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called a proper English accent, lured them when they were

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young and poor, into a world beyond their imagination. So

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you get the idea here where he's going in the article,

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And the fact of the matter is, this is exactly

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what happened. Jeffrey Epstein and Glene Maxwell chose these young

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girls from these broken homes because they knew that they'd

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be able to get away with it, or that it

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would be more likely that they'd be able to get

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away with it. So they went on there spree. And

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you want to talk about the early nineties, we can

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go back a little bit earlier, even Jeffrey Epstein. Look,

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this isn't something that just happens overnight. You don't wake

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up one morning and have a broken brain like this dude,

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and think trafficking little girls is a good idea. You

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came off the assembly line fucked up. You're a lemon.

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There ain't no fixing you. It doesn't matter what mechanic

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we bring you to. Nobody's fixing you, bro. People like

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this need to be put underneath the jail. The author

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goes on in the article to say it sounded practically

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like a Dickinson novel when one, a Maxwell accuser, described

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how Epstein had sent a chauffeur driven car to bring

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her and her mother across the bridge for tea at

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his Palm Beach mansion. The girl was fourteen at the

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time and her father had died months earlier, bankrupting the family.

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She said. After offering himself as her patron, Epstein would

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go on to abuse the girl for years, she testified.

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Maxwell helped, she said, by winning her confidence and gradually

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pushing her boundaries. Maxwell would help normalize all of it.

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That was her role. Maxwell was the one to make

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these girls feel comfortable, the one where you know, if

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you're one of these girls, you'd say to yourself, Ah,

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this lady with this posh accent, this is never going

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to happen to me. I'm never going to get abused

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in the when I'm in the company of somebody like

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Glaine Maxwell. And then all of that is flipped on

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its head. Everything that these girls thought was going to

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be the case turned out to be something completely different.

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And then the whole well, why do they keep going back?

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You got to get deeper into the nuance of it all,

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My friend, People who have that kind of commentary, don't

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really understand what goes on here and the psyche behind

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all of it. There is so much that goes on,

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as far as the gas lighting, Stockholm syndrome, the grooming,

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the normalization of it all. It's just absurd how much

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goes into it. But it's effective. When these people get

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their hooks into somebody, it's almost impossible to get them out.

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When you normalize this kind of weird ass weirdo behavior.

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When kids are young and their brains are still developing,

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it's a whole lot easier to get them involved, to

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have them as part of the operation, right, send them

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out to bring in other girls, because you've normalized it

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to them, so in their brains they say, well, this

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is normal behavior. Maybe my friends want to make some money.

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it couldn't have happened if it was just Epstein, some

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creepy ass, old looking weirdo. He had to have all

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of these other moving parts, the Glaine Maxwell's, the Sarah

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Helln Vickers, the Leslie Groffs, the Adriana Rosses. And you

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look at Nadia Marchenkova, her situation, her being, you know,

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given to Jeffrey Epstein as a fifteen year old to

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be groomed and molded to what he wants. That's a

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whole different kind of disgusting, draconian sadness. But Epstein couldn't

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have done this in a vacuum. He couldn't have done

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this without the help of somebody like Glaine Maxwell. The

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article goes on to say Maxwell denies this and other

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suggestions of wrongdoing. Her attorneys insist she has been made

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a scapegoat for the sins of Epstein, who died by

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suicide allegedly in a New York prison cell a month

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after he was arrested in two thousand and nineteen. So

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that is the premise for her defense. There's no doubt

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about it. Let's try and destroy the credibility of the

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survivors and accusers, and let's make sure we pin this

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all on Epstein, because there's no way Galliane Maxwell could

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have been involved in this right, no way at all.

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But yet here we are once again with another story

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about Gallane Maxwell, with more witness testimony about Gallaine Maxwell.

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And while it is a not unexpected move on the

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part of the defense to try and make it all

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about Epstein, The fact of the matter is this Galline

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Maxwell was present. Glan Maxwell was actively participating, according to

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the allegations, and this is not about Jeffrey Epstein. This

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is about Gallane Maxwell. They have also try to use

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class to their advantage during the trial. In her opening statement,

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attorney Bobby Sternham claimed the accusers were money grabbers who

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had twisted the truth in hopes of financial jackpot. It

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was reminiscent of political strategists James Carville dismissing former President

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Clinton sexual accusers in nineteen ninety four by remarking, drag

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one hundred dollar bill through a trailer park, you never

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know what you'll find. Yeah, remember that, James Carville, mister

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big time big shot over there under the umbrella. That's

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how they feel about you, all of them. Bill Clinton,

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Hillary Clinton. They don't think they care about you. They

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think that if they drag one hundred dollar bill through

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a trailer park that maybe you know, one of your

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family members will bite, Maybe they can bring one of

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your family members into the fold. A bunch of sick

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bastards with comments like that. And still somebody who's running

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around on TV right, where's his cancel culture moment? Yeah,

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don't don't worry I and hold my breath either. It

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is not clear whether class issues will sway the jury

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of mostly working class New Yorkers who will decide the

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fate of a British socialite or you know, co conspirator, general,

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all around scuzbag, fellow child abuser, and bipedal serpent. Throughout

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the trial, prosecutors have shown them photos of Epstein's private

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jets and opulent properties in New York, New Mexico, the Caribbean,

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and Palm Beach, where the bathroom had a sofa. Oh well,

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bathroom had a sofa, So there's that. As a gossip columnist,

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columnist in Palm Beach, Jose Lambia developed a jaded view

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about the divide between Palm Beach, a manicured bunker of

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old money, and West Palm Beach, a place that was

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originally built the house that housed the help and long

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suffered from a reputation of drugs and violence. Well that's

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how it always goes, right, You've built a shanty town

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for the hired help, and and then you know, let's

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treat them like shit, let them live in weeklies, whatever

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it may be. But as long as the stench isn't

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permeating over there into a Palm Beach where you got

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all that beautiful money right where people like Trump and

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Epstein are hanging out. Can't have it over there. Keep

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that shit six miles away. No gentrification projects, none of

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these big shot loud mouths who live in the area

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stepping up to help the community like usual. Just take, take, take,

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and take. And at the same time, ah, if we

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abuse some poor kids along the way, who gives a fuck, Well,

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breaking news, you disgusting assholes. We all do. The story

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here in my book is how the rich have once

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again found a way to screw the poor. Lambiit who

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now works as a private detective. Set of the Epstein case,

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these girls were from five or six miles away, as

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the crow flew, where the houses are worth fifty or

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sixty thousand dollars. That's how much one of these people,

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Jeffrey Epstein and his friends watches cost whole house for

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sixty thousand dollars. It shows you the sort of destitution,

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the poverty that was present in the area and in

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the neighborhood where Epstein and Glene Maxwell went and picked

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their prey. West Palm Beach just across the intracoastal Waterway

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from Palm Beach has changed. As the region has as prospered,

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it has caught some of the spillover as billionaires have

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pushed millionaires off Palm Beach Island. It is now becoming

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a hub for hedge funds fleeing New York to take

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advantage of Florida's low taxes. Goldman Sachs is, just leave space.

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So now what will happen is these scumbags, hedge funders

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and the rest will come in and they'll eat up

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all the property. It'll shoot up property prices and values.

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There'll be no gentrification, and they'll simply reap the benefits

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of the tax structure of Florida. We're seeing it here

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in East Las Vegas as we speak. The idea is,

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if you're gonna come into one of these areas, you

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have to gentrify it with your billions of dollars. You're

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catching all kinds of breaks on the tax end, and

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here you are just stuffing money in your pockets like

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the robber barons you are. It is absurd. Still, downbeat

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pockets remain, as they do in other towns in the vicinity,

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such as Royal, Palm Beach and Locks of Hatchie, from

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which many of Epstein's survivors held. I've never seen a

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divide quite like the one in Palm Beach County, said

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Jonathan Beaton, who worked as a television reporter in the

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area for many years. You can go from heaven to

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hell in fifteen miles. Look, I gotta tell you that's

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pretty much par for the course here in Las Vegas too.

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Like I said in the opening, you can go in

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Las Veigs, I guess you can be in one neighborhood

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where there are literally ten twenty million dollar homes and

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a mile away there'll be a homeless camp. But these

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people are insulated from it, right. They're living in their communities.

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They're gated communities with guards, no access to the whole nine,

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while the rest of us are just left to suffer.

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You can also find resentment. When he testified last week,

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Juanna Lessi was still bitter from his dozen years as

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Epstein's Palm Beach property manager. It was slavery, he said, So, yeah,

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wouldn't you resent that as well if you were, you know,

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working to the bone by Jeffrey Epstein and Maxwell And

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they're not giving you the proper compensation. Now, don't get

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it twisted. I'm not a fan of Wuana Lessi. I've

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told you guys that from Jump Street. If this man

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was really bout it, he would have stepped up to

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the plate back in the day and tried to stop

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this shit. But he didn't like the rest of these scoundrels,

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so he'll never be a good guy far as I'm concerned.

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Maxwell called them John and institute at house rules that

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he found degrading. One example, Maxwell forbade him and staff

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for making eye contact with Epstein. I don't know why

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you'd want to make eye contact with Epstein anyway, tell

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you the truth, gross ass ugly son of a bitch.

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She later reprimanded Alessi in an email to another staffer

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for doing a truly awful job after he had allegedly

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failed the stock pens and bottled water in the black

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MRK that is the Mercedes. So stop the press, folks.

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There's no water and there's no pens in the black Mercedes. Well,

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I wonder if you remembered the gray poupon. Alessi took

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his revenge after he quit returning to the house in

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two thousand and three and swiping sixty three hundred in

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cash from Epstein. He even admitted under cross examination, well,

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what's he gonna do? Lie? I think that that's kind

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of going to backfire on the prosecution. I mean the

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defense as well. There's no such thing as a perfect witness, right,

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and a LESSI being somebody who is obviously a pretty scummy.

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It shouldn't take away from the fact of the testimony

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as far as what he's seen. Now, certainly it comes

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down to credibility and reliability and what the jurors are

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going to feel and believe, so that certainly comes into play.

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But there's no such thing as a perfect witness. All

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my life, I worked very hard and saved a lot

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of money, including the time I worked for mister Epstein,

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he said, attempting to defend his honor. At times. The

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social gap between Maxwell, daughter of the late British press

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baron and embezzler Robert Maxwell, and her accusers has seemed

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unimaginably vast. Again, here's another question to ask yourself, what's

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Maxwell doing hanging out with all of these girls? Anyway?

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All right, let's say perfect world, there wasn't all of

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this evidence against her Why are you hanging out with

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girls from downtrodden backgrounds, girls that are from broken homes

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and girls that are literally fourteen and fifteen years old?

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What possible excuse can you have for that? You don't

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think the prosecution should ask something, should ask something like that.

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It's just, you know, when when we look back at

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this and we take a look in hindsight, I think

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we're gonna see so many missed opportunities by prosecution. While

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Maxwell flew on the concord, was friends with Britain's Prince

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Andrew and attended Chelsea Clinton's wedding, one of her accusers, Carolyn,

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dropped out of middle school in West Palm Beach at

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thirteen and beg and began dating Sean, then seventeen, who

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lived across the street. Carolyn had been molested by her grandfather,

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she told the Jerry, and her mother was an alcoholic

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and a drug addict. Now add to that what Max

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will Well and Epstein did to her, and you have

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the perfect storm now for Maxwell's lawyers to go after

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her the way they did and try and make her

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feel like she was a piece of shit. Reprehensible in

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my opinion, of course, that's their job. I get. It

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doesn't mean I can't find it reprehensible, because I do,

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because I'm an idiot. She equipped with a kind of

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lower class fatalism when asked by a prosecutor to explain

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why she was arrested in twenty eleven for cocaine possession.

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Drive around and smoke pot is how Sean described their relationship.

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So because somebody smokes pot, by the way, that makes

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them a bad person or a liar or somebody who

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is unreliable. It's a ridiculous line, right, And the whole

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bringing up the drugs and all of that, it just

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it goes right back to their whole entire game plan

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and their book of tricks. From the original prosecution. Carolyn

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was brought to Epstein by another local teenager, Virginia Roberts,

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whose father worked at an adam in maintenance at Donald Trump's

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Mar A Lago club on Palm Beach. I was young,

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and three hundred dollars was a lot of money to me,

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Carolyn said, of Robert's offer to earn some cash by

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helping her massage a rich man and Palm Beach for

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an hour. Now, remember we're talking about two little girls. Okay,

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The pyramid scheme of human beings that Jeffrey Epstein and

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Maxwell was running. They'd bring in one girl, in this instance,

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it was Virginia. They'd groom her, normalize her, and then

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send her out to bring in more friends. Now, mind you,

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these girls are all little girls when they're doing this,

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and that was how they had this pyramid scheme running,

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especially in Palm Beach, for years, and even when somebody

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ratted them out, Even when one of these girls went

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to the authorities, all Epstein got was the minor slap

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on the wrist he ended up with. The first time

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she went to Epstein's house, Carolyn testified she was greeted

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by a woman with an English accent who would arrange

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some of the one hundred or so sexualized massages she

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would give Epstein over the next two years. She ended

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up calling her Maxwell. Carolyn said, why, the prosecutor asked,

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because I couldn't exactly pronounce her first name correctly. Yeah,

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you and everybody else. When this all first started, I

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couldn't pronounce her name correctly either. Then again, I'm terrible

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at pronouncing names. I speak New York Italian, so sometimes

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the pronunciation is a little bit off. Shall we say

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Carolyn went on to become a drug addict, a prostitute,

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and a single mother. In court last week, she was

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face to face with Maxwell, who sat just across from her.

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At one point she railed at her, you broke my soul.

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Gut wrenching, folks. It really is gut wrenching and horrible,

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all of it. It makes me sad. And the fact

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that it's the most vulnerable amongst us every single time

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you turn around, is just another reason to want to

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see these people brought to justice. Now will they be?

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That's the definite question we're all asking. We'll have to

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see what kind of defense Maxwell and her team brings

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to the table starting Thursday, and if they bring all

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thirty five of those alleged witnesses to the box. Another

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thing that I doubt's going to happen, but we have

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to discuss, is will Maxwell take the stand herself? Very

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interesting question, no doubt about it. As you can see,

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I uploaded a couple of episodes for some context, Scott

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Borgerson episode, some other stuff, and I'll continue to do

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that throughout the day Today, same schedule as we've been

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on and tonight I'll be back with Morning the I mean,

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the evening wrap up, and we'll see where we're at

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and what we should expect come tomorrow. But for now, folks,

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that's going to do it. And if you'd like to

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contact me, you can do that at Bobby Kapucci at

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ProtonMail dot com. That's Bobby c ap U c CI

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at ProtonMail dot com. You can also find me on

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Twitter at Bobby Underscore c ap Ucci. The link that

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we discussed can be found in the description box. All right, folks,

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I'll be back later on. I hope that all of

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you have a great day. What's up everyone, and welcome

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back to the Epstein Chronicles. This morning, we talked a

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little bit about how there was no doubt about the

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mo of Jeffrey Epstein and Glene Maxwell and how they

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targeted the most vulnerable amongst us. It has never been

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in doubt for me, it has never been in doubt

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for anybody who's really taken a look at this case.

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And the fact that Maxwell's team was so insistent on

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trying to frame it as Maxwell not being so on

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from so called elite society should tell you everything that

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you need to know. But jurors aren't stupid. Right. They're

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not dumb people for the most part. They're average folks

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like you or I get up every day, strap on

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their work boots, and head on out to provide a

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living for their family. So they don't have any time

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for bs, right, they don't have any time for any

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nonsense or for attorneys attempting to gaslight them and try

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and frame it as if Maxwell and Epstein weren't living

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that jet setter life. Those are just the facts. That's

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what they were doing. And if that's all they were doing,

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then it would be perfectly fine. Right. You want to

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make a bunch of money and then go around and

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you know, do whatever it is you want to do.

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As long as it's with consenting adults, then hey, I'm

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all for it. I'm certainly not anybody's moral compass. What

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you do in your bedroom is your own business, as

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long as it's with people who consent. And that's where

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we run into the issue here, isn't it. You'll have

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Epstein and Maxwell's legal team saying that, oh, it's consensual,

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when in reality, these survivors are telling a different story

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and this isn't something that just came up out of

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the blue all of a sudden in twenty nineteen, twenty twenty.

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Now there's a big issue. There's been a big issue

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for a very long time, and multiple police departments were

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made aware of it, the FBI was made aware of it.

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Politicians knew what was up. You even had what's her

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name from redd at Ellen Powe talk about how everybody

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knew what they were up to. But yet they're all

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still going to parties with them, right Glenn Maxwell's still

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getting invited to Jeffrey Beso's cool little summer bash, isn't she?

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So when it comes to the halves versus the have nots,

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it's the age old argument, isn't it. And you look

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at Maxwell and Epstein and the people that they couldvort with,

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and it is the epitome of those who believe that

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they're better than us because they have a couple of

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bucks more than us. And for a long time, that

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story was enough, that narrative was enough. But that's not

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the case anymore. People are starting to understand that just

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because you have a bunch of money, just because you're

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a charitable guy, you have all of this, you know,

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charity work that you do around the world. This that

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the other thing that doesn't mean you aren't capable of

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great evil when the lights go off. I say it

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all the time, especially dealing with people in the Jeffrey

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00:30:57,359 --> 00:31:03,200
Epstein case, the Glain Max world. We're talking about a

474
00:31:03,319 --> 00:31:07,880
bunch of twisted people. I don't even really know what

475
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:11,680
else to call them, right, these people are twisted. You're

476
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,960
hanging out with somebody with like Jeffrey Epstein after the fact,

477
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:21,119
after the fact that he was a sex offender, after

478
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:24,319
he was a registered sex offender level three in New

479
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,759
York at that these people still thought it would be

480
00:31:26,759 --> 00:31:28,720
a good idea to go and hang out with them.

481
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:32,839
And it all comes back to money, right, money, power

482
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:36,680
and influence, and for the people that are trying to

483
00:31:37,359 --> 00:31:40,079
belly up to Epstein and Maxwell, the people trying to

484
00:31:40,119 --> 00:31:44,200
get into their world, That's what it was all about. Now.

485
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:49,359
For Epstein and Glenn Maxwell, sure it was about the financials,

486
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:53,680
but it was about more. And for them a lot

487
00:31:53,759 --> 00:31:56,079
of it had to do with the profiles they could

488
00:31:56,079 --> 00:32:00,279
build on people, the sort of compromut they can get

489
00:32:00,319 --> 00:32:04,519
on these people, and the age old honey trap. Right,

490
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:10,279
you got the old honeypot here, and you catch politicians

491
00:32:10,279 --> 00:32:14,160
and business leaders in compromising positions, and it's bad news

492
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,680
in the best of times. Now if you do that

493
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:22,480
with underage girls, talk about having a lot of power

494
00:32:22,519 --> 00:32:26,200
over somebody, And all you have to do is listen

495
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:30,279
to the survivors themselves, listen to people who worked there

496
00:32:30,359 --> 00:32:34,119
at Epstein's properties, and you'll know that the whole place

497
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:38,599
was wired up for video, the whole entire joint and

498
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:42,960
Jeffrey Epstein was recording everything. You think he wasn't recording

499
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:46,319
what was going on in those bedrooms. You think he

500
00:32:46,319 --> 00:32:49,440
didn't record who was walking in and out of those bedrooms.

501
00:32:50,079 --> 00:32:52,279
So what was he doing with all of that information?

502
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,160
Just sitting on it or was he using it to

503
00:32:55,200 --> 00:33:01,680
press people? Now that's where the Black Book comes in, right,

504
00:33:02,519 --> 00:33:07,200
you have a who's who of the so called elite

505
00:33:07,279 --> 00:33:10,519
society inside of this black book that have been that

506
00:33:10,559 --> 00:33:15,559
has been compiled by Maxwell for Epstein. And now, of

507
00:33:15,599 --> 00:33:18,720
course Judge Nathan doesn't want to have too much of

508
00:33:18,759 --> 00:33:23,119
it come out, And of course people will say, well,

509
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:26,559
it's not part of the scope of the case. Ah,

510
00:33:26,599 --> 00:33:31,200
that might be true, but there is a big transparency

511
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,279
issue for a very long time when it comes to

512
00:33:33,359 --> 00:33:39,000
Jeffrey Epstein, Gallaine Maxwell and their behaviors and activities. And

513
00:33:39,039 --> 00:33:41,680
I was hoping that Judge Nathan would continue on the

514
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,880
path that Judge Presca had set us on when it

515
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:48,279
comes to transparency, but that certainly hasn't been the case.

516
00:33:50,559 --> 00:33:53,240
And I think that it would go a long way

517
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,799
if we had more transparency, not only in just this

518
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:03,400
case itself, but in general. Now, obviously we can't know everything, right,

519
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:07,079
we can't know the full manty of what the prosecution

520
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:10,199
has or anything like that. But when things are going

521
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:14,280
to be this much of a hot button topic, you

522
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:17,039
should have the phone line activated so we can call

523
00:34:17,079 --> 00:34:21,639
in and listen. I don't think that's asking for too much,

524
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:25,360
especially during a pandemic. You know, I thought the whole

525
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,280
idea was to keep people outside of a big crowds.

526
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:32,519
Isn't that what they've been pitching to us? And leading

527
00:34:32,599 --> 00:34:35,400
up to this, there had been a phone line the

528
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:39,400
whole entire time, so every time there was a proceeding,

529
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,360
we were able to call in and listen live ourselves

530
00:34:42,599 --> 00:34:44,679
and not have to rely on people on the ground

531
00:34:45,119 --> 00:34:51,079
or a limp wristed legacy media. But that wasn't the

532
00:34:51,119 --> 00:34:55,119
case here. And now, believe me, I'm not talking any

533
00:34:55,199 --> 00:34:57,920
kind of Oh, this is a grand cover up or conspiracy.

534
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:02,960
It's just the federal government in general. They don't ever

535
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:07,239
want to provide proper transparency. I mean, when you have

536
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,079
to sue the government for a Freedom of Information Act,

537
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,400
that should tell you everything you need to know. We

538
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,719
shouldn't have to sue them for stuff like that. And

539
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,039
then what they'll do is they'll say, oh, this is

540
00:35:18,079 --> 00:35:22,760
an ongoing investigation, we can't give you that information. So

541
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,239
you're going to see a lot of that this week

542
00:35:25,519 --> 00:35:28,920
with the Black Book. And that's why I posted those

543
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:32,880
two uploads earlier, one really early this morning and then

544
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:37,280
one a little while ago from Mother Jones and them

545
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:43,400
calling up everybody in that little Black Book. So it

546
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,039
would be nice to see more transparency, right, It would

547
00:35:46,039 --> 00:35:49,760
be nice to see Judge Nathan provide us with a

548
00:35:50,159 --> 00:35:53,079
big look behind the curtain. But they're going to keep

549
00:35:53,079 --> 00:35:55,400
it to the scope and Judge Nathan's certainly going to

550
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,440
keep it to the scope of the people involved here.

551
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,760
Now again I don't agree with that, but that is

552
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:06,719
certainly what she's going to do. And anyone that's expecting

553
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:10,039
big bombshells to come from this, I would say that

554
00:36:10,079 --> 00:36:16,079
you might want to tamper down your expectations. Now that said,

555
00:36:17,159 --> 00:36:19,679
most of those names, that pretty much that whole black

556
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,920
book is available out there for you to check out yourself.

557
00:36:24,639 --> 00:36:28,599
And there are a lot of interesting names inside of

558
00:36:28,639 --> 00:36:32,280
that black book, no doubt about it. For me, it's

559
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,559
never been a well everybody who's in that Black Book

560
00:36:35,639 --> 00:36:38,039
is involved in the abuse either, that's never been my

561
00:36:38,599 --> 00:36:42,880
mymo For me, it just gives you a real look

562
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:46,039
behind the curtain, right of all of these loud mouth

563
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:50,960
ivory tower dwelling, pearl clutching big mouths who want to

564
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,280
tell you how to live your life every single day,

565
00:36:54,039 --> 00:36:56,960
while at the same time they're running around, cavorting and

566
00:36:57,039 --> 00:37:01,039
palaling around with Jeffrey Epstein and Glen Maxwell so much

567
00:37:01,119 --> 00:37:06,320
so that their home numbers, their work numbers, their spouse's numbers. Oh,

568
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,639
they're all in this black book. So for me, that's

569
00:37:09,679 --> 00:37:12,519
the most interesting part of it, right. And what it

570
00:37:12,559 --> 00:37:16,079
does is it helps you corroborate certain individuals who have

571
00:37:16,159 --> 00:37:21,679
been connected to Jeffrey Epstein, if you will, orgel Anne Maxwell,

572
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:26,920
connected to different periods of their activity together. So again,

573
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:30,679
it is one of those sorts of situations when you

574
00:37:30,679 --> 00:37:33,840
look at this case overall, where there are so many

575
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:39,840
different rabbit holes to fall down, so many different threads

576
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:43,440
to pull on, and all of them seem to just

577
00:37:43,639 --> 00:37:46,840
leave you with more questions than answers. And that is

578
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:50,280
exactly how it was all set up, right layer upon layer,

579
00:37:50,639 --> 00:37:55,880
like a typical criminal enterprise, with a lot of insulation

580
00:37:56,039 --> 00:37:59,880
between Epstein and Maxwell and all of this activity go

581
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:04,119
going on, and that black book, it really paints a

582
00:38:04,159 --> 00:38:07,079
picture of the people that they were hanging out with.

583
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:10,599
Right Again, it's one thing for people to say, oh, yeah,

584
00:38:10,639 --> 00:38:12,320
that's what they were doing. These are the people they

585
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,880
were hanging out with. And it's another thing for those

586
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:19,519
same people who were seen with Epstein or people that

587
00:38:19,639 --> 00:38:22,639
talked about hanging out with Epstein or Maxwell, now they're

588
00:38:22,639 --> 00:38:25,440
also in the book, and it's a little harder for

589
00:38:25,519 --> 00:38:29,079
them to start distancing themselves. Right, if he has your

590
00:38:29,119 --> 00:38:32,840
work phone number, your house phone number, you know, your

591
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:36,159
kid's school phone number, for God's sakes, right, pretty sure,

592
00:38:36,199 --> 00:38:39,440
you guys are a little bit closer than a lot

593
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:42,360
of these people have wanted to let on about Gleainne

594
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:48,119
Maxwell at Glenn Maxwell, Jeffrey Epstein and their interpersonal relationships.

595
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:51,800
So let's take a little look here at an article

596
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:57,119
from The Independent about this black book and the headline

597
00:38:57,199 --> 00:39:00,679
Glene Maxwell's Little Black Book to remain secret after judge

598
00:39:00,679 --> 00:39:04,920
warns against needless name dropping. And again, needless name dropping

599
00:39:05,159 --> 00:39:07,800
might be needless to you, Judge Nathan, but what about

600
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:13,920
the countless survivors out there? You think it's needless to them?

601
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:18,039
Glenn Maxwell's Little Black Book, containing the names and addresses

602
00:39:18,079 --> 00:39:21,800
of nearly two thousand world leaders, celebrities and alleged victims,

603
00:39:22,079 --> 00:39:25,480
will remain secret and not so much a secret right

604
00:39:25,559 --> 00:39:28,719
It's out there for public consumption. Like I said, Mother

605
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:34,480
Jones called them, one of the one of the journalists

606
00:39:34,519 --> 00:39:38,039
over there called them everybody in that book. And I

607
00:39:38,119 --> 00:39:42,400
posted those episodes a little bit earlier, so definitely check

608
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:45,119
those out. And you can actually find the Black Book yourself,

609
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:50,000
just do a Google search. MSS Maxwell's defense attorneys came

610
00:39:50,039 --> 00:39:53,159
to an agreement with prosecutors over the weekend not to

611
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:56,760
release the ninety seven page directory to the public. Judge

612
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,679
Alice and Nathan had previously said she wanted to avoid

613
00:39:59,679 --> 00:40:06,400
needles is name dropping at the trial. So I don't

614
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,679
even understand what that means needless name dropping? How is

615
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:11,719
it needless if they're in the book. They're in the

616
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:15,400
book now, I guess needless. What she means is as

617
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:19,239
far as moving the case forward, right, moving justice forward,

618
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:23,719
moving the indictment forward, or whatever it may be. Now

619
00:40:24,679 --> 00:40:26,960
to that, my counter would be, well, if this was

620
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,360
a Rico case, all of this would be relevant, wouldn't it.

621
00:40:29,679 --> 00:40:32,079
Every single one of these people who are mentioned in

622
00:40:32,119 --> 00:40:37,440
this book would be under suspicion as far as RICO counts.

623
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,440
Go go ahead and let your name be in a book,

624
00:40:41,039 --> 00:40:44,159
write an address book from a mafioso don or a

625
00:40:44,199 --> 00:40:48,440
cartel member, and let the Feds get their hands on

626
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:50,760
that book. And let's see if you're not part of

627
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:55,679
their RICO investigation, because you will be. That's how the

628
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:58,880
FEDS usually roll everything. Look, if they can hit you

629
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,920
with RICO, that's what they'll do. But they didn't do

630
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:06,079
it to Maxwell for some reason. I'll leave that up

631
00:41:06,079 --> 00:41:08,719
to all of you to discern. But for some reason

632
00:41:09,639 --> 00:41:11,719
they decided that, Ah, you know, we'll just hit r

633
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,519
Kelly with RICO. We'll hit Keith Rayin near you with RICO,

634
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:18,039
and we'll hit Alison Mack with RICO as well. But

635
00:41:18,159 --> 00:41:22,599
Glenn Maxwell, Nah, we're gonna let her slide through. But

636
00:41:22,679 --> 00:41:27,239
if they used RICO and they had a gigantic umbrella

637
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:30,840
here and not a small scope, because remember, under RICO,

638
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:34,000
they didn't just have to use crimes of a sexual nature.

639
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:37,320
They could go after you financially, you name it, every

640
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,599
which way you can imagine, they could go after you,

641
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:44,639
and they will. Now with the small scope here, it's

642
00:41:44,679 --> 00:41:47,559
a little bit different, right. They can't go after the financials.

643
00:41:47,559 --> 00:41:50,280
They didn't indict them on that. They didn't go after

644
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:55,400
any of the forensic information that is out there as

645
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:58,360
far as the financials go. You mean to tell me

646
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:02,559
that Jeffrey Epstein transferring thirty point seven million dollars to

647
00:42:02,599 --> 00:42:06,400
Gleanne Maxwell doesn't ring any alarm bells. I'm sure all

648
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:08,639
of those transactions were done on the up and up

649
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:12,159
through places like Deutsche Bank and JP Morgan. I mean,

650
00:42:12,199 --> 00:42:15,480
those people have never ever been slapped with financial fines,

651
00:42:15,519 --> 00:42:19,159
have they? Oh wait, they have been, to the tune

652
00:42:19,159 --> 00:42:22,480
of hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars. But what

653
00:42:22,519 --> 00:42:25,280
does it matter you slap them with a fine. They

654
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:28,719
don't care. They're not paying for it. None of these

655
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:32,199
people ever get indicted. But if that is the if

656
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,800
that's what you truly wanted to do. As far as

657
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:39,440
the federal government, that would have been the pathway forward. Instead,

658
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,920
they chose this small scope and for what for whatever

659
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:46,280
reason that may be, that's the way they decided to go.

660
00:42:48,119 --> 00:42:50,159
In this article they also talk about some of the

661
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:57,480
names that were mentioned, Prince Andrew, Bill Clinton, blah blah blah,

662
00:42:57,559 --> 00:43:03,199
and uh. Damien Williams, a US attorney to Judge Nathan wrote,

663
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:05,519
it is not being offered for the truth of the

664
00:43:05,559 --> 00:43:10,119
matters asserted therein and you may not consider for that purpose.

665
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:13,960
So Damian Williams is the head, the head guy down

666
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:17,519
there the SDNY, and you know he's the one really

667
00:43:17,559 --> 00:43:19,280
calling the shots. Right at the end of the day.

668
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:22,440
Let's remember this is a bureaucracy, and it's not just

669
00:43:22,559 --> 00:43:26,400
Maureen Comy or the team that's actually putting on the prosecution.

670
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:30,599
It goes up the ladder, right. So while I'm not

671
00:43:30,679 --> 00:43:34,280
a fan of Maureen Comy, it's the same deal as

672
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:37,119
it was with Acosta. While she plays a part, she's

673
00:43:37,159 --> 00:43:40,920
the one that's actually on the ground level here doing

674
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,559
the prosecution. It goes all the way up to Damian

675
00:43:43,599 --> 00:43:46,000
Williams and then really it falls in the lap of

676
00:43:46,039 --> 00:43:49,239
Merrick Garland, right, He's the Attorney General. At the end

677
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:52,559
of the day, you're the boss. Big responsibilities come with

678
00:43:52,639 --> 00:44:01,559
that job. They talk about how form Epstein butler Alfredo

679
00:44:01,679 --> 00:44:04,440
Rodriguez admitted to stealing the book as insurance and was

680
00:44:04,519 --> 00:44:06,840
jailed for trying to sell it to an undercover FBI

681
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:13,599
agent for fifty thousand dollars. The redacted version also published

682
00:44:13,639 --> 00:44:17,679
online by Gawker. So, look, the Black Book is obviously

683
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:19,840
going to come up, but it's not going to play

684
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,840
a huge part here, not going to be a huge

685
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:29,719
place of emphasis as far as moving this indictment forward.

686
00:44:31,119 --> 00:44:33,840
So for those of you who were expecting that, I've

687
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:36,719
cautioned for a very long time that I wouldn't expect

688
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:39,840
those kinds of bombshells out of this case. Once we

689
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,239
saw that it wasn't going to be Rico, once we

690
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,000
saw that they took that tool out of their toolbox,

691
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:49,920
then the scope of it was pretty much in a

692
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:53,440
clear picture, and we understood that they were going with

693
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:58,199
the accusations of these four survivors over the ten year period.

694
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:02,079
So anything outside of that GOP really wouldn't be relevant

695
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:13,039
to the wanted indictments. So I think that as far

696
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:17,280
as the Black Book goes, you can figure out who's

697
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:19,760
in that book and what they were up to as

698
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:23,280
far as their relationship with Jeffrey Epstein and Glene Maxwell.

699
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:26,280
You just got to do a little detective work, dive

700
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:29,960
in and start putting the pieces together. Because when you

701
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:33,159
go back and you look at some of the articles

702
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:36,679
that have been published throughout you know, the years, there

703
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:39,159
has been a lot of good articles published, a lot

704
00:45:39,199 --> 00:45:42,840
of good solid journalist work, but most of it has

705
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,360
come from outlets like Believe it or Not, the Daily

706
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:48,760
Mail or The Sun, and usually you know, you're a

707
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,119
look at that and you're like, oh shit, bigfoot coming in.

708
00:45:51,599 --> 00:45:54,760
But that's not been the case. And now when you

709
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:57,760
look at all of it in hindsight, a lot of

710
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:03,159
it was spot on. So that stuff is out there

711
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:05,599
as far as the Black Book goes. You're not going

712
00:46:05,679 --> 00:46:08,440
to need it to be put on blast here on

713
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:10,920
the trial for you to get a look at it.

714
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:13,880
But it would be nice, right, It would be nice

715
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:17,960
if this was a real, full encompassed trial that brought

716
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,960
in all of the co conspirators, you know, like they

717
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:25,320
did over at Nexium you figure that would be the

718
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:28,840
perfect blueprint for what went on here, But then you

719
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:35,920
get this situation where the scope is so small. So

720
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:39,599
it's going to be interesting to see which pieces and

721
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:44,440
parts of that book that they decide to introduce as

722
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:49,119
evidence or use or put up for public consumption during

723
00:46:49,159 --> 00:46:52,039
this defense period here. So we'll keep an eye on

724
00:46:52,079 --> 00:46:56,039
that for sure. But again, there needs to be more

725
00:46:56,079 --> 00:46:59,599
transparency in general when it comes to the justice system,

726
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:03,440
when it comes to situations such as this, with such

727
00:47:03,679 --> 00:47:08,079
a huge public interest, especially, I feel like it would

728
00:47:08,119 --> 00:47:11,239
alleviate a lot of the nonsense, a lot of the

729
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:15,360
conspiracy theory, and a lot of the you know, just

730
00:47:15,639 --> 00:47:19,440
living in fantasyland that you see from some people. But

731
00:47:19,559 --> 00:47:21,840
the federal government they can't get out of their own way.

732
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:24,920
They love it, They love all of the chaos. I think,

733
00:47:26,079 --> 00:47:28,000
then they can ride in and tell you who the

734
00:47:28,039 --> 00:47:32,000
stupid person is or who the conspiracy theorist is. Meanwhile,

735
00:47:32,039 --> 00:47:35,280
the government's contributing to all of it by not being transparent,

736
00:47:37,079 --> 00:47:41,440
and unfortunately I don't see that ending anytime soon. But

737
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:46,719
as we move closer to the defense taking the stand,

738
00:47:47,639 --> 00:47:54,599
it starts to come into more of a vivid picture

739
00:47:55,480 --> 00:48:00,199
that the defense's whole entire strategy this whole entire time

740
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:04,760
has been to try and keep things out of the public,

741
00:48:05,199 --> 00:48:07,960
I to try and keep things out as evidence and

742
00:48:08,159 --> 00:48:11,840
at the same time launching their own brutal assaults on

743
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:19,440
the character of these witnesses. So we'll see what happens

744
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:22,320
on Thursday, we'll see what happens on Friday, and we'll

745
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:26,679
certainly be paying attention to what sort of information they

746
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:31,280
decide to use from this black book. All right, everybody,

747
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:33,960
I will be back tomorrow morning. We'll start the process

748
00:48:34,119 --> 00:48:37,800
all over again, thankfully, just one more day of the recess,

749
00:48:38,159 --> 00:48:39,880
and then we can get back to the meat and

750
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:42,840
potatoes of all of this as usual. I'll have some

751
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:47,840
more context episodes uploaded, and away we'll go. So I

752
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:50,119
hope that all of you have a great night, and

753
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:53,920
I will certainly talk to all of you tomorrow. If

754
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:55,719
you'd like to contact me, you can do that at

755
00:48:55,760 --> 00:49:00,880
Bobby Kapucci at ProtonMail dot com. That's bobbu y c

756
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:04,119
A p U C c I at ProtonMail dot com.

757
00:49:04,599 --> 00:49:07,159
You can also find me on Twitter at b O

758
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:10,960
b b U y underscore c A p U C

759
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:13,920
C I. All Right, everybody until later,