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Make 20 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:39,239 sure to subscribe or if you download your podcast, and 21 00:01:39,439 --> 00:01:42,920 of course to the premium version of our website as well. 22 00:01:43,439 --> 00:01:48,120 Our guest today is Ohio Representative Jim Jordan, chairman of 23 00:01:48,159 --> 00:01:53,120 the House Judiciary Committee. That committee has done exceptional work, 24 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:56,159 along with its counterpart in the Senate, in exposing the 25 00:01:56,200 --> 00:02:00,519 corruption of the last administration. And that's a mountain of work. Jim, 26 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:03,439 thanks you, thank you so much for joining us with you. Matt, 27 00:02:03,439 --> 00:02:06,400 thanks for having you well, thank you. I want to 28 00:02:06,439 --> 00:02:09,120 start first. You joined us fresh off of a hearing. 29 00:02:09,159 --> 00:02:10,919 Can you tell us what was going on? 30 00:02:11,039 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 2: Came, I came, came from the floor. We went on 31 00:02:13,159 --> 00:02:16,400 a number of promoting bills that are that I think good. 32 00:02:16,719 --> 00:02:19,120 You know you want you want growth in your economy. 33 00:02:19,159 --> 00:02:22,120 You cut taxes and you let families and business owners 34 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:23,960 and Americans keep more of their money. One of the 35 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,639 key differences between the parties is Republicans believing empowering people 36 00:02:27,719 --> 00:02:31,400 and families. Democrats want to empower government, so cutting taxes 37 00:02:31,479 --> 00:02:34,879 and producing the regulatory burden on job creators and and 38 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:37,680 uh and small businesses. So we had some bills in 39 00:02:37,719 --> 00:02:39,879 the Florida Day that we're in that ladder category, which 40 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:42,719 is a good thing to do. You put those things together, 41 00:02:43,719 --> 00:02:47,240 you start getting economic growth. So, uh, that was that 42 00:02:47,319 --> 00:02:49,000 was what was on the floor today. But we have 43 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:51,159 been busy in committee with a number of different hearings, 44 00:02:51,159 --> 00:02:53,800 and of course we had a deposition with jas Smith 45 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:54,479 on yesterday. 46 00:02:54,719 --> 00:02:56,039 Speaker 1: I want to get to that in just a moment, 47 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:58,879 but let's let's stay on the economy for a moment. 48 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:03,400 President Trump talk to Americans this week, and you know 49 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:07,479 what was talking about. Hey, listen, we're doing some things 50 00:03:07,479 --> 00:03:11,879 to get the turned around what we experienced in four 51 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:14,319 years in the Biden administration. So you've got a mountain 52 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:17,719 to climb there and you will start to reap the 53 00:03:17,759 --> 00:03:21,199 benefits of the big beautiful Bill and these other things. 54 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:25,199 Of course, we saw the consumer price index at two 55 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:29,639 point seven percent in the last month. That is obviously 56 00:03:29,719 --> 00:03:34,680 significantly lower than it was, but still affordability is the catchword. 57 00:03:34,759 --> 00:03:38,960 And Democrats, interestingly enough, are pounding this term after they 58 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:44,680 gave us inflation busting, our inflation increasing bills like the 59 00:03:44,719 --> 00:03:46,840 ill named Inflation Reduction Bill. 60 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:49,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, Democrats, we created this problem, but oh we're going 61 00:03:49,719 --> 00:03:51,439 to We're also going to be the ones that are 62 00:03:51,599 --> 00:03:53,400 going to talk about how someone else did and how 63 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:55,280 we can fix it. Of course, if they get power, 64 00:03:55,319 --> 00:03:56,840 they'll just make it worse, which is what they do 65 00:03:56,919 --> 00:04:00,840 all the time. No, I do think A really described it. 66 00:04:00,879 --> 00:04:04,879 Because the inflation, the pricing preasing was so high Underbidy. 67 00:04:04,919 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 3: I mean, the curve is like this. 68 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:08,919 Speaker 2: President Trump has brought that and Republicans have brought that 69 00:04:09,039 --> 00:04:12,159 way down, but it's still way too high. 70 00:04:12,439 --> 00:04:13,919 Speaker 3: So you know, people still. 71 00:04:13,719 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 2: Feel it when they go purchase things that they need 72 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:18,720 for their family. But I do think the Big Beautiful 73 00:04:18,759 --> 00:04:21,519 Bill is good legislation. I always tell folks, you know, 74 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,240 it's a good bill because the left hates it. And 75 00:04:24,319 --> 00:04:26,199 as I was saying earlier, they hated it because it 76 00:04:26,199 --> 00:04:30,800 actually empowers people and families, not government. And so you know, 77 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:33,360 I tell people in the largest tax cut in American history, 78 00:04:33,439 --> 00:04:36,279 largest investment in border security in American history. First time 79 00:04:36,319 --> 00:04:38,759 we put school choice, which is totally pro family, let 80 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:41,560 moms dads pick where their son or daughter goes to school. 81 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:44,480 Gives a tax incentive for doing that, and put that 82 00:04:44,519 --> 00:04:46,879 in the tax code. And then, of course the welfare 83 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:50,439 reform component that was in the bill, able bodied adults. 84 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:51,959 Speaker 3: Guess what from. 85 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:53,399 Speaker 2: Now on, if you're gonna get tax payer money, you're 86 00:04:53,399 --> 00:04:55,879 gonna have to work good for everybody, good for the economy, 87 00:04:55,879 --> 00:04:57,839 good for taxpayers, good for them. 88 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 3: So all that was in the was in the bill. 89 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:03,439 Speaker 2: But yeah, Democrats are gonna, they're gonna they're gonna say 90 00:05:03,439 --> 00:05:06,920 the other. But I think I think the president's speech 91 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:09,439 was right on target. I mean I always, I always say, 92 00:05:09,439 --> 00:05:13,000 we make this job too complicated. It's pretty simple. What 93 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:15,040 did you tell the voters you were going to do 94 00:05:15,079 --> 00:05:17,120 when you ran for the job. If you get elected, 95 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:22,040 go do what you said. Nobody, nobody does that better 96 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:24,839 than President Trump. He said he cut tacks as he did. 97 00:05:24,879 --> 00:05:27,839 He said he secured the border he did in record time. 98 00:05:28,079 --> 00:05:29,800 He said he get men out of women's sports. 99 00:05:29,879 --> 00:05:31,759 Speaker 3: He did. He said he would make sure I ran 100 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:34,800 didn't get nuclear capability. He did. He said he'd bring 101 00:05:34,879 --> 00:05:37,079 the hostages back to Israel. He did. 102 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:40,319 Speaker 2: He said he would increase recruitment and enlistment in our military. 103 00:05:40,759 --> 00:05:42,800 He did, and a bunch of other things I can't 104 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,600 think of right now. But so to me, it's been 105 00:05:45,639 --> 00:05:48,399 an amazing year. But of course the Democrats are going 106 00:05:48,439 --> 00:05:50,920 to talk about affordability, and oh, how we need to 107 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:54,839 prop up Obamacare even more, which everyone knows Obamacare was 108 00:05:55,199 --> 00:05:56,160 such a charade. 109 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:58,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, that is the height of hypocrisy, isn't it. I 110 00:05:58,199 --> 00:06:02,160 mean they are fighting like hell right now to hold 111 00:06:02,199 --> 00:06:07,800 on to these pandemic era subsidies, Obamacare subsidies in a 112 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:14,680 fraud filled Obamacare system that was doomed from the start. 113 00:06:14,759 --> 00:06:19,000 Where do you The House this week passed legislation Republican 114 00:06:19,079 --> 00:06:23,920 legislation looking to attack the healthcare problem in America, healthcare 115 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:25,879 insurance problem in America. Where do you think that's going 116 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:27,759 to go in the Senate? We're going to see passage 117 00:06:27,759 --> 00:06:29,199 of that hopefully. 118 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 2: I mean, what we don't want to do is just 119 00:06:31,639 --> 00:06:39,319 keep extending these already expanded subsidies for Obamacare to insurance companies. 120 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 3: Because everyone knows economics one oh one. 121 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 2: Substies increase price, choice and competition lower price. So if 122 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,199 you have to do the subsidies, you can't do that 123 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:51,839 by itself, because that'll just exacerbate the problem. What you 124 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:53,839 got to do is choice and competition, which is what 125 00:06:53,879 --> 00:06:57,040 we passed this week. Health savings accounts, association, health plans, 126 00:06:57,079 --> 00:07:00,759 those types of things that's that's what has to happen. 127 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,240 And frankly, I think we need to tell the tell 128 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:06,079 the American people. You know, Republicans tell the truth and 129 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:08,680 fix things. Democrats tend to do the opposite. So let's 130 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:11,600 tell them the truth. When they passed Obamacare, they said, 131 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:14,040 you like your plan, you can keep your plan, like 132 00:07:14,079 --> 00:07:17,639 your doctor, keep your doctor. Premiums will go down. They 133 00:07:17,639 --> 00:07:19,879 were zero for three, So we just need to remind 134 00:07:19,959 --> 00:07:24,639 voters that doesn't work. Obamacare doesn't work, and continuing the 135 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:28,600 subseason is not going to lower premiums. May help that 136 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:31,519 small percentage of the population who are on those subsidies 137 00:07:31,519 --> 00:07:34,079 may help them a little bit, but it won't help 138 00:07:34,319 --> 00:07:38,199 overall premiums come down. So let's let's actually address the problem, 139 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:41,199 the real problem with high prices and healthcare. And then 140 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:42,639 if we do all that and we have to do 141 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:45,240 something temporary on the subsetase, that's a different question. But 142 00:07:45,639 --> 00:07:49,199 to just do the substas makes absolutely no sense. 143 00:07:49,839 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: The definition of insanity right there. You alluded to it 144 00:07:53,519 --> 00:07:58,560 before a very important Congressional committee hearing. Jack Smith, former 145 00:07:58,639 --> 00:08:03,319 special counsel who presided over I think one of the 146 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:07,399 clearest examples of the weaponization of Justice. You on the 147 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:11,319 Judiciary Committee, of course, have been looking into this Arctic frost. 148 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:14,560 Look how much has come out of that of late. Thankfully, 149 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:16,920 we would not have had that information had you folks 150 00:08:16,959 --> 00:08:20,560 not been in control of that committee as well as 151 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:25,040 in the Senate. All of that said, this is what 152 00:08:25,199 --> 00:08:27,800 NBC News reported this week, and of course you're going 153 00:08:27,839 --> 00:08:30,000 to get the NBC News version. You get what you 154 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,720 get with NBC. Of course, former Special counsel Jack Smith 155 00:08:34,759 --> 00:08:38,080 told a Congressional committee Wednesday that his team found proof 156 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:42,480 beyond a reasonable doubt the President Donald Trump engaged in 157 00:08:42,519 --> 00:08:47,519 a criminal scheme to overturn the results of the twenty 158 00:08:47,639 --> 00:08:51,000 twenty election. According to parts of the opening statement obtained 159 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:55,519 by NBC News, NBC News knows only so much. What's 160 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:56,559 the real story here? 161 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 2: Well, Jack Smith might think that, but that's different than 162 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:02,000 a jury appeers in the court of law. So you know, 163 00:09:02,039 --> 00:09:03,919 he can jump to the conclusion, but that's not how 164 00:09:03,919 --> 00:09:05,519 it works in the American justice systems. 165 00:09:05,519 --> 00:09:07,039 Speaker 3: He can say whatevery darnwell wants. 166 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:10,159 Speaker 2: What I know is nothing in that seven hour deposition 167 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:14,679 yesterday changed my belief that this was largely political, you know, 168 00:09:14,799 --> 00:09:16,679 kind of in the in the vein of Fannie Willis, 169 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:19,879 Alvin Bragg and all this other stuff, and you know 170 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:24,120 Jim Comey and Crossfire Hurricane when they said President Trump 171 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:27,039 was somehow coordinating and coluding with the Russians during the case, 172 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:31,159 like crazy stuff, Robert Muller, and so nothing changed my 173 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:34,600 perspective on from mister Smith on that seven hours, We've 174 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:38,039 already deposed three of his deputies. Two of them took 175 00:09:38,039 --> 00:09:41,919 the fifth each seventy one and seventy three times respectively. 176 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:44,000 One of those individuals he took the fifth that many times. 177 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:47,639 We actually referred to the Justice Department for obstruction of 178 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:48,559 our investigation. 179 00:09:48,919 --> 00:09:50,679 Speaker 3: We don't do that very often. I mean, it's got 180 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:51,279 to be warranted. 181 00:09:51,279 --> 00:09:53,639 Speaker 2: And we sent mister Wyndham, We sent that to the 182 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:57,600 Justice Department for one of his top deputies. So look, 183 00:09:57,639 --> 00:09:59,879 I can't get into the details until we actually review 184 00:09:59,879 --> 00:10:03,679 the transcript, and that transcript has made public. But one 185 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:06,120 of the things I can talk about, because we all 186 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:08,519 know this has been out in the public, is they 187 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:12,919 subpoenaed the phone records, the toll records of the Speaker 188 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:16,799 of the House after he became speaker, like a week 189 00:10:16,799 --> 00:10:19,720 and a half after he becomes Speaker Kevin McCarthy, they 190 00:10:19,759 --> 00:10:23,360 subpoena his toll records for two years prior, and they 191 00:10:23,399 --> 00:10:25,919 do it for a two month period of time. And 192 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:29,120 so for two months from election day twenty twenty until 193 00:10:29,159 --> 00:10:33,000 January seventh, twenty twenty one, they know every call. They 194 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:36,080 know who Kevin McCarthy called, who called him, how long 195 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:40,039 it lasted, when it took place, and if Kevin McCarthy 196 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:42,600 initiated the call, they know where he was at when 197 00:10:42,639 --> 00:10:43,039 he did. 198 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:43,159 Speaker 3: So. 199 00:10:43,639 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 2: Now you talk about patterning someone's life, looking at who 200 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:50,799 they're talking to before key votes, totally infringing on separation 201 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:53,559 of powers in the Speecher debate clause in the Constitution 202 00:10:53,639 --> 00:10:55,440 that gives us the ability to do our jobs and 203 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:59,080 communicate with people. And then they had the goal to 204 00:10:59,159 --> 00:11:03,159 tell the judge, Hey, judge, don't let at and t 205 00:11:03,159 --> 00:11:06,919 tell its customer, the guy who speakure the House number 206 00:11:06,919 --> 00:11:10,559 two in line of the President, that we're getting his information. 207 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 3: You got to be kidding me. So that's that's the 208 00:11:13,279 --> 00:11:15,320 kind of stuff that was going on in this investigation. 209 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's insane. I mean, take a look at 210 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:21,879 what they did to a number of Republican senators. I mean, 211 00:11:21,919 --> 00:11:24,799 I've talked to a few of them, and you can't 212 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:28,440 help but feel violated your privacy, And of course it 213 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:32,399 gets to the heart of, you know, the abuses of 214 00:11:32,879 --> 00:11:37,480 the executive branch under auto pen. President Joe Biden, let 215 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:39,600 me ask let me ask you this. You talked about 216 00:11:41,879 --> 00:11:47,519 those who took the fifth in these hearings multiple multiple times, 217 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:53,679 referring them to the Justice Department. Will we see eventually 218 00:11:53,759 --> 00:11:59,000 a you know, Peter Navarro situation, Steve Bannon? I mean, 219 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:02,679 those guys were held in contempt of Congress and they 220 00:12:02,759 --> 00:12:06,399 had to go to prison for that. Are we going 221 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:09,960 to see that from these guys who continue to obstruct 222 00:12:10,399 --> 00:12:11,240 your investigation. 223 00:12:11,759 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 2: That'll be up to the That'll be up to the 224 00:12:13,159 --> 00:12:15,399 Justice Department if they decide to indict and prosecute for 225 00:12:15,399 --> 00:12:17,879 the people we preferred, we've preferred to people mister Wyndham 226 00:12:17,879 --> 00:12:22,879 in this investigation, and then John Brennan, for we think 227 00:12:22,919 --> 00:12:27,360 he completely lied to us in a deposition from last 228 00:12:27,399 --> 00:12:31,840 Congress on the whole dossier issue from from several years ago. 229 00:12:32,279 --> 00:12:34,000 But we were actually we were actually interviewing them on 230 00:12:34,039 --> 00:12:36,799 a different subject, but we got into the dossier and 231 00:12:36,799 --> 00:12:38,919 we think he clearly lied particularly in light of what 232 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:43,200 Tulsea Gabbard released this summer about the Intelligence Community assessment, 233 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:45,440 this report that was put out. So that's up to 234 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:47,639 the Justice Department if they prosecute, and then it'll be 235 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:51,440 up to a jury, you know, a court if they 236 00:12:51,919 --> 00:12:55,559 if they in fact are found guilty, and then serving 237 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:58,360 me whatever their sentence may be, whatever their penalty may be. 238 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:01,600 But what we've done is get the facts out there, 239 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:05,320 and where appropriate, where warranted, we will do a referral 240 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:06,279 to the Justice Department. 241 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:09,679 Speaker 1: You've been at this for a long time, and over 242 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:11,879 the last the better part of the last ten years, 243 00:13:11,919 --> 00:13:16,120 we have seen the democrats and the abuses and the 244 00:13:16,159 --> 00:13:21,320 excesses of power. What strikes you most about what we 245 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:26,639 have learned, thankfully because of Toulsi Gabbard and the information released. 246 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 2: Well, the general takeaway is I always say it's the 247 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:33,320 one thing we always get wrong when we start these investigations. 248 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:34,639 Speaker 3: It's that it's. 249 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 2: Always worse than we thought every single time. Yeah, I mean, 250 00:13:40,039 --> 00:13:41,919 go back, go back when we first learned Now this 251 00:13:41,919 --> 00:13:44,120 would be probably twelve years ago, I guess when we 252 00:13:44,159 --> 00:13:46,840 first learned about the targeting of conservative groups by the IRS, 253 00:13:46,919 --> 00:13:48,639 it was much worse than we thought, right, And then 254 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:50,559 you dig into the big I've been on just about 255 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:53,399 every major investigation, every select committee seemed like the big 256 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:54,600 Gazi Select Committee. 257 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 3: What happened there? 258 00:13:55,399 --> 00:13:57,559 Speaker 2: How they just didn't come to the aid of our people, 259 00:13:57,600 --> 00:13:59,840 how they knew they were in just a terrible situation. 260 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:05,039 Then you get into the whole crossfire hurricane, and you 261 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:08,519 know somehow that that the Clinton campaign paid the law 262 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:12,159 firm Perkinsculley, who hired the Fusion GPS public relations firm, 263 00:14:12,159 --> 00:14:15,200 who hired a foreigner Christopher Steele, who wrote a dossier 264 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:19,879 which was complete garbage, and yet our FBI Jim Comey, 265 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,200 uses it as the basis to get a warrant to 266 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:26,159 spy on the other party, her opponent's political campaign you 267 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:29,080 can't make. And then the Muller investigation, then impeachment one, 268 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:33,000 impeachment two, Fannie Willis, Alvin Bragg raid his home, Jack Smith, like, 269 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:36,240 it is always worse than we thought. So that is 270 00:14:36,279 --> 00:14:38,679 the one one takeaway I've learned, I guess now and like, 271 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:40,919 as you point out, in a decade of doing oversight 272 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:44,200 work in the Congress, it's always worse. 273 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:47,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, speaking of Jack Smith, we find out this 274 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:52,399 week that, you know, they there were people surrounding him 275 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:55,440 who said, I don't think we have the authority to 276 00:14:55,519 --> 00:14:59,679 do this, and apparently the Special Council said, I don't 277 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:00,720 give it. Yeah, let's go. 278 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 3: Yeah they're aggressive. Yeah, good, good point. 279 00:15:04,159 --> 00:15:07,559 Speaker 2: We sort of knew this because we had deposed mister 280 00:15:07,639 --> 00:15:09,639 Dan Twano, who was the head of the Washington Field 281 00:15:09,639 --> 00:15:12,879 Office of the FBI, and in his deposition said he 282 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:15,879 pushed back, I mean we did we did this last Congress. 283 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:19,399 He said, you know, look, do we really want to 284 00:15:19,639 --> 00:15:22,919 just go do this search, this raid of presidents of 285 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:23,879 President Trump's home? 286 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 3: And then they go, yeah, we got to do it. 287 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:27,679 Speaker 2: He said, well, you know, maybe we should use the 288 00:15:27,759 --> 00:15:29,960 Miami Field office to kind of orchestrate this. 289 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 3: Let them work down there. 290 00:15:31,679 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 2: They know the folks that they go, no, no, no, it's 291 00:15:33,399 --> 00:15:34,919 going to be the Washington Field office. He said, well, 292 00:15:34,919 --> 00:15:37,799 if we're going to do this raid, this search, why 293 00:15:37,799 --> 00:15:39,919 don't we let President trump lawyers. 294 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 3: Know first that we're coming and we want to work 295 00:15:42,159 --> 00:15:42,480 with them. 296 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 2: No, how about when we get there, we at least 297 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:48,759 call his lawyer and we can go through the home together. No, 298 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:52,039 said no to all that, and they just they just 299 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:54,519 show up bus, go in and there. You know, we 300 00:15:54,879 --> 00:15:56,399 know what it was like. They went through every room 301 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:58,639 in the house and it was ridiculous. 302 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: Just absolute corruption. One fine thing. I know you have 303 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:03,080 to get going around a tight schedule here. I really 304 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:07,320 do appreciate your time. Looking ahead to twenty twenty six, 305 00:16:08,679 --> 00:16:14,240 I hope that conservatives in America understand what is at stake. 306 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:19,159 Do you think they do? Because Trump is not on 307 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:23,000 the ballot, but certainly his policies are on the ballot 308 00:16:23,039 --> 00:16:24,200 in twenty twenty six. 309 00:16:24,919 --> 00:16:25,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, they are. 310 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:28,519 Speaker 2: And I think President Trump is going to really help 311 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:31,360 us by You're right, he's on the top of the ticket, 312 00:16:31,399 --> 00:16:33,200 so he's a have to drive turnout, particularly in these 313 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:34,960 tough districts, which. 314 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 3: I think he'll do. 315 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:36,639 Speaker 2: You know, he gets on the phone, he goes does 316 00:16:36,679 --> 00:16:39,720 events in these districts. He's teletown halls. That'll be very helpful. 317 00:16:39,759 --> 00:16:41,679 I think the big beautiful bills we talked about earlier 318 00:16:41,679 --> 00:16:44,600 will kick in. I think we're recruiting good candidates in 319 00:16:44,639 --> 00:16:47,159 these key races. We've got to replace some people who 320 00:16:47,159 --> 00:16:49,120 are running for higher office and have good candidates there. 321 00:16:49,159 --> 00:16:51,480 I think we were doing that. Matt van Apps like 322 00:16:51,519 --> 00:16:55,159 we won this special in Tennessee. Great candidate. And then finally, 323 00:16:55,159 --> 00:16:58,279 I do think we still need to remind voters how 324 00:16:58,279 --> 00:17:01,679 crazy the left is. Say not all Democrats are crazy, 325 00:17:01,679 --> 00:17:03,440 but the left that controls their party is. 326 00:17:04,079 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 3: Think about it. 327 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 2: The left as it's crazy not to have a border. 328 00:17:07,799 --> 00:17:09,759 It is crazy to say men to compete against women 329 00:17:09,799 --> 00:17:12,680 in sports, it is. It is crazy to just keep 330 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:14,880 raising taxes. It is crazy to say everyone's got to 331 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:16,519 have an electric car and you can't have it like 332 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:18,119 you could just keep going down the list. 333 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 3: It is the policy. 334 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:24,400 Speaker 2: Always point out it's crazy to let a Chinese by 335 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:27,519 balloon fly clear across the country, right. 336 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:28,880 Speaker 3: And then shoot it down. 337 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:31,880 Speaker 2: I don't know, I think anyone with people I represent 338 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:33,519 with before I went across the country. 339 00:17:33,559 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 3: So I think we need to point those things out 340 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:35,559 as well. 341 00:17:36,799 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 1: Absolutely, it'll be interesting these times, certainly are. We'll see 342 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:44,359 what lies ahead. Always appreciate your time, sir, I know 343 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:47,000 you're extremely busy, and thank you for taking the time. 344 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:48,839 Speaker 3: Thank you, Mary, Christmas. 345 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:52,640 Speaker 1: Merry Christmas to you. Thanks to my guest today, Ohio 346 00:17:52,839 --> 00:17:57,799 US Representative Jim Jordan. He is the chairman of the 347 00:17:57,839 --> 00:18:01,319 Judiciary Committee, the House Judiciary Committee that's been doing such 348 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:03,920 great work at exposing the corruption of the last four 349 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:05,319 years of the Biden administration. 350 00:18:08,799 --> 00:18:12,160 Speaker 4: Could this latest jobs report be an election decider? Who 351 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:15,079 watched Out on Wall Street podcast with Chris Markowski. Every 352 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:17,920 day Chris helps unpack the connection between politics and the 353 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:20,680 economy and how it affects your wallet. New jobs reports 354 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:24,680 show that numbers fell way below expectations and small businesses 355 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:27,319 are laying people off. The real job Edge and his 356 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:29,960 companies that are less than five years old. Whether it's 357 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:32,200 happening in DC or down on Wall Street, it's affecting 358 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:32,880 you financially. 359 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 3: Be informed. 360 00:18:33,559 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 4: Check out the Watch on Wall Street podcast with Chris 361 00:18:35,759 --> 00:18:39,720 Markowski on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. 362 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:45,880 Speaker 1: Our guest now is US Senator Ron Johnson, the senior 363 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:50,799 Senator from the great state of Wisconsin, the Badger State. 364 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:56,319 As we are talking this afternoon, the Senator, along with 365 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:59,720 his colleagues are well playing the hurry up and wait 366 00:18:59,799 --> 00:19:03,599 game in terms of waiting for the next vote on 367 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:05,799 the floor. Good afternoon, their thanks so much for joining 368 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:07,160 us in the Federalist Radio Hour. 369 00:19:07,559 --> 00:19:08,519 Speaker 5: Well, Matt, I hope you do. 370 00:19:08,559 --> 00:19:12,319 Speaker 1: And well, yeah, speaking of how you're doing, how are 371 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:15,480 you doing again. I know that as you get to 372 00:19:15,519 --> 00:19:19,039 the end here before the break, there's a lot of 373 00:19:19,279 --> 00:19:22,000 back and forth and a lot of sitting still. Right. 374 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 5: Well, they want to pass through the Senate the five bill. 375 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:32,839 They call it minibus. I call it megabus. So I 376 00:19:33,519 --> 00:19:36,640 finally lifted my hold because I got the assurances that 377 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:40,000 will do everything we can to shut past the Shutdown 378 00:19:40,039 --> 00:19:43,960 Fairness Act, which again, the only reason anybody could oppose 379 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:48,559 that is if they want to continue to hold federal 380 00:19:48,559 --> 00:19:54,519 employees and the American public hostage in their dysfunctional games. 381 00:19:53,559 --> 00:19:59,839 So again I got assurances with the credible pass for 382 00:20:00,799 --> 00:20:03,960 path for passing that. So I'll love to my hold. 383 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:06,839 But now we're kind of working through the whole process 384 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:10,279 of which amendment is going to be loud and it's 385 00:20:10,559 --> 00:20:13,519 always it's always the same old thing. This this, this 386 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:15,039 place is so dysfunctional. 387 00:20:15,599 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of lumps in that gravy. 388 00:20:17,799 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 5: Yeah. 389 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 1: No, just on a finer point on that, you have 390 00:20:20,759 --> 00:20:22,559 been working on this thing and talking about it for 391 00:20:22,599 --> 00:20:25,319 a long time, how do you feel about it eventually 392 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:29,880 looking at least now looking like you could get passage here? 393 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:33,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think so. We know, because of the shutdown, 394 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:36,559 we had two votes on the Shutdown Fairness Act. And again, 395 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:39,000 all this does it just it pays everybody. They're going 396 00:20:39,039 --> 00:20:42,240 to get paid eventually anyway, so why not pay them 397 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:45,880 on time, make them come into work. Okay, they can 398 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,599 clean their desks, they can do things. Maybe they're not 399 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:52,480 able to, you know, send out welfare checks to some 400 00:20:52,519 --> 00:20:57,880 of the fraudulent ineligible recipients, but some alloys. Yeah, but 401 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:01,759 they can still work. So again, there's no reason not 402 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:05,119 to have this in law. From my standpoint that the 403 00:21:05,559 --> 00:21:08,480 better bill, the ultimate bill, be the Eliminated Shutdown Act, 404 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:13,200 but that has greater resistance to it because there are 405 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:16,240 a lot of people in washingtonc Who actually like this pain. 406 00:21:16,319 --> 00:21:19,720 They want to use federal employees. They want to use 407 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:25,680 the American public as pawns for leverage in passing appropriation 408 00:21:25,759 --> 00:21:28,640 bills that we can't afford. So that's that is the 409 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,039 well honed process. I mean, it's just functional, but it's 410 00:21:31,039 --> 00:21:33,160 a well honed process. That's one of the reasons we're 411 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:36,400 thirty eight trillion dollars in debt. So I'm trying to 412 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:41,599 just at least let's take that gamesmanship off the table here. 413 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:44,799 Let's not use these people's pawds anymore. It's sick, big 414 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:49,519 of debt. You have been trying for a very long 415 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,920 time to get your colleagues to consider the fact that 416 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:57,799 thirty eight trillion dollars in debt is not sustainable. I 417 00:21:57,839 --> 00:21:59,799 don't know if you call it the report out from 418 00:22:00,039 --> 00:22:02,279 open the books. We had a piece on it at 419 00:22:02,279 --> 00:22:05,960 the Federalist this week, but you know it should come 420 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:09,319 as no surprise, but it still should, I think be 421 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:12,720 appalling and is appalling to most Americans. If you look 422 00:22:12,759 --> 00:22:16,119 at debt, the nation's debt over the last one hundred 423 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:19,200 plus years, beginning with Woodrow Wilson in World War One, 424 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:27,960 the American individual, each man, woman, and child now is paying. 425 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 1: Just about what is it. A family of four is 426 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:35,440 somewhere in the neighborhood of eighty plus thousand dollars. That's 427 00:22:35,519 --> 00:22:39,880 the family of four's share of debt, and that debt 428 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:47,279 load has increased ten thousand percent since what nineteen fifteen? 429 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:51,599 Something like that. Again, are we going to get anybody 430 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:55,279 serious about really looking at the root cause of the 431 00:22:55,319 --> 00:22:56,400 high cost of living? 432 00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:57,559 Speaker 3: Well? 433 00:22:57,559 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 5: Again, there's many ways of describing this that are all 434 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:05,160 eye popping, but unfortunately here in Washington and I would 435 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,519 say in the general public too. Most people are just 436 00:23:07,519 --> 00:23:11,000 whistened by the graveyard, and we then in we've had 437 00:23:11,039 --> 00:23:16,720 massive deskice now for years, decades. What we had in 438 00:23:16,759 --> 00:23:19,599 the beginning of this century pales in comparison to what 439 00:23:19,599 --> 00:23:23,160 we're looking at now. We're order magnitude higher than we 440 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,200 were at the turn of the century. Well, actually we 441 00:23:25,279 --> 00:23:29,759 had surpluses at the very turn of the century. But 442 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:34,519 because it hasn't blown up on our face yet, what 443 00:23:34,599 --> 00:23:37,079 I've been describing is a we've had a chronic debt 444 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,720 crisis for decades. It's called the devaluation of the dollar. 445 00:23:40,559 --> 00:23:43,000 You probably heard me quote these figures. But a dollar 446 00:23:43,039 --> 00:23:45,680 we held in nineteen ninety eight it was worth fifty 447 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:49,400 one cents. The dollar you held just eleven years ago 448 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,839 in twenty fourteen, it is worth seventy four cents, and 449 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,400 a dollar you held in twenty nineteen before the pandemic's 450 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,759 worth eighty cents. That's why you can't afford things now. 451 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:02,160 There's other lack of permitting, the war and fossil fuels 452 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:05,240 that have driven up some commodity price, that kind of stuff, 453 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,680 and with possibility to bring those down quite honestly, under Trump, drill, 454 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:12,039 baby drill. We brought gasing prices down. You know, we 455 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:15,240 have less of an issue or handling more intelligently with 456 00:24:15,319 --> 00:24:19,559 the bird flu so we've got renewed flocks and we 457 00:24:19,599 --> 00:24:21,400 have more eggs, so those things are coming down. So 458 00:24:21,759 --> 00:24:25,519 there again there's every item is different. But in general, 459 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,519 the reason people can't afford things is their wages haven't 460 00:24:29,599 --> 00:24:33,079 kept up with the devaluation dollar caused by massive death 461 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:36,799 of spending that most policymakers here in Washington see are 462 00:24:36,839 --> 00:24:39,839 just whistling by the graveyard. I mean, we're these appropriation bills. 463 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:41,720 We have about five point two billion dollars of ear 464 00:24:41,759 --> 00:24:45,400 marks in them. Again and this is under Republican control. 465 00:24:46,079 --> 00:24:49,160 We disavowed earmarks when I first got here. That was 466 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,599 the debate between Tom Coburn and Jimmy and Hoff. And 467 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:55,880 then you know, there's legitimate points to have congressionally directed spending, 468 00:24:56,519 --> 00:24:59,200 but I sided with Tom Cobra and the earmarks are 469 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,000 more the gateway rug and we didn't have them for 470 00:25:02,039 --> 00:25:05,079 about ten years. And then Democrats to control and they 471 00:25:05,079 --> 00:25:07,839 were going to do ear mark. We couldn't do anything 472 00:25:07,839 --> 00:25:09,640 to stop it. And as long as they're going to 473 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:11,640 do it, we had Republicans say, well, we ought to 474 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,880 do it too, and unfortunately we didn't stop it when 475 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:18,079 we regained power. But there's a group of us can 476 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:21,039 do everything we can in the next appropriation process to 477 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:23,920 rain that in now. 478 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:27,319 Speaker 1: The Federalist CEO Sean Davis has been talking about that 479 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:32,599 since he worked for Coburn, and they put together one 480 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,480 of the great transparency acts of all time where you 481 00:25:35,519 --> 00:25:38,680 can actually see just how much spending is going on, 482 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:42,759 how much of your tax dollars are going into this leviath. 483 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:46,599 And let's turn our attention to a letter that you 484 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,440 had sent out to Health and Human Services this week, 485 00:25:49,519 --> 00:25:52,640 and it really drives home the point that we've been 486 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:56,759 talking about for some time, the concern about the COVID 487 00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:03,839 shot and the impact to had and is having still 488 00:26:04,559 --> 00:26:09,920 on healthy kids who were mandated to take this shot. 489 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,200 You sent a letter as chairman of the Permanent Subcommittee 490 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:19,960 on Investigations to HHS Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Junior, requesting 491 00:26:20,319 --> 00:26:24,599 records indicating once again that at least ten children died 492 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:29,240 after and because of receiving COVID nineteen vaccination. What are 493 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,240 you looking for in terms of the records on that well. 494 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:33,559 Speaker 5: First of all, I understand that is just the tip 495 00:26:33,599 --> 00:26:36,519 of the iceberg. So let me take you back in time. 496 00:26:37,599 --> 00:26:41,559 We were seeing in the vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System, 497 00:26:41,599 --> 00:26:45,319 that's their surveillance system, within a month or two, literally 498 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:51,119 thousands of people reported deaths associated with the COVID injection 499 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:55,480 within a couple of months. Back then. Of the couple thousands, 500 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,200 forty six percent recurring on the day of vaccination or 501 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,640 within one or two days, and federal officials under Biden 502 00:27:01,759 --> 00:27:04,680 just blew it off. But we are up now today 503 00:27:04,759 --> 00:27:10,359 to thirty nine and thirteen people worldwide reported to veyor's 504 00:27:10,839 --> 00:27:14,200 death associated with the code vaccine, about twenty three point 505 00:27:14,279 --> 00:27:17,960 nine percent of those just shy of ninety three hundred 506 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,680 occurring on the day of vaccination or within two days. 507 00:27:22,319 --> 00:27:27,839 We all witness during COVID with vaccine. We witnessed sports 508 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:31,480 figures dropping around the field. We witnessed newscasters slumping over 509 00:27:31,519 --> 00:27:35,160 at their news. Deaths were here. We have a whole 510 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,240 new You know, we've always heard a SID sudden infant 511 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,640 death syndrome, All of a sudden, we have something called 512 00:27:39,759 --> 00:27:44,440 SADS Sudden adult death syndrome. In the media. Is like, 513 00:27:44,599 --> 00:27:48,480 where's the curiosity. Why is somebody asking what's happening here? 514 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:53,599 So what we found out recently is Tracy Beth Hogue, 515 00:27:54,039 --> 00:27:59,920 a doctor within FDA, looked at what the Biden administration had. 516 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,200 By the way, earlier in this year, we already proved 517 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,880 that the Bite administration knew and admitted there was a 518 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:10,240 safety signal on myrochaidatists and young children, and they hid 519 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,279 that fact. They knew it, and they hit it, and 520 00:28:13,319 --> 00:28:16,000 they hit it so they could approve the injection for 521 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:20,480 people that age category. Now, how sick is that? But 522 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:27,200 Tracy Hogue, doctor Hogue decided to independently take a look 523 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:28,559 at some of the records they had, and I think 524 00:28:28,559 --> 00:28:32,079 they had somebody access to ninety six autopsies of children. 525 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:35,519 Now I understand during COVID it was almost impossible to 526 00:28:35,559 --> 00:28:40,319 get an autopsy because the medical establishment didn't want to 527 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:44,039 know real pool egnents. Right, So they had ninety six 528 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:47,839 autopsies that they reviewed, and she came to the conclusion 529 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:51,519 with her review that they proved some of these proved 530 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:56,240 the COVID injection killed these kids. Well, you know, the 531 00:28:56,279 --> 00:28:59,359 other people in the agency did not want to believe it. 532 00:29:00,079 --> 00:29:03,079 They started leaking her name and started disparaging her. So 533 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:09,720 Vinet Pissad ordered a thorough, a very formal review with 534 00:29:09,799 --> 00:29:13,519 the bias toward if there's any doubt whatsoever, don't include those. 535 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:19,480 So the ninety six autopsies that they conclusively concluded that 536 00:29:19,599 --> 00:29:23,279 ten of those children died of the COVID injection, now 537 00:29:23,839 --> 00:29:25,599 well concerns me about that. And one of the reasons 538 00:29:25,599 --> 00:29:27,319 I wrote the letter. It makes it sound like, oh, 539 00:29:27,359 --> 00:29:30,880 that's it. Yeah, So I mean with all the billions 540 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:35,440 of life saved, you know, that's a collateral damage. The 541 00:29:35,519 --> 00:29:39,039 ten lives is just the tip of the iceberg. Because 542 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,000 the FDA, they weren't looking for autopsies. I don't even 543 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:43,880 know where they got these things. Part of the oversight. 544 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,279 I want to find out all about this, but they 545 00:29:46,279 --> 00:29:49,640 were in a state of denial. They still are, except 546 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:51,480 on a new management. Now you got some people looking 547 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,720 at these things. But one thing we know about veers 548 00:29:54,759 --> 00:29:58,880 is a dramatically understates adverse events. So worldwide we're up 549 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,240 to about one point on almost one point seven million 550 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:06,599 adverse events report on veyers, you know, associated with the 551 00:30:06,119 --> 00:30:09,920 COVID injection. And again just shy at thirty nine thousand 552 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:14,119 deaths and remember you're product. I'm not sure you're old enough. 553 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:17,079 In the seventies with the swine flu oh sure, in 554 00:30:17,119 --> 00:30:19,359 that program, gerald Ford shut that thing down when they 555 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:23,440 were three dozen thirty six reported deaths in about four 556 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:27,799 hundred cases of Gillan beret disease. They shut that thing down, 557 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:33,279 worked to thirty almost thirty nine thousand deaths. And it's like, 558 00:30:33,519 --> 00:30:35,960 we don't see anything here. As I said, you know, 559 00:30:36,799 --> 00:30:39,279 it wasn't reported to national media but local news media. 560 00:30:39,319 --> 00:30:43,599 Because I've seen the clips of the sports people, you know, 561 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:47,400 dropping on the field or on the court, and the newscasters. 562 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:49,599 It was still a state of denial. So no I 563 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:51,920 wrote a letter to Secretary of Kennedy I've viewed as 564 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,359 a friendly oversight letter. I want to get to the 565 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,119 bottom of this. I want to see exactly what they're 566 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,960 looking looking at, and I also want to know exactly 567 00:31:00,119 --> 00:31:03,359 who's pushing back on doctor Hoague as she was trying 568 00:31:03,359 --> 00:31:05,359 to expose all of this. 569 00:31:06,079 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 1: Well, it doesn't fit their narrative, does it. And that's 570 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:13,000 what they've been doing for years along with the accomplished media. 571 00:31:13,079 --> 00:31:17,279 And you're right, there is no thirst for asking these 572 00:31:17,319 --> 00:31:19,960 important questions. So this is going to have to come 573 00:31:20,039 --> 00:31:24,720 through committee work and people who are committed to dealing 574 00:31:24,799 --> 00:31:28,640 with this. But you know, this is the thing you 575 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:35,440 mentioned that ten kids out of ninety six kids that 576 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:42,000 where medical professionals and autopsy. You know, that's more than 577 00:31:42,119 --> 00:31:45,559 ten percent in that pool. I'm not saying that it's 578 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:50,200 ten percent of all, but as you mentioned, we don't know. 579 00:31:50,759 --> 00:31:55,960 We just have the opening sense through these autopsies of 580 00:31:56,079 --> 00:31:58,960 just how significant this could be. Do you think you 581 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:04,119 will be able to uncover documents and communications like we've 582 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:08,640 seen in the past with Fauci and Collins and crew 583 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,440 saying well we got to keep this on the hush hush, 584 00:32:11,519 --> 00:32:12,279 that sort of thing. 585 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,279 Speaker 5: Well, we know they were well aware of their vulnerability 586 00:32:16,319 --> 00:32:19,680 to Floyer requests. My oside staff, we're the ones that 587 00:32:19,799 --> 00:32:24,000 pulled the the haystack and got that doctor Morin's email 588 00:32:24,039 --> 00:32:27,400 where we say, hey, don't don't contact me official, you 589 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:31,440 use Gmail. Got a gal here in the Foyer office 590 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,440 to you know, teach us all how to avoid having 591 00:32:34,519 --> 00:32:36,920 documents to provide them for FOYA. So you know, again 592 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:40,400 we know that they were going to hide, you know, 593 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,640 the wrongdoing. So I don't know what documents that were 594 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,319 never produced. How much of this was always done verbally 595 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:53,400 versus putting it in electronic communication. And even though Secretary 596 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:58,839 of Kennedy's absolutely committed to radical transparency, we did get 597 00:32:58,839 --> 00:33:01,599 about an eight million page document. Dumb, but it was 598 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,119 that it wasn't organized. I mean, that's a lot of 599 00:33:04,119 --> 00:33:08,519 pages go through to sift through and try and find things. 600 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,519 We're finding more things. We're not ready to release it yet, 601 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,039 but in this case, we didn't get any of this, 602 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,480 and this information should have been responsible to our request. 603 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,480 I mean, this is exactly the kind of things we're requesting. 604 00:33:20,839 --> 00:33:23,440 We didn't get these documents as part of our eight 605 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,119 million pages. Yeah, I mean, I'm not blaming Secretary Kennedy. 606 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:27,880 I'm blaming the people in the agencies are going to 607 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,480 keep this stuff covered up and tell us exposed, either 608 00:33:30,519 --> 00:33:35,119 through whistleblowers or some dedicated individuals like doctor Hogan, doctor Rossad, 609 00:33:35,119 --> 00:33:36,680 who's going to try and get the truth out. 610 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 1: Speaking of foot dragging by government bureaucrats, Well, where do 611 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:45,599 things stand. I know that your committee has been investigating 612 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:52,480 the assassination attempt in two thousand and twenty four Pennsylvania 613 00:33:52,519 --> 00:33:57,359 against President Trump. I know that you've been looking into 614 00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:01,880 as well some of the other issues that they have 615 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:09,800 involved these abusive investigations by the Biden DOJ elsewhere where 616 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:11,679 do those things stand right now? 617 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:18,079 Speaker 5: Pretty much the standstill Again. I'm getting my frustration levels growing. 618 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,920 I've got a great deal sympathy for what turned General 619 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:25,400 Bondi and Director Patel are trying to deal with. I mean, 620 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,719 they are dealing with deep state actors inside their agencies. 621 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:30,599 I've talked to other people the same thing, with the 622 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,079 Bobby Candy over HH and Chest. You've got people who 623 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,840 are not on board, a lot of people left. They're 624 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:40,800 having a hard time recruiting because of the lawfare conducted 625 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,159 against people like Judge Troopus. We can maybe talk about 626 00:34:43,159 --> 00:34:46,119 that later, Yeah, for sure, but no, we are not 627 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,559 getting I subpoened the FBI director I've viewed as a 628 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:55,360 friendly subpoena pony up. It was July, it was the 629 00:34:55,880 --> 00:35:00,199 one year anniversary, and we've done a Biparisian investigation. But 630 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,960 once the Trump administration came to office, I kind of figured, Okay, 631 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,360 they've got the real investatory capabilities. They got the documents. 632 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:08,719 I figure President Trump is going to want that, so 633 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,440 they'd be uncovering that all of a sudden, It's July 634 00:35:11,639 --> 00:35:14,960 and we're looking at we just don't have much. We 635 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,880 haven't got anything out of the FBI. We still haven't, 636 00:35:18,639 --> 00:35:22,480 so I can't really explain it. I can make excuses 637 00:35:22,519 --> 00:35:26,480 for him, I suppose, But my frustration level is growing. 638 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:31,239 And you know, the American people deserve these answers. But 639 00:35:31,679 --> 00:35:35,079 the FI, the FBI is it's a it's a bureaucracy. 640 00:35:35,199 --> 00:35:39,199 It's there's entrenched deep staters. Uh, they've got their way 641 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:43,599 about doing things. And let's face it, congressional oversight has atrophied. 642 00:35:44,679 --> 00:35:47,360 It's very difficult for us to enforce us peanut power. 643 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:51,880 So administration after administration, bureaucracy after bureaucracy bowls us off. 644 00:35:52,079 --> 00:35:56,239 They're just not they're not responsive. They we'll wait them out. 645 00:35:57,519 --> 00:36:01,360 Speaker 1: That is the administrative state in a nutshell. And you 646 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:06,440 know firsthand about just how deep the deep state goes. 647 00:36:06,519 --> 00:36:11,440 In fact, they were surveilling your at least your phone records. 648 00:36:12,159 --> 00:36:15,440 Have you gotten any more answers on that front, just 649 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:20,239 simply as a senator who was you know, let's let's 650 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,000 be honest, let's use the word victimized by this. 651 00:36:24,679 --> 00:36:27,480 Speaker 5: Well, we're getting the rationale for doing it. I mean, 652 00:36:27,519 --> 00:36:31,039 let's face it, Jack Smith tried to criminalize, as Josh 653 00:36:31,079 --> 00:36:37,199 calls criminalizing the US surrounding January sixth, primarily the ultimate 654 00:36:37,199 --> 00:36:40,840 state of electors, like that was some kind of criminal act. No, 655 00:36:41,119 --> 00:36:44,519 it's exactly what John F. Kennedy did and the reason 656 00:36:44,559 --> 00:36:48,199 he got Hawaii's elector Or Voss in the electric dispute, 657 00:36:48,199 --> 00:36:52,039 which was originally given to Nixon. He won, but because 658 00:36:52,039 --> 00:36:53,920 he had an ultima sate of electors, they could actually 659 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,559 vote for him. Al Gore did not. His legal team 660 00:36:57,599 --> 00:37:00,599 wasn't smart enough to have an altimate state of electors 661 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,320 in the disputed state Florida, and so when reached the 662 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:07,039 Supreme Court, he didn't have a case. Yeah, I mean 663 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,440 even threw word one. He didn't have an ultimately save 664 00:37:09,519 --> 00:37:14,039 electors to elect him president. So Jim Troops was smart enough, 665 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,159 rep saying, President Trump, but we've got this active case. 666 00:37:18,199 --> 00:37:21,440 We have all these irregularities which let's face the Wisconsin 667 00:37:21,519 --> 00:37:25,760 Supreme Court never looked at. Now dismissed it, clocal ashes 668 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:30,519 and destroy right, but all these irregularities that were looked at, 669 00:37:30,519 --> 00:37:34,159 and Judge Troopers said, well, in case we prevail, we 670 00:37:34,199 --> 00:37:36,679 need also save the electors. He did it totally above board. 671 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,559 The Wisconsin Trading General's office deemed it to the Wisconsin 672 00:37:40,599 --> 00:37:43,760 Election Commission is entirely proper. Or what he did. And 673 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:47,239 now a year or so after that, now Josh Tray 674 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:53,920 General Josh call is viewing as a federal of felony 675 00:37:54,320 --> 00:38:00,199 felony forgery. How absurd, and they're going through this you know, 676 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:02,880 inquisition type of true. I mean, this is this is 677 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:07,519 such a miscarriage justice. What they're doing to a very 678 00:38:07,559 --> 00:38:11,400 honorable person of high integrity, Judge Troops in Wisconsin, as 679 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,239 well as the mayor up in Wallsa. It's grotesque what 680 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,000 a Trey General Josh Carl is doing to these people. 681 00:38:17,519 --> 00:38:22,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think unfortunately, because the national press isn't 682 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:27,079 all that interested unless it is, you know, pushing the 683 00:38:27,199 --> 00:38:33,400 narrative of the insurrection and you know, Trump overthrowing, attempting 684 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,800 to overthrow the election and all of that sort of nonsense, 685 00:38:37,039 --> 00:38:45,679 which you know, real investigative reporting has Joan was absolutely 686 00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,960 that nonsense. But in the state of Wisconsin you had 687 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:55,000 a former judge Jim troopis a nationally respected attorney when 688 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:59,400 it comes to election law and a specialty in recount law, 689 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:03,599 and that's exactly what Wisconsin had. Right after the November 690 00:39:03,639 --> 00:39:08,440 election of twenty twenty. There were a lot of disputed 691 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:13,800 and rightly disputed votes that came in. Some of them 692 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:17,599 broke election law how they were handled, and so the 693 00:39:17,639 --> 00:39:20,639 Trump campaign said, well, wait a minute here, we're not 694 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:24,000 just going to concede the ten electoral votes of Wisconsin. 695 00:39:24,159 --> 00:39:26,880 We're going to challenge this. And they had the right 696 00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:29,159 to do that, of course, and they had a right 697 00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:32,920 to bring in an attorney who would work for their 698 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:36,920 best interest. That is what attorneys are supposed to do. 699 00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:41,480 And so you had troopis Ken cheesebro by the way, 700 00:39:42,639 --> 00:39:47,840 who was in two thousand part of that Gore campaign, 701 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:52,400 the legal team that came up with and looked back 702 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:56,039 at nineteen sixty and the close race in Hawaii between 703 00:39:56,159 --> 00:39:58,760 Kennedy and Nixon and said, well, we can use that 704 00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:03,559 it's an alternate electionors to hold those electoral votes in 705 00:40:03,639 --> 00:40:06,320 case we prevail in the courts, then we don't have 706 00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,480 to give them up. And like you said, Gore in 707 00:40:09,519 --> 00:40:11,840 his campaign, folks said, now we're not going to pursue 708 00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:15,880 that this is all within the law. And Josh Call, 709 00:40:16,599 --> 00:40:22,840 who has been basically directed by National Democrats to make 710 00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:29,400 this a story in twenty twenty six. They have effectively, 711 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:34,719 there's no effectively about it. They have run this prosecution 712 00:40:36,199 --> 00:40:42,599 into individuals. Like I said before, they have the legal 713 00:40:42,679 --> 00:40:46,320 precedents on their side, but they want a show trial 714 00:40:46,679 --> 00:40:49,760 so that they can knock Trump and they can go 715 00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:53,000 after Republicans and try to take back power. And they're 716 00:40:53,039 --> 00:40:59,199 doing this too with a liberal Dane County judge who 717 00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:02,280 there's a good body of evidence suggest he didn't write 718 00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:06,400 his own order saying that the trial must go on 719 00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:13,599 when the defense was looking to dismiss these these allegations, 720 00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:19,360 these trumped up allegations, if you will, But instead a judge, 721 00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:24,480 a retired judge with a grudge against troopists. According to 722 00:41:25,519 --> 00:41:30,119 document a document expert in this case is thought to 723 00:41:30,199 --> 00:41:35,000 have actually written this, and the judge won't recuse himself. 724 00:41:35,079 --> 00:41:37,840 So is there any way that these guys are going 725 00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,599 to get a fair trial in the liberal bastion of 726 00:41:40,679 --> 00:41:42,519 Dane County, Wisconsin and Madison. 727 00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:46,599 Speaker 5: Well, short answer that is no, because any fair minded judge, 728 00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:50,719 based on the miscarriage justice being carried out by Josh 729 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:54,039 Call would have dismissed the case but again that judge 730 00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:59,239 is now being accused of not even writing the order 731 00:42:00,079 --> 00:42:05,360 that didn't dismiss the case. And Judge troup As apparently 732 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:10,519 has got forensical linguistic experts which have been used in 733 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,559 court have been used to convict people, so that's a 734 00:42:13,639 --> 00:42:18,480 legitimate thing to do. But the judge who's being accused 735 00:42:20,039 --> 00:42:22,400 held the hearing is whether or not they should hear 736 00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:26,199 the evidence of his misconduct, and he didn't give him 737 00:42:26,199 --> 00:42:29,000 the hearing, and so that could be a civil rights violation, 738 00:42:29,119 --> 00:42:31,880 which was which prompted a letter from me to Pam 739 00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:35,239 Bondi because now this becomes a federal issue, and I 740 00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:39,519 just hope that the Attorney General, Pam Bondi, takes us up, 741 00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:43,880 gets the US Attorney involved, and we start investigating this 742 00:42:44,039 --> 00:42:46,559 so that Judge Troopis gets a fair trial because he 743 00:42:46,599 --> 00:42:50,159 will not get he already has not. I mean, it's egregious. 744 00:42:50,679 --> 00:42:54,079 This case never should have been brought, The indictment never 745 00:42:54,119 --> 00:42:57,559 should have been handed down, It never should have been 746 00:42:57,559 --> 00:43:01,239 dismissed as soon as they file papers for dismissal. The 747 00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:03,920 fact that the trial has actually begun is just a 748 00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:05,320 travesty justice. 749 00:43:05,519 --> 00:43:07,840 Speaker 1: It is, and it's part of the national campaign by 750 00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:11,960 the Democrats, of course in swing states in twenty twenty, 751 00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:18,280 where the Trump campaign, of course challenged those irregularities, to 752 00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:20,960 say the least in those states. Now Michigan, a judge 753 00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:25,159 has already thrown out a similar case saying, listen, you 754 00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:28,000 folks are really barking up the wrong tree. They did 755 00:43:28,039 --> 00:43:31,480 not break any laws here. I believe New Mexico did 756 00:43:31,559 --> 00:43:35,800 the same thing, Pennsylvania did the same thing. But you 757 00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:41,440 still have pending criminal cases going on in places like 758 00:43:41,559 --> 00:43:46,440 Nevada and Arizona. And it is all to feed this 759 00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:52,719 narrative that Trump was trying to overthrow the election, which 760 00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:56,480 of course was all about January sixth, twenty twenty one, 761 00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:01,360 and their narrative about in insurrection. And I guess as 762 00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,960 a final thought here, just to get your thoughts on here, 763 00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:08,039 we have seen a lot of what could be characterized 764 00:44:08,079 --> 00:44:14,679 as insurrectionary behavior on the part of the left in 765 00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:18,920 the first uh what eleven months of the Trump administration. 766 00:44:19,559 --> 00:44:22,360 But the left and the accomplished media continue to focus 767 00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:27,280 on this bogus alternate elector's case. 768 00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:32,119 Speaker 5: Well, first of all, it's far worse than conducting lawfare. 769 00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:35,119 To continue this narrative this is This isn't a messaging war. 770 00:44:35,519 --> 00:44:38,239 This is far more destructive than that. I mean, the 771 00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:43,039 process is the punishment. But because the process is the punishment, 772 00:44:43,119 --> 00:44:47,000 it is a huge deterrence from any other attorney who 773 00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:50,239 would ever think of defending Trump or joining the FBI, 774 00:44:50,679 --> 00:44:53,960 or join the Justice Department, or going to work for AHHS. 775 00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:56,920 So that's that's why I'm highly sympathetic with Pam Body 776 00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:59,000 and cash for Tel not being able to give us 777 00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:02,840 all the documents reques. There is resistance within the deep state. 778 00:45:03,159 --> 00:45:06,719 You still partison actors there. They can't purge the entire agency, 779 00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,079 and they can't they can't backfield the ones that have 780 00:45:09,159 --> 00:45:12,239 left or that they've terminated, because again, who if you're 781 00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,639 a young lawyer, do you really want to be blackballed 782 00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:19,119 by all the legal firms? This is this is far 783 00:45:19,199 --> 00:45:24,280 more sinister, far more destructive, and far more targeted towards 784 00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:28,599 just literally crippling their political oppositions. Not just about Trump. 785 00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:30,880 It's not just about the few members of Congress who 786 00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:35,800 had our phone record snatched. This is a pervasive campaign 787 00:45:36,559 --> 00:45:41,280 to literally cripple the Democrat, the radical lefts political opposition. 788 00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:45,559 And is it is highly effected because most people don't 789 00:45:45,599 --> 00:45:50,440 even understand the destructive of implications here and how unbelievably 790 00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:52,559 effective it is. It's not it's I mean, the narrative 791 00:45:52,639 --> 00:45:53,920 is just a small part of it. 792 00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:58,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is this is real weaponization of justice and 793 00:45:59,159 --> 00:46:05,119 using government agencies, big government agencies to perform the bidding 794 00:46:05,679 --> 00:46:11,760 of their masters in progressive power circles. Well, thanks to 795 00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:15,519 my guest today, Senator Ron Johnson, chairman of the Permanent 796 00:46:15,519 --> 00:46:19,719 Subcommittee on Investigations. That committee has been very active, very 797 00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:21,840 busy in getting to the bottom of a lot of 798 00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,920 the stuff we've just been talking about. You've been listening 799 00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:28,000 to another edition of The Federalist Radio Hour. I'm Matt Kittle, 800 00:46:28,079 --> 00:46:31,960 Senior Elections correspondent at the Federalist. We'll be back soon 801 00:46:32,039 --> 00:46:36,199 with more. Until then, stay lovers of freedom, anxious for 802 00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:36,639 the fray 803 00:46:41,559 --> 00:46:48,000 Speaker 2: Right.