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Speaker 2: are joined by Heather hop Bruce. She's a member of
Speaker 2: the Boston Globe staff and she wrote a piece along
Speaker 2: with some of the other folks. This is a real
Speaker 2: opus here ten unsolved, creepy or just weird Boston archaeological discoveries. Heather,
Speaker 2: I'm still reading this. This is good stuff. Was this
Speaker 2: time for Halloween because it's perfect for tonight's program, herod
Speaker 2: Night's side. I know you didn't do it for us specifically,
Speaker 2: but was it well?
Speaker 3: I have to there's a lot of discussion about it
Speaker 3: because one of the pieces, these huge old carved stones
Speaker 3: that are on Millennium Park are right on the bank
Speaker 3: of the Charles River, and I was really worried that
Speaker 3: the Charles is going to rise and and and they'd
Speaker 3: be underwater as they are part of the year. So
Speaker 3: we published it a little bit earlier just in case
Speaker 3: that would happen. But you know, it hasn't ranged so much,
Speaker 3: so people can go see, I'm that nice.
Speaker 2: Well you have you have ten unsolved creepy or just
Speaker 2: worried Boston archological discoveries Again, I'm was this in the
Speaker 2: Boston The Globe Sunday magazine or is it to be
Speaker 2: published coming up?
Speaker 3: We had it in print, It was in the Idea
Speaker 3: section maybe U twoish three ish weeks ago, okay, and yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: but the digital.
Speaker 4: Version is better.
Speaker 2: You know, I thought I had seen it, but I
Speaker 2: hadn't a chance to read it except now I'm looking
Speaker 2: at it, and this is fascinating stuff. It looked as
Speaker 2: a number of writers worked with you. You, of course, I think,
Speaker 2: are what you have. David Ryan, who's one of your photographers,
Speaker 2: was involved in some of this. Amy McKinnon, there were
Speaker 2: a lot of you that were involved in this. You
Speaker 2: of course were as well. Let's start off with a
Speaker 2: couple of them. Just to wet people's appetite. Here tell
Speaker 2: us about the seventeenth century rotten tooth from Charlestown. Now
Speaker 2: that's you and Nattie Klein, who worked on this project,
Speaker 2: tell us about this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that one was fun because I was speculating, you know,
Speaker 3: did someone keep it as a trophy? Why do we
Speaker 3: have this tooth? Maybe there's some dentists love this. But Nadia,
Speaker 3: who's at the City of Archaeology program and they're so wonderful,
Speaker 3: wrote and said, to be clear, no one is keeping
Speaker 3: this tooth. It was probably just thrown in the bathroom
Speaker 3: and somehow in the toilet and somehow preservedly.
Speaker 2: Who found it? I mean, how is this tooth located?
Speaker 3: They so the archaeology team, they they're amazing. First of all,
Speaker 3: they're so interesting and fun and cool and wonderful to
Speaker 3: work with. A lot of the stuff they find in
Speaker 3: old privies and old toilets. There's this one the tooth
Speaker 3: was found in a toilet. There's a nineteenth eighteenth century
Speaker 3: brothel was yeah, seventeenth I was confused it to anyway,
Speaker 3: this old brothel. They found all sorts of amazing things
Speaker 3: in the Privy and in Dorchester at an old school
Speaker 3: for girls. They found hundreds of doll parts in the privy.
Speaker 3: There really interesting stuff.
Speaker 2: Okay, so let's hit a couple of the other a
Speaker 2: brain coral and a butchered whalebone.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was fun too.
Speaker 2: Hu.
Speaker 3: Those are actually two separate ones, and I grouped them once.
Speaker 3: A fun thing about this is there's all sorts of
Speaker 3: speculation about why these things where white people had these
Speaker 3: things and what they did with them. And the archaeology
Speaker 3: team speculated that both of these maybe were used as
Speaker 3: a doorstops, so they were found in different places and
Speaker 3: from different times. But I'm like, we should have a
Speaker 3: doorstop section.
Speaker 4: So with those two things.
Speaker 3: The brain coral is huge.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm looking. I'm looking at a picture of
Speaker 2: it right now. I see the Oh my goodness, this
Speaker 2: is uh isn't it really creepy? There's really creepy stuff
Speaker 2: in here. The tavern cat crossed out dog skeleton, so
Speaker 2: there was a skeleton that they thought was a cat.
Speaker 3: But yeah, there was a skeleton that was found in
Speaker 3: at the base of stairs in front of this tavern
Speaker 3: in Charlestown, and it had a hole in the skull,
Speaker 3: so it had been killed and it was small and
Speaker 3: kind of a flat face, and we thought for years
Speaker 3: and years and years and it was a cat and
Speaker 3: maybe it was put there on purpose the word off witches,
Speaker 3: which is a thing apparently. But then somewhat recently, as
Speaker 3: student was looking at it for their thesis, I believe,
Speaker 3: and was looking at the teeth and figured it was
Speaker 3: actually actually a dog and it's this now extinct dog
Speaker 3: species as some like little pug mini bulldog things. And
Speaker 3: it was young, and they're not sure why it was
Speaker 3: killed and why it was buried there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, obviously the history of this, all of these is interesting.
Speaker 2: I mean, look, I guess as as generations, we leave
Speaker 2: things behind when we move on to a far better place.
Speaker 2: I have a habit of when I travel, I'll bring
Speaker 2: back souvenirs. A rock. Oh I do too, Yes, do
Speaker 2: you do that?
Speaker 3: It's the best, Yeah, flat rocks.
Speaker 2: And so what I write on where where I took
Speaker 2: it from and and the date. Uh, And so I
Speaker 2: can look at it and I have my my assembly
Speaker 2: of rocks. At some point someone probably is going to
Speaker 2: find one of those rocks a couple of three hundred
Speaker 2: years downline, say, how was this rock from filling the blank,
Speaker 2: I'm not going to die. Where he brought the rocks from?
Speaker 2: How did this rock which is only found here end
Speaker 2: up in Boston, Massachusetts?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: So I always think that in like hundreds and thousands
Speaker 3: of years from now, like humanity will be gone and
Speaker 3: in this thick forest, just every every few steps there's
Speaker 3: going to be a big marble countertop, just.
Speaker 2: The I love it. Well, this was great, this was great,
Speaker 2: fun to chat with you. Heather hop Grouse Boston's Archaeological
Speaker 2: Discoveries ten Onsolved, Creepy or just weird Boston Archaeological Discoveries.
Speaker 2: And this can still be found online.
Speaker 4: I assume in the bust it is online.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can go to Globe dot com, backslash Opinion
Speaker 3: and it's free right now, so you don't have to
Speaker 3: subscribe to the Globe. And each of the things has
Speaker 3: a Google Map, so you get to the end, you
Speaker 3: click it and it can tell you how to get
Speaker 3: to the site and in some cases see the thing.
Speaker 3: It's still there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's it's fascinating. It's really well done. The
Speaker 2: folks you did, the team here that put together the visuals.
Speaker 2: It really brings it all to life.
Speaker 3: This is oh thank you.
Speaker 2: Normally I love the hand of the newspaper, the feel
Speaker 2: of the newspaper in my hands, I should say, but
Speaker 2: this is one that adds a lot of texture to it,
Speaker 2: some of the digital aspects of this. So congratulations, thanks
Speaker 2: so much. Well, thank you. Project.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's coming up and it's going to be cool.
Speaker 3: But I can't tell you what it is.
Speaker 2: I understand that's one of the secret, top secret. Let
Speaker 2: us know, keep us in mind.
Speaker 3: Okay, not a problem, all right, speaking of.
Speaker 2: The Boston Clube, really good stuff. Now, when we get back,
Speaker 2: right after the break, we're going to be talking about
Speaker 2: business etiquette classes, believe it or not, from the great
Speaker 2: grandson of the founder of etiquette. We will explain all
Speaker 2: of that right after this break. This is Nightside. My
Speaker 2: name's Dan Ray right here on WBZ ten thirty in
Speaker 2: the AM dial. Again it is Emily Post's great grandson.
Speaker 2: We will get our etiquette lesson from someone who should know.
Speaker 2: We'll be back right after this.
Speaker 1: Now, back to Dan Ray live from the Window World,
Speaker 1: Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2: Well, business etiquette, I guess, as somebody who's worked in
Speaker 2: radio and television for a long time, I would hope
Speaker 2: people who are adults and have positions, whether it's in television, radio,
Speaker 2: whether it's in a school or a hospital or a
Speaker 2: retail store, understand how it is, how it's proper to work. However,
Speaker 2: since the end of last year, Daniel Post Senning, who
Speaker 2: is the great great grandson of the founder of American etiquette.
Speaker 2: They call it the American Etiquette Queen, Emily Post. He
Speaker 2: is also co president of the Emily Post Institute. He's
Speaker 2: a pretty busy guy right now, Daniel Post sending welcome
Speaker 2: to Nightside, Welcome to Boston.
Speaker 5: Well, thank you so much. It's good to be with you.
Speaker 2: So tell us what has prompted this renewed emphasis and
Speaker 2: this renewed necessity for people to learn how to act
Speaker 2: properly at work.
Speaker 5: It's a good question, and it's one that we've been
Speaker 5: asking ourselves. And while we don't have, you know, a
Speaker 5: perfect answer, it is certainly true that in the fifteen
Speaker 5: years that I've been working at the Emily Post Institute,
Speaker 5: we've never seen as much interest in the particularly the
Speaker 5: training services that we provide, the instructional and the guidance
Speaker 5: that we can provide for businesses and organizations and There's
Speaker 5: no question that we were anticipating a return to interest
Speaker 5: in these topics as America got back to work after
Speaker 5: the pandemic, and there was a little bit of a lag.
Speaker 5: I think it took a little longer than we expected,
Speaker 5: but I do think it's a result of that period
Speaker 5: coming to an end and people returning to the workplace,
Speaker 5: and they're being a real acceleration to some trends that
Speaker 5: had already been in place, trends of more and more
Speaker 5: distributed and remote workforces, people communicating in very different ways
Speaker 5: in the work environment, the distribution of communication and information
Speaker 5: being very different than people had been used to just
Speaker 5: ten years ago when when the iPhone was first introduced.
Speaker 5: So there have been a lot of technical challenges and
Speaker 5: a lot of social challenges, and as we've gotten back
Speaker 5: to work, those challenges have have have left us ready
Speaker 5: to recommit and rethink about how we invest in relationships
Speaker 5: between people because ultimately it's the oldest cliche and business
Speaker 5: because it's true.
Speaker 2: Okay, So so the bottom ie give me, give me
Speaker 2: if you can some examples of the behavior that has
Speaker 2: to be corrected. I mean, all of us who you
Speaker 2: know worked in offices and I now work remotely. I
Speaker 2: think I would go back to work, and I would
Speaker 2: treat people the same way. We're not talking about, you know,
Speaker 2: whether you hold your peaky out when you're having when
Speaker 2: you're sipping your tea or not. I assume that that's
Speaker 2: not the sort of etiquette we're talking about. Explain to
Speaker 2: us what you're able to to provide businesses and through
Speaker 2: them their their employees.
Speaker 5: I think the lens of human relationships is really the
Speaker 5: I think the greatest gift that etiquette can give. Ultimately,
Speaker 5: Emily herself said etiquette is in some rigid set of
Speaker 5: rules or manners. It's simply how people's lives touch one another.
Speaker 5: And I think it was that clarity of vision that
Speaker 5: she brought to the topic that gave her advice such
Speaker 5: durability and has made it relevant for generations. And the
Speaker 5: other sort of thing I've got to respond to in
Speaker 5: the question that you asked is the idea of correction.
Speaker 5: And it's certainly true that when the word etiquette pops
Speaker 5: into someone's mind, it can generate very different feelings. Some
Speaker 5: people remember experiences they treasure. Some people remember experiences where
Speaker 5: they felt out of place or excluded, and to really
Speaker 5: get the full benefit out of etiquette. I think it's
Speaker 5: important to talk about using it as a tool for
Speaker 5: self assessment, self correction, and improvement, not necessarily to judge
Speaker 5: or assess others, but really to equip us to think
Speaker 5: about being our best with others and in the business environment.
Speaker 2: Which you're giving me is a lot of language here,
Speaker 2: and I'm trying to understand how, if I'm an employer,
Speaker 2: what you can do for me to help more employees
Speaker 2: represent themselves in my company better. Is there a question
Speaker 2: of dressing more properly? Is it a question of interactions?
Speaker 2: Is it what? What? Where? Where? Do we need to
Speaker 2: be improved upon? Is what I'm surely trying to ask you, Daniel.
Speaker 5: Sure. Major topic areas include communication. Obviously for business that's
Speaker 5: a big one, but dress and attire does come into play,
Speaker 5: particularly with an increasingly casual and informal world where people
Speaker 5: get to make a lot of choices. Thinking clearly about
Speaker 5: how you represent yourself and your business and being intentional
Speaker 5: about that as you make those choices in some ways
Speaker 5: is more important now than ever. It's not just a
Speaker 5: matter of putting on the uniform, and maybe that uniform
Speaker 5: was the suit and tie. Maybe it was an actual uniform.
Speaker 5: But as some of those structures have relaxed, it's meant
Speaker 5: to individuals are having to make more and more choices
Speaker 5: and better and better choices to really to do that well.
Speaker 5: So dressing attires and other area dining etiquette is still important.
Speaker 5: The social ritual of sharing food is one of the
Speaker 5: most important that we participate in and a lot of
Speaker 5: relationships are formed in that way, whether it's business deals
Speaker 5: or just relationships between co workers and colleagues.
Speaker 2: So how long do you think it takes a company?
Speaker 2: I guess it depends upon the size of the company
Speaker 2: to avail themselves of your services. Do you folks swoop
Speaker 2: in from somewhere and walk around? Is this all done
Speaker 2: remotely over zoom calls? And all of that tell us?
Speaker 2: What tell us what the procedure is? Who have companies
Speaker 2: still listening and want to get in touch with you?
Speaker 2: What should they do?
Speaker 5: Sure, well, it's to use an ald etiquette expression, it's
Speaker 5: soup to nuts. We have consultation services for individuals, but
Speaker 5: we also do seminars and presenting. We have trainer programs
Speaker 5: where we train trainers and we can do that internally
Speaker 5: for companies. We also train people who are interested in
Speaker 5: teaching in their own communities or in their own businesses.
Speaker 5: We also have a very popular new term these days,
Speaker 5: micro learning. We have learning platforms and solutions, but I
Speaker 5: really think there's a premium, particularly when you're teaching etiquette
Speaker 5: on human interaction and human contact. I think the opportunity
Speaker 5: to work directly with people, whether it's live, online or
Speaker 5: in person, or to train trainers that can then go
Speaker 5: talk to communities in ways that are really relevant to
Speaker 5: those communities are the best ways to distribute the core
Speaker 5: and essential messages. And those messages are both the particular manners,
Speaker 5: but they're also about that approach that so much of
Speaker 5: good etiquette training isn't just about defining what those common
Speaker 5: expectations are, but helping people understand why they're important and
Speaker 5: why they're worth investing in and recommitting to every day.
Speaker 5: Another thing that we like to say at the Emily
Speaker 5: Post Institute is etiqett isn't something you know, it's something
Speaker 5: you practice and figuring out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got to practice throwing to my news guest
Speaker 2: at the bottom of the hour here, how can folks
Speaker 2: get in touch with you? At the Emily Post Institute,
Speaker 2: I'm sure. There's a pretty simple website.
Speaker 5: You can find out anything you want to know at
Speaker 5: Emily Post dot com.
Speaker 2: Perfect. Perfect, Daniel. I appreciate it very much, and I
Speaker 2: enjoyed our conversation and we'll perhaps talk again. Daniel Post
Speaker 2: setting the great great grandson of Emily Post and he
Speaker 2: is also the co president of the Emily Post Institute.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Daniel, appreciate it very much.
Speaker 5: Just take good care, good night.
Speaker 2: When we get back, we're going to talk about something
Speaker 2: maybe a little less I don't know, involved with less etiquette,
Speaker 2: and that is we're going to be talking with a
Speaker 2: woman who founded an organization called Pumpkins for Pigs. So
Speaker 2: probably not etiquette is the top of this next conversation,
Speaker 2: but I think it will be interesting. We'll be back
Speaker 2: on Nightside right after the News at the bottom of
Speaker 2: the hour.
Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2: Well, it is a Halloween and on many people's front
Speaker 2: steps or backsteps, now we have a pumpkin. Maybe the
Speaker 2: pumpkin is carved, maybe the pumpkin is a whole, but
Speaker 2: at some point those pumpkins are going to be put
Speaker 2: away for Thanksgiving or Christmas decorations. With us is Jennifer Seaffert.
Speaker 2: She's the founder of Pumpkins for Pigs Foundation. Jennifer, A
Speaker 2: pleasure to meet you. I did not realize that there
Speaker 2: was a Pumpkins for Pigs Foundation. Tell us about it.
Speaker 4: Yes, thank you for having me. We're excited to share
Speaker 4: this information with your audience. We started in twenty seventeen
Speaker 4: and I was talking to a farmer one evening when
Speaker 4: I was picking up my eggs and I said, Hey,
Speaker 4: I have these pumpkins on my front step. Do you
Speaker 4: have any suggestions? And he said, bring them by. My
Speaker 4: animals would love them. And that's what started the whole thing.
Speaker 2: Really, Now is your organization growing?
Speaker 1: Tell us?
Speaker 2: You know, tell us about about I know now where
Speaker 2: you started, but where are you at this point?
Speaker 4: So we have six hundred locations across North America and
Speaker 4: so we've grown quite a bit. Yeah, well, we're always
Speaker 4: looking to grow. Obviously, there are still a lot more
Speaker 4: farms than animal sanctuaries that could benefit from the service,
Speaker 4: So please join us.
Speaker 2: Okay, So how much of a presence, how much of
Speaker 2: a footprint do you have in New England? For example,
Speaker 2: we're a big radio station that broadcasts really over the
Speaker 2: air radio terrestrial radio as we call it, into most
Speaker 2: of the eastern half of the United States. But we
Speaker 2: have more listeners obviously in New England than we do
Speaker 2: in further away places. So what sort of a footprint
Speaker 2: do you have up in this neck of the woods. Well, we.
Speaker 4: Do have locations in throughout New England. We have a
Speaker 4: few in every state up there. But I do know
Speaker 4: that we've had a few folks from Connecticut specifically contact
Speaker 4: us and say, hey, you know there aren't any in
Speaker 4: my county. What can I do to help? And so
Speaker 4: we've invited them to talk to folks at their farmers'
Speaker 4: markets and invite them to join us so that we
Speaker 4: could offer more options to your listeners.
Speaker 2: Okay, yesterday I was watching television here in Boston. I
Speaker 2: worked in TV for a long time, and I watched
Speaker 2: what I'm told was a traditional event at Boston University,
Speaker 2: which happens to me where I went to law school.
Speaker 2: And I was kind of stunned to walk watch students
Speaker 2: from Boston University catapult or throw pumpkins off the roof
Speaker 2: of a building, perfectly fine pumpkins, just to smash them
Speaker 2: on the ground. They had a tarp there and all
Speaker 2: of that, and it just seemed to me to be
Speaker 2: really wasteful. And also, you know, really nothing was accomplished,
Speaker 2: but everybody was standing around and watching these pumpkins thrown
Speaker 2: off the top of this building and it was probably
Speaker 2: five or six stories, so of course the pumpkin would
Speaker 2: would would smash. That bothered me.
Speaker 6: Yesterday, to be really honest with you, because I thought
Speaker 6: at the time, I thought, well, gee, those pumpkins, as
Speaker 6: opposed to being used for some sort of you know,
Speaker 6: entertainment or a student tradition, could.
Speaker 2: Have ended up you know, feeding some farming animals. And
Speaker 2: it's just funny that that tonight now we're talking with
Speaker 2: you about this. So so uh, why is it that
Speaker 2: pumpkins and of course at this time of year there's
Speaker 2: a proliferation of pumpkins. Why is it that you were
Speaker 2: able to figure this out? Besides obviously the conversation with
Speaker 2: the farmer, Why is it that pumpkins are so delicious
Speaker 2: to animals of all stroits?
Speaker 5: I guess that's right.
Speaker 4: So pumpkins that are grown for us for decoration are
Speaker 4: primarily a variety that you and I would not eat,
Speaker 4: and we do not have the gi tract and system
Speaker 4: to support consumption of that for the most part. And
Speaker 4: so you know, approximately two billion are produced every year.
Speaker 4: One point six billion are sold and made it to
Speaker 4: our homes and then they end up in the landfill.
Speaker 4: And for the animals it is actually sweet to them
Speaker 4: in some regards. It's also a natural dewormer to a
Speaker 4: certain extent, which is important at this time of year.
Speaker 4: So there's a lot of benefits to them and as
Speaker 4: you said, a variety of animals that will eat them.
Speaker 2: Well, it's funny when you think about pumpkins. One of
Speaker 2: the things that I always think about is, well, pumpkins
Speaker 2: that end up making pumpkin pie. But I guess it's
Speaker 2: not every sort of pumpkin that gets made into pumpkin pie.
Speaker 2: I've just learned something from you, am I reading you properly,
Speaker 2: that that a certain percentage of these pumpkins I cannot
Speaker 2: be consumed by humans. And that's not the pumpkin we're
Speaker 2: talking about. We're talking about the decorative pumpkins that are grown.
Speaker 2: But these are different pumpkins than you shouldn't be thinking
Speaker 2: about taking your pumpkin and making a pumpkin pie out
Speaker 2: of it, is what I'm trying to just learn that
Speaker 2: right now. Okay, I never realized that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so the jack o lanterns that we buy to
Speaker 4: actually carve and decorate and things like that generally are
Speaker 4: not welcomed by us. I do know some folks have
Speaker 4: gone ahead and made pumpkin soup out of it. I'm
Speaker 4: not quite sure how well that turned out for them,
Speaker 4: but yeah, there there's a large variety obviously, and some
Speaker 4: of them just are not preferable for us.
Speaker 2: Okay, So so what can people You must have a website.
Speaker 2: I assume that people can go now and look up.
Speaker 2: Give me the website first of all.
Speaker 4: So it's pumpkins four pigs dot org.
Speaker 2: Okay, and that will folks. I assume a list of
Speaker 2: locations that they can get in contact with and if
Speaker 2: they want to bring their pumpkin if it's convenient. These
Speaker 2: these folks who will accept the pumpkins and they they
Speaker 2: will take them to farms or are you bringing Are
Speaker 2: you going to give people a list of farms in
Speaker 2: their area that they can drink, can bring their their
Speaker 2: their pumpkins too. How does this work physically?
Speaker 4: Yeahstically, yeah, So go to our website Pumpkins the pigs
Speaker 4: dot org. Click on the button at the top that
Speaker 4: says donate food and you will be given a search
Speaker 4: function and you can select however you want to search.
Speaker 4: You could select by Connecticut and then select the items
Speaker 4: that you have that you want to donate, and I'll
Speaker 4: come back with a list that's near you and then
Speaker 4: you can decide you know which ones are the best
Speaker 4: locations for you, and just follow their instructions. They will
Speaker 4: tell you where to drop it off, when you can
Speaker 4: drop it off. If you need to call them ahead
Speaker 4: of time, they'll let you know whether or not you
Speaker 4: could feed the animals or not if they have any.
Speaker 4: So there's a lot of information that you can use
Speaker 4: to make an informed decision about where you would like
Speaker 4: to take you and maybe your neighbors pumpkins out to
Speaker 4: be used for feed instead of going to the landfill.
Speaker 2: Sure soound like a great family activity, particularly if you
Speaker 2: have young children. You can yeah take them to a
Speaker 2: real farm and make a contribution of pumpkins, which ordinarily
Speaker 2: would end up in your trash or in a landfill,
Speaker 2: but they would have some actual, some actual benefit on this.
Speaker 2: This is a great idea. Any idea how much tonnage
Speaker 2: of pumpkins every year, you folks keep out of landfields
Speaker 2: and end up donating them to farms. What's the scope
Speaker 2: of the project, roughly, if you if you have some.
Speaker 4: Estimate, yes, so last year we estimate that we diverted
Speaker 4: eight hundred tons from landfills across the country and that
Speaker 4: prevented three hundred and thirty four tons of CO two
Speaker 4: from being produced in our landfills.
Speaker 2: Well, so there's there's a variety of benefits here, not
Speaker 2: just for the for the pigs as well. Interesting, Jennifer,
Speaker 2: no relation to the football coach of the forty nine
Speaker 2: is in a few years ago, George Seffort. I'm sure
Speaker 2: you've been asked that question before.
Speaker 4: Right, I have no no relation.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, every once in a while I'll ask a
Speaker 2: guest the question, and it's amazing how many peoples, Oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: it was my uncle. He's my uncle. Are Yeah, you'd
Speaker 2: be surprised. Whenever I see a name, I don't ask
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Speaker 2: Please don't blame me for asking. You just never know.
Speaker 2: I'm someone who firmly believes in the concept of six
Speaker 2: degrees of separation. I know you know exactly what I'm
Speaker 2: talking about. Thank you, Jennifer, appreciate it again. Founder of
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Speaker 2: and now'll let you go.
Speaker 4: What's the website Pumpkins four Pigs dot org.
Speaker 2: Perfect, just perfect. I'm gonna check it out myself and
Speaker 2: I have a maybe I'll be even to participate in
Speaker 2: and try to help you out here. Okay, thank you, Thanks,
Speaker 2: thanks Jennifer. When we return, we're going to talk about
Speaker 2: a little closer to home. I'm going to talk with
Speaker 2: Caitlin Kwan. She's a dancer and a dance teacher who
Speaker 2: has created the dance tutorial combination. Brookline debuts murals featuring
Speaker 2: dance tutorials. I will explained you'll have to probably follow
Speaker 2: the bouncing ball on this one, but it's close to
Speaker 2: home and I think you'll enjoy hearing about it if
Speaker 2: you are at all artistically inclined. Back on Night's side
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Speaker 2: Back on night Side, right after this, we're going to
Speaker 2: talk about dance murals. We'll explain.
Speaker 1: Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Speaker 1: to night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2: I want to welcome my next guest, Kaitlin Kwan, on
Speaker 2: this edition of the night Side News Update. Kitlyn Kwan,
Speaker 2: Welcome to Nightside.
Speaker 1: How are you hi?
Speaker 7: I'm doing great, Thank you so much for having me here.
Speaker 2: You're very welcome. So you're a dancer and a dance
Speaker 2: teacher who created the dance tutorial combination. You're you're in
Speaker 2: the you're in Brookline, Massachusetts, as I understand it.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, I am okay, and so.
Speaker 7: Go ahead, one of the dance guyraphers for the Leads
Speaker 7: dance Brookline Dance Murals.
Speaker 2: Right, that's I'm just going to get to that as
Speaker 2: a matter of fact. So explain to us first. First
Speaker 2: of all, what the dance murals are. When we think
Speaker 2: about murals, we normally think about, oh, maybe wall art.
Speaker 5: Or something like that.
Speaker 2: That's not quite what we're talking about here. So why
Speaker 2: did you explain it? Because I got to tell you,
Speaker 2: I don't think I could explain it. You could write
Speaker 2: it here.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 7: So this was a really interesting opportunity because we took
Speaker 7: I corrahed dance routine and Kit Collins, the mastermind of this,
Speaker 7: translated that choreography into a dance diagram onto the sidewalk
Speaker 7: of Brookline and so it's kind of like a bunch
Speaker 7: of silhouetted footsteps that have numbers on it, and so
Speaker 7: you can follow follow the dance routine by just stepping
Speaker 7: on the numbers. And then there's a bunch of imagery
Speaker 7: with how your arm should be and instructions on the
Speaker 7: sidewalk itself telling you how to go about it.
Speaker 2: So this is all on a sidewalk. We're not talking
Speaker 2: about something that you're looking at on the wall. You
Speaker 2: have to look down on the sidewalk to do this.
Speaker 2: And when you do it and you follow the steps,
Speaker 2: you're learning a specific dance or you're just learning the
Speaker 2: sense of dance.
Speaker 7: You're learning the specific.
Speaker 2: Dance, okay. And is the dance something that people would
Speaker 2: know what it is, you know, whether it's the walls
Speaker 2: or something, or is it just the dance that you've
Speaker 2: not just the dance? Is it a dance that you
Speaker 2: have developed. I'm trying to have you explain it to
Speaker 2: me so I can understand it, because of I don't
Speaker 2: understand that maybe my audience might not understand it.
Speaker 7: Yeah. So I coregraphed a ballet routine that incorporates elements
Speaker 7: of grande leegro, which is a lot of big movements
Speaker 7: like kicks, turns, jumps that are normally performed across the
Speaker 7: stage or across the big space, with em as the
Speaker 7: pettit allegro, which are more smaller movements. And so I
Speaker 7: wanted to incorporate turns, picks and jump into a small
Speaker 7: routine on an alleyway.
Speaker 2: So you know, I've learned something already. I thought Petit
Speaker 2: Allegra was like the small little pasta items that you
Speaker 2: get at a restaurant. No, no, no, no, no, I'm
Speaker 2: only kidding. So where is this located in Brookline? Is
Speaker 2: it on just a specific street or as it appear?
Speaker 2: Are you putting it in a number of locations?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 7: For the ones in Brookline, there's two of them. The
Speaker 7: one I choreographed is on Harvard Street in between Prairie
Speaker 7: Fire and Michael's Deli, then that alleyway towards the beer garden,
Speaker 7: and then the second installation of.
Speaker 3: This series is right, it's Smack Dad.
Speaker 7: In Brookline Village where the big clock tower is Okay.
Speaker 2: And is this something that uh is attracting people? When
Speaker 2: did you? When did you create these these sidewalk murals?
Speaker 2: I'm going to use that phrase if that's okay with you?
Speaker 2: When when did you?
Speaker 7: So there was a call for choreographers back in May,
Speaker 7: and I was fortunate enough to get it. Uh We
Speaker 7: Kit and I were able to create something by I
Speaker 7: don't know, maybe like end of July, and then by
Speaker 7: August she was able to complete the mural on the
Speaker 7: sidewalk within like two weeks, and then we were able
Speaker 7: to have this opening grand opening of the mural beginning
Speaker 7: of September, and it was kind of crazy to see
Speaker 7: a lot of people just come and stop by and
Speaker 7: and try it out. You know. I think our goal
Speaker 7: for it was to provide some emotional and visual respite
Speaker 7: for those that kind of passed by the area anyways.
Speaker 7: And I think it also serves as a way to
Speaker 7: bring attention.
Speaker 3: To community resources.
Speaker 7: So one of my inspiration and motivations behind the dance
Speaker 7: was to bring more awareness to the Brookline Senior Center.
Speaker 7: And my dance was also an homage to the seniors there,
Speaker 7: as they are the ones that encouraged me to apply
Speaker 7: for this position too.
Speaker 2: Okay, so now my next question is if this is
Speaker 2: a sidewalk mural, how has it how has it stood
Speaker 2: up with you know, rain and and all of that.
Speaker 2: Sometimes you think about I assume he did not do
Speaker 2: this in crayon or chalk, that it must be there
Speaker 2: in a more permanent uses. Yeah, it's kind of.
Speaker 7: The muralist has this like primer and all the different
Speaker 7: casts for it, and it drives really quickly and it's
Speaker 7: what stood like rain and I'm sure it's going to
Speaker 7: withstand snow as well. But it's been holding up very
Speaker 7: well and I think it's supposed to be there for
Speaker 7: around three to five years. That's songs of Climate Penis.
Speaker 2: Have you been there? Have you watched people come along
Speaker 2: and and attempt to follow the steps?
Speaker 7: Yeah, I've seen dads go on it with their girls.
Speaker 7: I've seen some of my seniors that I teach ballet
Speaker 7: to host on there as well. My friends and family
Speaker 7: also tried it out too. A bunch of people with
Speaker 7: little to as much experience in balad as you can imagine,
Speaker 7: have tried it out, and I think that was kind
Speaker 7: of a way to bring just people together, regardless of
Speaker 7: what your experience in dance is. It was a way
Speaker 7: to bring more accessibility to art. And I think the
Speaker 7: cool thing about public art, and especially with this dance
Speaker 7: diagram here, is that you can bring life to it
Speaker 7: by walking on it, by dancing on it, So that
Speaker 7: kind of brings the more visual aspects into a more
Speaker 7: uh I guess, whole body experience. I think.
Speaker 2: Okay, So my last question is, uh, is this something
Speaker 2: that anyone should try? What my concern is that some
Speaker 2: people might try to imitate some of these dance moves
Speaker 2: on a sidewalk and end up slipping, falling or whatever.
Speaker 2: Or is it something that that people should be careful with.
Speaker 2: You know, obviously you can do it because you're you're
Speaker 2: you're a dancer. But I'm just wondering is there any
Speaker 2: danger involved. I just don't want people to get hurt.
Speaker 2: Tell us what you think. I would say.
Speaker 7: That you know your body the best, and that these
Speaker 7: moves are just mentioned inspire you to maybe do something
Speaker 7: new and try something new. Doesn't have to be a turn.
Speaker 7: You could like modify it to however you want. I
Speaker 7: know a lot of my seniors, seeing as citizens, have
Speaker 7: tried done it, have done it before, and they've been
Speaker 7: able to modify it to their current mobility.
Speaker 2: So it's kind of okay. Well it sounds good. And
Speaker 2: again you said one is near the clock tower in
Speaker 2: Brookline Village and the other is between what location was
Speaker 2: the first location you.
Speaker 7: Mentioned between Prairie Fire and Michael's Deli by Twitter.
Speaker 2: Joy, we know exactly where Michael's Delhi is absolutely kind
Speaker 2: of across the street from that parking lot, if I'm
Speaker 2: not mistaken. Yes, sounds great. Well, look, thank you very
Speaker 2: much for having joined us. It's a difficult thing to explain,
Speaker 2: but I think it did a very good job at it.
Speaker 2: Caitlin Kwan, dancer, dance teacher who created the dance tutorial
Speaker 2: combination in Brookline. Thanks Caitlin, thank you. You're welcome. When
Speaker 2: we get back, we're going to talk about what you'll
Speaker 2: be doing Sunday morning, and that's sleeping in, but it's
Speaker 2: not necessarily all it's cracked up. To me, there are
Speaker 2: a lot of people who not thrilled with the idea
Speaker 2: of falling back and get an extra hour sleep, and
Speaker 2: we're going to talk about that with a doctor who
Speaker 2: is at Brigham and Women's and Harvard Medical School School,
Speaker 2: doctor Charles Zeisler, right after the nine o'clock news, and
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