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Stacy Matthews, one of the og bloggers under the nom
de plume of Sister told you. She's a writer at
RedState dot com. Stacey, how are you, Pete?
Speaker 2: I'm good. It's good to be on with you and
the listeners at one or seven point nine.
Speaker 1: Fum, yeah, I can have you. Have you already changed
your your presets on your radio dial?
Speaker 2: I actually have it on my dial twice, Harry. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you get extra credit for that,
but I like it all right? So where do you
want to start? I see that we have another appeal
to heaven flag scandal that the left is all up
in arms about. I guess, since I guess the guy
did delete the tweet. His name is Zach schermell squirmmel Scrammellimelle.
Speaker 2: From USA Today. Yes, and he did delete his original tweet.
And for your listeners, a couple of years ago, the
New York Times made a big deal about the fact
that Justice Samuel Leito's wife Martha had briefly flown the
American flag inverted in front of her home in DC.
And then they did a follow up report and noted
that she also flew an Appeal to Heaven's flag at
their New Jersey Beach home. And this was a quote
big deal unquote to the New York Times writers because
this meant that because the flags were flown at the
January the events of January sixth, twenty twenty one, it
might mean that Justice Alito couldn't be an impartial justice
on the January sixth cases.
Speaker 1: Because the Appeal to Heaven flag is the white flag
with the pine tree in the middle, and it says
appealed to Heaven, right.
Speaker 2: It's also I think the actual name is the pine
Tree flag, but it's also known as the Appeal to
Heaven flag. And it's kind of like, you know, how
conservatives were treated when the guests and flag was being
flown a lot at tea party, rallies and whatnot, that
was treated by the media as a symbol of racism.
So that's forward a couple of years and we have
another incident involving the Appeal to Heaven's flag. This time
someone at the Department of Education has it hanging outside
of his office door and it was apparently spotted by
someone in DC in the USA today said it was
a symbol of Christian nationalism.
Speaker 1: Now, this flag originates actually from George Washington, I believe,
had this flag commission and and the phrase appeal to
Heaven actually originates from the political philosophy of John Locke
in his Second Treatise on Government, and he used the
term to describe the right of revolution, the idea that
when a government doesn't protect the natural rights of its
people and no earthly authority exists to help address that,
then people have the liberty to appeal to God for justice,
and that means, yes, taking up arms against unjust rule.
So and that that does connect to you know, the
nation and Christianity in some regards. So maybe it is
a Christian nationalist flag. I don't understand like these people
who don't know anything about our history, and and that
we are a you know, a creedle society here in America.
And like because they don't know it, they think that
they know what the flag means.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: And and these these are reporters that ostensibly are supposed
to be informing us about stuff. It's just amazing, right.
Speaker 2: Well, And the kind of interesting thing about this is
that one of the things in the New York Times reporting,
and it might have even been in the USA Today
report as well, I can't remember, but they both have
claimed that the flag fell into obscurity for about sixty years,
which wasn't true because there was a state building in California,
San Francisco that flew the flag for decades until the
New York Times report came out and then they decided
to take it down.
Speaker 1: I think, was it like San Francisco City Hall or something.
Speaker 2: Right, the story was, it's a couple of years old.
But it's just, you know, we're at the point now where,
you know, anybody that has carried the American flag or
flies the American flag, it's going to be accused of
being a co conspirator parjicuary because you know that flag
was also fled, not just inverted, but you know, the
actual upright flag was flown, you know, during the events
of January sixth, So I have neighbors to it or
downs that maybe I should to the right and the insurrection.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And then there was like there was some polling
or some strategy memo that Democrats were talking about a
couple of weeks ago. They were like, you know, that's
about patriotism and how the Republicans have stolen this patriotism
position from us, and they're not the only patriots. Like whoa, whoa, whoa.
Nobody can steal your patriotism from you, you know, like
you guys surrendered that on your own by being afraid
when you like we saw these reports about oh my gosh,
I saw a truck driving with the American flag, you know,
attached to the roof, and oh my gosh, this is
so unsettling, Like you guys have done that on your own,
Like right.
Speaker 2: I mean, nobody owns the American flag. It belongs to
all the people. And I remember after nine to eleven happened,
you know, there were reports that people the Democrats were
were not wanting to fly the American flag in their
neighborhood because they didn't want to be associated with the
Bush administration, because the Bush administration was, you know, scouting
patriotism for their actions and for standing firm against terrorism.
After what happened on nine to eleven, and there was
and after Obama was elected, there were reports and I
believe there was a report in the News Observer about
this where they talked about people in Raleigh and that
area Democrats were proud to fly the flag again because
we had a Democrat president. This is crazy. You fly
the flag no matter who the president is. The president
isn't representative of the flag. The flag is for the people.
And you know whether or not the president is going
by what he should go by in terms of the
Constitution and honoring American principles. The flag belongs to the
American people and what it represents, it represents regardless of
who is in office.
Speaker 1: You mentioned nine to eleven there. You had a piece
also at RedState dot com titled it really shouldn't be
this hard to call out evil for what it is.
And you've covered this since nine to eleven. You know,
you refer to it as Islamic terrorism. Islami fascism, even
as the woke left and their politically correct media allies
have tried to cancel those of a similar mindset over
so called Islamophobia, which I reject that term. I'm now
just in full out rejection of this term because that
it indicates an irrational fear of Islam. And it's not
an irrational fear. It's completely rational in my mind. Like
I'm looking at fourteen hundred years of existence and there's
a pattern, so it's not irrational in my mind.
Speaker 2: Right. Well, you know, like I said in the piece
I wrote at Redsday dot com about this yesterday, you know,
Islamophobia apparently means being an awful person because you're able
to recognize it. While not all terrorrists attack the world
are committed by islamo fasctist, Islam aligned terror organizations like
ISIS remain the most prolific, pervasive, and deadly. This is documented.
This is not Stacy Matthews or Pete Callen or just
that's not our opinion. It's it's the facts.
Speaker 1: It's just the facts, right, which makes it all the
more troubling when you see, you know, what we have
been seeing now with the latest uh you know, massacre
at Bandai Beach in Australia, and it seems like there's
a lot there are just a lot of people that
are having a difficult time, uh, just calling out evil
for what it is and uh and then I see
what Australia's leaders they're like, oh, with the answer here
is more gun control. It's like, well, you know what,
maybe maybe you shouldn't have allowed all of the Jew
hatred protests and such for the last two years, and
you know, the vandalism of synagogues and such like, maybe
you should have done something to address this when you
had hundreds of people in front of the Sydney Opera
House saying we asked the Jews within forty eight hours
of the October seventh massacre, maybe that was the time
to do something right.
Speaker 2: Well, Pete, yes, all this. You know, islamas Lama fascism
is a worldwide thing. But the thing that's troubling as
far as America is concerned is we're seeing it with
increasing frequency here within our borders. You know, we've had
multiple attacks this year alone. There was there was the
one on New Year's Eve in Louisiana that was done
by a man who was inspired by isis you know,
of course, we had the shooting of the two National
Guard members by the Afghan quote unquote refugee, So that's
it's troubling that it's happening worldwide. We have some control
over what happens here in our country, but we have
to have leaders in both parties who are not only
willing to call it out, but who are also willing
to take action to combat it with more than just words.
Speaker 1: Stacy Matthews, you can read her work at RedState dot com.
We have reach the break here, so Stacy, we're gonna
let you go. I do appreciate you making time for
us as always. God bless you, and Merry Christmas to
you and your family.
Speaker 2: Merry Christmas and happy to know you're to you guys, Pete,
thank you all right.
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as they make the media landscape more transparent. Douglas Murray
has a piece at City Journal. Citydesh journal dot org
is the website headlined the massacre at Bandai Beach was inevitable,
you know, and he talked about, you know, chanting gas
the Jews outside the Sydney Opera House. Two days after
Hamas and other Palestinians invaded Israel, slaughter twelve hundred people
took another two hundred and fifty hostage the Australian authorities
did not take any meaningful action regarding that protest, no
more than they chose to take action against the numberless
protests in major Australian cities since October twenty twenty three,
where protesters have chanted globalize the Intifada and much more so.
Here's one of the other things too, these chants like
the West is trying to grapple with this, Like, well,
there is freedom of religion, it's free speech and all
of that. But there's a fellow named the Imam of Peace.
He's Muslim, and he's like, if you are espousing a
theology that calls for my death, that's incitement to violence,
and I'm going to remove you from my society. That's like,
that's the line. It should be pretty clear when you
say globalize the Intifada, that's that's what we are seeing.
It means taking the violence against Jews and spreading it
all over the globe. In fact, let me see here
I've got.
Speaker 2: This is.
Speaker 1: Sharks Zada. He is a Sufi teacher. He's I guess Persian,
and he took to the Twitter machine and he says
it's a time for a tough conversation my fellow Muslims.
Speaker 3: Whenever a Muslim does a boom boom or pew pew act,
and every Muslim's reaction is he doesn't represent us, he's
not Muslim. We wash our hands from him. Your first
reaction might be to say, wow, that's good, right. It's
better that they say that than to support such a
thing God forbid. But here's why, I think, ultimately that's
actually not the right sentiment. It's a little bit like
saying you're colorblind when it comes to race. Sure, I
prefer that you say that then to say I'm a racist,
But ultimately you're kind of not getting at what we
really need to do, which is address the issue. So
whenever Muslims say this person doesn't represent us xyz, it
kind of doesn't work anymore because it's happening so often
that it does represent us in a way. If a
Mormon or a Jane or a follower of some religion
where they truly don't do this type of stuff went
out and did something like, for example, the guy who
shot Charlie Kirk, I think he was Mormon. If Mormons
say he doesn't represent us, I think everyone would say, yeah,
that sounds about right. He doesn't represent you. But when
the whole world has massive airports security, and there are
ballards in European streets everywhere because people will run you
over with a car, and when Christmas markets are getting
canceled or shut down or curtailed, or when there's all
kinds of security to get into subway stations or go
all over the world, we're everywhere in the world. People
are accustomed to this security rigamarole, these random checks, because
there are so many acts perpetrated by people of Muslim backgrounds,
it no longer convinces anyone or gets anywhere or gets
anything done to say, oh, he doesn't represent us, I
wash my hands of him. At some point we have
to say, actually, that person does represent us. Here represents
the worst of us. He represents something reprehensible in us,
something that we despise. But when you just say, oh,
he doesn't represent us, he's not one of us. That
doesn't really represent us, no one really believes that anymore.
It's time for us to say, actually, unfortunately, these people
do represent us, and we need to have some serious
internal dialogue, some serious internal policing to prevent these types
of things. Those two cowards who did that act in Australia.
They have family members, they have neighbors, they have community members.
You're telling me that they drifted into the abyss of
extremism and no one around them noticed anything or felt
anything was off, or noticed any weird behaviors like joining
a pew pew club and becoming an expert all of
a sudden. You know, at some point we have to
look in the mirror and say, there's something wrong with us.
Too much extremism, too much rhetoric that leads to awful events,
is normalized. Too much of this stuff just gets a pass,
gets a blind eye. There are too many extremists running
among us in our communities that we enable or we ignore,
or we turn our way from. We can no longer
turn a blind eye when we say they don't represent us.
No one really believes that anymore. So whatever.
Speaker 1: Then, See, that's the problem, right because now since you know,
well it even pre dates nine to eleven, But since
nine to eleven, like, yeah, nobody, nobody can look at
the course of events in the recent you know, three
decades and think that this doesn't represent a percentage of Muslims.
And that's a problem because people stop believing I think
he's exactly right, Like people stop believing it, Like I'm
not so sure. Why does this keep happening? And he
talks about all of these events all over the world, right,
I mentioned this yesterday Dar al Islam the land of Islam,
and then there's the land of war, and that's it.
And so the areas that they control, it's always they're
always in border fights because it's a constant, you know,
advancing of the front lines. Take more, you know, for
Islam becomes part of your territory, and then you move
on to the next. And that's been It's an expansionist,
colonizing ideology, and it has been from the very beginning.
Well I take that back, the very beginning when they
didn't have the army and the number. Then it was
a very peaceful coexistence kind of thing. And then the
vibe all shifted when they got a lot of money
and they got soldiers. But ever since then, it's kind
of been their jam.
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Douglas Murray writing at The City Journal about the Bondai
Beach massacre from the Weekend, calling out the Australian authorities
that took no meaningful action regarding any of the protests
or even the violence that's been occurring against Jews in
Australia since October twenty twenty three. Also, it's not that
it's not to say that the Australian government are free
speech absolutists. They are not. Nor does Australia have an
equivalent of the First Amendment, which strictly protects free speech
even up to the point of incitement. On the contrary,
the Australian authorities are among the toughest in the world
when it comes to policing speech. Just this past June,
Australia barred and Israeli named Hillel Fold from coming into
the country. Fuld is a pro israel activist whose brother
Ari was stabbed to death by a jihadish terrorist in
twenty eighteen. Ari Fold was a hero in his life
and in his final moments when taking on the terrorist,
he saved many more lives. But the Australian authorities were
persuaded that his brother could cause a risk to health,
safety or good order in Australia, and so he was
barred from entry. Think about that a man whose brother
was killed by a terrorist could not enter Australia because
he could potentially alert people to the threat of Islami terrorism,
which could in itself cause public disorder. Again suicidal empathy.
Summer of twenty twenty four. Douglas Murray said he ran
into this as well. He got a letter warning him
about the terms of his visit. They did grant him
the right to speak in Australia, but they made it clear,
he says, that if I say anything or was even
reported as having said anything, anything at all, which could
cause community tensions, which is a supremely vague concept, then
he says, I would instantly have my visa revoked and
be removed from the country. Now, compare and contrast the
Australian model there with Douglas Murray coming in to talk
about the October seventh massacre, right to talk about Israel
and the war, and they say, if you say anything
that causes any kind of community tensions, you're out. Contrast
that with these foreign students that are in America chanting
and you know, death to the Jews or globalize the
Intifada from the river to the sea right, And what
do we get in America. We get half the country
saying let them speak, let them chant, let them set
up their tentive faddas, let them you know, shut down libraries,
intimidate students. Maybe, okay, some beatings may occur as well.
Vandalism definitely in Australia. They're like, you say anything, you're out.
We can't even get rid of that guy. What's his face?
Uh Mackmood Khalil. He says this is stand in modern Australia.
Yet calls for jihad and intifada and gasing and more
have been tolerated and have gone unpunished. During the last
two years. Synagogues and other Jewish sites in Australia have
been repeatedly assaulted. In December twenty twenty four, so a
year ago, a Melbourne synagogue was firebombed. Jewish businesses have
been attacked and Jews have been the targets of constant harassment.
I saw somebody posted a photo of a sign on
a door at a bagel shop I believe in Bondai
Beach in Sydney, at the beach there owned by a
Jewish family, and they were like, we can no longer
guarantee the safety of our employees or customers, and so
they closed, like forever they shut down. They have no
confidence in the government under which they live. Then this
past weekend came the terrorist attack on Bandai Beach in Sydney,
it's the most serious terrorist attack in that nation's history.
He goes on to say later in this piece, what
other group would expect to be treated like this?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: In twenty nineteen, for example, there was a terrible attack
on a mosque in christ Church, New Zealand. Remember that alone, gunman.
It was a vicious, appalling attack. Outpourings of sympathy issued
from all communities. Imagine for a moment that there had
not been. Imagine that immediately after that attack there had
been huge crowds of Australians outside the Sydney Opera House
calling for Muslims or Arabs to be guessed. Do you
think the Australian authorities would have taken that lightly? Does
anybody think that if there had been anti Muslim or
an Arab demonstrations on the streets every week for two
years following that attack, expressly celebrating the attack, calling for
it to happen again, do we believe does anybody think
the Australian authorities would have stood by or placated that mob.
To ask the question is to answer it, of course not.
Speaker 2: So.
Speaker 1: Jews are asking, well, where will we be safe? Jews
in Australia, New York right. If they're in Israel, they're
going to get attacked. If they're outside Israel, they're going
to get attacked. He says, the problem has been in
plain sight all along. It's shameful that so many people
in positions of power decided to metaphorically shoot the messengers
while all the time clearing a path for the real
life shooters to take aim and fire.
Speaker 2: Again.
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So the Washington Free Beacon, which is a national treasure,
a piece by Scott Johnson. Headline. Yes, elan Omar married
her brother. So this story has been floating around for years.
Minnesota's fifth district representative illan Omar. Her district obviously the
center of gravity in the massive fraud scandal involving all
of these Somalians. Is it Somalians or Somali's I've seen
I've seen both, so I think I think the people
are called Somalians, but something from Somalia would be Somali.
I think that's I think that's what it is. Anyway.
So her brother Ahmed Nur said Elmi. I'm gonna call
him Elmi from now on, all Right, that's the key here.
And apparently this report it's like apparently they tried to
extract him out of a gay lifestyle and get him
to America or something like. That's part of this story too,
But I'm not going to spend any time on that
because it doesn't matter to me. What matters to me
is whether or not she committed immigration fraud. Johnson says,
I started writing about Omar for power Line, the website
to which I'm an original contributor, back in August of
twenty sixteen, when she defeated twenty two term incumbent and
feminist heroine Phyllis Khan in the Democrat Farmer Labor Primary,
which is the Democrat party up there for a seat
in the Minnesota state Legislature. A reader had directed me
to a post on a message board called Somali Spot,
which has since been removed from the Internet. It asserted
that Omar had married her husband been Ahmed Hersey, the
father of her children, that she had married Hersey in
two thousand and two, but that she had then married
her brother Elmy in two thousand and nine. Her campaign
website advertised Hersey as her husband and made no mention
of Elmy. Okay, so Elmy's the brother, Hersey's the husband,
but Elmy's also kind of the husband here, all right.
I checked out the Somali spots story online through the
Minnesota official marriage system. Put in her name. I found
the two marriage licenses cited in the Somali spot post
and checked it. Checked out. The site reflected her two
thousand and two marriage to Hersey and the two thousand
and nine marriage to Elmy. As it turned out, Hersey
and Omar had only applied for a marriage license in
two thousand and two but never followed through with a
league marriage. Citing the Somali spot post and online marriage information,
I contacted Omar's campaign got a response from criminal defense
attorney Jean Brandle. I had seen her in court representing
one of the six Somali defendants who pleaded guilty in
the twenty sixteen ISIS terrorism case. Anyway, the attorney's message
was a classic non response response, calling me a bigot,
and said I should direct further questions to her rather
than the campaign spokesperson that I had originally called. She
seemed to think that she could scare me off when
I directed my questions to her, as she told me to.
She then ignored me. My post on this story slowly
generated a huge controversy that the Minnesota Star Tribune eventually covered.
I got a call from the reporter, Patrick Kulikin, who
told me that he was writing a story. And then
the campaign denied that Elmy is elin Omar's brother, and
so I asked him, like, who do they say he is?
And the reporter said, they won't tell me. They won't
tell me about Elmy. The campaign would not make either
Omar or her husband available for comment. They sent out
a statement saying, your baseless, absurd rumors, let me be clear,
they're categorically false. He goes on to say. In twenty nineteen,
the state Campaign Finance Board released its investigative file on
her twenty sixteen campaign finance violations, and among them were
her twenty fourteen and twenty fifteen tax returns that were
filed jointly with Hersey whom she had never legally married
while she was still legally married to Elmy, the brother.
Omar and Elmy's two thousand and nine marriage license, by
the way, had been signed by a Christian pastor named
Willisia Harris. Why would Ilan Omar, a Muslim, get married
by a Christian? In twenty nineteen, a three thousand word
page one story in the Minnesota Star Tribune revisited the issue.
Their story proves beyond a reasonable doubt that Omar married
her brother for some fraudulent purpose. Elmy is Omar's brother.
Omar entered the US in nineteen ninety five as a
member fraudulently so of the Omar family, which was granted
asylum in the US. The rest of Omar's genetic family,
the Elmy family, was granted asylum in the United Kingdom.
Social media posts throughout the years show Omar and her
siblings in both the US and the UK referring to
each other and to their father. This is not difficult
to track down. The historian Dominic Green looked at the
documents and arrived at the same conclusion for a piece
at the Spectator. By the way, quick note, there is
no statute of limitations on immigration fraud. Just a heads up.
Oh and Tom Holman is aware of the story. All right,
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