WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.600 --> 00:00:04.759 Welcome back to Eve's Sports Radio. I mean, what a laugh, 2 00:00:04.839 --> 00:00:08.439 what a day, beautiful day. Outside of course it's Wednesday. 3 00:00:09.080 --> 00:00:12.199 I do believe it's June fourth, twenty twenty five. But 4 00:00:12.279 --> 00:00:16.079 you won't know not to trust me every day most 5 00:00:16.120 --> 00:00:18.600 of the time, but not all the time. But yes, 6 00:00:18.640 --> 00:00:22.320 it is June the fourth, twenty twenty five. Beautiful morning. 7 00:00:22.280 --> 00:00:24.879 I hope everyone's gotten up and gotten to work. I've 8 00:00:24.879 --> 00:00:27.760 got a fantastic showing store for you. Of course, this 9 00:00:27.960 --> 00:00:31.640 is Eve Sports Radio. I am the brand. The phone 10 00:00:31.719 --> 00:00:35.200 number is five zero two five seven one seventy nine hundred. 11 00:00:35.640 --> 00:00:40.640 We've got Shannon behind the Glass sports Talk seven ninety KRD. 12 00:00:40.759 --> 00:00:42.679 I was in the office yesterday, had to cut a 13 00:00:42.719 --> 00:00:45.240 commercial for Court, first time I'd been in in a while. 14 00:00:45.240 --> 00:00:47.560 I was looking for you, Shannon. I was looking for you. 15 00:00:48.200 --> 00:00:51.119 I got Anthony on another line. Anthony, welcome back to 16 00:00:51.159 --> 00:00:53.600 the show. How are you now? 17 00:00:53.679 --> 00:00:55.880 I'm doing fantastic this morning. How about yourself? 18 00:00:56.600 --> 00:00:58.679 Well, Anthony, I was at the studio yesterday and I 19 00:00:58.719 --> 00:01:01.719 was looking for Shannon, and somebody said he had slipped 20 00:01:01.759 --> 00:01:03.799 out the back door. Shannon, Was that true? Now? 21 00:01:03.960 --> 00:01:05.560 Come on, I'm not hard to find. You know where 22 00:01:05.560 --> 00:01:08.480 I'm at I'm sitting in the same studio every day. 23 00:01:08.480 --> 00:01:10.359 You know, I'm not hard to find. 24 00:01:10.959 --> 00:01:12.599 I don't know how I missed you. Gusta and I 25 00:01:12.599 --> 00:01:15.439 were both running late, Shannon, we were both running late, 26 00:01:15.519 --> 00:01:18.000 so I rushed in, knocked that commercial, and rushed out. 27 00:01:18.040 --> 00:01:21.079 This golf outing is driving me crazy. You should know. 28 00:01:21.200 --> 00:01:23.519 Do you help Matt with his golf outing at all? 29 00:01:23.799 --> 00:01:26.079 I don't play, but I'm there. Yeah, we did the 30 00:01:26.120 --> 00:01:28.439 show from there, and we set up as a hole, 31 00:01:28.519 --> 00:01:31.000 and you know, watch everybody else hit balls into the 32 00:01:31.040 --> 00:01:32.519 lake there should. 33 00:01:32.280 --> 00:01:34.879 Go exactly well, it is what it is. The week 34 00:01:34.920 --> 00:01:38.079 before it is like h I don't know. I never 35 00:01:38.159 --> 00:01:40.439 did pledge, but I guess it would be like pledge week, 36 00:01:40.519 --> 00:01:43.599 the worst week, whatever that means. That's the final week 37 00:01:43.640 --> 00:01:47.120 of the golf outing. Twenty eight teams, four players, five 38 00:01:47.159 --> 00:01:50.599 per team celebrities. I've got Jack Gibings coming, I got 39 00:01:50.680 --> 00:01:52.959 Roger Berkman coming, Scoot to mc cray, coming to Bradford 40 00:01:53.000 --> 00:01:56.000 Smith coming. But I got Jack. I think we're gonna 41 00:01:56.040 --> 00:01:58.359 tie Jack up. Shannon, you better come and help Jack. 42 00:01:59.280 --> 00:02:00.400 You might gain Jack. 43 00:02:01.719 --> 00:02:02.879 I don't think he needs my help. 44 00:02:04.040 --> 00:02:06.159 No, I don't think so either. But we've got a 45 00:02:06.200 --> 00:02:08.199 lot of people coming. We're gonna have a great, great time. 46 00:02:08.240 --> 00:02:15.800 But anyway, guys and Anthony, bottom line, the New York 47 00:02:15.840 --> 00:02:19.599 Knicks are the New York Knicks. That's all I can 48 00:02:19.639 --> 00:02:22.759 say to both of you. For people that are watching 49 00:02:22.800 --> 00:02:28.479 from the outside, it's surprising. All I can tell is 50 00:02:28.520 --> 00:02:31.599 the New York Knicks will always be the New York Knicks, 51 00:02:32.120 --> 00:02:36.919 always and forever. You got to thank you. So, guys, Anthony, 52 00:02:37.560 --> 00:02:39.479 I'm gonna throw it to you quickly, what do you 53 00:02:39.520 --> 00:02:41.479 think of the firing? Then we're gonna listen to Steven 54 00:02:41.560 --> 00:02:45.120 a his explanation and some of the coaches that are 55 00:02:45.479 --> 00:02:48.080 up for the job, because the people don't know the 56 00:02:48.120 --> 00:02:53.719 New York Knicks fired Tom Thibodeaux as their head coach yesterday, 57 00:02:54.520 --> 00:02:57.199 thinking if you listen to all the reasoning, Anthony, that 58 00:02:57.240 --> 00:03:00.840 they should have won a championship with this roster, which 59 00:03:00.879 --> 00:03:03.319 we'll get into, which is comical in a joke, but 60 00:03:03.599 --> 00:03:06.120 it doesn't surprise me. So and then before we go 61 00:03:06.199 --> 00:03:08.879 to letting people listen to some of the talking heads 62 00:03:08.879 --> 00:03:11.960 from New York because it's going crazy. What did you 63 00:03:12.039 --> 00:03:15.120 think when you saw that the New York Knicks had 64 00:03:15.199 --> 00:03:19.439 let Tom Thibodeau go after his fifth year, four playoff runs, 65 00:03:19.680 --> 00:03:22.479 back to back fifty win seasons. What did you think. 66 00:03:24.039 --> 00:03:26.759 I wasn't surprised. I really wasn't. 67 00:03:27.280 --> 00:03:29.680 And I'm not saying that any knock to Thibodau because 68 00:03:29.680 --> 00:03:31.960 I think Thibodeau knocks checked up all the. 69 00:03:31.919 --> 00:03:34.240 Boxes that you could ask for any coach, especially in 70 00:03:34.280 --> 00:03:38.240 such a short time span. Being as a franchise, everyone. 71 00:03:37.960 --> 00:03:40.680 Looks at the Knicks as such a successful franchise, like 72 00:03:40.680 --> 00:03:44.360 the Celtics and the Lakers Miami Heat, and I hate 73 00:03:44.360 --> 00:03:45.560 to say it, the. 74 00:03:45.599 --> 00:03:47.800 Knicks franchise, in my opinion, is not that great. 75 00:03:48.240 --> 00:03:51.039 They haven't been good in a very long time. They've 76 00:03:51.120 --> 00:03:55.280 underachieved pretty much every season probably since the eighties and nineties. 77 00:03:56.199 --> 00:03:58.960 Since two thousand and Dolle, the Knicks haven't achieved anything. 78 00:03:59.439 --> 00:04:01.319 This is their first time in the Eastern Conference Final 79 00:04:01.319 --> 00:04:05.080 in twenty five years, So you know, I know, I 80 00:04:05.080 --> 00:04:07.199 always debate and talk with people all the time. They're like, Oh, 81 00:04:07.199 --> 00:04:08.479 the Knicks is a great franchise. 82 00:04:08.560 --> 00:04:11.159 Not really. They've had good players. 83 00:04:11.280 --> 00:04:14.039 I don't think it's the greatest great franchise. They're not 84 00:04:14.120 --> 00:04:16.519 sitting there with a million different banners in the Raptors. 85 00:04:16.600 --> 00:04:18.720 Even in the last two decades. 86 00:04:18.839 --> 00:04:21.040 You can say the Celtics and the Lakers, the Miami 87 00:04:21.040 --> 00:04:23.079 Heat have all won championships within the last ten to 88 00:04:23.120 --> 00:04:26.879 fifteen to twenty years. Knicks have not Knicks time you 89 00:04:26.920 --> 00:04:29.600 made to the Eastern Conference Finals, which is even worse 90 00:04:29.639 --> 00:04:31.160 than that. It's not like you get there and you 91 00:04:31.160 --> 00:04:33.759 don't win. You know, it's happened to Boston, it's happened 92 00:04:33.759 --> 00:04:36.079 to La it's happened to Miami, even a couple of 93 00:04:36.079 --> 00:04:38.000 other noble teams that are starting to make their mark 94 00:04:38.040 --> 00:04:40.560 in the NBA. But not the Knicks one time in 95 00:04:40.680 --> 00:04:41.519 twenty five years, and you. 96 00:04:41.480 --> 00:04:44.199 Part yourself a great franchise. It's just that the numbers 97 00:04:44.240 --> 00:04:44.839 don't add up. 98 00:04:45.199 --> 00:04:46.480 And for all the things that he did for the 99 00:04:46.560 --> 00:04:49.240 Knicks over that season, realistically, for them to think that 100 00:04:49.240 --> 00:04:51.240 the Knicks were really gonna win the championship this year 101 00:04:51.319 --> 00:04:52.959 is kind of a joke because everyone knew they weren't 102 00:04:52.959 --> 00:04:54.560 gonna win. I'm surprised they even made it to the 103 00:04:54.600 --> 00:05:05.600 Easton Conference Finals. So with that being said, I just. 104 00:05:05.959 --> 00:05:08.360 No no one thought Anthony. Everybody thought the Celtics would 105 00:05:08.360 --> 00:05:11.959 sweep them. No one thought that they would get through 106 00:05:12.000 --> 00:05:19.240 the Celtics. No one and now here we are no. 107 00:05:19.800 --> 00:05:22.680 I agree, I just even Cleveland. 108 00:05:23.000 --> 00:05:25.199 Everyone thought either Cleveland or Boston was gonna be one 109 00:05:25.199 --> 00:05:25.759 of the favorites. 110 00:05:26.800 --> 00:05:27.959 I mean obviously, no one that really. 111 00:05:28.000 --> 00:05:29.839 I don't even know if anyone really expected the Pacers 112 00:05:29.879 --> 00:05:30.399 to make it this. 113 00:05:30.399 --> 00:05:33.879 Far, well, no one did. No one thought it would 114 00:05:33.879 --> 00:05:36.680 be the Knicks and the Pacers, either team. But let's 115 00:05:36.800 --> 00:05:39.360 just throw it to Shannon. We're gonna listen to stephen 116 00:05:39.399 --> 00:05:42.439 A for about a minute and let him explain to 117 00:05:42.480 --> 00:05:44.519 you his frustrations and what they think. He's a New 118 00:05:44.560 --> 00:05:47.560 York Knick fan. I'm not a Knick fan. Anthey, you're correct. 119 00:05:47.600 --> 00:05:52.040 The Knicks have not won a championship since nineteen seventy three. 120 00:05:52.240 --> 00:05:56.360 Anthony I was thirteen years old, Heady, I was thirteen 121 00:05:56.439 --> 00:06:00.319 years old last time the Knicks won a championship. They're 122 00:06:00.319 --> 00:06:03.639 not a great franchise. No they're not. They were a 123 00:06:03.680 --> 00:06:06.639 great franchise, but they have not been here. One hundred 124 00:06:06.639 --> 00:06:10.560 percent correct on that, one hundred percent correct. So Shannon, 125 00:06:10.639 --> 00:06:13.560 let's listen to Steven A and we'll get back. We've 126 00:06:13.600 --> 00:06:16.480 got a little Jayleen Brunson will listen to about the 127 00:06:16.480 --> 00:06:18.800 firing of Thibodeau, and then I'm going to give you 128 00:06:18.879 --> 00:06:20.839 all my comments. Where do you want me to start? 129 00:06:20.920 --> 00:06:23.519 You take me through and I answer you questions. Where 130 00:06:23.519 --> 00:06:25.639 do you want me to start? There's so many Where 131 00:06:25.680 --> 00:06:26.720 do you want me to start? 132 00:06:28.720 --> 00:06:31.360 No, I guess the best thing is, obviously everyone wants 133 00:06:31.399 --> 00:06:33.879 to know who calls Thibodeau to lose his job, because 134 00:06:34.959 --> 00:06:36.639 there's got to be something behind the scenes that we 135 00:06:36.720 --> 00:06:39.399 don't know about for someone with all those accolades in 136 00:06:39.439 --> 00:06:42.279 the last five years to just all of a sudden 137 00:06:42.399 --> 00:06:43.920 lose a job and I do get into the NBA. 138 00:06:44.000 --> 00:06:47.439 The NBA, it does happen in those senses, but they 139 00:06:47.519 --> 00:06:51.600 usually happen when coaches don't achieve expectations, or they're not 140 00:06:51.639 --> 00:06:54.360 getting to a certain landmark, or players are having disagreements 141 00:06:54.399 --> 00:06:56.879 with the coach. Jalen Brunton had his interview and even 142 00:06:56.920 --> 00:06:59.480 said that he thought Thibodau was the guy for him. 143 00:07:00.079 --> 00:07:04.759 Yeah, well, you know, since you brought that up, let's 144 00:07:04.839 --> 00:07:07.439 just play Jalen so that we can finish it and 145 00:07:07.480 --> 00:07:10.879 then I'll answer your questions. If you're ready, Shannon, please 146 00:07:10.959 --> 00:07:14.759 play the Jalen interview when the reporters asking him does 147 00:07:14.759 --> 00:07:17.480 he think that Tom Thibodeau is the man for the job? 148 00:07:18.279 --> 00:07:21.279 Jalen, you know, in terms of vote, Katcher said, you know, 149 00:07:21.360 --> 00:07:23.800 you make the moves to win. There are obviously a 150 00:07:23.839 --> 00:07:27.360 lot of big moves this offseason. How confident are you 151 00:07:27.480 --> 00:07:30.160 that this group has enough to take that next step? 152 00:07:30.279 --> 00:07:40.839 And uh the most confidence over confident? Seriously, I don't 153 00:07:41.879 --> 00:07:47.360 there's not an ounce of any type of doubt that 154 00:07:47.360 --> 00:07:48.519 I'm not confident with this group. 155 00:07:49.600 --> 00:07:52.800 Jentlem when you talked about the confidence, obviously, I feel 156 00:07:52.839 --> 00:07:57.079 like nobody takes more criticism than Tom, and this team 157 00:07:57.120 --> 00:08:00.839 obviously has turned around during his tenure. Do you kind 158 00:08:00.839 --> 00:08:03.680 of feel that going forward he's the same guy? Lift 159 00:08:03.680 --> 00:08:05.480 you guys the rest of the way that next. 160 00:08:05.439 --> 00:08:08.079 Level this is? Is that a real question right now? 161 00:08:10.480 --> 00:08:12.120 He just asked me if I believe that if he's 162 00:08:12.439 --> 00:08:13.040 the right guy. 163 00:08:14.000 --> 00:08:19.639 Yes, thanks guys, come on, okay, Anthony and all our 164 00:08:19.639 --> 00:08:24.240 friends listening. You know that was Jalen Brunson speaking to 165 00:08:24.279 --> 00:08:27.079 the reporter saying, do you think that's a true question? Well, yes, 166 00:08:27.199 --> 00:08:30.319 he lost his job. Jalen, it was a true question, 167 00:08:30.920 --> 00:08:34.759 and yes they were going too far. Tom Thibodeaum. So, Anthony, 168 00:08:34.759 --> 00:08:38.639 your first question, it's kind of ironic how those things go. 169 00:08:39.639 --> 00:08:43.879 Sometimes players know, sometimes they don't. I'm going to be 170 00:08:43.879 --> 00:08:46.559 honest with you. I've only been in the NBA. Played 171 00:08:46.559 --> 00:08:49.679 for four and a half five years. I coached for 172 00:08:49.840 --> 00:08:53.759 Oh Golly seven and a half eight years. I scouted 173 00:08:54.559 --> 00:08:57.200 two years with the Utah ja Ass. I've been in 174 00:08:57.240 --> 00:08:58.919 the NBA a long time, made a lot of money. 175 00:08:59.720 --> 00:09:03.000 But the bottom line is the NBA makes no sense, 176 00:09:03.639 --> 00:09:07.200 it never has. But the New York Knicks, Anthony, to 177 00:09:07.240 --> 00:09:13.000 answer your first question, who lost his job? Tom Thibodeau 178 00:09:13.039 --> 00:09:17.639 did because he did it the right way. Let me 179 00:09:17.679 --> 00:09:20.600 answer your question again. You're not gonna hear this from 180 00:09:20.639 --> 00:09:25.200 the talking heads who lost and who is the cause 181 00:09:25.360 --> 00:09:30.480 of him losing his job? Was Tom Thibodau. Because he 182 00:09:30.559 --> 00:09:33.919 did it the right way. That's why you're not going 183 00:09:33.960 --> 00:09:37.200 to hear anything negative from Tom Thibodeau. You're not gonna 184 00:09:37.200 --> 00:09:41.039 have interview at all speaking poorly about the Knicks or 185 00:09:41.080 --> 00:09:45.279 the Knicks players. Tom Thibodau does it the right way, 186 00:09:45.759 --> 00:09:48.360 and that's all there is to it. What does that 187 00:09:48.519 --> 00:09:53.320 do that Rubs management the wrong way and that Rubs 188 00:09:53.399 --> 00:09:57.919 players the wrong way when the coach does it the 189 00:09:58.039 --> 00:10:02.559 right way. So Anthony the person. So we all listen 190 00:10:02.639 --> 00:10:05.159 to all the espns, you're not going to hear. The 191 00:10:05.200 --> 00:10:08.279 person that lost Tom Thibodau's job was Tom Thibodaux. But 192 00:10:08.320 --> 00:10:11.080 because he didn't lose his job, he did it the 193 00:10:11.159 --> 00:10:18.000 right way, management and the players couldn't handle it. Don't 194 00:10:18.039 --> 00:10:21.559 forget that. That's all first and foremost before we get 195 00:10:21.559 --> 00:10:26.320 into all the things. James Dolan. I'll get into James 196 00:10:26.399 --> 00:10:31.679 Dolan after the break. Leon Rose and known Leon. He's 197 00:10:31.720 --> 00:10:35.240 represented a lot of people. He used to represent Tom Thibodeau. 198 00:10:36.159 --> 00:10:38.480 Let me just give it to y'all straight. It's a business. 199 00:10:38.519 --> 00:10:42.799 I know he used to represent Tom Thibodeaux. He's represented 200 00:10:42.879 --> 00:10:48.200 Jalen Brunson before, guys, he represented his dad. I met well. 201 00:10:48.200 --> 00:10:50.480 I already knew Rick from when he was a player 202 00:10:50.519 --> 00:10:53.159 I was coaching. I know Rick really well from Temple. 203 00:10:53.519 --> 00:10:56.120 His dad is a great person. His dad would have 204 00:10:56.159 --> 00:10:58.519 nothing to do with the firing. His dad worked with 205 00:10:58.519 --> 00:11:03.000 Tom Thibodeau before Jalen ever played for them. So let's 206 00:11:03.000 --> 00:11:06.639 just get that part straight. Really really good person. But 207 00:11:06.759 --> 00:11:10.240 I met Rose for the first time with Rick Brunson, 208 00:11:10.480 --> 00:11:16.200 the father and Philadelphia the first time I've ever met 209 00:11:16.799 --> 00:11:21.279 mister Rose. So again when we're sitting here, going how 210 00:11:21.320 --> 00:11:24.519 could this happen? How cowardly this is that you heard 211 00:11:24.559 --> 00:11:27.879 Stephen a what a coward the Knicks work. The only 212 00:11:27.960 --> 00:11:32.399 person that lost his job for himself was Tom Thibodeau. 213 00:11:32.919 --> 00:11:35.679 And he'll do it again because Tom Thibodeau is going 214 00:11:35.720 --> 00:11:38.519 to do it the right way. So we're at seven 215 00:11:38.600 --> 00:11:40.639 nineteen when we come back. There are a lot of 216 00:11:40.679 --> 00:11:43.960 things to talk about an answer with this madness called 217 00:11:44.000 --> 00:11:48.960 the NBA. But I guarantee you when Tom Thibodeaux wants 218 00:11:49.000 --> 00:11:52.879 another job, he will have it. Don't worry about Tom Tibodeau. 219 00:11:53.399 --> 00:11:56.639 He just signed a three year extension last year for 220 00:11:56.720 --> 00:12:00.960 great money. He'll have another job when he wants, and 221 00:12:01.120 --> 00:12:03.240 Tom Timbodau will do it the right way. He was 222 00:12:03.279 --> 00:12:06.559 assistant coach for John Lucas. Tibodau and I used to 223 00:12:06.600 --> 00:12:09.200 just talk about one day, will we ever get our break, 224 00:12:09.320 --> 00:12:11.200 will ever be a head coach? We ever get an 225 00:12:11.200 --> 00:12:15.840 opportunity to sit in that seat all the time like 226 00:12:15.879 --> 00:12:18.200 a brother to me. I mean, just it is what 227 00:12:18.240 --> 00:12:21.000 it is. Everybody in the assistant coaches in the NBA. 228 00:12:21.440 --> 00:12:24.559 Everybody's striving to get to the thirty jobs, Anthony. Everybody 229 00:12:25.559 --> 00:12:27.399 I wasn't able to get there. He was. I was 230 00:12:27.440 --> 00:12:30.039 able to get to my perfect job. The job God 231 00:12:30.080 --> 00:12:33.039 wanted from me was North Carolina, and t loved that place. 232 00:12:33.399 --> 00:12:36.600 Gave me an opportunity to sit in that seat and 233 00:12:36.720 --> 00:12:40.720 make decisions. And guys, I want you to know, only 234 00:12:40.720 --> 00:12:44.000 difference between the college job and the pro jobs, the 235 00:12:44.080 --> 00:12:47.200 high major jobs and the low major jobs, is the 236 00:12:47.200 --> 00:12:50.000 amount of money on the end of your contract. But 237 00:12:50.120 --> 00:12:53.480 the decisions are the same. It's seven twenty. It's e 238 00:12:53.559 --> 00:12:56.440 Sports Radio. Shinnon take us away when we come back. 239 00:12:56.960 --> 00:12:59.440 If the system works for us perfectly, when we come back, 240 00:12:59.440 --> 00:13:01.960 we're gonna get it more of this New York Knicks 241 00:13:02.200 --> 00:13:05.879 and some of the characters that consider themselves that have 242 00:13:05.960 --> 00:13:08.799 titles that work for them, talk to you all in 243 00:13:08.840 --> 00:13:15.919 a minute. Welcome back to the sports Radio seven three guys, girls, 244 00:13:16.360 --> 00:13:18.399 get up out of the bed. It's a beautiful day. 245 00:13:18.480 --> 00:13:22.159 Let the sun hitch in the face, Get on your knee, 246 00:13:22.200 --> 00:13:24.919 and let God know that you appreciate today could be 247 00:13:24.960 --> 00:13:26.720 your last. Just being honest with you, make it the 248 00:13:26.720 --> 00:13:29.799 best one that you can make it again. We've got 249 00:13:29.840 --> 00:13:31.759 people that we want to send our prayers up for. 250 00:13:31.919 --> 00:13:34.240 Of course, Kyby Harrison want you to pray for a 251 00:13:34.320 --> 00:13:37.519 man Cobby, for him to get well, for God to 252 00:13:37.519 --> 00:13:40.679 touch him. But when you've got the ability to do 253 00:13:40.840 --> 00:13:43.879 the things you love, even if you've got the ability 254 00:13:43.919 --> 00:13:46.759 to do the things you don't love, enjoy it and 255 00:13:46.840 --> 00:13:49.120 appreciate it because it's better than a lot of people. 256 00:13:49.799 --> 00:13:53.440 So welcome back to Esports Radio, Anthony. We're talking about 257 00:13:53.480 --> 00:13:55.919 the madness. The world is talking about the New York Knicks, 258 00:13:56.000 --> 00:13:58.320 and they're talking about them in a form of madness, 259 00:13:58.360 --> 00:14:03.120 which is the New York Knicks guys. I mean it's 260 00:14:03.120 --> 00:14:08.799 been nineteen seventy three, Anthony, the last time they were relevant, 261 00:14:09.399 --> 00:14:14.279 Coach Beard Anthony played for the Knicks. I just let 262 00:14:14.320 --> 00:14:18.519 you know how long it's been for the Knicks, guys. 263 00:14:19.399 --> 00:14:21.759 They have been this reason way for a reason, Anthony. 264 00:14:21.799 --> 00:14:24.480 That's all that I can say. So, first and foremost, 265 00:14:24.799 --> 00:14:28.039 Tom Thibodeau is the person that got Tom Thibodeau fired 266 00:14:28.559 --> 00:14:31.440 for all the right reasons because he did it the 267 00:14:31.519 --> 00:14:36.000 right way. And the reporter that asked, when he asked, 268 00:14:36.759 --> 00:14:39.679 Jalen Brunson, do you think he's the one, Jalen said, 269 00:14:39.720 --> 00:14:42.759 are you really asking that question? Yes, Jalen, because you 270 00:14:42.759 --> 00:14:45.440 played for the Knicks and they know who the Knicks are. 271 00:14:46.080 --> 00:14:48.720 So I hate to tell you, the reporter was spot on. 272 00:14:49.240 --> 00:14:51.840 So Anthy, what do you think going from there? What's 273 00:14:51.840 --> 00:14:53.360 the next What do you think is the next question? 274 00:14:53.559 --> 00:14:56.440 People would't want to know about the Knicks? I know, honestly, 275 00:14:56.879 --> 00:14:59.840 I know everything. I know the bowels of Madison Square. 276 00:15:00.159 --> 00:15:03.399 I can take you to every nook and cranny. I mean, 277 00:15:03.519 --> 00:15:05.799 I know I've been in that place, front to back, 278 00:15:05.879 --> 00:15:08.320 back to front with Coach Beard. I can walk through 279 00:15:08.320 --> 00:15:11.200 it in my sleep in the night at dark. Even 280 00:15:11.240 --> 00:15:14.120 when they redid the locker room for Alan Houston's team, 281 00:15:14.399 --> 00:15:16.720 when pat Riley was there, they redid the locker room 282 00:15:16.720 --> 00:15:18.960 for the first time in forever. Anthony, I mean, I 283 00:15:19.000 --> 00:15:21.080 know all about the garden. So what do you need 284 00:15:21.120 --> 00:15:23.320 to know about those Knicks? What do you think people 285 00:15:23.320 --> 00:15:23.759 want to know? 286 00:15:25.360 --> 00:15:28.720 Huh? I just think people want to know that. I mean, 287 00:15:28.720 --> 00:15:32.960 obviously when we heard Steve man interview, and obviously a 288 00:15:33.000 --> 00:15:35.080 couple of other things that we spoke about, is you 289 00:15:35.120 --> 00:15:39.120 know they thought the Knicks was a championship contender team, 290 00:15:39.240 --> 00:15:40.679 and we I just want to go to a short 291 00:15:40.720 --> 00:15:44.720 breakdown of some of the players. They're noble players that played, 292 00:15:45.000 --> 00:15:48.159 even the ones that started. Any person that knows basketball 293 00:15:48.200 --> 00:15:52.600 knows this is not a championship team. It's it's really not. 294 00:15:53.600 --> 00:15:55.440 It's not. 295 00:15:56.600 --> 00:15:58.799 You know you got o Gna Nuby. Obviously he's won 296 00:15:58.840 --> 00:16:02.480 a championship with the Raptors. I is he a good player, Yes, 297 00:16:03.000 --> 00:16:05.159 he's a good piece for your second and third option, 298 00:16:05.240 --> 00:16:05.799 which he was. 299 00:16:06.240 --> 00:16:13.960 Yes, quality players sometimes yes, yes, but he's a quality piece. 300 00:16:14.960 --> 00:16:16.159 Has a lot of work to do to when it 301 00:16:16.159 --> 00:16:20.600 comes to Town to winning a championship. I agree, somebody 302 00:16:20.600 --> 00:16:23.720 has to push him to the level to win a championship. 303 00:16:24.240 --> 00:16:27.519 But he's talented. Oh hees bad files, yes, and all 304 00:16:27.559 --> 00:16:30.120 those things are in growth. When you're trying to play 305 00:16:30.159 --> 00:16:32.960 to win, Anthony, you won't do those things. Just like 306 00:16:33.039 --> 00:16:36.600 Charles Barkley asking directly, you gotta stop doing them stupid files, 307 00:16:36.879 --> 00:16:39.759 and he answered Charles with you're correct. If that is 308 00:16:39.879 --> 00:16:43.559 correct without a doubt. That's all in the winning process. 309 00:16:43.879 --> 00:16:48.840 But o g has won a championship. He's a quality starter. 310 00:16:49.679 --> 00:16:53.799 Towns is not. But he can into Western Conference finals now. 311 00:16:53.879 --> 00:16:56.600 Eastern Conference finals. He's not far away, Anthony. He has 312 00:16:56.639 --> 00:16:58.679 to be talked. That's why I hate that they let 313 00:16:59.559 --> 00:17:01.919 Tipis go. But he's got to be taught. But he 314 00:17:02.000 --> 00:17:03.039 is a quality piece. 315 00:17:03.159 --> 00:17:07.319 Keep going, No, of course, you go through it. You 316 00:17:07.359 --> 00:17:09.759 know you got Josh hart as well. Josh hart Is. 317 00:17:10.640 --> 00:17:13.039 He's a quality player, but he is. He has a 318 00:17:13.039 --> 00:17:13.640 weird role. 319 00:17:13.720 --> 00:17:14.880 He's only six to four. 320 00:17:14.799 --> 00:17:18.720 Two hundred and fifteen pounds, but he practically plays the four. 321 00:17:19.480 --> 00:17:21.920 Yes, he's not a starter. 322 00:17:22.119 --> 00:17:24.640 He's not a starter on the championship team. He can't 323 00:17:24.680 --> 00:17:26.599 be the sixth man. He can be the eighth man, 324 00:17:27.039 --> 00:17:29.440 not the sixth man. If Josh Hartson your top six, 325 00:17:29.480 --> 00:17:32.799 you're not winning one. Keep going, period, point blank. At Andy, 326 00:17:32.839 --> 00:17:35.200 there's nothing else to say. He is an NBA player. 327 00:17:35.359 --> 00:17:37.200 He's gonna make a lot of money. He's better than 328 00:17:37.279 --> 00:17:40.279 Jerry Eves. I want people to understand, but you're doing 329 00:17:40.279 --> 00:17:42.759 about winning an NBA championship. He cannot be his in 330 00:17:42.839 --> 00:17:45.920 your top seven? Next player? Why are you leaving out 331 00:17:45.920 --> 00:17:47.920 the one and only? Why did you not talk about 332 00:17:48.160 --> 00:17:50.720 your boy Brunton. You went from Towns. You went from 333 00:17:50.720 --> 00:17:53.400 o G the third best player to Towns. Who is 334 00:17:53.440 --> 00:17:55.759 the second best player, but you didn't say anthing about 335 00:17:55.799 --> 00:18:02.440 Davion Brunson. Why why, Okay, go ahead. 336 00:18:02.680 --> 00:18:05.119 We all know you're to Jalen Brunton. But you know 337 00:18:05.119 --> 00:18:08.599 what we know, Jalen Brunston is technically their number one 338 00:18:08.680 --> 00:18:11.000 scoring option. But the only reason why I didn't bring 339 00:18:11.079 --> 00:18:11.519 him up. 340 00:18:11.440 --> 00:18:12.960 First is because of that payroll. 341 00:18:13.680 --> 00:18:14.000 Gotcha. 342 00:18:14.279 --> 00:18:15.240 Definitely reason why. 343 00:18:16.119 --> 00:18:17.640 Okay, your way, We'll say keep going. 344 00:18:18.759 --> 00:18:20.680 Obviously, we all know that Jalen Brusklyn took a pay 345 00:18:20.680 --> 00:18:23.000 cut two halfs on these players there to give Nicks 346 00:18:23.000 --> 00:18:25.920 even a slight chance, and I think that's one of 347 00:18:25.920 --> 00:18:28.119 the biggest reasons why he's more upset than anybody else. 348 00:18:28.359 --> 00:18:31.440 If you look on the payroll sallary wise per year, 349 00:18:31.480 --> 00:18:34.359 Karl Anthony town is at forty nine point two million dollars, 350 00:18:35.519 --> 00:18:37.920 then you want to go up Josh Hart at eighteen million, 351 00:18:38.160 --> 00:18:40.799 Michael Bridge is at twenty three point three, and Ogn 352 00:18:40.920 --> 00:18:44.279 Newby's at thirty six point six. Josh Hart, Jalen Brunston 353 00:18:44.319 --> 00:18:47.400 is at twenty four point nine. It's like the fourth 354 00:18:47.480 --> 00:18:49.319 or fifth highest got paid guy on the team to 355 00:18:49.839 --> 00:18:52.200 technically be their number one option guy. 356 00:18:52.799 --> 00:18:55.640 Yes, he's a great person. His dad is a great person. 357 00:18:55.880 --> 00:18:59.839 I want people to understand that the little kid is tough. 358 00:18:59.839 --> 00:19:03.839 I like him, Anthony, but you're not winning a championship 359 00:19:03.839 --> 00:19:07.839 with him. You're leading store score. Never. They were lucky, guys. 360 00:19:07.880 --> 00:19:10.920 Let's be honest. They were lucky to be Boston. Boston's 361 00:19:10.960 --> 00:19:13.720 up twenty the first two games, guys, Boston was up 362 00:19:13.759 --> 00:19:16.319 double digits and for the games and lost them. It's 363 00:19:16.359 --> 00:19:19.799 not gonna happen. For the games they were up double digits. 364 00:19:20.000 --> 00:19:23.599 Two of the games are up twenty, guys. It was 365 00:19:23.680 --> 00:19:27.440 just everything felt right for the Knicks. I love Jalen Brunson. Guys. 366 00:19:27.480 --> 00:19:31.960 Everything about him is quality. I'm telling you, but if 367 00:19:32.000 --> 00:19:36.839 you're talking about winning a world championship, it's not gonna happen. 368 00:19:38.680 --> 00:19:41.119 That's all there is too. So let me give you 369 00:19:41.319 --> 00:19:46.920 people a little experience with this Anthony. In Charlotte, we 370 00:19:46.920 --> 00:19:50.279 were really good. Paul Silas was a very quality coach, 371 00:19:51.720 --> 00:19:55.880 and we had Derek Coleman. Everyone remembers Derek. The first 372 00:19:56.000 --> 00:20:01.359 really high paid NBA player was Derek Coleman. We coached 373 00:20:01.440 --> 00:20:03.400 him with the New Jersey Nets. Paul and I as 374 00:20:03.480 --> 00:20:07.400 assistance to Butch Beard. Paul again, we coached him again. 375 00:20:07.559 --> 00:20:11.039 Charlotte Hornet's Paul was the head coach. I was his assistant, 376 00:20:11.440 --> 00:20:14.680 and we knew for us to go far, Derrick Coleman 377 00:20:14.720 --> 00:20:16.839 had to be our seventh or eighth man. He could 378 00:20:16.920 --> 00:20:20.799 not be in our top six. So what did Bob 379 00:20:20.839 --> 00:20:25.240 Ass and Paul Silas do. We shipped Anthony Mason and 380 00:20:25.359 --> 00:20:28.640 Eddie Jones. Eddie Jones was a great person, guys, people 381 00:20:28.680 --> 00:20:32.680 from Temple telling you, guys, quality people. Cheney did a 382 00:20:32.720 --> 00:20:35.880 super job with those kids. I'm telling you quality. Ann 383 00:20:36.000 --> 00:20:37.759 You were just too young to know him, but I 384 00:20:37.759 --> 00:20:39.759 guarantee you, Aunt, you'd have loved him, and he'd have 385 00:20:39.799 --> 00:20:44.039 loved you. Just good people. We shipped them away and 386 00:20:44.079 --> 00:20:48.640 we brought in mash Burn and PJ. Brown. Everyone knows 387 00:20:48.720 --> 00:20:54.480 Mashburn from Kentucky. Anthony, you talk about meticulous, you talk 388 00:20:54.519 --> 00:21:00.279 about the ultimate professional. That's mash Burn. Without a doubt. 389 00:21:01.200 --> 00:21:05.119 He had his own stretch coach, Anthony, before there were 390 00:21:05.160 --> 00:21:08.359 stretch coaches. He was at the gym. Practice started at 391 00:21:08.359 --> 00:21:11.359 eighty eleven. He was there with me. If he didn't 392 00:21:11.400 --> 00:21:13.319 beat me there, it was a race. We used to laugh. 393 00:21:13.720 --> 00:21:15.559 He was always the first guy in the building with 394 00:21:15.640 --> 00:21:20.240 this stretch coach, stretching two hours before practice, always stayed 395 00:21:20.240 --> 00:21:24.440 after practice, always on the treadmill and knocking around. He's 396 00:21:24.440 --> 00:21:26.880 the one who got me eating bagels, Anthony. I wasn't 397 00:21:26.880 --> 00:21:30.160 a bagel eater until I started Bess with mash Period 398 00:21:30.599 --> 00:21:33.799 raising bagels. We loved them. But we went and got 399 00:21:33.839 --> 00:21:37.240 a quality, a person that could be your leading scorer, 400 00:21:37.680 --> 00:21:40.359 that could take your team a long way. That was 401 00:21:40.359 --> 00:21:43.839