WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.520 --> 00:00:05.559 This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera on 2 00:00:05.639 --> 00:00:10.800 Fox Sports fourteen fifty powered by Nova Insurance Services Insure 3 00:00:10.880 --> 00:00:12.599 your most Prized possessionets. 4 00:00:14.679 --> 00:00:17.559 Hey, welcome back to Iron the Ball here on Fox 5 00:00:17.559 --> 00:00:23.039 Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. You're Blake Eager from 6 00:00:23.239 --> 00:00:25.960 the Southern Arizona Sports Tourism and Film Authority. I'm glad 7 00:00:25.960 --> 00:00:28.000 you know without you where you're at because I can't 8 00:00:28.039 --> 00:00:31.280 say all that stuff. I'd remember my last name, and 9 00:00:31.440 --> 00:00:35.560 we have one true last name, Serrano. I think so 10 00:00:35.600 --> 00:00:40.759 something like that sounded like this. I'm the Mexican. Oh yeah, 11 00:00:40.960 --> 00:00:44.359 definitely not definitely not. Hey, boys, how are you guys? 12 00:00:45.320 --> 00:00:48.719 You're lucky your student one am? I yeah, because we'll 13 00:00:48.759 --> 00:00:51.840 get to that in a second. Because Blake here is 14 00:00:51.880 --> 00:00:54.719 not a student, but he's a fan. And I want 15 00:00:54.719 --> 00:00:56.840 to know. Blake. You don't have to tell me the truth. Well, 16 00:00:57.079 --> 00:00:58.320 I want you to tell me truth. You don't have 17 00:00:58.359 --> 00:01:00.719 to tell me how ever you want to tell me 18 00:01:01.439 --> 00:01:04.680 you have deep pockets there, No, you're going to have 19 00:01:04.719 --> 00:01:08.000 to dig deep deeper if you want to go see basketball. 20 00:01:08.400 --> 00:01:10.159 Yeah it looks that way. I mean, you just shared 21 00:01:10.200 --> 00:01:12.879 that with me. This is surprising it's it's news. I 22 00:01:12.920 --> 00:01:16.599 wasn't expecting to do. Sorry, it's okay. I'm already hanging 23 00:01:16.599 --> 00:01:18.519 on by a thread in my life, so you can 24 00:01:18.599 --> 00:01:21.599 just throw it in there. Less lot of burger. Yeah, yeah, 25 00:01:21.599 --> 00:01:24.239 you're right. Oh yeah, maybe go from the double to 26 00:01:24.280 --> 00:01:26.719 the single. Yeah, there you go. That's how we uh yeah. 27 00:01:26.760 --> 00:01:30.359 So I'm trying to in all this conversation, I'm trying 28 00:01:30.400 --> 00:01:32.439 to say that the U of A is asking their 29 00:01:32.879 --> 00:01:35.959 their loyal ticket holders, and a lot of these different 30 00:01:35.959 --> 00:01:38.719 sports they're going to be attached to surcharge kind of 31 00:01:38.959 --> 00:01:40.799 I don't know what they called it, searcharge to the 32 00:01:40.799 --> 00:01:43.719 tickets that are buying fifty to twenty five dollars per 33 00:01:43.799 --> 00:01:49.400 ticket to help with the nil effort. You like it? 34 00:01:50.040 --> 00:01:50.840 Are you okay with it? 35 00:01:51.319 --> 00:01:53.400 I mean, it's it's so brand new to me right 36 00:01:53.439 --> 00:01:55.719 now that I have to I can't wrap my head 37 00:01:55.719 --> 00:01:58.879 around it, you know, I don't. I'm a little confused 38 00:01:58.920 --> 00:02:02.000 that this is just it's not a understanding of what 39 00:02:02.040 --> 00:02:02.840 the future holds. 40 00:02:03.159 --> 00:02:04.439 It's just this is how it's going to be in 41 00:02:04.480 --> 00:02:05.599 this time. We're going to move forward. 42 00:02:05.760 --> 00:02:08.840 Right where you're not asking the fan base that supports 43 00:02:08.879 --> 00:02:11.520 you on a regular basis, you're just telling the fan base. 44 00:02:11.879 --> 00:02:15.360 And I think there's a difficult there's a difficult or 45 00:02:15.960 --> 00:02:18.400 a sensitive area that you should probably be aware of 46 00:02:18.400 --> 00:02:20.840 when you're doing that, because it's the people you're going back. 47 00:02:20.960 --> 00:02:25.240 Sure that well only runs so deep. You start bleeding 48 00:02:25.240 --> 00:02:28.759 it and bleeding it, you're gonna have some problems moving forward. Yeah, yeah, 49 00:02:28.840 --> 00:02:30.439 no question. And I've said this before. 50 00:02:30.479 --> 00:02:32.719 I think with you, I can't remember all the hosts 51 00:02:32.719 --> 00:02:36.479 that I have, but they're already asking the Jim Clicks 52 00:02:36.520 --> 00:02:38.400 of the world, and and he's in quotes because he's 53 00:02:38.439 --> 00:02:40.240 not the only one. Right, There's a bunch of people 54 00:02:40.280 --> 00:02:44.719 out there who give and give and give until probably 55 00:02:44.719 --> 00:02:47.199 they can't give anymore because you know, they get what 56 00:02:47.240 --> 00:02:49.719 they get in the ROI or whatever. But now they're 57 00:02:50.240 --> 00:02:53.159 getting after you and me and whomever. You know what 58 00:02:53.159 --> 00:02:56.919 I'm saying, the Joe Blows of the world who loved 59 00:02:56.960 --> 00:03:00.919 the university and still love to see them, But now, hey, 60 00:03:01.240 --> 00:03:03.960 can you spare time and not just this year? 61 00:03:05.039 --> 00:03:07.520 Moving forward? Yeah, every year? It looks like, right, I 62 00:03:07.879 --> 00:03:10.400 think that the better question. We've had this conversation behind 63 00:03:10.400 --> 00:03:12.479 closed doors a little bit, and I guess we're having 64 00:03:12.479 --> 00:03:15.520 it on the microphone now, So it's not who I'm 65 00:03:15.520 --> 00:03:17.560 not gonna I'm not going to tell you just us, 66 00:03:17.599 --> 00:03:19.639 not just us, other people that are very close to 67 00:03:19.639 --> 00:03:22.719 the UVE. Right, that's what it's ingrained into our DNA 68 00:03:22.879 --> 00:03:27.199 in southern Arizona and Tucson especially that Uh, it has 69 00:03:27.240 --> 00:03:29.400 to be a complete partnership that this is going to work. Right, 70 00:03:29.719 --> 00:03:34.560 If they're going to help us, you know, rise up 71 00:03:34.560 --> 00:03:36.680 to different levels and be more successful as a community, 72 00:03:36.879 --> 00:03:39.639 then I can understand this play. 73 00:03:39.919 --> 00:03:40.240 You've a. 74 00:03:42.000 --> 00:03:44.080 No, no, you're right, it's it's UVE. So youve as 75 00:03:44.120 --> 00:03:45.719 a whole, right, So I mean it's it's a very 76 00:03:45.800 --> 00:03:49.800 large entity at the heart of Tucson. It should have 77 00:03:50.599 --> 00:03:53.520 Uh maybe we'll want to keep this separate for the 78 00:03:53.560 --> 00:03:56.599 time being, but it should have a bigger reach into 79 00:03:56.639 --> 00:03:59.560 our community on a whole or as a whole. Right 80 00:03:59.599 --> 00:04:03.599 where we're we're allowing for more success in our privateates here, 81 00:04:03.599 --> 00:04:06.039 our public industry that's being driven by the U of 82 00:04:06.039 --> 00:04:08.479 A that's not a singular entity that's just keeping to itself. 83 00:04:08.479 --> 00:04:10.280 So this might be going a little deeper than we 84 00:04:10.280 --> 00:04:13.240 probably want to on sports radio, but it's if you're 85 00:04:13.280 --> 00:04:15.719 asking us to step up to the plate and give 86 00:04:15.759 --> 00:04:19.399 you more money. From an nil standpoint, the plan coming 87 00:04:19.480 --> 00:04:21.160 back to us now is how is that going to 88 00:04:21.160 --> 00:04:22.680 be reciprocated into our community? 89 00:04:23.439 --> 00:04:26.600 Fantastic, fantastic point. And that's probably a point that's probably 90 00:04:26.639 --> 00:04:29.800 not even thought of right now because their concern is 91 00:04:29.839 --> 00:04:33.240 survival and being competitive, and I'm sure they may have 92 00:04:33.240 --> 00:04:35.480 thought of that, but you know what I'm saying, that's there, 93 00:04:35.600 --> 00:04:38.000 here's another issue, and you wouldn't kind of be on 94 00:04:38.040 --> 00:04:42.920 where I wouldn't have gone. However, ex player, good player, 95 00:04:43.680 --> 00:04:47.959 naval player making now two hundred fifty three hundred thousand, 96 00:04:49.480 --> 00:04:52.360 I've ventured to guess you're not making that. No, you're 97 00:04:52.399 --> 00:04:53.920 not making that. How many people in two enter are 98 00:04:53.920 --> 00:04:57.959 actually a great point, but they're giving to the dude 99 00:04:57.959 --> 00:05:00.680 who's making that much weng. Yeah, it's there's an don't 100 00:05:00.720 --> 00:05:02.519 you have don't you think? Absolutely? 101 00:05:02.600 --> 00:05:04.639 I mean, you're robbing Peter to play Paul at this point, 102 00:05:04.680 --> 00:05:06.959 and Peter only has so much money and time and 103 00:05:06.959 --> 00:05:09.319 effort and love for the game and sport and university, 104 00:05:09.680 --> 00:05:12.319 especially when a large fan base in Tucson didn't go 105 00:05:12.360 --> 00:05:14.560 to the University Arizona. We're just twoson ins or Southern 106 00:05:14.560 --> 00:05:19.120 Arizona's so Sarah, Southern Arizonans that support the university from 107 00:05:19.120 --> 00:05:20.000 a sports standpoint. 108 00:05:20.120 --> 00:05:23.480 Yeah, it's a tough it's a tough ask. I mean, 109 00:05:23.639 --> 00:05:27.120 I think, and this is not a wealthy town. It's 110 00:05:27.160 --> 00:05:27.680 not you know. 111 00:05:27.680 --> 00:05:30.160 And that's when I'm saying that, I mean kids from 112 00:05:30.160 --> 00:05:32.800 my neighborhood that grew up where I grew up. Yeah, 113 00:05:33.000 --> 00:05:35.079 I'm fine with you going in there and trying to 114 00:05:35.240 --> 00:05:37.480 educate and then not meaning that they have to go 115 00:05:37.480 --> 00:05:39.879 to the university. But like, here's a path of the direction, 116 00:05:39.920 --> 00:05:41.800 here's a direction that you go to for success. But 117 00:05:41.839 --> 00:05:44.639 we need to change the culture here that we and 118 00:05:44.680 --> 00:05:47.040 it has to start I think at the university level. 119 00:05:47.240 --> 00:05:50.600 What would you Okay, I assume that you're you're not 120 00:05:50.639 --> 00:05:53.040 a grad. Right, you're not a graduate. You went to Denver. Uh, 121 00:05:53.519 --> 00:05:55.199 and so, but you have a love for you a right, 122 00:05:55.240 --> 00:05:57.399 you have an affinity. You grew up watching them, Yeah, 123 00:05:57.680 --> 00:06:00.759 and you love you. Whether it's it's im playing for 124 00:06:00.800 --> 00:06:02.639 them or me playing, it doesn't matter, it doesn't matter. 125 00:06:02.639 --> 00:06:04.199 You're you're helping that. You want to you want to 126 00:06:04.240 --> 00:06:05.000 you to succeed. 127 00:06:05.480 --> 00:06:05.759 Uh. 128 00:06:05.879 --> 00:06:08.199 What if you don't get any R or R O 129 00:06:08.439 --> 00:06:10.720 I from the money you're giving. 130 00:06:10.879 --> 00:06:12.519 I mean, that's a really good question, Steve. And this 131 00:06:12.560 --> 00:06:14.120 is a conversation you and I've had on the show 132 00:06:14.360 --> 00:06:16.360 quite a few times. I mean you're talking about what 133 00:06:16.439 --> 00:06:18.759 is oro O? I right, what is the expectations now? So, 134 00:06:19.079 --> 00:06:22.199 as a fan, I have a vested interest to you? 135 00:06:22.279 --> 00:06:25.560 Do I have a vested interest now, especially now on 136 00:06:25.600 --> 00:06:27.800 the product you're playing you're putting on the field, right, 137 00:06:27.920 --> 00:06:31.279 And that's if that product doesn't meet my expectations. This 138 00:06:31.360 --> 00:06:33.759 can this can shatter your relationship between you. 139 00:06:33.759 --> 00:06:36.480 And a university. It shatters a good word. And rightfully so, 140 00:06:36.680 --> 00:06:38.399 I had a friend. I had a friend a few 141 00:06:38.480 --> 00:06:42.279 years back. Uh kind of a you know, outspoken voice, 142 00:06:42.680 --> 00:06:44.959 just a dude. He just had a regular job, and 143 00:06:45.040 --> 00:06:48.120 he would he would complain, Oh, this team sucks and 144 00:06:48.199 --> 00:06:51.160 blah blah blah. The football team sucks and the basketball 145 00:06:51.160 --> 00:06:54.480 teams underwell, meaning I'm thinking, what you can why you 146 00:06:54.519 --> 00:06:57.079 talk about this? Well, I give you know, I support them, 147 00:06:57.120 --> 00:06:59.800 and I give them money. How do you do that? Well, 148 00:07:00.079 --> 00:07:02.519 my daughter goes there and I says, well, that's not 149 00:07:02.560 --> 00:07:05.319 accurate because your money that you pay for tuition doesn't 150 00:07:05.560 --> 00:07:09.040 is separate than the University of athletic department. So I 151 00:07:09.079 --> 00:07:12.040 was thinking I was told right, kind of not anymore 152 00:07:12.079 --> 00:07:14.240 because there's such a big deficit. I could be wrong. 153 00:07:14.240 --> 00:07:16.240 Anybody wants to call me, please let me know. And 154 00:07:16.279 --> 00:07:18.720 I'm sure that's not true. Your daughter goes and you're 155 00:07:18.759 --> 00:07:21.519 happy to center their pay the tuition. It's not connected 156 00:07:21.560 --> 00:07:25.600 to the athletic department. Guess what now everything is And 157 00:07:25.600 --> 00:07:27.560 now he has every right to say that I think, 158 00:07:27.800 --> 00:07:28.519 am I? Am I right? 159 00:07:28.560 --> 00:07:28.759 One? 160 00:07:29.120 --> 00:07:32.199 Am I not right? If your money goes to the school, 161 00:07:33.160 --> 00:07:35.319 it's part of the u A now with all the 162 00:07:35.360 --> 00:07:37.480 delinquency accounts and all that stuff. 163 00:07:37.519 --> 00:07:40.920 Yeah, I'm sure money gets thrown around a little bit here, 164 00:07:40.920 --> 00:07:43.240 a little bit there, but a large portion of it 165 00:07:43.240 --> 00:07:46.399 does get thrown to athletics. So at this point, if 166 00:07:46.439 --> 00:07:49.040 you are attending the university, you might as well think 167 00:07:49.040 --> 00:07:51.839 you're paying Caleb Love as well. 168 00:07:52.199 --> 00:07:54.480 But here's the difference of the ROI as a degree, right, 169 00:07:54.519 --> 00:07:57.399 they're getting education. So now you're talking about the players, 170 00:07:57.439 --> 00:07:59.439 I'm talking about the students are a student, right, So 171 00:07:59.480 --> 00:08:01.439 you can say, yeah, I'm paying this money, it's going 172 00:08:01.439 --> 00:08:04.639 to these players. I mean, but the ROI for the 173 00:08:04.680 --> 00:08:06.319 people that are paying the people that are paying, are 174 00:08:06.360 --> 00:08:09.600 getting you're getting a degree from that university US as 175 00:08:09.680 --> 00:08:12.240 fans that are paying for either season tickets or just 176 00:08:12.240 --> 00:08:13.079 single game tickets. 177 00:08:13.079 --> 00:08:13.839 Whatever it's going to be. 178 00:08:14.560 --> 00:08:17.639 Uh, the our ROI better be outcomes on the field, 179 00:08:17.839 --> 00:08:18.279 out comes. 180 00:08:18.439 --> 00:08:21.839 What if? Okay, well sorry, Blake, but you are entertained, 181 00:08:21.839 --> 00:08:23.800 aren't you? Are you going to support and you're getting 182 00:08:23.920 --> 00:08:26.639 entertainment for some value? Uh? Isn't that enough? 183 00:08:28.040 --> 00:08:30.839 I mean that I don't want to be considered a 184 00:08:30.839 --> 00:08:34.200 fair weather fan when I say this. You can say no, 185 00:08:34.960 --> 00:08:37.080 it is to a degree. Let's say that, right, it's 186 00:08:37.080 --> 00:08:40.159 a it's an experience, an event. It is to a degree, 187 00:08:40.240 --> 00:08:45.120 but it's you're establishing a different route that we've ever 188 00:08:45.200 --> 00:08:45.639 been used to. 189 00:08:45.720 --> 00:08:47.720 But there's so many tentacles for this, right Yeah? And 190 00:08:48.000 --> 00:08:50.200 how many other universities are doing this? A lot of them? 191 00:08:50.240 --> 00:08:51.679 A lot of them. We've got a call real quick. 192 00:08:51.759 --> 00:08:55.279 Who's this here on the air, Yes, Mike Quinn and 193 00:08:55.399 --> 00:08:59.120 Mike Quinn. Hey, Mike, Mike full disclosures, my Monday co host. 194 00:08:59.480 --> 00:09:01.360 I sent you the thing that I just said, Blake, 195 00:09:01.679 --> 00:09:03.159 how do you feel about it? Because you have a 196 00:09:03.200 --> 00:09:08.519 few tickets in the hoity toity area of the football stadium. 197 00:09:08.679 --> 00:09:11.639 Yeah. Well, well, first I want to congratulate blank because 198 00:09:12.039 --> 00:09:13.120 Steve never asked. 199 00:09:12.879 --> 00:09:13.519 For my opinion. 200 00:09:14.240 --> 00:09:17.360 Uh one want I'm on there and and he and 201 00:09:17.399 --> 00:09:20.720 he and he lets you finish sentences, so that one. 202 00:09:20.639 --> 00:09:21.039 Up on me. 203 00:09:22.200 --> 00:09:25.279 The Uh it's I'll tell you know. I think the 204 00:09:25.320 --> 00:09:27.360 thing that I thought was interesting about this whole thing 205 00:09:27.519 --> 00:09:30.039 was and they send this out there like, hey, hey, 206 00:09:30.159 --> 00:09:34.759 we're not raising ticket prices, Well aren't you. I mean 207 00:09:34.919 --> 00:09:38.480 you got this extra fee now, well, I just you know, 208 00:09:38.519 --> 00:09:40.960 it's like going, Okay, I understand that we've got stuff 209 00:09:40.960 --> 00:09:44.679 that's going to all all our nil contracts and all 210 00:09:44.679 --> 00:09:48.440 our obligations there, But I don't know, man. You know, 211 00:09:48.639 --> 00:09:50.480 at some point you've got to put a better product 212 00:09:50.519 --> 00:09:55.159 on the field, you know, to keep having to pay 213 00:09:55.200 --> 00:09:57.639 for something that is they were betting on the com 214 00:09:57.720 --> 00:10:00.240 I don't know if that's that's gonna pan out in 215 00:10:00.240 --> 00:10:04.200 the long run. You put a good product out there, 216 00:10:04.440 --> 00:10:10.039 You're going to have people contribute. That's got to start well. 217 00:10:10.480 --> 00:10:13.639 So it's not a well to me, it's not a 218 00:10:13.639 --> 00:10:15.519 lot of money, but it's still a lot of money. 219 00:10:15.519 --> 00:10:18.519 You know. Fifty dollars here, fifty dollars here, not just 220 00:10:18.679 --> 00:10:22.120 for four tickets for each ticket. Yeah. 221 00:10:22.200 --> 00:10:23.960 I mean, well it's it's a little bit of this 222 00:10:24.080 --> 00:10:26.240 and a little little bit of that. Yeah, and you know, 223 00:10:26.320 --> 00:10:28.919 eventually it turns into real money for for people who 224 00:10:28.919 --> 00:10:31.399 are buying this stuff. I mean, you know it's like, oh, yeah, 225 00:10:31.399 --> 00:10:33.240 I do sit in the Sands Club. I mean, we 226 00:10:33.559 --> 00:10:36.000 have nice seats. But boy, I'll tell you what it's 227 00:10:36.000 --> 00:10:38.240 at the you know, I'm at the top end of 228 00:10:38.240 --> 00:10:41.720 what I'm going to do, so I don't know. I 229 00:10:41.720 --> 00:10:44.200 don't know if I'm gonna buy tickets is here. 230 00:10:44.720 --> 00:10:47.639 I think the biggest question is is this a sustainable model? 231 00:10:47.759 --> 00:10:47.960 Right? 232 00:10:48.039 --> 00:10:50.360 I mean you're talking about a business plan. If you're 233 00:10:50.360 --> 00:10:53.320 putting that pressure and back onto the under the sand experience, 234 00:10:53.559 --> 00:10:56.200 this isn't a sustainable model for the long term. And 235 00:10:56.240 --> 00:10:58.240 as of right now, we don't see we don't see 236 00:10:58.240 --> 00:11:00.879 a change in the anisle where it's moved or how 237 00:11:00.879 --> 00:11:02.600 it's gonna move, so it's going to remain the same. 238 00:11:02.799 --> 00:11:05.080 There has to be a business thought process when you're 239 00:11:05.120 --> 00:11:07.799 going into it where they're creating their own revenue source 240 00:11:08.039 --> 00:11:10.360 or additional revenue sourts that's going to go into the nil. 241 00:11:10.399 --> 00:11:12.639 They can't be piggybacked on our backs and fans. 242 00:11:13.200 --> 00:11:16.879 Yeah, eventually it's not gonna it's not gonna it's not 243 00:11:16.879 --> 00:11:17.279 gonna work. 244 00:11:17.320 --> 00:11:18.080 It's gonna collapse. 245 00:11:18.120 --> 00:11:20.759 I mean, you don't have a fan base like Alabama 246 00:11:20.840 --> 00:11:23.559 or Texas A and M or or Texas or something 247 00:11:23.639 --> 00:11:28.120 like that that it has its winning tradition. We pretty 248 00:11:28.159 --> 00:11:32.679 much have an up and down tradition. So if you 249 00:11:32.759 --> 00:11:36.759 start trying to keep Nickel and Diamond people, you're eventually 250 00:11:36.840 --> 00:11:37.919 gonna get to the point. 251 00:11:37.679 --> 00:11:41.799 Where you're at revenue. Your revenue is going to go down. Yeah, 252 00:11:42.080 --> 00:11:44.919 you need them to continue. We maybe at that point. Yeah. 253 00:11:44.960 --> 00:11:46.399 You know what this feels like to me is when 254 00:11:46.440 --> 00:11:48.759 you go when you go to a stadium and there's 255 00:11:49.120 --> 00:11:51.559 a self concession stand and you go up there and 256 00:11:51.600 --> 00:11:53.639 you grab your own drink and you grab your own food, 257 00:11:53.679 --> 00:11:55.559 and then you go to pay and it goes okay, 258 00:11:55.559 --> 00:11:57.240 how about a twenty percent tip? And you're like, I 259 00:11:57.240 --> 00:12:00.600 did what I literally I did it all myself. This 260 00:12:00.679 --> 00:12:02.720 is what this feels. 261 00:12:02.840 --> 00:12:05.879 Yeah, that's absolutely the same way. Same way. 262 00:12:06.120 --> 00:12:06.240 Now. 263 00:12:06.399 --> 00:12:08.200 I mean you can sit there and bill it and 264 00:12:08.279 --> 00:12:10.440 sit and say it's like listen in order for us, 265 00:12:10.759 --> 00:12:13.360 you want a competitive you want a competitive team out there. 266 00:12:13.600 --> 00:12:15.759 In order for us to compete, we need to have 267 00:12:15.879 --> 00:12:19.960 everybody kick in on this stuff. That's something that you know, 268 00:12:20.759 --> 00:12:23.960 that's really realistic right now. But the question is, like, 269 00:12:24.120 --> 00:12:25.759 you know, how much of these are we going to 270 00:12:25.840 --> 00:12:28.480 be kicking in? We're not a wealthy town. I mean, 271 00:12:28.480 --> 00:12:32.120 there's wealthy people here, but to do it, to do 272 00:12:32.159 --> 00:12:33.240 it to everybody. 273 00:12:32.919 --> 00:12:34.000 I think it's going to be a little. 274 00:12:34.679 --> 00:12:36.600 Uh, it's going to be a little difficult for people 275 00:12:36.639 --> 00:12:41.200 to swallow. Yeah, well, I agree with you when I'd. 276 00:12:40.000 --> 00:12:42.240 Be interested to see if this is a this is 277 00:12:42.279 --> 00:12:44.840 a net revenue gain or whether they're going to lose 278 00:12:44.879 --> 00:12:47.080 a significant number of season ticket holders. 279 00:12:47.600 --> 00:12:50.200 I guess we'll see, and if they continue to be mediocre, 280 00:12:50.799 --> 00:12:52.360 how many will stick around? That's right? 281 00:12:53.120 --> 00:12:55.080 Yeah, I mean, you have you put a bad product 282 00:12:55.080 --> 00:12:57.240 out on the field, people are gonna sit there and go, 283 00:12:57.320 --> 00:13:00.000 I mean, what are we three and or four and whatever? 284 00:13:01.080 --> 00:13:04.519 And it's like going, I'm paying extra for that? No exactly, 285 00:13:04.639 --> 00:13:10.240 you know, yeah, show me something good. So I don't know, uh, well, uh, 286 00:13:10.600 --> 00:13:14.960 we'll see how this all plays out. Yeah, I think, 287 00:13:15.000 --> 00:13:17.159 you know, I do think that what they should do, 288 00:13:17.159 --> 00:13:20.200 they should have made it based on. You know where 289 00:13:20.200 --> 00:13:23.559 you're sitting, you know, the people that are sitting in 290 00:13:23.559 --> 00:13:25.559 the seats the Sands Club where I'm at, I would 291 00:13:25.600 --> 00:13:29.080 have had a bigger surcharge the people that are sitting 292 00:13:29.120 --> 00:13:30.799 you know, and you know, you sit there and you 293 00:13:30.879 --> 00:13:32.720 look at the scam you got that, You got those 294 00:13:32.799 --> 00:13:35.480 three guys that are way at the top, all the 295 00:13:35.480 --> 00:13:36.200 way in the back. 296 00:13:36.279 --> 00:13:37.759 I mean, I don't know if. 297 00:13:37.679 --> 00:13:39.799 I'd search charge them. 298 00:13:39.480 --> 00:13:41.919 Yeah, true, So yeah, to be fair and equal. 299 00:13:43.360 --> 00:13:46.480 Yeah, well then then then you kind of spread the pain. 300 00:13:47.120 --> 00:13:53.440 Yeah anyway, Okay, thanks Mike theif shairing that, good luck. 301 00:13:54.639 --> 00:13:56.720 I promise I promise to let you talk more later. 302 00:13:56.960 --> 00:13:59.240 The hell you come on in Mondays he talks about 303 00:13:59.360 --> 00:14:04.559 this is the like who on Monday Monday. 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