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<v Speaker 1>Breaking down all the xes and os.

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<v Speaker 2>This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera on

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<v Speaker 2>Fox Sports fourteen fifty eight.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, welcome back to ian the Ball here on Fox

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<v Speaker 3>Sports sporteen fifty I'm Steve Rivera.

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<v Speaker 4>You're Dave Silver, your Juan with breaking news.

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<v Speaker 2>This is I on the Ball, breaking news on Fox

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<v Speaker 2>Sports fourteen fifty eight.

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<v Speaker 5>Happy Wednesday to everyone out there, yours truly, mister Greed,

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<v Speaker 5>two shoes, mihitolindo, whatever it is. You know it's a Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 5>We love it O day. Starting off breaking news with

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<v Speaker 5>looking ahead to a women's basketball game tonight for Arizona

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<v Speaker 5>women's basketball. They take on Cincinnati at six o'clock tonight,

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<v Speaker 5>coming off a win at Kansas.

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<v Speaker 4>Are you doing that?

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<v Speaker 6>No? No, no, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm hoping to get her on the show pretty soon,

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<v Speaker 3>just to see her gage her enthusiasm or whatever, because

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<v Speaker 3>you know, it's been tough. It's been a tough year.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>They I don't think they they haven't won at home

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<v Speaker 5>in conference, but all three of their conference wins.

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<v Speaker 4>I've been on the road. They're good road three and four. Overall,

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<v Speaker 4>they're a good road team. I haven't been to Have

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<v Speaker 4>you been to a game.

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<v Speaker 7>I've not been to a game this year. No, when

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<v Speaker 7>was the last time you did go to They went

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<v Speaker 7>to one last year, did Okay? I drove by the

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<v Speaker 7>Cincinnati bus needs anything. I know they're in town. The

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<v Speaker 7>stay at the Marriotte right by campus. We know there's

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<v Speaker 7>somebody in town, so that that'll be fun.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. Games on ESPN.

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<v Speaker 5>Plus, yes, yes, yes, PM plus uh. And then of

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<v Speaker 5>course the men's team got to win in still Water

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<v Speaker 5>against Oklahoma State ninety two to seventy eight.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they'll played well, they're looking ahead.

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<v Speaker 5>Colorado's this Saturday at one o'clock, yes, PM plus one o'clock.

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<v Speaker 7>It's a doubleheader day too. I think who women play after?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>Later yeah, later, late in between.

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<v Speaker 5>So I'll bet I'll be at tennis covering the men's team.

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<v Speaker 5>They play on Saturday as well.

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<v Speaker 4>So they're good. It can be good. Again, they're really good.

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<v Speaker 4>Number six, they're really good. That's nice.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>So looking to some other scores across college basketball, Ucla

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<v Speaker 5>took down number eighteen Wisconsin in LA. Yeah, eighty five

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<v Speaker 5>to eighty three. And then you had Arizona State beat

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<v Speaker 5>West Virginia, number twenty three West Virginia at West Virginia. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>so the state of Arizona got that sweep in Morgantown.

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<v Speaker 4>Get to the NBA. The Mavericks forward.

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<v Speaker 5>Last center Derek Lively, the second is out for two

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<v Speaker 5>to three months with a foot fracture, So a little

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<v Speaker 5>blow to their championship RN. They're already missing Luca and

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<v Speaker 5>now they don't have one of their star players. The

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<v Speaker 5>Lakers are adding Jared Vanderbilt to their roster, not adding,

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<v Speaker 5>but gaining after he was cleared for the season. His

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<v Speaker 5>season debut on Saturday. He's been out since February first,

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<v Speaker 5>with let me see, where's you say it?

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<v Speaker 6>Right?

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<v Speaker 4>Foot right, midfoot spring since February first? Wow? Okay, uh.

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<v Speaker 5>The Bucks and Pelicans game was postponed tonight after the

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<v Speaker 5>snow storm.

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<v Speaker 4>And you see this.

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<v Speaker 3>You saw the snow in Orleans. Yeah, no one's on

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<v Speaker 8>No.

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<v Speaker 7>I saw some video of Bourbon Street like last night.

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<v Speaker 7>It was unbelievable. So it doesn't happen too often in Florida.

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<v Speaker 7>There's all kinds of snows. I think it's their first

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<v Speaker 7>snowfall in thirteen years. Yeah, probably, it's crazy.

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<v Speaker 5>The Sun's acquired three first round draft picks in a

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<v Speaker 5>trade with the Jazz, kind of sparking speculation for a

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<v Speaker 5>trade with Jimmy Butler and the Heat, especially since the

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<v Speaker 5>Heat have now suspended Jimmy Butler for two games following

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<v Speaker 5>his return.

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<v Speaker 3>Does say with pay? Probably not with pay. I doesn't say,

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<v Speaker 3>but he's it doesn't really matter. But I'm just wondering

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<v Speaker 3>how much each game is, like maybe one hundred and

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<v Speaker 3>fifty thousand dollars each game.

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<v Speaker 4>Probably at least.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, he said they said he missed a team flight

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<v Speaker 5>for their road trip, the two game road trip. He

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<v Speaker 5>had planned to join them the same night. But now

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<v Speaker 5>there's they're gonna suspend him for two more games. Maybe

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<v Speaker 5>you'll see a trade within the next two days or so. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>Do you think that's not gonna do to the Suns?

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<v Speaker 5>Are they gonna who they're gonna trade?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not sure.

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<v Speaker 5>I'll probably trade those first three picks, the three first

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<v Speaker 6>Maybe.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, if they could just get those three feel

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<v Speaker 7>and Durant and Booker all on the court at the

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<v Speaker 7>same time, they're really good, but they just haven't been

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<v Speaker 7>able to It's like fifty percent of the time that

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<v Speaker 7>they've all been teammates, they played together.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you think Jimmy Butler will be a help to

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<v Speaker 4>the Sons or a hinder.

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<v Speaker 3>How many basketballs do they played with one? Two at least?

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<v Speaker 3>I think so they're changing the game now.

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<v Speaker 4>Too many stars on that I Booker and Durant is enough.

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<v Speaker 4>But well they're not.

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<v Speaker 7>They're not because their own is doesn't sit still. I

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<v Speaker 7>mean they've changed coaches, They've made moves, fired, fired coaches,

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<v Speaker 7>made all these trades.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, whatever it.

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<v Speaker 3>Takes to win Now. I don't know if you guys

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<v Speaker 3>are paying attention to the NBA, because I don't. The

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<v Speaker 3>kid from Alabama Smith that was really good that he

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<v Speaker 3>was the one with the gun?

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<v Speaker 4>Is he playing?

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<v Speaker 5>Who's he playing for with the Rockets? I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 5>he was with the he was with the Hornets. I

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<v Speaker 5>had a good rookie season. I haven't really heard from

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<v Speaker 5>him since because you don't hear his name very often.

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<v Speaker 3>What about the guy who who wore that red red

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<v Speaker 4>I think it was Kansas the year before with the draft? Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I have to kind of go.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just thinking, because you don't hear these names, you

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<v Speaker 3>hear names that you've never heard before out of.

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<v Speaker 7>The very international. I mean, you're not necessarily ever see

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<v Speaker 7>these guys before. Sure, France, number of players from France

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<v Speaker 4>Especially speaking of France.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh, the Spurs and the Pacers are going to play

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<v Speaker 4>Uh, why a time, there's a couple of a couple

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's a couple of games out there there, I

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<v Speaker 3>believe for right now it's just the Pacers and Spars.

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<v Speaker 4>They play tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, wenby, big, big French guy. They play tomorrow Thursday

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<v Speaker 5>at noon on NBA TV and then Saturday. But the

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<v Speaker 5>big story for them is that Great Papovich is still out.

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<v Speaker 5>There's still no return for him, no time for return.

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<v Speaker 5>But the the CEO R. C. Beauford has said that

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<v Speaker 5>he's recovering. Well, he's recovering aggressively whatever whatever that means.

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<v Speaker 5>Did you ever have to deal with Pop?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, anything.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, he's covered the two thousand and one and still

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<v Speaker 3>NBA Finals. He was good, he was good. It's funny.

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<v Speaker 3>I kind of when member Sean got his kidney, his kiddey. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>when he went I flew out there for a week

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<v Speaker 3>and I spent time with the team and them, and

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<v Speaker 3>I asked maybe a dumb question at the time, and

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<v Speaker 3>got the impression that people thought Sean was saw because

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<v Speaker 4>Kind of am I speaking out a turn?

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<v Speaker 6>No?

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<v Speaker 4>I agree, yeah, And he.

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<v Speaker 3>Looked at me like where you get the where are

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<v Speaker 3>you getting this? And who are you because I had

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<v Speaker 3>just shown up from Tucson right to cover this big thing.

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<v Speaker 3>And he looked at me and says, well, I'm thinking

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<v Speaker 3>that's what the perception is is it's not the perception

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<v Speaker 3>I should know. I'm as coach and I left it

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<v Speaker 3>like that, But at the time that's what it was.

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<v Speaker 4>I know he was He's always been fun. He's kind

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<v Speaker 4>of funny.

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<v Speaker 7>And yeah, remember how he would deal with Craig Sayer

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<v Speaker 3>I would to go, do you think those questions are

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<v Speaker 3>are worthy of anything?

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<v Speaker 7>But he played it up and then they wound up

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<v Speaker 7>becoming really good friends. Of course, Craig got sick and

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<v Speaker 7>so it turned out to be pretty emotional. But sure,

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<v Speaker 7>you know he's been around. He was with a Warriors

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<v Speaker 7>organization in his younger years, and I kind of remember

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<v Speaker 7>him there I didn't and then kind of, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>matriculated over to San Antonio.

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<v Speaker 4>So let me ask you Harmon. Is it Becky Harmon?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, so his assistant for a while. Now.

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<v Speaker 3>Would you think that at some point that she could

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<v Speaker 3>be an NBA head coach?

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<v Speaker 7>I think she'd probably be the first person to do it.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, she's kind of in position right.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, and she's one. If there was gonna be a first,

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<v Speaker 4>she should be the first.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, very very successful at what she does in that organization.

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<v Speaker 4>They might bring it. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, you know, obviously the men are coaching the

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<v Speaker 7>women's teams. You know, Gino's got a zillion victories of

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<v Speaker 7>a ukon, so it's kind of gone that way. But

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<v Speaker 7>whether or not the men can take orders from the women,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, who's who knows, But she'd be the one.

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<v Speaker 4>She's kind of in that in that spot right now.

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<v Speaker 5>Dust some NFL news with some hiring and firings and

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<v Speaker 5>parting ways. The Jets have hired Lions of defensive coordinator

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<v Speaker 4>Denver Denver, Detroit.

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<v Speaker 3>It's kind of not falling apart, but the people who

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<v Speaker 3>have gone their coordinators have left. Yeah, it's kind of

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<v Speaker 3>like the Patriots were, you know, twenty years ago, when

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<v Speaker 3>every one of their coordinators would get head coaching jobs.

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<v Speaker 3>But Glenn played for the Jets too back in the day,

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<v Speaker 3>so he's got a little bit of a history there

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<v Speaker 3>at least.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, So well, I guess Ryan didn't get the job.

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<v Speaker 4>I guess not Reck or yeah, rights Ryan? Thanks Ryan?

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<v Speaker 4>Uh trp uh.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't even know if I'm saying Balky is out

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<v Speaker 5>as the Jaguars GM. So now they're in two searches

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<v Speaker 5>for one for a GM and now for a head

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<v Speaker 5>coach as the Raiders have also hired Buccaneers uh GM

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<v Speaker 5>John's spider. I'm not try to say that as their

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<v Speaker 5>new GM. The Rams starting quarterback Matthew Stafford. According to

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<v Speaker 4>Well.

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<v Speaker 3>One of my secrets daven doing my job. And I

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<v Speaker 7>And then then he commented afterwards, you know they're always

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<v Speaker 7>No, and he's you know, look at his brother up

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, welcome back to Iying the ball here on Fox

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<v Speaker 4>We just lost Bobs. We'll defne cocas your call.

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<v Speaker 3>Look if I could just talk here, hello, let me

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<v Speaker 4>And we'll talk about his situation with doctor j How

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, big night for him to get you know, one

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<v Speaker 3>so you know there's that I want to talk to

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<v Speaker 16>I thought it went extremely well. I think it was

431
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<v Speaker 16>great for the community to be able to see someone

432
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<v Speaker 16>like Julius irving right there in person, to hear him

433
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<v Speaker 16>talk about his life, not getting some feed from a

434
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<v Speaker 16>television or something. And and the responses we've heard from

435
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<v Speaker 16>people is that they were amazed. I mean just some

436
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<v Speaker 16>people said they cried.

437
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<v Speaker 6>You know.

438
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<v Speaker 16>When Julius started out, I talked about the fact that

439
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<v Speaker 16>he's the only living member of his family. I think

440
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<v Speaker 16>that that kind of that kind of got people thinking.

441
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<v Speaker 3>Right right, And I didn't realize his brother had died

442
00:19:47.880 --> 00:19:48.680
<v Speaker 3>at an early age.

443
00:19:50.319 --> 00:19:53.200
<v Speaker 16>Yeah, yeah, his youngest brother and it was his uh,

444
00:19:53.400 --> 00:19:56.160
<v Speaker 16>they had they had a sister who was older and

445
00:19:56.240 --> 00:19:59.319
<v Speaker 16>then Julius is the middle child. And then Marvin or

446
00:19:59.400 --> 00:20:03.359
<v Speaker 16>they called him, he was the one that was three

447
00:20:03.440 --> 00:20:06.160
<v Speaker 16>years younger than Julius, and Marky died at age of

448
00:20:06.240 --> 00:20:09.079
<v Speaker 16>sixteen when Julius was a freshman up in a U mess.

449
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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, what do you think this is the most important

450
00:20:15.440 --> 00:20:17.440
<v Speaker 7>thing he talked about. I mean, he's he's been in

451
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<v Speaker 7>our world and we've watched him, you know, really since

452
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<v Speaker 7>the seventies. What's his what's his overall legacy going to be?

453
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<v Speaker 7>I mean he was kind of there before Michael Jordan,

454
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<v Speaker 7>you know, but you know, everybody kind of looks back

455
00:20:28.839 --> 00:20:30.759
<v Speaker 7>to doctor j has been one who started that.

456
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<v Speaker 4>Style of basketball.

457
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<v Speaker 2>You know.

458
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<v Speaker 16>I think he left everybody with the message that your

459
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<v Speaker 16>best day is yet to come.

460
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<v Speaker 6>So regardless of what he's done.

461
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<v Speaker 16>Is past, I think he feels like he lives, which

462
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<v Speaker 16>is that his best day is yet to come.

463
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<v Speaker 4>Who uh, did do you remember the first time you're

464
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<v Speaker 4>having fun?

465
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<v Speaker 3>No?

466
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<v Speaker 16>No, you know it's amazing because I mean I think

467
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<v Speaker 16>people when they came to the fireside chat might have

468
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<v Speaker 16>had preconceived notions about what they were going to see

469
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<v Speaker 16>and hear, and I think they left impressed, overwhelmed and

470
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<v Speaker 16>thought provoking.

471
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<v Speaker 3>You met him in the late seventies, I'm assuming, right,

472
00:21:30.319 --> 00:21:33.440
<v Speaker 3>what was were you obstruck too before you actually met him?

473
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<v Speaker 6>Yeah? Come on, now, I mean I'm drafted.

474
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<v Speaker 16>I'm drafted by the sixers, right, and Julius is the

475
00:21:45.279 --> 00:21:50.440
<v Speaker 16>icon for the whole league. But immediately I could tell

476
00:21:50.640 --> 00:21:53.680
<v Speaker 16>that on the court, oh he was doctor j He

477
00:21:53.839 --> 00:21:56.160
<v Speaker 16>did things on the court that you just don't believe

478
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<v Speaker 16>are possible. But then off the courting with Julie and

479
00:22:01.880 --> 00:22:05.000
<v Speaker 16>we struck up a relationship from from day almost day

480
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<v Speaker 16>one in camp to the point where after one week,

481
00:22:09.000 --> 00:22:11.920
<v Speaker 16>you know, all the veterans have their own rooms. The

482
00:22:12.000 --> 00:22:13.799
<v Speaker 16>rookies are two to a room. There was a cut

483
00:22:13.880 --> 00:22:16.640
<v Speaker 16>after one week. I had a single room, and you know,

484
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<v Speaker 16>some of the veterans being veterans, you know, like Doug

485
00:22:19.039 --> 00:22:22.200
<v Speaker 16>Collins and Henry Bibby and Lloyd Free who's in that world?

486
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<v Speaker 6>Be Free?

487
00:22:23.440 --> 00:22:24.920
<v Speaker 16>And they were like, now I put three of them

488
00:22:25.039 --> 00:22:27.720
<v Speaker 16>ugly rascals in one room. And Julie said, now Bob

489
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<v Speaker 16>can move in with me. He's been my big brother

490
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<v Speaker 16>ever since.

491
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<v Speaker 4>Yes, yeah, you told that story.

492
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<v Speaker 3>Uh I would I would have seen that you guys

493
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<v Speaker 3>liked each other one in part because one you're very

494
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<v Speaker 3>talented basketball players, but also cerebral, you know, kind of bookish.

495
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<v Speaker 9>Uh.

496
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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I've been called a nerd. Especially I've been called

497
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<v Speaker 6>a nerd.

498
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<v Speaker 16>That's one of the one of the things that Channing

499
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<v Speaker 16>Fry and I always laugh about.

500
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<v Speaker 6>They say, you know, the nerds of of the world unite. Yeah,

501
00:23:00.920 --> 00:23:01.319
<v Speaker 6>but it's true.

502
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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure that was kind of like a thing too,

503
00:23:02.799 --> 00:23:05.799
<v Speaker 3>because he's a very bright man, well spoken, just as

504
00:23:05.880 --> 00:23:08.279
<v Speaker 3>you are, you know, well respected.

505
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<v Speaker 16>No, I mean we hit it off in so many

506
00:23:12.759 --> 00:23:16.440
<v Speaker 16>different areas. It's like we had known each other for life.

507
00:23:16.559 --> 00:23:18.400
<v Speaker 6>Like I literally was his little brother.

508
00:23:18.519 --> 00:23:21.680
<v Speaker 16>And then you know again, since when I got there,

509
00:23:22.680 --> 00:23:28.240
<v Speaker 16>his little brother had passed away, I have literally become marquee.

510
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that makes sense.

511
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<v Speaker 7>Talk a little bit if you could about the museum.

512
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<v Speaker 7>It's on campus, it's new, pretty new. This was a

513
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<v Speaker 7>benefit for the week.

514
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<v Speaker 16>Can you maybe we just had Yeah, we just had

515
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<v Speaker 16>our second year of actually being open. We've been in

516
00:23:43.799 --> 00:23:47.960
<v Speaker 16>business before that, we were basically running the museum off

517
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<v Speaker 16>of the Internet and our website. But after two years,

518
00:23:51.519 --> 00:23:54.200
<v Speaker 16>you know, we've had over seven thousand people come to

519
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<v Speaker 16>that museum, and you know, as a reference point, you know,

520
00:23:58.240 --> 00:24:00.839
<v Speaker 16>State Museum gets about two thoul within a year. So

521
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<v Speaker 16>we're extremely happy about what we've done and what we've

522
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<v Speaker 16>been able to accomplish. And obviously my wife, being the

523
00:24:08.599 --> 00:24:12.839
<v Speaker 16>executive director, has been unbelievable what she's been able to

524
00:24:12.880 --> 00:24:16.079
<v Speaker 16>put together. I think that you know the thing, and

525
00:24:16.240 --> 00:24:18.519
<v Speaker 16>so many people when it comes through there, they come

526
00:24:18.559 --> 00:24:20.039
<v Speaker 16>in the door and the first thing they say is

527
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<v Speaker 16>this is not what I expected. At which time I've

528
00:24:24.119 --> 00:24:26.519
<v Speaker 16>been there, my wife said, well, what were you expecting?

529
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<v Speaker 16>And it's something that she's put together with a lot

530
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<v Speaker 16>of exhibits. It's inner generational so that they can also

531
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<v Speaker 16>affect not only older people but also the young students

532
00:24:41.880 --> 00:24:47.240
<v Speaker 16>on campus. And it looks I think it looks nice

533
00:24:47.279 --> 00:24:48.279
<v Speaker 16>in class and education.

534
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<v Speaker 4>So I'm not sure you want to talk about this.

535
00:24:51.160 --> 00:24:53.799
<v Speaker 3>But one of the purposes, or if not, the purpose

536
00:24:53.839 --> 00:24:56.720
<v Speaker 3>of bringing him over was to help raise money to

537
00:24:57.119 --> 00:24:58.480
<v Speaker 3>help support it, correct.

538
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<v Speaker 6>No question.

539
00:25:00.160 --> 00:25:02.720
<v Speaker 16>Definitely was a fundraiser, and Julius said he wanted to

540
00:25:02.799 --> 00:25:05.920
<v Speaker 16>do something to help the museum, and we said the

541
00:25:06.000 --> 00:25:08.839
<v Speaker 16>best way would be to do a fireside chat. This

542
00:25:09.039 --> 00:25:11.640
<v Speaker 16>is a fourth that we've done. We did Ruby Bridges.

543
00:25:12.279 --> 00:25:14.839
<v Speaker 16>It was the first one. Stacy Snowden was the second one,

544
00:25:14.880 --> 00:25:15.960
<v Speaker 16>Coach Snowden's.

545
00:25:15.599 --> 00:25:19.279
<v Speaker 6>Daughter, a lot of walls from the Little Rock nine.

546
00:25:20.279 --> 00:25:24.720
<v Speaker 16>And then at the same time Julius is the fourth one.

547
00:25:26.240 --> 00:25:28.759
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, some big names who, what's what's next? And what

548
00:25:28.839 --> 00:25:29.680
<v Speaker 4>else do you have on the calendar?

549
00:25:29.720 --> 00:25:30.000
<v Speaker 6>Anything?

550
00:25:30.000 --> 00:25:30.279
<v Speaker 4>Planning?

551
00:25:30.319 --> 00:25:30.960
<v Speaker 12>How this.

552
00:25:32.680 --> 00:25:32.839
<v Speaker 1>Good?

553
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<v Speaker 6>Questions?

554
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<v Speaker 16>You know, we keep raising the bar and it makes

555
00:25:37.160 --> 00:25:40.680
<v Speaker 16>you wonder how far can the bar be raised. We

556
00:25:41.000 --> 00:25:45.720
<v Speaker 16>haven't really discussed what is next, per se, but we

557
00:25:45.839 --> 00:25:50.559
<v Speaker 16>do know that given our market, given Tucson, you cannot

558
00:25:50.599 --> 00:25:52.640
<v Speaker 16>do too many of these. So it's not like going

559
00:25:52.680 --> 00:25:54.960
<v Speaker 16>to do one every three or four months or one

560
00:25:55.039 --> 00:25:58.240
<v Speaker 16>every six months. I think that probably one a year

561
00:25:58.480 --> 00:26:00.960
<v Speaker 16>or one every two years. It's probably the best way

562
00:26:00.960 --> 00:26:01.519
<v Speaker 16>to go about it.

563
00:26:02.839 --> 00:26:05.519
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, sounds about right. We had you on the show

564
00:26:05.759 --> 00:26:08.759
<v Speaker 3>last week, I think it was and knowing you how

565
00:26:08.799 --> 00:26:11.839
<v Speaker 3>I know you and your books and stuff and mine.

566
00:26:12.119 --> 00:26:15.480
<v Speaker 3>You talked about the bomb at Utah and some other things,

567
00:26:15.519 --> 00:26:17.640
<v Speaker 3>you know, Dave sid and of course I wanted you

568
00:26:17.720 --> 00:26:21.519
<v Speaker 3>to kind of relate another story the year that you

569
00:26:21.720 --> 00:26:24.680
<v Speaker 3>got hurt on your right knee or left knee, I

570
00:26:24.720 --> 00:26:28.000
<v Speaker 3>can't remember, but how you kind of evaded the press

571
00:26:28.559 --> 00:26:30.839
<v Speaker 3>and how you trick people and believing in your right

572
00:26:30.920 --> 00:26:32.200
<v Speaker 3>hand left hand with your hook.

573
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<v Speaker 16>Well, about two weeks before our season started my senior year,

574
00:26:37.359 --> 00:26:39.559
<v Speaker 16>I twisted my knee and they said I had torn

575
00:26:39.640 --> 00:26:40.799
<v Speaker 16>car lage on my left knee.

576
00:26:41.079 --> 00:26:41.759
<v Speaker 4>Have you heard this thing?

577
00:26:42.920 --> 00:26:45.519
<v Speaker 16>And so back then, though, you know, it wasn't like today.

578
00:26:46.119 --> 00:26:49.240
<v Speaker 16>There's no way if something like that had happened, everybody

579
00:26:49.240 --> 00:26:51.680
<v Speaker 16>in the world would have already known. Back then, nobody

580
00:26:51.720 --> 00:26:52.079
<v Speaker 16>could tell.

581
00:26:52.960 --> 00:26:53.000
<v Speaker 6>It.

582
00:26:53.160 --> 00:26:55.920
<v Speaker 16>Just meant that if you think about how you play basketball,

583
00:26:57.400 --> 00:27:00.400
<v Speaker 16>if you jump off your left lege, I mean, as

584
00:27:00.400 --> 00:27:03.200
<v Speaker 16>you're shooting the ball right handed, well, my left leg

585
00:27:03.279 --> 00:27:06.480
<v Speaker 16>I was trying to avoid as much as possible, take

586
00:27:06.519 --> 00:27:08.000
<v Speaker 16>it at the end of the year and have surgery

587
00:27:08.079 --> 00:27:12.759
<v Speaker 16>on it. So I played my senior year left handed,

588
00:27:13.599 --> 00:27:16.039
<v Speaker 16>always going to my right leg to go up.

589
00:27:16.880 --> 00:27:17.920
<v Speaker 6>And take the shot.

590
00:27:21.880 --> 00:27:23.400
<v Speaker 4>Did teams not figure that out?

591
00:27:25.279 --> 00:27:25.440
<v Speaker 6>Well?

592
00:27:25.519 --> 00:27:28.880
<v Speaker 16>I was amidextress up to twelve feet, So I mean

593
00:27:28.920 --> 00:27:32.400
<v Speaker 16>it's like pick your poison. And you know, somebody was

594
00:27:32.440 --> 00:27:35.160
<v Speaker 16>talking to me about a week ago, but how do

595
00:27:35.240 --> 00:27:38.039
<v Speaker 16>you do though? And I remember having a conversation with Kareem,

596
00:27:38.160 --> 00:27:41.200
<v Speaker 16>I'll do jabbar and he said, and Kareem, I thought,

597
00:27:41.519 --> 00:27:45.880
<v Speaker 16>articulated very well. If you draw a line down your

598
00:27:45.960 --> 00:27:51.039
<v Speaker 16>spine to the floor and up to the ceiling. That's

599
00:27:51.079 --> 00:27:53.880
<v Speaker 16>why you see NBA guys kind of with their bodies

600
00:27:53.960 --> 00:27:55.680
<v Speaker 16>go back to try to establish contact.

601
00:27:56.799 --> 00:28:00.359
<v Speaker 6>Whatever side of that line they're on means you go

602
00:28:00.400 --> 00:28:00.799
<v Speaker 6>the other way.

603
00:28:02.079 --> 00:28:05.119
<v Speaker 16>It's that simple, because if you go the other way,

604
00:28:05.119 --> 00:28:07.039
<v Speaker 16>they're already behind, and so they got to go through

605
00:28:07.039 --> 00:28:08.000
<v Speaker 16>your body get to the ball.

606
00:28:08.039 --> 00:28:10.000
<v Speaker 6>There's an one and that's it.

607
00:28:10.920 --> 00:28:15.240
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well you didn't finish your story. So you're in St.

608
00:28:15.279 --> 00:28:21.240
<v Speaker 3>Mary's and what happens, Well, so season's over.

609
00:28:21.440 --> 00:28:25.640
<v Speaker 16>I go into Saint Mary's under a different name. They

610
00:28:26.680 --> 00:28:30.200
<v Speaker 16>removed the cartilage in my left knee and I went

611
00:28:30.279 --> 00:28:34.039
<v Speaker 16>in maybe about five o'clock, and about four o'clock the

612
00:28:34.119 --> 00:28:37.640
<v Speaker 16>next morning, they whisked me out out of a back

613
00:28:37.759 --> 00:28:43.279
<v Speaker 16>door and what I remember was the anesthesiologist and I

614
00:28:43.359 --> 00:28:47.680
<v Speaker 16>don't know his name, had just bought this brand new

615
00:28:48.559 --> 00:28:53.279
<v Speaker 16>red and white Rolls Royce convertible and he says, you

616
00:28:53.400 --> 00:28:56.519
<v Speaker 16>want to take a ride in my car? And I'm like, yeah,

617
00:28:56.680 --> 00:28:58.519
<v Speaker 16>I'm twenty one years old, you know I do.

618
00:28:59.799 --> 00:29:01.920
<v Speaker 6>And I ran to this dude, I.

619
00:29:01.920 --> 00:29:05.400
<v Speaker 16>Don't know, six five six months ago and he says,

620
00:29:05.519 --> 00:29:08.079
<v Speaker 16>do you remember me? I said, I'm sorry, I really don't.

621
00:29:08.599 --> 00:29:11.279
<v Speaker 16>He said, I'm not anteshesiologist with I said, no, no,

622
00:29:11.519 --> 00:29:13.799
<v Speaker 16>not the red and white, the vertable.

623
00:29:13.559 --> 00:29:16.839
<v Speaker 6>Rose roy Drude. That car was serious.

624
00:29:18.039 --> 00:29:20.359
<v Speaker 16>So so I go home. And then that's why I

625
00:29:20.440 --> 00:29:24.279
<v Speaker 16>didn't play in any All Star Games that year, because

626
00:29:24.319 --> 00:29:28.160
<v Speaker 16>I couldn't. I was rehabbing that knee. So the excuse

627
00:29:28.240 --> 00:29:31.440
<v Speaker 16>I gave was, hey, you know my academic load. I

628
00:29:31.519 --> 00:29:33.359
<v Speaker 16>can't afford to go over here for a week and

629
00:29:33.400 --> 00:29:35.079
<v Speaker 16>go over there for a week. You know, I had

630
00:29:35.200 --> 00:29:39.359
<v Speaker 16>had an audience class and a finance class, and I

631
00:29:39.400 --> 00:29:41.480
<v Speaker 16>couldn't afford to miss those kind of classes.

632
00:29:42.039 --> 00:29:43.480
<v Speaker 6>But the real reason was I.

633
00:29:43.480 --> 00:29:45.200
<v Speaker 16>Couldn't play for one or two I was in rehab

634
00:29:45.279 --> 00:29:45.799
<v Speaker 16>on that knee.

635
00:29:46.000 --> 00:29:50.440
<v Speaker 4>Wow yet, and you were drafted? Where were you drafted?

636
00:29:50.480 --> 00:29:50.680
<v Speaker 12>Again?

637
00:29:51.519 --> 00:29:55.200
<v Speaker 16>Second round to the Sixers, So the scouts.

638
00:29:55.319 --> 00:29:58.319
<v Speaker 17>The scouts had no idea, what did you get? The

639
00:29:58.359 --> 00:30:01.720
<v Speaker 17>training camp? Still kind of give me, oh no, no,

640
00:30:01.799 --> 00:30:04.720
<v Speaker 17>no about training camp. I was fine, but yeah, yeah,

641
00:30:04.720 --> 00:30:06.400
<v Speaker 17>I was my memory. I played in the summer league,

642
00:30:06.440 --> 00:30:09.799
<v Speaker 17>the Sunny Hill Baker Summer League that the Sixers like,

643
00:30:09.880 --> 00:30:12.920
<v Speaker 17>they had the rookies plan. So I did that, and no,

644
00:30:13.359 --> 00:30:15.839
<v Speaker 17>I was fined by then. But I knew that right

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<v Speaker 17>after the season and the sooner I had the surgery,

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<v Speaker 17>the sooner I could be rehabbed, sooner I'd be back

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<v Speaker 17>to normal.

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<v Speaker 3>We wanted to ask you another quick question before you

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<v Speaker 3>leave NL. What do you think about it today and

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<v Speaker 3>how do you think it would have been back in

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<v Speaker 3>your day.

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<v Speaker 16>Well, first of all, I think they need some restrictions

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<v Speaker 16>on how much is being paid. I mean, this has

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<v Speaker 16>gotten out of hand. But at the same time, I

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<v Speaker 16>would have loved to see some nil back when I

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<v Speaker 16>was in school, because see, when I was in school,

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<v Speaker 16>we could even work. And so there we were married.

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<v Speaker 16>In college, she was picking up jobs stocking jeans and

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<v Speaker 16>stuff and clothing stores and cleaning people's houses, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 16>Because we were trying to, you know, make things stretched

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<v Speaker 16>as much as possible because I wasn't allowed to work,

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<v Speaker 16>and she was on some scholarships. But you know, you

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<v Speaker 16>make it, do I tell you though, the guy that

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<v Speaker 16>saved us, his name was Lowell Hickman. He's a little

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<v Speaker 16>short Jewish guy, ball head, always had a cigar in

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<v Speaker 16>his mouth, and he used to run was called the

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<v Speaker 16>Union Club at the top floor of the student union.

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<v Speaker 16>And hopefully there's a statute of limitations on the store.

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<v Speaker 16>But he said, Bobby, I know it's tough for you

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<v Speaker 16>in bed, So any food we put out here at

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<v Speaker 16>two o'clock we have to remove it and throw it away.

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<v Speaker 16>You just come up here with a bag, so we

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<v Speaker 16>throw it away. You take what you need of the

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<v Speaker 16>roast beef and the turkey and stuff like that. And

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<v Speaker 16>that's why when I used to see that guy after

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<v Speaker 16>I got out of college, I didn't care where we were.

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<v Speaker 16>I didn't care what restaurant it was. His bill came

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<v Speaker 16>to me, I'm paying for his food because he fed

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<v Speaker 16>me when I couldn't feed myself.

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<v Speaker 4>Had nice you had a nice meal plan?

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<v Speaker 6>Then? Oh yeah, no, no he he he said it

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<v Speaker 6>out there.

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<v Speaker 16>We just had to gets like the vegetables and stuff

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<v Speaker 16>like that to go with it.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>Do you think you would have stayed at the U

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<v Speaker 7>of A or would you be one of these guys

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<v Speaker 7>that would maybe go back to Michigan or maybe go

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<v Speaker 7>back and play for Michigan State the way things are now,

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<v Speaker 7>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 6>I really don't know.

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<v Speaker 14>You know.

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<v Speaker 16>It's it's something that the nil like Lynn Gordy, you know,

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<v Speaker 16>my former teammate, he's up at Creighton. Two years ago

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<v Speaker 16>he called me and said, Bird, you know this nil man,

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<v Speaker 16>you've been a two million dollar guy. And I said, jabber,

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<v Speaker 16>you know how I am I still have one point

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<v Speaker 16>ninety nine of it because I don't spend any money,

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<v Speaker 16>So it would have made life a lot easier for us,

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<v Speaker 16>for Beverly and I. But I don't know about all

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<v Speaker 16>this transfer, and it's like it's just no commitment into

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<v Speaker 16>a school, no commitment to a community, right, you know,

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<v Speaker 16>sometimes I wanted to the commitment even getting your education.

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<v Speaker 16>You know, anybody that's transferred schools, No, you don't get

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<v Speaker 16>all your credits to transfer with you.

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<v Speaker 6>So I don't know.

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<v Speaker 16>I just don't see this being something good.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, No, you're exactly right. We talk about that too.

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<v Speaker 3>It takes to be being school for five years, but

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<v Speaker 3>they only have like sophomore credits because they've only been

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<v Speaker 3>around lastly. Because we talk about this with the guys

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<v Speaker 3>every now and again. You stayed, you chose to stay.

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<v Speaker 4>There's a few. Corey Williams have stayed.

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<v Speaker 3>Matt Mulbacher stayed, Joe Nell's why is it Tucson that special?

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<v Speaker 16>A Tucson this special? But in terms of the why,

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<v Speaker 16>you know, the economics are not the same. My rookie

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<v Speaker 16>year in the NBA, the average salary was.

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<v Speaker 6>Seventy five thousand a year, which was better than what.

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<v Speaker 16>My classmates going into big eight CPA firms are going

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<v Speaker 16>to make. But it's not the twelve million year they're

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<v Speaker 16>paying now, I'll be honest with you. They had to

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<v Speaker 16>put me out of the league of ourselves up there.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm not leaving. I'll wait. I'll be that good veteran.

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<v Speaker 6>They could give that a good knowledge to the rookie.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, if you I mean, I mean twelve million

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<v Speaker 6>right for the same the same job.

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<v Speaker 16>Eighty two regular season games, eight exhibition games.

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<v Speaker 6>Hope you make the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 16>And these guys now start call going for loading management

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<v Speaker 16>saying I'm tired, I need a day off.

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<v Speaker 6>What you mean a day off?

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<v Speaker 16>You signed for eighty two I'd be like Michael Jordan

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<v Speaker 16>as an owner. I signed you for eighty two games.

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<v Speaker 16>I want to see you out there for eighty two games,

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<v Speaker 16>right right, you said, like Charles Barkley, Yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 16>it's it's crazy, but I mean they got private planes.

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<v Speaker 16>Beat the flat commercial. You know, you play a game

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<v Speaker 16>and you got a four point thirty wake up car

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<v Speaker 16>to go catch a bus to go catch the flight

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<v Speaker 16>to go to the next town.

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<v Speaker 6>There was no executive chef on board.

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<v Speaker 16>I mean it's just but I mean, hey, it's a

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<v Speaker 16>sign of times things change, right.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, Okay, well as usual, Thank you very much for coming.

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<v Speaker 6>On all right, appreciate it man.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, good luck with that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, thank you, Barb Elliott, good stories, love y sure,

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<v Speaker 3>yeah yeah. We'll take a break here and come back

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, welcome back to Flying the Ball here on Fox

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<v Speaker 3>Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, you're Dave Selbert.

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<v Speaker 4>We got on with us. We got another but ten

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<v Speaker 4>to fifteen whatever, we got about thirteen thirteen.

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<v Speaker 6>Cool.

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<v Speaker 4>That was fun. I'm hoping the phone lines work.

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<v Speaker 3>If you want to call us, please do five to

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<v Speaker 3>two oh four one six seventy four forty. We're experiencing

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<v Speaker 3>I guess people are saying it's busy and they're trying

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<v Speaker 3>to call in.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, I've tried messing with it, but I don't

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<v Speaker 4>know what's going on. There's gonna be a bnon Louise.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll give you a call. Yah, check, yeah, check, we

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<v Speaker 4>should check. I should call and check.

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<v Speaker 3>But again, if you want to call five two oh

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<v Speaker 3>four one six seventy four forty if you want to,

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<v Speaker 3>if I know you, you can text me or send

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<v Speaker 3>me a message and we can call you if you

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<v Speaker 3>want to get on the phone.

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<v Speaker 4>That's because we can call, right. That's how we got

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<v Speaker 4>Bob a week.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, okay, it's stories and Bob Elliot, of course, he's

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<v Speaker 7>been part of the Tucson sports scene for what fifty years.

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<v Speaker 4>On the seventy, yes, mid seventies.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, he's been around and obviously great player and

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<v Speaker 7>has had a wonderful you know where we were away

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<v Speaker 7>from basketball and then we've you know, watched him on

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<v Speaker 7>TV for years and years.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, he's just going to say that to you because

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<v Speaker 3>I think were you not with me when he last week?

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<v Speaker 3>When someone called it, I can't remember who called, uh,

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<v Speaker 3>some guy Joe or whoever said, uh, he missed Bob

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<v Speaker 3>and sitting and I said, well, don't forget Larson. I

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<v Speaker 3>mean back in those days he replaced Larson maybe yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>or they did what of these two did well?

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<v Speaker 7>Larson was the color guy, and then Bob came in.

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<v Speaker 7>I think maybe I don't know Bob was. We'd have

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<v Speaker 7>to kind of check his resume, but I think he

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<v Speaker 7>was doing maybe some other things besides local U of

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<v Speaker 7>A as a broadcaster. But you know, he obviously flourished

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<v Speaker 7>here with with Dave Sitting. That was a good team

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<v Speaker 7>for a long time. And you never well, I said,

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<v Speaker 7>you never left. You were just here for thirty a

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<v Speaker 7>round the house. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because I haven't left

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<v Speaker 7>and I liked you people know me here. Why when

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<v Speaker 7>I leave YouTube? He stayed.

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<v Speaker 4>And like the guys I mentioned Corey and Bill Back

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<v Speaker 4>and Joe Nell, there's a lot to be said.

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<v Speaker 7>And those guys have all had great, you know, great careers,

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<v Speaker 7>whether you know it's lawyers or accountants or you know,

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<v Speaker 7>you name it, business guys. Yeah, and they took advantage

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<v Speaker 7>of their notoriety as basketball players or football Reggie Geary's

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<v Speaker 7>you know now working at the u of A.

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<v Speaker 4>You know it's a good again.

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<v Speaker 7>You're in the spotlight for four years, hopefully you're doing interviews,

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<v Speaker 7>see how you act, and you know you're basically applying

858
00:39:38.079 --> 00:39:39.280
<v Speaker 7>for a job during those four.

859
00:39:39.199 --> 00:39:43.039
<v Speaker 3>Years, you're you're exactly right, and you don't burn bridges,

860
00:39:43.159 --> 00:39:44.239
<v Speaker 3>you don't piss anybody off.

861
00:39:45.119 --> 00:39:45.320
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

862
00:39:45.440 --> 00:39:47.920
<v Speaker 4>No, and the guys you mentioned did exactly or didn't

863
00:39:47.960 --> 00:39:49.880
<v Speaker 4>do that exactly. We're good dudes.

864
00:39:51.239 --> 00:39:54.159
<v Speaker 7>You bring in business because you're you're famous from your

865
00:39:54.199 --> 00:39:56.280
<v Speaker 7>basketball time, and then you have to kind of prove yourself.

866
00:39:57.239 --> 00:39:59.079
<v Speaker 7>I mean, I remember going back way back to Sean

867
00:39:59.119 --> 00:40:01.960
<v Speaker 7>Elliott when he was a uh he was an intern

868
00:40:02.079 --> 00:40:04.840
<v Speaker 7>at one of my friends insurance agencies or something, and

869
00:40:04.920 --> 00:40:06.840
<v Speaker 7>he just loved having Sean Elliott there is a new

870
00:40:07.159 --> 00:40:10.119
<v Speaker 7>You imagine walking in and hey it's it's an All

871
00:40:10.119 --> 00:40:11.480
<v Speaker 7>American basketball player.

872
00:40:11.360 --> 00:40:17.320
<v Speaker 3>Him, her, Jenny Finch. Imagine them in the NIL time. Yeah,

873
00:40:17.880 --> 00:40:20.119
<v Speaker 3>they would be the top earners. They would be making

874
00:40:20.159 --> 00:40:24.039
<v Speaker 3>some major miles, you know miles. Yeah, especially after after

875
00:40:24.079 --> 00:40:25.679
<v Speaker 3>the championship year, if he's stuck around here.

876
00:40:27.960 --> 00:40:29.760
<v Speaker 4>So, yeah, it is busy. It's something I just I

877
00:40:29.760 --> 00:40:30.480
<v Speaker 4>don't know why though.

878
00:40:30.559 --> 00:40:30.719
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

879
00:40:30.719 --> 00:40:35.000
<v Speaker 3>I tried calling it on my own. Yeah, it's really strange.

880
00:40:35.039 --> 00:40:35.760
<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry about that.

881
00:40:35.880 --> 00:40:36.119
<v Speaker 4>Guys.

882
00:40:36.480 --> 00:40:38.679
<v Speaker 3>You can always text me and I will. We'll get

883
00:40:38.679 --> 00:40:41.599
<v Speaker 3>a hold of you. Someone just said, but it's me.

884
00:40:41.679 --> 00:40:43.960
<v Speaker 3>I tried to call what couldn't get in? Yeah, okay,

885
00:40:44.199 --> 00:40:48.239
<v Speaker 3>makes sense again. I'll hope you enjoyed the show. Yeah,

886
00:40:48.239 --> 00:40:49.480
<v Speaker 3>so you know all these guys.

887
00:40:49.360 --> 00:40:51.440
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I mean it's you know, he was talking to

888
00:40:51.679 --> 00:40:55.119
<v Speaker 7>a little bit about you know, your loyalty to your school.

889
00:40:55.159 --> 00:40:57.960
<v Speaker 7>Where does that fall for like a Caleb Love or

890
00:40:58.000 --> 00:40:59.760
<v Speaker 7>someone who's going to go to two or three schools

891
00:40:59.800 --> 00:41:01.880
<v Speaker 7>and you know, all of a sudden, you're fifty years old,

892
00:41:02.000 --> 00:41:03.480
<v Speaker 7>like do I go to homecoming?

893
00:41:03.559 --> 00:41:05.880
<v Speaker 4>Where do I go? Which is to go to all

894
00:41:05.920 --> 00:41:07.039
<v Speaker 4>of them? To all of them?

895
00:41:07.320 --> 00:41:07.360
<v Speaker 6>No?

896
00:41:07.480 --> 00:41:10.119
<v Speaker 3>But you But you're right, especially the education thing. You

897
00:41:10.199 --> 00:41:11.920
<v Speaker 3>go to a school, go to school, go to school,

898
00:41:11.960 --> 00:41:14.840
<v Speaker 3>you're credits stone transfer. By the time you're twenty five

899
00:41:14.960 --> 00:41:16.719
<v Speaker 3>years old, you don't have the what do you stay?

900
00:41:16.840 --> 00:41:17.239
<v Speaker 4>What do you do?

901
00:41:17.960 --> 00:41:20.559
<v Speaker 3>Not that that's a big deal because sometimes they don't

902
00:41:20.599 --> 00:41:21.480
<v Speaker 3>care about the education.

903
00:41:21.599 --> 00:41:23.360
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, and you hear a lot about you know, guys

904
00:41:23.400 --> 00:41:25.360
<v Speaker 7>have gone back after they're jump playing and things like

905
00:41:25.440 --> 00:41:28.079
<v Speaker 7>that and go get their their degree. But you're right,

906
00:41:28.239 --> 00:41:32.960
<v Speaker 7>and many people, not just athletes, they get their undergrad

907
00:41:33.039 --> 00:41:35.079
<v Speaker 7>one place, they go, get their masters another place, their

908
00:41:35.119 --> 00:41:37.440
<v Speaker 7>PhD in another place. So Bob is one of the

909
00:41:37.559 --> 00:41:39.800
<v Speaker 7>you know, rare that real guys that stuck around.

910
00:41:40.039 --> 00:41:42.440
<v Speaker 3>And you know this because you're a part of the business.

911
00:41:42.880 --> 00:41:46.599
<v Speaker 3>Maybe what year was your last year? Twenty eleven, twenty eleven,

912
00:41:46.639 --> 00:41:49.519
<v Speaker 3>So that's the start of it. Greg had showed up,

913
00:41:49.559 --> 00:41:52.119
<v Speaker 3>right burn, Oh yeah, Sean was here. We didn't get

914
00:41:52.159 --> 00:41:56.639
<v Speaker 3>really a lot of access to it. And I'm transitioning

915
00:41:56.639 --> 00:41:59.760
<v Speaker 3>in a weird way, but it became less of the

916
00:42:00.760 --> 00:42:03.559
<v Speaker 3>the player stories, less of the player stories, And how

917
00:42:03.599 --> 00:42:05.719
<v Speaker 3>do you get to know the player stories unless you

918
00:42:05.760 --> 00:42:07.960
<v Speaker 3>tell their stories. But it's hard to put it in

919
00:42:08.079 --> 00:42:09.800
<v Speaker 3>that form because you don't get a whole lot of

920
00:42:09.840 --> 00:42:12.880
<v Speaker 3>time with them. And you're you're looking at the school

921
00:42:13.239 --> 00:42:16.159
<v Speaker 3>itself now, who needs to sell tickets? They need to

922
00:42:16.199 --> 00:42:19.480
<v Speaker 3>be more fan friendly, and if you don't know the players,

923
00:42:19.840 --> 00:42:21.519
<v Speaker 3>how are you going to do that? They just need

924
00:42:21.599 --> 00:42:22.599
<v Speaker 3>to be more accommodating.

925
00:42:24.119 --> 00:42:28.280
<v Speaker 7>However, Yeah, well, the one thing maybe this is different

926
00:42:28.320 --> 00:42:30.840
<v Speaker 7>now than was then was they're on TV all the time.

927
00:42:31.000 --> 00:42:34.440
<v Speaker 7>You do get that viewpoint of these guys, and you know,

928
00:42:34.920 --> 00:42:37.159
<v Speaker 7>we may not know what Caleb Love really thinks, but

929
00:42:37.280 --> 00:42:39.320
<v Speaker 7>we can we can see him on TV. We see

930
00:42:39.360 --> 00:42:41.760
<v Speaker 7>his expressions. That's about all you're getting now. And it

931
00:42:41.840 --> 00:42:44.280
<v Speaker 7>looks like, well it's supposed to maybe some postgame comments

932
00:42:44.480 --> 00:42:44.679
<v Speaker 7>and you.

933
00:42:44.800 --> 00:42:45.760
<v Speaker 4>And you're you're part of this.

934
00:42:45.960 --> 00:42:48.239
<v Speaker 3>You go out to the fan base or the you know,

935
00:42:48.360 --> 00:42:51.440
<v Speaker 3>corporate or whatever world, and and and how you sell

936
00:42:51.519 --> 00:42:53.320
<v Speaker 3>the basketball program when they really don't know who they

937
00:42:53.360 --> 00:42:55.920
<v Speaker 3>are or whatever. You know them because of they're successful,

938
00:42:56.199 --> 00:42:58.760
<v Speaker 3>but you really don't know them. In fact, DeAndre Ayton

939
00:42:58.800 --> 00:43:02.159
<v Speaker 3>when he was here for that first year, we had

940
00:43:02.199 --> 00:43:04.079
<v Speaker 3>little access to them. We you know, talked to maybe

941
00:43:04.079 --> 00:43:06.360
<v Speaker 3>three or four times in the season on the podium.

942
00:43:06.559 --> 00:43:08.400
<v Speaker 3>And then we go to the Pac twelve tournament and

943
00:43:09.079 --> 00:43:11.920
<v Speaker 3>lockers are open, and you see this young dude who

944
00:43:12.079 --> 00:43:14.079
<v Speaker 3>just wants to have fun and enjoys life. It is

945
00:43:14.199 --> 00:43:16.760
<v Speaker 3>very funny, and you're thinking, these are the stories that

946
00:43:16.840 --> 00:43:19.639
<v Speaker 3>we should be telling all the time, but you want

947
00:43:19.679 --> 00:43:20.639
<v Speaker 3>to get them a certain window.

948
00:43:21.920 --> 00:43:22.400
<v Speaker 4>I agree.

949
00:43:22.599 --> 00:43:24.400
<v Speaker 7>I mean, you know, I kind of, like I said,

950
00:43:24.400 --> 00:43:25.840
<v Speaker 7>I was kind of there and sort of as this

951
00:43:25.920 --> 00:43:27.920
<v Speaker 7>thing was happening, it was kind of switching out to

952
00:43:28.440 --> 00:43:32.280
<v Speaker 7>full access to barely any access. And that's just the

953
00:43:32.360 --> 00:43:35.400
<v Speaker 7>way some of these organizations, whether it's universities or professional teams,

954
00:43:35.480 --> 00:43:38.360
<v Speaker 7>kind of orchestrate who gets to talk and the messaging,

955
00:43:38.480 --> 00:43:41.119
<v Speaker 7>and I'm sure they're coached quite a bit and told,

956
00:43:41.320 --> 00:43:44.679
<v Speaker 7>you know, say certain things or don't disparage your teammates.

957
00:43:44.840 --> 00:43:47.360
<v Speaker 3>And you know this just as well as me, or

958
00:43:47.440 --> 00:43:49.960
<v Speaker 3>if not better. People who are fans, like the the

959
00:43:50.360 --> 00:43:54.639
<v Speaker 3>the the ones here, they support the program. They support

960
00:43:54.679 --> 00:43:57.000
<v Speaker 3>the program, not necessarily the players, because the players come

961
00:43:57.000 --> 00:43:59.280
<v Speaker 3>and go right now, it's they're helping you, of a

962
00:44:00.000 --> 00:44:03.679
<v Speaker 3>They're loyal to you. They not to the the Alcans

963
00:44:03.800 --> 00:44:05.880
<v Speaker 3>or the Treers or whatever. Exactly, those dudes come and

964
00:44:05.920 --> 00:44:08.480
<v Speaker 3>go exactly. In fact, how often do they come back?

965
00:44:09.159 --> 00:44:10.880
<v Speaker 4>True? Not often?

966
00:44:10.960 --> 00:44:11.360
<v Speaker 6>Not often.

967
00:44:11.440 --> 00:44:13.239
<v Speaker 7>I mean it's like a big deal when you know

968
00:44:13.280 --> 00:44:15.519
<v Speaker 7>when there is on a play duke this year and yeah,

969
00:44:15.559 --> 00:44:17.199
<v Speaker 7>I mean they brought back, you know, a nice little

970
00:44:17.239 --> 00:44:19.360
<v Speaker 7>all star team with Bibby and those kind of guys.

971
00:44:19.639 --> 00:44:24.800
<v Speaker 7>Gilbert Gilbert was there. Yeah, but you're right, I think

972
00:44:24.840 --> 00:44:26.719
<v Speaker 7>they got their degrees. So maybe they'll come back for

973
00:44:27.280 --> 00:44:29.440
<v Speaker 7>you know, other reasons. Well, and they're sending their kids here.

974
00:44:29.559 --> 00:44:33.440
<v Speaker 7>Perhaps you have the status of okay, you got you

975
00:44:33.519 --> 00:44:36.480
<v Speaker 7>got the furix. You know the curs, you're the Jeffersons

976
00:44:36.760 --> 00:44:38.360
<v Speaker 7>who actually give money back money.

977
00:44:38.760 --> 00:44:43.360
<v Speaker 3>But but how many of them don't. It's a very

978
00:44:43.519 --> 00:44:46.719
<v Speaker 3>big percentage who have done really well with themselves.

979
00:44:47.119 --> 00:44:49.480
<v Speaker 7>I mean there's a there's a letter Winners Club I

980
00:44:49.719 --> 00:44:52.599
<v Speaker 7>think it's still called in the athletic department, and they're

981
00:44:52.800 --> 00:44:56.800
<v Speaker 7>kind of the group of people that are you know,

982
00:44:57.039 --> 00:45:02.880
<v Speaker 7>contacted by athletics. It's it's an interesting dynamic because when

983
00:45:02.920 --> 00:45:06.599
<v Speaker 7>I was fundraising, I could be fundraising for you know,

984
00:45:06.760 --> 00:45:10.119
<v Speaker 7>the Department of Communication. But the guy wants to give

985
00:45:10.159 --> 00:45:12.360
<v Speaker 7>to athletics. I mean, you know, you should never knew

986
00:45:12.599 --> 00:45:13.960
<v Speaker 7>you never knew really what you were going to get.

987
00:45:14.000 --> 00:45:15.719
<v Speaker 7>Sometimes she needs me. You knew what they majored in

988
00:45:16.320 --> 00:45:18.239
<v Speaker 7>things like that, right, But just because a guy played

989
00:45:18.280 --> 00:45:20.760
<v Speaker 7>basketball here doesn't mean he wants to give to basketball.

990
00:45:20.760 --> 00:45:20.840
<v Speaker 9>Oh.

991
00:45:20.920 --> 00:45:23.000
<v Speaker 4>You would find that the ex player.

992
00:45:23.000 --> 00:45:25.480
<v Speaker 7>Sometimes didn't care, could care less, or they you know,

993
00:45:25.519 --> 00:45:27.639
<v Speaker 7>maybe they didn't have a great experience, maybe they had

994
00:45:27.719 --> 00:45:30.079
<v Speaker 7>this animosity tour. As a coach, I totally get that

995
00:45:30.239 --> 00:45:32.239
<v Speaker 7>same thing. I had a terrible professor in you know,

996
00:45:32.320 --> 00:45:33.920
<v Speaker 7>in English. I'm not going to give to that point.

997
00:45:34.199 --> 00:45:36.280
<v Speaker 7>We would get those stories all the time. Yeah, they

998
00:45:36.480 --> 00:45:39.119
<v Speaker 7>did have a magical experience where it all kind of

999
00:45:39.199 --> 00:45:39.679
<v Speaker 7>came together.

1000
00:45:39.840 --> 00:45:41.960
<v Speaker 3>But doesn't it make sense, Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1001
00:45:41.960 --> 00:45:43.559
<v Speaker 3>I'm not going to give money of my exl that

1002
00:45:43.760 --> 00:45:44.079
<v Speaker 3>I had.

1003
00:45:44.000 --> 00:45:44.519
<v Speaker 4>A bad time.

1004
00:45:44.639 --> 00:45:46.599
<v Speaker 7>No, I mean, so much of it is their experience

1005
00:45:46.679 --> 00:45:49.679
<v Speaker 7>on campus and whether or not they led to a

1006
00:45:49.800 --> 00:45:51.800
<v Speaker 7>job that gave them the success to be able to

1007
00:45:51.840 --> 00:45:54.280
<v Speaker 7>give so totally get it. That was part of part

1008
00:45:54.320 --> 00:45:56.199
<v Speaker 7>of it when you had to kind of decipher as

1009
00:45:56.199 --> 00:45:58.519
<v Speaker 7>you're meeting these people, like, oh, yeah, I was a

1010
00:45:58.599 --> 00:46:00.679
<v Speaker 7>huge when I was a student, used to go to

1011
00:46:00.719 --> 00:46:03.199
<v Speaker 7>all the games. I love the Wildcats. But then you know,

1012
00:46:03.280 --> 00:46:05.960
<v Speaker 7>now I'm sixty and I don't know anything about these guys.

1013
00:46:06.000 --> 00:46:08.159
<v Speaker 7>I never get to hear from them, right, they never

1014
00:46:08.280 --> 00:46:09.599
<v Speaker 7>called me? How come you're calling me?

1015
00:46:09.639 --> 00:46:10.760
<v Speaker 4>Why are you calling you know? What do you want?

1016
00:46:10.880 --> 00:46:13.000
<v Speaker 4>Do they? Would they actually say that to you? Well,

1017
00:46:13.559 --> 00:46:15.639
<v Speaker 4>that's a case study in in all this.

1018
00:46:16.519 --> 00:46:18.960
<v Speaker 7>I was listening to something I think it was about

1019
00:46:18.960 --> 00:46:21.519
<v Speaker 7>Ohio State just after they won the championship. They have

1020
00:46:21.679 --> 00:46:25.199
<v Speaker 7>like eight hundred thousand alumni. Yeah, and Arizona has around

1021
00:46:25.280 --> 00:46:28.199
<v Speaker 7>four about half that number. So can you imagine just

1022
00:46:28.760 --> 00:46:31.599
<v Speaker 7>the size of the development staff and some of these universities. Sure,

1023
00:46:31.760 --> 00:46:33.639
<v Speaker 7>and they've got here and it's doing well, right, it's

1024
00:46:33.679 --> 00:46:34.199
<v Speaker 7>doing well.

1025
00:46:34.360 --> 00:46:40.760
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, seemingly it's it's an interesting, interesting part of the

1026
00:46:40.840 --> 00:46:41.440
<v Speaker 4>university scene.

1027
00:46:41.599 --> 00:46:44.480
<v Speaker 3>And the reality of it is that Arizona will I'm

1028
00:46:44.519 --> 00:46:47.559
<v Speaker 3>saying this with my audience being arizonaats that it will

1029
00:46:47.639 --> 00:46:51.400
<v Speaker 3>never be Ohio State in that money world, right, or

1030
00:46:51.519 --> 00:46:54.199
<v Speaker 3>the Texas or the Balance or whatever.

1031
00:46:54.599 --> 00:46:54.880
<v Speaker 6>I mean.

1032
00:46:54.920 --> 00:46:57.480
<v Speaker 7>You know, when you're at Stanford and you're you know,

1033
00:46:57.639 --> 00:47:00.400
<v Speaker 7>two miles away from Google and Yahoo and and these

1034
00:47:00.440 --> 00:47:03.280
<v Speaker 7>are alums that are starting these companies, right, you know.

1035
00:47:03.320 --> 00:47:06.400
<v Speaker 4>They're right there. They have that advantage going for them

1036
00:47:06.400 --> 00:47:07.920
<v Speaker 4>in the Bay Area. They also have to hope that

1037
00:47:08.000 --> 00:47:10.440
<v Speaker 4>there was a good experience, right, and they love the place.

1038
00:47:10.760 --> 00:47:13.559
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, but you know, when your endowment is in the

1039
00:47:13.639 --> 00:47:16.920
<v Speaker 7>thirty billion range or whatever Stanfords is or USC they

1040
00:47:16.960 --> 00:47:19.599
<v Speaker 7>can just turn around to Hollywood and just say, you know,

1041
00:47:20.760 --> 00:47:23.119
<v Speaker 7>George Lucas, do you want to name the school after you?

1042
00:47:23.280 --> 00:47:23.880
<v Speaker 4>Or whatever?

1043
00:47:24.280 --> 00:47:27.360
<v Speaker 3>Sure, Steven Spielberg, did you find it? I probably asked

1044
00:47:27.360 --> 00:47:29.239
<v Speaker 3>you this question a thousand times. Did you find it difficult?

1045
00:47:30.320 --> 00:47:33.480
<v Speaker 4>And yeah? And the ask is a different, different beast

1046
00:47:33.519 --> 00:47:35.440
<v Speaker 4>because I know I couldn't do it. Yeah, depends on

1047
00:47:35.639 --> 00:47:36.679
<v Speaker 4>who who you were talking to.

1048
00:47:36.960 --> 00:47:38.760
<v Speaker 7>You really had to you had to really get a

1049
00:47:38.840 --> 00:47:41.960
<v Speaker 7>relationship going with people, and it got easier as the

1050
00:47:42.039 --> 00:47:44.360
<v Speaker 7>relationship goes on. I mean it's usually you know, a

1051
00:47:44.480 --> 00:47:47.559
<v Speaker 7>major gift is not going to come instantly unless they're

1052
00:47:47.559 --> 00:47:49.639
<v Speaker 7>going to just say, Okay, i'll give you X amount of.

1053
00:47:49.639 --> 00:47:51.000
<v Speaker 4>Dollars, but usually you want more.

1054
00:47:51.320 --> 00:47:52.960
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, oh, rest of your mind, you're going, oh, you're

1055
00:47:52.960 --> 00:47:55.280
<v Speaker 7>going to give me, you know, ten thousand dollars, Well

1056
00:47:55.480 --> 00:47:56.760
<v Speaker 7>you could probably give me twenty five.

1057
00:47:56.920 --> 00:47:57.079
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

1058
00:47:57.119 --> 00:47:58.719
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And do you say you asked that?

1059
00:47:59.119 --> 00:48:01.639
<v Speaker 7>Could you have to kind of dance around, dance around

1060
00:48:01.679 --> 00:48:03.559
<v Speaker 7>a little bit and just kind of prove what that

1061
00:48:03.679 --> 00:48:04.400
<v Speaker 7>money is gonna do.

1062
00:48:04.519 --> 00:48:06.320
<v Speaker 3>Dave, I'll give you ten million. Don't call me back

1063
00:48:06.480 --> 00:48:10.199
<v Speaker 3>exactly what we did. That happen ten million or something

1064
00:48:10.239 --> 00:48:10.400
<v Speaker 3>like that.

1065
00:48:10.519 --> 00:48:10.719
<v Speaker 16>Yeah.

1066
00:48:10.719 --> 00:48:12.360
<v Speaker 7>They would sometimes say this is gonna be my last

1067
00:48:12.400 --> 00:48:14.159
<v Speaker 7>gift for a while. Yeah, you know, call me in

1068
00:48:14.199 --> 00:48:16.800
<v Speaker 7>five years. That's kind of how it plays. And that

1069
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<v Speaker 7>happens in athletics, and it happens.

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<v Speaker 3>I could have see I can see that happening here

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<v Speaker 3>because I mean, how deep in the pockets.

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<v Speaker 7>Believe me, there's people out there. Yeah, I mean, I

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<v Speaker 7>gotta find those things you know you need, they're out there.

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<v Speaker 7>If you're looking just for that kind of money out there.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, and they gotta want to do it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Like you said, there's a lot of factors that

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<v Speaker 3>didn't have a good time to have kids going there.

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<v Speaker 4>Now you know, am I paying tuition?

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<v Speaker 16>Now?

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<v Speaker 4>That was always a good excuse, like you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>already paying.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm paying my kids tuition. Well yeah, yeah, we'll talk

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<v Speaker 7>to you in four years years. Yeah, how would do

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<v Speaker 7>we do it on time?

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<v Speaker 6>Rambling? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>No, no, no, we're good and a half.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, okay, sure, See when you get your degree and

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<v Speaker 3>you get your job, you'll be on the one.

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<v Speaker 4>Mister s here, you're doing well that well. You can

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<v Speaker 4>answer the phone though, that's the hardest part, just getting

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<v Speaker 4>the meetings. It's silver again, that's six number from the

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<v Speaker 4>University of Arizona. Why are they calling the want one thing?

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<v Speaker 4>It's the nil money. That's a whole other ballgame. But

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<v Speaker 4>have you talked with them on the show.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we've had them. It's it's it's and they're innovative.

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<v Speaker 3>They're trying to do as much as they can in

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<v Speaker 3>different areas. Right, every team has their own little bucket. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't MBM because it's a tough.

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<v Speaker 7>Time there's a lot of people out there and a

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<v Speaker 7>lot of things to that they could give to, So

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<v Speaker 7>you have to kind of match that interest and passion.

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<v Speaker 3>And sorry, Dacion was just called a gift to him, right,

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<v Speaker 3>it's like treating true to treat. Sorry, there's no more candy.

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<v Speaker 3>If you have no more candy left.

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<v Speaker 7>The the thing is to get to them and ask

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<v Speaker 7>them what they're interested in, not what I'm interested Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>what do you care about? Yeah, that was That's kind

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<v Speaker 7>of how the conversation would begin. And then then you

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<v Speaker 7>can play along. What if it didn't fit your wheelhouse, well,

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<v Speaker 7>you try to find place where it would. Sometimes you say,

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<v Speaker 7>you know what, we can't control that. We can't just

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<v Speaker 7>create a major for you because you wanted to create

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<v Speaker 7>a major. It doesn't just work that way.

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<v Speaker 4>We would you get that script in the back of

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<v Speaker 4>your bucket or well you have to just.

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<v Speaker 7>Kind of go along with the rules of the U

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<v Speaker 7>of A or the Board of Regents or where everything's

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<v Speaker 7>like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, okay, well, thanks Dave for coming into the chair

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<v Speaker 3>one as usual. Thank you very much. Tomorrow, I hope

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<v Speaker 3>to have these phones fixed so we can get some calls.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks everybody for listening. Thanks Bob Elliott, and thank you

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<v Speaker 3>to Eric Rhodes.
