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Speaker 3: It's best kid Strange.
Speaker 4: Serial killers do on a small scale what governments doing
Speaker 4: the large for. They are a product of the times,
Speaker 4: and these are blood thirsty times. Even psychopaths have emotions
Speaker 4: if you dig deep enough.
Speaker 3: But then again, maybe they don't.
Speaker 5: I'll tell you what I gave up a love and
Speaker 5: happiness a long time ago. Is killing, whether it done
Speaker 5: for duty, profit or fund. Men murdered themselves into this democracy.
Speaker 5: There are different sects of Satanist. A Satanist admits to
Speaker 5: being evil. We are all evil in some form, more
Speaker 5: or nothing, are we not? Yes, I adamual, not one
Speaker 5: hundred percent what I am, even people has always existed
Speaker 5: the perfect world most people seek. She'll never come to pass. Yes,
Speaker 5: I am an ether, not one hundred percent what I am,
Speaker 5: even people has always existed, the.
Speaker 3: Perfect world most people seek. She'll never come to pass,
Speaker 3: and it's going to get worse.
Speaker 6: Creepy ass looking dude, but so it it's part two.
Speaker 6: Is it acceptable to do another dad joke?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah it's it counts as another episode technically, yes.
Speaker 6: So I gave I gave my kids like one. Oh
Speaker 6: it does okay, cool. So yeah, the kids are blowing
Speaker 6: the whistle inside the house. I told them to stop,
Speaker 6: and I warned them. I gave him one last chance,
Speaker 6: but they blew it.
Speaker 2: So dumb man, We'll do it live.
Speaker 7: That's the point. We'll do it a lot. Fuck it,
Speaker 7: do it live. I can go alrighte it and we'll
Speaker 7: do it a lot.
Speaker 2: So we don't get to do this that often. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna I'm gonna have some fireball, so you know, for
Speaker 2: all the fans that are listening, that have listened since
Speaker 2: we used to get plastered on this show. I'm not
Speaker 2: gonna get plastered. But I'm gonna get a nice buzz on.
Speaker 2: Uh so this should be a fun time. We were
Speaker 2: back with part two of Richard Ramirez. I have my
Speaker 2: own dad joke I heard the other day, made me laugh,
Speaker 2: made me chuckle quite hard. Do you want to hear it?
Speaker 7: Is it a dad joke?
Speaker 2: How was the first copper wire invented? How do they
Speaker 2: make the first copper It was two jews fighting over
Speaker 2: a penny. God's so funny? Oh man, So yeah we are.
Speaker 2: We are back Richer Mirrors, Part two. If you missed
Speaker 2: part one, we just we talked about his childhood in
Speaker 2: the lead up the Highway to Hell, so to speak.
Speaker 2: Everyone should remember this nice haircut that he had. He
Speaker 2: was he was a disturbed youth. And you can listen
Speaker 2: to the first part to understand more about his childhood
Speaker 2: and how boy, how he grew up. So just to
Speaker 2: get the starlets, get us back in the mood of
Speaker 2: Richer Ramirez in the serial killer vibes, And let's play
Speaker 2: another clip of the infamous night stucker in.
Speaker 8: The summer of nineteen eighty five, the Texas Drifter descended
Speaker 8: like a deadly disease on a hot California night. A
Speaker 8: one man epidemic of madness and murder. One of America's
Speaker 8: for serial killers to be given a brand name, the
Speaker 8: name the night Stalker.
Speaker 7: Lock your doors, lock your windows, if you have the
Speaker 7: ability to provide additional security devices, and by all means
Speaker 7: do so. Who wants to be next? I know no
Speaker 7: one else does.
Speaker 8: He preyed on both women and men, young and old.
Speaker 8: He slipped through windows, slit throats, raped, tortured, and killed.
Speaker 4: What he did to me has been the total destruction
Speaker 4: of my life, in my girlfriend's life.
Speaker 8: Former computer engineer Bill Carnes one of Ramirez's many victims.
Speaker 8: One night, Carnes and his girlfriend were assaulted in their bed.
Speaker 8: The woman was raped and Bill Carnes shot three times
Speaker 8: in the head. Bill Carnes ended up in a group
Speaker 8: hump with a bullet still lodged in his brain.
Speaker 7: He's told the memory he took my girlfriend, he took
Speaker 7: my career.
Speaker 4: This was just an unprovoked account.
Speaker 8: But after dozens of such attacks, police identified their suspect,
Speaker 8: and on the morning of August Firth was nineteen eighty five.
Speaker 8: Richard Ramirez's picture ran on front pages, and within hours,
Speaker 8: angry residents of this East la neighborhood spotted captured and
Speaker 8: then severely beat Richard Ramirez as he tried to steal
Speaker 8: a car to evade police.
Speaker 9: We're happy to announce that the individual we have in
Speaker 9: custody is Richard Ramirez.
Speaker 2: Yes, we'll be getting to all of that. So let
Speaker 2: me crack open the fireball.
Speaker 7: I like, how they what did I do? I've done
Speaker 7: nothing wrong? Have you?
Speaker 2: Have you prayed to your Lloyd and saviors?
Speaker 7: They didn't do that.
Speaker 6: And I didn't think there was no section in the
Speaker 6: Bible where they talked about internet connection.
Speaker 7: I didn't know. I didn't know that was in his realm.
Speaker 2: I love Satan Jesus.
Speaker 6: I lik him to click though it was in the
Speaker 6: clip you just showed. It was like, if you have
Speaker 6: extra money to physically be able to buy like security
Speaker 6: cameras and stuff, do it. But if you don't have
Speaker 6: the money, then you're just like kind of screwed. Is
Speaker 6: that what they're getting at?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, uh so yeah, this is we are back with
Speaker 2: the Nightstock are pretty exciting stuff. We are alive. Everybody,
Speaker 2: Hopefully Billy is not too laggy and uh, you know, as.
Speaker 6: You know the Nightstalk. I remember that guy, Remember.
Speaker 2: So let's get into it. Obviously, if you were here
Speaker 2: with us last time, you'll remember all about the beginnings
Speaker 2: the Highway to Hell, as we talked about of one
Speaker 2: of the most infamous serial killers of all time, Richard Ramirez,
Speaker 2: who claimed many victims and had no no remorse and
Speaker 2: went full tilts in Brazik remote And we'll be getting
Speaker 2: to that at some point, but we'll take it off
Speaker 2: from where we left off. Essentially, he started he supposed
Speaker 2: to be abducted that we know of a little girl,
Speaker 2: and uh, yeah, it didn't. It wasn't fun.
Speaker 7: So that was the beginning of the whole.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he started ramping up. He was abused as a kid.
Speaker 2: His father beat him with baseball bats and then his
Speaker 2: father's like, I didn't do that, but he did. And
Speaker 2: then one day Richard grabbed the bat and then he
Speaker 2: started beating his dad and then they just beat off
Speaker 2: each other. It was a fun time. Some Mexicans do.
Speaker 7: Don't you talk about my family that way.
Speaker 2: You're looking clear and crystal. Now that's good. You look
Speaker 2: very white today. I said before we let live Street.
Speaker 7: It's bad man.
Speaker 6: So yeah, we'll tell people sorry for my lighting in general.
Speaker 6: So yeah, you had another thing that possibly could go wrong.
Speaker 6: Come back, and yeah, every freaking light bulb in those
Speaker 6: goddamn place except for one blue.
Speaker 7: So I got this weird ass lamp in the back.
Speaker 2: Nice you kind of look like you're in the eighties vibe,
Speaker 2: Like it does feel like that vibe?
Speaker 7: Well, of course it does. I'm in a freaking camper from.
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, for sure. So we're just gonna pick it
Speaker 2: off where we left off. On the night of June
Speaker 2: twenty eighth, nineteen eighty four, after shooting up some coke
Speaker 2: can and smoking some pot, he wandered into the small
Speaker 2: Los Angeles suburb of glassel Glassow Park. Sitting an apartment
Speaker 2: with a window open. He removed the screen and slipped in.
Speaker 2: Slide slipped, slipped in, slipped quietly inside, slipped in slide.
Speaker 2: He uh, you know, because originally what they were starting
Speaker 2: to call him eventually when he does when they start
Speaker 2: to ramp up, he always wanted the name the night Stucker,
Speaker 2: but he didn't get it. He he actually liked night
Speaker 2: Prowler because of ac DC. But so he's kind of
Speaker 2: take started taking kind of opportunity when he could to
Speaker 2: kind of uh start branching because branching out into this
Speaker 2: this criminal life because obviously, as we talked about, he loved,
Speaker 2: uh seeing dead photos of Vietnamese women that his cousin
Speaker 2: did horrible things too when he was in Vietnam, and
Speaker 2: he was fascinated by that. And then obviously his cousin, yeah,
Speaker 2: did did what he did to his wife in front
Speaker 2: of Richie Ramirez at a very young age. So it
Speaker 2: kind of rubbed off of him and being like, I
Speaker 2: like that, Yeah.
Speaker 7: Well I didn't know you could do that. I know
Speaker 7: we're allowed to do.
Speaker 2: That, so he yeah. And it's so funny because there
Speaker 2: is a lot of serial killers that did join the
Speaker 2: army or were part of the army as where as
Speaker 2: it is Jeffrey Dahmer was, Joe and Gacy might have been,
Speaker 2: but or like the Navy, there a lot of people
Speaker 2: were in that. The thing is they never got to
Speaker 2: see combat, which I feel like, if you want a soldier,
Speaker 2: I feel like a serial killer, like something like I said,
Speaker 2: a little psychopath. You know, you don't know if they're
Speaker 2: gonna be a serial killer yet, but like you know,
Speaker 2: if you're gonna have you imagine if you had an
Speaker 2: army of Richard Ramirez is you know, then Ukraine might
Speaker 2: finally win against the Russians, which I don't think they're
Speaker 2: going to, but you know, but look about it, right.
Speaker 7: That's that's terrifying.
Speaker 6: There was actually, uh there was a I was actually
Speaker 6: gonna talk to you about that. There was an amberler
Speaker 6: here in uh Marrimachi just went off like went off
Speaker 6: of my phone like nine times that I.
Speaker 7: So basically I didn't have any information or anything.
Speaker 6: But at first they were just like, hey, lock your doors,
Speaker 6: like everyone lock up, like this guy's arm dangerous and.
Speaker 7: We thought it was gonna be like another Alan Leasure
Speaker 7: type of thing.
Speaker 6: But sorry, lagging a bit, I go talk to some
Speaker 6: people like they're like, oh, do you know who that was?
Speaker 6: And I was like no, And they were saying that
Speaker 6: he was known for raping a bunch of little girls
Speaker 6: out on the reserve and somebody just took matters into
Speaker 6: his own hands and fucking killed that guy.
Speaker 7: And then the guy that killed him.
Speaker 6: Was out wanted saying he's out like everyone like they
Speaker 6: made this big like media presence saying that like, oh
Speaker 6: he's the dangerous one.
Speaker 2: Of course, it's just so funny because like you know,
Speaker 2: in Canada, right like you have no right to protect yourself.
Speaker 2: But because they like you know, a lot of crime
Speaker 2: is happening. He has gone through the roof, and to
Speaker 2: be honest, somebody hurt child. I don't know what I
Speaker 2: would do. I would probably fly right off the handle
Speaker 2: because it's not fair. You know, it's happening all over
Speaker 2: the UK. I'm not gonna get to this stuff because
Speaker 2: it makes me very very angry. Sorry for that accent. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: we live in wild times. Is probably only gonna get worse.
Speaker 2: That's why this is cut to me. This is light
Speaker 2: and fun. Man talking about a murderer that just like
Speaker 2: just slaughtered people in their homes to snuck through the
Speaker 2: windows seems kind of light in the avenue of how
Speaker 2: darkness fun darkening. This world is getting so and we
Speaker 2: haven't really dive into a deep dive into a serial killer.
Speaker 2: So I really want to do Richard and Mare's justice.
Speaker 2: So we decided to do two parts. No way we'ld
Speaker 2: be able to cover it all. We'd be here for
Speaker 2: like four hours. Uh So he sees the window open.
Speaker 2: You know, he's just smoking his cocaine, smoke a little
Speaker 2: pot or he's shooting he's shooting up cocaine, so he's
Speaker 2: injecting it into his vein. That's fun. Uh, And he's
Speaker 2: smoking pot so you know, going right to the vein,
Speaker 2: finds this wandering around aimlessly. So he's that apartment window
Speaker 2: open and he slips inside, sleeping there with seventy nine
Speaker 2: year old Jeanie Vincow Ricky. You went through her things quietly,
Speaker 2: but the woman had nothing of real value that he
Speaker 2: could steal standing over her bed as she slept. So imagine,
Speaker 2: just imagine, just imagine this guy just like standing over
Speaker 2: your bed, just the quietly breathing as you're you know,
Speaker 2: as you're trying to sleep what you would be asleep,
Speaker 2: And that's you know, take it selfie's in your bathroom,
Speaker 2: like you don't know what he's doing in there.
Speaker 7: Who made photo?
Speaker 2: I don't know. It's so weird. All the auto listeners
Speaker 2: it's Richard Ramirez. But he's like in a bathroom taking
Speaker 2: like a selfie out a cell phone he wouldn't have
Speaker 2: had at that time, but he would. He would be
Speaker 2: a scary guy to have like popping like over your
Speaker 2: bed and you wake up and you think it's like
Speaker 2: a shadow man, but no, it's it's Richard Ramirez. He's real.
Speaker 2: He's real. It's a real guy.
Speaker 7: So he appreciate that image. Thank you. I'm very happy
Speaker 7: to think about that one going about the night.
Speaker 2: Just can't think about it. And his stinky, stinky bad
Speaker 2: breath is like terrible, terrible bad breath because it's gnarly teeth. Yeah, man,
Speaker 2: he had halotosis.
Speaker 7: Oh that's right, that's right. I remember that now.
Speaker 2: His like mouth was rotting from the inside. Man, So
Speaker 2: it is crazy. Imagine how long you have to go
Speaker 2: to not definitely not brushing his teeth ever, Yeah, he's flop.
Speaker 6: That's like probably like the biggest like disgusting thing. Like
Speaker 6: you can have any dysmorphia condition anything, and like nothing's
Speaker 6: like actually as gross as fucking gross breath and teeth.
Speaker 2: What about like it's really stinky, really stinky vadge because
Speaker 2: I've I've experienced that not like like beside me, beside me,
Speaker 2: and it was like washed.
Speaker 10: It was a quick clarification, you know, but the only
Speaker 10: thing but you can't like all the there's no like
Speaker 10: no Ah, like I don't want to talk to you
Speaker 10: if someone has bad breath, Like I'm immediate, like you
Speaker 10: can be the nicest man in the world.
Speaker 7: I'm not talking to you anymore. We're done. This conversation's over.
Speaker 7: I don't want to smell that.
Speaker 2: The only thing that Richer Ramirez flosses with is panties
Speaker 2: of dead women that he murdered.
Speaker 7: Yeah. See that might be where the howlatosis came from.
Speaker 7: You think maybe.
Speaker 3: Serial killer on the loose.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So he finally could fulfill He realized how he's
Speaker 2: staying over there. He's like, I can I can fulfill
Speaker 2: my fantasy. I can. I can do this man, I
Speaker 2: can become m I can kill you know. So death
Speaker 2: would be her payment. He stabbed her left breast, then
Speaker 2: slit her throat, nearly decapitating her. There was so much blood.
Speaker 2: He ran his hands down the sides of her bed,
Speaker 2: the blood lubricating the sheets and her skin. There was
Speaker 2: that much blood. At some point he subjected her to
Speaker 2: sexual assault, not thinking about leaving DNA there. Crime scene
Speaker 2: forensic teams were far away from like the essentially identifying seamen,
Speaker 2: so he laughed softly as he left. The euphoria of
Speaker 2: the killings was like nothing he's ever experienced. He knew
Speaker 2: it was only a matter of time before he did
Speaker 2: it again, and he did it took ten months, but
Speaker 2: Ricky followed a woman into a garage as she pulled
Speaker 2: her car in after work. She was surprised to see
Speaker 2: him there by, but the twenty two year old Maria
Speaker 2: Hernandez had only moments to think before she raised her
Speaker 2: pistol to He raised his pistol to shoot her. So
Speaker 2: she held her hands in front of her face, and
Speaker 2: the bullet deflected off of her car keys. Dude, wilds you,
Speaker 2: is there a god she's praying to hazeus? Because like
Speaker 2: that's crazy, man.
Speaker 6: What what do you have on your car keys? Like
Speaker 6: you think it would just go right through that? Like now,
Speaker 6: shouldn't deflect the bullet?
Speaker 2: Pretty sure? He was using a twenty two, so he
Speaker 2: was using like a shitty pistol, right, so like still
Speaker 2: they're car keys? Pretty crazy? Like what a what a
Speaker 2: turn of fate? Right like like and actually we'll think
Speaker 2: about it too.
Speaker 6: How strong are you holding those keys because like the
Speaker 6: pressure from the bullet immediately like it would turn it
Speaker 6: Like you don't have iron fist to like hold that
Speaker 6: shit steady.
Speaker 1: I know, serial killer who only kills people who eat cereal?
Speaker 2: Stupid stupid, So she dropped to the ground playing dead,
Speaker 2: which is kind of smart. As Ricky continued to go
Speaker 2: into her condo where her roommate Daily Daily A Kazaki whatever,
Speaker 2: I'm not going to pronounce. Some of them are very names.
Speaker 3: Was.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry to the victims. If there families, If you're VIC,
Speaker 2: I don't know why you'd be listening to this. If
Speaker 2: you're if you're a fan, I can't imagine, but I apologize.
Speaker 2: If I'm something about last names, I always seemed to
Speaker 2: seem to get me. Uh. Maria rolled out from under
Speaker 2: her car when she where she was hiding and ran
Speaker 2: across the alley right as Rickie was coming out of
Speaker 2: her condo. She begged for her life, and for some reason,
Speaker 2: he spared her. Unfortunately, he did not spare Dale. It's
Speaker 2: d A Y l E Daily. It's so so, that's sharing.
Speaker 2: It's called Dave. He's lying in an ever growing pool
Speaker 2: of thick blood, so dark it later described by an
Speaker 2: officer on the scene as almost black. She had been
Speaker 2: shot in the head and died immediately. That's lucky considering
Speaker 2: what you kind of could have went through, you know,
Speaker 2: because it could be worse. That's from one of the
Speaker 2: crime scenes.
Speaker 7: Is that go back?
Speaker 2: That's legit. I don't know what the hell that is
Speaker 2: in the corner, but.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's what I was looking at too, Like is
Speaker 7: that what the.
Speaker 2: Fuck is this? I don't know. A plant that got
Speaker 2: all messed up? I don't know.
Speaker 7: And what's above the plants.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't want to analyze it too much,
Speaker 2: but that's something I do.
Speaker 6: I love how they have a blanket for a door.
Speaker 6: Very messy people, laundry.
Speaker 2: The people that leaves your door open, Billy.
Speaker 7: Not much of a lock on a blanket to be fair.
Speaker 2: Well, realistically, someone broke into your house, so they're gonna
Speaker 2: be like impressed by the cleanliness.
Speaker 7: I'm pretty good, pretty good?
Speaker 2: Uh, pretty crazy? So yeah, she at least he died immediately,
Speaker 2: because that would have been way worse. But he had
Speaker 2: left the first left the first of his one of
Speaker 2: his marks on the crime scene, his baseball cap with
Speaker 2: the logo of the band.
Speaker 6: A C D C.
Speaker 2: Spin me a line forget your cap, Spin me a line.
Speaker 2: Come on. Then, I believe there was something in Ricky
Speaker 2: that broke down and left him free to kill unmercifully,
Speaker 2: without a thought or an expectation of being caught for
Speaker 2: the same night he pulled a woman. Like, it's crazy,
Speaker 2: it's all on the same night, Like you're it you like,
Speaker 2: it's so crazy that that, especially like serial killers like him,
Speaker 2: some of them are more thought out and calculated. But
Speaker 2: how he just kind of went from one place to
Speaker 2: the next and kind of just just like a conveyor
Speaker 2: belt of murder.
Speaker 7: Well, he's on high and he went on a binge.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, anything you.
Speaker 7: Get away with it twice, you just start doing it more.
Speaker 2: You know, we've all done cocaine. Everyone's done cocaine, But
Speaker 2: imagine like shooting it in your veins. What the hell
Speaker 2: you're gonna feel like in that? And then you're like,
Speaker 2: and he's fueled by murder and like lust because it's
Speaker 2: essentially to me, I guarantee it's like turning him on
Speaker 2: in some way because he is like rapping them. Even
Speaker 2: though we've said that word early five times. But I'm
Speaker 2: trying to keep our YouTube going. But I was just
Speaker 2: we're definitely we're one hundred percent shadow band on YouTube.
Speaker 2: There's no other way around it. We barely get we
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Speaker 2: so please like subscribe and help the show because it
Speaker 2: spread the word, because it's word of mouth, and they're
Speaker 2: not gonna let us break through the algorithm unless a
Speaker 2: lot of you guys start to.
Speaker 6: Watch even that at this point, like how many tiktoks
Speaker 6: have you gotten?
Speaker 7: Taken?
Speaker 2: Too many?
Speaker 7: Eight the count?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm trying to start a new line. Got over
Speaker 2: a thousand people, and then now I'm back to just
Speaker 2: two hundred views on each video after a meme went
Speaker 2: viral that people would deem as insensitive, but it's fine,
Speaker 2: it's just a meme. So so yeah, he's like, so
Speaker 2: now he's like, oh, the same night, he's like, fuck this.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm gonna He pulls a woman out of
Speaker 2: her car after forcing her off the road and murdered
Speaker 2: her there and then on the spot it had begun.
Speaker 2: The city of Los Angeles was in fear of what
Speaker 2: the newspapers would be calling the night stuck or but
Speaker 2: you know, eventually, just a complete side note.
Speaker 7: You realize even live for fifteen hours, what do you mean?
Speaker 6: I don't know, it says the my camera says that
Speaker 6: you have been streaming live for fifteen hours and twenty
Speaker 6: five minutes.
Speaker 2: That's awesome. Where we're gonna beat the record. It's at
Speaker 2: least his twenty three minutes are really good. That's bizarre.
Speaker 3: We got a serial killer on the loose.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so uh yeah, pretty pretty crazy. And uh it
Speaker 2: is nuts because it's like and originally he was like
Speaker 2: the I think he was like the screen door, screen
Speaker 2: door Prowl or something ridiculous, and he's probably like, I
Speaker 2: hate that name, man, I wanted to be the Knight
Speaker 2: Proud it was a name, the screen door something like
Speaker 2: that is something so ridiculous, like uh yeah, so you know,
Speaker 2: then everyone's freaking out now. But he was now known
Speaker 2: as the knight Stalker. The killer came, the killing came easy.
Speaker 2: There was more and more. He had it down to
Speaker 2: a formula. If there was a man in the house,
Speaker 2: kill him first by shooting him in the head, then
Speaker 2: with the wife. Some times children restrained. He would go
Speaker 2: through the house for cash and things easily converted to
Speaker 2: and things he can convert to cash, obviously mostly jewelry
Speaker 2: and rare coins. You know, for sure, for some reason
Speaker 2: people are collecting rare coins and every place is going.
Speaker 7: To everyone's got a rare coin collection, do you.
Speaker 6: I wouldn't call them rare, but like I keep every
Speaker 6: loony that has the Toronto maple leaf thing on it.
Speaker 7: I have like ten. I enjoy it.
Speaker 2: Wow, that's sad.
Speaker 7: I like it.
Speaker 6: You'll use any excuse to press that button, any chance
Speaker 6: you can find.
Speaker 2: So I have no idea. I don't know where any
Speaker 2: of these are from. I just find them. So then
Speaker 2: came the fun part. He would beat and sexually assault
Speaker 2: the women and sometimes children in the house. The angrier
Speaker 2: he was the best. The women crying and pleading for
Speaker 2: their lives were almost erotic for him. Pains were almost
Speaker 2: like an afrodisiac. The blood was his orgasm. Some women
Speaker 2: managed to escape with their lives, but only after being
Speaker 2: sexually assaulted by Ricky in every possible way anally, vaginally, vaginally, orally.
Speaker 2: I can't help it, man, this is such a serious topic,
Speaker 2: and there's like people getting murdered and they're like penetrated
Speaker 2: and all sorts of disgusting shit. But for some reason
Speaker 2: my brain goes to, like, I gotta laugh at how
Speaker 2: dark and disgusting it is.
Speaker 6: That's how you co so some people anyway, other people
Speaker 6: do the healthy thing.
Speaker 2: Crying why right now is so depressing?
Speaker 3: Idiot?
Speaker 2: He occasionally untied the victim and forced her to cook
Speaker 2: him a meal or ate the food from the kitchen.
Speaker 7: Imagine that, Oh I love how that's the thing that
Speaker 7: got us.
Speaker 6: Like everything else was fine, but that's like, oh, that's
Speaker 6: next level disrespect.
Speaker 2: Get in that kitchen, bitch.
Speaker 7: You touched my groceries.
Speaker 2: Such a wild thing to do, though, to like you're like,
Speaker 2: you know, maybe you shoot the husband in the head
Speaker 2: or whatever, and then you're like, you know what, I
Speaker 2: could use some scrambled eggs. Okay, can't cook it. Los
Speaker 2: Angeles at night held no terror for him. He was
Speaker 2: completely protected by the one and only Satany That one
Speaker 2: sounds like you're saying, hall satin.
Speaker 7: You really like those sheets? Man?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Love these sheets. Man. It's like he's got an accents.
Speaker 2: So everyone's like he's saying no, he's not. He's saying
Speaker 2: he loves satin. He's only breaking into your homes because
Speaker 2: he liked those satin sheets. That's all he wants. You know.
Speaker 2: It's so dumb, so so he's He believed he was
Speaker 2: completely protected by Satan, to whom he had pledged his
Speaker 2: complete alliance. To his allegiances to Satan, he could he
Speaker 2: could assault a girl, and it was in his power
Speaker 2: to let her live or to slit her throat. It
Speaker 2: was all up to him. He had the power over them.
Speaker 2: And this is what you see with serier colors is
Speaker 2: their domineering presence of like, that's what their thrill is
Speaker 2: is being to dominate over people and to overpower them.
Speaker 2: So then obviously when you think about what the governments
Speaker 2: and stuff like that do, it's the same kind of
Speaker 2: premise of these especially people have powered there to have
Speaker 2: powered money. It is more about the power once you
Speaker 2: have all that money. It's just like if you can
Speaker 2: just like you know, say do this and then a
Speaker 2: hundred million people have to do that or that, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean? That like that power that you
Speaker 2: can have over people. I feel like it's more intoxicating
Speaker 2: than being rich at some points to certain people psychopaths.
Speaker 6: Once once you get used to it right too, then
Speaker 6: it's yeah, it loses all. It's said, I realize you
Speaker 6: can buy anything you want for X amount of time,
Speaker 6: and then you're just like, okay, now what there's.
Speaker 7: Always got to be something to work for like that.
Speaker 6: Yes, it's just how people think though in general, it's
Speaker 6: like no matter what you do, like you're always working
Speaker 6: towards something, which is kind of you're gonna hate this take,
Speaker 6: but which is kind of why. I like the the
Speaker 6: idea of like, okay, work hard for what you got,
Speaker 6: and like it keeps you going keys you motivated. Like
Speaker 6: I'd lose my fucking mind if I just sat at
Speaker 6: home and just got a paycheck to live my life. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 6: I know, that's why I'd go crazy.
Speaker 2: I know. Well, people have that purpose in life.
Speaker 6: Right yeah, I mean yeah, once you're already at that
Speaker 6: level of having everything work wise, and you got all
Speaker 6: your money, and then what.
Speaker 2: If I had all the money in the world and
Speaker 2: I could I could find it. I would live out
Speaker 2: my dreams. Man, I would create art. I'd like, you know,
Speaker 2: I do what the elites love. Right. It's because you
Speaker 2: can sell them like I like poop on a canvas
Speaker 2: and then be like voila, one hundred million dollars because
Speaker 2: they they they literally buy like poop paintings and maggot
Speaker 2: stuff and like all we talked about on the Illuminati
Speaker 2: episode Brett and so you could do that paintings literally
Speaker 2: poop paintings. They're like they're so depraved that they're like,
Speaker 2: oh wow, you know, it's just like there was one
Speaker 2: painting we show where that was on the video we're
Speaker 2: watching and it's like a, it's a it's a dick
Speaker 2: made of poop, and like it's like very expensive. Yeah,
Speaker 2: how much ten ten grand? You know something like that.
Speaker 2: It's like ten. I don't know. I just like they
Speaker 2: this is a real thing they do. Like they like
Speaker 2: weird depraved ship and that's what they're like.
Speaker 7: I get into art, man, that's funny.
Speaker 2: It's so weird. You can look this stuff up. People
Speaker 2: literally buy poop paintings. So you think about this. He
Speaker 2: was evil incarnated in that moment. He was evil, needing
Speaker 2: of no heavenly God. He didn't need God. He could
Speaker 2: end any life as he wished. Several assaults I'm changing
Speaker 2: the word because we'll get flagged if we've already said it.
Speaker 2: A bunch of times we are reported during this time
Speaker 2: in different areas of the Greater Los Angeles country, and
Speaker 2: several of his victims were assaulted but not killed. Yes,
Speaker 2: well no, I'm just trying not to say the R word.
Speaker 2: And I gotta I gotta stop saying. I gotta stop
Speaker 2: saying retarded too, because it's supposed to be you two
Speaker 2: flags that shit. I'm like, man, like he just not
Speaker 2: like people have like like it's just words, man, It
Speaker 2: is just sounds people make from their mouth and people
Speaker 2: are like, oh my god, it fucking hurts my feelings,
Speaker 2: and it's just like, shut the fuck up it. It's
Speaker 2: so crazy. That's that type of world. So, uh, what
Speaker 2: reason or logic had had he had while he was
Speaker 2: committing these crimes is only known to him. Being under
Speaker 2: the influence of both cocaine and PCP, one can only speculate, right,
Speaker 2: Like p he sounds like a crazy drug. Man, I've
Speaker 2: I've never done that. I've done different drugs, but PCP
Speaker 2: sounds one one where it's like that's where you're like
Speaker 2: you're getting naked and you running through the street. It
Speaker 2: doesn't sound it sounds like scary, like a No, PCP
Speaker 2: is like I don't man, you gotta me looked this up.
Speaker 2: What does it do? I don't like it's one. It's
Speaker 2: one that I it's a known Uh yeah, causes hallucinations,
Speaker 2: distortions and perceptions of sound, and uh it causes violent behavior.
Speaker 2: So yeah, uh and there I've heard just I've just
Speaker 2: heard over the Angel dust many stories of people going
Speaker 2: buck wild on PCP.
Speaker 7: Hmm.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but uh so. But Ricky he uh he ruled
Speaker 2: Los Angeles at night. It was his playground, right, stopping
Speaker 2: his feet on the concrete jungle looking for victims, fear
Speaker 2: gripped the citizens, while police had only few clues to
Speaker 2: go on the power in knowing that when the sun
Speaker 2: went down people would fear him, his power to end lives.
Speaker 2: He felt so powerful, you know, And this is definitely
Speaker 2: what he thoughts, like, I'm just like I don't even care, man,
Speaker 2: fuck it, Like I'm just gonna go out and do
Speaker 2: what I want and slaughter and kill and cause mayhem.
Speaker 6: You know, Like I said, you get away with it
Speaker 6: a couple of times, and it's it feels easy. It
Speaker 6: feels like this is the way it's always going to go.
Speaker 6: And then you get sloppier and sloppier and slop.
Speaker 2: Here it comes like a drug, you know what I mean.
Speaker 6: Yeah, chase the dragon. How badly can I injure this person?
Speaker 6: Or how little can I injure them before I kill them?
Speaker 6: And like then you start playing both ways, and.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you think are sick. People are like eventually when
Speaker 2: we get into Joseph Mangelah, if you know, everyone's like,
Speaker 2: is that that's not didn't happen. I'm pretty sure all
Speaker 2: this stuff that some of those experiments did happen. But
Speaker 2: like the idea of like once you have like a
Speaker 2: power over people and you're like, you know, and you're
Speaker 2: sick like that, it's like what happens when I do this?
Speaker 2: When I cut their finger off? What happens when I
Speaker 2: do this? Like and then there's this sick people like
Speaker 2: you And then it's like human centipede where it's like
Speaker 2: if I sow this guy's mouth to this guy's butthole,
Speaker 2: will he poop in his mouth? And then will he
Speaker 2: poop that poop out?
Speaker 7: I forgot that was a thing.
Speaker 6: I've never twisted idea like that. That person's like, hands
Speaker 6: down one of the most twisted brains.
Speaker 2: If you like, probably came out of something, even if
Speaker 2: it was for a movie.
Speaker 7: It's just like to actually think of that, you maybe it.
Speaker 2: Happened in real life, bro, You never know. I feel
Speaker 2: like movies are very much reflection of our society and
Speaker 2: things that actually happen, you know, Lord of the Rings
Speaker 2: real thing and there is a one ring to rule
Speaker 2: them all, they say so again. Only a short time
Speaker 2: later on my day, on the morning of March twenty seventh,
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty five, Vincent and Maxine Zazaria that's a fun name,
Speaker 2: were found dead in their homes. The brutality shocked the
Speaker 2: officers on the scene at the time. They had never
Speaker 2: never seen a violent murder, so savage and so brutal.
Speaker 2: Trying to just show these very quickly get flagged because
Speaker 2: we we did get for our unit thirty seven club Club.
Speaker 2: It's that was at club, but it could have been
Speaker 2: the units thirty seven the Japanese war crimes.
Speaker 7: It did.
Speaker 2: It did get a sensitive content thing over YouTube, so
Speaker 2: you have to like, can I accept this? Is it
Speaker 2: too sensitive? So I'm not going to show those again,
Speaker 2: but just if people want to understand the brutal mayhem
Speaker 2: of these murders, it's pretty grotesque, yes, So yeah, I'm
Speaker 2: not gonna I'm gonna try to show this again, may
Speaker 2: one more time. So it's fucked up, man. I don't
Speaker 2: know how else to but to to try to make
Speaker 2: light of dark, dark things. So pretty crazy. So the
Speaker 2: Vincent was in the living room and had been shot
Speaker 2: in the temple, as most men in the homes that
Speaker 2: Ricky burglarized, it is, he is probable that he died instantly, hopefully.
Speaker 2: Ricky asked Maxine where her valuables were. We will never
Speaker 2: know what her answer was, but at some point he
Speaker 2: became enraged when found her nude body was laid on
Speaker 2: her bed, face mulated with scratches and scrapes. Maxine's eyes
Speaker 2: had been crudely gouged out of her head, leaving ragged
Speaker 2: eye sockets drying with nerves and skin. Is that fine? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Pretty crazy. She had crudely shaped tea through her breast
Speaker 2: with a knife sticking out, so he obviously carved tea.
Speaker 2: He's like, I can't make it the I can't spell
Speaker 2: the whole word night, the knight stucker. So he's just
Speaker 2: like teas.
Speaker 7: I thought was like, kits, that's.
Speaker 2: Fucked up, but yeah, that's so messed up it and
Speaker 2: the knife was sticking out, dude. Forty three stab wounds
Speaker 2: to her neck, abdomen and pub area and thighs forty three.
Speaker 7: That's like, like, you know, she's gone, Yeah, no way,
Speaker 7: she's survived more than fifteen.
Speaker 2: Pretty cley and that's yeah, that's what it is. It's like,
Speaker 2: is this whole It's just it's just depravity, right, They
Speaker 2: just like and if she is, if she did last
Speaker 2: longer than a couple of stabboys, it's so sad and
Speaker 2: the pain inflicted. Me and Aaron I've talked about this
Speaker 2: numerous times, numerous times where we've said, like, the the
Speaker 2: feeling of being the idea of being stabed sounds so
Speaker 2: horrific and horrible. I'd rather be shot many times than
Speaker 2: stabbed many times. Yeah, because bullets everything, it's like supposed
Speaker 2: to like every like bullets too. Uh, it's quicker, but
Speaker 2: like the even like stab wounds is like this burning sensation.
Speaker 2: They say, bullets like that too. But stabbing the scenes
Speaker 2: were visceral and like personal and you're just like right
Speaker 2: in there and you have to stare in the.
Speaker 7: Eye and you feel it come out too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's you know. And then if movies like you know, Scream,
Speaker 2: do to show that very well where they're like you
Speaker 2: stab at each other. Remember that in the kitchen he
Speaker 2: stabbed me too, deep man. He was like, that's so brutal, dude,
Speaker 2: so pretty crazy. What a like brutal murder? And an
Speaker 2: autopsy showed she had been shot in the head with
Speaker 2: the same caliber weapon and ammunition that killed her husband.
Speaker 2: Everything Maxine had suffered had been post mortem, so at
Speaker 2: least at least she was dead, like at least she
Speaker 2: He shot her in the head first, and then he
Speaker 2: was just playing around with her dead body. Man, and
Speaker 2: it's all the like, you know, it's like when we
Speaker 2: talk about Richard Chase, pretty messed up in disgusting stuff
Speaker 2: that these these Richards will do.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: There there were no screams of pain to excite Ricky
Speaker 2: as he butchered her lifeless body, feeling her blood. She
Speaker 2: was already deceased, and the excitement was gone. Now there
Speaker 2: was only vicious rage as he carved into what he
Speaker 2: you know, carved into what he liked. You know, the
Speaker 2: thing the officers feared most was coming true. It was
Speaker 2: getting worse. Her eyeballs were missing. They you know, they
Speaker 2: like what you know, you don't want to cux to
Speaker 2: my bones.
Speaker 7: I don't.
Speaker 6: I don't even like touching my eyeball, Like I don't
Speaker 6: know what people do contacts I can never I tried.
Speaker 2: That so many times. I was like trying to put
Speaker 2: the contact in my eye. When when they first came out,
Speaker 2: and they're like the white contacts and stuff, and I couldn't.
Speaker 2: I couldn't do it, like where your I would go
Speaker 2: white or you have like a zombie or whatever I
Speaker 2: can do.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so uh yeah, they spectated.
Speaker 2: They speculated, I said, the respects spectating the killer as
Speaker 2: he takes out her eyes. They speculated that the killer
Speaker 2: might have taken them with him, which he did. Another
Speaker 2: elderly couple a couple were the next victims, mister and
Speaker 2: missus William Doy like many others, at the at home
Speaker 2: in the middle of the night when Ricky surprised them,
Speaker 2: you know, after after shooting William uh and proceeded to
Speaker 2: rob and and assault Missus Douy. What a name, man?
Speaker 2: Can you tell their Asian or what?
Speaker 7: Well, if you're pronouncing it right, d o I doi
Speaker 7: doi doi?
Speaker 2: So you know what are you extract? Man? Yeah?
Speaker 7: I saw did another thing that canceled pretty quickly.
Speaker 2: It's fine, man, I want you to be I was
Speaker 2: I realized streamed for that. I come from the vault
Speaker 2: of our episode with the Black Eyed Children. I'm live
Speaker 2: streaming into places and people. Okay, if they've never seen it,
Speaker 2: can kind of tune in and man, we used to
Speaker 2: be pretty like we used to go ham and have
Speaker 2: fun with this ship. And I want to keep that
Speaker 2: the same vibe. Man, I want to keep the same vibe.
Speaker 6: There's there's lines are like I've grown as a human being.
Speaker 6: I'm not gonna say that in public.
Speaker 2: So yeah, he's onto his next victims. So uh yeah,
Speaker 2: the doys. He's going after the doy Doys. They Ricky
Speaker 2: surprised them and uh and then mill of the night
Speaker 2: after shooting, William proceeded to rob them and then uh yeah,
Speaker 2: a sexually assault essay missus douay. They were lucky to
Speaker 2: have survived. A pair of elderly sisters soon after them
Speaker 2: provided to yield very important evidence for the case. So
Speaker 2: he's like, it is like, it's not it's not I
Speaker 2: don't know if it's rampage mode yet, but it's like
Speaker 2: getting there. He's like he's very much like it's inching closer,
Speaker 2: Like he's just going like Ham all the time. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And it's just I don't do it as much now,
Speaker 2: but when I was younger, I used to very much
Speaker 2: puzzle what it would be like to be a serial killer.
Speaker 2: It's just I listened to necro and and and very
Speaker 2: sadistic hip hop of like how not like what it
Speaker 2: would be like, but the mindset of like how do
Speaker 2: you how are you driven to that point? Like I
Speaker 2: always mentioned that law teacher that I had that made
Speaker 2: us like that he would like give you clues about
Speaker 2: a case and give you like evidence and crime scene stuff,
Speaker 2: and then you have to kind of figure out what
Speaker 2: their motive was, and he would like leave it kind
Speaker 2: of up to us. And we talked about like the
Speaker 2: Holly Jones case in Toronto where that chick was caught
Speaker 2: up and I would eventually talk about it's very disturbing,
Speaker 2: but she was put around Toronto and suitcases and this
Speaker 2: guy just essentially saw her, some pedophile saw her and
Speaker 2: just took her right off the street. She's watching child porn,
Speaker 2: just fucking and this when I was doors saw her
Speaker 2: and just took her and then cut her up. It's
Speaker 2: just like it's a messed up story. But he like
Speaker 2: had us like essentially puzzle over these cases of why
Speaker 2: do these people get to that point? How do they
Speaker 2: get to It's the what's the psychological aspects of how
Speaker 2: to analyze these killers and stuff like it's messed up,
Speaker 2: but it makes you think, right, like, what drives these people.
Speaker 7: A lot of illness?
Speaker 2: Or is it for sure? Or are they possessed by demons?
Speaker 2: Is that a possibility?
Speaker 7: You can't I guess, I guess yeah. And you've been
Speaker 7: off that train for a little while.
Speaker 2: I well, I've been talking more about the physical aspects
Speaker 2: of the people who come from the Canaanites of the
Speaker 2: first maybe murderer who knows, Oh my god, I'm just
Speaker 2: not trying to mention that anymore. But yes, let's get back.
Speaker 2: The police have been frustrated by so little evidence. But
Speaker 2: on May twenty ninth, nineteen eighty five and more, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna put I don't know, I've never been more more
Speaker 2: more Villa, California.
Speaker 7: Yes, they get it.
Speaker 2: Ricky chose his next victim Blanche Wolf. What a name
Speaker 2: Blanchet B L A N C H E. Blanche. I
Speaker 2: don't know, man, It's like it's a weird name. And
Speaker 2: her sister Malvia Keller, who were elderly sisters in their eighties.
Speaker 7: Bro.
Speaker 2: And this is what the thing about Richard Rmires is
Speaker 2: he did not care what age, he did not care.
Speaker 2: And this thing that you get It's so funny because,
Speaker 2: like he I think there was a story that maybe
Speaker 2: he he he assaulted a young boy. I'm pretty sure
Speaker 2: when we mentioned it last time, I think there's something
Speaker 2: along those lines. But mostly he did stick women. He
Speaker 2: didn't fondle around with the men. But he he didn't
Speaker 2: care what age the women were. He didn't care.
Speaker 3: Zero.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's like eighty years old man. Two sisters
Speaker 2: that are eighty Ricky selected their house to rob them
Speaker 2: one night. And while the robbery may have been on
Speaker 2: his mind, Satan was was his calling card. You know,
Speaker 2: I love Satan his calling card. At the end of
Speaker 2: the night, he loved his boy Satin. Both women were
Speaker 2: so savagely beaten with a hammer that the hammer was broken.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Wow, this man just like legend.
Speaker 7: He is that fucking smile man.
Speaker 2: And this is where we talked about when we originally
Speaker 2: did this. I will put on the Patreon I think
Speaker 2: it is. It is on the Patreon now. Is the
Speaker 2: original Night Soccer episode that we did way back in
Speaker 2: the day as at the beginning of the show is
Speaker 2: on Patreon now, So obviously that's the best way to
Speaker 2: support us. Uh. But Billy's like talking about he was like,
Speaker 2: man just so sadistic and he's like Billy's like reveling
Speaker 2: over the fact that how like there's just no remorse
Speaker 2: to this man.
Speaker 7: It is mind blowing.
Speaker 2: There is we'll get to it like at near the
Speaker 2: end of this, but there is women that really really do.
Speaker 2: Uh it's crazy, man. But I've I talked about this
Speaker 2: with uh with Aaron. Is the idea is that they
Speaker 2: look at someone like this that has the capability to murder,
Speaker 2: and they think.
Speaker 7: And and and to like be in and change.
Speaker 2: Involved, you know, involved in such savagery that it is
Speaker 2: the idea that if they could get on his good side, right,
Speaker 2: that he would kill for them, right, or that like
Speaker 2: if something was wrong, he's he will he would protect
Speaker 2: you because he is that savage where if you he
Speaker 2: was in your life and he was connected to you
Speaker 2: then and there's something about that because it's many serra
Speaker 2: killers have had this were women. We're gonna talk about
Speaker 2: at some point, maybe near Halloween. Where women there's the
Speaker 2: women that love serial killers. And it's bizarre to say
Speaker 2: the least, but they they I think they think that
Speaker 2: that it's wow, he's a protect that's true.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 2: But yeah, so both they were. They were savagely beating
Speaker 2: their hammer broke off. Ricky took a tube of lipstick
Speaker 2: and drew an inverted pentagram on Blanche's thigh. Blanche's thigh.
Speaker 2: I think it's Blanche because that's a very remember blan
Speaker 2: Like you know, was that Golden Girls or whatever it was,
Speaker 2: that one chick named Blanche, very like kind of old
Speaker 2: lady name.
Speaker 7: I don't think I've ever heard a person called up
Speaker 7: before weird.
Speaker 2: I don't want us to bring back the old names, man,
Speaker 2: don't bring back like like, my grandma just died. She
Speaker 2: was ninety two. She lived, she had a big bucket
Speaker 2: of wind. As some people would say, you know she
Speaker 2: h but like she was. Her name was Doris. I
Speaker 2: don't think we needed to bring that name back. Like
Speaker 2: I don't think.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
Speaker 2: There's certain age where I like, I don't know, Like
Speaker 2: a little girl named Doris is like that's like shouldn't
Speaker 2: you have wrinkles? It's just like a two year old
Speaker 2: little girl two two three weeks ago, Yeah, a couple
Speaker 2: of weeks she she was like, you know, she's ny two,
Speaker 2: she's vaccinated, but she was, but like, you know, it's
Speaker 2: I'm not even close to her. I can't. When I
Speaker 2: went to her room, was like, you're ninety two. Now,
Speaker 2: it's fine.
Speaker 7: No, I'm just wondering if you, like, you reached out
Speaker 7: a day before or something, and now they did.
Speaker 2: They did. They did sanction me off. They said during
Speaker 2: the during during the no listen during during the whole
Speaker 2: COVID schmove and stuff, I wasn't allowed to go to
Speaker 2: the family events because I wasn't schmacktioninated.
Speaker 6: So like, you know, and I thought I thought you
Speaker 6: were saying, like grandma's gotten up there, like she can't
Speaker 6: handle handle you're talking anymore.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's like, for some reason the podcast, I can't
Speaker 2: turn the podcast off. She has the podcast loop by accident.
Speaker 2: It was this can't like I can't stop listening to
Speaker 2: I can't fucking I wanted this done, turn this off
Speaker 2: because I use technology. Uh. He also used blood to
Speaker 2: drop heaedagram on the wall of your bedroom. Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: you know, she was last grandparent, but hey, you know
Speaker 2: she was ninety two. I think that that's a pretty
Speaker 2: good win. You know, kids are having heart failure. So
Speaker 2: where so he he he assaulted a Mallevia Maleva whatever
Speaker 2: her name is sorry, uh Malvia, I think that's her name, Alvia.
Speaker 2: This was very significant. The police knew that they were
Speaker 2: dealing with a very specialized area of this predator. Someone
Speaker 2: using that symbol was making a statement about and the
Speaker 2: police knew that they could maybe maybe would make the
Speaker 2: next murder worse than that. So like and they're like,
Speaker 2: obviously it is the time of the Satia panic, so
Speaker 2: they're all pan king, and they think it could even
Speaker 2: be worse than that. And again Ricky blended away into
Speaker 2: the muggy Los Angeles night. And it is a weird thing.
Speaker 2: People think it could be like like lead poisoning or
Speaker 2: all sorts of weird stuff. But around the six sixties
Speaker 2: and seventies, especially the seventies eighties, there was such a
Speaker 2: ramp up in serial killers. Like at some point, I
Speaker 2: want to talk about the idea that maybe like they
Speaker 2: were influenced about the CIA, like the Manson, I feel
Speaker 2: like definitely was. And then they're even Eileen Warners, she
Speaker 2: could have been. She claimed they're using like she was
Speaker 2: in jail. She was very crazy, but there she was
Speaker 2: claiming that they're using like pressure, some sonic pressure on
Speaker 2: my head. She claimed this when she was being interviewed
Speaker 2: in jail.
Speaker 6: See, is is it outside influence or is it just
Speaker 6: because your parents were hippies?
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, hippies alternative douchebag lawyers, like I'm gonna fight
Speaker 2: the system. Nevermind, I'm gonna be a corporate guy. You know.
Speaker 6: No, I mean, like yeah, because they would have been yeah,
Speaker 6: seventies and eighties. You'd have been born in like the sixties.
Speaker 6: So your parents called him twenty in the sixties. Yeah,
Speaker 6: they're on acid twenty four to seven, very little, taking
Speaker 6: care of you doing.
Speaker 7: Oh my god, she's a free spirit. She's three. She
Speaker 7: doesn't need anything, you do.
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 2: You know who promoted that.
Speaker 7: Free spirits?
Speaker 6: I get a communists for fun, for fuck grek God,
Speaker 6: I gotta carve him up real nice.
Speaker 7: What did you mean promoted that?
Speaker 2: It was the whole idea of subverting a colletre. It
Speaker 2: comes from like that, It comes from a communist ideology.
Speaker 2: It's facts, man, facts. So so he was protected though
Speaker 2: he has his protection, he has his protection of the Allmighty.
Speaker 2: You know, everyone knows the Almighty. I love Satan, so
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be wearing that out. Uh, you know, so
Speaker 2: he's protected by the Almighty you know. Oh it's like
Speaker 2: looking down. Uh he would he he knew he would
Speaker 2: never be caught. Victim after victim. He blended together more
Speaker 2: elderly couples sleeping in their beds. He went after anyone
Speaker 2: that was easy, realistically, that's what he did. He was like,
Speaker 2: as long as you know anyone, and it was it
Speaker 2: was a lot of people I just like left their
Speaker 2: door open, you know what I mean. Like it was
Speaker 2: a lot of that where it's like, can I get
Speaker 2: into this easily? He was for sure a coward, and
Speaker 2: he prayed on some of the weakest people. Uh you know,
Speaker 2: so he is creaming in people, some single women. One
Speaker 2: who actually talked to Ricky for an hour after he
Speaker 2: he ripped rap eyed her after like he sexually assaulted
Speaker 2: her and he spared her life. Bro After he did that,
Speaker 2: he would, I don't know what hell he was doing,
Speaker 2: like just like smoking a cigarette. And then she's like,
Speaker 2: so like, how's your weekend life? Like what do you
Speaker 2: do for fun?
Speaker 7: So what do you do for work outside of that?
Speaker 2: Well, it's dude, I need, I need, I need the
Speaker 2: billy back that used to be here, right, I need
Speaker 2: there's no more on the show, especially for fun. Right,
Speaker 2: it's like even dark subject.
Speaker 7: The bill we do that is off camera.
Speaker 2: Billy back better, you know, but we that's part of
Speaker 2: the show man. The idea, like I is for not
Speaker 2: of the faint of heart or easily offended. And I
Speaker 2: mean that. I think that's you know, it may have
Speaker 2: not got us as successful as we could be by now,
Speaker 2: I do think that there is a space for us.
Speaker 2: I believe it. I believe that there is a space
Speaker 2: for strange brew out there for all the fans. I
Speaker 2: love you, guys, and I thank you for listening. So
Speaker 2: he could not remember who he even had he because
Speaker 2: after doing it so often, like it would be like
Speaker 2: it would all blend together, like especially as often as
Speaker 2: he was doing it, it would be like that old lady,
Speaker 2: this old he isn't he doesn't know their names. He's
Speaker 2: not like, hey, what's your name? Brenda? Nice? Okay today
Speaker 2: Brenda today? I took Brenda out for a date, just kidding.
Speaker 2: She's dead, like so fuck you know. But like realistically,
Speaker 2: he doesn't carries just going in and causing savagery and
Speaker 2: that's what's getting him off. And it is a high.
Speaker 2: Like he's definitely doing us as a high. All that
Speaker 2: he can remember when he was killing someone is the
Speaker 2: ultimate rush, a high so powerful he wanted the rest
Speaker 2: of his life to go on like this. It is weird.
Speaker 2: It's like a heroin act. Dude. It's like someone that
Speaker 2: is chasing the dragons, that that that phyxiation of like, oh.
Speaker 6: Man, this feels great, absolutely next and where's where am
Speaker 6: I going to get my next fix?
Speaker 2: And he's doing it.
Speaker 6: Just two weeks and no wonder records start popping into
Speaker 6: his head like how many people?
Speaker 2: Yeah he isn't.
Speaker 6: No, no, he would have known about Hitler by then.
Speaker 7: But what do you mean?
Speaker 2: Oh what did he do? Everyone thinks he just thinking
Speaker 2: he's a good guy.
Speaker 7: Now one of the biggest serial killers there are.
Speaker 2: But I would I would beg to differ. I would
Speaker 2: say the Communists were definitely far worse than any fascists
Speaker 2: in my opinion, if you actually watt the Communists were groups,
Speaker 2: tell me how many, how many, how many? How many
Speaker 2: youths were in Europe at the time. I can't want
Speaker 2: to get into this now. There was less than what
Speaker 2: they said there was. There were on record there was
Speaker 2: only three million, only three million in Europe. At the time.
Speaker 2: So how the fuck did that happen? Because that's you
Speaker 2: can you can literally look this up on census stuff
Speaker 2: where they like were tracking where the population was. So
Speaker 2: not saying that bad things didn't happen, as I said,
Speaker 2: what are we talking about? Man? But these people were
Speaker 2: definitely influenced by people like that. They're like, imagine being
Speaker 2: that guy. I can just be like, go over here,
Speaker 2: put the strip them down, put a bullet, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean? Their brain like, I don't care because
Speaker 2: either way, nobody is the good guy in warfare. I
Speaker 2: don't care what people think. There's no good or bad size.
Speaker 2: There's people just striving for power. Uh so yeah he was.
Speaker 2: He was on a high man just two weeks later.
Speaker 2: It's fine when we're when we were talking about this,
Speaker 2: like when we did this episode originally, you're like, man,
Speaker 2: he he's on a rampage. He does this as often
Speaker 2: as we do podcasts, because it's like once a week.
Speaker 2: He's just like doing that. Because in the way we
Speaker 2: did before, we read off like this date, this person,
Speaker 2: this date, this person, this date, this person, and we
Speaker 2: went down the whole list of when it happened in
Speaker 2: the dates, and it is like it was like every week,
Speaker 2: every week at least maybe sometimes twice a week, three
Speaker 2: times a week, but it was like consistent. It was
Speaker 2: so messed up.
Speaker 7: Man guy's going just two weeks? What was the final count?
Speaker 2: I think we'll get to it because when we did
Speaker 2: mention on the first episode, so have it pulled up here.
Speaker 2: Just two weeks later, on May twenty nine, the Ramirez
Speaker 2: had some fun with an eighty four year old Maybell.
Speaker 2: There's a name you don't really need to come back, Maybell.
Speaker 2: Her name is may Bell Bell, may Bel Bell.
Speaker 7: That's Mabel, but Mabel Bell.
Speaker 2: Mabel Bell. Oh I call it Mabel Bell Bell, may
Speaker 2: Bowl Bell.
Speaker 7: Did you do a good I gotta work at a
Speaker 7: tongue twister with.
Speaker 2: Though maybe bell? Uh an eighty one year old Florence
Speaker 2: lang An invalid? What's an invalid?
Speaker 7: I don't think you're saying it right now.
Speaker 2: No, No, that's that's now. That's what it is.
Speaker 7: That's what it is.
Speaker 2: Invalid, Yes, invalid. Couldn't say I'll find it. Don't worry.
Speaker 2: Oh of no force weight or not valid week having
Speaker 2: no force effect or efficiency, void, no, not well, feeble, infirm, sickly.
Speaker 7: That's one of my new favorite.
Speaker 2: This is now invalid. So that's summary. So yeah, she
Speaker 2: was invalid.
Speaker 7: Doesn't work, get it.
Speaker 2: Ramirez violent and a lot of people get a lot
Speaker 2: of things nowadays. Ramirez, especially humor. Ramirez violently beat them
Speaker 2: and then scratched satanic symbols over them and their house.
Speaker 2: There was two, there was there. The two were not
Speaker 2: found until June second. Bell died on July fifteenth, but
Speaker 2: Lang survived the attack, and on June twenty seventh, Patty
Speaker 2: Higgins had her throat slash, dying in another Stucker attack
Speaker 2: in her own home. And on this July second, Mary
Speaker 2: Cannon seventy seven. So he's definitely just praying on the
Speaker 2: weakest people that he can. Man killed in a similar fashion,
Speaker 2: you know, pretty pretty brutal stuff, you know, pretty pretty
Speaker 2: brutal and flag shut. Cannon lived less than two miles
Speaker 2: from Higgins, so like he's like going in the same area,
Speaker 2: Like he has like no remorse, he doesn't care. He's
Speaker 2: just going from house to house being like, who has
Speaker 2: their door open today? And then he just pops in
Speaker 2: your window. You know, he's one of the worst people
Speaker 2: to see, dude, if you're like and then it's like
Speaker 2: you're like, what's that? What's that smell? Is that smell? Bobby?
Speaker 7: Did you fart? Jaw line? Is Michael Jackson?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Michael Jackson at jaw line? Yeah, just like that.
Speaker 7: That's exactly Maybe it is him, man, it looks like
Speaker 7: fucking m.
Speaker 2: Maybe he has that same kind of vibe to his Yeah.
Speaker 2: I guess you could say, but that's not the MJ
Speaker 2: turned white, you know, because they poisoned him, supposed to
Speaker 2: we conspiracy. On July twentieth, Ramirez decided to do it.
Speaker 2: They don't want to. Black guy is the king of
Speaker 2: pop As a conspiracy. July twentieth, Ramirez decided to do
Speaker 2: a double He's got it. He's a double double suh.
Speaker 2: First off, he killed Chain or wrong Chan names Chain
Speaker 2: a wrong coveanth so sure nine thirty two, and then
Speaker 2: beat in and assaulted his wife not content, but he
Speaker 2: did take their eight year old son into the next
Speaker 2: room with a bottle of baby oil. Wow. And then
Speaker 2: the wife was forced to listen to Ramirez assault him.
Speaker 2: That is probably one of the sickest shit that he did.
Speaker 2: And I remember hearing about that that and that that's
Speaker 2: beyond depraved. Is making a mother listen to you do
Speaker 2: that to the kid with and then be like, you know,
Speaker 2: just you know, be like as you're like go in
Speaker 2: the next room, just hold the baby oil like that's
Speaker 2: messed up dude. And then he's just like doesn't even care,
Speaker 2: Like he just doesn't care. Rock on Hail Satan, love
Speaker 2: that guy. You know, that's so crazy man. To me,
Speaker 2: this guy could be a victim of some mk ulture
Speaker 2: ship for all the god, you know. But so yeah,
Speaker 2: she had a less into that. And then he stole
Speaker 2: thirty thousand dollars in cash and jewelry. Ramirez then drove
Speaker 2: to a neighboring suburb and murdered Max Kindling sixty nine
Speaker 2: and his wife Leela sixty six. The couple didn't even
Speaker 2: have time together. Beds bros just like coming and swinging
Speaker 2: like messed up man. And on August sixth Ramirez screwed
Speaker 2: up and left both victims wounded, Christopher Peterson thirty eight
Speaker 2: and his wife of Virginia twenty seven, where he's able
Speaker 2: to give a description of the attacker which matched all
Speaker 2: of the other survivors descriptions. Pretty crazy man, And so
Speaker 2: again in August eighth.
Speaker 7: I can't believe he didn't kill her?
Speaker 6: Oh at that point, like right, I'm wondering where the
Speaker 6: staring comes from. At that point, it's like you did
Speaker 6: you like them as a human? Did they say is
Speaker 6: the right thing to you?
Speaker 2: Did they amaze just the idea of taunting fate. I
Speaker 2: don't know, man, he's a weird dude, like of course
Speaker 2: he is. But August eighth, Ramire strikes again. He kills
Speaker 2: uh Elias Obwath thirty five, shooting him, then brutally beating
Speaker 2: his wife. Same thing, go in, shoot the husband, attack
Speaker 2: the wife.
Speaker 11: Uh.
Speaker 2: It is after this attack the police announced that they
Speaker 2: were after a serialkill of linking six murders. The pressed.
Speaker 2: This is when they dubbed him, finally the knight stalker.
Speaker 12: You know there as you know, the night stalker, Remember
Speaker 12: that guy.
Speaker 3: You're like Charlie Manson and the Knights deck could combined.
Speaker 2: So yeah. And then on August seventeenth, Ramirez truck in
Speaker 2: San Francisco, his first attack outside La killing this amusingly
Speaker 2: named Peter Pan sixty six. You remember Peter Pan. Do
Speaker 2: you think he was winding to go in never never land?
Speaker 2: Or is he never never going to be alive again?
Speaker 7: There's not enough there to do a good pun.
Speaker 2: So I was like, let's not get into the mind
Speaker 2: of him. You don't what you don't want to discuss
Speaker 2: how how sick Ramirez is. You don't want to like
Speaker 2: live inside of his brain and try to figure out
Speaker 2: why he is who he.
Speaker 6: Is or was Billy again, I'm gonna I'm gonna go
Speaker 6: on like Lemons. It is a good amount of like
Speaker 6: mental illness there for sure.
Speaker 2: Billy's got a woman tied up behind that door.
Speaker 7: It's a sliding door.
Speaker 2: Shut up, bitch. Oh do I still have that?
Speaker 7: One?
Speaker 2: Would be so funny if I did. Let mean, let
Speaker 2: me see shut so bad stuff? So ye though, are
Speaker 2: the rock you know? Shut up bitch? And then you
Speaker 2: here like what's his a freaking out? He yeah. At
Speaker 2: least he made the namesake of G five nine Rappa
Speaker 2: Oh yeah yeah, uh he Well, he wanted he wanted
Speaker 2: to be called the Knight Prowler, but he got the
Speaker 2: night Stalker, which actually sounds kind of better than the Prowler.
Speaker 7: It's way better.
Speaker 2: So weird, so it's crazy.
Speaker 7: So they give them name, Why do you glorify them?
Speaker 2: Because it it sells, man sex sells, it sells it
Speaker 2: does people should like and guess what.
Speaker 7: Guess what Pase number fifty two is that large.
Speaker 2: Fear does sell it, man, fear cells and people consume
Speaker 2: by fear, right, So it's the way the way she goes. Man.
Speaker 2: So this is pretty crazy where they got the first sketch,
Speaker 2: bro they had to look at that. Do you think
Speaker 2: that actually looks like him? I don't know, man, it
Speaker 2: looks like him, and like you know, when he's like
Speaker 2: sixty five.
Speaker 7: You could like.
Speaker 6: See, here's the thing like with sketches like that, and
Speaker 6: especially with how far off it is, like a the
Speaker 6: nose is off, lips are long, face is way longer.
Speaker 2: Well, they're doing the best thing.
Speaker 7: Then that could just like match anybody at that point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's what a lot of the sketches do
Speaker 2: not get. I don't know, it's not it's not the
Speaker 2: you know, doesn't I get, but like kinda kind.
Speaker 7: Of that's what you should look like. But like photo
Speaker 7: generated pictures.
Speaker 2: It just it's a I enhancing it because all these
Speaker 2: photos from like the eighties, that's like the why they
Speaker 2: do this, Like even some of the ones where he's
Speaker 2: like younger kind of the same way where they kind
Speaker 2: of try to enhance like this one, that's a real photo,
Speaker 2: but someone's enhanced it just to give you like that too,
Speaker 2: that real photo, but they enhance it to give people
Speaker 2: because it was like back in the day, but still
Speaker 2: you had like this is enhanced, but that's a real photo.
Speaker 2: So you're like with all the technology have nowadays, night night,
Speaker 2: Stucker that night.
Speaker 6: I wonder if they I wonder if they made any
Speaker 6: food branding out of it.
Speaker 7: What do you mean, Like, usually.
Speaker 6: When there's a big pr crazy like somebody will do
Speaker 6: one off putting something anyway.
Speaker 7: Maybe it was a pudding brand.
Speaker 6: Maybe they're like introducing the new red jello.
Speaker 2: Don't stick your dick in this yello. August twenty fourth,
Speaker 2: Ramirez wounds Bill Carnes and twenty nine with three bullets
Speaker 2: to the head. Pop Pop Pop, and then he raped
Speaker 2: carnes fiance. God, it's harder to say that word where
Speaker 2: it's like right there, eins Ericson twice. As Ramirez drove away, Ericson,
Speaker 2: seeing his car, saw his car would have been more appropriate.
Speaker 2: It was an orange Tyota station wagon. A local teenager
Speaker 2: also noticed the car and its driver. He took down
Speaker 2: the number plate and gave it to the police and
Speaker 2: the end was near. So the ivy drug user made
Speaker 2: it hard to keep track of everything that was happening
Speaker 2: because he's like shooting up cocaine in his veins. He's
Speaker 2: smoking weed, you know, you know how that's good on
Speaker 2: the memory, right, Like he's doing all this crazy stuff.
Speaker 2: Pew pew pew. Thank you for tuning in everybody that's
Speaker 2: watching on the live, but like pretty crazy. So then
Speaker 2: he he he's essentially like, how could you man? You're like,
Speaker 2: he is doing heroin too, He's doing PCP heroin. He's uh,
Speaker 2: he's shooting up the cocaine. So after some point your
Speaker 2: brain has to like try to keep up with what
Speaker 2: you're doing, you know what I mean.
Speaker 7: Who's a champion.
Speaker 2: And you like see him just like running up with
Speaker 2: fucking blood covered of blood.
Speaker 6: Honestly, I'm surprised with all the crazy like shows that
Speaker 6: are out now, I'm surprised that's.
Speaker 7: Not one of them.
Speaker 2: Drugs are bad, kids, Drugs are bad.
Speaker 6: Who can do the most controlled oxyson one sitting without dying?
Speaker 2: Go, oh yeah, that's actually a great idea, bro. The
Speaker 2: drug Olympics.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: You have like dudes, lined up right, and there's like
Speaker 2: the lines of coke they have, like the normal lines,
Speaker 2: it gets bigger, it's bigger, and then they do like
Speaker 2: the snake. Then they do like the Hollywood line, that's
Speaker 2: what they call it, where it's like su a snake.
Speaker 2: And then it's just like whoever can survive. You know
Speaker 2: why society might get.
Speaker 7: There, you know, it's the new squid games.
Speaker 2: You know because when we uh, when we talked about
Speaker 2: the idea of of the Human Hunting Club, there was
Speaker 2: somebody uh that if failed to mention when we were
Speaker 2: talking about that, there is a there was a guy
Speaker 2: that run an article and he was talking about how
Speaker 2: at some point that if the population gets over popular,
Speaker 2: they are doing numerous, numerous things to keep the population
Speaker 2: down in so many different ways. But he said that
Speaker 2: at some point it would make sense to like have
Speaker 2: some sort of thing where it's like you have people
Speaker 2: hunting each other for fun, you know, to keep the
Speaker 2: population down like a sport.
Speaker 7: Oh, I got a good game for that though.
Speaker 2: The final count.
Speaker 6: As for as for the drug one, so you got
Speaker 6: let's say, yeah, you got whatever a bag of coke, yeah,
Speaker 6: and you gotta do all of it and every single
Speaker 6: contestant has to do all of it and then listen
Speaker 6: to someone talk for an hour straight without being jittery.
Speaker 2: When I was doing a little bit, I had this,
Speaker 2: I think just for some reason. It's just like be
Speaker 2: like we all we all had our things, man, we're
Speaker 2: all young and did stupid shi it's his life man.
Speaker 2: Uh So he Actually it's so funny because like at
Speaker 2: this time, right he he went out doing like whatever
Speaker 2: the opportunity presented itself that he would want to kill.
Speaker 2: But the police had made the public paranoid, so people
Speaker 2: were getting more like agile and wanted to like obviously
Speaker 2: lock your doors, which you should be doing. Uh So
Speaker 2: the media had jumped on the story of calling Ricky
Speaker 2: the nice talker because it sells, man. People are picking
Speaker 2: up newspapers. Uh you know, it's sell It sells. And
Speaker 2: people were fearful of someone breaking in their home as
Speaker 2: they slept. They were looking for someone, but they didn't
Speaker 2: know it was him. Had uh he had to get away,
Speaker 2: and Ricky had very few friends because he's just like
Speaker 2: some drug addicts. A road trip was in order. Fresh
Speaker 2: hunting ground is just what he needed. Man.
Speaker 7: This kid's definitely on crack. Right now.
Speaker 2: I hate that ud Man. Yeah, crack is whack, Crack
Speaker 2: is whack. It's true. San Francisco was just far enough
Speaker 2: away to escape all the police crawling all over the
Speaker 2: night stalker case. And I'm sure he was laughing at
Speaker 2: that with no fear. He it is weird out of
Speaker 2: all this year, Like I think all of them are depraved,
Speaker 2: They are detached. Something's wrong with their brain. And a
Speaker 2: lot of serial killers did.
Speaker 7: We talked about this, absolutely, something very wrong with their brain.
Speaker 7: Of course it is the last.
Speaker 2: Serial killers had some sort of head trauma. Numerous and
Speaker 2: one thing we didn't mention, which is surprising that I
Speaker 2: didn't have this written down. But and when we talked
Speaker 2: about his earlier life, there was a there was when
Speaker 2: he was younger. He did get smacked in the head
Speaker 2: really hard by a swing enough where like knocked him out.
Speaker 2: And he's like three or four something like that. He
Speaker 2: was fairly young. Yeah, but he got hit hard. Man
Speaker 2: who knows the chains man, big guy hit hard enough
Speaker 2: to like kind of knock him out to get hit Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: buddy was young. You know, your your brain's soft, right,
Speaker 2: so pretty crazy. So he escaped the San Francisco the
Speaker 2: LAPD had worked tiresly to try to find connections and
Speaker 2: everything and aiming they can maybe solve the case. There
Speaker 2: were sixteen victims at this time of murdered that have
Speaker 2: been or sixteen visions that has been murdered or assaulted,
Speaker 2: and they believed he was responsible for But while this
Speaker 2: is happening, Ricky was on a bus San Francisco, you know,
Speaker 2: to a friend's house. He's like, what do you do
Speaker 2: a man? Can we go hang out?
Speaker 10: You know?
Speaker 2: I got some heroin, like he always have heroin. He's like,
Speaker 2: all he's doing is is killing and stealing to supply
Speaker 2: his habit.
Speaker 7: You know what I mean, That's what he must to live.
Speaker 7: It's his job now, Yeah, it is.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Do you know I don't think he's going back to
Speaker 7: Best Buy after this.
Speaker 2: Little did he know that what he would be waiting
Speaker 2: for as returned to Los Angeles. While in San Francisco,
Speaker 2: he had committed several crimes, includinghooting a man by the name
Speaker 2: of Peter Pan and his wife in the heads. As
Speaker 2: we mentioned, he went to Phoenix after San Francisco and
Speaker 2: he was on a bus. The l A p D
Speaker 2: caught a huge break in the case when they took
Speaker 2: the fingerprints from the windowsill of Pan's house. Yes, Peter Pan,
Speaker 2: he left a little residue. You know, he flew away
Speaker 2: to Neverland. You know when like Peter Pant's like dragon
Speaker 2: Wendy out of the window. He's like, you're gonna come
Speaker 2: with meat and you're never gonna grow up. We're gonna
Speaker 2: be kids forever, Becazach. I don't want to grow up.
Speaker 7: Yeah, super creepy.
Speaker 2: Would you go to Neverland?
Speaker 7: Nah? I'm good here.
Speaker 2: I just grow old and die slow.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Do you know that we'll talk about some of the
Speaker 2: theory is that they're they're all dead already. Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, so weird it makes sense? Does that does
Speaker 6: make sense? That's a nice little spin on it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, everything has a creepy tail. If if you guys
Speaker 2: are a fan of the show and you you're not
Speaker 2: listening on audio or whatever described to the audio platforms
Speaker 2: because tons episodes of the Other Me and Billy talked about
Speaker 2: that of all the VP children's stories and stuff that
Speaker 2: have weird meetings behind you, like the Alice in Wonderland stuff. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So the police department had come a long way from
Speaker 2: computerized fingerprint matching. They put the fingerprints into a database
Speaker 2: and they connected with Richard Levia Levi Leva Ramirez, who
Speaker 2: had been stealing cars. What's l e y v a
Speaker 2: leve leve leve leve. Sure it's Richard. It's Richie rich
Speaker 2: Man who had been stealing cars, and his fingerprints matched
Speaker 2: up with all these car thefts. And then they knew
Speaker 2: who they were looking for. They were looking for the
Speaker 2: Nights Stoker. Now they had to find him. The public
Speaker 2: was unbelievably frightened, and the police used to use that
Speaker 2: to take they'd used it to their advantage. The mug
Speaker 2: shot that was taken from his car rest booking was
Speaker 2: on the front page of every newspaper. So I don't
Speaker 2: know if.
Speaker 6: It is he didn't steal cars, he wouldn't have got
Speaker 6: killed for all this A fans don't see a stalker tie.
Speaker 2: It's so stupid, man, I hate a c D said,
Speaker 2: not gonna lie. I know if people like it's fired,
Speaker 2: but not me.
Speaker 7: It's rock music. Whatever.
Speaker 2: Enjoy fucking Grandpa rock. At this point, man sad, I
Speaker 2: don't like the guy dressed up a little a little boy.
Speaker 2: I got beef for that guy. So they had to
Speaker 2: fight him. Man, So plasters face all of the newspaper.
Speaker 2: It's kind of a good idea because realistically, someone's like, hey, hey,
Speaker 2: that's that guy. You remember a little Nikki where they
Speaker 2: like put his face all over like the media and
Speaker 2: the guy superimposed his face on a Tony Montana. He's like, hey,
Speaker 2: that's not me, that's not cockrof Tony Montana. And he's
Speaker 2: like remember in Milniki And then everyone chases him and
Speaker 2: he turns into spirates, oh, spiders. He's like, I am
Speaker 2: one with evil or whatever.
Speaker 7: He like, mm hmm.
Speaker 2: So like eventually if you put stuff out there, they'll
Speaker 2: like a little look for you, right, so, and and
Speaker 2: eventually they started. They they got the picture, they knew
Speaker 2: who they were looking for, this narlely cat, and they
Speaker 2: were gonna they were gonna find him. They're gonna find
Speaker 2: the boy. It's just so crazy. Often he's smiling in
Speaker 2: photos man, happy as a pig and ship or a
Speaker 2: serial which is weird too.
Speaker 7: At that point, you think he'd be going through a
Speaker 7: lot of withdrawal.
Speaker 6: You wouldn't have the the go get her attitude that
Speaker 6: he had before.
Speaker 2: Hell yeah, then you come out with a little Nikki too. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know they're already doing. Uh, they're are, Yeah,
Speaker 2: they're already doing what's that golf movie? Already that happy Gilmore. Well,
Speaker 2: I'm sure it would be actually kind of wide least
Speaker 2: how it was, but who knows. The Hispanic community in
Speaker 2: Los Angeles had their own publications in Spanish and the
Speaker 2: Orange County Register and the Herald Examiner in the Los
Speaker 2: Angeles time. Everyone knew we look like they had the
Speaker 2: pictures out. Everyone was looking for the boy.
Speaker 6: And not stop showing that one is not AI. Just
Speaker 6: that's not enhanced photo. That's not a real photo at all.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 2: It's fun, though.
Speaker 7: Do you have some like legit photos from there that
Speaker 7: aren't enhanced?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 7: Yeah, Like this is just regular ass photo.
Speaker 2: This is him sitting in court. We'll get to that.
Speaker 2: It's just the enhanced ones. Kind of cool. I that's
Speaker 2: very detailed, very detailed. This one straight up man, straight
Speaker 2: up richie. You know, look at how long those fingers are. Man,
Speaker 2: he's got this. Wouldn't want him to give you the
Speaker 2: stinky finger.
Speaker 7: Why are the handcuffs like, I don't know colored? Are
Speaker 7: those plastic?
Speaker 2: Now they're metal? There's probably a certain color for some
Speaker 2: strange reason Man show. Yeah, Someone's like, I don't know
Speaker 2: if this is real, but I swear to God Adam
Speaker 2: Sandler's coming out with the Flintstones movie live. Actually, can
Speaker 2: we not do that? Man? Very done that? I like
Speaker 2: the first two there. Okay, I did watch him as
Speaker 2: a kid, so we're could get off the bus. On
Speaker 2: August thirty first, nineteen eighty five, walked to a nearby
Speaker 2: convenience store and Tobia's usual breakfast donuts and a giant
Speaker 2: bottle of PEPSI, not paying attention to the people around him.
Speaker 2: Still high off cocaine, he taken to the Taken to Phoenix.
Speaker 2: He reached down by to pay for his food when
Speaker 2: he heard a woman angrily whisper in Spanish to her husband.
Speaker 2: I tell you that's him, that's him. Can you do
Speaker 2: a Spanish accent?
Speaker 7: No?
Speaker 13: No, no, say again, pledge.
Speaker 2: I tell you that's him. That's he. His eyes fell
Speaker 2: on the newspaper rack beside the cash register saw his
Speaker 2: car theft booking shot on the front page of in
Speaker 2: front of everybody. The cashier was holding it changed, but
Speaker 2: Ricky was beyond petrified. He dropped his food and ran
Speaker 2: out of the store as fast as he could. The
Speaker 2: couple rushed to the counter, and the woman was almost crying,
Speaker 2: and the man yelled, cold, cops, what the hell's wrong
Speaker 2: with you? That's the nice talker. Run Ricky, Run, Run Ricky,
Speaker 2: run until you find a car to steel. His thoughts
Speaker 2: were completely incoherent, and he could not he cannot believe
Speaker 2: that he'd become public enemy number one. What do you
Speaker 2: fucking think is gonna happen? Man? I was just trying
Speaker 2: to live my life.
Speaker 7: I wasn't.
Speaker 2: I prayed every day.
Speaker 7: Run Ricky.
Speaker 2: So yeah, pretty everyone was looking for him. It was
Speaker 2: only a matter of time and then he was going
Speaker 2: to have serious problems. He found that he had run
Speaker 2: into a residential neighborhood, the kind with neatly cut grass
Speaker 2: and small snatues of the Virgin Mary. So you know
Speaker 2: they're gonna kick some ass man. Oh yeah, he's got satan.
Speaker 6: They had the fake verse Ji Mary.
Speaker 7: I love that family. God does a good stand up
Speaker 7: on that.
Speaker 12: So she's like, I don't know what this is God's baby,
Speaker 12: and she's like, yeah, I didn't do nothing.
Speaker 2: He smelled barbecue, who felt like throwing up. Sweat was
Speaker 2: pouring down his face. He'd run close to two miles
Speaker 2: and only twelve minutes. He leaned up against the side
Speaker 2: of a building to try to catch his breath, falling.
Speaker 2: Moments later, here to voice screaming call the cops. He
Speaker 2: began to run again. He got him, but here like
Speaker 2: everyone's after you. Man, It is like that, see a
Speaker 2: little vicky. Only moments later he heard a voice screaming
Speaker 2: from the cops. He began to running again, and he
Speaker 2: heard the beginning of police sirens in the distance. Uh,
Speaker 2: then another and another. Ricky knew he was trapped. He
Speaker 2: ran to a nearby home and then threw an alleyway.
Speaker 2: He could still hear sirens. Jumping over fences of houses.
Speaker 2: He saw a four stating parked into the driveway next
Speaker 2: to it, un locked and with the keys in the ignition.
Speaker 2: It's like, is Satan's trasing?
Speaker 3: I know?
Speaker 2: Is Satan giving him the slip? Like being like, I'm
Speaker 2: giving you chances.
Speaker 11: Man.
Speaker 2: Here's here's one way here, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: I mustang.
Speaker 7: A nice fast vehicle.
Speaker 2: He jumped in and tried to start it before he
Speaker 2: realized there was a man underneath it. Oh, he was
Speaker 2: working on the car's transmission. Wow, you know that crazy
Speaker 2: that'd be and shocking.
Speaker 6: When you fucking see that, Like the car beyond Jacks.
Speaker 2: On his ant and panicking is on cocaine. Man, oh,
Speaker 2: reaching around and grabbing Ricky. He jumped angrily at him,
Speaker 2: and Ricky was out and running on the streets again
Speaker 2: because he's all like decrepit doing drugs up and you know.
Speaker 2: And then across the street, uh, this chick named Angela
Speaker 2: was getting into a car going to the mall when
Speaker 2: Ricky ran up, of course because the wom because he
Speaker 2: wouldn't do that to a man, because he's a pussy,
Speaker 2: and rapped her and struck her in the head in
Speaker 2: the driver's seat window, demanding her keys and hissing harshly.
Speaker 2: She screamed at the top of her lunges, give me Keith,
Speaker 2: He screamed at the top, What was scared of you?
Speaker 7: But now I can't take you seriously anymore? This is
Speaker 7: my car, actually, she.
Speaker 2: Screamed at the top of her lungs, and brought not
Speaker 2: only her husband but also the man who was fucking her.
Speaker 2: I'm just kidding, not only her husband but the man
Speaker 2: who owned the car he was trying to steal. Uh
Speaker 2: Ti that a meto TiVo. He screamed at her in
Speaker 2: Spanish again meaning I'm going to kill you. T that
Speaker 2: a metor sure Uh. While this was happening, two young
Speaker 2: men from very close knit neighborhood Uh Julian, Julio and
Speaker 2: a Shamie heard the screams from the father Jose calling
Speaker 2: him to come quickly, and ran over the driveway of
Speaker 2: the neighbor. Angelo's husband had grabbed a piece of metal
Speaker 2: post and, recognizing obviously Ricky as the knighte stucker, took
Speaker 2: a swing at him. And as they're running, Ali Matador,
Speaker 2: Ala matador, someone screened, meaning loosely translated in Spanish, the killer,
Speaker 2: the killer, So Ricky knew this was it. Manuel had
Speaker 2: cut up to him, giving him two more fast smashes
Speaker 2: to the head and wrist, breaking his wrist. Julian and
Speaker 2: Jamie or Julio whatever I'm gonna call him. Julio and
Speaker 2: Jamie had also caught up to Ricky and jumped on him,
Speaker 2: holding him down while sirens wailed in all directions. Helicopters
Speaker 2: world overhead, so they had everyone covered after him. The
Speaker 2: whole neighborhood was out on the street by the time
Speaker 2: the officer who got there had his part with Obviously
Speaker 2: the crowd had gotten to him because they were beaten,
Speaker 2: and everyone's just like he is running trying to get away.
Speaker 2: Welderly people are like hitting it with all sorts of
Speaker 2: shit and punching him him to the ground and they
Speaker 2: handcuffed him and they put him in the back seat.
Speaker 2: Is that crazy?
Speaker 3: Though?
Speaker 2: What a time man is getting like tracked down by
Speaker 2: all the this like the Mexican villagers.
Speaker 6: To finally ct like, good, that's somebody recognized too. I'm
Speaker 6: thinking back in the eighties, like, realistically, if somebody put
Speaker 6: a face out there, like, I don't know if i'd
Speaker 6: really I don't know if i'd recognize him out in public,
Speaker 6: because if I did, it'd be like, oh, that can't
Speaker 6: beat them.
Speaker 7: I'd immediately dismiss it.
Speaker 2: I know. Well, and that's like obviously is they called
Speaker 2: the bystander effect right where people like, uh, they they'll
Speaker 2: watch something happen and not do anything about it. But
Speaker 2: they finally caught him, uh you know after all this time,
Speaker 2: which is so wild and uh it's Ricky was crying
Speaker 2: for someone who had worshiped Satan.
Speaker 6: You know, He's like, no, the got caught and then
Speaker 6: and then he put his heart exterior back on for
Speaker 6: the afterwards.
Speaker 2: It is it is funny, can considering you see him throughout,
Speaker 2: like the court proceedings, they're gonna play a couple of
Speaker 2: clips of like him always like smiling and acting smug
Speaker 2: and all the things that he kind of did when
Speaker 2: after he got caught. But then at this time you're
Speaker 2: crying because finally you're a reign of terror has come
Speaker 2: to an end. That's so weird, man, you know, for
Speaker 2: someone who worshiped Satan, killed men, and was accused of
Speaker 2: assaulting an eight year old boy, not to mention numerous women,
Speaker 2: his bravado was gone. Satan, his protector had turned a
Speaker 2: blind eye to him. The officer broke protocol after reading
Speaker 2: Ricky his rights. You're the nice stucker, right, You're the
Speaker 2: night stucker, aren't you, he asked Ricky. Ricky nodded, snot
Speaker 2: in tears on his filthy face. Yeah, man, I'm yeah, man,
Speaker 2: I'm rich Ramirez. Shoot me, man, kill me. I don't
Speaker 2: deserve to live. Kill me now. The irony was not
Speaker 2: lost in the Los Angeles Police Department that their wrestling
Speaker 2: officer was named. The officers that arrested him was named
Speaker 2: Andre Ramirez. No relation.
Speaker 7: M hm oh that's just bad pr Yeah.
Speaker 2: Crazy.
Speaker 6: You know, people are just gonna be like, is it
Speaker 6: nad n Yeah, that's rough. Your family name's kind of
Speaker 6: tainted at that point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because everyone you think when people are like, oh
Speaker 2: it's Ramirez, right, it's like you definitely Bundy. You know,
Speaker 2: if you have that name, eventually have to kind of
Speaker 2: kind of take it. You don't have that name anymore. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so pretty wild.
Speaker 6: I would think that drawings you, for fox sakes, the
Speaker 6: drawing is so bad, it could be anybody.
Speaker 2: It's it's not good. But you say, with a lot
Speaker 2: of their sketches, right, but you know, and they they
Speaker 2: finally caught him, and now let's get to uh the trial.
Speaker 2: The circus trial essentially another clip. I love how they're
Speaker 2: like he presented a no nonsense case.
Speaker 6: It's like I saw I saw that soon and all
Speaker 6: I was thinking, actually at the end of this was
Speaker 6: the defense s lawyer getting a case like this immally
Speaker 6: mm hmmm.
Speaker 7: So how do we say this was an accident?
Speaker 6: Yeah, like, what do you have to like really slip
Speaker 6: the first time? I don't know of options.
Speaker 7: He just kept sliding from house to house, very unfortunate.
Speaker 2: He's like sliding on a trail of blood and somehow
Speaker 2: it's like knife just keeps going into everyone's.
Speaker 7: At that's where the slipping slide killer came from.
Speaker 2: Or maybe like he was you know, and then it's
Speaker 2: just like, well he didn't know any better, right, that's
Speaker 2: how like you gotta play it off like you know
Speaker 2: he was he was just using a finger painting, right,
Speaker 2: he was finger painting. He was figure the pentagrams, uh
Speaker 2: into my hitler got brought up earlier, so that's probably why.
Speaker 2: But pedagrams, he's his finger painting man. Ricky's family hired
Speaker 2: a young and hard working lawyer who was a professional
Speaker 2: friend of the family back in El Paso to represent
Speaker 2: this was problematic. I'm fucking sure it was confident though
Speaker 2: he might have been he was inexperienced in handling a
Speaker 2: case of this magnitude. Well, no fucking.
Speaker 7: Shit, man, were there experienced ones that you could have gotten.
Speaker 2: Well, they literally chose like a family friend, which was such.
Speaker 7: A done anyway, there's no winning. You're over. They got
Speaker 7: DNA evidence on you to tie to everything basically.
Speaker 2: Well and like and well you could kind of plead
Speaker 2: insanity or some of these other things that I've been
Speaker 2: are the only serial killer wasn't technically a serial killer,
Speaker 2: but what's his ed gene was the only one that
Speaker 2: got depleted insanity. He didn't he only killed three people,
Speaker 2: maybe not technically a serial killer, but he did dig
Speaker 2: up a bunch of bodies. So that's just fucking strange.
Speaker 2: But yeah, he was the only one that got insanity. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so who knows, right, and now he's now he's in jail,
Speaker 2: but that well he's dead now. But so essentially like
Speaker 2: he's so crazy. So he was not to mention he
Speaker 2: was not really licensed to practice law in the state
Speaker 2: of California. They didn't even try, Like, man, he's going down.
Speaker 2: Los Angeles District Attorney Office assisted the Deputy District Attorney p.
Speaker 2: Philip Helping to prosecute the case against Ricky. Judge Elver
Speaker 2: Soper Sopper also assisted the public defender's case and uh
Speaker 2: so Ricky claimed he had no representation. Very experienced and
Speaker 2: very tenacious helping fully expected to lay charges against Rocky
Speaker 2: by the end of the week that would make him
Speaker 2: a candidate for the death penalty. Unfortunately, this was not
Speaker 2: the case. Ricky was rejected the lawyers he rejected to
Speaker 2: let glorious family sent no ship. Well, I would probably
Speaker 2: do because I'd be like, Wow, this guy's not experienced.
Speaker 2: He's not gonna make this any better. It's so funny
Speaker 2: how hard he tries to look during all of his
Speaker 2: court appearances.
Speaker 7: Man, And he was crying when he got caught.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I can't he just indiscriminately murdering people, Like,
Speaker 2: come on, Satan said, I could, so dumb.
Speaker 7: For all?
Speaker 2: Yeah, is that what Satan does? Well, we all know
Speaker 2: who the who the you know the left. Once you
Speaker 2: start realizing who is, slap yourself out of it. Man,
Speaker 2: we got a little bit to go.
Speaker 7: No, I just met you.
Speaker 2: You can't handle it all? Yo, What the hell is
Speaker 2: that in your background? Man? Someone comes through that door.
Speaker 2: He smells of rutten cheese. Fuck me, I hope so
Speaker 2: I'm hungry. His family argued that Ricky was brainwashed by
Speaker 2: one of the lawyers and not being able to make
Speaker 2: his own decisions by what he had to do. The
Speaker 2: family brought in another pair of private practice criminal defense lawyers.
Speaker 2: Hearing after hearing ensued, but most know only when the
Speaker 2: hearing where Ricky was drawn a pedagran almost palm. Very famous,
Speaker 2: very famous picture of him when he has the pentagram
Speaker 2: and like he's like smiling, still praising Satan. So this
Speaker 2: is the very you know, this is the when a
Speaker 2: reporter took his picture, he held up out his palm
Speaker 2: upside down showed the Satanic symbol. More hearings, more antics ensued,
Speaker 2: but finally after the jury selected three and a half
Speaker 2: years after Rooky had been caught on August thirty first,
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty four, Rookie's trial was about to begin three
Speaker 2: and a half years after he got caught.
Speaker 6: Dude, see even that too, to say, like the to
Speaker 6: say the family made a mistake by hiring an inexperienced lawyer, Like.
Speaker 7: What Laurya's getting. He's like, I'm gonna just show everyone
Speaker 7: that I got this.
Speaker 6: I'm a hand too, So you also got to find
Speaker 6: a work around.
Speaker 2: I know, man, it's just like and he's you're you're
Speaker 2: admitting yourself the guilt. But I think there's part of
Speaker 2: me right that thinks that he wanted the death penalty.
Speaker 11: You know.
Speaker 7: Yeah, they probably didn't want to go to jail his
Speaker 7: a little bitch.
Speaker 2: Yeah he didn't, Yeah, because of what they would have
Speaker 2: done to him. But surprisingly he I needed terrible in
Speaker 2: jail and he he will get to it. But he
Speaker 2: lived quite a long time, man, pretty crazy dude. Women
Speaker 2: loved him, and that's like it's almost unfair that he
Speaker 2: was able to live out his life, you know, like
Speaker 2: he look at that man, how long he lived from
Speaker 2: when he was a young dude. For all the audio
Speaker 2: listeners were showing, we're showing fifties. Yeah, yeah, I think
Speaker 2: that's around his fifties. And when he did die, so crazy,
Speaker 2: he said in jail. Uh so, Ricky was being charged.
Speaker 2: Ricky Ricky, you know Richie rich was was charged with
Speaker 2: fourteen counts of first degree murder and thirty associated charges,
Speaker 2: including rape. You know, essay a centual song, robbery, sodomy, burglary,
Speaker 2: orial copulation, and attempted murder, a charge It's like, isn't
Speaker 2: isn't sectional song? Like the R word isn't not the
Speaker 2: same thing as oral copulation. It's the same thing, unwilling participant.
Speaker 7: It's another another little extra.
Speaker 2: For some reason, I like fireball, man, I always drank
Speaker 2: this whole thing, and I actually don't feel that bad.
Speaker 2: Oh something about it, man, It's just burns.
Speaker 7: Right, you know, centiment, I can't do it.
Speaker 6: Really, that was yeah, we well finished like a forty
Speaker 6: of one of those on my what was that my
Speaker 6: sixteenth birthday?
Speaker 2: I think I think did I didn't? Ew man, you
Speaker 2: guys did that? That's fucked up.
Speaker 7: Man, No, it was just me. I was on Barker
Speaker 7: there really. Yeah, I had like fu half the high
Speaker 7: school in my apartment building. We almost got.
Speaker 2: Affected forty e man's nasty.
Speaker 7: Yeah fireball since then.
Speaker 2: This is enough, But that's fine. I'm like I'm like
Speaker 2: satisfied after whatever. And it's always often, like so often
Speaker 2: I even drink Fireball, but like that's so gross, bro,
Speaker 2: Like if I'm drinking your whole night, you're just drinking
Speaker 2: this ship.
Speaker 7: Yeah. Well I didn't like liquor, and that was like
Speaker 7: the easiest liquor that you nasty good dear, Yeah it
Speaker 7: was gross, not crazy? Why are you?
Speaker 2: And then you mentioned like Richard Ers did bring the
Speaker 2: the eyeballs like home because he needs. Uh, serial killers
Speaker 2: keep some sort of trophies from their victims, you know,
Speaker 2: but this is this is how I felt, you know,
Speaker 2: after he like he was like he murdered that woman
Speaker 2: and like shot it in the head and then cool,
Speaker 2: I got, I gotta, I gotta at least use some
Speaker 2: of the sound effects that I did bring on for this.
Speaker 2: So pretty crazy when he requested the photos of the
Speaker 2: bloody crime scene for his first lawyer, Oh that's so
Speaker 2: crazy man. So okay, okay. Because he had been high
Speaker 2: during most of his activities, he could not or possibly
Speaker 2: just not give details of some of the crimes other
Speaker 2: otherwise or he would he would be more than happy
Speaker 2: to talk about them, I guess, because they like to
Speaker 2: revel in, uh in the murder in Mayhem.
Speaker 6: You know, He's like, I'm ninety sure I did it again.
Speaker 6: Not very good for your defense, attorney.
Speaker 7: I was really fucked up that I never remember the details.
Speaker 2: There's never been proven before, but I wonder if that
Speaker 2: could like work though, I was messed up. What are
Speaker 2: you drinking?
Speaker 6: Uh it's called uh hard green tea?
Speaker 7: What I fucking love it.
Speaker 6: The breweries down here are sick, so they got they
Speaker 6: got green tea in a cool maritime and then I
Speaker 6: got cherry Best.
Speaker 7: A little ground.
Speaker 2: Pretty cool man.
Speaker 6: The breweries down here are fucking awesome. There's so much
Speaker 6: better than ontarios.
Speaker 2: We never really drink on the show. As often as
Speaker 2: we used to. It's not the same. Haven you here
Speaker 2: where I can like touch your face? Yeah, cheers everybody.
Speaker 2: You know you want to see this that often as
Speaker 2: we used to back in the day. It makes you
Speaker 2: want to cry. It's been a long time, so yeah,
Speaker 2: he so he went, this is weird. So he requested
Speaker 2: photos of his crime scene uh from his first lawyer,
Speaker 2: and received him, and he put him on his cell walls,
Speaker 2: claiming that the other prisoners needed to know how badass
Speaker 2: he was. Maybe he just scare them away. He doesn't
Speaker 2: want poop thrown at him like they did for Paul Bernardo.
Speaker 6: That's the equivalent of like asking a friend about an
Speaker 6: old picture that you guys got together.
Speaker 7: You remember those pictures y'all took. Can I get some
Speaker 7: of them?
Speaker 2: Beside that motorcycle? Look?
Speaker 6: So hawk col I want, I was telling him the buddies,
Speaker 6: and they don't quite believe me.
Speaker 2: So look at me. I'll stand next to the most cycle,
Speaker 2: so hawk col I don't know.
Speaker 3: So.
Speaker 2: Of course, as officials found out about this, they removed
Speaker 2: this from his possessions within screaming loudly that his rights
Speaker 2: have been violated.
Speaker 7: Give it back to me.
Speaker 2: Is that crazy. You violated my rights.
Speaker 7: You don't get rights no more, buddy.
Speaker 2: You're done slowly a part of why you're in there.
Speaker 2: But by the time his argument seemed ridiculously simple and valid.
Speaker 2: If they were in my rights, those are my photos.
Speaker 2: I took those, you know, It's like it was self
Speaker 2: defense material and he had a right to it. That
Speaker 2: is the craziest bullshit that I've ever fucking heard been.
Speaker 2: And they serve their purpose. They scared the living hell
Speaker 2: out of the hard and criminals twice age inside the
Speaker 2: longer he had been a criminal himself. And the weird
Speaker 2: thing is, I think at first he was probably frightened.
Speaker 2: But if he did get this fear invoked out of
Speaker 2: people where they were scared of him to some extent, uh,
Speaker 2: then maybe he wouldn't be messed with. Because you know,
Speaker 2: when you are a child diddler, specially a child murderer,
Speaker 2: you're not treated very kindly, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: So you know.
Speaker 6: At the point though, too, it's like, yeah, we can
Speaker 6: kick the ship out of him, but unless we kill him,
Speaker 6: like he's going to come after us one time, yeah,
Speaker 6: and it's going to constantly watch your back forever like
Speaker 6: this guy's never going to give up until he gets
Speaker 6: you back.
Speaker 2: Maybe or it is like I just but there there
Speaker 2: is this thing right where it's like people like he's
Speaker 2: definitely a coward and he went after the weakest people.
Speaker 2: But but he was pretty sadistic, bro, And like the
Speaker 2: stuff that he did to people was beyond comprehension of
Speaker 2: most people that were criminals, even that like hotel criminals
Speaker 2: and stuff that were like, you know, putting the shooting
Speaker 2: people in the head, bearing him into unmarked graves and
Speaker 2: stuff like that. Like, let's play another clip, because just
Speaker 2: listen to what he talks about.
Speaker 11: Man, I think most humans have him them the capacity
Speaker 11: to commit murder.
Speaker 2: Uh, it is down Richard.
Speaker 11: They choose not to, not because they are morally superiors
Speaker 11: they so commonly claim, but because they are imprisoned in
Speaker 11: a way, but responsibilities, commitments now reliefs since the record,
Speaker 11: and that would render murder an absurd gamble or self destruction.
Speaker 6: He was on Maury Wild one of those Yeah, when
Speaker 6: he was bundant.
Speaker 2: We'll get it, we'll get to it. But but pretty
Speaker 2: wild man, pretty pretty wild, you know. Uh So I
Speaker 2: believe that Ricky knew he would never have been beaten, beaten,
Speaker 2: this stunning array of charges. There's no way he had
Speaker 2: asked for a famed legal counsel, Melvin Belly bell I
Speaker 2: or Belly to take his case. Bell I denied him,
Speaker 2: and not only from the perspective that the case was
Speaker 2: too far to be ever, like like he can't turn
Speaker 2: around now, But obviously with misconduct and the stakes, medical
Speaker 2: and psychological bills for Ricky went a mass to over
Speaker 2: three hundred thousand dollars alone. And that wasn't nineteen eighty five.
Speaker 2: I can't imagine what it would be cost to do
Speaker 2: testing on him now, three hundred thousand dollars at that
Speaker 2: time to just test him. Where the fuck dous our
Speaker 2: money go?
Speaker 7: Man? Just gotta see and like what do you what
Speaker 7: do you really gain out of that?
Speaker 2: Is Mariy dead? Is he dead?
Speaker 7: I was talking about Buddy, I.
Speaker 2: Was like, oh, yes, Like where did Mary die? I
Speaker 2: don't know Ma's dead? Did he die?
Speaker 3: So?
Speaker 2: Man, he's just so ruthless. Uh, just for for fun,
Speaker 2: because we're slowly coming to a close of this. This
Speaker 2: is a pretty This is a really rare interview of
Speaker 2: Richard Ramire's some that I've never seen. I only listen
Speaker 2: to a bit of it. So but a minute and
Speaker 2: a bit.
Speaker 3: Where I associate sex with violence break. Uh shit, man,
Speaker 3: that's a hard question. I I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 3: I can't answer that, meccount. I mean, oh no, no,
Speaker 3: we can't get into that.
Speaker 11: See she she tries, she tries, and makes you know,
Speaker 11: keeps me going.
Speaker 3: But I can't. I can't. So laugh like that, you're
Speaker 3: making me laugh. I hope, I hope you edit this
Speaker 3: real good, Philip, thank you.
Speaker 11: Okay, go ahead, man, what do you you know?
Speaker 3: I'm not the lost here? What do you want me
Speaker 3: to say? People? People made me think you hold on?
Speaker 2: You know, sometimes I can't.
Speaker 3: I can't say what I lose you. I am pending trial.
Speaker 11: Here as to uh, sex and violence.
Speaker 3: Many people.
Speaker 11: Are into sm M and bondage and stuff and and
Speaker 11: uh there's clubs that about.
Speaker 3: Me, well, sex and violence.
Speaker 2: Well, I.
Speaker 3: No, I don't think I'll answer that.
Speaker 9: What I agree that was a stupid answer, But Jesus,
Speaker 9: this was this isn't.
Speaker 3: Wicked, wicked world.
Speaker 11: And uh, in a wicked world you wicked people are born,
Speaker 11: you know, And his.
Speaker 2: Like non chalant laughing in the way he talks about
Speaker 2: this stuff.
Speaker 7: Nuts, Isn't that crazy?
Speaker 2: His many I've never seen that you ever. I only
Speaker 2: watched like a couple of seconds of when I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: this will be interesting because I wanted my own live reaction,
Speaker 2: and it's, uh, it's very bizarre the fact that he's
Speaker 2: able to like laugh about this ship and and it's
Speaker 2: weird man to like and he's like like leaning over
Speaker 2: the table for the audio fans, Like, it's very weird
Speaker 2: how he's like kind of just like it's nonchalant, like
Speaker 2: he does not have any care in the world. It's
Speaker 2: fun for him.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 7: That's that's hot.
Speaker 2: I God, damn hope not Marilyn Manson's fault. Yeah, it
Speaker 2: says so true Ted Bundy Blaine porn man, that's literally
Speaker 2: what Ted Bundy's like. It was porn. Porn made me
Speaker 2: fucking kill people so crazy, that's it's so disturbing. Just
Speaker 2: like I've never seen that interview where he's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's like I'm maybe I hope she was talking about
Speaker 2: like BDSM like it's it's that's all fine, But if
Speaker 2: between consensual people, I don't care. But like when you're
Speaker 2: like forcing it upon people and you want to when
Speaker 2: rich Emirez dead. That ship is.
Speaker 6: You heard it here first, Guys, if you didn't know,
Speaker 6: if it was bad, Tom, let you know.
Speaker 2: It's very bad.
Speaker 7: It's bad.
Speaker 6: You should you shouldn't do what he did very nice.
Speaker 6: That's why we had this podcast. All the people that
Speaker 6: were on the fence. Just now, you know, we say no, this.
Speaker 2: Is getting dark over here. You want to say that
Speaker 2: for the wild say for the audio listeners.
Speaker 7: I want him to tell me that I'm a good girl.
Speaker 6: You need therapy, talk to somebody.
Speaker 2: Why not? Just we're in this in this uh, in
Speaker 2: this lesson. This is uh. This is some of the
Speaker 2: one of the interviews, but I'd like to get more
Speaker 2: if we end up talking about this.
Speaker 3: This is uh.
Speaker 2: This is a woman who loved Richard Ramirez. Why on
Speaker 2: earth would you have hurt those people? Why did you
Speaker 2: kill those people?
Speaker 7: I just wanted to see he look like.
Speaker 13: I think he's cute.
Speaker 7: This is one of many female admirers who supported him
Speaker 7: during trial and his stay in prison.
Speaker 9: This is other Everyone makes them look so bad, you know,
Speaker 9: But I know that he's he's a nice person because
Speaker 9: I've met.
Speaker 7: Him, and I know he's convicted of thirteen murders. But
Speaker 7: he's really a nice though, and Ramirez is even playing
Speaker 7: with them. Look at what she says now. I said,
Speaker 7: how many other girls do you?
Speaker 2: I want to know?
Speaker 7: And he kind of laughed and said too, but you know,
Speaker 7: make me think that and believe that I was like
Speaker 7: the only one that.
Speaker 2: He liked that was ing.
Speaker 11: So he even manipulates them.
Speaker 2: That's crazy. Fine, he's a nice guy, We're we saying
Speaker 2: now when he's got this fucking blade down your throat.
Speaker 7: On trial for killing sixteen people.
Speaker 2: That's crazy. And they're like, uh, I think he's cute,
Speaker 2: and that's wrong with Bundy too. Buddy's been overdone. I
Speaker 2: was like debating if we'd ever cover him. Uh, but
Speaker 2: I kind of want to because he is so famous
Speaker 2: and it's such a crazy case. Man, But it's not
Speaker 2: so like obviously the court approved of these lawyers since
Speaker 2: it's what Ricky wanted, even though I don't know why
Speaker 2: he has any rights. The trial got underway, Ricky sat
Speaker 2: behind a pair of avated glasses. As we showed you
Speaker 2: know this, this these famous images of him, like very
Speaker 2: famous images of him, just like chilling out his aviated glasses.
Speaker 2: The kind of it was like a it was a mockery.
Speaker 2: It was a trial. It was a circus trial, like literally,
Speaker 2: it was a clown in the clown world we live in.
Speaker 2: So it doesn't even matter. But yeah, he knew what
Speaker 2: was going to happen. I believe that he felt that
Speaker 2: the trial was both a waste of time and a
Speaker 2: way of the public to continue to demonize him. And
Speaker 2: he probably got off on this of his fame. Everybody's
Speaker 2: watching him, he's feeding off of it. If he does
Speaker 2: believe in these demonic and dark forces, they're somehow fueling that.
Speaker 2: In my opinion, because I do think that is quite possible.
Speaker 2: This is good going off the rails a bit. So
Speaker 2: he knew. Yeah, So if it wasn't for the media,
Speaker 2: you know, and how they received it, he would yell
Speaker 2: like hail Satan or like glare at the bailiff. He
Speaker 2: did not participate much while Halla produced a mass of
Speaker 2: five hundred and twenty one exhibits and one hundred and
Speaker 2: thirty seven witnesses. That's crazy all testifying against Richie.
Speaker 6: You feel like case there, I think you did, showing showing.
Speaker 2: He had committed the crimes he was being charged with.
Speaker 2: The crime scene photos were in the book in front
Speaker 2: of Ricky, he looked through them. I'm convinced this and
Speaker 2: less to do with the indifference. There is more to
Speaker 2: do with his actual memories of having committed the crimes himself.
Speaker 2: And we've learned this about serial killers, as they like
Speaker 2: revel and their crime and they want to relive it
Speaker 2: over and over again. As I've told Aaron that Aaron
Speaker 2: wanted to be a part of this, which is sad
Speaker 2: because he actually finds Richard is very interesting. He's fascinated
Speaker 2: by him. But I said that if he can come
Speaker 2: on the Edmund Kemper one, that one's even crazier, in
Speaker 2: my opinion. She said that Emmin Kemper did equally crazy,
Speaker 2: but in different ways. And the case most certainly had
Speaker 2: negative effects on the jury. Who was you know. Obviously
Speaker 2: they're flabbergasted by Ricky's defense. The TU attorney's defending him
Speaker 2: simply stated, the witnesses were mistaken and it wasn't their client.
Speaker 2: It wasn't him. It's not this guy, it's not him.
Speaker 7: You have you seen the sketch doesn't look anything like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's nothing like him. You know what did a
Speaker 2: two year old drawl this ship. What are we doing?
Speaker 7: Man?
Speaker 2: It looks like a very old version of himself. So
Speaker 2: look at this picture and then look at this one.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's getting.
Speaker 3: So.
Speaker 2: It was so weird. Man, it's me It's the night stalker.
Speaker 7: I'm the problem.
Speaker 2: It's me Hi. I killed that chick. It's me Hi.
Speaker 2: She's a fucking bitch in any any case, most certainly
Speaker 2: the negative effects on the journey so dumb. He had
Speaker 2: been in Las is very late. So anyone that's listening
Speaker 2: to the audio, it's like twelve Billy's time eleven. So
Speaker 2: he had been al Paso visiting his father Julian when
Speaker 2: one when one assault had been committed, and produced his
Speaker 2: father to testify. Pretty crazy. Evidence was not exact. There
Speaker 2: were four year samples. I had thousands of people trample
Speaker 2: on them and touch This with a lot of these
Speaker 2: cases is they have tons of people touching them. So
Speaker 2: on July twenty On July twenty sixth, nineteen eighty nine,
Speaker 2: the jury was instructed to begin deliberations. They had over
Speaker 2: eight thousand pages of trial transcripts and six hundred and
Speaker 2: fifty five exhibits to consider. The bulk of the document
Speaker 2: documents concerned the murder case, which were special circumstances, meaning
Speaker 2: that Ricky was ineligible for death browl for each one
Speaker 2: there was fourteen. The one was in Orange County had
Speaker 2: been dropped and tried and sped up in the process.
Speaker 2: In the trial in Los Angeles, they began, but within
Speaker 2: a week the jury was removed for a continued napping
Speaker 2: during deliberations. They had to go to sleep, and is
Speaker 2: a little wonder why they accused. The accused finds it
Speaker 2: hard to have a faith in a jury when they
Speaker 2: find out the information such as this when they're facing
Speaker 2: the death penalty. But there was one more August fourteenth,
Speaker 2: jur named Phyllis whatever her last name was, found shot
Speaker 2: shot to death in her apartment. Whoa the papers I
Speaker 2: forgot about that is Sue reported that her boyfriend, who
Speaker 2: soon after killed himself in the same gun in the hotel.
Speaker 2: He had killed her and pretty crazy, so one of
Speaker 2: the jurist worried about her boyfriends. His suicide note stated
Speaker 2: that he had argued with her over the trial. That's
Speaker 2: Rich Ruemiers. I like him, he was my friend. That's
Speaker 2: not what he said. I'm making that up. The judge
Speaker 2: called the jury together and told him they must continue,
Speaker 2: and they brought him to another altimate whom I'm sure
Speaker 2: was petrified. Ricky screened in the court that it was
Speaker 2: all fucked up. Everything was so fucked up, and the
Speaker 2: legal team was brought fought hard for a misstrow, which
Speaker 2: frankly he had not had. The jury was inexplicitly tainted.
Speaker 2: The shooting had psychological effects on the jurors, making it
Speaker 2: impossible to actually have a fair deliberation for his guilty
Speaker 2: or innocent. But they went on. In September twentieth, they
Speaker 2: announced that they had reached their anonymous decision on each
Speaker 2: count of forty three counts of murder. Well, it's for
Speaker 2: three counts of guilt. They all voted that he was guilty.
Speaker 2: I mean, the music does make it better, it makes
Speaker 2: it more South of the I find it does.
Speaker 7: I enjoyed, I enjoyed the train.
Speaker 2: What is crazy is like this is like a wrap
Speaker 2: up too. Someone is in the jury, their boyfriend murders
Speaker 2: like them because of an argument they had over the trial.
Speaker 2: Like that's crazy that that happened. Man, Like, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I saw him in court, you know, I saw the
Speaker 2: pentagram ma. He just likes he just likes some rock music,
Speaker 2: mauper heavy kill.
Speaker 6: I'm curious who was who is defending what? I'm wondering
Speaker 6: if she was defending Richie or he was. Maybe that
Speaker 6: was the argument.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. There's a lot of crazy women
Speaker 2: that like Richardmiers so, uh, that's on forever. So when
Speaker 2: when we did our first episode on it and it
Speaker 2: went on YouTube and it got like whatever, a couple
Speaker 2: hundred views or whatever at the time, way back in
Speaker 2: the day, there was someone that commented that, like, and
Speaker 2: they're her like tigger name was like I love Richie
Speaker 2: or so some crazy like that. And I'm not joking.
Speaker 2: When there's a lot of especially women that for some
Speaker 2: reason love Richardumirez, it is fucking bizarre and weird. Whoops,
Speaker 2: not that one. It's not what I meant to Sorry, YouTube,
Speaker 2: that's not what I meant to. Actually delete those right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: you like that teeth?
Speaker 7: You like that rotting gum? Oh fucking gross, so gross?
Speaker 2: Howatoasis man, You're gonna get that if you keep smoking cigarettes,
Speaker 2: white lady, because they're all your teeth are fake.
Speaker 7: Only one they are desires.
Speaker 11: Whereas if where if I didn't give into them, I
Speaker 11: would be crushed by them. I believe in the in
Speaker 11: the evil in human nature. This is a wicked, wicked world,
Speaker 11: and uh, in a wicked world, wicked people are born.
Speaker 3: I'm not going to blame society, my race, or people
Speaker 3: or anything. Uh.
Speaker 11: It is up to the individual like myself to keep
Speaker 11: on knocking on whatever door they want to get into.
Speaker 11: As far as Satan is concerned, I believe that you
Speaker 11: a malevolent being.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 11: His description eludes me, but I have felt powers that
Speaker 11: are evil. I don't care about myself really, you know,
Speaker 11: I don't care about what happens to me.
Speaker 3: I never did. Really, it's so bizarre.
Speaker 7: It's just not true though, because you cried when you
Speaker 7: got caught.
Speaker 2: I know he's acting tough, but he's like Satan. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I think he's cried over Satan man told me I
Speaker 2: was cut, like and he would say stuff like you
Speaker 2: better like hail Satan stuff and when you like put
Speaker 2: guns to people's head. He made one woman she was like,
Speaker 2: oh God, and he's like there's no God here. Uh,
Speaker 2: like like pray to Satan essentially, like he's a wild Yeah.
Speaker 2: It's so crazy. And the thing is like, I'm sure
Speaker 2: that he felt this darkness. I'm sure that he felt
Speaker 2: that when he was doing this.
Speaker 6: I believe it, I you know, And no, he.
Speaker 2: Never felt remorse, but I do think that he he
Speaker 2: felt these demonic forces. You know, I've talked about this everyone, Like,
Speaker 2: I'm not religious. I have a lot of friends that
Speaker 2: are are Christian. For some reason that keeps creeping into
Speaker 2: my life for some reason, I'm like, why are you
Speaker 2: doing this? Uh? But you know that there is people liked,
Speaker 2: there's no evidence of God, but there is evidence of
Speaker 2: of evil. And if there is evil, there is good.
Speaker 2: So like realistically that try look at things objectively, and
Speaker 2: I do think there's a there's benevolent forces that care
Speaker 2: for us or humanity or the spiritual revolution of us,
Speaker 2: and there's definitely demonic forces that will take hold of
Speaker 2: us if given the opportunity.
Speaker 7: Would you agree that's fair? That's fair?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 8: So?
Speaker 2: Uh So, when we think about serial killers like Ed
Speaker 2: Gee not technically or Arthur Shawcross crazy case dude comes
Speaker 2: to mind. They were you know, the originators, but Ricky
Speaker 2: like they were like the ogs. Ricky was kind of
Speaker 2: like he kind of took hold of this. Yes, He's
Speaker 2: like he's like the you know, he's intimidate, he's uh,
Speaker 2: he's he's just being he's you know, he's doing his
Speaker 2: own thing. But he's copy he's a copycat he and
Speaker 2: he probably liked that the idea this got so much
Speaker 2: media attention. He's on Moury. Yeah, they put him on Moury,
Speaker 2: Like how crazy is that? Ship Man?
Speaker 6: That seems easy to shows like that. Now the cash
Speaker 6: Outside girl got on it.
Speaker 2: You are not the father like the Hawk two chick,
Speaker 2: which was supposed to be. I heard some conspiracy theories
Speaker 2: about her man. Yeah, uh she was an Israeli soldier.
Speaker 6: Oh okay, yeah, her dad is a billionaire.
Speaker 2: And now she's having her own new podcast. Uh and
Speaker 2: she is.
Speaker 9: She is.
Speaker 2: Youwish that was a fact that she had pretty weird
Speaker 2: ship man facts.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: She was on Howie Mandel's show and they like showed
Speaker 2: her thing and she's Ashkenazi. It's like, oh wow, isn't
Speaker 2: that convenient? And then all her a thing got scrubbed
Speaker 2: from the internet and supposed to be she had TikTok
Speaker 2: where she doesn't have a Southern draw at all. Uh.
Speaker 2: So everything is fake, maybe gay, but everything is definitely fake.
Speaker 2: So anyway, yes, we're wrapping it up. Billy, I know
Speaker 2: you're getting tied. It's so fine. Drink some coffee, snort
Speaker 2: some heroin. It's fine.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: But you know, he he, I think he was. He was.
Speaker 2: He was interested by the blood spill and like being
Speaker 2: notorious for the fame. Right there he goes the sunglasses
Speaker 2: and the heavy metal the interview. He oh, even today
Speaker 2: he is infamous for trying kind of Grandpa's palm flashing
Speaker 2: in the court room. To such behavior would be unheard
Speaker 2: of and highly ill advanced by the criminal defense attorney.
Speaker 2: But even if I had been advised against such behavior,
Speaker 2: I suspect he would have done it and what he
Speaker 2: wanted anyway. Uh So, to simply put it, he didn't
Speaker 2: you know, he didn't care about the code of ethics
Speaker 2: or law. Uh. He stated to the court before he
Speaker 2: was sentenced over a loud speaker from his spell beyond
Speaker 2: Good art, I can't do it, Richard is beyond good
Speaker 2: or evil? You know something else beyond good or evil.
Speaker 2: There was no remorse, no apology for thevictims' families. He
Speaker 2: simply stated that they had been lies in the past
Speaker 2: and he would be lies in the future. They would
Speaker 2: be lies in the future. We the people, we're incapable
Speaker 2: of understanding him. He said, I am beyond your experience.
Speaker 2: For many, Richard Marras is the original natural born killer.
Speaker 2: You know who I am, don't you. I am the
Speaker 2: one they're writing about in the newspapers and on TV.
Speaker 2: I love Satan, he said after he says this to
Speaker 2: so oh Wow. So here we go. This is all
Speaker 2: of his quotes. I know. I'm aware of that podcast.
Speaker 2: We are the dollar store version of it, according to
Speaker 2: some reject people. So I'm gonna play. I'm gonna play
Speaker 2: someone his chatard some checks. I'm gonna play. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: say some of his quotes. Okay, I love Satan. I've
Speaker 2: killed twenty people, man, I love all that blood. It's
Speaker 2: bragging in jail. I love to kill people. I love
Speaker 2: watching them die. I would shoot them in the head
Speaker 2: and they would wiggle and square them all over the place,
Speaker 2: and then they just stop when I cut them with
Speaker 2: a knife and watch their faces turn white and spin wins. Now,
Speaker 2: I love all that blood. I told one lady to
Speaker 2: give me all her money, and she said no, So
Speaker 2: I cut her and I pulled out her eyes. He
Speaker 2: told Deputy Sheriff Jim and Ellis. It's nothing you'd understand,
Speaker 2: but I do say I do have something to say.
Speaker 2: In fact, I have a lot to say, and that
Speaker 2: was at the time of place. I don't know why
Speaker 2: I'm wasting my time of breath. What the hell as
Speaker 2: for what is said about my life? There's been lies
Speaker 2: in the past, there have been lies in the future.
Speaker 2: I don't believe in the hypocritical, moralistic dogma of this
Speaker 2: so called civilized society. I need not to look beyond
Speaker 2: the room, see the liars and haters, the killers, the crooks,
Speaker 2: the paranoid cowards, the truly these weirdos on the earth.
Speaker 2: And is that what he said to TORMENTEDO. I don't
Speaker 2: know said each of these own legal professions. You maggots
Speaker 2: make me sick. Hypocrites one and all, And no one
Speaker 2: knows that better than those who killed for policy, clandestinely
Speaker 2: or openly, as do the governments which kill the name
Speaker 2: of the God in our country, and for whatever reason
Speaker 2: they do inappropriate. I do not need to hear on
Speaker 2: societies rationalizations. I've heard them before. In fact, this remains
Speaker 2: it is what it is. It is what it is,
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna play this clip and uh, oh this
Speaker 2: is so funny.
Speaker 12: Man.
Speaker 2: Oh, we're gonna end it on this at some point.
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna play this clip. I'm gonna find out
Speaker 2: when he died in Jaws who played this clip, because
Speaker 2: it's one of the most famous clips of him having
Speaker 2: an interview. And then I have a very funny thing dad,
Speaker 2: this on. Okay?
Speaker 7: Nice?
Speaker 11: Sure, Just several killers do on a small scale of
Speaker 11: what governments doing a large one. They we are a
Speaker 11: product of the times, and these are bloodthirsty times. Even
Speaker 11: psychopaths have emotions if you dig deep enough.
Speaker 3: But then again, maybe they don't. Do you have emotions
Speaker 3: with you? No comment? Tell me what kind of emotions
Speaker 3: You're not going with her?
Speaker 11: You're right now, I'll tell you what I gave up
Speaker 11: on love and happiness a long time ago.
Speaker 3: Why I don't care to explain that. Let the quote
Speaker 3: stand for itself.
Speaker 11: People in this day and age are brainwashed and programmed
Speaker 11: like a computer. It being nothing more than public This nation,
Speaker 11: this country's founded in violence. Violent delights tend to have
Speaker 11: violent ends. It's madness is something rare in individuals, but
Speaker 11: in groups of people in ages, it is a rule.
Speaker 11: Killing is killing whether done for duty, profit or fun.
Speaker 11: Men murdered themselves into this democracy.
Speaker 3: Iterating your script, Richard, But you're not much an answer
Speaker 3: in my direct question.
Speaker 8: A lot was made that you're a devil worshiper, You
Speaker 8: worship the devil.
Speaker 3: Have you ever studied Satanism?
Speaker 11: There are different sects of Satanism.
Speaker 3: Have you still just yes or no?
Speaker 2: Have you studied?
Speaker 4: Yes? I have?
Speaker 5: Are you?
Speaker 2: Are you a worshiper of the devil?
Speaker 3: No comment? Come on, Richard, I can tell you a
Speaker 3: little bit about Satanism.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm interested in hearing what you got to say.
Speaker 11: It is undefiled wisdom instead of hypocritical self deceit.
Speaker 3: It is power, power without charity. A Satanist admits to
Speaker 3: being evil, even admit to being evil. Richard. We are
Speaker 3: all evil in some form. We're in an urban are
Speaker 3: we not.
Speaker 5: I'm asking you about.
Speaker 11: Yes, I am evil, not one hundred percent, but I
Speaker 11: am evil.
Speaker 3: Evil has always existed, perfect world.
Speaker 11: More people seek, She'll never come to pass, and it's
Speaker 11: gonna get worse. The great inbox of our life is
Speaker 11: when we gained the courage to rebaptize our evil qualities
Speaker 11: as being in our best qualities.
Speaker 2: Pretty crazy man. So it's just he's that's why he's
Speaker 2: one of the most interesting serial killers in my opinion.
Speaker 2: And he has connections to Satanism, and I think darker
Speaker 2: things than we can imagine. And I think he was
Speaker 2: connected to things like I don't know, like mk ultr shit,
Speaker 2: I don't know. There's some conspiracies one hundred percent about
Speaker 2: him that at some point might touch upon. But prisoners
Speaker 2: get ill a lot of times. They can say that
Speaker 2: it probably was cancer and a kind of heart failure,
Speaker 2: like liver disease. But sometime in early June twenty thirteen,
Speaker 2: Ramirez at the age of fifty three, and you can
Speaker 2: see this. So he had like girlfriends in jail.
Speaker 6: Did you say twenty eighteen, twenty thirteen, Oh, okay, so
Speaker 6: he had uh he had girlfriends in jail and pretty
Speaker 6: wild and then uh yeah he uh.
Speaker 2: He died of natural causes waiting for the death penalty,
Speaker 2: which is like crazy. It's almost like Satan gave him
Speaker 2: like mercy as so coo weird as that sounds, and
Speaker 2: he took his last breath. He likely die alone. His
Speaker 2: friends and loved ones were out allowed inside the secured room.
Speaker 2: You're a shackle to your bed and there's a guard
Speaker 2: outside the room. At the hospital staff knows that your
Speaker 2: death is imminent, they might have a nurse president of Fortunately,
Speaker 2: most of the time they just find the inmate dead,
Speaker 2: you know, when they're just passing their checks and he
Speaker 2: just died naturally. Rami or self proclaimed Satanist satan worshiper,
Speaker 2: spent twenty three years on death row. At the time
Speaker 2: of his death, he became the fifty ninth California inmate
Speaker 2: to die of natural causes while waiting for waiting for execution.
Speaker 7: By estimate, how does it take that long?
Speaker 2: This was crazy our job. But at the same time,
Speaker 2: the amount of people that have there's been a lot
Speaker 2: of people that have been murdered, Innocent people have been
Speaker 2: murdered by the death penalty. That's a fact. So many.
Speaker 2: So he would have been in his seventies probably by
Speaker 2: the time he's placed in the in the gas chamber,
Speaker 2: you know. So ra Mirror's had never got the opportunity
Speaker 2: to give his kind of final statement. And that's why
Speaker 2: I said, you like one of his last things by uh.
Speaker 2: But at this sentencing and during court he did say,
Speaker 2: you don't understand me. You're not expected to. You're not capable.
Speaker 2: I am beyond your experience. I am beyond good and evil.
Speaker 2: I will be avenged scary shit. So here we go.
Speaker 2: We're gonna play a questionnaire with Richard Ramirez.
Speaker 7: Okay, let's do it.
Speaker 2: What is his favorite sports?
Speaker 7: What's his favorite sport?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Can you guess? There's three? Soccer now, rugby, football,
Speaker 2: in boxing.
Speaker 7: Ah, that makes sense.
Speaker 2: Favorite music rock and roll at the time. We've been
Speaker 2: heavy metal.
Speaker 7: That's considered heavy metal at the time.
Speaker 2: Really, yeah, Satan, you know that's like he loves Satan.
Speaker 7: Like rock and roll.
Speaker 2: Bro, this is so stupid. I don't know where we
Speaker 2: got this information from. I don't know if it's accurate.
Speaker 2: But this is fun famous favorite actress.
Speaker 7: Favorite actress who was big in the eighties.
Speaker 2: I don't even know this chick.
Speaker 7: So you're going to, oh, well, then that seems pointless
Speaker 7: for me to.
Speaker 2: Catch Samantha Strong. I want to look her up.
Speaker 7: Now, I'm not sure who that is.
Speaker 2: Let's see if she's a good looking lady. Let's find out,
Speaker 2: all right. I can see it, Richie, I can see it.
Speaker 2: Will bring up on stage. Let's see, let's see what
Speaker 2: we have to present. Let's see you know I could
Speaker 2: see it. Yeah, right, that's definitely her. Look at that.
Speaker 2: You know, why not?
Speaker 6: You know, good looking lady? Do you posters typical? I've
Speaker 6: never heard. I've never heard of that lady either.
Speaker 2: Favorite vacationing spot. This is a trick question because it's
Speaker 2: kind of funny. Someone must have someone must have done
Speaker 2: this with him in jail Florida uranus. This is literally
Speaker 2: I supposed you with the questionnaire that he did. I
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 2: This is a questionnaire with Richard. Richard appeared to answer
Speaker 2: me issue for wild Okay, so favorite food this is
Speaker 2: even another offshoot women's feet. Okay, favorite color it should
Speaker 2: be easy black or red red?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 2: Pastime hobbies.
Speaker 6: Killing, watching, peeping, he's peeping tom uh.
Speaker 2: Essay, traveling and measuring coffins. He really liked his die.
Speaker 2: He really likes to like dig his feet into that
Speaker 2: persona of like bad boy. I'm a crazy fuck, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean? Biggest, like it should be like biggest,
Speaker 2: like yeah, tap tapping the nose all cocaine, yeahin biggest
Speaker 2: dislikes cops. I thought you're very good authority and hypocrites.
Speaker 7: Yeah, make a wish, I wish they let them go.
Speaker 2: To have He says, to have my finger on a
Speaker 2: nuclear trigger device?
Speaker 7: Oh wild?
Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you look for in a girl?
Speaker 7: Heartbeat?
Speaker 2: Would it be no heartbeat? You know what I mean?
Speaker 7: No, I said, at first, you don't want someone else
Speaker 7: to kill them?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wish I had this sound effect.
Speaker 7: I had submissive.
Speaker 2: Probably he liked a grass, nice ass and good legs.
Speaker 7: Okay grass.
Speaker 2: It's funny that, like the eighties were definitely the eighties
Speaker 2: are definitely a thing where it was definitely about the legs.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry to call it my dad, but my dad
Speaker 2: uh is kind of a leg man. I've asked him
Speaker 2: and he's like, he likes the legs, And I'm like, hmm,
Speaker 2: what a what a like? You know, almost guys are astratits,
Speaker 2: you know, you know realistically, that's really what it is.
Speaker 2: You're an asratic guy. What do you prefer on a woman?
Speaker 2: But I remember talking to my dad one day It's like,
Speaker 2: I actually like could like chicken with nice para legs. Like, huh,
Speaker 2: It's a different one but still valid.
Speaker 11: You know.
Speaker 2: Someone's like, I like a good navel, yeah, and you'd
Speaker 2: be like, I can see it. One guy's like oh man,
Speaker 2: you know I love ear legs. Yeah toes. Yeah, those
Speaker 2: dudes that definitely do that. Ship man a good ear lobe.
Speaker 2: You know, I suck the curvature of it, can't stick
Speaker 2: out too much. Came go to goblin elf. Maybe you know,
Speaker 2: maybe it's so dumb uh heartbeats some people that chat
Speaker 2: it so uh, perfect way to spend a date. Think
Speaker 2: about what he would want to do, not like, not
Speaker 2: like like disturbingly, think about what he would.
Speaker 7: Say, oh like uh making them cook for him.
Speaker 2: That's actually a good point. That's very funny. Moonlight night
Speaker 2: drinking rum at a cemetery. I didn't know he's a
Speaker 2: rum guy.
Speaker 6: Moonlight cemetery, wild, absolutely insane.
Speaker 2: Describe yourself asshole and proud of it. I'd say the
Speaker 2: same thing about yes.
Speaker 6: Motto if they got away, it's because you were too slow.
Speaker 7: Get him next time.
Speaker 2: They got away. It means the gay each day as
Speaker 2: if it's your last. And he definitely did that. So yes,
Speaker 2: if you like a girl, how do you get a
Speaker 2: girl to notice you? This is the craziest David.
Speaker 7: Mad forcefully I pull my gun.
Speaker 2: Penis. What's one thing I know what I hate about
Speaker 2: kids nowadays is one thing I did that. I was like,
Speaker 2: I hate that kids wear their hats. This is not
Speaker 2: even on your head, man, fucking retards. So what's one
Speaker 2: thing you would change about yourself?
Speaker 7: Oh uh, he wishes that he had better teeth.
Speaker 2: Not a damn thing I expect where I'm at. How
Speaker 2: is your life changed the result of your success?
Speaker 7: That's he's in prison.
Speaker 2: Now what is he he's in He's in the eye
Speaker 2: of the media, right, h Privacy is a thing of
Speaker 2: the past. One more, what is your favorite message to
Speaker 2: your fans? Keep on trucking. That's not what he said.
Speaker 2: It's like, keep your spirit strong. This is fun. I
Speaker 2: wanted to do Richarmier's justice. There's a lot of detail
Speaker 2: in this stuff, a lot of stuff to this case.
Speaker 2: But he's just such a fascinating guy to me, you know,
Speaker 2: just such a bizarre, bizarre guy that existed and and
Speaker 2: and very much reveled in his sadistic behavior. Do you
Speaker 2: have one or where you going to know one?
Speaker 8: Oh?
Speaker 7: Yeah, I got the coolest one ever too.
Speaker 2: There you go, it's time for.
Speaker 8: You.
Speaker 2: Were like, if you ever have children, your grandchildren, I'd
Speaker 2: be like, man, that my uncle, my my my uncle,
Speaker 2: my father loved my grandfather really like to yell his name.
Speaker 6: Uh it's another animal one. But you're gonna like this. Okay, wombats.
Speaker 7: What do you know about?
Speaker 2: Not much. I feel like I knew more about them
Speaker 2: when I was younger.
Speaker 7: They're cool. Okay, well we do this.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna bring up wombats. Wombats, So, first off, their
Speaker 6: ass cheeks are like steel. What if they like Foxes
Speaker 6: hunt wombats. So if a fox is trying to get
Speaker 6: a wombat cute, they can't bite through their ass. So
Speaker 6: what the wombat does is they go headfirst into a
Speaker 6: hole with only their ass showing out. The fox and
Speaker 6: coyote is trying to like nip at their ass and
Speaker 6: they can't. They're not really doing anything. So what the
Speaker 6: fox will try to do, or the coyote or whatever
Speaker 6: it will try to like squeeze beside the wombat, and
Speaker 6: as soon as it does, the wombat uses its steel
Speaker 6: ass to like crush its skull against the side.
Speaker 2: Of the What what they're very cute? Look how big
Speaker 2: this thing is, So for all theers go look up
Speaker 2: the wombat on Google. This thing is fucking like half
Speaker 2: the size of a human. It's huge.
Speaker 7: Yeah, so they their asses are steel that I thought
Speaker 7: that was cool.
Speaker 2: Why look at it right there? You got it?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Why is there butt steel? Who who made this thing?
Speaker 2: So I'm like, are we just like a creation of aliens?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 13: Man?
Speaker 2: I fucking people I was at work party. They're all Christians.
Speaker 2: They're like, oh, fucking God Jesus, And I'm like, man,
Speaker 2: I don't know, man, Like I I believe that there
Speaker 2: might be an almighty being that like thought reality and creation.
Speaker 2: That could be a possibility. Who knows, but I don't
Speaker 2: tend to believe in like the fucking organized religious bullshit.
Speaker 2: And it's just like there are some weird creatures out there.
Speaker 2: They're like, man, they just seem like they were just
Speaker 2: made in a laboratory. Somebody's like, this would be cool
Speaker 2: if we cross bread this when like everybody watching on
Speaker 2: the video or on the audio, a couple of wombat
Speaker 2: who made this thing? It's like, what do you think
Speaker 2: this is a cross between? It's kind of like, I
Speaker 2: don't even know what you It's like it kind of
Speaker 2: is like a house and a bear. It's very weird, dude,
Speaker 2: A squirrel bear mouse thing, yeah, with buns of steel,
Speaker 2: so weird you have weird fun facts. It is very late.
Speaker 2: It's almost one am Billy's time, almost midnight my time.
Speaker 2: I had fun during this episode. Everybody else did. I
Speaker 2: actually drank quite a bit considering I feel pretty cool.
Speaker 2: Mob bets are very cute. Yes they are, thank you,
Speaker 2: thank you.
Speaker 7: Adorable.
Speaker 2: They are adorable, you know.
Speaker 3: So.
Speaker 2: I just want everyone to know that we love the
Speaker 2: only guys and we appreciate you guys joining us. I
Speaker 2: miss Billy being next to me. I just want to
Speaker 2: touch his face. Touch it? Wait, which side the side?
Speaker 7: Do it again?
Speaker 2: Billy's living in a nineteen fucking eighty seven trailer. It's
Speaker 2: fun times. But everybody that washed to listen, we appreciate you.
Speaker 2: I'm debating if I'm gonna combine these is one huge
Speaker 2: episode for the audio or just release them as too.
Speaker 2: We'll see what I do. Who knows, but we have
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Speaker 2: to the OG episode of this fifty minutes. It was
Speaker 2: very short, actually, so I wanted to do Richard and
Speaker 2: as Justice a lot to this Gates. I'm glad we've
Speaker 2: got him out of the way and now we can
Speaker 2: get back to some other fuckers. So everybody, Yeah, I
Speaker 2: love you.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Avoi usu