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<v Speaker 1>This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI

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<v Speaker 1>AM six forty The Gary and Shannon Show on demand

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<v Speaker 1>on the iHeartRadio app.

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<v Speaker 2>What Else is going on?

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<v Speaker 3>Time for What's Happening?

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<v Speaker 2>Wow?

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<v Speaker 1>Stories we are following that seemed to be making the

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<v Speaker 1>rounds today. Unfortunately, a tragedy out of Oxnard by way

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<v Speaker 1>of the Valley. A teenager reported missing thirteen year old

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<v Speaker 1>boy under the San Fernando Vality over the weekend. His

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<v Speaker 1>body has been discovered. The FBI has been called in.

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<v Speaker 1>La Police Roberty Homicide led the investigation. They received information

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<v Speaker 1>that his body may have been in a wooded area

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<v Speaker 1>in Oxnard, and that is in fact where they found

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<v Speaker 1>the body. You've got to believe they have an idea

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<v Speaker 1>of who is responsible for this. Otherwise we would know

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<v Speaker 1>that they were searching for someone who stole a thirteen

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<v Speaker 1>year old boy and killed him if they didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>anybody in mind. This boy, Oscar Hernandez, a student at

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<v Speaker 1>Sun Valley Magnet School. Family says Oscar took a train

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<v Speaker 1>to Lancaster over the weekend to visit a friend, but

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<v Speaker 1>never came home. Reported missing on Sunday. Family said they

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<v Speaker 1>knew there was something wrong when they tried to call

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<v Speaker 1>Oscar and the acquaintance would answer, saying that the teenager

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<v Speaker 1>could not come to the phone, then couldn't remember when

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<v Speaker 1>he dropped Oscar back off at the train station to

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<v Speaker 1>go home. So apparently we're talking about an acquaintance now,

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<v Speaker 1>see I readily or friend. But now acquaintance sounds like

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<v Speaker 1>an adult person, doesn't it. And maybe that this acquaintance

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<v Speaker 1>slash adult person maybe the person that they are looking

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<v Speaker 1>at for the murder. The family has been talking to NBC.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously no words, really not really talking. This is a

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<v Speaker 1>little boy thirteen years old, love soccer and with nice

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<v Speaker 1>kid talk to anybody, his sister says Alexandra. But wow, unfortunate,

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<v Speaker 1>awful story, awful ending to that story of the missing

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<v Speaker 1>boy out of the valley. Storms have killed six people

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<v Speaker 1>in the South and Midwest. Forecasters say catastrophic rains floods

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<v Speaker 1>is what we're looking at. Tornadoes, violent winds, flattening homes,

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<v Speaker 1>ripping apart buildings from Oklahoma to Indiana. And this is

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<v Speaker 1>just the first round of storms that are are going

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<v Speaker 1>to be setting record setting rains and life threatening flash

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<v Speaker 1>for floods across the Middle in the coming days. They

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<v Speaker 1>say the six people killed were in western Tennessee, Missouri,

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<v Speaker 1>and Indiana. But I mean at least one of these

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<v Speaker 1>tornadoes launched debris five miles above the ground in Arkansas

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<v Speaker 1>closer to home. Will you could have some thunderstorms today?

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<v Speaker 1>Mentioned Mark Chrisky is back over there at KTLA. Looks amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>My goodness, whoever does his freshening up should get an award.

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Krisky looks incredible. He looks the same way he

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<v Speaker 1>looked twenty years ago when I first moved to La.

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<v Speaker 1>Watching the KTLA morning news anyway, he said that by

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<v Speaker 1>noon today, So by now we could get some thunderstorms,

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<v Speaker 1>probably between noon and nine pm. That's the timetable twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five percent chance that thunderstorms are going to move into

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<v Speaker 1>the valleys or even downtown Los Angeles, so it could

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<v Speaker 1>get some rain today. Got some animal news for you,

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<v Speaker 1>Why not? Have you heard about the majestic whale made

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<v Speaker 1>its way into the waters of Long Beach's Rainbow Harbor

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<v Speaker 1>this morning. So a lot of people near Catalina Express

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<v Speaker 1>the dock there saw the massive whale loitering about ten

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<v Speaker 1>am near Golden Shore Drive and Shoreline village right across

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<v Speaker 1>from the Queen Mary still there. About an hour later,

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<v Speaker 1>they say it was a minky whale. Is that how

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<v Speaker 1>I say it? Or is it mink whale? But just gorgeous?

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's funny how when you see a whale like that

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<v Speaker 1>when you're not supposed to, it's always so great because

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<v Speaker 1>of all the money people spend to go on whale

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<v Speaker 1>watching trips, and they you don't always see the whales,

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<v Speaker 1>so when you do, just wow.

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<v Speaker 2>How lucky?

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<v Speaker 1>Have you heard about the tortoise and the Galapagos. This

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<v Speaker 1>tortoise has become the oldest known first time mother of

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<v Speaker 1>her species. She is ninety seven years old, ninety seven,

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<v Speaker 1>and she's having her first baby. One of my best

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<v Speaker 1>thought that sounds exhausting.

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<v Speaker 2>Ninety six.

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<v Speaker 1>How long do these things live, these tortoises.

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<v Speaker 2>They must live forever. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not doing the deep dive on that. Gary's not here,

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<v Speaker 1>but let me know. And then the latest shopping experience

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<v Speaker 1>is getting some attention today. It's in Lower Manhattan, fifty

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<v Speaker 1>four thousand square foot temple. Really is this department store?

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<v Speaker 1>It is a famed French department store. It's called print

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<v Speaker 1>Teps and its print Teps in New York could be

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<v Speaker 1>saying that wrong, and they say that this is different

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<v Speaker 1>and of note because it has turned its back on technology.

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<v Speaker 1>Minimal screens inside, no shopping app, no e commerce website.

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<v Speaker 1>They're trying, They're betting on the success of an old

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<v Speaker 1>fashioned face to face shopping experience to draw business. They said,

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<v Speaker 1>when they were conceptualizing the whole thing, screens were everywhere

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<v Speaker 1>and it didn't feel right.

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<v Speaker 2>They said.

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<v Speaker 1>The vibe we want here is people interacting with people.

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<v Speaker 1>We didn't want people looking at their screens. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>running counter to what you're seeing really everywhere else. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you've seen retailers invest in apps, sending alerts when shoppers enter.

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<v Speaker 2>The score store, QR codes. We've all seen all of this.

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<v Speaker 1>There are connected fitting rooms now with features like buttons

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<v Speaker 1>where you can press to request a different size.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd love that.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, if you ever noticed this, it's like

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<v Speaker 1>a weird goldilocks thing in a fitting room. Deb Broah,

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<v Speaker 1>enough you've noticed this that like the attendant is either

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<v Speaker 1>overly attendant or under attendant, Like it's either. How's it going,

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<v Speaker 1>do you need more sizes? And you're like, I just

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<v Speaker 1>got in here, it's all good. Or you're in there

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<v Speaker 1>for like twenty minutes and you need a different size

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<v Speaker 1>and you're just standing there naked, going should I put

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<v Speaker 1>my clothes on and go and get it?

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<v Speaker 2>You know that?

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<v Speaker 5>I think that makes me so it really pisses me off,

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<v Speaker 5>and I want to say to those people, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm going to talk to your manager because I.

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<v Speaker 2>Just feel like, what are you doing?

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<v Speaker 5>And then I see that they're on their phones or

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<v Speaker 5>they're chatting with each other, and.

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<v Speaker 2>That drives me crazy. I don't want to be bothered,

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<v Speaker 2>right right.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't want to be annoyed, right But I don't

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<v Speaker 5>want to be ignored.

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<v Speaker 2>I know.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's gotten more so like that where they just

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<v Speaker 1>ignore you once you get in there and you get

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<v Speaker 1>out and they're all just standing there, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're old.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's what well.

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<v Speaker 5>I also want to say, you're obviously not on commission, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, I don't imagine you doing either one

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<v Speaker 2>Would are you?

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<v Speaker 6>That?

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<v Speaker 2>I would never have profiled you to say I want

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<v Speaker 2>to talk to your manager or.

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<v Speaker 5>No, I haven't. I haven't but I think about it

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<v Speaker 5>all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>That's like pretty woman stuff. I bet you're not commission.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you're not operate on commission.

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<v Speaker 5>Do you know how many times I run through that

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<v Speaker 5>pretty woman yeah line in my head? I know, my god,

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<v Speaker 5>that's the best line ever I know. But but yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, I do get annoyed. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 5>be bothered where they're overly aggressive. But I really hate

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<v Speaker 5>when I'm ignored. If I need some help, don't I

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<v Speaker 5>don't really need a lot of help.

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<v Speaker 1>But come on, Deborah is the one that goes back

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<v Speaker 1>to the store with all the bags in her hand,

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<v Speaker 1>and she goes, I was in here earlier.

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<v Speaker 2>You refuse to help me. Big a mistake, big mistake. Huge.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's the best part of the movie. Is Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>do you love Robert so good? All right?

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<v Speaker 1>Coming up next? Oh my goodness, are we really doing this?

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<v Speaker 1>We're doing this. I tackled this story earlier about a

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<v Speaker 1>new course at you see Santa Barbara. It's about straight

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<v Speaker 1>relationships and oh the horror of being a straight person.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was making fun of it, and then I

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<v Speaker 1>got crap for being a straight person talking about the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that there's no horror in being a straight person

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<v Speaker 1>by my gay friends, and so they're coming in to

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<v Speaker 1>help me tackle the topic of the first of its

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<v Speaker 1>kind seminar you see, Santa Barbara about critical heterosexuality studies,

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<v Speaker 1>so we can have some counter arguments to this when

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<v Speaker 1>we return.

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<v Speaker 6>You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI

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<v Speaker 6>AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 1>I forgot to get to this double booked LA marathon

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<v Speaker 1>and the Oscars will be held on the same day

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<v Speaker 1>next year.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a little bit worried.

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<v Speaker 1>Not that I'm running a marathon, but I signed up

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<v Speaker 1>for a ten k on Saturday.

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<v Speaker 2>I did this like a month and a half ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I did dry January and I was like, I

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<v Speaker 1>can run now, and so I signed up thinking I

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<v Speaker 1>could run and I still can't. And so now I'm

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<v Speaker 1>probably going to be rolled in here on Monday if

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<v Speaker 1>I make it. But anyway, the Oscars and the marathon

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<v Speaker 1>are going to be on March fifteenth next year. What

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<v Speaker 1>could go wrong? I mean, the marathon's got to go

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<v Speaker 1>through Hollywood, right, what a mess?

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway? Who cares?

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<v Speaker 1>We were talking earlier an article I told Keana this

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<v Speaker 1>morning when I came in, I said, I started reading

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<v Speaker 1>this article about this new course at UCSB, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>about straight people. It's called Critical Heterosexuality Studies, and it

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<v Speaker 1>is taught by female USB's chair of Feminist Studies, who

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<v Speaker 1>is also a lesbian. And I said to Keana, like,

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<v Speaker 1>I started reading this article and then I was like, eh, no,

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<v Speaker 1>this is not interesting. But then I found myself reading

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<v Speaker 1>it for ten minutes and thought, well, if I have

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<v Speaker 1>enough interest in it to read it for ten minutes,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe other people do too.

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<v Speaker 2>And I thought it was.

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<v Speaker 1>Fascinating because this woman, sociologist Jane Ward, is a lesbian,

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<v Speaker 1>and she's talking about or two kids who not kids,

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<v Speaker 1>college students who have questions. Sarah is one of them.

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<v Speaker 1>She's a comparative literature major from Long Beach. She says,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel bad for some of my straight friends. They're like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, my boyfriend got me flowers for the

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<v Speaker 1>first time in two years. Anthony says, I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>this class will answer.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of like why are they like that.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a Global studies major and identifies as gay.

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<v Speaker 2>There is Cimron. She's a psychology major.

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<v Speaker 1>She describes herself as constantly confused about her sexuality, but

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<v Speaker 1>definitely not straight. She says, she has trouble imagining being

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<v Speaker 1>a pan without a man in the picture. What's that

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<v Speaker 1>all about, she wonders, And the sociologist who runs the course,

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<v Speaker 1>Jane Ward, says, let's try to answer all these questions

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<v Speaker 1>in the next few weeks. So I set out to

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<v Speaker 1>tackle this this morning because they make it sound like

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<v Speaker 1>it's so hard to be a straight woman. Here's the

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<v Speaker 1>come true. That it's really hard to be a straight woman.

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<v Speaker 1>Straight women's lives here's the quote, are very very hard.

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<v Speaker 1>And then Michael Munks came down the hall and made.

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<v Speaker 4>That's not true. Oh okay, I wasn't making fun of

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<v Speaker 4>you about this article. It was just in general.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I didn't have a a perspective from somebody who's

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean neither, right. Yeah, my mom's listening.

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, Pam, love your son. I really do. You are

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<v Speaker 1>producer Richie.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, what's up, guy? Why did you drag us both

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<v Speaker 4>in and just get it out in the open? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought like I was perplexed that there was a

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<v Speaker 3>What kind of different perspectives?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I am a straight person and you are not. Yeah, right,

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<v Speaker 1>different perspective. So you just haul in a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>gays and let's get from this is called I have

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<v Speaker 3>This is what you know.

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<v Speaker 4>What happens is like a straight woman, yeah, who knows

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<v Speaker 4>those two gay guys should meet because they would be perfect.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not true. That is not true.

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<v Speaker 4>That is the limited understanding of that straight women have,

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<v Speaker 1>Untrue. That is so untrue. But I was just having

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<v Speaker 1>the other day. I said, remember when we had that

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<v Speaker 1>Our class was maybe twenty five people. Nice Jewish girl

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<v Speaker 1>shouldn't have to speak for all Jewish people just in

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<v Speaker 1>front of a bunch of Catholic kids. Like what makes

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<v Speaker 1>her suddenly the Jewish spokesperson. That's not what I'm doing here, Michael.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. Did you wear a jumper to Catholic school?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm just picturing you now and the jumper listening

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, we had jumpers, and then towards the end

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<v Speaker 1>we could wear skirts or kaki shorts.

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<v Speaker 4>Same here. Yeah, we were in that transition era too.

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<v Speaker 4>We're the same age, so yeah, it changed. Luckily, we

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<v Speaker 2>Thank god. If I had to wear the jumper through

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<v Speaker 2>eighth grade, well.

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<v Speaker 3>I tried to wear a jumper and then I was

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think you would have killed it anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>So my takeaway from this, guys and your case in

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<v Speaker 1>point is I don't rely on my heterosexual husband to

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<v Speaker 1>be all the things for me. And that's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>her whole point is that she's expecting a straight relationship

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<v Speaker 1>to enrich these women completely. And the point was like,

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<v Speaker 7>Well, I've been seeing it for a while, so I

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<v Speaker 7>have zero idea. But honestly though, like I think it's right,

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<v Speaker 7>Like you shouldn't be expecting you for every second or

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<v Speaker 7>for every little thing, you know, just have fun with it,

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<v Speaker 4>I guess I don't understand the thesis of this class.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a class taught by a lesbian about straight people.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, she looks like Rosi o' donald.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I thought i'd take it a step further

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<v Speaker 1>because she's talking about you.

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<v Speaker 4>That was not nice, because you can't enroll in the

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<v Speaker 4>class you're taking, Like the adjunct faculty here at KFI,

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<v Speaker 4>who are going to get you?

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<v Speaker 1>If they're going to have a lesbian teach about straits

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<v Speaker 1>at Santa Barbara, I'm gonna get gay men to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about straight men and take it a step further.

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<v Speaker 4>I can say, Look, I was I was in a

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<v Speaker 4>traditional social fraternity in college, so I was surrounded by

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of straight guys. And I think that what

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<v Speaker 4>you would be surprised to find, perhaps if you talk

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<v Speaker 4>to faculty members at UCSP, is that there are a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of different kinds straight guys.

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<v Speaker 2>There are.

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<v Speaker 3>There are a lot of different straight guys.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the other problem. They're putting them all in one box.

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<v Speaker 4>This sounds like a class that would have me within

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<v Speaker 4>fifteen minutes jumping out the window.

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<v Speaker 1>Agree, we'll get into your suicide when we come back. No,

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<v Speaker 1>but I also I just wanted to to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the science. She did for this too is she went

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<v Speaker 1>to a new mom's group and then she also part

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<v Speaker 1>of the curriculum is a book that women wrote during

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<v Speaker 1>COVID when they were trapped with their straight husbands in

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<v Speaker 1>the home for a year. Like this, these are not

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<v Speaker 1>the pools that we that we speak of, or that

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<v Speaker 1>we should speak to to find the merits.

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<v Speaker 4>Of straight I'm so glad to be so far from

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<v Speaker 4>a college campus these days. I know, Oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 4>nothing makes me more crotchety than walking across a college campus.

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<v Speaker 4>I wish I had a cane. I don't walk with

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<v Speaker 4>the cane yet, but I can't wait to walk with

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<v Speaker 4>the cane because I'm gonna shake it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you're an old and that's why we have Ritchie

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<v Speaker 6>You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from kfi

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<v Speaker 1>going on. Deadly storm that we talked about moving through

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<v Speaker 1>of Indiana there. I don't even know what that's like.

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<v Speaker 1>That's like anti m stuff. It's conceptual for me. Vice

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<v Speaker 1>US ban. I think Amazon through their hat in the

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<v Speaker 1>ring this week as well, so we'll see what goes

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<v Speaker 1>on for the beloved TikTok. Here's the headline in the

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<v Speaker 1>cut dot com. If hetero relationships are so bad, why

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<v Speaker 1>do women go back for more? That is the headline,

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<v Speaker 1>like it's a choice. I guess it's the takeaway of

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<v Speaker 1>the article. And it's based off this course that you

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<v Speaker 1>see Santa Barbara. It's called Critical Heterosexuality Studies, and it

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<v Speaker 1>wonders why people are straight, and it brings up the

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<v Speaker 1>question that women or the idea that women could choose

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<v Speaker 1>one way or the other, and that things are really

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<v Speaker 1>hard for straight women because men, because men have not,

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<v Speaker 1>as she writes, gotten better.

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<v Speaker 2>I've brought in two gay men.

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<v Speaker 6>With me.

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<v Speaker 1>A couple straight men have wandered in and said, we

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<v Speaker 1>are what we are, which is my takeaway. You know

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<v Speaker 1>it is what it is. What are you looking for

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<v Speaker 1>in a straight man? Straight women? Are you expecting some

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<v Speaker 1>sort of unicorn? Are you expecting them to be everything

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<v Speaker 1>to you all at once?

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<v Speaker 2>Like the movie?

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<v Speaker 3>I see a lot of happy straight women out there I.

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<v Speaker 2>Do too, Like I didn't know I was living such.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I mean. Everybody's expectations are a little different.

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<v Speaker 6>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>Does he take care of the family, Is he a

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<v Speaker 3>loving spouse?

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<v Speaker 6>You know?

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<v Speaker 3>Is he tough or is he loving and soft?

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<v Speaker 1>You know?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean women want different things, right, This is very generalizes.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you guys think is the best thing about

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<v Speaker 1>straight men?

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<v Speaker 3>Hmm? Go ahead, Richie.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly. That's where I was.

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<v Speaker 2>Kinda say whatever you want. Gary's not here, okay, cool.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like, you know, you know, Okay, I don't.

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<v Speaker 4>Why don't I answer as someone who's been you know,

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<v Speaker 4>has always had close friendships with straight guys. I like

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<v Speaker 4>the way that they treat me. I think in the

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<v Speaker 4>late nineties early two thousands, the acceptance of just gay

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<v Speaker 4>people in general was kind of skyrocketing because of media

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<v Speaker 4>influences and that sort of thing, and it was kind

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<v Speaker 4>of a good time to come of age, and it

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<v Speaker 4>started with straight girls who were everything, you know, to

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<v Speaker 4>help gay guys kind of navigate life. So straight girls

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<v Speaker 4>have always been really important, and I think after a

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<v Speaker 4>few years of that, straight guys wanted in on the action,

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<v Speaker 4>like what is the allure of these gay friends? And

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<v Speaker 4>I got into a social fraternity, you know, I'm talkap epsilon, right.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean that was all guys, macho guys, and I

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<v Speaker 4>felt like they were willing to open up and you

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<v Speaker 4>learned a softer side of them. They wanted fashion tips,

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<v Speaker 4>they wanted to improve themselves, and so.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw Gus watch that show.

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<v Speaker 4>But I often preface this like, I'm not the gay friend,

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<v Speaker 4>you know what I mean, Like, I'm not I've never

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<v Speaker 4>been that guy. I'm not the girl's gay friend. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not the guy's gay friend. I don't want to tell

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<v Speaker 4>you I can help you put a sweater on, right,

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<v Speaker 4>But I don't want to talk about that sort of thing,

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<v Speaker 1>Like just be yourself with me. But you're from the

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<v Speaker 1>South to upper self. You're a man's man, gay man.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not, though, you know, I mean, I don't. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't say that to be like, oh look how masculine

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's not that I'm saying that. I just

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<v Speaker 3>I'm from the city, oh yeah, I've never been on

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<v Speaker 4>KENTUCKI but like we have you know, never mind, we

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<v Speaker 4>it's not but if you pass, if you pass me

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<v Speaker 4>in a grocery store, you might not know unless you're

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<v Speaker 4>in the owl with me long enough to see me.

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<v Speaker 3>Reach for something.

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<v Speaker 4>And then I'm kind of you know, you're seeing the wrist,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm holding something I'm looking at and then you're like, ahay, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Look at you. I think wife, two small children.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you would have been that way. Yeah, it could

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<v Speaker 3>have been.

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<v Speaker 2>That way, like you both read the paper on Sunday mornings.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, seventy years ago, it would have been that way.

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<v Speaker 4>Really yeah, I would have been a good dad and

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<v Speaker 4>a miserable, miserable man. But I would have played the part.

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<v Speaker 2>Why seven years seventy right?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, like where do we go back to the

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<v Speaker 3>fifties or something?

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<v Speaker 2>It was like, was there a change seven years ago? Richie?

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<v Speaker 2>What do you like about straight man?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so since she hated on straight men for an

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<v Speaker 1>entire college course, we're going to celebrate straight men.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I have a lot of friends.

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<v Speaker 7>I have gay, straight, all types of friends, and growing

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<v Speaker 7>up here in Los Angeles, it wasn't out of the

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<v Speaker 7>norm to you know, be mixing the group. For me,

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<v Speaker 7>I grew up with four older straight brothers, so growing

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<v Speaker 7>up with me, they always kind of like tough me out.

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<v Speaker 3>A little bit. And I feel like I'm pretty myself.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I'm build something m.

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<v Speaker 7>Probably not now okay, all right going maybe like some

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<v Speaker 7>you know, legos or something growing up, but no, like

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<v Speaker 7>with straight guys, like I feel like, you know, my

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<v Speaker 7>relationships with my friends are pretty chill. Like there's sometimes where,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, I interact with someone at a bar or

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<v Speaker 7>through a close friend and they'll be like, hey, you're

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<v Speaker 7>cool for a gay guy, just don't hit on me.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm like, bruh, you're not even might tired. First of all,

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<v Speaker 7>it's so calm down, sit down, So there's a little

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<v Speaker 7>bit of everything, to be honest, but for me personally,

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<v Speaker 7>like I'm chill.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm wondering if it's a men thing that

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<v Speaker 1>they have, not gay or straight, but just a men

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<v Speaker 1>problem that they have in this college course in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of and I don't know this because I've never lived

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<v Speaker 1>with a gay man. But in terms of they talk

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<v Speaker 1>in the article about things that are done around the house, communication, camaraderie.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if that means, you know, when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to where do you want to have dinner and

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<v Speaker 1>the dude always goes, well, I don't know where do

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<v Speaker 1>you want to go to dinner? That's not a gay

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<v Speaker 1>straight thing, that's just a man thing, right.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say, so monks, I mean, I don't mean

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<v Speaker 2>to loop y'all.

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<v Speaker 4>In no, I think that's sort of what I was

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<v Speaker 4>saying before, is that men are men. Beside from like

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<v Speaker 4>our sexual attraction to whatever it is at the at

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<v Speaker 4>the same time, we're diverse.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, we are easy.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, we're food, sex, sports, you know, or activity

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<v Speaker 4>recreation some here. Yeah, you know, like we're a very

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<v Speaker 4>simple straight access. But if there was one quote you

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<v Speaker 4>said that I you read, I'm sorry from from this

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<v Speaker 4>that that talked about somebody who's gonna be I guess

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<v Speaker 4>a part of this class or no. Danny as psychology

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<v Speaker 4>and brain sciences major from Dallas, who is bisexual, confessed

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<v Speaker 4>that she'd observed her self behave in ways that disturbed

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<v Speaker 4>her when she dated men. She was more submissive, more

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<v Speaker 4>self conscious, inattentive to her own needs and needs, and

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<v Speaker 4>wanted to understand why. Okay, that part's fair, I suppose

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<v Speaker 4>if you wanted to talk to somebody about that. I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know if it's worthy of college credit. But the

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<v Speaker 4>next one, Julia, who cheekly revealed that she's actually straight

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<v Speaker 4>but queer enough to be here. So she thinks a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of straight relationships create that kind of insecurity.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, what does that mean? That's why I can't

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<v Speaker 3>make mail.

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<v Speaker 2>Jus, what does it even mean? Girlfriends?

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<v Speaker 4>You know, it used to be people were gay and

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<v Speaker 4>people were straight, and now there's this weirdness to it

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<v Speaker 4>all old again.

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<v Speaker 3>I know.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what I mean why I can't get my head

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<v Speaker 4>around this, Because if this straight woman identifies as queer,

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<v Speaker 4>how can I identify as anything that she is? What

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<v Speaker 4>do we share in common in that respect? That's why

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<v Speaker 4>I'm jumping out of the window of this class.

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<v Speaker 2>I have question.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not jumping out of any windows yet till we

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<v Speaker 1>come back.

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<v Speaker 6>You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI

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<v Speaker 6>AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 1>We are continuing our conversation about this course.

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<v Speaker 2>You see SB you know it's funny.

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<v Speaker 1>Once in a while, these college courses will come up,

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<v Speaker 1>like I think Taylor Swift was the latest. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>whole curriculum devoted to her and her career and all

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<v Speaker 1>of that. And now there is a curriculum about straight people.

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<v Speaker 1>You see SB. One of my buddies, Scott texting me. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm embarrassed to be a U see Santa Barbara graduate.

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<v Speaker 1>But they say that this is a topic being straight

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<v Speaker 1>that has been largely unexamined, that it's the wallpaper against

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<v Speaker 1>which other exhibits are hung. It just is maybe because

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<v Speaker 1>it's just not as fascinating. But I mean, every tendency

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<v Speaker 1>has been around forever, right, Yeah, everybody's kind of deal,

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<v Speaker 1>they say, though, I think part of it is that

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<v Speaker 1>there's been this conversation about women moving away from men

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<v Speaker 1>recently because of the need to label everything the way

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<v Speaker 1>that this reporter Jessica Bennett writes in the cut. She

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<v Speaker 1>says that enough young American women are fed up with

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<v Speaker 1>current realities when it comes to straight guys to make

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<v Speaker 1>a sizable trend of their own, declaring themselves boy sober

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<v Speaker 1>or voluntarily celibate, proclaiming themselves part of the four B

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<v Speaker 1>movement this is from South Korea rejects all sexual and

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<v Speaker 1>romantic relationships with men, to which I say, doesn't everybody

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<v Speaker 1>take a break from dating or guys or girls or whatever?

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<v Speaker 8>At one point one hundred percent, Like if I wasn't

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<v Speaker 8>married and I was single, I would be like, I'm

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<v Speaker 8>just gonna like, I don't have that tendency to want

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<v Speaker 8>to go date and search and go hook up with

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<v Speaker 8>guys Like it's I'm lazy.

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to sit in bed and eat McDonald's.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, my single girlfriends, they'll go through a phase of

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<v Speaker 1>being on the apps and trying to meet dudes and

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<v Speaker 1>then be tired of it when then just like ignore

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<v Speaker 1>it for six months or whatever.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm going through a dry spell right now, but it's

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<v Speaker 7>only because like I'm just so busy, so I'm trying

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<v Speaker 7>to balance it all.

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<v Speaker 1>Hundred and five to two one was the number again,

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<v Speaker 1>five to two oh one, KFI, we'll get Richie out

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<v Speaker 1>of his dry spell.

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<v Speaker 2>Call me or John. John's coming up in a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>Johnald Field calls for you, just kidding, don't call but

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<v Speaker 1>you're going through a dry spell?

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<v Speaker 7>Why just because it's I'm just so busy right now. Oh,

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<v Speaker 7>like if I show you my dating now, So.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a real thing. When guys say I'm just really busy,

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<v Speaker 2>they are.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm extremely busy.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, there's no time, but you know there's going to

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<v Speaker 7>be a point where I'm going to have to make

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<v Speaker 7>some time.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you looking for somebody?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, m M.

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<v Speaker 1>It's almost summer, Shannon, I know it's okay. You can

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<v Speaker 1>call me Sharon clear. People anticipate the ours and Farren. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like it's a Tuesday for me to be called Sharon.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, summer is approaching. But are you gonna have kids? No?

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<v Speaker 3>I have a lot of nieces and I think I'm solid.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, me too, same same. All right.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, John and Ken are coming up. I think that

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<v Speaker 1>we have done some real work here today and Defense

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<v Speaker 1>of straight Men.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh with just.

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<v Speaker 3>The John Show?

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<v Speaker 2>What did I say, John and Kent?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, listen, Old Diehard. I've been texting with Ken all

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<v Speaker 1>week long, so he's on your mind, on my mind.

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<v Speaker 1>John Cobets show coming up next tomorrow. We have a

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<v Speaker 1>big day on the show. We have more guests to

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<v Speaker 1>break down how the tariffs are affecting Wall Street.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll see if this selloff continues.

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<v Speaker 1>And also the nine News Nuggets You need to know

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<v Speaker 1>why you shouldn't send naked videos to coworkers, very hard hitting.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see you tomorrow. Stay dry out there.

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<v Speaker 3>You've been listening to The Gary and Shannon Show.

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<v Speaker 4>You can always hear us live on KFI AM six

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<v Speaker 4>forty nine am to one pm every Monday through Friday,

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