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Speaker 2: What Else is going on?
Speaker 3: Time for What's Happening?
Speaker 2: Wow?
Speaker 1: Stories we are following that seemed to be making the
Speaker 1: rounds today. Unfortunately, a tragedy out of Oxnard by way
Speaker 1: of the Valley. A teenager reported missing thirteen year old
Speaker 1: boy under the San Fernando Vality over the weekend. His
Speaker 1: body has been discovered. The FBI has been called in.
Speaker 1: La Police Roberty Homicide led the investigation. They received information
Speaker 1: that his body may have been in a wooded area
Speaker 1: in Oxnard, and that is in fact where they found
Speaker 1: the body. You've got to believe they have an idea
Speaker 1: of who is responsible for this. Otherwise we would know
Speaker 1: that they were searching for someone who stole a thirteen
Speaker 1: year old boy and killed him if they didn't have
Speaker 1: anybody in mind. This boy, Oscar Hernandez, a student at
Speaker 1: Sun Valley Magnet School. Family says Oscar took a train
Speaker 1: to Lancaster over the weekend to visit a friend, but
Speaker 1: never came home. Reported missing on Sunday. Family said they
Speaker 1: knew there was something wrong when they tried to call
Speaker 1: Oscar and the acquaintance would answer, saying that the teenager
Speaker 1: could not come to the phone, then couldn't remember when
Speaker 1: he dropped Oscar back off at the train station to
Speaker 1: go home. So apparently we're talking about an acquaintance now,
Speaker 1: see I readily or friend. But now acquaintance sounds like
Speaker 1: an adult person, doesn't it. And maybe that this acquaintance
Speaker 1: slash adult person maybe the person that they are looking
Speaker 1: at for the murder. The family has been talking to NBC.
Speaker 1: Obviously no words, really not really talking. This is a
Speaker 1: little boy thirteen years old, love soccer and with nice
Speaker 1: kid talk to anybody, his sister says Alexandra. But wow, unfortunate,
Speaker 1: awful story, awful ending to that story of the missing
Speaker 1: boy out of the valley. Storms have killed six people
Speaker 1: in the South and Midwest. Forecasters say catastrophic rains floods
Speaker 1: is what we're looking at. Tornadoes, violent winds, flattening homes,
Speaker 1: ripping apart buildings from Oklahoma to Indiana. And this is
Speaker 1: just the first round of storms that are are going
Speaker 1: to be setting record setting rains and life threatening flash
Speaker 1: for floods across the Middle in the coming days. They
Speaker 1: say the six people killed were in western Tennessee, Missouri,
Speaker 1: and Indiana. But I mean at least one of these
Speaker 1: tornadoes launched debris five miles above the ground in Arkansas
Speaker 1: closer to home. Will you could have some thunderstorms today?
Speaker 1: Mentioned Mark Chrisky is back over there at KTLA. Looks amazing.
Speaker 1: My goodness, whoever does his freshening up should get an award.
Speaker 1: Mark Krisky looks incredible. He looks the same way he
Speaker 1: looked twenty years ago when I first moved to La.
Speaker 1: Watching the KTLA morning news anyway, he said that by
Speaker 1: noon today, So by now we could get some thunderstorms,
Speaker 1: probably between noon and nine pm. That's the timetable twenty
Speaker 1: five percent chance that thunderstorms are going to move into
Speaker 1: the valleys or even downtown Los Angeles, so it could
Speaker 1: get some rain today. Got some animal news for you,
Speaker 1: Why not? Have you heard about the majestic whale made
Speaker 1: its way into the waters of Long Beach's Rainbow Harbor
Speaker 1: this morning. So a lot of people near Catalina Express
Speaker 1: the dock there saw the massive whale loitering about ten
Speaker 1: am near Golden Shore Drive and Shoreline village right across
Speaker 1: from the Queen Mary still there. About an hour later,
Speaker 1: they say it was a minky whale. Is that how
Speaker 1: I say it? Or is it mink whale? But just gorgeous?
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: It's funny how when you see a whale like that
Speaker 1: when you're not supposed to, it's always so great because
Speaker 1: of all the money people spend to go on whale
Speaker 1: watching trips, and they you don't always see the whales,
Speaker 1: so when you do, just wow.
Speaker 2: How lucky?
Speaker 1: Have you heard about the tortoise and the Galapagos. This
Speaker 1: tortoise has become the oldest known first time mother of
Speaker 1: her species. She is ninety seven years old, ninety seven,
Speaker 1: and she's having her first baby. One of my best
Speaker 1: friends had her first son at forty two, and I
Speaker 1: thought that sounds exhausting.
Speaker 2: Ninety six.
Speaker 1: How long do these things live, these tortoises.
Speaker 2: They must live forever. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm not doing the deep dive on that. Gary's not here,
Speaker 1: but let me know. And then the latest shopping experience
Speaker 1: is getting some attention today. It's in Lower Manhattan, fifty
Speaker 1: four thousand square foot temple. Really is this department store?
Speaker 1: It is a famed French department store. It's called print
Speaker 1: Teps and its print Teps in New York could be
Speaker 1: saying that wrong, and they say that this is different
Speaker 1: and of note because it has turned its back on technology.
Speaker 1: Minimal screens inside, no shopping app, no e commerce website.
Speaker 1: They're trying, They're betting on the success of an old
Speaker 1: fashioned face to face shopping experience to draw business. They said,
Speaker 1: when they were conceptualizing the whole thing, screens were everywhere
Speaker 1: and it didn't feel right.
Speaker 2: They said.
Speaker 1: The vibe we want here is people interacting with people.
Speaker 1: We didn't want people looking at their screens. So it's
Speaker 1: running counter to what you're seeing really everywhere else. You know,
Speaker 1: you've seen retailers invest in apps, sending alerts when shoppers enter.
Speaker 2: The score store, QR codes. We've all seen all of this.
Speaker 1: There are connected fitting rooms now with features like buttons
Speaker 1: where you can press to request a different size.
Speaker 2: I'd love that.
Speaker 1: By the way, if you ever noticed this, it's like
Speaker 1: a weird goldilocks thing in a fitting room. Deb Broah,
Speaker 1: enough you've noticed this that like the attendant is either
Speaker 1: overly attendant or under attendant, Like it's either. How's it going,
Speaker 1: do you need more sizes? And you're like, I just
Speaker 1: got in here, it's all good. Or you're in there
Speaker 1: for like twenty minutes and you need a different size
Speaker 1: and you're just standing there naked, going should I put
Speaker 1: my clothes on and go and get it?
Speaker 2: You know that?
Speaker 5: I think that makes me so it really pisses me off,
Speaker 5: and I want to say to those people, you know,
Speaker 5: I'm going to talk to your manager because I.
Speaker 2: Just feel like, what are you doing?
Speaker 5: And then I see that they're on their phones or
Speaker 5: they're chatting with each other, and.
Speaker 2: That drives me crazy. I don't want to be bothered,
Speaker 2: right right.
Speaker 5: I don't want to be annoyed, right But I don't
Speaker 5: want to be ignored.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 1: And it's gotten more so like that where they just
Speaker 1: ignore you once you get in there and you get
Speaker 1: out and they're all just standing there, you know, and
Speaker 1: we're old.
Speaker 2: I think that's what well.
Speaker 5: I also want to say, you're obviously not on commission, right.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I don't imagine you doing either one
Speaker 1: of those things?
Speaker 2: Would are you?
Speaker 6: That?
Speaker 2: I would never have profiled you to say I want
Speaker 2: to talk to your manager or.
Speaker 5: No, I haven't. I haven't but I think about it
Speaker 5: all the time.
Speaker 1: That's like pretty woman stuff. I bet you're not commission.
Speaker 1: I hope you're not operate on commission.
Speaker 5: Do you know how many times I run through that
Speaker 5: pretty woman yeah line in my head? I know, my god,
Speaker 5: that's the best line ever I know. But but yeah,
Speaker 5: I mean, I do get annoyed. I don't want to
Speaker 5: be bothered where they're overly aggressive. But I really hate
Speaker 5: when I'm ignored. If I need some help, don't I
Speaker 5: don't really need a lot of help.
Speaker 1: But come on, Deborah is the one that goes back
Speaker 1: to the store with all the bags in her hand,
Speaker 1: and she goes, I was in here earlier.
Speaker 2: You refuse to help me. Big a mistake, big mistake. Huge.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's the best part of the movie. Is Yeah,
Speaker 2: do you love Robert so good? All right?
Speaker 1: Coming up next? Oh my goodness, are we really doing this?
Speaker 1: We're doing this. I tackled this story earlier about a
Speaker 1: new course at you see Santa Barbara. It's about straight
Speaker 1: relationships and oh the horror of being a straight person.
Speaker 1: And I was making fun of it, and then I
Speaker 1: got crap for being a straight person talking about the
Speaker 1: fact that there's no horror in being a straight person
Speaker 1: by my gay friends, and so they're coming in to
Speaker 1: help me tackle the topic of the first of its
Speaker 1: kind seminar you see, Santa Barbara about critical heterosexuality studies,
Speaker 1: so we can have some counter arguments to this when
Speaker 1: we return.
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Speaker 1: I forgot to get to this double booked LA marathon
Speaker 1: and the Oscars will be held on the same day
Speaker 1: next year.
Speaker 2: I'm a little bit worried.
Speaker 1: Not that I'm running a marathon, but I signed up
Speaker 1: for a ten k on Saturday.
Speaker 2: I did this like a month and a half ago.
Speaker 1: Because I did dry January and I was like, I
Speaker 1: can run now, and so I signed up thinking I
Speaker 1: could run and I still can't. And so now I'm
Speaker 1: probably going to be rolled in here on Monday if
Speaker 1: I make it. But anyway, the Oscars and the marathon
Speaker 1: are going to be on March fifteenth next year. What
Speaker 1: could go wrong? I mean, the marathon's got to go
Speaker 1: through Hollywood, right, what a mess?
Speaker 2: Anyway? Who cares?
Speaker 1: We were talking earlier an article I told Keana this
Speaker 1: morning when I came in, I said, I started reading
Speaker 1: this article about this new course at UCSB, and it's
Speaker 1: about straight people. It's called Critical Heterosexuality Studies, and it
Speaker 1: is taught by female USB's chair of Feminist Studies, who
Speaker 1: is also a lesbian. And I said to Keana, like,
Speaker 1: I started reading this article and then I was like, eh, no,
Speaker 1: this is not interesting. But then I found myself reading
Speaker 1: it for ten minutes and thought, well, if I have
Speaker 1: enough interest in it to read it for ten minutes,
Speaker 1: maybe other people do too.
Speaker 2: And I thought it was.
Speaker 1: Fascinating because this woman, sociologist Jane Ward, is a lesbian,
Speaker 1: and she's talking about or two kids who not kids,
Speaker 1: college students who have questions. Sarah is one of them.
Speaker 1: She's a comparative literature major from Long Beach. She says,
Speaker 1: I feel bad for some of my straight friends. They're like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, my boyfriend got me flowers for the
Speaker 1: first time in two years. Anthony says, I feel like
Speaker 1: this class will answer.
Speaker 2: A lot of like why are they like that.
Speaker 1: He's a Global studies major and identifies as gay.
Speaker 2: There is Cimron. She's a psychology major.
Speaker 1: She describes herself as constantly confused about her sexuality, but
Speaker 1: definitely not straight. She says, she has trouble imagining being
Speaker 1: a pan without a man in the picture. What's that
Speaker 1: all about, she wonders, And the sociologist who runs the course,
Speaker 1: Jane Ward, says, let's try to answer all these questions
Speaker 1: in the next few weeks. So I set out to
Speaker 1: tackle this this morning because they make it sound like
Speaker 1: it's so hard to be a straight woman. Here's the
Speaker 1: quote from the woman who runs the course. She says,
Speaker 1: there was a hope that men were getting better with
Speaker 1: each generation, that as time went on they'd be more
Speaker 1: committed to gender justice or equity, and that did not
Speaker 1: come true. That it's really hard to be a straight woman.
Speaker 1: Straight women's lives here's the quote, are very very hard.
Speaker 1: And then Michael Munks came down the hall and made.
Speaker 2: Fun of me.
Speaker 4: That's not true. Oh okay, I wasn't making fun of
Speaker 4: you about this article. It was just in general.
Speaker 1: Well, I didn't have a a perspective from somebody who's
Speaker 1: not straight.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean neither, right. Yeah, my mom's listening.
Speaker 2: Your mom. What's her name?
Speaker 3: Pam?
Speaker 2: Pam?
Speaker 1: Hi, Pam, love your son. I really do. You are
Speaker 1: a bright, bright sunshine spot in this building. And you
Speaker 1: have been from go I'm Ritchie is here as well,
Speaker 1: producer Richie.
Speaker 4: Hey, what's up, guy? Why did you drag us both
Speaker 4: in and just get it out in the open? I mean,
Speaker 4: I want to be clear here.
Speaker 1: I thought like I was perplexed that there was a
Speaker 1: lesbian teaching a seminar on straight studies. I thought that
Speaker 1: I should have different perspectives as well.
Speaker 3: What kind of different perspectives?
Speaker 1: Well, I am a straight person and you are not. Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: different perspective. So you just haul in a couple of
Speaker 1: gays and let's get from this is called I have
Speaker 1: gay friends.
Speaker 3: This is what you know.
Speaker 4: What happens is like a straight woman, yeah, who knows
Speaker 4: a gay guy and then happens to have interacted with
Speaker 4: some other gay guy out in the wilderness and thinks
Speaker 4: those two gay guys should meet because they would be perfect.
Speaker 2: It's not true. That is not true.
Speaker 4: That is the limited understanding of that straight women have,
Speaker 4: that is of gay men.
Speaker 1: Untrue. That is so untrue. But I was just having
Speaker 1: this conversation with one of my girlfriends. So I went
Speaker 1: to grammar school with We both went to sant Isabella's
Speaker 1: obviously Catholic school, and there was a single Jewish girl
Speaker 1: in our class, and we were just texting about this
Speaker 1: the other day. I said, remember when we had that
Speaker 1: nice Jewish girl join the class of in small, small school.
Speaker 1: Our class was maybe twenty five people. Nice Jewish girl
Speaker 1: joins the class in sixth grade and the teacher had
Speaker 1: her get up and basically do like a presentation about
Speaker 1: Jewish people, And like, how unfair is that she's she
Speaker 1: shouldn't have to speak for all Jewish people just in
Speaker 1: front of a bunch of Catholic kids. Like what makes
Speaker 1: her suddenly the Jewish spokesperson. That's not what I'm doing here, Michael.
Speaker 3: I don't know. Did you wear a jumper to Catholic school?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm just picturing you now and the jumper listening
Speaker 4: to the Jewish girl talk about Judaeus.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, we had jumpers, and then towards the end
Speaker 1: we could wear skirts or kaki shorts.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Same here. Yeah, we were in that transition era too.
Speaker 4: We're the same age, so yeah, it changed. Luckily, we
Speaker 4: were lucky.
Speaker 2: Thank god. If I had to wear the jumper through
Speaker 2: eighth grade, well.
Speaker 3: I tried to wear a jumper and then I was
Speaker 3: asked to leave.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you would have killed it anyway.
Speaker 1: So my takeaway from this, guys and your case in
Speaker 1: point is I don't rely on my heterosexual husband to
Speaker 1: be all the things for me. And that's kind of
Speaker 1: her whole point is that she's expecting a straight relationship
Speaker 1: to enrich these women completely. And the point was like,
Speaker 1: no relationship gay or straight or whatever fills all of
Speaker 1: those boxes.
Speaker 7: Well, I've been seeing it for a while, so I
Speaker 7: have zero idea. But honestly though, like I think it's right,
Speaker 7: Like you shouldn't be expecting you for every second or
Speaker 7: for every little thing, you know, just have fun with it,
Speaker 7: you know.
Speaker 4: I guess I don't understand the thesis of this class.
Speaker 4: It's a class taught by a lesbian about straight people.
Speaker 3: Yes, she looks like Rosi o' donald.
Speaker 1: You know, I thought i'd take it a step further
Speaker 1: because she's talking about you.
Speaker 4: That was not nice, because you can't enroll in the
Speaker 4: class you're taking, Like the adjunct faculty here at KFI,
Speaker 4: who are going to get you?
Speaker 1: If they're going to have a lesbian teach about straits
Speaker 1: at Santa Barbara, I'm gonna get gay men to talk
Speaker 1: about straight men and take it a step further.
Speaker 4: I can say, Look, I was I was in a
Speaker 4: traditional social fraternity in college, so I was surrounded by
Speaker 4: a lot of straight guys. And I think that what
Speaker 4: you would be surprised to find, perhaps if you talk
Speaker 4: to faculty members at UCSP, is that there are a
Speaker 4: lot of different kinds straight guys.
Speaker 2: There are.
Speaker 3: There are a lot of different straight guys.
Speaker 1: That's the other problem. They're putting them all in one box.
Speaker 4: This sounds like a class that would have me within
Speaker 4: fifteen minutes jumping out the window.
Speaker 1: Agree, we'll get into your suicide when we come back. No,
Speaker 1: but I also I just wanted to to talk about
Speaker 1: the science. She did for this too is she went
Speaker 1: to a new mom's group and then she also part
Speaker 1: of the curriculum is a book that women wrote during
Speaker 1: COVID when they were trapped with their straight husbands in
Speaker 1: the home for a year. Like this, these are not
Speaker 1: the pools that we that we speak of, or that
Speaker 1: we should speak to to find the merits.
Speaker 4: Of straight I'm so glad to be so far from
Speaker 4: a college campus these days. I know, Oh my gosh,
Speaker 4: nothing makes me more crotchety than walking across a college campus.
Speaker 4: I wish I had a cane. I don't walk with
Speaker 4: the cane yet, but I can't wait to walk with
Speaker 4: the cane because I'm gonna shake it.
Speaker 1: Well, you're an old and that's why we have Ritchie
Speaker 1: here for the conversation as well.
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Speaker 1: on for the beloved TikTok. Here's the headline in the
Speaker 1: cut dot com. If hetero relationships are so bad, why
Speaker 1: do women go back for more? That is the headline,
Speaker 1: like it's a choice. I guess it's the takeaway of
Speaker 1: the article. And it's based off this course that you
Speaker 1: see Santa Barbara. It's called Critical Heterosexuality Studies, and it
Speaker 1: wonders why people are straight, and it brings up the
Speaker 1: question that women or the idea that women could choose
Speaker 1: one way or the other, and that things are really
Speaker 1: hard for straight women because men, because men have not,
Speaker 1: as she writes, gotten better.
Speaker 2: I've brought in two gay men.
Speaker 6: With me.
Speaker 1: A couple straight men have wandered in and said, we
Speaker 1: are what we are, which is my takeaway. You know
Speaker 1: it is what it is. What are you looking for
Speaker 1: in a straight man? Straight women? Are you expecting some
Speaker 1: sort of unicorn? Are you expecting them to be everything
Speaker 1: to you all at once?
Speaker 2: Like the movie?
Speaker 3: I see a lot of happy straight women out there I.
Speaker 2: Do too, Like I didn't know I was living such.
Speaker 3: That's what I mean. Everybody's expectations are a little different.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 3: Does he take care of the family, Is he a
Speaker 3: loving spouse?
Speaker 6: You know?
Speaker 3: Is he tough or is he loving and soft?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 3: I mean women want different things, right, This is very generalizes.
Speaker 1: What do you guys think is the best thing about
Speaker 1: straight men?
Speaker 3: Hmm? Go ahead, Richie.
Speaker 7: I mean I don't know.
Speaker 3: Exactly. That's where I was.
Speaker 2: Kinda say whatever you want. Gary's not here, okay, cool.
Speaker 3: I feel like, you know, you know, Okay, I don't.
Speaker 4: Why don't I answer as someone who's been you know,
Speaker 4: has always had close friendships with straight guys. I like
Speaker 4: the way that they treat me. I think in the
Speaker 4: late nineties early two thousands, the acceptance of just gay
Speaker 4: people in general was kind of skyrocketing because of media
Speaker 4: influences and that sort of thing, and it was kind
Speaker 4: of a good time to come of age, and it
Speaker 4: started with straight girls who were everything, you know, to
Speaker 4: help gay guys kind of navigate life. So straight girls
Speaker 4: have always been really important, and I think after a
Speaker 4: few years of that, straight guys wanted in on the action,
Speaker 4: like what is the allure of these gay friends? And
Speaker 4: I got into a social fraternity, you know, I'm talkap epsilon, right.
Speaker 4: I mean that was all guys, macho guys, and I
Speaker 4: felt like they were willing to open up and you
Speaker 4: learned a softer side of them. They wanted fashion tips,
Speaker 4: they wanted to improve themselves, and so.
Speaker 2: I saw Gus watch that show.
Speaker 4: But I often preface this like, I'm not the gay friend,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like, I'm not I've never
Speaker 4: been that guy. I'm not the girl's gay friend. I'm
Speaker 4: not the guy's gay friend. I don't want to tell
Speaker 4: you I can help you put a sweater on, right,
Speaker 4: But I don't want to talk about that sort of thing,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 1: Like just be yourself with me. But you're from the
Speaker 1: South to upper self. You're a man's man, gay man.
Speaker 3: I'm not, though, you know, I mean, I don't. I
Speaker 3: don't say that to be like, oh look how masculine
Speaker 3: I am.
Speaker 2: You know, it's not that I'm saying that. I just
Speaker 2: I think you could build something you think like what
Speaker 2: I don't know, like a barn. Yeah, do you think
Speaker 2: you grow up with, you know, farms.
Speaker 3: I'm from the city, oh yeah, I've never been on
Speaker 3: a horse. I mean, I'm from.
Speaker 4: KENTUCKI but like we have you know, never mind, we
Speaker 4: have a lot of people there. I like to say this,
Speaker 4: like some people can clock me from a distance. Right,
Speaker 4: it's not but if you pass, if you pass me
Speaker 4: in a grocery store, you might not know unless you're
Speaker 4: in the owl with me long enough to see me.
Speaker 3: Reach for something.
Speaker 4: And then I'm kind of you know, you're seeing the wrist,
Speaker 4: I'm holding something I'm looking at and then you're like, ahay, I.
Speaker 2: Look at you. I think wife, two small children.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you would have been that way. Yeah, it could
Speaker 3: have been.
Speaker 2: That way, like you both read the paper on Sunday mornings.
Speaker 3: Hey, seventy years ago, it would have been that way.
Speaker 4: Really yeah, I would have been a good dad and
Speaker 4: a miserable, miserable man. But I would have played the part.
Speaker 2: Why seven years seventy right?
Speaker 3: You know, like where do we go back to the
Speaker 3: fifties or something?
Speaker 2: It was like, was there a change seven years ago? Richie?
Speaker 2: What do you like about straight man?
Speaker 1: Okay, so since she hated on straight men for an
Speaker 1: entire college course, we're going to celebrate straight men.
Speaker 3: You know, I have a lot of friends.
Speaker 7: I have gay, straight, all types of friends, and growing
Speaker 7: up here in Los Angeles, it wasn't out of the
Speaker 7: norm to you know, be mixing the group. For me,
Speaker 7: I grew up with four older straight brothers, so growing
Speaker 7: up with me, they always kind of like tough me out.
Speaker 3: A little bit. And I feel like I'm pretty myself.
Speaker 2: Like I'm build something m.
Speaker 7: Probably not now okay, all right going maybe like some
Speaker 7: you know, legos or something growing up, but no, like
Speaker 7: with straight guys, like I feel like, you know, my
Speaker 7: relationships with my friends are pretty chill. Like there's sometimes where,
Speaker 7: you know, I interact with someone at a bar or
Speaker 7: through a close friend and they'll be like, hey, you're
Speaker 7: cool for a gay guy, just don't hit on me.
Speaker 7: I'm like, bruh, you're not even might tired. First of all,
Speaker 7: it's so calm down, sit down, So there's a little
Speaker 7: bit of everything, to be honest, but for me personally,
Speaker 7: like I'm chill.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm wondering if it's a men thing that
Speaker 1: they have, not gay or straight, but just a men
Speaker 1: problem that they have in this college course in terms
Speaker 1: of and I don't know this because I've never lived
Speaker 1: with a gay man. But in terms of they talk
Speaker 1: in the article about things that are done around the house, communication, camaraderie.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that means, you know, when it
Speaker 1: comes to where do you want to have dinner and
Speaker 1: the dude always goes, well, I don't know where do
Speaker 1: you want to go to dinner? That's not a gay
Speaker 1: straight thing, that's just a man thing, right.
Speaker 2: I would say, so monks, I mean, I don't mean
Speaker 2: to loop y'all.
Speaker 4: In no, I think that's sort of what I was
Speaker 4: saying before, is that men are men. Beside from like
Speaker 4: our sexual attraction to whatever it is at the at
Speaker 4: the same time, we're diverse.
Speaker 3: But you know, we are easy.
Speaker 4: You know, we're food, sex, sports, you know, or activity
Speaker 4: recreation some here. Yeah, you know, like we're a very
Speaker 4: simple straight access. But if there was one quote you
Speaker 4: said that I you read, I'm sorry from from this
Speaker 4: that that talked about somebody who's gonna be I guess
Speaker 4: a part of this class or no. Danny as psychology
Speaker 4: and brain sciences major from Dallas, who is bisexual, confessed
Speaker 4: that she'd observed her self behave in ways that disturbed
Speaker 4: her when she dated men. She was more submissive, more
Speaker 4: self conscious, inattentive to her own needs and needs, and
Speaker 4: wanted to understand why. Okay, that part's fair, I suppose
Speaker 4: if you wanted to talk to somebody about that. I
Speaker 4: don't know if it's worthy of college credit. But the
Speaker 4: next one, Julia, who cheekly revealed that she's actually straight
Speaker 4: but queer enough to be here. So she thinks a
Speaker 4: lot of straight relationships create that kind of insecurity.
Speaker 3: You know, what does that mean? That's why I can't
Speaker 3: make mail.
Speaker 2: Jus, what does it even mean? Girlfriends?
Speaker 4: You know, it used to be people were gay and
Speaker 4: people were straight, and now there's this weirdness to it
Speaker 4: all old again.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 4: That's what I mean why I can't get my head
Speaker 4: around this, Because if this straight woman identifies as queer,
Speaker 4: how can I identify as anything that she is? What
Speaker 4: do we share in common in that respect? That's why
Speaker 4: I'm jumping out of the window of this class.
Speaker 2: I have question.
Speaker 1: You're not jumping out of any windows yet till we
Speaker 1: come back.
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Speaker 1: We are continuing our conversation about this course.
Speaker 2: You see SB you know it's funny.
Speaker 1: Once in a while, these college courses will come up,
Speaker 1: like I think Taylor Swift was the latest. There's a
Speaker 1: whole curriculum devoted to her and her career and all
Speaker 1: of that. And now there is a curriculum about straight people.
Speaker 1: You see SB. One of my buddies, Scott texting me. Now,
Speaker 1: I'm embarrassed to be a U see Santa Barbara graduate.
Speaker 1: But they say that this is a topic being straight
Speaker 1: that has been largely unexamined, that it's the wallpaper against
Speaker 1: which other exhibits are hung. It just is maybe because
Speaker 1: it's just not as fascinating. But I mean, every tendency
Speaker 1: has been around forever, right, Yeah, everybody's kind of deal,
Speaker 1: they say, though, I think part of it is that
Speaker 1: there's been this conversation about women moving away from men
Speaker 1: recently because of the need to label everything the way
Speaker 1: that this reporter Jessica Bennett writes in the cut. She
Speaker 1: says that enough young American women are fed up with
Speaker 1: current realities when it comes to straight guys to make
Speaker 1: a sizable trend of their own, declaring themselves boy sober
Speaker 1: or voluntarily celibate, proclaiming themselves part of the four B
Speaker 1: movement this is from South Korea rejects all sexual and
Speaker 1: romantic relationships with men, to which I say, doesn't everybody
Speaker 1: take a break from dating or guys or girls or whatever?
Speaker 8: At one point one hundred percent, Like if I wasn't
Speaker 8: married and I was single, I would be like, I'm
Speaker 8: just gonna like, I don't have that tendency to want
Speaker 8: to go date and search and go hook up with
Speaker 8: guys Like it's I'm lazy.
Speaker 2: I just want to sit in bed and eat McDonald's.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my single girlfriends, they'll go through a phase of
Speaker 1: being on the apps and trying to meet dudes and
Speaker 1: then be tired of it when then just like ignore
Speaker 1: it for six months or whatever.
Speaker 7: I'm going through a dry spell right now, but it's
Speaker 7: only because like I'm just so busy, so I'm trying
Speaker 7: to balance it all.
Speaker 1: Hundred and five to two one was the number again,
Speaker 1: five to two oh one, KFI, we'll get Richie out
Speaker 1: of his dry spell.
Speaker 2: Call me or John. John's coming up in a couple
Speaker 2: of minutes.
Speaker 1: Johnald Field calls for you, just kidding, don't call but
Speaker 1: you're going through a dry spell?
Speaker 7: Why just because it's I'm just so busy right now. Oh,
Speaker 7: like if I show you my dating now, So.
Speaker 2: That's a real thing. When guys say I'm just really busy,
Speaker 2: they are.
Speaker 3: I'm extremely busy.
Speaker 7: Yeah, there's no time, but you know there's going to
Speaker 7: be a point where I'm going to have to make
Speaker 7: some time.
Speaker 2: Are you looking for somebody?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: No, no, m M.
Speaker 1: It's almost summer, Shannon, I know it's okay. You can
Speaker 1: call me Sharon clear. People anticipate the ours and Farren. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like it's a Tuesday for me to be called Sharon.
Speaker 1: So yeah, summer is approaching. But are you gonna have kids? No?
Speaker 3: I have a lot of nieces and I think I'm solid.
Speaker 2: Yeah, me too, same same. All right.
Speaker 1: Well, John and Ken are coming up. I think that
Speaker 1: we have done some real work here today and Defense
Speaker 1: of straight Men.
Speaker 2: Uh with just.
Speaker 3: The John Show?
Speaker 2: What did I say, John and Kent?
Speaker 1: Well, listen, Old Diehard. I've been texting with Ken all
Speaker 1: week long, so he's on your mind, on my mind.
Speaker 1: John Cobets show coming up next tomorrow. We have a
Speaker 1: big day on the show. We have more guests to
Speaker 1: break down how the tariffs are affecting Wall Street.
Speaker 2: We'll see if this selloff continues.
Speaker 1: And also the nine News Nuggets You need to know
Speaker 1: why you shouldn't send naked videos to coworkers, very hard hitting.
Speaker 1: We'll see you tomorrow. Stay dry out there.
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