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It's like 55 00:03:35.960 --> 00:03:41.240 a snake plisk in Escape from La second movie, because 56 00:03:41.280 --> 00:03:46.479 I'm I'm not in LA but close to it, So 57 00:03:46.520 --> 00:03:50.280 we're gonna go with that one. I escaped and I 58 00:03:50.319 --> 00:03:55.319 feel good about it, real good. This past weekend was nice. 59 00:03:55.400 --> 00:03:58.759 I went up to the High High Sierras, the Eastern 60 00:03:58.919 --> 00:04:05.000 Sierra area, a little north of Bishop, California. Nice area 61 00:04:05.560 --> 00:04:09.120 was in the mountains, camping a place called June Lake. 62 00:04:09.400 --> 00:04:12.120 It was really good. Had the family there. The kids 63 00:04:12.159 --> 00:04:17.079 really enjoyed it. I did got it was good. It's 64 00:04:17.120 --> 00:04:18.800 good to be able to do that. So I was 65 00:04:19.000 --> 00:04:23.040 really really fun time that I of course I wish 66 00:04:23.120 --> 00:04:26.680 I could have stayed there longer, camped a couple of nights, 67 00:04:26.680 --> 00:04:29.360 but I would like to camp a full week for sure. 68 00:04:29.399 --> 00:04:32.480 There's so many different interesting things up that way that 69 00:04:32.600 --> 00:04:35.839 I want to see that I haven't yet, things to 70 00:04:35.920 --> 00:04:40.279 see and do. So hopefully I can go back there 71 00:04:40.360 --> 00:04:42.480 or spend a bit more time in the future. But 72 00:04:42.800 --> 00:04:50.360 always good to do something like that. Yes, beautiful trips 73 00:04:50.399 --> 00:04:53.000 out to nature. I hope maybe all of you have 74 00:04:53.040 --> 00:04:56.800 been able to do something like that this summer or 75 00:04:56.920 --> 00:05:00.560 anytime they'll get out and get away from it all. 76 00:05:01.759 --> 00:05:05.399 It's not everybody needs to do that, And again I wish, 77 00:05:05.519 --> 00:05:07.519 I wish we all had more time to be doing 78 00:05:07.759 --> 00:05:15.079 stuff like that, but we don't. Coming back to work 79 00:05:15.480 --> 00:05:20.920 after that trip was was was tough because, uh, it 80 00:05:21.000 --> 00:05:25.560 hit me hard being at work after being in such 81 00:05:25.600 --> 00:05:29.680 a natural, beautiful place like that, being in such an 82 00:05:29.759 --> 00:05:36.920 unnatural and I'm not gonna say abominable, but just completely 83 00:05:37.000 --> 00:05:41.360 unnatural environs that is my workplace, which is you know 84 00:05:41.439 --> 00:05:46.560 the case for most people, workplace is an artificial nightmare 85 00:05:47.959 --> 00:05:51.319 that's been inflicted upon all of us, and just being 86 00:05:51.399 --> 00:05:55.959 in there was was I had to stave off minor depression. 87 00:05:57.519 --> 00:05:59.519 But I'd say like the bulk of my day the 88 00:05:59.560 --> 00:06:02.319 first day back was just as like h just being 89 00:06:02.319 --> 00:06:09.240 in there and just the just being in that space 90 00:06:09.360 --> 00:06:14.639 after being in such a beautiful space prior to that, 91 00:06:14.720 --> 00:06:17.240 I was feeling it. But I'm back in the swing 92 00:06:17.279 --> 00:06:21.199 of things. I'm back doing the old grind, the old routine, 93 00:06:22.040 --> 00:06:26.279 back into the routine. It's wonderful. Everybody likes a routine. 94 00:06:27.079 --> 00:06:29.319 Everybody likes to do the same thing all the time. 95 00:06:29.800 --> 00:06:33.560 We've made a real boring world. We've created an artificial 96 00:06:34.240 --> 00:06:38.959 and boring, mundane world where we do a bunch of 97 00:06:38.959 --> 00:06:45.480 stuff that yeah, I mean, it's very amazing to me. 98 00:06:45.560 --> 00:06:49.800 I was just thinking this, It's amazing how we've built 99 00:06:49.879 --> 00:06:58.879 such a boring world that is simultaneously not boring but 100 00:06:59.040 --> 00:07:08.439 actually fascinating in how and how much we have done this. 101 00:07:08.439 --> 00:07:11.279 This world. We have built the world of man, not 102 00:07:11.360 --> 00:07:14.360 the world of nature, not that we're not within that, 103 00:07:14.600 --> 00:07:20.600 still we are, but we've built this world for ourselves, 104 00:07:20.800 --> 00:07:25.720 within this natural world that we all came from, and 105 00:07:25.759 --> 00:07:32.800 we have built it up to great heights it is 106 00:07:33.240 --> 00:07:39.639 very boring, very mundane, very dull, and uninspiring for the 107 00:07:39.639 --> 00:07:43.480 most part, for great portions of our lives, we're just 108 00:07:44.160 --> 00:07:48.120 bored out of our minds and in misery that we're 109 00:07:48.160 --> 00:07:52.079 seemingly doing nothing. But at the same time we are 110 00:07:52.199 --> 00:07:57.480 we are doing quite a bit, and in doing a 111 00:07:57.560 --> 00:08:04.720 small amount or efforts are multiplied thanks due to technique. 112 00:08:04.920 --> 00:08:09.959 Technology and technique is such that we are able to 113 00:08:10.040 --> 00:08:14.120 do more but expending less energy. I mean just using 114 00:08:14.120 --> 00:08:17.680 a machine to do something is I mean this whole 115 00:08:17.680 --> 00:08:22.480 point of using a machine. We all use machines really 116 00:08:23.800 --> 00:08:28.439 in our day to day lives to forge onward and 117 00:08:28.560 --> 00:08:35.039 upward and build this project up bigger and bigger. Where 118 00:08:35.200 --> 00:08:38.240 we stop. We don't know. We don't have an endpoint. 119 00:08:38.279 --> 00:08:42.679 We don't have a true end goal, and say sometimes 120 00:08:42.720 --> 00:08:46.879 somebody comes around and acts like we do, but we don't. 121 00:08:47.679 --> 00:08:50.759 We're just trying to get to this point where we 122 00:08:50.840 --> 00:08:53.559 solve all of our problems, most of which at this 123 00:08:53.679 --> 00:08:58.360 point are ones that we've created because we've been so 124 00:08:58.519 --> 00:09:02.240 busy building up this artificial is starting to have some 125 00:09:02.480 --> 00:09:08.679 adverse side effects, and I feel like it was easier 126 00:09:08.879 --> 00:09:12.519 to dismiss these sorts of things as just like, well, 127 00:09:12.799 --> 00:09:18.240 that's the cost of doing business. It was easier, not 128 00:09:18.360 --> 00:09:20.679 even that long ago, to be able to do that, 129 00:09:20.799 --> 00:09:27.240 be like, well, yes, of course we all see, I 130 00:09:27.240 --> 00:09:30.240 mean just the fact that we make all of these 131 00:09:30.360 --> 00:09:38.080 artificial things. Pollution is one problem, right, well, I think 132 00:09:38.080 --> 00:09:39.919 you have to be out of your mind to not 133 00:09:40.120 --> 00:09:46.039 understand the extent to which pollution and environmental degradation has 134 00:09:46.120 --> 00:09:53.240 gotten into is just it's a it might it's I mean, 135 00:09:53.279 --> 00:09:58.440 it's the problem you could you could say it is 136 00:09:58.480 --> 00:10:01.360 like the number one problem. If it's not the number 137 00:10:01.399 --> 00:10:06.000 one problem, it's way up there on the to do list, 138 00:10:06.279 --> 00:10:08.519 which is a list that we're not actually doing because 139 00:10:08.519 --> 00:10:12.320 we're incapable of doing it. We can't address all of 140 00:10:12.360 --> 00:10:18.080 these things because they're endemic to this whole system we've created, 141 00:10:18.960 --> 00:10:21.480 and we're just hoping and praying that we can push 142 00:10:21.679 --> 00:10:26.120 technique far enough that will come up with ways to 143 00:10:26.200 --> 00:10:33.320 address all of these pollutants we've created, ninety percent of 144 00:10:33.360 --> 00:10:36.159 which or ninety to one hundred percent of which are 145 00:10:36.200 --> 00:10:41.320 all inadvertent. They're just byproducts of doing everything we're doing 146 00:10:41.720 --> 00:10:47.360 of industry. Nobody wanted this to happen, but because we 147 00:10:47.480 --> 00:10:51.360 have done what we've done, they're there now. We're just 148 00:10:51.559 --> 00:10:55.879 hoping that there will be some technique to solve this 149 00:10:56.000 --> 00:11:01.799 issue that will be able to clean up. And I 150 00:11:01.840 --> 00:11:05.559 don't know, it doesn't seem like the priority for coming 151 00:11:05.600 --> 00:11:08.840 up with techniques to clean everything seems to be too 152 00:11:08.879 --> 00:11:15.360 high on the list. It's taken a backseat bare minimum. 153 00:11:15.440 --> 00:11:18.000 And also just the idea that we can fix the 154 00:11:18.080 --> 00:11:21.399 problem with the thing that created the problem to begin 155 00:11:21.480 --> 00:11:25.840 with seems a bit crazy to me. And I don't 156 00:11:25.840 --> 00:11:28.360 want to be a pessimist about everything, but just I 157 00:11:28.399 --> 00:11:30.080 don't It seems how are we going to do it? 158 00:11:30.080 --> 00:11:36.919 It seems unlikely. I don't know. And yes, it just 159 00:11:36.919 --> 00:11:44.519 seems more and more that you can't deny these things anymore. 160 00:11:45.360 --> 00:11:47.399 It used to be, it used to be we were 161 00:11:47.399 --> 00:11:53.679 able to, but now we're not. We're we're not able 162 00:11:53.840 --> 00:11:58.600 to deny the insanity of what we're all taking part in, 163 00:12:00.919 --> 00:12:05.320 which is kind of a good thing that we are 164 00:12:06.159 --> 00:12:12.200 maybe finally facing the truth possibly, But is that what 165 00:12:12.240 --> 00:12:20.759 we're even doing. I don't know. It's debatable. It's wacky, 166 00:12:21.200 --> 00:12:31.000 it's wacky, it's wild, it's unnatural, but here we are, 167 00:12:31.840 --> 00:12:35.320 Here we are. It's just kind of nice to realize 168 00:12:35.320 --> 00:12:42.600 that we can't just sit here in disgusting vanity and 169 00:12:43.320 --> 00:12:46.440 pride and say, boy, we've done a great job. I mean, 170 00:12:47.279 --> 00:12:49.559 fewer and fewer people are doing that now, which I 171 00:12:49.600 --> 00:12:54.519 see is a good thing, because can we not be 172 00:12:54.639 --> 00:13:00.960 realistic about what's going on? Does that not have value? 173 00:13:01.120 --> 00:13:04.320 And I think surprisingly that the answer is yes, it 174 00:13:04.360 --> 00:13:07.000 does have value, And more and more people are realizing that. 175 00:13:07.200 --> 00:13:11.519 So we have that going for us. That's one thing. 176 00:13:13.840 --> 00:13:21.559 So that's something to take heart in. I suppose. See 177 00:13:21.639 --> 00:13:26.080 here I'm read from Phase Shifter and Tim Chilly dot 178 00:13:26.080 --> 00:13:30.799 com chat room. Here is so serious thing? Oh well, 179 00:13:30.840 --> 00:13:35.320 first always says it's a condition called PVD post vacation depression. 180 00:13:35.360 --> 00:13:38.399 I know it. Well, yeah, it's real. Goodness, gracious, I 181 00:13:38.480 --> 00:13:41.159 was dealing with that hard that first day, and I 182 00:13:41.200 --> 00:13:43.960 think I staved it off as much as as possible. 183 00:13:45.039 --> 00:13:46.919 But yeah, that was crazy at first. Stay back. And 184 00:13:46.960 --> 00:13:50.639 then he also says the ecology issues are now hidden 185 00:13:50.720 --> 00:13:54.960 in climate change or climate crisis. Just buy some carbon 186 00:13:55.080 --> 00:14:00.639 credits and shut up. Yeah, I mean, if that as 187 00:14:00.679 --> 00:14:04.320 a solution is actually like floated as a way to 188 00:14:04.360 --> 00:14:07.840 do anything, that's going to be a I mean, that's 189 00:14:07.960 --> 00:14:13.720 ridiculous carbon credit is going to do a thing. I mean, 190 00:14:13.799 --> 00:14:17.000 and the biggest perpetrators are not about to do anything, 191 00:14:17.200 --> 00:14:20.840 like the big oil companies and all that. And it's 192 00:14:20.840 --> 00:14:23.840 a real catch twenty two situation we're in because you 193 00:14:23.960 --> 00:14:29.240 can actually argue the fact that the use of oil 194 00:14:29.440 --> 00:14:35.080 gives us our modern world inconveniences that we have. I'm 195 00:14:35.080 --> 00:14:39.200 not going to deny that, but you also have to 196 00:14:39.279 --> 00:14:45.200 realize that it's come with with the burden to the 197 00:14:45.240 --> 00:14:51.919 planet that's caused. And the company is making massive profits 198 00:14:52.360 --> 00:14:54.759 off of the whole thing, know this, and they don't care, 199 00:14:54.799 --> 00:14:56.759 and they're not about to clean up they're own mess. 200 00:15:01.519 --> 00:15:09.360 So yeah, what do you do? I don't know. I 201 00:15:09.519 --> 00:15:13.080 do not know what to do. I don't have answers. 202 00:15:14.360 --> 00:15:17.720 I just know that we seem to be careening down 203 00:15:17.720 --> 00:15:25.639 the highway ever faster, not stopping. Maybe more people are 204 00:15:25.679 --> 00:15:29.720 starting to care, which is good, But I just hope 205 00:15:29.759 --> 00:15:33.399 that we don't get a lot of people acting after 206 00:15:33.559 --> 00:15:42.200 desperation because no real alternatives or good solutions are forthcoming, 207 00:15:42.919 --> 00:15:47.679 they haven't been yet, and what we just hold out 208 00:15:47.720 --> 00:15:50.120 for the hope that we'll be able to clean things up. 209 00:15:52.639 --> 00:15:56.000 I mean, I'm not saying it's impossible, but it just 210 00:15:56.000 --> 00:16:00.440 seems unlikely. Perhaps I am a pessimist. I don't know, 211 00:16:01.080 --> 00:16:05.840 I don't want to be. If there are solutions, I 212 00:16:05.879 --> 00:16:14.519 think we should go for them and try them. I mean, 213 00:16:14.559 --> 00:16:17.799 what is there to lose at this point? Doesn't seem 214 00:16:17.919 --> 00:16:20.960 like a whole lot. Doesn't seem like the average person's 215 00:16:21.000 --> 00:16:23.879 get a whole lot out of this deal, are they? 216 00:16:25.000 --> 00:16:30.960 That's another insanity of our modern world that set ever 217 00:16:31.120 --> 00:16:34.799 widening equity gap right between the top and the bottom, 218 00:16:36.159 --> 00:16:40.320 the top just going further and further, according it, more 219 00:16:40.360 --> 00:16:44.399 and more wealth, and the bottom getting ever more crowded 220 00:16:44.399 --> 00:16:49.320 when more people there because there's no middle anymore, and 221 00:16:50.360 --> 00:16:54.519 just less and less, getting less and less, doing more 222 00:16:54.720 --> 00:17:00.440 work for less and less all the time. I don't know. 223 00:17:00.440 --> 00:17:06.240 It just seems like a short fire away for issues, 224 00:17:07.240 --> 00:17:09.559 and I think it goes a long way in explaining 225 00:17:09.599 --> 00:17:12.640 a lot of the frustrations we see and all of 226 00:17:12.640 --> 00:17:16.359 the political turmoil is really based off of this situation. 227 00:17:17.799 --> 00:17:22.799 You've got everybody fed up with a bad situation that 228 00:17:23.440 --> 00:17:26.920 they're demanding some kind of answers and change, and that's 229 00:17:26.960 --> 00:17:31.200 why they'll grasp onto anything. That's why Donald Trump is 230 00:17:31.240 --> 00:17:34.519 popular because he pretends like he is a solution, that 231 00:17:34.599 --> 00:17:38.720 he has solutions, that he's the guy for the downtrodden, 232 00:17:41.240 --> 00:17:44.319 and people believe it. And I'm not going to sit 233 00:17:44.359 --> 00:17:48.599 here and judge people for believing a lot of bs. 234 00:17:48.640 --> 00:17:53.640 We all believe nonsense at some point, So you know, 235 00:17:58.000 --> 00:18:05.880 it's not anybody's fault for watching onto false solutions. There's 236 00:18:05.920 --> 00:18:08.960 so many of them, and don't we all aren't we 237 00:18:09.000 --> 00:18:12.319 all just holding out for one that's not a fraud? 238 00:18:13.240 --> 00:18:16.519 Isn't that what we all want? Something that's not a farce, 239 00:18:16.680 --> 00:18:21.160 not a fraud, not a con, not some cult to join, 240 00:18:21.880 --> 00:18:29.519 not a pyramid scheme, not some get rich quick campaign 241 00:18:29.599 --> 00:18:34.240 where we desperately hope it's true and then we know 242 00:18:34.319 --> 00:18:36.359 the whole time that's not, but we buy into it 243 00:18:36.440 --> 00:18:41.079 out of desperation because there has to be a better way. 244 00:18:41.240 --> 00:18:47.200 There has to be. Does anybody else get mad at 245 00:18:47.240 --> 00:18:50.680 themselves for just feeling like, how can we be this 246 00:18:52.319 --> 00:18:56.039 non creative? How can we be this dull? How can 247 00:18:56.079 --> 00:19:01.519 we be this backward and un able to find some 248 00:19:01.599 --> 00:19:05.880 sort of way to do something better? I know I'm 249 00:19:05.880 --> 00:19:12.119 not happy with myself over that, not at all. I 250 00:19:12.839 --> 00:19:23.000 I how did it come to this, it's ridiculous. There's again, 251 00:19:23.119 --> 00:19:27.559 there is a better way. We have to figure it out. 252 00:19:30.400 --> 00:19:33.000 I don't know what it is. I'm the last person 253 00:19:33.039 --> 00:19:38.680 that should be you should be asking, certainly advice on 254 00:19:38.839 --> 00:19:44.480 how to get ahead or what to do, or ways 255 00:19:44.519 --> 00:19:52.599 to get out of the mess that we're in. No, 256 00:19:52.759 --> 00:19:54.960 I don't know. I don't know how to do that. 257 00:19:56.599 --> 00:20:00.640 Lots of people seem more than willing to tell you 258 00:20:01.880 --> 00:20:04.400 answers to that. But as I make a point on 259 00:20:04.440 --> 00:20:07.400 the show, I would just put a word of caution 260 00:20:07.720 --> 00:20:11.960 out when you're shopping around for those sorts of folks, 261 00:20:12.000 --> 00:20:14.440 because you're going to be disappointed more often than not 262 00:20:14.599 --> 00:20:23.839 by their wares, by their so called solutions, by their products. 263 00:20:25.200 --> 00:20:30.079 So that's disheartening too, isn't it When you believe in 264 00:20:30.200 --> 00:20:33.640 something or somebody and then they just turn out to 265 00:20:33.680 --> 00:20:41.200 be just another pile of garbage, just garbage hawking garbage, 266 00:20:42.279 --> 00:20:46.759 just another refuse site, and there's more pollution. That's just 267 00:20:47.359 --> 00:20:50.240 let's work harder and harder to make more and more trash, 268 00:20:51.079 --> 00:20:55.880 more and more things that exists seemingly solely for the 269 00:20:55.920 --> 00:21:01.519 purpose of being trash. I mean, have the incentive to 270 00:21:01.599 --> 00:21:04.960 sell things that break because you know, then you sell 271 00:21:05.000 --> 00:21:07.759 more of them. The plan to obsolescence concept is real. 272 00:21:09.200 --> 00:21:13.200 So if you can figure out a way to market 273 00:21:13.359 --> 00:21:19.119 garbage to people, then you can be a success. But 274 00:21:19.359 --> 00:21:22.880 you know, what does that even mean? Is the philosophical question, 275 00:21:22.960 --> 00:21:28.319 which we don't have time for philosophy because we're all 276 00:21:28.359 --> 00:21:33.119 just trying to survive. Perhaps in selling garbage to people, 277 00:21:33.240 --> 00:21:36.359 you did find a get rich quick scheme, So I 278 00:21:36.440 --> 00:21:40.720 suppose congratulations in that regard that you actually found a 279 00:21:40.759 --> 00:21:46.720 way ahead so that you're not dying of starvation anymore. 280 00:21:47.039 --> 00:21:51.640 So that aspect of what you've done is good. The 281 00:21:51.680 --> 00:21:55.039 fact that you've created more and more waste and garbage 282 00:21:55.039 --> 00:21:58.240 and pollution for the for us to destroy the earth 283 00:21:58.319 --> 00:22:03.279 further and were already have, well that's bad, But I 284 00:22:03.279 --> 00:22:05.319 guess I won't judge you for doing it. We all 285 00:22:05.359 --> 00:22:07.720 do it to one extent or another. So I'm not 286 00:22:07.839 --> 00:22:12.559 here gonna play like a orally superior to you because 287 00:22:12.920 --> 00:22:21.680 I'm not. Let's see here, what else is on my 288 00:22:21.759 --> 00:22:31.400 old mind that much? Really? Yeah, I you know, I 289 00:22:31.440 --> 00:22:39.359 don't know. Just check out my twitter feed. I guess 290 00:22:39.759 --> 00:22:44.079 let's see what's uh I've found. I might on a 291 00:22:44.119 --> 00:22:47.920 positive note, I might almost be figuring out how to 292 00:22:48.079 --> 00:22:54.640 use this app. I've figured out that responding and posting 293 00:22:54.680 --> 00:22:59.079 comments to even you have to think about the comment. 294 00:22:59.119 --> 00:23:02.440 You just have to make silly comment. There's a video 295 00:23:02.519 --> 00:23:05.440 of Trump talking about how he was gonna like make 296 00:23:05.480 --> 00:23:07.960 the economy better and how he was good under him, 297 00:23:08.079 --> 00:23:10.799 and he's talking about drilling, and he was talking about 298 00:23:10.799 --> 00:23:13.599 the price of bacon, and then he was talking about whatever, 299 00:23:13.720 --> 00:23:17.119 you know, stupid stuff like that, And I made the 300 00:23:17.160 --> 00:23:21.079 comment drilling for bacon. The boy people seem to like 301 00:23:21.119 --> 00:23:24.599 that one. So I guess that's all you gotta do 302 00:23:24.640 --> 00:23:26.160 on here. So I guess I got to just post 303 00:23:26.160 --> 00:23:28.680 more responses. I guess I got to put more time 304 00:23:28.720 --> 00:23:34.319 into being on Twitter and posting replies like drilling for bacon. 305 00:23:35.440 --> 00:23:39.359 That seems Yes, that's the kind of poignant material that works, Chuck. 306 00:23:39.319 --> 00:23:42.240 That's that's the way to punch up, down and sideways 307 00:23:42.240 --> 00:23:42.880 at the same time. 308 00:23:43.079 --> 00:23:43.279 Right. 309 00:23:44.680 --> 00:23:49.359 So, So you're not excited for Kamala Waltz No? 310 00:23:49.880 --> 00:23:50.039 Uh? 311 00:23:51.720 --> 00:23:54.440 I mean, I mean, you're from California, she's your she's 312 00:23:54.480 --> 00:23:54.920 your homie. 313 00:23:55.039 --> 00:24:01.240 Yeah, I'm personally I'm not excited. No, I mean, I 314 00:24:01.319 --> 00:24:05.519 will say about the presidential election. I will say that 315 00:24:05.599 --> 00:24:10.240 I believe the Democrats are they have the advantage now 316 00:24:10.519 --> 00:24:15.119 at present, that they seem to be holding the advantage 317 00:24:15.240 --> 00:24:22.680 at present. What gives you that idea? Seriously, Well, it's 318 00:24:22.680 --> 00:24:25.680 this simple thing is going into this election. What was 319 00:24:25.720 --> 00:24:30.599 everybody saying about it? Oh? God, it's Biden and Trump, 320 00:24:30.680 --> 00:24:33.559 these two old guys that we hate. It's the same 321 00:24:33.640 --> 00:24:36.359 thing that we had before, and it's come right back again. 322 00:24:36.440 --> 00:24:39.759 We're forced to make a choice the same too, and 323 00:24:39.799 --> 00:24:44.279 then one of them is taken away Biden and replaced, yes, 324 00:24:44.440 --> 00:24:46.599 with his vice president. So I mean, what's the difference. 325 00:24:46.640 --> 00:24:52.039 But I mean it it's something different, and Trump is 326 00:24:52.079 --> 00:24:54.839 still Trump, the old guy that nobody likes. It's like, 327 00:24:54.880 --> 00:24:58.640 oh okay, finally something different, and it's like okay, Harris, Okay. 328 00:24:58.960 --> 00:25:02.160 So just that alone, I think they have the advantage. 329 00:25:02.200 --> 00:25:05.759 There is that oh thank god, this thing changed to 330 00:25:06.079 --> 00:25:12.240 something else. So I think they have that confirm. 331 00:25:11.359 --> 00:25:13.319 See that's sort of like, look, you took away my 332 00:25:13.440 --> 00:25:15.960 dog crap sandwich and you gave me a cat crap sandwich. 333 00:25:16.000 --> 00:25:18.960 You know, I mean what I like cats better. I mean, 334 00:25:19.000 --> 00:25:22.000 that's where we're at the way I see it. 335 00:25:22.079 --> 00:25:24.279 Yeah, but some people are excited. 336 00:25:24.519 --> 00:25:28.160 And you know what's funny is how about the endurance 337 00:25:28.160 --> 00:25:31.200 of individuals and the ideas, Because that's the funny thing 338 00:25:31.200 --> 00:25:34.319 I'm hearing in all what you're talking about tonight is 339 00:25:34.359 --> 00:25:37.440 that a lot of things don't endure. People don't stay 340 00:25:37.680 --> 00:25:40.359 on topic, people don't stay on task, and that's why 341 00:25:40.440 --> 00:25:43.920 nothing ever gets done. Oh, the environment sucks. Look, the 342 00:25:43.920 --> 00:25:46.160 air is terrible. Let's do something, let's do and then 343 00:25:46.200 --> 00:25:49.319 it stops. You know what I'm saying, It's. 344 00:25:49.119 --> 00:25:50.720 Always that issue. 345 00:25:50.880 --> 00:25:55.559 What about people's short attention spans, And they're short spans 346 00:25:55.599 --> 00:25:59.920 to attention when it comes to an issue, it's never there. 347 00:26:00.240 --> 00:26:03.000 So here's the funny part. It's only August. And no, 348 00:26:03.079 --> 00:26:05.559 we've never had a presidential candidate slip out of the 349 00:26:05.680 --> 00:26:07.880 race and a new one slip in this late. 350 00:26:09.200 --> 00:26:11.759 So it's different. Yes, it's different, but is it really? 351 00:26:12.519 --> 00:26:15.279 Are you not still just dealing with basically the same 352 00:26:15.359 --> 00:26:19.240 topics and the same loyalists on one side of the 353 00:26:19.279 --> 00:26:20.119 equation for sure? 354 00:26:21.799 --> 00:26:22.000 Right? 355 00:26:23.000 --> 00:26:27.920 And oh, Joe Rogan says that he he endorses RFK Junior, 356 00:26:28.039 --> 00:26:31.680 So yes, yes, wild card and what do you think? 357 00:26:32.480 --> 00:26:34.640 Yeah, well, I was looking at the RFK Junior thing 358 00:26:34.680 --> 00:26:38.400 today too, which is interesting because yeah, Joe Rogan uh 359 00:26:39.000 --> 00:26:44.160 uh gave him his uh he said he supports him, 360 00:26:44.640 --> 00:26:47.680 and then almost instantly after that, r F there's talk 361 00:26:47.759 --> 00:26:49.880 that RFK Junior is gonna drop out of the race 362 00:26:50.480 --> 00:26:55.519 and say that he supports Donald Trump and that you know, 363 00:26:55.599 --> 00:26:58.000 his supporters should vote for Donald Trump, which is very 364 00:26:58.039 --> 00:27:01.960 interesting that the two things happen at the same time, 365 00:27:03.440 --> 00:27:07.079 and so, you know, it's just it's a good way 366 00:27:07.319 --> 00:27:09.160 for I don't know what's going on exactly, but it's 367 00:27:09.160 --> 00:27:10.759 a good way for Joe Rogan and go, hey, look, 368 00:27:10.960 --> 00:27:12.720 I'm not told you to vote for Trump. I'm telling 369 00:27:12.759 --> 00:27:15.759 you to vote for you know, the alternative alternative guy 370 00:27:16.000 --> 00:27:18.599 RFK Junior, which just turns into a vote for Trump 371 00:27:18.720 --> 00:27:21.720 under this new Oh well, sorry, I got to drop 372 00:27:21.759 --> 00:27:25.400 out and get vote for Trump. So it's another weird 373 00:27:25.440 --> 00:27:28.039 way that Joe Rogan kind of wiggles around things and 374 00:27:28.119 --> 00:27:30.680 doesn't really he doesn't have to believe a damn thing. 375 00:27:31.319 --> 00:27:33.759 He can just sit there and promote all these stupid, 376 00:27:33.799 --> 00:27:39.039 like far right wing ideologies and then pretend that he's not. 377 00:27:40.319 --> 00:27:42.960 He's a depth at doing that. He's like the best 378 00:27:43.000 --> 00:27:45.200 at that. He's like, oh, I'm just some girl talking 379 00:27:45.279 --> 00:27:51.319 about sasquatch and sometimes to talk about politics. Yeah, that's 380 00:27:51.400 --> 00:27:54.039 like his whole thing is like a guy talking about 381 00:27:54.119 --> 00:27:57.640 sasquatch and yeah, I'll talk about whine about the woke 382 00:27:57.680 --> 00:28:01.079 agenda like everybody else for and then he gets to 383 00:28:01.119 --> 00:28:05.200 pretend like he's not political. I don't know. I'm another 384 00:28:05.240 --> 00:28:10.359 thing to be annoyed at. Is that King of the 385 00:28:10.359 --> 00:28:13.279 podcast though? King of the podcast? Right, Well, yeah, I 386 00:28:13.319 --> 00:28:16.400 mean he can have that. He is. It is undisputed. 387 00:28:16.440 --> 00:28:19.319 I'm not going to deny that he is. That he's 388 00:28:19.599 --> 00:28:25.599 created a brand, he knows what he's doing. He's made 389 00:28:25.599 --> 00:28:30.160 it an actual business, which is impressive. He was early 390 00:28:30.400 --> 00:28:33.440 into the medium, so he's been around a while, so 391 00:28:33.480 --> 00:28:35.519 you got to give respect and just that he had 392 00:28:35.559 --> 00:28:39.880 like the foresight to be doing this in the first 393 00:28:39.920 --> 00:28:42.200 place when lots of people are saying it was useless. 394 00:28:43.240 --> 00:28:47.200 Now nobody's saying that anymore. So you know, he has 395 00:28:47.319 --> 00:28:51.559 his You got to give him credit where it's due. 396 00:28:51.799 --> 00:28:55.440 But at the same time, his show is incredibly annoying. 397 00:28:56.039 --> 00:28:59.759 But you know whatever, it's nothing special. A lot are 398 00:29:00.920 --> 00:29:03.920 I'm just trying to make this one not like that, 399 00:29:05.240 --> 00:29:07.720 So I don't know if I'm being successful or not, 400 00:29:07.920 --> 00:29:13.279 but at least the thought is there, the the uh, 401 00:29:13.400 --> 00:29:16.000