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Speaker 1: We are here. I'm glad to be here. I didn't
Speaker 1: know if I was gonna make it. Honestly, I was
Speaker 1: at work today and it's hard to tell how long
Speaker 1: I'm gonna end up being there on any given day,
Speaker 1: but I made it. I escaped from work. It's like
Speaker 1: a snake plisk in Escape from La second movie, because
Speaker 1: I'm I'm not in LA but close to it, So
Speaker 1: we're gonna go with that one. I escaped and I
Speaker 1: feel good about it, real good. This past weekend was nice.
Speaker 1: I went up to the High High Sierras, the Eastern
Speaker 1: Sierra area, a little north of Bishop, California. Nice area
Speaker 1: was in the mountains, camping a place called June Lake.
Speaker 1: It was really good. Had the family there. The kids
Speaker 1: really enjoyed it. I did got it was good. It's
Speaker 1: good to be able to do that. So I was
Speaker 1: really really fun time that I of course I wish
Speaker 1: I could have stayed there longer, camped a couple of nights,
Speaker 1: but I would like to camp a full week for sure.
Speaker 1: There's so many different interesting things up that way that
Speaker 1: I want to see that I haven't yet, things to
Speaker 1: see and do. So hopefully I can go back there
Speaker 1: or spend a bit more time in the future. But
Speaker 1: always good to do something like that. Yes, beautiful trips
Speaker 1: out to nature. I hope maybe all of you have
Speaker 1: been able to do something like that this summer or
Speaker 1: anytime they'll get out and get away from it all.
Speaker 1: It's not everybody needs to do that, And again I wish,
Speaker 1: I wish we all had more time to be doing
Speaker 1: stuff like that, but we don't. Coming back to work
Speaker 1: after that trip was was was tough because, uh, it
Speaker 1: hit me hard being at work after being in such
Speaker 1: a natural, beautiful place like that, being in such an
Speaker 1: unnatural and I'm not gonna say abominable, but just completely
Speaker 1: unnatural environs that is my workplace, which is you know
Speaker 1: the case for most people, workplace is an artificial nightmare
Speaker 1: that's been inflicted upon all of us, and just being
Speaker 1: in there was was I had to stave off minor depression.
Speaker 1: But I'd say like the bulk of my day the
Speaker 1: first day back was just as like h just being
Speaker 1: in there and just the just being in that space
Speaker 1: after being in such a beautiful space prior to that,
Speaker 1: I was feeling it. But I'm back in the swing
Speaker 1: of things. I'm back doing the old grind, the old routine,
Speaker 1: back into the routine. It's wonderful. Everybody likes a routine.
Speaker 1: Everybody likes to do the same thing all the time.
Speaker 1: We've made a real boring world. We've created an artificial
Speaker 1: and boring, mundane world where we do a bunch of
Speaker 1: stuff that yeah, I mean, it's very amazing to me.
Speaker 1: I was just thinking this, It's amazing how we've built
Speaker 1: such a boring world that is simultaneously not boring but
Speaker 1: actually fascinating in how and how much we have done this.
Speaker 1: This world. We have built the world of man, not
Speaker 1: the world of nature, not that we're not within that,
Speaker 1: still we are, but we've built this world for ourselves,
Speaker 1: within this natural world that we all came from, and
Speaker 1: we have built it up to great heights it is
Speaker 1: very boring, very mundane, very dull, and uninspiring for the
Speaker 1: most part, for great portions of our lives, we're just
Speaker 1: bored out of our minds and in misery that we're
Speaker 1: seemingly doing nothing. But at the same time we are
Speaker 1: we are doing quite a bit, and in doing a
Speaker 1: small amount or efforts are multiplied thanks due to technique.
Speaker 1: Technology and technique is such that we are able to
Speaker 1: do more but expending less energy. I mean just using
Speaker 1: a machine to do something is I mean this whole
Speaker 1: point of using a machine. We all use machines really
Speaker 1: in our day to day lives to forge onward and
Speaker 1: upward and build this project up bigger and bigger. Where
Speaker 1: we stop. We don't know. We don't have an endpoint.
Speaker 1: We don't have a true end goal, and say sometimes
Speaker 1: somebody comes around and acts like we do, but we don't.
Speaker 1: We're just trying to get to this point where we
Speaker 1: solve all of our problems, most of which at this
Speaker 1: point are ones that we've created because we've been so
Speaker 1: busy building up this artificial is starting to have some
Speaker 1: adverse side effects, and I feel like it was easier
Speaker 1: to dismiss these sorts of things as just like, well,
Speaker 1: that's the cost of doing business. It was easier, not
Speaker 1: even that long ago, to be able to do that,
Speaker 1: be like, well, yes, of course we all see, I
Speaker 1: mean just the fact that we make all of these
Speaker 1: artificial things. Pollution is one problem, right, well, I think
Speaker 1: you have to be out of your mind to not
Speaker 1: understand the extent to which pollution and environmental degradation has
Speaker 1: gotten into is just it's a it might it's I mean,
Speaker 1: it's the problem you could you could say it is
Speaker 1: like the number one problem. If it's not the number
Speaker 1: one problem, it's way up there on the to do list,
Speaker 1: which is a list that we're not actually doing because
Speaker 1: we're incapable of doing it. We can't address all of
Speaker 1: these things because they're endemic to this whole system we've created,
Speaker 1: and we're just hoping and praying that we can push
Speaker 1: technique far enough that will come up with ways to
Speaker 1: address all of these pollutants we've created, ninety percent of
Speaker 1: which or ninety to one hundred percent of which are
Speaker 1: all inadvertent. They're just byproducts of doing everything we're doing
Speaker 1: of industry. Nobody wanted this to happen, but because we
Speaker 1: have done what we've done, they're there now. We're just
Speaker 1: hoping that there will be some technique to solve this
Speaker 1: issue that will be able to clean up. And I
Speaker 1: don't know, it doesn't seem like the priority for coming
Speaker 1: up with techniques to clean everything seems to be too
Speaker 1: high on the list. It's taken a backseat bare minimum.
Speaker 1: And also just the idea that we can fix the
Speaker 1: problem with the thing that created the problem to begin
Speaker 1: with seems a bit crazy to me. And I don't
Speaker 1: want to be a pessimist about everything, but just I
Speaker 1: don't It seems how are we going to do it?
Speaker 1: It seems unlikely. I don't know. And yes, it just
Speaker 1: seems more and more that you can't deny these things anymore.
Speaker 1: It used to be, it used to be we were
Speaker 1: able to, but now we're not. We're we're not able
Speaker 1: to deny the insanity of what we're all taking part in,
Speaker 1: which is kind of a good thing that we are
Speaker 1: maybe finally facing the truth possibly, But is that what
Speaker 1: we're even doing. I don't know. It's debatable. It's wacky,
Speaker 1: it's wacky, it's wild, it's unnatural, but here we are,
Speaker 1: Here we are. It's just kind of nice to realize
Speaker 1: that we can't just sit here in disgusting vanity and
Speaker 1: pride and say, boy, we've done a great job. I mean,
Speaker 1: fewer and fewer people are doing that now, which I
Speaker 1: see is a good thing, because can we not be
Speaker 1: realistic about what's going on? Does that not have value?
Speaker 1: And I think surprisingly that the answer is yes, it
Speaker 1: does have value, And more and more people are realizing that.
Speaker 1: So we have that going for us. That's one thing.
Speaker 1: So that's something to take heart in. I suppose. See
Speaker 1: here I'm read from Phase Shifter and Tim Chilly dot
Speaker 1: com chat room. Here is so serious thing? Oh well,
Speaker 1: first always says it's a condition called PVD post vacation depression.
Speaker 1: I know it. Well, yeah, it's real. Goodness, gracious, I
Speaker 1: was dealing with that hard that first day, and I
Speaker 1: think I staved it off as much as as possible.
Speaker 1: But yeah, that was crazy at first. Stay back. And
Speaker 1: then he also says the ecology issues are now hidden
Speaker 1: in climate change or climate crisis. Just buy some carbon
Speaker 1: credits and shut up. Yeah, I mean, if that as
Speaker 1: a solution is actually like floated as a way to
Speaker 1: do anything, that's going to be a I mean, that's
Speaker 1: ridiculous carbon credit is going to do a thing. I mean,
Speaker 1: and the biggest perpetrators are not about to do anything,
Speaker 1: like the big oil companies and all that. And it's
Speaker 1: a real catch twenty two situation we're in because you
Speaker 1: can actually argue the fact that the use of oil
Speaker 1: gives us our modern world inconveniences that we have. I'm
Speaker 1: not going to deny that, but you also have to
Speaker 1: realize that it's come with with the burden to the
Speaker 1: planet that's caused. And the company is making massive profits
Speaker 1: off of the whole thing, know this, and they don't care,
Speaker 1: and they're not about to clean up they're own mess.
Speaker 1: So yeah, what do you do? I don't know. I
Speaker 1: do not know what to do. I don't have answers.
Speaker 1: I just know that we seem to be careening down
Speaker 1: the highway ever faster, not stopping. Maybe more people are
Speaker 1: starting to care, which is good, But I just hope
Speaker 1: that we don't get a lot of people acting after
Speaker 1: desperation because no real alternatives or good solutions are forthcoming,
Speaker 1: they haven't been yet, and what we just hold out
Speaker 1: for the hope that we'll be able to clean things up.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not saying it's impossible, but it just
Speaker 1: seems unlikely. Perhaps I am a pessimist. I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't want to be. If there are solutions, I
Speaker 1: think we should go for them and try them. I mean,
Speaker 1: what is there to lose at this point? Doesn't seem
Speaker 1: like a whole lot. Doesn't seem like the average person's
Speaker 1: get a whole lot out of this deal, are they?
Speaker 1: That's another insanity of our modern world that set ever
Speaker 1: widening equity gap right between the top and the bottom,
Speaker 1: the top just going further and further, according it, more
Speaker 1: and more wealth, and the bottom getting ever more crowded
Speaker 1: when more people there because there's no middle anymore, and
Speaker 1: just less and less, getting less and less, doing more
Speaker 1: work for less and less all the time. I don't know.
Speaker 1: It just seems like a short fire away for issues,
Speaker 1: and I think it goes a long way in explaining
Speaker 1: a lot of the frustrations we see and all of
Speaker 1: the political turmoil is really based off of this situation.
Speaker 1: You've got everybody fed up with a bad situation that
Speaker 1: they're demanding some kind of answers and change, and that's
Speaker 1: why they'll grasp onto anything. That's why Donald Trump is
Speaker 1: popular because he pretends like he is a solution, that
Speaker 1: he has solutions, that he's the guy for the downtrodden,
Speaker 1: and people believe it. And I'm not going to sit
Speaker 1: here and judge people for believing a lot of bs.
Speaker 1: We all believe nonsense at some point, So you know,
Speaker 1: it's not anybody's fault for watching onto false solutions. There's
Speaker 1: so many of them, and don't we all aren't we
Speaker 1: all just holding out for one that's not a fraud?
Speaker 1: Isn't that what we all want? Something that's not a farce,
Speaker 1: not a fraud, not a con, not some cult to join,
Speaker 1: not a pyramid scheme, not some get rich quick campaign
Speaker 1: where we desperately hope it's true and then we know
Speaker 1: the whole time that's not, but we buy into it
Speaker 1: out of desperation because there has to be a better way.
Speaker 1: There has to be. Does anybody else get mad at
Speaker 1: themselves for just feeling like, how can we be this
Speaker 1: non creative? How can we be this dull? How can
Speaker 1: we be this backward and un able to find some
Speaker 1: sort of way to do something better? I know I'm
Speaker 1: not happy with myself over that, not at all. I
Speaker 1: I how did it come to this, it's ridiculous. There's again,
Speaker 1: there is a better way. We have to figure it out.
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. I'm the last person
Speaker 1: that should be you should be asking, certainly advice on
Speaker 1: how to get ahead or what to do, or ways
Speaker 1: to get out of the mess that we're in. No,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know how to do that.
Speaker 1: Lots of people seem more than willing to tell you
Speaker 1: answers to that. But as I make a point on
Speaker 1: the show, I would just put a word of caution
Speaker 1: out when you're shopping around for those sorts of folks,
Speaker 1: because you're going to be disappointed more often than not
Speaker 1: by their wares, by their so called solutions, by their products.
Speaker 1: So that's disheartening too, isn't it When you believe in
Speaker 1: something or somebody and then they just turn out to
Speaker 1: be just another pile of garbage, just garbage hawking garbage,
Speaker 1: just another refuse site, and there's more pollution. That's just
Speaker 1: let's work harder and harder to make more and more trash,
Speaker 1: more and more things that exists seemingly solely for the
Speaker 1: purpose of being trash. I mean, have the incentive to
Speaker 1: sell things that break because you know, then you sell
Speaker 1: more of them. The plan to obsolescence concept is real.
Speaker 1: So if you can figure out a way to market
Speaker 1: garbage to people, then you can be a success. But
Speaker 1: you know, what does that even mean? Is the philosophical question,
Speaker 1: which we don't have time for philosophy because we're all
Speaker 1: just trying to survive. Perhaps in selling garbage to people,
Speaker 1: you did find a get rich quick scheme, So I
Speaker 1: suppose congratulations in that regard that you actually found a
Speaker 1: way ahead so that you're not dying of starvation anymore.
Speaker 1: So that aspect of what you've done is good. The
Speaker 1: fact that you've created more and more waste and garbage
Speaker 1: and pollution for the for us to destroy the earth
Speaker 1: further and were already have, well that's bad, But I
Speaker 1: guess I won't judge you for doing it. We all
Speaker 1: do it to one extent or another. So I'm not
Speaker 1: here gonna play like a orally superior to you because
Speaker 1: I'm not. Let's see here, what else is on my
Speaker 1: old mind that much? Really? Yeah, I you know, I
Speaker 1: don't know. Just check out my twitter feed. I guess
Speaker 1: let's see what's uh I've found. I might on a
Speaker 1: positive note, I might almost be figuring out how to
Speaker 1: use this app. I've figured out that responding and posting
Speaker 1: comments to even you have to think about the comment.
Speaker 1: You just have to make silly comment. There's a video
Speaker 1: of Trump talking about how he was gonna like make
Speaker 1: the economy better and how he was good under him,
Speaker 1: and he's talking about drilling, and he was talking about
Speaker 1: the price of bacon, and then he was talking about whatever,
Speaker 1: you know, stupid stuff like that, And I made the
Speaker 1: comment drilling for bacon. The boy people seem to like
Speaker 1: that one. So I guess that's all you gotta do
Speaker 1: on here. So I guess I got to just post
Speaker 1: more responses. I guess I got to put more time
Speaker 1: into being on Twitter and posting replies like drilling for bacon.
Speaker 1: That seems Yes, that's the kind of poignant material that works, Chuck.
Speaker 2: That's that's the way to punch up, down and sideways
Speaker 2: at the same time.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: So, So you're not excited for Kamala Waltz No?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, you're from California, she's your she's
Speaker 2: your homie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm personally I'm not excited. No, I mean, I
Speaker 1: will say about the presidential election. I will say that
Speaker 1: I believe the Democrats are they have the advantage now
Speaker 1: at present, that they seem to be holding the advantage
Speaker 1: at present. What gives you that idea? Seriously, Well, it's
Speaker 1: this simple thing is going into this election. What was
Speaker 1: everybody saying about it? Oh? God, it's Biden and Trump,
Speaker 1: these two old guys that we hate. It's the same
Speaker 1: thing that we had before, and it's come right back again.
Speaker 1: We're forced to make a choice the same too, and
Speaker 1: then one of them is taken away Biden and replaced, yes,
Speaker 1: with his vice president. So I mean, what's the difference.
Speaker 1: But I mean it it's something different, and Trump is
Speaker 1: still Trump, the old guy that nobody likes. It's like,
Speaker 1: oh okay, finally something different, and it's like okay, Harris, Okay.
Speaker 1: So just that alone, I think they have the advantage.
Speaker 1: There is that oh thank god, this thing changed to
Speaker 1: something else. So I think they have that confirm.
Speaker 2: See that's sort of like, look, you took away my
Speaker 2: dog crap sandwich and you gave me a cat crap sandwich.
Speaker 2: You know, I mean what I like cats better. I mean,
Speaker 2: that's where we're at the way I see it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but some people are excited.
Speaker 2: And you know what's funny is how about the endurance
Speaker 2: of individuals and the ideas, Because that's the funny thing
Speaker 2: I'm hearing in all what you're talking about tonight is
Speaker 2: that a lot of things don't endure. People don't stay
Speaker 2: on topic, people don't stay on task, and that's why
Speaker 2: nothing ever gets done. Oh, the environment sucks. Look, the
Speaker 2: air is terrible. Let's do something, let's do and then
Speaker 2: it stops. You know what I'm saying, It's.
Speaker 1: Always that issue.
Speaker 2: What about people's short attention spans, And they're short spans
Speaker 2: to attention when it comes to an issue, it's never there.
Speaker 2: So here's the funny part. It's only August. And no,
Speaker 2: we've never had a presidential candidate slip out of the
Speaker 2: race and a new one slip in this late.
Speaker 1: So it's different. Yes, it's different, but is it really?
Speaker 2: Are you not still just dealing with basically the same
Speaker 2: topics and the same loyalists on one side of the
Speaker 2: equation for sure?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: And oh, Joe Rogan says that he he endorses RFK Junior,
Speaker 2: So yes, yes, wild card and what do you think?
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I was looking at the RFK Junior thing
Speaker 1: today too, which is interesting because yeah, Joe Rogan uh
Speaker 1: uh gave him his uh he said he supports him,
Speaker 1: and then almost instantly after that, r F there's talk
Speaker 1: that RFK Junior is gonna drop out of the race
Speaker 1: and say that he supports Donald Trump and that you know,
Speaker 1: his supporters should vote for Donald Trump, which is very
Speaker 1: interesting that the two things happen at the same time,
Speaker 1: and so, you know, it's just it's a good way
Speaker 1: for I don't know what's going on exactly, but it's
Speaker 1: a good way for Joe Rogan and go, hey, look,
Speaker 1: I'm not told you to vote for Trump. I'm telling
Speaker 1: you to vote for you know, the alternative alternative guy
Speaker 1: RFK Junior, which just turns into a vote for Trump
Speaker 1: under this new Oh well, sorry, I got to drop
Speaker 1: out and get vote for Trump. So it's another weird
Speaker 1: way that Joe Rogan kind of wiggles around things and
Speaker 1: doesn't really he doesn't have to believe a damn thing.
Speaker 1: He can just sit there and promote all these stupid,
Speaker 1: like far right wing ideologies and then pretend that he's not.
Speaker 1: He's a depth at doing that. He's like the best
Speaker 1: at that. He's like, oh, I'm just some girl talking
Speaker 1: about sasquatch and sometimes to talk about politics. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: like his whole thing is like a guy talking about
Speaker 1: sasquatch and yeah, I'll talk about whine about the woke
Speaker 1: agenda like everybody else for and then he gets to
Speaker 1: pretend like he's not political. I don't know. I'm another
Speaker 1: thing to be annoyed at. Is that King of the
Speaker 1: podcast though? King of the podcast? Right, Well, yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean he can have that. He is. It is undisputed.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to deny that he is. That he's
Speaker 1: created a brand, he knows what he's doing. He's made
Speaker 1: it an actual business, which is impressive. He was early
Speaker 1: into the medium, so he's been around a while, so
Speaker 1: you got to give respect and just that he had
Speaker 1: like the foresight to be doing this in the first
Speaker 1: place when lots of people are saying it was useless.
Speaker 1: Now nobody's saying that anymore. So you know, he has
Speaker 1: his You got to give him credit where it's due.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, his show is incredibly annoying.
Speaker 1: But you know whatever, it's nothing special. A lot are
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to make this one not like that,
Speaker 1: So I don't know if I'm being successful or not,
Speaker 1: but at least the thought is there, the the uh,
Speaker 1: the intent is there. So I got that going for me.
Speaker 1: But yeah, anyway, uh, let's see here. I'll all to
Speaker 1: go back to Twitter. I made a comment once again
Speaker 1: mentioning something about as somebody is saying that they posted
Speaker 1: a picture, oh God of Stefan Molineu and they were
Speaker 1: asking where's this guy going? And I just made the
Speaker 1: point he was and likely still is an online cult leader.
Speaker 1: I don't know what he's up to. I know that
Speaker 1: that's what he was doing. He probably still is. We're
Speaker 1: not seeing as much. Maybe he's more dedicated to his
Speaker 1: cult because he's got his little accolytes that are giving
Speaker 1: them all that they're all of their money. Now, he
Speaker 1: very likely is doing that. I don't know, but he
Speaker 1: might have like built up a set of like real
Speaker 1: strong followers that do that sort of thing for him
Speaker 1: where he doesn't need to be online anymore. I would
Speaker 1: assume that's very likely what has happened. Again, I have
Speaker 1: been following him. I could care less about him. I
Speaker 1: think he's horrible. He's a terrible person. And I was
Speaker 1: strolling down through the comments people were like, oh, I
Speaker 1: miss a movie. He's great. It's just it brings back
Speaker 1: the old topic of this digital medium, which is all
Speaker 1: of social media. It's not just Twitter, it's just all
Speaker 1: social media Internet as we now know it. With these
Speaker 1: folks out there promoting themselves like Stefan Malnu creating little
Speaker 1: online empires. Joe Rogan has a larger than most online empire,
Speaker 1: very successful, and so von Molineu did not get to
Speaker 1: Rogan status although he did. What he did was substantial
Speaker 1: in terms of the influence he was able to pedal
Speaker 1: using these tools, and so it should be noted that
Speaker 1: people can do quite a bit with these things, and
Speaker 1: quite a bit of damage, and when the damage is done,
Speaker 1: it goes mostly unnoticed because this is a weird, augmented
Speaker 1: reality that we're living in now. This because when somebody
Speaker 1: goes online, it creates media and starts propagandizing, whether just
Speaker 1: for themselves and their own just self interest direct self
Speaker 1: interest like Malineu is most likely doing, or if they
Speaker 1: are propagandizing for themselves for their better it that they're
Speaker 1: making a career, but also they're doing propaganda work for
Speaker 1: a greater organization. That happens a lot too. These things
Speaker 1: are happening to a degree that very few people have
Speaker 1: come to terms and actually realized. Yet it's also innocuous
Speaker 1: and the optics if you just take everything for granted,
Speaker 1: which most of us are, and we need to stop.
Speaker 1: You take this stuff for granted, you're just like, Oh,
Speaker 1: Stefan Molniu was a guy who's trying to help everybody
Speaker 1: by pointing out, you know, all these logical fallacies in
Speaker 1: the world, and he was trying to help enlighten people.
Speaker 1: And that's what it looks like if you take that
Speaker 1: guy for how he's advertising himself, how he portrays himself. See,
Speaker 1: it's all a persona. It's an on line persona that
Speaker 1: you put out. You craft it, and you just build
Speaker 1: up this persona and you build up these narratives around it.
Speaker 1: You say, you know, you make a mission statement, and
Speaker 1: you're like, I am doing this. You just keep putting
Speaker 1: out media and you build a following, and the whole
Speaker 1: idea is to get more and more people to believe
Speaker 1: just that general concept that you are on a mission.
Speaker 1: To fill in the blank depends on who you're talking to.
Speaker 1: We're talking about and again with Joe Rogan, that's like
Speaker 1: a really fuzzy and nebulous thing. Which is particularly annoying
Speaker 1: about him is like, when is his mission statement, Is
Speaker 1: it to be funny because he's a comedian. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's kind of doing that. He's not the world's funniest comedian, honestly,
Speaker 1: I mean he's he's a comedian. He's making comedy. But
Speaker 1: then his show also isn't really about that. It's more
Speaker 1: about is he sharing alternative ideas? Is he like trying
Speaker 1: to bring hidden accult knowledge to his listener base and
Speaker 1: again enlightened, edify, expand the minds of his listeners, Like
Speaker 1: he's kind of doing that. He's definitely saying he's doing that.
Speaker 1: It's not exactly clear what he's doing, but it's working
Speaker 1: well for him that with a guy like Malainew he
Speaker 1: had a more direct like I am here to tell
Speaker 1: you what's right and what's wrong. So he is more direct.
Speaker 1: And so there's all sorts of different versions of stuff
Speaker 1: that we're going to encounter with these personas online. But
Speaker 1: the tie that minds is that the people, the actual
Speaker 1: people behind these digital personas and creations that they've created,
Speaker 1: these digital empires, there is an actual person living their
Speaker 1: life and furthering their self interest somehow if they're successful
Speaker 1: in doing this. Now, I know what you're thinking. You're
Speaker 1: listening to a guy who has a podcast and has
Speaker 1: a website and is, you know, using his online persona
Speaker 1: as he speaks. I'm not denying that that that's what
Speaker 1: I'm doing too, but to put you at ease right now,
Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you that I'm not successful doing this.
Speaker 1: So you know, if that had ought to make you
Speaker 1: feel better, I can tell you that I am not
Speaker 1: bringing home the bacon. I'm not drilling for bacon by
Speaker 1: doing this. I'm doing this as a labor of love.
Speaker 1: I do enjoy doing this. I'm happy that I can.
Speaker 1: I'm thankful for the help of people like Chuck that
Speaker 1: allow me to do the live show. So I'm not
Speaker 1: looking at gift horse in my mouth. I'm not trying
Speaker 1: to be you know. I mean, I'm not trying to
Speaker 1: be like entitled or annoying or anything. I like doing this,
Speaker 1: but I despise the vast swaths of people doing this
Speaker 1: for what I know is the wrong reason. And I
Speaker 1: know this is recurring theme on the show. It's me
Speaker 1: complaining about everybody else and I'm sorry about that, but
Speaker 1: it's become a real issue because clearly people are just
Speaker 1: taking things at face value, and that face is getting
Speaker 1: stranger and more nebulous all the time. So we're taking
Speaker 1: something at face value, yes, but what is that face value?
Speaker 1: Was something that's we can't quite put our hand on.
Speaker 1: This is weird online slop, this AI generated nonsense that
Speaker 1: just kind of is this morphing thing. That is, it
Speaker 1: moves in and out, It goes with the tides, it
Speaker 1: goes with the tides of the memes of it, it
Speaker 1: goes with the trending topics. What's any everybody talking about
Speaker 1: this given second, Well, that's what I'll talk about. What's
Speaker 1: my take, what's my instant take, what's my hot take?
Speaker 1: Does it matter? It doesn't. And once again, going out
Speaker 1: into the mountains and looking at being within nature makes
Speaker 1: you realize how stupid it is. I was not on
Speaker 1: my phone out there. I did have my phone, I
Speaker 1: was taking photos, but that's all I did. I was
Speaker 1: not on social media, I was not doing any of
Speaker 1: that stuff. But clearly people are taking things for granted.
Speaker 1: Those who are creating their own little digital empires are
Speaker 1: exploiting this and exploiting everybody who is taking things at
Speaker 1: face value, and that's a real shame. That's just it's strange.
Speaker 1: It's a strange world where in now once again augmented reality,
Speaker 1: we are within it because this this weird digital overlay
Speaker 1: we have brought to us by social media and online
Speaker 1: connectivity and the cell phones, the mobile devices always being used.
Speaker 1: That's that has an effect on the way we live
Speaker 1: our day to day life. We almost and it's it
Speaker 1: is can very accurately be described as a augmented reality
Speaker 1: because we're looking through this lens of online medium as
Speaker 1: we're walking through the daily world. Like it's so often
Speaker 1: like we're like asking questions like, oh, what just happened?
Speaker 1: And then you know, you do an online search to
Speaker 1: help you understand what's going on, or you're interacting with
Speaker 1: the new you know, once again, the presidential election, all
Speaker 1: this stuff, your opinions on it, you're reacting to other
Speaker 1: people's opinions the other side of the issue. You get
Speaker 1: mad about a lot going on. So there's a lot
Speaker 1: of there's a lot of things to exploit for anybody
Speaker 1: who is smart enough and aware enough to realize what
Speaker 1: this crap actually is and not fall for the farce
Speaker 1: that we are being sold on. It is like social
Speaker 1: media is this if you believe, if once again taking
Speaker 1: things at face value, if that's what you're doing, forget it,
Speaker 1: you're done. If you realize what this stuff really is
Speaker 1: was capable of what's being done with it, then it's
Speaker 1: another story. Oh thank you, yes, I will. It's another
Speaker 1: story for for people of that ilk, which I would
Speaker 1: say are have to be in the minority of people.
Speaker 1: The folks, the online personalities are out there selling themselves successfully.
Speaker 1: The smart ones know what they're doing. The useful idiots
Speaker 1: have no idea, and they're the ones that are propagandizing
Speaker 1: for someone else and they don't even know that they're
Speaker 1: doing it. Lots of those people out there. And then
Speaker 1: you've got intelligence agencies, you've got corporations, you've got political
Speaker 1: action groups, you've got special interest groups of all kinds
Speaker 1: online and using it to promote their costs, to promote
Speaker 1: their narratives, to promote their own self interests, theirs and
Speaker 1: their business partners, whoever that might be. And the networks,
Speaker 1: the social networks at work involved with those groups is
Speaker 1: interesting and tangled, and if anybody is keeping track of
Speaker 1: any of that with accuracy, I commend to you, because
Speaker 1: it's difficult. It can be done, but very difficult. But
Speaker 1: to simply know that that's happening is putting a foot in
Speaker 1: the right direction, taking a step in the right direction,
Speaker 1: which I don't think certainly most people aren't doing that.
Speaker 1: So I'm just once again proclaiming that now is the
Speaker 1: time that we actually get smart about all this stuff.
Speaker 1: We start getting upset about all of the ways we're
Speaker 1: being exploited, that we guess where we can get upset
Speaker 1: at very specific people that we can straight have taken
Speaker 1: advantage in all different ways. Maul Knew definitely one of
Speaker 1: those people. Can be demonstrated that he took advantage of
Speaker 1: the people that he was following in many ways. I
Speaker 1: don't have all the list of those details in front
Speaker 1: of me now, but it's out there, so and I
Speaker 1: don't mean to pick on just him. There's plenty. There's
Speaker 1: plenty of people that deserve to be called out for
Speaker 1: their nonsense. Maybe if we put some effort into this
Speaker 1: and actually getting justice, I mean, but the problem there
Speaker 1: is that that's what we're all pretending to do. We're
Speaker 1: like ah, and the obfuscation comes so fast when those
Speaker 1: bad actors come in with their misinformation. Their disinformation get
Speaker 1: us going off into honey pots and going off in
Speaker 1: wrong directions. And that's so much of what's going online too,
Speaker 1: is that there is this desire to be doing what
Speaker 1: it is that I'm talking about we should be doing.
Speaker 1: And ironically, so many of us are getting in trouble
Speaker 1: because we're doing that, and we've just fallen and been
Speaker 1: duped by these silly limited hangouts. And it's it's nobody
Speaker 1: should be embarrassed or ashamed that this sort of thing
Speaker 1: has happened to him, because it happens to everybody, all
Speaker 1: of us on here, it's happened too. So I don't know,
Speaker 1: maybe a campaign for online liter literacy, something, something, anything
Speaker 1: just being online, unless I would recommend. I know that's
Speaker 1: a tough sell, but I think all of us would
Speaker 1: benefit from that, definitely most of us. There are a
Speaker 1: few people out there who still are not online at all,
Speaker 1: and well done all of you who do that. I
Speaker 1: know you don't hear me now, and you're better off
Speaker 1: for that.
Speaker 2: Aaron, I'm sorry to break in again, but I gotta
Speaker 2: ask a question here because you used a phrase and
Speaker 2: I don't know how to define it online literacy. What
Speaker 2: in the world would that entail? In your mind? Well,
Speaker 2: it entails reading, okay, but that's not literacy specific to
Speaker 2: being online. What is online literacy because that's just literacy, right,
Speaker 2: Literacy is exposure to literature literally, so right, so what
Speaker 2: would online literacy be.
Speaker 1: Well, presumably we're reading online, but that's happening less and less,
Speaker 1: so it does a poor choice of terms. Yeah, usually
Speaker 1: it's just visuals and audio at this point, like with
Speaker 1: the tiktoks and all that. So, yeah, it's a horrible
Speaker 1: label that I shouldn't use because nobody reads anything where
Speaker 1: there's text online. It's so garbled and doesn't make any
Speaker 1: sense that, I mean, what is there to take from it? Anyway?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I started writing a song with somebody and they
Speaker 2: quit corresponding with me. But we were bouncing things back
Speaker 2: and forth, and literally the name of the song was
Speaker 2: they used to be Afraid of the TV. And it
Speaker 2: was about business, so you know, because remember TV was
Speaker 2: the ultimate evil. Maybe, well, you're a little younger than me,
Speaker 2: but I think you were alive when people were like
Speaker 2: TV is going to rot your brain. This stuff is
Speaker 2: terrible you're exposed to this crap. It's programming. They call
Speaker 2: it program I mean, because you're being programmed. Okay, and
Speaker 2: it's all true.
Speaker 1: But now, what.
Speaker 2: Do you tell somebody Like if you grab somebody from
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty seven and said, look, you think TV's bad,
Speaker 2: let me show you forty years in the future. Come on,
Speaker 2: they'd lose their minds, right, Like you mean to tell me,
Speaker 2: I can pump crap into my head anytime a day
Speaker 2: from a device I can carry in my pocket. Now,
Speaker 2: I don't have to have a piece of furniture or
Speaker 2: a three hundred dollars you know console in my living
Speaker 2: room or do I have one in my bedroom or
Speaker 2: do I have one in my kitchen because it's ultra
Speaker 2: deluxe and I've got a TV in the bathroom too. No,
Speaker 2: you don't need to because you can just carry it
Speaker 2: around with you. Here, it is in your pocket.
Speaker 1: Boom.
Speaker 2: And what do you tell people, right? I mean, how
Speaker 2: do you become literate in that?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Well, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not trying to knock you off balance here,
Speaker 2: I'm serious. I mean, like, when you use the word
Speaker 2: online literacy, I said, you know what, that's a great
Speaker 2: sounding term, but what does it mean?
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's the problem, I think, Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: I mean I just just just realizing what it is
Speaker 1: that we're actually doing. Understanding the ways that the medium
Speaker 1: can and is being exploited is a first again, just
Speaker 1: a first realization. I think you could liken it to
Speaker 1: being aware of scammers that are so prolific all over
Speaker 1: our society, not not just online, but using all sorts
Speaker 1: of communications, right that calling elderly people up and fooling
Speaker 1: them with whatever scam to get them to send them money.
Speaker 1: So I think similar to if there's a way we can,
Speaker 1: you know, do PSAs, let people know, hey, look there's
Speaker 1: people scamming trying to get your money from you, and
Speaker 1: they can be this, they can be this, they can
Speaker 1: be this, and we're still have difficulty with the old
Speaker 1: archaic scammers like the Nigerian president that you need to
Speaker 1: send your check to or whatever. Right, So that's we've
Speaker 1: we've come, We've made some headway there, but we need
Speaker 1: to also do that with more arcane online stuff that
Speaker 1: doesn't appear to be a scam at all. It just
Speaker 1: appears to be content, like oh, here's content, and you know,
Speaker 1: you just mindlessly absorb the content, just like the problem
Speaker 1: with the TV was in the old days. As you're saying,
Speaker 1: Chuck is like, you do it without thinking. It's just
Speaker 1: something to do to pass the time, and it can
Speaker 1: become addictive, certainly. So you're you're up against a lot,
Speaker 1: You're you're up against something that's just uh seems to
Speaker 1: be nothing more than entertainment or a way to spend
Speaker 1: your time. And uh, behind that is so much more so,
Speaker 1: I don't know that's uh, let's see, here we go.
Speaker 1: It's a fun Malnu counter extremism project. Oh interesting, you know,
Speaker 1: it looks like somebody's trying to do what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: somebody's trying to do. This guy is bad.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but see there's somebody trying to do anything you
Speaker 2: can imagine if you search hard enough on the internet.
Speaker 1: I swear.
Speaker 2: But what's fascinating to me here is that I almost
Speaker 2: I don't want to quote the Greek, but I'm still
Speaker 2: working with him lately on this project.
Speaker 1: This thing we do on the side, and uh, we
Speaker 1: do a thing.
Speaker 2: Called rated Why and it's only on Patreon, But anyways,
Speaker 2: it's fascinating. I almost want to release the one podcast
Speaker 2: to the public, which which he describes what he calls
Speaker 2: the meaning of life, and what is the meaning of life?
Speaker 1: At this point? What is your purpose? You know? The
Speaker 1: ultimate question? Right? That used to be the ultimate question?
Speaker 1: What is the meaning of life? Aaron? Yeah, maybe maybe
Speaker 1: that seems like it should have been fair enough. Why
Speaker 1: are we here?
Speaker 2: Some people would say, right like, oh, the ultimate existential question?
Speaker 1: Why are we here?
Speaker 2: Why am I alive? Why am I conscious? What is
Speaker 2: the meaning of life? To all these things?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: The philosophical it's fascinating because his recent conclusion is as follows,
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna spoil it. People are just here to
Speaker 2: waste other people's time. That is literally his conclusion about
Speaker 2: the meaning of life. I kid you not. It's on
Speaker 2: there in like a twenty two minute discussion where you know,
Speaker 2: I keep nagging at him to tell me, yeah, tell me,
Speaker 2: tell me, tell me what the meaning of life is.
Speaker 2: Then he says it, and then I say really, and
Speaker 2: then he explains it. And you know what, I got
Speaker 2: a hard time arguing with him. A lot of people
Speaker 2: it seems as though their entire purpose nearly as and
Speaker 2: here's a disgusting term I know you've heard before because you,
Speaker 2: you know, dipped yourself into the podcast universe. You know,
Speaker 2: the NPC's out there, the non player characters, uh, you know,
Speaker 2: not just them, but seemingly almost everybody is really just
Speaker 2: out there to waste your time. That's the meaning of
Speaker 2: their life, not necessarily the meaning of mine, but apparently
Speaker 2: that is what they dedicate themselves to. And is this
Speaker 2: I got a hard time. I got a hard time
Speaker 2: arguing with it.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Yeah, because the Greek isn't admitting that's what
Speaker 1: he's doing.
Speaker 2: Well, see, now that's funny. You said that because I said,
Speaker 2: does that mean you're alive?
Speaker 1: You're here?
Speaker 2: Does that mean you're doing the same thing? And in
Speaker 2: one way or another, he kind of roundabout sort of
Speaker 2: said yeah. And I'm like, wow, this is why we
Speaker 2: don't make a lot of money with our podcasts.
Speaker 1: You understand that, right.
Speaker 2: Because you'll get an honest answer.
Speaker 1: People don't want it.
Speaker 2: They don't really want the honest answer. They want the
Speaker 2: gigantic label machine that just gives them the easy directions
Speaker 2: through life so they can navigate it and call out things.
Speaker 2: Tell tell me how to label everything is really what
Speaker 2: most podcast listeners want.
Speaker 1: Tell me how to label this? Is it true? Is
Speaker 1: it not true?
Speaker 2: Is it right?
Speaker 1: Is it left? Is it good? Is it bad?
Speaker 2: That's what people want from their podcast. That's why Joe
Speaker 2: Rogan succeeds because he gives the impression that he gives
Speaker 2: those answers. But you talk to two different Joe Rogan listeners,
Speaker 2: you'll get entirely diverse answers to the questions. I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: and we need dogs barking in the back, but I'm
Speaker 2: gonna let you go, Eric, because you only got like
Speaker 2: three more minutes left to conclude your exploration tonight. And
Speaker 2: I'm sorry I jumped in a couple of times, but
Speaker 2: I don't know. I just I felt the urge too,
Speaker 2: and you've always said go ahead if you want to,
Speaker 2: So I thought this was important to mention that if
Speaker 2: you think about it that way, that people are just
Speaker 2: here to waste your time, you know what, maybe things
Speaker 2: are not as serious as they used to be, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, like, why is this person incompetently
Speaker 2: doing this to me on the grocery line? Why is
Speaker 2: this driver stopping every three You know what, if they're
Speaker 2: just here to waste your time, and that's really what
Speaker 2: their purpose is, mission accomplished, baby, And while you're scrolling
Speaker 2: through your phone or going through your online stuff, mission accomplished.
Speaker 2: Now does that mean that that's all they do? Maybe not,
Speaker 2: but that seems to be a very serious category of
Speaker 2: what goes on on a daily basis in my mind.
Speaker 2: Sometimes they pay you to waste your time, sometimes they don't.
Speaker 2: Sometimes they give you something to waste your time, sometimes
Speaker 2: they don't. But either way, a lot of people, it
Speaker 2: just seems to me, are just out to do exactly that,
Speaker 2: waste your time. I don't know eron, maybe it's just me. Anyway,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna show.
Speaker 1: You no, no, no, no, I appreciate the help, because
Speaker 1: that's what it was. I'm glad you jumped in there.
Speaker 1: I was struggling. It's hard to know what to even
Speaker 1: say a lot of times, and tonight is one of
Speaker 1: those times. To be sure, it's hard to know what
Speaker 1: to make of this mess. It's hard to know what
Speaker 1: to say. I don't have the answers. I'm that's claiming
Speaker 1: that I do. I don't want to be one of
Speaker 1: those people who does, because more often than not, that
Speaker 1: seems to be more of a problem than not having answers.
Speaker 1: So I don't know, just exploring concepts and ideas and
Speaker 1: online literacy. Maybe maybe I'll go back to the old
Speaker 1: drawing board and come up with a new label to
Speaker 1: describe that project, just the project of understanding online life
Speaker 1: and life mediated by online activity, the augmented reality we
Speaker 1: all exist on a day to day basis and take
Speaker 1: for granted. Because things taken for granted are always opportunities.
Speaker 1: To me, It's like, well, what are we taking for granted?
Speaker 1: And how might we? Yeah? I might we lessen that.
Speaker 1: I mean, we're probably still going to take take it
Speaker 1: for granted mostly, but can we at least stop and
Speaker 1: think about it for a moment so that maybe we
Speaker 1: won't we won't be taking things for granted as badly
Speaker 1: as before. And that's a pretty modest goal. I'd say,
Speaker 1: we're not setting the bar high. I'm not trying to
Speaker 1: save the world. Those trying to be make realistic goals here.
Speaker 1: You got to start somewhere. Just start by saying they
Speaker 1: can't trust a lot of these online personas, And I mean,
Speaker 1: if you want to enjoy their wares and be entertained
Speaker 1: by it, that's fine, but just you know, realize that
Speaker 1: they might be trying to do something else and if
Speaker 1: you're doing that, if you've got that conscious awareness, congratulations.
Speaker 1: So I would say it's an uncommon thing. But anyway,
Speaker 1: that's it for the Age of Transitions tonight. My website
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Speaker 2: to an orange, and no, it's more like grape the fruit.
Speaker 2: So it tasted like grape to you guys. And again
Speaker 2: very low alcohol content, like not near beer, but barely
Speaker 2: a beer.
Speaker 1: How about that? Because it was what.
Speaker 2: Two point nine percent or two point what was that
Speaker 2: two point nine three two point six? Yeah, two point
Speaker 2: eight two point which is very long, very low percent
Speaker 2: alcohol right, and I mean god, barely a beer. So
Speaker 2: you guys did not do the rating, and it was strange.
Speaker 2: We realized that, like right after we closed out the mic.
Speaker 2: It was like, hey, what about the numbers?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I know, you know, I'm just gotten.
Speaker 11: Let me take it off with that stot mast and
Speaker 11: Jeeves said something check.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. So Okay, like you said, Uncle, I'll get
Speaker 1: my rating of Taiwan Beer grapefruit flavored beer. I would
Speaker 1: say I give it a six out of ten. It
Speaker 1: was not something I'd want to drink usually, but it
Speaker 1: tasted fine. I mean, if I wanted something that tasted
Speaker 1: like grape juice slash grape soda, I would drink it
Speaker 1: because that's what it is. But I don't really want that.
Speaker 1: So the six you know, what do you say, uncle,
Speaker 1: the same one, same branding, Yeah, six six.
Speaker 11: Because I am I had you know, it didn't have
Speaker 11: them like I said, the push of But everybody's talking
Speaker 11: about fruit or.
Speaker 6: Contact of licus drink.
Speaker 11: I've had better drink of course that form in.
Speaker 1: New labolution you had. Bet you've had a lot of
Speaker 1: better drinks than Taiwan Beer grape fruit flavored beer, that's
Speaker 1: for sure. So I mean it's it's uh for novelty.
Speaker 1: It's could be fun. If you like sweet stuff, it's
Speaker 1: it tastes okay.
Speaker 11: But if somebody has like a sweet tooth, thet go
Speaker 11: for something like that. That's something like us. They could mean.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but Uncle, we should mention this is the live
Speaker 1: show Friday Night. We do take calls, so you can
Speaker 1: call if you want to. If you're out there in
Speaker 1: the audience you want to call in, please do. Number
Speaker 1: is three one nine five two seven five zero one
Speaker 1: six where you can use Skype actually, and you can
Speaker 1: type a message to Chuck. He is Charles Audacelli. If
Speaker 1: you type him a message, he'll call you into the show,
Speaker 1: or just call with your phone through one six or
Speaker 1: Vibe on the Chili Radio network Friday night. Always here.
Speaker 1: We are people. This is a precis and oh yeah,
Speaker 1: football's back, right, footballs back. Very good.
Speaker 6: He puts his names on that line. Yeah, say what
Speaker 6: your rookie.
Speaker 1: New Mike Dick, we talk about Mike Ditka talking about
Speaker 1: the Tiger Boy. The Tiger Boy. Oh oh yes, the
Speaker 1: Tiger Boy. So we'll see if he's on the one.
Speaker 1: Any NFL fans or any NFL anybody employed by the NFL,
Speaker 1: be cool. If we got a call from you, we'd
Speaker 1: like to hear and get your expertise on all of this.
Speaker 11: What do you all thinking about the new oves? That's
Speaker 11: the question I want to ask them.
Speaker 1: They have some interesting new ones, don't they. They have
Speaker 1: the uh what was it with the when they're doing
Speaker 1: the kickoff, they kick, they're really close to each other.
Speaker 11: Right, Yeah, only for the only person a far is
Speaker 11: the kickout because he has to kick it, damn man.
Speaker 6: So he has to be away from everybody.
Speaker 1: So the kicker is kind of far, but then anybody
Speaker 1: defense is.
Speaker 6: All up together. Yes to me. To me, it seems
Speaker 6: like it's.
Speaker 1: It's sort of.
Speaker 6: Like what you call it games, the Olympic Olympic games.
Speaker 1: It's like the Olympics. The setup, the setup being close
Speaker 1: together like that. It's like to me to me, yes,
Speaker 1: on a football few Okay.
Speaker 6: You know that handball it's like handball handball games. It
Speaker 6: looks just like that kind of setup. It's crazy.
Speaker 1: I see the similarity.
Speaker 6: Yes, that's what I was talking about.
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe I don't know what I think. It
Speaker 1: seems obvious that's the reason that they made the change
Speaker 1: is that they want to reduce injuries on them on
Speaker 1: that returns.
Speaker 6: And I can see that I can understand.
Speaker 1: I'm guessing that's what they're going for there. Yeah. Uh,
Speaker 1: but I I know that there has been a reaction
Speaker 1: to it. I don't really listen to what people are
Speaker 1: saying about whether they love it, they hated well, but
Speaker 1: probably there's all sorts of reactions, right, but yeah, I
Speaker 1: just know I noticed that them doing it.
Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, I've seen him in a few of these
Speaker 11: preseason games. How they got them, They hit them set
Speaker 11: up and it's so close together like that game I mentioned,
Speaker 11: and he's going back and forth them. But but with
Speaker 11: the what they're running in the football.
Speaker 1: Indeed, uncle, did you know that our purpose is to
Speaker 1: waste people's time?
Speaker 6: I know because everybody have to listen to us. That's
Speaker 6: an easy one.
Speaker 1: I learned that in government hour this today.
Speaker 6: I'm not something.
Speaker 11: That token, but yo, yeah, it tightening it up, I see.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the people there, Oh, you're talking about government.
Speaker 6: Government at the time.
Speaker 1: That government just won't quit. So I don't know what
Speaker 1: to do about it. It doesn't seem to ever go away.
Speaker 1: I just have to keep talking about it. So can
Speaker 1: the government just stop? What about that government shutdown? About
Speaker 1: why can't this just happen indefinitely? That way we don't
Speaker 1: have to worry about the government.
Speaker 2: Is there another government shutdown coming?
Speaker 1: It might be? Why not?
Speaker 11: It might be you'd be if everybody don't get there together.
Speaker 1: You know, he had a.
Speaker 2: Whole hour and he didn't bring up a government shutdown
Speaker 2: on Government Hour? I mean, what do you what's going
Speaker 2: on here?
Speaker 1: You know, I didn't. I didn't know. He didn't bring
Speaker 1: it up.
Speaker 2: And I got that.
Speaker 11: Surprising because that's all that been listening to, or maybe
Speaker 11: were listening to on their phones today.
Speaker 6: Why are we going on about, Oh.
Speaker 11: The vice president and he's gonna go, he's going into Trump.
Speaker 1: That's all that.
Speaker 2: I was actually going to ask you something, uncle, about
Speaker 2: something that he mentioned on Government Hour, but it's not
Speaker 2: really a Government Hour topic.
Speaker 1: Did did you go camping too this week? No? You
Speaker 1: didn't go. Oh okay, so you were home? They went.
Speaker 11: They went because I don't have I didn't have my
Speaker 11: own tent. They didn't have me set up my own tent.
Speaker 11: I now got an own tent that I own tent
Speaker 11: that I can sleep in that no one can bother me.
Speaker 2: But I was it.
Speaker 6: I didn't go home, they did.
Speaker 2: I understand. If I had a tent at home, I'd
Speaker 2: set it up every once in a while, just outside,
Speaker 2: you know. I I'll tell you that's what I would do.
Speaker 2: If I had my own solid tent that I could
Speaker 2: zip up and nobody could get in, you know, I'd
Speaker 2: be happy with it say you that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Uncle, wasn't on this camping trip you went on.
Speaker 6: What was the last one I went on was the
Speaker 6: one with.
Speaker 1: Drew Surplies when we went to wait, where do we
Speaker 1: go get? Oh, Sequoia National National or Sequoia Forest. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was nice. I like that. I mean that was
Speaker 1: the last one I went to. That was last summer. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that was a good trip. That was a good camping trip.
Speaker 1: I'm i going back up there too. But yeah, well
Speaker 1: maybe we'll go to the desert and camp sometime soon
Speaker 1: too when it cools off a bit.
Speaker 6: All right, now, this talking about this heat for the
Speaker 6: been going to this subject.
Speaker 1: This heat has been going on and going off on
Speaker 1: and on.
Speaker 6: But this one, it's.
Speaker 11: Now going back down to eighty would be comfortable for
Speaker 11: the dogs and us people walking them. So, but that
Speaker 11: would be nice to have comfortable walking time instead of.
Speaker 1: Using guess what, uncle what, drilling for bacon? Bacon, drilling
Speaker 1: for bacon. Who is h Well, I can tell you
Speaker 1: that's what gets engagement for me on Twitter, drilling for bacon.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna do it here on the podcast and
Speaker 1: just hope and pray to the podcast gods that it
Speaker 1: works the same way on podcast as it doesn't comment
Speaker 1: section on Twitter.
Speaker 6: Interesting, now I'm getting reading.
Speaker 1: Yes, we've just got some subscriptions with me saying that
Speaker 1: I think description, I think we might have. I think
Speaker 1: we might have I think that's how it works. If
Speaker 1: I know, if I know anything about this podcasting business,
Speaker 1: it's this drilling for Bacon definitely drives engagement. Okay, how
Speaker 1: could it not work? Sounds like a T shirt.
Speaker 11: To me, And that's what it sounded like too. I'm
Speaker 11: thinking the same thing that there's a T shirt talk.
Speaker 1: About it could be sounds like an MST song, Uncle,
Speaker 1: that could be a good MST song. True for Bacon.
Speaker 1: Let's get this calls winging in Edge. As soon as
Speaker 1: they show up talking, they're they're they're about to streaming,
Speaker 1: and uncle, we're streaming. We're live streaming. The colors are
Speaker 1: going to stream in. We're actually on Let's see here
Speaker 1: we are on let me see the destinations. We are
Speaker 1: on my Twitter page, which it seems to be getting
Speaker 1: the most views there at the moment. We're doing good thing.
Speaker 1: I got that blue check mark. Uncle. We're also on
Speaker 1: Trovo that's working. Oh wait, no, no, we're on kick
Speaker 1: that's working, Trovo. I'm not sure if it's working or not.
Speaker 1: We're on Twitch and we're on YouTube, and we do
Speaker 1: have people watching.
Speaker 11: That YouTube has been cupped, not on this What My
Speaker 11: Mind podcast, because that's been the tough.
Speaker 6: That one.
Speaker 1: You can take.
Speaker 6: That one has been pulling a lot of them.
Speaker 1: I gotta say, uncle, Yes, YouTube is great, and we
Speaker 1: do get a lot of views and do a good
Speaker 1: job over there. But for some reason, these live streams
Speaker 1: have been doing and now that we're back on doing
Speaker 1: the Twitter streaming, it seems to get the most views
Speaker 1: over there. And I don't know what the weaves us?
Speaker 6: What ones are we talking about?
Speaker 1: The X the X Yeah, that's X. Yes, I've been trying.
Speaker 1: What's this X one? Yeah, it's it's what what is Twitter?
Speaker 1: They changed? They rebranded it because Elon Musk is annoying
Speaker 1: and he can't help himself from doing really stupid annoying things.
Speaker 1: He rebranded it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's got to make it match space x X see.
Speaker 1: Okay, so he's.
Speaker 6: The one doing it.
Speaker 1: He's behind this kit cooling, he sure is that and
Speaker 1: a lot of other things.
Speaker 11: Well, if you can have that, what kind of things
Speaker 11: could we be talking about?
Speaker 1: Other than that, what can we talk about X other
Speaker 1: than that? With X, Oh, we can talk about whatever
Speaker 1: we want. Uncle. This is your show. You get nick
Speaker 1: in the topic. Just name name your pet issue right now,
Speaker 1: Uncle Nate. Tell the people what they need to hear,
Speaker 1: Tell them what you want to tell them. This is
Speaker 1: Uncle the podcast, This is your our letters. Let the
Speaker 1: people know Uncle, and we tell them.
Speaker 11: I know, comedy film, putting the comedies to get him.
Speaker 11: I'm trying to put comedy to get it in in detext,
Speaker 11: this kind of detext of kind of stuff, trying to
Speaker 11: gn't have people to talk in This is what I'm
Speaker 11: trying to get.
Speaker 1: Make people talk. You can't.
Speaker 11: I can't trying to understand, but I know, not taking
Speaker 11: things out of proportion. They are yelling up and down
Speaker 11: the stream about.
Speaker 1: This kind of convention.
Speaker 6: David.
Speaker 2: So the Uncle campaign, Yeah, so the Uncle campaign slogan
Speaker 2: is you want to make America conversate again.
Speaker 1: There you go. That was it. That was it?
Speaker 11: The comment again to have a conversation with everybody chatting.
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, I mean that's what Miami is for. That's
Speaker 6: them's trying to do.
Speaker 1: It's a good point, Uncle. Anybody who may be watching
Speaker 1: on the live streams or in the ol radio network.
Speaker 1: Join the chat. There's a chat on all these live
Speaker 1: stream channels, the YouTube, the twitch, Twitter. You can leave
Speaker 1: a comment. We don't see it, but none. Let's leave
Speaker 1: one anyway and we can respond to the ones a
Speaker 1: lot of the platforms and we'll we'll have a conversation
Speaker 1: right on this show.
Speaker 11: And I like to know, So I kicked, when are
Speaker 11: you going to be able to talk to one neighbors
Speaker 11: over here?
Speaker 1: When will I be able to about? What? What do
Speaker 1: I need to talk about? What the YouTube people?
Speaker 11: No, no, no neighbors are head over here. I'm trying
Speaker 11: to ramp me next door. Yeah, not that side best?
Speaker 11: What do I need to talk two house down? Two houses?
Speaker 1: Hm? Hmm? What am I talking about?
Speaker 6: Three houses down?
Speaker 1: Wait? It is the YouTubers then, but oh yeah, that's why.
Speaker 1: When am I going to talk to them? The chance
Speaker 1: to chance to I haven't seen them in a long time.
Speaker 1: When they first moved in, they were out. A lot happened.
Speaker 6: I've been walking walking a doge.
Speaker 11: Yeah, I talked to the four other half the time.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I talk to the sister PRT time.
Speaker 11: Okay, I've been talking to them, but I can't say
Speaker 11: what you what you have to say to them because
Speaker 11: you have to do it.
Speaker 6: You know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, and.
Speaker 11: Then and then you don't have the time and I.
Speaker 1: And the actions with those people.
Speaker 11: But i'd like to so one day if you would
Speaker 11: be able to get them getting around. Just conversation with him,
Speaker 11: that's all. I mean, conversation with him, okay, and that's all,
Speaker 11: and then see what they say.
Speaker 1: Maybe yeah, I mean, I mean, as we're getting at
Speaker 1: you're the one that's the guy about town much more
Speaker 1: so than me. I don't get out a lot, that's
Speaker 1: for sure. I'm just when I'm here at home. I'm
Speaker 1: usually just in here and it's not I feel like
Speaker 1: it's not a lot of time. You go out with
Speaker 1: the dogs and walk around a lot more than me.
Speaker 1: But at some point when I come out of my whole,
Speaker 1: if I do see them, I might start up a
Speaker 1: conversation like hey, how's that YouTube, and going, hey, I
Speaker 1: YouTube not successfully like you, but I've made stuff on there.
Speaker 11: If you say that, that may get them to That's
Speaker 11: what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Just get them the tool. I might say, do you
Speaker 1: like broadcasts?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I might say that I don't know. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: know when I'll do that. Yeah, if I see them,
Speaker 1: I might shot.
Speaker 11: A few colds to them, but I never had a
Speaker 11: comment from them.
Speaker 6: I on my own cold.
Speaker 1: No, I mean yeah, it's yeah, there's a lot going
Speaker 1: on there. I might talk to them sometimes. Is that
Speaker 1: a good answer answer? But that's what I know.
Speaker 11: That's the tampon last week, the meet before. Well, press
Speaker 11: the button, everybody, what's the button. Let's get going.
Speaker 1: Press the button, YouTube, Instagram, Twitter X. Press the buttons
Speaker 1: and follow us. Uh, you're not gonna miss content like
Speaker 1: Drilling for Bacon. You will be able to catch this
Speaker 1: show when it streams live. I've made sure to retweet
Speaker 1: the live stream via the Uncle the podcast x account too,
Speaker 1: so that that's gonna help us out. So that's exciting.
Speaker 1: Let me go and see. Yeah, the viewage numbers are
Speaker 1: pretty good. Yeah, I see. There's a couple of people
Speaker 1: on YouTube. If you could leave a come on, let's
Speaker 1: join the chat. Tell us what you think? What do
Speaker 1: you think about bacon? What do you think about neighbors
Speaker 1: that are YouTubers? What do you think? I know where
Speaker 1: you're going with this? You do good because.
Speaker 11: I don't know, Bacon, where are we uncle next to
Speaker 11: the neighbors.
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm gonna when I talk to him, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: I'm gonna mention Bacon that said, Oh, now we're now
Speaker 1: we are talking about the other neighbors. I thought we
Speaker 1: were the first time. Yeah, listen here, neighbor.
Speaker 6: This is what I see. Now we're going with this?
Speaker 11: Uh yeah, yeah that that that is the top of
Speaker 11: a question these neighbors over here. Yeah, uh, don't how
Speaker 11: we talk to me anymore?
Speaker 6: And then they all went bananas.
Speaker 11: And then everybody in this house is boy the bounce, the.
Speaker 6: The tree with the food on it, that's going on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, now I know now I see where you're going.
Speaker 11: We're trying to understand what this book now, instant, that's
Speaker 11: all clear, now yeah, yeah, they have.
Speaker 6: That whole glage small glange packed.
Speaker 1: Little up their garage. That that small Oh that's good.
Speaker 2: I just retweeted those those X links that you put
Speaker 2: out there, so hopefully that helps too. And yeah, I
Speaker 2: had to repost the corpse grinder thing too, by the way,
Speaker 2: the guys winning the little toys in the arcade. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 2: so anyways, yeah, I had to put that out there
Speaker 2: with it.
Speaker 11: So I was wondering if we were gonna do a
Speaker 11: preview of your guessing games medal fortune.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess wheel. If you want to do fortune,
Speaker 1: guess the game.
Speaker 11: And they were, and they would be able to walk
Speaker 11: in the show, to have gone the show.
Speaker 1: You're being there?
Speaker 6: Do you remember.
Speaker 1: I am not? We did this on the show, a
Speaker 1: guessing game?
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, flow all's back with the guests.
Speaker 1: To we do with the guests?
Speaker 11: No, you had to to try to get the guests
Speaker 11: in on.
Speaker 1: Uh, if you can guess this, guess that?
Speaker 6: See now he's lost?
Speaker 1: Is this the questions we asked the listeners. Yeah, well
Speaker 1: this is an interesting thought. How about if you did a.
Speaker 2: Game show night on one of the Uncle broadcasts, right, like,
Speaker 2: let's just say we did some real basic you get
Speaker 2: out of whiteboard and you do a game of an
Speaker 2: old fashioned game of hangman, let's say, and people got
Speaker 2: to guess the letters.
Speaker 1: Or something like that. Yeah, yeah, we could play games.
Speaker 11: Yeah, I do that for and is that to shake
Speaker 11: it up a little and that way people, Yeah, may
Speaker 11: you get back on?
Speaker 1: Yeah they pictionary? That could be fun. Yeah, well yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm up for anything. And the video game streams and
Speaker 1: what about those. You want to keep playing video games
Speaker 1: and streaming? Uncle, you want to get back at that
Speaker 1: because we've been doing the VHS streams a lot, but
Speaker 1: we haven't done a video game on in a long time.
Speaker 6: They need to get to the video games.
Speaker 1: You want to do that again?
Speaker 6: Yeah, and get back to them.
Speaker 1: Yeah that also do that again. That's those are fun.
Speaker 11: I mean, well you've been on for the Campion, then
Speaker 11: we can do it and so, but I was thinking
Speaker 11: this weekend.
Speaker 6: Yes, yes, you can do at least one.
Speaker 1: We'll have to do some kind of live stream, whether
Speaker 1: VHS or video games or one of those. So want
Speaker 1: to do a live stream some kind So we'll figure
Speaker 1: that out. I do, I do really enjoy doing those
Speaker 1: live streams on Saturday and the day. They're fun. We
Speaker 1: do have a lot of VHS tapes which you could watch.
Speaker 1: We've got a few of those still good.
Speaker 6: I'm still curious about this this one that we have
Speaker 6: tomp Gun.
Speaker 1: I'm curious. Oh yeah, we have a top gun video that.
Speaker 11: Got a tomp gun video and I'm serious about how
Speaker 11: that stunt.
Speaker 1: The top guns is the title? Yeah, actually, do you
Speaker 1: want to grab that tape? Uncle? Real quick, I'll show
Speaker 1: the audience what it looks like. You see it over there.
Speaker 1: You go ahead and take the headphones off real quick
Speaker 1: and go grab that. Uncle is going to grab the
Speaker 1: tape so that you can see the top Guns. I'll
Speaker 1: show you on camera here. It's yeah, there it is.
Speaker 1: Let me show the audience here, so if you're watching
Speaker 1: the livestream you can see this. It's called top Guns.
Speaker 1: It says the real pilots. The real story came out
Speaker 1: back of the tape, says top Guns. The documentary is
Speaker 1: the story of carrier based fighter pilots in the nineteen eighties.
Speaker 1: Meet the men who are the best fighter pilots in
Speaker 1: the world. Here their views on flying in combat. See
Speaker 1: the rigorous training and months and years of hardworking. So
Speaker 1: it's it's a documentary of the real life top gun.
Speaker 1: Go yes, in the eighties, no less. So we have a.
Speaker 9: Oh, uncle, this is Jimmy Jones.
Speaker 1: Give me back, show up.
Speaker 9: Don't sorry about that target and found out for a
Speaker 9: minute there.
Speaker 6: Oh so it has been up with you.
Speaker 12: Hey, you know what happened yesterday?
Speaker 9: All of a sudden football started practice. Also, my phone
Speaker 9: automatically knows to pop up flying scoreboard.
Speaker 6: They do that automatically.
Speaker 9: On my phone, and so, yeah, I guess they're playing already.
Speaker 9: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm playing the preseason games.
Speaker 2: So Jimmy, you haven't seen any of the games yet, then, right.
Speaker 9: Well, I just observed it on my phone.
Speaker 2: Okay, because I was curious at so highlight Okay, because
Speaker 2: Uncle was talking a little earlier about rule changes.
Speaker 1: What did you hear about the wood changings that they made?
Speaker 2: So I was just curious if you because I didn't
Speaker 2: watch any So you know, I I glanced at a
Speaker 2: baseball game last week because I had a friend over.
Speaker 2: Regular Joe stopped by at my house out of nowhere
Speaker 2: one night, and you know, he drove from Kentucky to
Speaker 2: Georgia and showed up on my doorstep. Because I'm crazy,
Speaker 2: I invite people to my house. But I didn't expect
Speaker 2: him to show up when he did. And there was
Speaker 2: a replay of a baseball game on. I haven't watched
Speaker 2: a baseball game in a long time, and so we
Speaker 2: were watching that. But I didn't know that football was starting,
Speaker 2: and I didn't know about the rule changes. So anyway,
Speaker 2: Uncle brought it up, and I was just wondering if
Speaker 2: you had any views on that, Jimmy.
Speaker 12: I think.
Speaker 9: Change in general football is probably not good.
Speaker 2: Well, every time there's been a change in football, it
Speaker 2: seems to me like there's always a massive objection. You know,
Speaker 2: when they went from the helmets that had one bar
Speaker 2: across and they said you couldn't do that anymore, you
Speaker 2: had to actually put a face mask on, right, and
Speaker 2: things like that. I mean, when they changed the pads up,
Speaker 2: when they changed other requirements in the game, this and that.
Speaker 2: TV timeouts became a thing, right, I mean, people got
Speaker 2: irritated every time there was a change. But I don't know,
Speaker 2: I got a sense about these it might be weirder,
Speaker 2: sort of like the baseball thing where they started running
Speaker 2: a clock against the pitchers, right, I mean, it might
Speaker 2: change the game of it, Jimmy, don't you think?
Speaker 1: Probably?
Speaker 9: Probably not for the beast.
Speaker 1: What do you think?
Speaker 9: I didn't know if we lost quarterably to the New
Speaker 9: York Giants some.
Speaker 11: Four fourteen to fourteen to three, you a final.
Speaker 9: Now, the highlights I did see where the Lions are
Speaker 9: apparently did good. That guy named Hookers obviously gonna make
Speaker 9: a good receiver. And that dude that they got from
Speaker 9: the Detroit Panthers, the kicker with the problematic name very good,
Speaker 9: and then the Lions always seems the.
Speaker 1: There we go. Yeah, I know that. In the chat
Speaker 1: at YouTube, Sally dall is asking about the Dodgers, they're
Speaker 1: doing pretty well. They're doing. The Phillies were at the
Speaker 1: top of the National League. I think are actually their
Speaker 1: top of the National League for sure.
Speaker 6: I'm only well up there.
Speaker 1: I think the Phililadelphia it's been up there. They've been
Speaker 1: up there.
Speaker 11: They've been up there, but they took a few games
Speaker 11: away from them, but not quite a lot.
Speaker 1: But the Dodgers are doing good too, right, uncle, I've
Speaker 1: been watching too much baseball.
Speaker 11: Was well between then and now that has the preseason football.
Speaker 1: Preseason football. We're exciting. It's gonna be good. It's already
Speaker 1: on the team. What the names still on the tube now?
Speaker 6: Should be stuck on that tune like your sister.
Speaker 11: She'd be stuck on that too, to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 11: And that's how she is in this in this football stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of exciting games going on. The Steelers
Speaker 1: were on earlier.
Speaker 6: I noticed the Steelers were playing Texas.
Speaker 1: Texas and they got beat. They got beat.
Speaker 11: Okay, well, yeah, you figure these games, preseason football games
Speaker 11: to know what the rookies do. This is what the
Speaker 11: preseason's all open. If they can make the team on that,
Speaker 11: and that's what it is. They don't care about winning
Speaker 11: the games or something about that. No, not, because the
Speaker 11: seasons haven't even started. He saying, Okay, we got to
Speaker 11: the draft. Okay, we all went to the draft. We
Speaker 11: got these new players. Let's put them in their preseason games.
Speaker 11: And in fact, there's only now three preseason games. They
Speaker 11: cut it five to three now, and so they got
Speaker 11: to bring them and they got to have them cut
Speaker 11: down at fifty three a certain time.
Speaker 1: Who is it sixty three? Is it fifty three? I know, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's pretty small.
Speaker 6: I think fifty.
Speaker 11: So they have to have it knocked down up to
Speaker 11: a certain date.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's all about in the preseasons.
Speaker 2: I'm looking quickly at the current Major League Baseball standings
Speaker 2: and I see that the Baltimore Orioles and the Phillies
Speaker 2: have the most wins in the regular season currently, but
Speaker 2: trailing only by one game is the Yankees, who have
Speaker 2: sixty eight wins, and they're the next, you know, the
Speaker 2: second place team in the Al East with the Baltimore Orioles.
Speaker 2: So and just typically let's look at how bad the
Speaker 2: Mets are losing, because that's all.
Speaker 1: We have to look for, is you know. Okay, So
Speaker 1: there are.
Speaker 2: Eight games behind the Phillies, and I'm sure they'll remain
Speaker 2: there for the rest of the season, even though looks
Speaker 2: like what we got here one hundred and ten, one
Speaker 2: hundred and fifteen, So they probably got about forty more
Speaker 2: games forty five more games left depending on which team
Speaker 2: we're talking about.
Speaker 11: That's yeah, about all of those.
Speaker 1: About that figure time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so with some discipline, well, with some discipline, the
Speaker 2: Mets could easily make it up and overtake the Phillies.
Speaker 2: But they are the Mets, So that's that. Outside of that, yeah,
Speaker 2: let's see who else is competing. The Minnesota Twins have
Speaker 2: sixty five wins. Let's see, so, oh another sixty five
Speaker 2: San Diego Padres believe it or not. And the Dodgers
Speaker 2: are at the top of the West.
Speaker 1: With sixty six wins. At the moment, they are doing well.
Speaker 1: I thought it's a good team. They're a good team,
Speaker 1: there's no doubt about. So they're ahead of the Phillies.
Speaker 1: Well know, the Phillies are Phillies ahead of them the
Speaker 1: West there at the top ahead in the entire National League. Oh,
Speaker 1: that's the Phillies.
Speaker 2: The Phillies are in the Eastern Division and the Dodgers
Speaker 2: are in the Western Division, and they're each at the
Speaker 2: head of.
Speaker 1: Their you know, their their divisions, divisions, right yea baseball everybody,
Speaker 1: what's their tiny up to? He uh doing? Okay? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I haven't heard much about him, really.
Speaker 6: I hadn't.
Speaker 9: Uh.
Speaker 11: He hit a couple of homeless okay, and he made
Speaker 11: some breaking wiccas okay, the hood of that, I haven't
Speaker 11: seen it much of them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I haven't heard much about him. Before the season started,
Speaker 1: there was that stuff going on with like his manager
Speaker 1: or whatever, that weird stuff. But then that seems so
Speaker 1: quieted down to.
Speaker 6: Yeah that quite damn man.
Speaker 11: Something about a lower laying and a lawyer came in.
Speaker 6: Yeah, something like going on. I don't know what that
Speaker 6: was about.
Speaker 1: It seemed to have been resolved. I can't even all
Speaker 1: what it was exactly. Now I have trouble remember anything. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know football, damn. That means me go ahead.
Speaker 9: So in football from the summer league, is that the
Speaker 9: only success story the guys that made it to be
Speaker 9: the kicker for the Lions to anyone else from that
Speaker 9: football other football league make it.
Speaker 6: Some I know some are going to make it what
Speaker 6: they need to be or not.
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 11: They're going to be in there before the season starts.
Speaker 11: But the ones, of course, they have this problem about
Speaker 11: cutting players to a certain amount. And I know one
Speaker 11: guy has been I believe, uh had made it, hadn't
Speaker 11: made it, and he's uh, he's he's with the team
Speaker 11: that he got drafted from him.
Speaker 1: I Tino.
Speaker 2: Taking a look at the NFL, looks like they're in
Speaker 2: week two of four for the preseason, so they're about
Speaker 2: halfway done with the preseason. That means a lot of
Speaker 2: things can still change regarding who they're going to keep
Speaker 2: and cut, right.
Speaker 11: Colok, Colick, Damn, they have to get down to h
Speaker 11: certain amount. Like you said, fifty three. I think it
Speaker 11: is fifty three, not fifty three. Fifty three that seems right.
Speaker 11: That seems right back from us.
Speaker 6: So so they get.
Speaker 1: Down to that amount.
Speaker 11: Now what they have to do is make a lineup
Speaker 11: for themselves.
Speaker 6: All the teams.
Speaker 11: They try get these players to play in the preseason,
Speaker 11: like I was talking about, and they get them and
Speaker 11: see who they think it can make the team and
Speaker 11: things that they he might have to cut, and they
Speaker 11: go through that process now at this time before the
Speaker 11: season starts.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I'm looking at your right, uncles.
Speaker 2: Fifty three players on the active roster in the regular season,
Speaker 2: with an additional sixteen on the practice squad.
Speaker 11: So sixteen sixteen a practice squad.
Speaker 1: They can Yeah, if they get cut from the main team,
Speaker 1: they can make the practice team.
Speaker 11: So that was I didn't know how many in the
Speaker 11: practice team, but he said sixteen.
Speaker 6: I wasn't sure about that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go. So yeah, so, uh so preseason
Speaker 1: is up and running. They did that. What was it?
Speaker 1: They came in Ohio? Okay, we got another call on
Speaker 1: call on.
Speaker 6: Let's see who this is on the Uncle show calling?
Speaker 1: H you're alive?
Speaker 11: You live?
Speaker 1: Who is this?
Speaker 13: This is a dandy in northern California. How you do
Speaker 13: an Opal?
Speaker 6: What's he been up to?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 13: I did up. I just had a wonderful dinner with
Speaker 13: my wife and we watched the episode of Curb Your
Speaker 13: Enthusiasm and my wife went to go play a video
Speaker 13: game on her on her phone, and I decided to
Speaker 13: call in and see what was happening with the Ocle Show,
Speaker 13: and I hear you're talking football. So yeah, who's your
Speaker 13: favorite all time football player?
Speaker 1: All time? Yeah, all time anytime. It's hard to choose
Speaker 1: from Larry's anka is.
Speaker 13: Oh there is, yeah, from the the.
Speaker 11: Yeah, man, he was going, he was going to line
Speaker 11: and they couldn't stop him.
Speaker 1: Uncle, you remember what I remember about larry' zanka. He
Speaker 1: was one of the hosts of American Gladiators. That's what
Speaker 1: he was, that's right, still co host? Yes, yeah, he
Speaker 1: was one.
Speaker 2: He was one of the guys that would stand there
Speaker 2: in a blazer and a microphone and be like, how
Speaker 2: are you doing? Blaze you know whatever name they came
Speaker 2: up with him, Yeah, exactly, Yeah, yours our new that
Speaker 2: whoa Larry'sonca.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So that was my memory as a kid of
Speaker 1: larry'sonka because I used to watch football when I was
Speaker 1: young like that, but I did watch American Gladiators.
Speaker 2: Wasn't Larry's anka still active when you were on the
Speaker 2: Special Olympics, uncle, Like right around that time, was he
Speaker 2: still an active player?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Yeah, there's still a little bit time.
Speaker 11: Yeah. Yeah, that was before they went down to the
Speaker 11: you one than.
Speaker 1: The seventy two and I was seventy two.
Speaker 11: They won the Super Bowl because they beat they beat
Speaker 11: Washington Redskins at the time named but not in that
Speaker 11: name now.
Speaker 1: But now the commands, the Commanders, now the commanders, the
Speaker 1: command is now. Yeah, well, Danny, it's good to have you.
Speaker 1: Who would you say is your favorite player? Who is?
Speaker 13: Well, my my favorite? Well, I have a couple favorite
Speaker 13: all time nfls, but for my players that remind me
Speaker 13: of Larry's dont Who would be Marv Hover of the
Speaker 13: Oakland Raiders and John Riggins of the Redskins. And I
Speaker 13: would also put Garl Campbell in that category, just a
Speaker 13: very difficult runner to stop, and maybe even the Bo
Speaker 13: Jackson of the Raiders. I would say about all two
Speaker 13: all time favorite players would be Joe Montana of the
Speaker 13: San Francisco forty nine Ers, and then it would be
Speaker 13: the Raiders. Would be Tim Brown of the of the Raiders,
Speaker 13: I mean Joe Montana the forty nine Ers, I'm sorry,
Speaker 13: and would be Tim Brown of the Raiders. Those would
Speaker 13: be my two all time favorites. But I'm a huge
Speaker 13: Notre Dame fan, so anybody that comes from Notre Dame
Speaker 13: and I remember listening to the radio. I hadn't even
Speaker 13: seen Joe Montana play, and I remember the first time
Speaker 13: I heard him coming in the game. They were losing
Speaker 13: to North Carolina and he pulled that game out. So
Speaker 13: I've always been a new fan of a Joe Montana.
Speaker 1: Hey day.
Speaker 2: Who was the raider they called the mad Bomber?
Speaker 1: Who was that guy?
Speaker 13: The only one that I can think of, but that
Speaker 13: might have been Darryl Lamonica. He was a broth. Yeah,
Speaker 13: I think he was a dabler. Al Davis had a
Speaker 13: huge He was really speedy receivers and he wanted to
Speaker 13: throw the long ball, you know, so I believe that
Speaker 13: was parlamonic. If I could be mistaken, it sounds right.
Speaker 6: I mean it sounds right right, might be right. They
Speaker 6: also had why receive the branch.
Speaker 13: Brand was very fasts number twenty one. Yes, he was
Speaker 13: a speedster. So that was always how David thing was speed.
Speaker 13: I remember when they they drafted Tim Brown. They got
Speaker 13: Willie Galt too. I think he was an Olympic sprinter
Speaker 13: and they wanted to put they wanted to emphasize Willy
Speaker 13: Golf over Tim Brown. And Tim Brown became partmit of
Speaker 13: the overall a better receiver. He did part returns, kickoff
Speaker 13: returns and received and I think it was like the
Speaker 13: third all time receiver. And for whatever reason, it took
Speaker 13: him third round to make the Hall of Fame, which
Speaker 13: I think was kind of was wrong.
Speaker 1: Don't go well, I know that Sally Dolls says that
Speaker 1: Warren Moon, she seems that seems to be her favorite player.
Speaker 1: So we got that from the YouTube chat there. Uh, Jimmy,
Speaker 1: what about you?
Speaker 11: You got a favorite Jimmy?
Speaker 2: Oh wait, Jimmy, Jimmy's on hold sorry, hold on, okay, okay, okay,
Speaker 2: that what happened to him?
Speaker 1: I get him up? There we go.
Speaker 9: Oh my goodness, Grace.
Speaker 12: So I said all that and sorry, uh well, everyone
Speaker 12: else cut the name with you, So I want to
Speaker 12: name with you. Walter Tayton, Barry Sanders and oh j Simpson.
Speaker 9: That's right, I said it. I'm sorry, I'm sticking with it.
Speaker 6: We're talking about I see you going with this.
Speaker 11: Yeah, the good that's when he Nun's wife. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 11: I know, I know. Well he had a good yeah,
Speaker 11: even a good ball player one day.
Speaker 6: Anyway, from but it's after the top.
Speaker 13: I would I would say very Sanders pound was probably
Speaker 13: the greatest running back ever. I mean he really was
Speaker 13: probably the greatest. I mean, Barry Sanders just was amazing running.
Speaker 6: Back, that running back for the Piars.
Speaker 11: Oh and he also has a star of of of.
Speaker 6: His designer picture. And we they get.
Speaker 1: This award you're talking about the Walter pat.
Speaker 6: He made it for that purpose for him.
Speaker 11: And and then okay, who's going to be who do
Speaker 11: you think is going to be at this coming's like question?
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we don't know yet. We have team playing
Speaker 1: the philanthropic in the NFL. Who does the best in
Speaker 1: that with like the charity working on since.
Speaker 11: That came up, give me talked about them teams and
Speaker 11: then I mentioned that.
Speaker 1: There we go. Yeah, all right, well everybody's excited about
Speaker 1: football here. I I want to watch some of the
Speaker 1: preseason games. I kind of like watching and seeing what
Speaker 1: the new guys can do. Sundays the Rams have played
Speaker 1: playing Dallas. Want to see who they put in there,
Speaker 1: so hopefully they put like Fisk and Verse both in there.
Speaker 1: I want to see what those guys He's going to
Speaker 1: put him in.
Speaker 11: I mean, and now the coach, the coach doesn't matter
Speaker 11: to win the lose because of this preseason stuff. But
Speaker 11: he's going to try to put some new players in
Speaker 11: that that he even got from the dream.
Speaker 1: Can't put all of them? Yeah, you know you won't
Speaker 1: play all of them. Oh, they're gonna play all of them.
Speaker 1: That's there's no doubt about it, and see how it goes.
Speaker 1: That's my other team anyway, I have.
Speaker 6: But for anybody complain about who's playing what.
Speaker 11: Teams of mine and what teams are theirs?
Speaker 1: My two teams.
Speaker 11: MAMS and MYAMS, and I don't here nobody talk.
Speaker 6: About the team. I tired of hearing that from everybody talking.
Speaker 1: Well, I know that Danny seems to go with both
Speaker 1: of the Bay Area teams, and I can tell he
Speaker 1: likes both of them. So you got that going on today.
Speaker 1: You ever catch heat for liking both teams, Danny?
Speaker 13: Yeah, oh yeah, I had, because it's usually one or
Speaker 13: the other. I mean, I started out as a Raiders fan,
Speaker 13: but I probably primarily I'm a Notre Dame fan. I've
Speaker 13: been a huge fan of Notre Dame since I was
Speaker 13: like four years of age. So I route for players
Speaker 13: that make it the NFL, and at that time, when
Speaker 13: Joe Montana came to San Francisco, I started rooting for
Speaker 13: both teams. I had no reason to dislike either team.
Speaker 13: And I've had people tell me you can't be a
Speaker 13: fan of either next so you guess I can. I am.
Speaker 13: I didn't really ever felt their rivalries because one was
Speaker 13: NFL and one was a flot.
Speaker 11: And the and the only time they would meet, if
Speaker 11: they meet, it would be in the super Bowl. If
Speaker 11: you think, I think, if you think of it that way, that's.
Speaker 1: How I think.
Speaker 13: Yeah, that's why not going to happen?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 13: Yeah, they they now that they start to interlay play
Speaker 13: of the Days and the Giants. I've always been more
Speaker 13: of an A's fan, so I do for Days over
Speaker 13: the Giants. Even though the Giants is a better organization
Speaker 13: for the fan experience, I don't dislike the Giants, if
Speaker 13: that makes sense. Absolutely awful for the fans, you know.
Speaker 2: When when it comes to the Raiders, though, I gotta
Speaker 2: tell you Romanowski and uh and Tatum are are definitely
Speaker 2: two of my favorite guys.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, wonderful read.
Speaker 13: I read his biography he was. It was a really
Speaker 13: good biography because he was when he was recruited out
Speaker 13: of college, Luddy Hayes never talked to him Hayes recruited
Speaker 13: his mother and he was out.
Speaker 1: He was in New Jersey.
Speaker 13: Jack Datum was from your Jersey and he was playing basketball,
Speaker 13: and somebody from the neighbor and said, hey, Jack, you
Speaker 13: better go check out your mom's some vacuum. Their salesmen
Speaker 13: trying to sell your mom and vacuum. And they showed
Speaker 13: up there and it was Wody Hayes having coffee and
Speaker 13: pie with his mom and then fum because you're going
Speaker 13: to go with coach Hayes. And he and Jack Cat
Speaker 13: had nothing to praise for what he hates.
Speaker 1: He was like father and Tom being Woody Hayes. I know,
Speaker 1: well for my time in Columbus there was many a
Speaker 1: mural of wood He Hayes, and like lots of shrines
Speaker 1: to him. He got a different hole in the wall
Speaker 1: bars again like a big painting of what Woody Hayes
Speaker 1: in the wall. So I know of him because just
Speaker 1: because of that, just from living around there.
Speaker 2: So and you know, here's a funny thing, uh in
Speaker 2: the chat room apparently face shifter says a Tony hit
Speaker 2: his thirty face with uh Homer tonight.
Speaker 1: So there we go. So he's doing what he does.
Speaker 1: He's heading home runs. Okay, well there we go. He's
Speaker 1: playing just fine. I figured he would be. And he
Speaker 1: said a little while ago.
Speaker 2: But the Dodgers were up over the pit Over Pittsburgh
Speaker 2: seven to one in the fifth.
Speaker 1: But that was a little while ago Pittsburgh. Okay, this
Speaker 1: is a full sports team, you know, all the sports
Speaker 1: all the time, not barstool.
Speaker 13: I'd like to add one thing about football is what
Speaker 13: I went to a really small high school and we
Speaker 13: had a really good football team. And I ended up
Speaker 13: playing with four guys in this high school of three
Speaker 13: hundred and fifty students.
Speaker 6: And four four four.
Speaker 13: Players and up in the NFL, and only one was
Speaker 13: ever got a got a scholarship out of the.
Speaker 1: Full m got the Cruelis Ship.
Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, I played. I played with four guys at
Speaker 13: the NFL. In the NFL, one ended up in the quarterback.
Speaker 13: I'm not going to mention names. She can look it
Speaker 13: up with eighty five Super Bowl quarterback for the losing
Speaker 13: team for the New England Patriots. I grew up with him.
Speaker 13: His brother ended up going to UC Davis and he
Speaker 13: got drafted to the Houston Oilers and he ended up
Speaker 13: being a safety. And there was a line. Then he
Speaker 13: ended up playing for the Redskins and he got a
Speaker 13: Super Bowl ring. He was I never thought it was
Speaker 13: really big. He ended up he was the backup tackle
Speaker 13: for Joe Jacobe, you know, the ball pro and that fact.
Speaker 13: We had a virgunity. He brought a Super Bowl ring.
Speaker 13: I got to put it on. One other quarterback ended
Speaker 13: up getting drafted the Niners and it was a preseason
Speaker 13: game and I watched him fumbled twice and then he
Speaker 13: was cut the next day. So it was just a
Speaker 13: really being to play with that many guys in the NFL.
Speaker 1: And I see that we've got green Seed in the
Speaker 1: chat and he's saying that he likes pinball Clements, but
Speaker 1: he thinks that might be CFL. So there we go.
Speaker 1: Look out green Seeds every day, Clements, pinball Clements.
Speaker 13: He's talking about a Notre Dame quarterback because it was
Speaker 13: one of my favorites as a kid in the early
Speaker 13: seven was a guy named Tom Clemons, and he left
Speaker 13: Notre Dame to the championship when they beat Alabara Bryant,
Speaker 13: Alabama teams park the Canadian Football League.
Speaker 1: Talk maybe it was yeah, I just know. When green
Speaker 1: Seed was on the show, he's talking about the Seattle
Speaker 1: Fishmongers needing to be an expansion team.
Speaker 11: Oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah, I know, talking talking about
Speaker 11: expansion teams.
Speaker 1: Yes, got that guy.
Speaker 11: That guy kept talking about that I mean thing because
Speaker 11: you're saying, how come these teams? Him and Ben Troy preseason?
Speaker 11: Get these other players in who said that?
Speaker 1: Somebody did? Somebody did? Uncle, I'm the same as how
Speaker 1: we have these callers and we're going towards the end
Speaker 1: of the show, why don't we let everybody do a
Speaker 1: shout out? What do you say? That sound good? Okay?
Speaker 1: The first one was Jimmy go from there for the
Speaker 1: shout out? Sounds good? And Jimmy, who you got to
Speaker 1: shout out to?
Speaker 9: Shout out to the helpless Detroit Lions. Good luck you'll
Speaker 9: need it.
Speaker 1: Oh no, all right, well that sounds good. Jimmy, thanks
Speaker 1: for calling in, man can call We have Danny on
Speaker 1: the one day.
Speaker 6: Is a second man shout out to.
Speaker 13: Thank you for letting me come in and participate. And
Speaker 13: I'd have a shout out for my fighting Irish and
Speaker 13: uh days are coming to Sacramento to play for two
Speaker 13: to three seasons before we go to Vegas. Uh and
Speaker 13: I want everybody to take.
Speaker 6: Care talking about it.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Danny, it's great to talk to you. Man.
Speaker 1: I didn't realize that the A's were going to Vegas.
Speaker 11: But thinking about that, I forgot that to them.
Speaker 6: Okay, long, the state is going to come to you guys,
Speaker 6: don't you.
Speaker 1: Dame. Oh they got play, don't you, dame. Oh you're
Speaker 1: talking about like the conference compet change. Yeah, they're coming
Speaker 1: this year. That's another.
Speaker 11: That's another another conversation, conversation for the next time until.
Speaker 13: Don't be playing at USC. Yes, it's their time to
Speaker 13: play at USC in the November.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, all right, Danny. It's great to have anything
Speaker 1: called back anytime, well back in time.
Speaker 13: Thank you, Thank you.
Speaker 1: Perhaps absolutely now, Uncle, did you want to shout anybody out.
Speaker 11: Well, shut out to anybody that was listening and whoever
Speaker 11: was in the stains.
Speaker 6: I haven't been listening.
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. That's right, Thank you, Thank you, Chuck.
Speaker 1: Would you like to do a shout out bringing shout? No,
Speaker 1: I'm good, Thanks, Okay, Okay, I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: That's all I'm gonna say. I appreciate all the listeners.
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Speaker 1: to once again drive home the point drilling for Bacon.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, we know who that was. Now, got to
Speaker 1: say that again. It has to be said. I mean
Speaker 1: if if if we don't say it, who will. That's
Speaker 1: all I gotta say.
Speaker 11: I finally figured out who it's about.
Speaker 6: I got it now, I know we don't mountain. Oh yeah, now.
Speaker 1: Uncle's on top of this. Yeah, and we should be
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Speaker 11: That's all I show my says most three and forty years.
Speaker 1: In the books, Bye bye, and you will be.
Speaker 11: I'll put the howies on the player because she wants
Speaker 11: me to play that.
Speaker 6: Don't pick