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<v Speaker 1>Multiple people in my family clean my father, are veterans.

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<v Speaker 2>Troops that have been to war and now they're back.

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<v Speaker 3>And think and be grateful for their service.

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<v Speaker 2>Sacrifice, love for their country, just unselfishness, all that they

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<v Speaker 2>do for us.

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<v Speaker 4>There are some people in this country who take extraordinary

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<v Speaker 4>steps to provide for the freedom and security.

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<v Speaker 3>We forget that those people exist.

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<v Speaker 1>We know them as the Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines,

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<v Speaker 1>and Coast Guard. They call themselves soldiers, seals, rangers, airmen, sailors,

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<v Speaker 1>devil dogs.

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<v Speaker 5>And so much more.

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<v Speaker 1>We call them fathers, brothers, sons and husbands, mothers, daughters,

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<v Speaker 1>sisters and wives. We call them friend and neighbor. These

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<v Speaker 1>veterans answered the call. Now we answer Theirs are the

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<v Speaker 1>best our country has to offer, and we love them. Today,

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<v Speaker 1>we honor them and we serve this. David Malsby is

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<v Speaker 1>As together we are building the road to hope.

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<v Speaker 3>Glad to have a couple of a couple of combat

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<v Speaker 3>vets with us today, one from our staff, one that's

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<v Speaker 3>currently in the program. George, want to reintroduce yourself to

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<v Speaker 3>the world. It's been in a little bit since you've

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<v Speaker 2>Has probably been since Thanksgiving last tight?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh really, it has been a while. That has been

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<v Speaker 3>a while.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I graduated from Campo about close to two years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>I went in back in August first of twenty twenty two.

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<v Speaker 2>My life basically came undone. Actually had a good friend

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<v Speaker 2>that was still his staff there that brought me in

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<v Speaker 2>and coming to Camp Hoe changed my life.

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<v Speaker 3>And you were Army Marines, Marine Corps, Yes, sir, and

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<v Speaker 3>you deployed twice Iraq, two times direct because the first

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<v Speaker 3>time wasn't enough. You just wanted a little more something

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<v Speaker 3>like that.

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<v Speaker 5>Something like that.

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<v Speaker 3>That's where they sent you.

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<v Speaker 5>Guess what you're doing. Yay, what years did you boy? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>What years did you deploy? Five and seven?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so not atypical. Your second appoint was those seven,

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<v Speaker 3>So that means it was fifteen years after that, roughly

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<v Speaker 3>before you got the camp.

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<v Speaker 2>Hope just the math is correct.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, somewhere in there.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm bad at math. Yeah, me too.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh yeah, numbers, they get in the way a thing

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<v Speaker 3>of that. I don't understand them. Uh, but yeah, I

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<v Speaker 3>took it a little while before you found your way

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Good fifteen years like you said. But luckily one

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<v Speaker 2>of my good friends who was a staff or still

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<v Speaker 2>a staff member there, I heard of what was going

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<v Speaker 2>on with me and next day had me on the

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<v Speaker 2>phone with Camp Hope trying to get me into the program.

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<v Speaker 3>Glad you did. I'm glad you're still with us. Grateful

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<v Speaker 3>for what you do. Thank you appreciated. I mentally all right, Derek,

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<v Speaker 3>I want to introduce yourself to the world.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm Derek Jolly Army. Uh. I was born in love.

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<v Speaker 4>It and uh basically raised in Houston here Spring Branch area.

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<v Speaker 3>How old were you when you moved to Houston.

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<v Speaker 5>I guess around three or four.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh okay, so you don't remember at all. It's going

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<v Speaker 3>to say that it's been cold here this past week.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah and cold.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's gonna say with the wind it was well.

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<v Speaker 3>I was not a fan leave It.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't meet too many people that were, but love

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<v Speaker 4>It can definitely do that on the regular.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, there's nothing, no trees. Yeah, that's wind.

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<v Speaker 3>Blocked the wind, Yes, sir, reminds me of my childhood

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<v Speaker 3>Oklahoma City, like it would. It would get that way

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<v Speaker 3>a few times every winter. Like I didn't like it then,

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<v Speaker 3>I sure don't like it now.

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<v Speaker 4>People that lived there, they got to act like they

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<v Speaker 4>like it, I believe.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, maybe I don't know. It's what you're used to,

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<v Speaker 3>whatever you know, grow up in. It's just normal. It's

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<v Speaker 3>whatever it is.

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<v Speaker 5>It is.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I keep moving further south, Like I moved from

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<v Speaker 3>Oklahoma City to Dallas, which is about three and a

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<v Speaker 3>half four hours south of Oklahoma City, lived there ten years.

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<v Speaker 3>Then I moved to Houston, another four hours south. Like

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<v Speaker 3>I can't move any further south unless I buy a boat,

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<v Speaker 3>and I don't want to buy a boat. I sure

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<v Speaker 3>don't want to live in a boat in the middle

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<v Speaker 3>of the Gulf of America or whatever you choose to

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<v Speaker 3>call it. But uh hmm, yeah, too cold. All right,

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<v Speaker 3>we're gonna have to take a quick break. A reminder.

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<v Speaker 3>Eight seven seven seven to one seven seventy eight seventy

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<v Speaker 3>three is our combat trauma support line. Eight seven seven

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<v Speaker 3>seven one seven seventy eight seventy three. What you must

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<v Speaker 3>know about that number is this a combat that will

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<v Speaker 3>answer the phone twenty four seven three sixty five eight

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<v Speaker 3>seven seven seven one seven seventy eight seventy three, will

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<v Speaker 3>be right back and were welcome back Road to Hope Radio.

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<v Speaker 3>David Malsby here got Derek that State's Army currently in

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<v Speaker 3>our program at Camp Hope, Georgia, United States rings a

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<v Speaker 3>veteran and a graduate of Camp Hope, current staff member

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<v Speaker 3>at Camp Hope. All right, Derek, you mentioned you were

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<v Speaker 3>from originally from Lovegood, grew up in the Houston area, right, correct,

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<v Speaker 3>So what what caused you to join the army?

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<v Speaker 4>Just be that I saw myself joining the military early

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<v Speaker 4>before I got out of high school.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you join right out of high school?

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<v Speaker 5>Shortly thereafter?

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<v Speaker 4>I worked at a local gas station everywhere back when

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<v Speaker 4>you still pump gas.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, just dated yourself a little, yeah, an idees, I

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<v Speaker 3>do remember those days. I remember anyway, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, And.

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<v Speaker 4>Getting out of high school, I didn't really have any

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<v Speaker 4>plans for college, even though to me that was what

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<v Speaker 4>you're supposed to do. But that's not what I did.

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<v Speaker 4>I joint went to talk to the army. If I

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<v Speaker 4>had walked into the Marines, I probably would have been

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<v Speaker 4>the Marine, but I walked into the Army place there

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<v Speaker 4>and they took me in and I joined the Infantry

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<v Speaker 4>at my choice. What year was it, That was probably

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<v Speaker 4>eighty six, and went to basic training and Benning Fort Benning,

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<v Speaker 4>Georgia and stationed at Fort Ord, California, which was closed

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<v Speaker 4>now they've closed it down after some time after I left.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you have any family in the military or just

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<v Speaker 3>you were the first one.

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<v Speaker 4>I had an uncle on my mom's side there that

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<v Speaker 4>was Air Force, and I want to say he was

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<v Speaker 4>a lieutenant colonel or something like that, but he was

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<v Speaker 4>high ranking. He was in Vietnam, but he stayed off

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<v Speaker 4>the ground and in the air.

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<v Speaker 3>Gotcha, which could be good and could be not so

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<v Speaker 3>good because the way you're flying.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, sir, he was in a big bird, big plane,

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<v Speaker 4>way high up there.

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<v Speaker 3>Got you okay?

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<v Speaker 4>So you joined eighty six ish, Yeah, and you deployed

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<v Speaker 4>where it went to Panama eighty eight eighty nine, Noriega.

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<v Speaker 4>If anybody remembers Daega, we were there trying to hunt

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<v Speaker 4>him down on get him huge news at the time.

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<v Speaker 4>He was huge news, it was, and we did back then.

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<v Speaker 4>You didn't have the cameras you got these days where

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<v Speaker 4>you got one on your helmet and everything. The only

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<v Speaker 4>camera I had was one of those throw away cardboard

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<v Speaker 4>Kodak cameras, and so there weren't many, no no media

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<v Speaker 4>with us, traveling with us or anything like that. But

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<v Speaker 4>they did catch some of it somehow. I didn't never

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<v Speaker 4>see how they did that. But yeah, it was short,

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<v Speaker 4>luckily short lived, and we we we nabbed him and

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<v Speaker 4>got the job done.

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<v Speaker 3>It was huge news.

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<v Speaker 5>That'll call that very vividly.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>So that was eighty.

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<v Speaker 4>Eight, eighty eighty eight, No, yeah, eighty eight, eighty nine.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, somewhere in there. Yeah, okay, all right, what did

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<v Speaker 3>you do when you came.

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<v Speaker 5>Home went back to training? How long did you.

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<v Speaker 3>Stay in the army?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh the eighty seven to ninety two.

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<v Speaker 5>When I got out, I.

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<v Speaker 4>Left out the gate and there was not much information,

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<v Speaker 4>you believing about what's gonna lapping out on the other side.

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<v Speaker 4>I couldn't believe I was driving out the gate. I

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<v Speaker 4>figured they were going to be sent, you know, holding

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<v Speaker 4>us back for Iraq and stuff. But luckily I got

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<v Speaker 4>out the gate.

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<v Speaker 5>A lot of my.

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<v Speaker 4>Battle buddies, I guess we call them, and did get

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<v Speaker 5>Everybody else was deployed to two Iraq. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I never heard anybody complain about either in uh Hawaii

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<v Speaker 3>or Germany. I've never heard any comments about either one

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<v Speaker 4>And there were people stationed in Panama too, you know, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>yeah with the way, Yeah, but that's not a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>Of smiling faces about that one.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, not been there, and I'm okay with that, completely

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<v Speaker 3>fine with not having been there, nor planning ongoing there.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not on my not on my bucket list right now.

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<v Speaker 4>You want to go back, I wouldn't mind visiting a

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<v Speaker 3>I think a lot of guys I've heard that a lot,

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<v Speaker 3>and I know of some guys, for instance, a number

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<v Speaker 3>of Vietnam Vets that take trips back, yeah, of decades

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<v Speaker 4>And it helps a lot of things to see what

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<v Speaker 3>George, you ever have a desire to go back and

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<v Speaker 3>revisit that, Nope, you know, Iraq and Afghanistan or definitely

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<v Speaker 3>exceptions to that rule. I'm not sure anybody wants to

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<v Speaker 3>go back to either one of those places. Yeah, remind

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<v Speaker 3>me again where you said you were deployed those two times.

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<v Speaker 5>I'll come and I saw it, Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, just the names enough for me, Like, Nope, not mine,

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, when it's time to plan the family vacation, that

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<v Speaker 3>is not on uh, that is not on the list,

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<v Speaker 3>Like we're not going.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh. Quick reminder for information about Camp Hope as well

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<v Speaker 3>as our support groups for both combat veteran support groups

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<v Speaker 3>as well as family support groups. And I'll also mention

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<v Speaker 3>and I'll get into a little bit of why. Also

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<v Speaker 3>all the information about our programs, both the intern housing

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<v Speaker 3>at Camp Hope support groups that happened across the state

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<v Speaker 3>of Texas, a few different cities across the country, and

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<v Speaker 3>then virtually so from virtually anywhere you can join those,

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<v Speaker 3>the law enforcement and first responders portion of that. The

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<v Speaker 3>issue of PTSD is just as prevalent, if not more so,

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<v Speaker 3>in law enforcement first responders in comparison to what's gone

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<v Speaker 3>on in our veteran community. The need is great. It's

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<v Speaker 3>pressed on my mind a little bit more this week.

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<v Speaker 3>This past week, we had.

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<v Speaker 3>Local law enforcement officials, constables, sheriffs from the surrounding Houston

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<v Speaker 3>area out to Camp Hope and then we were able

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<v Speaker 3>to spend actually a great deal of time. We spend

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<v Speaker 3>about three hours together with them in total and talk

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<v Speaker 3>a lot about not only what we do at Camp

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<v Speaker 3>outreach program and just how critically important is for us

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<v Speaker 3>to have a good relationship with law enforcement. And we

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<v Speaker 3>talked with them about a couple of issues that we've

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<v Speaker 3>had one particular local agency. But these folks were just fantastic.

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<v Speaker 3>They loved hearing what we were doing, very supportive of

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<v Speaker 3>what we're doing, looking forward to building on those relationships

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<v Speaker 3>because at the end of the day, we all want

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<v Speaker 3>the same thing, so they're encountering obviously a number of

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<v Speaker 3>mental health issues as they go about their job with

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<v Speaker 3>here and our outreach teams already and able and equipped

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<v Speaker 3>to step in and help and go alongside them to

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<v Speaker 3>help in some of those issues. But we also one

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<v Speaker 3>of the gentlemen was there was an FBI agent who

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<v Speaker 3>had just the night before he'd been up. When he

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<v Speaker 3>got to our place, he'd been up for thirty straight hours,

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<v Speaker 3>and when he got to our place, he was one

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<v Speaker 3>of the FBI agents that took down I think it

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<v Speaker 3>was fourteen Bandido gang members and that he had just

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<v Speaker 3>come from doing that, and you could tell it was

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<v Speaker 3>it had been a rough, rough time after that's a

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<v Speaker 3>culmination of a six year investigation. So you know, those

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<v Speaker 3>guys are absolutely exhausted. But just for you to know

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<v Speaker 3>everything we can to support our law enforcement first responder community,

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<v Speaker 3>and everything we do is absolutely at zero cost to

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<v Speaker 3>the veteran of their family. PTSDUSA dot org be right

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<v Speaker 3>back with more Road to Hope Radio in just a moment,

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<v Speaker 3>and we welcome you back Road to Hope Radio. Glad

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<v Speaker 3>to have you along again the website for all things

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<v Speaker 3>that we do at the PTSD Foundation of America's PTSD

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<v Speaker 3>post Traumatic Stress Disorder PTSDUSA dot org. On social media

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<v Speaker 3>also PTSD USA that's on X on Facebook, Instagram, it's

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<v Speaker 3>PTSD Foundation of America. For show information, and we'll also comment.

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<v Speaker 3>Sometimes we don't do this with the Foundation. Sometimes with

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<v Speaker 3>the show's Facebook page, we'll sometimes share military related news,

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<v Speaker 3>veteran related news, items that don't necessarily really make the

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<v Speaker 3>on our Facebook page and you can keep up with

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<v Speaker 3>some of the those things. We'll also post some of

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<v Speaker 3>the events going on in support of the PTSD Foundation

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<v Speaker 3>of America this weekend as we air this show this Saturday.

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<v Speaker 3>There was a wonderful event in the Orlando, Florida area

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<v Speaker 3>in support of the foundation in our chapter in Florida

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<v Speaker 3>where we serve a little over two hundred veterans, just

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<v Speaker 3>through that one chapter, and it's really just I believe

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<v Speaker 3>four staff that are serving those two hundred plus veterans.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's that's the last number I heard. It may

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<v Speaker 3>be much more than that by now, but the last

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<v Speaker 3>number I heard it was a little over two hundred

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<v Speaker 3>vets that we do support work with their in the

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<v Speaker 3>Florida area. So big thanks to everybody who is a

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<v Speaker 3>part of that event in support of that chapter and

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<v Speaker 3>what we do in the Florida area. So thank you

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<v Speaker 3>very much. And again, if you're following us on so

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<v Speaker 3>social mediall seat those events coming up if you'd like

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<v Speaker 3>have ours. We have two we call event seasons. The

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<v Speaker 3>week of December. That time is just one big blur

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<v Speaker 3>in dealing with the fundraising events, speaking opportunities. That's number one.

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<v Speaker 3>But number two is like now, so March one through

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<v Speaker 3>about May the first, it's a very busy time. After

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<v Speaker 3>that you kind of get into the whole graduation season's

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<v Speaker 3>marriage or wedding ceremonies and all, you know, vacations. Everybody's

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<v Speaker 3>trying to get out of town. Kids at our school.

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<v Speaker 3>But this is are entering that busy time. So there's

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of events coming up in the Houston area

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<v Speaker 3>as well as Dallas area. Those in the Dallas Fort

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<v Speaker 3>Worth metroplex got a golf tournament coming on up up there.

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<v Speaker 3>We have I think three golf tournaments in the next

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<v Speaker 3>just a few weeks here in the Houston area. So

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<v Speaker 3>all those, all those events, information is shared with how

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<v Speaker 3>you can participate those, whether it's just being there, whether

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<v Speaker 3>it's volunteering to help thing running, or your business owner,

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<v Speaker 3>small business owner, you'd like to be a sponsor. Lots

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<v Speaker 3>of opportunities to be involved in fundraisers, and we don't

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<v Speaker 3>talk about that a lot, but I will just tell

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<v Speaker 3>you this is how we are able to do what

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<v Speaker 3>we do. So when a veteran calls that crisis line

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<v Speaker 3>eight seven seven seven one seven seventy eight seventy three,

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<v Speaker 3>we want to make sure that we are able to

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<v Speaker 3>support them and whatever way that is. For some it

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<v Speaker 3>is making their way to Camp Hope. So we will

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<v Speaker 3>buy the airline ticket, we will take care of all

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<v Speaker 3>those things. Won't cost them anything, won't cost their family anything.

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<v Speaker 3>We take care of all that. Well, we don't have

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<v Speaker 3>just you know, as my mom used to say, there's

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<v Speaker 3>no tree in the backyard that just grows cash. It

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<v Speaker 3>is people who care, people who learn about what's going

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<v Speaker 3>on in our veteran community and they care enough to

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<v Speaker 3>do something about it. So for some that's just they

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<v Speaker 3>don't have time, but they have money, so they'll just

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<v Speaker 3>write a check. Some can't write a big check, but

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<v Speaker 3>they can do something, and maybe it's participating in an

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<v Speaker 3>event like a five K or something like that that's

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<v Speaker 3>local to them. So there's multiple, multiple ways to get

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<v Speaker 3>involved in support what we do. But if you like

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<v Speaker 3>hearing these stories that we share each and every week,

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<v Speaker 3>there's always someone here from our interim housing program at

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<v Speaker 3>Camp Hope. Just see your understanding. Just a real big picture,

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<v Speaker 3>real fast. It's roughly one hundred and fifty dollars a

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<v Speaker 3>day to take care of our veteran at Camp Hope. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>if we have let's say the moment, I think it's

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<v Speaker 3>somewhere around seventy living on campus. Some of you are

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<v Speaker 3>better at math than I am, but that's seventy times

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<v Speaker 3>one hundred and fifty every single day. So you extrapolate

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<v Speaker 3>that across the course for a year, it's a fair

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<v Speaker 3>chunk of change. So the only way we're able to

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<v Speaker 3>do that. I heard a story this past week as

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<v Speaker 3>we were touring some folks through our campus. One of

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<v Speaker 3>the vets had come to us from being incarcerated. When

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<v Speaker 3>he arrived at camp, which George, this is your job.

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<v Speaker 3>Right when they arrive at camp, you're one of, if

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<v Speaker 3>not the first person that they see.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, first person that day come in and see.

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<v Speaker 3>So you're handling what we call the intake process. Yes, sir, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>So this particular guy was telling us when he came in,

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<v Speaker 3>and I forget where he had been incarcerat. I think

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<v Speaker 3>it was somewhere in Georgia. When he came in, he

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<v Speaker 3>had a bag like a think of a grocery bag

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<v Speaker 3>when you go grocery, and this is what he had.

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<v Speaker 3>He had two pair of jail issued underwear and I

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<v Speaker 3>think two pair of socks and what he was wearing,

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<v Speaker 3>that's what he had when he walked into our campus.

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<v Speaker 3>So obviously you think of well, we do PTSD, So

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<v Speaker 3>there's counseling, there's the peer to peer, but there's everything

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<v Speaker 3>else in the world that we have to help take

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<v Speaker 3>care of. Yes, sir, when these guys come in, we

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<v Speaker 3>want to make sure. He talked about how how comfortable,

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<v Speaker 3>how safe it made him feel when he walked in.

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<v Speaker 3>Nobody was laughing, nobody was joking like, hey man, what

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<v Speaker 3>do you need? Goes into supply gets jeans, shoes, shirts,

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<v Speaker 3>the basics. They need toiletries, you know, toothbrush, toothpastey, odor

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<v Speaker 3>and all those things. Just how welcoming it felt. And

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's one of the key things about what

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<v Speaker 3>you do, is just helping those guys, because they've got

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<v Speaker 3>most of them. I would think it would have to

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<v Speaker 2>Usually they're pretty like, uh, in a shock and all

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<v Speaker 2>that they're there. And like that case where the certain

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<v Speaker 2>resident didn't have anything, just basically like, hey, man, don't

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<v Speaker 2>really worry about possessions or anything. We'll get you taken

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<v Speaker 2>care of. You don't have shoes, We'll get your shoes.

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<v Speaker 2>If you need underwear, we got you. If you need hygiene,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, we're not gonna let you run around here

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<v Speaker 2>being smelly. We're gonna we're a big family here. We

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<v Speaker 5>We definitely do that. When they come in the.

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<v Speaker 4>In the bay, we take care.

427
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<v Speaker 5>We're welcoming to them. They're not alone.

428
00:26:11.480 --> 00:26:15.240
<v Speaker 4>They're in a place where other people have been in

429
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<v Speaker 4>that same position or somewhere close to that, or even

430
00:26:19.680 --> 00:26:25.680
<v Speaker 4>worse than that. But whenever they come into bay, everyone's

431
00:26:26.680 --> 00:26:29.759
<v Speaker 4>saying welcome home. And a lot of times you don't

432
00:26:29.799 --> 00:26:32.480
<v Speaker 4>know what kind of condition they're in, but they're in

433
00:26:32.519 --> 00:26:36.759
<v Speaker 4>a good place where people know it already. They've been

434
00:26:36.799 --> 00:26:39.160
<v Speaker 4>there and done it and have seen it.

435
00:26:40.400 --> 00:26:42.000
<v Speaker 3>And we feed them pretty well.

436
00:26:43.240 --> 00:26:44.680
<v Speaker 5>I'm getting I'm gaining weight.

437
00:26:45.680 --> 00:26:50.440
<v Speaker 3>We often call it the Camp Hope forty. Some of

438
00:26:50.480 --> 00:26:53.279
<v Speaker 3>these guys have been have not been, you know, obviously

439
00:26:53.319 --> 00:26:58.079
<v Speaker 3>taking care of themselves mental health and addictions, so whatever

440
00:26:58.119 --> 00:27:02.440
<v Speaker 3>they're self medicating. Yeah, sometimes that's about all they're doing

441
00:27:03.480 --> 00:27:07.079
<v Speaker 3>and can come in pretty rough shape. And can I

442
00:27:07.119 --> 00:27:11.000
<v Speaker 3>remember one guy had been living out near the y

443
00:27:11.880 --> 00:27:16.440
<v Speaker 3>off of two forty nine and Tomball, and I think

444
00:27:16.480 --> 00:27:20.960
<v Speaker 3>he put on literally put on fifteen pounds in two weeks.

445
00:27:22.440 --> 00:27:24.920
<v Speaker 3>I mean he was eating everything in sight because it

446
00:27:24.960 --> 00:27:27.440
<v Speaker 3>is the first time he'd eaten. And who knows how.

447
00:27:27.519 --> 00:27:29.400
<v Speaker 3>I mean, he was still skinny as real. I mean,

448
00:27:31.000 --> 00:27:33.880
<v Speaker 3>you wouldn't notice it except if you hadn't seen him

449
00:27:33.880 --> 00:27:35.720
<v Speaker 3>come in. He was in such bad shape.

450
00:27:36.079 --> 00:27:37.759
<v Speaker 5>Yes, they're in a lot of them. Come in.

451
00:27:38.440 --> 00:27:40.200
<v Speaker 4>You're not gonna see him for a couple of days

452
00:27:40.200 --> 00:27:44.119
<v Speaker 4>because there's yeah, they're worn out. Yeah, absolutely, come in,

453
00:27:44.519 --> 00:27:49.960
<v Speaker 4>got to sleep. And everybody in the bay knows knows that.

454
00:27:50.079 --> 00:27:54.519
<v Speaker 4>And crack the door open and see if they're doing okay,

455
00:27:54.759 --> 00:27:58.200
<v Speaker 4>and there's always somebody the staff coming in and checking

456
00:27:58.200 --> 00:28:02.359
<v Speaker 4>on them make sure they are not having any trouble

457
00:28:02.400 --> 00:28:02.839
<v Speaker 4>in there.

458
00:28:03.359 --> 00:28:05.119
<v Speaker 3>But you referred to it, and to me, that's one

459
00:28:05.119 --> 00:28:07.359
<v Speaker 3>of the beautiful things that happens when they walk into

460
00:28:07.359 --> 00:28:10.319
<v Speaker 3>that bay for the first time. Not only have they

461
00:28:10.359 --> 00:28:13.559
<v Speaker 3>received whatever, you know, we can supply them from our supply,

462
00:28:15.160 --> 00:28:17.160
<v Speaker 3>but everybody in the bay is like, hey man.

463
00:28:17.480 --> 00:28:18.000
<v Speaker 5>Welcome home.

464
00:28:18.359 --> 00:28:21.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we got you. Just relax, need something, tell us

465
00:28:23.039 --> 00:28:24.319
<v Speaker 3>I got an extra pair of shoes.

466
00:28:24.359 --> 00:28:26.880
<v Speaker 5>You need some shoes. If you need help with something,

467
00:28:27.400 --> 00:28:27.920
<v Speaker 5>let us know.

468
00:28:28.640 --> 00:28:32.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and again all at zero costs to the veteran

469
00:28:32.200 --> 00:28:36.000
<v Speaker 3>of their family and grateful for a wonderful community that

470
00:28:36.039 --> 00:28:38.880
<v Speaker 3>helps make that happen. All right, we're gonna have to

471
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<v Speaker 3>take a break again. Ptsd usa dot org for all

472
00:28:42.480 --> 00:28:46.640
<v Speaker 3>of the information ptsd usa dot org and we're gonna

473
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<v Speaker 3>take a quick break and be right back with more

474
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<v Speaker 3>of Road to Hope radio.

475
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<v Speaker 6>Spek and we welcome you back a little to Hope.

476
00:29:10.319 --> 00:29:14.359
<v Speaker 3>Rado got Georgian and Estates Army that current staff member

477
00:29:14.559 --> 00:29:17.079
<v Speaker 3>at Camp Hope, graduate of Camp Hope at Derek and

478
00:29:17.200 --> 00:29:23.200
<v Speaker 3>in States Army. So you served five years, so eighty

479
00:29:23.279 --> 00:29:27.519
<v Speaker 3>seven to ninety two, right, so that's been a while

480
00:29:28.720 --> 00:29:30.160
<v Speaker 3>before you got to Camp Hope.

481
00:29:30.720 --> 00:29:30.920
<v Speaker 5>Yep.

482
00:29:31.279 --> 00:29:33.480
<v Speaker 3>When did you begin to realize something was going on?

483
00:29:33.799 --> 00:29:37.680
<v Speaker 4>I worked offshore, Okay, it was my saving grace because

484
00:29:37.720 --> 00:29:41.480
<v Speaker 4>I worked a month on, month off. I could go

485
00:29:41.880 --> 00:29:45.640
<v Speaker 4>detox basically Onrick and I had to you.

486
00:29:45.839 --> 00:29:46.680
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you you.

487
00:29:47.000 --> 00:29:49.079
<v Speaker 4>I felt it when I got back to work, you know,

488
00:29:49.519 --> 00:29:53.720
<v Speaker 4>two or three days, and then got laid off during

489
00:29:54.119 --> 00:29:57.440
<v Speaker 4>COVID and I was on.

490
00:29:58.599 --> 00:30:02.519
<v Speaker 5>It was too readily of aailable for me. So I

491
00:30:02.640 --> 00:30:05.200
<v Speaker 5>ended up coming to Camp Hope. I mean I was.

492
00:30:05.319 --> 00:30:09.400
<v Speaker 4>Let you hear about camp my ex wife actually really

493
00:30:09.480 --> 00:30:11.759
<v Speaker 4>she did all the work. She did all the research,

494
00:30:12.160 --> 00:30:14.519
<v Speaker 4>and she brought me the papers thinking I was going

495
00:30:14.599 --> 00:30:16.240
<v Speaker 4>to be mad about it.

496
00:30:16.359 --> 00:30:16.880
<v Speaker 5>I wasn't.

497
00:30:17.200 --> 00:30:20.839
<v Speaker 4>I saw where I was going and filled out the paperwork, well,

498
00:30:21.160 --> 00:30:26.160
<v Speaker 4>signed everything. And luckily I have a good ex wife

499
00:30:26.200 --> 00:30:31.359
<v Speaker 4>that we still get along great even though we're divorced.

500
00:30:32.119 --> 00:30:34.920
<v Speaker 4>She still does a lot for me, and so, you know,

501
00:30:35.000 --> 00:30:38.400
<v Speaker 4>it's it's been a short time period since the divorce.

502
00:30:38.559 --> 00:30:44.279
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, usually when I talk to guys at Camp Hope,

503
00:30:44.559 --> 00:30:46.599
<v Speaker 4>it's not a good you know.

504
00:30:46.799 --> 00:30:48.680
<v Speaker 3>So you've been at camp long enough, you know that's

505
00:30:49.000 --> 00:30:50.759
<v Speaker 3>that's a blessing in your life.

506
00:30:50.920 --> 00:30:51.240
<v Speaker 5>Yes.

507
00:30:51.319 --> 00:30:55.680
<v Speaker 4>Yes, most guys there's some few choice words, yes, when

508
00:30:55.680 --> 00:30:58.039
<v Speaker 4>they go to talking about their ex wife.

509
00:30:58.599 --> 00:31:04.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it can definitely be one of the stressors that

510
00:31:04.400 --> 00:31:06.720
<v Speaker 3>leads to their need of a place like Camp Hope,

511
00:31:07.680 --> 00:31:09.519
<v Speaker 3>which is one of the reasons why when you first

512
00:31:09.519 --> 00:31:12.759
<v Speaker 3>come into the program. And I know, you know, some

513
00:31:12.799 --> 00:31:14.880
<v Speaker 3>guys come and kicking and screaming over this, but the

514
00:31:14.880 --> 00:31:18.000
<v Speaker 3>first thirty days you're blocked out from the world. I mean,

515
00:31:18.000 --> 00:31:21.519
<v Speaker 3>there's just no communication. But that's one of the reasons why.

516
00:31:21.559 --> 00:31:23.160
<v Speaker 3>It's not the only reason, but it's one of the

517
00:31:23.160 --> 00:31:23.799
<v Speaker 3>reasons why.

518
00:31:24.720 --> 00:31:24.960
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

519
00:31:25.079 --> 00:31:29.240
<v Speaker 4>And when I first came to Camp Hope, the first day,

520
00:31:29.279 --> 00:31:33.440
<v Speaker 4>I drank something before I got there, and the first

521
00:31:33.480 --> 00:31:34.960
<v Speaker 4>thing I did was.

522
00:31:37.480 --> 00:31:38.200
<v Speaker 5>Sit here blow.

523
00:31:38.680 --> 00:31:40.079
<v Speaker 3>I was going to say, did you own up to

524
00:31:40.200 --> 00:31:41.400
<v Speaker 3>that or did you try to hide it?

525
00:31:41.519 --> 00:31:45.599
<v Speaker 4>I know, I blew in the and I ended up

526
00:31:45.720 --> 00:31:47.759
<v Speaker 4>going to West for thirty days.

527
00:31:47.839 --> 00:31:51.279
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, which was all right. Yeah, it wasn't bad.

528
00:31:51.480 --> 00:31:54.279
<v Speaker 3>And and uh, that's why we have that relationship with it.

529
00:31:54.400 --> 00:31:58.000
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it prepared me for Camp Hope a little bit too.

530
00:31:58.720 --> 00:32:00.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because you gotta be your mind that they deal

531
00:32:00.920 --> 00:32:05.359
<v Speaker 3>with Camp Hope. Yes, sir, it's an intensive program.

532
00:32:04.920 --> 00:32:07.000
<v Speaker 5>Yeah and lengthy. Yeah.

533
00:32:07.000 --> 00:32:09.000
<v Speaker 4>That's why I feel for some of those guys that

534
00:32:09.119 --> 00:32:14.599
<v Speaker 4>come in. I know they're hurting and they're getting stuff

535
00:32:14.759 --> 00:32:18.400
<v Speaker 4>that you know, they're something they may not be able

536
00:32:18.440 --> 00:32:22.200
<v Speaker 4>to do because they've been out of it for so long.

537
00:32:22.759 --> 00:32:26.160
<v Speaker 4>But they quickly turn around and everything starts coming back

538
00:32:26.200 --> 00:32:30.640
<v Speaker 4>to them, you know, reading and writing about yourself and

539
00:32:32.680 --> 00:32:37.720
<v Speaker 4>the talent that comes through there too. I'm surprised to

540
00:32:37.839 --> 00:32:41.960
<v Speaker 4>hear people talk and the things they've been through and

541
00:32:42.000 --> 00:32:46.319
<v Speaker 4>did in the army or even after after military service.

542
00:32:47.640 --> 00:32:50.960
<v Speaker 5>A lot of musicians, you know.

543
00:32:51.279 --> 00:32:56.240
<v Speaker 3>Sure, we've had guys work for Fortune five hundred companies

544
00:32:56.240 --> 00:32:57.039
<v Speaker 3>coming to our program.

545
00:32:57.160 --> 00:32:57.519
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

546
00:32:57.720 --> 00:32:59.160
<v Speaker 3>I mean there's a little bit of everything.

547
00:32:59.400 --> 00:33:02.039
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, there's some people that are scary smart.

548
00:33:02.920 --> 00:33:08.440
<v Speaker 4>Yes, I keep my mouth shut sometimes when I'm around them.

549
00:33:06.880 --> 00:33:10.759
<v Speaker 5>Like, how you doing. I'll just sit here and listen

550
00:33:10.759 --> 00:33:11.319
<v Speaker 5>to you speak.

551
00:33:11.680 --> 00:33:17.519
<v Speaker 4>You got a brain that I've never I wish I

552
00:33:17.519 --> 00:33:23.000
<v Speaker 4>had half that talent, But they too fall fall.

553
00:33:22.799 --> 00:33:25.759
<v Speaker 5>Down and have to get back up. Of course, Camp

554
00:33:25.839 --> 00:33:26.400
<v Speaker 5>Hope is a.

555
00:33:26.319 --> 00:33:33.000
<v Speaker 4>Great place to uh heal and uh and learn about

556
00:33:33.839 --> 00:33:35.759
<v Speaker 4>the Bible and.

557
00:33:35.880 --> 00:33:38.680
<v Speaker 5>Uh it's a faith based system.

558
00:33:38.359 --> 00:33:42.480
<v Speaker 4>And you don't have to I mean, you can talk

559
00:33:42.559 --> 00:33:47.240
<v Speaker 4>to whatever higher power you have, and y'all make it

560
00:33:47.359 --> 00:33:50.880
<v Speaker 4>very comfortable and nobody's going to be left out.

561
00:33:50.880 --> 00:33:54.640
<v Speaker 5>Just because you know. But yeah, I'm I'm definitely a

562
00:33:54.680 --> 00:33:59.880
<v Speaker 5>believer in God and uh and.

563
00:33:59.160 --> 00:34:01.880
<v Speaker 4>I do need to learn more. I need to get

564
00:34:01.920 --> 00:34:07.359
<v Speaker 4>more familiar with the phrases. The people can sit there

565
00:34:07.400 --> 00:34:14.840
<v Speaker 4>and repeats, yeah whatever I'm trying to say. Scripture, and

566
00:34:15.000 --> 00:34:18.880
<v Speaker 4>I definitely have not got that far yet, but I'm

567
00:34:18.920 --> 00:34:22.039
<v Speaker 4>still I'm reading the Bible and it's not something that's

568
00:34:22.119 --> 00:34:27.360
<v Speaker 4>easily understood. It slowly comes to you reading those uh

569
00:34:28.280 --> 00:34:33.239
<v Speaker 4>those uh, the scriptures, and I find myself I got

570
00:34:33.239 --> 00:34:37.239
<v Speaker 4>to read them several times sure before I get get

571
00:34:37.239 --> 00:34:41.679
<v Speaker 4>the meaning of it and what I think it means.

572
00:34:42.320 --> 00:34:48.679
<v Speaker 3>What's when did you get diagnosed with PTSD.

573
00:34:49.400 --> 00:34:52.199
<v Speaker 4>Well, I'm in the process of getting diagnosed. This is

574
00:34:52.239 --> 00:34:56.800
<v Speaker 4>the first program I've been through. And wonderful counselor that

575
00:34:56.880 --> 00:35:02.679
<v Speaker 4>I'm seeing and uh, yeah, she's and it's been a while,

576
00:35:02.800 --> 00:35:04.360
<v Speaker 4>I mean sure, and.

577
00:35:04.559 --> 00:35:07.079
<v Speaker 5>It's something I've lived with.

578
00:35:08.639 --> 00:35:12.440
<v Speaker 4>For well, it's been thirty exactly thirty years since I

579
00:35:12.519 --> 00:35:15.519
<v Speaker 4>was in the military and that's like I said, working

580
00:35:15.559 --> 00:35:18.920
<v Speaker 4>offshore was a saving grace because you're with a group

581
00:35:19.000 --> 00:35:21.519
<v Speaker 4>of guys out there that you depend on.

582
00:35:22.199 --> 00:35:25.400
<v Speaker 5>You get hurt out there very quickly, and it was.

583
00:35:27.079 --> 00:35:31.320
<v Speaker 4>Good comp comp camaraderie is not the right word, but yeah,

584
00:35:32.159 --> 00:35:36.159
<v Speaker 4>and a place to heal, just to get off the

585
00:35:36.239 --> 00:35:38.679
<v Speaker 4>rig and come back home and start it all over again,

586
00:35:39.960 --> 00:35:42.480
<v Speaker 4>right until I lost the job. And there it was

587
00:35:42.519 --> 00:35:46.880
<v Speaker 4>in my face, and like I said, the wife that

588
00:35:47.039 --> 00:35:54.239
<v Speaker 4>understood that has unfortunate, unfortunate fortunately you know, found me

589
00:35:54.440 --> 00:35:58.880
<v Speaker 4>laying somewhere and telling me to just get get your

590
00:35:58.880 --> 00:36:02.599
<v Speaker 4>bud in the bed because I got a seventeen.

591
00:36:02.199 --> 00:36:02.800
<v Speaker 5>Year old son.

592
00:36:03.239 --> 00:36:07.559
<v Speaker 4>Yeah too, And it was embarrassing to me. Of course,

593
00:36:07.639 --> 00:36:13.000
<v Speaker 4>I was humiliated with myself and she she handled it well.

594
00:36:13.159 --> 00:36:17.119
<v Speaker 4>She gave me a chance. So it was really all

595
00:36:17.159 --> 00:36:20.719
<v Speaker 4>my fault. She gave me the chance, and I kept

596
00:36:20.800 --> 00:36:21.519
<v Speaker 4>on messing up.

597
00:36:22.039 --> 00:36:25.599
<v Speaker 3>What's something you're learning or have learned in your time

598
00:36:25.639 --> 00:36:26.840
<v Speaker 3>here that's helping you.

599
00:36:29.519 --> 00:36:38.760
<v Speaker 4>Self, compassion, I'm learning how to take care of myself

600
00:36:38.920 --> 00:36:43.599
<v Speaker 4>instead of trying to take care of everybody else around me.

601
00:36:43.639 --> 00:36:45.480
<v Speaker 4>I need to be able to take care of myself

602
00:36:45.519 --> 00:36:48.960
<v Speaker 4>really before I can take care of somebody else and

603
00:36:50.920 --> 00:36:55.519
<v Speaker 4>learned that I'm holding there's a more than just PTSD.

604
00:36:56.079 --> 00:37:00.840
<v Speaker 4>It's it's always is something from child childhood. Did that

605
00:37:00.920 --> 00:37:04.320
<v Speaker 4>you know they're with the counselor. I have that they

606
00:37:04.360 --> 00:37:06.079
<v Speaker 4>get it out of me and they're very.

607
00:37:05.920 --> 00:37:07.519
<v Speaker 5>Good counselors, all of them.

608
00:37:07.559 --> 00:37:13.960
<v Speaker 4>And uh, yeah, I got there and the first time

609
00:37:14.000 --> 00:37:17.400
<v Speaker 4>I talked to the counselor, there's things that I have

610
00:37:17.519 --> 00:37:20.559
<v Speaker 4>never told anybody, not my wife, not my immediately there

611
00:37:20.599 --> 00:37:25.599
<v Speaker 4>was nobody. I've been holding it inside, and uh, I

612
00:37:25.639 --> 00:37:29.039
<v Speaker 4>felt very comfortable telling her what it was. And then

613
00:37:29.079 --> 00:37:32.159
<v Speaker 4>I talked to after her, I talked to my mentor,

614
00:37:32.280 --> 00:37:34.760
<v Speaker 4>which is a Jonesy.

615
00:37:35.119 --> 00:37:37.920
<v Speaker 3>And uh very nice. Yep, you got a good one.

616
00:37:38.119 --> 00:37:40.639
<v Speaker 4>And I talked to him and told him what had

617
00:37:40.679 --> 00:37:41.480
<v Speaker 4>happened to me.

618
00:37:41.679 --> 00:37:45.679
<v Speaker 3>And uh, there's that safety that happened the camp Hope. Yeah,

619
00:37:45.800 --> 00:37:48.440
<v Speaker 3>you can open up and be vulnerable and share. So

620
00:37:48.840 --> 00:37:50.440
<v Speaker 3>he's one of the great things you get to see.

621
00:37:50.559 --> 00:37:53.000
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, even with a bunch of X out right.

622
00:37:53.079 --> 00:37:55.599
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Well, because you know a lot of shared experience,

623
00:37:55.639 --> 00:37:58.559
<v Speaker 3>there's a lot of that childhood trauma that is uh,

624
00:37:59.400 --> 00:38:02.239
<v Speaker 3>you know comes to light. Well, guys are Camp Hope man.

625
00:38:02.280 --> 00:38:06.079
<v Speaker 3>Thank you for sharing some of your story. Keep doing

626
00:38:06.079 --> 00:38:08.480
<v Speaker 3>what you're doing at camp, keep learning and keep working.

627
00:38:11.079 --> 00:38:15.320
<v Speaker 3>Your son deserves it, You deserve it. Take full advantage

628
00:38:15.360 --> 00:38:17.400
<v Speaker 3>of what's going on there. George. Great to see you

629
00:38:17.440 --> 00:38:19.519
<v Speaker 3>again again. Thank you very very much for what you're

630
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<v Speaker 3>doing to welcome these guys in. Often that very first

631
00:38:23.440 --> 00:38:27.679
<v Speaker 3>impression is so critically important for the rest of what

632
00:38:27.800 --> 00:38:30.159
<v Speaker 3>happens at Camp Hope. So thanks for doing what you do.

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<v Speaker 3>you again next week for more of Road to Hope

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