Speaker 1: Talk about.
Speaker 2: Uh, at least we're gonna start out talking about before
Speaker 2: we get to the adoption and pregnancy help the common
Speaker 2: sense as you described, a bathroom bill recently signed in
Speaker 2: a law by Governor Mike Dewain. Welcome back to the
Speaker 2: fifty five CAC morning. So, John Hohuston, it's always a
Speaker 2: pleasure speaking with you.
Speaker 1: Great to be with you this morning.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's start with an interesting thought question, shall we
Speaker 2: before we get to the details. Basically, the bathroom bill
Speaker 2: requires you know, if you when you are born, you're
Speaker 2: a signed agender X and Y chromosome. You're a guy, period,
Speaker 2: end of story. That scientific reality. So that means you
Speaker 2: can't go into a women's bathroom K through twelve and
Speaker 2: higher education. That's basically the summoned substance. You know, boys
Speaker 2: going to boys rooms, girls going to girls rooms. But
Speaker 2: transgender women means you are a X Y gender male.
Speaker 2: But believe and I'm not going to deny your belief structure,
Speaker 2: but believe yourself to be a woman. Question, John, you said,
Speaker 2: if you what test is there? This is why I
Speaker 2: justify the bill and think it's appropriate. What does it
Speaker 2: take to become a designated true transgender female. And I'm
Speaker 2: thinking about this in the context of the COVID nineteen
Speaker 2: religious exemptions for vaccines. They started asking people questions about
Speaker 2: how often they went to church, what they believed in.
Speaker 2: There was all these layers, which was totally unconstitutional. But
Speaker 2: does anybody ever ask the transgender female, did you just
Speaker 2: declare this before you went into the bathroom? Is that
Speaker 2: enough to allow you to get in the bathroom. This
Speaker 2: is the kind of problem we face because I have
Speaker 2: a daughter, and it worries the hell out of me
Speaker 2: that a guy, a forty year old guy, who just
Speaker 2: stands up one day, holds his hands up and says,
Speaker 2: I'm a transgender female. It's going to be in a
Speaker 2: bathroom with her. You know what I'm saying, Amen, I do.
Speaker 1: It is really unbelievable that we're at a point in
Speaker 1: the world where we actually need a law like this,
Speaker 1: where it says to you know, if you're a biological
Speaker 1: man at birth, then you will go to the boys
Speaker 1: or men's bathroom, and likewise if you're a female. That
Speaker 1: is common sense. That is what I mean. For all
Speaker 1: of my life fifty seven now and all of my
Speaker 1: life up until what five ten years ago, like this
Speaker 1: was how we all like, no one questioned that this
Speaker 1: is what we should do, right, and now all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, now, all of a sudden, we think men
Speaker 1: can play women's sports, they can undress in their locker rooms,
Speaker 1: they can use their bathrooms, forty year old men going
Speaker 1: into the same bathroom with a ten year old girl,
Speaker 1: not you know, your teenage daughters not having a private
Speaker 1: space to I mean, it's just all of these kinds
Speaker 1: of things that literally we have a section of society
Speaker 1: that believes that that the whole world, a whole history
Speaker 1: of humanity should be changed over how someone views their
Speaker 1: gender in their mind.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, and it makes it and it makes
Speaker 2: it worse because you know, it's one thing because okay,
Speaker 2: someone might say, well, there's a stall and you're not
Speaker 2: going to be looking at someone's junk or whatever. This
Speaker 2: includes showers, this is locker rooms, this is.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm telling you you I wouldn't. I was, actually,
Speaker 1: you know, I was in disbelief that this was happening,
Speaker 1: Like I was. It was hard to believe. But I
Speaker 1: remember my one of the conversations I had with Riley Gains,
Speaker 1: the Kentucky swimmer who has been really outspoken on this
Speaker 1: because she'd lost she'd lost a a NCAA championship to
Speaker 1: a man who claimed to be a woman and swam
Speaker 1: in a women's meat in NCAA let him happen. She
Speaker 1: said that she was in the locker room with this
Speaker 1: man who had full male gentle talia, yeah, and was
Speaker 1: in the locker room undressing and is going to swim
Speaker 1: in the women's meat. And like, how in the world
Speaker 1: adults around this process could ever come to conclusion that
Speaker 1: that was okay, that this was that the whole rest
Speaker 1: of the world should change and accommodate. That really is
Speaker 1: what led to the need for these laws.
Speaker 2: Well, and I'm glad they're in place in Ohio now.
Speaker 2: Now the other component of this, and it's something that's
Speaker 2: quite often overlooked. I think the presumption the arguments from
Speaker 2: you know, those who are going to appeal this law,
Speaker 2: like the ACLU and the LGBT activist group were going
Speaker 2: to claim it's unconstitutional or something. The idea of a
Speaker 2: transgender woman again, a guy believing in his heart or
Speaker 2: her heart of hearts whatever that they are. Indeed, a
Speaker 2: woman does not, in any way, shape or form determine
Speaker 2: what their sexual proclivities are. In other words, they could
Speaker 2: be attracted to women even though they identify as a woman.
Speaker 2: Meaning there is a forty five year old guy with
Speaker 2: full junk in the locker room and it's still attracted
Speaker 2: to women. That's the creepy part. Now, I know I've
Speaker 2: been in bathrooms. I'm fifty nine, so a little bit
Speaker 2: older than you, and I'm sure that all throughout my
Speaker 2: life there have been gay men in the bathroom. Never
Speaker 2: had an issue, no problem, never been molested or attack.
Speaker 2: But I'm also in a better position to defend myself
Speaker 2: because I'm a little bit on equal footing with them.
Speaker 2: As you point out with Riley Gaines, men have a
Speaker 2: substantial size and strength advantage over women generally speaking, putting
Speaker 2: women at a significant disadvantage if they're in a situation
Speaker 2: where they're someone's trying to molest them in the in
Speaker 2: the girl's bathroom.
Speaker 1: Yes, and look, there are plenty of ways that we
Speaker 1: because I acknowledge that, Okay, there's a small percentage of
Speaker 1: people who have gender identity issue. Yes, that in a bucket,
Speaker 1: call it what you want, okay, And there are you know,
Speaker 1: we have men's restrooms, we have women's restrooms, and then
Speaker 1: we have these single use family restrooms or where where
Speaker 1: where an individual can go into those and change or
Speaker 1: go to the bathroom do and those are perfectly appropriate
Speaker 1: accommodations for somebody in that situation, but the rest of
Speaker 1: the world should not have to accommodate something that makes
Speaker 1: them feel uncomfortable or threatens their privacy. And so this
Speaker 1: is a very common sense way to deal with the
Speaker 1: issue in my opinion. And look, this is as you
Speaker 1: well know, the whole issue of transgender surgeries and treatment
Speaker 1: for minors was before the US Supreme Court yesterday challenging
Speaker 1: a Tennessee law that's similar to the Ohio law. You know,
Speaker 1: the idea, because we're learning more all the time about
Speaker 1: the the fact that there are young people who've been
Speaker 1: persuaded to have these gender trans uh transgender surgeries and
Speaker 1: chemical hormonal treatments, who had them as a youth and
Speaker 1: now as adults, really regret having done that because they
Speaker 1: were just confused. They might have been gay, but they
Speaker 1: were not transgender. Somehow the medical professionals or the adults
Speaker 1: in their lives persuaded them to do this, and now
Speaker 1: they have irreversible situation as adults. And so this is
Speaker 1: this is an issue about protecting everybody. They might giving
Speaker 1: giving transgender individuals, particularly children, accommodations, but let's not go
Speaker 1: too far with this, particularly with kids.
Speaker 2: And I'm not certain and I do not believe it
Speaker 2: is the town of counter of John Howston that it
Speaker 2: is the considered medical standard of care to start giving youth,
Speaker 2: you know, pre pubescent youth gender hormone surge replacements to
Speaker 2: keep them from advancing into puberty or otherwise lopping things
Speaker 2: off or sewing things on. That is a dispute within
Speaker 2: the medical community.
Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, and there's a lot of evidence, a lot
Speaker 1: of evidence that it's in the aggregate doing more harm
Speaker 1: than good. And understand like not to get into them.
Speaker 1: I'm not a doctor, but i will share I've done
Speaker 1: a lot of reading and listen to a lot of
Speaker 1: smart people on this topic who will tell you that
Speaker 1: if you do this to a child and they do
Speaker 1: not go through puberty, that is an irreversible situation for
Speaker 1: them as an adult. And let adults make those decisions.
Speaker 1: Don't have adults making them for children, particularly at very
Speaker 1: very young ages, which was where we're seeing a lot
Speaker 1: of this happening.
Speaker 2: Amen, then Goo and who said, let's pivot over to
Speaker 2: something positive and what we're doing here in the state
Speaker 2: of Ohio. And I know you have a personal connection
Speaker 2: with the idea that you know they're in. There are
Speaker 2: unplanned pregnancies in the world, and we need to help
Speaker 2: support those women in all way shapes and forms this
Speaker 2: National Adoption Month. And I know you're an outspoken advocate
Speaker 2: for adoption on this. You want to explain to my
Speaker 2: listeners how it is that you have such a close connection.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, I was. I was adopted. I started out
Speaker 1: life in a foster home. My birth mother had had
Speaker 1: two children and lost her husband in Vietnam, and then
Speaker 1: became pregnant and didn't couldn't afford another mouth to feed
Speaker 1: and decided to have an adoption. And I started out
Speaker 1: life in a foster home and then had the greatest
Speaker 1: blessing that could have ever happened to me. Two great parents,
Speaker 1: my mom and dad, Jim and Judy Houston, adopted me.
Speaker 1: And so this is very near and dear to my
Speaker 1: heart because I know that foster care and adoption changed lives,
Speaker 1: not just the lives and children, but every adult who
Speaker 1: tells you that they've done it will say it changed
Speaker 1: our life too. Having this child in our lives made
Speaker 1: it more purposeful and meaningful, and so everything that we
Speaker 1: can do to promote adoption. We have over three thousand
Speaker 1: kids in foster care right now, waiting for a forever home,
Speaker 1: and we want to support that and we want to
Speaker 1: do all we can to support adoption and foster care
Speaker 1: because there's so many kids who, through no fault of
Speaker 1: their own, find themselves in just a terrible situation and
Speaker 1: they need the love of adults. I mean, I will
Speaker 1: tell you this, I tell that story. It's not really
Speaker 1: about me. It's about how an adult can change the
Speaker 1: life of a child and give them a chance that
Speaker 1: they would have never had before.
Speaker 2: I mean, think about that. I'm talking with the Lieutenant
Speaker 2: governor of the state of Ohio who came from a
Speaker 2: foster home and was adopted. What an amazing thing. I mean,
Speaker 2: your life is completely transformed, you know what. I think
Speaker 2: there needs to be greater advocacy for adoption, and we
Speaker 2: hear about adoption from time to time, and I'm glad
Speaker 2: you're elevating it to this level of discussion we're having
Speaker 2: here on the Morning Show. But you know, planned parenthood
Speaker 2: is everywhere they promote abortion. They suggest, oh, you have
Speaker 2: to get an abortion, You're never gonna you shouldn't bring
Speaker 2: that baby into full full term, you shouldn't have it.
Speaker 2: They're like constantly all over the place, just scream in
Speaker 2: that tune you know, wonder you wonder where the chorus
Speaker 2: is of Wait, a second adoption is a wonderful option,
Speaker 2: and great things come from families who adopt young people
Speaker 2: that are in need of a home.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Look, there are local women's and pregnancy centers because look,
Speaker 1: we had a constitutional amendment in Ohio. Abortions are allowed
Speaker 1: under the Ohio Constitution now basically you know, I mean
Speaker 1: it's one of the most expansive abortion laws in the country. Now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and so we have to change hearts and minds. It's
Speaker 1: our only path right now. And so no, if you're
Speaker 1: a man who's involved with this, a woman who's involved
Speaker 1: with this, the parent, somebody, that there is support out
Speaker 1: there through these women's and pregnancy centers. They're just the
Speaker 1: women I've met, particularly women I've met who run these things,
Speaker 1: who run these pregnancy centers, they are there for you.
Speaker 1: They will help you through this process. They will make
Speaker 1: sure that you're getting the healthcare before your baby's born,
Speaker 1: that they have a plan for you to make sure
Speaker 1: you have the resources you need to support a healthy
Speaker 1: start for that baby, and connect you with the resources
Speaker 1: are out there. You're not alone in this. You're not alone.
Speaker 1: There are people who want to help you have a healthy.
Speaker 2: Baby, truly there are, and the resources are available. Sometimes
Speaker 2: you just have to search for them. And because quite
Speaker 2: often the other side has a much better advocacy thing
Speaker 2: going on for you as.
Speaker 1: Your local pregnancy center. For the most part, if you
Speaker 1: go into a search engine, you say, you know, try
Speaker 1: to find a local pregnancy center, pregnancy center closest to me.
Speaker 1: You can also use search words like adoption or support
Speaker 1: for you know, young mothers, and you'll find it out there.
Speaker 1: They're they're all. They're located all across the state. They
Speaker 1: don't have they don't have the promotional budget that Planned
Speaker 1: Parenthood does, but they are out there. I've visited many
Speaker 1: of them across the state. These are these are angels
Speaker 1: who run this. They do not judge you. They do
Speaker 1: not They do not say, you know, this is what
Speaker 1: you should do with your life. They meet you where
Speaker 1: you are, they say Okay, you're in this spot. Let's
Speaker 1: help you. They wrap their arms around you, love you,
Speaker 1: care about you, and show you a way forward and
Speaker 1: know that that resource is out there for you.
Speaker 2: Tennant Conor Johnny, So thank you for your advocacy for
Speaker 2: adoption and for women having their babies and noting that
Speaker 2: there are the resources out there. And I certainly appreciate
Speaker 2: your support for a common sense build. It is now
Speaker 2: the law in the state of Ohio. It's good to
Speaker 2: have you on the fifty five CARC Morning Show, sir.
Speaker 2: Keep up the great work.
Speaker 1: Thanks, Brian, appreciate it.
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