WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:02.720 Dirty hands means queen theology. 2 00:00:03.120 --> 00:00:07.400 Can you dig it? What is going on? 3 00:00:07.599 --> 00:00:12.119 All my local guys and gals and long distance pials. 4 00:00:12.679 --> 00:00:16.760 We are back, indeed indeed. 5 00:00:17.359 --> 00:00:20.440 Still missing our our friendly neighborhood sasquatch. 6 00:00:20.600 --> 00:00:23.160 But you know we didn't get the memo. 7 00:00:23.640 --> 00:00:29.679 I did. I fired. Yeah, he's been hiding in the 8 00:00:29.679 --> 00:00:36.079 woods too long, but missing Ben as always, that seems. 9 00:00:36.320 --> 00:00:41.039 But keep pushing on, keep plugging in. I'm excited, man, 10 00:00:41.119 --> 00:00:44.000 this is this is always fun. You know, every time 11 00:00:44.039 --> 00:00:47.359 we get together, we get to talk. I learned more, 12 00:00:48.119 --> 00:00:54.079 I grow. You know, my faith has been monumentally bolstered 13 00:00:54.079 --> 00:00:56.880 by doing this show, by being around the people that 14 00:00:56.920 --> 00:00:59.479 we've met, people that we talked to, and everybody's got 15 00:00:59.479 --> 00:01:00.200 something different. 16 00:01:00.079 --> 00:01:02.039 To bring to the table, and. 17 00:01:03.320 --> 00:01:06.599 We won't dive into it yet, but our guest today 18 00:01:06.799 --> 00:01:10.359 is definitely another one of those guys. So justin if 19 00:01:10.359 --> 00:01:12.239 you'd like to kick us off with some prayer. 20 00:01:12.920 --> 00:01:19.040 Yeah, sure, Dear kind and gracious heavenly Father, thank you 21 00:01:19.120 --> 00:01:22.640 for today, and thank you for all the many blessings 22 00:01:22.640 --> 00:01:26.599 that you give, because each and every single one is 23 00:01:27.359 --> 00:01:30.480 a blessing beyond what we have earned. And I've said 24 00:01:30.480 --> 00:01:34.719 it many times. Thank God, thank you for not giving 25 00:01:34.879 --> 00:01:37.680 us what we deserve, because we deserve death and destruction, 26 00:01:38.879 --> 00:01:42.920 and just so thankful for that and for every single 27 00:01:42.920 --> 00:01:46.000 breath we take because our promised Father, we take that 28 00:01:46.000 --> 00:01:49.599 for granted. Thank you for this time together and fellowship. 29 00:01:49.680 --> 00:01:55.200 Thank you for giving us a platform to discuss your word, 30 00:01:56.439 --> 00:02:03.359 your effects and movements through people's lives, and just living 31 00:02:03.359 --> 00:02:05.840 in a free country to dive through your word and 32 00:02:05.879 --> 00:02:11.159 do these things. Father, We're grateful and also just thankful 33 00:02:11.199 --> 00:02:14.039 for all the listeners that bring us into their homes. 34 00:02:14.639 --> 00:02:17.800 You know, me and Steve take for granted a lot 35 00:02:17.840 --> 00:02:20.240 of times that you know, we are trusted to come 36 00:02:20.280 --> 00:02:22.479 into people's homes and fellowship with them and their family. 37 00:02:22.479 --> 00:02:25.919 We're thankful for that. We pray blessing over the listener's 38 00:02:25.960 --> 00:02:31.719 father and that our words be edified you. But we 39 00:02:31.800 --> 00:02:34.479 just thank you, Father. I'm just I know I've said 40 00:02:34.520 --> 00:02:37.360 that several times, but i am. I'm just thankful Father, 41 00:02:37.400 --> 00:02:38.879 Thank you in Jesus name. 42 00:02:38.919 --> 00:02:45.240 Amen, Amen, love it, love it. It's like you know 43 00:02:45.280 --> 00:02:47.400 where two or three are gathering his name. He's in 44 00:02:47.400 --> 00:02:49.000 the midst of you and I you know you feel 45 00:02:49.039 --> 00:02:52.120 them come in when when you get together to talk 46 00:02:52.159 --> 00:02:52.960 about things like this. 47 00:02:53.080 --> 00:02:53.800 It's powerful. 48 00:02:53.879 --> 00:02:59.199 So yeah, in today's episode, Man, I'm excited for because 49 00:02:59.520 --> 00:03:01.080 we tell you you guys all the time. 50 00:03:02.120 --> 00:03:02.919 If you got a. 51 00:03:03.439 --> 00:03:07.599 Testimony, if you got a story, you know, whether it's 52 00:03:07.599 --> 00:03:12.080 a supernatural testimony or how God's working in your life, 53 00:03:12.199 --> 00:03:14.319 or if you're a researcher an author, you know. 54 00:03:14.280 --> 00:03:15.319 Hey, reach out to us. 55 00:03:15.400 --> 00:03:17.360 You know, our email is you know, the dig four 56 00:03:17.360 --> 00:03:19.680 two three at gmail dot com. We'd love to hear 57 00:03:19.719 --> 00:03:23.080 from you, have you on the show. And this is 58 00:03:23.120 --> 00:03:25.639 a direct result of that. So you know, we get 59 00:03:25.680 --> 00:03:28.039 a few emails from time to time, but this is 60 00:03:28.080 --> 00:03:32.879 honestly the first or maybe second time. It's it's I 61 00:03:32.919 --> 00:03:35.639 can counted on one hand that an actual listener reached 62 00:03:35.639 --> 00:03:38.159 out to us and we're bringing them on the show today. 63 00:03:38.159 --> 00:03:38.960 So I'm excited. 64 00:03:39.960 --> 00:03:42.000 Mmm, I'm excited. 65 00:03:42.840 --> 00:03:45.439 Well, if you want to go ahead, introduce our guests 66 00:03:46.800 --> 00:03:50.159 and uh, let's see where this, this this crazy ride 67 00:03:50.240 --> 00:03:50.919 takes us today. 68 00:03:51.919 --> 00:03:53.360 Oh yeah, sure. Yeah. 69 00:03:53.400 --> 00:03:55.439 Like I said, I was going through the emails and 70 00:03:55.719 --> 00:03:59.960 how to eat email from a listener and was explaining 71 00:04:00.120 --> 00:04:01.919 how they've been listening to the show and digging in. 72 00:04:01.960 --> 00:04:05.240 They've been enjoying it and they had just finished a 73 00:04:05.479 --> 00:04:09.479 project and that they were a writer and they wanted 74 00:04:09.520 --> 00:04:12.120 to share the work with me and take a look 75 00:04:12.159 --> 00:04:14.759 at it. And I was like, well, sure, you know, 76 00:04:14.919 --> 00:04:17.279 and I was, you know, in my mind, I'm thinking, oh, well, 77 00:04:17.319 --> 00:04:22.360 we have another cool Nephelon you know story or Genesis 78 00:04:22.399 --> 00:04:25.079 six kind of thing, and it's kind of in that vein. 79 00:04:25.360 --> 00:04:28.120 But he's like, no, I do comic books. And I 80 00:04:28.160 --> 00:04:31.160 was like, oh, all right, man, And he's like, I 81 00:04:31.240 --> 00:04:33.319 just wrote this book called Five Stones. 82 00:04:33.759 --> 00:04:34.079 He said. 83 00:04:34.160 --> 00:04:35.920 It's in comic book for him. He said, it's the 84 00:04:35.959 --> 00:04:38.439 story of David and Goliath. He said, but with all 85 00:04:38.439 --> 00:04:42.720 the scripture tied in and the weird things that they're 86 00:04:42.759 --> 00:04:46.399 not talking about behind the pull pit. And I was like, yeah, man, definitely. 87 00:04:46.439 --> 00:04:49.000 So he was kind enough to send this over to me. 88 00:04:49.079 --> 00:04:52.839 Here's the front cover, guys, and it's got all kinds 89 00:04:52.879 --> 00:04:54.319 of just awesome artwork. 90 00:04:54.399 --> 00:04:54.600 Man. 91 00:04:54.800 --> 00:04:59.240 You know, if you have young adult kids, teenagers, or 92 00:04:59.279 --> 00:05:03.000 even teenagers at heart, they're gonna love this thing. But 93 00:05:03.120 --> 00:05:05.519 I'd like to just welcome to the show and talk 94 00:05:05.600 --> 00:05:08.879 about this topic. And his new book is Adam Ferris. Adam, 95 00:05:08.920 --> 00:05:11.000 thank you man. I appreciate the book and your time 96 00:05:11.079 --> 00:05:12.800 to come talk to us. 97 00:05:13.360 --> 00:05:15.839 Yeah, yeah, thank you very much for bringing me on. 98 00:05:16.000 --> 00:05:19.040 Pretty surreal to be on here now from just listening 99 00:05:19.040 --> 00:05:21.959 to you guys, be honest with you, pretty crazy. 100 00:05:23.040 --> 00:05:25.800 Listen, man, I've never I've never written a comic book, 101 00:05:25.839 --> 00:05:28.240 so it's surreal talking to a comic book guy. I mean, 102 00:05:28.279 --> 00:05:31.560 you got to think about this, and the only difference 103 00:05:31.839 --> 00:05:34.439 is that you know, we're all doing what we're called 104 00:05:34.480 --> 00:05:34.639 to do. 105 00:05:34.759 --> 00:05:39.959 Right, That's right. Yeah, that's that's exactly right. That's exactly right. 106 00:05:41.439 --> 00:05:44.319 So yeah, I just want you to open up and 107 00:05:44.399 --> 00:05:47.920 kind of kind of give us a background of where 108 00:05:47.920 --> 00:05:49.759 you come from and how you got to hear. 109 00:05:50.120 --> 00:05:55.199 Okay, so so real quick, you know, Adam Ferris, appreciate 110 00:05:55.279 --> 00:06:01.279 the introduction, appreciate interest in the book to raise Pentecostal 111 00:06:01.360 --> 00:06:06.800 Christian about seventeen left the church and you know, went 112 00:06:06.839 --> 00:06:10.399 through the life and stuff like that. Well we get 113 00:06:10.439 --> 00:06:14.319 to the end of twenty twenty two. At that point, 114 00:06:14.319 --> 00:06:18.199 I've been a distribution center manager for about fourteen years. 115 00:06:18.879 --> 00:06:24.519 Career guy, career focus, got wife, kids, mortgage, you know, 116 00:06:24.720 --> 00:06:28.879 doing the thing, and was at this point in my 117 00:06:29.000 --> 00:06:34.360 career I was managing union and it was really wearing 118 00:06:34.439 --> 00:06:36.279 me out. For the people that are on the other 119 00:06:36.319 --> 00:06:40.120 side of union, they'll feel me pretty is beat me up. 120 00:06:40.319 --> 00:06:43.120 And I was getting some career fatigue and kind of 121 00:06:43.199 --> 00:06:46.720 questioning things and you know, just going through it in 122 00:06:46.759 --> 00:06:52.800 my forties, so I guess that's normal. So coincidentally, listening 123 00:06:52.839 --> 00:06:56.959 to a lot of the stoic stuff, you know, Jordan Peterson, 124 00:06:57.480 --> 00:07:02.079 you know, just learning, you know, and the point was, 125 00:07:02.120 --> 00:07:05.079 you know, I was born and raised Christian, but at 126 00:07:05.079 --> 00:07:07.639 this point, you know, I'm an adult. We're not active. 127 00:07:07.720 --> 00:07:10.120 I'm just kind of just going through life and whatnot. 128 00:07:11.360 --> 00:07:15.319 So Jordan Peterson had an interesting quote. It was talking 129 00:07:15.319 --> 00:07:18.639 about strength, and he was talking about you really want 130 00:07:18.639 --> 00:07:21.680 to be strong, be the strongest man, to be the 131 00:07:21.720 --> 00:07:24.439 strongest person. As your father's funeral. I don't know if 132 00:07:24.439 --> 00:07:28.879 you've guys heard that quote, but coincidentally it stood out 133 00:07:29.360 --> 00:07:31.879 to me, and you know, I went to work, was 134 00:07:31.920 --> 00:07:33.759 telling my guys that work, oh yeah, you know, donad 135 00:07:33.759 --> 00:07:36.040 I'll talking about strength. I was just trying to you know, 136 00:07:36.639 --> 00:07:40.959 build my team and whatnot. Well, about a week or 137 00:07:41.000 --> 00:07:46.959 two later, my father passed, so obviously I figured out why, 138 00:07:47.399 --> 00:07:49.839 you know, why I heard that. You know, God had 139 00:07:49.879 --> 00:07:53.800 put that in my path clearly, and it was one 140 00:07:53.800 --> 00:07:57.079 of those things where I was, I was there, you know, 141 00:07:57.160 --> 00:07:58.720 I got the call I had to come to the 142 00:07:58.759 --> 00:08:02.160 hospital and be with him, and was there with my mother, 143 00:08:02.319 --> 00:08:04.279 and then you know, we went back to the house 144 00:08:04.319 --> 00:08:07.279 and we got the phone call, please come back. He 145 00:08:07.319 --> 00:08:11.079 didn't make it, And uh, what do you do? You know, 146 00:08:11.439 --> 00:08:14.079 I'm the youngest, I'm I've got a older brother, I've 147 00:08:14.120 --> 00:08:16.759 got a not a big family, not really super close, 148 00:08:17.680 --> 00:08:20.000 and I'm two hours away, you know, my my wife 149 00:08:20.040 --> 00:08:22.519 and kids here at house. I'm I'm in Lynchburg, And 150 00:08:22.639 --> 00:08:25.879 uh what do you do? You're right there at it, 151 00:08:26.079 --> 00:08:31.120 You're right there facing it. So all that kept going 152 00:08:31.160 --> 00:08:33.960 through my head was that Jordan Peterson quote. And then 153 00:08:34.039 --> 00:08:37.480 you know, I think I think I even emailed. I 154 00:08:37.519 --> 00:08:39.519 know he probably never saw it, but I emailed Jordan 155 00:08:39.559 --> 00:08:42.080 Peterson was like, man, your quote got me through it. Man. 156 00:08:42.639 --> 00:08:46.399 But but yeah, I just I sucked it up, was 157 00:08:46.440 --> 00:08:49.039 there for my mom. You know, got through the funeral 158 00:08:49.159 --> 00:08:56.720 was impossibly difficult, having to pick out things and not ball. 159 00:08:56.759 --> 00:08:58.320 You know, I just had to be the rock. So 160 00:08:58.360 --> 00:09:01.919 I got through it, got my family through it, and 161 00:09:01.960 --> 00:09:04.480 then of course I started cracking. You know. It was 162 00:09:04.559 --> 00:09:07.360 probably two or three months into it, we went to 163 00:09:07.399 --> 00:09:12.919 Disneyland and it just it just smashed me and a 164 00:09:13.000 --> 00:09:18.799 lot of stuff obviously started piling up, and then I 165 00:09:18.840 --> 00:09:20.279 just had to take a take a little bit of 166 00:09:20.279 --> 00:09:22.600 time off. It took two months off to just clear 167 00:09:22.679 --> 00:09:25.200 my head, and it was it was super tough. And 168 00:09:26.320 --> 00:09:30.240 a job opportunity came across and it was absolutely perfect. 169 00:09:30.480 --> 00:09:33.879 Absolutely point of all this was like, I've never done 170 00:09:33.960 --> 00:09:36.159 comic books or anything. I was just a career guy 171 00:09:36.360 --> 00:09:39.320 at this point, one hundred percent never done anything like 172 00:09:39.360 --> 00:09:43.720 this in my life. So anyways, job opportunity comes across 173 00:09:43.759 --> 00:09:47.720 and it's perfect, has has uh a lot of opportunities 174 00:09:48.279 --> 00:09:50.679 for me, for my family. Just it was perfect. And 175 00:09:50.720 --> 00:09:56.840 I'll explain. But and I knew that it was from God. 176 00:09:56.879 --> 00:09:58.840 I just I could tell. I just and I said, 177 00:09:58.879 --> 00:10:03.360 you know what, I feel like you've been knocking. I 178 00:10:03.399 --> 00:10:05.559 feel like this has been going on for a while. 179 00:10:06.759 --> 00:10:11.679 I'm down. Whatever it is. You know, I I'm the 180 00:10:11.720 --> 00:10:14.000 guy now, my father's past. You know, I've got a 181 00:10:14.039 --> 00:10:17.279 lot of responsibility. Now let's do it. Let's do it. 182 00:10:17.320 --> 00:10:21.519 Whatever it is, whatever it is, we'll do it. So 183 00:10:23.240 --> 00:10:25.480 he got a backtrack of hair. I forgot to mention. 184 00:10:25.679 --> 00:10:29.639 So right around like right before my father passed, writing 185 00:10:29.799 --> 00:10:33.240 was was really on my heart for some odd reason. 186 00:10:33.480 --> 00:10:36.840 Obviously I can't say odd because we know why, but 187 00:10:36.879 --> 00:10:38.480 it was, it was really really on my heart. And 188 00:10:38.480 --> 00:10:40.279 that was when I was going through trying to figure 189 00:10:40.320 --> 00:10:43.519 stuff out, and I was googling how to write a 190 00:10:43.559 --> 00:10:46.120 script because just I just I could. I just want 191 00:10:46.120 --> 00:10:49.519 to write for some reason. And then every once in 192 00:10:49.600 --> 00:10:53.399 a while I would have this thought of like David Glythe, 193 00:10:53.679 --> 00:10:56.519 like just that would just you know, you'd be doing something. 194 00:10:56.519 --> 00:10:59.759 I'd be doing something, and just David Glithe, I didn't 195 00:10:59.759 --> 00:11:02.720 know what it was. So anyway, so there I am. 196 00:11:03.039 --> 00:11:07.240 I've done, I've done giving in told God, I'm down. 197 00:11:07.559 --> 00:11:10.080 So then I start trying to figure out what it 198 00:11:10.200 --> 00:11:15.039 is that I can do, and and I think about 199 00:11:15.240 --> 00:11:17.639 Aaron and Moses, and you know, at this time was 200 00:11:17.679 --> 00:11:19.759 because I didn't feel like I had a voice. I 201 00:11:19.799 --> 00:11:21.600 didn't know what I could do. I had no idea. 202 00:11:22.159 --> 00:11:24.200 I don't I mean, if I was led to be 203 00:11:24.240 --> 00:11:26.120 a preacher, I would be I don't feel like that's 204 00:11:26.240 --> 00:11:28.720 that's who I am. So it was like what I 205 00:11:28.799 --> 00:11:31.879 what can I do. So, you know, I started thinking 206 00:11:31.919 --> 00:11:36.320 about what I enjoy, which is MCU. I'm a big 207 00:11:36.399 --> 00:11:38.879 comic book guy, like to Marvel movies. I was thinking 208 00:11:38.879 --> 00:11:41.879 about that, and then I was thinking about how there's 209 00:11:41.960 --> 00:11:44.799 not a lot of really good content out there in 210 00:11:44.840 --> 00:11:47.600 that in that light, and then I started thinking about 211 00:11:47.639 --> 00:11:49.840 the whole Dave and Goliath thing. So I'm like, all right, well, 212 00:11:49.840 --> 00:11:51.519 I guess that's what you've been telling me to do. 213 00:11:53.039 --> 00:11:57.240 Let's do it. So yeah, I just had to. I 214 00:11:57.360 --> 00:11:59.799 had to. I had to figure it all out, the 215 00:12:00.120 --> 00:12:02.159 entire step. And there's a lot of crazy stuff that 216 00:12:02.200 --> 00:12:04.440 I do want to share with you guys, with things 217 00:12:04.440 --> 00:12:07.440 that happened through this of what I learned. So but 218 00:12:07.559 --> 00:12:11.320 just in a nutshell, yeah, my father passed a really 219 00:12:11.399 --> 00:12:14.559 hard time in my life, and and and the calling 220 00:12:14.759 --> 00:12:17.960 was to put the word out and that the form 221 00:12:18.000 --> 00:12:19.320 that it took was a comic book. 222 00:12:22.000 --> 00:12:26.120 That's powerful, man. You always It's something that I like 223 00:12:26.200 --> 00:12:29.120 to always make sure people understand is that everybody has 224 00:12:29.159 --> 00:12:34.759 a testimony, right, everybody does. So whatever that testimony is, 225 00:12:34.840 --> 00:12:37.919 and some people can say there's this, there's a small there, 226 00:12:38.000 --> 00:12:39.960 they can say that it's it's not that big a deal. 227 00:12:40.080 --> 00:12:42.000 Or they can have gone through something like you said, 228 00:12:42.000 --> 00:12:44.559 something very difficult that brought you to where you are, 229 00:12:45.240 --> 00:12:50.360 and God can use very terrible things and bring something 230 00:12:50.399 --> 00:12:54.399 amazing out of it on the other end. But when 231 00:12:54.440 --> 00:12:58.320 you talk about this and you bring out your testimony, 232 00:12:58.360 --> 00:13:00.679 I think it's so important that people hear this because 233 00:13:00.679 --> 00:13:03.159 they have to understand that when they feel those nudges, 234 00:13:03.200 --> 00:13:08.000 when they feel that push, there's a reason, like don't 235 00:13:08.039 --> 00:13:11.320 ignore it. The Holy Spirit pushes on you, and the 236 00:13:11.320 --> 00:13:13.200 more that you ignore it, the more that you kind 237 00:13:13.240 --> 00:13:17.960 of hide behind that. All you're doing is postponing what 238 00:13:18.360 --> 00:13:20.600 God's plan is for you, how He can use you. 239 00:13:20.679 --> 00:13:22.759 And that's really our whole calling in our life. I mean, 240 00:13:22.759 --> 00:13:26.639 that's that whole ax lifestyle. It's the Great Commission all 241 00:13:26.639 --> 00:13:31.840 over again. If God's pushed you to do something, and 242 00:13:31.960 --> 00:13:34.559 God's put things into your life that have inspired you, 243 00:13:34.799 --> 00:13:37.120 whether they're positive or negative, but they have inspired you 244 00:13:37.159 --> 00:13:41.759 one way or the other, don't hesitate. 245 00:13:42.679 --> 00:13:43.279 Jump on that. 246 00:13:43.399 --> 00:13:45.720 So I commend you on that. I think that's a 247 00:13:45.759 --> 00:13:48.919 pretty awesome thing that you followed through on what God's 248 00:13:48.960 --> 00:13:51.159 plan is for you. And the crazy part is what 249 00:13:51.200 --> 00:13:53.759 God's plan is for you today in two months. It 250 00:13:53.759 --> 00:13:57.320 could be something totally different. So you just have to 251 00:13:57.360 --> 00:13:59.519 be you have to be ready, you have to be 252 00:13:59.559 --> 00:14:01.960 aware and have to be listening. You pray and you listen. 253 00:14:02.000 --> 00:14:05.080 You pray and you listen. But I commend you on that. 254 00:14:05.200 --> 00:14:06.399 So I think that's pretty awesome. 255 00:14:07.519 --> 00:14:11.200 I appreciate that. It was. It was crazy, you know. 256 00:14:11.399 --> 00:14:15.159 So yeah, you just you get this calling like to 257 00:14:15.519 --> 00:14:18.159 your point, and you either do it or you don't. 258 00:14:18.240 --> 00:14:20.360 It's something that I've really learned through all this is 259 00:14:20.480 --> 00:14:26.320 like the the the gravity of not you know, that's 260 00:14:26.519 --> 00:14:30.080 that's something that like unless you like really really deep 261 00:14:30.120 --> 00:14:34.159 into study and you know in your personal relationship with God, 262 00:14:34.200 --> 00:14:38.639 you may not know that. But to not act on faith, 263 00:14:38.919 --> 00:14:42.720 to not do what you're called to do again, I 264 00:14:42.919 --> 00:14:46.240 I was told to write the David and Glith book 265 00:14:46.240 --> 00:14:48.519 on purpose, I believe because of the story of faith, 266 00:14:48.559 --> 00:14:51.120 because of what we're talking about, because of these conversations, 267 00:14:51.159 --> 00:14:56.799 because that's thousand percent the story, the point of that story. 268 00:14:56.799 --> 00:15:01.240 But like the gravity of that and yeah, yeah, to 269 00:15:01.279 --> 00:15:04.759 not follow through or to be like Gideon and keep 270 00:15:04.799 --> 00:15:08.559 asking for uh another signs and then it comes back 271 00:15:08.600 --> 00:15:10.200 and it's like, all right, well, you only going in 272 00:15:10.200 --> 00:15:13.360 with three hundred now. And that's something that kept playing 273 00:15:13.399 --> 00:15:15.360 through my head this whole time, because there's a there's 274 00:15:15.399 --> 00:15:20.559 a one time that I asked, wasn't you know? 275 00:15:22.720 --> 00:15:25.240 Yeah? 276 00:15:25.639 --> 00:15:28.559 Yeah, absolutely, man. You know what, I'm gonna tell you what, 277 00:15:29.200 --> 00:15:32.200 I'm a I'm I'm human. I'm human as much as 278 00:15:32.240 --> 00:15:34.000 I would love to not be and make and and 279 00:15:34.120 --> 00:15:37.600 make dumb mistakes. You know, I've tried. I've tried, I 280 00:15:37.679 --> 00:15:41.960 do it a million times. One great thing that happened, 281 00:15:42.000 --> 00:15:48.720 one of the many things so wrote the book. The 282 00:15:48.879 --> 00:15:51.519 artwork comes out and it's I was going for like 283 00:15:51.519 --> 00:15:54.759 a black and white sin city kind of thing, and 284 00:15:54.759 --> 00:15:55.200 it it. 285 00:15:55.639 --> 00:15:57.440 Well, not to interrupt you, but just while you're on 286 00:15:57.480 --> 00:16:00.000 that subject, start to finish. 287 00:16:00.039 --> 00:16:02.200 What kind of timeline was you looking at with this book? 288 00:16:03.120 --> 00:16:08.440 Oh? Yeah, absolutely. So I start to finish, I would 289 00:16:08.440 --> 00:16:11.120 say probably a year and a half, like total, like 290 00:16:11.200 --> 00:16:16.679 absolute to total. So I didn't say anything to anybody. 291 00:16:17.279 --> 00:16:20.639 I got to my family. My my kids were I 292 00:16:20.960 --> 00:16:25.480 we're pretty close. So I kind of kept a secret 293 00:16:25.559 --> 00:16:28.080 from my kids and my wife and I didn't, you know, 294 00:16:28.159 --> 00:16:30.960 I just I was writing. I was googling how to 295 00:16:30.960 --> 00:16:35.120 write a script, going back at comics to kind of 296 00:16:35.120 --> 00:16:37.840 get an idea of rhythm and stuff like that, and 297 00:16:38.039 --> 00:16:41.240 uh and and just just write and writing. And eventually 298 00:16:41.279 --> 00:16:44.679 I got the confidence faith right, Eventually I got the 299 00:16:44.720 --> 00:16:47.440 confidence to bring it up to my wife and was like, hey, 300 00:16:47.919 --> 00:16:51.120 got something kind of crazy going on, kind of being 301 00:16:51.159 --> 00:16:53.360 led to do something. And you know, we got a 302 00:16:53.399 --> 00:16:57.240 great relationship about My wife's my best friend. She you know, 303 00:16:57.919 --> 00:17:00.600 that's something else too, is when guys working on you, 304 00:17:00.720 --> 00:17:03.679 he's working on the other person too. You know, it's 305 00:17:03.720 --> 00:17:06.119 a hand in hand. You know, you gotta be ready 306 00:17:06.759 --> 00:17:10.480 and uh and and she she was super down. It 307 00:17:10.559 --> 00:17:14.480 was it was incredible, you know what I mean to 308 00:17:14.599 --> 00:17:16.640 just be like, yeah, hey, you know, let's let's see 309 00:17:16.640 --> 00:17:23.240 what's going on. And uh. Anyway, so where am I at? 310 00:17:23.279 --> 00:17:26.680 So talk to her about it, and then things started 311 00:17:26.759 --> 00:17:29.799 kind of getting the rolling. I started reaching out for artists, 312 00:17:29.880 --> 00:17:33.279 kind of looking and and you know, I don't know anybody, 313 00:17:33.319 --> 00:17:35.519 so I'm just doing the social media thing. I'm on 314 00:17:35.559 --> 00:17:39.759 Instagram looking at artists. And I knew this whole thing 315 00:17:39.759 --> 00:17:42.440 would the whole thing would be lead, it would be feelings. 316 00:17:43.039 --> 00:17:45.319 So I would just I would look at artists and 317 00:17:45.400 --> 00:17:47.880 kind of you know, I if I felt it, or 318 00:17:47.920 --> 00:17:49.519 I would reach out and talk to people if I 319 00:17:49.519 --> 00:17:56.000 felt the conversation, reached out to a gentleman, and and 320 00:17:56.960 --> 00:17:59.000 that's a good story. That's a good part of the story. 321 00:17:59.079 --> 00:18:04.319 So kind of having some my beginnings of doubts, you 322 00:18:04.319 --> 00:18:06.319 know what I mean, Like, I got this thing going. 323 00:18:06.359 --> 00:18:09.160 I've talked to my wife, We've talked about the financials. 324 00:18:09.759 --> 00:18:13.440 Excuse me, I said that Funky I funded the whole 325 00:18:13.440 --> 00:18:16.640 thing too, So we started talking about the financials and 326 00:18:16.680 --> 00:18:21.279 all that. Reaching out to artists, talking to a couple 327 00:18:21.319 --> 00:18:24.319 of people, and I'm kind of hitting some hitting some walls. 328 00:18:24.359 --> 00:18:25.640 Not really, you know, it's. 329 00:18:25.480 --> 00:18:29.720 Not people thousands of dollars, Oh my. 330 00:18:29.200 --> 00:18:32.599 Gosh, it was. It was. Yeah, obviously money is a 331 00:18:32.599 --> 00:18:35.480 big thing. I didn't want somebody to be focused on 332 00:18:35.519 --> 00:18:37.400 the money. I didn't want them to be doing it 333 00:18:37.440 --> 00:18:39.200 for the money. I want them to be into it, 334 00:18:39.440 --> 00:18:44.200 you know, because because again, this is not a normal book. 335 00:18:44.279 --> 00:18:48.599 It's not real wordy, it's it's very visual on purpose. 336 00:18:49.039 --> 00:18:51.559 The colors mean something, everything means something. So it was 337 00:18:51.599 --> 00:18:53.160 more than just a book. I wanted somebody that was 338 00:18:53.200 --> 00:18:57.599 going to get into it. And uh, this was my 339 00:18:57.680 --> 00:19:03.000 first one of the first great signs gave me sent 340 00:19:03.119 --> 00:19:05.599 it the dude he was, you know, I didn't hear 341 00:19:05.680 --> 00:19:08.359 from a couple of days. And at this point I'm like, okay, 342 00:19:08.799 --> 00:19:12.279 what am I all right? You know, maybe I'm wrong here. 343 00:19:12.559 --> 00:19:15.519 You know, I started kind of doubting myself. Well, I'm 344 00:19:15.519 --> 00:19:18.319 sitting on the couch, it's Friday night, next to my wife. 345 00:19:18.480 --> 00:19:22.160 My phone's on the side of the couch, and through 346 00:19:22.200 --> 00:19:25.160 my doubts and all my everything that's going in my head, 347 00:19:25.759 --> 00:19:32.359 it went, check your email. What I'm learning is it's 348 00:19:32.400 --> 00:19:37.759 not always you know, smoking lights and thunder. Sometimes it's 349 00:19:37.839 --> 00:19:40.599 just your your words in your head. But it's coming 350 00:19:40.599 --> 00:19:45.200 from God. So check your email. And I just remember 351 00:19:45.319 --> 00:19:48.160 being like, okay, yeah, I really heard that, and I'm 352 00:19:48.240 --> 00:19:51.279 really gonna sit here and check my email. Okay. So 353 00:19:51.319 --> 00:19:54.400 I grabbed my phone. I looked. Not only was it 354 00:19:54.440 --> 00:19:57.279 an email from him saying he was down, he was 355 00:19:57.480 --> 00:20:00.240 very much into the script, very much liked it, and 356 00:20:00.440 --> 00:20:01.680 was really excited to do it. 357 00:20:04.880 --> 00:20:07.720 Hey, guys, is Steve from the dig Bible podcast. I 358 00:20:07.759 --> 00:20:10.160 really hope you guys are enjoying the content, but also 359 00:20:10.240 --> 00:20:13.640 the sound quality. It's drastically improved since I handed that 360 00:20:13.720 --> 00:20:16.920 duty over to the Handcrafted Audio. If you've enjoyed the 361 00:20:17.000 --> 00:20:20.279 quality of the show and have any audio or editing needs, 362 00:20:20.319 --> 00:20:24.000 reach out to Jason at the Handcrafted Audio at gmail 363 00:20:24.079 --> 00:20:27.880 dot com and as always, keep digging. 364 00:20:38.799 --> 00:20:40.799 So right off the bat, I'm like, okay, you know, 365 00:20:41.759 --> 00:20:46.279 I'm sorry. I doubted. I'm sorry, my bad. So anyways, 366 00:20:46.279 --> 00:20:49.279 we get to roll in in doing the art, getting 367 00:20:49.279 --> 00:20:52.160 all that going out, and then we get to the 368 00:20:52.160 --> 00:20:54.480 black and white part and this is this is super 369 00:20:54.519 --> 00:20:58.559 super huge for me. It just didn't have the right feel, 370 00:20:59.079 --> 00:21:03.480 didn't have the right It wasn't given you guys have 371 00:21:03.559 --> 00:21:04.720 seen it. It needed color. 372 00:21:06.200 --> 00:21:15.440 Uh so you just keep talking, I'll showcase it. 373 00:21:15.480 --> 00:21:16.720 I'll be the van of white here. 374 00:21:17.359 --> 00:21:21.680 Yeah yeah, so I yeah. And then you kind of 375 00:21:21.680 --> 00:21:23.160 got to go back to the drawing board. You got 376 00:21:23.200 --> 00:21:25.359 to get somebody else involved, and you got to talk 377 00:21:25.400 --> 00:21:27.519 to them. And I don't want to focus on money. Obviously, 378 00:21:27.559 --> 00:21:29.599 this was about the story. It was not about money. 379 00:21:29.759 --> 00:21:32.279 You know, if it costs me a million dollars whatever, 380 00:21:32.480 --> 00:21:35.000 Like I knew I had to get this out, So 381 00:21:36.359 --> 00:21:38.559 it just it didn't didn't feel like it was going 382 00:21:38.640 --> 00:21:42.839 the right directions. So again it goes through my head. 383 00:21:44.160 --> 00:21:52.720 You do it you colored? Like how am I? Okay, 384 00:21:53.200 --> 00:21:56.279 like I I've never colored. You know, that's not me. 385 00:21:57.000 --> 00:21:59.279 I'm you know, I'm an already guy, but that not 386 00:21:59.319 --> 00:22:01.960 like that. You know, I can cut and well you 387 00:22:02.000 --> 00:22:10.359 know machine, but that's not me. So yeah, I talked 388 00:22:10.400 --> 00:22:12.079 to my best friend, talked to my wife, and I 389 00:22:12.119 --> 00:22:14.319 was like, hey, I got this feeling that I should 390 00:22:15.240 --> 00:22:22.240 paint this thing. You know. She's like, okay, that's what 391 00:22:22.319 --> 00:22:27.039 you think you should do. I So I'm laying in 392 00:22:27.119 --> 00:22:30.720 bed that night and I'm like, what am I doing. 393 00:22:31.720 --> 00:22:35.119 I'm I'm I wrote a comic book. I'm gonna paint 394 00:22:35.160 --> 00:22:37.319 a comic. What am I doing? What am I doing? 395 00:22:37.799 --> 00:22:42.759 What am I doing? And I said, just make a 396 00:22:42.839 --> 00:22:45.279 sound or something, just let me know I'm doing the 397 00:22:45.359 --> 00:22:49.680 right thing and we'll be good. And uh, I live 398 00:22:49.680 --> 00:22:53.160 in a neighborhood and uh, you know, you can kind 399 00:22:53.160 --> 00:22:55.880 of hear like somebody's door shut and kind of kind 400 00:22:55.920 --> 00:22:58.640 of faintly hear that. So I heard that, and and 401 00:22:58.680 --> 00:23:00.759