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<v Speaker 1>And guests are cool, especially when they can let you

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<v Speaker 1>know what in the wide world of sports is going on.

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<v Speaker 1>And for this we get to add Chris Dorrin to

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<v Speaker 1>the stacks and welcome him to the chaos that is

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<v Speaker 1>the Morning Show.

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<v Speaker 2>Chris, thanks for j John, thanks so much for having me.

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<v Speaker 2>It's great to see you.

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<v Speaker 1>Great to be seen. What we like to do here

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<v Speaker 1>on the show is when Atlanta United, and since that's

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<v Speaker 1>where we're based, you know the fan base that is

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<v Speaker 1>attached to the Five Stripes when they have opposition, we

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<v Speaker 1>can dive into markets and we can sit there and go, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>let's try and grab somebody to give an education as

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<v Speaker 1>to what they might be facing tonight. When it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to it, lant United. And so we have consulted our

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<v Speaker 1>oracle and come across you to be our source for

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<v Speaker 1>oppo researchers. That's what you've gotten yourself in. When right

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<v Speaker 1>now the way things are Columbus fourth and the table

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<v Speaker 1>in the East eight seven and three thirty one points,

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<v Speaker 1>how would you characterize what you have seen so far

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<v Speaker 1>in the good, the bad, the good old GBU. Perhaps

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to expectations for crew here in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you could go all the way back to

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<v Speaker 2>January and February, but you know, we're halfway through the season, John,

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<v Speaker 2>and what's done is done. I think what we've seen

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<v Speaker 2>in the month of May was a bit of disappointment

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<v Speaker 2>in the sense that Columbus had some injuries, some call ups,

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<v Speaker 2>and really deflated a bit defensively. In particular, in that

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<v Speaker 2>last week of May. It was that congested week where

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<v Speaker 2>everyone pretty much played three games and we ended with

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<v Speaker 2>a match in Miami in Fort Lauderdale that resulted in

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<v Speaker 2>a five to one defeat at the hands of Miami.

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<v Speaker 2>We had given up eleven goals in that three game span,

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<v Speaker 2>and in the month of May, I think Columbus probably

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<v Speaker 2>left a couple of points on the table that they

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<v Speaker 2>should have kept. So that said, it's about coming out

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<v Speaker 2>of May and setting the tone for what will be

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<v Speaker 2>a hectic second half of the season with Leagues Cup

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<v Speaker 2>coming up in late July early August. I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>all about momentum, and Columbus has gotten off to a

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<v Speaker 2>great start with that first game in June two weeks

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<v Speaker 2>ago against Vancouver. I'll give you that Vancouver was not

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<v Speaker 2>at full strength. Neither was Columbus, but a two one

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<v Speaker 2>win at home is a great way to get started,

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<v Speaker 2>and then two tough tests this week with Atlanta tonight

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<v Speaker 2>and then a Sunday night game against Philadelphia. So keeping

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<v Speaker 2>the momentum going is really where I think the crew

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<v Speaker 2>are right now, and I think they've got themselves focused

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<v Speaker 2>on the task at hand, and that's Atlanta tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>Because of everything that has to be juggled during an

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<v Speaker 1>MLS season. Is Wilford Nazi still underappreciated as a head

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<v Speaker 1>coach in Major League Soccer.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think he's underappreciated it. I think he's one

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<v Speaker 2>of the most admired coaches in the league and he

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<v Speaker 2>has been for several years. Even the soccer purists watched

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<v Speaker 2>what he did in Montreal with very little addition to

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<v Speaker 2>the roster and only two years as a head coach,

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<v Speaker 2>and the kind of productivity he was able to get

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<v Speaker 2>out of that squad was something that sort of set

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<v Speaker 2>him up, certainly for the job in Columbus, but then

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<v Speaker 2>beyond that, for the accolades he enjoyed last year as

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<v Speaker 2>Coach of the Year and he was in the running

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<v Speaker 2>for Coach of the Year coming out of that Montreal

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<v Speaker 2>second season and winning MLS Cup in twenty twenty three.

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<v Speaker 2>But there were others who in the regular season had

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<v Speaker 2>achieved so much more in the way of in season trophies.

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<v Speaker 2>So Wilfried Nanci deserves every bit of the credit he gets.

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<v Speaker 2>I also think it puts him in a position where

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<v Speaker 2>he can, I won't say call out the league, but

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<v Speaker 2>he will. He will offer feedback on what makes this

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<v Speaker 2>league unique and positive and unique and negative. One of

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<v Speaker 2>those areas is the scheduling that goes on. He's not

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<v Speaker 2>happy that his team only has three games in the

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<v Speaker 2>month of June. He's not happy that he had to

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<v Speaker 2>play six games in the month of May. So there

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<v Speaker 2>are and I think coaches feel the same way. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think as many coaches have the street cred right

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<v Speaker 2>now to be able to stand up and say it

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<v Speaker 2>into the microphone. But wilfreed Nazi knows that he's got

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<v Speaker 2>that street cred. And then the last piece is the

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<v Speaker 2>schedule overall. Should this league be operating on a winter

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<v Speaker 2>schedule versus the summer schedule that it's really on, and

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<v Speaker 2>he is all four moving the schedule to in August

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<v Speaker 2>or September until May scheduling so that he and his

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<v Speaker 2>staff feel like they can get the most out of

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<v Speaker 2>trade windows and the building of teams throughout the course

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<v Speaker 2>of throughout the course of the FIFA calendar.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know that Wilfrid Nanzi is not alone in

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<v Speaker 1>his assessment about flipping the calendar, and that has been

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<v Speaker 1>something that has been discussed and is Major League Soccer

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<v Speaker 1>going to do it? That that's kind of one of

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<v Speaker 1>the specters that's hovering over our collective shoulders over the

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<v Speaker 1>next couple of years as to whether or not the

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<v Speaker 1>schedule will flip one way or the other when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to and all things being equal, tonight, how would

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<v Speaker 1>you anticipate the starting eleven looking for Columbus going up

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<v Speaker 1>against it Land United, knowing that you've got this matchup

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<v Speaker 1>on Sunday night? Soccer? Is it? You know? Is it

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<v Speaker 1>literally all hand, all hands to the hose and don't

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<v Speaker 1>worry about it and we'll get to Sunday later. What

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<v Speaker 1>are you in to see?

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's more the latter. We have never seen

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<v Speaker 2>a game in a congested week where Wilfried Nancy has

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<v Speaker 2>bailed on his preferred eleven or preferred you know, core

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<v Speaker 2>just for the sake of what's to come. This is

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<v Speaker 2>not a trap game for Columbus. They are anxious to

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<v Speaker 2>capitalize on the momentum they started with Vancouver two weeks ago.

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<v Speaker 2>They've got a couple of bodies out and a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of bodies back in, which is great. As you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Max Arsten is with the men's national team for the US,

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<v Speaker 2>and then Nico Hagen, our backup goalkeeper, is with Guatemala

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<v Speaker 2>and they've advanced by virtue of their result just the

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<v Speaker 2>other day. So we're dealing with those international absences, plus

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<v Speaker 2>some injuries, including first string goalkeeper Patrick Schulte who's coming

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<v Speaker 2>back from an oblique injury and he will be out.

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<v Speaker 2>So you'll see thirty nine year old goalkeeper Evan Bush

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<v Speaker 2>get his second consecutive start, his third on the season

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<v Speaker 2>tonight against Atlanta. In all likelihood, I don't know that

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<v Speaker 2>for a fact, but that's likely. Shan Zawatski is back

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<v Speaker 2>from injury. He should be with the Red, White and Blue,

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<v Speaker 2>but he had to decline the invitation because of injury.

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<v Speaker 2>But he's healthy and back centrally in the back line.

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<v Speaker 2>I think one of the things we saw versus Vancouver

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<v Speaker 2>that was delightfully surprising was the addition of ibrahem Alu

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<v Speaker 2>as a left wing back instead of a front runner

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<v Speaker 2>like he played in Houston. He has wing back pedigree

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<v Speaker 2>in the sense that he's played it before, and he

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<v Speaker 2>showed very nicely in the first minute of the game

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<v Speaker 2>against Vancouver, putting Columbus up one zero. So we're excited

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<v Speaker 2>about that. Because Max Arsten being away means that that

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<v Speaker 2>left wing backslot is open. It looks like Aleo could

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<v Speaker 2>have found his home in that position. Whether he's a

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<v Speaker 2>starter over Max or not doesn't make any difference. Tonight,

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<v Speaker 2>Max is not available and so we'll likely see Ibraheim

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<v Speaker 2>in that spot. You can rely on Darlington Nagbee. I

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<v Speaker 2>know United fans know and love Darlington when he's wearing

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<v Speaker 2>the five stripes and winning that MLS Cup a few

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<v Speaker 2>years ago for the city. Darlington will be in the center.

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<v Speaker 2>Who will be alongside him likely Dylan Jambo, and then

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<v Speaker 2>up top we've got Daniel Gozdog and Diego Rossi's. So

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<v Speaker 2>our three dp's are available and will likely start tonight

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<v Speaker 1>You mentioned goz Dog and I just can't help but laugh,

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<v Speaker 1>and I mean that in the most positive way humanly

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<v Speaker 1>possible about how Gozdog And a lot of folks in

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<v Speaker 1>the league were like, okay, that's highway robbery. You got

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<v Speaker 1>meaning Columbus. Columbus gets Gozdog, and it's like, okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>no embarrassment or riches here, We'll go ahead, Daniel Gazdog

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<v Speaker 1>from Philly, uh, from your tour and all of your

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<v Speaker 1>contacts in the league when the Gozdog deal happened. What

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<v Speaker 1>was conventional wisdom? What were folks telling you when Daniel

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<v Speaker 1>Gozdog showed up at the Columbus crew door.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, no one really had to say anything. He's

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<v Speaker 2>one of the most polished pros right out of the

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<v Speaker 2>gate I think I've ever known in terms of, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>meeting him from a journalism side of the of the relationship.

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<v Speaker 2>He gets up with the general manage during his introductory

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<v Speaker 2>press conference and says, my job is to come here

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<v Speaker 2>and score goals and help win trophies. And he's about

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<v Speaker 2>his playing about it like it's putting on socks in

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<v Speaker 2>the morning. He's about his playing about it as you

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<v Speaker 2>can possibly believe. Be What's ironic is that other than

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<v Speaker 2>a supporters shield, Philadelphia is not won much and so

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<v Speaker 2>he finds himself in a spot where not only can

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<v Speaker 2>he be utilized, and he was right away after that

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<v Speaker 2>press conference, he was put on a plane, flown to

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<v Speaker 2>Saint Louis and played forty five minutes. But he's also

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<v Speaker 2>in a system that he's going to have to reacquaint

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<v Speaker 2>himself with some things. And I think one of the

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<v Speaker 2>things we saw in the game against Vancouver was finally

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<v Speaker 2>Gozdog appeared to be somewhat at home in that his

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<v Speaker 2>relationship off the ball with Diego Rossi started to look

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<v Speaker 2>like it made a lot of sense. There were nine

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<v Speaker 2>games before that, John where Gozdog was trying to do

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<v Speaker 2>every thing and wash the dishes after dinner, and it

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<v Speaker 2>just was not coming together for him. He did not

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<v Speaker 2>contribute to a goal in those nine games, and finally

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<v Speaker 2>got one against Vancouver with the assist on the game

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<v Speaker 2>winner to Diego Rossi. Everyone in Crewe Country was relieved

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<v Speaker 2>to see that happen. Now, I want to give you

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<v Speaker 2>a little backdrop. We forget that these professional athletes are

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<v Speaker 2>human beings. Gozdok's family remained in Philadelphia after the April

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<v Speaker 2>trade so that their son could finish school. That makes

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<v Speaker 2>all sorts of sense. But Gozdok's going back to I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, a condo, an apartment, a hotel room by

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<v Speaker 2>himself after every training session for a family man. And

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you know much about Hungarians, but

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<v Speaker 2>families everything in that culture, and it should be in

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<v Speaker 2>every culture. But it is truly an important component to

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<v Speaker 2>your life. For a family man to go back to

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<v Speaker 2>empty apartment after training or after a game, or after

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<v Speaker 2>a road trip by himself, it's just not the same. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>the weekend that Vancouver played here in Columbus two weeks ago,

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<v Speaker 2>Daniel's family had made the permanent move to Columbus. You

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<v Speaker 2>want to talk about a weight being lifted off a

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<v Speaker 2>man's shoulders. He can go home to his wife and kids,

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<v Speaker 2>good game or bad game, good training session or bad

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<v Speaker 2>training session, and everything can feel normal to him. I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like the turn for Daniel Gosdog has occurred. The

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<v Speaker 2>family is in Columbus, and we're going to start to

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<v Speaker 2>see more of what we saw from him in Philadelphia

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<v Speaker 2>Here in Crew Country.

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<v Speaker 1>MLS fantasy players, please take Chris Dorn's advice. Okay, from

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<v Speaker 1>the way I think I'm a shoot man, look I'm

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<v Speaker 1>you're sitting and that's the thing. It's like you go

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<v Speaker 1>back to We've seen it countless times when you were

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<v Speaker 1>mentioning that. Literally the movie Trouble with the Curve stuck

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<v Speaker 1>in my head where at the end there's the evaluation

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<v Speaker 1>of the pick where the family comes in and he's

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<v Speaker 1>and there the family's cooking for the player. Hey, he's

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<v Speaker 1>that that makes that makes entirely too much sense to

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<v Speaker 1>in the morning to make sure that that's there in

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<v Speaker 1>a new environment, and that's that is absolutely key in

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<v Speaker 1>a situation like this. Chris dorn A, voice of the Crew,

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<v Speaker 1>hanging out with us FROPO Research here as we get

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<v Speaker 1>ready for at Land United and Columbus Crew tonight. When

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<v Speaker 1>you mentioned the starting eleven and how you feel that

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<v Speaker 1>that is going to be in a perfect world through

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<v Speaker 1>quick analysis for someone who has not seen crew and

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<v Speaker 1>might be just a casual dropper in and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>listening to you on the local option, listening to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>choice D all the above, you might it might be

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<v Speaker 1>Ibrahim Aliu. But give me somebody who is below those

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<v Speaker 1>A level guys where things are going well for Wilford Nanci,

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<v Speaker 1>focus on this individual or these individuals that are like

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<v Speaker 1>the B level, the B plus players, the guys that

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<v Speaker 1>go well. Who else outside of the main stars should

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<v Speaker 1>we focus on and be in the Chris Dorn spots.

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<v Speaker 2>Well within the potential starting eleven. And you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know how often you're able to get on the

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<v Speaker 2>about a starting eleven confirmed because we just don't. In fact,

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<v Speaker 2>there are a lot of crew players who are waking

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<v Speaker 2>up this morning who are getting the text message that

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<v Speaker 2>they're starting tonight. Because Wilfred Nancy is notorious for keeping

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<v Speaker 2>everybody on edge, and he does that for a reason.

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<v Speaker 2>He wants everyone to feel like they're going to start

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<v Speaker 2>on any given game night, and that keeps the mentality

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<v Speaker 2>where it needs to be. I'll give you two players

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<v Speaker 2>from a potential starting pardon.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I'm with you.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll give you two players from a potential starting eleven.

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<v Speaker 2>A Z Jackson, great, great on the ball, Titan's real

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<v Speaker 2>tidy in spaces where he's got limited what looks like

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<v Speaker 2>limited options, but he explodes out of space and under

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<v Speaker 2>pressure on the dribble so very well, keeps his head

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<v Speaker 2>up and does a really fine job of moving the

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<v Speaker 2>play forward. So I would say, I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>a Z starts or not, but I would say that

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<v Speaker 2>A Z would be a guy that you'd want to

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<v Speaker 2>keep your eye on. And then the two center backs

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<v Speaker 2>outside of Sean Zawatsky. Should Zawatsky start in the center,

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<v Speaker 2>and he likely would Yevan Shoberko Stephen Morera on either

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<v Speaker 2>side of him. One of the I would say part

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<v Speaker 2>of the evolution of this team now Wilfrid Naci in

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<v Speaker 2>his third year, is that the game model requires that

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<v Speaker 2>there's attack from the center backs, and so when those

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<v Speaker 2>two outside center backs step forward, they're going to unbalance

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<v Speaker 2>Atlanta or any opponent we're playing, and in so doing

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<v Speaker 2>create a through ball opportunity, or create a one v

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<v Speaker 2>one that wasn't anticipated, get through that and then play

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<v Speaker 2>a ball across the six. So I think any time

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<v Speaker 2>Yevan Schaburco or Stephen Morera get up in the attack,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm not talking about in a long string of possession.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about literally a ball forward, a one to

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<v Speaker 2>two or looking for a long ball over the top.

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<v Speaker 2>Those are situations where you can rest assured it's fully rehearsed,

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<v Speaker 2>rest assured that those guys know exactly what they're doing,

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<v Speaker 2>and that the pressure then becomes placed back on Atlanta

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<v Speaker 2>to adjust and defend in a numbers up situation.

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<v Speaker 1>And full disclosure when this has happened in the past,

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<v Speaker 1>that particular action that you're talking about, regardless of the opponent,

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<v Speaker 1>it literally puts defensive puts defenses on their heels, and

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<v Speaker 1>you're literally having to sit there and try and account

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<v Speaker 1>for more than you're used to accounting for in this

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a situation. And those center backs they're not

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<v Speaker 1>afraid to launch from twenty or twenty three. If the

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity is there, they jump into the play, they engage

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<v Speaker 1>in it, and they end up on the score sheet,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, more than you would anticipate from that particular

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<v Speaker 1>position because of literally that snap of the fingers that

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<v Speaker 1>happens jump into the play and get engaged. You're creating

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<v Speaker 1>numbers problems that traditionally that you're having a problem accounting

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<v Speaker 1>for these kinds of things, and it's one of those

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<v Speaker 1>things I think that makes Crew constantly a troublemaker when

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<v Speaker 1>you're trying to be trying to defend them. It's one

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<v Speaker 1>of those hallmark issues that you sit there and you're like, oh, ish,

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<v Speaker 1>here this comes again. It's something that's always there that

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, And it goes back to a kind of

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<v Speaker 2>a total soccer theory or model game model, if you will.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think a lot of people who watch

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<v Speaker 2>your podcast likely pay attention to Barcelona. You know, when

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<v Speaker 2>Barcelona was at in its prime, it didn't matter who

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<v Speaker 2>was rotating forward, there was always someone covering for them,

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<v Speaker 2>and there was always someone looking to play a ball forward.

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<v Speaker 2>So the total soccer concept is really what I think

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<v Speaker 2>Columbus is leaning into right now. And they've got the

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<v Speaker 2>personnel that's completely comfortable and trustworthy when it comes to

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<v Speaker 2>getting into the attacking third. If Atlanta drops back into

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<v Speaker 2>you know, kind of a five back igloo situation where

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<v Speaker 2>they're in a really low block, it's going to become

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<v Speaker 2>cumbersome for Columbus to break that down. But they've spent

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of time the last year and a half

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<v Speaker 2>really even when Kuco was here trying to break down

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<v Speaker 2>a low block. They've got some solutions that they can utilize.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, I think Atlanta wants to come out

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<v Speaker 2>and make a really good impression. There's no pressure on

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<v Speaker 2>Atlanta in this game tonight. You know things haven't been

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<v Speaker 2>going well. You've got the personnel, you're on the road,

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<v Speaker 2>so you're you're not under pressure to play in front

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<v Speaker 2>of thirty six thousand in front at Mercedes Benz come

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<v Speaker 2>out and put it all on the line. So I

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<v Speaker 2>think Atlanta's going to want to come out and play tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>The telltale sign will be can Columbus maintain that possession

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<v Speaker 2>and put them under so much pressure that they're not

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<v Speaker 2>able to withstand withstand themselves withstand Columbus's pressure defensively.

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<v Speaker 1>Current juice boxes have crew at minus one thirty seven.

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<v Speaker 1>Your ninety minute draws a plus three thirty two, and

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<v Speaker 1>Atlanta United is a plus three to five. If you would,

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<v Speaker 1>sur please cut the promo and let everybody know how

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<v Speaker 1>they can listen to you, not just tonight, not just

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<v Speaker 1>today when they come back and listen to the audio

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<v Speaker 1>version of this year program, but how then, how they

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<v Speaker 1>can envelop themselves in the entire Christorn experience twenty four secs.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I appreciate that, John, Thanks and thanks to everyone

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<v Speaker 2>for h for listening. We we We're available obviously on

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<v Speaker 2>iHeartRadio on Columbus Alternative one oh five seven. You can

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<v Speaker 2>find us tonight on Apple Television on the home radio option,

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<v Speaker 2>as you do when Atlanta is at home. And uh,

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<v Speaker 2>I hope you follow me on Twitter as well. You

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<v Speaker 2>can find me at Chris door in eighteen.

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<v Speaker 1>As we have done. Uh. You now have the garage

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<v Speaker 1>door opener. You've got You've got the keys that are

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<v Speaker 1>no longer under the mat, or at least you know

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<v Speaker 1>now where they are. So if it under any circumstance,

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<v Speaker 1>if on a Friday in the like the ten thirty

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<v Speaker 1>last half hour, in our hour of chaos, if you

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<v Speaker 1>want to come in vent your spleen, sit there and go.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got two minutes. I want to get this off

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<v Speaker 1>my chest. You now have the keys to the kingdom.

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<v Speaker 1>You sir, can come in and talk about anything from

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<v Speaker 1>IU to guitars to you know, to Mark Knopfler and

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<v Speaker 1>Columbus crew. It is all available to you, my friend.

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<v Speaker 1>I cannot thank you enough for hopping into the pile

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<v Speaker 1>and adding to our stacks when it comes to opposition research.

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<v Speaker 1>Can't thank you enough, have a fantastic call tonight, and

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<v Speaker 1>don't be a stranger.

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<v Speaker 2>John, Thanks so much, it was really a pleasure to

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<v Speaker 2>talk to you. And lots of luck to Atlanta United

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<v Speaker 2>through the rest of the season.